1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,520 Welcome to Peptides for Women. I'm Jennifer Woodward, and this 2 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:12,280 is your podcast for smart, honest conversations about 3 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,600 peptide therapy and midlife Wellness. 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:19,160 We cover everything from GLP ones to BPC 157, plus the 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:23,240 foundations that still matter, sunlight steps, strength 6 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:26,280 training, protein and minerals. So if you're ready to feel 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,160 better with science, back tools, and natural habits that actually 8 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,920 work, you're in the right place. Let's dive in. 9 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,840 Welcome back to the Peptides for Women podcast. 10 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,040 I'm pretty excited to be welcoming my new friend Samantha 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,280 Lander to the podcast. Let me tell you about her. 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,320 Samantha is a functional diagnostic nutrition 13 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,880 practitioner, a freaking DJA single mom in recovery, and an 14 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:54,080 entrepreneur. She helps women uncover the root 15 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,240 causes of stubborn health issues like bloating, hormone 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,600 imbalances, and fatigue through personalized functional lab 17 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,239 testing, customized supplement and peptide protocols, and 18 00:01:04,239 --> 00:01:07,120 lifestyle. Her passion is guiding women to 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:10,840 heal their bodies and reclaim their energy because women 20 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,280 deserve to feel their best. Fully agreed. 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Samantha, I love that. How are you doing today? 22 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:16,200 Oh. Good. 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,240 I'm so excited to be on your podcast. 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,160 I'm so excited you're here. I. 25 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,600 Thought you were like such a celebrity in the. 26 00:01:24,960 --> 00:01:27,800 With my 30 podcast episodes out, I love it. 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,120 Oh, they kept popping up on my feet when I went because I just 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,800 listened to peptide podcast. Like when I first got into it, 29 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,360 it was like anything peptide. So you always popped up. 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,440 So it's working. Amazing. 31 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,920 I love it. Well, thank you for listening to 32 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,240 podcasts and thank you for being on the podcast. 33 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,760 When we connected last week, I was like, Oh my gosh, I love 34 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,640 your story. I love every single person that 35 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,120 comes on the podcast. Like I just feel like this is so 36 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:56,000 important for women to know and understand, but so many of us in 37 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,040 midlife, so many of us are women in midlife particularly have a 38 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,480 pretty similar story. You know, girl turns 40, girl 39 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:05,360 puts on 15 lbs girls. Like what the fuck? 40 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,080 Girls introduced to peptides girls like, yes, this is 41 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,240 amazing. All right, your story is a 42 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,000 little bit different and really, really fun. 43 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,200 You're also a practitioner and you're diving deep into another 44 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:19,560 side of peptides. Not not the general peptides 45 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,000 that you know, everyone kind of experiments with that slippery 46 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:25,800 slope of GLP if you want to nad to growth hormone secreta gogs 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:29,480 to what's next. And so I am excited to dive into 48 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,840 a little bit of a deeper pool with you with regards to 49 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,440 peptides today. But first, tell me about your 50 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,440 story. I mean, you're, you've got a lot 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:41,160 going on in the background, So just give us a little color on, 52 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,320 you know, where you've been for the last 20 years. 53 00:02:43,640 --> 00:02:46,680 Right, so today I'm fortunate enough to say that like I feel 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 like all my streams are finally into one big river. 55 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,240 So for me, you know, I had that classic story like super sick, 56 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,840 always sick as a kid, bloated, weight loss resistance or just 57 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,120 puppies, chronic stomach aches, things like that. 58 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,080 Never diagnosed a lot of medication. 59 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,440 And well, Fast forward is, you know, I kind of just struggled 60 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,040 through all that fatigue like my whole life until, you know, 61 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,160 diagnosed with ADHD, all that stuff. 62 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,000 And then basically what happened was, and I mean, I partied a lot 63 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,840 so we could get into that, but the meat of it was I started 64 00:03:17,920 --> 00:03:20,640 junior year of college, I started medic, self medicating 65 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:23,440 with drugs basically. So I was partying a lot, going 66 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,040 out to LA and I tried meth for the first time out in LA and 67 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,720 that was sort of the perfect cocktail for me. 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,720 I mean, I was doing a lot of GHB, a lot of ketamine, a lot of 69 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,720 ecstasy, a lot of club drugs at the time. 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,320 But when I did meth, it was the first time that I felt like I 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,640 had energy again. I did lose some weight, so I was 72 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,520 never able to lose weight. It was always a battle, always 73 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:45,600 food cravings took the cravings away. 74 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:47,360 It was almost like my own little GLP. 75 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,040 But then I could focus and I actually felt like, I mean, not, 76 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:51,360 it's not recommending anyone goes. 77 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,040 There is a peptide actually similar to this, but tessophan. 78 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,520 But you really like, it's like it leveled my brain out. 79 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,240 And obviously, you know, neurotransmitters are made in 80 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,920 the gut. So I'm a firm believer that my 81 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,680 gut was so like jacked up that that's probably why I had a lot 82 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,400 of these symptoms of ADH cheeks. I don't really have them anymore 83 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,400 with the help of a lot of peptides and stuff. 84 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:16,079 So I got heavily deep into drugs and that Fast forward, I was 85 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:18,200 selling drugs because I'm an entrepreneur, right? 86 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,160 So it's not far from what I'm doing now. 87 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:23,840 Now, sometimes when I'm doing this peptide stuff, I'm like, I 88 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,480 was like, this just feels so similar. 89 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,040 But I was selling drugs and I grew like, I like we were 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,200 talking before we got on, like I do things and I do them well at 91 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,680 110%, whether it's, you know, a good thing or a bad thing. 92 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,200 And I ended up with a full SWAT raid, landed myself in prison, 93 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:43,800 did federal prison time, did LA County time. 94 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,960 And then I got out and got into the health and Wellness space 95 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,720 and became personal trainer. And that's when I got basically 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:53,440 introduced to functional lab testing, became an FDM 97 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,840 practitioner. And then kind of the rest goes, 98 00:04:55,840 --> 00:04:59,640 I was sober for, you know, good chunk of time, 13 years and then 99 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,120 relapse and the mommy wine culture. 100 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,560 And, you know, I think we'll dive into a little bit of all 101 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,720 that. But yeah, but it's what I do. 102 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,080 Amazing. This might be majoring on the 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,120 minor but I am kind of curious in your story. 104 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:14,160 So why meth and why not coke if you're looking for, you know, 105 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:16,880 weight loss and energy? Oh, I hated cocaine. 106 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:18,240 OK. I hated it. 107 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,640 I would get like super edgy and like paranoid and I felt like I 108 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:24,480 was crawling out of my skin. And I'm not like saying, Hey, go 109 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,080 do meth, but it's like all the bad things from cocaine to me or 110 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:33,080 like removed when I did meth, it was just like very, I just felt 111 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,400 normal and, and cocaine didn't give me that. 112 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,640 The only reason I ever did cocaine was to help me not black 113 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,520 out when I would be drinking. But when I started doing meth, I 114 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,000 also started doing GHB, which is basically like drinking without 115 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,840 all the bad stuff. With drinking. 116 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,760 I mean, there's other bad stuff. It's amazing. 