1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,100 It's great to be with the family of God this evening. 2 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:05,200 We have an excellent crowd here so much, appreciate all the 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,500 effort you put forth to be here tonight. 4 00:00:07,500 --> 00:00:13,300 We have those from here and locally and Yonder places, and 5 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:15,400 we're happy to have all of you. Here, we announced previously 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,900 that we'd be talking on this subject tomorrow night. 7 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:21,000 And I was informed that the congregation at Brundage would 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,200 be able to be here tonight. So I've decided to go ahead and 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:27,500 address this topic which is in the past, I guess, big been a 10 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:29,900 controversial topic and then I thought it really wasn't. 11 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,100 That controversial. And then I understand its 12 00:00:32,299 --> 00:00:34,500 controversial again and people have questions and a new 13 00:00:34,500 --> 00:00:38,200 generation is growing up. Little boys and girls are 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,700 becoming young men and women and they need to know what the Bible 15 00:00:40,700 --> 00:00:44,800 has to say on this subject and is going to come a time when 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,700 these little boys and girls get older, where they're going to 17 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:51,900 ask us who are parents. Can we have a drink? 18 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:58,000 We're talking tonight on social drinking recreational drinking. 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:00,800 Turn with me. If you would to John Chapter 2 20 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,800 will read verses 1 through 11. I guess if there's any so-called 21 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,700 proof text for those out in the world, many of which don't 22 00:01:07,700 --> 00:01:15,300 really know much about the Bible to justify their spending time 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,500 or justifying their drinking of alcoholic beverages. 24 00:01:18,500 --> 00:01:21,300 It's this passage right here and they want to pin it on Jesus 25 00:01:21,300 --> 00:01:22,700 himself. But tonight, we're going to 26 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:23,700 learn that. That's not the case. 27 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:27,200 John to beginning with verse 1. The Bible says, on the third 28 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:28,900 day, there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee. 29 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,400 And the mother of Jesus was there now both Jesus and his 30 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,200 disciples were invited to the wedding and when they ran out of 31 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,800 wine, the mother of Jesus said to him, they have no wine. 32 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:44,100 Jesus said, to her woman, what does your concern have to do 33 00:01:44,100 --> 00:01:46,100 with me? My hour has not yet. 34 00:01:46,100 --> 00:01:50,300 Come his mother said to the servants, whatever he says to 35 00:01:50,300 --> 00:01:53,500 you do it now. There were set there, six 36 00:01:53,500 --> 00:01:57,200 waterpots of stone, according to the manner of purification of 37 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,100 the Jews containing Twenty or Thirty gallons of Peace. 38 00:02:01,100 --> 00:02:06,000 So, somewhere between 120 to 180 gallons and they filled them up 39 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:12,100 to the brim and he said to them, draw some out now and take it to 40 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:15,500 the master of the feast and they took it when the master of the 41 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:19,200 feast had tasted the water. That was made wine and did not 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,300 know where it came from, but the servants who had drawn the water 43 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:26,500 knew the master of the feast called the bridegroom and he 44 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:30,100 said to him every man at the beginning, inning sets out the 45 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:32,800 good wine and when the guests have well drunk, then the 46 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,700 inferior. You have kept the good wine 47 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,700 until now. This beginning of signs Jesus 48 00:02:39,700 --> 00:02:43,800 did in Cana of Galilee and messed manifested his glory and 49 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:47,600 his disciples believed in him. The sport first recorded Miracle 50 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:50,700 of Jesus. Many beautiful thoughts could be 51 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:54,000 brought from this but we want to focus on the idea. 52 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,800 What kind of wine was this and does this passage and can this 53 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,700 passage be used to justify social and recreational 54 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:06,200 drinking? According to the US News and 55 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:12,600 World Report article alcohol costs, the United States 117 56 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:16,200 billion dollars a year in premature deaths, reduce 57 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,300 production and special Medical Treatments. 58 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:24,400 A Gallup poll showed that one in four American families or 61 59 00:03:24,700 --> 00:03:27,500 million. People are plagued by alkylated 60 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:31,600 alcohol, related problems, like retarded children. 61 00:03:32,500 --> 00:03:40,500 Depression, divorce domestic, violence crime, cygnus suicide 62 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:43,300 and murder. Some of us have experienced this 63 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:47,000 firsthand on both sides of my family on my mom's side and on 64 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,800 my dad's side, I've witnessed this. 65 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,400 The children of Alcoholics are drunkards one died in his 40s. 66 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,300 The other died in his early 50s. Both of them were divorced and 67 00:03:58,300 --> 00:03:59,700 both of them left behind children. 68 00:03:59,700 --> 00:04:03,500 Who were retarded either mentally or Physically. 69 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:10,500 In the United States. Marijuana cocaine heroin and so 70 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:17,200 on are illegal, but alcohol, which is legal kills. 50 times 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,500 more people than all illegal. Drugs combined alcohol, is the 72 00:04:21,507 --> 00:04:25,400 number one killer of teenagers. Approximately 10,000 people 73 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,300 between the age of 16 and 24 are killed each year and 74 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:34,200 alcohol-related accidents. The life expectancy of every age 75 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,500 group in America has increased except one. 76 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:42,900 Our teenagers one and three High School seniors, one in four 77 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,300 sophomores. And one in ten, eighth graders 78 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:49,700 report having had five or more drinks in a row within the last 79 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:52,300 two weeks. The partnership for a drug-free. 80 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:55,600 America reports that over half of eighth graders and eighty 81 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,000 percent of high school seniors admit trying alcohol. 