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Welcome to Movie Bread Club. 
A podcast where we review and 

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chat about movies. 
Without spoilers. 

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It's Oscars week, and on this 
special episode of Movie Bread 

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Club, we're going to be speaking
about Hollywood's biggest 

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nights, including our 
predictions for who we want to 

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win versus who we think will win
surprise nominations, and those 

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that somehow didn't make the 
cut. 

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So grab your ballots as we get 
ready for the 2026 Academy 

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Awards. 
I'm Lee Casey. 

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I'm Jen Jones. 
And I'm on Bashar. 

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This is movie Bread Club. 
So excited for Sunday, 

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everybody. 
Yeah, it's here. 

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Here it is. 
It's. 

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The time. 
Are you talking about Mother's 

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Day? 
That. 

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That too. 
That too. 

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Hang on, let's not forget the 
mothers in all the Oscars 

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excitement. 
We love the mothers. 

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Please don't forget the mothers.
I do love a mother. 

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But yes, Oscars on Sunday. 
Do you wait all year for this 

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day? 
I do wait all year for this day 

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cause for me Oscars is I put on 
a par with Christmas. 

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Actually, I love it. 
It is definitely a highlight of 

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the year and I'll tell you why 
it's highlight of the year. 

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It's one of those days. 
Well, I tell my whole family I'm

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doing this this day, and it 
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Even on Mother's Day, on Mother.
'S day I'm going to see it all 

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days. 
Just to remind everyone 

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listening, Anna has got three 
children and a loving wife. 

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But she's great. 
But sure. 

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But not that day. 
And not that day she. 

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Can sort herself out. 
I've been staying up all night 

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to watch the Oscars since I was 
about 131415. 

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I mean, I know that's a big 
range, but. 161718. 

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And most of the time I've been 
told I'm completely nuts, I'm 

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completely mad and usually been 
doing it on my own. 

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But since the advent of the NBC,
it's it's good to have you guys 

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with. 
Me, You found your tribe because

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we also like staying up all 
night to watch people get 

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awards. 
And you've told us in a previous

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episode that used to have 
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Big Oscars parties the day after
we'd watch it recorded on VHS 

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and it was brilliant. 
I didn't stay up when I was 

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young, I always looked for the 
results the next morning. 

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But I always liked it because 
but the build up of the amount 

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of amazing films all coming out,
do you always knew like, OK, 

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it's coming. 
Yeah, it's a really exciting 

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time in the cinema, isn't it? 
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when you get Oscar season. 
You get rid of all those summer 

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blockbusters, Yeah, they start 
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Yeah, which is a surprise this 
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came out earlier on in 2025. 
Sinners. 

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Was that I saw sinners in May? 
When the nominations came out, I

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was like, oh, yeah, what a great
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But before we talk about those, 
should we talk about what we're 

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doing on the Sunday evening for 
the Oscars? 

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So. 
Exciting. 

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So exciting. 
So for the last few years I've 

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been hosting. 
So we basically sit around and 

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scream at the screen for about 
four hours. 

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We get our Oscar ballot. 
So what you can do? 

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Go online. 
You can type in Oscars 2026 

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printable ballot. 
I have to say my favorite one is

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usually comes from the Vanity 
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Was going to say we normally 
have the Vanity Fair. 

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Well, don't we at your party? 
How posh? 

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How? 
Posh. 

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That's my favorite one. 
It has all the categories on 

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there, every nominee listed out,
and it's a great way of noting 

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your predictions, sharing them 
with your friends and doing what

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we're going to do, which is fill
in our predictions before the 

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show starts. 
Then it's going to be like, who 

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got this? 
Who got that? 

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Keeps you awake the whole night 
because at the end of there's 

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something to achieve. 
Our good friend of the pod 

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cursed. 
She designed our NBC Oscars 

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trophy. 
That's the NBC trophy in the 

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room right now. 
We'll put that on in. 

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Because on won last year, I've 
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NBC trophy and you just please 
as punch. 

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You look so happy AF, smug AF 
and please just punch. 

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That's the. 
Kelsey Prize, The Guy that knows

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film won the film award. 
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previous year and actually most 
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you can never know what's going 
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No, when Jen pops this on 
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It is in fact a croissant and a 
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It is not a golden dog poo. 
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Yeah, something to behold. 
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Kirsty, thank you very much. 
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Beautiful. 
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dress up as my favorite best 
actress nominee, which was Demi 

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Moore in the Substance, and I 
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What's she called? 
Monstro? 

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Elisa Sue I. 
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Yes, she actually got a 
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Yes. 
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Revelation I did. 
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I know that's her character 
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So I came as her and really 
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So I'm pleased to say that this 
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one of my favorite Best Actress 
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wait and see. 
You have to find out. 

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You'll have to wait and. 
See, even we don't know. 

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Even you don't know when. 
Are you going to post that? 

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On the night, on the night I'm 
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real get ready with me to come 
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Blank. 
OK, so if you don't want to miss

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what Jen is wearing on Oscar 
night, make sure you're 

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following at Movie Bread Club on
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So she'll get into it. 
Let's get into it. 

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I'm excited. 
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everyone, we're not going to go 
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today. 
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shout out first of all to all 
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To be an Oscar nominee for a a 
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amazing. 
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everything on the ballot in 
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to say huge congratulations to 
every single person and team and

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film that's been nominated 
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to be in that in that company. 
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Achievement. 
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Especially Cos there's a new 
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on. 
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One for the history books. 
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Best casting now I think this is
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I think it's brilliant they've 
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Just to let you know, the 
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Hamnet, Marty, Supreme, 1, 
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Agent, and Sinners. 
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for you guys? 
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another, just the supporting 
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amazing performances. 
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was amazing. 
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I think Hamlet was a really 
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Obviously Jessie Buckley's up 
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the supporting cast of Hamlet 
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So there was obviously Jacoby 
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incredible, and Emily Watson was
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I think this was really awarding
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the choices they made and how 
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So I can see what you mean about
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finding those kids must have 
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And just the kids in it are so 
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And Hamnit is so good. 
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that one is Marty Supreme, 
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I wonder if this is going to be 
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Yeah. 
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the guys behind the counter and 
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actresses Kevin Garnett in uncut
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Creator and they and they use 
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story in a better way. 
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like to call the artistic. 
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costume design and makeup and 
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And I think these are more like 
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Yeah. 
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looks like. 
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set decorating and sets. 
Costume design. 

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Easy one. 
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What you're all wearing. 
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into almost prosthetics and 
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Absolutely. 
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about this, I'm just going to 
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Episode 1. 
I'm really surprise Wicked isn't

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in wicked too for good isn't in 
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for Wicked, the costumes were 
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signing was incredible. 
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categories, as you call them, 
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it won a fair few as well. 
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Because do you think it's 
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was nominated it kind of missed 
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And then when Return of the King
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were awarded that's whole 
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I think the one that you can see
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It looks incredible how they 
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wear of the time and the set 
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the visual aspect of the film is
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My confession is I haven't 
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What? 
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Sorry. 
Special guest on today's show, 

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Frankenstein's Monster. 
It's because I know it's Netflix

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and I'm like, yeah, I'll throw 
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Don't worry, it'll be on my 
ballot. 

