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Good morning. 
You're so good to see you. 

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I hope your Bible just flops 
open to Romans chapter 8 because

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you've been buried in that for 
the last few weeks like one 

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does. 
For those who are not familiar 

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with the fact that we're going 
through Romans 8, I'll give you 

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a chance to page your way there.
While you do that, I do want to 

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have a little bit of a shout out
to those watching online. 

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There's a friend of mine, he was
home injured last Sunday and he 

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was watching a live streaming. 
I don't know if you know, but we

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we live stream our services in 
the mornings. 

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And his comment back to me, he 
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many hundreds of people were 
watching and how many hundreds 

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of people stopped watching 
halfway through. 

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He said, you know, by halfway 
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than 10% of those who started. 
And he mentioned it to his wife 

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and his wife made a most 
profound and insightful comment 

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on that. 
She said, yeah, it's because we 

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don't like God getting into our 
business. 

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We don't like to be challenged 
by Scripture. 

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You know, come and pander to my 
needs. 

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Come. 
And yeah, my itchy ears need to 

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hear what I want to hear. 
Don't challenge me. 

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Don't, don't challenge my 
worldview. 

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Don't confront the sin in my 
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So in light of that, I want to 
start a little differently today

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because I want to remind you of 
who it is that is speaking into 

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our lives. 
It's not me, the one who gives 

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us his word. 
And I want to start by reminding

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you I've shared it. 
If you if you knew you might 

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have missed it. 
But about six months ago, I 

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introduced you to a star called 
Beetlejuice and we'll pop good 

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old Beetlejuice up as such a 
stunning image. 

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But here's the thing, right? 
I want to recalibrate your 

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thinking. 
So if we were to take our our 

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sun and we had to shrink it down
to the size of this golf ball, 

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now you've got to remember that 
this guy, our sun is, can fit 

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1.3 million earths inside of it.
And if we had to shrink it down,

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then that would be the size of 
Beetlejuice in comparison. 

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All right, now that's 
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I love the universe. 
I love looking at this because 

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it makes me feel so small. 
But my son seems to carry the 

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same fascination with the 
universe, and he introduced me 

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to 10618. 
There's this photo that came out

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now it's a little bit, it's 
meant to be blurry because that 

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was the picture that we got at 
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It's a black hole. 
And recently what they did was 

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they put it through AI and they 
managed to basically produce a 

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picture that will show you the 
dimensions. 

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If that is 10618, that's our 
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And you know what? 
Here's the craziest thing that 

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was put into the sky. 
It was created when God said let

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there be. 
And He didn't just say let there

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be. 
He said Romans 85. 

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Those who live according to the 
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what the flesh desires. 
How pathetically piddly and 

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puny, but those who live in 
accordance with the spirit, with

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the spirit, have their mindset 
on what the spirits desires. 

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The mind governed by the 
pathetic puny flesh is death, 

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but the mind governed by the 
spirit is life. 

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Underline life. 
Circle it in your Bible. 

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If if you don't have a pen, use 
your wife's lipstick. 

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Sir, life, the Spirit is life 
and peace, but the mind governed

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by the flesh is hostile to that 
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It does not submit to that God's
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And those who are in the realm 
of the flesh cannot please this 

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God. 
Verse 10 But if Christ is in 

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you, then even though your body 
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sin, the Spirit gives life 
circle life again because of 

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righteousness. 
And if the spirit of him who 

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raised Jesus from the dead is 
living in you, he who raised 

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Christ from the dead will also 
give life to your mortal bodies 

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because of his Spirit who lives 
in now if you've circled life 

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three times, you'll notice that 
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God is talking about coming into
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body, mind and soul. 
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And over the last few weeks 
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Last Sunday Kai preached on our 
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Today I want to preach on the 
spirit giving life to your body.

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So the verse, verse 11. 
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Jesus from the dead is living in
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the dead will also give life to 
your mortal body because of his 

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spirit who lives in you. 
And so today I want to just 

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simply touch on healing. 
Are you heard right? 

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Healing. 
I've never preached on healing 

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before. 
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two of them. 
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healing is complicated because 
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Suffering hurts. 
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are suffering, that's when we 
cry out to God for healing and 

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being healed or not being healed
actually has an effect on your 

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outlook of life. 
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This is 1 aspect that 
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spiritual gifts that many people
may respond to poor preaching 

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with a yawn. 
I've had that many times, but 

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they'll respond to an unmet 
request for healing by 

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redefining the God that pray to 
because healing is complicated. 

