Hello and welcome to the great British wiki Waffle.
Tonight we are talking about. A quick.
Dash across the pond. How short is too short for a
trip to Disney? Or is there even such a thing?
Join us as we take a flying visit stateside, catch up on
this week's news, and celebrate that we made it halfway through
the week. Now my wheels in ocean and my
windows open with the wind blowing in my head, I'm driving
down the highway. Gonna do this my way.
I can feel it in the. Air, here I go.
Hello. Hello everyone.
How are we doing tonight? Very good.
Yes, it's Wednesday and Robin, you're back home.
You're back in the UK. I know, I know, your eyes are
not deceiving you. I am actually in the UK.
Who knew? I said.
I said before the show when we get to the new segment, it
should be Robin's in the UK. Oh wow, I feel like you can't
talk. Claire, how does your countdown?
It's a competition, isn't? It have I packed.
Anything. No.
Yeah, that was going to be my next question.
Have you packed? I've thought about it and then
gone. No, it can wait.
Well, that's half the battle thinking about all things you
want to take with you, isn't it? I know, I know.
It's Yeah. No, it will happen.
It'll be Sunday morning. I'll pack be fine.
I was. Going to say it's only a short
trip So what do you need? We'll.
Come back in the show, right? And how are you, John?
I'm all right. Yeah.
It's Wednesday. Yeah.
We've had the heat none. It's been that cold up here.
It's we've actually had the heat none.
Which is absolutely goes totally against everything that I'm all
about. So.
Yeah. We're middle of May.
Yeah, we do. We do not leave the heating on.
Mind you, I've felt like I've needed the heating on.
It's pretty chilly back here. Back there again.
It does. It comes as a bit of a shock to
the system, doesn't it? Although I must admit, having
seen a few videos from Magic Kingdom this afternoon, it's,
it's not very pleasant over there today.
So they are thank. Be thankful, be thankful.
Oh well. Have they had massive
hailstones, I wonder? No, we've had hailstones, rain.
Yeah. Just thought, yeah.
Welcome to the summer in the UK. Yeah.
It's the summer all in one day, isn't it?
Exactly, exactly that. I went out earlier with my
sunglasses. Yeah.
Who's that? Do it Four Seasons in one day?
Who's? Crowded House.
Yay, take the weather with. You as well, yeah.
I didn't. People have thought a band from
New Zealand would be so mystified by the weather and
things like that, you know, So anyway.
Well, how are you doing, Ben and Becca?
Yeah, yeah. I'm good, good.
It's actually, yeah. I've been trying to go through
lots of walks throughout the day, but every time it's like,
OK, is it time to put shorts on? Is it warm?
Is it cold? Is it coats?
It's just yeah, it's been my phone is so I've been pinging
constantly all day. Tell me about it's raining
outside. No, I'm going to stay indoors.
Don't think I'm fine to tell me that I'm still.
Doing it, you have to. You have to.
It is actually drying out there at the minute, so I think it was
the brightest it's been order. Well, that's nice.
Yeah. I went out earlier with my
sunglasses and an umbrella. It's like I don't know which one
I need, but I needed both at the same time.
So I'm 20 minutes away from Ben and it's miserable here.
So it's either coming from you or it's coming to you.
Who knows? It was coming too much.
I don't remember being too bad. And sorry, Heather, that's
that's just mean. No, it's not.
I actually that's. I love the fact that it's sunny
there. Was it sunny there, Robin?
It was, it was very sunny. I will never get over though.
Yeah, I know I'll never get over, though.
How cold it gets after the dark in California and South in
SoCal, it gets really chilly once the sun goes down.
And I I wasn't prepared for it and I was freezing every
evening, even in May. Yeah.
Which I have friends with us. I've just seen who's in the
chat, we've got Kirsty. Yeah.
Thank you. Matt, nice to have you with us.
Matt, really good to see. You hi Kirsty, because she's
usually working on, she's usually working and catches up
on later on. So yeah, this is quite a nice
one. Someone called yeah BI love the
fact yes, I think I. Think this leads 300 days long
I. Think we also.
Yeah, that's, that's exactly chill.
That's a really cracking way to describe the way that things are
at the minute. Every week seems to be 300 days
along that, Yeah, talking Disney just takes a little bit of that
edge away and just sort of he's got a nice little, nice little
chill out about stuff. Wouldn't it's that that closer
to the weekend? Yeah, hands on for the weekend
is now on. And this is going to be warmer
this weekend. Let's hope.
Probably not. No, I couldn't really have next
weekend, but. Oh, wink.
Claire's. Will you be back by then,
Claire? No, I come back overnight.
On Saturday, so I arrive back on Saturday, Bring.
The weather bring the weather back there.
Degrees over there so. I'm going to be a warmer.
Yeah. So just before we were starting
the show, I said to the guys, what news is there this week?
Oh I've I've got loads of news and I might jump off and have a
rant at one point. So yeah, stay tuned for me.
So join. Us my favorite.
I'll let you lead those jobs. I might go first.
I'll go first, right So this is this is this is my baffling
thing I've read and heard in many years of of Disney history
and things like that. So the Walt Disney World
president has announced his retirement and in a 36 year
career with Disney actually began the form of Magic Kingdom
as an engineer, right. So he just kind of came out and
announced this having obliterated a traditional
beautiful boat ride Tom Sawyer Island, Little thing put big IP
right in the middle of Magic Kingdom and then decides, yeah,
I'm not going to see that too. I'm off, I'm off skate.
And I just I was reading it and I actually felt that some of the
you know, and I know Disney Twitter can be at a horrible
place at times, but some of the guys on there were absolutely on
point. And actually, when you read, you
know, as ACEO, you have you have to have some responsibility for
the decisions that you make that for a place that we all know and
love. You see it out, see that through
to absolute fruition, because actually going now basically
says, I don't really care. I don't care if you've been
there 36 years. I think this is this is one of
the worst things I've actually seen from a, from a, from a
management point of view for an awful long time.
And I can only hope maybe someone, someone above him has
pushed him out because they no, you don't.
But I just think it's really, really odd, really strange.
Why Devil's Africa? You're always going to be in the
middle of some kind of project Manger at Disney World who's
always going to leave in the middle of something.
Oh, Becca, I think you're very charitable.
I know. This week to stop the The
morning show at the Castle Stage.
Oh, and just do audio only. And audio only.
I think that it might have been like a a bit of a flea male, you
know, dropping on a Friday afternoon and then runaway
moment. I just had it.
He's been there a long time. He's done a lot of good things,
but I I think that probably the decision to make those changes
is probably 1 to step away from quickly.
Yeah. It's just bizarre.
It really is. I, I actually, I would, I would
start with that. I actually feel that for me, I
really feel that, you know, it, it has some come from Josh and
I, I, I actually think, feel that this is where I'd love to
see the. Internal emails.
Yeah, I, I actually, yeah, I, I actually feel that maybe, yeah,
maybe there is a bit of pressure from above.
Maybe there is a bit of pressure from someone who knows exactly
where Magic Kingdom's going. I just I just find it.
If he's not prepared to stay and see it through, then better we
goes and that it's someone else who's going.
To someone else take over and. Someone who's got the energy,
someone's got a bit of vision, someone who's got the ability to
steer that in their in a positive direction.
