1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,080 This is a tunnel about the size of A2 lane. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:07,640 Highway well, I I had to go and at the end of the tunnel. 3 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,960 Were these two giant metal? Doors. 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,360 I stepped. In and merely knew I. 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,480 Was in a cavern. It's just a giant area from HV 6 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,400 Studio. This is unnerved. 7 00:00:47,140 --> 00:00:50,020 Welcome back to the Unnerved podcast. 8 00:00:50,620 --> 00:00:54,860 It's where normal people share their abnormal stories, and if 9 00:00:54,860 --> 00:00:59,300 you enjoy true stories of the strange and terrifying, then 10 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:03,140 you're in the right place. I'm your host, Chris Fricke. 11 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:19,480 Have you ever had the chance to watch the back rooms on YouTube? 12 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:25,520 It's a series of realistic mazes, sometimes underground, 13 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,440 that are discovered by unfortunate people. 14 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:34,760 The mazes themselves are endless spaces of empty rooms where the 15 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:39,120 visitor is alone and afraid, searching or an exit. 16 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,440 But there's always something evil lurking and following this 17 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:51,240 individual in the shadows. These videos, of course, are 18 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:57,240 fictional, but what if a similar maze actually existed in our 19 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:10,820 current reality underground? In today's story, John shares a 20 00:02:10,820 --> 00:02:15,620 discovery he found while camping in New Mexico that was meant to 21 00:02:15,620 --> 00:02:21,080 be left undisturbed. The secret that he found was not 22 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,880 just an entry point to an underground world, but a 23 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,160 mysterious element frozen in time. 24 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:34,400 This is his story. My name is John. 25 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,600 I am. A contracted researcher for the. 26 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:46,200 Military out here in New Mexico. My specialty is machine 27 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,400 learning. Deep general AI theory and 28 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,200 practice. Me and my colleagues, we 29 00:02:54,200 --> 00:03:01,800 basically run a team out in new. Mexico that takes the practice, 30 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:03,480 the theory of machine. Learning and. 31 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:08,080 Puts it into the. Field, So we might take for 32 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,520 instance. Robotics WE work with Robotics 33 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:14,920 team. We dump the software the the 34 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:20,040 instructions into. The physical, The physical. 35 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,480 Entity, the robot and the. Machine. 36 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:24,840 Learns based upon our perimeters. 37 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:28,280 That's the sort of research that we do. 38 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,040 We have clearance. Again, I don't. 39 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,240 I'm not a military. Person I just have clearance. 40 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,080 To be on this base. And. 41 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,040 The area that I. Work in is called White Sands 42 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:40,920 Missile. Range. 43 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,560 But it's not. It's not the missile range. 44 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,920 Let me explain that real fast White Sands Missile Range. 45 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Is a vast area. It's so large that if you take 46 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,800 the area of Delaware and. Rhode Island. 47 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,600 It's actually a little bit larger than that than those 48 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,440 combined. It has the missile range and 49 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,680 this is most. Famously known for testing 50 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,960 Trinity, which is the atomic bomb. 51 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:11,000 The first atomic bomb in like the northern area of the range. 52 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:12,960 And it's still used for. Testing. 53 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:17,200 But the area is so large it. Actually encompasses not only 54 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,920 different. Research areas, but it also has. 55 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,680 A military? A large Army base right in 56 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,880 there, and within it, White Sands National. 57 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Park. And the San Andreas National. 58 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Wildlife, Wildlife, Refuge, and these. 59 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,160 These areas are not remotely. Close to the. 60 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,280 Testing site? You can't. 61 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:40,280 Somehow wander in from the from White Sands, the National Park. 62 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Into the testing site, That's impossible. 63 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:47,000 It's impossible a because of the distance and B because highly 64 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,080 guarded, highly fenced. You're just not. 65 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:58,800 Going to be able to do it. My research area. 66 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,760 Is not anywhere near. The testing site the. 67 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,800 Land out there is dotted. By several different research 68 00:05:05,840 --> 00:05:09,000 areas. So my area is gated, I can go in 69 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:10,520 there. There's a few buildings, one 70 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:13,480 story buildings. It's not like a campus or 71 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,520 anything like that. There are campuses. 72 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:21,280 Of research, but you see that mostly in Los Alamos this area 73 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,840 is just sporadic. Few scientists coming in and 74 00:05:24,840 --> 00:05:27,160 out, some military personnel. If they're. 75 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,440 Looking at our designs or something like. 76 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,680 That and then. We're out there by ourselves and 77 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,840 we're quite a bit of ways. From any city or any. 78 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:40,080 Town Las Cruces is. 50 or something miles from my actual 79 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,280 research area. And that's a Southern. 80 00:05:42,280 --> 00:05:45,840 Area of New Mexico. Well, we get bored out there. 81 00:05:45,840 --> 00:05:49,200 There's not a lot going on. And we're at the base we're at, 82 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,320 we're out there all the time, almost 24. 7. 83 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,320 And if you know anything about. Southern New Mexico. 84 00:05:56,560 --> 00:06:00,760 It's one of the best stargazing areas for Continental. 85 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:04,040 United States, in fact, it's also for noise pollution. 86 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:05,600 One of the. Quietest areas in the 87 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,680 continental US, so in. White Sands Brings the National 88 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,680 Park Brings Out a. Ton of sky gazers and, you know, 89 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,360 lovers of nature, Wildlife, Refuge and whatnot. 90 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,080 And I. Love that too. 91 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:22,400 And so me and some of the colleagues, sometimes, if we're 92 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,080 working the weekends, have some time on our hands. 93 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,600 We'll go hiking back there. I take walks all the time in. 94 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,360 The forested area next to my. Research stations. 95 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:37,200 I'm not on the sands. The topography of the area is 96 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,480 it's really different. It's not just sands or dunes, 97 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,320 it's also southern. Mountainous. 