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I'm preaching on healing today 
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with us this weekend who's 
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I'm preaching on healing today 
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wheelchair walk and he's still 
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healing is complicated. 
The irony of ironies is that the

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God preaching is struggling with
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Went in for an operation a few 
weeks back and the prayer that I

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prayed the most and actually was
prayed over me and most was Lord

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pray that when they cut open his
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and goes, there's nothing wrong.
He's healed. 

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And instead, and my surgeon's 
here this morning, he opened up.

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It's actually worse than I 
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complicated. 
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complicated #2 healing is not 
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I I was going to use a 
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tell a true story. 
Years ago, we were still in the 

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tent. 
I was preaching my guts out, 

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presenting the gospel as best as
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And then I did what every 
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Gave an altar call a few times 
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And eventually, just before I 
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And he came forward all the way.
No worse roar. 

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It wasn't my wife. 
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everyone to stand and we all 
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The sinners prayed together. 
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I went and I looked for him 
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we haven't made some, Steven, 
congratulations. 

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Listen, I'd love to buy you a 
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And he sort of took me by the 
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He said, listen, actually I've 
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I just felt so bad. 
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buried the body. 
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If I was to say after that 
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again, we don't stop preaching 
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response. 
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save because Kipi came forward 
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We don't abandoned the gospel 
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salvation. 
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preaching is a gift of the 
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spirit. 
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healing is not complicated. 
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1 Corinthians chapter 14 verse 
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the gifts of the Spirit, and 
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And that's where we get the word
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NTH degree. 
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says earnestly desire the gifts 
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zeal. 
Strive for with a godly jealousy

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to have the gift of healing, or 
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gift of praying in tongues, or 
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teaching or the gift of 
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Strive for. 
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we like to sidestep healing 
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100% hit rate. 
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before we look at praying for 
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Firstly #1 healing. 
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Healing is grounded in God's 
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Healing is grounded in God's 
Word and character. 

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OK healing wasn't created by 
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We find it like right at the 
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of scripture you find Abraham 
praying for Abimele because his 

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wife was infertile, prayed for 
her Baroness and she got healed.

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You see in in one King's a 
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and raises him from the dead and
two kings you find naman with 

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leprosy coming to Elisha. 
He says dip in the river 7 times

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and he was healed of leprosy. 
You know, actually in the book 

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of Exodus, right at the very 
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God introducing himself as 
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It's in the word and it's in his
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just oozes out of Jesus 
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You know, Jesus prayed for the 
blind and they got to see the 

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sick and they were healed. 
The paralytic were running 

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around the the dead were raised.
Hello Lazarus. 

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And Jesus says, I only do what I
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in his very nature and character
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And then of course you got the 
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disciples and the church, Peter 
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Silver and gold. 
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which I have given unto thee. 
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Walking and leaping and praising
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Paul, the guy who wrote Romans 
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He prayed for a kid who'd fallen
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he hit the floor. 
The boy was raised from the 

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dead, shipwrecked on Malta, 
prayed for the chief official, 

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got healed. 
Peter. 

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It seemed that there was so much
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Acts that they would allow 
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that his shadow would pass him 
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We don't do much of that at 3 
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But healing is grounded in God's
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part of the church's ministry. 
I've actually written part of 

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the body's ministry. 
But some of us are unfamiliar 

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with the terminology. 
See the body, you and I, we're 

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the body of Christ. 
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the Elvis and deacons and the 
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Healing is part of the church's 
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Some are so that when Jesus sent
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teach and declare the Kingdom of
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times. 
He also said, oh, and make sure 

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you heal the sick. 
But that is that is an 

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understatement. 
His words were heal the sick, 

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raise the dead, cleanse the 
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How's that for a Plumb line? 
You know it's not find that 

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auntie with a headache raise the
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The Bible doesn't shy away from 
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it also doesn't glamorize and 
glorify healing like we like to 

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do. 
There's not hush hush on one 

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side just in case you don't get 
any healings, but it also 

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doesn't make it some kind of 
extra special thing. 

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It just lumps it in there with 
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teaching and preaching. 
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follow a formula. 
I'm going to read it. 

