Welcome to Movie Bread Club. A podcast where we review and
chat about movies. Without spoilers.
It's Oscars week, and on this special episode of Movie Bread
Club, we're going to be speaking about Hollywood's biggest
nights, including our predictions for who we want to
win versus who we think will win surprise nominations, and those
that somehow didn't make the cut.
So grab your ballots as we get ready for the 2026 Academy
Awards. I'm Lee Casey.
I'm Jen Jones. And I'm on Bashar.
This is movie Bread Club. So excited for Sunday,
everybody. Yeah, it's here.
Here it is. It's.
The time. Are you talking about Mother's
Day? That.
That too. That too.
Hang on, let's not forget the mothers in all the Oscars
excitement. We love the mothers.
Please don't forget the mothers. I do love a mother.
But yes, Oscars on Sunday. Do you wait all year for this
day? I do wait all year for this day
cause for me Oscars is I put on a par with Christmas.
Actually, I love it. It is definitely a highlight of
the year and I'll tell you why it's highlight of the year.
It's one of those days. Well, I tell my whole family I'm
doing this this day, and it doesn't really involve you.
Even on Mother's Day, on Mother. 'S day I'm going to see it all
days. Just to remind everyone
listening, Anna has got three children and a loving wife.
But she's great. But sure.
But not that day. And not that day she.
Can sort herself out. I've been staying up all night
to watch the Oscars since I was about 131415.
I mean, I know that's a big range, but. 161718.
And most of the time I've been told I'm completely nuts, I'm
completely mad and usually been doing it on my own.
But since the advent of the NBC, it's it's good to have you guys
with. Me, You found your tribe because
we also like staying up all night to watch people get
awards. And you've told us in a previous
episode that used to have massive Oscar parties.
Big Oscars parties the day after we'd watch it recorded on VHS
and it was brilliant. I didn't stay up when I was
young, I always looked for the results the next morning.
But I always liked it because but the build up of the amount
of amazing films all coming out, do you always knew like, OK,
it's coming. Yeah, it's a really exciting
time in the cinema, isn't it? Kind of just after Christmas
when you get Oscar season. You get rid of all those summer
blockbusters, Yeah, they start dripping in around September.
Yeah, which is a surprise this year, right, because sinners
came out earlier on in 2025. Sinners.
Was that I saw sinners in May? When the nominations came out, I
was like, oh, yeah, what a great film.
But before we talk about those, should we talk about what we're
doing on the Sunday evening for the Oscars?
So. Exciting.
So exciting. So for the last few years I've
been hosting. So we basically sit around and
scream at the screen for about four hours.
We get our Oscar ballot. So what you can do?
Go online. You can type in Oscars 2026
printable ballot. I have to say my favorite one is
usually comes from the Vanity Fair I.
Was going to say we normally have the Vanity Fair.
Well, don't we at your party? How posh?
How? Posh.
That's my favorite one. It has all the categories on
there, every nominee listed out, and it's a great way of noting
your predictions, sharing them with your friends and doing what
we're going to do, which is fill in our predictions before the
show starts. Then it's going to be like, who
got this? Who got that?
Keeps you awake the whole night because at the end of there's
something to achieve. Our good friend of the pod
cursed. She designed our NBC Oscars
trophy. That's the NBC trophy in the
room right now. We'll put that on in.
Because on won last year, I've got video of on receiving the
NBC trophy and you just please as punch.
You look so happy AF, smug AF and please just punch.
That's the. Kelsey Prize, The Guy that knows
film won the film award. No, it's I didn't win the
previous year and actually most of the time I don't win because
you can never know what's going to happen.
No, when Jen pops this on Instagram is the actual trophy.
It is in fact a croissant and a bread twist of some kind.
It is not a golden dog poo. Just to be clear.
Yeah, something to behold. It is something well designed,
Kirsty, thank you very much. It is.
Beautiful. But last year, I decided to
dress up as my favorite best actress nominee, which was Demi
Moore in the Substance, and I came as Monstro.
What's she called? Monstro?
Elisa Sue I. Have no idea she's called.
Yes, she actually got a character name.
Yes. No, she's called Monstro Elisa.
Revelation I did. Not know, I did not know.
I know that's her character name.
So I came as her and really enjoyed putting outfit together.
So I'm pleased to say that this year I'm also coming dressed as
one of my favorite Best Actress nominees, but you'll have to
wait and see. You have to find out.
You'll have to wait and. See, even we don't know.
Even you don't know when. Are you going to post that?
On the night, on the night I'm going to do a get ready with me,
real get ready with me to come to the Oscars party dressed as
Blank. OK, so if you don't want to miss
what Jen is wearing on Oscar night, make sure you're
following at Movie Bread Club on Instagram, right?
So she'll get into it. Let's get into it.
I'm excited. So just to make it easier on
everyone, we're not going to go through every single category
today. I just want to do a massive
shout out first of all to all those nominees in the animated
short, live action short, and documentary short.
To be an Oscar nominee for a a piece of short work I think is
amazing. We're not going to talk about
everything on the ballot in today's episode, but we wanted
to say huge congratulations to every single person and team and
film that's been nominated because what an achievement just
to be in that in that company. Amazing.
Achievement. Yeah, brilliant.
