1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,320 Like whatever you were about to say, this man got gassed 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:11,160 unconscious like 6 different times while making this the gas 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,880 they used to make the steam effect. 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:15,880 If it happens once or twice, it's fully on the crew and 5 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,000 stuff. If it happened 6 times, my dude, 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 I think you need to take some responsibility for what's 7 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:36,680 happening. Hello everyone, and welcome to 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,880 Castle Bravo. A Godzilla versus retrospective. 9 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,760 I'm Derek. And I'm Charlotte and we are two 10 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:43,800 siblings here to examine the history of the Godzilla 11 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:47,080 franchise, one movie at a time, for the first time Today, we're 12 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,680 joined by two guests, both returning from previous 13 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,360 episodes. First Godzilla mega fan and 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,800 fellow SDGC host Justin AKA Robo Plato. 15 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,720 Hello I'm very very happy to be back and 2nd podcaster and host 16 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,760 for multiple shows on certain point of view case Aiken. 17 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,320 Hey, I'm so happy to be back as well. 18 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,880 Rising from the the water boiling with Atomic Energy. 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,840 It's so funny because obviously there's there's been this big 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,400 gap in Castle Bravo over the last couple of months. 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Already talked enough about that on social media beginning of 22 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:26,920 last episode, but I was just on one of your shows, Men of Steel, 23 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,400 where we talked about Beast Wars for for quite a while and geeked 24 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,160 out and talked about how Optimus Primal works as a sort of 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,520 Superman analog. Oh hell yeah. 26 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,920 I'll I'll have to I'll have to check that out It's it's a it's 27 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,240 it's a good one when whenever that. 28 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Like, I'm not a big Transformers guy, but I loved Beast Wars, 29 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:44,840 right? Oh, it was. 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,400 Great. And, like, more so than any 31 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,520 version of Optimus Prime, Optimus Primal works. 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,920 Yeah. And like, I was like, OK, well, 33 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,440 you know, I'm getting back into, you know, getting Castle Bravo 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,360 rolling again. So, like, I know I've got you 35 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,440 coming up at some point. I'll let you know. 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,200 Well, of course I, I get off and I look at the actual road map I 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,080 have, and the very next episode is, is this one where you're 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:09,000 coming back? It was like, oh, let me go ahead 39 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,040 and tell him real quick. It's coming again, way sooner 40 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,840 than I thought. Yeah. 41 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,040 Like our sign off conversation was like, Oh yeah, yeah, no, 42 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,200 yeah, just remind me at some point. 43 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Yeah, I'm sure it'll be fine. Cool. 44 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,320 Yeah. And then it's like, oh, this 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:23,640 weekend. Oh, oh, Oh, yeah. 46 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,120 Two days later I would have, I mean, we would have pushed it if 47 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,040 need be. Obviously, I don't want to brush 48 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,960 anyone too, but thankfully the timing worked out for everybody. 49 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,640 How? Let's let's, let's do rounds. 50 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:38,120 Charlotte, how are you doing today? 51 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:42,880 I woke up and like, I can't take a full breath today and I don't 52 00:02:42,920 --> 00:02:45,760 know if the season changing, that's bad, that's bad news. 53 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,960 Yeah. Next episode, we regret to 54 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,480 inform you Charlotte has the Rona. 55 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:57,320 Don't say that I've. Avoided that for years. 56 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,280 I've managed never to get it still, but there's plenty read. 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,120 Yeah, I mean, living here in Kentucky like this has been a 58 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,120 rough season change and the weather keeps going from cold 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,600 back to warm back to cold again. So it's not killing off all of 60 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:15,720 the pollen, it's it's bad times. But other than that, how you 61 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,120 been? Pretty good. 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,120 Like I mentioned in the the pre roll stuff, I'm I'm playing 63 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,520 three different video games right now. 64 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,080 Yeah, of of most note is Midnight Suns, which I'm so glad 65 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,080 you're getting to, because it fucking rules and I know it's 66 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,880 your jam. Yeah yeah, no, I've been liking 67 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,640 it a lot. I'm only in Part 2 somehow. 68 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,360 I don't know how many parts are actually are, but I've been 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,040 playing a very long time because I've been trying to get 70 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,480 everybody like plus versions of their cards and now I can pull 71 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,160 modifiers and stuff. So I've been really min maxing 72 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,320 this. I probably don't need to. 73 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,160 We won't get a midnight Suns 2 and I'm so sad about that. 74 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Why? It just didn't do super well, 75 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,320 apparently. But maybe, maybe it'll have 76 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:02,800 legs. That's good, bad. 77 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:07,160 And like a lot of the like, studio leads got laid off 78 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,560 because of it, Yeah. That's why it's $30.00 at 79 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:15,480 Target, I guess. Yeah, OK, Bustin, How you doing 80 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:17,760 today, bud, Doing. All right. 81 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,360 It's my one day off this week, so I'm just enjoying it, 82 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,000 savoring it, talking about some more folk Godzilla this morning. 83 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,520 Yeah, I I I literally woke up and I went to like the bagel 84 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,840 place around the corner and then, you know, watched the 85 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:34,040 movie this morning while getting bagels. 86 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,680 It's a good way to start your Sunday, Yeah. 87 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:38,240 Oh yeah. Case How you doing today, bud? 88 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,160 Like Justin, I also watched it this morning while having 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,360 breakfast, in this case steak and eggs, because we made way 90 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:48,040 too much steak last night. And it it was, it was a really 91 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,240 nice way to start a Sunday. My mother-in-law was visiting, 92 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:55,600 which is nice. I love my family, but it's. 93 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,320 We we've been on, like best behavior and like had that whole 94 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,880 round of like, well, we got to clean up everything, right? 95 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,320 I've got family coming over. We're doing some family dinner 96 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,080 tonight. So of course I've spent much of 97 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,240 the day like cleaning. I actually just put like a £5 98 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,680 roast on the grill before we started. 99 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:17,880 So yeah, and then like after we're done. 100 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:21,160 I have work to do, but that's OK because in the middle Godzilla. 101 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,680 Yeah, but yeah. All right. 102 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,560 So and bear with me here because as noted, I've had a couple 103 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,320 months off where I've been slightly distracted. 104 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,080 So we're getting back into the Castle Bravo format here. 105 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,160 Let's talk a little bit about where we are right now. 106 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,240 We are at what is effectively the end of the, hey say era. 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,120 So for those of you who haven't been listening along and chose 108 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:55,680 to jump straight into this episode for some reason, the 109 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,800 Godzilla series got effectively rebooted in 1984. 110 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,680 They made this decision that, OK, well, we, you know, had made 111 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,880 movie after movie after movie, you know, for almost 20 years. 112 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:08,400 And they took almost 10 years off. 113 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,600 And then they finally came back and said, OK, we're going to 114 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,960 make a new Godzilla 2. We're going to make a movie that 115 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,240 recognizes only the original Godzilla. 116 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:20,120 And then there was a 30 year gap between 54 to 84 and now he's 117 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,760 back and we're going to make these little darker, little 118 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:28,160 heavier, more modern technology. Most of the movies in this 119 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,440 series have been fucking incredible. 120 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,880 I do think that the general consensus we've had is that 121 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Versus Mechagodzilla 2 was fun, but like light on a lot of the 122 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,240 like heavy themes and like pulp sci-fi tones that were in a lot 123 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,520 of the other movies. And then versus space, Godzilla 124 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:54,480 was just a mess for us. Now, where we're at right now, 125 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:59,840 Toho knows that Sony is trying to get their Godzilla movie off 126 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,200 the ground and they originally wanted to end the series back 127 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,360 with Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla and say cool, here we 128 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,400 go, we're done. Sony and Tristar's Godzilla 129 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,560 movie famously went through several major revisions in 130 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:15,600 development hell. So Toho kept like stretching it 131 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,560 out. But now it's like, OK, they're 132 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:23,080 getting to filming like, you know, Tristars, Godzilla's in 133 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,600 the works. It presumably is going to lead 134 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,080 the way for a whole new American series of Godzilla. 135 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,160 There's some dark foreshadowing here. 136 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,280 So Toho is like, we are going to actually fully commit to ending 137 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,240 this series. So what they did was as they 138 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,600 were putting together the the plan for this movie, which like 139 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 many Godzilla movies went through so many revisions. 140 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,480 I think most famously there was a point where this was going to 141 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:56,760 be Godzilla versus like a ghost Godzilla, like the ghost of the 142 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,200 original Godzilla that died in 1954. 143 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:06,480 And you know, obviously that did not stick around, but the the 144 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:11,000 plan to tie this very heavily to like the legacy of Godzilla and 145 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,160 very heavily to the original film and the fallout of that 146 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:18,680 film did hang around. The marketing campaign was 147 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,640 pretty bold. Toho made it very clear in 148 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,040 marketing. Well, first it was through 149 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,840 hints. They did things like concrete 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,680 over the big pool that they shoot all the water scenes in. 151 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:33,360 Which you would only do if you did not plan on ever shooting 152 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,280 like a Godzilla movie ever again. 153 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,840 They famously had like multiple executives and creatives, like 154 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,159 mentioning out loud like, Oh yeah, I'm going to be moving to 155 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,520 a different company soon. Then they finally were just 156 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,080 outright like putting up posters that say just things like 157 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Godzilla dies. They like, that was what they 158 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,160 sold this upcoming movie on Godzilla versus Destroyer was 159 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,280 Godzilla's going to die. It's going to be over. 160 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,640 They got a pretty good crew on hand for this. 161 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:10,240 So for writing the screenplay, we have Kazukiyomori, who 162 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,800 returns from probably my favorite stretch of the Heisei 163 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,200 era. Omori did the script for Versus 164 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,840 Biolante versus King Ghidorah and versus Mothra. 165 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,840 The director was Tekhao Okawara, who returns from Godzilla versus 166 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,800 Mothra and Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla special effects Koichi 167 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,800 Kawakita, natch. He's been doing it this entire 168 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,800 run of the Hey Say era music by Akira Ifukube Double Match. 169 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,720 The only movie that he didn't sign on for in this era, if you 170 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,080 remember right, was Last One. And it's because we got the 171 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:49,440 Nadeshiko composer. So we basically have the full 172 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:54,000 creative team behind Godzilla versus Mothra, which is probably 173 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,920 my favorite of the Hey Say era so far. 174 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,480 Yeah, and just like, you know, they knew that, hey, we've got 175 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,720 to get the A-Team together. We've got to make this count. 176 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,640 If we're going to build up that Godzilla's going to die in this 177 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:11,800 and we're going to stake our piece here, you know, we want to 178 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:19,440 focus on that, that entire legacy of Godzilla that in mind. 179 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:24,080 Charlotte, why don't you tell us what happens in Godzilla versus 180 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,160 Destroyer? OK. 181 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,840 Well, in Godzilla versus Destroyer, honestly, they just 182 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:33,360 kind of get right into it. Oh yeah, they're right into the 183 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:37,040 fucking mix. Yeah, it starts. 184 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,880 And there's a chopper flying over the ocean looking for signs 185 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,120 of Godzilla. Because Birth Island, Godzilla's 186 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:48,320 home, has sunk into the ocean and they're trying to figure out 187 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,680 like, well, Godzilla's missing, Godzilla. 188 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:52,480 Junior's gone. Like have to figure out what's 189 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,040 going on. This plane tries to take off 190 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,520 from an airport in Hong Kong and Godzilla shows up. 191 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,800 And Godzilla has like the worst case of heartburn imaginable, 192 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:10,480 this whole movie, and is just completely molten inside and 193 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,920 like all of its atomic breaths are like the red The Spiral 194 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:17,080 breath. And then the title card shows up 195 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,600 as Godzilla. It starts rampaging through Hong 196 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Kong. I love the visual effect of the 197 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,320 burning Godzilla suit 'cause yeah, he's got these so cool, 198 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,760 these molten patches that are literally glowing all over its 199 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,760 body and the eyes glow much brighter red than is normal. 