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It's a rather lengthy one, but 
Jordan Singh says the following 

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says one of the fascinating 
things about studying healing 

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ministry in scriptures, the 
wonderfully diverse way the many

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stories of healing unfold. 
Peter's mother-in-law was healed

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as soon as Jesus took her hand, 
but the 10 lepers didn't 

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experience the healing until 
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Jesus healed A servant's ear by 
touching it, but the woman with 

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the issue of blood was healed 
when she snuck up on Jesus and 

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touched him. 
Jairus's daughter was 

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resurrected from death 
immediately when Jesus called 

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her, but the blind man in bed 
said and needed Jesus to touch 

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him twice before he saw clearly.
Jesus ordered a man to stretch 

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out his withered hand, and the 
man was healed as he tried the 

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impossible, but the centurion 
servant was healed over a 

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considerable distance just by 
Jesus word. 

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The paralytic lowered down to 
Jesus through a roof, was first 

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forgiven of his sins and then 
healed. 

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But when Jesus healed the man 
born blind, he assured his 

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disciples that sin played no 
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Jesus healed through touch, 
commands, declaration. 

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Sometimes he applied saliva, 
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required both, neither. 
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little later on. 
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for a step by step approach to 
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is not the book for you. 
There is no formula. 

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It's almost like Jesus goes out 
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I hate that because I'm a 
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Just tell me what to do. 
Tell me what I need to price the

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magic words so that Torsen gets 
out of his wheelchair. 

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So the thing about elders is 
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if you sit, come to the elders, 
they'll launch you with oil. 

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And then it's got this very 
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and the fervent pray of a 
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the King James Version. 
And so there was a time when we 

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were getting a lot of people 
coming through to be prayed for 

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by the elders and we never saw 
one healing. 

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And so maybe it's lack of 
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that I'm righteous, but there 
was no availa thing of anything 

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to the point where eventually I 
said, Lord, I don't know. 

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I don't know what I believe 
about healing. 

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I definitely know it's not a 
gift that I have. 

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And I sort of talked it off 
until a friend of mine phoned 

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and said, listen, just come back
from the Doctor, got cancer, 

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please can you come and pray? 
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So of course, like a good 
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I'll be there, hang up. 
I'm like, oh Lord, I don't know 

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what to do. 
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the time Rory was had, I had a 
conversation in Rory's office 

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because I'd noticed there was 
something different in Rory when

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he was praying. 
And I was like, what, What is 

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this? 
I recognize there's a power 

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there. 
And he began to explain to me 

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how he is praying Scripture. 
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chatting to my mates, that was 
the first thing I thought. 

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I thought, Lord, I'm going to 
ask you for Scripture, that I'm 

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going to pray for him and then 
pray over him. 

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And for about two weeks, just 
going through usual rhythms, 

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morning quiet time, and on a 
random morning, a random portion

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of Scripture, I came across 
Ezekiel 37, which is the Valley 

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of Dry Bones. 
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there is God says to to Ezekiel,
can these bones live? 

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And he's like, probably not, but
you know, Lord, which is a 

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really great way to get out of 
jail. 

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So caught my attention because 
I'm like, yeah, Ezekiel also 

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didn't believe that God, but OK.
But then I knew that I knew this

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was the portion of Scripture. 
And so I went over that. 

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Now we prayed and it's weird. 
I don't know if you've read 

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Ezekiel 37. 
Like he's calling the breath 

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from the north and the South and
the east and the West and 

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speaking to the tendons and 
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So I did that a few times and 
then I found and said, listen, 

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I'm ready to come pray. 
Went across there and I'm 

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thinking it's going to be him 
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Turns out it was him and his 
extended family and the guy that

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they met at the cafe the week 
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And he uses like, oh, and so we 
do what we do, praying little 

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bits, anointing with oil. 
And then I grab my Bible. 

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I scoot up in front of him, sits
on the coffee table, knees and 

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knees, and I go through Ezekiel 
37, calling the breath from the 

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But in the moment, something 
changed. 

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I knew that God had done 
something only if it was just in

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me. 
I felt like I had discharged 

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what I was called to do. 
Like I've been faithful to what 

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God asked of me and that was it 
and I was happy with it. 

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And it's also the reason why I 
wasn't surprised when six weeks 

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later he found he says the 
doctor says I'm clear now. 

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Remember, it was you can clap 
enough for me. 