Especially Cos there's a new category this year, isn't there
on. There is.
So it's one for the books, I suppose.
One for the history books. Yeah.
Best casting now I think this is really interesting.
I think it's brilliant they've added this.
Just to let you know, the nominees for best casting are
Hamnet, Marty, Supreme, 1, Battle After Another, The Secret
Agent, and Sinners. So anything jump out of there
for you guys? For me, one battle after
another, just the supporting cast alone and all intense and
amazing performances. I agree 1 battle after another
was amazing. The cast were incredible.
I think Hamlet was a really impressive cast.
Obviously Jessie Buckley's up for leading actress, but I'd say
the supporting cast of Hamlet were really impressive.
So there was obviously Jacoby Dupe who played young Hamlet was
incredible, and Emily Watson was really good at Hamlet as well.
Just really good supporting performances all round.
I think this was really awarding the casting director, so it's
the choices they made and how they found these people.
So I can see what you mean about 1 Battle After Another.
And Hamnit, I can see what you're going there because
finding those kids must have been a feat on its own.
And just the kids in it are so good as well, aren't they?
And Hamnit is so good. But I have to say my pick for
that one is Marty Supreme, because.
I wonder if this is going to be a recurring theme.
Yeah. All of those tiny bit parts, all
the guys behind the counter and the waiters and the small parts.
Yeah, I thought it's insane. That was brilliant.
And also as safety bringing people that aren't actors
actresses Kevin Garnett in uncut James Tyler the.
Creator and they and they use all these characters to tell the
story in a better way. And I think, yeah, that's my
pick. Then there's the what I would
like to call the artistic. This would be production design,
costume design and makeup and hair styling.
And I think these are more like the Crafty Awards.
Yeah. The hands on kind of creative
sort of stuff. These are all about what a film
looks like. Production design, really about
set decorating and sets. Costume design.
Easy one. Yeah.
What you're all wearing. Yeah.
And makeup and hair styling. But that can also feed its way
into almost prosthetics and special effects makeup.
Absolutely. And just while we're talking
about this, I'm just going to mention again, I mentioned it in
Episode 1. I'm really surprise Wicked isn't
in wicked too for good isn't in this.
You're right, actually, because the production design, the sets
for Wicked, the costumes were incredible, the makeup and hair
signing was incredible. But all of these kind of crafty
categories, as you call them, Wicked was featured and I think
it won a fair few as well. I mean, maybe that's do you
think that's why the sequel isn't here?
Because do you think it's already had its due?
Yeah, maybe that's why I. Remember when Lord of the Rings
was nominated it kind of missed out on quite a few things.
And then when Return of the King was out, it was almost like they
were awarded that's whole trilogy.
I think the one that you can see as a constant is Frankenstein.
It looks incredible how they make the creature, what they
wear of the time and the set designs and everything around
the visual aspect of the film is incredible.
My confession is I haven't actually seen Frankenstein.
What? What?
Sorry. Special guest on today's show,
Frankenstein's Monster. It's because I know it's Netflix
and I'm like, yeah, I'll throw that one in at the last minute.
Don't worry, it'll be on my ballot.
I will watch it beforehand. But you know, I'm going to say I
think I quite like my Supreme again.
As you know, Marty Supreme not my favorite film of the year.
I love the costumes in Marty Supreme and the production
design. I thought it was really, really
good. I'd quite like to see Marty
Supreme take the costume design price.
Also for me sinners, oh. Yes.
I thought they the take on the era of that time and the culture
and then the outcome of that film was so wonderfully stylised
in that sort of sense. And obviously there's a a really
great scene in that where they go through certain eras and it's
super clever how they brought it all together.
Look out for that one. I think I completely agree.
I mean, Sinners is the most nominated film in Oscar's
history, right? It's got.
Scene nomination. Good fact.
You just slipped in there. I just slid it in there.
The most nominated film in history.
Wow. Wow, wow.
Wow, wow, wow, wow. Not this.
Again, wow. Wow.
Wait, stop. But yeah, no great fact.
Most nominated film in Oscars history The films they're not
hugely traditionally Oscar noms, are they?
We're. Going to keep saying noms.
Yeah, I like saying noms, noms, noms nom, nom, nom, nom.
So yeah, so Sinners has got 16 nominations.
What was The Who previously held the title so?
In the past, La La Land, Titanic and All About Eve all had 14
nominations. But yeah, I mean, Sinners
getting 16 is staggering. That's a staggering number of
nominations, isn't it? It's absolutely incredible.
I think it's hit rate though, and I may be proved wrong.
I think it's hit rate, it's going to be a lot lower than
that. I think to get that many
nominations, you have to be achieving on a technical level
as well as story level. I think it works on all of those
levels, but I think might get pipped here and there by other
films. Yeah.
OK, let's move on to things that you listen to, like original
song and original score. Let's.
Talk about those two we should be nominated for Original song
for the Gen. catches up. Theme change.
I'm sure our listeners, yeah. Are listening to that part on
repeat. Not skipping 15 seconds, I mean,
no. Way.
So looking at our original song and original score.
The original song is normally when we have our NBC party, when
we're waiting for the red carpet to start, we put them up on
YouTube on the screen. Don't we all watch them?