82 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,200 So the question comes, eventually in every household if 83 00:05:03,207 --> 00:05:07,700 there's any kind of relationship between parents and children, 84 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:13,700 dad, Mom, can I have a drink? What will you answer when you 85 00:05:13,700 --> 00:05:16,800 are faced with that? And those of you who are young, 86 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,100 people there's coming a time not very long if it hasn't come yet. 87 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:23,600 When you're going to be asked, and invited to come to a party 88 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,500 where there's going to be drinking taking place. 89 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,100 How will you respond? I was amazed to find that the 90 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:34,400 average age of the first taste of alcohol is 12 and that it's 91 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,400 not uncommon to find ten-year-old alcoholics. 92 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:42,200 Teenagers can become hardcore alcoholics in as little as three 93 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,100 to six months, according to the experts. 94 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:51,100 Social drinking recreational drinking does not pass the fruit 95 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:57,300 test and Matthew 7:15 through 21 where instructed to be fruit 96 00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:00,200 inspectors. We look at the fruit of Social 97 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,600 and recreational drinking, it's all bad. 98 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,700 None of it's good. Now, we're aware and I think the 99 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:10,600 nearly Universal agreement among those who would claim to be 100 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:15,500 Christians that alcoholism or really drunkenness is wrong that 101 00:06:15,500 --> 00:06:17,800 it's sinful. The Bible teaches in First 102 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,600 Corinthians 6, verse 9, and 10 be not deceived and that's kind 103 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,400 of a warning. Whenever you see that that's 104 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,900 area where people Tim had a tendency to be deceived even in 105 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:28,700 the first century. And we have a tendency to 106 00:06:28,700 --> 00:06:30,600 besiege be deceived to whatever you see. 107 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,800 That doesn't like an exclamation before what? 108 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,300 He's going to say 'be not deceived. 109 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,100 No drunkards. That's the Bible word for an 110 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:42,900 alcoholic shall inherit the kingdom of God. 111 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:45,100 Most Christians agree that getting drunk is sin. 112 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:46,700 But many suggest that drinking is. 113 00:06:46,700 --> 00:06:50,900 Okay, as long as it's done in moderation. 114 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,700 Listen to this. This is from a teen Study Bible. 115 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:59,100 It's a roof, you'll article on partying. 116 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,300 And this is a quotation and this is one of the reasons why I'm 117 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:05,900 not real high on these study Bibles. 118 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:08,900 A lot of misguided Direction here. 119 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,200 This is a quote, it's Friday night and you're glad to get an 120 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,900 invite to a party. The problem is, you know, that 121 00:07:14,900 --> 00:07:18,300 most people present will be sloshing beers, what do you do? 122 00:07:18,900 --> 00:07:22,400 Drinking might feel cool, it might calm your social Jitters. 123 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,600 It might make you forget about life's most hideous problems, 124 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,800 but for now, drinking is illegal. 125 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:34,000 And drinking too much can and undo your life Ephesians. 5:18 126 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,400 says, do not be drunk with wine, which will ruin you. 127 00:07:38,300 --> 00:07:43,400 Listen, folks, and young people the right answer is if you know 128 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:46,900 that there is going to be drinking going on at any party. 129 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,700 You just stay away, you avoid that at all cost. 130 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:53,300 That is not a place for Christians. 131 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:57,000 To be the Bible says in second Corinthians 2 verse 11, that we 132 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,900 are not ignorant of his devices. And one of the one of the most 133 00:07:59,900 --> 00:08:05,900 effective devices that the devil has is luring young people, pure 134 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:10,300 and innocent wholesome, young people into this environment and 135 00:08:10,300 --> 00:08:14,100 all kinds of evil and wicked things start happening in 136 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,400 Proverbs 6 verse 27, he has something else in mind but I 137 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:20,500 think an application can be made to this idea right here. 138 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,500 Proverbs 6 27 says, can a man take fire in his bosom and his 139 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:28,600 clothes not be burned. I like what the old time 140 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:32,000 preacher, JT Johnson wrote in the Christian messenger, this is 141 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:37,000 some 170 years ago, 1833, but I think it is still relevant and 142 00:08:37,008 --> 00:08:42,700 applicable today. He says, moderation is 143 00:08:42,700 --> 00:08:48,500 appropriate in many things, but not poison taking arsenic in. 144 00:08:48,500 --> 00:08:52,800 Moderation, is a bad idea. And so is the poison of alcohol, 145 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:55,600 what are we talking about? When we talk about alcohol, what 146 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,400 is the fruit of alcohol? In Proverbs 23, beginning with 147 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,400 verse 29, not going to read the whole passage, but the Bible 148 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:08,400 there in dites, the drinking of alcohol and the result of that 149 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 alcoholic wine. Listen to what he says. 150 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,000 This is a result of that. Whoa sorrow contentions 151 00:09:15,100 --> 00:09:18,600 complaints wounds without cause redness of eyes. 152 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,900 He says it bites like a serpent and it stings like an adder, 153 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,400 It's like a, it's like a venomous snake. 154 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,900 You need to stay away from it. I think it's interesting. 155 00:09:30,900 --> 00:09:33,300 Notice, is it poison? Is that the hall really poison? 156 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,100 Well, the word itself intoxicate. 