200 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,520 And and like, when he's in water, it's just like steam and 201 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,160 so yeah. And like it. 202 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,800 Just like it looks so good with like the lighting and the suit 203 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,800 and everything. It just looks mean and 204 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,600 apocalyptic. Yeah, this the they, they really 205 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:55,720 sell the the heat coming off of Godzilla in this suit. 206 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Yeah, it's also a really good visual distinction from Godzilla 207 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,640 Junior who show up later as pretty close to full size. 208 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,520 And I don't know if we would have been able to tell them 209 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,680 apart easily in most of the scenes if we didn't have this. 210 00:12:08,680 --> 00:12:14,000 Like, very obvious, Like very, very dynamic visual cue, right? 211 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:19,400 I also think it makes Godzilla look like, especially in in the 212 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,880 many night shots that Godzilla's going to show up in. 213 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:26,200 Obviously through the, hey, say era I've been banging on on this 214 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,200 that like, the night shots just look incredible. 215 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:30,800 They know how to light these scenes. 216 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,840 They know how to compose the shots and build the sets in such 217 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,040 a way that, you know, detail does not get washed away in inky 218 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:41,200 blackness. And in a lot of ways, they get 219 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,920 to get away with much darker night scenes in this because 220 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Godzilla's literally glowing, yeah. 221 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:50,160 And it helps, like, with the sort of like the wild card 222 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,440 status of Godzilla, because like, you know that he's going 223 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,040 through some shit right now. And so you're not sure, like, 224 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,760 how bad is this going to get? Like, is he, is he under 225 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:58,960 control? Is, is he? 226 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,640 Like, is he in its own in in his own mind, or its own mind more 227 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,880 so than even usual because it's already dangerous, but now it's 228 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,720 like about to explode and then probably a lot of pain. 229 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,440 Yeah, well in in the last movie, Godzilla versus Space, Godzilla 230 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:15,840 made a big point that Godzilla has basically stopped venturing 231 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,720 out into the, what, you know, the world at large and has been 232 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:21,680 way less of a threat to humanity. 233 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:25,320 So suddenly Godzilla shows up. The island where Godzilla's been 234 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,680 living has basically exploded into the ocean. 235 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,120 The the baby is missing and Godzilla's just wandering 236 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:35,320 through Hong Kong, wrecking it for no reason. 237 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,080 It's a huge change of pace from where things were headed. 238 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,920 So something dramatic has happened. 239 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:46,000 Yeah, so they explained that a fission reaction. 240 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:50,880 Has caused the island to sink. Basically there's like 241 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:52,880 radioactivity across the entire strata. 242 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:57,720 So Godzilla's island has sunk and Godzilla has started to 243 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,600 transform because of that radiation. 244 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:05,280 They all have a meeting and Professor Marvin says that. 245 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,200 I don't know why I wrote down to his D love, Professor Marvin. 246 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:14,440 But he's like. He he's saying that something's 247 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,080 happening inside of Godzilla's heart because he describes 248 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,800 Godzilla's heart as like a fission reaction engine, 249 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,960 basically. And Kenichi, who's the son of 250 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:27,040 Doctor Yamane, who was there with Doctor Sarah Zala, 251 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,520 grandson, sort of because he because he mentions his father 252 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:36,440 was adopted by Doctor Yamane. Yeah, grandson. 253 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,200 And Doctor Yamani was of course, around for the 54 Godzilla that 254 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,440 was. That was handsome Japanese 255 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Colonel Sanders, for those who remember. 256 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:50,360 Right, but Konichi sent a file online. 257 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:53,040 They make a very big deal about the fact that it was online, but 258 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,160 this was like online was new. Yeah, this is 1998, so there was 259 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:03,960 only like 7 websites, yeah. He sent it over, he sent a file 260 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:07,280 over the Internet that basically describes his concept of 261 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Godzilla's condition. And his writings were basically 262 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,280 rejected by most of the people outside of the G force. 263 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,960 But the G force is like, yeah I know that makes sense, They want 264 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,760 to ask him to come and help, but he basically only accepts after 265 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:26,480 he learns that Miki will be there because it's not a hey say 266 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,120 movie without Miki Sagusa. Right. 267 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,720 So can we just have to note the fact that they're like yeah, 268 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,000 some some teen and or like some guy from college just like wrote 269 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,680 a paper on Godzilla. We should, we should talk to 270 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,920 this guy like nowadays. That is just like pure 271 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,760 conspiracy nut like this is how small the Internet was like 272 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,800 that, where that even sounded like a viable right. 273 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,360 Right and. Wasn't he like? 274 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,600 Like a like he didn't get credit for the report or something from 275 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,800 his professor and stuff like like not only is he just like 276 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,680 some student writing this and sending it off, like he is a 277 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:01,880 student that failed because of this project. 278 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,160 It wasn't like a tenured professor doing like a research 279 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:05,920 project. It was a student who got like an 280 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:12,280 F yeah, he mentions like failing all his exams so like something 281 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:15,960 something got him like this is his like hyper fixation and he 282 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:19,320 managed to get this right right enough that he caught the 283 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,040 attention of the authorities at least. 284 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:24,680 Yeah, I mean, his room is just filled with little figurines 285 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,560 and. I love that there's Godzilla 286 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,200 merch like I. Mean. 287 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,120 Like in the real world? Like, obviously there's Godzilla 288 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,640 merch that they can just buy and throw in there. 289 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,880 But it's so funny that they then postulate that in this world, 290 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,560 people just have Godzilla merch, right? 291 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,680 I I want the, like, skeleton one that he had. 292 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,640 Yeah, that was actually sick. Wait. 293 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:46,960 Was there a Godzilla skeleton there? 294 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,680 There was a Stegosaurus at one point that I was like, oh cool. 295 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:53,840 No, the the there's one point where he has two like just like 296 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:57,480 regular looking figures of Godzilla and then like right 297 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,920 next to them there's like a Godzilla Skelp, OK? 298 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,320 It's like shoved up. It's not like. 299 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,119 Yeah, it it it's not huge. Running the Stegosaurus one is 300 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,480 like way bigger and way more prominent in the shot. 301 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,240 When it goes around and also in close up at 1st and so you can't 302 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:13,800 quite tell what's going on and you're like what the. 303 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:22,720 What is that bone thing? Yeah, so on TV, Doctor Ejuin is 304 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,319 discussing this new thing that he's discovered called Micro 305 00:17:26,319 --> 00:17:29,560 Oxygen. And he's talking about all the 306 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,640 ways this can help humanity, because anything that uses 307 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,320 oxygen can take up a lot less space now because they have 308 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,960 Micro Oxygen. But he's also saying because the 309 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,600 the person interviewing him was like, what about the dark side 310 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,520 of micro oxygen? And he's like, well, I guess it 311 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,400 could be used to bore through any metal and could be used as a 312 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,520 weapon, but humanity would never do that. 313 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,080 That would never happen. Things that are true. 314 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,440 You know, there there's a historical period. 315 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,760 So World War One specifically with the what, what is it? 316 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,360 The nitrogen enriched soil, like being being able to create 317 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:08,200 fertilizer is one of the reasons why World War One was able to 318 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,480 continue going as long as it did. 319 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,280 Because otherwise we're just going to run out of food, yeah. 320 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,600 Yeah. I remember I, I I really do like 321 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,520 the journalists comment like I like your scientists optimism 322 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,800 like like when when when he says that like that's such a perfect 323 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,640 way of saying like. Yeah, no. 324 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:31,400 You thought about this more than anybody else would and came to a 325 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,800 conclusion that nobody else would, right? 326 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,160 So Miki is looking for Godzilla Junior, who at this point 327 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,080 they're calling little Godzilla. They don't call him Junior till 328 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,360 later, but she can't find he's. Upgraded from from from little, 329 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,360 Yeah, a year ago. He was a little green lawn. 330 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:54,520 No. So. 331 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,120 Right. But also, he's not really the 332 00:18:57,120 --> 00:19:00,400 junior, he's the third I I I suppose. 333 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,720 Well, so here's the question, because I guess we never really 334 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:07,320 know the relation of the second Godzilla 2 the first, right? 335 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,800 Like. Oh, it could be like a Mongol 336 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,600 situation from DC Comics where it's actually the 17th of his 337 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,240 name, but we just didn't see the the like 15 in between. 338 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:16,320 Yeah, we don't. We don't. 339 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,120 And to be fair, like even even Godzilla Junior is not actually 340 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:23,400 the second Godzilla's child. It's an it's a different egg 341 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,520 that they found. So it's it's all a look Family's 342 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,800 weird. Yeah, I'm just kind of call him 343 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:37,800 Tripper and we'll go. But little Godzilla is, like, 344 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,640 completely missing. Miki can't find him. 345 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:44,200 Kenichi, who who is there now, is like, well, maybe he's dead, 346 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,280 which Miki does not appreciate. But that's just the kind of 347 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:52,760 person Kenichi is. Yukari, who's the woman that was 348 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,920 interviewing Dr. Ijiwi and is Kenichi's sister. 349 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Gets a call from her aunt's house and they discuss how Micro 350 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Oxygen is way too similar to Doctor Sarah Zawa's Oxygen 351 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,560 Destroyer. And she's like really worried 352 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:13,760 about this, but she should be. So Yukari goes and talks to 353 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,680 Doctor Rejuven about it again and he's like, I'm not going to 354 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,840 recreate the Oxygen Destroyer because that, like I'm I'm just 355 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,160 not that kind of person. I'm not going to do it. 356 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,000 But he does mention like. It could be done, I could, but I 357 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:31,160 won't. Not ominous things to say, yeah. 358 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,480 So now there are a bunch of accidents happening in mining 359 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,240 tunnels near that same strata with the increased radiation. 360 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,920 Like there's just shafts that are just completely melting at 361 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,480 this point. So Doctor Rijuwin goes there to 362 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,360 investigate that Godzilla is visibly traveling off the coast 363 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:55,920 of Taiwan and is experiencing more fission now than its body 364 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:01,080 can handle. And Konichi says, basically, if 365 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:05,480 this keeps going, he's going to explode and it's going to 366 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:08,400 release more nuclear energy than all the weapons on Earth, and it 367 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,240 will ignite all the air on the planet. 368 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,080 Yeah, if if Godzilla explodes, it's literally going to light 369 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:19,040 the air on fire. And then it cuts to an amazing, 370 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:24,880 like CG graphic of it happening. 1995 simulation model. 371 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,200 Yeah, like putting that that shot in is so insane cause like 372 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:34,240 they never say that it's like a simulation or like this, like it 373 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,360 just cuts to it as if it's happening currently and then 374 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:39,920 cuts back to their conversation. Yeah. 375 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,320 So Doctor Ejuine is going to investigate these tunnels, and 376 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,200 he does that to get soil samples. 377 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,840 And he and Yukari talk on the boat back about how 200 or 2.5 378 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,240 billion years ago, there was no oxygen. 379 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,600 So they they bring that up because you basically need more 380 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,200 oxygen to create more life, you know. 381 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,520 But there are signs of life in this soil that he found. 382 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:12,400 And so Kinichi then says when they're trying to discuss how to 383 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,000 to help Godzilla, that they basically need another Oxygen 384 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,320 Destroyer because it's the only thing that they know will kill 385 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,200 Godzilla. But again, his aunt is like, I 386 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,160 don't think we should do that. And that doesn't seem like a 387 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:25,760 good thing to. Do. 388 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:31,120 By the way, the aunt is Amiko Yamane from the original movie. 389 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,440 Yeah, in fact, played by the same actress who played her all 390 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:41,240 the way back in 1954. So that was, that was, for those 391 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,360 who may not remember one of the main characters. 392 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:47,800 She was Doctor Sarah. Zaw was kind of estranged fiance 393 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,840 and Doctor Yamane's daughter, but right. 394 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,400 So Kinichi tells Yukari about Godzilla's pending explosion, 395 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,360 and she goes, OK, well, I'll go talk to the doctor about what we 396 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,800 can do, maybe about making that weapon again. 