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I was one of like 5000 people 
and stuffed into that room 

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praying for him at that time. 
But you can't say that that's 

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now the formula. 
There was something there that I

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think is tied more to obedience 
than formula. 

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But there is is the power and 
praying Scripture? 

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Absolutely. 
But the next person, I'm not 

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going to go to Ezekiel 37 and 
pray that over because that's 

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the magic formula. 
Because if it was, then you 

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can't explain what happened to 
my knee about 3 weeks ago. 

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So those who here the evening 
service missed it. 

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But anyway, so had this knee 
operation of struggling with 

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deep vein thrombosis and got a 
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when you when you go for the 
sonar, they start to run the 

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groin and, and she said to me, 
she said, listen, if we find 

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anything, no sudden movements 
going straight to theater. 

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I'm not thinking of this is 
scary stuff. 

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Didn't find anything there. 
Went down to my knee. 

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She's like, OK, if we find 
something here, it's still 

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serious, but at least, you know,
it's like you went down my 

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table. 
Yeah, she was a delight. 

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So we didn't find anything at 
the knee. 

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We went down. 
We found it just below my cough.

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Anyway, so we were medicating, 
looking after this. 

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But about two or three weeks 
later, I'm sitting raw, was busy

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preaching. 
And the Sunday morning I knew 

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something wasn't right. 
I was uncomfortable. 

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I could feel my blood pressure 
was going up. 

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Eventually we had a meeting at 
lunchtime. 

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I had to excuse myself from the 
meeting. 

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I just had to get home. 
I wanted to tear the skin off my

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knee. 
I was in so much pain. 

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And that evening and I started 
contacting my doctor wanted to 

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find out, listen, what do I do? 
Because the best that I could 

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describe what was going on in my
head was this this clot was 

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moving because it around my 
knee. 

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It felt like shards of gloss. 
So I'm busy and comes with him 

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because it's a Sunday night. 
It's like I don't have medical 

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aid to cover these kind of 
things. 

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I'm thinking like this is just 
worst case scenario and like 

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that something changed. 
It felt like my knee had been 

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wrapped in barbed wire like a 
like a almost said catheter not 

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catheter barbed wire. 
Although it was about the same 

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pain, just not there. 
Like it, Like it. 

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Like a tourniquet. 
Yeah, that's it. 

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Yeah. 
It felt like this thing on my 

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knee, and then it was gone. 
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And the crazy thing was, in that
moment, I thought to myself, I 

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wonder if someone prayed for me.
And so I'd taken off my watch 

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because I was so irritable with 
everything. 

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So grabbed for my cell phone to 
see what the time was, You know,

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just in case you're having 
coffee with someone there. 

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Hey, how's your knee doing? 
Listen, I was praying for you. 

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Oh, we know it's Sunday. 
What time on Sunday? 

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So I wanted to know what the 
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And it was 635. 
And as I picked up my phone, my 

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phone buzzed. 
My son sent me a WhatsApp. 

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He was on camera, took a photo 
from the camera. 

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I said, hey, Dad, we're praying 
for you. 

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Hands are three CR forward now, 
to be really honest, now we're 

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talking about formula, right? 
I didn't even think to pray. 

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I wasn't quoting any scripts 
over myself. 

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Rory thought to mention it had 
everyone and I was healed. 

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Brilliant. 
Yeah. 

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There's no formula. 
I want to tell you my favorite 

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story. 
My daughter had kidney failure. 

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We nearly lost about 18 months 
ago in ICU for many, many weeks.

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And in that moment, of course, 
we're praying, man, are we 

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praying or we prayed ourselves 
silly. 

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And so you've got enough. 
No, you're left with no more 

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words. 
People would. 

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They arranged parking lot prayer
meetings. 

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I think one of the teachers from
his school and there were 

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hundreds of people that pitched 
up. 

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They were even strangers sort of
walking into the hospital. 

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What's going on here? 
We're praying for a girl. 

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And they would join in on the 
pre meetings. 

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So there was a lot of pre going 
on and a lot of messages, a lot 

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of support and a lot of love and
care. 

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And in the midst of all of this,
and I kid you not, no 

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exaggeration, I was getting 
about 1000 messages a week. 

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People wanting to know how she's
doing, what can we do? 

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And in the midst of all of this,
and my wife was getting probably

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as much, if not more because 
she's much nicer than I am, she 

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got a message that seemed to pop
out in between all the noise. 