And we say, Oh yeah, I mean, obviously we all know Golden
from K pop demon hunters, which has been was stand out I.
Think K pop Demon Hunters on all sorts of levels.
It's quite a standout movie, Yeah.
And if you've been living under a rock this past few months or
if you don't have children. I'm gonna say if you don't have
children. Yeah, K Pop Demon Hunters is
what they've all been talking about singing.
It is just made its way onto every playlist imaginable.
Yeah, for me it's K Pop Demon Hunters Golden on song.
Yeah, special mention again Sin as I lied to you.
What song? That is great.
And we talked about Train Dreams on episode 1.
Yeah. We like that Train Dreams song,
don't. We on score, I think what's
great about score is it set like it really can set the tone of
the film. Yeah and I think that all of
those films mentioned keep the pace of the film.
They keep the tension 1 battle after another the tension that
film is often done by the score. But I think again, for me,
sinners, just because it captures the vibe so well and I
think this is one of the ones that it that will win, I think.
I agree, I think sinners for original score.
I'm gonna have to say justice for Marty Supreme here.
Where is. Where is.
Where is it? The score held the tension, and
it was so new in a kind of original thing to do, mixing
that $0.80 score with that period 50s look.
I thought it worked really well and I'm so gutted it's not
there. But Marty Supreme for Score in a
Box with Jesse Plemons just over here.
We'll have our own Oscars. Don't you worries guys.
Thinking about it, I think maybe that's why they didn't put them
in, because it sort of did conflict.
Maybe. I mean, it added to it for you,
certainly. But even though I loved the
film, it's not I'm going to capture my attention.
What do you think of the Begonia score?
Because I think that one was a really.
Good one. I think that was really good as
well. I really like the score for
Begonia in terms of just ramping up the tension.
I thought it was really good actually.
Do you think we could put together some sort of NBC Oscars
playlist that we could send, that we could send out to
everybody? Oh my goodness.
Yeah, yeah. Definitely.
OK, so. Let's make a Spotify playlist so
you can listen at your leisure and see what you think.
That would be a very useful thing to have at your Oscars
party. It would be a useful thing,
wouldn't it? OK, so every movie starts with a
script screenplay. Oscars, they're bunched into two
categories. That's adapted screenplay.
That's screenplays that are based on some previous work and
original screenplays which have come fresh out of the writers
minds. I always really like it at the
Oscars when they do the screenplay awards and they show
a clip of the film alongside the script and you.
I love that in the Oscars. So you can kind of see what they
were reading on the script and how it's kind of transformed
into the movie. I love that about the Oscars.
I think there's a misconception actually that screenplay just
means dialogue. Oh yeah, it's all the direction
and all the things in that script.
There's so much happening. Yeah, because screenplays aren't
just conversations. They can also be the structure
of the story, how the character arcs work.
I actually read the script for sinners, you know, that
incredible dreamlike scene, and reading the script for that was
amazing, but just painting this picture of what they wanted it
to look like. In words.
Yeah, in words it was. It's really worth finding
reading, actually. You know what you've just done?
You've just opened up a moment in Sinners where I was like, Oh
my God, that was so. That was awesome, wasn't it it?
Was really good. It's like Elsie was saying
earlier, Sinners came out such a long time ago.
I'd really like to watch it again before the Oscars because
it's it's so nominated and like talking about it.
When you talk, you know, you talk about the score.
It's like, oh, I remember liking the score.
But I'd really like to watch it again with like through the lens
of like it's nominated for this and this.
So that's what I really want to concentrate on.
Yeah, we got. Some last minute Oscar homework
to do. Yeah.
Adapted screenplay? I didn't realise Begonia was an
adapted screenplay. No, I didn't.
Either so batshit crazy you'd think.
Who thought of that first? Yeah, absolutely.
Obviously we talked about Train Dreams in episode 1, but I
didn't realise it was in for adapted screenplay and now it
makes sense with the narrator and we talked about it felt like
someone was reading a story book to us.
Yeah, and actually that would be my pick because I really like
that film so much. And I thought the way they
delivered what is now, obviously something's been written first
into that visual representation where actually there isn't a lot
of dialogue, as we talked about last time, is incredible.
And I'm actually also surprised that one battle after another is
is an adapter. Is an adapted yes.
So any any pics in there on original screenplay before we
move on? Seeing as suddenly found that
there is a consistent thing going with me too.
Yes, there is. I'm.
Going to I'm going to sinners as well of.
Course I'm going to see Marley Supreme.
I really like Marley Supreme. Sinners definitely would be my
second shout adapted screenplay I think.
Begonia I'm. Going to go train dreams.
I'm going begonia for. Begonia.
You know, it's one of those though.
For me, it's like I want train dreams to win and maybe I would
pick Begonia or Hamnet. I'd like to see Train Dreams win
something because it's such a good film.
Although, I mean, I don't want to jump ahead of myself, but I
see that it's also nominated in cinematography.
Sorry, was that a slick segue And I?
Think that's the slickest thing we've ever done?
Really. Yeah, it is a natural.
Segue. It was a lovely segue.
How did that come from evil people?
The least look person you've ever met.
