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I'm Bree. I'm Theora.
And I'm Caitlin. Come along with us while we dive
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Representation matters, and we're here to talk about it.
Welcome back everyone. The title of this episode of
Heart Stopper Season three, Season 2 Episode three, Kiss
through Caitlin down the Faith Hill rabbit hole of this kiss,
the song. And that's how we got here.
So I mean, YouTube's not going to see that, right?
Well, I'm going to cut this out. Welcome back everyone.
We are here to continue our Heart stopper journey with
season one episode 3 titled KISS.
Are you ready, Caitlin? No, it's still.
It's fine. It's been it's been a long
journey to get here, and I don't know why I thought this is
actually a good idea when we're like, fully in another show.
Right now. I'm about to talk about that
show. You know what?
Let's just do it. And come on, Iris, help us out
here. I mean, we could always just.
Do the exo Kitty brain dump and then come back to this.
Well, we're here now. I know I didn't do the cat.
That's all, I guess. Oh no, I'm good.
You gotta do it. Look at my hard stuff for
episode 3321 Go. Why was this so hard?
We're doing great. I can watch it over here.
And then it's what it's actually been rotating the same two
outfits for. But I can't see you.
Waiting for some kind of dual screen?
Yeah, I am. Like I'm my own.
Person. But buying new clothes just
makes me feel this is not this kiss.
No. And I don't feel like I'm my own
person. No, this is I have to research
what homosexuality is. No, But I don't know why.
That's a question though. I know if you're taking the Am I
gay? Quiz.
I feel that's why I think Google and am I Gay quiz.
No. They didn't exist when I was no
16 years old. I want he's two.
He's 2/3 gay. I want to know.
The math behind it. I love it, yeah.
What were the rest of the questions?
What percentage of homosexual are you listeners?
Is it like the Kinsey scale or alright, Does that have to do
with your astrological chart that day?
I don't know. Please be me.
Ohh, you wanted me to turn it down?
Because it's a party. Man ohh it's good.
Party. It's because it's still turned
down. So enjoy.
This hotel this Saturday, you're gonna be there.
Yeah, sounds good. You better.
Bring some cool people with you as well.
You can invite me. Only if you're cool enough,
apparently. Do you not think I'm cool?
Nick Nelson. Fine, I I guess I can invite
you, Imogen. That's right.
Where are the leaves? I don't know.
Yeah, there. Little hearts.
Those are hearts. I want the leaves.
This is the Kiss episode, Caitlin.
You get hearts. That leaves fine, you know.
It's hard, Jones. It's gonna be that she's.
Nick, it's gonna always pick up two girls.
Who's the other? Girl imaging, obviously, he
goes. Imaging, obviously is actually
the name of a new staffing book that came out not written by
this author of this of Hearts ever.
So that's funny. Actually you.
Don't have a thing? We just kissed a party one time.
Yeah, that was like. Three years ago, Nick's got.
A thing with images. Now anyway, no I don't.
OK, I know this isn't a reaction to the episode, but Iris worked
itself out. Oh good.
Yeah, I have a dog barking in the back.
I have a dog scratching at the door they really want to watch.
Hard Stopper? Hi.
I think in this show you should
hydrate every time they say hi to each other because they do
it. A lot.
So I should hydrate? Do you want to go to hashtag?
I don't know, it doesn't really sound like my sort.
Of thing I'm. Losing it, OK, we're not wanting
to. Be there.
Nope. Nope.
Let's drink for every time, Kenja.
I believe that is farts. I don't know what I thought that
I was going to say. That's so cute.
That is really cute. I need to focus look up.
Ohh yeah, the friend drama starting.
But like he really likes to do. I know, but like, I totally
understand their point of view too.
He's my favorite. He's like, I'm not getting
involved. I'm just gonna read my book.
But see, like now we're just kind of ruined.
His my balloons, that is. But you blew up.
No, I was going to ask. I was like, is it more than what
we had on the floor in Vancouver?
Fine, Johnny. Yeah.
Call me if you need me. OKI will.
Thanks, Darcy. Yeah, like I understand his
friends are coming from, but also like this never happens.
