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It's where normal people share 24 00:02:01,060 --> 00:02:04,980 their abnormal stories. And if you enjoy true stories of 25 00:02:04,980 --> 00:02:08,740 the strange and terrifying, then you're in the right place. 26 00:02:09,500 --> 00:02:23,480 I'm your host, Chris Frickey. When I was a kid, my brother and 27 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,280 I borrowed our uncle's metal detector for the day. 28 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,200 We had a blast searching for buried treasure, and I think we 29 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,120 may have found a hubcap, but nothing out of the ordinary. 30 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,920 Metal detecting can be a quiet escape, listening to the soft 31 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:46,120 rhythm of beeping signals beneath the soil all around us. 32 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:51,920 The ground we walk on, though calm and unassuming, sometimes 33 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:54,800 hides things never meant to be found. 34 00:03:00,890 --> 00:03:05,730 In today's story, a detectorist named Ray went to explore a 35 00:03:05,730 --> 00:03:08,770 forgotten trail in San Angelo, TX. 36 00:03:09,610 --> 00:03:13,690 It was supposed to be a simple day of treasure hunting, but it 37 00:03:13,690 --> 00:03:17,970 soon became a descent into something much darker. 38 00:03:19,170 --> 00:03:24,600 This is his story. My name is Ray Tice. 39 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:30,440 I'm 35 years old and born and raised in Central Texas and went 40 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:38,080 to college between 2008 and 2014 in San Angelo, TX, which is not 41 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,760 extremely far western Texas but in the western part of it. 42 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,640 I was a history major specializing in Texas history, 43 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:51,200 and when I was in college I had the dream job of a history 44 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,960 major. I got to work at a historical 45 00:03:54,680 --> 00:04:00,040 archives repository called the West TX Collection and I worked 46 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:06,000 there from 2009 to 2014 when I had to leave college. 47 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:10,800 I've been pretty much an avid metal detectors all my life and 48 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,600 being a history major and working in this historical 49 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:20,480 archives had access to a lot of old maps that most people don't 50 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:24,640 normally get to see and a lot of them that you can only find in 51 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,920 historical archives. In San Angelo there used to be a 52 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,440 an old military Fort during the Old West days. 53 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:37,400 It was called Port Concho. It was established in 1867 and 54 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:44,120 abandoned in 1885, I believe from Port Concho was a pretty 55 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,680 major outpost on the what was then the West TX frontier. 56 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,760 And so they had all these old Calvary trails, Buffalo Soldiers 57 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:58,120 where they headquartered there. And a lot of metal detectorists 58 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,440 would found the old trail sites and even some battle, you know, 59 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,640 minor battle sites and whatnot like that. 60 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,600 Being where I was at, at the historical archives, I had 61 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,440 access to old military maps from the time of the Fort, you know, 62 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:17,880 actual military maps that show the old trails and their their 63 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,520 location and whatnot. And there was one in particular 64 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,720 that I never really heard many other metal detectors talk about 65 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,360 metal detectors. It was South of San Angelo and 66 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,920 on the opposite side of the South Concho River. 67 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,360 And basically it was old military trail that went from 68 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,000 Fort McCabe, Texas to Fort Concho. 69 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:42,560 It was kind of tucked back in an isolated area right on the edge 70 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,720 of a large ranch, a private property. 71 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,680 And anyhow, nobody ever really wanted to, you know, wade 72 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,160 through the, the woods and the, the brush and whatnot, which 73 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,880 wasn't like a rainforest. It was just the kind of thick 74 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,000 woods, oak trees, corn trees, stuff like that. 75 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,920 So anyhow, I always wanted to metally detect that trail, that 76 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,160 part of the trail, because no one else that I knew had ever 77 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:10,800 done it. I think it was around 2013. 78 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,280 I remember I was dating the girl who become my wife. 79 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,080 She was at work. I had the day off and can't 80 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,520 remember, it was late January or early February. 81 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,280 Brush was not scenic. It was kind of just right up and 82 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:25,800 you know, weed, you know, hit by winter. 83 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,280 I didn't have to worry too much about, you know, snakes coming 84 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:32,440 out or anything like that because it was still pretty cold 85 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,480 outside. I decided, well, you know what, 86 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,840 I'm going to go hit up that old trail and see what I can find. 87 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:44,520 I got my gear on which I had my metal detector, 1/2 apron with 88 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,560 pockets on the front, and then I had a triangular shaped shovel. 