1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,800 Doesn't seem like they're together anymore because he's 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,200 he's a divorced man. So that that kind of 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,520 recontextualize everything it just happened is like divorced 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:24,200 man behavior. Hello everyone, and welcome to 5 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,480 Castle Bravo, A Godzilla Versus retrospective. 6 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,040 I'm Derek. And I'm Charlotte. 7 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:30,800 And we're two siblings here to examine the history of the 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,040 Godzilla franchise, one movie at a time. 9 00:00:33,550 --> 00:00:37,350 We're joined today by writer and podcaster Atma Phoenix Atma. 10 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:40,790 Hi. Am I supposed to say something 11 00:00:40,790 --> 00:00:41,470 else? Yeah. 12 00:00:42,110 --> 00:00:46,550 How you doing? Gosh are. 13 00:00:46,950 --> 00:00:52,470 We all slap happy today, huh? Well, so there is a world where 14 00:00:52,470 --> 00:00:56,710 my dog lets me sleep through the night just regularly. 15 00:00:57,530 --> 00:01:01,210 I'm not living currently in that world, so like, I might be a 16 00:01:01,210 --> 00:01:03,290 little loopy. You might get like the special 17 00:01:03,290 --> 00:01:05,810 atma on this on this podcast. Hell yes. 18 00:01:06,330 --> 00:01:10,810 That is, that is in fact the vibe that we are going for here 19 00:01:10,810 --> 00:01:15,570 on Castle Bravo. That is why we explicitly give 20 00:01:15,570 --> 00:01:18,130 all of our guests barbiturates while they're waiting in the 21 00:01:18,130 --> 00:01:21,810 green room and tell them that they're sugar pills. 22 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,000 Just so that we can get a little bit more unhinged of a 23 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,440 performance out of everybody. Give me a second. 24 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:28,760 I have to look up with that word as you. 25 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,080 That's a trick. That's a trick I learned from 26 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,200 Doctor Phil. Really. 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:40,200 Doctor Phil drugs his guests Yeah, medically, for anxialytic 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,040 hypnotics and anticonvulsive. It's a drug. 29 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:44,960 It's a drug. That's OK. 30 00:01:47,450 --> 00:01:50,010 But his bit was one very long opportunity for me to take a 31 00:01:50,010 --> 00:01:51,610 potshot at Doctor Phil. I guess. 32 00:01:51,730 --> 00:01:53,730 I don't know. But yes, I have heard he drugs 33 00:01:53,730 --> 00:01:57,170 people like his drugs people just to make them worse. 34 00:01:57,690 --> 00:02:00,690 Yes, yes. Or leaves addicts in in the 35 00:02:00,690 --> 00:02:03,410 green room alone for an hour with like a a full bottle of 36 00:02:03,410 --> 00:02:06,250 vodka and nothing else. Like you know what you're doing, 37 00:02:06,250 --> 00:02:08,250 bud. The good thing is shows going 38 00:02:08,250 --> 00:02:09,889 off the air the evil has been defeated. 39 00:02:09,970 --> 00:02:11,490 Really. That's that's actually, yeah, 40 00:02:11,650 --> 00:02:14,170 that's good news. Yeah, we could all use a little 41 00:02:14,170 --> 00:02:17,490 good news these days, but that's beside the point, Atma. 42 00:02:18,010 --> 00:02:19,810 Yes. How you doing? 43 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:23,010 Why don't you introduce yourself to our to our listeners? 44 00:02:24,490 --> 00:02:28,850 OK, well I'm atma. I do writing here and there. 45 00:02:28,850 --> 00:02:34,570 I I do a gaming podcast. I'm mostly into games. 46 00:02:34,730 --> 00:02:37,610 I. I also occasionally do like 47 00:02:37,610 --> 00:02:41,050 movie stuff. I'm I'm very, very entertainment 48 00:02:41,050 --> 00:02:46,850 oriented. I'm not exactly the biggest 49 00:02:46,850 --> 00:02:51,440 Godzilla fan like I have. So I've seen all the American 50 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,520 Godzillas, and I know, Derek, you're going to hate me for 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,800 this, but I've seen Shin Godzilla, and that's the only 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:01,920 Japanese one I've seen before coming into this. 53 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,840 So The thing is, Shin Godzilla is the one that blew up, like in 54 00:03:05,920 --> 00:03:09,680 the one Japanese Godzilla movie that blew up in a way almost 55 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,920 none before it have in ages. So. 56 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,760 That is like what G witch did for condom. 57 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:18,840 Yeah, yeah, exactly. Where it's just like the most 58 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:22,560 recent thing, but for some combination of what was going 59 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,840 on, it was like it hit the cultural zeitgeist just right to 60 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,480 blow up. So. 61 00:03:28,640 --> 00:03:32,040 And like I said, I have, I have complicated feelings about 62 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Hideaki Ono. But like even I have to admit 63 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,960 the movie, The movie do slap though. 64 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:44,200 Yeah, so like, that is Shin Godzilla is the only movie where 65 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:48,040 I've both fallen asleep while watching it and still thought it 66 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:52,880 was a decent movie. That's I'm piercing that one 67 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:58,560 together in my head. I I mean, it was just I was in 68 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,280 one of those theaters with like the real comfortable leaning 69 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:07,000 back chairs and like I just like I needed a power nap and I 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,710 missed like. 5 to 10 minutes of the beginning of the movie and 71 00:04:10,710 --> 00:04:12,710 then you know I was good for the rest of. 72 00:04:12,710 --> 00:04:14,430 It it's all, it's all it's all government scenes. 73 00:04:14,430 --> 00:04:15,390 It's fine. Yeah. 74 00:04:15,830 --> 00:04:18,230 Even if, like, that's part of what makes that movie unique. 75 00:04:18,310 --> 00:04:21,110 Like, it's it's Powered by vibes. 76 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:24,950 So you hadn't watched any other Japanese Godzilla movies other 77 00:04:24,950 --> 00:04:28,030 than shouldn't Godzilla before coming into this one today? 78 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:31,270 I don't think so. I've or at. 79 00:04:31,270 --> 00:04:33,910 Least not actively watched them. Yeah. 80 00:04:33,910 --> 00:04:39,990 Like I I think I may have seen. Something Under the Veil of 81 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:43,550 Mystery Science Theater, 3000. Quite a few were on there, yes. 82 00:04:43,870 --> 00:04:48,310 So like, I think I may have seen some one of the Godzilla movies 83 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:53,150 through that, but otherwise no. That's incredibly interesting. 84 00:04:53,470 --> 00:04:56,590 And that means your perspective is going to be like, even more 85 00:04:56,590 --> 00:04:58,830 interesting today, because this is a movie that. 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,200 I think more than any we've covered in a long time, this is 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:08,440 a movie that feels like it is super in concert with what was 88 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,920 going on in the early days of the franchise. 89 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,520 We'll talk more about that as we get in, of course. 90 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,160 Charlotte, yeah. How you doing today? 91 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,200 I'm doing pretty good. I'll take pretty good, yeah. 92 00:05:24,350 --> 00:05:26,590 That's actually a little more boisterous than I normally. 93 00:05:26,950 --> 00:05:29,190 Yeah, I was gonna say. Usually it's like, that's okay. 94 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:32,550 I don't know. I'm making a lot of friends 95 00:05:32,830 --> 00:05:34,150 lately. Good. 96 00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:35,630 I'm like hanging out with people. 97 00:05:35,830 --> 00:05:40,870 We're on a slightly less bigoted social media site and more of 98 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:42,350 our friends are making it over there. 99 00:05:42,630 --> 00:05:45,460 Yeah, now it's been good to me. I'm in like discords. 100 00:05:45,460 --> 00:05:46,860 More discords. Some of them. 101 00:05:46,860 --> 00:05:48,700 I don't talk in our edit because you know me, but. 102 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:51,660 I mean, it's like me, right? We have the SDGC Discord and I 103 00:05:51,660 --> 00:05:55,500 like, I lurk and I almost never say anything, but I'm there, you 104 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:56,500 know? Yeah, my eyes are. 105 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,380 I watch again more recently. Just kind of. 106 00:05:59,740 --> 00:06:02,940 Occasionally I pop up and have to say something to like wag my 107 00:06:02,940 --> 00:06:06,940 finger at somebody, and it has the old, like Bishop TL effect 108 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:09,020 of like when you used to see that Sam Jackson. 109 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:13,090 Avatar pop up in a Neogaph thread and it was like, up. 110 00:06:13,170 --> 00:06:16,970 Everybody shut the fuck up. I mean, every once in a while 111 00:06:16,970 --> 00:06:19,730 I'm sent to silently kill somebody. 112 00:06:20,170 --> 00:06:22,570 Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, everybody needs 113 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:28,260 an assassin, so, all right, so. So let's kind of set the stage 114 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:32,300 for what's going on with the Godzilla franchise before this 115 00:06:32,300 --> 00:06:35,620 movie comes out. Obviously we've had this entire 116 00:06:35,780 --> 00:06:40,460 huge run through the 5060 seventies where, you know, the 117 00:06:40,460 --> 00:06:43,180 the movies just got bigger and bigger and bigger and made more 118 00:06:43,180 --> 00:06:46,140 and more money and then kind of got Stripmind and run into the 119 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:50,300 ground with increasingly cheap, increasingly rushed. 120 00:06:50,890 --> 00:06:54,170 Movies especially is a lot of the talent behind the franchise 121 00:06:54,170 --> 00:06:56,610 was leaving because they were getting burnt out. 122 00:06:57,370 --> 00:07:00,170 You know, A G Superraya, the original special effects 123 00:07:00,170 --> 00:07:04,610 supervisor and creator of Ultraman, died, which put kind 124 00:07:04,610 --> 00:07:07,650 of a big it really hit the brakes on the series and it made 125 00:07:07,650 --> 00:07:12,210 our original director, Ishro Honda, you know, not really want 126 00:07:12,210 --> 00:07:15,450 to have much to do with the series or film anymore. 127 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,540 And eventually, Godzilla. The series collapsed under its 128 00:07:19,540 --> 00:07:23,580 own weight and spent almost a decade kind of in the 129 00:07:23,580 --> 00:07:27,060 background, with Toho struggling to figure out how they were 130 00:07:27,060 --> 00:07:30,300 going to make another movie. You know, they they felt backed 131 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,620 into a corner. Finally, in 1984, we got return 132 00:07:33,620 --> 00:07:36,620 of Godzilla, this great idea to hey, we're going to bring in 133 00:07:36,740 --> 00:07:40,900 real talent, put real money behind this, and do like a new 134 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:44,900 Godzilla to something that is closer to the serious, heavy 135 00:07:44,900 --> 00:07:47,660 tone of the original movie. You know, try to make something 136 00:07:47,660 --> 00:07:49,700 that's explicitly very political again. 137 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:53,020 You know, it's about Cold War, you know, tension between the US 138 00:07:53,020 --> 00:07:56,670 and Russia. And then from there we've been 139 00:07:56,670 --> 00:08:01,310 on this string of of pretty good movies in this revival through 140 00:08:01,310 --> 00:08:03,430 the 80s and 90s that's known as the hey say era. 141 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:06,750 We had Godzilla versus Biolante, which is excellent. 142 00:08:06,750 --> 00:08:09,590 The cult favorite we had, Godzilla versus King Gadora, 143 00:08:09,830 --> 00:08:14,510 which was the you know, I was was astounded by how much 144 00:08:14,510 --> 00:08:17,950 thought went into that movie and the fact that it was a movie in 145 00:08:17,950 --> 00:08:21,950 1991 that was explicitly anti nationalist. 146 00:08:22,610 --> 00:08:25,570 Which is not unusual for the Godzilla franchise to this 147 00:08:25,570 --> 00:08:27,570 point. It's been pretty 148 00:08:27,570 --> 00:08:30,690 antinationalist, but like, it's weird to see that in a big 149 00:08:30,690 --> 00:08:36,450 blockbuster in the 90s. So we're coming up on 1992 and 150 00:08:36,450 --> 00:08:40,169 the series longterm producer Tanaka, I cannot remember his 151 00:08:40,169 --> 00:08:45,970 first name, but Tanaka is like, OK, what are we going to do next 152 00:08:46,050 --> 00:08:48,530 with this franchise? Because. 153 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,840 Godzilla versus Biolante only barely made its budget back. 154 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,600 Godzilla versus King Goddora just missed making its budget 155 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,000 back. These are not movies that are 156 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,640 doing well, even if they're good. 157 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Tanaka's thought is well, let's bring back King Godora again. 158 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:08,200 In the end, the decision was like, OK, well, no, hang on, 159 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,000 hang on, hang on, Because that that didn't help us last time. 160 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:16,640 And Mothra polls a lot better, especially among women. 161 00:09:17,030 --> 00:09:19,750 And women at this point were a very large part of the Japanese 162 00:09:19,750 --> 00:09:22,670 film going audience. And women are a very large part 163 00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:24,950 of the Godzilla audience, which is a thing that I didn't 164 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:27,550 explicitly know until I was reading about this. 165 00:09:27,550 --> 00:09:32,150 But like, yeah, in Japan, you know, this is not like, you 166 00:09:32,150 --> 00:09:36,590 know, the MCU split. This is like, you know, a much 167 00:09:36,590 --> 00:09:41,270 closer split of men and women. You know, make up Godzilla 168 00:09:41,310 --> 00:09:45,900 ticket sales in Japan. And it made sense to go back to 169 00:09:45,900 --> 00:09:48,340 Motha as well, right? Motha is one of the most well 170 00:09:48,340 --> 00:09:51,300 known Kaiju of, you know, that original show of era. 171 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:55,060 Motha had had her own movie and then multiple appearances with 172 00:09:55,060 --> 00:09:57,380 Godzilla. They were already looking at, 173 00:09:57,540 --> 00:10:01,420 you know, trying to bring Motha back for a Godzilla movie or her 174 00:10:01,420 --> 00:10:07,100 own movie something. So what ended up happening is 175 00:10:07,100 --> 00:10:10,140 Kazuki Omori, who was the writer and director of the last two 176 00:10:10,140 --> 00:10:13,910 films. Said OK, well, I don't. 177 00:10:13,910 --> 00:10:18,350 I don't know if Omori stepped back of his own volition or if 178 00:10:18,350 --> 00:10:21,670 this was like Tanaka pushing him back, but Omori stepped back to 179 00:10:21,670 --> 00:10:26,830 just a screen writing position and went to work on a script 180 00:10:26,990 --> 00:10:31,110 that centered Mothra again, You know, in a Godzilla story. 181 00:10:32,070 --> 00:10:37,190 Our new director is Takow Okawara, who is somebody who ADD 182 00:10:37,190 --> 00:10:41,010 under Honda and Akira Kurosawa. Damn. 183 00:10:42,130 --> 00:10:44,090 The A Move. It's a Curassawa movie I I 184 00:10:44,090 --> 00:10:47,170 haven't seen, but he ate it under the both of them on that. 185 00:10:47,810 --> 00:10:50,730 And then he was an assistant director on, you know, Return of 186 00:10:50,730 --> 00:10:55,610 Godzilla. So somebody who is maybe not 187 00:10:55,610 --> 00:11:00,050 necessarily as experienced as Omori was, but a director with 188 00:11:00,050 --> 00:11:02,850 some experience and who has direct ties. 189 00:11:03,570 --> 00:11:07,930 To this era of Godzilla, to the original creator, and to Akira 190 00:11:07,930 --> 00:11:12,250 fucking Kurosawa. So you know you can't. 191 00:11:13,170 --> 00:11:14,970 You can't ask for much more than that. 192 00:11:16,810 --> 00:11:19,010 Special effects work continues to be Koichi Kawakida. 193 00:11:19,010 --> 00:11:20,890 That's not going to change. That's going to be the case all 194 00:11:20,890 --> 00:11:23,170 the way through the 90s. You're going to get this real 195 00:11:23,170 --> 00:11:27,170 consistent visual look through the 90s as a result of this. 196 00:11:28,690 --> 00:11:32,210 And for the music, Akira, if Acube is back returning from 197 00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:35,890 Godzilla versus King Ghidorah, and I think you can fucking tell 198 00:11:37,050 --> 00:11:40,970 because this is a movie that makes great work of if Acube did 199 00:11:40,970 --> 00:11:43,010 the score for the original Mothra, right Charlotte? 200 00:11:44,290 --> 00:11:47,890 I think so. This is a gigantic info dump for 201 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:51,930 Atma, so like, you know, I'm aware, but like, there's a lot 202 00:11:51,930 --> 00:11:55,570 that's gone on in the history of this series to even get us to 203 00:11:55,570 --> 00:11:59,820 this point. The original Mothra film Music 204 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:02,300 by No. The original was music by Yuji 205 00:12:02,300 --> 00:12:05,420 Kosaki. Not somebody I know off the top 206 00:12:05,420 --> 00:12:09,220 of my head, but so never mind. But anyway, if a kube goes to 207 00:12:09,220 --> 00:12:12,620 work on this movie, so. Music in this movie slaps. 