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Theora? Today we are concluding Pluto
the series in our scene by scene breakdown format.
Today will be the final breakdown of episode 12.
Oh my gosh, we made it, everyone.
It has been a journey. I can't believe we're on the
last episode. What are we gonna do?
We're gonna take a break from scene by scene breakdowns for a
bit because our schedules are about to get crazy.
And then the next scene by scene breakdown we're going to pick
things up with is Clarabelle the series because there's so much
to dive into. It's going to be super fun.
So everyone's homework is to go watch Clarabelle if you haven't
after this airs. Yes, get ready for those epic
breakdowns. Yes, get ready for that.
And then in the meantime, we're going to be doing just like a
few episodes of Girl Love series that have come out.
We're going to start up book clubs again and just have a
little bit of fun before we get into our next scene by scene
breakdown. Yes.
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Only you, only you. All right, and with that, I
think let's get into our corrections and clownery
segment. Yeah, All right, so we have two
and they're both from Patreon. And this is for our episode 11
Part 4 discussion. So White CAT112 says Oh, no,
another vocab challenge. Serendipitously.
Yeah, it was. It was serendipitously.
That makes sense. Yes.
Good try my cat. Appreciate you.
Good trying. I really do appreciate you
trying. It makes me not feel like I'm
talking into a void. PIM was also sulking at by the
and by the river. Saw the bike and took it back.
So that's how the bike got back. Makes sense.
I'm gonna say Casola has DID
which is dissociative identity disorder and that's why he
sometimes seemed very wise and sometimes does dumb stuff.
Same with Paul. Yeah.
So they could have gone to therapy together, met in
therapy, fell in love in therapy, and we could have had
that story going on. But no, we were robbed.
So robbed. All right, so white cat has a
question for us. Well, you got White Cat and they
asked who was your favorite characters before the analysis
started and who is it now? Like before we started doing the
breakdown episodes. Yes, my favorite character
before going it is probably I and my favorite character after
is OOM. I think OOM is it just
interesting? I feel like eyes all around my
favorite character. Oh my God.
Yeah. I will say Jan bumped up because
of all the fan fiction. Yeah.
And her big gay energy.
Yeah. Jan's pretty awesome.
I think before it would be AI and Pang just 'cause I like
their dynamic too. Like that makes sense.
Yeah. You love chaotic friendships.
I do. They're they're just so fun.
I don't know how much it's May has gotten lower, May got worse.
But May was never my favorite character to begin with.
Like I always was drawn more to Ayoon than May when it came to
just like sussing out what her motivations always were cause
May is consistent but I is like all over the place.
So I find her more interesting as a character.
I think before it May might have been before UMM and like now
Umm's before May. I don't know my ranking
completely. Mostly because it's been so.
Long and I like I don't even know my thoughts before our
breakdown. It was many years ago it was.
But White Cat has answers of their own, so they think for
them. It was before the breakdown.
Number one, I #2 May. Number three, Officer Hottie.
Oh, my God, Officer Hottie. I'm so sorry I Plutoed you.
I forgot about you getting Pluto.
Or she's interesting, but she's never like my top Yeah
characters 'cause they don't give us anything.
But I feel like with our fan fiction, she's gotten higher
afterwards. Sure.
And then #4 is Jan? After the analysis, it's more #1
Jan. Fuck, yeah.
Yeah, that's valid #2 I also fair. #3 umm.
Hell yeah, Hell yeah #4 May, yeah, that's fair.
May is also super interesting. Like when you really have to get
into her. I mean, if I'm picking top spot,
though, I know, yeah. All right, so our.
Next comment is from Kasi M right and they said it took me
almost a week to get through this podcast alone.
Valid like of episode 11? Because yeah, we were gonna, I
think it was just Part 4. Hmm.
OK. But maybe, I don't know.
Only you can tell us, Cassie. Only Cassie.
They continue. Thanks for dissecting episode 11
in epic detail. I still don't like episode 11
and Oom's ultimatum. I don't like it either, and it's
OK. Nobody likes it.
Nobody likes the ultimatum, even, um, doesn't actually like.
But I understand her now a little better and realized that
she was not acting rationally. No, not at all.
She was not okay, not no okay that I would choose her sister.
I never doubted, but I previously indeed likened UMS
actions to Disney type villainy, whereas you opened my eyes to
her depression which I only peripherally acknowledged but
not considered to be the main motivation behind the ultimatum.
That was the perception of all the characters as well Cassie,
so you're not alone. Now I would just.
I just would like for UMM to rescind this ultimatum once she
feels better as she perfectly knows what I feels for May.
As for Caitlin's word, serendipitous.
Great job Cassie, it certainly fits the episode, especially
this part if you use the meaning relying on chance purely with no
positive connotation, as the latter part on episode 11
happened in large part by chance and not by design.
How? This is in.
Question to how eyes bike returned home?
How eyes bike returned home? I don't know.
No one knows. Do we see that once again in the
rest of the series? That's a good point.
Or her bike just returns home. No.
Do we see the bike at all? Well, no, hold on me.
Yeah. Well, in the flashback, yeah.
When they're going through umms, the reason, umm, got therapy was
'cause Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she did get the bike. Comes back after the lake, but
like, in like sequential order when they're not doing
flashbacks. No, we don't see it again, but
in a flashback that happened after the late the river
incident, yes. So yes, she did get she does get
the bike somehow mysteriously. And tan probably has a location
Finder app for her phone. Absolutely.
Otherwise he wouldn't have never made it in time.
It's true. I mean like he's like I'm so
sick of your shit. So he started tracking her a
long time ago. He had to again, like he has to
go to her aid so much. That's what I mean.
He just has like, well, he's like her life alert.
All right. And that's that's the end of our
corrections of Connery. Thank you so much White Cat and
Cassie for commenting and submitting.
Keep we this is our last Pluto. Episode.
So we won't be reading them out loud, but we'll respond to you.
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Yes. All right.
And with that, yeah, thank you for coming along on the journey.
This is our final episode for Pluto, so let's get through this
together because this is the happy part, all right?
And so episode. So the second-half of the
episode essentially where we left off, we start up with some
heterosexual propaganda because we have UMM in the auditorium of
Maze Rehab Center just like pondering life and stuff when
Kasol saunters in all casual like and shit and sits down
beside her. And this is like the first time
these two have ever interacted solo.
So like the scene kind of comes out of nowhere.
However, off screen in the interim of the ultimatum to now,
they've allegedly been interacting through the rehab
center because Casol works for May at the rehab center.
UMM found out about the rehab center somehow through Casol,
and so they've been mingling over the past year.
So that's how we get this scene that if we hadn't known, that
seems to come out of nowhere. Yes, it it.
Seems to come out of nowhere so much that remember I don't
notice clothing. I thought this was I for a
second until like we got like into the seat.
I'm like, oh, wait, wait a minute.
No, that's not I yes, my bad. All right, so this is OM, and
Kasol sits down and tells UMM that she did a good deed when
she was talking to May. And Umm's like, what the hell,
You saw that shit? And he's like, casually like,
yeah, yeah. Which means that Kasol was
spying on UMM and May without either of their knowledge.
Which means canonically, Kasol is a better spy than I.
He's the best spy, apparently. I think UMM is the Best Buy, but
he's better than I, which tells you how bad of a spy I was.
And that was her plot for several episodes.
I I said Barb really low, though.
I was really bad at this, which just.
Which makes the show all the more ridiculous when you're
like, I can't believe I was fooled by the fact that made
quote didn't know any of those because I was so bad at it.
Yeah, well, I mean, like, even in our reaction videos, we were
like, there's no way she doesn't know.
I forgot we even said that. But I'm just saying, like,
you're led to believe that May doesn't know these things, and
then in hindsight, you're like, wow, there's literally no way
because I was so bad at this. Really, really bad.
She's so bad. OK so then when Casola is
sitting next to Oom after he tells her she did a good job
with apologizing to me and setting things straight, pun
intended here. Casol then mentions that he's
disappointed that he came all the way to this book signing and
he did not get I's autograph. Like poor puppy dog Casol, he
came here to support his friend and like give him props for
that. Like he already had the book
which is how he gave it to May. And then he, like I's family
members came here to physically support her.
But like, again, May must have shown up, derailed the whole
book signing. And then Por Casol was probably
in line for like an hour before the publicist is like, yeah, she
gone. And he's like, oh man, like I
came here. I just like Por Casol.
I think this proves that everyone in line behind May did
not get AI Agree. I think everybody got fucked.
I was at the book signing like she didn't.
She was completely blinded by love and was just like, OK,
let's go walk into the sunset together.
I forgot about her own book signing.
Yes, which I mean, it's her day and she could what she wants,
but like Casol was like, man, she left so quickly, meaning
everybody got screwed. Just they're just pointing that
out. OK.
And then they get into this really deep kind of conversation
because again, this is because puppy dog Casol and wise Casol
where umm reflects and says, today I learned that letting go
can mean loving someone basically, which means that she
read I's novel and like actually learned the point of the novel.
So good for you. Umm.
Umm has reading comprehension skills.
She's the book smart one, the book smart one.
And then she took that lesson and put it into action, which
goes to show you that like you can learn like fiction can teach
you shit. Like I hope you've learned
something on this journey of Pluto with us.
Depression is real and don't underestimate it.
There are many lessons. Just go re listen if you want
any of them OK. And then so while UMM is
explaining all of this cuz soul is looking at UMM with hard eyes
and I love that UMM clocks that shit and she's like oh hell no,
not this again. I'm swearing off men, women love
all of it. And like good for you UMM cuz
you just complete. She just completed a very long,
very bitter, very difficult healing journey.
You deserve to take time to love you and just have peace.
That way when you meet Officer Hottie later, you'll be ready
for it. Yes yes, because this right here
is some propaganda. OK, so the so I think one reason
she has every right to be like absolutely not romance.
It's not for me right now because her healing journey, but
the other reason is she's like, I'm really tired of sharing
romantic partners with I, which is fair.
She's like enough. I want somebody who has never
met. I own.
It's just for me. I can't have this weird.
Oh, you're in love with my identical twin, my accent
situation. That's what Boom is expressing.
We're going to go back to her not introducing her significant
other to her family for like years again.
Yes. But also I love that she's
lamenting. I love and hate the fact that
she's lamenting on this. And then the writers are like
yeah, about that room with the rest of this conversation.
So. OK, so then GMMTV in console
surprised us all when he reveals that.
OK, well you know, I definitely fell into the witch twin twin.
Am I into misunderstanding trope?
Because apparently he was into whom and tried to court her but
then started courting I instead. And that's how we ended up
dating I So OK, to me, I think very this isn't purely GMMTV
thing. This was absolutely not in the
novel because it was actually a terrible person in the novel and
basically was a point of drama between May and I.
But here they made him a human being, which I appreciate.
But then also we're like, OK, how about we add an extra
bookend into this conversation slash parallel.
So basically what he's explaining here is supposed to
mirror the I, umm and May triangle where like oops, I fell
in love with the wrong twin. That trope happened with the
misunderstanding and it didn't work out here because and then
so we go back in time to when Casol and I were dating and it
didn't work out. So it's similar in a similar
vein to when May was with UMM, not I it didn't work out because
they were not compatible. Same thing happened with so he's
like, yeah, this is not. And same with I, she's like,
yeah, this is no. Which means, which is supposed
to imply, if you follow this train of thought, OK, it's
supposed to imply that Casol and Umm are an end game ship the way
that I and May were an end game ship.
And to that I say Officer Hottie makes way more sense.
She does. They seem more compatible, it
feels like. But yeah, they're definitely
trying to show that first of all, I and UMM are the same.
Like they go on the same journeys.
We just don't have time to flush out like Umm's part of this.
It's just they're it's not her story.
Yeah. But yes, they were trying to set
up a love triangle parallel with a twin misunderstanding very
quickly at the end to be like, by the way, this was going on
the whole time. So there's that, which I don't
love. It again, feels rushed and kind
of out of nowhere and it's just cool, whatever.
And it's heterosexual propaganda in my mind.
But something I do like about this rewrite of Kasol AI and UMM
with this whole situation is that if you again, if you take
them at as comparisons in at the end of all of that, like what
happened with Mae and UMM, 4 alarm fire, right?