157 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:38,300 You look at that and you don't have to be a genius to figure 158 00:09:38,300 --> 00:09:42,600 out its poison, toxic. Anything toxic is poisonous, and 159 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,300 that's what happens when you drink. 160 00:09:44,300 --> 00:09:48,900 You get Intoxicated by the alcohol, alcohol is a poison the 161 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:52,900 Birmingham News wrote. The Following scientific data 162 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:54,600 show. That alcohol is the most 163 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,600 physically deteriorating drug there is it causes more organic 164 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,000 damage than any other drug. Rug in the book. 165 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,800 None of their diseases doctors SI McMillan and David Stern. 166 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,700 Provide the DraStic consequences of alcohol talking about the 167 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:12,500 damage in the body nerve damage, brain damage, heart damage. 168 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:16,500 Damage done to The Unborn the list goes on and on and on 169 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:20,700 alcohol, plays a part in over 50% of murders. 170 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:24,100 That take place 57 percent of the rapes, 80 percent of 171 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:27,900 suicides and 47% of robberies alcohol. 172 00:10:27,900 --> 00:10:31,800 And social drinking does not Pass the fruit test. 173 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:38,200 On top of that. 17,000 lives are lost every year because of drunk 174 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,600 driving. And then, of course, there's the 175 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:45,200 pain of children abused by drunken fathers and the 176 00:10:45,208 --> 00:10:51,300 destruction of countless homes, don't pass the fruit test. 177 00:10:51,300 --> 00:10:55,300 So when your son or your daughter asked you can I have a 178 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:57,900 drink? What are you going to say? 179 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,300 I hope tonight. As we continue in this study, 180 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,300 you will become competent and resolve and you will develop. 181 00:11:04,300 --> 00:11:08,300 If you don't have them already firm convictions, son, you just 182 00:11:08,300 --> 00:11:11,500 stay away from it. You leave it alone daughter, 183 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,900 never even take the first drink. That's the only guaranteed cure 184 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:18,900 not to become an alcoholic or a drunkard. 185 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,600 One of the very common misunderstandings today is what 186 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:30,000 when you see the word wine in the Bible, It's gotta mean 187 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:33,800 alcohol, right? And there we have right there in 188 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,300 John to the first miracle that Jesus performs. 189 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:43,000 We've got him turned water into wine, big part of they've 190 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:49,500 already had a lot to drink and he's making 120 180 more gallons 191 00:11:49,500 --> 00:11:53,800 of wine. what you trying to say that we should stay away from 192 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,900 alcohol for what's up with all that? 193 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:59,800 Well, the fundamental misunderstanding has to do with 194 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,100 the meaning of wine. People say, well, when you see 195 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:05,400 the word wine, automatically means alcohol. 196 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:10,500 Well, does it, does it really now today in 2006, when we see 197 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:14,200 the word wine and the newspaper or anywhere else we heard of the 198 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,100 word, that's how it's used and it has that meaning in the 199 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:19,800 modern dictionaries, but it hasn't always been that way. 200 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,200 In fact, it's not been very long at all since that meeting has 201 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,300 changed. 100 years ago. Let's listen to some of these 202 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,700 encyclopedias and dictionaries. This is Funk and wagnalls new 203 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:33,600 standard dictionary, 1955. Defining wine. 204 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,500 The fermented juice of the grape in loose language. 205 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:41,700 The juice of the grape, whether fermented or not that's just 50 206 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:47,300 years ago in 1971, new Webster's encyclopedic Dictionary of the 207 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:52,200 English language defines must as a type of wine or juice, press 208 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,000 from The Grapes but not for a minute. 209 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,300 In 1896 Webster's International defines wine, the express juice 210 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,500 of grapes, that's great. Use. 211 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:08,400 Especially, it says, when fermented a beverage prepared 212 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,400 from grapes by squeezing out their juice, and usually 213 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,000 allowing it to ferment. So, not even at all times. 214 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,400 Even in 30 years ago, 50 years, 100 years ago, was wine always 215 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:24,000 referring to grape juice in 1828 Webster's defines must as new 216 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 wine or wine, press from the great. 217 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,400 But not fermented. This type of wine was absolutely 218 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,500 not fermented 1715. Nine, Nathan, Bailey's new 219 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,700 Universal English dictionary. Wine Liquor made of the juice of 220 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:41,800 grapes liquor, anything liquid drink juice, Etc. 221 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,500 Must sweet wine. Newly pressed from the grape 222 00:13:44,500 --> 00:13:47,000 when you press the grape and liquid. 223 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 That comes out. That's never wine. 224 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:53,100 That's always grape juice if it's rotten, it goes beyond that 225 00:13:53,100 --> 00:13:58,600 stage and becomes vinegar. It's putrid. 1748 Benjamin 226 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:00,900 Marin's a new English dictionary defines wine. 227 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,000 The first definition then is the juice of the grape. 228 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,900 Second definition of liquor extracted, from other fruits 229 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:09,800 beside the grape the vapors of wine as wine. 230 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,500 Disturbs reason, this is interesting. 231 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:16,900 This is William Winston's translation of Josephus book. 232 00:14:16,900 --> 00:14:21,300 The Antiquity of the Jews from 1737 referring to Joseph's 233 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:25,400 interpretation of the cupbearers dream Josephus writes vow 234 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:30,300 saying, That thou did Squeeze this one from three clusters of 235 00:14:30,300 --> 00:14:33,800 grapes with thine hands. He's talking about what we know 236 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:38,400 of today is just regular ordinary grape juice. 