397 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,040 First, first you asked me not to make it, and then you asked me 398 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:10,280 to make it. What the fuck's up? 399 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,080 Right, then they go to Shinigawa Aquarium. 400 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:19,840 They don't name it, but it does say that outside, and a security 401 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,840 guard witnesses these fish just dissolving in the water, which 402 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,640 looks very familiar. Oh my God, this sequence. 403 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:31,080 This sequence is one of my favorite sequences. 404 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320 I think one of the most memorable sequences in the 405 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,840 franchise to me. It's it's so good. 406 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,480 Just the security guard walking around with the flashlight and 407 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,920 and the the the gentle glow from all the aquarium tanks. 408 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,400 Him going through the you know the reverse like aquarium tube. 409 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,240 Yeah. And then watching the fish like 410 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,240 crackle and slowly dissolve. And then him looking into the 411 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,880 next tank and there's just dozens of fish skeletons falling 412 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,480 and piling up on the bottom of the aquarium God. 413 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,560 Damn, they were cooking. Yeah, like it. 414 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,400 It's it's such a good scene and like you don't really get the 415 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:17,320 unsuspecting random person sees something in a Kaiju movie very 416 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,120 often. Like like especially on this 417 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:21,560 scale. Like that's one thing I really 418 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,320 like about how, you know, they utilize like the build up to 419 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,400 destroy it. Like you get a lot of really 420 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,560 small scale stuff, getting a lot of like horror and creature 421 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,120 feature stuff. That just usually just doesn't 422 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,280 fit into a Kaiju, yeah. Because none of it's on human 423 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:42,480 scale, but in a in a funny way, this kind of reminds me of how a 424 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,760 lot of the early parts of Godzilla versus Hedorah were 425 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,840 very human centric in this same way. 426 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,600 And of course it's because likewise that was a a creature 427 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,640 that started very, very small before growing up into something 428 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:59,680 Godzilla sized as a threat. Obviously this movie's much 429 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,240 better, but. Fewer drugs were taken during 430 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:09,200 the creation of this movie. So Yukari, Kinichi and Dr. E 431 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,560 Jouin discuss the dangers of the Oxygen Destroyer, and then they 432 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,120 get that call about the aquarium and they take the video. 433 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,360 And this this scene is funny to me because they take the video 434 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:22,560 back to the lab because they're like, oh, we got to figure. 435 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,640 Out. Oh, they law and order this 436 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,440 shit. They law and order it. 437 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,680 They like take it, take a crop of an area of the screen and 438 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:32,640 they go all right, 3D scan and it like generates a 3D image 439 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,360 from like a really and. Like retextures it and like then 440 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:38,640 they examine all angles of it of a. 441 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,520 Microscopic creature, by the way. 442 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,600 The Doctor theorizes that the the creatures that came from the 443 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,640 soil layer they're researching may have or may have mutated 444 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,600 into these little things because they use the Oxygen Destroyer 445 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,640 the first time. Yeah, I so I have a thing about 446 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,360 this one. They say it's pre Cambrian, 447 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,800 which at the time they I don't think they actually would know 448 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,680 about the specific like weird like the Cambrian explosions, 449 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,520 like the big like the the big diversification of like on the 450 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,880 biological timetable like a lot of animal families that would 451 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,520 would come out, but there was a small one just prior to it 452 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680 called the Ediacran period. Which is fascinating because 453 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,920 there's all these, like, false starts to life and have 454 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760 completely different body plans to what we are familiar with, 455 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,440 including trilateral symmetry. So, like, the thing that we're 456 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,400 seeing here is interesting and weird, but it's actually almost 457 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,120 not weird enough. Oh, OK. 458 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,080 But as it is, it kind of just looks like a sea scorpion but 459 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,640 like, which would have been kind of dope too. 460 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,480 Yeah, but that's like a. That's that's the main thing. 461 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,600 Yeah. It's like a chunky little thing. 462 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,800 It's a crab sea scorpion. Yeah, everything evolves into 463 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:54,720 crab. Yes, cronization. 464 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,560 Damn it. Everything must become crab. 465 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:04,320 We will become crab. Godzilla is heading to Okinawa 466 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,560 now, and I don't remember if this went anywhere, or maybe I 467 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,440 just missed it, But Miki's trying to find a connection 468 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,280 between like the dead whales showing up and Godzilla and 469 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,760 little Godzilla's disappearance. I I I I don't know that it's 470 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:23,200 really made very explicit my I was taking it as well. 471 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,840 Look, if a bunch of fucking whales are dying and it's not 472 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,160 Godzilla, could it be little Godzilla? 473 00:27:29,120 --> 00:27:32,960 Like, you know, could could this be signs that he was here and 474 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,160 ate? Yeah, I get. 475 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,760 But yeah, they're not super explicit on that, Mark, yeah. 476 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,640 Yeah, it it never comes up again. 477 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,880 I just assumed it was just. That little guy was chomping. 478 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,200 Yeah, I'm just used to weirder things happening. 479 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Yeah, in these movies. Then just. 480 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,440 Whales died, yeah. Yeah, that, yeah, it's it's 481 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:57,600 like, it's it's a bizarrely like normal thing when you're trying 482 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,040 to track an animal down and like, oh, there's signs that it 483 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,480 fed at some point compared to, well, guess what there's a huge 484 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080 radioactive. We trace the fucking beta 485 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,840 radiation levels off of yeah, yeah. 486 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,840 So now there's these giant bug like creatures that are running 487 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,640 through the city. The police, the media, the 488 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,640 medical teams are all surrounding like this building 489 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,520 that they that they found that the creatures are nesting in and 490 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,920 they move in to kill them, but most of them end up getting 491 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,840 killed by these like electric wormhole attacks. 492 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,840 Yeah, it's the best way I could describe it. 493 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:35,880 So First off, I love that the movie Aliens exists. 494 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:41,920 Yeah, yeah, like this entire scene is just like the the, you 495 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:43,440 know, reactor scene at the beginning of Aliens. 496 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,760 They even have like the backpack mounted auto guns with. 497 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Motion trackers, yeah. And flamethrowers. 498 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,800 One of the one of the destroyers at one point will like open its 499 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,320 mouth up and shoot out the little little inner mouth that 500 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,560 the aliens famously have like very clearly. 501 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,560 So I was watching it this morning with. 502 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,720 My seven month old daughter and she was clutching her plush 503 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,840 Godzilla toy because it's one of her two favorite toys alongside 504 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,520 a Texas Chainsaw Massacre leather face plush. 505 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,920 That's going to be fun to unwrap in, you know, another 10 years. 506 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,240 Really funny videos at the moment, especially when we give 507 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,520 her any kind of like red, like soft, like not soft, but like 508 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,920 the red baby food. Yeah, she just like, she's like, 509 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,640 she's covered in blood and holding a Texas Chainsaw 510 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Massacre was not intentional for Halloween yet. 511 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,920 It was the best Halloween pictures. 512 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,360 But we're watching it with my mother-in-law, my wife, my 513 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,000 sister-in-law, and the baby and I say out loud after the the 514 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,600 motion tracker shot, I'm like, they are clearly huge fans of 515 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,160 James Cameron. There's so much alien stuff. 516 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,480 And then the exact shot of the mouth opening up. 517 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080 Popped up and I was like, what? All right, well, I gotta make a 518 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,400 comment about this in our chat. Yeah. 519 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,440 Yeah, I think you were watching it at the same exact time I was 520 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,200 because I was just past that scene when you posted it. 521 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,480 Big Jim Supremacy. Respected in this House. 522 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,880 I do love too, yeah. They have this weird like breath 523 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,800 attack and the way that they portray, it's kind of funny 524 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,080 because they like will breathe and it'll hit and it'll make 525 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,320 like a weird spirally effect on them and then like it looks. 526 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,640 Like it's going to be like a black hole and then it sends. 527 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:20,280 Them flying but like I love too. You very clearly see as it does 528 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:23,200 that in most of the shots. Like you see that the IT 529 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600 penetrates through and comes out the back. 530 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,960 You know, because they're trying to in in as creative a way as 531 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,440 they can sell the idea that this breath weapon. 532 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,720 Has specifically like penetrating power, right? 533 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,400 And bullets don't seem to work very well in the creatures, but. 534 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,920 Yeah, one dudes like unloading A handgun to like inches from this 535 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,560 thing's face and it's just kind of pissing it off. 536 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,800 Yeah, like prolonged use of a flamethrower does work after a 537 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,600 while, but they do manage to blow one up with a rocket 538 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,960 launcher. Great shot, because it's there. 539 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,280 And then the rocket explodes. And then there's just confetti. 540 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,880 Yeah. So Doctor Yujuan arrives and 541 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,000 says that everybody should probably just stop firing their 542 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,040 weapons at the monster. And one of them emerges from the 543 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,800 buildings and like, goes right after all the media crews. 544 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,080 And Yukari hides in this car. And she like it's a, it's a cop 545 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:24,160 car and she's found by one of the monsters which attempts to 546 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,920 destroy the car like you can't get in. 547 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,080 So it's like like smashing the top of the. 548 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,440 Car flips it twice. Yeah, she tries to get that. 549 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,080 Scene also kind of reminded me like on top of like the aliens 550 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:37,880 references. Like it kind of also reminded me 551 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,640 of like the T Rex scene and Jurassic. 552 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,840 Yeah, over. The Jeep and everything, Yeah, 553 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:47,120 she tries to get the car to start, but she can't get any 554 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,640 traction with it. And then the monster like pushes 555 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,080 out its little second Xenomorph mouth, tries to to claw at her 556 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:59,160 with it, eventually just ends up blasting the the entire car in 557 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:03,000 half with a laser. But the Doctor shows up, pulls 558 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,600 her out just in time, and they run away. 559 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,440 And Godzilla, meanwhile, is going for a power plant and the 560 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,280 G Force decides to launch the Super X3 to deal with it. 561 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,280 So good that they had this thing waiting. 562 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Yeah, the X3 has cryogenic and cadmium weapons because they've 563 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,120 they've used cadmium in the past and it's piloted by show who's 564 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,440 the same guy from Godzilla versus Violante. 565 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,760 Yeah, there's a lot of characters in this movie, small 566 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,560 characters who were coming back from earlier. 567 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,120 Hey say films. The the guy, the representative 568 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,680 from G Force is the same guy who's was in least one other 569 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,920 movie. The dude with the glasses and 570 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,800 the the tall hair. And then one of the, like, 571 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,200 generals is returning from, I want to say, Godzilla versus 572 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Mothra, but I think that's right. 573 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,920 Yeah, it's it's the dude who's like, you want us to sit here 574 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,040 and do nothing. That guy's the same actor, same 575 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,000 character. So they're bringing back a lot 576 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,280 of these small characters from throughout the, hey say era. 577 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Plus, you know, the Yamane family and then Miki Sagusa, 578 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,320 obviously, because she's right, the mascot of this era, I feel 579 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,400 like. Yeah, kind of doing that victory 580 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,440 lap before the finale. Yeah, yeah. 581 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:27,080 So the X3 heads off to to to hit Godzilla while it's still in the 582 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,880 water, trying to get it before it gets on land. 583 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,240 They fire the cryo weapons at Godzilla, and then once it's 584 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,160 frozen, they they start firing cadmium weapons into Godzilla's 585 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,840 mouth, and Godzilla's like completely frozen over. 586 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:45,160 At this point they fire one last big laser at it, knocking him 587 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,280 into the water, and show is like, all right, well, 588 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,800 Godzilla's going to stay frozen for like 6 hours, so you better 589 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,920 figure this out in six hours. Because we're going to be right 590 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,640 back here once that's done, potentially right. 591 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:03,040 The fission reactions in Godzilla have slowed down from 592 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:04,960 the attack, but they're they're still inevitable. 