So cinematography, this is the category that awards the
director of photography. Now director of photography is
obviously all about the image. It's about cameras, lighting,
but really what I'm looking for in this category is a director
photography that is using all these tools to tell the story.
So in cinematography, we have Frankenstein, Martin Supreme, 1,
Battle After Another, Sinners and Train Dreams.
What were you about to say about Train Dreams?
I was just going to say it's a very strong category.
That isn't it. That's a really strong category
for cinematography. I'd love to see Train Dreams win
because I thought the cinematography and Train Dreams
was incredible, like absolutely beautiful.
I think Marty's going to take it though.
I think my pick is 1 battle after another for the epic
action scene nearer to the end of the film.
I think that's going to draw a lot of attention or would have
already drawn a lot of attention.
But train dreams we talked about in episode 1 against sinners.
For me, I mean, even Frankenstein is incredible.
Why don't you just name all of them?
You know, yeah. So yeah.
And then? I think I think you'll probably
give yourself safe bet there just.
Split the Oscar into five pieces and.
Everybody wins, everybody gets a prize.
It's only fair. I think 1 battle after the
other. I think between 1 Battle after
another and Marty Supreme. I love the way my Supreme look,
but for technical prowess, 1 battle after another.
Do you know they shot that in what's called Vista Vision?
It's a bit of a film's plane coming up, kids, no?
Please. Because of your seatbelts.
Listen, I know that it's Vista Vision and I, I knew that.
And my, I went to see one battle after with my dad and he was
like, oh, it's filmed in Vista Vision.
I was like, Bob, this means nothing to me.
I don't know what that means. So you can tell me what it
means. Yeah.
Well, the twist here is that you have taken pictures in Vista
Vision yourself. 35 millimetre film normally goes vertically
through the camera, 24 frames per second.
Now what fist division does is it turns that film on its side.
Now you can get a frame that's much bigger, and this is the
same size frame that you're probably used to getting your
negatives on back in the day, because when you take still
pictures on 35 millimetre, they come horizontally.
So imagine the film whizzing through the camera 24 frames a
second, taking those pictures on its side.
So it gives you a much bigger resolution.
It has different qualities in terms of depth and things like
that, and it's very much becoming a popular format now
for a lot of film makers. I think very recently the
Brutalist was filmed in Vista Vision and also Wuthering
Heights. So a lot of directors are
turning to this format because it's quite fun to use.
But it what it also does, it turns to that film reel on its
side, makes the camera quite big and bulky.
And to do the action scene in one battle after another and
loads moving shots in that movie, in fact, must have been
quite a technical feat. OK, before we get to the big
ones, I was going to quick nod film editing again.
I'm going to say mighty supreme. F1, it's a bit of an outsider,
but the film itself was great and the editing and obviously
it's up for sound as well. Those two, yeah, you're really
in it, it feels. It's such a great action film.
There's two aspects to editing though, again, which I never
really know which side to fall on because there's the technical
side. So F1 quick cuts, using every
single microsecond to put you into the into the feeling.
But then also editing is about storytelling as well.
So it's sometimes about how you structure the movie.
Sometimes at times they even say the editing process is like the
final draft of the screenplay. Marty Supreme shouldn't be
nominated for film editing. Why?
Because it was so long and so, so long.
They needed to get a machete and just chop large segments of that
film and throw them in the bin. Not to.
I don't want to be dramatic, but just throw some of it in the bin
and everyone would have had a better time.
We're supposed to be positive vibes on you guys.
Positive vibes I. Don't have been dramatic.
We're my big machete. That's why I'm not a film
editor, because I would be there with a reel of film.
But. Again, that's another
misconception, though. It's like, oh, film editing.
How much did you, how short did you make the movie?
Yeah, I think it's how you flow through it.
That's true, but I didn't like the flow of.
I mean, I've discussed this in depth on our review of Marty
Supreme, but I had a problem with all the subplots in Marty
Supreme and they could have lost a bit, but I think I'd probably
go for thinners, I think. Sinners for editing.
Sinners for editing is very good.
It's a it's so tough, isn't it? There are there are so many
good. You know what you I think?
Oh no, I'm I'm looking back over the fence and I'm looking on
like and I just because. Of that what you're.
Hearing in the fence, Incredible.
I think I've said incredible 55 times.
It's. Such a strong.
Year. No, I'm sticking with it.
I'm sticking with the F1. I've already ticked the box.
It's done guys. I'm in.
I really like this year in the Oscars that there's it's such a
strong year for film and there's not kind of one film, even
though Senators has got so many norms, I don't think there's one
film that kind of dominates and you're like, oh, it's going to
sweep it. It's really hard to call so many
of these categories. Sound in F1 definitely.
I remember coming out of there thinking, wow, this is a this is
pretty good do. You know what I'm surprised
isn't up for Sound warfare. Oh my God.
Warfare. Why isn't warfare in the sound
category? I came out of that film with my
nerves jangling and the sound in that film was so amazing.
It was so well done. It's amazing, there's so many
good films out and I completely forgot about warfare.
Yeah, Warfare came out last. I watched it last April.
It must have been just after the last awards so early in the
season, isn't? It it's been snubbed for every
category. I don't want to use the word
Oscar Beatty, but I think that's quite an Oscar Beatty film
warfare because there were a lot of great performances in there.