98 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:47,520 Terrain, pine trees and whatnot, so I take quite a few. 99 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,560 Walks out there during my days and then on the weekends 100 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,960 sometimes we take. Long backpacking trips. 101 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,840 And be gone all. Weekend camp out there, there's 102 00:06:57,840 --> 00:07:01,400 no issues there. Federal land and we've got our 103 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,240 clearance. I map my trails because there's 104 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:10,280 no trail like you'd see in a National Park or National 105 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,320 Forest. It's just wilderness. 106 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:15,440 It's not cleared by a Ranger or. Anything like that? 107 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:20,560 And I map it with GPS. And so I know where I am and I'm 108 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,200 not. I'm comfortable with where I am, 109 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:24,480 enough to where I'm not. Too worried about getting lost. 110 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:27,160 I'm actually more worried about mountain lions, because there's 111 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,080 bear by bear. Mountain Lion. 112 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,520 One day I was. Out there, walking up. 113 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,520 Planned on being out there all weekend. 114 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,800 I was going to stargaze and just set up my tent and get away from 115 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,840 life. Then I was roughly. 15 miles 116 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,080 actually, I know exactly how far I was, It was about 14.2 miles. 117 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,120 Back in the Backcountry and you know you have to. 118 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,840 Bushwhack back there. You know, machete and grass can 119 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,920 get real high, so you're sort of making your own trail maybe. 120 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,080 Following an animal trail and I'd gone into the. 121 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Forest get some shade. I was a little bit. 122 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,600 Deeper in there and there are a few widow makers, which are 123 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,440 trees that are. Dead that call widow makers, 124 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,040 because if you're not paying attention in one of those falls, 125 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,760 it's going to kill you pretty easily so. 126 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,480 I'm down back there and I there's a downed branch, a 127 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,440 downed tree actually in my path. And this is the way I want to go 128 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,200 because it slopes up to my right and I don't want to go into the 129 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,320 ridges area. That's dangerous. 130 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,680 It slopes to my left. It becomes more of a plains 131 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,920 area, so sort of. On the on the. 132 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:36,120 Edge there of the forest and I dipped under this tree. 133 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,840 It was being sort of propped up by a live tree. 134 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,720 And as I'm doing that, I'm watching my footing. 135 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,000 And I look at the ground. And right underneath that. 136 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,560 Is a manhole and it's covered with some dirt and whatnot, but 137 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,120 this? This there. 138 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,560 Wasn't it wasn't overgrown? Underneath these trees, the 139 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,200 canopy wasn't allowing for high grass in that area, it's more 140 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:01,240 like almost muddy. And I was immediately perplexed. 141 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:10,760 By this I. Got out from my other. 142 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,120 Canopy a little bit. And started looking at the 143 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:16,240 ground more thoroughly to see if I could. 144 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Find a Rd. The Jeep trail, because it made 145 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,760 no sense that this manhole was that far out without there being 146 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,280 some sort of Rd. Was this area overgrown? 147 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,880 How old my mind immediately. Started going, started kicking 148 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:31,400 like. Why is this out here? 149 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,480 Is there sewage? Below me, but where would? 150 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,400 The sewage be coming from and. Why would it be flowing through 151 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,200 here? None of it made sense, but. 152 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,840 Again, I just sort of. Was like, OK, maybe there's 153 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,960 sewage down here. And I looked at the manhole. 154 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,320 And if you ever seen manholes? Looked up close. 155 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:52,760 They have like a fell, a keyhole and a special key has to go in 156 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,920 there to pry them open. Then they're heavy. 157 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:59,120 You're crazy heavy. Some of them are 150 lbs or 158 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,720 something like that. Well, this one. 159 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,920 Looked like it was open. Like I could actually pull it 160 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,240 open, and sure enough I could. And the way I knew that was that 161 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,560 I just sort of jiggled it and got my hand into the hole. 162 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:13,480 And I was like, oh, this thing got open. 163 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,840 It's heavy, but it's got locked. And I had my hiking. 164 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,840 Poles and those hiking poles are sturdy and I was just too 165 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:22,080 curious. Why is this out here? 166 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,520 So I pry it up, but I bent my hiking pole in order to get it 167 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,080 open. I finally got it open. 168 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,040 And pulled it up and I had at this. 169 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,760 Time I was getting. Close to leaving the camp 170 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:37,520 because I've been out there for a long time. 171 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,440 It takes a long time to walk that and. 172 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,920 I had my head lamp out so it. Wouldn't get dark on me without 173 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,160 me having some sort of a light source. 174 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:48,280 And when I looked down and there was a. 175 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,320 Ladder, which you would expect a small tunnel to go down couldn't 176 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:54,960 see was at the end of the ladder or how deep it was. 177 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,120 Well, I I had to go. I just. 178 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:02,240 I was just too curious. I was like what? 179 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:08,720 What is this? So I went down and the ladder 180 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,800 went about. It was a long ladder. 181 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,440 It was longer than I. Thought it was probably. 182 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:16,480 Oh, twenty. Maybe even 30. 183 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Feet and as I. Descended. 184 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,600 I couldn't see anything. So immediately it was kind of. 185 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:30,000 Gripping that ladder pretty hard as my curiosity got the best of 186 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:36,800 me, and also as my anxiety rose a little bit, I got down to the 187 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,320 bottom of this thing. And I immediately knew. 188 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,720 It was a tunnel. Shine my light. 189 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,560 To the left, to the right, North and South. 190 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:45,200 I knew I was. I knew which way was north, 191 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:49,000 because at the top of the ladder I'd I knew I was facing north. 