593 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:09,760 Like it's still going to happen. The SDF gets deployed to deal 594 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,880 with the the bug creatures, and testing indicates that they can 595 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,400 use cryogenic weapons on the bug features too because it destroys 596 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,719 the micro oxygen inside of them, and so they're going to go that 597 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:24,600 route instead. So, like, extreme, extreme 598 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,280 temperatures can sort of work, and that's about what we've got 599 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:33,159 right? Miki is lamenting the fact that 600 00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:37,120 her powers seem like they're weakening, and she seems like 601 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,239 the only person that has that opinion about those powers. 602 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,679 But. Because yeah, there's the other 603 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,760 girl who's like, I can't wait to be a normal, normal girl and not 604 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,719 have psychic powers anymore. Yeah, she's like, I want to go 605 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,080 get married. I don't want to have psychic 606 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:50,760 powers. Yeah. 607 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,040 Can I also? I don't know how that foregoes 608 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,280 though. This is also the only mention of 609 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,120 these powers in the entire movie. 610 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,160 Nobody ever uses them or mentions them ever again. 611 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,320 It's just Mickey using them to like. 612 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,560 Try to track Godzilla Junior. And I also say. 613 00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,040 Guide Godzilla Junior at a later point and then the like. 614 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,440 When Godzilla Junior dies, there's like a big emotional 615 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,160 thing, which I think is part because the psychic connection. 616 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:23,600 Yeah, also the the the nerve energy is incredibly strong with 617 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,440 G force in this movie and like Mickey in particular has got 618 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,800 like a a a haircut and like a wardrobe change in such a way 619 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,720 that is really. Again, giving big, like 620 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:39,840 Evangelion vibes, but once again, two whole years before 621 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,840 the 1st episode airs, you know? But yeah, it's, it's, it's 622 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,840 definitely, I had to stop and like check and be like, OK, 623 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,000 surely now Evangelion has come out and we're taking reference 624 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:53,360 from it. No, still no. 625 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,040 OK, well, the other one that's in the helicopter, Meru, she 626 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,680 just like straight up has Masato's hat. 627 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Yeah, so, so little Godzilla finally shows up. 628 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,760 He emerges on a beach, and he's a lot bigger now because of the 629 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:11,560 radiation. So now they're like, well, it's 630 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,440 not little Godzilla. That's Godzilla Junior. 631 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,440 Now I love. The design they have for 632 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,640 Godzilla Junior because he he he does look like an awkward 633 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,480 teenager. Godzilla, yeah, like, yeah, he 634 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,280 doesn't have the full spines. His like neck's a little bit 635 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,040 longer and he's kind of spindly. Yeah, he's he's that awkward 636 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200 teenage era, yeah. He hasn't filled out. 637 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,320 It's it's that lanky teen stage, but like. 638 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,880 When you're like 1718, you've hit your height, but you haven't 639 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,120 hit your width yet. Yeah, his head is a little bit 640 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,600 like shorter proportionally than Godzilla's, right. 641 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,400 If you're talking like jaw to top of like Skull Dome, it's a 642 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,640 little bit like flatter and longer looking. 643 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,200 So you can see where there's like, oh, there's even like some 644 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,040 variation, you know, between members of the same species. 645 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,160 They're not just trying to make small Godzilla love these 646 00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:03,280 details. Yeah, Godzilla seems to be 647 00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,920 headed towards Junior and Junior's headed towards the 648 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,720 Bering Sea because that's where they're from. 649 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:13,040 But unfortunately, Godzilla's vision has completely restarted 650 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,200 and they are headed towards meltdown at this point. 651 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,600 And they they re examine what the meltdown would mean. 652 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,480 And they're saying now that if this if a meltdown occurs, there 653 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,880 will be a hydrogen explosion that bores its way through the 654 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,600 Earth. And we have about a week before 655 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:29,320 that happens. Yeah. 656 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,080 So they mention China syndrome. Are any of you familiar with 657 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,480 what that is? No. 658 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:44,800 OK, so a famous example of this would be, I believe, Chernobyl 659 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,600 itself. When the reactor melted down, 660 00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:54,120 the like molten hot core of the reactor was so hot and so dense 661 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,040 that it basically just melted its way through several floors 662 00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,000 before. You know, finally, like cooling 663 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,560 off enough that it, like, stopped going down. 664 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,280 And now there is this, this thing called the Elephant's 665 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640 Foot. It's the remains of the original 666 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,320 reactor. It's so radioactive that if you 667 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,960 were to get close enough to it, you would basically be killed 668 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:19,680 instantly from the radioactive output. 669 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,160 China syndrome was a theory that a particularly bad meltdown from 670 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,560 a particularly large reactor. It could be hot enough and dense 671 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,600 enough that it would basically keep melting its way down until 672 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:38,040 it hit the core of the Earth. Basically just melting a hole 673 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,200 all the way down to the center of the Earth. 674 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,760 And they thought maybe out the other side to China, which is 675 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,480 why it's called China Syndrome. Obviously, that's stupid. 676 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,600 That's not how it would work. But like what? 677 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,680 You know, people were stupid at the the people are still stupid 678 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,160 to be fair. But yeah, so the it's it's so 679 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,080 much worse. Godzilla won't just blow up and 680 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,000 potentially ignite the atmosphere. 681 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,240 Godzilla will meltdown into the core of the earth potentially 682 00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:07,200 destroying the planet itself so that no life could ever like 683 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,000 there'd be no planet for life to re thrive on. 684 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,880 It's a pretty pretty it's a it's a it's a step up in terms of the 685 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,640 apocalypse scale for sure. Yeah, it's but shit's bad. 686 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,080 So they have outfitted laser tanks with some some like cryo 687 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,640 weaponry and everything and they were redeployed to fight the 688 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,360 bugs. There are now a lot of bugs, 689 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:37,680 like a lot. Temporarily they form into one 690 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,720 giant monster though to to fend off the tanks like a huge bug. 691 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,120 Doctor Ijuwin says that power that that monster has the same 692 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:50,560 power as the Oxygen Destroyer, and so they call it Destroyer 693 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,560 because it's like Destroyer. That was kind of a leap for me 694 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,080 in terms of like, oh, it's power. 695 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,560 Is that like it it's not even like, well, Godzilla is actually 696 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,000 atomic. It it like just it was like, Oh 697 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:06,520 no, it's just a really capable, like flexible bug situation. 698 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:07,920 Thing. I mean, I assume they call it 699 00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,440 that just cause of the link to the oxygen destroyer, right? 700 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,400 That was. Yeah, that was kind of what I 701 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,040 thought. Yeah, but that that's like 702 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,920 saying that I have the same power as the pizza. 703 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,360 You do though. That's why they call me. 704 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,800 I for one, I for one, embrace your pizza powers. 705 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:33,120 So Konichi's like, why don't we just have Destroyer fight 706 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,640 Godzilla, since it has the power of the Oxygen Destroyer as you 707 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,240 say, because they would they would just neutralize each 708 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,080 other. Everyone in the room doesn't 709 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,200 really take kindly to that conceptually. 710 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,360 But like, it is basically what has to happen. 711 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,920 You know, and what's so crazy is and I this is not lost on me 712 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,640 like as I'm watching the movie that we are now in the rare 713 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:06,600 situation of Godzilla is straight up undeniably the bad 714 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,400 guy of this movie. Even more than the the Crab 715 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,400 Devil monster called Destroyer, who is actually the thing that 716 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,560 we need to beat Godzilla if we want any chance of survival? 717 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,160 It's to the point that when they did the poster, the original 718 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,800 poster for this movie, so all through the hey say era, they've 719 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,080 had like Godzilla in the foreground with some giant 720 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,720 monster looming behind him. Violante, you know, King 721 00:41:30,720 --> 00:41:33,880 Ghidorah wrapping its heads around Godzilla, Mothra flying 722 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,800 up from the background, etcetera, you know, Mecha, 723 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,000 Godzilla, Space Godzilla looming in the background. 724 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,520 The poster for this movie has Godzilla burning, Godzilla 725 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,760 looming in the background at a smaller destroyer in the 726 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,320 foreground. So like a role reversal on the 727 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,480 poster, it's just a a nice touch. 728 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,360 So the plan now is to try to modify Junior's trajectory so 729 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,640 that they can draw the monster. Yeah, because they're like, 730 00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:01,280 well, I guess it does have to happen. 731 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,760 And how does that plan work to use powers? 732 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,000 You use the baby as bait. Right. 733 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,680 They're going to draw the the monster to Tokyo. 734 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,400 Like they're going to do all this in Tokyo. 735 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,160 So they call for an evacuation of Tokyo. 736 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,360 Destroyer is like destroying buildings from the skies. 737 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:24,600 Now that this bug thing can fly and being compelled by the 738 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,280 psychics, Junior walks into the city too. 739 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:34,040 Junior meets with Destroyer, is immediately knocked over, has a 740 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:39,640 building thrown on him, and Destroyer starts heading 741 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,840 directly for for the helicopter with Mickey in it. 742 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,720 But Junior manages to get up just in time to forcibly ground 743 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,160 destroy it with a beam. I love the effect on Junior's 744 00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,080 breath weapon by the way. It's a lot more dynamic than 745 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,120 even Godzilla's used to be. Pre burning form. 746 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,240 It's very sparkly. Yeah. 747 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,040 Yeah, I also really like that. Like, Tripper is way in over his 748 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,760 head this whole time. Like they? 749 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,280 There's a spot where he gets like thrown against a building 750 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,320 and like the building collapsing on him is like very clearly like 751 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,960 a big hit for him and just not as used to like taking these 752 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,720 blows and like that. The collateral damage is an 753 00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:20,080 impact in this fight in a way that, like Godzilla, kind of 754 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,040 just shakes it off. Yeah, yeah. 755 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:24,960 Godzilla gets his ass beat all the time and just keeps moving. 756 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,440 But Junior has not had to deal with this meaningfully before 757 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,160 now. But God, he's he's he's holding 758 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,320 his own for being a little guy. But. 759 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,640 Yeah, he's he's getting his ass whooped. 760 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,440 It's it's to the point where Junior's like bleeding on the 761 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,600 ground, not doing well does he gets like a hole? 762 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,520 Yeah, destroy it. Does the alien mouth thing into 763 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,920 his chest and like pumps micro oxygen into him or something. 764 00:43:51,240 --> 00:43:55,520 And it's so graphic. It's like, oh God, he bursts 765 00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,920 like a balloon. And that scene is like one of 766 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,120 the more intense ones too. Because like also when like 767 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,000 Godzilla Junior uses breath, you know, takes off some of the like 768 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:10,400 claws on destroying, like green goo blasts everywhere, and then 769 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,480 he gets bored into and is actually like bleeding. 770 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,920 Which like like like that fight feels like a real struggle, even 771 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,120 though they're both just kind of laying in one spot. 772 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,280 Like it really feels like they're they're both just going 773 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,720 for it. I I wonder. 774 00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:29,800 Hmm. On. 775 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:30,680 OK, hang on. I got, I got. 776 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,560 I want to compare a thing real quick. 777 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,720 Because I might be on to something here. 778 00:44:37,240 --> 00:44:40,080 Let me see, let me see. December. 779 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,160 It could be they. They could have had enough time. 780 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:48,960 So we have not talked about Gamera, like, at all, 781 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,760 meaningfully on this podcast. It's a thing I've mostly been 782 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,360 holding, like hoping to hold out on talking about until much, 783 00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,720 much later. The first, hey, say, Gamera 784 00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:03,200 movie. Gamma Guarding the Universe 785 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,200 released like six months before this one did. 786 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:12,040 Now the Gamma movies have mostly been garbage to this point. 787 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,400 Their their big like thing is that there's more shock value, 788 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,000 they are more violent, there's a lot more blood exploding 789 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,040 everywhere, etcetera. Gamma guarding the universe is 790 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,320 good. Like the hey say like 90s. 791 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,400 Gamma Trilogy is generally considered better than even most 792 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,280 Godzilla movies at the same thing. 