117 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,880 Sure, because drugs, I mean, you know, just I mean, this is an 118 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,440 addict. You're talking to an addict. 119 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:59,680 So my mind is the the rationale. Not always spot on, but yeah. 120 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:01,920 It is interesting with addiction, though, I feel like 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,840 you said something really poignant. 122 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:07,080 You're like, my brain felt like I was working for the first 123 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,400 time, you know? And your gut started, you know, 124 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,200 started having differences with your gut and your energy. 125 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:17,720 And I think there's a lot to it where people are kind of driven 126 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,920 to seek out substances that help them feel normal when they're 127 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:24,480 imbalanced, right 01. 100% whether it's trauma, I mean, 128 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,400 there's so many people are, you know, using because of trauma 129 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,160 and mental emotional stuff that they just don't have the 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,280 capacity or their parents don't know to like really give them 131 00:06:32,280 --> 00:06:34,200 the help that they need because maybe it's something that's 132 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,800 happening within the family. You know, that's my relapse. 133 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,320 So my relapse was basically like, I couldn't take on any 134 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,800 more emotional like baggage, like my pot was full. 135 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,520 I was dealing with infidelity, a divorce, a baby. 136 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,760 I, I'm an entrepreneur. I wasn't really working. 137 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,280 I'm not like the Super stay at home mom type at all. 138 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,000 That's why I was smiling earlier when you said that. 139 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:56,680 I was like, no way, she's got 4 kids. 140 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,080 You guys don't know. And, and so for me, my bucket 141 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,760 was super full and it didn't matter how much functional lab 142 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,400 testing and stuff I did. And that's when I like, I mean, 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:09,000 I, I was OK drinking for a little bit, but then it just 144 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,240 got, it got to be like I couldn't cope. 145 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,120 I couldn't cope and I drank a lot and I would drink every day 146 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,520 at 4:00. I'd have a bottle of gin a day 147 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,600 and I eventually it's just like I couldn't stop. 148 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,720 I know I couldn't stop. Or it'd be like potato vodka. 149 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,960 Or it'd be derived from grapes like because it has the. 150 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,400 Healthy vodka. The healthy shit, right, because 151 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,920 I was still doing what I did, but like I knew it got bad when 152 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,520 I started like buying like just shit vodka or like any of the 153 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:36,360 airplane bottles. Like in the end, like in the 154 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,440 very end, it's just like anything. 155 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:40,880 That's when I knew like it's just and I couldn't like I 156 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,600 remember I was automating my business and none of it made 157 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,080 sense. Like I couldn't even like figure 158 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,960 out any of it. And I'm really, I think I'm 159 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,880 pretty, I'm pretty session. I am smart and I couldn't do it. 160 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:53,960 And I was like this stuff's like the fog. 161 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:56,680 I couldn't get through it and then I just couldn't stop so. 162 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,800 So what made you stop? What was the turning point? 163 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,800 So I would say that at this point I was going to a, a 164 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,560 meetings, I was meeting with sponsor, I was doing, I was 165 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,720 doing everything and I just, I didn't realize how much of the 166 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,520 physical part that I was like dealing with. 167 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,520 So I think I was having physical detoxes every day around then 168 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,600 and that that's why I had a drink. 169 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,240 I wasn't like getting the shakes or anything like that, but I 170 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,200 think that's a big part of it. But I had gotten into a so I 171 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,040 prayed to God. This is all I can think. 172 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,200 I was, I prayed to God for a guy who was 6 feet tall, covered in 173 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,000 tattoos, right? And had a kid and was sober and 174 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,120 I met him at a birthday party the next day and he was just 175 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,080 super like, I don't think we'd ever be together today. 176 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,720 Like no way. But he was so loving and so 177 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,880 sweet and it was just different than anything I had. 178 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,320 And he was so hot to me. It was just like the perfect 179 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,880 package. And we started dating and I, he 180 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,680 knew about 1 relapse and then I was good for a while. 181 00:08:47,680 --> 00:08:50,080 And then I, I started like, you know, lying about it. 182 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,480 And then I told him about another one and he's like, I 183 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,040 mean, we had a conversation like I love you, I love you. 184 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,680 It's just so sad. Like I, I gotta go, you know, he 185 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,720 and he left and I've literally never seen him nothing. 186 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,400 And so I think that for me, that was my bottom is that through 187 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:09,200 all my shit with prison and drug addiction and my family and my 188 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000 friends in LA and I never lost anyone. 189 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,680 Like I never really lost a human being where they're like, you 190 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,680 are so messed up that I can't even be around you. 191 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,200 Like I can't, I don't want my child exposed to you. 192 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Like you're, you're that. And this is coming from someone 193 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,800 who is sober too who understands it. 194 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,760 Addiction was like basically like, you're so disgusting that 195 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:29,440 I cannot have you around my child. 196 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,880 It's how my mind heard it. And then I just, I haven't even 197 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,800 thought about it since. I have not even thought about 198 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,520 it. And it felt so I remember it 199 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,080 felt so good. It was so painful, but it felt 200 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,280 so good to me to just be able to feel again. 201 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,440 And I just sat in it. I just sat in it and it was 202 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,960 rough. Like I'd be on Zoom calls and 203 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,800 I've turned the video off and just be like that, you know, 204 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:50,960 like snot crying. But yeah, so. 205 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,160 Tell me a little bit about that faith component. 206 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,560 You said you prayed and the next day you had the man of your 207 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:59,040 dream show up at a party. So what does that look like 208 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,480 right now? Oh my gosh, I'm like, I'll have 209 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,720 to add you to my group. So I have, I'm, I see universal 210 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,000 signs now left and right. And you'll say, you'll hear that 211 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,360 maybe from a lot of people who go from like a dark place to 212 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,960 something better that like I believe there's a higher power 213 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:13,640 or God or whatever you want to call it. 214 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,080 Like I had a bat mitzvah at 41, you know, but like the Angel 215 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,520 numbers, like when I see Angel numbers all day, like that's the 216 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:22,520 universe telling me like good shit's happening. 217 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:24,600 You're doing the right thing. Just little signs. 218 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,480 I'm super woo woo and I'm getting more and more woo woo 219 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,520 like every freaking week. I feel like like I read, I don't 220 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:32,800 know, oh, here there, like I have these like words of wisdom 221 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,440 cards that I do and I like started making my clients do it 222 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,760 on the calls. And then like I saw. 223 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,000 So what really happened? That was a major shift and it 224 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,800 didn't matter what peptides I was taking. 225 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,760 It didn't matter what labs I was taking. 226 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,520 Is I I finally realized like like my nervous system, like I 227 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:50,840 started a cold plunge contrast therapy company because I 228 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,840 thought that was going to be the solution because talk therapy 229 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,520 wasn't working, because I still felt really dysregulated. 