192 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:54,120 So I knew which way was north. And my light even. 193 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,440 On the high beam it just, you know it goes some roughly twin 194 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,440 in pitch blackness you got. Maybe. 195 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:04,280 Probably 20 feet, 15 feet in. Front of you of of light. 196 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,080 And on. You know where the ladder was? 197 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:12,360 That was a wall. Smooth concrete but real smooth. 198 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,640 Underneath me concrete, real smooth. 199 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,480 And then on the other side, I could barely. 200 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,080 Make up the other wall and it was roughly the size the tunnel 201 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,520 about the size of A2 lane highway high. 202 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,280 Ceilings and a rounded. It didn't have a smell outside 203 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 of it, just. Slightly industrial, but I 204 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,600 didn't smell any sort of. Exhaust. 205 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:37,440 I didn't smell any, any. Fumes or oils or anything like 206 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,360 that. And so I decided to. 207 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:40,720 Walk. I'm going to walk north and 208 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,600 just. See what this is? 209 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:52,800 It's pitch black. I'm walking parallel to the 210 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,560 right wall with my hand. My right? 211 00:12:54,560 --> 00:12:57,360 Hand on the wall. And the whole time I'm walking, 212 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,080 I'm going very slow. I'm. 213 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,720 Feeling for any other ladders or anything that it might give me 214 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,080 a. Sense of space. 215 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,000 And I'm also in my. Head thinking What did I stumble 216 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:10,640 upon? This is a. 217 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,560 Tunnel clearly meant for transportation. 218 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:16,600 Vehicle transportation is not sewer clean. 219 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,920 My mind is going under base bunkers, research station. 220 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,400 I don't know pitch. Black and if you've. 221 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,400 Ever been in tunnels? The first thing I started 222 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,640 thinking. Was the houses ventilated and? 223 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,720 That's sort of an unusual. Thing to not smell exhaust 224 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,840 unless trucks just don't go through there well. 225 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,520 Tunnels are ventilated in different. 226 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,880 Ways, but a shorter tunnel. Basically it's almost like a 227 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:40,640 vacuum. It's. 228 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:45,040 Pushed pressure is pushed in from one end, southern end. 229 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,160 Gets pulled through by the trucks, aerodynamics pulls it in 230 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,480 and then at the other end it's pushed up. 231 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:56,600 With. Fans up and ventilated outside. 232 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,080 They don't all have that sort of ventilation, but I was. 233 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Thinking about ventilation, I was going. 234 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,800 Through there because I. Didn't smell anything. 235 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,480 Carbon dioxide doesn't have a. Smell, you know. 236 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:07,480 Should be worried about that, but. 237 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,280 Other than sort of working. Out the logistics of it, the 238 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,160 physics of it. I wasn't too worried about that. 239 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:19,760 So I kept going and I walked for 2025 minutes. 240 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:20,440 I know. That. 241 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,640 By the way, my cell phone was completely out of Commission. 242 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,600 There was no bars. There was no GPS. 243 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,080 It was once I. Descend on that ladder only. 244 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:33,040 Even just a few feet, it all cut out. 245 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,960 So I knew how long I had walked only by the time I. 246 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,720 Spent in there and. Because of my. 247 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:43,440 Pace. I estimate that I walked roughly 248 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:47,120 1000 meters, which is about half a mile in One Direction. 249 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:52,280 And. After. 25 minutes or so. 250 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,840 Getting a little bit. Paranoid. 251 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Is a truck going to come, I get run over or personnel going to 252 00:14:58,080 --> 00:14:59,080 come in? There I. 253 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,000 Was already justifying it by. Telling them immediately I've 254 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,400 got. Clearance and I'm on my own 255 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,800 property. Here I'm just checking this 256 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,240 place out. There's no reason to lie about 257 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,720 any of that. And then I came to the end of 258 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,640 the. Tunnel and at the end of the 259 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,840 tunnel were these two giant metal doors. 260 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,920 They looked like barn doors, except they. 261 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,480 Were metal and not. Wood. 262 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,080 And they had that same. Sort of bolt action lock, except 263 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,200 they didn't have a padlocker. Or anything else on these. 264 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,800 Doors. What is this place? 265 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,960 Some sort of loading station. What are they? 266 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,880 What's behind these? Doors and why isn't there 267 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,240 security I. Had not seen any evidence. 268 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,200 Of security the whole time, even though my light didn't shine the 269 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,520 the tunnel very well, so I looked all around the doors. 270 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:49,920 And there was one. Camera. 271 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:55,440 It was on top. These stations have tons. 272 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Of cameras, the research stations, they all generally 273 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,840 look the same. Newer cameras that can be. 274 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Very small? You can't. 275 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,040 See them to anything. That's like a. 276 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,440 A door camera might. Be sort of white and small, 277 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,480 oblong shape or whatnot. This was like a bulky It had a 278 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,880 bulky case and looked like something you'd see in the 80s, 279 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,480 maybe the 90s. Like closed circuit television 280 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:22,640 camera. There's no blinking light. 281 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,680 And. Started thinking I was like, 282 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,840 there's no power down here, obviously and. 283 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:32,600 I wonder if I can open. This door, I see no padlock that 284 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,240 that. Camera's not on and. 285 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,320 I just decided I was going to open it. 286 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,320 Foolish, yes. But again, if you do any urban 287 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,320 exploration. I love that urban exploration. 288 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,000 You just curiosity killed the cat here. 289 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,840 So I. Unbolt, I bolted. 