793 00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,800 I am wondering if that first Gamma movie releasing because 794 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,240 these movies have pretty short production time periods, you 795 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,400 know and the the increased like violence in that might have 796 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:45,640 inspired, you know they're making a grimmer Godzilla movie 797 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,800 in the 1st place. Yeah, that's that. 798 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,760 That's a thing I'll have to put a pin in and we'll come back to, 799 00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:56,640 you know, if we ever get around to to touching on Gamma in more 800 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,760 detail, but. Away from the turtle, Back to 801 00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,000 Godzilla. Back to God, Godzilla is closing 802 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,720 in. Well, this is happening by the 803 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,880 way. Godzilla's on the way. 804 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:15,480 So little Godzilla launches destroyer into a building and 805 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,680 the Godzilla's start calling out for each other and. 806 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,760 Walk up to each other and it seems like they're having a good 807 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,360 conversation, but then destroyer like evolves again into a a 808 00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,640 bigger, more human. To the God damn devil. 809 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:34,640 Yeah. And interrupt them is so. 810 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:40,000 God, it rips. Just the enormous wings coming 811 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,720 out of just a pillar of fire, like. 812 00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,040 Satan crab Satan has arrived, motherfuckers. 813 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,800 Everything must become crab, including the devil. 814 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,800 So now that all this fighting's going on, Godzilla is rapidly 815 00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,560 heating up. Doctor Ejuin puts in a call and 816 00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,040 is like, OK, the X3 needs to come back out here because we 817 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:05,880 need to prevent Godzilla from from so. 818 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:09,480 Like once he hits 1400 Celsius. That's meltdown point. 819 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,080 There's no coming back from that. 820 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,880 And they I. Think it was 12, Maybe it was 821 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,320 1200. But they have like a counter 822 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,440 that keeps ticking up every like so often as they look to it. 823 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:22,920 And it's like, oh fuck, we're at like, 1167 now we're at 1169. 824 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:29,040 Nice. So Destroyer flies between the 825 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,680 Godzilla's, Rams them both down, grabs Junior by the by the 826 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,840 throat, and flies off. They pick picks them up like 827 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,320 like a hawk, picking up a squirrel. 828 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,160 Like a hawk picking up someone's Chihuahua. 829 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:47,480 Just. And honestly, I didn't know. 830 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:50,000 I thought he he would. For some reason I expected 831 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,120 Destroyer to like throw Junior into the ocean or something. 832 00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,560 I don't know why. I think this just happened a 833 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:56,760 lot. But no. 834 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:02,600 Just throws Junior directly into a building and then fires its 835 00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,480 breath weapon at it at Junior and the helicopter and Junior 836 00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:07,680 just. Junior. 837 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,160 Dies Junior, straight up dies it's. 838 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:18,880 And like there's almost not even time in the moment to settle on 839 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,440 it, right? Because like Miki Miki's like, 840 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:23,520 Oh my God, Oh my God. And like we're trying to have 841 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,200 the emotional moment and Godzilla is going towards where 842 00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,040 Junior fell, but then Destroy is like, no motherfucker, the boss 843 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,800 fight isn't over. Right. 844 00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:37,720 No, Godzilla's like crying out about this 'cause, you know, 845 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,480 very obvious immediately. Yeah, and then shot in the back. 846 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:46,080 Yeah, it's actually a great like, they do a great job of 847 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:51,280 selling a really unseen emotion for Godzilla, which is you 848 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,600 sadness and despair for this moment before, yeah, Destroyer 849 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,880 shoots him in the back and it's like, hey, no, no, no, no, no, 850 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:04,400 no, We're still fighting. Sad Cutscene is not a free 851 00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:10,360 action. So I mean, Godzilla's not not at 852 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,440 his best right now, but does try to fight Godzilla or fight 853 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,440 Destroyer physically, but basically gets shrugged off and 854 00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:21,800 Destroyer grapples him with his tail and he's like dragging 855 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:28,400 Godzilla into the water, the G force tells Yukari in in the 856 00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,160 media chopper to. To go pick up Mickey and Meru. 857 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,400 And so Godzilla is is currently burning up and there's smoke 858 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:43,280 everywhere because because of how close to meltdown Godzilla 859 00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,400 is. Destroyer, Like slashes Godzilla 860 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:50,200 with its, with its. It's like a laser horn Laser. 861 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,920 Yeah, it's sick. It's really cool. 862 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,560 Godzilla's atomic breath does like a lot of damage. 863 00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:01,960 To destroy and destroy is like bleeding everywhere, so it 864 00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,400 splits up into all the little bug creatures again, swarms 865 00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:08,160 Godzilla. Meanwhile, the the TV helicopter 866 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,960 does arrive and they get Mickey and Meru to safety. 867 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,800 The X3's about to launch again because Godzilla's very close to 868 00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,240 meltdown at this point, and having gotten away from the bugs 869 00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:22,280 for the moment, Godzilla tries to like breathe life back into 870 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,440 Junior. Yeah, kind of like, I guess the 871 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,200 idea of like in stirring like nuclear energy, but you know, 872 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:33,000 into him and you kind of see Junior stir a bit, but like just 873 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:35,320 dies. I don't know if if Junior like 874 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,920 finally dies in that moment or if it was like trying to jump 875 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,680 start a car and the car like moves a bit but then doesn't 876 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,000 like yeah. Yeah, I mean, it's the same way 877 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:47,560 that Godzilla got the spiral beans. 878 00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,560 Yeah, there's press for it, you know, so. 879 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:59,040 Oh yeah, So Godzilla's body, just like starts flashing and 880 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,160 Destroyer, having reformed again, charges at it with its 881 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,560 breath weapon and once again starts dragging Godzilla around 882 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,680 with his tail. Godzilla's atomic breath starts 883 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,280 tearing through Destroyer. There's like fire coming out of 884 00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,480 Godzilla's back. Oh yeah, the like the the 885 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,560 spines, like you can see waves of heat and radiation just 886 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,760 blasting out from the the the fins. 887 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:24,120 Yeah, like the spines are melting. 888 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,320 Yeah, and you start to see bone beneath it, which I thought was 889 00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,040 a really nice effect. Yeah. 890 00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:32,280 Yeah, Destroyer tries to escape but gets shot down by the by the 891 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,680 laser tanks that are still nearby. 892 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,440 And then Godzilla finally reaches meltdown temperature and 893 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,160 the X3 and some tanks show up. They try to cool down the body 894 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:45,360 and despite being cooled down, the radioactivity levels still 895 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,840 spike because it's still it's still happening inside of 896 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,280 Godzilla. And Godzilla melts. 897 00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:52,440 Oh my God. Oh. 898 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,160 Yeah. Holy shit the the effects work 899 00:51:56,160 --> 00:52:01,480 on this sequence is like this is upsetting to watch like and they 900 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:04,320 know Godzilla's dying. It is a sad death. 901 00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,640 We need to make this shit hit. So we got a pretty lengthy 902 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,160 sequence of like the scales and flesh melting off of him down to 903 00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:16,680 a a skeleton, and like the skeleton melting and the whole 904 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,760 body just. Like, crumbling and melting 905 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,280 down. It's really fucked. 906 00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:26,760 Yeah, and incredibly sad. I mean, the music playing in the 907 00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:32,160 background is like if Akube is if Akube is going the fuck off 908 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,920 right now. Yeah, Godzilla gives one one 909 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,400 last roar, and then there's nothing but skeleton left. 910 00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,400 It's just. Gone, Yeah. 911 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,480 The the radioactivity levels go back to normal. 912 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,880 The G force people at first are like, OK, he is melted down and 913 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:56,040 now Tokyo is like a radioactive graveyard, like we may never 914 00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,200 recover from this amount of radiation, even if we've 915 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,640 prevented, you know what the the full meltdown. 916 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,080 But then yeah, the the levels suddenly start normalizing. 917 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:11,520 Yeah, and Miki senses something out in that cloud of smoke and 918 00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:16,760 like, Junior is out there. Managed to wake back up by the 919 00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:21,480 radio from the radioactivity and then after like that one last 920 00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:25,360 shot of Junior where he's like roaring in the in the smoke, the 921 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,040 end credits play and it's mostly just like. 922 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,960 Older scenes it's like it's it's. 923 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:33,560 First off, I will note that like Junior is bigger and bulkier in 924 00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,080 his silhouette that you see through the. 925 00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,160 Smoke. He looks like just regular 926 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:37,600 Godzilla, though. He is. 927 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,800 He is not only revived, but grown into a like a Godzilla of 928 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:45,960 his own. Yeah, like he he he like clearly 929 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,600 like absorbed the energy. Just whoop had a growth, yeah. 930 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:52,600 I I was kind of and then yeah. That Destroyer wasn't like 931 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:57,080 wasn't or like the the destroyer was actually down for the count 932 00:53:57,080 --> 00:53:59,080 at that point. I kind of wanted like Junior to 933 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,680 get up and do the the kill shot. Yeah, I do think it's 934 00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,640 interesting how they basically kill like destroyer by kind of I 935 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,560 I don't know what you call it, but. 936 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,280 Like destroy a headband, withstanding the heat and 937 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,560 withstanding the freeze rays, right? 938 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:19,040 But there's something about him being overheated by Godzilla and 939 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,720 then getting freeze blasted from like that extremely high 940 00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:26,520 temperature that basically just made him collapse and explode 941 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,120 when he hit the ground. I don't know what you it's like 942 00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:32,360 when you have a fucking hot glass and you put cold water on 943 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,040 and it shatters, right? Because you microwaved your 944 00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:36,680 fucking water glass like an idiot. 945 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,680 But it's it's that it's that effect, which I think is very 946 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,320 cool because it's only weakness to that point had been extreme 947 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,040 temperatures but when it became more resilient, they just needed 948 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:52,120 to switch. But but yeah, it's like 949 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:56,120 Destroyer for look, as much as they build Destroyer up once, 950 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,920 Godzilla's really melting down, like even Destroyer can't do 951 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:02,560 shit. Like Godzilla's ripping his 952 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,400 chest open and shit. Yeah. 953 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,520 Yeah. And I mean, to be fair, like the 954 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:10,760 the final stretch of the movie, like the impact was on 955 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,440 Godzilla's death. Though I do think it's funny 956 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:19,200 that their whole thing was we're ending the series and we're, you 957 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,720 know, we're marketing that Godzilla's gonna die. 958 00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,280 They held a funeral for Godzilla after this movie released, but 959 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,680 they just gave us a new Godzilla. 960 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,720 So it's like I'm happy that that Junior survives, but it does 961 00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,800 kind of undercut. Because for most people, it's 962 00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:40,440 just going to be like, all right, we got a new Godzilla. 963 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:41,720 What's up? Yeah. 964 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:47,080 Although if you think of this as because I, when I looked at it, 965 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,120 I I saw that the release date was 99. 966 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,440 But I like, I'm saying like, oh, actually that was like when it 967 00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,680 came out on video as opposed to when it was like in theaters. 968 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,440 Yeah, it was like 95 when it was originally made. 969 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,200 So if you see. Because I was thinking this came 970 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,520 out after the 98 American Godzilla. 971 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:06,200 But if you see this as as the end of Japanese Godzilla. 972 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,600 And then maybe Junior is like being set up as being like, oh, 973 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,600 but actually this is going to be the Godzilla going forward. 974 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,600 And then this Take Godzilla movie in kind of a way that like 975 00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,600 Marvel Man was to Captain Marvel in the 50s when they were like, 976 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:22,280 yeah, we're done. You know what, Having a funeral 977 00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,400 for Godzilla and then getting the American Godzilla franchise 978 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,240 as if it was a franchise, I could see having that funeral. 979 00:56:28,240 --> 00:56:29,240 That make that makes sense. That's. 980 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,320 Yeah, well, and I think also like it's it's pretty obvious to 981 00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,560 me that the intent of having Junior was like. 982 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,800 It's their out right of like we're ending this, but if we 983 00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,120 want to, we could pick up with Junior if we gotta. 984 00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,680 And that obviously does not happen. 985 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:49,200 Although a surprising number of people, myself included at time 986 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:53,160 of release, thought that the next Japanese Godzilla movie was 987 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:57,000 Godzilla Junior. But we'll get to that when we 988 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,400 talk about Godzilla 2000. So can I actually tell a kind of 989 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,720 a cool story about how I saw this movie for the first time? 990 00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:08,040 Yeah, because it it's just kind of something that was just a 991 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,320 singular thing that was very emblematic of, like that time 992 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,680 period in, you know, international releases for stuff 993 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,960 and also like early Internet days and stuff. 