It was shocking. Scenes.
Shocking scenes. Yeah.
It was a it was a great film. It's a very piece of film.
Making a true story, right? Yeah, do.
You think it's one of those ones that came out too early?
Yeah, even for the voters of the Oscars.
And they don't remember. It it definitely came out too
early. Don't get me started on weapons.
Oh yeah, let's not go down that road.
Let's not go down that. Road If Warfare had been
released in September, would we be seeing it in all these
categories? And visual effects, surely
that's Avatar, do you think? Do you think that's a shoo?
In F1? A lot of that stuff is created
on a computer. But again, I hate to say, oh,
that scene in Sinners, Yeah. It's so good.
It's stunning. Yeah.
And also, I mean, it comes back as well as what we were saying
before about sequels. I mean, if Avatar did really
well the first time around, is it going to has it kind of
already had it stage? Has anyone seen the lost bus?
Yes, effects wise, good. Wow.
The effects are really harrowing actually in terms of you really
do feel like you're in that wildfire.
But I don't think it really sits above F1 even for me.
But yes, in as that part that just for that part.
Just. So good, like I wanted to get up
and start dancing and the cinema is so good.
OK, so just before we get onto the big six, let's have a quick
look at International Feature, Documentary Feature, and
Animated Feature. Animated feature K Pop Demon
Hunters have been playing on repeat in my house for a year
for the success of that film and the sort of the clamour for the
next one, which I don't think comes out to a 2029 which my
kids. Are like, oh really fired by Oh
my goodness, none of them will care by then they'll be really
teenagers. My oldest is already going like
K pop is so dead. I've heard that it's over.
I've heard it's over. Yeah, I've heard it's deader
than 6-7. That's my third.
I know. There's 2 numbers that we don't.
Repeat. It's over now.
Did you actually glance over their shoulder and watch K pop
team and. Times I watched your way through
I'm. Big fan of it at the cinema.
Yeah, it was. I was brilliant.
I really, really enjoyed it. I It's a great film.
Let's say it's really well deserved.
Yeah. I think I had such a great time
watching that movie. There's a joke, I think, on a
previous Oscar show, and Jack Black's on stage and he comes
on. He goes, well, I take all the
money that I earn and then I bet it on Pixar.
Yeah. For the best animated category,
but I think Pixar is going to be going home empty handed this
year. So Elio, so not a Pixar classic
for me. Elio, it was fine.
Pixar movie shouldn't be fine. You shouldn't go and see a Pixar
movie be like that was fine. That's how I felt after Elio you
shouldn't feel like that. You should be like that was a
life changing experience for me. Is Pixar running out of ideas?
Because they seem to be doing a lot more sequels.
Now we're onto Toy Story 5. Yeah, and I mean, I went to The
Hoppers last night, which is the new Pixar, and I can't help
thinking they a little bit lost their way.
I feel like the successful Pixar movies that everyone knows and
loves, they've got a really simple quest plot line, which is
we need to find Nemo, we need to get back to Andy's room, we need
to get Boo back to her bedrooms. But the recent Pixar films, the
plots are a little bit muddy. They have iconic characters.
Yeah. You how many times you say, oh,
I'm like Dory. Characters that you really fall
in love with. Like, what is that?
Yeah, I have faith I'll get it back.
But. Yeah, for international feature
this year, they've kind of potentially given the winner
away out of choice, A or B. It seems like two of those
nominees, Sentimental Value and The Secret Agent, being in the
best. Picture category, Yeah.
It feels like one of those. Will probably be the winner.
No. International feature is always
the one where you can just look around on the other categories
and you can spot that one, but there are two.
Yeah, yeah. So.
Yeah, the jury is out. And without further ado, another
fucking thing. Another.
Fucking Jingle. Wait, this is the bit actually,
when you're watching the Oscars. Yeah, You're kind of like, Oh my
God. These are the ones where you're
kind of, you're starting to nod off and then your attention is
like you're like, oh, here we go.
Now we're back in it. Well, actually the big six, but
they normally just tease you into it.
They put the supporting guys at the front.
Yes, they do don't. They they put them earlier on.
Yeah, yeah. Just to say, oh, this is going
to be an acting show. And then they go, ha, ha, we
fooled you. Yeah.
He's documentary short. No disrespect.
No doctor's documentary short, of course, but you know what I
mean. This year we're going to start
with best director strong nominations.
We've got Chloe Zhao for Hamnet, Josh Safdie for Marty Supreme,
Paul Thomas Anderson for one battle after another, Joachim
Tria for sentimental value, and Ryan Coogler for Sinners.
I've always loved Paul Thomas Anderson.
I don't think he has a bad movie, but I've got to say, you
know what I'm going to say, Josh Sefti For Marty, I think it's an
absolute triumph. What he's put together there,
the way he's told the story in so many different types of way
and just the amount of detail and you can just tell it's all
coming from him. He's the standard bearer for
that movie, and for me, that's Marty Supreme.
I'm going to go for one battle after another because I just
think it was excellent. PTA.
It's definitely between those two.
Yeah, well. Is it between those two LC or is
there a third in the mix? Actually between all 5.
That's why they're all nominated.
That works. Thank you for explaining.
I think Ryan Coogler has a really good shout.