290 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,160 Unbolted the. Lock and it worked. 291 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,880 There was no other mechanism. And I started prying. 292 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,080 Open the doors. They were creaky, but they and 293 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:59,880 they were heavy and very heavy. But they. 294 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:06,440 You know, swung easily out. There's a. 295 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:11,359 Bolt on the bottom. Of the doors so you can like you 296 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,599 know bolt the doors into the ground and sure enough at the as 297 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:18,640 the door swung open to like a. 90° angle. 298 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:22,960 To the to the wall, there's the hole in order to bolt it 299 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,440 through. And so I just swung one open and 300 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,320 bolted it and peeked inside, and I stepped in. 301 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,000 And immediately knew I was in a. Cavern. 302 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:39,400 It's just a giant area. It felt large and spacious. 303 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,840 Couldn't. See anything in there? 304 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,040 And I stepped. In a few steps looking. 305 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,040 Behind me and. Making sure there's just no. 306 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:56,840 Trucks. Coming or whatnot and in front 307 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,560 of me. I could barely make out this, 308 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:06,200 these designs, these edges of something in there, and there's 309 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:11,000 to the left and to the right of me sort of a a path in the 310 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,880 middle, large path that's a 20 feet wide. 311 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,920 Couldn't I didn't see any forklifts or any other? 312 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Equipment you'd see in a warehouse, but I imagine they 313 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,680 were there. I just didn't see the loading 314 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,840 area or whatnot, so I step in there. 315 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,000 And. I come up on these boxes of 316 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:29,640 crates. I don't. 317 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,080 Even know what to call. Them on my right to check out 318 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,640 the ones on my right first. And. 319 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,720 They're stacked up. Like you'd see in a. 320 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:39,840 Warehouse, but it's very orderly. 321 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,040 A lot of warehouses aren't orderly at all. 322 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,960 You know they had leaning towers of crates. 323 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,280 This was the opposite. These are very well stacked and 324 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,080 some some of them were I would say 8 feet. 325 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,400 High, but only in maybe. Three of these crates, the 326 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,960 crates were the size, the largest ones were the size of 327 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,920 like a dinner table, a dining. Table. 328 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,080 So maybe 3 feet high, you know, 8 feet. 329 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,040 Wide or long, 3 feet wide, something like that. 330 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,000 And there would be maybe one or two stacked. 331 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,640 Together. And then? 332 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,280 At the other end of them. You might have a couple. 333 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:21,480 That were a few that were the size of like a large briefcase 334 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,400 gets stacked up but orderly that space between. 335 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:27,720 Them, obviously if the forklift. Needs to get. 336 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,640 In there they can. Get in, pull them out the. 337 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:35,880 First unusual thing I noticed. About it was that my light 338 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:37,920 reflected really well off of them. 339 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,800 If you've ever seen Silver, it's a weird property. 340 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:47,440 Your light will. Reflect all silver, but it also 341 00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:52,480 absorbs it and so you get this weird and especially in liquid 342 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,560 silver, you get this sort of weird dark silver where the 343 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,520 light doesn't penetrate or doesn't doesn't reflect back at 344 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,320 you in every. Area it just sort of. 345 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,000 It's just hard to describe what this is like, But that's exactly 346 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,200 what these crates look like. They didn't shine back the way 347 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,800 it would. Shine on metal or tin or 348 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,000 something like that. It shined almost in the liquidy 349 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,120 form, but it was a clear had clear dimensions. 350 00:20:19,120 --> 00:20:21,960 It was a clear solid. I just I needed to know what 351 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,000 these things were but what I couldn't see on them and I had 352 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:27,720 to look at the smaller ones for this. 353 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:32,000 Ones are roughly the size of suitcases stacked up and I could 354 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,480 see the top of one because the stacks weren't too high. 355 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,040 I was looking for any sort of latch angles. 356 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,200 There was nothing. There wasn't. 357 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:45,360 Even a a lid. It just was a a box, a crate. 358 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,280 It seemed to have no opening. I had no idea what they were. 359 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:52,760 And. I walked a little bit. 360 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Down this path. And I never when I say. 361 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,040 I walk, I'm talking and like, kept my sort. 362 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,640 Of my. My myself to the right side like 363 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:06,720 I did in the tunnel, feel and see these boxes and I probably 364 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,240 walked for 5 minutes in One Direction hadn't. 365 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,480 I could never saw the. End of this thing. 366 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:16,160 And was. More paranoid at this moment. 367 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,400 Than I ever was in the tunnel because the. 368 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,360 Door from where? I had entered. 369 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720 It disappeared almost immediately once I turned my 370 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,240 light away from it. So, you know, 10 feet into 371 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,160 there, I couldn't see the doors because there's no light coming 372 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,320 from the tunnels. So I was really paranoid. 373 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,880 That I once I get lost in this area, that actually could be 374 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:37,960 trouble. It's not. 375 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,840 It's not a point A to point BA straight line the way that 376 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,400 tunnel. Was so I was. 377 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,280 Getting nervous about that, but I was just too curious about 378 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,040 what this area was. And. 379 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,720 I finally decided. To sort of get back in those 380 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,360 crates a little bit towards the. Smaller ones. 381 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:56,680 And. Just try and lift 1 to try and 382 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,480 pry one open with my hands. I wasn't going to break into 383 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,920 them. The first thing I noticed was 384 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:07,720 that the cooler the touch, and I mean cooler than the outside of 385 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,720 the room temperature. Much cooler. 