208 00:12:12,700 --> 00:12:14,060 Yes, it. Was really good. 209 00:12:14,330 --> 00:12:19,210 It's it's it's there are new and rearranged compositions both of 210 00:12:19,210 --> 00:12:23,490 like classic Godzilla music, but also a lot of classic like like 211 00:12:23,490 --> 00:12:27,050 piece of music that are attached to Mothra in various older 212 00:12:27,050 --> 00:12:32,770 movies and it really blends incredibly well and is 213 00:12:32,770 --> 00:12:36,170 incredibly faithful to like that sound of the 60s in a lot of 214 00:12:36,170 --> 00:12:37,970 ways. Just with, you know, bigger, 215 00:12:37,970 --> 00:12:40,690 more modern orchestras, more modern recordings, more modern 216 00:12:40,690 --> 00:12:43,370 audio mixing, stuff like that, so. 217 00:12:44,310 --> 00:12:49,510 So we're set at a good point. There's a lot of talent attached 218 00:12:49,510 --> 00:12:51,870 to this movie with just the director swapped out. 219 00:12:51,870 --> 00:12:54,910 But Omor, he's still on screen writing because he's proven he's 220 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:58,230 a really fucking good screenwriter, you know. 221 00:12:58,230 --> 00:13:02,710 And with Mothra, who is probably the most popular non Godzilla 222 00:13:02,710 --> 00:13:06,670 monster in the franchise attached to this movie we have 223 00:13:06,750 --> 00:13:10,470 finally Godzilla versus Mothra, sometimes known as Godzilla 224 00:13:10,470 --> 00:13:15,920 versus Mothra Battle for Earth. You know, Mothra, being that 225 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:20,480 that important to people is interesting to me only because 226 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,320 talking to you earlier in life, I would have thought that like 227 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,520 Rodan was it. Oh well, because I fucking love 228 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:28,960 Rodan. Because I love the original 229 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:30,360 Rodan. It's just so good. 230 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:34,040 It's it's one of my favorite of those early early movies. 231 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,440 And Rodan does get Rodan gets more play, I think in the early 232 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,600 movies than than like adult Mothra does. 233 00:13:43,340 --> 00:13:47,180 But this is, of course like a point where we're everything's 234 00:13:47,180 --> 00:13:50,660 reset to 0 and you know, Mothra's getting a shot to 235 00:13:51,140 --> 00:13:56,460 reestablish some, like, cultural presence. 11 minor aside, 236 00:13:58,020 --> 00:14:01,540 because of course I researched these movies 1 by 1 as we come 237 00:14:01,540 --> 00:14:03,380 up to them, I don't want to, like, look ahead. 238 00:14:03,940 --> 00:14:09,100 This is weirdly the first time I saw Tanaka the the series like 239 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:12,770 producer and manager. Named as the creator of 240 00:14:12,770 --> 00:14:18,570 Godzilla, and I don't think that's fucking true. 241 00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:23,090 Like I think you can write that in an article, but that's odd. 242 00:14:23,210 --> 00:14:26,610 Like, I think if you listen to, I mean, I don't think it's 243 00:14:26,610 --> 00:14:28,970 possible to go back especially to what we were looking at in 244 00:14:28,970 --> 00:14:33,290 that first season of Casso Bravo, right, And not understand 245 00:14:33,490 --> 00:14:39,530 that this was Honda and Subaria. Right, Like Tanaka, Tanaka does 246 00:14:39,530 --> 00:14:40,730 not have a screen writing credit. 247 00:14:40,730 --> 00:14:43,610 He didn't direct one of these. I mean, obviously a producer has 248 00:14:44,210 --> 00:14:49,410 some input on on these sorts of things, but Tanaka's Tanaka's 249 00:14:49,410 --> 00:14:52,730 the one responsible for over producing this series into the 250 00:14:52,730 --> 00:14:55,570 ground, right? With just cheat, meaningless. 251 00:14:56,030 --> 00:14:58,830 Men in rubber suits, wrestling fests, yeah. 252 00:14:58,830 --> 00:15:01,430 And Honda's the one who's bringing like ideology into 253 00:15:01,430 --> 00:15:04,030 things. And and Super I is the one who 254 00:15:04,030 --> 00:15:07,750 put like real thought and care into the design work of the 255 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:10,790 series in the visual language of the series. 256 00:15:12,350 --> 00:15:14,070 And of course like at this point. 257 00:15:14,610 --> 00:15:19,090 Honda, Efacube, and, you know our new writer, director, now 258 00:15:19,090 --> 00:15:22,530 just writer Amorri, have all criticized to knock his handling 259 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:24,770 of the franchise. So like, I just don't think it's 260 00:15:24,770 --> 00:15:29,770 right to credit the producer as the creator of this when you can 261 00:15:29,810 --> 00:15:34,930 feel the soul of excuse me, I got coffee hiccups, the soul of 262 00:15:34,930 --> 00:15:38,250 Ishiro Honda in so many of these movies. 263 00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:40,950 Yeah, but I mean, that's just an aside. 264 00:15:41,590 --> 00:15:44,150 Somebody's going to yell at me, I guess, if I didn't address 265 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:47,550 that at some point, but has anyone yelled at you for 266 00:15:47,550 --> 00:15:48,750 anything yet? A. 267 00:15:48,750 --> 00:15:52,430 Couple a couple things, but not like, yell, yell, not yell, 268 00:15:52,430 --> 00:15:55,790 yell, But like a couple people have had like, you know, wanted 269 00:15:55,790 --> 00:15:58,430 corrections or like took an issue with the way I phrased 270 00:15:58,430 --> 00:16:02,000 something and it's like, hey. Give me a goddamn break. 271 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,480 I I do be autistic. So, like, you know, sometimes 272 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:11,440 I'm going to use words in an order that, you know don't 273 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,600 necessarily communicate the exact same thing to you. 274 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,240 Try my best up here. You know, this whole podcast is 275 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,760 that's just masking normal human speech back and forth. 276 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,880 Yeah, 100%. So you know. 277 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,480 Anyway, all that fucking aside, Charlotte. 278 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,560 Yeah. Talk to, talk to. 279 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,090 Let's tell. Fucking stutters. 280 00:16:31,090 --> 00:16:37,290 You want to try again? Yeah, I am on one today. 281 00:16:38,130 --> 00:16:43,290 This is my first cup of coffee the day at at 1:00 PM, so please 282 00:16:43,290 --> 00:16:46,650 forgive me. Charlotte, why don't you tell us 283 00:16:46,650 --> 00:16:48,930 what happens in Godzilla versus Mothra? 284 00:16:49,930 --> 00:16:52,850 I will. I didn't stutter once that time 285 00:16:53,370 --> 00:16:56,080 you didn't. If you don't leave the stutter 286 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,400 in, that's going to be a weird time. 287 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,720 I'm going to leave the stutter in beside note those who don't 288 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:02,080 know. I've struggled with a stutter 289 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,319 all my life, but at a certain point you've listened to enough 290 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,200 of me podcasting to fucking hear it. 291 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,440 So. Stutter, Fam, Unite. 292 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,839 So Godzilla versus Mothra begins with a meteor just immediately 293 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:17,839 in space going towards the Earth. 294 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:20,400 And it's gigantic. And it's going to land in the 295 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,819 Pacific. And of course, it's going to 296 00:17:22,819 --> 00:17:25,380 land exactly close enough to piss off Godzilla. 297 00:17:26,380 --> 00:17:28,260 Ain't that just how this fucking works? 298 00:17:29,220 --> 00:17:33,860 My man cannot catch a nap. Where else do meteors go other 299 00:17:33,860 --> 00:17:36,180 than the Pacific? Like, it's just like a natural 300 00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:40,300 magnet there, yeah. The Pacific Ocean is massive. 301 00:17:40,660 --> 00:17:44,100 True. Like if you're rolling it like a 302 00:17:44,220 --> 00:17:49,700 a dice, you know, Pacific Ocean takes up like one through 7 on a 303 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:54,160 20 sided dice, I think, yeah, but it it is as big as it is, 304 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,920 right? But it landed right next to 305 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:03,160 guns, so. So this meteor crashes and it's 306 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:06,680 causing havoc all over the world as a meteor would. 307 00:18:08,120 --> 00:18:13,080 There's a typhoon emerging near Indonesia and like the water and 308 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 wind is like eroding the earth. There's this giant egg. 309 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,840 But now we cut to Thailand and there's there's a young man 310 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,520 stealing an idol from an underground temple because 311 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:24,640 someone really liked Indiana Jones, I think. 312 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,720 Hell yeah, they did. When did when did the first 313 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:31,480 Indiana Jones come out? I'm going to look it up. 314 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:35,920 Right now. 1981 was Raiders of the Lost Ark, so it was 10 years 315 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,640 previous. So yeah, at this point, yeah, 316 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,880 Last Crusade was 89. So the whole original trilogy is 317 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,440 out by this point. Like somebody's a fan, right? 318 00:18:46,020 --> 00:18:50,780 Like this was like literally down to he's looking for 319 00:18:50,780 --> 00:18:54,340 something and he's also a former archaeology professor. 320 00:19:00,020 --> 00:18:57,260 Yeah. Like there there is Liberal 0, 321 00:18:58,180 --> 00:19:01,740 not it being an Indiana Jones. I've seen people say like they 322 00:19:01,740 --> 00:19:04,340 ripped off Indiana Jones and it's like, I think it's an 323 00:19:04,340 --> 00:19:08,140 intentional like reference. I I don't think you can be as 324 00:19:08,140 --> 00:19:13,020 big as Indiana Jones was and get this directly referenced and it 325 00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:15,950 not be an intentional nod, right? 326 00:19:16,750 --> 00:19:18,670 Right. Like it was just them having 327 00:19:18,670 --> 00:19:22,590 fun. Well, he sorry. 328 00:19:22,590 --> 00:19:24,750 There was like a barking. Yeah, it's Twig. 329 00:19:24,750 --> 00:19:26,630 She's throwing a fit for some fucking reason. 330 00:19:26,670 --> 00:19:31,350 Hi Twig. So as he makes his way out, like 331 00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:34,870 everything starts to collapse because again, Indiana Jones and 332 00:19:35,070 --> 00:19:37,630 he does barely manage to pull himself out. 333 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,760 Like as the stairs fall out from underneath him. 334 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,160 He's like pulling up on vines, trying to get up, but he's 335 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:44,560 greeted with a gun barrel to the face and the police are 336 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,520 surrounding him. Like, completely. 337 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,360 I mean even like the whole pulling myself up. 338 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:49,760 And then there's a gun barrel in my face. 339 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:57,480 Is so Indiana Jones like, so he's in jail now and a group of 340 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:01,840 of men in suits approached his cell and they just start talking 341 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,080 about him in the cell. They're like your name is Takia 342 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:10,040 Fujito and. Then they start explaining his 343 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,200 back story and Masako, who's like one of his, well actually, 344 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,280 it's just that the person that he had daughter with doesn't 345 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,520 seem like they're together anymore because he's he's a 346 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:24,000 divorced man and so that kind of recontextualizer. 347 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,160 Did they say divorced? He's yeah, she said. 348 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:29,160 Divorced. So that that kind of 349 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,480 recontextualize everything it just happened is like divorced 350 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:41,310 man behavior. So this group is called the 351 00:20:41,550 --> 00:20:46,070 National Environment Planning Bureau and they they take them 352 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:49,390 outside to discuss this meteorite that's destroying the 353 00:20:49,390 --> 00:20:52,030 earth's environment. And they tell him about the egg 354 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:56,990 on an Indonesian island and the the area is closed off to the 355 00:20:56,990 --> 00:21:01,950 Bureau, but the area is being quote UN quote supported by the 356 00:21:01,950 --> 00:21:03,990 Japanese government. They're they're trying to 357 00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:07,280 develop the area which we've. In a plot point. 358 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Super familiar for, you know, early Mothra movies, right? 359 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:17,280 And then there's this guy Ando, who shows up and he's from the 360 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,360 same organization. He serves everybody tea. 361 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:24,960 And that there's this scene where Takia and Massaco are 362 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,400 going back and forth. Takia, like, eats an entire 363 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,760 lemon slice, which is the thing you do when you're tough, right? 364 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,640 Because Mosica was like, I don't think you can even handle this. 365 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,680 And he's like chewing on this limb. 366 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,160 And like, well, there was only one woman I couldn't handle, you 367 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:47,240 know? So he finally asked the 368 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,880 question, like, OK, so if I accept this, I get to go free. 369 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,640 And they're like, yeah, And he goes, OK, I refuse. 370 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:57,160 It's. Such a piece of shit. 371 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:02,560 I love him. I love this fucking skis bag. 372 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:08,050 Yeah, so. No, I'm just. 373 00:22:08,090 --> 00:22:13,370 I'm just blown away by just like in how little time it takes this 374 00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:17,410 guy to just be a complete idiot. Yeah, I love him. 375 00:22:17,410 --> 00:22:21,330 Yeah, This entire like cast, like this core trio that we've 376 00:22:21,330 --> 00:22:26,210 already established of. You know, adventure dude, his 377 00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:29,570 exwife and then big stocky businessman. 378 00:22:29,850 --> 00:22:33,330 Like, immediately the amount of personality that's been imbued 379 00:22:33,330 --> 00:22:38,890 on to them reminds me so much of the original standalone Mothra, 380 00:22:39,570 --> 00:22:44,610 right? Like I I I think that plus like 381 00:22:45,250 --> 00:22:48,730 you know birth island being like under development by a big 382 00:22:48,730 --> 00:22:53,050 Japanese corporation is very like somebody watched. 383 00:22:53,450 --> 00:22:57,210 Every movie Mothra appeared in so far and really wanted to be 384 00:22:57,690 --> 00:23:01,650 faithful to the tone and idea and and even certain events that 385 00:23:01,650 --> 00:23:03,930 happened in those old movies. Yeah. 386 00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:08,010 So he refuses, Yeah, yeah, Takiya refuses. 387 00:23:09,210 --> 00:23:11,290 He's back in his cell now and he's like, yeah, I'll probably 388 00:23:11,290 --> 00:23:14,170 be out in a week. And the Mosaco is like, well, 389 00:23:14,170 --> 00:23:16,690 actually they're pretty harsh on thieves here, especially the 390 00:23:16,690 --> 00:23:18,890 ones that destroy temples. So I think you're probably going 391 00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:22,200 to get about 15 years. So they just start walking away 392 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,400 and he's like, wait, no, wait. I got just great sequence 393 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,640 because she's clearly just like, beaming at the thought of how 394 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,640 it's going to make him squirm and like straight up like 395 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,600 fucking sashays away as he's like wait, please don't do 396 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:42,520 anything right. So then we cut to Professor 397 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:47,080 Fugazawa and he's visiting the Bureau now and he's like, oh, 398 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,960 where're the others? And they basically just say 399 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,960 that, you know, Masako, Ando and Takia have left for Bangkok. 400 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,160 The professors, like, I bet Masako and Takia are still in 401 00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,720 love. I don't know where he get that 402 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,640 from. But the Bureau is concerned 403 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,440 about the ozone layer, which is a thing that we talked about 404 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:09,360 forever in the 90s. Holes in the ozone layer. 405 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,040 The meteor also apparently raised so much silt into the air 406 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,040 that they can't track Godzilla's movements. 407 00:24:18,070 --> 00:24:20,710 And then it cuts to, like, underneath the waves and like, 408 00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:23,550 everything's rumbling. There's a monster down there 409 00:24:23,550 --> 00:24:25,510 that we haven't seen before crawling around. 410 00:24:26,470 --> 00:24:30,070 So Takia is like, they're all on this boat. 411 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:33,070 Takia is like, I don't know what I'm doing when we get there. 