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I want to say before we begin 
that please pardon my raspy 

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throat. 
I didn't have a voice this 

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morning and I'm trying to do the
best I can to forge ahead and 

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push through it, but will 
hopefully not lose that again. 

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Let me Begin by first saying 
that when the Apostle Paul wrote

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those things, as he was divinely
inspired by the holy spirit in 

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both Ephesians chapter 5. 
And also in Colossians chapter 

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3, Three that in those passages 
of scripture, we are commanded 

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to sing. 
It's just talking about the 

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times when we would assemble 
with those of, like, Precious 

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faith and Worship the Great God 
of heaven. 

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But in those commands to sing, 
No player on any instrument, can

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read in the New Testament. 
Any passage, which commands him 

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to play such an instrument. 
I realized today, that singing 

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and instrumental music in the 
church in the religious world is

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a much debated. 
Issue that has been for many 

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years. 
We are talking about, though, a 

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religious question when we speak
about something that is to be 

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found in the worship of the 
church. 

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So, all that being said, when we
deal with religious questions, 

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we must understand that no 
question is settled, right until

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it is settled according to the 
proper Authority and Nolan and 

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the proper Authority is none 
other than the New Testament for

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all. 
All religious questions today. 

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You know, it can never be a 
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never be a matter of what I 
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of what you like and certainly 
it can never be a matter of what

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I like, we must always determine
what the scriptures teach on the

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subject and find out what is 
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When we talk about the church, 
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a new testament institution that
institution there Raised up 

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Jesus Christ and no one else. 
It is not of Moses or any other 

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Old Testament Bible character. 
But Jesus Christ and him only 

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therefore, we must look to Jesus
Christ in his last will and 

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testament and look to the laws 
that govern our work and worship

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in the church. 
You remember that much confusion

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arose in the early days of the 
church, over the effort of some 

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of the Jews to bind on churches,
the ordinances of the law of 

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Moses. 
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services, we've been talking 
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book of Acts, we all were almost
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chapter. 
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chapter is there were judaizers 
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of Christ. 
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were Jewish by Blood and yet 
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they were members of the Lord's 
church and what they were trying

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to do is they were trying to 
bind an ordinance from the Old 

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Law and and apply that to those 
Gentiles that would enter into 

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the flock. 
For example, we look back at the

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history of the Jews, and the 
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Gentiles, because the Jews were 
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And so, when the Jews were 
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back of their mind, no doubt. 
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biases and prejudices against 
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So, this is what they said, 
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a faction of the church that 
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Trying to bind circumcision on 
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Another words we really don't 
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We have to accept them on the 
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and salvation but we're going to
add one more thing. 

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We're going to tell the Gentiles
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unless they are circumcised to 
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Paul had to address such issues.
Somebody might say, well, what 

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about Timothy? 
Why did Paul encouraged Timothy 

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to be circumcised. 
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The difference was in 
circumcising Timothy, it would 

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cause him to have a greater 
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Christ among those that are 
unconverted Jews, when he would 

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preach the gospel. 
Here's the point, and here's the

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problem. 
The problem was those in Acts 15

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were binding, the ordinance of 
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Lord's Church. 
Gentiles if you will and making 

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that a test of Fellowship, 
whether they would be accepted 

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or whether they would not be, 
but any part in any effort to 

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bind on Christians, the law of 
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results in a sect results, in a 
faction results in division. 

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Supporting instrumental music in
the worship based upon Old 

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Testament practices is certainly
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Today let me make a very bold 
statement here that instruments 

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of Music are prohibited in the 
scriptures even though you will 

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not find a passage of scripture 
that expressly forbids the 

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practice of using instrumental 
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Now why do I say that? 
How many times has somebody said

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show me the passage of scripture
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particular practice. 
Well, you will not find a 

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passage of scripture that says, 
Thou shalt not have instruments 

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of Music in the assembly. 
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to the commands of the New 
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Instruments of Music are 
prohibited and violate God's 

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laws in the word of God. 
We have commands, we have direct

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commands, but direct commands 
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Times used with different terms.
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are there are exclusive terms, 
it includes the thing that is 

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commanded and at the very same 
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things that are not mentioned. 
For example, in just a little 

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while, some brothers going to 
come up here and he's going to 

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wait on the table and we are 
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our Brothers and Sisters in 
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When Jesus gave the command and 
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When Jesus instituted the Lord's
Supper, he did this, he took one