Really bad stuff, but when you take the Kasol I and UMM
situation, Kasol remained friends with I despite harboring
a crush for UMM, which says a lot about Kasol.
OK in comparison to the way the women handle everything and so.
But again, if you were to continue to follow that and say,
OK, canonically Kasol they can remain friends despite all the
stuff, then that also would imply that at the really at the
end of all of this, that may Umm and may and umm really could end
up being friendly eventually. But the difference really
between these comparisons is that the the triangle with all
the women, there's a lot more baggage there than there is with
the Kasol AI Umm situation. So it would make Boom and May's
reconciliation like a true friendship, a lot more difficult
and would probably take a lot more time to achieve versus like
Casol being like, I'll, I don't want to date you, but let's be
friends. Like that happened really fast.
Like there was never any implication that Casol and I
remained on the outs with each other for any extended period of
time. They just became friends pretty
quickly. Versus like Mei and Umm, it's a
year later. They're not friends, but they're
not enemies because they just did their final part of the
healing journey at the beginning of the last, you know, the last
part of the episode. So that's kind of like the foil
comparison I have with these things.
But like, I don't believe the propaganda that Casol and our
end game at all. Personally, I don't care what
you say GMBT rewrite. I mean, they can say whatever
they want, but like, eventually Umm's going to find her way to
Officer Hottie. That's what I'm hoping because
again, we're doing this whole thing like where he's like, oh,
I saw you, you're the one I was interested in.
And like, that just means that they're supposed to be together.
But like, that's not how that works.
At least I assume so. Like, you don't just see
someone, you're like, Oh my God, I'm connected to them.
That's who I'm going to be with them.
I mean, but is that not the whole narrative between me and
I? Oh, I know, I'm just.
Choosing to ignore that part, but that's what I mean Like
they're they're trying to set them up to be the same story
again and like, but I don't choose to believe it.
Honestly, it just feels too forced for these guys.
But go OOM for like she's always like no one picks me first and
he's like, no, but I picked you first.
But then I ended up in the whoops, I'm with the wrong twin
trope where I was with I and I'm like, you're not Oom.
So like, at the very least I hope Oom is flattered by that.
Yes, like this is just showing her because like again, foil
with I like they always felt like they were the second
choice, correct. And now this is her seeing now
knowing that she wasn't the second choice, right.
All the time. Oom was somebody's first choice.
Yeah, exactly. So that's what I get from that
scene, to be honest with you. So from this propaganda, it then
cuts to I and May walking away from the book signing, ditching
all of her fans and walking hand in hand.
And so my question to you guys and my challenge for you is at
this stage where they're walking away hand in hand, how many
people were waiting in line when I ditched the book signing?
All of them, but how many? I want a number.
That's fair. Because again, we cannot
canonically heard from Casol that he did not get his
autograph because I left so quickly.
So how many other people did not?
And it's like it had to be enough that they didn't notice
that Casol was there. Oh yeah.
I don't think I recognized a goddamn thing.
Once May showed up, she had blindness, but like, and Nemo
didn't either. So she had love is blind.
OK, so as they're walking away, I says to May, you still haven't
told me why you came to my book sign.
So like, again, they had no communication.
This was just Oh my God. I see you.
Literally everything else flades away.
And then 30 minutes later when they're walking, I was like, oh,
yeah. Why are you like I come on, it's
been a year. She's a sick puppy.
It's fine and then kudos to May because then she then tries to
flirt with I and she's like, well, I loved your novel and I
wanted my favorite writers autograph and you know what,
good for you May the way she instantly starts flirting
immediately with I once she's given the opportunity.
I good for you. It's been a year.
Appreciate that. Hydrate for me.
So here's me trying to flirt with I but then I is out of
practice when it comes to flirting.
It does not take the bait and instead says was it umm?
It's always umm oh God. So, and I think like, OK, first
of all, umm, on the brain, valid, but then also like in the
interim of them not seeing each other and or not communicating
directly with one another. I, I think I never doubted the
fact that May loves reading and loves her novels because again,
that is a thing that has connected them since the
beginning. And I has dedicated her novels
to May. The very first one that she
published was written with May. I don't think she doubts that
for a reason. She's like suddenly coming to me
because of a book. Great.
But I feel like there's more to that.
And and honestly, like again, the reason that they're
separated is because of the ultimatum that umm set.
So the only person who could rescind those rules is umm.
So like good logical conclusion. I honestly, and if you look at
May after I brings us up, she does look a little guilty.
She like kind of looks away and starts like fidgeting a bit.
So she's like, damn, you caught me.
I can't flirt my way out of this like normal.
And I do wonder like because May doesn't tell I immediately, Oh,
your sister intervened, blah, blah, blah.
I So I do wonder if this is a little bit of a callback of a
like a reflection to like the ultimatum itself.
In that scene where May was like, she had that one part
where she was really upset and like finally got the speaker
base and she's like, well, nobody asked me what I wanted.
And during that monologue, part of what she was upset about is
that I kept doing things because of, Oh, she's like, you came to
me because of, Oh, you left me because of oh.
So I wonder if this is a little bit of a call back to that
because I was like, you're here to see me, not because you love
me and love my novels. Are you here to see me because
of like, has the have the tables completely turned here?
OK, so which is valid? And again, if we're doing all
this parallel foiling, maybe that's what the writers
intended. Who knows?
OK, so after that I gets all emo and continues like oh you
wouldn't have had the courage to come see me if UMM wasn't
involved, You know, just like I didn't have the courage to ask
you to wait for me because I didn't know when UMM was going
to forgive me. So what you're saying I is that
if we honored Umm's, we honored Umm's ultimatum not out of
respect for UMM, but because we are all too cowardly to do what
we Yes, that's what that says. But like I of course that's
because UMM, like it's because of UMM that May knew it was OK
because like again, she knows that I would never do something
if UMM wasn't OK with it. So like, OK, that's true, but
not true because OK. But then I think about how we
get to this book signing event. I did reach out to May in her
own way, which is the novel she published, especially the very
explicit dedication to May. So like I always breaks around
rules. And then we have the flashback
evidence of I going to see May. So like, she does not actually
honor the ultimatum. Like she doesn't particularly.
The flat doesn't count as seeing her if she doesn't see her back,
though I think it does personally, Yeah.
But. I don't know.
So I'm lying as hoe. Would you anyway, OK.
And then I basically confirms what I've been saying is that
she's like, well, you know what? I'm glad you're here because I
really hoped that one of my books would bring you back to
me, which is super romantic because like I've mentioned many
times, like. The the books are.
What they bonded over first, like truly bonded over OK,
because it was one of the first I and May memories that was
independent of whom? Because up till up till that
point when they started talking about stories, everything was
very interwoven with I pretending to be Oom and trying
to fill in the blanks, be like what would Oom say in this
situation? But when it came down to their
love of stories, that was very mutual and very much between
them. Because then if you go back when
UMM and May were dating and talked about stories, UMM was
like, I like them because of my sister.
So there was no bonding over stories between the two of them.
That was a purely I and May thing.
So I do love the full circle of being like the stories or what
brought you back to me because that's kind of what they fell in
love over really. Plus May was the inspiration for
and instigation for I to complete the value of love.
And so implication is that same was true of this novel also.
And I think that May gets what I is trying to say here and is
really happy that I is still writing novels for her and only
her. And I love that May says I'm
back now, Miss Famous Writer. And the way she smiles so hugely
here is, is adorable. And I think there's two reasons
for this. One, she's really, really happy
because she's 3 inches away from I's face, so how could you not
be happy? But two, I think she's very
genuinely proud of I. And since the beginning, May has
been consistently very supportive of I's pursuit of
becoming a novelist. And here's like the fruits of of
like eyes labor again. She has a second book.
So I think that May is just genuinely proud of eyes
accomplishment here, too. So she is a famous writer.
She's not just a published writer.
Like look at all the fans that we ghosted.
I is I is very sick. Is a successful writer, which
like goes kind of beyond like the original goal I had of
writing. She's just I love it and I want
to do it. And May because of that was
like, yeah, do it. But here's I being like super
successful while doing it. So I think she's genuinely proud
of I yeah, May saw her potential very early on.
And it's, it's not just because like she loved her either,
because like she was. Reading the whole.
Thing like she could have been like, oh, this sucks, but she's
she knew that this would happen. Oh, in the novel May was like, I
this is a terrible book. You need to like, you need to
rewrite this bitch. Like she was giving her honest
feedback while I was going through the writing process.
So like she was doing that, but it ultimately made IA better
writer. Remember, we had those lessons
where she's like, you need to get indentured to your emotions.
I for some reason, you need to get naked and be in a bathtub.
Like, you know what I mean? We did all those things.
So May was again, the instigation of the the writing,
the way she kept like pushing I to be better.
But here's the second novel, honestly, like May wasn't there
for that journey. So like, here's I who continued
to improve and get better and better.
Now she is independently successful with.
And May, while she was the inspiration of this novel, she
wasn't the influence, like the daily influence of like here's
feedback, here's like, you know, things like that.
So she's proud of I for kind of doing this one more so on her
own than like the first novel where they kind of wrote it
together, honestly. So then after all of that, I
pulls May and close and like this is the first time they've
been in each other's personal space in over a year.
And I says welcome back in this very gentle and lovingly kind of
way. And then and then now we are in
each other's spaces. So then I very sweetly starts
caressing May's face, almost like she needs to convince
herself that this isn't a dream. Like I'm surprised the OSD
Somewhere Only We Know didn't start playing because that's
their dream sequence song. And if you notice that I's
reaction here when they're in the hug is very tender and
romantic while Maze is super thirsty, which is my favorite
reaction. I'm May is my favorite in this
scene because yeah, girl, if you watch what May is doing, May is
like checking out I's arm and she grabs and squeezes it almost
like she's like feeling eyes muscles through the sweater and
having inner thoughts. That's like, yes, she can still
lift me off the ground if she wanted to.
Like May gets thirsty in the sauce, which it's been a year,
so I love that. If you did not notice that, go
back and watch May. It's real thirsty actually, and
she keeps doing it. OK so they're not on the same
page. Like I seem romantic May as
being thirsty. I does not notice this and so
keeping the romance going I softly begs May basically never
to disappear again and like to be with her forever essentially.
And then I explains that basically loving May and losing
her was worse than never having loved her at all.
Hold on because like she says, don't disappear again.
Isn't it really I that disappeared on May because she's
the one who left her? I mean, yeah, but basically
she's like, OK, now that we don't have the barrier of umm
anymore, please never leave me again.
I think that's what she's saying.
But yes, it was I, I has amnesia.
I this was you and I walked away from me.
You're not innocent in everything.
Like you do some stuff, OK. And also, like ultimatum aside,
you've been the one consistently that runs away from me.
So if anyone should be begging anybody, it should be me to be
like, you disappear. You're on her all the time.
You are never allowed to go to your car unsupervised.
Like also she doesn't have a car.
You're never allowed to like, leave me for more than five
hours at a time because then you just disappear.
I'm putting AGPS tracker on you so I know where the fuck you are
at all times because you cannot be trusted.
I that's how they got the soul sync thing.
Yeah, exactly. OK, so anyway, back to the
statement where I was basically saying to, you know, to have
loved you and lost you is worse than never have loved you at
all. Like please never leave me.
This was really hard living without you or trying to.
And after all they've been through and like all they've
been through, if this declaration doesn't prove eyes
love and devotion to me, I don't know what will.
Because this was like, let's never be a part for it even a
second ever again, which is really what May was after since
episode 1. So this is a scene where May
May's finally restarting her winning streak when it comes to
I Congratulations May. It's you've been through so much
to get here. I hope it was worth it.
I think she'd say yes. And then after hearing that her
Prince Charming struggled to live without her, Mane's mind
drums straight in the gutter. Because look what her hands are
doing. She's checking out eyes muscles
again. I see you May.
And then May responds. You know, if this was a novel,
this would be the part where the Prince and the Princess kiss and
Mae's mind does not say, you know, and other stuff too.
I because those arms, she's so thirsty in the scene.
Because she's always focused on what she wants.
I don't blame. I don't blame you.
Good for you, Mae. It's been so long.
Put that thirst on display. It's been a year and no one has
to pretend they're blind, like, you know, OK.