412 00:24:33,310 --> 00:24:35,630 And Moscow is like, I think I'll just let you sweat it out, 413 00:24:35,630 --> 00:24:36,750 actually, I'll tell you when we get there. 414 00:24:39,310 --> 00:24:41,710 But they know they're going to Infant Island or Berwick Island, 415 00:24:42,590 --> 00:24:46,550 and they venture into the jungle there and they're kind of 416 00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:49,370 marching around. And Chachio warns the others not 417 00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:51,130 to drink too much or they'll get tired. 418 00:24:52,090 --> 00:24:53,450 I don't know if that's the thing. 419 00:24:54,290 --> 00:24:56,850 Not to my not. I mean, obviously, like, don't 420 00:24:57,210 --> 00:24:59,610 drink so much water that you have a stomach full of water 421 00:24:59,610 --> 00:25:01,850 before you go hiking, right? Right. 422 00:25:02,890 --> 00:25:04,490 It's something like swimming, right? 423 00:25:04,490 --> 00:25:08,130 If you drink too much 30 minutes before you go hiking, you know 424 00:25:08,130 --> 00:25:09,570 you might pass out. Right. 425 00:25:09,570 --> 00:25:12,050 I mean, look, I could as somebody who is, Who is? 426 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,440 You know, down to gallon of water and then went hiking and 427 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,440 and lost a significant amount of that water. 428 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,320 I can tell you that that's give it, give it a little time, but 429 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:26,360 right. So they they go along and they 430 00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:29,200 see the strip mining on the Cliff faces and they lament it, 431 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,360 you know? Is is this where he He says. 432 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,760 What an ugly mound that might be. 433 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,720 Yeah, because like I it was to me that part. 434 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,860 Like. I know Jurassic Park hadn't 435 00:25:43,860 --> 00:25:49,540 happened yet, but it was almost the same cut as Ian Malcolm 436 00:25:49,540 --> 00:25:51,580 coming around 1/4 and being like that's a huge. 437 00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:55,460 Pile of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that 438 00:25:55,460 --> 00:25:57,060 is it then, cuz it's basically how it went. 439 00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:00,660 Yeah. They're basically like, and 440 00:26:00,660 --> 00:26:03,940 humans will strip everything away or something. 441 00:26:03,940 --> 00:26:05,580 And they're like, I think that already happened here. 442 00:26:06,820 --> 00:26:09,500 So they crossed this bridge and it's made from like logs and 443 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:12,300 vines and Tokyo's like, it's fine, we're going to be fine, 444 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:13,260 yeah. He's like, how much does 445 00:26:13,260 --> 00:26:14,460 everybody weigh? Okay. 446 00:26:14,460 --> 00:26:15,660 Yeah. Now this will be fine. 447 00:26:15,660 --> 00:26:17,500 He, like, does the math. And he's like, this should hold 448 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:19,820 that amount of weight. Yeah. 449 00:26:20,460 --> 00:26:23,100 I don't know how he did the math, but he was wrong and 450 00:26:23,100 --> 00:26:27,140 snatched under the pressure and like they're they're hanging on 451 00:26:27,140 --> 00:26:29,870 the other edge basically like you would. 452 00:26:29,950 --> 00:26:31,150 I thought they were going to try to use it. 453 00:26:31,150 --> 00:26:33,590 As a ladder, but hanging, hanging from the suspension 454 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:36,270 bridge and the only thing he can think to be to say is like to 455 00:26:36,270 --> 00:26:39,310 berate his exwife for having gained weight and not told him 456 00:26:39,950 --> 00:26:45,110 and just like, are you serious? Seems like that's like the 457 00:26:45,110 --> 00:26:48,230 entire setup, like he broke the bridge just so he could poke at 458 00:26:48,230 --> 00:26:51,310 his exwife. I mean, I wouldn't put it past 459 00:26:51,310 --> 00:26:52,990 him. Like. 460 00:26:53,390 --> 00:26:56,830 The amount of it cannot be stated how much. 461 00:26:57,630 --> 00:27:02,550 Of this movie is dedicated to these two divorced people like 462 00:27:02,670 --> 00:27:05,870 snipping at each other in incredibly entertaining ways. 463 00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:11,110 It fuels me, yeah. So their only way to get forward 464 00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:15,910 from here is to to go to down into the water below, mostly 465 00:27:15,910 --> 00:27:20,510 unwillingly, Like he has to pry pry her hands off the the 466 00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:23,870 bridge. But as it turns out, the river 467 00:27:23,870 --> 00:27:25,910 will actually get them where they're going a lot faster. 468 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,400 So they they start. And it's like almost like a like 469 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,360 an old, like American cartoon. Like pacing to the gag of him, 470 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:38,520 like them all landing in the water and him grabbing the map 471 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,680 and being like, oh, this was the right way anyway. 472 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,920 And then you look back and like Misako and Ando are like just 473 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,360 like like glaring at him pouring water out of out of things and 474 00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:52,920 just, like glaring at him and comically angry faces. 475 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,960 It's very good. Once again, this is a movie. 476 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:01,760 Just like the original Mothra that like knows it's being silly 477 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,800 and is having a fucking blast with it. 478 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,360 Yeah. So they for some reason I'm 479 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:10,160 spacing on whether or not it's like a raft or? 480 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:11,760 It's like a raft. Yeah. 481 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,880 It's like an inflatable raft. Yeah, so. 482 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,680 So they're on this raft. And Ando is like super good at 483 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,040 rowing. He's a big beefy boy. 484 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,800 Yeah, Talk. He was like, how'd you get so 485 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,760 good at rowing? And he's like company training. 486 00:28:27,030 --> 00:28:33,110 Okay. So the underrated gag of them 487 00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:35,910 zooming out in the boat is just going in a circle because 488 00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:38,630 they're collectively rowing very badly. 489 00:28:38,910 --> 00:28:42,710 Yeah, So they can't for the night. 490 00:28:43,270 --> 00:28:46,510 And Mossico talks to to talk to you about their their daughter, 491 00:28:47,110 --> 00:28:51,630 and she has lied to their daughter about who Takia is 492 00:28:53,580 --> 00:28:55,580 because she wrote him like a little little note on the back 493 00:28:55,580 --> 00:28:57,900 of a picture being like, I'm going to help you chase down the 494 00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:03,100 bad guys when I get older. Takia is the bad guy, somewhat 495 00:29:03,980 --> 00:29:06,020 depending. Do you know? 496 00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:08,500 I mean, it's not, it's not a good guy who goes around 497 00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:11,900 stealing relics from from that part, no. 498 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:14,060 But when he steals from a company later, I'm like 499 00:29:14,060 --> 00:29:15,780 whatever. Well, yeah, that's that's not 500 00:29:15,780 --> 00:29:20,380 even theft. So yeah, so the next morning 501 00:29:20,380 --> 00:29:23,170 they walk into this cave and they're like, wow, these ruins 502 00:29:23,170 --> 00:29:25,170 have to be like 10,000 years old. 503 00:29:26,130 --> 00:29:30,330 You can just tell there's a, there's a mural of Mothra 504 00:29:30,330 --> 00:29:32,290 fighting some other creature on the wall. 505 00:29:32,930 --> 00:29:35,810 And there's this, this window, and light passes through the 506 00:29:35,810 --> 00:29:39,770 window and it's like in this design and remember that design 507 00:29:39,770 --> 00:29:43,690 for later, But the the light goes up and reveals this new 508 00:29:43,690 --> 00:29:48,650 passage out and it leads outside directly to the egg, like it's 509 00:29:48,650 --> 00:29:51,690 just right there. So they're they're observing 510 00:29:51,690 --> 00:29:54,690 this egg and they hear a voice from the flowers. 511 00:29:54,690 --> 00:29:58,170 And it's the cosmos, which are the showbizgen. 512 00:29:58,170 --> 00:29:59,650 But they're called the cosmos here. 513 00:30:01,850 --> 00:30:04,770 And they explained that Mothra was the protector of the Earth 514 00:30:04,770 --> 00:30:08,370 12,000 years ago until a group of scientists, the the 515 00:30:08,370 --> 00:30:11,970 scientists that existed 12,000 years ago, created machines to 516 00:30:11,970 --> 00:30:15,890 drain the Earth's life force. And Batra appeared to match 517 00:30:15,890 --> 00:30:18,770 Mothra and punished. The Earth's hubris, basically. 518 00:30:19,230 --> 00:30:23,070 And their fight like flooded the earth and the cosmos are worried 519 00:30:23,070 --> 00:30:25,790 that Bach was alive again. And of course they're right. 520 00:30:25,790 --> 00:30:27,190 That was the creature we saw earlier. 521 00:30:27,470 --> 00:30:33,750 I like if I if I can interject here, I like this change because 522 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:36,910 of course, you know, famously in the 50s and 60s and 70s. 523 00:30:37,450 --> 00:30:40,370 You know, Infant Island is home to like a group of Polynesian 524 00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:43,210 natives that are not always portrayed super well. 525 00:30:43,210 --> 00:30:47,010 It's often Japanese people in in some form of brown face, 526 00:30:47,290 --> 00:30:49,890 although at least the makeup work got less offensive as time 527 00:30:49,890 --> 00:30:52,410 went on. But you know, as a concept, 528 00:30:52,410 --> 00:30:53,610 right? Like that still doesn't sit 529 00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:59,250 great with me. But now we've gone to the like 530 00:30:59,250 --> 00:31:03,210 twin. The tiny twin priestesses are in 531 00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:06,890 fact like relics of an ancient super civilization. 532 00:31:07,830 --> 00:31:11,430 Like that's clearly the implication here is like 12,000 533 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:16,750 years ago we had like fucking Atlantis in, you know, Polynesia 534 00:31:17,190 --> 00:31:22,150 and you know we fucked up and and paid for our hubris because 535 00:31:22,550 --> 00:31:27,590 you know, Mothra and Batra act as the yin and Yang of this sort 536 00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:32,710 of like planetary immune response system, right? 537 00:31:33,550 --> 00:31:36,230 And I love this type of, this type of story. 538 00:31:37,450 --> 00:31:39,450 Like you remember that? You remember loofed. 539 00:31:40,970 --> 00:31:44,530 Yeah, that we released. That's, that's just the story of 540 00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:46,850 Loofed. Is it that the the planet's 541 00:31:46,850 --> 00:31:50,010 immune system is trying to kill you because it was overmind. 542 00:31:50,530 --> 00:31:54,170 But so this, this and like the time travel from the last movie 543 00:31:54,170 --> 00:31:56,170 like this is this is my territory. 544 00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:59,450 Yeah, we're getting, look, the 90s is getting weird and I like 545 00:31:59,850 --> 00:32:03,130 if if Godzilla versus King Gadora went very super science. 546 00:32:03,650 --> 00:32:05,010 Right. We're getting a little into 547 00:32:05,010 --> 00:32:09,490 mysticism here and the blending of mysticism and science in kind 548 00:32:09,490 --> 00:32:11,210 of a fun way, honestly. Yeah. 549 00:32:11,570 --> 00:32:15,770 Yeah. Yeah, I I really like like super 550 00:32:15,770 --> 00:32:18,170 civilization that has left stuff on earth. 551 00:32:25,770 --> 00:32:20,970 I'm a sucker for that shit. And now, like you know, we have 552 00:32:20,970 --> 00:32:24,490 to figure out what to do to not become them. 553 00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:28,570 Is like catnip to. Yeah, yeah. 554 00:32:28,570 --> 00:32:31,650 So this was like I I I knew coming into it. 555 00:32:32,110 --> 00:32:35,230 I don't know how, maybe it was through osmosis or or something, 556 00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:40,150 but like, I knew that Mothra always usually came with like 557 00:32:40,150 --> 00:32:42,950 the two. The fairies, basically. 558 00:32:42,990 --> 00:32:44,470 The fairies, Yeah. Yeah. 559 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:48,390 And I I knew that that was like a part of Mothra's existence. 560 00:32:48,430 --> 00:32:51,990 And I think it was because in the American movies, like, they 561 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:55,070 didn't have that and people were talking about it or something. 562 00:32:55,070 --> 00:32:56,590 I don't. Know, Yeah, that was definitely 563 00:32:56,590 --> 00:32:59,510 a big thing of people being like, you know, it it was 564 00:32:59,510 --> 00:33:03,080 weirdly absent. But usually, even when it's 565 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360 absent, it's a thing that's kind of hinted at. 566 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,320 You know, the legendary movies famously have two twins. 567 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:14,200 In the second one, the one that moth was in, that you you don't 568 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,720 find out that the one Chinese researcher lady is a twin who 569 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280 comes from like a family of twins dating back forever. 570 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,600 And it's like, up there's our, you know, little nod, but 571 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:28,480 there's always something. So I I really like this. 572 00:33:29,350 --> 00:33:32,990 Implementation of it, of them being like the guardians of 573 00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:36,590 Martha and Martha, has been around for so long. 574 00:33:36,670 --> 00:33:41,630 Yeah, it also gives us like a it gives us the ability to sidestep 575 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:45,870 like, you know, previously again, that had been a big pain 576 00:33:45,870 --> 00:33:50,870 point of like, OK, these movies were sympathetic to like Pacific 577 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:54,470 Islanders and and SE Asians and and, you know, people like that, 578 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:57,310 but often in a very paternalistic way. 579 00:33:58,890 --> 00:34:05,010 You know and you know, at least this way, right, like obviously, 580 00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:08,010 like we've we've jumped around through like you know, Thailand 581 00:34:08,010 --> 00:34:10,810 and the Philippines and now we're in, you know, Infant 582 00:34:10,810 --> 00:34:14,170 Island is just a, you know, fictional island in, you know, 583 00:34:14,170 --> 00:34:18,010 off of the coast. But we don't have to have 584 00:34:18,330 --> 00:34:21,610 Japanese extras and brown face, you know. 585 00:34:21,690 --> 00:34:25,170 So like we avoided that. Congratulations. 586 00:34:27,630 --> 00:34:28,670 Progress. Yeah. 587 00:34:29,870 --> 00:34:33,350 So the earth is being excavated and there's like people 588 00:34:33,350 --> 00:34:35,350 protesting construction going on. 589 00:34:35,350 --> 00:34:38,670 Do you love how we go directly from the explanation of hey, by 590 00:34:38,670 --> 00:34:41,790 the way we like over exploited the earth's resources and we 591 00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:45,590 were and and the earth like spewed forward a monster to 592 00:34:45,590 --> 00:34:49,000 punish us for it. An immediate cut to bulldozers 593 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,080 and climate protests, right? Yeah, this movie is not subtle 594 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:54,800 about what it's trying to talk about. 595 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,160 If you miss the point of this movie, I don't know what to tell 596 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,440 you. People have missed the point of 597 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,920 other movies. People watched Godzilla versus 598 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:05,840 King Gdorah and thought it was pro nationalism. 599 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:08,520 That's. So I don't, you know, I don't 600 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,560 know. Well, a company man from the 601 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,160 construction company shows up and he's really annoyed by the 602 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,760 administrations because of course he is. 603 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,360 He gets a call and they they tell him about the egg and he's 604 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:24,400 just like, I don't whatever, I'm trying to do construction, you 605 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,400 know, money. So the the Cosmos are hopeful 606 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,680 that Mothra can help Takia and the others stop the earth's 607 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,360 destruction, basically. Massico reported back to the 608 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:41,840 Bureau about Batra and it was just in time because they they 609 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,220 noticed something was moving that was not Godzilla and it 610 00:35:45,220 --> 00:35:47,620 because it was Batra swimming through the through the ocean 611 00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:54,820 and they they deployed jets but they don't work and it's quickly 612 00:35:54,820 --> 00:36:00,620 moving towards the mainland. Takias crew like gets the egg 613 00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:02,980 off the island on this huge barge. 614 00:36:03,940 --> 00:36:05,660 They didn't show how they did that. 615 00:36:06,100 --> 00:36:08,620 I'm a little interested to know, but I'm I don't. 616 00:36:08,620 --> 00:36:10,540 I didn't need to see it, so you know. 617 00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:14,180 Yeah, Like I I I was I I'm really. 