994 00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:19,480 Yeah. So back at this time period, 995 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:21,880 like, you know, this is when I was like, really? 996 00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,680 I, you know, I had always been into Godzilla stuff as a kid and 997 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,560 it was, but it was always really sporadic. 998 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:32,560 Like, there was no real, like, good way to watch everything in 999 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,600 the early days like VHS and early DVDs and stuff like that. 1000 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,400 Because everything was just like a mess of licensing and rights 1001 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,880 and which versions you were going to get, all that stuff. 1002 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,320 And I remember hearing about this movie and hearing really 1003 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:50,200 good things from people that had seen it, But apparently there 1004 00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,160 was like some weird rights issue. 1005 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,000 It was really hard to get a hold of. 1006 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:58,280 I didn't have good Internet at my house, you know, at the time. 1007 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,720 So I couldn't get like, I couldn't like download a bootleg 1008 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:05,200 like some a lot of people were. It's like I I was re Yeah, yeah, 1009 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,200 there was the same infrastructure. 1010 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,400 So it was like, there just wasn't like anybody that was, 1011 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:12,880 you know, a fan of like anime and Japanese cinema and stuff at 1012 00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,600 the time is familiar with this whole song and dance. 1013 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,960 Like trying to get a hold of some of the stuff that you 1014 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,280 wanted to see was very difficult. 1015 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,440 And then I remember there was just so, you know, I kind of 1016 00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,440 just gave up on ever seeing this movie, even though I really 1017 00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:29,560 wanted to. And there was one Saturday 1018 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,920 morning, I woke up really early, way earlier than I usually did. 1019 00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,760 And I'm like, OK, well, I'm just gonna go downstairs and turn on 1020 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,000 the TVI guess, 'cause I usually got up and watched like, you 1021 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,960 know, Saturday morning cartoons and stuff. 1022 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:42,800 But, like, it was early even for that. 1023 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,120 I'm like, I'll see what's on TV, I'm scrolling. 1024 00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:49,280 And then Turner Classic Movies is showing. 1025 00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:52,200 And I did a triple take when I saw the title. 1026 00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,600 I'm like, no, it can't be. So it was like 6:30 in the 1027 00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,960 morning and I was showing it and apparently they had just gotten 1028 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,640 like the rights and were showing it like they did like that. 1029 00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,440 They had done their preview their like premiere thing the 1030 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,240 night before. And then they were doing that 1031 00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,160 thing when, oh, it's like, oh, we're showing this movie and we 1032 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:09,840 showed a bunch of times over the weekend. 1033 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:15,200 So yeah, I just happened to wake up early and just stumble upon 1034 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,880 this movie being shown on like Turner Classic Movies or 1035 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,560 something early morning on a Saturday. 1036 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:24,240 It's like just such a. Criterion collection, yeah. 1037 00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,600 Hey Criterion, get on the fucking Hey say collection. 1038 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:31,080 By the way the show of one's rule, they they need to I have, 1039 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:36,720 I have the you know I have the show era collection we need we 1040 00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:41,360 need the hey say one too But yeah it was just such a cool 1041 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,000 thing and something like that probably couldn't happen you 1042 00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,920 know these days. No. 1043 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,520 Well, it's it's such a it's a thing of the era, right? 1044 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:48,840 What streamer it was gonna be on? 1045 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:51,560 Yeah, it's it's such a different era of like. 1046 00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:56,480 Broadcast TV being like a bigger and more powerful thing than it 1047 00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:01,000 is now and cable and the lack of the Internet, the lack of 1048 01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:05,000 meaningful because somebody would have fan subbed, you know 1049 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:09,280 this movie and put it up on a torrent like in no time in 1050 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,000 today's era. But that's just not how things 1051 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,080 worked. You know most people didn't have 1052 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,120 the Internet. So. 1053 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,720 So let's let's talk a little bit about. 1054 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,160 Some more behind the scenes stuff about this movie. 1055 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:29,240 So you know the the hey Say era had been starting to get into a 1056 01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:32,920 bit of a like the hey say era had on and off kind of struggled 1057 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:38,360 to really make bank but Godzilla versus Destroyer was extremely 1058 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,520 well received. I mean, obviously the movie 1059 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:45,160 rules it made more than triple its budget, which is AI mean 1060 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,800 that's that's a lot, right? Any movie you make triple your 1061 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,720 budget, you've done pretty, pretty good. 1062 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:56,200 This is the end of an era in so many ways. 1063 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,560 It is obviously the end of the Godzilla, Hey say era. 1064 01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:02,800 It is the first time Godzilla has died since the original 1065 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:06,920 movie. It is the last movie that 1066 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:12,760 several people worked on. You know, the the producer 1067 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:19,080 Tomayuki Tanaka as well as actress Momokikochi, who is the 1068 01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,600 actress who played Amico Yamane in this and the original movie. 1069 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,400 This is the last thing that they ever did. 1070 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,720 Both of them died a couple years later, separately. 1071 01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:35,040 I don't remember what you know, the cancer, I think for at least 1072 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:39,160 one of them. Akira Ifukube fully retired 1073 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,440 after this film. He says this is his finest work 1074 01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,800 and he just he was done. He he went out on a high note. 1075 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,640 He would continue to license a lot of his music out. 1076 01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,040 So we'll keep hearing Akira Ifukube scores, but it's just 1077 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:56,200 going to all be recycled and recut and remixed from here out. 1078 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:01,280 He he lives a while longer. He lives another like tennis 1079 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,760 years after this movie. But he's old. 1080 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,240 He's like 70. He's in his 70s I think by the 1081 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:11,400 time this movie comes out. So he he he does well for 1082 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,400 himself. We do finally have another good 1083 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:25,000 injury on set story so you all may remember God, what's the 1084 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:28,760 original Godzilla suit? Actor Haruo Nakajima. 1085 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:35,000 Haruo Nakajima used to get so fucked up on The Reg, on set. 1086 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,640 They dropped this man out of cranes. 1087 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:41,480 They dropped cranes on him. Shit exploded. 1088 01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:44,520 He got electrocuted. He got dropped in water. 1089 01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,600 Like everything that could happen to this man happened. 1090 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:53,240 But like, we've had a really long time where everything has 1091 01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,640 been pretty safe. Not so much anymore. 1092 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,680 Konpachiro Satsuma, who is the suit actor who has played 1093 01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:01,360 Godzilla all through the hey say era. 1094 01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,920 So in order to make the burning Godzilla suit, what they did is 1095 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,800 they took, you know, they made a Godzilla suit and they put like 1096 01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:17,560 glowing lights under like a, you know, translucent like plastic 1097 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:22,520 panels. And to create that smoke effect, 1098 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,200 they basically like pumped this gas, which was largely carbon 1099 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:32,360 dioxide with some other shit mixed in like. 1100 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:37,480 They no, that whatever you were about to say when you said and 1101 01:03:37,480 --> 01:03:42,360 to get this, get this gas, I was like like no matter what it's 1102 01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:45,800 like, oh, it's like loaded up with with like dry ice or oh, 1103 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,920 they had to like. Have fog machines that like 1104 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:51,400 scalded him or oh he couldn't fucking breathe like whatever 1105 01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:53,760 you were about to say was going to be this man got gassed 1106 01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,800 unconscious like 6 different times while making the sunbeam 1107 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:02,960 because of because of the gas they used to make the steam 1108 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:07,920 effect when he was in the water. OK, so so. 1109 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:11,840 I'm going to be real here. If it happens once or twice, 1110 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:14,760 it's full, you know, obviously fully on the crew and stuff. 1111 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:18,920 If it happens six times, my dude, I think you need to take 1112 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:21,240 some responsibility for what's happening. 1113 01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,360 It's like, I don't know what's going like. 1114 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:26,720 There's clearly no unions involved because there's no way 1115 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,960 you could get away with this shit in a union environment. 1116 01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:34,240 This man got just imagine, like, Godzilla's wading through the 1117 01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:38,000 big pool glowing, and then suddenly just kind of stops and 1118 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:43,120 the head slumps and they're like, fuck, fuck, sorry, not 1119 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,480 exhaustive, passed out again. Turn off the gas. 1120 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:50,640 We got to go get the helmet off. So like on on one of my shows, 1121 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,280 another pass, we we every five episodes look at movies that 1122 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:55,640 were, you know, just giant clausal fuck ups behind the 1123 01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,120 scenes and somehow they pulled off because it. 1124 01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:00,440 Because that's the proof of concept for the the rest of the 1125 01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,000 episodes, right? And we talked about the Wizard 1126 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:05,600 of Oz, where the the amount of third degree burns and the 1127 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,480 amount of almost died from inhalation of Oh my God, 1128 01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:11,440 metallic. Dust and all of the terrible 1129 01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,800 things they eventually all called it. 1130 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,200 At a certain point, they all said I I can't do this anymore. 1131 01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,440 And they had to start figuring out workarounds because, you 1132 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:21,720 know, it's still 1930s Hollywood. 1133 01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:23,760 It was it was awful. But at a certain point people 1134 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,240 are like, what are you doing? Like I like I am not going to 1135 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,320 take another burn. And then you know the stunt 1136 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,480 double would get burned or or or shit like that. 1137 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:34,600 Like the witch especially. This is a scenario of like fool 1138 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,600 me once, shame on you, fool me twice. 1139 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:38,560 I, I You can't. You can't fool me again. 1140 01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:45,920 So it's crazy because Godzilla, Junior's suit actor, is a is is 1141 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:48,360 named Hurricane Ryu. I saw that. 1142 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:54,840 I love that he is. He is a semi famous Japanese 1143 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:58,040 like, you know actor, stuntman, wrestler. 1144 01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,520 And I mean like again the dude goes by Hurricane Ryu and just 1145 01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,840 like he's a big motherfucker. There's a certain point where 1146 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,280 you have to be like maybe we should put the dude named 1147 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:13,920 Hurricane Ryu in the in the fucking in the no breathing 1148 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:17,080 suit. Like you know, could we could we 1149 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,920 hook up like a gas mask and an oxygen tank for this guy? 1150 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,000 Like what was our solution? Well we need the micro oxygen 1151 01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:28,080 oxygen tank, the the itty bitty one he showed on the sometime 1152 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,880 around gassing #4. They probably should have 1153 01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:35,600 figured out they had a problem. Yeah, again, after #2. 1154 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,120 Like, what are we doing here guys? 1155 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,160 Yeah, this is, this is not my favorite suit actor. 1156 01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:45,000 Injury to happen on the set of a Godzilla movie, which is still 1157 01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:49,680 the time they dropped Harder Will Nakajima out of a crane 1158 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,640 like 20 something feet directly onto his chest in the Rodin 1159 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,800 suit. But this is this is pretty up 1160 01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:03,160 there. We do have a couple of excellent 1161 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,960 titles. First is from Taiwan. 1162 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:14,800 In Taiwan, the movie was called Dinosaur Empire, which is 1163 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:17,920 objectively a pretty ripping name. 1164 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,240 Yeah. Like like it's a bad name for a 1165 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,880 Godzilla movie. But if you released a movie 1166 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,720 called Dinosaur Empire. Yeah, I'm there. 1167 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:31,000 If, look, I have a lot of criticisms about the Jurassic 1168 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:35,160 World movies, right. If if they make if they're like, 1169 01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,520 hey, this next one is called Jurassic Empire. 1170 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,560 I'm I'm there like you will fool me again. 1171 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,200 Or or or do a flip on that one and do an empire of cause like 1172 01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:47,040 if you were empire of the dinosaur. 1173 01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:49,920 I'm I'm actually kind of here for it where it's like now 1174 01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:52,480 there's two Godzilla and there's like other prehistoric. 1175 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,800 Monsters like Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes, right? 1176 01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:56,960 Well, yeah. Well, I mean anything you put in 1177 01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,000 front of Under the Apes, I'm probably here for. 1178 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:06,040 Aside from Beneath, we have another excellent title from 1179 01:08:06,120 --> 01:08:11,840 India, which is the last Godzilla, which is just like 1180 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,640 you. You you hit it on the nose, you 1181 01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,480 did a good job. It's not technically true 1182 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,640 because there is another Godzilla, but like, I admire the 1183 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:23,040 gumption. Yeah, Dinosaur Empire is still 1184 01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:25,680 my favorite, but the last Godzilla is like, hey, y'all did 1185 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,359 somebody sat down and tried on that one and did a good job 1186 01:08:28,359 --> 01:08:33,439 Starring Tom Cruise as the last Godzilla, It's. 1187 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,880 Just like he's on the rooftop being like Godzilla, you got to 1188 01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,359 do it. And he like is doing like roar 1189 01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:41,680 motions and Godzilla's like. Being like, no, that's a good 1190 01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:43,200 idea. I should roar, OK, I'm going to 1191 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:44,359 roar and then I'm going to breathe fire. 1192 01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,880 And that's why Tom Cruise is the last Godzilla. 