Today we tackle the one thing that can truly strike them into
the heart of anyone Florida obsessed Disney planner leaving
the bubble and heading out West. While all what we all love our
second home in Orlando. There's just something about
stepping out of Waltz original park that can feel landing on an
entirely different plan. So tonight we're helping you
make the osbat leap from Disney World to Disneyland.
But breakdown the major shocks, the must do's the whether the
West Coast might actually do a few things better than Orlando.
So if you're watching live, get ready to drop your thoughts in
the chat. Have you ever made the coast to
coast track? Or you should be a Florida
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Yeah. Well, welcome, everybody.
I'm looking forward to tonight's show.
I love talking about Disneyland. We've only done one trip
ourselves there and after every time I talk about it, we always
think about booking the next one.
So let's go in the chat is have you been to Disneyland before or
do you just do you prefer all Disney World or have you not yet
made made the trek across to the West Coast?
Or are you crazy like me and fancy doing 2 in one trip do.
You know what? I'd be tempted, yeah.
That appeals to me. I've got.
I've got to say that that's that would really appeal to me.
I don't it's for logistics and I think it's like you get you get
the best of both worlds. You do, you do.
Sorry, as I haven't introduced anyone in the show, I want to
let's let's just do a quick, quick name check.
So first up, we've got Becca. Hello.
How are you doing this? I'm.
Good. We have some good news today
that we are only 99 days away from our holiday, so not not
long so. And the weather's getting
better, So what more could we want?
It's going to feel like Florida this weekend, right?
I have two degrees this weekend. I'm not sure what's happening.
I can't wait by. Holiday that never happens.
It'd be a steady 15 up here, that's for sure.
I can feel it now. Yeah, well, I've still got the
heat now. That's it.
It's the, it's the north-south divide, isn't it?
Definitely, definitely it way down South and John's got the
seat on. Hi, John, How are you doing?
I'm good. I'm actually mightily jealous of
the Kirsty in the chat because I didn't realise that if she goes
on Sunday and that has come round mightily quickly so I've
just texted her and say good grief that is.
Yeah, apart from the fact Claire's out there as well right
now making us all mightily jealous with the pictures
sending us in. There will no doubt be on our
socials with the picture of of our getting a rather mighty
score on the the new buzz like you.
Twice as well. Twice.
She swears it, they didn't. She swears it didn't stop.
So that isn't why she looks like high school.
I'm not sure I believe her though.
And she actually actually, and she actually had a great picture
with Grayson as well, which is always nice because like, I
think like we always say, if you're, if you're out there and
you see some of these cast members, go and have a chat with
them because actually they absolutely love just sharing the
magic with you. And, you know, don't be, don't
be British about it. Don't, don't sort of shy away.
Go and go and have a chat because they love, they Love
Actually just knowing and, and, and even even tell them that we
sent you because yeah, yeah, it does.
It does. It does make a difference.
Yeah. And dropping in Simon, how are
you doing? And not too bad.
Yeah, it's, it's been been an interesting week.
I had my friend from Florida, I was chatting to him over the
weekend. He was coming to England on a
standby flight. And on Sunday he was like, yeah,
OK, I'll come and stay, I'll be there in the morning.
So queue a quick tidy up of the house.
His arrival. Has a bit of a role reversal
though, isn't it? I know it's quite nice because
yeah, he was. They, him and his partner always
visit us but they never stay here because they have family
here. But I've been to stay with them
a couple of times at their house, so it was quite nice to
return the favour. That's good.
So I was gonna say, Robin, do you have a countdown to your
next trip? I do.
Do you know what should we find out what my countdown is?
It's not as low as yours. Let's have a look see what my
countdown. Is John's is even lower.
John. I'm guessing John's is in the
70s. It is.
And actually I've not started a countdown and it's actually it,
it is really telling because actually I've got a lot of a
trip report from last year to finish off before we countdown.
I was going to say, I've only just started to read the day
that we turned off. Yeah, but I was sat, I was sat
last night and I'm like, Oh my word.
So actually I've written 3 three days worth of trip report last
night. Oh, that's.
Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I've now got to find the photos.
And the problem is, is like the first day of those three, I've
got over 300 photos to sift through because we're in Animal
Kingdom and we just decided let's go and explore Animal
Kingdom because the queues were big.
And so, yeah, taking loads and loads of pictures.
And so you suddenly sat down and I'm like, where?
Where do you actually begin with this?
So yeah, I'm determined. By the time we go to bed
tonight, I will have done that day and then finally do.
Then we'll put the next one up and I'll feel as if I'm getting
through a bit. And then Kirsty will also send
me a message to say get your finger out, sunshine.
He does that. He does that quiet a bit.
So yeah. Although I think she's behind on
reading, so yeah, you yeah. Reply on that and then we'll
we'll go from there at. Least John, you've got a
deadline, you know you'll you'll get it sorted before would be.
Well I've always said that I would say I always finish it
before the next one. But the problem is I've got a
pre trip report to write and then for this one we're going
just as a couple. Begin with and to end with.
And then in the middle, the kids are coming and Josh's
girlfriends come in. So I've got to ask her if she
might have been part of the trip report.
Because, you know, you can't think of these things with GDPR,
haven't you? Yeah.
And actually, the kids are now being of an agent.
They maybe they don't want their photos on them all over the end.
Maybe they want to write their own, yeah?
That would say, look, that would say themselves, wouldn't it?
Now, now, there we go. That could be the way ahead and
get out just to write it. Yeah.
Their project management. It's all about delegation.
Wishing it on to someone else. We could be up to something that
would work at three. That would save me months worth
of yeah. Just feed your feed your photos
into ChatGPT and tell it to just generate generate.
Your I can't do. That I it uses it, yeah.
I've just had a text message off Kirsty as well.
Yes, get your finger out. Yeah.
Do you know what before we move on, I think it's some of us do
the news because there's a lot of news to talk about.
Yeah, can't they just? So first up, there is a new
president named for the Walt Disney World.
As we mentioned last week, Raul announced his retirement lasted
36 years with the company, So taking over the helm as the new
president. Walt Disney World is Joe Schott,
40 years old, 40 year Disney veteran.
He famously started his career as a Jungle Cruise skipper.
I love the someone who's been in the company for 40 years.
It's finally is is. There's nothing really suited
for that role, is there? No, it's Disney.
Longer than the previous guy who was retiring, Yeah.
Yeah. It's going to be someone who
really loves the company that's worked there that long, isn't
it? Someone's going to want who
knows what it's like to be a guest as well.
I know what what I think he'll do the.
Best for us. And I think part of the
reshuckle where there was because a lot of the changes
that that have been made by moving into a different role.
I think also from Disneyland Paris, the president of
Disneyland Paris is moving across to focus on signature
experiences. So sort of Disney Cruise Line
and, and the vice president in Disneyland Paris is now moving
into a president role. So it's it's, it's quite a few
things to shift around, but there seems to be those three
have a huge amount of experience when you think there also.
Seems to be though Ben, some form of progression here because
actually with Joe Sharp, he's he's come from the Disney
signature experience role, but he's also previously and and
this is where this is where you look at some somebody's CV.
Yeah, he started as a Jungle Cruise skipper, but he's also
worked in Japan for Walt Disney attractions.
He's been CEO of Disneyland Paris, he's worked at Shanghai
Disney and then and then he's actually worked, you know,
overseeing the launch of two ships with the Disney signature
thing. I actually think the company's
actually in safe hands, you know, and after the show last
week, I know, I know last week I kind of jumped off on it.
Wasn't quite a RAM, but it it it.
It it it's a RAM, it's a small RAM.
Because actually you couldn't actually understand why the
actual, the actual leader of the company, you know, the president
of, of Walt Disney World Resort with jump ship without, without
there being some form of succession planning.
And yeah, I, I actually, you know, I'm not going to name
names, but actually I received a message last week and it
basically just just reaffirming that what we said last week was
totally on track. And, and, and I was quite
pleased with that because normally if I ever run, it can
go way, way off, way, way off tilt.
And I might have. To.