237 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:41,700 Well, that's the English word. When you go to the Latin word, 238 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:44,700 we find the same thing. And this is a Latin, lexicon 239 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:48,300 published in 1740 defines two different types of wine. 240 00:14:48,300 --> 00:14:51,900 Sweet wine, and boiled wine as unfermented grape juice. 241 00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:56,300 It goes on to say that even the very grapes are called why Find 242 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:58,900 plenty who lived was a contemporary of the Apostle. 243 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:03,800 Paul wrote for all the sick, wine is most useful when its 244 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,000 forces have been broken by the strainer. 245 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 And what he's referring to is one of the one of four ways in 246 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:14,600 which the Jews was treated. So it would not could not 247 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:18,900 permit, he speaks of this kind of wine as a must, which flows 248 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:24,400 spontaneously from The Grapes Horace, who lived back in the 249 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,400 ancient times and the time Times which the Bible was written says 250 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,600 of some wine. You can drink 100 glasses 251 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,300 without the fear of intoxication. 252 00:15:31,300 --> 00:15:34,300 This is not alcoholic wine. This is not fermented wine. 253 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:38,100 This is not what we ordinarily, think of as one, but that's how 254 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:41,400 they spoke of and Aristotle living in the fourth Century BC, 255 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:45,900 refers to a sweet, grape juice beverage that though called wine 256 00:15:46,100 --> 00:15:49,500 has not the effect of wine for. It does not taste like wine and 257 00:15:49,500 --> 00:15:53,000 does not intoxicate like ordinary wind. 258 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:58,000 I'm not crazy about going and just reading from things from 259 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,800 history, but folks, there's a lot of confusion today and when 260 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,000 you leave tonight, you need to know that the word wine does not 261 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,400 automatically mean fermented alcoholic. 262 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,400 Wine at the Nene at Phineas of the grammarian who lived at 200 263 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:15,200 ad recommends, non-alcoholic wine grape juice for stomach 264 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,800 trouble. This is a quote, let him take 265 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,700 sweet wine mixed with water or warm especially that call that 266 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:26,200 called proposed as being good. For the stomach for sweetened 267 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,200 wine. Does not make the head. 268 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,600 Heavy doesn't intoxicate. Because it's not alcoholic. 269 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,800 And then the the Hebrew word that's translated, wine. 270 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:41,000 The Jewish encyclopedia rights fresh wine before. 271 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:45,900 Fermenting is called wine of the vat and they give a Hebrew name 272 00:16:45,900 --> 00:16:49,500 for that. And the encyclopedia Judaica and 273 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:53,000 the American Jewish yearbook you find a center of the same thing 274 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,300 and what is that that when you see the word wine as it was 275 00:16:56,300 --> 00:17:00,400 used, historically, it does not always refer. 276 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,800 Alcoholic wine. And how do you figure out in the 277 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:06,800 Bible? Whether a word is being used? 278 00:17:07,099 --> 00:17:09,300 When it's used the word, wine is used, whether it's talking about 279 00:17:09,300 --> 00:17:11,000 alcohol or not. Well, you have to look at the 280 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,400 context and we're going to look at that in just a moment. 281 00:17:15,099 --> 00:17:19,900 But one of the things I want to clear up to is the idea that 282 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,700 wine, again, always means fermented alcoholic wine. 283 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:26,599 What, what some people say is? Well, back in Bible times, you 284 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:29,700 see the grace were only in season for a little while and 285 00:17:29,700 --> 00:17:32,400 then they can have grape juice and maybe that's what maybe 286 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:33,800 you're right on what you're saying about that. 287 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,700 But then when it's out of season, all would be available 288 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,900 would be fermented wine. Well, that that sounds real good 289 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:47,800 at when you first hear it, but that simply does not go along 290 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,700 with the facts. As a matter of fact in the first 291 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:55,400 century and even before the people of that time, the Greeks 292 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,500 had perfected for different ways, in which they could 293 00:17:59,500 --> 00:18:04,600 preserve grape juice in such a way, that it would not ferment. 294 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:08,900 There was the boy Boiling method, and once you get above 295 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:14,300 170 degrees, all the alcohol, and the alcohol agents are 296 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:18,000 evaporated. At 212 degrees that was one 297 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,300 method, the filtering method Plutarch speaks of this method 298 00:18:21,300 --> 00:18:24,900 where they separate the gluten and the yeast from the juice. 299 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:28,400 And when that's removed, you can't, you cannot produce, 300 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:33,200 alcohol, alcoholic wine, and then the subsidence method, and 301 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,300 what they did then is they get it down to a certain temperature 302 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:39,000 below 45 degrees and then all the gluten settles to the body, 303 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:43,500 the bottom, they take that out and it's impossible to produce 304 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,600 alcoholic wine. And then Ian where they added 305 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,300 Sulphur agents and this eliminated, the fermenting power 306 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:53,800 of the yeast. So they went to Great trouble. 307 00:18:54,000 --> 00:19:00,700 Back in that day to make sure that the that the wine, the 308 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,500 non-alcoholic wine grape juice would not firm it. 309 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:08,200 So from these historians and from these different methods, we 310 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:12,000 can already see that non-alcoholic wine was used and 311 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,000 referred to it and referred to as wind and they went to great. 