1193 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:53,000 This is, this is broadly considered one of the best films 1194 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:54,880 in the franchise. It's one of the best films in 1195 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:59,600 the entire Kaiju genre. I mean, obvious, like we just 1196 01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,920 sat and watched it. I like we don't have to skip to 1197 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,880 the part where we talk about whether it's good or not. 1198 01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:08,479 Like this movie was fucking good and everybody knows it. 1199 01:09:08,479 --> 01:09:10,680 Critics know it, and critics hate Godzilla movies. 1200 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,600 One thing that I think is also really interesting about this 1201 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,399 movie, and about Destroya in particular, is Destroya has 1202 01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:22,920 never shown up again in Destroya is A1 and done. 1203 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:27,600 Destroya is A1 and done. And it's not because Destroya is 1204 01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,439 unpopular or anything. Like Destroya is actually one of 1205 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,359 the most popular and memorable villains in the franchise, Yeah. 1206 01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,840 And and it's one of the best designs too. 1207 01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:40,520 Like like that thing looks imposing and evil but it's like 1208 01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:42,960 they just did it once and then they retired him. 1209 01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:48,080 Like just he destroy is done. Like it helps the destroy is 1210 01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:49,319 like. Some level, as much as I would 1211 01:09:49,319 --> 01:09:53,040 like Destroy is tied with the Oxygen Destroyer. 1212 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:55,400 So unless you're going to do that, that's why like a lot of 1213 01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,480 people thought that like Godzilla versus Kong was going 1214 01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:00,640 to use Destroyer because they use the Oxygen Destroyer in the 1215 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:02,320 second movie. But like. 1216 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,800 I I I was definitely one of the people that was thinking that 1217 01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,760 but also did not think it matched up with some of the 1218 01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:12,120 stuff so but you have to make you have to like focus on the 1219 01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,160 oxygen Destroyer to even use destroyer. 1220 01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:17,480 Yeah God. And it's like it's it's kind of 1221 01:10:17,480 --> 01:10:21,360 a a it speaks to the hey say era in general right. 1222 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,760 Like if you look at Godzilla's foes like Biolante is A1 and 1223 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:27,280 done. Biolante's never come back. 1224 01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:33,760 Biolante is one of the most popular and memorable like enemy 1225 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,760 monsters in the franchise. And also one of the most 1226 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,440 impressive. Oh, one of the most impressive 1227 01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:42,240 pieces of practical effects work ever that I've ever seen. 1228 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:49,240 You get a really, really strong versions of King Ghidorah and 1229 01:10:49,240 --> 01:10:54,120 Mothra and Mechagodzilla, right? Great redesigns for some of 1230 01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:58,000 Godzilla's most famous foes, coming from great movies that 1231 01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,040 really utilize them in interesting ways. 1232 01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:05,560 And then Destroyer is, you know, like Violante, this incredible 1233 01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:06,400 one. And done. 1234 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,880 It's kind of, you know, not to keep picking on him. 1235 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,720 But Space Godzilla, Come on, man. 1236 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,000 Everybody else in the class is doing so good. 1237 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:16,960 Yeah, but unfortunately Space Godzilla has. 1238 01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,440 The strength. He's like the one that's getting 1239 01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,600 held up by the. He's like the one that's getting 1240 01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,680 held up by everybody else's project. 1241 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,160 Well and also on his name like that's sort of the the thing 1242 01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,040 like space Godzilla stands out for everyone's memory because 1243 01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,480 it's like Bizarro Superman, it's you know it's it is based on 1244 01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:35,200 Godzilla in a way that like you remember it, like there was a 1245 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,320 toy that I remembered existed and you know because because 1246 01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:40,760 it's just, it's evil Space Godzilla. 1247 01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:42,920 Like it's it's evil Godzilla, but from space. 1248 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,160 In a way that is different from Destroyer, which first of all 1249 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,640 the name is just like, well it makes sense in the context of 1250 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:52,640 the Oxygen Destroyer. Like if you tell a non person 1251 01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:56,560 like a a a layman about about like there's this giant monster, 1252 01:11:56,560 --> 01:11:58,720 it's really cool it's named Destroyer. 1253 01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,400 That sounds like the most You're making this shit up, right? 1254 01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:04,440 Right. Well, and like, look, let's be 1255 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:06,640 real. Destroyer is a real, real campy 1256 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:13,880 ass name, but it's like destroy us, such a good monster and such 1257 01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:18,200 a good villain, and leave such an impact that it actually gets 1258 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,880 to kind of earn that fucking name. 1259 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:24,160 Yeah, it kind of makes me think of not that the movie was that 1260 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,440 good, but the sequel to Pacific Rim where there is kind of like 1261 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,760 this like fusion component for like I make my monster grow kind 1262 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:35,000 of element because of being able to split off into these modular 1263 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,040 crabs before coming together for giant crab. 1264 01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:40,440 Yeah, crab. Giant winged crab. 1265 01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,480 Giant winged enemy devil crab. Yeah. 1266 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,280 Oh yeah, it's this. This movie is so fucking good. 1267 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,480 And like everything from it hit, right? 1268 01:12:51,480 --> 01:12:54,640 I mean Destroyer like we said, and it have have been nailing on 1269 01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,000 IS. This movie is just so it's it's 1270 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,960 it's a beautifully made movie. The practical effects work is 1271 01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:01,480 great. It's well written. 1272 01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,800 It's well acted. The score is incredible. 1273 01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:07,360 Destroyer Rules burning. Godzilla comes from one fucking 1274 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,920 movie, and it's one of the most memorable incarnations of 1275 01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,800 Godzilla ever. The point that they like. 1276 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,120 But I mean had to do like even. When you see like. 1277 01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,440 Again, it's the Super Saiyan form for this Godzilla. 1278 01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:19,920 Yeah, so it's going to stand out for everyone. 1279 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,240 Like, Oh yeah, I remember that time. 1280 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:24,480 I've got an incredible trick, but I can only do it once. 1281 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,440 Daffy Duck, swallowing them out. Right. 1282 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,640 Like even like crossover stuff like you still like in fall, 1283 01:13:33,640 --> 01:13:35,600 guys. I have the burning Godzilla 1284 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,640 costume. Like, like, it's still like 1285 01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:43,720 considered a really sharp, iconic, memorable design for 1286 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,560 Godzilla. Like, if this if this series was 1287 01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:50,040 truly going to go into hibernation, this was the movie 1288 01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,120 to go out on. Obviously. 1289 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,400 Like, look, we can't. You all lived through history. 1290 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:57,680 We know that. The 98. 1291 01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:01,560 Godzilla is not well received and that Toho will come back in 1292 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:05,120 only a couple of years with a new Japanese Godzilla movie and 1293 01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:08,600 start a new era. But you know, if we were going 1294 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,920 to have another decade plus like hibernation, this was a good 1295 01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:15,400 place to go out on. And they had a plan, right? 1296 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,520 They were like, OK, well, if Godzilla's going to be, you 1297 01:14:18,520 --> 01:14:21,920 know, in the hands of Sony for a bit, maybe we we focus on Mothra 1298 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:25,160 for a while. You know, that's coming Next we 1299 01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,040 will talk about, you know, Mothra gets her own trilogy. 1300 01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,960 That all happens through the late 90s. 1301 01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:35,000 So it's not like they shut the studio down or anything, but 1302 01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:38,320 just. Didn't need the lake? 1303 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,400 Yeah. Just didn't need the pool. 1304 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,640 You know who famously doesn't swim? 1305 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:44,040 Mothra. Mothra. 1306 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,400 Yeah. Well, like baby, baby swim a 1307 01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:48,760 lot. Baby swim a lot. 1308 01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:54,480 Adult Mothra do not. Which is funny because the 2nd 1309 01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:57,200 Mothra movie is actually almost entirely water focused. 1310 01:14:57,200 --> 01:15:00,960 So I I don't know. Speaking of water, I just want 1311 01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:03,360 to call this one out we because we didn't really mention it, the 1312 01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:06,640 tail work for both Godzilla and Tripper while they're moving 1313 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:10,720 through the water is Oh my God. Splashing down effect. 1314 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:12,480 Oh yeah, that is so. Good. 1315 01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:15,920 And it gives a sense of it using its tail, even when it's clearly 1316 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,680 walking in shallow water for it like that. 1317 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,680 It's using the tail to help, like propel it forward in ways 1318 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:24,680 that I I was just like oh, this is. 1319 01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,080 Which is fantastic work because they could easily have had the 1320 01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,440 tail underwater and not worried about it. 1321 01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:31,880 Yeah, well, in the physics of the the water splashes, right, 1322 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,240 is really, I mean, obviously again, when you have a physical 1323 01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:36,880 prop hitting physical water, it's going to look like a 1324 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,760 splashing. That sounds like a stupid thing 1325 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,680 to say. But remember, they are shooting 1326 01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:48,800 this footage at a higher frame rate than 24 FPS and then 1327 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,200 slowing it down. You know, in order to give these 1328 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:56,080 things the the weight that they need to have for something of 1329 01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:58,440 that size. So like they've managed to get 1330 01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:02,280 it dialed in just right, that when that tail hits that water 1331 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:09,000 in that slowed down footage, it looks like water splashing, like 1332 01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:11,440 at that scale and it doesn't look like slow MO. 1333 01:16:11,560 --> 01:16:14,760 That's a thing that we would immediately pick up on as 1334 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:20,360 looking weird without being able to put words to it if that water 1335 01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:24,960 moved too slow. So just yeah, I mean the the 1336 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,160 production work that went into making these movies look as good 1337 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:33,880 as they do is it's it's artistry that so many modern film makers 1338 01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:37,320 are not given the opportunity to explore, sadly. 1339 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,440 Yeah, well, and I'm like impressed because like, sure, a 1340 01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:43,040 close up made a ton of sense. Like when they use the tale just 1341 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:44,760 to illustrate that Godzilla was there. 1342 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:46,800 Like. Yeah, that that makes, you know, 1343 01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:50,760 it's the Jaws fan situation. But when when actually like you 1344 01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:53,080 know Godzilla junior slash Tripper was actually like out of 1345 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,640 the water and the tail still doing that same kind of effect 1346 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,720 for propulsion, like that's like that's effort. 1347 01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,920 They didn't have to do it. Like they really went the extra 1348 01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:05,000 mile in a lot of spots. Yeah, yeah, this. 1349 01:17:05,000 --> 01:17:10,680 This is for being the in many ways the culmination of the Hey 1350 01:17:10,680 --> 01:17:15,440 Sayer of Godzilla of this like modern revival and attempt to 1351 01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:21,400 create like a single cohesive series out of Out of Godzilla. 1352 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:25,280 Because like the Mothra movies are so completely different. 1353 01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,920 It's you really don't want to think of them as a continuation 1354 01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:33,360 in the same way. Yeah this is it's just this is 1355 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:36,120 something special. This is one I would I'd been 1356 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,560 looking forward to. I knew it was going to be a 1357 01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:41,160 special one when watching it. It's one of the ones I've 1358 01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:45,040 watched the most, and Despite that, I still find magic in it 1359 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:49,760 when I watch it so. And I've been Jones jonesing to 1360 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,520 rewatch this one for a while, so I was like, waiting until put 1361 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:56,520 your fucking mark on this movie, or immediately when I was. 1362 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,360 Yeah, I mean that this is one of the ones where I'm like, yeah, I 1363 01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:01,400 got, I got it, I got it on this one. 1364 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:05,680 Just cause like, I mean also just like when I told the story 1365 01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,720 about, you know when I saw it for the first time like. 1366 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:11,680 Like, it was such a memorable, singular experience for me. 1367 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:14,600 Like, it's one of my favorite memories of, you know, finding 1368 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:20,000 and watching them And the movie just it holds up so, so well, 1369 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,600 well, 'cause it's it's look. By the way, I have to, I have to 1370 01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:26,920 point out I have this movie on Blu-ray and it came in a double 1371 01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:30,600 pack and it's Godzilla versus Destroyer and Godzilla versus 1372 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,240 mega megagrarius. Makes no sense. 1373 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,240 Like, just absolutely one of the most baffling double packs. 1374 01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:39,640 And it's like, best of the hey, say movies. 1375 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:44,280 And like, you didn't pair it with like the Godzilla versus 1376 01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,520 Space Godzilla like they did on the DVD, which makes sense. 1377 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,760 The one right before it. You didn't pair it with one of 1378 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,520 the other incredibly good movies. 