I would rather you know what those six years in one job is,
you know, in one company is a long time.
Maybe fresh, fresh eyes will help.
That's kind of me being eternal optimist and thinking I've only
got 4 days to go until I travel so.
Maybe one of one of those things when you've got a new CEO, the
best six months we've always said is like there's going to be
a lot of things changing and, and a lot of people that if
they've been there a long time and since so many changes,
they're going to go when delivered was the right time for
them to leave. And he's decided this is the
time that whether he's wants to go or when it's best for him,
along with someone else coming in who's got a better idea.
I get the feeling, Ben, this is this is one of those that is it
is basically work in motion and and it's basically either he's
decided to jump ship before it becomes a little bit
problematic. And I would also say a little
special thank to Mark in the chat, I think.
Yeah, I know, I know you can't. I know you can't.
You I know you can't. You can't say anything and
things like that. But yeah, just that affirmation
that I'm on. That's exciting.
Mark, that's good to know. Yes.
You know that I always take the optimistic route that in terms
of, you know, when someone leaves, someone else has got to
take that job and hopefully it's someone with vision, with
energy, with absolutely positivity.
And I'm, I'm excited to see what happens next.
That's you know. I'm, I'm with that clerk, I'm
going into your. Retirement.
Let's make way. I'm with I'm with that and I
actually feel that maybe some of those short sighted decisions
that have been on his watch. I, I again, some things you get.
Older. You get short sighted, don't
you? Let's face it.
I don't know. That's why I'm wearing glasses
now, you know? That's good.
Point. You fell straight for it like
that. Again.
Yeah. So some more news for this week.
The only piece of news that I bring to the table is that
Mickey's Not So Scary Halloween party tickets officially went on
sale this week and the Halloween night is already sold out I
hear. And then I I saw on their own
availability that it's not on there anymore.
So that's. Which, which doesn't surprise
me, but I think it's you're gonna have Halloween then.
No, they're they're already booked greater than that.
I may have booked some. Tickets.
I was going to say out of us, who's booked tickets?
No, not me, not yet. We've had the conversation, but
it's, it's like. So, John, we're going while
you're still there, just say yeah.
What? What day?
What day exactly? Sounds like the first thing.
The 21st, because of the fact that we were, because I took our
own advice in terms of the show we did about Halloween not so
long ago. We arrive on the 18th and so
I've booked and Morgan and his girlfriend at Morgan's Single
Chat somewhere are there for 10 days.
So I booked the Friday night after we arrived so that if it
gets washed out, which does sometimes happen in August,
we've still got a date that we can be bumped to and they're
still there. So we are booked for Friday the
21st of August. We have costumes already in
construction. That's very cool.
I mean, this year I. Cannot tell you there was so
much time before now and then, but it is next level this year I
cannot. I was going to say you you
mentioned about construction. It just made me think of like
most of Disney World. That's the Magic Kingdom,
honestly, it's fiend. There is so much going on with
these costumes and girlfriend Riley is absolutely 100's got a
sewing machine out all sorts of stuff going on Amazing.
I can't wait to stay Yeah vintage is is absolutely
tainted. I have a.
Really, Vintage is so useful. Quite.
I think I feel like Morgan's given a little hint in the chat
isn't? He what?
Chickens. Could they beat?
Chickens and chickens. Chickens.
They're chicken. You get his character from
Chicken Run. Something that you you brought
up as well is the fact that we actually had somebody ask us a
question about about this in the waffler's arms.
Now this is really interesting because actually Bethany was in
the waffler's arms. She and this is what we love
about this show because actually, if someone's watching
or listening to the show or the podcast and things like drop us
and drop us a line because we do talk back to you.
And and again, Bethany came up again showing that she listens
to the show talked, talked about some of the books that that
we've been talking about previously.
We will come back to them as well.
And you're not yeah, you're not giving anything away.
But I did try and do that. But she also asked about the
Halloween party. And I think this is there you
go, I would say better. So being Disney, there you go.
So Bethany had asked and waffles about buying not so scary
holding partly ticket from attraction tickets because it's
slightly cheaper. Third party, yeah.
Yeah, and I think as well, I asked Robin, you answered that.
Absolutely brilliant. I actually feel that from my
perspective, I actually felt that if you buy from Disney, you
could probably manage it a little bit more through the app.
However, if you get rained out and you go like Claire said, and
you've got an opportunity to go in again, just join the line and
know in the rain it's a little bit tricky, but make sure make
sure you get something before you.
Think it's still as long as you've linked it on your My
Disney Experience, you better build it through the.
Through the app. Yeah, so you shouldn't have an
issue. Disney will.
I don't. In my experience, Disney don't
seem to have. They don't seem to care where
you got them. They'll make it right.
Will they give you your money back?
As a different question, they don't tend to give people their
money back. They'll usually give them a
ticket for something else or. Credit for the people an.
Alternative day or if that's not suitable I think they've done
like a one and a Magic Kingdom ticket for the next few months
or. Yeah, yeah.
So and you're everyone sort of gets the same, the same
treatment so. Can I can I also just as as a
news item, right, And this is Claire.
This might help you as well. Now, in the past we've
experienced the whole beauty that is Guardians of the Galaxy.
They've played about with the queuing within the ride.
Now this is a little, I think it's a little bit contentious.
It's not on any of the the major platforms.
And things like this has come from people who are in the
parks. And what they're trying to avoid
is that second showroom where everyone goes to the right and,
and it just basically elbows everyone out of the way when the
doors open and things like that. And the what they're doing is
they're actually holding. There's a holding Bay a little
further on where if you and and there's no, there's no rhyme or
reason to this. So they will open a different
door and you'll get held and it's up the cast member.
Which line goes first? Now some people were really
annoyed, so I kept back polite there, didn't I, that they were
right on? Better to be worried about
people. Yeah, but they were right on the
door. They got there and then they got
held and the people, the people, the people behind them got into
the ride first. So again, it again, it just, I
think it's all it goes back to that whole thing about safety
and about stop stopping people from being that smart aleck who
decides that, oh, if I go in, I go there, I'll stand at the
door, I'll make sure that I'm first.
And it's just like a free for all and I think.
So in, in February when we rode Guardians, they had said
previously when the ride was open, I think probably last
summer, you know, when you go through, you're in the second
showroom, everyone crowds over to the bride, goes through the
doors and then everyone funnels up that corridor.
And there was a corner on that corridor where if you caught
your arm or your leg or your hip or whatever, there was a sharp
order. It was really uncomfortable.
And the way in which they've designed the hand rails where
they sort of jut out and then everyone catches themselves on
it as they walk up. I ended up in bruises many
times, not from other people pushing into me.
They've actually, they had actually sort of taped off like
like cut off with like the stands and like the barriers,
the bottom corner of that. So everyone had to go almost
down to the left and then up the corridor.
So no one was bashing into that corner.
So this I think is just the next step on from that.
To be honest with you. I think it was it was actually
really good because nobody was being pushed into that corner
and getting hurt. And I guess that, you know, if
you're a child with your eyes at that height, it could, you know,
to to quote was it who, who was it?
It was a potential death trap. That's why you think of that
Lynn spot. Lynn folds Word on BBCTV in the
1990s, you could actually really hurt yourself if a child got
their head caught on that corner.