312 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:18,100 Preserve it in that way. Well, let's go. 313 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:20,300 This is what we like to do and we like to go to the Bible. 314 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:23,000 Let's go to the Old Testament first and let's see what the Old 315 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,600 Testament has to say. How do we, how do we how can we 316 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:30,600 be sure that we're talking about non-alcoholic wine and some of 317 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,500 these instances? Well every time you see wine 318 00:19:33,500 --> 00:19:38,200 spoken of in a very positive way, can't be it can't be 319 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,400 referring to the fermented wine because when find sometimes one 320 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,400 is spoken of as being the worst possible, Beverage and sometimes 321 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:51,900 spoken of as a blessing in Genesis, 27, verse 28, wine is 322 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:56,400 referred to as a token or a sign of material prosperity in Joel 323 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,400 2, Verse 18 and 19. It's used with reference to the 324 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:04,100 blessing of the Messianic age or the coming of the Messiah. 325 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:08,900 Spoken of an Isaiah 55 verse 1 in reference, to the offer of 326 00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:12,300 God's Saving Grace on. And on the scripture references, 327 00:20:12,300 --> 00:20:15,900 go in a very positive way. Not referring to alcohol. 328 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:19,300 Equine, must be non-alcoholic grape juice. 329 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:23,400 Perhaps, the clearest scripture is Isaiah 65 verse 8. 330 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,800 Here, the Bible says, thus says, the Lord as the new wine is 331 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:32,200 found in the cluster in the grapes, the cluster of grapes 332 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:36,600 and one says, do not destroy it for a blessing is in it. 333 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:39,100 The new wine is found in the cluster. 334 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:42,600 You can't get fermented wine from the cluster talking about 335 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,700 what we refer to as grape juice or the fruit of the fruit of the 336 00:20:45,700 --> 00:20:46,900 vine. Now, as you're listening 337 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,200 tonight, some of you already have conviction about these 338 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,400 their firm. Don't don't just get so 339 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,500 comfortable and just say, well, I already got This. 340 00:20:54,500 --> 00:20:57,200 I hope you're listening and I hope your your jotting down at 341 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,000 least mentally some of the points. 342 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,700 So when these this question comes up, you can give an answer 343 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:04,900 to everyone. Who asks you a reason of the 344 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:07,800 hope that's in you but on the other hand, we've got these 345 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,100 positive scriptures but then we've got as you've already 346 00:21:10,100 --> 00:21:13,200 noticed in Proverbs chapter, 23 and 29. 347 00:21:14,300 --> 00:21:19,000 Wine spoken of as a as a curse as a blight whoa sorrow. 348 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,800 Contentions complaint wounds without cause redness of eyes 349 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,600 bites. Like a serpent stings like an 350 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:28,200 adder. That's the same thing as that 351 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,000 was. Just a blessing and it's spoken 352 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,300 of in. So many positive ways can't be 353 00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:37,400 Proverbs. 23 verse 31 says, don't even look at it. 354 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,100 Don't even look at this kind of wine. 355 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:42,400 Do not look on wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the 356 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,400 cup. When it swirls around smoothly, 357 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:48,200 he's not talking about grape juice already warned about 358 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,600 looking at grape juice but there's a kind of wine. 359 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,600 It'll get you will destroy. You Proverbs 20 verse 1 says 360 00:21:55,600 --> 00:22:00,100 wine is a mocker, strong. Drink is Raging and whoever is 361 00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:03,300 deceived. Thereby is not wise over and 362 00:22:03,300 --> 00:22:05,400 over again. The Bible teaches that God's 363 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:11,000 people are supposed to be wise, why is it serpents and harmless 364 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,300 as doves and you get just the opposite. 365 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,400 When you start meddling in just a littlest bit with alcohol with 366 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:22,500 fermented wine. Somebody says, Now, just a 367 00:22:22,508 --> 00:22:26,000 little bit, it's not going to hurt anybody, but part of the 368 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:32,600 whole problem with alcohol is who knows how little to drink. 369 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:41,700 Who knows when it drunk too much experts say, people don't know. 370 00:22:42,100 --> 00:22:45,700 Some people say, well that purse process begins after just a 371 00:22:45,708 --> 00:22:49,300 drink or two some others. Well it depends on how much food 372 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:54,000 is eaten, the body weight and so on there's a lot of factors but 373 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:59,200 I like what the was found in the 1985 Reader's Digest, Seagram's, 374 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,000 which is an alcohol company. Put this in one of their 375 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:07,000 articles, the safe room. For yourselves and others is 376 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,600 none for the road, not just to stay below a certain level of 377 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,100 alcohol and drinking but none. And the idea that I get from 378 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:17,200 that is if even a little can impair the Judgment of one 379 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,400 driving an automobile would it not Also? 380 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,400 Spiritually imperiled, the Christian trying to walk the 381 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,000 straight and narrow and I think for those of us the younger, we 382 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,300 are the more exposed. We are the more vulnerable. 383 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,600 We are to the devil and his Temptations. 384 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,600 And what we do when we start. Drinking we just become more and 385 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:39,500 more vulnerable. Alcohol is a habit forming 386 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,000 narcotic that weakens one self-control. 