230 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,240 Like I felt like something like there's a reason why my hormones 231 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:01,280 aren't getting better and it's I couldn't outs I couldn't out 232 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,760 peptide and I just I could feel I was getting more and more 233 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,800 where I could feel my nervous system couldn't do what he needs 234 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,600 to do. And I did an event in this guy. 235 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,240 This astrologist was like, you need to go to womb healer. 236 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,560 Oh, do I? Come again, a womb. 237 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:18,520 Healer and I was like, what the fuck is a womb healer? 238 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:22,200 I was like, OK, well I have been a little promiscuous in my like 239 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,760 relapse and maybe you sleep something like that. 240 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,480 Like I don't know. He's like, no, you just go. 241 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:30,040 And I was like, all right. So I went and it's basically 242 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,960 like a healer that can do Reiki and energy work and all the 243 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,360 things that it just happened to be called a womb healer. 244 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,480 And that's probably what like got me to go. 245 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,800 It's just the fact that the womb word was in there. 246 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,480 It was so intriguing and it's changed my life, completely 247 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,160 changed my life. Everything just started to fall 248 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,640 into place the second I started seeing her. 249 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:48,400 So that was like the final piece. 250 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Like it wasn't. I mean the peptides really help 251 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,560 for sure. For sure. 252 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:54,480 And I want to transition into that too. 253 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,600 So I mean, that's a new thing. I mean, womb healing's one 254 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,200 thing, let's be honest, like, right. 255 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,560 But for a lot of us, peptide sounded just as out there when 256 00:12:03,560 --> 00:12:04,960 we first started hearing about them. 257 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,000 So what was your introduction into the peptide space? 258 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,840 So I have had so we call it wreckage of the past in in 259 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,120 recovery. And so my teeth were shit Joe 260 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,040 and it I don't, I don't know if it's because I everyone's always 261 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,000 like, what is it from? And I'm like, well, I was a 262 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,280 mouth breather. I had a deviated septum. 263 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,320 I smoked meth. I so I mean, it could be the 264 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:30,320 meth, but my dad has bad teeth. But you know, when your mouth 265 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,560 breather, you also like in a deviated septum, like you, your 266 00:12:33,560 --> 00:12:35,440 teeth are going to be a little bit less. 267 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,920 The integrity of them is going to go down when you're younger 268 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:41,120 because they dry out so much. And I never had sugar growing 269 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:43,080 up. So super healthy mom kind of 270 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,800 crunchy and I started eating a lot of sugar. 271 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,480 But anyway, Fast forward, I got really, really sick to the point 272 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,960 where like I felt like I had a sinus infection, like the worst 273 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,560 one in the world. Like I could barely get out of 274 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:55,760 bed and I was taking antibiotics and I would feel better. 275 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,960 But then I get sick again and I went to a hyperbaric chamber and 276 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:03,080 my whole like jaw blew up. And so basically it was just 277 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:08,120 from the past three years. It was like a catalyst of broken 278 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,560 teeth, you know, tooth infections. 279 00:13:10,680 --> 00:13:13,360 I pulled out 10 teeth. I pulled out 10 root canal 280 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,560 teeth. I did redid my deviated septum 281 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,400 surgery. I you know, I mean, I was so 282 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,360 sick, I would take I was on antibiotics more than I was off 283 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,400 them for two years. And I kept being like, I know 284 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:24,880 how to fix it, Like I know how to fix it. 285 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:26,360 I'm an FDN, like I know how to fix it. 286 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,480 I can fix it. That like this is I couldn't 287 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,160 take care of my kid and I basically had no teeth. 288 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,360 I don't even know if I'm video from I just had like my front 289 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,640 couple teeth and then nothing in the back. 290 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:38,520 And then I pulled out all my bottom left. 291 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,400 So my whole bottom left side was gone. 292 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,440 And then I started working on my right side And when I started 293 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,760 working on my right side, I just wasn't healing and I was like, 294 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,880 well, what is this BPC Wolverine? 295 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:50,760 Like people are just kind of talking about it, right? 296 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,440 And I ordered a bunch and I just started injecting it into my 297 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,640 gums. Like I had no idea what I was 298 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,040 doing. And I was like at this point, 299 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,600 like I mean, before that I was drinking chlorine dioxide, which 300 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,520 is basically bleach. Like I was trying everything 301 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:05,320 right there is there's a whole thing to that. 302 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:06,720 You Google it. I've used it. 303 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,160 I've used it. OK, OK. 304 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,000 Thank you. No, is it MMS? 305 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:11,760 No MMS, right? Right. 306 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,760 It's like, I was like, I can't believe I'm doing this. 307 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,640 So Ethan with Oxford Medical Ethan, who used to work for our 308 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,520 food sensitivity test company that we both probably used. 309 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,160 Yep, he recommended it. And I was like, whatever, you 310 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,120 know? But anyway, I started injecting 311 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:28,760 it into my gums and within the first injection, the 312 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,160 inflammation and like my sinuses and under my eyes were always 313 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:34,400 just like really puffy. It was gone within a minute. 314 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:37,520 And I was like, oh, OK. Like I had my face kind of back 315 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,040 and then I just started at that point I think I had just gotten 316 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,840 another pull. I hadn't pulled them all out 317 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,280 yet, but I had another pull and I think I was doing one of my 318 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,240 implants and I just started injecting it, injecting it, 319 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,680 injecting it. And then I was like, well, maybe 320 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,200 I'll do some like go to Thion with it. 321 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:52,960 I probably need some nid, you know. 322 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:56,720 And I just sort of started building these stacks as we call 323 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,680 it. And I was getting better faster 324 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,840 and feeling a little more normal. 325 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,400 And I think the icing on the cake is like, I went into my 2 326 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:10,200 dentists after I had bone graft and they were gonna have to do 327 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,320 like this whole membrane surgery and another graft on there. 328 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,160 And they each thought that I went to the other doctor, had 329 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,240 more bone grafting, did membrane surgeries. 330 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,440 Like they couldn't even believe it. 331 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,960 But like an implant usually takes about 3 months before you 332 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,080 can put a crown on it. And it was done in a month and a 333 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:27,680 half. And they thought and my bone 334 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,360 grafting and all the, all the healing on the bottom totally 335 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:31,800 good. I didn't have to do the surgery 336 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:33,200 for the membrane. And I was like, all right. 337 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,040 And then I just started injecting myself and taking 338 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,000 every peptide you can imagine. I was sold. 339 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,400 It was a I was a right there. It's very interesting too with, 340 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,160 I mean those infections being concentrated in your mouth. 341 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,120 I don't know if you watched the video from Cell Core. 342 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,520 It's one of their chiropractors was talking about focal 343 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:55,480 infections above the neck and how insidious these infections 344 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,360 can be because that your mucous membranes in your mouth are so 345 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,800 permeable and those infections can get lodged in the gums and 346 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:04,640 under the teeth. And you can do round after round 347 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,120 parasite cleansing and, you know, antimicrobials. 