Like let him pursue this. Like literally the guy that he
has been crushing on. If it if they were together at
this point, I would see it's different.
But this is how you get together.
I love his upset as well as upset, this is.
Do they kiss him this episode? Never kissing him this episode.
I tell you who. But there's kissing and they
don't get shipped to Korean Cory School.
So random Like in the third episode.
You know what Heart Stopper and Exo Kidney should do a
crossover? Random.
They should. No, they should.
For real. Like it's like International
Exchange Day or whatever. For some reason, like they're
those two schools are exchanging students, making new pen pals
cultural exchange half the week they go to.
Where are they located? England?
Well, I wanted to. Know where, oh, I don't know
where. And then the other half, they go
to Korea. You know how you casually just
grab your friends arms when you're 62% homosexual?
That's what makes going through Oh my goodness, only 62% of his
hand touched it, right. You're right, it wasn't a full,
it was a 62% grab. That's what that was.
Still gay. I want to hear everything.
How are you doing, my love? All right.
And you're skull cake. Yeah, yeah, it's already good.
Good. Mom.
OK, OK. And you come.
I'll put the kettle on, OK? I'm so cute.
She loves you more than me. Miss you?
Yes, I really to having a mom like.
That man. Like, so sad.
I don't want to cry. What about arrival?
Oh my God, that's even sadder. Can't we just watch something
funny? I.
Thought we were having a film. Night, yeah.
A fun one. I just wanted it to be like old
times. Well, it's not old times
anymore. That bitch is reading his
profile picture. Is him reading a book.
He's like, just us. I love him.
You are a couple, right? Or they are a couple?
No. No.
But there's vibes. No, they're not together.
Right. What's my Both dogs are barking
and scratching, so I'm still watching.
So. This is your big second chance,
mate. Let's make it happen.
They kissed when they were 13. You should go through.
It right. I love how this kid is wearing a
six. He's the birthday boy.
He's wearing a button on his shirt. 16 like my first time at
Disney, but you have the button. I got it last year.
You remember Nick Nelson, right? Yeah.
Hi, hi. How are you?
All right, we're gonna watch some gayness, OK?
We are. Keep watching.
I am watching. Oh, it's gay panic.
Oh, it's not good for gay panic. Charlie's changing.
What do you mean? He's gone to one of Rich Boy
Harry's parties with. I.
Thought they were talking about a movie.
He's like Twilight. Charlie's Angels, I think.
That's a little bit dramatic, it.
Doesn't matter why he's there, he should be here with his
actual friends. Well, I think Nick is his
friend. Also, you're on his side.
Tell. There aren't any sides.
Let's just stop talking about this.
Fine. Anyway.
Sorry about. This I.
Don't know why. Like all of my friends want to
set us up. Not that you're not like, you
know, I don't really feel that way.
It's fine. I don't feel that way about you
either. Yeah.
All of this could have been avoided.
If OK, it's been like. Told everyone I was a lesbian.
Yeah, but I guess that's not something you'd really want to
lie about it. Won't be a lie.
Oh. You you actually are.
There's my girlfriend over there.
I'm 100% gay. I took the quiz.
I'm 100%. Lesbian, sexual Why are?
You telling me? Hydrant.
See, you've been talking and. Honestly, we feel, Oh, my watch
is on the ground. To keep it that quiet anyway,
you. Mean like come out?
Not necessarily. We don't want to make a big
announcement or anything, but maybe it's not hide so much.
That's a pretty That's cool. It's really cool.
I mean, I've only ever met one openly gay person before.
But I know a closeted one very carefully.
Yeah, yeah. We sit next to each other in
form. He's probably, yeah, probably is
my best friend right now. What are that?
Please. No.
They're so cute. I love them.
So now can I do say what I was going to say?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was thinking, sorry.
Thinking. I understand it was important to
shut off as. I was going.
To say, I think it's been 2 weeks since we watched this
together, yeah, so I forgot everybody's name same.
And I'm watching those and I forgot everything and I was
going to ask. Isn't that the lesbian?
So. Oh my God.
Sorry, I didn't want you to miss it.
That's homophobic, Harry. Come on mate.
I really don't like you. Happy birthday.