So a partly design error in terms of a sharp corner, but
also people's behaviour is is not great.
So yeah. I'm I'm glad, I'm glad it's been
looked. At yeah, safety is the first key
and therefore I I have no issue and actually I quite like
watching all of that show with, you know the.
I like doing to the left because it I'm away from people.
Yeah, I have my different thing. Does it matter?
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, some people, I guess it does, yeah.
I think it's something that probably pays for lightning Lane
and gone. Like, oh, I mean, now we're in
an example, yeah. But the lightning just cuts the
cure. It doesn't cut the experience
for it. Yeah, that's a show in itself,
isn't it? Like, yeah.
That was my favorite part. What the?
The bit in the? The bit in the?
When? We talk about the Turkey like.
Yeah, Ecotian, Yeah. I just think the shows are
brilliant so. Yeah.
That's really good. Closing point, closing point out
as well. Just I'm just looking at the
time at 5:30. At 5:30 US time, Magic Kingdom
shuts. Today.
Today, because the Dave Matthews Band are playing and there's a
private, there's a private conference event.
And you know, you know, when you just like, it's a bit rubbish.
Yeah. And you see what you're
thinking. If you're going to show I'm not,
I'm not sure. I'm not a big Dave Matthews fan.
But like, I would be getting lucky, getting a better band on
that stage. Come on.
Worth their? While my goodness me, come on,
let's let's go with it. But yeah, I just thought it was,
I just thought a really weird one.
Yeah. Did you see the news about the
Swedish Chef treats that are coming to the Yeah, like today,
I think. And I saw the.
I was like, that looks very red. That looks.
Like that looks interesting. Yeah, leave your.
Tongue and your teeth and toilet bowl please.
Can you try one just so you can tell?
Us Hey, I went to cake bake and I had loads of glitter and
nothing happened. I didn't get a snow globe.
I was very disappointed. Hey, that's impressive.
Disappointed. It was so.
Disappointing. The stoma life of a snow globe.
Yeah, I, you know what? I I am gutted for you.
Yeah, I was. I was.
I was very disappointed, but never mind was cake.
Bite shot good. I love the cake bake, I've been
there a couple of times. The food is excellent, really
nice. It's worth noting that you used
to get discount at lunchtime and they've removed that.
So you did get the I think I'm not.
Can't remember if it was annual pass or DVC or both.
It was only at lunch. Now it's silently been removed,
Millie and I. Didn't Millie and I did take
away. We got drinks and cake from
there in February. The drinks on really good.
They do a thing called a pink Princess, which Mel's really
liked, which had glitter and stuff in it.
I had an ice and vanilla Chai that was so good, so good.
The. Drinks.
Menus. We've looked at it, but
Boardwalk with the drink. It's absolutely worth it.
Yeah, the food, the food's good too.
I really enjoy it. The first time we went, we were
a group of us said we'll go once so we can say we've done it
because it's a bit expensive. And we were all sat round going,
oh goodness, I want to come. This was really nice.
So I used how good it was. Yeah, me too.
So yeah. But in other news, Typhoon
Lagoon opened today. It's good.
So we have two water parks open all the summer.
So that's good. And the only other bit of news I
can find, I think it's worth worth mentioning is Disney
Vacation Club welcome home weeks.
So it's a bit like the past holder days over the summer.
They have DVC welcome home weeks.
So if you've got vacation club, it's it's all is that free ice
creams, lots of like event little events going on.
So if you have got DVC you should have a look and check
that out too. It was really useful.
Not last year, actually. It was perfect for our dates so.
Yeah, I think I got a free ice cream last year.
I think that was it. It's worth it.
It's a bit of dizzy. Don't often give it something
away for free. So, so free.
Doughnuts from other guys? Yes.
Oh my magnet. On Tuesday, mine's already on my
bin. On it, not in it I.
Just I just remind people as well, if you listen to this or
watching this and you're actually airing Epcot today,
please go and ride. Sorry, because it's the very
last day of Soaring Around the World before Epcot closes it and
it reopens together on May the 26th as Soaring Across America.
So. Unless you're an annual pass
holder and the previews. Happened to be on Tuesday and
Wednesday next week. Oh.
Oh we, we will wait with bated breath to hear you obviously to
be. In it, but now you.
Said it happened to be on Friday.
When? I are you is Jack in the I think
Jelly are you? I just.
Went always you early going to work hard out, but it just.
So I'll tell you why have you? Have you got a getting bored?
Wouldn't we can it video? That's all I'm saying.
That's it. That'd be neat.
That's what. Man, she can look apart.
I'm not. Being a person, no, I'm going to
enjoy it, I'll tell you about it, but I think everyone needs
to experience it for themselves, so.
Yeah, most of the people. Sharing it online.
There'll be so much content from next.
Week. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You don't need my Gogi video. Any stuff?
Are you all up on dodgy videos? Is that what it is?
So I knew you were going to pick up on that.
I will take one for the team and go and check out.
Someone will work across America.
We appreciate you, all your hard work, what you do.
For us, you know how much I love that attraction anyways.
You might you might get you might get early entry in the
bluey as well honourable Kingdom that would just that would just
fit in the same same. Morgan's got your number wobbly.
Bluey is awesome. I love Bluey and I haven't
watched Bluey episodes. If if I can go meet Bluey and
Bingo, I absolutely will. Bigger.
So on to today's subject then. Yeah, it was just created for
Claire. How?
How old are? You sure?
We've done five nights at Disneyland.
Wait, Disneyland? We did one night at Disneyland
Paris or just one overnight and we did like a short week.
I'm going to see. I suppose I just did four nights
at Disneyland, so I suppose that's quite short.
It depends what you call by short because it.
Depends where you're going. I know, but on the extremes,
John, you've had trips like like all week, months or three of a
month. Yeah, we did.
We did. We did 5 weeks.
We did 5 weeks once. And yeah.
We're not jealous. Yeah, it's a bit.
It's a. It's a bit strange, isn't it?
Because actually this is the bit I've never experienced and it's
a bit, I think my very first visit was only 10 days and it
was not long enough. And I know that you guys are
actually, and I, if I go to Paris, I'll do Paris for 2-3
days and that's it. And I'm done.
And, but going to Orlando is, is so different.
And so just, I don't know. I don't know how you guys do it.
I really don't. And that's what, that's what
intrigues me about this show. I I, I mean, we'd love to do, I
would love to get on a plane and just go there for, you know, for
even three nights. I could do that and just like,
just jump back in these. Yeah, yeah.
Tell us all about it. So the shortest I've done is 3
nights. That was.
Did you find it was too short? So the circumstances surrounding
that were that was the beginning when Morgan was going out on his
college program. So I flew out with him for three
nights before he started it, before he started his programme.
Now I needed to get home because Millie had something at school
on the the Friday, I think. So I flew out like Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesday, flew back on Thursday and so I could be at
school on Friday for her. I so three, it was jam packed
and that was partly the circumstances.
So we arrived on Monday, Tuesday morning, we got our super early.
We went to Walmart, did all the shopping for Morgan and Josh.
We went to the parks. We had breakfast the next day,
we went to the park. So we did do three days in the
parks. We did all the shopping.
We absolutely loaded up the room at Pop that Morgan was staying
in. So we shared a room at Pot.