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Can I please come and pray for 
your daughter? 

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So she comes to me. 
She says, listen, let this 

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person wanting to come and pray 
for Jim. 

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And so I said what every pastor 
said, no, yeah, we are fighting 

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life and death here. 
Thank you. 

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But but she can pray from home. 
And a few days later, Catholics,

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listen, I think, I think there's
something in this. 

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So I said, OK, wonderful, you go
have coffee with her and she can

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pray in the coffee shop. 
So Kath did and she comes back. 

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She said, listen, she really 
wants to lay hands on Gemma. 

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And when she said that, I don't 
know. 

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I think it was could only be the
Holy Spirit saying actually 

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respond to this. 
And so I said, OK, she can come 

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and pray for Gemma. 
And Kath's like she said, we 

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must go there. 
Like you've got to be kids. 

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Like, OK, OK, we'll go there 
against my better judgment. 

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So we take my little girl to 
Rena's house. 

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Lovely couple, elderly couple. 
She's been praying for Gemma 

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ever since she heard. 
And she tells us the story of 

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how she's been praying and 
introduce, you know, gets to 

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know my girly and then lays 
hands on her and prays for her 

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There. 
Nothing happened. 

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There was no sparkles or sparks 
or, you know, the house didn't 

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shake. 
But as we closed, as we said, 

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I'm in sort of like, you know, 
you sort of bending over your 

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knees like this. 
I sit up and my eye catches 

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something up on the wall and I 
look up and it's this horrible 

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dirty mark on the wall. 
I quickly divert my eyes and she

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sees that I've seen that they 
haven't cleaned the place. 

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And she's like, oh, did you? 
Did you see that? 

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I'm like, what is that? 
She said, no, this room was 

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struck by lightning. 
So when I looked more carefully,

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it looked like fingers like like
roots growing through rock, 

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these black lines across there 
said really says when was it 

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set? 
No, just this week, she said. 

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And she told us her routine. 
She said every night since I 

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heard about your daughter, my 
husband and I will come to this 

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room. 
It was their fancy lounge. 

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Come there, pray. 
They would start by having 

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communion together. 
And then he would go to the to 

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bed and read and she would pray 
for about an hour for my 

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daughter. 
And she said this week that was 

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her normal routine, but after 
having communion, she just 

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thought, you know, let me take 
the cup and the bread and 

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everything, go put it back in 
the kitchen and come and pray. 

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She'd never done that before. 
She comes out of the kitchen and

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the house gets struck by 
lightning. 

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That room got struck by 
lightning. 

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And she said it's like, you 
know, the movies where the IT 

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hits you like in your hairs 
going back and everything. 

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But she said it was like this 
white, like Tron white wall of 

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power that just came straight 
through her like this. 

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She walked into the place and 
there were these tiny little 

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flower fires everywhere because 
the chandelier had exploded and 

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there was molten glass just all 
over the room. 

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You look at their furniture, 
these tiny little black burnt 

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Bluffs everywhere. 
And she said that happened this 

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week and I went cold because in 
the Bible in Revelation, it 

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talks about the Angel of the 
Lord gathering the prayers of 

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the Saints, filling the bowls 
with the prayers of the Saints, 

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taking incense from the altar. 
And once that bowl is full, 

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throw down the lightning and 
peals of Thunder. 

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It's like this visceral image of
answered pray. 

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That was on the Saturday she 
laid hands on my daughter with 

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all your prayers and her prayers
in that bowl. 

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On the Monday we went to the 
doctor and she said, your 

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daughter's in remission. 
So what is the formula? 

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There isn't my knee. 
There was no faith whatsoever. 

449
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,600
I didn't even think to pray. 
Someone else did. 

450
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,240
Cancer in a place that can't be 
operated. 

451
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,800
Taps are from the Bible, Jim. 
It's every prayer you prayed, 

452
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:02,680
every scripture you quoted, and 
a little bit of lightning thrown

453
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,320
in between. 
But there's no formula. 

454
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,400
So what do we do when it comes 
to praying for the sick? 

455
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:15,840
Three things. 
Pray with faith, pray simply and

456
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,880
pray persistently. 
Pray with faith. 

457
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:25,200
Pray simply, pray persistently. 
Why pray with faith? 