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I will watch it beforehand. 
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think I quite like my Supreme 
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As you know, Marty Supreme not 
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I love the costumes in Marty 
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design. 
I thought it was really, really 

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good. 
I'd quite like to see Marty 

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Supreme take the costume design 
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Also for me sinners, oh. 
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I thought they the take on the 
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and then the outcome of that 
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in that sort of sense. 
And obviously there's a a really

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great scene in that where they 
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super clever how they brought it
all together. 

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Look out for that one. 
I think I completely agree. 

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I mean, Sinners is the most 
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history, right? 
It's got. 

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Scene nomination. 
Good fact. 

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You just slipped in there. 
I just slid it in there. 

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The most nominated film in 
history. 

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Wow. 
Wow, wow. 

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Wow, wow, wow, wow. 
Not this. 

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Again, wow. 
Wow. 

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Wait, stop. 
But yeah, no great fact. 

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Most nominated film in Oscars 
history The films they're not 

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hugely traditionally Oscar noms,
are they? 

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We're. 
Going to keep saying noms. 

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Yeah, I like saying noms, noms, 
noms nom, nom, nom, nom. 

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So yeah, so Sinners has got 16 
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What was The Who previously held
the title so? 

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In the past, La La Land, Titanic
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nominations. 
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getting 16 is staggering. 
That's a staggering number of 

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nominations, isn't it? 
It's absolutely incredible. 

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I think it's hit rate though, 
and I may be proved wrong. 

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I think it's hit rate, it's 
going to be a lot lower than 

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that. 
I think to get that many 

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nominations, you have to be 
achieving on a technical level 

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as well as story level. 
I think it works on all of those

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levels, but I think might get 
pipped here and there by other 

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films. 
Yeah. 

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OK, let's move on to things that
you listen to, like original 

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song and original score. 
Let's. 

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Talk about those two we should 
be nominated for Original song 

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for the Gen. catches up. 
Theme change. 

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I'm sure our listeners, yeah. 
Are listening to that part on 

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repeat. 
Not skipping 15 seconds, I mean,

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no. 
Way. 

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So looking at our original song 
and original score. 

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The original song is normally 
when we have our NBC party, when

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we're waiting for the red carpet
to start, we put them up on 

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YouTube on the screen. 
Don't we all watch them? 

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And we say, Oh yeah, I mean, 
obviously we all know Golden 

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from K pop demon hunters, which 
has been was stand out I. 

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Think K pop Demon Hunters on all
sorts of levels. 

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It's quite a standout movie, 
Yeah. 

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And if you've been living under 
a rock this past few months or 

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if you don't have children. 
I'm gonna say if you don't have 

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children. 
Yeah, K Pop Demon Hunters is 

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what they've all been talking 
about singing. 

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It is just made its way onto 
every playlist imaginable. 

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Yeah, for me it's K Pop Demon 
Hunters Golden on song. 

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Yeah, special mention again Sin 
as I lied to you. 

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What song? 
That is great. 

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And we talked about Train Dreams
on episode 1. 

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Yeah. 
We like that Train Dreams song, 

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don't. 
We on score, I think what's 

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great about score is it set like
it really can set the tone of 

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the film. 
Yeah and I think that all of 

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those films mentioned keep the 
pace of the film. 

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They keep the tension 1 battle 
after another the tension that 

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film is often done by the score.
But I think again, for me, 

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sinners, just because it 
captures the vibe so well and I 

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think this is one of the ones 
that it that will win, I think. 

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I agree, I think sinners for 
original score. 

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I'm gonna have to say justice 
for Marty Supreme here. 

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Where is. 
Where is. 

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Where is it? 
The score held the tension, and 

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it was so new in a kind of 
original thing to do, mixing 

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that $0.80 score with that 
period 50s look. 

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I thought it worked really well 
and I'm so gutted it's not 

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there. 
But Marty Supreme for Score in a

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Box with Jesse Plemons just over
here. 

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We'll have our own Oscars. 
Don't you worries guys. 

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Thinking about it, I think maybe
that's why they didn't put them 

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in, because it sort of did 
conflict. 

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Maybe. 
I mean, it added to it for you, 

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certainly. 
But even though I loved the 

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film, it's not I'm going to 
capture my attention. 

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What do you think of the Begonia
score? 

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Because I think that one was a 
really. 

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Good one. 
I think that was really good as 

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well. 
I really like the score for 

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Begonia in terms of just ramping
up the tension. 

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I thought it was really good 
actually. 

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Do you think we could put 
together some sort of NBC Oscars

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playlist that we could send, 
that we could send out to 

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everybody? 
Oh my goodness. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Definitely. 

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OK, so. 
Let's make a Spotify playlist so

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you can listen at your leisure 
and see what you think. 

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That would be a very useful 
thing to have at your Oscars 

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party. 
It would be a useful thing, 

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wouldn't it? 
OK, so every movie starts with a

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script screenplay. 
Oscars, they're bunched into two

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categories. 
That's adapted screenplay. 

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That's screenplays that are 
based on some previous work and 

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original screenplays which have 
come fresh out of the writers 

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minds. 
I always really like it at the 

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Oscars when they do the 
screenplay awards and they show 

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a clip of the film alongside the
script and you. 

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I love that in the Oscars. 
So you can kind of see what they

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were reading on the script and 
how it's kind of transformed 

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into the movie. 
I love that about the Oscars. 

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I think there's a misconception 
actually that screenplay just 

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means dialogue. 
Oh yeah, it's all the direction 

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and all the things in that 
script. 

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There's so much happening. 
Yeah, because screenplays aren't

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just conversations. 
They can also be the structure 

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of the story, how the character 
arcs work. 

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I actually read the script for 
sinners, you know, that 

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incredible dreamlike scene, and 
reading the script for that was 

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amazing, but just painting this 
picture of what they wanted it 

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to look like. 
In words. 

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Yeah, in words it was. 
It's really worth finding 

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reading, actually. 
You know what you've just done? 

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You've just opened up a moment 
in Sinners where I was like, Oh 

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my God, that was so. 
That was awesome, wasn't it it? 

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Was really good. 
It's like Elsie was saying 

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earlier, Sinners came out such a
long time ago. 

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I'd really like to watch it 
again before the Oscars because 

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it's it's so nominated and like 
talking about it. 

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When you talk, you know, you 
talk about the score. 

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It's like, oh, I remember liking
the score. 

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But I'd really like to watch it 
again with like through the lens

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of like it's nominated for this 
and this. 

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So that's what I really want to 
concentrate on. 