But I was quite pleased with the fact, yeah, it's just like, be
assured what's coming, your company is actually going to be
in a bad place. And, and I actually felt this
appointment and, and coming so quickly, you know, and I think
that, you know, big organization when when it go, when it's
rudderless for a while, things kind of slip and stuff out.
This isn't, this is something that, you know, I think it, it
goes back to what I said last week in in so much of the fact
that was somebody jumped before they were actually pushed.
And I actually, I actually believe that would be the case
because Disney know exactly what they're doing.
I think just Demaro's put in place exactly who he wants to
take the part, the parts forward and, and Walt Disney World in
particular because you know, believe it or not, it needs a
bit of TLC. There's there's a lot of changes
happening and I think with so many changes that happen and in
ball DC world, like so much things that are happening and
moving all at the same time. When you actually look at what's
been opening and what's been under construction for the past
few years, there's so many things that put into place all
of these things to keep working, to keep operating, to adapt as
well. If you've been in a role for 36
years, you know how things change, but there's to a point
where what do you see going forward?
Because eventually, if you've been with the company for a long
time, yes, you get experience, but are you the right fit at
that moment for the company? And that's quite an interesting
thing that I I've seen over the past few days.
What I got from it was I've been following like the discussion
about Shanghai and the expansion with Zootopia.
That land looks amazing. It's incredible.
And when you look at what we're having in Walt Disney World with
all the expansion and yes, with cars, with villains, it's quite
interesting to see what we're going to get going forward past
that, because that's what had been announced.
What's the next set, what we're going to see in B23?
Because he's the one on stage telling us what the next few
years of Disney World and other Disney parks are going to look
like. I think spot on.
And actually again, going back on previous D20 threes, I think
I've always previously claimed that there's a lack of joined up
thinking. I think the joined up thinking
is actually. We've made too much blue sky.
Yeah. Not enough.
Actual yeah. And I think this is where
there's a big change basic coming from the top man.
And I like you know, and that's, and that's what happens, isn't
it? You get new, you get new people
into new roles and suddenly the cogs and the creative part of it
start churning again. And I'm quite excited for it.
I really am. I really do feel that, you know,
we're on, we're on an open upward trajectory at the right
time. I'm excited.
I'm excited to see what I am. Definitely.
I feel the same. Oh, rock and roller coaster
starring the Muppet. That way I just can't believe
all the previews and everything we've seen from cast member.
I've tried. I was saying I didn't avoid any.
I as soon as I saw people sharing videos there was an
embargo on on right pobs and a lot of the queues until this
morning. So TikTok and Instagram has been
flooded with that today and the amount of detail from Muppets
Vision 3D that is now in rock and roller coaster.
Apologies if I'm not going to try.
I'm going to avoid any spoilers, but if you want to go and see
it, you can go and find it. I haven't I haven't seen any.
I need to need to up my game and have a look.
I've only seen reviews. Yeah, I wasn't going to.
And then someone made me. Is it?
Someone maybe next to you. Yeah, someone made.
Me it looks and that's not not original Rapper Manifesto stream
there as well. Yeah.
Good, good. Everyone can still get their
backstage passes, it's all good. I was impressed because actually
the, the and and possibly everyone's seen this, so it's
not a spoiler alert, but the Statler and Waldorf part of it.
And very much the fact that, you know, they're still bolted to
the seats and things. I'm just like, you know, yeah.
When you just like some someone who's reimagined this gets it.
And they've actually, you know, they actually understand exactly
where the love from The Muppets 3D show was.
And they've they've they've for me, they've retained it just by
putting this out and walled off and I just.
Feel that, yeah. And that, that's the icing on
the cake. The I'm, I'm the scooter audio
animatronic is incredible because I think the way they've
done it, it's not it they they've designed the way that it
looks like it's being sort of manoeuvreized up tiered.
Yeah. So it's it doesn't, it's not
like, oh, we've just made it from this video to look like
this. They've actually used what
they've done in films to be able to use the soft really scanning
to try and get the right sort of movement.
And it's just I'm blown away with what Disney have managed to
do since this close in March till.
May it's been 3 months, been less than three months than
three months. Yes, that's not normally what we
expect from Disney. In the three months, considering
that they had over a year to reimagine, test back, what they
did with that compared to what they've done with The Muppets in
three months, it's quite amazing.
Because they've got the heart of The Muppets into and I think
that's it's the nostalgia of Muppets which left Hollywood
studios last year. They've managed to capture what
I think a lot of people went into that form yes, we had the
Muppet show on to C plus earlier this year.
So there's a lot of talk and a lot of sort of just people
excited about it. And I think the a generation
that just not everyone, everyone pretty much knows who The
Muppets are, but not everyone knows who Electric Mayhem.
So there there's different aspects different this that I
think Disney have been able to do.
But if you want to, there's a on it's on Disney parks YouTube and
on their TikTok page, there's a, a couple minute video which has
all of sort of like Easter eggs. So you put things on that pizza,
Rizzo and Numb and Melrose and all those little bits and pieces
that are in it. So if you want to go and see it,
it's a good thing to see. And what I like is that Disney
decided to do that. This is a great way that that
promoting themselves on the Imagineering side.
I would also say as well, Ben, and this is again, going back to
the way that park is. And now it, you know, Walt
Disney World is as a as a a unified and actually imaginative
output. But you look at the job that you
did in Paris to rock and roller coaster when it became part of
Avengers. And that that for me was
actually was embarrassing of how cheaply that was ripped out and
put in because it basically it. Yeah, I must say I shouldn't
have ridden it when I did because it was just post
operation. But hey, don't tell the
consultant. Don't tell the consultant.
But it it was it, it was actually, yeah, when you when
you go there and you're like, I haven't spent all the money on
the rest of The Avengers stuff. You might as well just have left
it as rock and roller coaster because actually what they've
done, it was so crass and and I hope that that's changed over
time because I've not been back to Paris since, but that was
done. That was done and cheap.
This actually looks a really, really good job And and and long
may this continue. I think this is, this is
becoming a recurring theme in the, in the past few, basically
past few weeks, really. Instead, there was sitting there
on a Wednesday complaining about rebirth and about it.
We're excited. It is exciting.
I think this is, you know, this is such a, it's such a bizarre
thing, you know, Yeah, even somewhat, you know, I'm not sure
if it's on the list, but no, it's not on the list.
But even having Claire send us messages and photographs about
the refurb of Buzz Lightyear and her description of that is the
fact that it's just like, it's way beyond what the old Buzz
like, like. Yeah, really, It's so smooth.
I think it helps though. She got got out of Kira.
Yeah, she was researching where to go.
I I went on it blind but my score not reflects.
I would. I'm pretty sure next Wednesday's
show will be taken up with with probably a lot of chat about
Galactic Hero and things. Like that I need a T-shirt and.
Yeah, yeah, she's got her name in the book today.
There'll be a set of beers or something like that, won't they?
You know? Yeah.
But the high score, right?
Because. That Claire's been up to this
week, and another preview this week, Soaring Across America,
opened at Epcot. Yeah, Claire.
Claire took one for the team and tested it out for us.
Even though she doesn't like height.
Yes, and really liked it. Yeah, she's even more
surprising. I think we were all surprised by
that one. We were not really expecting her
to love it. I'm.
Surprised Claire went on it. I was like, I know what I know.
She's not the biggest fan of going on Saurian.
I I don't know how I missed that so I in my defence when I
dragged her on Saurian I didn't know that she hated it.
So if you haven't seen it already, she posted in the
whoppers arms and I posted a photo of me and her on it where
she wasn't looking too pleased with her life choices.
I was so shocked. I was like, do you not like this
ride? She was like no, I'm terrified
of heights. So I said why are we writing it
then? She's like because you wanted
to? I was like, oh whoops, sorry.
She actually, she actually, yeah, we actually dragged her
on. At the last year.
On the year before. Yeah, but.
And the only stipulation was that we weren't from Rogue.
Yeah, first to be further back, because it actually just helps
her just knowing that there's other people, there's other
people. I have no idea.
