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I'm Bree. I'm Fiora and I'm Caitlin come
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everyone. As you know, we like to
highlight the hard work and dedication of crew members that
work behind the scenes and sometimes in scenes of the media
we cover. Well, today we have the honor of
speaking with Cuoco, huson, stop.
The supervisor for Or Warrior none.
Thank you for hanging out with us today.
Thank you very much to bite me a pleasure.
All right. And now for the first question,
what is your job, entail, assistant supervisor?
So this time supervisor is the you know, the stance man.
So I'm taking care of all the soap.
So I have a stunt coordinator that take care of the set and
I'm prepared all the meetings and everything to be sure that
all is safe. So yeah, that's my job.
It's awesome. And how did you get started
working in stunts in the entertainment industry?
Well, I'm very old so maybe 27 years ago I started go sighs.
I came from the from climbing and Albanese and I start to do
jobs with ropes and In the beginning of the Spanish
industry with TV shows and movies.
It's really cool. That is awesome.
We've talked to a fight coordinator on a show before and
so I'm just curious. How does like stunts
supervisors. Don't coordinator differ from
like the fight coordination. Yeah, they fight gun, the racer.
The fight coordinator is the guy that prepare all the fights.
So he's like the stand coordinator.
Prepare the fights and the Stag coordinator.
Do they call raffy's training with the actors and prepare
everything? That's it.
So yeah it's like Stan supervisor.
It's not coordinator and fight coordinator.
Okay, okay that makes sense. Yeah, um, what is the biggest
misconception about stunts? Something that people think is
true but it isn't to do you think I think that horrible
establishes when you are not prepared to do it because
sometimes you need to do something that you are not
prepared. Because all the people think
that the stance is like crazy people doing crazy things, and
maybe years ago, is maybe it's like this, but now we are
preparing every single piece that we are doing on set. so
yeah, we need to prepare everything because The a small
clean. Always Safety First, you know,
you never know that a small the other day we did amazing hit
with a motorbike with a desktop is a system that you have a wire
connected to an anchor point. And Stan woman lands on a small
pieces between two paths. So it's very difficult to take
the control of everything. Yeah.
That's like a very precise.
So yeah, I see the planning would be Paramount.
Yeah, So we're big fans of warrior none.
So, thank you for that and making it so cool.
There were so many amazing stunts that went on in that
show. Do you have a favorite from
Warrior known? A favorite stud space people
because there are a lot of fights and there are a lot of
characters during the fight. So but for sure maybe I can say
that for me the Address fights are awesome.
Yes, and especially so good. Did you see me?
She killed me. Break my face against a wall.
Oh my gosh. That's so cool.
Now get out of girls Lilith I let Miller Camilla is amazing
with the weapons. Incredible is a amazing
character but Dora window that appears.
Yes It's a motherfucker. Yes you can say whatever you
like yeah it's amazing. Yeah yeah absolutely correct
that has had an amazing fighting this.
CSUN. So let's see what happens is on
dream. Yeah.
Yes, please. We desperately want to get
season 3? Well now I think we need to
clarify. Do you actually know something
or is that just you like saying like we're going to get a season
3 like you want? Hopefully.
Okay. Okay, we'll go with that.
They're fun zone. He's very happy with the with
the results. So I think it is Is that grew up
of the season 14 system to? Yeah, especially my team in the
second season. I had an amazing team working
together the abolition of the actors in the fight is
incredible. So yeah, yeah.
Yeah. You guys really stepped it up
season 2. It was freaking amazing.
We just couldn't say enough about the stunts this season.
Yeah, thank you. Yeah, like literally, If we want
we were we had the pleasure of being able to watch the season
two together and after the first episode ends with like that big
Lilith fight scene and the dungeon and we were just like
speechless after watch where it was just like I can't it's so
like yeah. You guys really stepped it up.
I yeah, me sweetly, yeah, flying.