387 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,500 We've already talked about how important self-control is. 388 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:48,300 You start drinking just a little bit and that becomes inhibited. 389 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,500 So what happens if you take a little bit and then you're then 390 00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:56,000 you're not able to understand and see as clearly as before. 391 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,000 Well little bit more. I'm okay a little bit more then. 392 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,900 Before you know it everybody can tell that you're drunk. 393 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:05,700 And you've gone way past what the Bible as Todd habakkuk to 394 00:24:05,700 --> 00:24:08,600 verse 15. Again, another old Passage woe 395 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:11,100 unto him. That gives his neighbor drink 396 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,000 and puts his bottle to him and makes him drunk. 397 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:23,000 Also Genesis 923 sad story after Noah had survived the flood. 398 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,900 We read about him in Genesis 9 20 then he drank of the wine and 399 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:28,700 was drunk and became uncovered in his tent. 400 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:32,000 This man who had stood up and done so well and done. 401 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,500 So right now is humiliated in shame because of what drinking 402 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:41,000 in Genesis 19 32 and 33 after leaving, Sodom and Gomorrah. 403 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:46,700 Finally lot commits incest with his daughters. 404 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,700 Would lot of ever done that sober, of course not the 405 00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:54,800 daughter said come let us make our father drink wine and we 406 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,700 will lie with him that we may preserve the lineage of our 407 00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:01,000 father. So lots children ended up being 408 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,100 his grandchildren as well. Leviticus chapter 10 verse 9 409 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:07,300 through 11, incidentally, all of us as Christians. 410 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,400 Has our priest first, Peter 2 verse 5 and 9, aren't we? 411 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400 We're priest all of us in under the New Covenant. 412 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,900 The Bible says, in Leviticus 10 verse 9, through 11 to the 413 00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:20,600 priest, do not drink wine, nor strong drink that. 414 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,400 You may put a difference between the holy and the Unholy, the 415 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800 unclean and the clean, and that you may teach the children of 416 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:31,200 Israel, all the statutes, which the Lord has spoken, Clearly, 417 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:35,300 the message of the Old Testament is there are two kinds of wine. 418 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,300 One fermented alcoholic. And it's a Bligh, it's a curse. 419 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:43,300 It's a shame and God's people shouldn't even look at it. 420 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:46,800 And the other kind of wine is a blessing and it speaks of the 421 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,000 material prosperity in the blessings that we would have in 422 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:52,600 Christ. Let's look at the New Testament 423 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,400 for just a little while, and we'll find the New Testament 424 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,000 confirms and I believe human strengthens. 425 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,800 Well, we've already noticed from the Old Testament as far As 426 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,100 prohibiting, the drinking of wine, socially, or 427 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:08,700 recreationally in Revelation chapter 17 verse 2 and 18. 428 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:11,400 Verse 3, the angel said to the mother of harlots for all the 429 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:16,300 nations were made drunk with the wine of her fornication context, 430 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:19,300 will help us determine wanted whether that's grape juice or 431 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:23,900 alcoholic. Wine Ephesians. 5:18, and do not 432 00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:28,500 be drunk with wine in which is dissipation, but be filled with 433 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,500 the spirit. What's he talking about? 434 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 He's talking about alcoholic wine. 435 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,900 Leave it alone in first Thessalonians 5 and 7 as well as 436 00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:42,300 Ephesians 5 Verse 18. The word here that's translated. 437 00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,400 Drunk Vine. Who's an expert on the Greek 438 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,800 language defines this way to make drunk or to grow drunk. 439 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,500 Don't miss this. Don't don't miss this to become 440 00:26:54,500 --> 00:27:00,700 drunk and it's inceptive verb marking the process or the 441 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:05,700 state. Expressed to become intoxicated. 442 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:11,100 So when he's talking about about drunkenness and becoming drunk, 443 00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:15,000 it's not just one spot here, okay, you've drunk and drink, 444 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,500 this may drinks, and you're okay, then you get over here, 445 00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:18,800 then all of a sudden, you're drunk. 446 00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:24,000 What he's saying is that the process of drinking is referred 447 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,500 to. That the drunkenness is a 448 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,000 process. It's an ongoing process. 449 00:27:28,900 --> 00:27:32,800 It's not just at a certain point or at a certain level of alcohol 450 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,200 when you're drunk according to this word, in the original. 451 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:42,200 Romans 12 verse 9 says, abhor that which is evil cleave to 452 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,400 that, which is good abstain from all appearance, every form of 453 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,200 evil 1st Thessalonians, 5:22, some people say that a small 454 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,100 amount of alcohol, really doesn't affect them. 455 00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:52,800 Doesn't influence them. They understand it. 456 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,300 Some people have problems when they start drinking, but it 457 00:27:55,300 --> 00:28:00,300 doesn't really bother them, but a couple of This who are 458 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:04,100 drinkers themselves Neil Kessel and Henry Walton say to the 459 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,100 contrary and their book alcoholism they report that even 460 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:11,700 in small amounts alcohol affects speech and it affects one's 461 00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:16,300 balance and it impairs judgment and that's the problem, that's 462 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:18,500 the problem. It impairs judgment. 