I'm. The same to be fair front row.
Yeah, excellent. That was all right.
That was fine. I'm I'm I mean just to see how
long that one will lasts at Epcot as it needs or there's
from June 50th birthday celebration of America.
I'm really hoping it's still going to be out one week or next
year. Yeah, let's face facts, right?
We've now got three separate films.
Have three separate. Screens.
Can we not have three separate screens and then let the crowd
decide? You know, it might well be.
Randomized though. Yeah.
Have they not started? I'm not sure which one you're
going to get. Yeah, that's difficult because
you can't tie up the smells and the, and the, the movements, the
ride. But, but because you've got
three separate screens, you should be able to do it as three
separate rides. So you actually get, and it
might well be that you, you're told to go to screen A and it'll
be 11. You can.
And then the next time you go, you go to screen C.
Or it's a bell of when you go on Guardians and you try and get
all six songs, it's you go on it and you're going to.
Get I I actually think that could be a really fantastic way
of of it just being a different experience.
But then you talk about rewrite ability during the course of
even just one at cop day. And then you've got, you know,
rather than people just, you know, rather than being just a
once and done, you've now got the ability to, you'd be wanting
to go back 3 * 1 year. That means that means I have to
ride it three times. Yeah, yeah, that's the whole
point. And then and what will happen is
there'll be a storm comes in so you'll be stranded in the lamp a
billion. So you'll end up having to go
and buy food food at the Sunshine Seasons and then
you'll. End up living.
With the land, yeah. It does sound like yeah.
Sounds like a great day. Then you can do behind the
scenes tall while you're there. I know, I know Charlie hasn't
joined us in the chat for for a while, but Charlie from Disney,
Disney, Disney knows hurt us. And he sent me a picture on
Twitter last night. They were on living with the
land and it, it, it must be one of them conversations that
people have because the last time we were there, we need to
take a picture of the banana tree to send to Josh because he
was, he sent me a picture of the bananas last night.
And it was just like how something so small becomes, it
becomes a thing, you know, a bit like, a bit like everyone says
that Josh pictures the Thai bus every time they're in Animal
Kingdom. It's just, it becomes a thing.
It's really bizarre. But yeah, I'm going to, I'm
going to take the mood a little bit away because actually, I
think we've had so much positivity and so many bits of
good news. I actually think this week I, I
was positively sad by that, saddened by this.
And, and the news that Tom Kane, who was a basic voice actor, but
is the voice of the monorail and the voice that you hear when you
listen to Happily Ever After. And again, it's just his voice
in itself, I think becomes his own legacy and it becomes the
most beautiful thing that I actually don't think I can
actually listen to happily ever after without probably welling
up in tears because I was quite taint about just how how many
lives has his voice actually impacted upon within the parks?
And I just thought, you know, just one of them sad losses.
And actually, you know, he's been poorly for a long time.
That's not it's not it's not a sudden death.
He actually suffered a stroke in 2020, but just one of them a
little sad, sad losses, but hopefully a voice and again,
Star Wars fans of know his voice because he was I think he voiced
Yoda and is it Boba Fett and a couple of in the animated series
and video games. It's really interesting.
I hadn't heard the same voice with the monorail spill with
Ever After. I hadn't together until this
week and then it was like, oh wow, that's going to be, I mean,
it's going to be really weird that most dual next ride on the
monorail just hearing their voice and going yeah, that's
yeah, that's that's something. No, it was sad.
I also hope that nobody sits there and think, oh, we need, we
need to re record it because actually, yeah, I think that
will be like a true legacy for, for that voice to actually live
on because, you know, I think it's, you know, irrespective of,
you know, actors, voice actors, whatever, you know, even after
you die, your film lives on. I think that would be a for me,
that would be a really fit and tribute to just to just a voice
that, you know, even now I actually have to listen to and
watch Happily Ever After the other night.
I've never found myself doing that previously, but it
resonates. And when you listen to the words
that he speaks within the the actual fireworks show, I think
it will hit different. I'll leave it at that.
But Tom Kane, rest in peace. Your voice will live forever.
And As for mentioned today about stuff that's been changing in
the parks, it was only released early today that in Hollywood
Studios, the Walt Disney Studios lot is now open.
So this is the bit where the hat is going to be.
And there's been a couple of pictures, a few pictures shared
and. This looks amazing as well then.
And I was just. I've got nothing to complain
about, I mean I'm being made redundant here.
It just looks so good. It does looks great, I'm really
pleased to see it. I can't wait to see it next
year. It's going to be amazing.
I think it actually that I actually think that the lines in
it and, and the way that they're actually even some of the sign
signage that they've got in there as well is so much like
the original Anaheim sort of Walt Disney studio.
And, and again, someone sat there and actually designed this
so it looks like it rather than just putting them big plastic
signs up and, and doing a bad cheap job.
Someone's actually, you know, maybe, maybe they can sort Epcot
out. Maybe they can go and redo all
the lighting in Epcot. Maybe.
Maybe what they'll do is they'll put a fountain back in.
It'd be nice, yes. Please, we need to have like
AB23 bingo and see what we're going to get the announcement
that we that we. Can do coming back, Yeah, yeah.
But I'm just the hat. I remember when they announced
this, I think it was even late last year or earlier this year
that I thought it was quite a small update.
It wasn't much that from originally just OK that that
that they're finally getting around to fixing what was Star
Wars launch Bay Area that had been sort of left for years and
not really. Yeah, it was built.
It was there really just to update before Galaxy's Edge
opened. And since then and obviously
COVID and just have pace for it to be characters and just it
just become emptier and quieter. And now there's finally going to
be things in there. And I just think he just, it
suits the aesthetic of Oddwood Studios more than.
I feel like it's a hark back for like the old Hollywood studios
as well, like what we know. I mean, obviously the Great
Movie Ride, I'm sure like everyone remembers, and the
backstage tour where it used to go past some of the actual
working stages. I think it's it's a nod to that
era. I really like it.
I think I'm very excited to visit next time I.
Go and the animation part of Disney as well.
Yeah, I think, yeah, I think that gets completely pushed out
the window quite a lot. And I just really feel that this
is, again, another positive addition to Walt Disney.
World. Yeah.
Goodness. And yeah, you will also find
character handprints, footprints and paw prints embedded in the
pavement in front of the animation building.
That's. Cute and then.
Also to up some I'm going to call them statues of characters
all around. So I've seen pictures of Thumper
and Thazu and a few others. Oh, I get some rare characters
as well, which I I've not looked at the detail, but I did see
that someone has made the comment and the fact that, you
know, it is so good to see whatever character it was in the
park and I'm like, OK, I'll, I'll go with that.
It seems just a very nice place. There's a lot of benches,
there's a lot of space just to it's not a green space.
It's just enough places to just sit and relax and everybody.
I know we said that about Magic Kingdom a lot over the past year
of like Tom Sawyer Island going and we're losing that space.
This just goes in the opposite directions of that.
We're actually we're gaining this space where a lot of people
would just ignore Star Wars launch Bay in that area because
it's like there was no nothing there.
It wasn't benches. There was there was no reason
for that space where I feel like now that they've been able to to
and bring something to it that I think everyone's going to enjoy.
And it reminds me a lot of California, which is tonight's
topic. Which is perfect.
They they must have known that's, that's a bit for me.
They must have known that we were going to chat about us
tonight. I, I think we, we should talk
about California. So Robin, you've recently come
back from Disneyland. How was your trip going from
Walt Disney World in the first half going to California?
It was good. It was good.
I would probably do it again. The only downside for me is, I
mean, I felt like I didn't really get enough time in
Orlando. So that that's the downside for
me. I, I sacrificed some of the
Orlando time to go to Disneyland, which I felt sad
about, but I had a great time. And it was, it was, it's funny
to me to do some of the same rides and the same shows on both
coasts and have a direct comparison.
Because sometimes when you do, like I've seen Fantasmic in
both, you kind of, you know, the key bits that are different.
But when you've watched it one night and then you see it two
nights later, or the possibly no, two nights later, you're
like, oh, I can spot all the differences.