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loaf of unleavened bread and he 
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it signifies the body of Jesus 
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Jesus Took only one cup and the 
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New Testament or New Covenant by
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therein. 
The cup is the fruit of the vine

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and nothing else and the fruit 
of the Pine is symbolic of the 

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blood of Jesus Christ. 
Now what is the inclusive part 

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of that command? 
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part is one loaf one cup and 
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the Vine. 
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The exclusive part is everything
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You cannot exclude anything 
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You cannot add anything else. 
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automatically excluded two 
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When Jesus Took a piece of that 
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they all did the same. 
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The exclusive part is, you can't
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send one down one side and the 
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When Jesus took one loaf of our 
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eliminated multiple cups. 
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And any number You know, there 
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I know a little bit about that 
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them. 
When we were growing up, we 

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lived in Ojai And, you know, 
they actually believe that you 

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can use water on the Lord's 
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And I question that I said, but 
the Lord Jesus instituted, the 

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Lord's supper with grape juice 
and they said we can use 7Up if 

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we want to as long as we 
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it to symbolize the blood of 
Christ, But when Jesus use the 

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fruit of the vine grape juice, 
it excluded, everything else and

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anything else. 
We cannot add our favorite dish 

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on the ground that it was not 
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Forbidden, the command of 
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15 and 16. 
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believeth and is baptized shall 
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He that believeth not shall be, 
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Part who gets to be baptized for
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Omission of their sins. 
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And that that word belief, 
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of facts, it means having the 
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So it includes those that are 
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teachings, of the New Testament.
Somebody hears, the gospel, they

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believe it has the forced to 
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They are candidates for baptism,
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else because to be baptized 
Direct prerequisite is to 

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believe having the forced to 
obey the commander saying 

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excludes any other kind of music
even if it is not expressly 

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forbidden. 
I want to make this point. 

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It is a denominational position.
It is a denominational position 

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which even some among our ranks 
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have adopted. 
This particular Theory, this 

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particular practice, it is a 
denominational position that 

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whatever is not expressly. 
Forbidden is allowed another 

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words I want to add this 
practice, I want to do this 

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thing. 
I want to add this to our 

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worship service. 
I want to add that in my 

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spiritual life. 
I want to do things and you tell

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me in the scripture where those 
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That is a denominational 
position and sadly even among 

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some they have adopted the 
practice of whatever is not 

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expressly. 
Forbidden is allowed, I like 

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what a brother said. 
One time though, when he said, 

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you know, I'm getting tired of 
hearing everybody say, show me 

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where it's wrong, show me where 
it's wrong, show me where it's 

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wrong. 
I'm waiting for someone. 

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That is, that is willing to 
adopt a brand new practice that 

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we've not seen before, or done 
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tell me where it's right. 
Tell me where to write whatever 

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is not expressly forbidden. 
Oftentimes, it is the thinking 

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of today that is allowed, but in
commands, we have generic and 

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specific terms to like, for 
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and 19. 
And 20, Jesus says go ye 

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therefore and teach All Nations.
Baptizing them in the name of 

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the father and of the son and of
the Holy Ghost, teaching them to

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observe all things whatsoever. 
I have commanded you And lo I Am

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With You Always even to the end 
of the world Jesus gave a direct

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command and what was that that 
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And we have to make disciples of
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We have to go and baptize them 
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the son and of the Holy Ghost 
and then we must teach them to 

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observe all things. 
That Jesus said, I have 

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commanded you, that is a direct 
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With a generic term. 
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is there? 
The generic term is the word go.

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Jesus didn't tell me how to go, 
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So guess what? 
I can choose to walk. 

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I can ride a skateboard. 
I don't want to do that. 

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I can even do that, I can ride a
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in the Philippines. 
It's filled with motorcycles 

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back. 
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they wouldn't get around. 
It's so expensive to drive a car

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because gas is like $4 a gallon 
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so you can just imagine how 
handy a motorcycle comes and you

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find preachers riding their 
motorcycles everywhere. 

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They go to get around, that is 
scriptural, why? 

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Because Jesus didn't say how to 
go, he just said, go, I can ride

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in a car, I can get on a bus, I 
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do what I just did and get on an
airplane and fly some 9,000 

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miles away from home and preach.
the gospel and never violate the

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direct command and the Great 
Commission because Jesus simply 

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said, go However, what if Jesus 
would have said walk to All 

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Nations, that would have been 
very difficult for all of us to 

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do, but if he would have said 
walk, we might with our human 

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reasoning and wisdom sit back 
and say, well, that's just 

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impossible. 
I'll just add this or all a bat 

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after all, there's no other way 
that I can get there, but if 

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Jesus would have said in a 
specific term to walk, I would 

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violate his direct command. 
If I rode that bike. 