1379 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,520 You didn't pair it with Godzilla 2000, which is the next one. 1380 01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:57,120 No, you paired it with two movies out, One of the worst 1381 01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,720 movies in the series. To my memory, it's a weird pick. 1382 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:03,720 Like, I'm pretty sure it's literally just like. 1383 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:08,520 Hey, no one's going to buy this movie otherwise, it's a Sony 1384 01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,440 Blu-ray, right? Because it's a Sony has some 1385 01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:14,000 weird licensing shit with a lot of the, a lot of the, hey say 1386 01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:15,800 and Millennium era Godzilla movies. 1387 01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:20,640 I also like, you know, we talk, we've talked a lot about, you 1388 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:22,400 know, how beautiful the production work is on this 1389 01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,520 movie. You know, it's it's it's a it's 1390 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,560 a real, like mastercraft of filmmaking for what it is. 1391 01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:35,200 But also like it it's it's kind of impressive how well they 1392 01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:41,080 managed to a lot of the hey say era has been really hammering on 1393 01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:43,920 messages, right. Godzilla versus Biolante, they 1394 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,880 were like we are going to talk about and make this very clearly 1395 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:50,160 and specifically about tampering with like genetic editing, 1396 01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:52,520 right. And it's the the the classic, 1397 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,240 like don't meddle in science, you don't understand Godzilla 1398 01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,640 versus Mothra. Very strong, you know, 1399 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:03,200 ecological messages. You know, Godzilla versus King 1400 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,880 Ghidorah is is, at least from the way we read it, has some 1401 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:11,440 really weird, interesting messages about like nationalism, 1402 01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,520 you know, and and some real interesting critique of, like, 1403 01:20:15,520 --> 01:20:19,840 Japan as an economic engine. But this movie really just kind 1404 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,440 of subtly goes OK, well, if we're looking back at the 1405 01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:25,520 original and we're looking at the entire legacy of Godzilla, 1406 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:30,200 we're going to tell a story about humanity's not the right 1407 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,800 word, right? But we're gonna tell a story 1408 01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:37,840 about the ways that that Godzilla is a sympathetic 1409 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:40,760 figure, even when he's at his most destructive. 1410 01:20:41,160 --> 01:20:45,280 And we're going to go back to the original sin of the original 1411 01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,400 Godzilla, which is, you know, the arms race and tampering with 1412 01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,200 science we shouldn't be fucking with. 1413 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,040 And I really respect that. It doesn't really have as much 1414 01:20:55,040 --> 01:21:02,760 to say on the front of like talking about Japan's place in 1415 01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:06,960 the world that a lot of these movies do, but I really 1416 01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:13,360 appreciate how well and and how not heavy-handed it was with 1417 01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,400 that subject matter. Yeah, I mean that. 1418 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,920 Is the one thing I was like kind of bummed about with this movie 1419 01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:21,760 where it didn't like. While it was a love letter to 1420 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,200 the first Godzilla movie, I I did feel like was not. 1421 01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,920 Really trying to tackle that much social commentary to the 1422 01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,360 same degree as some of the other ones and like it. 1423 01:21:33,480 --> 01:21:36,040 It could. It could have felt a little bit 1424 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,080 more like here's like some of the lingering ones of the series 1425 01:21:39,960 --> 01:21:42,160 and still got in that same sort of like here's our victory lap 1426 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:43,400 of all the characters that we care about. 1427 01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:46,840 It kind of, it kind of gets to like, shortcut a lot of that 1428 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,720 work by just like having the original actress for Amico 1429 01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,080 Yamane show up right. I know yet like again, it's a 1430 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,600 good movie. But there's like a few things I 1431 01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,560 would have made this like truly one of like. 1432 01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,040 The greats for me, Yeah. Just just in terms of like, I I 1433 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:01,960 mean, it was just like a weird incident where I happened to be 1434 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:04,120 showing this to, like, my mother-in-law today. 1435 01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:06,560 It's like, well, this is a strange situation. 1436 01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,760 And it's like, well, what is this representative of crabs? 1437 01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:15,200 Devil crab. Sorry, Charlotte, I cut you off 1438 01:22:15,200 --> 01:22:16,520 there. No, you're good. 1439 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,560 There's one line I don't remember if it's. 1440 01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,840 I think it's right after Godzilla melts down. 1441 01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,720 I think you know, this might just be the. 1442 01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:31,680 The consequence for having used the nuclear weapons in the 1st 1443 01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:35,240 place or something like that. And what I thought, I thought 1444 01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:38,440 they were trying to get into, like, hey, when you use a weapon 1445 01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:43,280 like this, like a nuclear weapon or an oxygen destroyer, it has 1446 01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,640 more consequences than you intend. 1447 01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:50,280 And you shouldn't just do it. Yeah, they could have gone and 1448 01:22:50,280 --> 01:22:52,800 it it would have only taken like a couple extra lines of 1449 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:56,080 dialogue, probably. But they could have gone and 1450 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,040 nailed into the point of like all of the horror. 1451 01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:02,400 If this is the end of Godzilla, if we have just watched Godzilla 1452 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:07,200 die and in its death it has turned Tokyo into a permanent 1453 01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,640 graveyard. You know you have the ability to 1454 01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:16,880 say like all of this, all of this, the the the decade of harm 1455 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:21,120 that we've lived through from Godzilla coming back, all of it 1456 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,120 is an unintended consequence of our playing with nuclear power. 1457 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,920 Because we let off one bomb. We as as a species let off 1 1458 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:32,280 fucking bomb in. Which is not true as a second. 1459 01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:37,360 Any point is they could have hit a little harder that like we did 1460 01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:41,320 shit 5040 years ago. It would have been 40 years ago, 1461 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:42,800 not 50I. I can do math. 1462 01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,880 And the consequences of that mistake are following us to this 1463 01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:51,240 day. And the fallout, literal 1464 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,440 fallout, will will we may never recover from. 1465 01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,640 And I feel like as is way too common with these movies, they 1466 01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:03,000 were kind of like, OK, but we got to we got to rap and we got 1467 01:24:03,000 --> 01:24:06,880 to get the credits rolling and everybody has to go home, which 1468 01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:14,240 is not actually how movies work. So yeah, does anybody have any 1469 01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:20,560 other final thoughts? I kind of wish when Junior 1470 01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,760 rather than have like Junior like stand up triumphantly. 1471 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:25,920 If if it wasn't a scenario of Junior getting up and getting to 1472 01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,440 do the kill shot against Destroyer, then Junior should 1473 01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:30,320 have just disappeared. When they're like, oh, the 1474 01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,320 radiation is is going down and then like have a Godzilla shaped 1475 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,520 hole, allowing for it to be a little bit more of a tease of 1476 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,680 like what's going to be coming, you know, yeah. 1477 01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,360 Rather than being like Godzilla's back and then then. 1478 01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:45,920 You know, Godzilla 2000 comes out and you're like, Oh yeah, 1479 01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,360 that's the next one with with this sequel, Godzilla that. 1480 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,240 Yeah, it's not the first time we've had a Godzilla hand off in 1481 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:54,280 the series. Right, right. 1482 01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,840 Exactly. Anybody else? 1483 01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:02,760 Well, that sounds like that's a wrap on this episode. 1484 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,120 Thank you all so much for joining us on our journey so 1485 01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:08,800 far, Case. You got anything you feel like 1486 01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,320 plugging for our listeners? Sure. 1487 01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:14,920 I work on a bunch of stuff. Our our production schedules 1488 01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:18,280 have also been weird for my stuff, in part because I had a 1489 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:21,160 baby and in part because everyone's got life stuff right 1490 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,360 now and it's it's it's all kinds of things. 1491 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:27,040 But I host a couple of podcasts that are not on indefinite 1492 01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,160 hiatus, and that Men of Steel, which is a Superman and 1493 01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:32,640 Superman, Jason's Appreciation Show. 1494 01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:35,760 Derek, you were just on and we were talking about Beast Wars, 1495 01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:38,040 which? This episode will probably drop 1496 01:25:38,040 --> 01:25:41,120 before the episode that you were on, because podcast time is 1497 01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,880 weird, but we're all time traveling. 1498 01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:47,400 It's a fun show, you should check that out. 1499 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:49,680 There's a spin off YouTube series called Superman Analogues 1500 01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,840 where I talk about characters who are like Superman and why 1501 01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:55,200 they're interesting to me and usually give like a 5:00-ish 1502 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:56,680 minute description of that character. 1503 01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,080 Check that out on YouTube by looking up the certain POV Media 1504 01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,520 YouTube channel. The other show I've got going is 1505 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:06,200 Another Pass, which is a movie analysis show where we talked 1506 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,720 about movies that we find fascinating but flawed and 1507 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,400 discuss what could have been done at the time of production 1508 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:15,360 to make it a stronger movie. And then every five episodes we 1509 01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:18,600 look at a movie that actually had that process, a movie that 1510 01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,040 you know had some issues behind the scenes and someone was 1511 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:23,960 creative enough to make it into a workable production. 1512 01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:27,200 So those are both great shows. You should check them out. 1513 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:31,000 You should check out Tube Spin Off if you like D&D real play 1514 01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,200 games. I do have a show that is on 1515 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,840 indefinite hiatus because we just have not been able to get 1516 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,840 together since the pandemic started and that you know the 1517 01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:40,920 momentum kind of died and that is Scruffy. 1518 01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:46,480 Nerf Herders which is the Star Wars company wide game that I 1519 01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:50,320 ran for certain POV the 1st 50 episodes is 1 campaign, so you 1520 01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:53,760 could go check that one out. But yeah, those those are my big 1521 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,680 projects. Check all that out and yeah, I 1522 01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,120 will. I will point out to listeners, 1523 01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,760 if you're looking for a good place to start, Charlotte and I 1524 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:07,520 were on an episode of another Pass for the 1970s King Kong 1525 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:11,440 reboot, and I think that was a really good episode and a really 1526 01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,280 fascinating look into that movie. 1527 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,680 That would be a great place for folks to start if they have not 1528 01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,240 listened to that show. Yeah, we also did the 98 1529 01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:22,160 Godzilla movie. Not with You 2, but, and that's 1530 01:27:22,160 --> 01:27:24,000 a good episode. I listened to that and I I think 1531 01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,520 that's a really, really interesting to like that's 1532 01:27:26,840 --> 01:27:31,600 thinking about that in that way is going to inform me, probably 1533 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,560 for the better when I get to the 98 Godzilla. 1534 01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:39,640 Which is eminent, yes. Especially now that the strike 1535 01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,680 is over and we can cover movies from major studios. 1536 01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:46,280 Again, Justin, what about you? Got anything you want to plug? 1537 01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:53,080 Nothing but in particular just obviously SDGC which Derek is 1538 01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:57,600 one of my Co hosts on. You know, I have not been able 1539 01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,160 to participate as much as I would like this year. 1540 01:28:00,280 --> 01:28:01,720 I've had some personal stuff going on. 1541 01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,760 Team has been wonderful in supporting me and being 1542 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:09,320 understandable about that, so it's also not a job, so just go 1543 01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,040 out. Support them. 1544 01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,080 It's OK. Yeah, well, you need to take 1545 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:16,720 time to take care of yourself. But yeah, just just make sure, 1546 01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:20,480 you know, go out, give, you know, keep giving them their 1547 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:22,080 support. Wonderful people. 1548 01:28:23,000 --> 01:28:26,600 That I very much enjoy speaking with and spending time with. 1549 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:31,000 And then I think I kind of said the same thing last time I was 1550 01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:35,280 on, but just I just fun thing to recommend. 1551 01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:38,120 Try to find a movie that's outside of your usual comfort 1552 01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:43,320 zone or your usual focus, give it a shot, see what you think 1553 01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,520 and then maybe try to branch out from there. 1554 01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,760 This is something I'm kind of trying to encourage with people 1555 01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,200 that. Love movies? 1556 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:53,880 And since we're on a movie podcast, I feel like I feel like 1557 01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,480 it's a good chance to mention that worst thing that can happen 1558 01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:59,520 is you lose a couple hours well. Yeah. 1559 01:29:00,280 --> 01:29:02,160 And it's one of those things that's easier, I think, with 1560 01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,680 movies than I think with other forms of media to try to branch 1561 01:29:05,680 --> 01:29:07,720 out a little bit. But it's something I've noticed, 1562 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,400 that a lot of people just don't really take risks with what they 1563 01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,200 watch. And I think, you know, maybe 1564 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:13,600 maybe we could break some of the Yeah. 1565 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,480 Well folks, if you've enjoyed this episode of Castle Bravo, 1566 01:29:17,480 --> 01:29:19,920 please consider rating and reviewing us on your podcast app 1567 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,520 of choice, and recommend the show to your friends and cohorts 1568 01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,240 to help us beat the whims of the almighty algorithms. 1569 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:29,040 That's all we've got this week. See you next whenever and take 1570 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:33,800 care everyone. Castle Bravo is a production of 1571 01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:35,800 Derek Van Dyke and Charlotte Landale. 1572 01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:38,960 All editing is performed by Derek Van Dyke. 1573 01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:44,600 Special thanks to Kirie Lamont for our art assets and to David 1574 01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,160 Van Dyke for our theme song Pools of Memory.