My memory was only two nights ago that I saw it.
I can see everything that's different now.
So it was, it was, it was different been it was, it was
good being able to see the direct comparison.
And I really, yeah, I really did enjoy it.
I love Disneyland. Fantastic Which?
Which? Which?
What is the World or Disneyland? Well, there's there's a lot to.
Because there's always been a hot topic, that one, it's like
we, we, we never got a chance to do it in California when we were
there last. We so to compare pro for what
Disney World seats. OK yes they are not the most
comfortable, we will agree on that.
However, if you watch in Disneyland, you have to stand
unless you book a dining package and then you have to sit on the
floor. So I, I think usually you can
talk to someone, you can stand at the back of the seating area
if you can't sit, but it is a bit difficult if you can't.
If like you're with people who can't necessarily sit down on
the floor, you have to bear that in mind.
So you either have to stand up and get your spot with everyone
else and wait, or you go for a dining package.
And dining packages are not too bad.
Actually. There's three different levels,
some of them are pretty cheap, so it's not it's not the end of
the world. And also, if there's two
showings of Fantasmic bit like the Walt Disney World, it's
always easier to see than the second one.
Which one's my favourites? Honestly, it's got to be
Disneyland and not for for all the reasons you'd think.
I think some of Walt Disney World really does it better, but
it's so long in Walt Disney World and there's a lot of
projection onto the water and it goes on a bit too long.
And then the the villain bit I find drags a little bit, whereas
it's just a bit more snappy in Disneyland.
It's the bits are shorter. It doesn't drag.
You don't feel like, OK, yeah, I'm bored, you're losing my
interest. Which what Disneyland does
sometimes and they use the pirate ship Peter Pan and Hook
fight on the pirate ship. Sorry at the spoiler for anyone
who hasn't seen it. They literally on the pirate
ship fighting. It's that's very cool in
Disneyland. So there are cool parts to Walt
Disney World too, like the new Moana bits, the Frozen, some of
the some of the stunts are great.
But Disneyland that you're so close to it, you feel a bit more
part of the show, whereas obviously it's a bigger stadium
in what Disney World? It's a huge sort of place for
not. Has he not been into that
fantasmic arena? It's it's amazing.
There's a reason it's called an arena.
And The thing is, it is you are there for at least half an hour
before the show starts and those seats on comfortable.
They're not Let's. Be honest that they are
hemorrhoid creators. That's let's be honest, they
are. They are some of the most
uncomfortable seats I've ever sat.
However, if you've been walking like 25,000 steps and you have
to stand for an hour, you stand for an hour and then watch the
show. So you're stood stood still for
an hour and a half, or sit for an hour on some uncomfortable
seats. Yeah, but come on, with 20
minutes of sitting there before the show even starts and then
that realisation that you've probably got another at least
another half hour, you'll be you'll be quickly rushing to
want to stand up and walk again. I think it's it's really
interesting to but I think the pre show fantastic in what is
the world, just has a really interesting, really good vibe
and I love the music, the sound. We mentioned now an upcoming
podcast, which would be out on the 1st of June, but it's one of
those that sort of when you think about it, the IT just
gives you a ready for the show and I'm not sure what you get
for it. Appreciate, but Disneyland is
like there's nothing there isn't.
It just starts. And everybody, everybody starts
queuing and it's much closer to the start of the show when
everybody's starting to assemble.
Whereas you have like a bit of a longer build up when you're at
Disney World. I like to say, I think the fact
that the Amphitheatre area is just completely set for that.
Like come and buy your light up merch, come and buy your
popcorn. Popcorn.
They walk up and down selling their drinks and snacks.
It's like that is entirely set up for come, come and sit down a
bit earlier, take take the weight off your feet, get a
drink and some snacks and then wait and get engrossed in the
show. Whereas Disneyland always feel
like it's almost like you think why?
Why isn't there anybody here like 45 minutes before the show
And then as you get closer there all of a sudden it just goes and
it's full. But there's not the kind of same
preamble that you get and the the same kind of atmosphere
builder that you get at the Disney World Amphitheater.
Do you know what? I've just looked because I was
interested. The Fantasmic Amphitheatre holds
nearly 10,000 guests per show, so that will give you the scale
of that. It's seated, it's about 7000
with room for another 3 standing at the back So.
It. Is, especially if it's
highlights the. Difference between more Disney
World and Disneyland when you actually think what is well
caters, it's when you think the amount of parks that are there
versus Disneyland. It's a very different audience
as well. With Disneyland, it's very local
focused. When we went there hips so easy
to walk between things. But in comparison to or Disney
World, you don't need to worry about the parking.
How far away like Magic Kingdom parking lot and how easy it was
to walk between the two parks. So between California Adventure
and Disneyland. Mud made Disneyland Paris in
that way. Yeah, I think and actually I've
been sorry. Carry on.
As I say, one day we might have to do a comparison of Disneyland
versus Disneyland Paris. I think it's a closer.
Comparison, I totally agree. I think they are, if you've been
to one or the other, they will both the and you're visiting the
other for the first time, they'll feel familiar.
They there's, you can walk between the two parks.
They, you don't have to get some sort of transport between the
two. They're very close together and
they're similar sort of size. I feel like there's something
very familiar about Disneyland if you've been to Disneyland
Paris and vice versa. And in What Isabel, do you have
that bubble where literally we would measure the same times on
the show that a lot of people go to What Isabel?
To stay on site, to be part of the Disney bubble, to be part of
that. With Disneyland, we stayed off
site because it was a 10 to 15 minute walk to the parks.
So it didn't make sense for us to stay on site, which would
have been more expensive, where I felt like we had less of a
benefit. It just, it did, it didn't, we
couldn't work out, it didn't. The cost just didn't make sense
for us to. We would love to stay at the
Design Hotel but it just the cost per night didn't make
sense. Well, I'm getting DBC points for
either of them. If you're not other owner of
them, is challenging challenging.
It definitely is, especially for California.
Grand California. I did get 4 nights at Disneyland
hotel this year so it was after Christmas I think it was
January. I booked my flights and through
booking and wait list I got 4 consecutive nights in a studio.
So it can be done but. Yeah, it took a couple of
months, I think two months I think before the wait lists come
in. But it can be done.
But it is, yeah. It's harder than staying
somewhere than we'll just zoom out.
The bubble feel is very different though.
It's not the same. Even when you stay on site, it
doesn't feel quite the same. I suppose it does.
It's more like, again, it's more like staying on site at
Disneyland Paris. So you kind of feel there, but
without, without feeling. You're immersed in this whole
ecosystem type thing. You feel like, well, Disney
World is everything. You're miles away from the
closest McDonald's versus. But you, you are thrust, you are
thrust through commerce every day at Disneyland, if you come
from the hotels, all the hotels are basically a one end of
Downtown Disney. To get to the parks, you have to
basically trekked from one end of Downtown Disney to the other.
So you are you are in that same zone of retail every morning
leaving to go to the parks and on your way back to the hotel.
So that would just feel different because you wouldn't
walk through Disney Springs in that way every day.
You'd be a bit overwhelmed and bit sort of like if you would,
if you were doing that for two solid weeks, you'd be like, I've
sort of had enough of seeing the same shops.
But yeah, it's it's a different experience doing that Trek.
It's not, it's not quite like saying I'm going to hop on the
monorail and just take a nice leisurely loop through the
contemporary back to the grand or the Poly is just not is not
the same vibe. You can ride in the front of the
monorail there though, which you can't do in all Disney World.
That was very cool. I did do that.
I got in the front of the monorail twice.
It was very cool. We've tried to wait that front
monorail numerous times before, but you the monorail frequency
is not the same as it is in Disney World.
Either they don't have any air conditioning so if it gets hot
it stops running. So in the summer.
Hours on end? Yeah, hours on end.
Yeah, in the summer, it basically doesn't run all
afternoon. It starts off again in the
evening once it's cooled down a bit because it's too hot to run.