I'll be honest with you, it felt like a bit of a like crazy few
days and it felt like no time at all from getting off the plane
and arriving to getting back on the plane and going home.
I really had a great time. And, and I think I often, so
when I go solo and actually when I went with Millie in February,
I go for five nights. So I'm going on Monday and I fly
back overnight on Saturday nights.
So I'm there for five full nights.
And I think for me on my own, that's kind of the ideal time.
I think if I was going for longer than that on my own, I'd
start. I might start to feel guilty.
No, you wouldn't trust me. But five nights seems to for
quite nicely for me because I can get, I can get a visit to
each part, I can get some shopping done.
And as we've talked about on the show, I am not someone who is
going to go and lay by a pool. I'm not, I'm not taking this
easy when I'm there on my own. So I do go morning till late and
absolutely tainted at both ends really, because I want to get
the most out of my time and that suits me and my personality and
my energy levels. So I'm quite happy to go into
the parks at 7:00 in the morning and leave them at one AMI might
go back to the resort for an hour in the day to get changed
or to drop some shopping off or something like that.
Or I might go to Walmart or Publix or Taje or whatever I'm
doing. But I will absolutely make the
most of my time. I try and catch up with friends
when I'm there. I try and grab dinner with a
friend if I possibly can. And so I know next week I don't,
I don't have plans during the day.
I kind of know where I'm going to be each day and who I'm who
I'm meeting up with and it's busy.
I'm really excited because I've got things planned that I'm
really looking forward to doing. I know I'm not going to have a
moment to to breathe, but that's OK because that's that's my
choice. I know some people like to go
and just like hang by the pool and that chill out and Disney
Springs and like I will find an hour to sit in the bar at the
boathouse. Trust me that that will happen.
But that will be after having been in the past for certain or
8 hours. So I guess that's that's my
personality and my preference for some people that I.
Think it's having a plan. I find that the short trip
because you've got less days. It's just for us, I remember
when they did a Christmas trip, but it was like we weren't sure
the week before the weather changed.
It was like, OK, it's completely different.
We're not going to spend any time by the pool because it's
like 1° outside the first three days within there.
But then it was just we were in the parks from like 7:00 AM in
the morning and we were leaving the parks and floats and it
pretty much was the only day, the Wednesday, Wednesday we.
Got a bit popped out. Yeah, we got Animal Kingdom and
it was like there was an our Q our and half QTC Lion King with
Aaron, half PC Finding Nemo. That I'm with Jason and.
Zakat is this brilliant spell that day.
So because like I, I absolutely recognise that if that was me,
I'd be like, now I'm out, I'm not doing that, but I know I'm
going back. So I think the benefit of me is
I went in December, I went in February, I'm going next week
and then I know I'm going again in August and that is that the
frequency of my trips. You just show it off now,
Claire. Yeah.
Go for multiple trips for a shorter period, which means that
I know if I don't do something, that's cool because I can pick
her up and that in in August and I'll do it then and I'm not
worried about it. I think that's that's the top
tip. You can't.
You can't fit it all in. Yeah.
So it doesn't, I don't think it matters how long you go for,
whether it be 5 nights or five weeks.
You're always going to have that list of stuff that you want to
do and it's like we went last August.
We're not going to do all these well properly until sort of May
next year, so we made sure we had a list of all the stuff we
wanted to do. Still missed they still.
Never do. It well, and actually, I don't
necessarily think you want to do it all in one trick, because if
you're rushing from attraction to attraction or show to show
and you're just like like cane, you're like absolutely massive
running around trying to fit everything in, then you're
you're missing some of the magic, you know?
And you can imagine. You're missing most of the
magic, to be honest, because it because it's not like it's not
like that. No, I think as well, and this is
just, I'm thinking of people who are watching or listening from
the United States as well, because their way of actually
going to Walt Disney World is very different from ours.
Hence the reason that, you know, you guys, you guys tend to have
that, you know, a little block of time where you can either get
time off work or you, you've got sort of, you know, it's, it's
like a public holiday and things like that.
And you know, you can either drive down or you can jump a
flight and it's, it is crazy intensive.
Whereas you're, we're travelling a little bit differently.
But I actually think it's, it's still the same premise.
And I still think if you're, if you're in the States and you
live in the States, you know, we, I think we still would try
to get the same out of even though even a three-week,
three-week took it as they tried to go out a few days, you know.
I'm interested to know from our friends who are over in the
States who might be listening today, would you come to the UK
for five nights? If that was adoption, would you,
would you, would you do it the other way back?
Would you come to London? I.
Wouldn't that's true, Yeah. Speak County to come to London
for five nights or Edinburgh for five nights.
Oh, and now we're talking Edinburgh and Glasgow.
Yeah, I could do that. I might not.
Yeah, I might not remember an
awful lot about Edinburgh. But I just wonder, you know, we,
we're only going to one place, like we're going to Orlando, we
might be going to Universal. And I have to say, when I go for
five nights, I never do Universal and Disney.
Disney because I've got a pass. It's easy.
And so I don't need to think about, yes, I've got a car so I
can I can move myself around as I want.
I wouldn't try and fit. Can I ask, can I ask a question
there, Claire? Because actually if you go for
such a short period of time and you are just only doing Disney
and this again, I'm thinking of maybe people in the chat or
people who are planning this. Is it possible to do it without
the car? Oh totally.
I've done it without the car as well.
Yeah, I choose the car because I'm really irritating.
I cannot be bothered to wait for the Mears Connect I'll.
Just yeah, I'm with you and. Honestly, it could be a 5 minute
wait and it'll still be too long for me because that's my
personality. It's never 5 minutes, is it?
Let's be honest. And there's always three more
stops before your hotel. Well, I think the time that I
did it was a Christmas trip and I waited 20 minutes.
So I landed in Terminal C when it was newly opened.
I had to walk to Terminal A, which was fine, waited outside
for and I waited inside for them.
I did, I'd done it twice actually.
I did before it became Mears Connect.
I did the, the funny one with all the trains on the side.
Yeah, I did that one. And then I did Mears Connect and
I, I probably waited 20 minutes for the, the bus to, to load and
then it went to a couple of resorts before mine.
I guess it took an hour maybe to get to, to my resort, which was
fine. The bit I didn't like was on the
way back to the airport at the end of the trip.
I like to, I am someone who like Robin, we differ here.
I'd like to be at the airport 3 hours before.
That is my routine. I'm with you.
I just like to get my bags checked in and get through
security. I'll go to the lounge.
I don't care if I'm sat there for three hours it I just need
to know by that point I know I'm going home and I'm kind of like
I'm done. So being picked up from the
hotel at 2 hours and 30 minutes before my flight, I didn't like
that. I felt anxious about that.
So I chose from that point on, actually, I'll just get a car
and then I can go to the supermarket and my own time.
I want to go at 6:00 in the morning because I'm awake.
I can, if I want to drive up to the outlet at the top of I
drive, I can do it whenever I choose to and I don't have to
worry about getting an Uber because I don't do that on my
own. So for me, getting a car gives
me the independence that I enjoy regardless of when I'm there,
and I don't find it cost that much for five.
No, to be honest, no. We've managed to fly seven
nights in January. It cost us £160.
That's brilliant. Depending on the car, you can.