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If I rode that motorcycle, if I 
got on a bus train plane or 

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whatever, because Jesus gave a 
direct command though, with a 

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generic term, we can choose the 
manner in which we travel but 

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let's go further music. 
The word music is in itself. 

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A generic term have the Apostle 
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Colossians. 3 said, make sure 
when you come together Have 

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music in your worship service. 
That would have been a generic 

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term and not a specific term and
because of that, we could choose

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all manner of Music, we could 
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We can have rock music, we would
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I'm just saying, if he gave a 
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included, you can add it all in.
You can have instruments of 

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music with a piano only with an 
Again, with the band with an 

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orchestra, you can do all manner
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If Paul would have said, have 
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that is a generic term, but 
Singh is a specific term and the

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Apostle Paul said, that's the 
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That's the only kind of music 
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From God's people, we would 
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Holy Spirit by having any other 
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other than singing authority to 
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sing. 
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common argument. 
I know I have a common argument 

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over here. 
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about some specific things about
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Baptist preacher and a Church of
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And some of the things that they
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though, for those that are 
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they say I know that Paul said 
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expedient to have an instrument 
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Folks. 
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that some practices, the same 
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Well, same thing as having 
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wrong within a song book is 
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one of these things is an 
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the word expedient, while 
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definition, the word expedient 
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Means by definition something 
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view for something to be a 
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Expedient, it has to be 
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end result of what is commanded.
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the thing that is commanded. 
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expedient because it in no way 
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a different kind of music. 
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You know, we have people here 
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and grab a songbook. 
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never seen it before. 
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by that I cannot But you know 
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I even I understand I understand
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are involved in singing. 
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not talking about any other kind
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singing, the two things that are
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Very simple, I know, but words 
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something else. 
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expedient to do just that it 
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us through the tomb. 
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The essential idea and the 
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was teaching and admonishing and
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Instrumental music does not Aid 
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Therefore it cannot be a Bible 
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a noise or a particular sound 
than an instrument of Music 

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could be an expedient, but if we
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time, if we are going to follow,
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hindrance. 
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After all, we're still 
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Well, but when we look to 
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says, about the things that were
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in the Old Testament, were 
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So, let's learn and Deuteronomy 
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The Bible says what things 
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shall You? 
Observe and do Thou shalt not 

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add thereto nor diminish from 
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Simple. 
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we can't add to the worship and 
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worship. 
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Examples of these is a very 
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Leviticus chapter 10 and the 
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made a Banda by Hugh. 
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These men were priests. 
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things that are commanded in the
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we know, they did all of that. 
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They didn't subtract from 
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They added something to it. 
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No, the Bible says that God 
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them, right then. 
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mixed a worship. 
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commanded. 
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Abel. 
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offered the sacrifice that God 
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And therefore he was approved, 
King substituted something of 

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his own choosing and because of 
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God. 
I will accept no worship that he

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has not appointed. 
God, commands us to sing and no 

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other form of music will do. 
I've said all of those things to

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lay the groundwork before we 
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look into the specific wording. 
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scriptures that is used by Paul.
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King James version that says, 
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Ephesians 5:19 is better 
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other or as its found in The New
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one, another Paul gives us this 
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And when we realize the praise 
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God, when we come together in 
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praises to God. 
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each other. 
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One another, we are teaching one
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another in the Psalms, hymns, 
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then need to have lyrics that 
share truth, and that can be 

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understood. 
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used to be in that sacred 
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Maybe it's an others too, but 
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resurrections talking about the 
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written. 
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I've seen it written on that 
bright and glorious morning when

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the dead in Christ shall rise. 
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on that bright and cloudless 
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When the dead in Christ, shall 
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I think glorious is better than 
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says, in Acts 1, Jesus is coming
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Now when songs in the end the 
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talks about a cloudless place 
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whatever that's going to be we 
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because that's how Jesus is 
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So, the lyrics have to be true. 
They have to be true. 

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They have to be accurate. 
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You know, there was a meeting, 
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meeting. 
And I'm so glad this brother did

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that. 
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sure I should have because I 
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songs over the years in my 
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word or two. 
I didn't know what they were, 

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but there was a brother that got
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don't commonly use. 
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word, means this, before we sang
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So now we can sing with the 
understanding. 