348 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,120 And if they're stuck in the gums, in the teeth, it's going 349 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,240 to be impossible to clear all that out of your body. 350 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,920 Well, I had this like chronic like what felt like a big loogie 351 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,560 sort of in my sinuses and I had so I did a full, I also did a 352 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,560 full last November, not this November, but last I did a full 353 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,080 deviated septum surgery. They went, they removed it and 354 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,520 they were just like I was like no better. 355 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:32,040 And the day after the surgery I went and had a molar pulled out. 356 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,880 Literally the tooth just like came out of my jaw. 357 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:37,320 But I just kept having this like pain and I was like, it's this 358 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,480 tooth over here. There's a referral pain because 359 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,520 I was a trainer for 20 years. I'm like, there has to be like 360 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,560 cross referral just like in the back, like something from over 361 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,360 here is going over here and that because nothing is working. 362 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,360 And I mean, I would Nettie everything. 363 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,560 I pulled that tooth and everything went away. 364 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,880 My last root canal came out and everything went away because 365 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:55,960 root canals at the end of a root canal, you typically get an 366 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,760 infection. The last pull of my bio dentist 367 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:00,720 it was I was like fine I was doing. 368 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,119 Like scopes or tests on on teeth like they do on breast implants. 369 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:06,680 Can you tell like? Is there? 370 00:17:06,839 --> 00:17:09,280 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So I did cavitations at one 371 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,079 point where they go in to like where your wisdom teeth are and 372 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,200 basically what can happen. They can like look on these 373 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,359 combine scans, but this what happens is that bone becomes 374 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,960 what kind of like spongy, like rotten wood and they go in, they 375 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,599 scrape it out and then they test that and they test for like lime 376 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:27,920 and parasites and all. And I mean every single thing 377 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,040 came up as red. They never really went over it 378 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:31,960 with me. Like, you know, I mean like I'm 379 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,280 trying to, I was trying so hard to like, let me work for you 380 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,440 guys, Like I'm telling you, you need to do what I do, but I 381 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,240 never and I always every once in a while like comes full circle 382 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:40,160 back. I'm like, I should probably 383 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:42,000 figure out what that was, but it was like I had everything. 384 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,240 It was like strep lime and I'm like, I just, I think I was just 385 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,400 that capacity and I was like, I don't want to know. 386 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,080 Like there's nothing I can. I'm literally ripping teeth out 387 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:51,200 of my mouth. But yeah. 388 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,480 And how that is crazy. I told you when we first talked, 389 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,960 that's like the recurring nightmare I used to have as a 390 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,760 kid is I would bite my own teeth out one by one and I'd wake up 391 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,480 and it was such a real nightmare. 392 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,320 Like I thought there were holes in my gums. 393 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,920 It felt so real. I can't believe how like 394 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,480 normalized it became. I'd just go in to just have them 395 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,320 look at it too. Then I'd be like, just just pull 396 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,440 it. They're like, Are you sure? 397 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,040 I'm like, I don't know what I don't know. 398 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,200 I was so sick. I didn't even my quality of your 399 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,440 life was horrible and I was like, well, this helps to get 400 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,280 better. I can always just put an implant 401 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,600 in and a crown at this point. Absolutely. 402 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,720 I just was not afraid of it. By the time I I just wanted to 403 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:31,920 get better. And So what did that healing 404 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 trajectory look like for you? Did it work? 405 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,680 Yeah, yeah, I just got 4 crowns. I just have one more crown that 406 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,240 I need to put on an implant. But yeah. 407 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,040 So after that, like once I started feeling better, it was 408 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,560 go time. Like I was seeing my womb healer 409 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,800 and I that's when I just sort of fully integrated. 410 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,480 I got really took a deep dive and did every certification you 411 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,200 cut on like peptides. I was like, I got to figure out 412 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,560 how to pull this into my practice. 413 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,160 Like there's no way that I'm not going to be able to utilize 414 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,160 these tools. Like there's no way. 415 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,880 And I started integrating them with my clients. 416 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:08,320 Even, you know, I have PCOS. So I tried Retta and Oh my God, 417 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,120 it was like, you know, all the podcasts people you interview. 418 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,600 It was just like a little miracle I had put on. 419 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,000 Like I mean, I, I was so sick for like 3 years. 420 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,920 Like I'm, I'm always like $1.10 right? 421 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,560 And I was not a buck. I was probably 125 lbs couldn't 422 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:26,800 get it off it within like one month of doing like a good stack 423 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,720 of like Wolverine, Tessa and Retta in like probably one month 424 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,120 for me all leveled out like completely. 425 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:35,920 It just, you know what I mean? You I was like every day I wake 426 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,120 up and I would have like tears, like a tear. 427 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,600 I'd be like, I feel like I'm walking on water. 428 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,920 Like where has this been all my whole life? 429 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,320 Like, I mean, I like to think this is like I'm walking on 430 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,280 water, like, Oh my God, I'm like the Ben Green feels like I can 431 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,440 feel my cells healing on a cellular level. 432 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,280 Like all you biohacking guys talk about all this shit. 433 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,040 You feel like I've never felt it. 434 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,200 Like I just keep doing it. Like I just do, you know? 435 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,400 And like I was able to integrate it. 436 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,040 My clients were getting better results. 437 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,840 They were like, you know, I mean, even like my mom, I got, 438 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,600 she came by one day and was like, my back hurts. 439 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,160 I'm like just got a little Wolverine. 440 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,520 And like next thing she knows, she's like, I need more. 441 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,480 She's like my RA, like everything is better, you know? 442 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,920 And so I took a deep dive and. Yeah. 443 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,000 And so I started, I work with a lot of people in recovery. 444 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,320 So nad you know, glutathione, all those things are really, 445 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,560 really great to start integrating in after like 30 446 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,720 days or more of sobriety, a lot of people. 447 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:30,160 So that's a big part. It's like a lot of people get 448 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:32,040 sober, but they don't feel better. 449 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,360 So like, how are we getting Like I do the gut and the nutrition 450 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,440 and I build programs, but I integrate the peptides and it's 451 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,680 just, you know, there is a miracle. 452 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,120 And then I do it a lot with gut health. 453 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,720 I love like I geek out on like the chronic illness stuff with 454 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,360 peptides. 100% And that's kind of what I want to talk about 455 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:51,760 too. I mean, you've got a unique 456 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:55,440 subset of clients who are in recovery and also are 457 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,080 experiencing chronic illness. And I just can't help but 458 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,560 thinking about that link between those two things. 