I think Paul Thomas Anderson will win, but I want Ryan
Coogler to win so bad. So let's see who is going to be
right come Monday morning. Yeah, who's going to be smug on
Monday morning? Me, yeah.
You're always, but we know you're going to pick and mighty
supreme for every category. Smug and tired.
Let's not forget that Marty Supreme was the most nominated
film in Bafta's history to go home empty handed.
I'm just saying, I'm just drop that in there.
Jesus just saying mic drop boy yo yoing have.
You been bringing that rubber microphone with you again?
Is that rubber microphone in your pocket?
Or? Let's go to Best Supporting
Actor on Would you like to read out the nominees?
In the category of Best Supporting Actor, there is
Benicio Del Toro for one battle after another, Jacob Elodie for
Frankenstein, Delroy Lindo for sinners, Sean Penn for one
battle after another, and Stellan Skarsgard for
sentimental value. Strong category.
It is strong and I've always loved Del Roy Lindo and I wish
him all the best in the future, but Sean Penn?
Sean Penn. Oh.
Absolutely. And you know, I'll I'll forever
be quoting Benicio Del Toro for his part in One Battle after
another. But Sean Penn, his performance
as the villain 1 battle after another, it was just the one.
Was amazing. Definitely.
I'm all on for Sean. I was a bit sad he didn't show
up at the Baftas when he won. But there's always that thing,
the Bafta's not important enough.
Yeah, that's how it comes across.
Leo was there, front row and went home empty handed again.
That was mean. But he always goes home, he
always does. He always goes home up to.
You. We love you, Leo.
We love you. But no, we do love Leo.
We really love Leo. Did you see that clip when
Marlon Brando won best Actor, but he sent a Native American
across to go and pick up his Oscar?
Yeah, what a ledge. I'd love to win an Oscar and
then not pick it up. I'll never.
Do that. I'll go and pick one up for you
on your path if you want. On you want to be on the
Academy, you can't start saying you're not going to turn up to
the shows. Let.
Me rephrase that, I like to be cool enough not to pick up my
Oscar. Next category we have is
supporting actress Jennifer. I knew you were going to ask me
to read these out and so I'm already Googling how to
pronounce the second one. So up for supporting actress
this year at the Oscars is Elf Anik for sentimental value, Inga
IBS daughter Lilias for sentimental value, Amy Madigan
for weapons, Wumi Musaku for sinners, and Tayana Taylor for
one battle after another. I'm grateful to see Tayana
Taylor in there because I think she is good in one battle after
another, but she's not in it for very long and I know that you
don't have to have a lot of screen time to be nominated for
an Oscar. Was it Judi Dench?
Judi Dench, I think. Judi.
Judi was taking the piss. Judi.
Was in it 6 minutes or something?
She did 6 minutes in love. Hardly and it wasn't.
She won an Oscar, didn't she? So you don't need much screen
time to win an Oscar. Still, I'm always quite
surprised when someone pops up who doesn't have loads of screen
times. Or quality rather than quantity
her. Performance was mega powerful.
I thought, yes, you were like, oh wow, she is.
Yeah, she is. Yeah, Yeah.
We will all follow you. Yeah, I think the term is
badass. Yeah, that's definitely the
term. Well, we're happy to see Amy
Madigan as well, getting a yeah quick look in.
She's the one I want to win, really.
Trail of Gladys and weapons. I saw a clip of her doing the
weapons run up to the stage and I think that was for the SAG
actual. Legend.
I don't really have a strong opinion on that one, I've got to
say. So I will do a last minute
decision by sneaking a look at someone else's ballot.
I For me it's Wimi Masaku from Sinners, because she was
brilliant. I think Tiana Taylor if I was
forced force my hand. We are forcing your hand.
That's the whole point of the show, the whole point of the
podcast. I was surprised not to see for
mighty Supreme Adessa Azion, who played the love interest I think
in Marty Supreme and I thought she actually stole a lot of the
show. Should we stick with the girls?
Yeah, stick with the girls. Yeah.
So leading actress. Surely Jessie Buckley Buckley is
Move on. He's.
Probably been the favorite in all awards.
Wait, I think that Jessie. Buckley is probably going to win
it, but I don't think we can discount Emma Stone because the
Academy love Emma Stone and the Academy loves a physical
transformation. They love a physical
transformation. So I'm going to say wild card,
Wild card. I don't think we.
Can sleep on Emma Stone because I would never sleep on.
Emma Stone don't don't use a phone for.
Christ's sake. Ohh my gosh.
Yeah, I like So I I think that everyone thinks that Jessie
Buckley got in the bag, but I think Emma Stone I think has a
chance there. And she's very good in.
Piconia as well they the Academy love Emma Stone they.
I think they have loved her now. She's had her Oscar, hasn't she?
She's got an Oscar already. You can say that she's been.
Recognised already, which she has, but I do think she's really
good in Begonia and I think there's always more.
There's always room for more Emma Stone love.
If I was betting, I would. Probably and we are on Jessie
and we are for a trophy. Yeah, I'm.
Going to go Emma Stone for it. I'm going to go wild card for
Emma Stone. So before we go on to.
Leading actor in the same film, Begonia, Jesse Plemons name is
not on the ballot. Yeah, we talked about that last
time and we're all still very upset.