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Also, we need to understand what
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must be true and must be correct
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beginning in verse 15, more 
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he said, what is it? 
Then I will pray with the spirit

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and I will pray with the 
understanding. 

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Also, I will sing with the 
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understanding also else. 
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spirit. 
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At the room of the unlearned? 
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thanks seeing he understandeth. 
Not what thou sayest for thou 

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barely give us. 
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not edified. 
I thank my God. 

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I speak with tongues more than 
you all yet. 

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In the church, I had rather 
speak five words with my 

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understanding. 
That by my voice. 

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I might teach others also than 
ten thousand words. 

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In an unknown tongue. 
We have to understand. 

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In the Philippines. 
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language fluently though. 
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So but when we come together on 
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together and we assemble with 
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Philippines on the Lord's day 
and when we commune, we need 

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brother do now to translate 
everything being said or we 

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cannot say Amen, we can't say, 
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We can't do that. 
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come together and worship, we 
need to sing with the 

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understanding. 
Standing. 

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And by the way, we do that the 
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the songs are exactly the old 
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sing the English words. 
I got a kick out of town 

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Bonifay. 
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sing it in Tagalog. 
He is no way mean. 

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A song. 
I got a kick out of that you got

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to sing with the understanding 
also. 

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We need to have lyrics that we 
understand, and that are true. 

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Now, please notice that, even 
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suggest congregational singing, 
and it does, now, please get 

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this point, we must not assume 
that worshipful singing is 

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limited to the assembly. 
I don't believe it. 

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Although I've heard it taught in
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time. 
I've heard it talked that we 

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cannot sing the songs of 
Praises. 

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Other than in the assembly, 
worshiping God. 

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I don't believe that at all. 
I believe in James 5, when the 

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Bible says, is any merry let him
sing Psalms? 

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I think the Bible is saying if 
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the command, in the Lord's 
Church, it doesn't say if you're

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in a good mood, you're happier. 
I marry then singing The Worship

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it says no it doesn't make any 
difference what your day is. 

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Like it doesn't make a 
difference, what your mood is, 

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how you feel, you come together 
and you will sing and you will 

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do it together and you will do 
it with the melody in your 

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heart, and you will do it in 
these Psalms hymns, and 

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spiritual songs, you will teach 
one another and admonish one, 

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another and encourage, and 
instruct one another in doing. 

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So that's a command James. 5 is 
any merry? 

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Let him sing. 
Psalms folks, we get together. 

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Together this afternoon. 
And we can gather around 

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somewhere and sing, we can go to
my house. 

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We can sing, we can go to a big 
meeting and sit around a bonfire

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and sing these songs of praise. 
Another thing. 

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There are no absolute 
distinctions that are drawn 

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between the different types of 
songs that Paul talks about 

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notice. 
First of all, Paul says the word

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Psalm, this is a very 
misunderstood word of among 

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those that are Advocates of 
instrumental music. 

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Now, the word Psalm as described
by mr. 

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Strong is defined like this. 
It is a Pious song. 

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It is a song of Praise. 
But somebody might say, no, wait

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a minute. 
What about the original 

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definition? 
What about what faier says 

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about? 
The original definition of the 

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word. 
Psallo, what about that? 

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Because that word means to 
Twitch to twang to strike or to 

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pluck, but I'm going to tell you
something. 

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If we're going to quote Fair, we
better keep quoting because on 

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page six hundred seventy five of
his greek-english. 

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Lexicon of the New Testament, 
this is what failure said this 

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is the same scholar. 
That said, it means to Twitch 

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twang strike or pluck in its 
origin. 

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They are gives many different 
nations of the of the Greek 

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word, psallo. 
From which we get the word saw 

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most, which is translated in the
English language as Psalm. 

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This is what Fair says in the 
New Testament The word means 

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this in the New Testament, every
time, it means to sing A Hymn, 

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it means to celebrate the 
Praises of God in song. 

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And then it says, Ephesians 
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and 9 Bollinger, another Greek 
lexicographer. 

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After giving the definition of 
the word, he said this it is 

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only in the in the Old 
Testament. 

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Emmett worship that musical 
instruments were ever. 

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Used, not in the New Testament 
nor in the early church. 

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Justin Martyr expressly says 
that instrumental music was not 

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found in Christian worship, JW 
McGarvey, one of the greatest 

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Scholars the world ever. 
Produced said this, When any man

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says that by the word Saum Paul 
meant to authorize instrumental 

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music and worship is what 
McGarvey said? 