I was going to say right now. It was a BMW.
Oh it's OK £800 for two weeks in November into December.
So I'm hanging out hoping it might go down slightly.
Last time I was there on my own I ended up being a quad
explorer. On my own which is.
Awesome. It's lots.
Of hikes my bags in the back and it's like this great big SUV.
It's great. I think I tend to go for like
Group G, which is like the the rare full level.
So yeah, moderate SUV size. Moderate intermediate SUV, isn't
it? Yeah.
That pays the other choice and it's not hugely expensive and I
have that freedom, you know, I'm not paying parking, I'm not, you
know, all of that stuff. So you can absolutely do it
without a car though, John, And I think if you're not planning
to go to the supermarket or whether you get your groceries
delivered to the hotel, whatever it looks like you, it's totally
easy to do without if you're staying on site, I think.
And I think it's working out what your trip is because when
it's such a sure one. We did an 8 nights a few years
ago, it was 2019 and we decided to get the dining plan at the
time because we're at annual Kingdom Lodge.
We would worked out that we wanted a quick service.
So it made sense for us to do that.
And it's just I it surprised us when we booked it because then
it had so many DVC points leftover to book this trip and
we had an annual pass. So the tickets were covered and
it was like can we go and do this?
And we did so, and it was incredible.
True makes. Us, I think.
I think lots of people say that the instant reaction, a bit like
you, John, was like, no, it's never enough time, which I think
we all agree, however long you're in Florida for, it's
never enough time. Even if it's five weeks, hey
John, it's never quite enough. But I think it's worth saying
you don't actually complete every, You don't, you can't take
everything off the list. It's not, no, it's not possible.
And actually, that's a, that's a.
That's the wonderful part about it.
I mean, it's not just the parks that's the thing.
It's seriously start looking outside the parks and go, well,
actually I'm going to go out to Winter Garden for lunch or
whatever, you know, just adds on and adds on and adds on.
And I think that's really exciting that there, there's so
many things you can do. It doesn't matter how much time
you are. You know, in the summer when
we're there for 18 days I'm thinking, or 18 nights I'm
thinking, right, I need to drive up to Daytona because I want to
go to Rockies. Sorry.
I've been. I've been I.
Will do the two hour drive each way because I want to go.
I've been, I've been wanting to go for ages and so even if
nobody else comes with me, I'm taking the car.
And I'm going. I.
Love. It I'll.
Give you a shopping list. We're going to Saint Augustine
when we're after we arrive just so we can drop in at bookies as
well. I'm.
Saying lucky. Just great, I love it.
It is, yeah. I'm writing it down By next year
I've. Never been to bass food shop?
I'm going to have to do that. I haven't been there.
Oh, I saw, I saw Rana's photos from there as well.
I just thought, there you go. I've also never been to Waffle
House. And Zach, He's there.
It needs to take. I'm not.
Sure, we all love this. 1:00 We we need to see that.
But you see, if you say to people, oh, I'm going to Florida
for five days, and Florida vacationers from the UK look at
you horrified. They're like, how can you just
go for five days? Isn't it such a long way to go
for five days? People go to people go to
California like Ben and Becca, five days, people go to Vegas
even for even shorter, they go, why is it any different?
And lots of people don't think about that.
Often when I've got a short trip and I tell people they're like,
oh, that's too short. It's such a long way.
My answer is always well. Have you been to New York
before? How long did you spend there?
Three or four nights. Come on, I'm going for five
nights, so. How long is that flight?
It's that sort of thing. It's the same.
Same time from the South, the north of England for an
overnight trip for two nights. From where we are to Cornwall
will take you 7 hours easily. Yeah, yeah, it's my brother's
house, right? So I would rather sit on an
aeroplane for an extra 2 hours and get 4 1/2 thousand miles
away into the sunshine. Thank you very much.
Yes. Well, there we go.
See, I I've just thought. Bethany, we are.
Yeah, I was. I was just about to, yes.
From another Mr. I was just about, I was just about to reply
to that as well. It was just like, yeah, if
you've never, if you've never, if you've never spent time at
Walmart, just just perusing. It's, it's usually better in
August when the when you know the thunderstorms coming in,
make sure you get out the car before the storm starts getting
to Walmart. Feel that feel the whole
building vibrate as the Thunder and lightning is happening and
feel you can feel the rain on the on the roof as well.
But Walmart is a place to just get lost in.
And actually you do get lost to it because.
You do, you spend hours in there.
You go in for two things. Come out with a basketball
shopping. Yeah, Walmart is a landing.
Yeah. But the problem is it doesn't
matter if you're there. It's just like on your own, you
get lost yourself. But there's also the other
problem is if you're there with the family and they go and
they're going. Don't split.
Up, I'm going to going to, I'm just going, I'm going to go and
look for this and like the next thing you know, it's like,
right, OK, we're going to have to phone each other.
We're going to have to phone each other on the way here
because this is just like this is not happening.
We've done that, yeah. Yeah, so I usually get an irate
phone call from Simon at some point.
Like where did you go? Because I'm notorious for
walking off inside. This is but you just don't get
another trolley and just stop filling that up.
We've definitely done that in the past.
Yeah, we are. I think it's I think as well.
I think this is worth worth talking about too, because I
know fine well that I know when both Robin and Claire go it, it
generally is a solo trip. And I know we've done a show
about solo trips, which is why this show actually came into
fruition because it came from the chat from that particular
show of how how short a time could you possibly go?
But actually, it really does mean that you even as a couple
or even as a family, you could actually.
She'll be back. She'll be away at the airport as
we speak. Yeah.
But I think one of the things is if you go as a couple for a
short period of time, does that work?
And I'm I'm looking at yoga and Becca thinking of this because.
I think we've. Shortest.
We've ever done is 7 nights. Yeah, 5 in Disneyland.
Well, five in Disneyland, that's true.
Yeah. Seven in seven in Disney World,
7-8 Universal. Yeah.
And that's where the universe we have plenty of.
Time. Yeah, we have plenty of.
Time I think we have the because we have the epic tickets which
let you go in and out and park frequently.
We have the car so we went off to eat various places that we
hadn't really thought about before which had to scratch the
kitchen. I can't wait to get back.
But yeah, it's really interesting, different dynamic
by going. It was plenty of time.
Yeah, I mean, I have to admit I would have to go for a short
trip. I wouldn't.
I don't think there's there's a minimum.
Ideally I'd like to do 7 nights, but just because you've got the
travel day there and back. Yeah, and then my full days that
the full day in each park and a day for shopping.
But I remember when we do that Christmas trip and we were
literally every day just spending as much time in the
park as possible because we didn't know what it was going to
be like. So going right request as a busy
period. It's it's not like coming in may
like or problem. What was it like when you were
out? Don't, don't.
All this, all all the years I've been going in Maine, it's been
empty. It was not.
It was not the one. It was I've.
Not seen a quiet time at all that.
You know, no, it's, it was very busy.
Simon and I have actually also been for I think the shortest
we've done as a joint trip was 6 nights.
Yeah, and I think agree like you say and I think ours was over
Christmas as well. Our six night trip was over
Christmas. We booked it quite last minute
and that's what the flights we could get.
You have to go like how the the title of the show, how to do
Disney in a dash and you have to go with a plan.