459 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,480 Just, it's so prevalent in your story and probably you see it 460 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,160 playing out like over and over and over again. 461 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:11,960 When you feel terrible, you take risks with your health, right? 462 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,160 Like there if something makes you feel better for a time. 463 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,200 I know this personally too. You know, you're definitely 464 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,840 going to be more open to that. And I think that with addiction, 465 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760 it just spirals like you don't realize it's getting worse and 466 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,000 getting worse and your dependency is getting greater 467 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,480 because you know, you're just, you're walking down that path 468 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:30,800 and you don't really see a way back. 469 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,920 And So what does that look like for you working with people in 470 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,040 recovery and then chronic illness to how does peptides fit 471 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,320 into that? So for me, yeah. 472 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:43,400 So I do think that, like, I mean, you'll hear people who are 473 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,120 in chronic back pain and then they get addicted to, you know, 474 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:49,560 pain meds or I think a big part of my drinking was like, after I 475 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,240 had my kid, like, my PCOS was just on fire. 476 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,280 Like, I didn't have that. Like, oh, it reset my whole 477 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,160 thyroid. And I'm feel fucking amazing. 478 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,840 Like, I didn't get that. And so for me, the drinking took 479 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,520 me out of what I've been battling with since 2000, 9, 480 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,440 when I decided to save money on lab testing and become an FPM 481 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,920 pregnant. But the chronic illness, it's 482 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,480 something like because people come in and they get late, 483 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,040 they're layered. So it's going to be like Lyme 484 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,200 mast cell, Hashimoto's. And typically you're not having 485 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,960 one when you come in and you're dealing with chronic illness. 486 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,160 So like, what are you going to do? 487 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,560 And that's when it gets really important to work with a 488 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,600 practitioner with peptide. So I have some clients where 489 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,360 like you can't even give them peptide. 490 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 BPC will fire them up like they'll be fired up. 491 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,040 They can't even do it. Like it is not anything like 492 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:38,840 just, you know, the average Joe who can, who can go take 493 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Wolverine. You'll try to give them KPV, 494 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,200 which is really good for mast cell and like bringing the 495 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,920 system down. They can't even do it like I 496 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:49,200 have them literally like tap the needle into the peptide and do 497 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:51,120 like a finger prick until they can do it. 498 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,040 So one that I was just it was like the miracle for the people 499 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,200 who have like just just an overload system. 500 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,880 They got to get the immune system like regulated. 501 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,120 They can't even take the supplements that we would give 502 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:04,360 them because they're just too many herbs. 503 00:23:04,360 --> 00:23:06,240 Like it's, it's like they can't even do that. 504 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,480 They get stomach aches or gas or diarrhea. 505 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,640 And so I started using lorazepide, which is really 506 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,400 cool. So I start typically I'll start 507 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,120 with that and see how they do. And that just fills the tight 508 00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:18,960 junctions really well and the gut and leaky gut. 509 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,280 So you fill those so everything isn't so leaky. 510 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,160 So you start with that and then you can slowly like integrate 511 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:29,320 like thymus and A1 or the, and then add in, you know, KPV 512 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,320 slowly, like really slow. So they don't get like a mast 513 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,840 cell, for example, like if someone's doing tessamolin and 514 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,960 epimolin or CJC and they get that like mast cell activation. 515 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,760 It's not the peptide, it's your body's way of telling you either 516 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,560 your estrogen's too high, your, you know, immune systems on 517 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,920 overload. And so I will add in the KPV and 518 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,360 then eventually we can do a little bit of the like BPC and 519 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,320 TB and calm them down. And then we can kind of go like 520 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,280 once we get that all stabilized, then we can start adding in like 521 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,320 other supplements if we need to, if we know they have parasites, 522 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,360 we can maybe start working on something like that. 523 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:05,560 But those are great just like kind of get get you going. 524 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,240 LL37 is a good one for the end of like I love it for the end of 525 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960 a gut protocol. I say it's like a squeegee. 526 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,720 It's like the antimicrobial, like, I don't know, I just 527 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:17,640 picture a squeegee just like squeezing out like the biofilm. 528 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,560 And then, you know, because you really don't want to do a ton of 529 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:23,720 Wolverine or the BBC and TV because what can happen is if 530 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,520 you have like SIBO, it'll weed it in to that gut lining when 531 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,480 you're trying to heal it. So it's just shit that people 532 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,160 don't know. Like that's why the direct to 533 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,400 consumer stuff so freaking scary. 534 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,280 I'm testing all these like bigwig like dude, peptide guys, 535 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,120 you know, peptides and then they're doing the secretive gods 536 00:24:41,120 --> 00:24:42,600 and they're like they talk like this. 537 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,480 They have beards and and so I'm testing all of them. 538 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,120 I'm like kind of like gotten in with them. 539 00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:48,960 I mean I love that. I love listening to them. 540 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,240 I love their voices. I love everything they say, but 541 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,040 I I started running GI panels on these guys. 542 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:58,480 I mean it is so bad. Like it's multi infection guts 543 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,400 like it's not it's like a parasite. 544 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,400 Candida yeast and they probably SIBO if we haven't tested for it 545 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:04,280 yet. All of them. 546 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,160 Are you saying that since they weren't using peptides properly, 547 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,080 they open their gut to become more infected? 548 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:11,920 Or are you saying these infections were there to begin 549 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,120 with and the peptides that they were? 550 00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:15,800 Trying to they were probably there Yeah, OK, they were 551 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,960 probably there. They just they think peptides 552 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,520 are it and they aren't. You have to build a program like 553 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,160 peptides are amazing, you know, tool in your our toolbox, but 554 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,920 they are not gonna like kill a parasite No like just not no, I 555 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,120 mean you have every one of my peptides clients. 556 00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,200 I run AGI panel. OK, for sure. 557 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:36,960 So walk me through that. What does that look like with 558 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,960 your clients? So for me, I'm real psycho about 559 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,000 doing GI panels because I learned the hard way, thousands 560 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,800 and thousands of dollars. I was like when I first got into 561 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,680 FDN, very beginning. So FDN at that point was doing 562 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,440 like a one day school test with some company assignment open 563 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,720 anymore. And that was in like 2009 or 10. 564 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,920 And I just kept coming back negative. 565 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,320 And I was like, I don't know man. 566 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,880 I know I have something like it was like chronic diarrhea. 567 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,480 Like I just couldn't get better. And then I decided to do 568 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,080 multiple days. So what I did was a biofilm 569 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,960 protocol. So I broke down the biofilm in 570 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,600 my gut with, you know, therapies or interface first. 571 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,000 So once I broke it. Back interfaith, right? 