Yeah, Nick, growing a backbone, did it get darker in that room
or is that just? Sorry tonight.
Weird. I have no idea.
I was really distracted the last time cuz I was trying to figure
out what movie they were watching for.
The four of us. Yeah, but sometimes change is a
good thing. Yeah, that's true.
And Harry's party probably isn't even that bad.
Some of my friends said that they were going.
Friends from pigs? Yeah, you made some friends.
Yeah. You jealous?
No, no. I'm happy for.
You. I was really scared no one would
like me, so I didn't even try talking to people at first.
But then I realized I'm the shit I actually needed to put myself
out there, Rod. Just me, alone.
Sad ass bitch. You're a badass, independent
woman. So I think I'm going to be okay
there. That hooks.
That's a good change, right? Yeah.
It's a good change.
But they're not together. Nope.
OK, then. Wait.
What's going on in the hallway? I don't know.
It looks pretty gay in there, though.
Oh, that's the guy that screwed him over.
Do you remember him? Oh, the asshole.
Yes, the asshole. Fucking house.
So all that stuff was happening in the hallway, but I want to
know where it was hung in the hallway so I get it on that
road. Yeah.
I don't know. That's a good question.
Charlie. Charlie, can you hear me?
Look, I'm sorry about. Wow, did you bite my finger?
Do. Not.
Touch me. You tell him, Yeah, I'm still
trying to make sure it's the right dude.
Yeah, no, it's the right dude. This episode should be called
Backbone, cuz everybody's getting a backbone, Everybody's
getting a gay backbone. Kept buying your apple juice.
It's connected to the tone my bones on this episode of Gay
Anatomy. Gay's Anatomy.
It's like we love it. We always.
Find our friendship. No, I'm serious.
Like, no matter what changes, we always, always put our
friendship first. We'll still go bowling and watch
creepy documentaries, and we'll always stay up to watch the
Oscars. And I just like to kiss you in
between. Deep stuff like this.
Promise. So, like, his thing is he's
afraid of losing all of his friends.
So that's why. Like that these two are taking
so long to figure their shit out.
Every single show has to have the churches, the churches at
the band, right? I don't have no, I don't know.
I don't know bad names, but no the.
Obligatory, uh, rave type party. Yeah.
You know, the ones that always happen in high school?
Stay with me. Yeah.
And then the gay awakenings happen at Do you like me?
No. I really like you, Nick.
That's great. But I'm gay.
You don't have to reply right now.
I just. Want to decent it?
I like I'm OK Um, I'm. Gonna call my friend.
That's never a good side. Ohh that poor girl.
Something's about to happen. Why is not subtle at all.
I'm trying to get a focus. I am focused.
I love the way they shot this whole thing though, with the
lighting. It's brilliant.
No, I had a feeling it would be them.
So Galen, no one's going to school and it's convenient
confetti. But how cute is that though?
It's like their first kiss of public.
It's like, it's so cute that is cute, just like their joy, like
is normal. And then he sees that he's like,
yeah, I love the rainbow. Huh.
Yeah. No, I like how they lift this
whole thing. It's awesome.
So cute. So fucking cute.
Oh, my God. And that's Nick, right?
That is Nick. Nick.
OK. He's like, where's Charlie?
Yes. That's because he's he's going
through the what am I? Do I want to what is happiness
to me? And you saw that.
Fine. Friends are being douches.
You left. Sorry.
I felt like I was in the way. And your year and up and friends
are kind. Of intimidating, Yeah.
I don't know if I want to hang out with those guys anymore.
I'd rather hang out with you anyway.
So I just ran into Ben. Ben.
Yeah. I mean, I dealt with it.
That's the asshole. That's the asshole.
My gosh, I need a CHEAT SHEET here.
I pushed him into a ball and told him to.
Go. Away.
Yeah, good job, Charlie. It's just this time.
I'm so. Proud.
Ohh. Yes we're we're up to like 70%
Gay noisy. Yeah.
Should we go some like lights?
Right now. Ohh uhhuh.
That's a very dangerous question.
At a party. Come on.
Party now. At a party.
Still holding hands. Are you in a race?
They're boys. They're racing.