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He is a s'matter ER, in Greek 
who can believe anything, that 

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he wishes to believe because 
when the wish is father, to the 

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thought, true exegesis is like 
water on a duck's back. 

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00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:35,500
If your hope and your desire 
comes before the thought of 

453
00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:39,500
understanding, then true 
exegesis or true understanding 

454
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,800
the context of a passage is like
water going off. 

455
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,600
A duck's back, you will never 
understand what the word of God 

456
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:52,300
teaches on the subject. 
When Paul said sing Psalms, the 

457
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:57,800
instrument to be touched Twang 
and so forth is the heart. 

458
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,700
And not a mechanical, instrument
Paul said, make melody in your 

459
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,700
heart to the Lord. 
How do you do that? 

460
00:29:05,700 --> 00:29:09,700
You do that by singing? 
A song of Praise. 

461
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:11,800
What? 
About the word him? 

462
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,500
You know, in the religious 
World, a lots been said about 

463
00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:16,800
the different words that Paul is
using and saying, well, you 

464
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,300
know, there's different words 
and they use this This word to 

465
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:22,900
authorize instrumental music. 
We've proven that was never in 

466
00:29:22,908 --> 00:29:24,600
the New Testament. 
It doesn't mean that the New 

467
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,000
Testament, so we can't do that. 
What about the other words? 

468
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,700
The other words for example, the
word him strong says, is a song 

469
00:29:32,700 --> 00:29:36,800
written in praise to God. 
It is a sacred song. 

470
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,200
Matthew 26 and 30 is cited. 
And when they had sung A Hymn, 

471
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,400
they went out into the Mount of 
Olives acts 16:25 and at 

472
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,000
midnight, Paul and Silas prayed 
and sang, Praises unto God, and 

473
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:55,000
the prisoners heard them. 
As a great example, they weren't

474
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,800
worshipping God in an assembly. 
Hey, weren't worshipping God in 

475
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,300
the assembly. 
They were in prison. 

476
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:06,200
In fact, it would have been 
unscriptural for them to Worship

477
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,800
in an unscriptural way. 
We're not talking about the 

478
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,000
worship service here. 
We're talking about a time when 

479
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,100
they were in prison at midnight 
and they were praying to God and

480
00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:19,700
they were giving God the praise 
and they sang songs of praise 

481
00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:22,900
and they did so loud enough that
other people that were 

482
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:28,400
prisoners, heard them sing it. 
Singing A Hymn so you can sing 

483
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:34,000
hymns, you can sing what we 
often times call church songs. 

484
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:39,400
Anywhere you want to according 
to the scriptures Hebrews 2 and 

485
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,200
12 says, I would declare thy 
name unto my brethren in the 

486
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:47,400
midst of the church. 
I will sing praise unto thee. 

487
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,000
That's the other side. 
You can do it away from the 

488
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,600
church and you will do it in the
Assembly of the church. 

489
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,500
What about spiritual songs? 
Strong says, spiritual songs are

490
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:04,100
songs belonging to the spirit or
songs that have spiritual 

491
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:08,100
themes, you know, I gave you a 
variety of definitions and 

492
00:31:08,100 --> 00:31:12,100
really, there's no tremendous 
distinctions between the Tom's 

493
00:31:12,100 --> 00:31:14,700
and between the names that Paul 
gives there. 

494
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:19,000
Throw no great distinctions 
between all of those. 

495
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,600
There are no absolute 
distinctions that are drawn 

496
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,600
between the different types of 
songs that Paul listed. 

497
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:28,000
But you know if somebody was 
going to misunderstand or what 

498
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,000
Paul was talking about and 
somebody didn't know what those 

499
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:36,500
words mean, Paul clears it up by
saying next the kind of music 

500
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:39,700
that's to be had and that is 
singing. 

501
00:31:39,900 --> 00:31:44,500
He says Strong says the word. 
Singing means to sing with 

502
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,500
voicing words in musical, tones 
involving Musical modulations 

503
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,600
and inflections. 
You know, there are many 

504
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,100
different unique forms of 
singing from different parts of 

505
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:57,300
the world. 
I mentioned the Philippines, 

506
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,800
just a, just a little bit ago. 
They do sing a little bit 

507
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,300
differently to style, which they
sing you can go to Africa. 