618 00:36:15,110 --> 00:36:19,910 Glad about watching this movie because so many movies get 619 00:36:19,910 --> 00:36:22,230 caught up in over explaining things. 620 00:36:22,350 --> 00:36:25,590 And like, these characters are like, oh, you're tiny fairies 621 00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:28,230 who say you're 12,000 years old. We're on board. 622 00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:31,550 Oh, we need to transport this egg to to the mainland. 623 00:36:31,550 --> 00:36:33,150 It's on a ship. Let's go. 624 00:36:33,190 --> 00:36:36,110 Yeah, yeah. You can't really argue with the 625 00:36:36,190 --> 00:36:40,870 the, the 1 foot tall twin fairy women when they're like, hey, 626 00:36:41,110 --> 00:36:44,000 this is our story, it's like. Well, you ain't nothing I've 627 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,320 seen before, so I'm going to take your word for it. 628 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:49,600 Why did you start talking like we do down here? 629 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:58,160 Shut up the spirit, I blanked out in the spirit of Kentucky 630 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:04,000 took over. Use some new kind of armant. 631 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:10,960 You got bourbon where you're from, so Batchra attacks. 632 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:15,490 The military tries, you know, completely and effectively to 633 00:37:15,490 --> 00:37:18,690 stop Batrow's advance. It's destroying buildings just 634 00:37:18,690 --> 00:37:21,570 by ramming into them. It has, like, electrified horn 635 00:37:21,570 --> 00:37:28,490 blasts and eye lasers. It has a lot of moves, but just 636 00:37:28,490 --> 00:37:31,850 as as Batrow's moving in, Godzilla emerges from the ocean 637 00:37:32,210 --> 00:37:36,460 near the egg barge, and they talk about how like, you know, 638 00:37:36,460 --> 00:37:38,780 the meteor may have triggered all this to happen, but it's all 639 00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:41,100 it's really humanity's fault. In the end, they created all 640 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,860 these natural disasters with their actions. 641 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:50,460 Takia wants to release the egg, you know, to get to get it away 642 00:37:50,460 --> 00:37:52,700 from Godzilla because he doesn't want author to die. 643 00:37:53,780 --> 00:37:57,140 And of course Ando tries to stop him because he's salary man and 644 00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:59,380 it's his job. It's like I will literally have 645 00:37:59,380 --> 00:38:02,060 wasted so much money. I will never get promoted. 646 00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:08,930 Yeah, so they fight about it, but Motha emerges from the egg 647 00:38:09,050 --> 00:38:13,970 regardless of what they do. Honestly, the cosmos don't seem 648 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:16,570 very concerned about this confrontation. 649 00:38:16,850 --> 00:38:18,890 They just kind of look at what's going on. 650 00:38:18,970 --> 00:38:21,050 Like I cut to them and I expected them to look worried or 651 00:38:21,050 --> 00:38:22,010 something. And they're just like, yeah, 652 00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:26,930 this is Motha's got it. Godzilla, like blasts the barge. 653 00:38:26,930 --> 00:38:31,530 Just like the part that stuff that had the egg on it and the 654 00:38:31,530 --> 00:38:36,710 humans start escaping from from the I keep wanting to call like 655 00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:39,550 the truck bed part of the bars, that's not what it's called. 656 00:38:39,630 --> 00:38:41,550 I don't know the part with the egg on it. 657 00:38:41,550 --> 00:38:45,790 They they leave it. The truck bed. 658 00:38:46,990 --> 00:38:50,470 Yeah, the truck bed. The the the truck bed part of 659 00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:53,790 the barge. Martha tries to fight like using 660 00:38:53,790 --> 00:38:57,310 that part of the barge as cover, basically uses like string shot 661 00:38:58,110 --> 00:39:00,350 on Godzilla, and then ends up getting tossed. 662 00:39:00,790 --> 00:39:04,790 So this this part had probably my favorite part of the entire 663 00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:07,920 movie. Where like Martha sort of like 664 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,040 slinks out of the egg and goes into the ocean and like you see 665 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,240 if you cut to Godzilla who's looking around and then Godzilla 666 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,680 just screams like he stubbed his toe. 667 00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:22,100 And you see his tail come out of the water, and Mothra has like 668 00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:23,580 chomped down on the. Tail. 669 00:39:23,860 --> 00:39:27,940 Bite of his tail and it was just like I was laughing. 670 00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:28,940 It was. Perfect. 671 00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:31,740 It was so great. The patented Mothra tail bite. 672 00:39:31,780 --> 00:39:35,100 Mothra has been Mothra like baby Mothra has been biting 673 00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:39,700 Godzilla's tail for decades and it never it I mark out every 674 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,420 single time. It's so good. 675 00:39:42,780 --> 00:39:47,740 This whole extended action sequence I think is brilliant. 676 00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:52,270 I love the way that they have this big middle of the ocean 677 00:39:52,270 --> 00:39:59,270 battle with the like floating like hauler with the eggshell as 678 00:39:59,270 --> 00:40:03,110 a sort of, like geographical marker by which you can Orient 679 00:40:03,110 --> 00:40:07,270 the fight around, you know, I think it's a it's just a great 680 00:40:07,270 --> 00:40:12,070 way to add like a piece of like dynamic environmental, you know, 681 00:40:12,070 --> 00:40:14,870 to what would otherwise just be two things out in a swimming 682 00:40:14,870 --> 00:40:17,690 pool. You know, and instead Mothra's 683 00:40:17,690 --> 00:40:20,130 hiding behind the the barge, right? 684 00:40:20,130 --> 00:40:25,290 Mothra's like going under, going around, you know, and it just 685 00:40:25,330 --> 00:40:28,730 it's it's a great way to like really create a memorable set 686 00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:32,810 piece out of one single object. Right. 687 00:40:33,970 --> 00:40:39,130 It it also, like it reminded me of that that Leslie Nielsen 688 00:40:39,130 --> 00:40:39,770 joke. I can't. 689 00:40:39,890 --> 00:40:41,490 I think it might have been a naked gun. 690 00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:45,260 Where it's like the two of them are like shooting at each other 691 00:40:45,260 --> 00:40:48,340 and they're like right, they're hiding behind the exact same 692 00:40:48,340 --> 00:40:49,740 thing. They're like 2 feet away from 693 00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:54,340 each other And Godzilla like firing his his breath into the 694 00:40:54,380 --> 00:40:57,780 barge and then moth are come popping out and shooting string 695 00:40:57,780 --> 00:41:00,020 shot at him. Like just the two of them like 696 00:41:00,020 --> 00:41:04,140 going back and forth around the bar, just like this one object 697 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:05,660 they're both hiding behind. It was. 698 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:09,180 It was fantastic, yeah. Just incredibly good sequence. 699 00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,310 Well. One second. 700 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:17,870 No. OK, fine, Batter appears. 701 00:41:19,630 --> 00:41:25,670 So batter appears and drags Godzilla underwater, and Mothra 702 00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:29,390 uses this confusion to escape. And then there's one of my 703 00:41:29,390 --> 00:41:33,950 favorite parts where Godzilla just grabs batters like, I guess 704 00:41:33,950 --> 00:41:37,510 tail, but like half its body, basically just slamming it into 705 00:41:37,510 --> 00:41:40,030 the ocean floor. The amount of power. 706 00:41:41,060 --> 00:41:44,100 That something would have to have to move an object that 707 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:48,980 large through the ocean. Well, it's like, remember just 708 00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:52,180 last movie, Godzilla did this exact same thing to King Gadora 709 00:41:52,460 --> 00:41:54,460 up on land, right? Grabbing him by the tails and 710 00:41:54,460 --> 00:41:57,180 just like lifting him into the air and slamming him back into 711 00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:01,340 the earth. I love that this is now like a 712 00:42:01,340 --> 00:42:06,050 consistent thing that Godzilla goes to as as like, look, I'm 713 00:42:06,090 --> 00:42:07,730 strong as fuck and I don't. Have to. 714 00:42:08,010 --> 00:42:11,010 I don't have arms for punching, but I can sure grab you and slam 715 00:42:11,010 --> 00:42:13,090 you around. That's all. 716 00:42:13,090 --> 00:42:14,970 He used to have arms for punching, yeah, that's all he 717 00:42:14,970 --> 00:42:16,610 used to be. Quite the boxer got a littler 718 00:42:16,610 --> 00:42:18,450 arms now. Yeah. 719 00:42:19,010 --> 00:42:21,170 But you got them big old thighs. It makes him sturdy. 720 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,880 So Godzilla does this basically until the earth splits open like 721 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,440 the platonic plates are shifting. 722 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,960 Imagine getting slammed into the earth so fucking hard you open 723 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:38,280 an undersea volcanic. Vent God damn like Batra. 724 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:43,400 To be clear, baby Batra is doing a hell of a job. 725 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,040 Like holding up to Godzilla, But it's really not fair. 726 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,920 Batra's just soaking up a lot of abuse. 727 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,320 Yeah. Can. 728 00:42:53,620 --> 00:42:56,860 I So am I allowed to talk about batress design real quick? 729 00:42:56,860 --> 00:42:58,380 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 730 00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:04,100 OK so like Batres design in in in like baby batre form. 731 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:10,140 I kept just like it looked so much like a Pokémon to me. 732 00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:12,220 It doesn't have big Pokémon energy. 733 00:43:12,780 --> 00:43:15,940 Yeah, like like it looks like a bisharp fucked a caterpie. 734 00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:20,220 Like that is what Batre looks like to me. 735 00:43:21,230 --> 00:43:25,590 At least in the baby for like I just it it was and then like the 736 00:43:25,630 --> 00:43:28,750 the attacks it has, like the electric attacks from its horn, 737 00:43:28,750 --> 00:43:32,430 like I was thinking like this is a gigantic Pokémon sent to like 738 00:43:32,430 --> 00:43:34,550 destroy the earth. Like, that's all I could think 739 00:43:34,550 --> 00:43:36,470 about during this entire season, pretty much. 740 00:43:38,110 --> 00:43:41,350 I got to say, like, Batter's design is very striking because 741 00:43:41,350 --> 00:43:43,870 you hear, OK, we have a Black Mothra, right? 742 00:43:43,870 --> 00:43:46,230 And you think it's going to literally be a Black Mothra. 743 00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:51,300 And I mean, obviously there's a lot of design parallels, but you 744 00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,780 know, the the black, red and yellow is a very striking color 745 00:43:54,780 --> 00:43:58,100 scheme. The, like very heavy armor 746 00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:01,220 plating and the horns and the Tusk make it clear that this is 747 00:44:01,220 --> 00:44:05,260 something that like fights. This is not a little little worm 748 00:44:05,260 --> 00:44:08,740 just trying to survive. And yeah, it's. 749 00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:12,140 The name is odd to me. It's Battle Mothra. 750 00:44:13,540 --> 00:44:16,700 You're thinking it was like this is you're thinking bat, but you 751 00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:19,620 got to remember in Japanese it'd be like Bat Ora. 752 00:44:20,690 --> 00:44:24,170 So it was literally meant to be like a play on Battle Mothra. 753 00:44:25,090 --> 00:44:28,530 So the the, the name translation does not work super well. 754 00:44:28,530 --> 00:44:33,050 But yeah, in in Japanese it's Battlera, so Battle Mothra. 755 00:44:34,810 --> 00:44:36,610 That's that's really cool. I like that. 756 00:44:37,250 --> 00:44:43,770 So, but, yeah, and then also, you know, Godzilla's foes up 757 00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:50,000 until this point have largely been either very mundane, but 758 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:56,920 like large things, right? They've been things like, well, 759 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,280 the first half of the show era, right. 760 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:01,120 It was all big dinosaur, like animals, right? 761 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,200 And then as we got the back half, we got some alien stuff. 762 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:09,360 But even then it was broadly still like we have, you know, 763 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:12,660 things that physically fight more than they do anything. 764 00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:15,540 And it might have a beam, right? King Gadora is about as crazy as 765 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:19,780 shit got, and King Gadora had the the gravity bolts, batter 766 00:45:19,780 --> 00:45:22,980 shows up, and batters just got multiple different kinds of 767 00:45:22,980 --> 00:45:25,940 laser attacks that it can spam everywhere. 768 00:45:26,180 --> 00:45:29,660 This is finally something that fights kind of in the same way 769 00:45:29,660 --> 00:45:33,900 that show a Godzilla or not show a hey say Godzilla does where 770 00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:38,540 it's big, it's bulky, and it just can shoot out and throw 771 00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:43,130 enough energy out that probably anything that's path gets 772 00:45:43,130 --> 00:45:44,930 melted. It's just. 773 00:45:44,970 --> 00:45:47,810 And its name is pronounced the exact same way as you would 774 00:45:47,810 --> 00:45:49,650 pronounce the the main character in. 775 00:45:49,650 --> 00:45:51,450 I mean echo. Fuck. 776 00:45:51,450 --> 00:45:53,690 It is. How do you like battler? 777 00:45:53,770 --> 00:45:56,450 No, it went battler. It's damn. 778 00:45:56,730 --> 00:45:58,370 Yeah, I had to work through that in my head. 779 00:45:58,370 --> 00:46:00,930 I don't like that. I I I don't like that either. 780 00:46:00,930 --> 00:46:02,530 I've been stunned. Locked about it for a moment. 781 00:46:07,660 --> 00:46:10,100 So yeah, the other water, Volcato. 782 00:46:10,260 --> 00:46:11,780 Unless you weren't finished. No, that's. 783 00:46:11,980 --> 00:46:14,900 I mean, that's what I've got is like, yeah, the design's really 784 00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:17,500 good. It fights really unlike anything 785 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,540 else so far. It's it's sturdy in a way that 786 00:46:20,540 --> 00:46:24,220 like, you know, Biolante and King Ghidorah got blown to bits. 787 00:46:24,420 --> 00:46:26,340 You know, when Godzilla let the breath out. 788 00:46:26,340 --> 00:46:29,740 But Batres taken a hit or two, You know, as a baby. 789 00:46:29,860 --> 00:46:33,580 So. Yeah, and now they're all taking 790 00:46:33,580 --> 00:46:36,460 a huge volcanic blast underwater. 791 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:44,000 But now the gang is in Manila and Moscow and Takia talk about 792 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,840 their past. You know their their honeymoon 793 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,680 in Cairo. The the the Maritomo group, 794 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:55,440 which is the the group doing development, the unwelcome 795 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,000 development. Want to take the cosmos and, 796 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,400 like, turn them into spokespeople? 797 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,800 You know, they want to do the thing that we learned was a bad 798 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,720 idea, and the thing in the first Godzilla or the first Mothra 799 00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:07,000 that, yeah, turned out so well for everyone involved. 800 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,960 Yeah. Mosiko, of course, is like, 801 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,560 well, we can't break our promise to the cosmos because that we we 802 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:14,880 told them that we would help them. 803 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,920 And she goes, She greets her, her daughter Midori, and Takia 804 00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,760 just slips out the back because he has other things. 805 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,160 He has other old plans. He's scheming. 806 00:47:28,230 --> 00:47:31,230 So Professor Fugazella from earlier, he's investing the 807 00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:35,070 volcanic activity because like basically the meteor caused it 808 00:47:35,390 --> 00:47:38,390 from the impact overall, but you know, it's all very 809 00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:43,670 interconnected. The Maritomo group, when asked, 810 00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:47,910 will not return the cosmos to to the Bureau. 811 00:47:50,110 --> 00:47:54,630 Hey, we own these living beings. Right, right. 