89 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:57,360 The nearest parking space was maybe half a mile from where the 90 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,240 trail was physically at. And I got all these distance 91 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,920 from Google Earth, you know, researching the trail and 92 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:08,920 whatnot. You know, it's probably about 93 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,840 mid morning. I get to the parking lot and I, 94 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:17,600 you know, have a pair of cowboy boots on and just head into the 95 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:24,960 brush. I said I knew, you know where 96 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,920 the trail was at and I knew the direction from the parking lot 97 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,720 and I didn't have to worry about snakes or anything like that 98 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,520 because it was still cold. So I was like, you know what, 99 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,360 I'm just going to head straight into the brush instead of 100 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,920 following the river, then get to the trail and turning into the 101 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:41,920 brush. I probably got, well, probably 102 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:47,360 halfway to the site when I started passing through these 103 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,680 thick cluster of trees and 40 to 50 yards back from the river, so 104 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,120 they would be South of the river. 105 00:07:55,840 --> 00:08:01,560 And I get to this 20 foot wide clearing that kind of tucked 106 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,000 back into to the trees. It's kind of like natural 107 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,120 clearing. And the first thing I see is 108 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:14,720 cans laying on the ground. Yeah, it looks like, you know, 109 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,600 just like a can of beans without the wrapper on them, you know, 110 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,520 just silver. You can tell they weren't old, 111 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,120 but you can tell someone had been there these for, you know, 112 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,880 half a day or you know, a day. I'd been camping there and so 113 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:31,160 that kind of struck me as odd. I walked a little bit further 114 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:38,080 into the clearing and I come across this roughly made 115 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:43,600 campsite that basically was a tent made out of a blue, blue 116 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,240 canvas. That's like a blue canvas tarp. 117 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,840 You'd find that Ace Hardware or wherever. 118 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:54,320 I remember there being some clothes, I want to say they were 119 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,120 kind of half in the tent, half not out, you know, not in the 120 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,560 tent. Now looking back now, it looked 121 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:04,960 like female clothes, like a kind of like a female checkered 122 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,360 shirt, you know, like a Pearl snap shirt or whatnot. 123 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:12,600 I initially thought it was just a formal campsite of an illegal 124 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,160 alien, you know, and that's one thing they leave around is 125 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,440 clothes. San Angelo in that area has a 126 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,800 lot of illegal immigrants. So I was like, well, you know, 127 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,480 if someone's around here, I'll just mind my business. 128 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,640 They mind theirs. You know, about the time I'm, 129 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:31,080 I'm starting to leave, keep going towards a trail which was 130 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,840 still back a little ways from this campsite. 131 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:40,640 This guy comes out of the brush. I startle him as much as he 132 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:46,080 startled me and he was kind of a hagger looking guy, a beard that 133 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,880 needs to be trimmed up a little bit. 134 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,800 And the clothes were kind of all dirty and muddy. 135 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,160 And he kind of jumped back and he saw me in like that and did 136 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,320 the same. We kind of made little idol 137 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,120 chitchat. You know, he was like, hey. 138 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:03,200 And I was just kind of like, hey, just encountering someone 139 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:07,320 in this, you know, environment automatically triggers, you 140 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,240 know, a sense in me that something's going on here that I 141 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,800 shouldn't be Privy to, but, you know, had to stay calm and not 142 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,760 not show it. You know, he asked me is like, 143 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,000 hey, what are you doing back here so far back? 144 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:22,400 You know, he could see all the stuff on me, you know, the. 145 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:24,320 Yeah, all the gear I was carrying. 146 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,320 Yeah. I told him just a metal 147 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,760 detectorist. And, you know, I was out looking 148 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,520 for, you know, just kind of poking around and he's like, 149 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,480 what are you looking for? So I told him I was like, yeah, 150 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,640 you know, there's this old military trail back here. 151 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,640 And while I was kind of talking with him, you know, the inner 152 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:46,360 voice, my head said, hey, I kind of need to fit a little bit just 153 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,680 to ensure that if now he's a threat that, you know, he just 154 00:10:51,680 --> 00:10:54,920 kind of leaves me alone. So, you know, I started telling 155 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,920 about the military trails, but I told them, yeah. 156 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,040 Yeah. A lot of metal detectorists know 157 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,400 about it. It's kind of a common place to 158 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,960 come just for people to poke around and, you know, not be 159 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,440 disturbed by kids coming up and wondering what you're doing and 160 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,080 stuff like that. When I told him that, he kind 161 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,840 of, you could tell it kind of took him aback a little bit 162 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,680 because he kind of started, like, looking, you know, flicker 163 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:20,120 in his eyes somewhat. You tell he was just kind of 164 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:24,240 like, oh, in his mind kind of thing, hey, maybe I should move 165 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,720 my camp somewhere else. Overall, seemed like a pretty 166 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:31,720 nice guy that, you know, he said that he and his wife had had a 167 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,920 fight and she somewhat kind of kicked him out and he just 168 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,800 decided to stay in the woods for a little while. 