458
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,520
Well, somehow the Bible seems to
link faith with prayer and onset

459
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,120
pray. 
Specifically, in Mark 6, Jesus 

460
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:35,600
goes about healing the sick, 
casting out demons. 

461
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,880
That goes into one town and he 
only does a few miracles and he 

462
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,960
says, and he observes that says 
he was amazed at their little 

463
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:44,920
faith. 
So faith plays a part. 

464
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,720
And then a little bit later when
he heals a blind man, he says 

465
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,320
your faith has made you. 
Well, there's there's something 

466
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,440
it's like God just wants to 
partner with us. 

467
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,560
And I've wrestled with this 
because in the past in three CR 

468
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:05,440
that has come like a stick. 
You don't have enough faith and 

469
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,880
I was like, Lord, what do I do 
with this because I know it is 

470
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,200
important and no faith is a 
factor. 

471
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,800
I don't want to minimize it 
because of the God that we serve

472
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,320
right, but I also don't want to 
put it up in a pedestal as a as 

473
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,800
a disqualification. 
And you know what I remember 

474
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,920
Romans 8 starts. 
There's therefore now no 

475
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,320
condemnation for those who are 
in Christ Jesus for what the law

476
00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,160
could not do because it weakened
by the flesh there where it says

477
00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:36,040
the law could not do or was 
powerless to do is it's a, it's 

478
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:43,800
a fertility word. 
It's like the law was infertile 

479
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,240
and it's, I felt like it was 
saying, you know what actually 

480
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:52,880
what we are called to just to 
allow the Spirit of God to sow 

481
00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:57,600
that seed in our hearts. 
It's a it's not a performance, 

482
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,040
it's a posture. 
It's becoming and saying, OK, 

483
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,840
Lord, I just want to remind 
myself that that's the God that 

484
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,440
I serve, That's the God that I'm
calling out to, but not only are

485
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,800
his ways higher than my ways, 
his thoughts are higher than my 

486
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:17,520
thoughts, but he's my father. 
And so I come with a posture and

487
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:21,080
that posture is 1, where we 
receive not in a performance 

488
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:24,400
mode to achieve, but a posture 
to receive. 

489
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,240
And so the Bible says in Hebrews
11 says without faith we can't 

490
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,520
please God because we've got to 
acknowledge that he exists, that

491
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,680
God exists, and that he rewards 
those who seek him. 

492
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:47,240
So firstly, we pray with faith. 
Secondly, pray simply, please 

493
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:54,520
pray simply. 
Matthew 6 says when you pray, do

494
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,120
not keep babbling on like the 
pagans. 

495
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,320
If you're going to go into the 
office on Monday, I heard the 

496
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,360
sermon sounded like you sniffed.
Can you give me 13 minutes so I 

497
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:12,280
can pray? 
No, when you pray, do not keep 

498
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920
babbling, unlike the pagans, but
they think they'll be heard 

499
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,360
because of their many words. 
Do not be like them. 

500
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,080
I went and I looked at Jesus 
like what's our example here? 

501
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:31,200
Says to the leper, be clean. 
Says to Lazarus, come forth to 

502
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,880
the paralytic. 
Pick up your mat and go the man 

503
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,560
with a withered hand. 
Stretch out your hand when you 

504
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,080
pray. 
Don't keep babbling on like the 

505
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,200
pagans because they think they 
will be heard because of their 

506
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,200
many words. 
Don't be like them. 

507
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:50,560
Toast and stand. 
And lastly, pray persistently. 

508
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,160
I think this is where we need to
start. 

509
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,120
So for those who are visiting, 
those who haven't been in three 

510
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,960
CR for long, God is doing 
something here, something 

511
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,360
unprecedented, which is why we 
mentioned the the salvations 

512
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,160
last week, 20 or 30 people 
coming forward and it wasn't a 

513
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,760
rah rah, come on you sooner you.
It was just hey, listen, I just 

514
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,720
really felt and people 
responded. 

515
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,160
The Holy Spirit has been poured 
out in ways that I've never seen

516
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,640
before. 
Lives are being changed 

517
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:25,600
radically, and the gifts are we 
encouraged. 

518
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,000
And one of them, I believe, is 
praying for the sick. 