And then I liked it. OK.
I also like that May pivots into book nerd flirting, which is
really cute because that's I's language, which is adorable.
And I is really cute here because she's like, well, what a
coincidence, There's a Prince and Princess right here.
And he's like, OK, well, let's do it.
Kiss me, damn it, I dare you. So then I leans in and sweetly
kisses May in a very chaste way like the gentlewoman she is.
And then I love the realism of what happens next because it's
it's been a long ass year OK? And I is basically like OK this
little Peck is not enough to properly hydrate for lesbian
Jesus. So then I totally catches me off
guard where she leans in again for a far less chaste kiss that
involves eye cupping May's face. And the cutest part about this
too. First of all, I gets thirsty
when it was May who's been thirsty the whole time.
Good for you I, but I love that. May then steals the kiss from I
at the end like and she's smiling like a little kid on her
birthday. It's like the cutest thing ever.
Anything to say about this, Caitlin?
Well, when we shift a slightly more, we see the bridge and I
just find that it's like very poetic how like this takes place
in the same place where I was when she was getting rejected to
all those jobs and like who resumes were flying like it's
just her life was crumbling. She was at her lowest point at
this place and now she's at her highest.
That's a good point. So it just like rewrote the
story of this place and like what it means to her.
That's a really good point. And then keep going here.
I do like how we transition from the bridge in the daytime to the
bridge in the night time to actually prepare us for the next
scene of the at night rather than, you know, just jumping and
be like, OK, time's passed. Valid, valid.
OK, so then, yeah. So then we basically recede into
the distance as I and May continue to make out beneath the
bridge. To your point, and honestly, I'm
really surprised the amount of PDA on display from these two.
Like they're out in public. Oh, they don't see public.
They they see they're, they're in a box.
I guess. I guess that's it.
Maybe that speaks to just how they don't see anything else
because usually they're very like, or at least culturally,
it's very much like PDA is rare and chased if anything.
And like, I'm just surprised the amount of like like public
display of affection they have going on in this scene because
it's not like people can't see them.
It's they're next to a bridge where there's cars and people
and like they're they're visible.
So I'm just surprised that they did so much PDA here.
But I think they're just so blinded.
That's fair, just again, surprising in a tie drama to see
that just in general. OK so then later that night, to
your point, We then head back to Meemaw's where Oom is pondering
life all alone on the couch until Meemaw joins her.
And when the scene begins, to me it's very reminiscent of the
flashback scene in episode 8 where UMM was crying over Mei on
the couch at night and Meemaw comes in to comfort her.
OK so we have that scene where basically UMM sitting on the
couch and it's kind of like the camera is far as further away.
So you get like some of the hallway and then UMM sitting on
the couch versus the close up of her on the couch.
And in episode 8, it starts off the same way.
And if you remember when we talked about that scene, if you
don't remember, go back and re listen to that episode.
But in that sequence of events where UMM is being comforted by
Neemaw, I talked about how like the camera basically like slowly
zooms out as that conversation is going on.
So it makes UMM look smaller and smaller and smaller on the couch
as that's happening. Because umm, that's how she was
feeling in that scene. Very small, unloved kind of
thing. But here we have the opposite
thing happening, where the camera is actually zooming in
slowly on UMM and she looks bigger because UMM feels better
in this scene. And so when Mima comes in, she
acknowledges how difficult it was for UMM to let go of the
past so that I and May can be together.
And she's incredibly proud of UMM for doing it.
And Mima smiles and beams and calls great and pulls her into a
hug. And I'm really happy that
somebody acknowledges Umm's accomplishments with her mental
health and just how far she's come with all of that.
Because Mima's right. Like it wasn't easy for UMM.
That was the whole reason we ended up on this journey.
That's the whole reason episode 11 happened, because it was so
hard for UMM. But UMM did overcome it and let
it go. Yeah, and we'll see just how far
she's come with what she says after this.
OK, so then UMM kind of explains what she learns to your point.
So in the cycle of everyone hurting each other and to try
and get what they want, UMM learned that love is not always
about prioritizing your own happiness.
Love can also be about facilitating happiness for the
people you love. And I do wonder what reflections
UMM had when she was in therapy to get to this place.
Like I'd like to think that she was in a better emotional space
and able to think rationally. And she when she revisited the
May stuff and realized that denying I access to May was
equal yet opposite to UMM being with May when May didn't want
her. And I wonder if she really
thought to herself, is the price of monopolizing I's love worth
all this pain? Which is the same rationale I
has for walking away from May. And it's just interesting to me
how much, because you brought this up earlier, it's just
interesting to me how much I and Umm's journeys really do
parallel one another, even though they're, they rarely
intersected as adults, but they were just on such similar paths.
Granted, they're going through they're in different scenarios,
but what they were dealing with is pretty similar.
Yeah. And it also shows how like,
yeah, they're twins and like, there's their siblings.
But like, it just shows that you aren't alone.
Like your experiences aren't unique.
Like there's someone else going through similar situations as
you. It's not going to be exactly the
same, but they are learning the same lessons.
They're struggling with the same feelings.
And like, you're just not alone in your, I don't know, it makes,
at least to me, it makes you feel less alone.
Yeah. Cuz as human beings, we have
more in common that we do have differences.
And people forget about that, about that, which is how you get
racism and homophobia. Yeah, I'm serious.
No, I know. But like to your point, I don't
know what exactly Oom discovered in therapy, but you can tell
that UMM has done a lot of work. Yes, because she is thinking
more positively rather than like negatively like doom everything
and she's seeing the bigger picture of everything and
thinking about how others feel rather than how she feels.
She's thinking rationally also like think about the way she's
describing stuff. She's like, I now see that,
like, you know, what I was doing was harming people and not worth
it for that because like I was thinking I was so lost in my
feelings. I wasn't considering other
people's, as you know. And then when I stepped, stepped
back and thought about it, like thought about it, not felt about
it, thought about it, I realized it wasn't worth it.
Like my happiness could come from other people's happiness,
not just like my. But again, that's the, that's
the logic of a depressed person who has not felt happiness in a
like genuine happiness in a really long time and is like, I
just need to feel happy. So I don't feel like this
anymore. Like so kudos to how they wrote
UMM because they really did capture like what a depressed
person goes through and how it just really warps her reality so
much that like to outside people like it her, what she's saying
and, and and what she's trying to communicate is unrecognizable
because they cannot empathize with her.
So I love that we have here to wrap this all up.
Yes, UMM learned a ton of things, but like what's going on
with Meemaw? So if you watch Meemaw during
the scene, she's beaming very proudly at UMM.
Like clearly she's proud of all the healing that UMM has, all of
the healing that UMM has, and like the journey she went on.
And then when UMM is finished explaining what she learned,
Mima says whenever you feel unhappy, just let me know when I
will come to you right away, OK? So that's Mima acknowledging
that sometimes UMM needs help when she's falling back into a
depression, OK? And I love that we have Mima
speaking like this about Umm's mental health and she's not
speaking punitively about the depression, which we've seen in
some Thai dramas, like go back to The Secret of Us, when Worm's
character Earn is getting depressed and suicidal, and then
she gets shamed because of it. And this is a cultural thing.
It's a, it's a form of weakness. And like, how dare you do this?
Because if you harm yourself, that harms me.
And like, that was the the cultural perception of that
scene. But if you have a different
perception of like mental health as this, like, you know, as a,
you know what it is something that you can treat something
where that person needs help. Like if you have a different
view, which again, we can sit here now in 2026 and be like,
wow, I can't believe people respond that way.
But like, OK, being empathetic towards people with mental
health issues is a new thing. We're the outliers historically
by having that view. So like, it's easy for us to
judge other people's reactions like that.
So I say that to say that like Mima, who is of an older
generation than UMM, again, we didn't fully get her story, but
it would have been really interesting to see how Mima
really came to terms with the fact that her precious
granddaughter is having this really severe mental health
crisis. Because like Mima's generation
would be expected to react the way the secret of us reaction
was to blame UMM for it and not support her.
So I love that Mima off screen must have came a very long way
to just be here and be like, umm, the next time you need
help, come to me and I will support and help you when you're
feeling sad, when you feel like you're going to get depressed
again to come to me first and let's, I'll support you through
it. So basically she's saying I'm
I'll be your safe space when you're in like this situation
again. And I love that she gets there.
I do too. Yeah, that's a really good
point. I'm just very happy for UMM and
the way Eyes Eyes Family also had to come on this journey.
Not had to, but they chose to come on this journey with UMM
and not just like financially support her through the rehab
center, which I'm sure they were doing because UMM wasn't
working, but they were emotionally there for physically
there for UMM. And I think that like again, the
ultimatum was crazy, but I think that this family needed that
time. They needed that break away from
the May drama to like they needed to all heal because
that's how you get this scene. Yeah.
And by supporting UMM through this journey, like I feel like
they've had to have at least one family session.
So like they're all working on themselves as well to be there
for UMM. So really it was just.
A beneficial. I forget what the word is
situation for all of them because they're all able to
grow. Yeah.
I, I, I, I agree because again, I, I anticipate that like,
Meemaw had to learn all about this mental health stuff from
the rehab center also. And like so did I, it would have
been really cool and like totally not necessary for the
show because this revolves around I but like to see like
family education classes at the facility, just teaching family
members about like what people like what their family members
are going through. Like these are the terms.
This is how they're feeling. This is how you can help them
through it, because that's also a big thing.
Like they had to learn how what to say to because without
triggering correct exactly. And that's something huge that
but people like, people don't know what to say and a lot of
times they end up making things a lot worse.
So I think that would've been cool.
But that was just that's pure selfish.
Like I just, I think that's that's needed in general.
Yeah. And a Thai girl of drama that
did do that is Mate, which was written by Chaplainoy too.
So yeah, they had good one of the character.
No, it's no spoilers. One of the characters goes
through like a really bad trauma.
And like, the main plot does revolve, well, not the main
plot, one of the plots. And her arc revolves around this
going to therapy. And so they do have sessions
with the therapist that are pretty good.
That's awesome. But that was a main plot.
Whereas GMMTV did all of this independent of the novel.
Like, UMM doesn't go to therapy in the novel.
OK, All right. So after we, after they talk
about all that, I and umm, umm and Mima then say I love you to
each other. OK, My favorite part, because if
there's one lesson you should take away from Pluto, it's to
tell people you love them now and often.
And don't wait until one of them is in a coma.
Tell them now. Again, I've said this in another
episode, but if you do anything today, go tell someone that you
love them. Look yourself in the mirror and
also say I love you. Yes, I mean it.
Yes, we'll know that's we'll know you Don't do it.
Don't ask us out. Do it, but do it for yourself,
not for us, because you're supposed to be doing it for
yourself. Yes, but let us motivate you.
OK, so then after that, really poignant, an amazing scene, we
then transition to a noodle scene.
I'm convinced it was unscripted. Me too.
I'm convinced there was no script for this.
OK, so then here we go. The premise here is that I spent
the night with May because lesbianism, and then May is
making food because parallels. And instead of their special
omelet, which would have made more sense narratively, GMMTV
needed these bitches to sell noodles.
So here we are. The omelet really would have
made more sense. I know you think you would think
that when they've been separated for a year, they would make
their special meal together, especially in the morning, but
they don't. They make noodles because they
need to sell shit. OK, all right.
And then based on how ridiculous I in particular is in the scene,
I'm not convinced this was scripted.
And I, I don't think Nam Ton is actually in character.
I think she's just being her high energy, ridiculous self
while film is cooking. And I love it because in this
scene, Nam Ton is a ridiculous human.
And it makes the scene really funny because at one point she
starts chanting Chef May and starts weaving her hands almost
like they're on a cooking show. Yeah, I love that part.
I love it. But it's not just her, though.
Film is just as playful because, like, at the end when I when I
is doing that, like hyping her up to the crowd, that doesn't
exist. Like film does this like power
pose as if she's like, yeah, right, Damn right.
I'm a master chef for making these noodles.
But like, kudos to may in this scene because she didn't just
make noodles. She just like she like adds ham,
she adds scallions. It's like it is professional as
fuck looking. She makes I wait for it and I, I
it's just really cute to see how I just watches may put stuff in
the noodles and like instead of complain that it's taking too
long, Like no, she wants to be in this moment being like, oh,
this, she's taking care of me. She's showing me that she loves
me. Exactly.