812 00:47:55,810 --> 00:47:57,890 The the cosmos start looking around the room they're trapped 813 00:47:57,890 --> 00:48:00,250 in, like there's a huge fish tank and stuff, and they're out. 814 00:48:00,250 --> 00:48:02,770 They look at the sunset and then they start singing the song to 815 00:48:02,770 --> 00:48:06,690 call Mothra to them. So as we know, when they sing 816 00:48:06,690 --> 00:48:10,210 that song, Mothra begins moving in a straight line towards them. 817 00:48:10,290 --> 00:48:14,290 And fuck anything that happens to be in that straight line. 818 00:48:14,610 --> 00:48:17,250 It's actually incredible. I almost feel like this movie, 819 00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:21,010 like this movie obviously works if you have not watched any 820 00:48:21,210 --> 00:48:24,010 Godzillara Mothra stuff before, but. 821 00:48:24,410 --> 00:48:27,730 If you I can attest to that, if you've seen the original Mothra, 822 00:48:28,090 --> 00:48:31,850 like the bit of them singing the song and then Mothra heading 823 00:48:31,850 --> 00:48:36,010 into the water feels like direct, like, oh, she gonna do 824 00:48:36,050 --> 00:48:37,170 it. Yeah. 825 00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:41,650 It Mothra. At this point, to me, it was it 826 00:48:41,650 --> 00:48:46,210 was like, she's like a giant golden retriever who like, got 827 00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:50,020 called across the yard. And is now just like barreling 828 00:48:50,020 --> 00:48:53,420 through all the picnic tables and coolers because it's like, 829 00:48:53,580 --> 00:48:57,060 oh, I'm coming, I'm coming, yes. And the thing about Mothra, like 830 00:48:57,220 --> 00:49:01,060 a one of Mothra's superpowers, I think is being underestimated at 831 00:49:01,060 --> 00:49:04,820 this point. And like BOK, obviously Mothra 832 00:49:04,820 --> 00:49:08,420 cannot hold up in a fight against Godzilla or Batra, but 833 00:49:08,580 --> 00:49:13,140 in the grand scheme of things, that is a massive tube of meat 834 00:49:13,860 --> 00:49:17,030 that is just ramming at high speed. 835 00:49:17,070 --> 00:49:18,950 OKI need to really rephrase that entire. 836 00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:24,270 Yeah, can you please? That is a massive creature, like 837 00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:29,550 the amount of physical mass on even the infant Mothra. 838 00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:35,670 Just barrelling at at at actually surprisingly fast 839 00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:40,030 through the water like your boat's going to get fucking 840 00:49:40,030 --> 00:49:42,110 broke. I don't know what else to say. 841 00:49:44,130 --> 00:49:46,010 So yeah, Mothra is like swimming directly for them. 842 00:49:47,090 --> 00:49:49,290 And of course the Bureau is concerned because they're like, 843 00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:50,970 well, there's about to be a lot of destruction. 844 00:49:51,170 --> 00:49:55,970 We don't really know where the cosmos are being held, so, so we 845 00:49:55,970 --> 00:49:58,930 can't even actually project where Mothra is going 846 00:49:59,010 --> 00:50:01,450 necessarily. Right, but everything between 847 00:50:01,450 --> 00:50:03,210 those two points is about to be gone. 848 00:50:05,970 --> 00:50:10,090 But that said, now the cosmos go missing because it turns out 849 00:50:10,090 --> 00:50:13,090 Takia or our thief boy stole them. 850 00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:16,250 To sell to an American company for $1,000,000. 851 00:50:18,650 --> 00:50:22,530 No, I mean, he did steal from a company, but he's also selling 852 00:50:22,690 --> 00:50:23,650 living beings. Yeah. 853 00:50:23,810 --> 00:50:26,450 Can we stop trafficking the fucking fairies? 854 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:30,050 Right. Like, I really, I I kind of lost 855 00:50:30,050 --> 00:50:34,090 track of what was happening here because like one minute the evil 856 00:50:34,090 --> 00:50:38,170 corporation has them and then suddenly Takia has them and is 857 00:50:38,170 --> 00:50:40,130 selling them. And like, it's never. 858 00:50:40,670 --> 00:50:45,150 Really made clear how they got from point A to point B and how 859 00:50:45,150 --> 00:50:47,590 he knew where they were. But like, also, I'm just going 860 00:50:47,590 --> 00:50:49,790 to go with it. Yeah, it does feel like there's 861 00:50:49,790 --> 00:50:52,590 a small chunk of movie that happened off screen that would 862 00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:56,590 have been better if it happened on screen, you know, because 863 00:50:56,710 --> 00:51:00,270 they've, they very intentionally wanted to drop him out of the 864 00:51:00,270 --> 00:51:03,070 narrative for a while where we stopped being connected to his 865 00:51:03,070 --> 00:51:07,110 point of view. But like, yeah, we went from A 866 00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:11,760 to C and it's like, I would like, I would like to have had B 867 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,600 happen in a couple of scenes, you know? 868 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,600 Yeah, five extra minutes of footage could have gone a long 869 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,720 way, but. Yeah, well, forces are deployed 870 00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:24,240 to stop Mothra. Still doesn't work. 871 00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,000 They keep trying, but it never works. 872 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:31,080 The Cosmos continue to sing from Mothra, from Takia's house now. 873 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,160 And so Masako, Midori and Mickey, who is back again. 874 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:40,780 Are in the car and Miki uses her choir. 875 00:51:40,820 --> 00:51:45,860 Miki Sagusa cameo. Yeah, she's like trying to 876 00:51:45,860 --> 00:51:48,540 listen for the song basically to to lead them there. 877 00:51:49,580 --> 00:51:53,220 Mothra arrives. People are evacuating on those. 878 00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:54,820 Like, we should probably get out of here. 879 00:51:54,820 --> 00:51:57,620 But like, the head of the company is like, no, it's fine, 880 00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:00,140 It can just destroy everything. I'll just buy new buildings. 881 00:52:00,580 --> 00:52:03,580 Yeah. In fact, have the military 882 00:52:03,620 --> 00:52:06,140 unload everything they have. Fuck whatever we do. 883 00:52:06,140 --> 00:52:08,290 This city. Right. 884 00:52:09,290 --> 00:52:12,090 Godzilla wants you to remember that capitalists are never the 885 00:52:12,090 --> 00:52:14,050 good guys. That's right. 886 00:52:14,890 --> 00:52:18,330 So they determined the Mothra is headed for Akasaka for they're 887 00:52:18,330 --> 00:52:22,490 going now. So Mosco, Miki, Midori all 888 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:24,090 arrived. They they start grilling, 889 00:52:24,170 --> 00:52:28,090 talking about what's going on. His daughter knew what was 890 00:52:28,090 --> 00:52:29,770 happening. Like what did not have to be 891 00:52:29,770 --> 00:52:31,290 told. Like has just figured everything 892 00:52:31,290 --> 00:52:35,150 out. The cosmos say that they'll 893 00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:38,550 they'll stop Mothra from attacking, But like you need to 894 00:52:38,550 --> 00:52:40,550 take us to Mothra for us to do that. 895 00:52:42,230 --> 00:52:45,590 So they they have the cosmos talk to Mothra, and as Martha 896 00:52:45,590 --> 00:52:51,030 turns to leave back the way that she came, the military continues 897 00:52:51,030 --> 00:52:55,510 to fire at her and manages to hurt her and she kind of keels 898 00:52:55,510 --> 00:52:58,710 over onto this building. And meanwhile, the volcanic 899 00:52:58,710 --> 00:53:03,740 activity is still increasing. The cosmos are like, well, it's 900 00:53:03,980 --> 00:53:06,740 Mothra's not dying, right? She's just completing her her 901 00:53:06,740 --> 00:53:09,700 larval stage. And so she rolls up in her 902 00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:12,100 cocoon on this on this huge building. 903 00:53:12,980 --> 00:53:17,220 There is a There's a really funny cut, and this is my sense 904 00:53:17,220 --> 00:53:21,380 of humor. So there's this real funny cut 905 00:53:21,380 --> 00:53:23,820 Where? The guy is talking about like, 906 00:53:23,860 --> 00:53:27,100 oh, the volcano is going to explode in like 30 minutes. 907 00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,940 We've got to do something. And then it's smash cuts to 908 00:53:29,940 --> 00:53:32,980 tanks rolling up and in my brain, I'm just like, they're 909 00:53:32,980 --> 00:53:34,420 going to attack the volcano with this. 910 00:53:35,620 --> 00:53:38,020 We got to shoot this. This movie doesn't take place in 911 00:53:38,020 --> 00:53:42,580 America, OK? Yeah, we're not going to nuke 912 00:53:42,660 --> 00:53:46,780 her. Do you ever stop and think about 913 00:53:46,780 --> 00:53:49,820 how close we came to nuking a random hurricane? 914 00:53:50,780 --> 00:53:53,010 I prefer not to, Yeah. Yeah. 915 00:53:53,010 --> 00:53:54,770 We don't live in a serious timeline in new. 916 00:53:54,770 --> 00:54:01,130 York I have a lot of alcohol on my friend, and it'll be more now 917 00:54:01,130 --> 00:54:02,770 that I've taught you about infusing. 918 00:54:03,690 --> 00:54:08,570 That's right. So the Cosmos are on TV and the 919 00:54:08,570 --> 00:54:12,250 Maritomo group is like, super mad that that their property, 920 00:54:12,250 --> 00:54:13,610 quote UN quote, was stolen from them. 921 00:54:15,050 --> 00:54:18,170 But Mount Fuji erupts. And on those, finally, like, you 922 00:54:18,170 --> 00:54:19,410 know what? They're right. 923 00:54:19,410 --> 00:54:22,130 The Earth is angry and you're the bad guy now. 924 00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:26,180 He gets fired, but you know good, good for him. 925 00:54:27,940 --> 00:54:31,300 Godzilla arrives and then one of my other favorite scenes in 926 00:54:31,300 --> 00:54:34,260 terms of like camping this happens and like the main guy 927 00:54:34,260 --> 00:54:37,980 from the Bureau goes main screen on and like or two it is English 928 00:54:38,180 --> 00:54:41,660 and the entire room spins around like well that the whole room 929 00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:45,820 but like the table they're on and near like the whole center 930 00:54:45,820 --> 00:54:48,220 of the room turns. And they're all just staring at 931 00:54:48,220 --> 00:54:50,140 this wall as it opens up. Like, it's huge. 932 00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:54,140 It's so good. I love this fucking random scifi 933 00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:56,140 headquarters they have in this movie. 934 00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,780 And like that there's there's the most 90s computer simulation 935 00:55:00,780 --> 00:55:04,420 of anything, and it's like choosing areas to zoom in and 936 00:55:04,420 --> 00:55:07,060 makes no sense. But like, shows Godzilla's 937 00:55:07,060 --> 00:55:08,620 stats. Apparently Godzilla weighs like 938 00:55:08,620 --> 00:55:12,870 60,000 tons, which is a lot. And it just shows that for some 939 00:55:12,870 --> 00:55:14,430 reason, I don't know what they were doing with that. 940 00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:15,750 I think they just wanted a cool secret. 941 00:55:15,750 --> 00:55:19,870 I had the Wikipedia page open. Yeah, yeah, I love that. 942 00:55:19,870 --> 00:55:24,910 They just have like a Godzilla, you know, info screen just ready 943 00:55:24,910 --> 00:55:27,110 whenever they whenever Godzilla might show up. 944 00:55:27,990 --> 00:55:29,870 Well, and I mean that's been kind of, I would have 945 00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:33,430 established over the last few movies that like because this, 946 00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:36,070 this is 1 continuous thing that's happening to them. 947 00:55:36,580 --> 00:55:38,580 So they they had to develop some type of countermeasure. 948 00:55:38,580 --> 00:55:41,060 I do love because this is the thing that you called out with 949 00:55:41,060 --> 00:55:44,060 Godzilla versus Biolante is like, OK, the original Godzilla 950 00:55:44,060 --> 00:55:48,420 is 1954 and then in this timeline we wait 30 more years 951 00:55:48,420 --> 00:55:52,580 before the 2nd Godzilla appears. You know and we we get into this 952 00:55:52,580 --> 00:55:54,900 shit, you know everyone thought they were good. 953 00:55:54,940 --> 00:55:57,740 We learned we're not. And then versus Biolante opening 954 00:55:57,740 --> 00:56:03,980 with them like setting up the the various like Defcon 135 on 955 00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:06,940 Godzilla. What do we do at each of these 956 00:56:06,940 --> 00:56:11,340 stages of awake? Just yeah, this is this is a 957 00:56:11,340 --> 00:56:16,020 world that is now just had to evolve and change based on the 958 00:56:16,020 --> 00:56:19,420 existence of Godzilla. And I mean, they have all these 959 00:56:19,420 --> 00:56:21,620 DEFCON levels. They always get to the maximum 960 00:56:21,620 --> 00:56:24,700 one and then they go to the next one that isn't listed, which is 961 00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:26,340 basically just fuck it, wee ball. 962 00:56:26,900 --> 00:56:30,980 Yeah, fuck it, wee ball. Hey, I do just want you to know, 963 00:56:31,340 --> 00:56:36,480 I think, I think to mock me for the tube of meat thing. 964 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,280 I'm pretty sure, yeah, my wife just slid an onto a sausage 965 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:45,560 under the door. So thanks for that Hun. 966 00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:52,120 Well, so as I said, Mount Fuji erupting. 967 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,560 Godzilla broke through the Earth's mantle. 968 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,280 Just punched its way out of this mountain, basically as it was 969 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,120 erupting. Didn't care. 970 00:57:02,340 --> 00:57:04,820 Kool-aid manned his way through the earth. 971 00:57:05,940 --> 00:57:10,620 Right, so he it shows up crashes to the power line. 972 00:57:10,620 --> 00:57:13,420 The description that this is just the thing that Godzilla has 973 00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:16,640 probably been doing for a while, right? 974 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:19,680 That Godzilla clearly just sometimes what he needs to get 975 00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:23,720 somewhere quick, fucking bust down through the mantle or 976 00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,640 through the the crust into the mantle and swims through the 977 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,640 mantle to where he needs to go is very like, that's metal as 978 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,880 shit. Godzilla also moves in straight 979 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,880 lines. I think so. 980 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:39,000 Godzilla does a reverse airplane. 981 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,360 He just goes down and goes. Yeah. 982 00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:46,510 So Godzilla crashes through some power lines and everybody 983 00:57:46,510 --> 00:57:50,910 switches to emergency power and Mothra finally emerges from her 984 00:57:50,910 --> 00:57:55,590 cocoon and goes to battle Batra. So now that we got like Batra in 985 00:57:55,590 --> 00:57:58,950 the ocean, Godzilla's attacking from this mountain I love. 986 00:57:59,230 --> 00:58:04,910 So I think the image of Mothra building her cocoon on Tokyo 987 00:58:04,910 --> 00:58:10,390 Tower in the original movie is a more powerful like location than 988 00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:13,870 the the diet building. But like what are you going to 989 00:58:13,870 --> 00:58:15,550 do do Tokyo Tower again? I just don't. 990 00:58:15,590 --> 00:58:18,750 You know, they wanted something different, a little more modern, 991 00:58:18,750 --> 00:58:22,670 whatever. But the actual sequence of 992 00:58:22,830 --> 00:58:27,510 Mothra emerging from the cocoon is so fucking good. 993 00:58:28,430 --> 00:58:31,910 And the wings unfolding and and and all of this is again a 994 00:58:31,910 --> 00:58:38,830 physical prop and puppet. Doing all of this is just wild 995 00:58:39,310 --> 00:58:42,790 to me. You know how good the sequence 996 00:58:42,790 --> 00:58:48,030 looks, how good the cocoon looks, you know, got how good 997 00:58:48,030 --> 00:58:51,230 Mothra looks, right? We, we had like this, this very 998 00:58:51,230 --> 00:58:55,390 fun, like ratty looking ass. You know Mothra in the 50s and 999 00:58:55,390 --> 00:59:01,590 60s and now we have this very clean, pristine, like whiter 1000 00:59:01,590 --> 00:59:07,030 than snow, you know Mothra. And there is kind of a sense of 1001 00:59:07,030 --> 00:59:11,400 wonder to it that has been missing for a bit in Godzilla. 1002 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,640 And I I'm, I'm kind of here for those, those quiet moments of 1003 00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:19,400 all. Yeah, well the military does 1004 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,840 what it can to hold off Godzilla, what little that is, 1005 00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:26,360 and Mothra and Batra start fighting as Godzilla makes its 1006 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:28,720 way towards Yokohara. We also talk about Batra 1007 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,640 transforming because Mothra has the whole great like Cocoon 1008 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:38,010 Sequence and Batra. They they they cut to batter. 1009 00:59:38,010 --> 00:59:40,730 It's the first time we've seen batters since he disappeared 1010 00:59:40,730 --> 00:59:44,850 under the water with Godzilla. And is this batters swimming as 1011 00:59:44,850 --> 00:59:50,770 hard as possible? It goes like before, just 1012 00:59:51,050 --> 00:59:54,330 immediately, like rage, transforming in a ball of light 1013 00:59:54,330 --> 00:59:58,890 into the adult form which looks like a goddamn demon. 1014 00:59:59,890 --> 01:00:01,050 Yeah. Yeah. 1015 01:00:02,150 --> 01:00:03,910 But I love. Like Batra is pissed. 1016 01:00:03,950 --> 01:00:06,670 Everything about Batra's movement reads pissed. 1017 01:00:07,150 --> 01:00:12,910 It's it's very good, yeah. There there's also a a part in 1018 01:00:12,910 --> 01:00:16,910 this where like the music is going like there's this real 1019 01:00:16,910 --> 01:00:22,590 like Final Fantasy as heroic music playing as the military is 1020 01:00:22,590 --> 01:00:25,670 trying to like attack Godzilla, and Godzilla is just like 1021 01:00:25,870 --> 01:00:28,510 swatting all of them down and killing all of them. 1022 01:00:29,010 --> 01:00:33,690 And the music just has this abrupt cut and just stops when 1023 01:00:33,690 --> 01:00:36,450 the last plane explodes. Like there's all this, like 1024 01:00:36,530 --> 01:00:40,610 fantastic music and then like the last plane explodes and then 1025 01:00:40,650 --> 01:00:43,850 it's silence and Godzilla starts walking towards, you know, you 1026 01:00:43,850 --> 01:00:45,930 know, like the where the big battle is going to happen. 1027 01:00:46,210 --> 01:00:48,130 And I love that. Yeah. 1028 01:00:48,250 --> 01:00:52,290 Yeah. It's IFA Kube fucking popped off 1029 01:00:52,290 --> 01:00:57,030 on this movie. Hey folks, Derek here. 1030 01:00:57,790 --> 01:01:01,550 So we dealt with some technical difficulties during the 1031 01:01:01,550 --> 01:01:06,910 recording of this episode and it required us to take a little bit 1032 01:01:06,910 --> 01:01:08,750 of a break and get those things taken care of. 1033 01:01:08,750 --> 01:01:13,710 It is now a week later. As you can tell, I'm sick, I'm 1034 01:01:13,710 --> 01:01:16,990 sick and my voice is completely fucked up, so that's going to be 1035 01:01:16,990 --> 01:01:19,150 just how I sound the rest of this episode. 