So that's worth noting. So the frequency test track
isn't it then? But the frequency, the frequency
means that sometimes it's like it'll be, it'll be so much
quicker for me to walk all the way through Downtown Disney
movie parks than wait for the mono air because you could be
waiting 20 minutes at least. Do you know what?
When I was there, yeah, Monorail arrived within every 5 minutes.
I got lucky. Good frequency, but in.
The past we've got a there's. A lot of times where we've
waited a while, almost to the point where if he doesn't come
in the next few minutes, we're going to walk back out and walk
because yeah, you just want to get in the pilot sometimes.
But yeah, slightly different monorail sets up, you know, it's
a different, it's AI think it's a newer monorail, but it's
smaller in size. So you have to duck when you get
in to get. Into it.
It's not. Otherwise you bang your head.
Yeah, but it's very cool. But John mentioned test track
and of course test track is California has their own kind of
same ride but different in Radiator Springs.
And I feel, I mean that without question.
It's my favorite ride in in yes. I think it's probably my
favorite ride in all of Disney. And every time I ride test
track, it's almost like not quite the same, not quite the
same. I feel like they've done such a
good job. So if you know, if you've not
been to Disneyland, but you know test track, it's a similar sort
of ride vehicle, but it's all cars themed.
So you're in a whole cars themed area of the of the theme park
and you are going along Radiator Springs.
And then you get to the end and you meet up with another car and
then you have a drag race at the end and one of you wins.
You never know which one it's going to be.
So it's that's always a bit of fun element for like, especially
for kids, like see who's going to win.
And it's just. Like you said that for kids,
it's like no, no, no, that, that.
Longitude, Simon. But it's it's, it's so much
longer and it has so much more to it.
I feel like it's. But overall as well, the look of
the whole ride from the outside. Oh yes, it's just amazing so.
Much more impressive it's. It's, it really is.
It's one of those rides that I think we we had to get the
Lightning Lane for it. Yes.
Because we wanted to ride it in the evening.
But we also did. We did opening as well.
We did opening and I think we ride a couple of tons and it was
just incredible. It was every ride that we
made-up there. I yeah, I think it is was my
favorite attraction at Disneyland.
Yeah. It's just there's just something
about bookings that area and going.
I've seen so many videos, pictures beforehand of it and
going like I like the cars film. Am I going to like this as much
as I I'm? Hoping I'm not.
I was going to say I don't. I don't like cars.
I don't even big cars. I do I I will go out there and
say I don't even enjoy cars movies.
They're not my thing. I don't enjoy them.
And I'm still saying that whole area is incredible and that ride
specifically is so much fun. And and even that's someone who
doesn't get the cars thing. So it's definitely worth it.
I mean. We discovered Luigi's as well.
Oh, they have a ride next door. We only discovered it what on
our last trip. Yeah, because it was.
It had been closed. Before that, yeah.
And then Luigi's were like in Roadsters.
Yes. And I that's so far not not to
be confused with tow maters, which is like.
Yeah, alien swelling source. Alien swelling Source.
It's the same ride, but just with tow mater.
The Luigi's is unique because it's trackless technology and
you're all in cars and they dance around to different songs
and yeah, that's really fun as well.
It's not, it's not a difficult ride or anything that's too
intense, but it is like it is a lot of fun and yeah, just.
As well as fun being. On the ride, yeah.
And you never know what song you're going to get.
There's a there's a selection of them.
I'm always very happy when they get the mambo.
Always like the mambo song. That's my favorite.
Just such a good area. Just yeah, there's.
Never a line either for that. I think I've only ever seen it
20 minutes long so. Yeah, it's, I think we did it
just soccer. Just after at the store.
We we went on. Yeah, we did.
Was it tow mater that we did that one, the Jamboree was it
was raining while we were on it. I remember.
And which one which was fun. It was interesting.
But yeah, we. Just made it made it made the
difference. But this is not about the
theming of the area. And we went back there one
evening to see what it's like at night.
So we could do right at springs races.
And we got some food, and it was the Mac and cheese cone.
Yeah. And.
Do you know I've still? Never had one.
Every time we've been, we're like, we'll get a Mac and cheese
cone this time and then we go, you never got that Mac and
cheese cone again. So.
The atmosphere is so different at night as well, but going
there really made me feel a little bit more hopeful for the
cars there in that they're going to put in Magic Kingdom.
Me too. I think if you, I think anyone
who's been to that area will have high hopes or Disney World,
I think yes. Which is probably also a little
bit worrying. Because it might live up.
Expectations. Let's hope it does it.
It also looks great during Halloween.
Well, yeah, they theme it for Halloween.
And at night, it's all lit for
Halloween as well. And it, it looks, it looks
amazing. Like they.
Do it for Christmas as. Well, yeah, they do Christmas,
but yeah, the themed area there I think is just great.
You could wander around there for ages and yeah, go Over and
Flows V8 and get some, get some food.
Yeah. Did you ride the Guardians of
the Galaxy ride in California? I didn't.
You did good. You.
I did, yeah. Well.
We did the fast pass key which means we dipped mess gear.
So I again, that, that was one ride that I did on my very last
day in Walt Disney World and then I did on my second day in
Disneyland. So I got, I got the, I got both
very close to each other. What, what, what do you, how do
you think it compares? What?
What do you like?
And they are different. They're very different and I
preferred one in Hollywood studios.
Me too, me too. I would say the one in Calico
Adventure in Avengers Campus made me feel a little bit more
nauseous. Yep.
It's a little bit more. You just, it's just always
constantly moving all the time. It's a lot.
It's just subtle movements. Yeah, it's sometimes it's quite.
Intense. You embarrass all the time and
then yeah, it's good. I love the music.
I love theming. I think it's, I love that it's
like the same ride, but how differently they've interpreted
it and how they've made it feel so unique and, and suiting sort
of the sort of Guardians of the Galaxy.
And that's that theming versus sort of Tower of Terror and how
spooky that feels and how you you get that sort of feeling.
But it has one of the best animatronics though, which is a
rocket. Yeah, that's.
That's that's just amazing. Question, did you notice rocket
stealing the headphones in that in the first area?
I hadn't noticed that stay in the walk when I hadn't noticed
No, my friend pointed it out to me when we rode it.
She said, oh, you have to watch stay back like don't run off
with him. I think when we did it we always
rush out the room to get on the ride.
But I'm I'm I'm with you. I found it made me feel queasier
because it lasts longer. The actual dropping rise.
There's a bit where it and then you're watching a screen while
bouncing up and down. Always up and down.
Yeah, so it did. I think it's crazy.
I think Disney have done incredibly well.
This is the first Avengers campus we'd walked into, so for
us it was like, OK, we were expecting a lot and it was just
perfect timing. As soon as we walked into the
land, the opening Avengers theme played.
It felt like it It was just perfect timing.
And then you just. I had to stop for a minute.
Just to sort of recompose yourself.
Yeah, it wasn't a bit emotional. Yeah, it's, it's such a good
area and I definitely, I know we're not comparing to
Disneyland Paris. However, I definitely think it's
it's that they've done the better job than Disneyland
Paris. It's very immersive and there's
so many characters still, just they're just roam around.
At one point, he saw so many. We got to Chauncey, Red
Guardian, who at the time was just thunderballs to come out
the week before. So it was literally just off.
And how quick did they come from a film being out to the
characters in the car? It's not like it is.
We'll wait for Maximum Dizzy Plus and then in Parks they are
literally as soon as the film is released, they are within park.
That's I've noticed this and Paris is starting to do that as
well. We managed to see Red Guardian,
Captain America and Spider Man at the same time that.
Was a pretty good. Interaction We saw Black Panther
and also Shiri as Black Panther and Doctor Strange as well.
He was, we're only there for four days, but it was an it, it,
it was amazing. The amount of characters and
that's what I find is very different in Disneyland versus
Walt Disney World. How characters are roaming and
how entertainment feels very different.
In Walt Disney World, everything's very regimented.
It's like this is a place you go when you join a key for meet and
greet where there's so many roaming characters in
Disneyland. The it's a very different,
different vibe. I really notice the same.