572 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,560 And then we and then we broke it down and then I tested for six 573 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,880 days during the full moon when parasites breed and I came back 574 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,760 with two parasite. And so that's how I totally 575 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,320 changed my way of testing. And I think like I get a lot of 576 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,720 referrals from people who have done a lot of GI maps, a lot of 577 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,720 testing with functional practitioners. 578 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,720 And they're like, no, I did it, it's fine. 579 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,280 No, I'm good. I didn't do and I'm like, you're 580 00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,680 gonna do it again. Like I'm sorry, but like, I'll, 581 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,560 I'll, I'd rather like skip like the Dutch panel and have you 582 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,200 just get blood work and then do this GI panel again. 583 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:47,000 And every time it's almost worse than just one of my normal 584 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,000 clients. Crazy. 585 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,880 But you're busting the biofilms before you go in and do the six 586 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,840 day test, right? Yeah, like 2 week protocol of 587 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,400 interface. I do 4 weeks so I build it. 588 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,800 OK, so week 1 is 2 pills twice a day, empty stomach, and then 589 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,880 Week 2 you go up and then yeah. So funny too, just hearing you 590 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,840 explain this. I mean, especially for people 591 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,040 who have chronic illness, it's been a long time that they've 592 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,280 been feeling this way, right? And everyone does want a quick 593 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,600 fix. And I feel like that's why 594 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,920 peptide, one of the reasons why peptides are just like swelling 595 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:16,880 right now, because you do see results. 596 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,600 If you're relatively healthy, you do see results fairly 597 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,000 quickly. But if your case is a little bit 598 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,320 more complex, like you have to be willing to put in the time, 599 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,520 You have to be willing to put in the expense. 600 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,480 This isn't like buying shitty research peptides tides off of 601 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,720 like you know, US peptides.com or whatever. 602 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,520 It's like running the right labs, spending four weeks 603 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,520 busting your biofilms before running a six day stool test. 604 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,720 Like sometimes that is what needs to happen for people to 605 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,360 really heal and not just mask their symptoms. 606 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Yeah, and I think too, like as you know, like you can't skip 607 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,200 hormones with at least with women, Like you just can't like. 608 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520 Absolutely not for. Me like I do Tessa. 609 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,560 I was good on Tessa and I did some and like Mass so totally 610 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,120 blew up. I'm like OK. 611 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,360 And so then I went, my blood work done, my estrogen was super 612 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:04,920 high. So it's like the two hand in 613 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,720 hand and I'm like, OK, so like I was, I was not addressing 614 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,280 hormones. And that's just personally for 615 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,760 me. But like I won't give anybody. 616 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,720 I'm mean by giving people ride a true tie. 617 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,880 Like I'm like, I'm not going to give you any until I know like I 618 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,880 need to see food logs. You need to do this and you have 619 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,640 to run some sort of hormone panel because you can't like 620 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,640 peptides aren't going to really fix hormones. 621 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,200 I mean, after having a baby and you do kisspeptin or something 622 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,440 like that. But like I do that do integrate 623 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,840 bio regulators. I do a lot of bio regulators 624 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,600 too. A little bit not a time. 625 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,600 I haven't seen a lot of of change with bio regulators. 626 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,560 I use them quite a bit in my own protocol. 627 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,680 And I mean, I'm pretty healthy and so I'm not expecting to see 628 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,960 a huge change, but I was expecting to see a little bit 629 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,240 more of a change, you know, working on my pineal gland, my 630 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,960 epithelia like cells. And I don't know, I'm open. 631 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,960 To it injectable or. Injectable. 632 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,600 OK, I think the. Injectables are better, but I So 633 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,280 what I'm seeing is there's some really good ones for like 634 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,320 thyroid and you do, you can do like the thyroid bioregulator, 635 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,280 but then you add in there's another one, it's thyroid PEP or 636 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,240 some I don't even know, I can tell you later. 637 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:11,080 But doing the two of those, I've actually seen my people with 638 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,400 Hashimoto's come back with like almost like they're completely 639 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:17,120 in remission, like perfect labs and everything just after doing 640 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,040 that. That is very interesting, all 641 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,480 right. Do more than one cycle with that 642 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,080 though. So sometimes it's like they're 643 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,920 like you only just have to do it once or twice a twice a year. 644 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,720 These 20 capsules, it's crazy. So I don't know. 645 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,280 There is a difference too, I think with, I mean, my client 646 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,360 population I work with are hormonally off midlife women, 647 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,360 right? And so when I run them through 648 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,680 my full protocol, like my actual program, we do a lot of work on 649 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,640 nutrition and diet, anti-inflammatory eating. 650 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,000 And so my women lose on average 20.3 lbs without peptides. 651 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,440 And I'm seeing like, yeah, it's all my daddy girl. 652 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:55,680 I got all my data. 20.3 lbs. OK, like I guess I'm by doing 653 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,080 over here. Also, you know that that is 654 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,160 without peptides and I'm seeing like my women's Hashimoto's 655 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,840 markers come down, their anti antibodies come down, like their 656 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,440 hormones starting to regulate. Obviously like adding in hormone 657 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,280 replacement therapy is huge for my women too. 658 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,720 And FDN teaches us to do so much with over the counter, you know, 659 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,360 really like not really hormone replacement therapy, but like 660 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,840 hormone regulation. And that took me very far to a 661 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,520 point. And then all my women hit 662 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,440 perimenopause and I was like, oh shit, we need to bring in the 663 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,280 big guns. And so actually. 664 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,440 I went through it. Yeah, I did too. 665 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,680 I did too. I mean, I was. 666 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,000 Like ain't gonna solve this. No, no, no, no. 667 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,560 Yeah. I was like, OK, now these jeans 668 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,480 don't fit. Like, yeah, I don't know what's 669 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,840 happening. Like, this is insane. 670 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,760 Why am I sweating? Like I just had a child at 671 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,480 night? Like, it was just crazy. 672 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,920 And if you're not drinking too, like, those things shouldn't be 673 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:47,320 happening. But I will say like as far as 674 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,920 like when I work with people, like I talk about alcohol and 675 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,400 that's the biggest thing is like if you're drinking with peptides 676 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,560 or drinking and trying to like go perimenopause, like it is not 677 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,640 a good combo. Even if it's one drink, like 678 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,320 Nope, good luck. Like it's not. 679 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160 It's hard like. It is definitely hard, although 680 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:07,000 I do feel like so now it's been what like last NN2024 I started 681 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,160 I went through two years of 0 alcohol like I went through like 682 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,880 you know, but basically being too, too dependent on alcohol. 683 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,920 So hired a sober coach and didn't touch one drop for two 684 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,960 years and then tore my calf muscle in a pickleball 685 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:23,880 tournament and decided that was the day I was going to start 686 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,200 drinking again. It was great for the day but 687 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,680 didn't work out well long term. Right. 