So let's get into leading actor very strong.
So we have Timothy Chalamet. Chalamet.
Martin. Supreme Leonardo DiCaprio.
For one battle after the other, Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon,
Michael B Jordan for Sinners, and Wagnamora for the secret
agent. I actually saw Blue Moon.
It was very good. It's almost like a play and I
can see why Ethan Hawke has been nominated for this.
He pretty much holds up the whole movie and almost speaks
non-stop. So a good nod to him, but
unfortunately I don't think he's going to get there.
I think it's going to be. Michael B Jordan.
Oh, I would love that. I think it's going to be Michael
B Jordan. Because he is incredible and he
plays two roles. Yeah, he plays Smoke and Sack.
He's both of them, much like Lindsay Lohan in The Parent
Trap. It's a challenging thing to do.
Wait, wait. Am I the first person that's
ever compared Michael B Jordan to Lindsay Lohan?
I think you might be but. I would love him to win and.
So I've got a question about Oscar voting.
But when does the voting close? Because in the last week
Chalamet has come out with some very derogatory comments about
Oscar and ballet and I wonder if that's hurt his chances because
the people still voting for the Oscars now?
Or has the window closed? When when did this all kick off?
Because the voting for the Oscars closed on the 5th of
March. Oh, did it?
Oh, so he's probably. Off the hook, then yes, it was
just afterwards, but they. Could have it can really affect.
Their chances. You have to be on the best baby.
Do you remember Amelia Perez? Oh yeah, that was definitely
years. Ago, Yeah, that whole
controversy that. Really overshadowed and that and
she got it in early that one I. Think if he wins the Oscar it.
Should be presented to him by a ballerina.
Yes, it's very difficult. It's a difficult one, very
difficult. I.
I would love Michael B Jordan to win it because followed his
career since the wire when he played a small part in the first
season of the Wire and any film he's in love watching like he's
so great. But I think it's going to be
Chalamet Chalamet. Well, going to take it are.
We discounting DiCaprio because are we saying that the never
discount cap? No, we never discount, but
don't. You think the?
The Academy Is done with DiCaprio.
I think they're done. Yeah, I.
Don't know if they're done. You can't.
Even say they're done, but while there is other.
Equally good performances there for the amount of time he's been
nominated. The greatest actor of our
generation, right Of our generation.
It's a bold statement. I think he is very bold
statement. It's bold.
But I think there's some. Truth in that?
Actually, he's not the only one, no.
Well, I say the greatest. Well, he's.
One of the greatest. He is the greatest, but yeah, he
could all be great. Well, the kids call everyone
goats. Nowadays, so you can only have
one, I think. Yeah, he's up there for sure.
He's up there and any film he's. In I'll watch.
Do you know what I always just see Leonardo?
DiCaprio. I never see him playing the
character. Do you know what I mean by that?
Yeah. It's like you were talking about
Jesse Plemons, like believing he's because we're a theory.
Just No, I disagree with that, I think.
He can chameleon a little bit. He is always working with the
best directors. He's going from PT Anderson.
He's with Tarantino, Scorsese. Scorsese.
Yeah, Oh my God. God, he's just picking the cream
of the crop. So of course the movies he picks
to be in, they're gonna be good. They're gonna be good.
Yeah, yeah. I think for me though.
Chalamet I would like. Michael.
B Jordan, but got a feeling it might slip over to Chalamet.
I think it's gonna be Michael B Jordan.
I think, I think he's, I think it will be.
I think it will be. I think it will be.
I think there's enough buzz enough.
Yeah, Presenters is nominated for so many awards and it it
might not win in some categories, but I think he will
win and he won and he won. The sag.
Actor award, and I think usually so whoever wins the SAG actor
award, there's some stat around the winner of the Oscar.
So normally wins the SAG or the BAFTA and Chalamet has won
neither. Oh, that's very.
Interesting. Actually, it's interesting.
There's there's usually. It's usually quite a strong
indicator of how the Oscars going to go from looking at
those two. And Chalamet has come home empty
handed from both. He didn't win that.
And I think did Michael B Jordan win the SAG.
Yeah, we are like Oscar detectives.
We are always detectives. No, I'm not going to.
I've done it Elsie me. Did you just start a theme?
Tune Elsie's like a theme tune. You're never hit for me again,
OK? So that brings us to the final
event. Big one, the big one, the big
Huhuna. The best picture where?
Everybody gets a. Nomination, guys.
Hey, did you make a movie? Everyone gets a nomination.
You get a nomination. You get a nomination, you get a
nomination. Nomination and.
Say the nominees for Best picture.
Are Oh, that was like my Oscar. That was my Oscar announcing
voice. You know what?
I actually really. Enjoy reading out these
nominations. I quite enjoy it because it
makes me feel like I'm at the Oscars and I'm on stage or I'm
going to read this in my best Oscars.
Voice you ready? Go for it.
And the nominees? For.
Best picture are Begonia F1 Frankenstein Hamnet Marty
supreme won battle after another the secret agent, sentimental
value sinners and train dreams woo Hoo on what do you reckon
Well, first of all, I'm going to cut half of.
Them off. Oh my gosh, right.