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Yeah, we got. 
Some last minute Oscar homework 

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to do. 
Yeah. 

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Adapted screenplay? 
I didn't realise Begonia was an 

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adapted screenplay. 
No, I didn't. 

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Either so batshit crazy you'd 
think. 

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Who thought of that first? 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Obviously we talked about Train 
Dreams in episode 1, but I 

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didn't realise it was in for 
adapted screenplay and now it 

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makes sense with the narrator 
and we talked about it felt like

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someone was reading a story book
to us. 

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Yeah, and actually that would be
my pick because I really like 

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that film so much. 
And I thought the way they 

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delivered what is now, obviously
something's been written first 

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into that visual representation 
where actually there isn't a lot

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of dialogue, as we talked about 
last time, is incredible. 

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And I'm actually also surprised 
that one battle after another is

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is an adapter. 
Is an adapted yes. 

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So any any pics in there on 
original screenplay before we 

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move on? 
Seeing as suddenly found that 

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there is a consistent thing 
going with me too. 

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Yes, there is. 
I'm. 

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Going to I'm going to sinners as
well of. 

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Course I'm going to see Marley 
Supreme. 

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I really like Marley Supreme. 
Sinners definitely would be my 

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second shout adapted screenplay 
I think. 

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Begonia I'm. 
Going to go train dreams. 

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I'm going begonia for. 
Begonia. 

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You know, it's one of those 
though. 

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For me, it's like I want train 
dreams to win and maybe I would 

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pick Begonia or Hamnet. 
I'd like to see Train Dreams win

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something because it's such a 
good film. 

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Although, I mean, I don't want 
to jump ahead of myself, but I 

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see that it's also nominated in 
cinematography. 

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Sorry, was that a slick segue 
And I? 

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Think that's the slickest thing 
we've ever done? 

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Really. 
Yeah, it is a natural. 

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Segue. 
It was a lovely segue. 

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How did that come from evil 
people? 

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The least look person you've 
ever met. 

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So cinematography, this is the 
category that awards the 

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director of photography. 
Now director of photography is 

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obviously all about the image. 
It's about cameras, lighting, 

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but really what I'm looking for 
in this category is a director 

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photography that is using all 
these tools to tell the story. 

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So in cinematography, we have 
Frankenstein, Martin Supreme, 1,

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Battle After Another, Sinners 
and Train Dreams. 

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What were you about to say about
Train Dreams? 

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I was just going to say it's a 
very strong category. 

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That isn't it. 
That's a really strong category 

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for cinematography. 
I'd love to see Train Dreams win

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because I thought the 
cinematography and Train Dreams 

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was incredible, like absolutely 
beautiful. 

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I think Marty's going to take it
though. 

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I think my pick is 1 battle 
after another for the epic 

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action scene nearer to the end 
of the film. 

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I think that's going to draw a 
lot of attention or would have 

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already drawn a lot of 
attention. 

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But train dreams we talked about
in episode 1 against sinners. 

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For me, I mean, even 
Frankenstein is incredible. 

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Why don't you just name all of 
them? 

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You know, yeah. 
So yeah. 

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And then? 
I think I think you'll probably 

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give yourself safe bet there 
just. 

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Split the Oscar into five pieces
and. 

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Everybody wins, everybody gets a
prize. 

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It's only fair. 
I think 1 battle after the 

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other. 
I think between 1 Battle after 

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another and Marty Supreme. 
I love the way my Supreme look, 

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but for technical prowess, 1 
battle after another. 

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Do you know they shot that in 
what's called Vista Vision? 

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It's a bit of a film's plane 
coming up, kids, no? 

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Please. 
Because of your seatbelts. 

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Listen, I know that it's Vista 
Vision and I, I knew that. 

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And my, I went to see one battle
after with my dad and he was 

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like, oh, it's filmed in Vista 
Vision. 

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I was like, Bob, this means 
nothing to me. 

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I don't know what that means. 
So you can tell me what it 

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means. 
Yeah. 

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Well, the twist here is that you
have taken pictures in Vista 

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Vision yourself. 35 millimetre 
film normally goes vertically 

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through the camera, 24 frames 
per second. 

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Now what fist division does is 
it turns that film on its side. 

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Now you can get a frame that's 
much bigger, and this is the 

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same size frame that you're 
probably used to getting your 

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negatives on back in the day, 
because when you take still 

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pictures on 35 millimetre, they 
come horizontally. 

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So imagine the film whizzing 
through the camera 24 frames a 

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second, taking those pictures on
its side. 

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So it gives you a much bigger 
resolution. 

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It has different qualities in 
terms of depth and things like 

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that, and it's very much 
becoming a popular format now 

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for a lot of film makers. 
I think very recently the 

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Brutalist was filmed in Vista 
Vision and also Wuthering 

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Heights. 
So a lot of directors are 

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turning to this format because 
it's quite fun to use. 

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But it what it also does, it 
turns to that film reel on its 

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side, makes the camera quite big
and bulky. 

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And to do the action scene in 
one battle after another and 

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loads moving shots in that 
movie, in fact, must have been 

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quite a technical feat. 
OK, before we get to the big 

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ones, I was going to quick nod 
film editing again. 

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I'm going to say mighty supreme.
F1, it's a bit of an outsider, 

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but the film itself was great 
and the editing and obviously 

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it's up for sound as well. 
Those two, yeah, you're really 

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in it, it feels. 
It's such a great action film. 

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There's two aspects to editing 
though, again, which I never 

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really know which side to fall 
on because there's the technical

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side. 
So F1 quick cuts, using every 

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single microsecond to put you 
into the into the feeling. 

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But then also editing is about 
storytelling as well. 

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So it's sometimes about how you 
structure the movie. 

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Sometimes at times they even say
the editing process is like the 

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final draft of the screenplay. 
Marty Supreme shouldn't be 

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nominated for film editing. 
Why? 

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Because it was so long and so, 
so long. 

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They needed to get a machete and
just chop large segments of that

448
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film and throw them in the bin. 
Not to. 

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I don't want to be dramatic, but
just throw some of it in the bin

450
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and everyone would have had a 
better time. 

451
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We're supposed to be positive 
vibes on you guys. 

452
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Positive vibes I. 
Don't have been dramatic. 

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We're my big machete. 
That's why I'm not a film 

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editor, because I would be there
with a reel of film. 

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But. 
Again, that's another 

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misconception, though. 
It's like, oh, film editing. 

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How much did you, how short did 
you make the movie? 

458
00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,120
Yeah, I think it's how you flow 
through it. 

459
00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,960
That's true, but I didn't like 
the flow of. 

460
00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,640
I mean, I've discussed this in 
depth on our review of Marty 

461
00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,720
Supreme, but I had a problem 
with all the subplots in Marty 

462
00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,520
Supreme and they could have lost
a bit, but I think I'd probably 

463
00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,800
go for thinners, I think. 
Sinners for editing. 