169 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,360 You know, really, the story didn't make any sense to me. 170 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,920 You know, I was like, man, that's kind of, you know, 171 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,280 roughing it a little more than I would expect after, you know, 172 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,840 kind of a dispute with my wife. But, you know, I wasn't married 173 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,040 at the time. I was engaged but not married. 174 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,720 You know, they will people, people do their own things, you 175 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,040 know, and work through it in their own ways. 176 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,520 I kind of thought, well, man, like, you know, keep going and 177 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,280 what not, and I just wish the best for you and what not. 178 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:14,000 The simple little conversation kind of broke a barrier he had 179 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,080 in place. You know, he's saying, hey, you 180 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,800 know, you seem like a pretty good guy and, you know, just 181 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:22,080 don't come, you know, metal detect around my camp. 182 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,720 And he'd ask like, have you, you know, looked in my tent or 183 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:26,040 anything? And I told him no. 184 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:30,200 And truthfully, I hadn't because I just didn't want to be that 185 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:32,640 invasive, you know. And so I told him no, you know, 186 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,640 I'd accidentally stepped on one of the cans because it was kind 187 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,800 of in a high patch of grass, but that was about it. 188 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:44,160 And the guy's like, well, you know, don't come to the backside 189 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,160 of my tents because I just used the restroom back there. 190 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,760 I was like, hey, man, you know, you don't have to worry about 191 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,640 that with me. And like, I'm just going to keep 192 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,800 head to this trail over here. So after that, you know, we 193 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:05,560 parted ways. As I'm walking away from the, 194 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:10,400 the campsite, you know, I'm just like, man, it just seemed like 195 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,320 he was kind of following me, you know, at a distance or 196 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:14,720 something, just keeping his eyes on me. 197 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,320 And every so often, as I, you know, getting closer to the the 198 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:23,800 trail, I could hear someone moving behind me. 199 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,440 I've been an environmentalist all my life. 200 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:42,880 You know, I say environmentalist, but you know, 201 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,480 kind of hunt, grew up hunting and whatnot like that. 202 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:51,360 So I could tell the difference between human footsteps and 203 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:53,960 animal footsteps. Just something you develop 204 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,080 overtime into hunting and whatnot. 205 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,560 I'm trying not to pay it into mind, you know, just act like 206 00:14:00,560 --> 00:14:02,160 I'm just keeping minds in my own business. 207 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,800 But I know that he's trailing me. 208 00:14:10,680 --> 00:14:13,520 You know, I had a number of things I could have used in my 209 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:16,640 defense if the need arrived, you know, my belly, Packard, traded 210 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,480 shovel, whatnot. I got closer to the site and I 211 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,120 just didn't, didn't feel right. I won a medal to take in the 212 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,440 trail because I've been, you know, wanting to do it forever 213 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:31,000 now, but I don't know if I want to do it today. 214 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,400 It's kind of that, you know, that Spidey sense, I guess you 215 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:42,000 could say just going off. So I decided I'm not going to 216 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,160 metal detect today because I don't know who that guy was. 217 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,440 It's kind of weird. He had campsite back here in the 218 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:52,760 middle of nowhere. So I decided to make a hard left 219 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,960 towards the river. If I could find like a shallow 220 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,240 spot in the river to cross away to cross, I would just so I 221 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,200 could put the river between him and me. 222 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,280 So that's what I did. I turned towards the river and 223 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,200 when I reached it, I started following it back towards the 224 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,920 where the area where I parked my truck. 225 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,720 I never saw the guy, you know, on the way back to to my truck. 