688 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,520 I will say that it used to be such a big pull for me. 689 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,160 I think my brain kind of needed it. 690 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:35,800 Like my body kind of needed it to shut off. 691 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:39,360 My brain shut off like all the like excitatory stuff that's 692 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,160 going on. Like in my body, I just needed 693 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:45,280 something to chill out. But I have noticed that after, 694 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,440 you know, over a year on peptides like I I really don't 695 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,480 like I don't look to it anymore. Now I do pop nicotine pouches. 696 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,760 All right, I will say that, but. You know, that's supposed to be 697 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,680 really good for long COVID. I absolutely do know that, and 698 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,360 it's supposed to dissolve microplastics in the body, which 699 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,080 is one of the reasons I started. Which brand do you get? 700 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,520 I thought there's like microplastics. 701 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,880 I mean, I just get, I go the tobacco shop and I buy Zins so I 702 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,880 know there's better. Bad. 703 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,640 They probably are, but I talked. To Ben Greenfield or one of 704 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,360 those guys, I'm sure they have like some fucking. 705 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,880 Yeah, Ben Greenfield, why don't you come on my podcast and talk 706 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,680 about nicotine pouches, OK? This is an open invitation. 707 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,320 OK, OK, let's get back to you then. 708 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,680 Let's get back to you. So, you know, talking about GI 709 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,280 panels, talking about this, My, my whole point was just that 710 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,880 like we talk about foundations on this podcast all the time. 711 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,800 And I think it's really important just to reiterate, 712 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,680 like you as an FDN, it's not like you're just going straight 713 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,520 into peptides or hormone replacement therapy. 714 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,120 Like you're doing all the functional lab work. 715 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,880 You're doing the foundations of diet, rest, exercise, stress 716 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,960 management, probably adding in targeted supplements too. 717 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,120 And then, you know, taking things to the next level is when 718 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,480 you're layering in these these newer therapies, right? 719 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,080 Yep, Yep. And I, I even just hit a post 720 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,120 like I do a lot of old school shit too. 721 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,400 Like I, I do both like it just depends on the person. 722 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,400 But like I think Castor oil packs are fired. 723 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,120 I think they're amazing. I I think they work great. 724 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,880 I love them. Like sometimes you just forget 725 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,760 like that, like go for a damn walk and like put your face in 726 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:15,400 the sun. Like, I mean, I could push 727 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,120 peptides all day, but like if you don't do some of these 728 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,280 others, like there's so many things you just blend them. 729 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,560 So it's always like the new school and the old school, like 730 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,320 just blend them. But it's it's about that's why 731 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,800 you and I are. We have the clientele that we 732 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,360 have is because we're building programs and we're not just like 733 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,240 pushing peptide, you know, at all. 734 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,480 We're not peptide sales Rep you. Know it is funny that you say 735 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,720 that it also it's funny like your, your, your story and my 736 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,160 story a little bit. I also used to be a drug 737 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,000 salesperson. I just worked for Abbott 738 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,040 Laboratory. So I tell people like I used to 739 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,280 sell drugs. It is where I'm I learned how to 740 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,200 sell drugs very young, but I mean, I goes back to like, I 741 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,720 remember like setting up shop in my parents front yard with like 742 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:01,400 candy and lemonade and like girl, I would, it wasn't just a 743 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,200 lemonade stand. It was like a whole like candy 744 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,560 store, like you name it. I would go use their money, buy 745 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,000 all this stuff and then resell it like just so like, you know, 746 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,080 like for double the price. It's. 747 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,760 Just like, it's so funny. That entrepreneur like you 748 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,679 either got it or you don't. Like, I just opened a business, 749 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,800 you know, another what? My cold plunge business. 750 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,880 And it was like I had some staff and it was like they think they 751 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,800 are like you just you just either do it or you don't and 752 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,360 you don't complain about it. Like, yeah, I mean, yeah, I work 753 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,679 seven days a week, have time. But like, it's just it comes 754 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:35,840 naturally to you. And it's interesting because my 755 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,159 brother's actually an entrepreneur. 756 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,080 My mom sort of is like dad, definitely not. 757 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,360 But you know, you either got it or you don't. 758 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,639 You do, you kind of come out of the womb that way. 759 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:45,880 It's funny that you stay alive too. 760 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,400 I mean, we got to talk more. I just remember, I remember 761 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,800 being like 8 years old with my Radio Flyer wagon after my 762 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,239 sisters and I had put little chunks of mistletoe into plastic 763 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,400 bags, tied them with cheap ribbon, and we're walking around 764 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,520 the neighborhood selling that mistletoe to our neighbors for 765 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,000 $0.25. That's the winter. 766 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,720 And in summer we're taking around lemons and selling them 767 00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,440 for $0.25. And I just think like, that was 768 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,440 just, that's just what I knew. Like that's who I've always been 769 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,080 you. Know it is it's like what you do 770 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,360 like I don't know I like I would make a lot of bone broth right 771 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,040 And then I just decided to start selling bone broth and then my 772 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,720 money went to having a child to do some infertility stuff. 773 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:26,800 But I was literally gonna buy this little like roundabout 774 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,280 coffee shop and I was gonna call it the bone brothel and just 775 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,360 sell bone broth. But now I just I literally, 776 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,120 literally it's like my side hustle in my fridge in my garage 777 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,240 and I will sell and I have freezers full of bone broth that 778 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,560 people just come and I'll spend $200 on bone broth. 779 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,800 The profit margin on that, it's like $20 to make 10 containers 780 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,080 that I sell for $15. All right, see, I mean there's 781 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,800 just there's no stopping it. We don't do things half assed 782 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,280 do. We, I'm a single mom, man. 783 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,040 I am a single mom, You know, I said 50 grand on my teeth. 784 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,760 I gotta figure it out. I don't even get to buy Gucci 785 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,560 bags. It all goes back into like me 786 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,920 just trying to stay alive, you know, or peptide. 787 00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Well, I know we're audio only on the podcast, but I will say your 788 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,040 teeth look really damn good. Yeah, way to go. 789 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,360 Now you tell me I showered for this ahead and wash my hair in 790 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,080 like 6. Days, it looks great. 791 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,560 One day our budget's going to be big enough for audio and visual, 792 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,840 but right now I think we're still under episode 40. 793 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,000 So hang in there and come back. Come back all. 794 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,600 Right, I'm coming back. Hey, I do want to talk about a 795 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,880 couple of other things real fast here. 796 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:31,960 You know, you brought up something interesting to me 797 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,560 before we hopped on. You were talking about genetic 798 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,240 mutations for GLP ones. If GLP ones are not working for 799 00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:42,200 people, they're a non responder. Of course you want to look at 800 00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,120 all of the lifestyle issues first, right? 