463 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:22,400 We've got to have the power to decide between right and wrong. 464 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,700 We have enough trouble with temptation as it comes our way 465 00:28:25,700 --> 00:28:30,900 when we have our full faculties. Yes, but when we begin to have 466 00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:37,000 those relaxed and our power of restraint is lessened than 467 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:40,200 Temptation, we give in to Temptation much more readily and 468 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,400 our responsibility as Christians as to stand and withstand and 469 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,000 overcome Temptation. Let's go back to John 20 verse 470 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,200 1, through 11 was Jesus making intoxicating wine. 471 00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,800 But he make alcoholic wine for them to have a number of 472 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,900 questions for us to think about to just logically reason 473 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,400 through. One of the things that sometimes 474 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,800 people say as well, you know, he saved the best of the last so 475 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,700 that meant it had to be alcoholic. 476 00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,900 The question about the best being last. 477 00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:19,700 Well certainly, that would mean that the alcohol that Jesus made 478 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,000 was alcoholic. That's why there was such a 479 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,400 surprise. Well, no matter what it was, if 480 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:31,500 you had a lot of soda and some of it had already lost, its 481 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,800 Fizz, its carbonation, which would you use first? 482 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:36,900 Well, you would automatically think you've used the best first 483 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,600 and you wouldn't save the best to last, whatever type of drink. 484 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,400 It is, you would use it first in case you didn't have to get to 485 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,100 the less, the lower quality, that certainly is not an 486 00:29:45,100 --> 00:29:48,100 argument. Would Jesus do something that 487 00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:52,800 might cause him to lose control of his mind? 488 00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:59,000 His his his control of doing right and wrong or would he help 489 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,700 others do that by turning the water into wine. 490 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,300 Romans, 6, 13. Paul writes, neither yield, ye 491 00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:07,700 your members as instruments of unrighteousness under sin, but 492 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:11,500 yield yourselves unto God as those that are alive from the 493 00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,300 dead and your members, as instruments of righteousness, 494 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:19,400 unto God, intoxicating wine. Intoxicates, it poisons. 495 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,700 It's a depressant drug with Jesus. 496 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:26,600 Put that as a stumbling block before others, everyone agrees. 497 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,100 That there are some people that if they start drinking, they 498 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,700 will become alcoholics or drunkards. 499 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,100 Can you picture Jesus doing this? 500 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,500 Can you see him handing out? A bag of cocaine to people to 501 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,300 part of course not? Well, why would he do? 502 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,900 What would it be handing out and giving alcohol? 503 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:50,800 120 to 180 gallons to people who have already been drinking. 504 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,000 A lot of this dream. Neither give place to the devil. 505 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,300 A fission is 427. I like I like the illustration 506 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:00,100 one man. Presented he says, suppose that 507 00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:04,200 that you were approached by a man who was offering you a drink 508 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,500 of cider. And in addition to that you knew 509 00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:11,600 that this man was a very Godly holy righteous man. 510 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,500 He was a man who was regularly attending worship and you'll 511 00:31:14,500 --> 00:31:18,100 constant and praying and and Reading the Bible, reaching out 512 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:20,700 to the lost. You knew he was this kind of 513 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:24,200 man, and he offered you a drink of his cider. 514 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:30,000 What kind of drink would it be? Would it be apple juice? 515 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,500 Or alcohol, you know, it would be, you would know. 516 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:37,500 So why would we say that Jesus, when we know that wine can be 517 00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:41,000 fermented or unfermented? Why would we assume that that 518 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,900 wine was alcoholic? I don't think we can. 519 00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:48,000 I don't think anyone and anyone using their reasoning Powers 520 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:49,200 would do. So. 521 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,000 Another Point. Some say, it must have been 522 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,900 intoxicating wine. Because in, I think it's about 523 00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:01,300 verse 9. It says, well, drunk, when they 524 00:32:01,300 --> 00:32:04,000 had well drunk. It's interesting to look, I 525 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,400 looked at translations on this and dozens of translations 526 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,600 render it as having a lot to drink, and synonyms of that. 527 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,700 The same word is used in the Greek Old Testament, translated 528 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,400 nation, and Psalm 36 verse 8 is abundantly satisfied. 529 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Abundantly having a lot drunk. It's full Phil, Jesus made wine, 530 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,600 but it didn't make alcoholic wine. 531 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600 Well, the last thing we want to talk about, and to me, this is 532 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600 the strongest, I think there's a number of strong points to 533 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,100 notice, but I think this is the key that if you haven't been 534 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:42,100 convicted yet and you haven't been convinced yet, this is the 535 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,000 clearest area in which you can be convicted in First, Peter 5 536 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,500 verse 8. Of course, you're familiar with 537 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:51,000 the scripture be sober. Be vigilant because your 538 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,200 adversary the devil walks about like a roaring lion seeking whom 539 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:59,100 he may devour that word sober. There is also used in another 540 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:01,000 passage first Thessalonians 5 Verse 6. 