464
00:19:48,800 --> 00:19:50,080
Sinners for editing is very 
good. 

465
00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:53,160
It's a it's so tough, isn't it? 
There are there are so many 

466
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:54,400
good. 
You know what you I think? 

467
00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,000
Oh no, I'm I'm looking back over
the fence and I'm looking on 

468
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,200
like and I just because. 
Of that what you're. 

469
00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,520
Hearing in the fence, 
Incredible. 

470
00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:05,240
I think I've said incredible 55 
times. 

471
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,720
It's. 
Such a strong. 

472
00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:07,960
Year. 
No, I'm sticking with it. 

473
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,200
I'm sticking with the F1. 
I've already ticked the box. 

474
00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,120
It's done guys. 
I'm in. 

475
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:14,120
I really like this year in the 
Oscars that there's it's such a 

476
00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:17,200
strong year for film and there's
not kind of one film, even 

477
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,560
though Senators has got so many 
norms, I don't think there's one

478
00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,320
film that kind of dominates and 
you're like, oh, it's going to 

479
00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,320
sweep it. 
It's really hard to call so many

480
00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,280
of these categories. 
Sound in F1 definitely. 

481
00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:29,360
I remember coming out of there 
thinking, wow, this is a this is

482
00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,360
pretty good do. 
You know what I'm surprised 

483
00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,480
isn't up for Sound warfare. 
Oh my God. 

484
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,560
Warfare. 
Why isn't warfare in the sound 

485
00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,080
category? 
I came out of that film with my 

486
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,200
nerves jangling and the sound in
that film was so amazing. 

487
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,400
It was so well done. 
It's amazing, there's so many 

488
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,720
good films out and I completely 
forgot about warfare. 

489
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:51,400
Yeah, Warfare came out last. 
I watched it last April. 

490
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,120
It must have been just after the
last awards so early in the 

491
00:20:54,120 --> 00:20:56,560
season, isn't? 
It it's been snubbed for every 

492
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,200
category. 
I don't want to use the word 

493
00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,760
Oscar Beatty, but I think that's
quite an Oscar Beatty film 

494
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,160
warfare because there were a lot
of great performances in there. 

495
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,640
It was shocking. 
Scenes. 

496
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,920
Shocking scenes. 
Yeah. 

497
00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,840
It was a it was a great film. 
It's a very piece of film. 

498
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,200
Making a true story, right? 
Yeah, do. 

499
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,400
You think it's one of those ones
that came out too early? 

500
00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,400
Yeah, even for the voters of the
Oscars. 

501
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,440
And they don't remember. 
It it definitely came out too 

502
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,640
early. 
Don't get me started on weapons.

503
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,080
Oh yeah, let's not go down that 
road. 

504
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,120
Let's not go down that. 
Road If Warfare had been 

505
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:27,200
released in September, would we 
be seeing it in all these 

506
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,920
categories? 
And visual effects, surely 

507
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,000
that's Avatar, do you think? 
Do you think that's a shoo? 

508
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,000
In F1? 
A lot of that stuff is created 

509
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,440
on a computer. 
But again, I hate to say, oh, 

510
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,520
that scene in Sinners, Yeah. 
It's so good. 

511
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:42,720
It's stunning. 
Yeah. 

512
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,480
And also, I mean, it comes back 
as well as what we were saying 

513
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,320
before about sequels. 
I mean, if Avatar did really 

514
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,000
well the first time around, is 
it going to has it kind of 

515
00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,280
already had it stage? 
Has anyone seen the lost bus? 

516
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:59,960
Yes, effects wise, good. 
Wow. 

517
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,160
The effects are really harrowing
actually in terms of you really 

518
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,840
do feel like you're in that 
wildfire. 

519
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:11,240
But I don't think it really sits
above F1 even for me. 

520
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,720
But yes, in as that part that 
just for that part. 

521
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,760
Just. 
So good, like I wanted to get up

522
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,120
and start dancing and the cinema
is so good. 

523
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,120
OK, so just before we get onto 
the big six, let's have a quick 

524
00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:25,160
look at International Feature, 
Documentary Feature, and 

525
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,280
Animated Feature. 
Animated feature K Pop Demon 

526
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,560
Hunters have been playing on 
repeat in my house for a year 

527
00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,800
for the success of that film and
the sort of the clamour for the 

528
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,360
next one, which I don't think 
comes out to a 2029 which my 

529
00:22:36,360 --> 00:22:38,240
kids. 
Are like, oh really fired by Oh 

530
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,880
my goodness, none of them will 
care by then they'll be really 

531
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,480
teenagers. 
My oldest is already going like 

532
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:45,960
K pop is so dead. 
I've heard that it's over. 

533
00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,680
I've heard it's over. 
Yeah, I've heard it's deader 

534
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,840
than 6-7. 
That's my third. 

535
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,440
I know. 
There's 2 numbers that we don't.

536
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,760
Repeat. 
It's over now. 

537
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,080
Did you actually glance over 
their shoulder and watch K pop 

538
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,400
team and. 
Times I watched your way through

539
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:57,800
I'm. 
Big fan of it at the cinema. 

540
00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,280
Yeah, it was. 
I was brilliant. 

541
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,320
I really, really enjoyed it. 
I It's a great film. 

542
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,200
Let's say it's really well 
deserved. 

543
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,000
Yeah. 
I think I had such a great time 

544
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,200
watching that movie. 
There's a joke, I think, on a 

545
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,240
previous Oscar show, and Jack 
Black's on stage and he comes 

546
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,960
on. 
He goes, well, I take all the 

547
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,680
money that I earn and then I bet
it on Pixar. 

548
00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,640
Yeah. 
For the best animated category, 

549
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,000
but I think Pixar is going to be
going home empty handed this 

550
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,320
year. 
So Elio, so not a Pixar classic 

551
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,000
for me. 
Elio, it was fine. 

552
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,800
Pixar movie shouldn't be fine. 
You shouldn't go and see a Pixar

553
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,040
movie be like that was fine. 
That's how I felt after Elio you

554
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:32,840
shouldn't feel like that. 
You should be like that was a 

555
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,240
life changing experience for me.
Is Pixar running out of ideas? 

556
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,560
Because they seem to be doing a 
lot more sequels. 

557
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,920
Now we're onto Toy Story 5. 
Yeah, and I mean, I went to The 

558
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,080
Hoppers last night, which is the
new Pixar, and I can't help 

559
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,280
thinking they a little bit lost 
their way. 

560
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,880
I feel like the successful Pixar
movies that everyone knows and 

561
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,000
loves, they've got a really 
simple quest plot line, which is

562
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,440
we need to find Nemo, we need to
get back to Andy's room, we need

563
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:59,880
to get Boo back to her bedrooms.
But the recent Pixar films, the 

564
00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,840
plots are a little bit muddy. 
They have iconic characters. 