386 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,640 They weren't. Cold, but the longer I laid my. 387 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,640 Hand on the morals. Like this is feels like this has 388 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,960 some sort of source that would keep it this cool. 389 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,080 What is keeping them this cool? And it didn't. 390 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:23,080 You know, if you. Put your. 391 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,920 Hand on something and say cold water bottle. 392 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:31,880 Eventually that water bottle The heat is going to transfer that 393 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,440 water bottle at a slow rate depending on how cold it is in 394 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,160 the surface. Area but you're going to? 395 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,800 Heat up that water bottle enough to where it sort of gets to the 396 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,560 same temperature as your body. It didn't do that The. 397 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,760 Longer I kept my hands. On it just stayed the. 398 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Same same temperature. Which is an odd physics chemical 399 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,640 reaction. Things don't work that way, 400 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,120 really. Unless you can't transfer 401 00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,960 enough. Heat, right. 402 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:01,840 So a block of ice, you're not going to heat up that block of 403 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,360 ice with your hand. And it was like that. 404 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,080 I tried to go ahead and lift one of these smaller ones up and 405 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,600 just didn't budget. And when I say didn't budget, I 406 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,680 mean, I pushed on it. I pulled on it. 407 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,880 I sort of tried to lift it from the bottom, just didn't budget. 408 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,200 I mean, these things weighed. I I mean literally probably 409 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,760 weighed a ton. And that was the smaller ones. 410 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,000 I I wouldn't doubt the larger ones, the ones that were some of 411 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,720 them as large as a dining room table, large dining room table 412 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,240 or so. Maybe as even as large as like a 413 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,680 small living room. I mean, who knows, Those things 414 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,120 could have been 10 tons for all I know. 20 tons. 415 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:44,720 I was getting creeped out pretty quickly, so after I explored it 416 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,720 for 15 ish minutes or so, I crept my way back out of. 417 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,680 There and closed the door behind me. 418 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,840 And then walked. You know, this time, of course, 419 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,080 I'm going the opposite direction, so I put my left 420 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,400 shoulder to the wall. My. 421 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Left hand and just walked back. I never saw any floodlights on 422 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:14,120 the ground, which that is unusual, like the rest of, it 423 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,920 sort of made sense for how tunnels are built and what might 424 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,840 be going on, you know, transportation. 425 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,600 But why wouldn't there be floodlights? 426 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:25,520 I got the sense that this place had been built quite a while 427 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,280 ago, but that didn't really explain why there weren't 428 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,040 floodlights, and I still don't have an explanation for that. 429 00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:43,830 So I get back out there and I climb back up. 430 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:47,760 I put the manhole back in place and I set up my tent. 431 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,240 I actually went down about 1/4 of a mile away because I didn't 432 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:52,760 want to be too close to that area. 433 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,360 I just wasn't sure if anybody ever came over there. 434 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,920 And the next day came. I, you know, did my thing. 435 00:24:59,920 --> 00:25:03,560 I left and I kept thinking about like, what was this place? 436 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,200 Why was the security the way it is to back up a little bit? 437 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,920 You can't get in there. From a public area from where I 438 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,760 was the. Boundary. 439 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,640 To this large area, it was the shortest. 440 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:25,720 Boundary from where I was. Probably 30 miles to a fence and 441 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:30,560 on the other side of that fence, which is public land, no Rd. was 442 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:32,680 there for about another 20 miles. 443 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,800 So you would have to to even get to the fence your day your your 444 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:40,080 camping and then once you get to the fence, it's federal land, 445 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,760 There's signs, no trespassing, you know, fine of whatever it 446 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,760 is, $10,000 and two years in jail or something like that. 447 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,880 So it's it's protected. But I did find that unusual, 448 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,880 like, was this manhull abandoned? 449 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:55,880 Is and the. First thing I. 450 00:25:55,880 --> 00:26:00,840 Thought was that it was supposed to have been sealed after the 451 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,640 completion of this tunnel. But the tunnel? 452 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,480 Was built like. A lot of these stations was 453 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:12,120 built during the Cold War, World War 2, and they just never got 454 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,440 sealed that they had been. Using this for workers coming in 455 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,960 and. Out of that area there had been 456 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,120 an old road there. And. 457 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,080 For whatever reason, no one ever sealed it up. 458 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,760 Well, I decided I had to go back. 459 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,360 So a few weeks later I I went back. 460 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,480 And I knew exactly. Where it was. 461 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,960 And then when I got back there, there was a large fence. 462 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:57,200 I know I was in the same area because I had matted on my GPS 463 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,040 and the. Fence was not a normal fence the 464 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,360 way you might. Just see on some of these 465 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:07,640 properties at the very back, it's just a tall fence. 466 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:13,280 This was one of those with the razor wire at the top and it was 467 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,040 it encompassed probably estimate 40 square. 468 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,560 Meters or something like that. So it wasn't just around the 469 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,960 manhole. In fact, I couldn't see the 470 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,720 manhole from the. Fence. 471 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,400 Razor wire. With signs, you know, federal 472 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,640 property, the penalties and whatnot, there was no gate to 473 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,840 it, so. I immediately knew that. 474 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,520 That was not a coincidence. However, I don't know how they. 475 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,960 Saw me and if it came from. That camera, there's no 476 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,920 indication. Of of electricity there or you 477 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,920 know, some sort of closed circuit television thing maybe 478 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,120 there. Was a loading. 