Is absolutely amazing. Is one thing you don't have guts
so well, wow, nice. That's that's awesome.
Amazing So we've got to talk to a few people from Warrior nun
and we've noticed that some of the actors have martial arts
training already. Did this influence the stunts
that they were given? So good.
Sorry. So a lot of the actors have like
some training in fighting already.
Did that affect any of the stunts that they were given, did
you maybe give them harder things?
Yeah because they are. Yeah if you have a training
martial arts but guy from check the fight coordinator and lick
one the stunt coordinator did an amazing job training with Within
my didn't? They did several hours of
training. They did training with this ab12
reality with goggles with my formula.
Wow, that's so cool. It is really cool.
Are you able to talk to you about that?
Oh, it's a secret. Is it to see what?
Maybe they'll be back. Hi, hey.
She's right. That's so cool though.
Oh yeah, I think we should all do that at the end.
Like maybe we made it. Very, very important training
with the actors to feel comfortable.
So did you see Ava flying with the wires?
So this is training training and trying to do all the actor
confidence on the fight. So yeah, my team did an amazing
job so yes, they paid off it. Worked, it worked very seamless
like well yeah, did any of that? Actors kind of take to it more
than then or have like a natural way with the stunts in the
fighting. Yes, because all the actors has
like a different skills. Now, you know, maybe how do you
say forgot? How many characters and too many
so this year? So yeah I totally understand.
No Dana see ya. It is an amazing fighting the
episode 1 at the end with the you know this scene we're
shooting this is in with the system.
These are Robo. It's like a road doing all the
seeds. Did you see it making a secret?
Yeah. So it's a Credible.
No, totally agree. Working care goes into these
scenes and it really shows that everybody really cared about
what they were doing. Yeah.
So thank you for that because it's No, thank you for them
because they lift the skin on the every fights you know
because for was amazing. Yeah absolutely.
Okay. So how much how much, how much
of the stunts did the actors do versus stunt doubles?
I don't. Wow, they did a lockers, but
there is one thing that all the people think that For sure, all
the actors can do a lot of things.
Like the stands, but the problem is that the small things could
be stopped production, maybe I did, since one policeman do in a
rollover and the gun go out of the holder of hit on the nose.
So you need to stop the production and stop and wait to,
you know. So he's not about that.
The actors can do the stances. We are the, do you say that?
Firewall between the actor and the accident.
So we need to be there if I have a problem, I had a lot for me.
Well I can put another and another statement but for the
ACT on there is only one so sometimes it's not that.
The actors can not do it, if you must not do it.
Because if something happened, we need to stop a big production
and it's a lot of money. As far in this season, they did
a lot, especially all the main characters.
They did a lot of fights. Why did they decide to like give
it to the actors more? Because like, I know a lot of
Productions do use the stunt doubles as much as possible to
reduce the risk of accidents and injuries.
But I think this show has been the one that we've seen the most
actually have the actors do it. Yeah.
This is a difficult balance
because it's on our department to decide if the actress of the
actor is doing the fight or for sure on the fights, you know,
the floor. But as soon as they are flying
or hitting a wall or Landing haircut hits, we pulled
understandable for security reasons.
Make sense. But yeah this is because for me
the most important thing in Stannis is the realistic.
You know, if you are fighting and you do like this, you know,
that is the double So, as much as we can, we put the actors.
On the fights. And it's where I'm in the, you
know, the combo with the look in the fight like this.
Like, I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's
awesome. But I will make a lot of care of
this. Oh, yeah, yeah, no doubt.
So we recently talked to Christina and she was talking
about her fight scenes as Beatrice and she really loved
the one in the big church scene with that big fight.
And so, and that fight seems very like huge and like there's
a lot of challenges to it. Like what was it like to put
together? Such a like a big scene like
that with all those people? Yeah.
They see what they do with Christina.
Is that c.k.? I'm from the dance.