This is how boys flirt, I guess. I don't know.
It's cute. I'm into it.
What is other? This is a wealthy human being,
Caitlyn. Yeah, I know, right?
Like, is this just a house? Like one house.
I can't tell. This can't be a house.
Looks like a hotel. I mean, it could be this could
be like I used to be an Earl back in the day.
He's like, extremely rich. Yeah, it's his house.
Super Sweet 16. So he could cry when his parents
got him the wrong color Lambeki. Exactly.
So, OK, that's great. Serious.
Do you like Tara? What?
No, no, definitely not. Tara's a lesbian.
Thank you. Don't have a question in your at
the moment. I didn't say that.
I didn't say sorry, you're the one who seen this.
I don't remember this. It's the same thing what I did
when I said rude and then Kitty said rude at the airport.
We totally don't actually remember the lines, I think, no.
Gonna assume they're a she. I didn't.
I didn't say gender, did I? Are they not a girl?
Spit it out, Nick, it's you. Would you go out with somebody?
What's Nick up? According to the test, 62%
chance. It's a 62% chance of yes.
It's like the weather forecast. And then a hot front will come
in and percentage gets higher per inch.
Per inch. Are we going to get the
electricity again? Where's the leaves?
This isn't a leaf episode or a leaf moment kiss?
I don't know, Sparks.
Oh, there's your leaves. Well, they're flowers, Caitlin.
They're not leaves. They're not.
They're not the ones I want. They're from the love tree.
The flowers telling you the truth is out there.
Yeah. You wanna kiss?
No. Someone has to come in and
enter. I know this is going too well.
They're really no. What?
Wait. Oh my God, You know what
happened? It's such a pretty shy.
I can't believe that kissed in the third episode.
Me neither. Go take the quiz again.
I think it's pretty safe to say that you are, buddy.
Especially now that you want to hold his hand even more.
Is he gonna kiss again? What the hell?
Shit. I forgot about all this.
So used to, like, you know, getting interrupted.
And I was like, I was going to find them in this abandoned bar
room, obviously. Does interruptions only happen
with lesbians? Maybe.
If it's a Savic thing, Like, does it make a difference,
'cause like 2 guys can kiss like early on in a show?
It's true. Yeah.
I don't know. I don't know the rules.
I mean, then you get Motherland for sale of that went all the
way in the first episode. Yeah, that's true.
That's why it was an anomaly. Uh.
Oh, well. Baby steps.
We're getting there. It's nice when it lasted.
He's not at the I'm out yet Stage.
He is, though, right? Oh, Charlie's already out.
That's the problem. That's why he gets bullied.
And like, it's all just banter, isn't it?
I mean, the lads can see his banter, you can see his banter.
Why do you care so much? Just cause you're in a bad Is he
gonna be good? Guess I was just.
I don't know actually. Yeah, exactly.
So we're good. Yeah, yeah, just leave me alone.
I gotta go back to this guy. I gotta go find the loo.
He's not gonna be there. He's gonna go home.
He's got to walk on two, walk in on two other friends.
Get some. I know, right?
Charlie. Hey.
You OK?
Little gate hunts. Can't take this much.
Ah, for Charlie. OK, OK.
I got you. I got you.
Everything's going to be OK. So for all the parents are
really good. It's kind of refreshing,
actually. It really is.
We know this is not Disney because the parents are alive.
Yeah, there's two parents and there are there's two.
What? I know Disney loves axing
parents. Like the first three seconds of
the movie. Would you kiss me?
Wait a minute. That didn't happen, though,
right? No, he's just thinking back on
it. Like, oh, did I misread all of
that? Because Nick left and, like,
sprung away from him so that that's just, like, his thoughts.
Like, bad thoughts. He's gay.
Yeah. Huh.
I totally think that he. Oh, well, no.
Now now he knows he's gay. Yeah.
OK.
Yay. He went for long game mode.
Yes, you know what those are? Those are multi colored cherry
blossoms in my eyes. They're not.
They said they wrote KISS and they stuck to it.
We got all the gangs. This is upset like they really
did. This is what happened.
All right, Caitlin, So what did you take about episode 3?