1036 01:01:19,910 --> 01:01:21,870 Charlotte atma Y'all, y'all with me. 1037 01:01:22,310 --> 01:01:25,800 Hello. Yeah, we're here. 1038 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:29,680 This is not the worst catastrophic tech failure we've 1039 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,800 faced. We were able to recover 1040 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,600 everything we'd recorded up to a certain point. 1041 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,360 But obviously, you know, it's it's it is a little inside 1042 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,280 baseball, but like sometimes that's all you can do is just 1043 01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,520 go. This is what we've got. 1044 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:46,400 We'll pick up from this point on another day. 1045 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,560 So why don't you pick us up from there, Charlotte? 1046 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:54,920 So Batra is coming from the sea. Godzilla is like coming from the 1047 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,240 mountain. Because as I believe I had 1048 01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,240 already mentioned in the version that we saved, you know, 1049 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,240 Godzilla has been like digging up through the Earth's mantle to 1050 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:08,200 get to where it needs to be. The military is trying to fend 1051 01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,160 off Godzilla as best that they can. 1052 01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:14,080 But this is when Mothra and Batra start fighting each other 1053 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,760 as Godzilla is like making its way into Yokohama. 1054 01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:24,820 And this is where the the building collapses on Godzilla. 1055 01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,980 Believe it was. Bachelor that brings brings a 1056 01:02:29,060 --> 01:02:31,980 building down on top of Godzilla and Godzilla was like buried 1057 01:02:31,980 --> 01:02:37,660 under the rubble, right? And so the Mothra Bachelor is 1058 01:02:37,660 --> 01:02:42,140 still fighting Mothra like crash Lands as Godzilla emerges from 1059 01:02:42,140 --> 01:02:44,540 this rubble to, like, grab and toss Batra. 1060 01:02:46,540 --> 01:02:50,570 And like Godzilla was probably just using the building as cover 1061 01:02:50,570 --> 01:02:52,810 at that point, you know? Yeah, it definitely felt like he 1062 01:02:52,810 --> 01:02:55,970 was kind of lying and wait to like, jump out when Batra got 1063 01:02:55,970 --> 01:02:59,610 close. Yeah, And then Godzilla like 1064 01:02:59,610 --> 01:03:06,210 starts moving in on Batra, but Mothra swoops in to swoops back 1065 01:03:06,210 --> 01:03:11,490 in like blasts Godzilla back into a building and lands next 1066 01:03:11,490 --> 01:03:14,530 to Batra. And then they start talking like 1067 01:03:14,650 --> 01:03:17,820 the the cosmos are singing and there's energy going back and 1068 01:03:17,820 --> 01:03:22,460 forth between Mothra and Batra. They're not, like, actually, 1069 01:03:22,460 --> 01:03:26,180 like, audibly communicating, but you see, like the antenna glow 1070 01:03:26,180 --> 01:03:28,220 and they're clearly having, like, a sort of psychic 1071 01:03:28,220 --> 01:03:32,900 communication, right? Godzilla interrupts it, but 1072 01:03:33,620 --> 01:03:37,300 Mothra releases like this powder that reflects all of Godzilla's 1073 01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:39,940 beams back. Which is sick. 1074 01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,660 I love this. So of course you might remember 1075 01:03:43,660 --> 01:03:46,460 the original Mothra had, like, the poison scales from the 1076 01:03:46,460 --> 01:03:49,060 wings. But I think there's something so 1077 01:03:49,060 --> 01:03:52,140 much more interesting about, like the scale cloud that like 1078 01:03:52,140 --> 01:03:55,780 dampens and reflects and refracts energy. 1079 01:03:56,500 --> 01:03:59,620 It's, you know it. It's a very interesting take on 1080 01:03:59,620 --> 01:04:05,260 like a defensive ability, right? And so Mothra ends up getting 1081 01:04:05,260 --> 01:04:09,130 flipped over and Godzilla moves in to finish her. 1082 01:04:09,130 --> 01:04:10,690 But then Batra swoops in on that. 1083 01:04:10,970 --> 01:04:16,490 Batra picks up an entire Ferris wheel and throws it at Godzilla, 1084 01:04:16,690 --> 01:04:20,330 and Mother is like following up. Sick ass sequence. 1085 01:04:20,730 --> 01:04:22,730 That. Was my throwing the fucking 1086 01:04:22,730 --> 01:04:25,770 Ferris wheel. Yeah, yeah, that that was I I, 1087 01:04:25,770 --> 01:04:29,490 in my notes, I wrote that down as Oh my God, Batra with the 1088 01:04:29,490 --> 01:04:32,810 steel chair. Yeah, because, like, that was 1089 01:04:32,810 --> 01:04:37,080 just amazing. That was the fucking that was 1090 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:39,520 the fucking Smackdown moment for sure. 1091 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,320 Yeah. And I I just have to point out 1092 01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:49,440 as part of you know, growing up with not growing up with but 1093 01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,720 like mainly watching American Godzilla aside from you know 1094 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,040 like Broadzilla what Matthew, what's I called Matthew 1095 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,400 Broderick's. Yeah, yeah. 1096 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:02,560 The 98 Tristar, Yeah. Yeah, Godzilla is usually. 1097 01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,120 The hero, sort of in the newer American Godzilla movies. 1098 01:05:07,440 --> 01:05:11,280 And so for me, the big plot twist here like that, I didn't 1099 01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:12,920 see coming. Like the entire time I was 1100 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:17,040 expecting Godzilla and Mothra to team up on Batra because Batra's 1101 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,760 the bad one, you know, And like that's bad Mothra. 1102 01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,040 But no, no, it's, it's Mothra and Batra teaming up here on 1103 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:27,440 Godzilla, which is like, I just like, it blows my mind. 1104 01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:30,200 I like this is like. Junior Godzilla moment. 1105 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:34,480 A lot of people are used to the idea, primarily because I think 1106 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:37,160 a lot of like cultural consciousness of Godzilla comes 1107 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:41,880 from the later, like 60s and 70s movies where Godzilla's straight 1108 01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:45,520 up just a good guy, like damn near a superhero. 1109 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,080 And of course, that's the direction that the legendary 1110 01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:51,120 movies have leaned in as well, that Godzilla is, you know, 1111 01:05:51,120 --> 01:05:52,920 something large and benevolent that. 1112 01:05:53,290 --> 01:05:56,850 You know, devastation that I'm sorry about the dogs, but like 1113 01:05:56,850 --> 01:05:58,970 the devastation that occurs around Godzilla is just 1114 01:05:59,010 --> 01:06:04,530 accidental as he does his job as a sort of you know, planetary 1115 01:06:06,210 --> 01:06:09,890 like immune system. And the reality of it is that 1116 01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:14,810 actually Batra in this movie is closer to that idea of of 1117 01:06:14,810 --> 01:06:17,450 something now. So you have like Mothra and 1118 01:06:17,450 --> 01:06:21,930 Batra, who are both sort of agents of the planet in their 1119 01:06:21,930 --> 01:06:26,210 way, Mothra representing a view of environmentalism that 1120 01:06:26,370 --> 01:06:28,290 includes humans as a part of that. 1121 01:06:28,610 --> 01:06:33,690 And Batra coming from more of like you know a fucking like do 1122 01:06:33,690 --> 01:06:37,210 Marie perspective of like you know the Earth can only survive 1123 01:06:37,210 --> 01:06:40,170 if you get rid of humanity, you know? 1124 01:06:40,170 --> 01:06:42,210 But Godzilla is not even on that scale. 1125 01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:46,300 Godzilla is just. A singular walking catastrophe, 1126 01:06:47,220 --> 01:06:48,860 yeah. Yeah, yeah. 1127 01:06:50,020 --> 01:06:51,820 See a last minute fucking plot twist? 1128 01:06:51,820 --> 01:06:56,740 This 3 way becomes A1V2. Yeah, Mothra and Bachelor just 1129 01:06:56,740 --> 01:06:58,580 are Wambo comboing. Godzilla. 1130 01:07:00,140 --> 01:07:03,580 Godzilla goes down. Bachelor goes to grab Godzilla, 1131 01:07:03,580 --> 01:07:06,390 but gets like chomped just bleeding. 1132 01:07:06,430 --> 01:07:09,270 Oh yeah, yeah. Like Batra, like, lands on his 1133 01:07:09,350 --> 01:07:11,190 chest, right? Yeah. 1134 01:07:11,190 --> 01:07:13,430 To like try and lift him and Mothra is trying to lift from 1135 01:07:13,430 --> 01:07:15,790 like the tail. But Batra clearly has the 1136 01:07:15,790 --> 01:07:21,350 dangerous end right? Yeah, so but but Bachelor and 1137 01:07:21,350 --> 01:07:24,950 Mothra like pick up Godzilla to carry him out to see. 1138 01:07:26,630 --> 01:07:29,630 But like Bachelor is wounded and like bleeding everywhere, 1139 01:07:29,630 --> 01:07:33,040 bleeding on Godzilla also ends up getting atomic breaths, 1140 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:35,080 because Godzilla doesn't want to be carried out to sea. 1141 01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,960 But Bachelor and Godzilla fall into the ocean and Motha creates 1142 01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,360 like this energy ring that ascends down towards them. 1143 01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,720 And that ring has the symbol on it from the from the window 1144 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:49,880 earlier where the light came through in that cave. 1145 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,280 Yeah, it's a It's a really interesting sequence because, 1146 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:58,560 like, it's actually very. Like I think it's really 1147 01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:02,640 impactful because you see Batra just taking hit after hit after 1148 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,600 hit as they both try to carry Godzilla out to sea. 1149 01:08:06,880 --> 01:08:10,040 And then you finally see the point where Batra's eyes go dark 1150 01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:14,640 and stops moving and is basically just gliding and and 1151 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,720 Martha kind of has the realization and just lets go and 1152 01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:20,680 lets Godzilla and and Batres corpse plummet into the sea. 1153 01:08:22,210 --> 01:08:25,130 And it's like I think it's, you know, it's, it's it's kind of 1154 01:08:25,130 --> 01:08:26,770 impactful I feel like. Yeah. 1155 01:08:27,010 --> 01:08:32,850 Yeah, it really was the the just the imagery of like the two of 1156 01:08:32,850 --> 01:08:35,930 them working together and carrying Godzilla out and he's 1157 01:08:35,930 --> 01:08:39,529 like this crying baby that's like atomic breathing and just 1158 01:08:39,529 --> 01:08:42,130 like struggling as he's being, like shipped out to sea. 1159 01:08:42,130 --> 01:08:44,140 Like I really like that. Yeah. 1160 01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:47,460 And then I'm not and the movie doesn't really specifically say 1161 01:08:47,740 --> 01:08:50,700 my interpretation of the whole Ring of Light thing is that it's 1162 01:08:50,700 --> 01:08:54,700 something close to like a seal, if that makes sense. 1163 01:08:54,859 --> 01:08:58,859 I mean, Mothra is always traded in very like East Asian, you 1164 01:08:58,859 --> 01:08:59,979 know, like the. The, the. 1165 01:08:59,979 --> 01:09:02,100 The. The twin like shrine maidens and 1166 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:06,660 everything like that. So yeah, my read on that is that 1167 01:09:06,660 --> 01:09:10,100 it's it's something of a seal to like, keep Godzilla in place for 1168 01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:13,500 a time. You know, so that he can't just, 1169 01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:16,420 like, immediately get back up and go fuck people up again. 1170 01:09:17,140 --> 01:09:25,060 Yeah, So in a in another huge plot twist, the cosmos warn 1171 01:09:25,060 --> 01:09:27,979 everyone that there's going to be another meteor coming at the 1172 01:09:27,979 --> 01:09:31,740 end of the 20th century. And Batra was supposed to stop 1173 01:09:31,740 --> 01:09:35,779 that meteor, apparently. But with Batra dead, Mothra is 1174 01:09:35,779 --> 01:09:37,859 going to have to find a new way to help everyone. 1175 01:09:40,020 --> 01:09:44,140 So everyone waves goodbye as Mothra flies off at the cosmos. 1176 01:09:45,540 --> 01:09:49,660 And they're basically like, hey, as we as we go to the next, you 1177 01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:52,700 know, as we get past the year 2000, please think about Mothra. 1178 01:09:54,980 --> 01:09:58,100 But then they say that Mothra will come back. 1179 01:09:58,100 --> 01:10:00,780 But until then, it's up to the people to save the Earth. 1180 01:10:01,460 --> 01:10:05,380 And I mean it's it's 1992. So we know that we haven't done 1181 01:10:05,380 --> 01:10:07,460 that yet. But Mothra flies. 1182 01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:09,260 It has. Done an incredibly bad job, in 1183 01:10:09,260 --> 01:10:13,660 fact, yeah, Mothra flies into space in the credits role. 1184 01:10:14,620 --> 01:10:19,500 Yeah, that's it. I also I love the the the cosmos 1185 01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:24,300 like literally turn into energy and like merge into Mothra as 1186 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:27,940 Mothra goes off into space to just intercept this meteor. 1187 01:10:28,540 --> 01:10:32,900 So yeah. Yeah, good ass. 1188 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,560 Movie. So let's talk a little bit about 1189 01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,200 kind of what happens in the aftermath of this movie. 1190 01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:47,360 So First off, the good news. This bitch made money in a way 1191 01:10:47,360 --> 01:10:50,360 that versus Bayolante and versus King Gadora did not. 1192 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,920 So, you know, this was the shot in the arm, really, that the Hey 1193 01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,070 Say series needed. In order to continue going like 1194 01:11:00,150 --> 01:11:02,710 it was a good call, Mothra is very popular. 1195 01:11:02,750 --> 01:11:06,510 They made a really, really fucking good movie that captured 1196 01:11:06,910 --> 01:11:09,630 all of the reasons why. Like the Mothra movies were some 1197 01:11:09,630 --> 01:11:11,910 of the best out of the original batch. 1198 01:11:13,670 --> 01:11:15,430 So, I mean, it was a good choice. 1199 01:11:15,470 --> 01:11:21,550 It paid off. We do have a new Godzilla suit 1200 01:11:21,550 --> 01:11:26,110 in this movie. Just a second, man. 1201 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,160 Which is the thing that happens every so often anyway. 1202 01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:38,080 You can kind of somewhat tell because they they the the suit 1203 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,600 they used in Godzilla versus King Ghidorah was lost. 1204 01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:46,120 I I say lost. It was stolen actually during 1205 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:49,640 filming and like somebody that worked there. 1206 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,640 They never found out who stole the suit. 1207 01:11:53,480 --> 01:12:00,290 It was eventually found. Much later, just like all kinds 1208 01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:05,650 of fucked up near Tokyo Bay. So somebody took the suit. 1209 01:12:06,090 --> 01:12:09,250 And I mean, I don't know if they were going to parties as 1210 01:12:09,250 --> 01:12:16,890 Godzilla or what, but but so they say, I don't know, you 1211 01:12:16,890 --> 01:12:19,490 know, I don't think they found it like on the beach. 1212 01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:21,580 I think it was like. Close by. 1213 01:12:23,380 --> 01:12:25,700 But like, it was definitely water damaged. 1214 01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:28,420 Like again, somebody had had some fun with this thing. 1215 01:12:29,940 --> 01:12:38,540 So what they ended up doing was, excuse me, I've read some places 1216 01:12:38,540 --> 01:12:42,260 say that this happens after they recover the suit, and I've read 1217 01:12:42,260 --> 01:12:44,420 some other places that don't mention that detail, so I don't 1218 01:12:44,420 --> 01:12:49,720 know which one is true, but. This suit would primarily be 1219 01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,320 used for, like the underwater sequences and like heavily 1220 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:57,240 obscured shots, which is the thing they've been doing for a 1221 01:12:57,240 --> 01:13:00,440 while, actually, if you look back, sometimes they used the 1222 01:13:00,440 --> 01:13:05,000 old suit that was falling apart for like, you know, the bits 1223 01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,320 where it needed to get blown up because they didn't want to do 1224 01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,480 it to the nice new suit. And it's the kind of thing that 1225 01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:13,120 most people don't pay a lot of attention to because, like the 1226 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:16,640 underwater scenes here are filmed through, you know, panes 1227 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:19,360 of of water. So you know it's heavily 1228 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:27,960 darkened now one before I get into this next bit that's a 1229 01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:32,000 little bit lengthy about about kind of the the tail end of 1230 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:37,280 history regarding this movie. Now Charlotte, I know you are 1231 01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:41,600 pretty familiar with Akira Kurosawa Atma. 1232 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,760 How familiar are you with director Akira Kurosawa? 1233 01:13:45,790 --> 01:13:50,790 I know the movies. He's directed by reputation, for 1234 01:13:50,790 --> 01:13:52,790 sure, yeah. Yeah, like I and I know like 1235 01:13:52,790 --> 01:13:56,710 stylistically sort of what influence he's had and that sort 1236 01:13:56,710 --> 01:13:59,070 of thing. But I I don't know a lot about. 