541 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,300 Through 8, if you have a Bible please turn their we're going to 542 00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:04,800 look at that. I'm going to break down 543 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:10,400 something and show conclusively that that you absolutely cannot 544 00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:15,600 separate alcohol and the abstaining from alcohol from 545 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,000 this passage first Thessalonians 5, beginning with verse 6, 546 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Therefore, let us not sleep as others do, but let us watch and 547 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,800 be sober for those who sleep at night and those who get drunk 548 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,200 are drunk at night but let us who are of the day, be sober. 549 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,000 You can't take the discussion of alcohol out of this passage. 550 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,600 Look at the passage and watch something that Paul's doing 551 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,100 here. He talks about those of the day 552 00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,500 and he contrast that with those of the night, what do they day 553 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:48,100 and night? Total opposites? 554 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:54,500 Total complete opposites then those who watch or who are awake 555 00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:58,300 and alert are contrasted with those who sleep total opposites. 556 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:02,400 And then he contrast those who are sober with those who were 557 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:09,000 drunk They're total opposites, they mean exactly the opposite 558 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,800 thing. Let's see if you get this, it 559 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,600 looks like, Paul is saying the day is the opposite of night or 560 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,900 this is obvious as you read. It watching is the opposite of 561 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:20,800 sleeping Being Sober is the opposite of being drunk where to 562 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,300 be of the day we're to be watching and we're to be sober. 563 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:29,699 So what's it mean to be sober, doesn't mean anything less than 564 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,800 falling down? Fall down, drunk, dog, drunk. 565 00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,300 If you're anything less than that. 566 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,800 You're okay. Is it just some point along? 567 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:42,500 This Continuum here, as long as you stay, just be below this 568 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:48,900 certain point, then you're okay. Look at listen to all of these 569 00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:53,800 Scholars and their testimony Barn, filled in the theological 570 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,800 dictionary of the New Testament. Defines this word that's 571 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,300 translated sober here in 1st Thessalonians. 5 defines it. 572 00:35:00,300 --> 00:35:03,000 The opposite of intoxication folks. 573 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,500 What's the opposite of intoxication? 574 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:10,000 It's none, no drinking zero alcohol in the system, Jewish 575 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,500 philosopher, Philo and 8040 says soberness and drunkenness are 576 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:20,100 opposites using that same word. So we're to be sober then we're 577 00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:22,800 to stay as far away from drunkenness as we can get. 578 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,700 And what does that do? That harmonizes what we saw in 579 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:27,900 the Old Testament, don't even look at it. 580 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:29,800 Liddell and Scott and their lexicon. 581 00:35:29,900 --> 00:35:33,200 The first definition of this word, sober means to drink no 582 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,000 wine. Vine defines it free from the 583 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:41,800 influence of intoxicants not moderation, leave it alone. 584 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,700 Lamp in his legs can be tricky temperate drink no wine. 585 00:35:45,900 --> 00:35:49,300 Donegan live a stemi ously or abstain from wine. 586 00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:53,500 Know why Robinson to be sober temperate abstinent especially 587 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:58,500 in respect to Wine Abaddon Smith to be sober to abstain from 588 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:03,200 wine. The word sober means not 589 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,800 moderation. Don't get drunk. 590 00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:08,600 Just be sure you can walk in a straight line. 591 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,400 It means leave it alone. Leave it completely alone. 592 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,600 Don't ever touch it. Well, I hope our studies been 593 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,500 helpful for you tonight. I hope you've decided. 594 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:26,000 Mom and Dad when your son or daughter comes to you and asks 595 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,600 uncertain about this question, is it? 596 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,300 Alright to drink just a little bit. 597 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,900 I hope you're convicted and telling them son daughter. 598 00:36:37,300 --> 00:36:40,600 Don't even touch it. It's wrong to take even a little 599 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:45,300 bit socially or recreationally. I think the scriptures are 600 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:47,700 clear. I hope we're clear tonight. 601 00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:52,600 If you're a young person, it's not going to be very long. 602 00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:57,900 Even maybe at 10 11 and 12, when somebody's asked you to take 603 00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:02,300 that first, drink be like many Christians who've lived before 604 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:05,800 you who said, when they were off of that first to drink, no, 605 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:07,800 thanks. Never touch it. 606 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:13,400 Don't even take the first drink. We thank you for listening to 607 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:18,200 our podcast, put on by the Church of Christ at 22:15 plans. 608 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,700 Road in Bakersfield, if you would like any additional 609 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:25,000 information or you would like to receive a free Bible 610 00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:30,500 correspondence, course by mail. 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