Doing all this effort. Yes.
And then my other favorite part is at the end where Nam Tom
initiates the Lady of the Tramp moment where they share the
doodles. Yeah.
I was like, was that scripted? None of this was scripted.
I'm just it. They couldn't have been.
But OK. So it's basically them being
ridiculous, which is funny and cute after all we've been
through. OK.
But what I do like about this scene that is relevant to the
story is that I and May are actually cooking together.
If you actually watch them, like, yeah, it's mostly May, but
I does help May, like, get the noodles out of the pot.
She also adds the seasoning. And this is the first time
they've done this together. OK.
Like cooking at the same time because up till now, it's been
one person cooking for the other person.
So I think that's important here is that like, they're they're
A-Team now. They're not just like
individuals trying to court each other like they're on the same
page. Finally.
Yeah, that's the only actual analysis I have of the scene
that I think was unscripted and ridiculous.
Yeah. This this is mostly just for
product placement. I do think it's a better way to
work in the product placement than those random scenes at the
end, 100 million percent, which is why I think they're random at
the end. I don't know that where they
actually fit in when they aired the episode.
OK. After the improvised ad, we then
transitioned to domestic, I and May living their lives.
And I walks into May's study with a mountain of her own
novels and is like May, why did you buy 20 copies of my books?
We're married. I don't get this.
May is single. Handedly trying to get I on the
bestseller list. She is and May is like, listen,
I see my wife's book on a shelf in the shop.
I buy the book. It's simple math.
I, I don't, Why are you confused?
And then she tries to like, again, turn this into a flirting
session because I look kind of upset.
And she's like, well, don't you like me buying your books?
Am I not being sweet? And she hangs her head like, May
and like, pinches her brows and she's like, aw, like, are you
really going to get mad at me at first supporting your writing
career? I'm just trying to be nice.
And then maybe this was unscripted too, because then I
pinches the corner of Mae's mouth into a smile, kind of, and
then lifts her head up and says you're being sweet but it's a
waste of money. And then Mae does the cheek
pinching thing right back when she tells I for you the word
waste doesn't really apply. And then I love that I gets
really serious and commands May to never say that to anyone ever
again and May freezes like she's like OK shit I thought we were
flirting I did something wrong. I thought we were flirting and
being silly. And now it's been less than 24
hours and I've already fucked this shut up Oh my God.
But I just being an ass and says it's too cute and it's really
nice to see them being playful and cute because we've been
through emotional hell during act three of the story and I
needed this tooth rotting fluff that is currently on display.
Personally, it's it's quite nice.
It was quite nice. Finally, this whole part minus
what's about to happen is just very happy and just feel good.
Tooth rotting fluff. Go see a dentist everyone.
OK so to your point, they're giggling.
Gay fest ends abruptly when May gets a text from her father and
it's a meme I guess of a yellow orchid flower at a text that
says hello happy Monday which is so random to get when from your
estranged father. Yes, 100%.
OK, so May is about to like, transition back to like battle
mode in a minute and try to decipher the code of whatever
this is. And so I'm going to help her out
a little bit because yellow orchids, and this is a yellow
orchids will keep coming up. So like, what the hell does it
symbolize? So yellow in general can mean
joy, friendship. Yellow orchids can mean that
too, but they can also mean new beginnings.
And I'm sure that's what the writers wanted us to pick up on.
But I'm with May in this scene, OK, When she's looking at this,
and thanks to trauma, May's initial reaction is suspicion
because what the fuck is this? And also what does it mean?
And what does he want? And does he know I'm back with
I? Is this a threat?
I feel like all of those questions are going through her
mind when she's looking at this flower that says Happy Monday.
And I think that's fair. I think that's fair, knowing
what we know about I and May's father's relationship since she
was a child. Don't you agree?
OK, and then I is looking at this and she's like, well what's
going on? And May immediately tells her
and by and hands over her phone. So finally these two were done
keeping secrets from each other. And then May crosses her arms,
closing herself off while I inspects the text.
And I concludes that this random Monday mean is pretty normal for
boomers to send because apparently meanwhile does it all
the time. OK, so first, I love that I put
Mima and May's father in the same age category.
They're nowhere near the same age.
I do love that. But also, she's not wrong.
My father also sends me this type of stuff for like holidays
and my birthday. I'm like, OK, you figured out
the gifts and the graphics. Great job, dad, Right.
So random, right. So like, it's not, again, just
looking at that being like, my dad, my dad sent me this with no
context. Yeah.
I's response is like, yeah, that's what people who didn't
grow up with the Internet do. Sure.
OK. But again, trauma and the
context. I Who is sending this text?
So May insist that it's never that simple when it comes to her
father because he's never done anything like this, meaning that
her father has never done anything kind to her just for
the sake of being kind. And that is supremely fucked up.
And the root of May's insecurity is when it comes to love and
relationships. It's that deep.
OK. And according to May, her father
is an elitist self-serving bastard that views people as
pawns on a chess board. Her words not mine.
She's not wrong either. Absolutely not.
That is what we have been shown consistently throughout the
series. For once I'm on May's side.
100,000 percent on May's side in the sea I think.
Eyes being insane, but also eyes.
And that's fine. OK.
And then hearing all of this, I decides to ask May if she's seen
her father at all over the last year.
And it's like, what do you mean? I you're acting like you've
never met May's father. I know, right?
You don't even want to be in the same room as him, right?
You've met this man multiple times.
You've seen this man interact with May before.
And like I get that right now I own is in a better place with
her family and wants that for me because she loves me.
And obviously in a perfect world you would want your girlfriend
and her family to be whole and lovey dovey the way yours now
is. But you and your whole family
went to therapy I so your family healing after years of
dysfunction makes sense. The plot with me and her father
at this point does not and it never will because I was almost
like gaslighting man in this land, which like, how does it
feel me? But also like, this is fucked up
because I, you've met this man before.
You've met him. You, you heard the whole story
from me where she was like, you know, the reason I got into all
this shit in the 1st place is because my father was
threatening Umm's life. And so I ended up in the Batman
case because you heard all of that.
Like, what is this? And May thinks this is weird
because it is weird. It's super weird, and you can't
convince me otherwise. OK.
But something that I do think is important.
In the scene that May says when I asked this really stupid
question, I'm like, have you seen your dad in the past year?
May reveals that like, well, I've seen my mother, but not my
father. And that makes sense given the
entire back story of May and her parents.
Like her mother is trapped in that marriage and like has done
little things in the past to support May.
It hasn't always been enough. But it makes sense that May and
her mother would see each other but not her father because her
father was on his fuck shit her whole life.
I really hate this part. Same.
This also does not happen in the novel.
GMMDV designed the freestyle. This too.
And why? To what end?
Gmail TV You.
Usually nail it. What the hell was this?
Show me the receipts, but we'll get into There are none.
There are no receipts here. OK.
And then I it says OK, maybe your dad misses you.
And then may tries to reason why her father is reaching out to
her out of nowhere and comes to the conclusion that he must be
so I'll that his brain is malfunctioning.
And honestly, that is a much more plausible scenario than
what Pluto the series is trying to give us.
OK, Honestly, yes, I, I'll say this in the next part that we
like the cover anyway, but like, I would take, I would, I would
take over what happens that he has a tumor and like, we have to
support him through that. And like, because that makes
more sense. That makes way more sense.
And then she has to visit him on his deathbed in the hospital and
we kind of make amends because what, even though it's unearned
because like, what did umm just do?
Umm let go of the past to make amends and forgive people so
that she can relieve herself with the burden and make them
happy. And like, sure, that would make
way more sense than whatever the hell this was.
So I'm super with me on this in this whole scene.
And then this scene ends with May's mind racing 100 miles a
minute trying to mastermind her way out of this scenario and
figure out what the fuck her father is doing.
Well, I watch as helplessly and looks really concerned because
yeah, this is concerning. I what the fuck?
And then we hard cut to I and May driving to Korat and May is
rubbing her hands together like clearly agitated while I drives
and then asks I do we really have to go?
I could just call them instead. Why I must be physically drive
there, gas money, I etcetera. And I responds, if you could,
you wouldn't have gotten in the car with me.
Like you need to go see for yourself and know what's going
on with him, which is true. Like I knows Mae well enough to
know that she needs all the facts and all the information,
even if the facts you yourself don't know about, she needs to
know them. OK.
And then this car ride ends or the scene ends with them driving
intense silence all the way to May's family's house.
Poor May. I, you know, I feel bad for May
in the scene. I do because I feel like she's
kind of be, she's being gaslit by the writers, you know?
And I think this is like a time, like, she's feeling anxiety too,
because, like, now she has to see her father that she hasn't
seen, like, and that is terrible.
And she doesn't know what's going on.
Like, is she about to lose her father, too?
Like, yeah, no. Does she care about losing her
father also That. Yeah.
Like, what about her mom? Why doesn't her mom say
anything? Yeah, that's what I mean.
I think her brain is just running through a million
different scenarios right now. And I think that's why I is
like, OK, I see. I see that look on your face.
I know when you're strategizing, let's go.
We have to physically go there because even if you got on the
phone with them and talked to them, you're not going to fully
believe what they're saying. So I have to physically take you
there. So from I's point of view, like
driving her to crack actually does make a lot of sense because
she knows may well enough to know that like a phone call is
not going to satisfy you. Even if you were to call them.
She's like, you could have called him right after you got
that text and you didn't. So I don't think you're going
to. But it's also not going to
satisfy you. So, like, let us let's just go
there and just take all the mystery out of this, even though
this is a mysterious scenario. Yeah.
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Excited so picking up with. Part 4 of this episode May and I
arrive at May's parents house and as soon as May enters alone,
she is greeted by her father silently watching with his hands
in his pockets. And to me, it resembles weak
confidence, like with his hands in the pockets, it kind of
signals that he doesn't really know what to do or how to act
right now. 'Cause this is.
New territory for him, this is new territory for us as well.
Like what the hell is happening? What is happening?
Meanwhile, May's mom immediately goes to May and asks her what
she wants to eat, and she will cook it for her right now.
Here's the deal though. Mae's mom was so happy to see
Mae when she walks in this room. And honestly, it to me, it felt
really jarring giving where we left off with Mae's family, like
the last time we had a scene with all of them.
And I, yes, I know a year has passed, but I I feel like we
could have had a few more scenes with them prior to this
encounter to make this feel less weird.
Like, even from Mae's mom. Yeah.
I mean, like, you know, so Mom's very eager to please and, like,
show her how much she loves her. And but that's.
Too eager but like this is something that hasn't changed.
Like she has always been like loving her daughter.
Oh I know but it's never been this like unrestrained like in
the presence of the dad. Like, that's what I mean by
jarring cause usually mom shrinks next to dad.
So like, this scene felt very jarring to me based on where we
left off with all of them. And if you look at Mae, Mae
looks terrified of her parents in this scene because this is
weird. And this all, all of this is
behavior is atypical for them. Like all of it.
Like in the context of everything, it's very strange.
Yeah. Anyway, yeah, But like, with the
way that mom is being very eager, like, I feel like, and
like she has been like this when the father wasn't involved with
me growing up. And I feel like she's just been
trying to overcompensate for her father's lack of love and like,
the fact that she never stood up for her.
So especially now that she feels comfortable being like this in
front of the father, like she's trying to make up for all this
lost time. But to May, who doesn't
understand the context of all this, it's fucking weird.
It is and it it will. It's still.
Weird. No matter how it keeps getting
weird and it keeps getting weirder.
OK, but May is too focused on her father right now, and she
looks to him. Who gets this weird facial?
Expression on his face. Like he is agreeing with her
mother and wants May to answer her.
And May tells her mom that she's just passing by and so she stops
to visit. But my miss mom is very focused
on feeding her because that is how she can show her that she
loves her. So she says that she should make
May something delicious, and I'm just glad that she doesn't want
to give her something disgusting.
Well, I think she's trying to. The other thing about the food
is like, yes, it's love language, but also if she cooks
for her and May eats the food, that's a longer visit than May
passing by. So I think she's trying to
entice May to stay at the house longer.