You have to know where you want to go, what you want to see and
have a plan. Have your top few things,
especially if there's a few of you.
Everyone have their top things that they want to see, do or eat
because let's be honest, I'm there for the food.
And then make sure those things are done 1st and then try and
fit in what you can around it because it it will be quick.
And I'm afraid I'm not like Claire.
I can't do 7:00 AM till 10:00 PM at night.
I'm just we're not. We're not the same people do.
You know what we? I don't know whether I still
could anymore. We did.
We did bathrooms. And.
I was able to. I think it's you have the
mentality to do it if that's what your aim is for your trip,
be up early to have a bit of rest in the afternoon or go
back. It's it's doable.
It depends on what you want to do.
How Because I think on that trip we went to a lot of lounges.
So because we it was busy around Christmas, we didn't want and we
didn't want to book Ross dining reservations that would then
take us up park or and be busy. So we decided to just pop to a
lot of lounges, have food there, get a bit of a rest and then go
back into the park. I like that idea.
Then you've got. You're using that as your rest
period, so you're not on your feet constantly.
We went to Steakhouse 71 Lounge because it was just with Magic
Kingdom. We went there.
I think it was on box today, no? We didn't do no mad lounge,
could we? No.
Well, we don't know. No, we didn't know that.
We did did the outside lounge bowling earlier either.
Splitsville. Splitsville.
Yeah. Yes.
Because for my music and we'll kind of work up when we went to
make it. Because we walked into Chuck
Lindsay's and we were stared at by a cast member and told don't
you dare sit there. So we walked out.
Wow. Yes, we told yeah, it yeah.
I was absolutely shocked when I was like, would you go find
somewhere else to act? Wow, that that is interesting.
Yeah. Thank you.
I don't. Have to I?
Found the lead for the computer and plugged herself.
Back no, do you? Think you're on your phone?
I am on my phone because my camera stays on charge all the
time and for some reason today it decided that it didn't want
to charge. So I am on.
My phone but I'm here and back. I can't see any chato so.
So say all you want. Now.
Right. We were just talking about
putting a plan together if you're there for just a short
time and what plan to get together, how best to use it.
So I think there's two schools of thought and that and I'll be
honest with you, when I'm there on my own for a short period of
time, I tend to not plan very. Much.
I might plan, I said earlier. It's kind of plan the days where
I might be because I've got a part a past, so I have to make
part reservation. So I have planned which days and
where. I have got one meal planned
because Anna and Callum and I are going to the Hoop Dee Doo on
Wednesday night. That was our decision to do
that. Other than that, I don't know
where I'm meeting and I don't know what I'm doing.
And I will go wherever I fancy other than I think on Friday I
will be going to Ogre's Cantina with Megan and Chris because
they're around. So other than that, I haven't
really, I haven't really got a plan and I quite like that about
being there for a short period of time, particularly on my own.
It means that I have that flexibility to do whatever I
want. And do you think that's the key?
Don't book too many dining if you're in there for a few days
because it does take a while. Doesn't.
It, I think there's so many different options in terms of
dining that you can totally do lounge dining, quick service.
You know, if you're going to be there for five days and you
decide you're going to do 5 table service meals and you're
taking like, I know dining is quite fast in the US, but you
know, an hour and a half. Every day, unless you go to Yak
and Yeti and you sit there for three hours and 15 minutes.
Yeah, I wouldn't have sat there but three hours.
But yeah, I think if you're going to do lots of table
service dining, that's probably not.
The best use of your time. Unless that's the thing that you
love and then maybe it is. So I don't know.
For me it doesn't, it doesn't make or break my trip.
I think I'd probably do quick, grab a snack, go to lounges,
drinking a drinking a drinking an appetizer and I'm good.
So it means that I can maximize the time that I've got available
to do other things. Nice, make sense?
That was what we found on our short trips.
Well, we kind of knew it which parks were going to be in and
then we'd find something other than them and.
When we were in Disneyland last year, it was, we hadn't been
there before. We yes, you did your research.
We tried to look into, but we focused on just having lots of
quick service food so we could spend a lot of time in the park.
And we're, we set aside, we're only a 15 minute walk away from
the park. So it we did that first.
There's McDonald's conveniently located across history, but that
was handy. I have been there a bread.
Yeah. It was good.
It was, but it was just something that we didn't even
think about and we're feeling so different to all Disney World
where you've got, it's such a vast resort.
I found it a lot easy. So just dip in and out of the
parks and go to Seoul and. Just.
Go and grab food and just try. And we did have Lightning Lane
while we were there because we weren't sure, because we knew it
was a short trip. We wasn't sure when we're going
to go back to Disneyland. We wanted to make sure we could
get on all of the attractions and I think we find that even
when Disney World that there's always a certain point in the
trip way. If we haven't managed to get on
the ride, we might buy Lightning Lane on its last day.
On the last day we're in that Part I.
Was going to say, well, when I was in Disneyland this last week
weekend, we did buy Lightning Lane for two of the days.
So I was there for three full days and then sort of two half
days and two of the days we bought, we bought Lightning Lane
and we made made good use of them.
I think in my experience of them, they seem to work better
in Disneyland, I think because less people buy them.
So you can actually get on quite a few rides, whereas I finally
sell out a lot of the Walt Disney World ones.
So it was, it was handy. And yeah, I think we bought it
was Saturday and Sunday because it was the weekend.
And so it was a bit busier. So we bought the Lightning Lane
and you know, if you're there for such a short time, you don't
mind spending it to try and ensure you get on the rides.
If you're, I mean, I'm in the same boat as Claire.
I'm very fortunate. I go to Walt Disney World
enough. I have an annual pass.
So if I don't get on a ride there, I'll go on it next time.
I'll see you next time. I'll I'll do that next time.
Whereas Disneyland, obviously, I don't do that all the time.
I was there with a friend who kindly gifted me some tickets so
we were making the most of of being able to go on everything
while I was there. So, but I do think it's worth
thinking about if you are on a short trip and you want to try
and maximize your time and you don't want to spend the time in
in queue lines, I think trying to get on, get on and as many
rides or see as many shows as you can.
I think Lightning Lane has its place if it's not crazy
expensive. Yeah.
And I think if you're only buying it for one person then
it's much cheaper as well. Yeah, or I mean, to be fair,
even only two it wasn't expensive.
No, and it that's the thing. It's sort of time, classes,
money and and because you're going to shorten time, I won't
get the Christmas trip we budgeted for like we might need
to buy it every day. Luckily it was it was cold and
we didn't have to. All the locals will stay in LA.
Right. And anytime that you wanted.
To and because it was cold. And it's only one is B and AQ.
It's like good. It's cold cold now.
But like the summer when you don't mind queuing up because
they've got AC inside, Yeah. Have you got any other top tips
you think Claire for for going in a short term because I feel
like you've got the most experience.
Yeah, I think probably going and from the UKI try and get the the
earliest flight out and the latest flight back.
So, you know, I know that Virgin Fly 8805 or something ridiculous
like that. Morning, which is.
That's that's early and it's really early the food you you
get. Doesn't it?
No, you're having lunch at like 10:00 AM.
Yeah, yeah, 10 AM. No.
Thank you. That was.
Me. Apparently you can order a fruit
plate. Yeah.