1237 01:13:59,070 --> 01:14:02,270 It yeah. So Kurosawa, who is broadly 1238 01:14:02,270 --> 01:14:05,790 considered one of history's best filmmakers, I mean the The Seven 1239 01:14:05,790 --> 01:14:10,470 Samurai is widely regarded one of the best films ever made, you 1240 01:14:10,470 --> 01:14:14,370 know, in history. Hiro Kurosawa was actually a 1241 01:14:14,530 --> 01:14:17,890 close personal friend of Ishiro Honda, the original Godzilla 1242 01:14:17,890 --> 01:14:22,010 director. In fact, when Honda retired from 1243 01:14:22,010 --> 01:14:26,410 filmmaking, he would go work as like a second unit director for 1244 01:14:26,410 --> 01:14:31,210 Kurosawa through like the 80s and and early 90s. 1245 01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:37,810 You might also be familiar with actor Toshiro Mifune, who is a 1246 01:14:37,810 --> 01:14:41,450 very famous actor who blew up in. 1247 01:14:42,350 --> 01:14:46,870 Kurosawa's films especially, but then found a lot of success in 1248 01:14:46,870 --> 01:14:49,270 Hollywood, if I remember correctly after the fact. 1249 01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:55,870 And sadly, Kurosawa and Mifune ended up kind of growing apart 1250 01:14:56,430 --> 01:14:59,550 because Mifune would only become like more and more popular and 1251 01:14:59,550 --> 01:15:03,950 in demand as an actor. And Kurosawa, you know, the back 1252 01:15:03,950 --> 01:15:07,630 chunk of his career is not nearly as well regarded as a lot 1253 01:15:07,630 --> 01:15:11,520 of his earlier stuff. So you have like everybody knows 1254 01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,440 the Seven Samurai, everyone knows like the Hidden Fortress, 1255 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,840 right? But just a second. 1256 01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:23,640 But then like very few people have seen or know about like 1257 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:27,070 Mata Dio for example. Yeah. 1258 01:15:27,430 --> 01:15:30,710 And I mean, it's just clear that Kurosawa was very jealous that, 1259 01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:34,590 you know, he and Mifune kind of came up in popularity together. 1260 01:15:34,830 --> 01:15:38,830 And then Mifune would go on to retain a lot of that popularity 1261 01:15:38,830 --> 01:15:42,390 and and and again only find further success while Kurosawa 1262 01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:45,030 kind of went into obscurity later. 1263 01:15:46,390 --> 01:15:49,390 This is kind of important back information for what's coming 1264 01:15:49,390 --> 01:15:53,110 up. So Ishiro Honda visited the set. 1265 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:59,760 During filming sometime late in 1992, I'm not sure if it's the 1266 01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:04,680 thing that he commonly did or if Godzilla versus Martha was like 1267 01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:08,800 a unique situation. I don't read a lot about him 1268 01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:13,760 coming back to the set of like these, hey say movies, you know, 1269 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,960 I mean, he wasn't working on the series anymore, so you know, he 1270 01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,160 didn't really have any obligation to be there. 1271 01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:24,650 But he visited the set in 1992. And it would be one of the last 1272 01:16:24,650 --> 01:16:27,810 things that happened while he was healthy. 1273 01:16:29,010 --> 01:16:33,250 Shortly after visiting the set, Kurosawa was hosting a party for 1274 01:16:33,250 --> 01:16:38,810 the cast and crew of Mata Dio, which would be out in early 93. 1275 01:16:39,690 --> 01:16:42,530 And Honda went home early. Just appeared to be suffering 1276 01:16:42,530 --> 01:16:48,810 from some light cold symptoms, you know, so in the months that 1277 01:16:48,810 --> 01:16:52,540 followed this party. His symptoms would only get 1278 01:16:52,540 --> 01:16:59,140 worse and worse until he was hospitalized, and on February of 1279 01:16:59,140 --> 01:17:04,020 1993, Youshiro Honda sadly died of respiratory failure at the 1280 01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:06,740 age of I believe he was in his early 80s. 1281 01:17:06,980 --> 01:17:11,500 So not a young man, not necessarily a fully surprising 1282 01:17:11,500 --> 01:17:14,900 death, but certainly far too early. 1283 01:17:15,540 --> 01:17:18,020 I mean his his wife would, would survive. 1284 01:17:18,510 --> 01:17:25,670 For another 1520 years past his death at Honda's funeral, Akira 1285 01:17:25,670 --> 01:17:30,470 Kurosawa and Toshi Romi Fune finally reconnected after many, 1286 01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:33,830 many years of separation and silence. 1287 01:17:34,750 --> 01:17:40,550 So Godzilla versus Mothra here in a lot of ways, while while 1288 01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:45,000 being a. True love letter. 1289 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:49,000 I would say to Honda's era of Godzilla. 1290 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:54,920 That first 1015 years of the franchise is also the last thing 1291 01:17:54,920 --> 01:18:00,920 he was even tangentially connected to, which is sad, you 1292 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:03,880 know, I mean, I guess it's we knew this was going to have to 1293 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:06,560 happen at some point, right? That we'd talk about the movie 1294 01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:10,760 where you sure, oh, Honda died. But. 1295 01:18:11,770 --> 01:18:13,850 Yeah, that's heavy to read about that. 1296 01:18:13,850 --> 01:18:17,610 This was, you know, he was on the set here only months before 1297 01:18:17,610 --> 01:18:23,330 his death. So and you know, comes for all 1298 01:18:23,330 --> 01:18:26,770 of us, I guess, but you know, couldn't have, couldn't have 1299 01:18:26,890 --> 01:18:31,370 happened in regards to a movie that was more loving and 1300 01:18:31,370 --> 01:18:36,490 respectful of the work that he did to get, you know, these 1301 01:18:36,490 --> 01:18:40,310 characters off the ground. I know I've brought the entire 1302 01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:45,030 fucking mood down after a really good movie, but like, in a lot 1303 01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:49,750 of ways, isn't that just how it goes, you know? 1304 01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:52,950 Yeah. I mean, you know, we weren't 1305 01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:57,630 expecting to be talking about the death of a G Subraya, you 1306 01:18:57,630 --> 01:19:00,310 know, right at the beginning of Space Amoeba. 1307 01:19:01,190 --> 01:19:05,070 And yet here we are, You know, that's what happens. 1308 01:19:05,070 --> 01:19:07,510 We're talking about decades of filmmaking here and. 1309 01:19:08,040 --> 01:19:12,000 Eventually the legends who got the stuff off the ground, you 1310 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:13,800 know don't make it to the end here. 1311 01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,800 You know as as these characters in these stories change hands, 1312 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,720 you know over many many years and are told in different ways 1313 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:26,120 and you know espouse kind of different versions of of 1314 01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,280 different like expressing different like ideological like 1315 01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:35,240 themes. But excuse me to this point. 1316 01:19:36,380 --> 01:19:39,780 And this is something Charlotte can chime in on more, I think, 1317 01:19:39,780 --> 01:19:42,140 but like. These movies have. 1318 01:19:42,140 --> 01:19:46,260 Stayed very true to a lot of the energy that Honda put in from 1319 01:19:46,260 --> 01:19:51,940 the beginning right of like being environmentalist, of being 1320 01:19:51,940 --> 01:19:55,820 anti nationalist, of being about how you know. 1321 01:19:56,170 --> 01:20:00,210 The the heroes should be academics and scientists and 1322 01:20:00,210 --> 01:20:02,610 journalists, right? Right. 1323 01:20:02,690 --> 01:20:06,570 Villains are always capitalists or imperialists. 1324 01:20:06,970 --> 01:20:13,770 You know that when people commit evil acts, it is an example of 1325 01:20:14,770 --> 01:20:19,370 evil people showing the worst aspects of humankind, Not their 1326 01:20:19,370 --> 01:20:22,090 country, not their background, but. 1327 01:20:23,130 --> 01:20:26,970 When people do the right thing, when people do heroic things or 1328 01:20:26,970 --> 01:20:32,330 show growth, that that is a an example of the best of us, an 1329 01:20:32,330 --> 01:20:38,170 example of what is inside all people, you know that that more 1330 01:20:38,210 --> 01:20:40,770 optimistic view. I've seen people describe 1331 01:20:40,770 --> 01:20:43,730 Godzilla as being about how humans are the real monsters, 1332 01:20:44,170 --> 01:20:49,850 and having seen so many of these Movies Now, I think that's just 1333 01:20:49,850 --> 01:20:52,570 a very shallow read. Because I. 1334 01:20:52,570 --> 01:20:55,330 It's way too humanist for that, I think these movies are, yes, 1335 01:20:55,330 --> 01:20:57,130 they're incredibly humanist. They are in. 1336 01:20:57,370 --> 01:21:02,200 They are about, you know, showing an example of the ways 1337 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,120 we can be better, the ways we can put national borders beside 1338 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:07,960 us. You know, you may argue naively, 1339 01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,080 right? Like it's naive to believe that 1340 01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,720 we could overcome Cold War tensions as easily as was done 1341 01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:17,080 and return of Godzilla. That, you know, the people 1342 01:21:17,320 --> 01:21:21,400 slammed this movie for being naive and and heavyhanded and 1343 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:23,160 its messages about environmentalism. 1344 01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:27,840 But, like, I might argue that it's just being earnest, you 1345 01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:32,820 know, which is a thing. That's in rare supply these days 1346 01:21:32,820 --> 01:21:39,140 is an earnestness for preaching, you know, a message of of hope 1347 01:21:39,180 --> 01:21:41,140 for the future. So. 1348 01:21:41,700 --> 01:21:46,700 Yeah, like sometimes there's a time for subtlety and like 1349 01:21:47,180 --> 01:21:50,820 metaphorical messaging, and sometimes there's a time for 1350 01:21:51,140 --> 01:21:55,580 earnest messaging and and just putting it out there as part of 1351 01:21:55,580 --> 01:21:57,900 it. And like, I feel like this movie 1352 01:21:58,220 --> 01:22:02,970 did a really good job of. The latter of just being, like, 1353 01:22:03,130 --> 01:22:08,930 yeah, this is about, you know, humans having to work together 1354 01:22:08,930 --> 01:22:12,730 to save the environment. And like, that's okay Well. 1355 01:22:12,730 --> 01:22:16,570 And I think especially like, you know, the subject, like, there's 1356 01:22:16,570 --> 01:22:19,650 definitely room to be more subtle when you talk about like 1357 01:22:19,650 --> 01:22:21,770 the subject of nationalism, for example. 1358 01:22:22,170 --> 01:22:24,850 But when you're talking about the environment, you know what's 1359 01:22:24,850 --> 01:22:29,010 not ever going to help is being a cynical doomer about climate 1360 01:22:29,010 --> 01:22:31,850 change. Like, you know, though, the one, 1361 01:22:31,850 --> 01:22:35,490 the one way most guaranteed not to help is to throw your hands 1362 01:22:35,490 --> 01:22:39,050 up and say we can't fucking fix this, Stop, you know, bludging 1363 01:22:39,050 --> 01:22:43,170 me over the head with it. You kind of need to be very 1364 01:22:43,330 --> 01:22:45,810 straightforward, very obvious. You know, you don't have to be 1365 01:22:45,810 --> 01:22:49,850 Captain Planet corny about it. But you know, there's no need 1366 01:22:49,850 --> 01:22:56,510 for subtlety here. So Speaking of cold symptoms 1367 01:22:56,510 --> 01:23:00,790 being the the forewarning of I'm, I'm, I'm proud to announce 1368 01:23:00,790 --> 01:23:04,110 here that I will be dying before we begin Season 4. 1369 01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:09,750 You think I? Could carry this on my own. 1370 01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:15,110 Are you kidding? I joke, I joke. 1371 01:23:16,350 --> 01:23:20,270 I am doing better already. I just have a fucked up throat 1372 01:23:20,270 --> 01:23:23,950 and voice still, so I'm actually feeling better today than I felt 1373 01:23:23,950 --> 01:23:27,470 in days. I think I had whatever you have, 1374 01:23:27,550 --> 01:23:29,590 just a cold. I never even had a fever at any 1375 01:23:29,590 --> 01:23:31,230 point. Honestly, it's just been 1376 01:23:32,350 --> 01:23:34,870 drainage. Sounded like that for like a 1377 01:23:34,910 --> 01:23:35,830 week. Yes. 1378 01:23:35,830 --> 01:23:37,270 Summer cold. So. 1379 01:23:38,550 --> 01:23:42,230 So I do have. I do have two excellent titles, 1380 01:23:42,350 --> 01:23:44,190 by the way, for. This movie? 1381 01:23:44,230 --> 01:23:46,790 Yes. So Taiwan. 1382 01:23:46,790 --> 01:23:48,790 And neither of these are like, funny. 1383 01:23:48,910 --> 01:23:51,230 Well, OK, one of them's great and one of them's funny. 1384 01:23:52,580 --> 01:23:58,500 In Taiwan, the movie was called Butterfly Dragon Mothra which 1385 01:23:59,020 --> 01:24:03,780 fucking ribs like. That sounds like a bad name. 1386 01:24:03,940 --> 01:24:08,420 That sounds like a bad name. Butterfly Dragon. 1387 01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:14,580 Mothra is so sick and I just have to hand it to Taiwan. 1388 01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:19,820 They did good on that one. Russia, Meanwhile, return of the 1389 01:24:19,820 --> 01:24:27,700 dinosaur and Russia see me after. 1390 01:24:27,700 --> 01:24:33,260 Class, you didn't even try. Not all dinosaurs. 1391 01:24:33,260 --> 01:24:35,860 Just one dinosaur, yeah, return of the one dinosaur. 1392 01:24:35,860 --> 01:24:38,540 Don't worry about the moths. It's the dinosaur really that 1393 01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:42,300 it's all about. So very different aspects to 1394 01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:44,460 those titles. Taiwan was like, we know this is 1395 01:24:44,460 --> 01:24:47,900 really a movie about Mothra and Russia was like big lizard. 1396 01:24:49,660 --> 01:24:54,500 So mentioned that this reinvigorated the hey say era, 1397 01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:55,900 right? Like multiple of these movies 1398 01:24:55,900 --> 01:24:59,180 underperformed, but God Silver's and Mothra did really, really 1399 01:24:59,180 --> 01:25:00,820 well. It's cemented that this was 1400 01:25:00,820 --> 01:25:06,740 going to at least get a couple more sequels very specifically. 1401 01:25:06,980 --> 01:25:09,980 It also really reinvigorated interest in Mothra who had not 1402 01:25:09,980 --> 01:25:13,780 appeared in anything in some time. 1403 01:25:13,780 --> 01:25:20,320 Let me double check real quick, but I don't think Mothra 1404 01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,280 appeared since Destroy All Monsters in 68. 1405 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:29,120 Mothra was missing from that entire chunk after Destroy All 1406 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:33,440 Monsters. So you know, despite being who 1407 01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:38,400 we consider one of the biggest names in in Kaiju, you know 1408 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,000 Motha really was absent for a while. 1409 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,800 And this, this revival. And this. 1410 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:47,480 Proof of popularity for Mothra as a character, as well as proof 1411 01:25:47,480 --> 01:25:51,750 that the, you know, these these kind of retooled elements of 1412 01:25:51,750 --> 01:25:55,430 Martha worked really, really well with like families and then 1413 01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:58,990 children especially. Ended up getting the green light 1414 01:25:58,990 --> 01:26:02,190 for Martha to have her own trilogy, which we will cover 1415 01:26:02,470 --> 01:26:06,670 later this season. Charlotte, I'm really excited 1416 01:26:06,670 --> 01:26:10,470 for you to watch those three because God, do I have opinions 1417 01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:14,970 on them. Like positive or just opinions? 1418 01:26:15,010 --> 01:26:22,730 Honestly, we'll we'll get to it. I guess my last questions 1419 01:26:23,650 --> 01:26:26,130 because, like, did the movie have any interesting thematic 1420 01:26:26,130 --> 01:26:27,810 elements? I mean, kind of no. 1421 01:26:27,810 --> 01:26:29,010 Fucking duh, right? Yeah. 1422 01:26:29,610 --> 01:26:34,050 Yeah, you know, this is the movie that that decided to be 1423 01:26:34,210 --> 01:26:36,090 hardcore on the environmental messaging. 1424 01:26:36,090 --> 01:26:38,610 It brought a little bit of elements of like spirituality 1425 01:26:38,610 --> 01:26:42,270 and mysticism back into this era of Godzilla. 1426 01:26:43,430 --> 01:26:46,790 It got flashy in a way that, you know, a lot of the movies before 1427 01:26:46,790 --> 01:26:49,790 hadn't been. I guess my question. 1428 01:26:50,270 --> 01:26:53,270 Oh, sorry, you. It introduced the series first, 1429 01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:57,950 like Scrunco, because like Battra was definitely Battra 1430 01:26:57,950 --> 01:27:02,430 existed to to destroy us for our hubris at one point. 1431 01:27:03,190 --> 01:27:06,310 But, you know, decided to become like an antihero, basically. 1432 01:27:06,470 --> 01:27:08,140 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 1433 01:27:08,140 --> 01:27:10,060 And then also give it to life for us. 1434 01:27:10,420 --> 01:27:12,460 And like once again, I think that's funny because there's a 1435 01:27:12,460 --> 01:27:18,020 lot of of Godzilla fans, right? Who cuz it's I think there's a 1436 01:27:18,020 --> 01:27:19,860 lot of you. I'm not like a gatekeeper on 1437 01:27:19,860 --> 01:27:22,420 this sort of stuff, right? I think there's a lot of fans of 1438 01:27:22,420 --> 01:27:26,340 things who maybe don't engage a lot with like especially older 1439 01:27:26,340 --> 01:27:31,390 primary media, you know? But like there's a lot of fans 1440 01:27:31,390 --> 01:27:33,710 of Godzilla who didn't have access to a lot of the older 1441 01:27:33,710 --> 01:27:35,470 movies. Who saw some of these? 1442 01:27:35,590 --> 01:27:36,950 Who looked a lot of this stuff up? 1443 01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:40,070 Who like you Charlotte, played a lot of video games and probably 1444 01:27:40,150 --> 01:27:45,190 thought Batra was a much bigger part of this franchise and more 1445 01:27:45,190 --> 01:27:48,030 of a permanent part of like Mothra's mythology rather than 1446 01:27:48,030 --> 01:27:51,350 just being part of 1 movie? Right. 1447 01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:55,630 But you know. Does does Batra ever come back 1448 01:27:55,670 --> 01:27:57,550 or was this though I'm sorry, you cut out. 1449 01:27:57,550 --> 01:27:58,310 Can you? Repeat that. 1450 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:02,840 Did Batra ever come back or was this his only appearance? 