519
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,840
So you're going to pray for the 
sick, and they might be healed 

520
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,760
and they might not. 
But John Wimber came across the 

521
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,000
same thing. 
I don't know if you know John 

522
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,520
Wimber. 
If memory serves correct, I 

523
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,520
think he actually started the 
Vineyard churches. 

524
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:43,400
OK. 
Yeah. 

525
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,840
So he did so way back when. 
This was probably like 70s, 

526
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,760
maybe even in the 60s, many, 
many years ago. 

527
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,240
And they had the same experience
where they came to this point 

528
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,680
where it just seemed like God 
was leaning in like he had never

529
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,760
done before through the history 
of the Vineyard Church. 

530
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,800
And so he allowed the Holy 
Spirit to lean in. 

531
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,480
And they were learning to lean 
into the Holy Spirit and the 

532
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:05,960
things in the ways of the 
spirit. 

533
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,240
And when they came to this thing
of healing, they actually 

534
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:12,720
stopped. 
They felt God wanted to pour out

535
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,240
the gift of healing in their 
midst. 

536
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,800
And so here's a quote. 
This is kind of where I think we

537
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,000
might be at in our journey with 
Jesus, Said we prayed and prayed

538
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,800
and prayed for healing and we 
were disappointed and 

539
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:33,000
disappointed and disappointed. 
Said we kept at it for 9 or 10 

540
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,600
months and finally we got one. 
I did a thing. 

541
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,840
Then we prayed twice as much for
twice as long until finally we 

542
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,200
got another. 
That's when the floodgates 

543
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,800
opened and the healing we prayed
for persistently became 

544
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:55,280
ordinary. 
We prayed and prayed and prayed,

545
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,720
disappointed and disappointed 
and disappointed, prayed twice 

546
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,840
as much for twice as long. 
That's when the floodgates 

547
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,160
opened. 
So I'm going to close now, but 

548
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,960
I'm going to close with this. 
We're not going to be praying 

549
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,960
for healing. 
I want to pray for healers. 

550
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:14,160
So I'm going to invite you if 
you feel stirred in any way that

551
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,640
Lord, yo, you can use me or 
maybe like NASA, apparently, 

552
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:24,000
who's said from a young age, I 
so long to have the gift of 

553
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,240
healing. 
If that's you, would you stand 

554
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,360
so we can pray. 
It's not a better than a 

555
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:34,120
hierarchy thing. 
It's just if the spirit of God 

556
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,120
has said that to you. 
All right, where you are. 

557
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,200
Let's let's just open our hearts
and our hands. 

558
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,960
Heavenly Father on behalf of 
everyone standing. 

559
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:47,280
We just want to, we want to 
present our hands to you. 

560
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,640
We ask for your anointing. 
We ask that you to confirm your 

561
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,320
word with signs and wonders 
following that, that these hands

562
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,840
when laid on the sick would see 
your power flow and that we'd 

563
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,600
see healing. 
Thank you Lord Jesus name. 

564
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:09,480
Stay standing. 
Those of you who are sitting and

565
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,840
are sick, can you raise your 
hand? 

566
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,880
If you're sick here? 
Those who are standing, look 

567
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:22,360
around and please go pray. 
For those with hands, rest. 

568
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,160
If you're sick in any form or 
fashion, raise your hand. 

569
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,960
We'd love to come and pray. 
Those who are standing, go pray.

570
00:33:34,730 --> 00:33:36,210
Keep your hand up until you got 
someone. 

571
00:33:37,850 --> 00:33:42,650
Pray with faith, pray simply, 
and pray persistently. 

572
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:18,040
I love that we've got people 
looking Heavenly Father, we just

573
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:23,880
want to want to bring this word 
to you and we bring what you are

574
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,920
doing in three CR with just a 
measure of outpouring of your 

575
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:29,239
Holy Spirit. 
And we pray. 

576
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,199
We pray that we would be those 
who are listening, who are 

577
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:36,560
looking, who are noticing a 
need. 

578
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080
And we say, Father, if you can 
use us, use us to make ourselves

579
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,880
available, we pray, Lord God, 
that you would anoint us. 

580
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,080
We pray, Holy Spirit, that you 
would flow through us. 

581
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:53,199
But also pray, Father, for the 
faith to pray persistently even 

582
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,360
though we might not see it 
immediately, that we would trust

583
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,680
that you'd be faithful to Your 
Word, and that you would impart 

584
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,440
to us the gift of healing in 
Jesus name, Amen.