That's what this is. So she's just really selling it.
Yeah. But Mae is like, I don't wanna
be here in the 1st place, right? She's rightfully suspicious of
all this shit and looks fucking terrified.
She's like, who are you that you guys get abducted by aliens?
Seriously. Since the last time we were all
in a room together, Like. Yeah.
So Mae tells her that it's OK and she's.
She was not gonna stay long. And Mae's response kind of makes
her mom's eyes go a bit wide, and she looks to her father,
prompting him to speak. And the first thing out of his
mouth is to say that there are Chinese pears in the kitchen
that are from Mae's favorite merchant and he bought them this
morning. And OK, if we have to have this
arc that is about to happen, apparently we do.
At the very least, he didn't make the first thing out of his
mouth. Something about him which is
weird. Yes, it is weird from everything
we know about him. But yes, it was truly focused on
the conversation and about something that May likes and
like he could have been like, I want to talk to you, blah, blah,
blah. This is how I'm feeling.
Yeah, right. And the question is, did May's
dad remember her favorite merchant and go there like, and
the and about the Paris or was it really her mom telling him to
go get them? Because her mom talks about
remembering how much she loved them as a kid and offers to peel
some and pack them to go. I'm going with that one.
Yeah, probably. But you know, so during all
this, May looks so confused and a little concerned because what
the hell is happening? Seriously, She has IMA in these
two scenes and all these scenes and like, like we just brought
up like, yes, her mom's usually like this, but her father
usually stops the mom from actually being nice to her.
Yes, it's like too much. And I would be even more
suspicious of this because it's almost like they're
overcompensating and overcompensating for what?
Like if I was May, I'd be like, what the fuck are you guys
hiding? Who is dying?
Like, you know what I mean? Like this is all.
It seems like there's something they're trying to smooth
something else over by being way too nice because they've never
been this, this nice to her. Like even the mom, like mom has
been nice and loving to me, but not this strongly, you know what
I mean? Like this is a lot coming at her
even from mom. Mom's been more subtle, you know
what I mean? In the scenes that we've gotten
previously, this is unrestrained and it's very weird given her
conservative household. Like it's just this is like the
equivalent of like PDA, you know what I mean?
Where it's like this is very. You guys have never done this
before, ever. Yeah.
So May just politely smiles and nods because.
What else do you do? When you enter an alternate
universe. Serious.
No, seriously, It's like she entered.
Yeah, yeah, that's exactly what this is.
May's face goes back to confusion when she's left alone
with her father. And she looks like a small child
a bit here because, like, she doesn't know how to act in front
of him or even what to say right now.
And we go to a wide shot here, like, where we see the father
and may I forget the father's name.
It doesn't. It's just the father who cares.
And they like, And there's a sizable gap between them and,
like, the cameras further away from them.
And this is giving the audience the feeling of awkwardness and
just the amount of distance between these two emotionally
right now. Yeah.
Not on the same page.
And May starts by saying that she saw his message and asks him
if he wants something because like, yeah, valid.
That that's what usually happens, Yes.
And her dad fidgets a little and then says wasn't it pretty?
Which confuses me even more. And her.
Face. Kind of stutters before she asks
what because what? OK this?
It reads like this is his first human conversation.
You know what I mean? It reads like this is the first
time he's having a conversation with another human being.
He's just so awkward about it. Yeah, It's like, this is my
first human conversation. Like, it is, though, because
trying to learn how to be a person, that's how this reads.
He's usually demanding something from somebody.
So this probably is the first conversation he had out of
nowhere and like. OK, so back to May being like
what? Like.
He just shows up out of the. Blue sending her a message
because it was quote pretty and like hold on to your what's May,
because the what's are about to keep on coming and they can't
stop and they won't stop. But May's face is hilarious
because she's she's genuinely confused here.
I bet she should be. And her father?
Clarifies that he is talking about the flower photo and he
thought it was pretty so he sent it to her.
And. Sorry, May's just like that
cannot be the reason his brain is broken.
I use May in her mind being like, I think he's got three
months left to live. Like, yeah, definitely.
And like, May isn't sure how to respond, so we go back to a wide
shot of them again. And so I want to talk about that
for a second, like now. When you go.
To a wide shot in the middle of a scene.
So usually wide shots are like establishing at the very
beginning that and then we get closer to like be to really get
absorbed into the scene. So when you go to a wide shot in
the. Middle of the scene.
It is meant to take the audience out of the emotion that is
happening. Yeah.
And here it's used to show the disconnect between me and her
father because they're still not on the same page.
Because Mei can't figure out her father's intentions.
Since this is all new territory for everyone involved, it's
valid, very valid, Mei. And if her father wasn't being
out of character enough, let's keep going.
He then tells her that her friend doesn't have to wait out
in the car and is then concerned because it is hot and May is
probably like, oh, is this a threat?
You know, Umm's here. I mean, I, I mean, oh, shit.
Is he you're going to try to murder them again?
Like, again, I would love to know the inner monologue in her
that May is having at the scene. Oh, yeah, seriously.
And like, here he is caring about someone else and it
doesn't directly affect him or seems to care about somebody
else or, or does it? It might affect him.
All right. Right.
Because now that I think about it, it could be a lot like how
we are reading into May. Absolutely.
And like, her father might not actually care about I, but May
does, which means he has to as well.
Correct. If he wants to get to May.
This is where she learned it from.
It's genetic. Yeah.
No. Yes, absolutely.
I cosign that read and when and when he tells her to tell her
friend to come inside, Mae's face is the most surprised out
of this whole conversation. Because this has.
Never happened because who is this man and what has he done to
her father? Yes, think about the last again.
The last time that they were in a room together that we saw,
remember, that's when Mae was like, oh, there's going to be a
new Batman case. I'm not representing him.
He's going down. You're going down too, for your
shady shit. And then I shows up and then
what does he say? He's like you again.
You have the nerve to come into my house.
That's how he treats I and umm, or whoever he thinks she is.
And so, like, here he is being like your friend, You know, the
one I hate. She should come inside because
it's hot outside. It feels like a threat.
Like, if I was a man, I'd be like, are you threatening her
right now? Like, because he was like, how
dare you come into my house the last time?
Yeah, So it's just all seems really crazy coming from it.
Like if you're may in the scene and and us because what is this
and why? But like seriously, what is
happening like this makes no sense, makes no sense in the
context of the show. And like, we aren't even into
the craziest part of the so-called redemption work yet.
We're just. Getting started and we've also.
Talked a lot about how May likes to be in control and is always
10 steps ahead of everyone. She she's right there before
you're even thinking about something.
Right now she's feeling like she's 100 steps behind and
doesn't even see how to figure out what is going on right now
basically. May.
Is the audience right now? Yes.
All right. So we then cut to.
These family photos on the mantle and the photos we see
have no emotion in them. The faces are expressionless
and, like, more typical of what we see from the father.
There is also distance between the three of them.
And like, the group family photo.
And like, even in the photo of just her parents, it's her mom
who has to reach out to her father, who is not even
reciprocating. Classic conservatism and a
patriarchy. Yeah.
And these photos. Are being used to contrast how
the father is behaving right now like but I don't understand why
they did this because it just makes it even more out of
character for that's exactly. It just reinforces not helping
their case for this redemption art.
It reinforces how there's no receipts for this scene at all.
Seriously. OK, so we then go to May with
her mom in the kitchen and May still seems confused and
concerned and tells her mom that she has a serious question,
which is is her dad doing OK or is he like sick and not telling
her? Because like, here's the deal.
I think that May came to the conclusion that her father is
now suddenly trying to rack up a bunch of good merit because he's
on his deathbed. And that's why he that's why
she's so insistent in the scene that he's not well, like health
wise because she's like, I feel like he's trying to change his
karma before he is reincarnated or some shit.
Like, yeah, that's like, that's a great point.
And that's a very valid conclusion to come to if based
on literally everything that has happened at the show.
And then like her mom seriously, seriously asked, why would you
think that? I think the fact that mom is so
uncurious about dad's change in behaviour is wild.
Well, apparently we do address that in like a second.
But like I still don't buy it but like.
I don't know. Why she would she think that?
Because there's a friendly alien that has possessed his body.
I know. But like, mom does not think
twice about it. She's like, I don't know, he's
in a good mood. Let's move on.
Because like, I think that she has been so abused by this man
that she's just happy he's isn't emotionally and physically
assaulting her anymore. And she's just trying to keep
him happy. So she's like, I don't want to
poke. We got a good thing going here.
Why ask questions? That's Mom's energy.
Yeah. Like, she's just tired of having
to live this terrible life. But like, Mom's energy being
uncurious about this 180 pivot makes sense because she's had
Stockholm syndrome the whole show when it comes to this guy.
So like, Mom's behavior makes sense.
So like, so babe's never going to get answers out of those
conversations, is what I'm saying?
Like real ones. OK, so her mom then goes back to
peeling pears like everything is normal, which it isn't.
So May emphasizes that he sent her a photo of flowers, flowers
mom. And her mom smiles and says that
he sends them to her too and that he has been into planting
flowers lately and maybe he just wanted to share it with her.
So has my question is, has he also gone into a treatment
center where like they told him to get a hobby to use as a
coping skill or something like mom did not come from?
Mom did not mention that. That's what I mean by mom is
uncurious about what happened. She's like, I don't know, he
plays Flowers now. But.
Why? When did this happen?
What is he doing? Yeah, that's what I mean by
she's not curious about why he changed his behavior.
She's just like, I don't know. It is what it is now.
Yeah. Mae's like, this is weird.
Yeah, anyway, this this whole thing doesn't make it a goddamn
sense and it never will. But anyway, can do you.
May isn't convinced that this is normal and asked her mom when
the last time he had a health check up was.
I know. Yeah, I'm with May.
And like, it's, it's a valid concern because your mom's left
like we talked about, like this guy could have a tumor affecting
his behavior and making him nice.
But again, the mom just like just wants to go with it.
Again, mom again, dad is selfish.
So he could be like, I'm trying to make amends before I leave
this world. That way when I'm reincarnated,
I'm not a bug or whatever. So he's like, again, it's that
would be a self motivated reason to be nice because if May and
her dad share that in common. But of course, May would be
like, if this were me, that's what I would do.
So like, yeah, like, you know, I think maybe she's projecting a
bit here too. There's no way this is selfless
is what May is getting at. And mom's like, I don't know,
he's being nice. Just.
Yeah. Yeah.
She does say, like, she also wondered the same thing at
first, but he is healthy and she doesn't know what changed him.
Again, I'm curious. She's uncurious about this.
Anyway, it's ridiculous. Sorry.
I kid you. It's just the same.
Pisses me off, her mom continues.
And like brings up when May told him someone made him blind and
that she thinks that he has been cured.
Now all our problems have gone away.
Just let's focus on that. And this is a lot for May to
take in, and she still seems confused, but maybe her words
had a positive effect on him. She's like, he's never once
listened to me in my entire life, why would he suddenly
listen to me now? Also makes no sense.
Yep. All right.
So we then cut to eye walking around the outside of the house
and she starts to admire all the plants when well, no, she
gravitates to the yellow orchid. Yes, because the writers are
trying to symbolize something here, but I don't believe it.
New beginnings, that's what this is supposed to be, this whole
scene, but I don't buy it because it came out of nowhere.
Yes, as I is admiring this yellow orchid, May's dad comes
up behind her scaring the shit out of her when he asks do you
like them? Hein.
Quickly. Stands up and greets him as he
smiles weirdly. Like his smile isn't weird, it's
just weird that he's smiling. Yes, which makes it a weird
smile. Then he says something
stereotypical, which is the least surprising part of this
whole thing, which is that she is a girl, so she he assumes
that she likes flowers. Yeah, I will say that this
conversation is the weirdest combination of sexism and
chivalry that I've ever seen because, yeah, it starts with,
hey, you're a girl, so you like flowers, which is the sexism
part. And then it transitions into the
use of poetic language in a plant to say I give you
permission to marry my daughter. Like, it's the weirdest fucking
thing I've ever seen. Yeah, it's so weird.
That's basically the same. Yep, moving.
On to the next scene. I'm kidding.
We're going to keep going with the scene, all right.