Because you don't. Agree with the 10 category, the
whole. 10 category thing I. Don't agree with it?
So who's in your top five then? Begonia.
Marty Supreme? Really shocker shocker 1 battle
after another. Every time I mention Mart
Supreme, that's what it feels like.
Sinners. Oh God I started to cut 5 but I
don't know what the last one is out of those 40.
I'll give you 1. You don't give.
US1 No, you would put. Hamlet in there.
No, you would put Hamlet in the best picture category.
No, really. Absolutely not.
That's interesting. It's like when the Emperor.
'S not wearing any. Clothes.
You have to say everybody. It's not as.
Good as you think it. Is we know that you could just
cut 9. Yeah, exactly right.
Marty Supreme. For all aforementioned reasons,
it all comes together through acting, through the direction,
through This is it Marty Supreme?
It's a big fish. It's a big fish.
What's your fish? Look like my big fish looks.
Like Sinners, it might be officious.
Like Sinners, I think it's going to be Sinners.
The Best picture category brings together all of these elements,
and Sinners was so strong across so many categories.
And it's got all of these nominations.
And I feel like all of these nominations create the sum of a
best picture, great acting performances, but sometimes
we're in the position. Where the picture is less than
the sum of its parts, it can be great in all sorts of
categories, technically through artistry, through design, all
these separate categories. But the movie, when you go in,
you watch it, you come out, what's the best movie?
And I think that's the way I kind of approach this.
So for me personally. I'd put begonia for Best
Picture. That's why I'd pick.
If I'm choosing, I'd choose begonia because when I go see a
movie, I want to feel something and begonia the whole way
through. I had my mouth open because I
went in blind. I didn't know what it was about.
I enjoyed it so much. I was just on a ride on that
movie. I didn't know what was going to
happen. I didn't know anything about it.
It was brilliant. Sinners.
This is the balance between what I want and what I think.
I think Sinners will win Best Picture.
I would like it to be, but I think it'll be sinners because I
do think it's a really strong film.
It's a strong film. It's a strong film.
And it tells a. It tells a good.
Story. I felt it was a little.
Too long, and that's probably its weakest part.
If they were, if there was a category for best scene, which
there should be, there should. Be there, should be, shouldn't
there? Notes for the Academy.
Notes for the. Academy give sinners.
Best scene. Wouldn't that be amazing if they
had? A best scene category, That
would be good. That would be really.
Good. I think that's.
Worth campaigning? For Justice for Jessie and best
scene, Best scene Oscar campaign.
Things that we want to start, but.
Probably never will. No, no, we're going to.
I'm going to start on Instagram. Immediately.
All right, so I. Really want sinners to win I
think 1 battle after another will but I'm going to go for I'm
going to manifest sinners to win.
I your point about it being too long, I wanted more, more
sinners more of it please. The cast was great.
I thought the sound was great. I thought the sets were great.
The era, the sort of the mood of the film.
Yeah. And I think in this case, some
of its parts is greater. Wow.
OK. And I really think it's, it's
probably my favorite film of the year.
Therefore, I'm gonna go for Sinners.
Yes. Excellent.
Can I just ask? How many begets did you give
sinners? Because I know you go back,
didn't you give Marty? Supreme 4. .5 Baguettes 4.5
Sinners is a. 5A5 And I think I probably give sinners A4.
Yeah, because I I can sometimes I can watch a movie and just
really appreciate the fact that what I'm watching is quite
special. And that's how I felt about
Sinners like it was, I thought it was a really clever film.
I totally appreciate you can have. 5 baguette moments in a
three baguette film. And that's why we need the best
scene. Oscar for exactly that right, we
do oh, let's start let's start coming.
It's so excited now there we. Have it coming.
It's coming so excited, Oh my. Gosh, I'm so excited.
There's a lot to chat about. I feel like the.
Conversation is definitely not over.
Well, the conversation isn't over.
Because on Do you remember what we're doing after the Oscar
finishes? Soon as the Oscars finishes,
what are we doing? Are we going to bed?
Unfortunately, we're not going to bed.
Not like. Normal people?
No. Way.
I mean, the normal people actually went to bed before the
Oscars anyway. They did.
They watch it on Catch Up on Monday.
Evening. But that's not us, losers.
Nice. We're being hardcore.
Not just for. Ourselves, but for our
listeners, we'll be buzzing with excitement.
From the Oscars, I've always I can never sleep after the
Oscars. I'm always so buzzy with
excitement of what I've just seen.
So we're gonna be talking all about it and we'll be having our
reactions to everything that happened, and that's the winners
and the losers, but also any other crazy stuff that's got any
crazy. Crazy stuff always happens.
At the Oscars, doesn't it? We.
Always see a few crazy things and live for the crazy.
I live for the crazy stuff. That's what we're gonna be
talking about as well, the people who pronounce things.
A little bit weirdly, El dazeem. I'm thinking of.
That was a great one. That's my people who read the.
The wrong. Thing out of the envelope Has a
wrong envelope been given? A wrong envelope.
Oh wow, believe that happened. Insulting wives, everything.
Oh my God, it's all going on. And we're gonna talk about all
of it on the NBC Oscars Reaction podcast.
NBC reacts to the. Oscars come and join us then.
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