479 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:57,080 Area in which that equipment was set up and running, but I get 480 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:01,320 the feeling that there was some other way in which they tracked 481 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,320 me there. I never got a phone call about 482 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,880 it. In fact, when I saw that that 483 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,440 fence, I walked way back, I walked probably roughly, I 484 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,520 think, 5. Miles. 485 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,760 Back and in risk being in the dark sun because I just wanted 486 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,400 out of there. I did not want this to be a 487 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,080 problem. Camped the next morning. 488 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:38,760 Went back to research station. I never. 489 00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,680 Got a phone call about it? No one never came and saw. 490 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Me or anything I know emails. And either they never recognized 491 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,720 me. The other alternative is sheer 492 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,080 coincidence, which I don't believe that. 493 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,280 The third thing is that they they just didn't want to have to 494 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:58,320 deal with whatever was they would have to deal with by 495 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,560 confronting. Me and. 496 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,920 Again though, I've got clearance, so I didn't really, 497 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,320 so I didn't break and enter or anything like that. 498 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,560 I wasn't really worried about it simply because I have a ranking 499 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,800 that's higher than anyone else that's going to go out there. 500 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:15,040 For the most part, being inside that warehouse was not a good 501 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,720 idea that could have actually got. 502 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,760 Me in trouble and I've only had this discussion. 503 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,040 Very recently with one other colleague, I kept it to myself 504 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,040 and he is like me, just scientists or engineers. 505 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,560 We're just intensely interested in this type of stuff, wants to 506 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,600 go and see it, but of course we can't actually go down there 507 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,040 now. The thing is. 508 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,680 Though is that that tunnel had to come out somewhere from the 509 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,960 southern end. Obviously. 510 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,680 I've never seen anything indicating a tunnel. 511 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,160 A gated entrance sealed off entrance. 512 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Nothing like that of. Course the area is huge and have 513 00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,400 no idea how long that tunnel was. 514 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,880 You know, completed tunnel. I walked one way for roughly a 515 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,800 half a mile. Was it another half mile The 516 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,760 other way? Was it 2 miles 5? 517 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,120 Miles, I don't know my colleague and I want. 518 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:17,400 To go out there and see if we can just find the other end of 519 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,400 this tunnel so you can seal off. Is it gated? 520 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Is there a guard? I don't know if we're going to 521 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,520 try and get. Back in there, that's sort of 522 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,800 risky. The feeling I got in there was 523 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,640 that they weren't ammunition boxes. 524 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,920 They weren't, it wasn't artillery. 525 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,080 That wouldn't make any sense for the way these boxes were 526 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,760 created. There was no hand, you know, 527 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,000 sensor there to so to open them only with a fingerprint or so 528 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:50,080 like I didn't see anything like that, as ridiculous as the 529 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,840 sounds. If you remember the old. 530 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,960 Cartoon Transformers cartoon from the 80s. 531 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,800 The Autobots and the Substance were always fighting over 532 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,040 Energon. Which were these cubes that gave 533 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,960 them energy. That's what they actually look 534 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:05,520 like. Which? 535 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Is I know it sounds. Ridiculous. 536 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,360 And I'm not saying that's what they were and that would be 537 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,120 ridiculous, but because I have no, I have no contacts or no 538 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:19,640 nothing to compare them to, and some sort of solid silvery 539 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:25,480 substance that with no enter point, no exit point, no 540 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,920 handles. I just don't. 541 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,240 I don't know how. Else to describe them super 542 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,200 heavy. And I want my car. 543 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,160 I want to bring in my colleague in there. 544 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240 Who's you know who's going to offer a different perspective 545 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,080 simply because I want some sort of explanation as to what these 546 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,400 things are, But as of now I I can't even really guess. 547 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,520 And I also don't understand the security of it the. 548 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,840 Only thing I. Can come up with is that manhole 549 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,880 was supposed to be sealed and it wouldn't surprise me at all if 550 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,760 you got into that fence now. That manhole. 551 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,920 I bet you anything it is now sealed off. 552 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,360 One can't help but wonder, what is the military hiding? 553 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,440 What mysterious element did John discover that seemed to be 554 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:27,440 forgotten in time, and why did they go to such lengths to keep 555 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,640 it secret? The tunnel that John discovered 556 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:36,720 is a prime example of what the military is capable of doing. 557 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:41,400 Even though many of these tunnels are still under complete 558 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,960 lockdown, not all of them have been kept hidden from the 559 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:51,040 public. A secret tunnel underneath a 560 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,560 secret city. There have been rumors for 561 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,600 decades about mysterious activity in a man made cave 562 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,080 hundreds of feet beneath Los Alamos. 563 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680 Well, the rumors are true. There is a tunnel. 564 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,040 It's been whispered about for more than 60 years. 565 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,360 They would keep gold in there. That's all I I remember people 566 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,760 saying. Something secret in the Los 567 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,840 Alamos Canyon? I've heard about it, yes, but I 568 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,040 don't heard about it. I just that it exists. 