565
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,040
Yeah. 
You how many times you say, oh, 

566
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,080
I'm like Dory. 
Characters that you really fall 

567
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,560
in love with. 
Like, what is that? 

568
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,120
Yeah, I have faith I'll get it 
back. 

569
00:24:09,120 --> 00:24:11,480
But. 
Yeah, for international feature 

570
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,960
this year, they've kind of 
potentially given the winner 

571
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,880
away out of choice, A or B. 
It seems like two of those 

572
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,640
nominees, Sentimental Value and 
The Secret Agent, being in the 

573
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,800
best. 
Picture category, Yeah. 

574
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:25,960
It feels like one of those. 
Will probably be the winner. 

575
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,080
No. 
International feature is always 

576
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,320
the one where you can just look 
around on the other categories 

577
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,480
and you can spot that one, but 
there are two. 

578
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,880
Yeah, yeah. 
So. 

579
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:40,000
Yeah, the jury is out. 
And without further ado, another

580
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,280
fucking thing. 
Another. 

581
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,240
Fucking Jingle. 
Wait, this is the bit actually, 

582
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800
when you're watching the Oscars.
Yeah, You're kind of like, Oh my

583
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,440
God. 
These are the ones where you're 

584
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,600
kind of, you're starting to nod 
off and then your attention is 

585
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,200
like you're like, oh, here we 
go. 

586
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,680
Now we're back in it. 
Well, actually the big six, but 

587
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,040
they normally just tease you 
into it. 

588
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,600
They put the supporting guys at 
the front. 

589
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,200
Yes, they do don't. 
They they put them earlier on. 

590
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,000
Yeah, yeah. 
Just to say, oh, this is going 

591
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,760
to be an acting show. 
And then they go, ha, ha, we 

592
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,440
fooled you. 
Yeah. 

593
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,280
He's documentary short. 
No disrespect. 

594
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,120
No doctor's documentary short, 
of course, but you know what I 

595
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:18,560
mean. 
This year we're going to start 

596
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,280
with best director strong 
nominations. 

597
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,440
We've got Chloe Zhao for Hamnet,
Josh Safdie for Marty Supreme, 

598
00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:32,400
Paul Thomas Anderson for one 
battle after another, Joachim 

599
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,760
Tria for sentimental value, and 
Ryan Coogler for Sinners. 

600
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,440
I've always loved Paul Thomas 
Anderson. 

601
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:43,360
I don't think he has a bad 
movie, but I've got to say, you 

602
00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:48,360
know what I'm going to say, Josh
Sefti For Marty, I think it's an

603
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,880
absolute triumph. 
What he's put together there, 

604
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,440
the way he's told the story in 
so many different types of way 

605
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,600
and just the amount of detail 
and you can just tell it's all 

606
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,880
coming from him. 
He's the standard bearer for 

607
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,560
that movie, and for me, that's 
Marty Supreme. 

608
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:05,480
I'm going to go for one battle 
after another because I just 

609
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,640
think it was excellent. 
PTA. 

610
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,960
It's definitely between those 
two. 

611
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:13,120
Yeah, well. 
Is it between those two LC or is

612
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,600
there a third in the mix? 
Actually between all 5. 

613
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:16,720
That's why they're all 
nominated. 

614
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,080
That works. 
Thank you for explaining. 

615
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,360
I think Ryan Coogler has a 
really good shout. 

616
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:27,040
I think Paul Thomas Anderson 
will win, but I want Ryan 

617
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,440
Coogler to win so bad. 
So let's see who is going to be 

618
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,320
right come Monday morning. 
Yeah, who's going to be smug on 

619
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,760
Monday morning? 
Me, yeah. 

620
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,640
You're always, but we know 
you're going to pick and mighty 

621
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,320
supreme for every category. 
Smug and tired. 

622
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,600
Let's not forget that Marty 
Supreme was the most nominated 

623
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,640
film in Bafta's history to go 
home empty handed. 

624
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,640
I'm just saying, I'm just drop 
that in there. 

625
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,920
Jesus just saying mic drop boy 
yo yoing have. 

626
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,840
You been bringing that rubber 
microphone with you again? 

627
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,000
Is that rubber microphone in 
your pocket? 

628
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:04,440
Or? 
Let's go to Best Supporting 

629
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,920
Actor on Would you like to read 
out the nominees? 

630
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,360
In the category of Best 
Supporting Actor, there is 

631
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:16,560
Benicio Del Toro for one battle 
after another, Jacob Elodie for 

632
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Frankenstein, Delroy Lindo for 
sinners, Sean Penn for one 

633
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,880
battle after another, and 
Stellan Skarsgard for 

634
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,560
sentimental value. 
Strong category. 

635
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,000
It is strong and I've always 
loved Del Roy Lindo and I wish 

636
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,720
him all the best in the future, 
but Sean Penn? 

637
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:36,880
Sean Penn. 
Oh. 

638
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,160
Absolutely. 
And you know, I'll I'll forever 

639
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,120
be quoting Benicio Del Toro for 
his part in One Battle after 

640
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,680
another. 
But Sean Penn, his performance 

641
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,040
as the villain 1 battle after 
another, it was just the one. 

642
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,480
Was amazing. 
Definitely. 

643
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,040
I'm all on for Sean. 
I was a bit sad he didn't show 

644
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,240
up at the Baftas when he won. 
But there's always that thing, 

645
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,520
the Bafta's not important 
enough. 

646
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,520
Yeah, that's how it comes 
across. 

647
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,920
Leo was there, front row and 
went home empty handed again. 

648
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,920
That was mean. 
But he always goes home, he 

649
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,560
always does. 
He always goes home up to. 

650
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:07,280
You. 
We love you, Leo. 

651
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,000
We love you. 
But no, we do love Leo. 

652
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,880
We really love Leo. 
Did you see that clip when 

653
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,800
Marlon Brando won best Actor, 
but he sent a Native American 

654
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,600
across to go and pick up his 
Oscar? 

655
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,880
Yeah, what a ledge. 
I'd love to win an Oscar and 

656
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,480
then not pick it up. 
I'll never. 

657
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,840
Do that. 
I'll go and pick one up for you 

658
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,880
on your path if you want. 
On you want to be on the 

659
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,360
Academy, you can't start saying 
you're not going to turn up to 

660
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:30,040
the shows. 
Let. 

661
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,480
Me rephrase that, I like to be 
cool enough not to pick up my 

662
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,000
Oscar. 
Next category we have is 

663
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,840
supporting actress Jennifer. 
I knew you were going to ask me 

664
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,520
to read these out and so I'm 
already Googling how to 

665
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:45,280
pronounce the second one. 
So up for supporting actress 

666
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,000
this year at the Oscars is Elf 
Anik for sentimental value, Inga

667
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,680
IBS daughter Lilias for 
sentimental value, Amy Madigan 

668
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,040
for weapons, Wumi Musaku for 
sinners, and Tayana Taylor for 

669
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,040
one battle after another. 
I'm grateful to see Tayana 

670
00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Taylor in there because I think 
she is good in one battle after 

671
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,600
another, but she's not in it for
very long and I know that you 

672
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,000
don't have to have a lot of 
screen time to be nominated for 

673
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:07,240
an Oscar. 
Was it Judi Dench? 