So he continues to say that he doesn't think May does though,
because apparently his yellow, the one meme he sent her, didn't
go over well. And it's like, Sir, I looks
concerned herself here because. How do you react?
To May is Dad being nice? Apparently I has amnesia about
who this man is, which is like you haven't seen your dad in a
year. I do not remember him like what
the hell I, and like she does tell him that May does like the
like flowers and. And there is a couple seconds of
awkwardness before May's dad grabs the orchid that I was
admiring and asks I to help plant it at May's house.
And I'm going to stop describing the confused faces now because
we should all just assume I and May both look confused the
entire time the dad is involved. Yes.
And I nods, agreeing to help plant it, and May's dad hands
the plant over to I and tells her to take good care of it.
He isn't talking about the plant, though, because the plant
is a metaphor for May. Also.
I does not plant plant it. She.
No, she doesn't. They also don't take care of it.
Right. But anyway, that's beyond the
point. Yeah.
So like, she was the the plant is the metaphor for May.
She was admiring something that he cherished the plant and May.
And this is her dad giving his blessing and asking I to take
care of his daughter. Yes, and like now that I think
about it, maybe plants were like his way of redeeming himself
with raising may cause like maybe maybe.
He. Thought that if he could, like,
raise these plants and give them a good life, then he can prove
to himself that he is a better person and he can make up for
the things that he's done in the past.
Yeah, it involves a lot of reading into that to get there.
But it is plausible because he also picks orchids, which are
notoriously difficult plants to take care of.
Like, they're absolutely the worst.
My wife takes care of her kids. They're babies, like, worse than
babies. Like, you have to give them
filtered water or they'll get viruses and, like, do all.
They're ridiculous to take care of.
So he picked a very challenging group, like plant to take care
of and then gives this to I and me, who I'm not confident or
that thing was dead in a week. Yeah, they're not equipped to
take care of an orchid because organs are temperamental.
But to your point, like, maybe, maybe no, eventually, like it
starts dying and eyes like giving it to Pang.
Yeah, that's it. Also like, to be fair, like
organs do natively grow in Thailand.
So it's also like, but still they're they're challenging
plants to take care of just in general because they're very
susceptible to like viruses and diseases and things like that,
even in Thailand. So yeah, maybe that's your read
is you're on to something with what the writers are trying to
say. But again, I needed more
conversations and words for it to be believable.
But like, maybe that's what's happening.
Yep, who knows? What I do know is this is dad
accepting the boyfriend. That's what this is, Really.
Yeah. And I and May's dad connect in
this moment. And I knows exactly where what
he is saying here. And like she says, of course, as
May's dad finally let's go of the plant, I then sincerely
thanks him. And he once again smiles weirdly
and puts his hand in his pockets because where else should he put
them? And I looks at the plan in her
hands and just smiles because it is beautiful.
And so is May, and I guess what she wants, which is family
acceptance, 'cause that's important.
Yes, it is. All right, so the next scene.
I. And May are saying goodbye to
May's parents. And May is generally smiling
now, and she tells her dad that she will take good care of his
flower. And her dad awkwardly smiles
back at her, because he is. Also.
Not used to being like this and is learning how to be a friendly
human. Yeah, he's learning how to be a
human, but May looks really happy here and like, you can
tell that this is something she's always wanted but like,
never even dreamed. Like it could be something that
she could actually have. I think she's also really
excited about the dad accepting I probably more than anything,
to be honest, because it was tumultuous to say at least what
it came to. Yeah, so I was like, this has
been enough and excuses them and they leave the house.
And after they leave, we cut to Mae's parents and her mom tells
her father that he seems happier and he also genuinely looks
happier. And he he even reaches out to
touch his wife's shoulder and bring her closer.
That is huge. Oh my God.
Physical affection from the father.
What? And a genuine smile.
I don't get it, but sure, sure. Yeah, that's all I got to.
Say this is them. Trying OK moving on.
Glad me and I are happy. We cut to May's.
House where I is keeping her promise of taking care of the
flower by spraying water on it. OK, yes, but she's not planting
it. I mean, to be fair, it's pretty
close to when they got it. Like, to be fair, the dad also
didn't plant it, so there's that.
I then opens her laptop to start writing as May enters the room
smiling at her phone and I assume that she's been texting
with her dad and just exploring that new relationship.
I wonder what kind of ridiculous shit he's sending her now.
May sits down close to I with her arms around her and asks her
what she is doing, to which she replies that she is writing her
novel. And their song starts playing in
the background as we get a voiceover where I says I'm
writing my new novel just like everyone else who is starting
their new chapter. OK.
And I have to say the song that is playing is the acoustic
version of Somewhere Only We Knows.
We know because that was the dream song.
And like it's like they're everybody's dreams come true.
And that's the song that plays throughout the whole montage
when we're about to catch up with everybody in the future.
So I thought that was a appropriate song, and I like the
acoustic version because also it makes it easier to facilitate
the voice over. And it's just nice, the
acoustic. Yes, it's a very beautiful song.
It is. OK.
So we cut to this montage of scenes showing the characters
starting their new chapter. And May is with Ben, helping him
talk about the rights of people with disabilities.
Now, why Ben couldn't have said this himself instead of May
saying it for him, I don't know. I think what this is is it's
because if you look at who the other people are, I think
there's supposed to be other lawyers.
So I think this is May's lawyer, the lawyer association that she
was involved with when she was disabled.
And now she's like, OK, well, I'm no longer a good
representative of this group. How about he's the poster child
to help us advocate because he's living is the rest of his life
with a disability. And I think this is her
introducing Ben into this organization because I think
this is the lawyers group. Yeah, that's fair.
OK, so the next scene is Ploy. No, sorry, I is playing nice and
tries to get along with the terrace will twosome by giving
them a copy of her book and Ploy and Ploy is there too, but she
probably already had a copy and like they're already on good
terms. Yeah, I agree.
She's still dating Tom as far as we know.
Personally, I think that this new chapter could be left
unread. Yeah, same with me as Dad.
I feel like I got these chapters.
Yeah, the terrible twosome don't deserve to be friends with.
Why did they get her redemption at the end out of nowhere?
Also, especially now that I as an author and like they can use
that to their advantage. Also, like why does may care?
Like why does may try to be friends?
I guess the connection, she's like I we got to play nice with
these motherfuckers because they're influential still, I
guess. I guess that's like she's more
influential than any of them. No, but still, like connections.
How? Yeah, it's how you have
influence. If you burn bridges, you lose
influence. Nobody knows that.
I know. So it's terrible to some, like
especially the way that they say, like one of them says wow,
you've become a serious writer. Right.
Because they didn't change enough.
No, so terrible. Yeah.
I think this is May bragging about I more than anything, but
whatever. Yeah, that's fair to those to
May because, like, that's fair for her to brag.
All right. Next scene is Jan and Pang are
celebrating a three-year anniversary.
I need to ask you, Theora, what of what of the plant shop Jan's
business? No, this is the third year
anniversary of this event where they have the job U hauling.
So this is so the last time we saw this was the first time they
did the buy a plant get your fortune read situation.
They've been doing this. This is the third year now that
they're doing this. So Congrats to Jan and paying
for making it through at least three years as a couple.
So it's the anniversary of this event.
Got it. Great job.
Guys. And Jan made it onto the poster.
It's a picture of Jan and some tarot cards.
There's no plants on there. That's how proud of her
girlfriend. That's why it says free fortune
reading plus auspicious tree. But also, like, you would have
to come here. Yeah.
That. That was the event.
You would have to be at the plant shop to see the signs.
Would also make sense that you're mostly seeing the fortune
reading and the fortune teller. But Jan and Pang are still
happily together and I assume living at Jan's I assume and
Pang still looks like the one who fell the hardest in the
relationship. Absolutely.
Still fair. And the voice over.
Then we get to a scene. Yes, the voice over continues.
I learned that every time one story ends, the next begins and
it's more fun, better and happier.
OK, and then this. What is the scene?
Then we check in with Officer. Hottie who is reading an.
E-mail where the person says that they have reflected on
their wrongdoing and deeply regret their actions.
The person then offers their quote.
Sincere apologies to her and I. Still want to know what the
hell? Happened.
Seriously what the fuck was this?
Like you just randomly give that to us?
There was no lead up. I mean there was 1 slight lead
up to it but not really. No, no.
OK, we could have ditched the dad redemption arc and actually
explained this, but we made the choices that we made.
And that's the last we see of Officer Heidi is her crying,
reading an e-mail that makes no sense to us, where she underwent
A wrongdoing off screen that nobody knew about.
We need a. Spin.
Off to actually. Explain what the hell happened.
Yep, so she just got plutoed by the people that created Pluto
the series. That was ridiculous.
The terrible twosome. Get more time in this montage I
do. Oh my God, because we go back to
the boys. Restaurant now so stupid and
yeah, so I will go with Officer Hottie.
In my mind, I should have been the montage.
All right, so we're at Floyd's restaurant again, and I and May
are being teased for being so cute together, which is valid,
but and like Tan is now here and unfortunately, the terrible
twosome are as well. So ignoring them, the I and May
are the happiest they have ever looked, especially I, whose
smile literally can't be contained.
Like their joy is radiating throughout the entire room.
That's very cute. Oh God.
And then our little montage ends with I finishing printing out
her new novel titled You Are My Caron.
Hold on before you get into that.
So I has just finished a new novel.
So what is the reward that I gets from May for this new
novel? Feel like it's marriage.
That's why she had to finish it today.
That that was the urgency. I feel like the reward was we
get to get married when you finish writing this.
That's that's my take. But the fact that they planned
it before she even finished, well, that's the deadline.
She is impatient. So yeah, the deadline that
attracts and like referring to the title, we're going to go
over a little bit of what Caron and when I explains it to May in
the next scene. So look forward to that.
All right, so. Meanwhile.
Then interrupts I printing her novel and she tells her that May
is waiting for her and umm said she needs to hurry.
So yes, you're I think you're I think I'm right.
Thing is plausible like this was her deadline.
And. She's late now to her wedding
girl. OK.
And then we are going to transition into a scene I think
that I may or may not have brought up in the very first
episode. So Pluto loves the parallels,
and we're about to get a scene that parallels the first time I
and May met as adults. OK.
And I'm going to go through this scene by scene, so.
OK so the scene I'm talking about is when is when I went to
go see May to cosplay as UMM to break up with May.
OK And the maid lets her inside and goes and tells May UMM is
being weird. And then UMM, air quotes starts
wandering around the mansion and then I as UMM, ends up at this
like side table where there's a candle and she leans in and
smells the candle. And then eventually she's going
to see May for the first time. If we go back to where we're at
now, we're getting going to get the exact same scene beat by
beat, but it's May smelling the candle.
I is the one who's revealed to her.
But I'm going to break down how they're similar and different.
And so first, let's start with the wardrobe.
So obviously this scene in episode 12 is the wedding scene.
Or like they're at least going to do their wedding photo shoot
or something. It's really unclear.
I think this is the wedding, but like, I'm just going to call it
the wedding. If it's wrong, it's wrong
Anyway, so this is the wedding. OK, so May is obviously wearing
a white dress because it's a wedding.
But if you go back to the first meeting between I and May as
adults, I was also wearing white or like a cream color.
Granted, it was Zoom's wardrobe, but still.
So they're both wearing similar colors and similar scenes.
And if you go back and watch them like back-to-back and
listen to the background music, it's like very, very similar
background music. It's like this like soothing
humming melody that I think is supposed to heighten senses or
signal a heightening of senses because there's like a sensory
thing going on with smelling the candle, right?
And if you were to also look at the way the two scenes are lit,
they're both very golden looking.
OK, Because gonna be gonna be golden.
Gonna be gonna be. But yeah, it's very hopeful type
of lighting, right? Very warm, loving, which makes
sense for both of the scenes, right?
The the wedding, obviously, it's like a new beginning because
we're going to start our next chapter of our lives as married
people. And then the other scene at the
beginning was also a new beginning because I and May are
being reunited as adults where they can actually end.
May knows I is I and they can like start a new chapter also.
So very similar. OK, so then let's get into the
sequence of events because they're very, very similar.
So this was clearly pre planned by the Pluto team.
So in the wedding scene, we have May, who then leans in to smell
a candle. OK.