569 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,160 There was a a rumor that there was a a train in here because 570 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,400 when you were up on top you could hear sort of strange 571 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,120 noises. The stories of what was buried 572 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:31,040 in the Canyon were endless, and unless you worked at the 573 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:34,400 national lab, it's remained one of the best kept secrets in New 574 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:38,200 Mexico since the 1940s. The public has not been in this 575 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,880 fault. There's been no media in this 576 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,600 vault until now. Our cameras were given the very 577 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,640 first look inside the carved out Canyon rock. 578 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,720 We are going in about 230 feet. Some call it the invisible 579 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,000 tunnel. Very few people knew it actually 580 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,600 existed, even though it sits in the heart of the city. 581 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,840 Today, a popular city landmark marks the spot. 582 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,080 We're pretty much underneath the McDonald's parking lot, right in 583 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,480 the center of Los Alamos, hundreds of feet below ground. 584 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,639 The tunnel was built just as a Cold War began. 585 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,840 The year was 1948. The atomic bomb is very 586 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,560 dangerous since it may be used against us we must get ready 587 00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,920 for. It a history lesson today, but 588 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,280 in the late 40s and 50s at the height of the Cold War, the 589 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,440 threat of a nuclear strike was very much a reality. 590 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,920 The entire town of Los Alamos was off limits back then. 591 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:36,960 Visitors needed a government pass to enter and exit, and a 592 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,000 lot of the 1950s buildings here in Los Alamos were designed with 593 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,040 fallout shelters. The tunnel was built to serve as 594 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,679 a safe haven in case of nuclear war. 595 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,760 But in the meantime, lab scientists work down here in 596 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,679 secrecy studying and developing new weapons like the hydrogen 597 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:56,400 bomb. And this underground tunnel was 598 00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:00,000 the first place in the country to store the parts for those 599 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,320 weapons in the early, earliest years of the Cold War. 600 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:04,960 They didn't have a facility for that. 601 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,360 So this vault was built specifically for those pits. 602 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,920 Los Alamos Canyon provided the perfect hiding place because of 603 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,600 the of the the cliffs that we have here. 604 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,160 The volcanic tough and and set up with the Canyon walls, 605 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,960 plutonium pits and other weapons parts were flown into 606 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,360 Albuquerque's Kirtland Air Force space then transported to Los 607 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:27,720 Alamos and driven straight into the tunnel. 608 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,560 It's evolved and evolved. The materials were stored in 609 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,640 these 5 vaulted rooms. The federal government only 610 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:36,960 recently declassified the tunnel because some of the old weapons 611 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,400 parts remained in the vault as recently as last fall. 612 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,960 Lab experts use them as teaching tools in the post Cold War era, 613 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,160 but Lanell historian Ellen McGee says the weapons parts kept here 614 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,760 were so secret they are still considered classified 615 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080 information today. No one could come down the 616 00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,560 Canyon, so this was a top secret and very heavily guarded 617 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,440 facility gone, and all that remains is an empty shell. 618 00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,080 But historians say the tunnel vault is still valuable for 619 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:12,320 future generations. This tunnel in Los Alamos is 620 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,160 roughly 5 hours north of White Sands Missile Range, but the 621 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,200 tunnel itself proves that this type of tunneling system is not 622 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,360 impossible to keep hidden from the public, even for 60 years. 623 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:33,960 In this case, plutonium, metal, and nuclear technology were the 624 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:39,640 main secrets they were hiding. Now, I'm not a scientist, 625 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,400 clearly, and I'm not saying that plutonium is the mysterious 626 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,880 metal that John found. But the fact remains that the 627 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:53,640 military is clearly capable of successfully hiding large 628 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,160 tunnels as well as keeping whatever may be kept in them 629 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,560 completely secret. After looking into this topic 630 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:11,640 more and more, one name kept popping up, a man by the name of 631 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:16,160 Phil Schneider. Phil claimed to be AUS 632 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,400 government geologist and engineer who was involved in the 633 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,000 construction of multiple deep underground military bases. 634 00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:30,000 Some believe that Phil's testimony was full of wild 635 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,520 conspiracies and fabrications, lacking facts and verifiable 636 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,800 information. And honestly, I also can't help 637 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,760 but question some of his theories regarding underground 638 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,400 aliens, civilizations, and the injuries he received from an 639 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,960 underground firefight in Dulce, NM. 640 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:58,520 But regardless of that, Phil's insight on secretive military 641 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:03,320 tunnels is enough to make you question what is actually 642 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:10,440 happening beneath us. Right now there are 131 active 643 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,600 deep underground military bases in the United States. 644 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:23,480 There's 14177 of them worldwide. Each one has an average cost of 645 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:29,840 17 to $19 billion. Each one is built in the site. 646 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,760 Oh, it used to be it'd take a year to two years to build each 647 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,920 one. And now they're capable of 648 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,720 building a couple of them a year with sophisticated methods. 649 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,240 My colleague Al Balick has actually been on some of the 650 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:50,000 high speed railways, the Magneto Leviton trains that connect all 651 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,120 the deep underground military bases within the United States. 652 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:57,960 He's been on a Mach 2 train and floats off of floats off of a 653 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:04,280 single rail at a 3/4 of an inch off the rail and is what you'd 654 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,440 call high tech. We have nothing like this on the 655 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,720 service. Groom Lake is where the infamous 656 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:16,400 Area 51, S 4, S 2, the CIA base. It was originally a bombing 657 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,560 range, a nuclear test site. It was later become the most 658 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480 secret base in the United States. 