674
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,840
Judi Dench, I think. 
Judi. 

675
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,440
Judi was taking the piss. 
Judi. 

676
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:11,920
Was in it 6 minutes or 
something? 

677
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,320
She did 6 minutes in love. 
Hardly and it wasn't. 

678
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:16,080
She won an Oscar, didn't she? 
So you don't need much screen 

679
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:17,680
time to win an Oscar. 
Still, I'm always quite 

680
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,800
surprised when someone pops up 
who doesn't have loads of screen

681
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,920
times. 
Or quality rather than quantity 

682
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,480
her. 
Performance was mega powerful. 

683
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,200
I thought, yes, you were like, 
oh wow, she is. 

684
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:28,840
Yeah, she is. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

685
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,840
We will all follow you. 
Yeah, I think the term is 

686
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,760
badass. 
Yeah, that's definitely the 

687
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,040
term. 
Well, we're happy to see Amy 

688
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,240
Madigan as well, getting a yeah 
quick look in. 

689
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,080
She's the one I want to win, 
really. 

690
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,640
Trail of Gladys and weapons. 
I saw a clip of her doing the 

691
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,240
weapons run up to the stage and 
I think that was for the SAG 

692
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,200
actual. 
Legend. 

693
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,280
I don't really have a strong 
opinion on that one, I've got to

694
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,840
say. 
So I will do a last minute 

695
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,880
decision by sneaking a look at 
someone else's ballot. 

696
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,480
I For me it's Wimi Masaku from 
Sinners, because she was 

697
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,920
brilliant. 
I think Tiana Taylor if I was 

698
00:29:59,920 --> 00:30:02,120
forced force my hand. 
We are forcing your hand. 

699
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840
That's the whole point of the 
show, the whole point of the 

700
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,480
podcast. 
I was surprised not to see for 

701
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,920
mighty Supreme Adessa Azion, who
played the love interest I think

702
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,240
in Marty Supreme and I thought 
she actually stole a lot of the 

703
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,480
show. 
Should we stick with the girls? 

704
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:17,800
Yeah, stick with the girls. 
Yeah. 

705
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:21,880
So leading actress. 
Surely Jessie Buckley Buckley is

706
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Move on. 
He's. 

707
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,400
Probably been the favorite in 
all awards. 

708
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,440
Wait, I think that Jessie. 
Buckley is probably going to win

709
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,840
it, but I don't think we can 
discount Emma Stone because the 

710
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,920
Academy love Emma Stone and the 
Academy loves a physical 

711
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,120
transformation. 
They love a physical 

712
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,240
transformation. 
So I'm going to say wild card, 

713
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,880
Wild card. 
I don't think we. 

714
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,600
Can sleep on Emma Stone because 
I would never sleep on. 

715
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,200
Emma Stone don't don't use a 
phone for. 

716
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,000
Christ's sake. 
Ohh my gosh. 

717
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,920
Yeah, I like So I I think that 
everyone thinks that Jessie 

718
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Buckley got in the bag, but I 
think Emma Stone I think has a 

719
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,320
chance there. 
And she's very good in. 

720
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,640
Piconia as well they the Academy
love Emma Stone they. 

721
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,040
I think they have loved her now.
She's had her Oscar, hasn't she?

722
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,200
She's got an Oscar already. 
You can say that she's been. 

723
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,040
Recognised already, which she 
has, but I do think she's really

724
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,320
good in Begonia and I think 
there's always more. 

725
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:14,640
There's always room for more 
Emma Stone love. 

726
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,960
If I was betting, I would. 
Probably and we are on Jessie 

727
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
and we are for a trophy. 
Yeah, I'm. 

728
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,880
Going to go Emma Stone for it. 
I'm going to go wild card for 

729
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Emma Stone. 
So before we go on to. 

730
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,320
Leading actor in the same film, 
Begonia, Jesse Plemons name is 

731
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,000
not on the ballot. 
Yeah, we talked about that last 

732
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,280
time and we're all still very 
upset. 

733
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,320
So let's get into leading actor 
very strong. 

734
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,840
So we have Timothy Chalamet. 
Chalamet. 

735
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,120
Martin. 
Supreme Leonardo DiCaprio. 

736
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,600
For one battle after the other, 
Ethan Hawke for Blue Moon, 

737
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,280
Michael B Jordan for Sinners, 
and Wagnamora for the secret 

738
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,360
agent. 
I actually saw Blue Moon. 

739
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,600
It was very good. 
It's almost like a play and I 

740
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200
can see why Ethan Hawke has been
nominated for this. 

741
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
He pretty much holds up the 
whole movie and almost speaks 

742
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,040
non-stop. 
So a good nod to him, but 

743
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640
unfortunately I don't think he's
going to get there. 

744
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,440
I think it's going to be. 
Michael B Jordan. 

745
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,440
Oh, I would love that. 
I think it's going to be Michael

746
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,440
B Jordan. 
Because he is incredible and he 

747
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,480
plays two roles. 
Yeah, he plays Smoke and Sack. 

748
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,440
He's both of them, much like 
Lindsay Lohan in The Parent 

749
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,200
Trap. 
It's a challenging thing to do. 

750
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Wait, wait. 
Am I the first person that's 

751
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:30,640
ever compared Michael B Jordan 
to Lindsay Lohan? 

752
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,400
I think you might be but. 
I would love him to win and. 

753
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,880
So I've got a question about 
Oscar voting. 

754
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,000
But when does the voting close? 
Because in the last week 

755
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,680
Chalamet has come out with some 
very derogatory comments about 

756
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:46,760
Oscar and ballet and I wonder if
that's hurt his chances because 

757
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,880
the people still voting for the 
Oscars now? 

758
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720
Or has the window closed? 
When when did this all kick off?

759
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,360
Because the voting for the 
Oscars closed on the 5th of 

760
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,360
March. 
Oh, did it? 

761
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,880
Oh, so he's probably. 
Off the hook, then yes, it was 

762
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,680
just afterwards, but they. 
Could have it can really affect.

763
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,680
Their chances. 
You have to be on the best baby.

764
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,160
Do you remember Amelia Perez? 
Oh yeah, that was definitely 

765
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:08,600
years. 
Ago, Yeah, that whole 

766
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,000
controversy that. 
Really overshadowed and that and

767
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,880
she got it in early that one I. 
Think if he wins the Oscar it. 

768
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Should be presented to him by a 
ballerina. 

769
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,280
Yes, it's very difficult. 
It's a difficult one, very 

770
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,520
difficult. 
I. 