I, I think I understand why because in Walt Disney World
there's more guests, so you need more structure.
And like you said earlier, there's lots of locals that have
met all these characters multiple times.
They're not so bothered about meeting them.
But I mean, I, I was stood next to 1.
I don't know it was. I think it might have been that.
Bad. One you mentioned that was the
not the Black Panther, but like a female black.
Yeah. There you go.
Yeah. I was just stood next to at one
point and I was like, oh, she's just watching the show with me,
OK. And I was like, oh, can we take
a photo? Bearing in mind I didn't know
who she was. She's like, yeah, let's take a
photo now. Sound like this.
She's like, no, no, do it the other way.
I was like, OK. It's nothing black answer.
That was great and and that's one thing I I really enjoy.
I really enjoy. I love a character, so I do
enjoy that. The character interaction that
we had with that's America and Spider Man was amazing.
We were just talking about various Yeah, but it was good,
good 5 minute interaction and it, it was yeah, it.
But I'll say the character interactions at Disneyland I
think are better than at Walt Disney World.
I do like the structure of how you go and meet the characters
at Walt Disney World because I'm not one per just putting myself
out there and going to talk to a round of cuffs.
Yeah, yeah. So.
Having somewhere to go. I think it's that queue.
Is that Britishness? We've got queues to go in.
Put my little introvertedness. Yeah, yeah.
It just makes me feel more comfortable rather than having
to try to push my way through a bunch of other people.
Yeah, I get that. I get that.
Yeah, OK, I haven't seen that. But luckily when I was there,
there wasn't really anyone else around, so I didn't have to feel
like I had to shimmy my way in because, yeah, I wouldn't be a
fan. Wouldn't be a fan of that
either. But there's lots of rides that
they have the same and they're similar but different.
Like The Small World, very similar but different.
Space Mountain. Similar but different.
Big Thunder, Yeah. Space Mountain is better.
Disneyland's better. Do you think they're Big
Thunder? Yeah, we we did.
It was hyperspace when we were there, sort of during the.
Starting season, yeah. And did.
Did you really think Hyperspace Mountain was good though?
Because it was Hyperspace Mountain when I was there and I
felt like they just had four TV screens there and just start all
stuff on it. The rest of it just took the
same as normal I think the good music.
Playing in the speakers, that really helped.
Yeah, I liked the music, but yeah, we would kind.
Of like being able to sit next to.
You next the cart, the state, and sitting next to that was
cool. Yeah.
In a rocket shooting. It's a lot easier to get in and
out than the one thing. That wasn't a fitness bumpy.
Yes, it is. Like you need a chiropractor.
We're not talking about the Matterhorn right now.
Luckily for us, when we were there, the Matterhorn bobsleds
was under reverb so small. World.
That there was a small world because unfortunately The thing
is when you're going for timing, when you when you book a trip,
you don't always know what's. Going to be announced.
If you if you book like the. Unlike they don't announce
closure, ride closures or night time entertainment and things
like that as far in advance. So it's only what?
3. Months.
I think is the 70th anniversary stuff started at the end of May
and started and then was more officially from July last year.
We were there for the first week of May, so we saw our third day
in the park. They started putting things up.
So we saw the signs and everything and things that they
were starting to add for it. We weren't there.
So a lot of the rights were under reefer or yeah, because
they were adding the additional bits to was it Small World, the
the song at the end. So there was there was stuff
that was they were changing. So.
But it also gives an excuse to go back again.
It does. It does.
And did you say did you go on Big Thunder there as well
though? So which big which Big Thunder
do you think is better? Is land Harris that?
That doesn't count. Yes, you're correct.
Without being on the updated version of Big Thunder comparing
obviously Disneyland was better than Walt Disney.
Yeah, I would agree for. Me.
It's, it's been such a long time since I've done Big Thunder at
Walt Disney World because of the bride closure.
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.
On that I can't compare the two I.
Don't think I would say yeah, so long Disneyland, because we've
got a chance to do it last year, so.
Yes, that was the only fifth founder we went on last year.
Yeah, and what about Haunted Mansion?
Then we did Quick Fire, which is your, which you think's the best
Disneyland. Disneyland.
Yeah, What about your? Disneyland.
I didn't think the the exterior of Disneyland, Yeah, Disneyland
is just. I don't know, I kind of think
the ride itself is better in Walt Disney World, though.
I like the the House of Haunted Mansion, the fact that the lift,
the stretching room is actually a lift.
But I think I think Walt Disney World might have it.
Small world. I'm going to, I'm going to buck
the trend. I actually think the small world
is better in Walt Disney World if they put the cat.
The only thing that's missing from me is the characters and
the building's beautiful. But I the end scene is much
bigger and grander in Walt Disney World where everyone
comes together. I really, I just, I love that
end scene and like, so I think Walt Disney World has it.
But otherwise, carousels. I mean carousels and carousels.
The difference The difference with the carousel in Disneyland
is that you can often ride with characters that they do ride on
the carousel I. Think occasionally in what
Disney World, but not very often.
It's almost it's it's more or less daily that you see it in
Disneyland. It's just because the.
Characters in all though, it's that interaction, it's that it's
not just about you meeting them. And I think what Disney World's
got better at it, I think during like the Halloween parties.
Well then there. You have a little bit more
freedom, yeah. I do think fantasy land in
Disneyland as a whole feels more whimsical.
It's a very small and. Everything's very tight and it's
very busy. It's very busy, yeah.
Given that we went to Yeah, when we went to Efteling, if you you
can see the same whimsical feel, Yeah, in Disneyland, more than I
think you can see in Disney World.
Disney World feels like there's a lot of open concrete space
between the attractions that that it loses some of, I think
the intimacy of what Efteling feels like and what they've
transposed. And I think Disneyland has that
same intimacy as well, with a lot of greenery and planting
that makes it feel that way. I think Disney World's just
moved away from that as they've concreted and opened that area.
I think they have to. I think they have to, yeah.
Because there are people that it just.
Doesn't it doesn't quite have that same whimsical intimacy,
but I think you get the both Disneyland Paris and Disneyland,
but feels like a European classic theme park.
And that's why I think I've, I just think the story, the story,
but boats. Yeah.
And Casey Junior ride Mr. Toad the carousel, all of that bit
there that we, I mean, we'll spend ages in that bit because
we'll, we'll definitely go round on Mr. Toad's while.
You know, I didn't. I didn't ride it this time.
I don't think so. Maybe I did.
Did I? No, I don't think I did.
I think we we made our focus because we we booked A5 night
trip. So the plan was to just focus on
Disneyland. It's very different booking all
Disney World, but when you're every two weeks, you focus on
days you rest, relax very much for this was like we try to get
on time as much as possible. Tried to just focus as much time
in the parks we could and so we did.
Buy Lightning Lane every day. Yeah.
One because the price wasn't as expensive As for Disney World.
It was cheaper. How How much?
Not sure whether it will be. Because it was $37 to pence, we
didn't. Spend that much on.
It no, I think, I think when we did it before it was like $25 a
day. It was. $25 a day.
But the interesting thing about it is, but something that you
don't think about is in Walt Disney World, if you're buying
like your 14 day ticket and you've got your photo pass
included in this standard with your ticket, your five days
ticket we bought doesn't have it included.
But if you get Lightning Lane, it's included in it.
So it's something else that actually makes it better value.
So some of the days that we, we wanted to make sure we got it in
the first few days we're in the park, try and get through all of
the attractions. And it meant that we could just
take it out of pace that like we will book one later in the day.
So we could let three later in the day so we can then spend the
morning that rope drop going on other attractions and fitting in
everything because there's also entertainment to focus on.
There were so many different things we were trying to do.
But. Unfortunately, we were there
midweek, and not just midweek, but we were there from a Sunday
to a Thursday. So when we got there on a Sunday
for our first park day, it was Star Wars weekend, so they'd
closed the park in the evening and for a ticketed event.