Oh. Yeah.
No, no. Meal deal, but you get there at
lunch time so you know you're landing in 12:30 so that's that
actually gives you half, you know, most of your day extra.
I I felt like I had a whole extra full day.
Yeah, I really did. That was.
Time I got to the hotel, I decided to have something to eat
so I was hungry and then I forced myself to have a nap
because I thought if I I was seeing friends that evening.
So I forced myself to have an hour's nap.
It was not the most the best nap of my life, but I forced myself
to do it and it meant I was up till midnight.
Yeah, there was extra magic hours and I made it so.
I think Anna and Callum were on the same time flight as you and
they had exactly the same. They got to the hotel at like
132 o'clock and then they went to the supermarket and they did
stuff and then they went to a party and leaving.
And I think that, you know, getting the early flight.
So I'm flying on Monday at 10:30 because I'm going BA.
So I arrive at like 3:30 and my flight back on Saturday night is
at 9:00. So I've actually got all of
Saturday. So I, I think there are ways you
can maximize your time just in terms of your decision making in
terms of flights, also transfers.
You know, if you want to wait for me as connect, you can.
If you want to get an Uber, it's probably going to be a little
bit quicker, might be a bit more expensive, but also to, to check
park hours as well. So obviously I'm staying at a
deluxe resort next week. So I've got a couple of nights
where I've got late night hours in, in Epcot and in Magic
Kingdom during the week. And I will try and use them if I
possibly can just to give me those extra few moments to
perhaps stay, stay up later in the evening where there's
perhaps lower crowds and then use the daytime hours when it's
a bit busier potentially to do some other stuff like go
shopping or whatever I need to do.
So I think I think there are ways to maximize the opportunity
you have while you're there and alongside, you know, not not
having like loads of Adls for sit down restaurant tables,
those restaurants and things like that.
And also to check the wait times for stuff.
You know, don't I choose not to do things like frozen ever after
because the the queue is always long and I don't necessarily
think that the payoff is worth it.
So I think it it sometimes they're off, you know, single
rider lines, you know, places like Everest.
I think they've probably said that in.
Is that what Morgan's just said in the year?
Yeah, it was basically, yeah. And I know she's going on on a
solo trip, but actually I know if if you if you go in for a
short period of time and you want to avoid pay for a
lightning light and etcetera. Yeah.
Split up.
Split up with it you. Know leave the rest of your
family somewhere else or go soon.
Sorry, but. Some, you know, but sometimes,
sometimes you have to end go in the yeah, in the in the same
and. Car.
Yeah, yeah, we've done. Everyone's on test chat at all.
Yeah. And if you've.
Got kids? It's not quite as easy as that.
But if you're if you're adults and you don't mind not sitting
next to each other. Oh, it's quite nice getting rid
of the kids for a bit. Depends how old they are.
Someone else have to put up with them as they as they go for
another, and those are one of those magical photos doing
something absolutely stupid when you think they're.
Not mine. You pretend they're.
All yours but. Rightly so there are single
rider lines for test track or Everest for Ryze for smugglers
run. Sometimes they open it up for
Rastubi. And so I think you know, there
are there are opportunities to economize in terms of wait times
as well, which. Is which is quite good and if it
rains make sure you stay in the park when everyone leaves
because you'll get on everything going shelter somewhere.
For a minute, yeah. Yeah.
I think that's a really good thing.
If you're there for a short period of time, it's like just
don't, don't even don't even think about giving up part time
because it's raining. Don't be British about it.
Let's see it out. Because actually what you will
find, like you said, Robin, the queue lines absolutely plummet.
And if it's in that sort of that questionable time of the day,
you know, from about 5:00 till 7, what you tend to find is that
people just say, tell you what, let's go out and let's let's
leave the park and let's go and find, go find something to eat
out with the back. Let's work.
I'm not stuck something out for this.
And suddenly you're in you're in a position where you're just
like, well, brilliant. Yeah.
Everything becomes a walk on. And you just like, how's that
happened? Absolutely.
I think there is something to say about.
Also maximizing your time in the park.
So, you know, I do. I do like an early morning.
I know, Robin, that's not your favorite time.
Day, particularly on a short trip.
If you, you know. You aren't going to have that
time to acclimatize to the new time zone if you're travelling
across time dates. And I actually, I, I take, I use
that to my advantage. So actually it means that I am
up early in the morning every day of that five day trip.
And I haven't, haven't reverted to US time, which is, which
means that I'm sort of waking up at nine, 10:00 in the morning by
the end of a two week trip. Often you feel sort of you're,
you're bad, you're in the US. Mode, yeah.
Where you know, for the first few days you're not and I, I
kind of use that to my advantage in almost stay on UK time.
So I'm getting up early and going to the parks early yes, I
stay late in the evening as well, but that means that when I
get home to I don't feel as jet lagged when I get home as well
because I haven't made that shift.
And so I. That's a real big advantage that
we're probably going. For that show, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't feel it. Yeah, I was.
I was talking somewhere over the weekend about this because, and
embarrassingly, I got Florida. I actually exist primarily on
Florida time for all the time because that's the way I am.
You know, I feel like you and Robert you.
Say that everyone says I'm on Florida time.
Yeah, I don't like early mornings.
However I turn up in Orlando and the very first day we're there,
you will guarantee I will be up at 5:00 AM.
Yeah, I, I will be wide. Awake.
That's because we're big kids, John, that are just too excited.
To sleep, it's. Like Christmas.
It's like Christmas morning. Yeah, but every morning, every
morning in Florida, it feels like that.
And then suddenly. Oh no, I acclimatise as the
week. Goes, no, I get, I get now it
generally, I can generally last a good couple of weeks for me
and then suddenly you find. And you can.
You can. You can.
Sleep in. Yeah, Yeah.
I think it's what watches watching, watching late night
American TV and stuff like that, I know you suddenly realise.
When you stayed up late enough to watch Jimmy.
Fallon, you know that you're. Probably.
Back up next time I've fellas. I've fallen asleep watching that
many a time. And I think.
I think for me, when I get home it does.
I think that's probably the first question that makes people
ask me. And they say, what are you
doing? I say I'm going to Orlando.
They say, how long you going for?
I'm like 5 nights. They go, Oh my goodness, don't
you? How do you manage the jet bag?
And I say, actually it isn't an issue because I'm not going for
long enough for my body to change.
I keep my body clock very much in UK time.
I'll get up early. I'll make the most of that for
you to feel early morning sunshine.
And yeah, I stay up late and then I sleep on, you know, sleep
for six hours and I'm not going to go up again.
And that for my body clock that works for some people who need
910 hours of sleep, it might not work, you know, but for me it
does. It does seem to to be OK.
And I've sort of got into a routine now of how I manage
that. And I don't have a problem.
When I come home, I usually pick my car up, drive home, I feel
fine, spend the day and then go to bed at normal time and I'm
back up and off to work the next day usually.
So I don't I I don't think it's an issue.
I was going to say, with a short trip we did.
We did Disneyland last year and after when we off flight, we
didn't get back into K to 5:00 PM, so it's fine.
We drove home and it was bedtime.
Yeah. So I went to bed, woke up and I
was like, oh, fine. The next day.
It was because of those five days we didn't really
acclimatize to being on the West Coast.