771
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,600
I would love Michael B Jordan to
win it because followed his 

772
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,920
career since the wire when he 
played a small part in the first

773
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,360
season of the Wire and any film 
he's in love watching like he's 

774
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,000
so great. 
But I think it's going to be 

775
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,120
Chalamet Chalamet. 
Well, going to take it are. 

776
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,480
We discounting DiCaprio because 
are we saying that the never 

777
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,960
discount cap? 
No, we never discount, but 

778
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:44,480
don't. 
You think the? 

779
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,560
The Academy Is done with 
DiCaprio. 

780
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,120
I think they're done. 
Yeah, I. 

781
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,520
Don't know if they're done. 
You can't. 

782
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,160
Even say they're done, but while
there is other. 

783
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:55,000
Equally good performances there 
for the amount of time he's been

784
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:56,680
nominated. 
The greatest actor of our 

785
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,720
generation, right Of our 
generation. 

786
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,600
It's a bold statement. 
I think he is very bold 

787
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,520
statement. 
It's bold. 

788
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:03,800
But I think there's some. 
Truth in that? 

789
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Actually, he's not the only one,
no. 

790
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,320
Well, I say the greatest. 
Well, he's. 

791
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:12,760
One of the greatest. 
He is the greatest, but yeah, he

792
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:14,800
could all be great. 
Well, the kids call everyone 

793
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840
goats. 
Nowadays, so you can only have 

794
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,960
one, I think. 
Yeah, he's up there for sure. 

795
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,159
He's up there and any film he's.
In I'll watch. 

796
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:22,840
Do you know what I always just 
see Leonardo? 

797
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,159
DiCaprio. 
I never see him playing the 

798
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:25,719
character. 
Do you know what I mean by that?

799
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,000
Yeah. 
It's like you were talking about

800
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,159
Jesse Plemons, like believing 
he's because we're a theory. 

801
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,040
Just No, I disagree with that, I
think. 

802
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:34,800
He can chameleon a little bit. 
He is always working with the 

803
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,320
best directors. 
He's going from PT Anderson. 

804
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,400
He's with Tarantino, Scorsese. 
Scorsese. 

805
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,280
Yeah, Oh my God. 
God, he's just picking the cream

806
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,480
of the crop. 
So of course the movies he picks

807
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,360
to be in, they're gonna be good.
They're gonna be good. 

808
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,120
Yeah, yeah. 
I think for me though. 

809
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:50,400
Chalamet I would like. 
Michael. 

810
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,320
B Jordan, but got a feeling it 
might slip over to Chalamet. 

811
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,040
I think it's gonna be Michael B 
Jordan. 

812
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:56,480
I think, I think he's, I think 
it will be. 

813
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,240
I think it will be. 
I think it will be. 

814
00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:00,360
I think there's enough buzz 
enough. 

815
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,200
Yeah, Presenters is nominated 
for so many awards and it it 

816
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,040
might not win in some 
categories, but I think he will 

817
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,760
win and he won and he won. 
The sag. 

818
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,320
Actor award, and I think usually
so whoever wins the SAG actor 

819
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,600
award, there's some stat around 
the winner of the Oscar. 

820
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,920
So normally wins the SAG or the 
BAFTA and Chalamet has won 

821
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,080
neither. 
Oh, that's very. 

822
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,960
Interesting. 
Actually, it's interesting. 

823
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,680
There's there's usually. 
It's usually quite a strong 

824
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,840
indicator of how the Oscars 
going to go from looking at 

825
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,040
those two. 
And Chalamet has come home empty

826
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,600
handed from both. 
He didn't win that. 

827
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,280
And I think did Michael B Jordan
win the SAG. 

828
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,200
Yeah, we are like Oscar 
detectives. 

829
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,240
We are always detectives. 
No, I'm not going to. 

830
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,280
I've done it Elsie me. 
Did you just start a theme? 

831
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:44,240
Tune Elsie's like a theme tune. 
You're never hit for me again, 

832
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,680
OK? 
So that brings us to the final 

833
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,960
event. 
Big one, the big one, the big 

834
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,240
Huhuna. 
The best picture where? 

835
00:35:52,240 --> 00:35:54,440
Everybody gets a. 
Nomination, guys. 

836
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,360
Hey, did you make a movie? 
Everyone gets a nomination. 

837
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,160
You get a nomination. 
You get a nomination, you get a 

838
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,640
nomination. 
Nomination and. 

839
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,920
Say the nominees for Best 
picture. 

840
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,320
Are Oh, that was like my Oscar. 
That was my Oscar announcing 

841
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,040
voice. 
You know what? 

842
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,080
I actually really. 
Enjoy reading out these 

843
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,280
nominations. 
I quite enjoy it because it 

844
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,120
makes me feel like I'm at the 
Oscars and I'm on stage or I'm 

845
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,320
going to read this in my best 
Oscars. 

846
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,120
Voice you ready? 
Go for it. 

847
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:20,960
And the nominees? 
For. 

848
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:27,720
Best picture are Begonia F1 
Frankenstein Hamnet Marty 

849
00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:32,440
supreme won battle after another
the secret agent, sentimental 

850
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:39,640
value sinners and train dreams 
woo Hoo on what do you reckon 

851
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,360
Well, first of all, I'm going to
cut half of. 

852
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:42,960
Them off. 
Oh my gosh, right. 

853
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,160
Because you don't. 
Agree with the 10 category, the 

854
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,840
whole. 10 category thing I. 
Don't agree with it? 

855
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,120
So who's in your top five then? 
Begonia. 

856
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:57,880
Marty Supreme? 
Really shocker shocker 1 battle 

857
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,960
after another. 
Every time I mention Mart 

858
00:36:59,960 --> 00:37:01,280
Supreme, that's what it feels 
like. 

859
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,120
Sinners. 
Oh God I started to cut 5 but I 

860
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,560
don't know what the last one is 
out of those 40. 

861
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,160
I'll give you 1. 
You don't give. 

862
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,240
US1 No, you would put. 
Hamlet in there. 

863
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,280
No, you would put Hamlet in the 
best picture category. 

864
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120
No, really. 
Absolutely not. 

865
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,720
That's interesting. 
It's like when the Emperor. 

866
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:18,720
'S not wearing any. 
Clothes. 

867
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,960
You have to say everybody. 
It's not as. 

868
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,360
Good as you think it. 
Is we know that you could just 

869
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:26,440
cut 9. 
Yeah, exactly right. 

870
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:31,120
Marty Supreme. 
For all aforementioned reasons, 

871
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,480
it all comes together through 
acting, through the direction, 

872
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,360
through This is it Marty 
Supreme? 

873
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,760
It's a big fish. 
It's a big fish. 

874
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,520
What's your fish? 
Look like my big fish looks. 

875
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,080
Like Sinners, it might be 
officious. 

876
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,760
Like Sinners, I think it's going
to be Sinners. 

877
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,840
The Best picture category brings
together all of these elements, 

878
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,560
and Sinners was so strong across
so many categories. 