659 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:29,360 It employs over 18,000 workers who work in shifts of 12 hours 660 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:34,040 at a whack, most of them working to cover a darkness like us. 661 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,120 We built out nine underground military bases there, each with 662 00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:45,480 an average capacity capable. It was basically a city 663 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:49,440 underground, roughly 4 1/4 cubic miles hollowed out underground. 664 00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:53,000 Now boring machines, for instance, they don't bore. 665 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,520 They literally vitrify and melt the rock, deflagrate the rock. 666 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:02,000 It's a very sophisticated laser melting and deflagrating system. 667 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:06,040 It reduces the rock to a powder and then melts the the remaining 668 00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,960 rock as a coating on the inside of the base so you don't have to 669 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,600 use gunite cements and other kinds of things like that. 670 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,240 That's all. All old hat. 671 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:18,240 Now technology is just basically the new technology we get is the 672 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,880 old hat of the military. I want to be real brief about 673 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,880 it. I carried a level one security 674 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,280 clearance, the rhyolite 38 factor. 675 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,080 There are very few of us. There's nobody except myself to 676 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,320 my knowledge, talking like this. Nobody. 677 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,560 I'm breaking the law. I'm breaking the world as well 678 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,440 as federal law coming out and even talking about this to a 679 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,720 group of people. I love my country more than I 680 00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:46,320 love my life. Area 51 is only one base, one of 681 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:53,280 the 131 bases. Of these 131 bases I call Area 682 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,640 51 a mega base. It's got more than one base in 683 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,520 it. It's a tonopod test range. 684 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:04,440 Area 51, S 2, S Four, Groom Lake and a host of others. 685 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:11,240 These mega bases are gobbling up our gross national product. 686 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:14,840 Right now, we're spending 28% of the gross national product on 687 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,800 building underground bases. Solely. 688 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,320 That doesn't count for the defense budget. 689 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,400 That doesn't count for the spare parts budget. 690 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,360 Didn't count for any of that at all. 691 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,760 And the black budget is dead. Dead wrong. 692 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:36,440 It sidesteps the United States Congress and its constitution, 693 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,760 of its people and says you're a bunch of morons you don't need 694 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,800 to know. You know, I believe in military 695 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:47,080 preparedness. I believe in military secrecy to 696 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,440 some extent. The overview is about 697 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,800 underground mountain bases. All of them should be made 698 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,520 public. In future talks, I'll be giving 699 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,360 latitudes and longitudes of every single one of these bases. 700 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:06,280 I've already written a manuscript at the publisher as 701 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:12,960 we speak. Phil not only claimed to be 702 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:17,080 involved in these projects, but he also claimed that the 703 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,800 government had attempted to assassinate him multiple times 704 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:28,280 for releasing this information. The lecture you just heard was 705 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:33,880 recorded at the Preparedness Expo in September of 1995. 706 00:42:35,240 --> 00:42:41,080 Phil Schneider was found dead four months later, in January of 707 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:51,330 1990. Six the. 708 00:42:51,330 --> 00:42:56,810 Story he told may not seem plausible to everyone, but his 709 00:42:56,810 --> 00:43:04,850 death was highly suspicious. His cause of death was at first 710 00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:08,850 marked as unknown. Even though he had a medical 711 00:43:08,850 --> 00:43:16,440 tube tied around his neck, there was no suicide note and he was 712 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,480 found in an odd position on the floor. 713 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,760 It wasn't by hanging or anything that would keep the pressure on 714 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:31,560 his throat. Also, the police claimed that 715 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:36,120 they didn't find anything wrapped around his neck, but 716 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,920 photos taken at the morgue clearly show a medical tube tied 717 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:49,040 around his neck. The examiner took blood and 718 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,880 urine samples but refused to test them, saying it would be a 719 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,520 waste of time. Family protested and told him to 720 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,840 do it anyway. Reluctantly, the two samples 721 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:07,440 were sent in to an independent lab, and when the family asked 722 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:12,240 for the results of the samples to see if he was drugged, no 723 00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:17,400 results could be found and the samples had mysteriously gone 724 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:22,160 missing. All of his research notes, 725 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:27,440 pictures, recordings, and lectures suddenly went missing 726 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:33,600 from his house, and then an obituary was posted in the local 727 00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:38,560 paper about Phil's death, claiming he died of natural 728 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:43,000 causes. Nobody and his immediate family 729 00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:47,640 wrote that obituary or gave permission to print it. 730 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:09,280 Phil's story, whether fact or fiction, is a large rabbit hole 731 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,480 that you're welcome to dive into. 732 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,840 But it shouldn't take away from the fact that we know what our 733 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,680 military and governments are capable of. 734 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,360 The underground tunnel that John discovered at White Sands 735 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,640 Missile Range, with its mysterious metal like substance, 736 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:32,840 is just another example of a real tunnel that our government 737 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:38,400 doesn't want us to know about. The things we fear are typically 738 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:43,480 above the surface, while the world beneath our feet is almost 739 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,080 completely unknown. It begs the question, what's 740 00:45:49,080 --> 00:46:06,480 truly beneath us? Thanks again for listening to 741 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,120 Unnerved. If you guys enjoyed this 742 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,720 episode, please share it with your friends and leave a review 743 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:18,320 wherever you get your podcasts. It truly does help and I really 744 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,080 appreciate it. And if you guys want to see 745 00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:26,360 photos related to each episode again, be sure to follow us on 746 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:33,400 Instagram at Unnerved Podcast. Until next time, take care.