1451 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,640 This is Batra's only appearance in the films. 1452 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,800 Batra would appear in a bunch of video games because the design's 1453 01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:12,040 super popular. The concept is super popular, 1454 01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:14,760 but yeah, this is the only movie Batra ever appears in. 1455 01:28:15,440 --> 01:28:18,760 It's interesting, but I mean, it's also like one of the 1456 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:21,120 definitive. Like if if somebody wanted to 1457 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:25,920 know Mothra like this is almost the one I would recommend them, 1458 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,460 even over some of the older ones like even though I'd say the 1459 01:28:30,460 --> 01:28:32,860 original Mothra is like one of my favorite movies out of this 1460 01:28:32,860 --> 01:28:35,220 franchise. It has problems. 1461 01:28:35,260 --> 01:28:38,260 So it's hard to, yeah, I mean, you know, again like people in 1462 01:28:38,260 --> 01:28:41,820 brown face, but also like, it's just not accessible in the same 1463 01:28:41,820 --> 01:28:44,940 way, you know? And I think, yeah, it's also a 1464 01:28:44,940 --> 01:28:47,060 matter of like people are more likely to watch something from 1465 01:28:47,060 --> 01:28:50,860 the 90s with like much better special effects work and more 1466 01:28:50,860 --> 01:28:54,740 modern production values than you know, something from the 1467 01:28:54,740 --> 01:28:57,690 50s, so. It's been weird getting back to 1468 01:28:57,690 --> 01:29:00,290 the 90s and being like this is what I'm used to movies looking 1469 01:29:00,290 --> 01:29:01,370 like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1470 01:29:01,530 --> 01:29:04,570 I mean just the the quality of the film, right, the resolution, 1471 01:29:04,570 --> 01:29:08,730 the, you know, better like lighting that we have and set 1472 01:29:08,730 --> 01:29:14,770 design, you know, And like the production quality work on the 1473 01:29:14,810 --> 01:29:19,210 the 80s and 90s series is absurd if you ask me. 1474 01:29:19,250 --> 01:29:22,970 I mean, once again, we talked about this with versus by 1475 01:29:22,970 --> 01:29:27,710 Alante, but look at how good the night battle sequence is at the 1476 01:29:27,750 --> 01:29:31,190 end in the city with Godzilla, Mothra and Batra. 1477 01:29:32,230 --> 01:29:38,470 It's absurd how well you can see every detail despite it very 1478 01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:42,910 clearly being a night sequence. You know, this is actually 1479 01:29:42,910 --> 01:29:45,030 something we hadn't talked about this at all with Atma yet. 1480 01:29:45,430 --> 01:29:52,840 But like Atma, think about how illegible many sequences in the 1481 01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,040 dark are in like, modern Hollywood. 1482 01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,280 And then look at this last fight scene, right? 1483 01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,720 Yeah, yeah, I know. I, you know, I didn't think 1484 01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:02,960 about that until you brought it up. 1485 01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:08,080 But like, gosh, last couple years movies and TV shows, you 1486 01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:12,000 just, you can't see anything if it's a night sequence and it's 1487 01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:15,280 just like, I want to see what's happening and my screen is blue 1488 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:17,320 and black and I just can't see anything. 1489 01:30:17,320 --> 01:30:20,190 And this one like. They just have a brawl at in the 1490 01:30:20,190 --> 01:30:22,870 middle of the night and everything is lit up and 1491 01:30:22,870 --> 01:30:28,190 perfectly sequenced and it's really like well done and God, I 1492 01:30:28,190 --> 01:30:30,790 I wish more movies were done this like this. 1493 01:30:30,790 --> 01:30:34,750 Especially because like as a person who hasn't seen a lot of 1494 01:30:34,750 --> 01:30:38,750 Godzilla of the especially the early ones, you know, like 1495 01:30:39,150 --> 01:30:43,190 Godzilla and and these movies kind of had the the reputation. 1496 01:30:44,010 --> 01:30:47,490 Of like the rubber suits and like the really bad, sort of 1497 01:30:47,490 --> 01:30:50,530 like funny looking fights and stuff like this. 1498 01:30:50,530 --> 01:30:53,890 And I like came away from this one very impressed with what was 1499 01:30:53,890 --> 01:30:56,810 going on. Yeah, I I cannot stress enough, 1500 01:30:56,810 --> 01:31:03,530 like if you have the time, like watch the original Godzilla, the 1501 01:31:03,530 --> 01:31:10,860 1954 film, like into the the 80s and 90s series, because the 1502 01:31:10,860 --> 01:31:14,860 original film is still like in continuity with this rebooted 1503 01:31:14,860 --> 01:31:19,740 timeline. But so far, like this has been 1504 01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:24,380 the most consistently good, high quality stretch of Godzilla that 1505 01:31:24,380 --> 01:31:26,260 we've had. I mean, it's it's insane and 1506 01:31:26,260 --> 01:31:30,140 it's so watchable. It's so good, Really good scifi 1507 01:31:30,140 --> 01:31:33,210 filmmaking. Yeah, I'm like anxious for when 1508 01:31:33,210 --> 01:31:35,530 it's going to fall. I mean, there's look, here's the 1509 01:31:35,530 --> 01:31:37,650 thing, I'm not spoiling anything. 1510 01:31:37,890 --> 01:31:40,530 I know that versus Space Godzilla is a bit of a mess. 1511 01:31:40,530 --> 01:31:43,890 I remember I've seen that movie like 6 times. 1512 01:31:44,130 --> 01:31:48,530 Like, I know that it's fucking stupid that the antagonist is 1513 01:31:48,530 --> 01:31:51,330 called Space Godzilla. Like, I hate to break it to you, 1514 01:31:53,330 --> 01:31:56,530 but like you know, they're not sending their best by this 1515 01:31:56,530 --> 01:31:58,930 point. Listen, I I. 1516 01:31:59,740 --> 01:32:01,780 All I know about space Godzilla is the crystals. 1517 01:32:02,020 --> 01:32:03,900 Godzilla's sick, don't get me wrong. 1518 01:32:04,060 --> 01:32:06,860 But like, I know that one's a mess. 1519 01:32:06,860 --> 01:32:10,980 And then I know Versus Destroyer is one of my favorite, like, 1520 01:32:10,980 --> 01:32:12,900 almost everyone's favorite in the franchise. 1521 01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:18,300 It's so good. So the only question mark is 1522 01:32:18,300 --> 01:32:20,380 this next movie versus Mecca Godzilla. 1523 01:32:20,380 --> 01:32:22,780 Like, I don't remember super well. 1524 01:32:24,380 --> 01:32:27,980 So like, is this going to be a near perfect series with one 1525 01:32:28,790 --> 01:32:33,270 notable myths or are we going to have like a a fullblown 2 movie 1526 01:32:33,270 --> 01:32:34,910 dip in the middle? I don't know. 1527 01:32:34,910 --> 01:32:39,230 We'll find out. I guess my last questions would 1528 01:32:39,230 --> 01:32:44,910 be like, what about this movie do you think sticks with you the 1529 01:32:44,910 --> 01:32:47,470 most? Like, you know, five years from 1530 01:32:47,470 --> 01:32:50,270 now, if this movie comes up, what is it that you think about? 1531 01:32:50,270 --> 01:32:57,170 Let me start with Atma. So like I I am definitely going 1532 01:32:57,170 --> 01:33:01,210 to remember the whole like, environmentalism message. 1533 01:33:01,210 --> 01:33:03,050 Like it's kind of hard to miss that. 1534 01:33:03,370 --> 01:33:08,410 But also again just from coming from a not Godzilla fan, like 1535 01:33:08,490 --> 01:33:12,050 this was a good movie. Like I would just be like, hey, 1536 01:33:12,050 --> 01:33:17,460 you should watch this and. And some of my favorite parts 1537 01:33:17,460 --> 01:33:22,820 like in my brain, I know me and I am going to remember Bachelor 1538 01:33:22,820 --> 01:33:26,020 taking out Godzilla with a Ferris wheel and. 1539 01:33:26,540 --> 01:33:29,500 Yeah. Yeah, and then like the, you 1540 01:33:29,500 --> 01:33:32,340 know. Third person cover shooter fight 1541 01:33:32,420 --> 01:33:35,220 between Godzilla and Mothra in the middle of the ocean. 1542 01:33:35,220 --> 01:33:40,100 Because both of those are like very well done, well filmed 1543 01:33:40,140 --> 01:33:42,860 action sequences and I I love action. 1544 01:33:42,940 --> 01:33:47,260 So like whenever a movie gives me that I'm going to remember it 1545 01:33:47,260 --> 01:33:51,580 And so those things altogether like I I would recommend this 1546 01:33:51,580 --> 01:33:53,620 movie like this is this is a really good movie. 1547 01:33:53,620 --> 01:33:57,460 I enjoyed watching it. Yeah, Charlotte. 1548 01:33:58,340 --> 01:34:01,340 Yeah. I don't know. 1549 01:34:01,340 --> 01:34:04,660 This might sound weird, but I'm just going to remember Mothra 1550 01:34:04,660 --> 01:34:07,820 moving. I don't know like because when 1551 01:34:07,820 --> 01:34:10,220 you watch the original and the way that Mothra moves in that 1552 01:34:10,220 --> 01:34:14,020 movie compared to now this one, and the way that Martha just 1553 01:34:14,020 --> 01:34:17,020 looks so detailed and you can pick out everything on Mothra. 1554 01:34:18,380 --> 01:34:21,420 Big fan of moths. Don't know if everyone knows 1555 01:34:21,420 --> 01:34:22,220 that. But. 1556 01:34:23,780 --> 01:34:27,890 Yeah, so living out in the country, you'd wake up and get 1557 01:34:27,890 --> 01:34:30,530 those gigantic moths on the outside of the the cabin. 1558 01:34:31,330 --> 01:34:33,530 Yeah, yeah. When I was in my car once, there 1559 01:34:33,530 --> 01:34:38,450 was a poodle moth there. Don't know how, but, but yeah, I 1560 01:34:38,450 --> 01:34:40,050 don't know. It's just I'm going to think 1561 01:34:40,050 --> 01:34:42,810 about Mothra. If somebody's like, oh, have you 1562 01:34:42,810 --> 01:34:43,930 seen that? And I'm going to be like, yeah, 1563 01:34:43,930 --> 01:34:45,690 Mothra looks really good in that movie. 1564 01:34:45,690 --> 01:34:47,010 That's what I'm going to say, yeah. 1565 01:34:47,010 --> 01:34:49,050 I mean, I love this 90s redesign. 1566 01:34:49,050 --> 01:34:52,850 The cleaner white, the the extra color pattern on the wings. 1567 01:34:52,850 --> 01:34:57,000 The the red, black, yellow pattern on the wings is so 1568 01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:01,280 iconic. Like in the same way that when I 1569 01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:05,600 close my eyes, it's the it's the 90s Godzilla that I see when I 1570 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:08,920 close my eyes. It is the 90s Mothra that I see 1571 01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,040 over and over again. This is the definitive look for 1572 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,280 her. So yeah. 1573 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:20,880 Yeah, like I I saw the. Whatever the sequel was, I don't 1574 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,880 remember the name of it. Godzilla, King of, not King of 1575 01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:25,960 the monsters with that. King of the Monsters was the the 1576 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,440 second legendary movie. The second, yeah, the second 1577 01:35:28,440 --> 01:35:33,160 legendary movie and like I could not tell you what Mothra looked 1578 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,640 like in that movie and I I know she was in it, but like this 1579 01:35:36,640 --> 01:35:41,880 this design for me, like it's very, very well done and just 1580 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,280 like vibrant and sticks in your brain. 1581 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:49,120 Like, I will definitely think of this version of Mothra. 1582 01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:52,320 Versus the the the legendary version of her. 1583 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,680 Yeah. And like it's super. 1584 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,480 Let me find a picture for you real quick and throw it in the 1585 01:35:57,480 --> 01:36:04,120 in the chat. You know like this is from 1964. 1586 01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:08,480 Like the design is kept very faithful to the original but 1587 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:12,920 they've gone in and really brightened up. 1588 01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:16,500 I mean, it's that clean white, you know, kind of fur like 1589 01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,620 covering and the much more vibrance, you know, in the 1590 01:36:19,980 --> 01:36:22,540 yellows and Reds and oranges in the wing pattern. 1591 01:36:23,420 --> 01:36:27,460 The really bright blue eyes that, yeah, just make this, 1592 01:36:27,660 --> 01:36:32,580 this, like Mothra looks clean, looks pristine, looks sacred in 1593 01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:36,940 a lot of ways that none of the monsters we've seen up to this 1594 01:36:36,940 --> 01:36:39,740 point look like that. They look naturalistic. 1595 01:36:40,020 --> 01:36:44,180 And she looks like something painted, crafted, perfect. 1596 01:36:44,630 --> 01:36:45,710 I don't know. I don't know how to explain it 1597 01:36:45,710 --> 01:36:48,710 beyond that. So yeah. 1598 01:36:48,750 --> 01:36:50,710 Yeah. This this screenshot sure is 1599 01:36:50,710 --> 01:36:55,030 like the 90s are missing a lot of the skunk, but yeah, yeah, 1600 01:36:55,030 --> 01:36:56,110 yeah, yeah, they've they're missing. 1601 01:36:56,110 --> 01:36:58,390 They're missing some of the grunge and the dirt and the dust 1602 01:36:58,390 --> 01:37:01,830 that made a lot of the the 60s movies feel a little real. 1603 01:37:02,270 --> 01:37:06,110 But I mean, at the same time, there's something about the like 1604 01:37:06,110 --> 01:37:09,950 design work and the movement of everything in the 90s and 90s 1605 01:37:09,950 --> 01:37:14,350 that looks so good. And of course it you don't want 1606 01:37:14,350 --> 01:37:17,750 Mothra to have to be dirty. Well, right. 1607 01:37:20,670 --> 01:37:24,070 So does anybody that's. What all the dust is for, right? 1608 01:37:24,070 --> 01:37:26,630 Like it cleans, cleans her off. Yeah, yeah. 1609 01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:29,150 Yeah, like a chinchilla. Maybe I don't. 1610 01:37:29,150 --> 01:37:30,390 Know like a chinchilla. Yeah. 1611 01:37:30,390 --> 01:37:33,070 I don't know. Does anybody have any other 1612 01:37:33,190 --> 01:37:35,310 final takes? No. 1613 01:37:36,110 --> 01:37:40,280 No, I. I thank you for for having me on 1614 01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,040 and having me watch this movie. No, thank you for joining us. 1615 01:37:43,240 --> 01:37:45,920 First off, it's always just fun to like share these movies with 1616 01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:47,440 friends and acquaintances, right? 1617 01:37:47,640 --> 01:37:50,920 Like especially like it's been fun to have Godzilla fans on. 1618 01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:53,600 And it's also been fun to have people who are not, who have not 1619 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:56,000 really seen a lot of these movies because it's kind of 1620 01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:59,560 broken down the myth to a lot of people of oh shit like this is 1621 01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:02,240 what watching Godzilla movies like like these, these can be 1622 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,360 good. These can be different from the 1623 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:08,200 image that I have in my head, instilled by death decades of 1624 01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:11,000 like American pop culture satire of Godzilla. 1625 01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:17,880 Yeah, like, I I can see like, this came out in 92, right? 1626 01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:21,200 Yes. So I would have been seven. 1627 01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:25,400 And I can see if I was 7 and watch this movie, I would become 1628 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,280 a Godzilla fan. Like, like, I could see how that 1629 01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:30,600 would just be like, all right, I got to watch all these Movies 1630 01:38:30,600 --> 01:38:32,240 Now. How could you not? 1631 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:33,280 Yeah. Yeah. 1632 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,590 So that's a wrap on this episode. 1633 01:38:37,830 --> 01:38:39,910 Thank you all so much for joining us on our journey so 1634 01:38:39,910 --> 01:38:41,990 far. Atma, do you have anything you 1635 01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:43,590 feel like plugging for our listeners? 1636 01:38:45,550 --> 01:38:47,990 Normally, here's where I would plug my podcast. 1637 01:38:48,350 --> 01:38:51,510 I do a podcast with my friend. It's called Make Me a Gamer. 1638 01:38:52,270 --> 01:38:56,030 We are currently on hiatus because we've both been having 1639 01:38:56,030 --> 01:39:01,550 computer issues, so there isn't a rough time when we're going to 1640 01:39:01,550 --> 01:39:03,190 be coming back. But we have. 1641 01:39:03,740 --> 01:39:06,460 Nearly 150 episodes already there. 1642 01:39:06,460 --> 01:39:08,140 If you feel like going to listen to that. 1643 01:39:08,780 --> 01:39:11,220 It's a good backlog for people to work through while you guys 1644 01:39:11,220 --> 01:39:14,340 get back up and running again. Yeah, yeah, there's plenty of 1645 01:39:14,340 --> 01:39:17,540 good stuff in there. We're we're a little weird as 1646 01:39:17,620 --> 01:39:20,460 most podcasters are. But yeah, that. 1647 01:39:20,460 --> 01:39:23,140 That's my plug. And again, thank you for for 1648 01:39:23,140 --> 01:39:24,660 having me on. Thank you for being here. 1649 01:39:24,660 --> 01:39:26,420 It was a blast. Yeah. 1650 01:39:26,420 --> 01:39:28,700 Thank you. If you've enjoyed this episode 1651 01:39:28,700 --> 01:39:31,620 of Castle Bravo, please consider rating and reviewing us on your 1652 01:39:31,620 --> 01:39:34,100 podcast app of choice and recommend the show to your 1653 01:39:34,100 --> 01:39:36,580 friends and cohorts to help us beat the whims of the almighty 1654 01:39:36,580 --> 01:39:39,180 algorithms. Especially now that there is not 1655 01:39:39,180 --> 01:39:43,140 a single fucking good social media network to work with. 1656 01:39:44,260 --> 01:39:47,620 God damn it, Blue Sky, you had one fucking job. 1657 01:39:51,980 --> 01:39:55,900 That's all we've got this week. See you next whenever and take 1658 01:39:55,900 --> 01:39:58,900 care of everyone, or at least take better care of yourself 1659 01:39:58,900 --> 01:40:06,500 than I've taken care of myself. Nap Time Castle Bravo is a 1660 01:40:06,500 --> 01:40:09,140 production of Derek Van Dyke and Charlotte Landdale. 1661 01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:12,300 All editing is performed by Derek Van Dyke. 1662 01:40:13,340 --> 01:40:17,900 Special thanks to Curiae Lamont for our art assets and to David 1663 01:40:17,900 --> 01:40:20,460 Van Dyke for our theme song Pools of Memory.