Yeah, I think this. Does make a difference if you,
if you try to say sort of, you know, certainly on the three day
trip, I definitely didn't do any sort of move across to the US
time. And I think when I've been to
New York as well, we've, we've sort of done the daytime flight
back as well. So there's a flight that goes
from New York to London, which is 8:00 AM.
So you fly through the day, which is in some ways it was a
waste of a day. But actually you get home and
then you get, you know, drive home, go to bed and it's normal.
It's a normal day. So it doesn't feel so bad.
I, I find California, they have and I, we nearly always go for
the last flight of the Dane, which is at like 11:00 PM at
night. So yes, you fly through the
night, but no one who sleeps well on the plane.
No one. But we get in at like 5:00 PM UK
time. So by the time you get home,
unpack. If you're Taipei type person
like me, I unpack straight away, put the washing on, put the
washing on, have something to eat.
You sit on the sofa and you just like feel your eyes going.
It's bedtime. So I actually find it easier
coming home from California than I do from Orlando because
Orlando, you always arrive in the morning and then you've got
to try and stay awake all day or have a danger nap, which I know
it comes out. I don't wait, wait.
It's yeah, it's easy to do and you regret it the following day.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely do.
And I think, you know, when Millie was smaller and she had
jet bag, it was always that danger zone that go to bed at
normal time and then she'd wake up three hours later for her
second wind. Still sleep, don't they?
Whereas I think now she's a little bit older.
When we went in February, he came back and she just got up
and she got on with it and she was back to school the next day
and it was fine. So I think if you try not to
change your body clock too much, that really does work now and
eat decent food. You know, I think if you go for
five nights and you're going to just eat beige food the whole
time, that's probably not going to I try and make sure that it.
Well, that if you go for two weeks and eat beige food.
So don't. Really.
If you eat. Beige food most of the time
anyway. Oh it doesn't matter.
But if you, if you, if you go and change your diet
significantly, put it like that for a period of time, you might
not feel as well as you you would normally.
So I think there's something to be said about good nutrition as
well. Yeah, Yeah, I think I've.
Just seen Aaron's comment about leaving bags five to seven
business days before it unpacked.
I couldn't have one. Now I never my bags are fully
unpacked do. You do you have a bag of my
shining new stuff out of them. Sorry Becca, say that again.
And I want to get all my shiny new stuff out of my.
And all my dirty underwear. It's sweating in Orlando, right?
Away. Do the washing before you bring
it home. I'm staying at Old Key West and
I fully intend to do a washing load before I bring it home to
come and clean. On a 5 day trip?
Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
I'm not wasting 2 1/2 hours of my life washing and drying.
No it's not going to happen. Good.
I like that for you though if that makes you happy.
But on a longer trip I do usually do my washing and if I'm
staying with a friend or if I'm in a larger unit with it's got a
washer and dryer in it. I come home with everything's
clean apart from the last days worth of stuff which I love.
But I was in Disneyland for five days.
Everything was dirty. Everything I had.
I had three pairs of clean underwear, which I clearly
hadn't got through. That was it.
Everything else went in the washer.
When I got home. I'm.
Trying to think of other things that I do when I'm on a short
trip, I think not quite too much, make a rough guess of
where which park I want to be in and also be prepared to change
things up. So if I'm so certainly in
December, I was there. I went to Hollywood Studios one
day and it was absolutely heaving, like ridiculously busy.
So much so that I'd been in the park for about 2 1/2 hours and I
haven't got a single attraction because every line I looked at,
I was like, I'm not doing that. I'm not waiting there, I'm not
waiting there. So I grabbed some food and then
I was like, do you know what? I'm out, I'm going to walk.
So I walked over to Epcot and had a nice little walk along the
lakes. I threw the boardwalk and got,
you know, 20 minutes later I was in Epcot and it was much nicer
experience. And so I think for me, knowing
that if I want to change the plans, I can and it doesn't
matter. And I think that's a good idea
for any trip, to be honest. I would say.
Really rigid about your plan and
even if it's unbearably hot or it's you know that the lines are
ridiculous and apart. Just just go.
You know what, let's change it. It's OK.
No one, no one's going to tell you off the change in your plan.
So what do you think, John? Have we convinced you you can
survive on a shorter trip? I think, I think it's, it's no
different than going for five weeks.
Yeah, correct. And I and I think that's that's
the key thing. You know, I've had an invite to
go to Rome in November for a weekend.
And for me, that's creating more of an issue than it would be
going to War One though, for a weekend, because actually it's
that unknown part of it, at least in the in the most, you
know what you're walking into when you you walk into Orlando
airport. You know, the places that you
want to go, that you know, the places that you're going to go
and eat. You know exactly how everything
kind of works. And so that unknown part of it
isn't there. And yet going, you know, just
even the thought of booking a Ryanair, for me, it's, it's just
I think. That's an interesting point,
John. There is something about
familiarity. And obviously I think if you
were going for your first ever trip, I think five nights might
feel really short and it might might not be very satisfying.
You might get there and think you've just like sketched around
the edges of things and you didn't really interference
anything and therefore you come away feeling a bit dissatisfied.
But I think if you've been before and you kind of know a
what you like, which attractions you might or might not want to
do, places you want to grab some food or snacks that you've been
yearning for while you've been at home, whether that be, you
know, a Margarita or what a what or whatever it looks like.
I think if you if you kind of have that familiarity around
Walt Disney World, then going for five nights isn't an issue.
But just like you say, if you're going somewhere for the first
time, that shortness of the trip might add pressure that's
unnecessary. Yeah.
I think as well. I think.
And it's expensive. Yeah.
And you would, you would come home if it was your first trip
and you'd go, oh, my word, I was totally overruled.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I think it wouldn't, it wouldn't leave you with that,
that whole feeling of, of being able to breathe the whole thing
in. And actually then I think
you're. Actually the tickets you've
spent like a 2 day ticket or seven day ticket.
It's one of those things that actually you're going to do five
nights. You're better off getting better
value with the US ticket. Depends on what I often maybe
not that it's. I've never touched that many
times, yeah. And that, that's why the balance
is and that's why a lot of us do tend to go for a 14 day trip
because there's so much to do in Orlando and Disney and Universal
and SeaWorld and everything else all in the area.
There's so much to try and fit in.
I remember our honeymoon, our first trip, it was like we had
the tickets for everything. We didn't the barely scratched
the surface. Yeah, that that was that was our
honeymoon, too. I've been before.
But Simon, I think I ran in ragged trying to do everything.
Wow. Good to get him in the mood
right away. Yeah, well, he was hooked.
He was hooked. It was his choice, actually,
believe it or not, I wanted to go to the Bahamas and he wanted
to go to Florida. And I think it's because I'd
been before and he'd heard how how great it was.
And he I I gave in and said, OK, we'll go there then.
I mean, it wasn't exactly hardship for me.
I get to go to Florida. Yeah.
So he and he loved it. Luckily I turned him into a
Disney adult without really too much effort.
Well, thanks everyone for the great chat tonight.
Hopefully if you've been listening, we might have
convinced you that a shorter trip is possible.
If you've only got 5 days and you can't make it 714 or
whatever, is it possible? Well, hopefully we've shown you
that it is. So thanks everyone that's joined
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