And then if you go to the first meeting, I leans in to smell the
candle. And the framing of them as
they're doing this is exactly the same.
OK, because the actors on the left side of the frame candle is
on the right side of the frame exactly the same.
Then when they go to smell in the candle, we then transition
to a tight shot of noses and lips.
OK, Key the little bit of difference here is when it's I
UN in the first episode, it's mostly like it's much much of A
closer shot where you just have like her nostrils and her lips
are in of the frame. But then if you cut to May, you
get more of her face. But it's a similar thing.
It's a very close up shot when they're inhaling the scent from
the candle, because remember, May has scented candles.
And I think that the point of doing that is to show that each
character was very fixated on the scent from the candle and
like the rest of the world faded away.
Hence, like the sensory music that's going on in the
background, like that person is just fixated on how the candle
smells, how it makes them feel, OK, and they close their eyes.
OK. So then when we transition out
of that tight shot, we then get a little bit of a wider ish shot
where that the person inhaling the candle scent is like in the
middle of the frame and their eyes are closed, OK?
And while they're doing that, somebody approaches from the
background. OK.
And then in both scenes, as the other person approaches from the
background, whoever that person is says their name.
And that's when the person smelling the candle opens their
eyes. And there's this clashing noise
that happens in both instances. Now, one of the key differences
is in the wedding, AI says May, when she approaches May, who's
smelling the candle? But in the first meeting, May
says, oh, so in the first meeting, when AI opens her eyes,
it almost reads like she's getting into character as umm,
and like she's leaving reality and entering this fantasy where
she is cosplaying her twin and about to break up with the side
piece because that's why she's here.
Whereas when Mae opens her eyes, it's almost like she's exiting
the fantasy of her mind where she was fixated on the scent of
the candle, and now she's going back into the reality of her
life, which is marrying her true love.
And then in both instances, the instrumental from your story
starts playing, and then the person that was smelling the
candle then turns 180° to spot the person that says their name.
But there's a key difference here, too.
When Mae does it, she spins 180° to the left.
And then when I does it, she spins to the right.
And that's where the comparison ends.
OK so in the first meeting I then spots Mae on the staircase
and we get the glorious sequence where she descends.
They orbit then collide. In this scene Mae is elevated
height wise compared to I because there was a power
imbalance going on between the two of them.
They were not on the same page cause deception.
Whereas when we get to the wedding, when Mae turns the look
at I, I is on the same level with May and they are now each
other's equals. They are fully themselves and
they're about to become equal partners in the marriage.
Beautiful. So great job, Pluto.
They did an amazing job of setting up these two scenes,
choreographing them, shooting them to really, really harp on
the like bookend of their journey with this amazing
sequence. So thank you everybody involved
with us. I really loved it.
I really was well done. So was your description.
I'm just saying. All right, so with that said,
let's continue with the scene. So May tells I that her bride is
beautiful and I disagrees, saying that no, her bride is the
most beautiful and they both smile and May is a little
bashful from calling from I calling her beautiful.
They're cute, they're being cute.
They're they're being very cute finally, and May walks towards
eye and eye reaches for her hand and like this setting is very
fairy tale esque and like a perfect representation of them.
Like you got the fairy like the little lights hanging.
There's like this free branch thing, just greenery.
It's really cute. It's just, it's beautiful.
And it. Just kind of reminds me of like
their fairy tale sequins when they were like in the forest
area. Yeah, no, I was going to say
this a little bit later when we get a different wide shot, but I
just yeah, I agree. This scene is so, so beautiful
because to your point, you have the the hanging lights in and
then also you have candles in the foreground and like, it's so
romantic the way this was done. And I also wanted to talk very
quickly about their wardrobe because like their dresses are
really perfect for the characters.
Like I especially on I because I doesn't wear dresses normally.
So I really think they captured a good style of wedding dress
that fits I in the character and the piece that I love the most
is that little like swooping thin scarf Cape thing that I has
going on. I think it fits her style and
her personality extremely well. So again, kudos to wardrobe.
I think the dresses fit the personalities of the characters
really, really well, Especially I who doesn't wear dresses like
I think she had to wear a dress. This one it's it's has her
personality in it. So it was great.
Like it's, it's like they did a great job setting up this
wedding sequence that feels real for these characters.
And it's hell of romantic. It really is.
Speaking of romantic, Mae tells AI that she has such a sweet
tongue. And like, that's what happens
when you marry a writer. First of all, like and like but
I love eyes response though. Because.
It's such a cheeky thing for her to say and she tells me, of
course you've tasted it before. Oh my God, which like, I don't
know if this is a translation thing to be like, oh, you've
heard me sweet talking before, but the literal translation of
it in English just sounds like a sex joke and it makes it really
funny if that is the intention for I to make a sex joke at
their wedding, which is really fucking funny actually.
I love it. It's so funny.
All right so May chuckles and tells I that she is so full of
herself and calls her Miss Famous Writer and at parallels
when she says that to her after they reunite.
And but like I tells Mae that she isn't a writer right now and
is just her eye. And I love that she does this
because she is leaving that persona that everyone else knows
and truly being the person that May fell in love with right now.
Yes, I agree with that. And also if you were to compare
it to episode 1, 'cause there's still a few more parallels to
that first meeting scene in episode 1.
In that scene, I was cosplaying. She didn't come there as I own,
but I showed up to the wedding as herself.
So I appreciate that. Like I is also conscious in this
moment that it's this moment is for them, for I and Mei without
any outside influences. So there's also that read to it.
That's true. Good point.
So I then tells Mae that she finished her novel You're My
Caron. And Mae asked her what it means.
And this makes I smile and look at their hands holding each
other. And I tells Mae that Pluto
always has Caron by its side. And it's the moon that stays
with Pluto forever, regardless of whether Pluto is in the solar
system or not. Oh my gosh.
OK, the line whether Pluto is in the solar system or not gets me
because that means I knows that may will always be by her side
whether she is like seen by other people or not.
Because like she started and felt like an outsider looking
into like the relationships going on around her and like
situations. She felt like she was never good
enough. And like now even when she may
start feeling like that, she knows she will always have may
by her side, which will help her get through anything.
And I continues to say that it means that we don't have to be
special to everyone. We just need to find our own
Caron while and like while saying this, I caresses Mae's
hair to reinforce the fact that she has found her Karen.
Yes, all right, because I is Pluto in a scenario.
All right, so some more Karen. I I'm not so it can be
pronounced Karen or Sharon, Sharon, Sharon, but it's more
common to know Karen and that's how they pronounce it in this
show. Here's some more.
Knowledge about that that no one asked for.
So Karen is a satellite of Pluto, can be called a moon and
is locked in its orbit. It's the largest moon of planet
and it was discovered in 1978 by James West Christie and Robert S
Harrington of the United States Naval Observatory.
It is a very large relative to Pluto and it's roughly half its
diameter, causing them to act as a double dwarf planet system.
So like what I said, they're always locked together, they're
always in orbit, they're always facing each other, so they're
always on the same page. So that's literally is what's
going on right now. They are getting married and
they are the Karen and Pluto are married in real life.
Moons be like that. Moons be like that.
All right. Are you talking about like the
names though, like Pluto and Karen?
So they're technically they're like, they're like Greek slash
Roman mythology. Yeah, I have that little later.
Yeah, not like the. Yeah.
And like who they were in the mythology.
Yeah, a little bit. In a little bit.
So, Yeah. Good.
All right, so then I and May are basically just a puddle of
smiling, loving messes. I mean like, well, not messes,
but like it's. Tooth rottingly sweet.
And their wedding, as they should be.
Yeah, this, this shot right here.
This is the romantic one with the the candles.
Yeah, that's beautiful. All right, so.
I puts her hand on May's neck and goes in to kiss her.
OK, so I have to talk about this because this is the last
comparison to the first episode in their first meeting.
So at the wedding, to your to your point, I initiates the kiss
hand on the back of May's neck. And after they're done kissing
here, it then ends with forehead touching, OK, and more kissing
where if you go to the first kiss, OK, May is the one that
initiates the kiss, but this kiss starts with forehead
dutching. Then we get to a kiss and it's
Mae is the one leading the interaction with her hand on the
back of AI's head. So again, it's like this reverse
parallel situation that's happening between the two
meetings, which I really love. And then like this kiss gets
really thirsty but but by both parties, whereas in the first
one we got the gay thoughts from.
But like, also in the wedding, I starts with her gay poetic
thoughts. Because some things don't change
and I love. That.
She's got a journal about that later.
We all know it. Yes, I like during this kiss we
get more voice over and the voice over says AS2.
Galaxies intertwined. I'd be Karen right by your side.
I stare across water rippling at your door, whispering through
vast space of forevermore. First of all, Writer Eye came
out. I feel like that was probably a
line from the latest novel. Yeah, because I was way too
polished and like the way that she says all this makes me think
of the other representation of Karen, which is a psychopomp God
in Greek mythology who is the fairy man of the Greek
underworld. He carries the souls of those
who have been given funeral rites across the rivers.
A Koran, Aish Karen. It's usually River Styx and
Styx, which separate the worlds of the living and the dead.
Styx is also one of Pluto's moons names.
It was named after these, obviously, because who's Pluto?
Yeah. So.
Something else that I found that really cool while digging into
this is that in Greek mythology, Pluto is the ruler of the
underworld. It's Yeah, it's actually, I
realized that after Haiti, it's the same.
It's basically the Romans stole the mythology from the Greeks
and yeah, put a twist on it. But in Greek mythology, it's.
Hades is the God of the underworld in Greek myth.
In Roman mythology, Hades is renamed Pluto.
Yes, but Chiron stays the same. Wikipedia was wrong.
I had to. Look into it more than just
going to Wikipedia for Yeah, but the Chiron, the the Ferryman is
the same, weirdly, yeah and Greek and Roman, they didn't
care enough to rebrand him. River Styx also stays the same.
So like, yeah, they they renamed the gods, but apparently Pluto
represents like a more positive concept of the God who presides
over the afterlife because like Pluto is about like the wealth
of it and like, I don't know, like this is my very quick sure
yeah, yeah. And like, yeah, like they said
something about like, Hades became like, the word for the
underworld itself. Yes, because human beings fear
death is what it is. And then, yes, over time because
Greek Roman mythology eventually gets taken over and colonized by
Christianity. And then that uses the concept
of dying to scare people into following the religion.
But really, at its core, Hades, Pluto plays an important role.
Like death is a part of the circle of life.
It's just we're conscious of it and afraid of it as human
beings. But like, it is a it is.
It is part of nature. And so like Hades is not and
Pluto is not evil, it Hades and Pluto as figures of mythology
play an important role in cycling of the death cycles,
which is part of life. So like they're not evil gods,
they're just this God is his dominion is the underworld.
Fun fact though, if you want a amazing Greek retelling of Hades
and Persephone myth, which is the wife of Hades, there's a
sapphic version of that called the Dark Wife, which some
awesome people on our Discord recommended.
It's one of my favorite books ever.
It's just so in my mind, Haiti slash Pluto is a really hot
woman. So if you want that, go read
that book. It's excellent.
It is so, so, so, so, so good. But yeah, there the, the myth of
mythology around in Hades is and Pluto is really interesting.
But yeah, that's. So if you notice that the, the
planets in our solar system are named after the Roman gods.
Jupiter is the king of the God. Mars is the God of War, like so
yeah, it makes sense that they're naming satellites and
moons after things that have to do with the God.
Yeah, actually Karen was named like so the person with Christie
has their last name named Karen because their wife's name was
Charlene. So that's why he pronounces it.
Sharon leave it to white people, it's a fuck up everything.
So it's like more American, well, United States to say
Sharon. And they actually, I think
whoever like names it like they suggested.
I think Persephone, but yeah, because that's the wife of
Haiti. Yeah, so, but he's like, no.
I want to name it after my wife. I'm going to name it as Karen.
So what happened was that scientists, while trying to kind
of low key insert his life into this methodology, actually made
it gay because he was like no, no, no.
The everlasting satellite that's always with Pluto is his
ferryman. So is he saying that like Pluto
and Chiron were lovers? Is that what this?
Because that's my read now. He just made the planets even
gayer, which I'm for that honestly.
Like I'm saying there's a sapphic retelling of this.