879
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,480
And it's got all of these 
nominations. 

880
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,320
And I feel like all of these 
nominations create the sum of a 

881
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:01,400
best picture, great acting 
performances, but sometimes 

882
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,160
we're in the position. 
Where the picture is less than 

883
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,840
the sum of its parts, it can be 
great in all sorts of 

884
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:12,040
categories, technically through 
artistry, through design, all 

885
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,280
these separate categories. 
But the movie, when you go in, 

886
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,760
you watch it, you come out, 
what's the best movie? 

887
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,960
And I think that's the way I 
kind of approach this. 

888
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,320
So for me personally. 
I'd put begonia for Best 

889
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,320
Picture. 
That's why I'd pick. 

890
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,000
If I'm choosing, I'd choose 
begonia because when I go see a 

891
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,600
movie, I want to feel something 
and begonia the whole way 

892
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,960
through. 
I had my mouth open because I 

893
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,400
went in blind. 
I didn't know what it was about.

894
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200
I enjoyed it so much. 
I was just on a ride on that 

895
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,360
movie. 
I didn't know what was going to 

896
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,040
happen. 
I didn't know anything about it.

897
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:39,720
It was brilliant. 
Sinners. 

898
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,120
This is the balance between what
I want and what I think. 

899
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:43,800
I think Sinners will win Best 
Picture. 

900
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,480
I would like it to be, but I 
think it'll be sinners because I

901
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,800
do think it's a really strong 
film. 

902
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,360
It's a strong film. 
It's a strong film. 

903
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:50,400
And it tells a. 
It tells a good. 

904
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:52,400
Story. 
I felt it was a little. 

905
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,840
Too long, and that's probably 
its weakest part. 

906
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,760
If they were, if there was a 
category for best scene, which 

907
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,000
there should be, there should. 
Be there, should be, shouldn't 

908
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,240
there? 
Notes for the Academy. 

909
00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:04,040
Notes for the. 
Academy give sinners. 

910
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,920
Best scene. 
Wouldn't that be amazing if they

911
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,560
had? 
A best scene category, That 

912
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,800
would be good. 
That would be really. 

913
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:09,680
Good. 
I think that's. 

914
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,880
Worth campaigning? 
For Justice for Jessie and best 

915
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,400
scene, Best scene Oscar 
campaign. 

916
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:15,760
Things that we want to start, 
but. 

917
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,600
Probably never will. 
No, no, we're going to. 

918
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,160
I'm going to start on Instagram.
Immediately. 

919
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,520
All right, so I. 
Really want sinners to win I 

920
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,880
think 1 battle after another 
will but I'm going to go for I'm

921
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,760
going to manifest sinners to 
win. 

922
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,640
I your point about it being too 
long, I wanted more, more 

923
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,760
sinners more of it please. 
The cast was great. 

924
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,880
I thought the sound was great. 
I thought the sets were great. 

925
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,400
The era, the sort of the mood of
the film. 

926
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,880
Yeah. 
And I think in this case, some 

927
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,680
of its parts is greater. 
Wow. 

928
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,280
OK. 
And I really think it's, it's 

929
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,640
probably my favorite film of the
year. 

930
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,040
Therefore, I'm gonna go for 
Sinners. 

931
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,320
Yes. 
Excellent. 

932
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:53,920
Can I just ask? 
How many begets did you give 

933
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,600
sinners? 
Because I know you go back, 

934
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,880
didn't you give Marty? 
Supreme 4. .5 Baguettes 4.5 

935
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,640
Sinners is a. 5A5 And I think I 
probably give sinners A4. 

936
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,240
Yeah, because I I can sometimes 
I can watch a movie and just 

937
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:09,400
really appreciate the fact that 
what I'm watching is quite 

938
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,440
special. 
And that's how I felt about 

939
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,920
Sinners like it was, I thought 
it was a really clever film. 

940
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,480
I totally appreciate you can 
have. 5 baguette moments in a 

941
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,600
three baguette film. 
And that's why we need the best 

942
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,760
scene. 
Oscar for exactly that right, we

943
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,560
do oh, let's start let's start 
coming. 

944
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,040
It's so excited now there we. 
Have it coming. 

945
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,440
It's coming so excited, Oh my. 
Gosh, I'm so excited. 

946
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,360
There's a lot to chat about. 
I feel like the. 

947
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,760
Conversation is definitely not 
over. 

948
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:34,520
Well, the conversation isn't 
over. 

949
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,640
Because on Do you remember what 
we're doing after the Oscar 

950
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,840
finishes? 
Soon as the Oscars finishes, 

951
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:39,080
what are we doing? 
Are we going to bed? 

952
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:40,880
Unfortunately, we're not going 
to bed. 

953
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,240
Not like. 
Normal people? 

954
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:43,680
No. 
Way. 

955
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,320
I mean, the normal people 
actually went to bed before the 

956
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,600
Oscars anyway. 
They did. 

957
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,800
They watch it on Catch Up on 
Monday. 

958
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,240
Evening. 
But that's not us, losers. 

959
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:51,720
Nice. 
We're being hardcore. 

960
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,920
Not just for. 
Ourselves, but for our 

961
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,840
listeners, we'll be buzzing with
excitement. 

962
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,720
From the Oscars, I've always I 
can never sleep after the 

963
00:40:56,720 --> 00:40:57,800
Oscars. 
I'm always so buzzy with 

964
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,080
excitement of what I've just 
seen. 

965
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,560
So we're gonna be talking all 
about it and we'll be having our

966
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,280
reactions to everything that 
happened, and that's the winners

967
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,120
and the losers, but also any 
other crazy stuff that's got any

968
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,720
crazy. 
Crazy stuff always happens. 

969
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:09,520
At the Oscars, doesn't it? 
We. 

970
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,400
Always see a few crazy things 
and live for the crazy. 

971
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,200
I live for the crazy stuff. 
That's what we're gonna be 

972
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,720
talking about as well, the 
people who pronounce things. 

973
00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:19,160
A little bit weirdly, El dazeem.
I'm thinking of. 

974
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,040
That was a great one. 
That's my people who read the. 

975
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,640
The wrong. 
Thing out of the envelope Has a 

976
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:26,640
wrong envelope been given? 
A wrong envelope. 

977
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,440
Oh wow, believe that happened. 
Insulting wives, everything. 

978
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,240
Oh my God, it's all going on. 
And we're gonna talk about all 

979
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:35,640
of it on the NBC Oscars Reaction
podcast. 

980
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,400
NBC reacts to the. 
Oscars come and join us then. 

981
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,080
Are you gonna be? 
Awake I have. 

982
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,440
To be we're on a podcast. 
We've got no choice. 

983
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Thank. 
You so much for listening. 

984
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:46,480
We've absolutely. 
Loved having you with us. 

985
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,080
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986
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,840
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987
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988
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989
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990
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991
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:06,880
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992
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