So she has an amazing control of the body and at the end it's
like it's like a big dance. You have to act as fighting
here. You have another Factor 5 is in
the other side. You have the stands back room,
fight bit, you have the crowd running at the end so at the end
is like like a dance, you need to mix together and I try to
explain all of this with the camera because this is very,
very difficult sometimes because you need to have the continuity
of the fight. You need to know who is running
at the end who is fighting. So yeah, but it's very easy to
work with Avon with Alba and we Christina not a whole thing.
It just that's a very excellent way of describing.
It was a dance. Absolutely.
Yes. Totally I love it.
So for a big scene like that, how long does it take to plan?
It like fully like. So you like you have an idea.
How long does it take to figure out what everybody's doing?
Yeah, you said around couple of weeks because the beginning, do
you need to have a conversation with the serenity?
After you have the conversation with the showrunner, you know,
that you have a director for each block.
In this season, we have four directors, one of them, it was
Simon Barry. There's a runner.
And the director for the last block and then when you have the
idea about the five, for example in the church or at the end with
the zealots, you need to talk with the director of this blog,
So we prepare with the doubles understands we sold the fight
for Simon and and the director, and then we start to put the
actors in the fight and the doubles, so maybe, yeah, it's
couple of weeks, couple of weeks, a lot of work working
together, but if you are shooting the block one, and you
are rehearsing the block to, maybe you are doing this big
fights in one month, three weeks.
Because we can, yeah, we cannot work all the days with them
because his work training fighting hidden for.
So we put paths in the forearms in the news.
It's hard work because it's not. They, the actor is not only
doing the fight is preparing. The oh, no, they acting since
oh, yeah, if you had an unlimited budget, is there a
dream stuff that you would like to pull off?
Wow, limited budget. Sounds really good.
And the for what? Say gate because I Collapse when
I listen a limited batch. Internet's being a little weird
right now. So say again, if I had an
unlimited budget, I'm going to sit down because it sounds
really good. There you go.
Yeah, what kind of fighter did you put together if you hadn't
limited budget? Is there a stunt that you would
like to do? For me, I don't know.
I have a lot of ideas for Season 3, but maybe big car chase
scene. Yeah, because if it's Jasmine
were afraid. Lots of screaming during, and if
for sure, with with consider it. What is the sister that drive
horrible in the system to. Yes.
Yes, yes. Yes sir.
Yes. Ma'am.
Please make that happen. I so fun.
I feel like Yasmin drive it. Yes!
Me and Camilla doing it for coming together and just been
like both screaming with big guys.
Like yes. Yeah.
Oh my God, Beatrice in the back just just going.
Like what right? I feel like just like the guys,
it's not that big of a deal every week.
Yeah, yes. Yes.
Absolutely. How could you not be to watch
Mother Superior and eat? I don't even it's just it's too
much of a stake. It's very, very funny scene.
Obvious. Yeah, it was hilarious.
How many was yeah? So, maybe this or maybe if for,
sorry, I will. Half a big budget.
I seen in a plane exploding non-flying trying to grab the
parachutes in the air. Mid air fights, incredible.
I love this float in the air and stuff.
Yeah, he could play with that. We could have it.
Yes, I want you gone through the air screaming.
One of those like squirrel suits, it does sound amazing.
I want it. All right.
All right, speaking of I'm stunts, so question.
So you mentioned earlier that, like, safety is like, really key
with doing stunts. How do you make sure actors and
everyone doing stunts. Stay safe while they're
performing them. The most important thing is the
training because training is the if you know that you are going
to do in a fight, see you repeat the choreography 20 times.
It's very difficult to, to do mistakes.
And then we have, like, drinks system of security.
The fight coordinator is working with the actors on set.
We have the stunt coordinator, taking care of the environment.
Understand supervisor is Taking care of a lot of things about
the apartment, you know, the props normally, check all the
props that are safe to be sure that we don't have sharpen
things on their own, they probes.
Maybe the a department to be sure that the floor because we
prepared a special floor with is like a neoprene and we the
flourish like the real floor, but this New Brim.