But I'm just thinking that I still need to get it stopped
because I can still hear the music in my head.
It was. It was.
Quite gay, I know.
Isn't it so cute? It was really gay.
It's so gay and cute. I love it so much.
Yeah, this is one of my favorite episodes.
This one's very, very cute. I can't wait to talk about it.
Our discussion episode. It's so good.
This all the gay stuff happened. I wasn't expecting Charlie and
Nick to actually kiss because no homophobia.
And why would we expect that? Like, I expected like the
birthday boy to come in and like break that up and then like, see
them so close, right? And then be like, what is this?
And then like, Charlie's or Nick's in the position where he
has to be like, crap, do I perform for my friends?
Do I stick up for Charlie? And you know that it's always
the friends, correct? Right.
So then like it would have ended the same way with like Charlie
crying in the car, but like anyway, so I really like I I
love it. It's so, so cute because like
it's a, you know, Nick is going on his journey.
He's like questioning everything himself and like it, it takes
time. Not everybody is like
comfortable with and out immediately like it's a process.
So, like, he's he's actively doing stuff pretty quickly,
which is amazing that that actually, I mean from the moment
that he took the quiz, that is like a little too fast.
Well, to be fair, like they've been hanging out and being
friends for a while. So I think he's like, uh, like,
you know how you like you're like, am I?
And then you like, take the quiz obviously and you're like 62%.
And then you like look back in your life and you're like wow
with all like gay shit. I did.
You know what I mean? I was like, ohh, that was pretty
gay. That was pretty gay.
Ohh.
That's what that feeling was. And I think, what I think what
propelled him to really like, do it like Kiss Charlie, not only
were they a alone, but be like he just saw his two friends be
like or tar. I'd be like, fuck it, I'm gonna.
I'm just gonna do it. We're just gonna be out.
It doesn't matter. And then he just watched them
and looked like the pure joy on their faces and he's like shit.
I want that, you know? I think that's what I'm gonna be
happy. And you should.
You should. You should be happy.
Yeah. And he's happy with Charlie.
So like, I think that's really what he was like drunk on that
experience And then, like, went for it kind of thing versus
like, if that didn't happen, I don't think he would have maybe
acted on it so quickly, you know, because, you know, it was
like when you see a gay person in public and you're like, yes.
And, like, it's empowered, right?
It's the power of representation.
That's what just happened. So great message of this
episode. How would you rate this on the
We're going to do the Gay Jesus hydration scale.
How many glasses of wine would you drink for Gay Jesus?
Because he made the. Oh, yeah, Wine.
Yeah. Didn't we record you telling me
how you got this? I don't remember.
Actually. I don't think we did, but I wish
we did. Oh my gosh.
How much wine would you drink for Gay Jesus?
Well, I think I'm getting pretty drunk for Jesus.
Yeah, right. I gave it an 8.
Was this? 9 Was this your almost a 10
episode? No.
Well, this is this is the almost 10 episode.
There is an episode that is a 10 for me, but it's not this one.
Oh shit, yeah, what the hell. I know, But this one gets a nine
because just like it would have been a 10 if, like the other two
also figured they're shut out and kissed, but they're too much
in the friend zone right now. So anyway, yeah, I get the 9:00
because like all the good Mens, though, I know that's what I'm
saying. So I get the 9:00.
That was great. There's tons of gay stuff,
positive representation, and I really, really love the way they
shot that whole party. Honestly, I love the way they
played with the colors and the way they lit like back lit and
did all the lighting. That was awesome.
That was a really cool way to film that.
You're right, We get a lot of like, high school Rangers, but
that was just so beautifully lit and shot like cinematography
alone is great, huh? I like the rainbow.
Like again, like that was so beautiful.
I just love it. That's iconic scenery.
It was great. Well, then, love this episode.
All right, Well, I I wonder if it's going to continue.
It's really weird not knowing what's happening.
This is the first time, I don't know what's going on.
Yeah, Caitlyn, usually someone that is like the feeling.
So that means you have to keep watching, right, Caitlyn?
Yeah. I mean, I have no choice at this
point. But yeah.
All right, So we'll see you guys next time for season one,
episode 4. No.
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