508
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:06,300
And I've heard recordings in 
Africa, the Africans Terry's 

509
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:07,700
been there. 
Where they sing. 

510
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:11,600
It doesn't quite sound exactly. 
Like, we sing the stylist, So 

511
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:17,100
forth and so on, in the manner 
we sing in harmony, we sing good

512
00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:20,000
parts. 
But, you know, when we sing with

513
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,600
the spirit and we sing with the 
understanding also and we sing 

514
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,200
words that are true and accurate
and correct. 

515
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,100
And we do so, according to the 
Scriptures, it doesn't make any 

516
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:30,700
difference if we were in the 
Philippines. 

517
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:34,700
If we are in Africa or were 
assembled here at plans Road and

518
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:39,000
sing as we sing, all those 
matters of singing and song is 

519
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,400
acceptable in the eyes of God 
equally, so The key is this, in 

520
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:49,100
our singing, it is a message and
attitude and our sincerity 

521
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:52,100
rather than the style that's 
important. 

522
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:55,400
We must choose songs that are 
for their appropriateness and 

523
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,500
spiritual content and the melody
is made in the heart. 

524
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,700
The heart as Thayer says, is the
seat of our spiritual life. 

525
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:06,500
It is the source of our 
thoughts, the source of our 

526
00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:10,000
passions and the source of our 
desires. 

527
00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:13,800
It is our Inner Man. 
It is our Spirit with which we 

528
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,200
sing and the words that we sing 
are to originate from the 

529
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,000
thoughts and feelings of our 
heart. 

530
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:26,000
We sing with the spirit. 
And we sing with the 

531
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,800
understanding also. 
You know, I never did understand

532
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,300
how someone thinks they can 
worship in spirit and in truth 

533
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:35,900
and sleep. 
During the singing, I've seen 

534
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:40,900
people do that maybe you have to
sleep during the day, That's not

535
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,900
an item of worship that we get 
to decide if we're going to do 

536
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:50,400
or not. 
We sing with the spirit, we sing

537
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:56,300
with the understanding we do. 
So in truth, We sing with the 

538
00:33:56,300 --> 00:34:00,500
melody that's in our heart and 
one more thing along this line 

539
00:34:00,500 --> 00:34:04,300
before moving on, there are many
words in the New Testament that 

540
00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:08,199
are used symbolically or 
figuratively that have different

541
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:11,900
meanings in the Old Testament. 
For example, I have on the board

542
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:15,800
there, I have circumcision. 
Now, I just mentioned in Acts 15

543
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,600
about circumcision under the Old
Law of Moses. 

544
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,199
We are talking about literal 
circumcision and that was a 

545
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,199
covenant agreement, or Covenant 
relationship. 

546
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:29,199
That was bound upon the men, the
people of God, under the law of 

547
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:32,699
Moses, but we don't have literal
circumcision. 

548
00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:38,300
But this works circumcision is 
found in the New Testament. 

549
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:40,800
What is it? 
The Bible says, it is 

550
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:45,500
circumcision of the heart. 
There for circumcision is not 

551
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,000
used, literally in the New 
Testament it is used 

552
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,199
symbolically. 
It is used figuratively. 

553
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,500
Sacrifice was used, literally 
under the Old Law in the old Old

554
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:59,100
Testament, they had blood of 
bulls of calves and of goats and

555
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:04,200
so forth and so on we no longer 
have that because Jesus was our 

556
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,400
great high priest and it is, and
Jesus was the Supreme sacrifice 

557
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:13,600
there for you and I don't make 
any more animal sacrifices in 

558
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,900
worship to God. 
That is done away with but The 

559
00:35:17,900 --> 00:35:20,000
word sacrifices in the New 
Testament. 

560
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:24,500
We make our bodies, Our Lives, a
Living Sacrifice. 

561
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000
Used symbolically or 
figuratively. 

562
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,000
What about altar? 
We don't actually come to a 

563
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,900
literal Altar and offer a 
sacrifice in a place of honor 

564
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:39,500
and worship to God at an altered
literally. 

565
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,600
But the word altar is used in 
the New Testament. 

566
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,300
In fact, remember what Jesus 
said. 

567
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,600
If we are going to apply what 
Jesus said to our life today, 

568
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,300
then we need to understand what 
he's talking about or what is 

569
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,400
used symbolically when he said 
when you can. 