So this is very Very, very important to have this kind of
security rings to be sure that this is not happening.
Because you have the perform a test and perform at the stand
guard. Over our choreographers working
with the actors. If I got the needle, thinking a
little start supervisor this time, super assistant,
coordinator stands for visor, it's very difficult to have
problems, but as I told you small thin, sometimes it's very
difficult to take care of all the variables of the equation.
Yeah. Yeah.
Practice Prime. This is why I'm in the combo.
Like Must be so nerve-wracking. You like we did everything
possible. It's all up to you.
Yeah, but no, no you see son we wouldn't have probably.
So yeah we are very lucky happy. That's awesome.
Hopefully you never have problems sometimes.
No, but yeah, yeah, you never know.
But this is why we are trying to put in the special moments that
doubles because we are here for this something happened We got
to take the double but for sure, we can chain the actor.
Yeah, absolutely. But where you're not hasn't been
the only project you worked on. Obviously, you've done a lot.
What has been your favorite project to work on and why?
I think I lost about what her name is.
One of my favorite favorite one. because we start to prepare, I
was shooting Rambo in Bulgaria and I had a meeting with Simon
which is a runner and it was like a How do you say when
cupido throw their old? Like it was like, yeah.
It was maybe five years ago and especially because in in Warrior
nannies is the group. They drew is like a family.
You know, sometimes when you are working in a big project, there
are a lot of pressure. There are a lot of tensions but
in Vernon is like, if there is no person is family, I love
working on. Don't put another flood, so
amazing. Yeah, I love that.
Yeah, so, okay, so What is your has been your favorite?
Stunt that you've done as a professional performer.
You have one. I know you've probably done.
So many. Is it?
When Christina, bang your head against the wall?
Yeah. I mean, obviously, that would be
in the top ten for this season of, for engineers, your whole
career. I did a lot of things that you
never think that you are allowed to maybe suit in La La Brea.
It's like a big monument in the south of Spain that is not
allowed to shoot and you are doing a sword fight, or maybe
jumping in Malta in Clips, in Malta or working in genus,
Lansing Island. So, for me, I'm a lucky boy.
I did a lot of things I fight with.
They repeat in Warrior in World War, see it?
I don't know, I did a lot of things so it's very difficult to
choose one. Totally understand.
Yeah. Yeah.
For sure. It's like on a variety of
things. Yeah, I miss him amazing because
your office is different every day you are working in a see we
both you are working with motorbikes in a highway you are
working with swords in Europe. So yeah so awesome.
It's an amazing free. I never Were you ever given?
Like did a director ever say, okay, we want to do this and
you're like, how the heck are we gonna do that?
Did you ever have like one of those scenes that you had to
figure out? Yeah, because sometimes in the
director asked you for very very weird things.
I don't know. Maybe, I don't know to connect a
guy in a wheelchair, to pick up to do Johnson.
So sometimes it's like really Yeah.
Yeah.
I can see that you like are you sure this?
Yes. Yeah.
Yes. He's like but for me it's
amazing. Because the because we booked a
real guy of a wheelchair and he was like, yes, do it again but
you hit the floor like so. Yeah. really really, really
different things that I don't know, maybe the remember one
amazing stunts, you know, this kind of in Spanish.
You say hit guards is like, in the Furious.
You have like a small cars and you.
Yeah. Are all the time.
Hating mmm, for cars? Yes.
Bumper cars. So they're detective.
Tommy. Can you drive the bumper car
with your legs and say what? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Is it on there? With one leg of the steering
wheel and you try to drive and hit one guy and fly and hit the
wall and say, okay let's do it. And I did it and wow, nice.
So yeah hilarious, I love that. Crazy things.
Interesting things. I don't think the word that I
gave you was the correct one, but what dammit Caitlin.
I don't know if the word I gave you was the right word that I
think you're good Caitlin. Okay, you're fine.