So the fireworks was Star Wars, but we couldn't have access to
it. So we didn't get chance to see
fireworks, which was our only day to see the fireworks because
it's seasonal park. Yeah, that's definitely
something worth you have. You don't think about that when
you're used to Walt Disney World, where entertainment is on
every day. You don't think about, oh, well,
if I go midweek, Fantasmic's not on, the fireworks are not on.
And and that's it's quite common.
You have to try and time it. So you'll be there at a weekend
unfortunately, but that's when the crowds are there.
So it's. Yeah, or go peak season.
Or peak season. Yeah, that's also worth doing.
We we we bought Lightning Lanes and I really go back to what you
said. I really found them so different
toward Disney World in the they're readily available.
Well, Disney World Bookie 3, you're lucky if you can get
another one sometimes, depending.
On at least at the right time as well when you want it, not like
9:00 at night. Exactly.
One in the afternoon. Exactly.
I really noticed that difference and this, this is worth noting
that a lot of rides are not on Lightning Lane in, in, in
Disneyland versus what Disney World?
Well, pretty much everything is. There's a lot of rides not
available on it. Like in California Adventure,
there's so there's, there's not that many rides on it.
So once you've done the big ticket things like the things
like Luigi's and tomatoes and there's, there's no Lightning
Lane. So you still have to get up for
those anyway. Yeah, spoken about is the
castle, which is very different. I know Walt Disney World has
just finished nearly finished being repainted back to this its
new colours regional. Millennial Grey.
Millennial Grey Just. Colour for Disney Castle.
Yeah, it's everyone said like before going to Disneyland get
prepared for a smaller cars and I thought OK, yeah, it's going
to be small. I didn't realise how small in
comparison the Walt Disney World and then you look at other
castles around the world, Shanghai before and how big that
castle is. It's tiny in comparison.
It's like a third of the height, isn't it?
It's only about 60 feet tall. But it does have a working
drawbridge bridge, doesn't it? I'm sure I've read that.
But when you get to that reveal, Libya, walking down Main Street,
it's like, OK, I need my binoculars.
It's like actually as long as it is.
But it's like, where's this castle when you've got people
walking towards the castle? You can't see it.
Yeah, you can't see it. You can't see it.
It's really bizarre. Especially when the amount of
time this week because we've been to Disney World probably
about I. Think we are in double figures
at this. Point yeah, at least double
figures before going to Disneyland.
And it was just like, you get so used to going to a Disney park
and just knowing where things are.
And I think even when the first time we went to Disneyland Paris
a few years ago, he saw, OK, everything's in a slightly
different location, but I know where I am.
But I use the castle as sort of the main point of to make focal
point. When you can't see it at first,
you reference point, you're like, oh, this is, this isn't
what I was expecting. Yeah, and wherever you are in
the park, you can look, oh, the castle's there, so I know I need
to go that way. You can't do that in Disneyland.
You get confused with malhorn bobsleds.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
That's taller, Yeah. It has its charm, though.
It's the original Disney castle. It's the first one they ever
did. So it definitely it's walking
in. Walking in Walks Park is, yeah,
just something I, I remember we did, we did vlog it.
We did, we did. I remember doing the wrap up at
the end and just getting quite emotional when we left the park
for the last time tonight. We've actually been and we've
been into Walks Park. We take that and park off our
list and I'm like, I can't wait to come back and I know there's
going to be lots of changes, but or the next time we go back to
Disneyland. But it's definitely one of those
cool memories. What do you think, John?
Have we convinced you that you need to give it a go?
Maybe just shave a few days off of Walt Disney World one year?
Just a. Long.
Trip. Exactly.
Yeah. And that's my question for you
because actually now as you've been chatting and you know, you
look at the options so and, and I, you know, admittedly I do a
lot of driving during the week anyway.
So it's actually a 36 hour car journey between the two places.
Now, I mean, I'm not get on a plane, get on a plane.
It was 100 and something. Pounds Get on a plane.
Yeah. Fair enough.
Yeah, but I could go. Yeah, yeah, that's who's in the
yeah. Well, there you go.
Yeah, 3. $100 in in gas. And hotels.
Yeah, I do sort of get your point.
Well, I think where you're going.
To a road trip, a road trip is going to see parts of America
across the basically across the I-40 or the I-10.
And you could actually go Albuquerque in Dallas and Fort
Worth or he got Houston, Austin. And I was just thinking about
you could you could actually, if you timed it right in the year,
you could actually either pick up either American football or
baseball because you're basically that far South that
you're not going to ever get any bad weather.
And then if you. Go in hurricane season?
Well, yeah. Challenge.
Yeah, but that that I think that that whole bit about walking in
Walt's footsteps, I think it's a bit that I think for any Disney
fan is, is the one part of the the whole trip to the West
Coast. That is is why you want to go
there. And and apart from the sea,
apart from the sea has there, obviously.
Yeah. No, we're all one time, Heather.
We'll just all turn up and we're all going to come round to yours
and we'll drink tea and things like that, you know?
And we'll go to Disneyland. Yeah, but I think that's the
reason it has to be done. And I think that's why I admire
you guys and the fact that you've actually got got out
there, you've done it, you've seen it, and you can compare the
two places and I actually see, you know.
Yeah. In some respects, there's no
right or wrong to this because actually I think the two
completely different experiences.
Yeah, but I still want to go to Disneyland.
Clearly from the fact that it's, it's the original 1.
For. A for a price comparison and we
went to Orlando back in January. We were there for a week.
We spent roughly about the same price for the hotel and flights
as what we did for our five nights at Disneyland.
Yeah. Yeah, so.
It's it's not particularly different in price.
Yes, tickets are more expensive, a bit longer, but it's it's what
was what surprised me about the flight.
We got some pizza, which is quite nice, but something
different that that was really surprising.
But I have to admit it was when we when everyone's because a lot
of everyone's holidays, there's budget always comes into.
So it's trying to work out what is your why of going our why of
going was yesterday morning holiday.
It's a different trip to go into Orlando.
We got the experience to go to Max Airport, which is an
experience in itself, absolutely.
And getting from there to the hotel, staying off site, staying
in a different hotel and just being 10 minutes walk from
Disneyland and just being able to eat off site within a few
minutes where without needing a car or all these different
things that add up into your holiday.
I would happily if I saw the price again that they'll be
booked for Disneyland. I'll be tended.
I really would. And it's it's so easy to weave
full run into over since we started going in 2013 to Walt
Disney World that once you've been to a Disney World, you
always want to go back to Disney World.
But there's more Disney parks. It's just pricing it up and
seeing what all of them have to offer.
And I know we've got, we've been talking about going to
Disneyland Paris. I know we've mentioned it a few
times in the show that a lot has changed in in. 21. 2020.
Two Oh wow, that match has changed.
But hopefully we can convince you, John, that you need.
When you think about it, it's not really the only extra you
have to pay on top of Walt Disney World trip if you do it
within the same trip is you have to pay for an internal flight
because you can do into Orlando and out of LAX or vice versa.
So you just got the internal flight hop over and then Disney
tickets. It's definitely doable.
Yeah, there's some. There's some great hotels, like
budget hotels that are walkable. There's even like Super 8
Travelodge type hotels I celebrate in the Sheraton.
Yeah. I mean, the Howard Johnson is,
is my offsite one of preference. But I mean, there's so many that
are offsite. You don't have to spend a
fortune. The Disneyland hotels are
expensive. There's just no way around that.
If you're paying cash. There are a lot of money.
I I, I wouldn't be paying them personally because I ain't got
that some money. People do.
But there are so many great walkable hotels in the area that
you can just, you can stay off site.
You can eat the IHOP around the corner.
You don't have to. Yeah, I.
Think that's that's the flip. That's the flip though, isn't
it? Never break the walk to.
McDonald's the water. So totally with the blaze.
Pizza as well, just down the road.
Is there there's a Blaze Pizza. I missed that.
There's a Blaze. Yeah.
We don't like to buy this. This is the downside actually,
when you stay in Disneyland, it's I didn't step foot outside
so I didn't see anything outside.
I literally flew into LA, got picked up and we went to
Disneyland and then same in reverse.