570
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,500
When you remember in your mind 
that your brother Has fought 

571
00:35:56,500 --> 00:36:00,100
with you, leave your gift at the
altar and go be reconciled to 

572
00:36:00,107 --> 00:36:03,200
your brother and then come back 
to the Altar and make the 

573
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,300
sacrifice and we don't have a 
literal altar. 

574
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,800
We don't have a literal 
sacrifice but we do have worship

575
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,000
when we come together to 
worship. 

576
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,300
Altar being used symbolically 
for that. 

577
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,800
I said that to say this, it is 
misleading. 

578
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,600
Then to force, the ancient 
literal meaning of solow on to 

579
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,700
the New Testament text to 
justify. 

580
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,100
Fi instrumental music. 
Even if solow were to carry the 

581
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:34,900
meaning of plucking or striking 
a chord, then contextually, the 

582
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:37,900
instrument is the heart and 
nothing else. 

583
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:43,800
Finally, a common argument. 
A Baptist preacher was engaged 

584
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,000
in a written debate with a 
Church of Christ preacher. 

585
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,600
And these were the examples that
were used in his final argument.

586
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,500
He introduces the harps in 
heaven that are found in the 

587
00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:57,300
Revelation letter, to prove, the
use of instrumental music in the

588
00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:02,200
worship of the church. 
He says, this if it's in heaven,

589
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:06,400
and we're going to worship in 
heaven for all eternity and it's

590
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,500
acceptable in heaven, than why 
can it not be in the church 

591
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,600
isn't a church, the Earth. 
The institution of the Heavenly 

592
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,100
Kingdom, don't we believe that 
the church is what will be 

593
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,700
handed over to God in heaven and
will worship God. 

594
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:22,500
For all eternity. 
And Jesus Christ will step down 

595
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,900
from the throne and God will 
reign forever and ever that God 

596
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:32,000
will be all in all. 
This fellow leaves the 

597
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,400
impression that these were 
literal Harps. 

598
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:38,600
He cited Revelation. 589 
Revelation 14 2 and 3 in 

599
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,500
Revelation 15 2 & 3. 
However, if the harps were 

600
00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:47,900
literal by the same rule of 
interpretation, you know what 

601
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:52,300
else is literal horses? 
There's literal horses in heaven

602
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,300
and they are white red, black 
and pale, according to 

603
00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:00,400
Revelation 6 and verse 8. 
But let's examine I'm in the 

604
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,500
text to see whether these Harps 
were literal or were they 

605
00:38:03,500 --> 00:38:06,500
symbolic in Revelation, 5 and 8,
whatever. 

606
00:38:06,500 --> 00:38:11,200
John saw it was defined as the 
prayers of saints. 

607
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,100
In Revelation, 14 2 and 3. 
John doesn't say anything that 

608
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,000
he saw, in fact, whatever it 
means in the text. 

609
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,300
It was something that he heard 
and not something that he saw, 

610
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:29,300
what he heard was the Bible 
says, a great voice as the voice

611
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:32,500
of Harper's harping with their 
Harps. 

612
00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:37,000
He never said I saw Harps being 
played in heaven. 

613
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:42,100
He said, I heard sound I heard a
great voice and that great voice

614
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:48,100
was as the sound of Harpers 
harping with their Harps used 

615
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:52,800
figuratively. 
Their Revelation 15 2 and 3 it 

616
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,200
speaks of something that John 
saw among the things that he 

617
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,800
saw, he saw a sea of glass, 
mingled with fire. 

618
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,800
Fire. 
I don't think we really think 

619
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,500
that literally, there's a sea of
glass mingled with fire in 

620
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:07,500
heaven. 
I believe we can look at that 

621
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:12,600
and be for a symbolic meaning. 
No one can actually believe that

622
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,200
literacies of glass and mingled 
with fire in heaven. 

623
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,800
Neither can we look and find 
that there are literal Harps in 

624
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,400
heaven? 
Also, when a trumpet is being 

625
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,200
used in The Book of Revelation, 
it's a time when a woe is being 

626
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,600
pronounced. 
Or an announcements being made. 

627
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,000
Not for the melodious sound of 
it. 

628
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:34,900
And not so that they can have a 
good tune. 

629
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:36,600
So the angels in heaven can 
sink. 

630
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:44,800
These are symbolic. 
In their context. the final 

631
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,500
argument was this, I mentioned 
just a moment ago briefly, but 

632
00:39:49,500 --> 00:39:55,300
all this will be my final Point.
His final argument was, if it's 

633
00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,300
in heaven. 
Then it has to be. 