That's my Canon now. But like, I'm also here for gay
planets. Just saying.
I'm just saying there's a lot to love about Pluto.
The planet. There is.
It's in a gay relationship with this moon, so I'm here for that.
Pluto has like Pluto's already my favorite planet.
Well, maybe Pluto, but I love Pluto.
Pluto has become even more loved by me now though.
I'm just saying. I love Neptune because of Sailor
Neptune in the Sailor Scouts who was also gay.
I like Saturn and just because I had to do a whole project on it
in school. So that's the one I know the.
Best. There you go.
What's your favorite planet? Leave it in the gum.
And why? Yes, I I'm curious very why?
OK, so back to this episode. We then cut to wedding photo
time, where we first see I hold out her hand from May and it's a
great shot to showcase Maze ring.
Yeah. Which makes me think that's why
the wedding actually did happen 'cause they are wearing their
wedding rings. Yeah, 'cause it's not explicitly
explained. So that was that was where I got
like that was the wedding, 'cause they weren't wearing the
rings in the last scene. Now they're wearing them.
So they actually got married somewhere in between these two
scenes. Yeah.
I didn't even. Yeah.
Of course I didn't notice. That's why they have that shot,
I think, to be like, look, they're both wearing wedding
rings. Yeah.
All right. So they both look beautifully
elegant and like the photographer instructs them.
Oh, wait, sorry, while we're here.
So in the wide shot where they're taking photos, we see
that they're taking photos and then Nima and Umar off to the
side. And my question is, where the
hell are Maze parents? No, I can bring that up.
I. Where are they?
I know. Because you get the wide shot
and you don't see anyone else. So it could have been because,
like, we're going to close it close up on May and Umm, and
then they we stay in like closer shots, but you get the very
explicit wide chat that says nobody else is there.
Yeah, I had to bring that up then.
Yeah. Like, if May has reconciled with
her parents, why aren't they also there with.
Right. You would think the best dad in
the world would move mountains to be at his only daughter's
wedding slash wedding photo. Yeah.
Like, that would have made it feel more connected.
Right. May and Umm and Mima are here
and they're dressed up as if the wedding just fucking happened,
You know what I mean? They are dressed for the wedding
or they're dressed for this photo shoot.
But like, even if this was just a photo shoot, why the fucker
May's parents not in it if they're all reconciled?
Seriously. I feel like they wormed in the
reconciliation after the fact and, like, already shot those
because it doesn't make any sense.
Yeah. Again, This is why there's not
enough receipts to make the redemption arc make any fucking
sense for May's dad. Because, like, if you wanted me
to believe that they would be at the wedding photo shoot, but
they're not. Yeah, at least Megan's mom would
be here. You know what it be it doesn't
make any sense that none of them are here.
Like none of them. No, apparently they don't care
enough because this because allegedly like this is the
family, right? This is the family if the photo
shoot with the family. So you could also argue well
like Ploy and Ton aren't here but like they're more in the
friends. They they wouldn't.
Be there. I mean, Ton's a cousin, but
like, this is, if this was immediate family, Megan's
parents would be here, but they're not.
I don't believe that fucking reconciliation actually
happened. You try to gaslight me all you
want, I don't flavor. Anyway, continue.
Sorry I had to bring that up. It's ridiculous.
All right, so Speaking of Umm and Mima.
Are off to the side fawning over the happy couple and UMM is
taking her own photos of the couple with her phone.
So cute. And like, this just shows how
far UMM has come with her acceptance of the relationship
because she is truly happy for her sister and it no longer
pains her to see her with someone that she once truly
loved. Yeah, you can see that UMM is
way happier to be at the wedding than I was.
Yeah, she actually showed up for it.
Showed up. She's smiling, She's
participating. Like I was just like in sneakers
fresh from DoorDash. She'd be like, I don't even.
I came. She was like, she came halfway
through the wedding, like. Yeah.
So like, again, who cares? And yeah, fully came here to
support I and May at the wedding.
Yeah. OK.
I. So just one way that is.
Better than I know, like she's supportive.
She's truly being a supportive. To be fair, they were on the
apps, but still, like it's another contrast to the first
episode is what I'm getting at. Not judging anybody.
Like they had different contacts, but still, it's funny
in hindsight. OK, so the couple then takes
some photos and like they're just really cute.
They're happy and loving. They got their happy ending.
Until I. Calls for MIMA and UMM to join
them I love the way this is clearly two people who've
modelled before yeah posing for photos they know exactly what to
do position themselves yeah they're.
Professionals, but UMM and Mima seem like a.
Little surprised at first, but like, they quickly get excited
and eager to join them. You know, like hustles over
there. She's like, let's give them
photos. And like, that's why 'cause
like, maybe they didn't know that they were going to be in
them. No, I think they did.
They think they're as excited. They're like, yeah, it's our
turn, 'cause they're, they're dressed for it.
It's not like they had no idea. Yeah.
OK, but. Mima and Umm join them and Mima
tells I that her dress is gorgeous, to which I replies
that she is gorgeous too and it's so.
Weird to not. Have I say something cheeky to I
know. I like.
What, You're just being sincere right now?
Marriage. Really.
Who are you? It's been 30, 3 minutes, I
already a different person. And then Owen joins.
May's side and. It could have been really
awkward if they weren't on better terms and like, didn't
work on their platonic relationship off screen, I
assume, because, like, they don't look super close, but they
have definitely gotten past things.
Yeah. I mean, it's been three years.
So like, yeah, I think you're right.
It's evidence that they may finally make me mom, first of
all, yeah, that awkward meeting. And then, Yeah, I think UMM and
May are in a better place with each other, which, Yeah, again,
to go back to, like the Kasol. I May thing there was hope from
that comparison that like, May and UMM could be friendly with
each other at some point. And, like, here it is this at
some point. Yeah.
And like, logistically, she had
to do this absolutely every. Everybody had to.
Yeah, had to be next to May in the because of filming.
And like you could argue that she could be next to Meemaw, but
for like photo composition purposes too, it had to be the
focus is I and May. They have to be in the middle.
Yeah, because why wouldn't Meemaw be next to May?
Like that makes no sense. It makes no sense.
So like out of the two of them? It has to be.
Yeah. Well, you know, we wouldn't be
in this situation if May's parents were in the fucking
photo. True, they can stand through.
But we're here, aren't we? Because that reconciliation
never happened. We were all gas lit, I'm
convinced. Mm, hmm.
All right. So we end this series with the
four of them taking a beautiful photo together and the last shot
is of I and Maze heads together just smiling.
They are truly truly happy and finally at peace.
Yes, I do love before we get to them with their little cute
forehead touch that I and umm look at each other, which is
really cute because like again, they everybody here has come to
a place of healing with each other and like finally we're at
this new beginning where everybody is happy.
They are literally one big happy family and here we go.
We got the happy ending for everyone, Really.
Exactly. I mean, who knows what she?
Because she wasn't, actually. Smiling like how is she doing?
Yeah, that was a crime Pluto committed, which was everything
involved with Officer Hottie was some fucked up shit and a damn
three-way kiss. That was also some fucked up
shit. That was less of a quite Yeah,
there were some crimes committed there too.
But yeah, anyway, great. And with that, that wraps up
Pluto and self with our final part of Pluto the series.
What got your big gay energy award?
I have to OK. Well, first.
Them getting married, but I staring at me while she was
making noodles. Yeah, that was that was pretty.
Some pretty thirsty stuff. My big gay energy award goes to
the way I kisses Mae at the wedding.
First of all, 'cause it was thirsty as fuck.
And then her cheeky line about Mae tasting her tongue like that
was girl. But also because you brought it
up, the way Mae caresses her eyes, biceps, Yes.
Also very gay. Yeah, All right, So what is your
final Taylor Swift song for Pluto the series?
Unless I got 2 for. This one, OK, go for it.
All right? The first one is today was a
fairy tale because the wedding was a fairy tale.
It really was. And the second one is the fate
of Ophelia. Interesting because Umm was
saved by Islo. So some of the lyrics are I
heard you calling on the megaphone.
You want to see me all alone? So like this is what umm thought
like she wanted her to be alone. Like as legend has it, you are
quite the pyro because, you know, arson.
Yeah. You like the match to watch it
blow? Yeah, that's.
I and if you'd never. Come for me.
I might have drowned in the melancholy or the river.
Yeah, yes, quite literally. I swore my loyalty to me, myself
and I right before you lit up my sky.
Before you lit my sky up, all that time I sat alone in my
tower, you were just honing your powers.
Now I can. See it all.
So like, she was alone this whole time.
She thought she was. She thought I was like, the
enemy, basically, but really, I was taking care of her by doing
all that work and, like, in the background.
And then this is about the river.
Late one night, you dug me out of my grave and saved my heart
from the fate of Ophelia. Keep it 100 on the land, the sea
or the river, the sky. And then, like, don't care where
the hell you've been because now you're mine.
Like, I don't care what happened, but you finally chose
me. So that's.
And like, now she's gotten to a better place because of it.
Yeah. That's good.
Again, all the songs are about
boom so. Like.
Make that argument for this last piece of the episode.
I think the best Taylor Show song for it is Watch it begin
again. Because on a Wednesday in a
cafe, I watched it begin again because after all the separation
all the time, the year gap, the three years later, it's like
watching I and May fall in love with each other all over again.
So I think that that encapsulates the second-half of
the episode really well. All right.
And now for the final challenge. Besides guessing how much the
notes are, how long, how many pages they are and how many
people were waiting in line, how many people signing, what's your
favorite planet and why? I do have another question.
OK, so say May's dad is trying to make up for all the time he
was awful to her, according to GMMTV, what would he try to do?
Like would he do something that fathers do with children and
just be like not realize that she's a grown up?
Would he like write a letter apologizing, take her on a daddy
daughter date? What's going on?
Like, what is he doing to try and make up for her childhood?
Yeah, in the in the three-year gap, like when they're like
three years later, what was he doing to win May over?
Or did he not because I say nothing.
That's my vote. My vote is nothing.
He didn't do jacked it this way. It wasn't at the wedding.
It didn't stick. But anyway, you're entitled to
your own opinions and like, yeah, let us know.
All right. And with that, that has been our
scene by scene breakdown of Pluto the series.
We hope you've enjoyed this deep dive format.
I know I personally enjoy doing this.
This is how I like to engage with media and really gain more
appreciation for the story itself, the people that put it
all together, you know, the actors, the crew, producers,
everybody that took this novel, even Ciao, who like, we're here
because of her. So I hope you did too.
I hope you learned something. Hope it gives you a new
appreciation for the little things.
Yeah, new appreciation. And thank you to everybody that
gave us your takes on stuff. We do appreciate that you were
adding to the conversation of Pluto and why it's it's such a
good series and it really does stand the test of time in terms
of like being a very quality television show because there's
a lot to dive into that's, you know, worth talking about and
worth analyzing. And particularly the way this
was shot it, it just, there's so many elements of this that made
this a very quality television show.
Like there was some ridiculous shit going on, but like there's
ridiculous shit going on in real life too.
So like, you know, and we take it when you put it all together,
Pluto was a very fun show. So thank you to our Patreon
members that voted for this as our next as our deep dive.
We're sorry you're not voting on the next one 'cause we picked
it. Yeah, I made that.
You'll get because Claire Bell's a master class.
You have to talk about that one. You have to like I can't wait to
see what things we discover by doing this deep dive.
I'm really excited about my media and like what they're
gonna do next because this is just an early plug for
Clarabelle to get you interested if you're not already.
But like they. We've watched a.
Few of their like behind the scenes documentary for
Clarabelle and like it's very clear how much the creators they
cared. Not that people don't care, but
like they looked at it from like this very empathetic, holistic
perspective and they were very artistic about literally every
element of the show. And that's what makes it unique
in our opinion. Like every element was very
artistic and that doesn't always happen in a television show.
In film, sure, because like you usually get more money and time
dedicated to that, but like, wow, there were so many things
on the show that were very unique to to TV.
And so we're very excited to to get into it more.
So hopefully you'll join us. If you plan on joining us, let
us know encouragement. But I will warn you that it's
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because our filming schedule is crazy.
We have like vacations planned because life and so we're not
going to be able to start filming this for a little bit.
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