226 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,760 I I still think I heard I'm moving around a little bit, but 227 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,600 you know, never saw him again. I got to my truck and load up 228 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:33,040 and go home. Life goes on, and about two 229 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,440 years later, my wife and I had moved, relocated from San 230 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,080 Angelo. I see an article in this little 231 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:46,120 kind of local amateurish newspaper outlet in San Angelo 232 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:49,520 that posts a lot of stuff to Facebook and their website and 233 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,560 everything. And I'm reading through the 234 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,800 through the article and I see this headline the, I can't 235 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,600 remember the exact, you know, how it was worded, but suspect 236 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,240 apprehended in murder of his wife, you know, kind of, you 237 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,960 know, big title whatnot. And reading the article and it 238 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:12,880 showed a picture of the suspect who had basically murdered his 239 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:18,000 wife after an argument and buried her in that area of the 240 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,080 woods where I was metal detecting that day. 241 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:27,560 And the picture was of the guy that I had met in the wood that 242 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:33,440 very day. He had murdered his wife and 243 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,760 buried her. I don't know if he had done it 244 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,560 on the very day that I was there, but he had been on the 245 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,440 run for about two years because they couldn't find him when they 246 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:46,160 apprehended him. Yeah, he confessed to it all. 247 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,320 And he led them to the burial site, apparently, and retrieved 248 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,080 her remains. Like I said, I don't know if he 249 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,280 had done the ACT that day when I was out metal detecting, but 250 00:16:57,000 --> 00:17:03,160 just thinking back to the campsites, you know how kind of 251 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:07,440 nervous, you know, I don't, I don't recall seeing any blood on 252 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:09,520 him, so to say, or anything like that. 253 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:12,280 But he definitely was very muddy and, you know, like he had dug a 254 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,560 grave. Is there any way of knowing for 255 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:18,319 sure if that's the exact campsite where he did bury his 256 00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:20,280 wife? Unfortunately, I don't know 257 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,200 about that one. Yeah, that would be, I probably 258 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:27,359 had a police report and whatnot. But I do remember reading, like 259 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,600 I said in the article, that her body was found in that general 260 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,880 area and exactly how far back, you know, from the campsite and 261 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,680 whatnot like that. Yeah, I don't have those 262 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:42,600 details, but clearly wasn't too far back from where we were at. 263 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,960 Have you ever considered going back to that site? 264 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,320 I have actually like, you know, I'm still, there's still that 265 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,760 lingering things like, man, that that trail, I know it has, you 266 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,720 know, it kind of has a, that tantalizing effect. 267 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,800 That trail, you know, has never been metal detectors, you know, 268 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,000 telling what to find. But then it's kind of like, 269 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,720 yeah, I don't know if I want to go back there or not. 270 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:10,040 That was just a huge slap of reality to me as a metal 271 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:13,720 detectorist. From that point onward, any time 272 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:17,040 that I go metal detecting in kind of remote or isolated area, 273 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:21,320 I always make sure I carry an actual knife with me, an actual 274 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:26,680 booty knife or something, just because that whole event, man, 275 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:32,680 it was pretty unnerving. And you know, for anyone that 276 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,560 might be listening to your show, that in the metal detecting or 277 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,080 getting into metal detecting, the best advice I can give you 278 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:45,240 after all this is #1 make sure you know what you say in case 279 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,800 you encounter someone like me. If I, I don't know what would 280 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,360 have happened if I told them that. 281 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:52,960 Oh, yeah, the trail's not really known by anybody. 282 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:56,720 Yeah, always, always have a good line, good bluff in your head 283 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,320 and follow through with it. And if the need arises, and 284 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:04,400 always make sure you carry something that you can at least 285 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,520 use in your defense if you need to. 286 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,560 And always make sure you're aware of aware of what's out 287 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,200 there, what you, what you could encounter. 288 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,640 After doing some deep research to find an incident report on 289 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:27,720 this story, unfortunately neither Ray or I could track 290 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,680 down coverage of this event. I searched the San Angelo Live 291 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,920 Facebook page where Ray originally read the story, and I 292 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:41,280 mainly saw a similar story where a husband buried his wife at a 293 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:46,160 nearby Speedway track. Ray confirmed that this location 294 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:50,040 wasn't correct and the picture of the husband wasn't the same 295 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:55,200 man he encountered. I also reached out to the San 296 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,640 Angelo Police Department, but they haven't replied. 297 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:03,760 I searched for countless hours for additional news, audio clips 298 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:07,280 and resources. But I simply ran out of time. 299 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:12,240 So if any of you would like to track down this story, please do 300 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,360 so. Reach out to me on Instagram or 301 00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:19,360 comment below. 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