634
00:39:58,300 --> 00:40:02,700
All right, to be in the church. 
Let me ask you this. 

635
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:06,100
You believe that infants are 
going to heaven? 

636
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:09,400
You believe little babies are 
going to go to heaven. 

637
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:16,200
I think and hope we all do. 
Little babies don't have any 

638
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:20,500
sin. 
We got a little guy that we 

639
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:21,600
think is going to be there one 
day. 

640
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:30,000
Among all of those that have 
died as children, among those 

641
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,400
that have been killed and 
abortion clinics. 

642
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:37,600
These are living Souls. 
What do you think they're going 

643
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,100
to heaven? 
I believe, with all my heart, 

644
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,700
they're going to heaven and they
were not in the church. 

645
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,800
Because to be in the church you 
have to first be in sin. 

646
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,400
And if you're a baby and you 
don't know how to sin, you 

647
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,800
cannot send therefore you need 
no. 

648
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:01,400
Remission of your sins. 
We don't baptize babies because 

649
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,900
they were born with the depraved
soul and we believe, if they are

650
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:07,700
innocent, they are pure and they
are saved. 

651
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,000
Without becoming a member of the
Lord's Church. 

652
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,100
Because Acts 2 tells us how you 
become a member of the Lord's 

653
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,100
church. 
It's when you repent repent of 

654
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:21,100
what your sins your life, how 
can a baby do that? 

655
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,800
They can't you repent, and you 
are baptized in the name of 

656
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,000
Jesus Christ for the remission 
of your sins. 

657
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:32,700
And when you do that, the Lord 
automatically adds you to his 

658
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,600
church. 
That's a pretty weak argument 

659
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,200
that if it's in heaven, it's got
to be okay to be in the church. 

660
00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,900
Those little guys are going to 
heaven folks and they never ever

661
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:47,400
came forward during an 
invitation were baptized in 

662
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,700
water. 
One more thing, what about 

663
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:52,200
somebody that lives until 
they're 60 years old or so? 

664
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,500
But mentally, they don't have 
the capabilities of an adult. 

665
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,200
The capacity of an adult may be 
mentally, they are as children, 

666
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,900
they're maybe they're six or 
seven years old mentally. 

667
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,800
They're not accountable. 
They can go to heaven to without

668
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,000
being in the church because 
there's no way that they could 

669
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:14,000
be of the mindset to make the 
determine choice to sin. 

670
00:42:15,700 --> 00:42:17,700
You know, are Tanner is getting 
older. 

671
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:19,200
Taylor's already obeyed, the 
gospel. 

672
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:21,700
But I've used this example, I 
can't use it with Taylor 

673
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:23,700
anymore. 
She's known to church now or 

674
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,700
Anthony. 
But I remember using this as an 

675
00:42:26,700 --> 00:42:29,800
example. 
They know these kids that are 

676
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that are among us, they know 
what's right and wrong because 

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what, their parents tell them is
right and wrong. 

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Not because they made a moral 
choice, but there Comes A Time 

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in their life when they will 
make a moral choice. 

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They will. 
Make a choice, whether this is 

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wrong or that is wrong. 
I guarantee you every kid that's

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ever grown up in any house. 
Doesn't do things when they're 

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young because they're afraid to 
get in trouble. 

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Not because it's wrong 
necessarily but over time they 

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learn and then they when they 
learn and know the difference 

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they are accountable and then 
when they make the choice to do 

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that, which is morally wrong or 
wrong in any other way they sin 

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and therefore sin is in their 
life and they need permission 

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from those sins. 
We car Omit. 

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If in heaven, it's got to be in 
the church. 

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Well, as we pointed out today, 
hopefully clearly the only music

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in the worship that's acceptable
in the eyes of God, is when we 

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come together congregationally 
and sing as we have done today. 

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No instruments of Music are 
allowed. 

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They are prohibiting in the 
worship and the only thing we 

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are plucking and twanging is the
instrument of the heart. 

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We thank you for listening to 
our podcast, put on by the 

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Church of Christ at 22:15 plans.
Road in Bakersfield, if you 

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would like any additional 
information or you would like to

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receive a free Bible 
correspondence, course by mail. 

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Please email us at info at True 
Church of Christ 

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Bakersfield.com. 
Our service times are on Sundays

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at 10:30 a.m. and 5 p.m. and 
Wednesdays at 7:30 p.m. 

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Please make plans to join us. 
We would love for you to be our 

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honored guest.