So that's why I. Think mess walked past 20
different hotels from miles anyway.
There were so many in that area, Castle Inn and Suites, who are
several times and there's just so many different sort of place
in shops along there from like, you know, centres for scenes.
To CBS, there's 711. Yes, there's so much along that
stretch, but we haven't spoken about one thing.
But before we wrap up to our show, we haven't spoken about
food. Walt Disney World about food.
Yeah, but we haven't compared the park food.
All I can say is Disneyland wins.
But it depends what you want. It depends what.
You want you want a churro, didn't I?
Definitely. Oh, if you want a churro, then
yeah, definitely. I also think that they, I think
because it probably because it's California versus Florida, there
are a lot, there's a lot more variation in the quick service
and a lot of healthier options. I found there are a lot of
healthier options available rather than the standard.
I mean, you could get burgers and fries and hot dogs and fries
obviously, but there was a lot more other options.
Quick service. I find I.
Think we ate quick service all week?
We didn't have a table service restaurant, so we can't really
compare those or we can compare them that We did look at some of
the menus and none of them particularly appealed.
Or another stick out. I didn't.
Stick out enough for us to want to book one in a short trip and
take time away from it by dining.
Also, doing that first trick to Disneyland, you want to fit
everything. You want to?
Yeah. What are you doing well?
Disney World just trying to fit everything.
It's like I don't want to waste type eating.
I want to be on all these rides on experience and everything.
So, but the next time we go, we're probably more being
clients book things like fantastic dining package or
even. If you do, they do a quick
service option of Fantasmic dining package, you know, so
it's that's really good value. I think it's less than $20.00 I
think when I last. Looked and it was nice to have a
churro that wasn't. Stale.
Yeah.
Great minds, it's. Pretty much the most anyone I've
had about Dizzy World is latest Rock Hard.
Yeah, it. Was also really nice to have
them in different flavours. Yes.
There was not that many flavours.
There were not that many different flavours.
This trip I searched every time we passed one.
They just had the standard flavours, which I was surprised
that. Was it last year we had the
poison apple one? No, that was it before.
Yeah, before poison. Apple One.
What was the one we had? At Carlsland.
Banana cream. Banana cream.
Oh no, you can keep that one. I wouldn't it.
Was really nice. But yeah, there's, there's, so
there's, there's lots of options.
And one thing that's a difference between the two is
everywhere asks you if you take this if you've got any discounts
and they take discounts at all the quick service and loads of
the food if you. Order on the app, it's their
straight away. It's their straight away.
Order, we use that quite a lot because it was just easy because
we're focusing on quick service. It's like, OK, we're going to,
we've got this few rides booked, we want some food, so we went to
see hungry. Hungry.
Bear Oh yeah, I quite liked it. Yeah, that's true.
One by Tiana's. Yeah.
And then we went to the one by soaring as well.
Yeah. Yeah, it's a very nice breakfast
grill. Yeah, they yeah, we were there
for breakfast. Yeah, yeah.
We had breakfast there that was. Fun.
It was only nice breakfast. Yeah, take a chance of drink.
And it was very good timing for when we did soaring when we were
over there because it was soaring over California.
Yeah, I got that too, I think. Must be this time of year, yeah.
Isn't the theming of that area great for soaring?
Yeah, it's like you're in an aircraft hangar.
That's very. Cool.
And then the plane. Outside and you're back onto the
arts and crafts side of of the the Grand California as well.
It just, it just feels right how that is themed.
You're in like airfield hangars going to ride and sawing.
That's. Very cool.
The one thing that I always take away from Disneyland when I'm
there is how how embedded it feels.
And I think Disney World you there is a bit more of a stark
contrast of yeah, there's loads of trees and then all of a
sudden it's like loads of concrete, loads of concrete
footpaths. And it's there's a bit more of a
stark contrast and and visual of Disney World, whereas I feel
like it, it almost sits within its surroundings, especially in
the Disneyland park, the trees and the leaves that fall, it
feels like. They've always been there, been
there, and Disneyland was built around them, which maybe it was,
to be fair, maybe it. Was but it feels but it feels
like that when the when the leaves are falling and there's
and it's like autumnal feel and that, that it just feels like it
belongs in its surroundings a bit more, less, less.
Purpose. Built.
Yeah. Which?
Which I think probably is correct, isn't it?
Because yes, Disneyland was purposely built, but it was just
built there, whereas Walt Disney found the area for Walt Disney
World and bought bits of land and purposely built a giant
place built. Everything.
Yeah, exactly so. It's my Walt Disney World was
sort of built like what but you couldn't do at Disneyland.
Exactly. If you could do what he wanted
at Disneyland. If he had a lot of space.
Yeah, that is, that is true. I love the romanticism, the
romanticism of the original Disneyland.
It feels like, like you said, John, the walk in and waltz
footsteps thing. Not something I referenced
there, but it it just has a certain romantic feel to the
place. Old Disney.
It feels like old classic Disney.
For any Disney lover, I think you will enjoy Disneyland.
You go, you go in the Firestone. On your adventure.
Yeah, which is yeah in your. Park, that's that same feel to
it, yeah. I would say that's that's what
Hollywood studios could have been.
Yeah. But I feel like with what
Hollywood Studios we discussed about earlier, I'm looking at
these pictures now and I'm just going like, that reminds me so
much of being in California Adventure and going like, OK,
this is where we're getting there.
Hollywood Studios has gone through so many different phases
since it opened. It feels like it's finally
getting an identity, a bit more of an identity than it's had in
the past decade or so. Yeah.
And that's fine. When they can work out what they
wanted to rename the park. Then it was like we've gone from
being a studio to are we going just to put everyone in a story?
We're still keeping the studio bit what are we doing as our,
what do we take out? What do we move?
And now I think things have moved in to the right direction
and just seeing what they've they they're doing in this area
with Launch Bay was I just think it's moving in the right
direction. It really is.
So do you need your question answering Ben is is the West
goes better? Yeah.
And what's your name? Simon.
For, for me, I, I love California generally anyway and
I think I came away last September and I think I said
this to you at the time, I was like, right now Disneyland for
me is where it's at. But I'll see if my mind has
changed later in the year when I'm back at.
Disney World. I've not been there.
For a few years. Yeah, Last August we were of all
Disney World. We'd spent two weeks there and
after being in Disneyland for five nights and then going,
well, Disney World in August, well, Disney World is home, but
Disneyland has my heart. It's.
Exactly. It was one of those things that
I exactly felt when we walked into California Adventure was
the first park in Disneyland we walked into and then we went, I
was like the the Disneyland park the following day and I was just
gonna this is just magical. It's just, there's just
something about it you don't get until you're there.
And, and I love Walt Disney World and it's still my my home,
but we're going to have to go to get back to Disneyland in the
next few years. I miss Walt Disney World when
I'm not there. Yeah, yeah, that sounds.
Yeah, yeah, I love. Disneyland.
You wait till you've been a couple more times, miss.
Yeah. I just think cars was the thing
that sold it to us. Yeah.
That that it was that it was endless.
Yeah. That's all.
I'm not in Disneyland park, Yeah.
That's. Yeah, it's the.
It's the Matterhorn for. Us.
I love that actor. I love the Matterhorn, it's
absolutely brilliant. Do.
You know what, I hope anyone listen to this is who hasn't
considered to go into Disneyland, especially if you
have frequent visitor board sit on their list for the next time.
Maybe you're convinced to book that flight and just even
whether it's part of your next Odyssey World trip.
Because just like Robin, you went from coast to coast.
And just being able to do that in one trip is something that I
think I'd like to do. Yeah, it'd be one day, yeah.
We did a. We did a.
Cats though, didn't we on on doing a whole California trip?
So you've got you've got 2. There's no reason.
For that. Nobody.
You can't have an excuse. You can either go and do a
California trip and fit it in or we've proven now that you can
fly from Disney World to with with a little, a little bit of a
little bit extra for an internal flight, but you can fly quite
easily from now. And yeah.
Bolt it on how? Long Is the California trip
first? Yeah.
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