So you have experience as a stunt performer and then as a
like coordinator do you prefer to be in front of the camera
doing? Stunts or like behind
supervising. It's interesting.
Because, the years ago, I was thinking that is very easy
because you grab your paths in your back, you speak with the
stunt coordinator, the stunt coordinator, told you, you need
to fall on this healed, you need to jump off this car but we'll,
when you are coordinator, work coordinating is you have a big
responsibility especially when you are a stand supervisor
because you need to take Out of your team and sometimes you
don't have the control of the situation.
You need to know your team. You need to know if you are
booking. The proper person to do car kit
you know a car key to run. Our one God is coming and you
need to jump in the perfect moment to hit the windscreen
break the windscreen flying on the roof and land on the floor.
So In This Moment sometimes his life.
Oh my God, I prefer And to be on the in front of the car.
Because yeah, yeah, I love The Stance.
I did a lot. and it's like, it's like I'm sorry.
Go ahead and do your job. All the people is Clapping.
Your Hands is like yeah, I did it.
And all the, how do you say the hormones that you free on this
kind of action series? It's like a drug sometimes so
you need to take care of this because sometimes yeah if you
are added to this kind of hormones, sometimes it's
dangerous because you need to do maybe a bit more baby.
Yeah, I can see how that would be a problem.
Yeah. But for your question.
Yeah I'm sometimes I prefer to do stunts because you don't have
this responsibilities but Curry creating a since and preparing a
big. So like we're gonna do is it's
amazing. Because you are creating this
Essence with your stunt coordinator and your fight
choreographer. And at the end, you see on the,
on the screen is like, oh yeah. Gratifying to stick it to wash
them in the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's awesome. Well, there's no denying that
your job is really cool and dangerous, but if there's
anybody who's listening that wants to get started and stuns,
what advice would you give them to get started?
I remember that old books that I read long time ago, and I think
the most important thing is say, thank you.
And please, And then stay all the time on said, no.
Because sometimes the I knew a lot of people on the way.
Now, I understand sometimes with the with the people is like a
mist and man, but you need to feel that if you want to be a
stuntman. So you need to stay on set all
the time. Look in the screen.
What are you doing working with all the apartments?
Because for me it's very important because at the end you
need to work with costume with makeup, special effects, special
effects. Props.
So yeah, I will say that be on set all the time and work as a
team because at the end, Movie TV show is a teamwork so yeah.
And I'm going to say this, sometimes the stuntmen are very
I missed. And then I know everything
because I jump from buildings on fire.
But again, do I want to have more of I hate.
This is like, yes. But yeah, they work.
I love that. That's great.
Advice teamwork. Is he on set?
Well, thank you. Thank you for sure.
Always my mother. Teach me this.
Yeah, that's the dorable I love it.
Okay. So that's the last of our
questions. But do you have any final words
for our listeners? Before we wrap everything up?
Funny words, final words. Anything you want to say to the
people listening? Do you did you see, did you see
many black when they grabbed this kind of So, look alike.
I'm forget everything and then go listen again.
No no no, I don't know. I'm a I'm a lucky boy.
I'm really, really happy to work in this business so I never
think that I will do this kind of things when I start breaking
my bones everywhere, doing crazy things without Out, you know,
because long time ago, imagine, 20 years ago, 30 years ago,
when, when the stands start to do stunts jumping from horses
doing car kids, they didn't have Parts, they put towels around
the arms on the knees and so I start in in the perfect moment.
So yeah, if you are trying to be a standing, be careful.
Call me perfect. Yes.
All right. Well, we really want to thank
you for taking the time to talk to us today and we appreciate
all the the knowledge that you've given us and we love
getting to know you better. It was really fun.
So to everyone at home listening, make sure you stream
Warrior. None on Netflix because we need
season 3 and go. Check out when Christina bashes
his head. Yes.
And go look at that scene. Mmmmm, yes, we'll see you next
time. Thank you.
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