801 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,720 Like I do have one guy who doesn't eat until dinner, Like 802 00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,120 he only eats one meal a day. I'm like, listen, this GLP 1 is 803 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,840 not going to work if you have historically been under eating, 804 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,560 I need you to eat breakfast and I need you to eat a small lunch 805 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,360 and then a really small dinner. And then let's integrate the GLP 806 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,800 1. And so he is one of the people 807 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,680 who is not responding because, you know, of dietary issues. 808 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:08,480 But that's different from single nucleotide polymorphism. 809 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,920 So let's talk about the snips and a little bit of that 810 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:15,040 information for people. So basically the Snips that are 811 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,080 being studied. So I had a client same thing. 812 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,400 Like I have a client who just it's like we've done everything 813 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680 like I don't even know. And I like lose sleep over it 814 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,360 because that's what we do. And it's so it's the genetic 815 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:29,680 SNPs that are studied are Rs 10305444 and then another one. 816 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,240 So basically what it does is it's just going to make you a 817 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,080 non responder to the GLP 1. So it's not going to slow down 818 00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,160 the gastric empty time. It's not going to do the dim the 819 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:40,720 food noise. It's not, you're not going to 820 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,000 have that weight, that fat loss that you're going to see from 821 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,280 people who are taking Tresiba. And I don't know if these 822 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,720 studies are tirzepatide or retitutide or what it is. 823 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,680 I'm just sort of digging into it because I just found this out. 824 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:55,040 So there's got to be some sort of like genetic thing where some 825 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,080 people aren't going to respond and there is. 826 00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,600 So I just, I don't know, like, you know, I could read a bunch 827 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,360 of stuff from ChatGPT and tell you all about it. 828 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,960 But but, but I just think it's something that's important. 829 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,520 Like if someone is worried about like, I mean, it's not like 830 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,280 Retta is not cheap or triseptide, whatever you're 831 00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,360 doing. So it's like before you go down 832 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:16,000 that path, maybe doing a genetic test to see if you have this, 833 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,280 you know, issue is important. You know, that issue that's kind 834 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,560 of negative. If you have a genetic SNP, you 835 00:38:21,720 --> 00:38:25,360 should see before you spend 450 bucks on a bottle of a GLP every 836 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,120 month. I mean, but the good thing is 837 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,080 like if you're working with a practitioner and you're building 838 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,160 out a program, you will know that there are other tools. 839 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,960 And so for me, I know now I can bring in like 5 amino, one MQ or 840 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,920 AOD or, you know, Sloop or pecifen. 841 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,440 So there's a lot of other peptides. 842 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,440 It's not like I'm speaking. I always laugh when I'm like 843 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,240 speaking. You get it. 844 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:49,320 I don't know if anyone else gets it, but these peptides are all 845 00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,200 like fat burners. They put you in a metabolic 846 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,080 state of exercise. There's other things you can do 847 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,240 to push the needle. If you are working with someone 848 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,040 that a lot of just you're not going to be able to go peptide 849 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,840 sciences and figure it out. Like you won't know you can go 850 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,680 order it. Have fun. 851 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,000 I mean, there's Tessa Moreland literally just burns your belly 852 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,120 fat, you know, just don't do it. If you have lime or mass cell 853 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,360 issues, check that. Out first. 854 00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,800 They're in the hard way. Or high estrogen, which is all 855 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,000 of them. I like this discussion 2 of 856 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,600 genetics, but I also think it's important to bring in 857 00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,440 epigenetics because we always say like genes are not our 858 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,360 destiny. And so even though, I mean, I 859 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,000 work with a lot of people with like MTHFR snips, right? 860 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,440 And so they're always like, I have MTHFR. 861 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,680 So I'm not going to be able to lose weight. 862 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,880 I'm not going to be able to detoxify my estrogen. 863 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,720 I'm like. Listen, just take a supplement. 864 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,440 It's. Hard If you keep eating you know 865 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:39,360 like no breakfast and drinking coffee in the morning and never 866 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160 seen the sun and you know cutting your calories to nothing 867 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,680 and over exercising yeah, you're going to have some problems with 868 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,680 your MTHF far. But if you can control your 869 00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:51,080 epigenetics so that you're getting sufficient protein and 870 00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,200 optimizing your circadian rhythm and dialing in your minerals and 871 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,560 getting sleep and Epsom salt baths, then that genetic 872 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:00,200 expression is going to look a little bit different than 873 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,920 somebody's got like a, a fully functioning SNP, right? 874 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,280 So I think it's important for. Two, I have it. 875 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,760 I, I didn't even really know, like I do too. 876 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,120 So I have it, but I'm always like high estrogen. 877 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,040 But then like I started doing all like. 878 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,480 So I was like testing my biological age because I thought 879 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,480 it was like 130 because of my mouth. 880 00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,200 And like, I just started running all these labs and I was like, 881 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,240 I'm gonna die. So I'm just gonna spend more 882 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:22,800 money on labs. Like this is me. 883 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,480 Like in that November when I was like, I'm just gonna die sick. 884 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,240 Like it's gonna be my mom has this little stoop tombstone in 885 00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,080 her bath and says, I told you I was sick. 886 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:31,720 And I always think it's so ironic because they're always 887 00:40:31,720 --> 00:40:34,040 like, you're fine, you're fine. My dad's an orthopedic surgeon, 888 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:35,600 You're fine. Just take some medicine. 889 00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:37,800 And so I always look at that when I'm like peeing at their 890 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,280 house and I'm like I told you guys, I was sick and like I was 891 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:43,360 there and I, but I did a lot of testing and everything was like, 892 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400 because I'm always like puffy, like I always feel. 893 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,960 And it was like everything pointed to like that MTF 8R. 894 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,440 So I finally got tested and I have a snip. 895 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,120 My son has the snip and he has a lot of behavioral stuff. 896 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,960 So I mean, it's not hard to fix, but like, you know, you can take 897 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,760 methylbolate and then obviously lifestyle, but you know, 898 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,040 sometimes lifestyle, like I do a lot of lifestyle and it was 899 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,440 hard. And yeah, you're absolutely 900 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:05,680 right. Like that in and of itself is 901 00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440 not sufficient, but definitely should be something that's 902 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,200 addressed, you know, while you're looking at genetic 903 00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,400 components. And this is interesting too, 904 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,440 because when I was talking with you this at first I heard about 905 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,120 today. So thank you for introducing me 906 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,440 to that, you know, even idea. Just learning. 907 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,360 I just did my genetic test. So where do you find that? 908 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:23,640 Where can somebody get that done? 909 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,000 I. Don't know this was blue 910 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,960 genetics or blue jeans or it might be totally hold on. 911 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:30,840 If you find it, send it to me and I'll put it in. 912 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,360 The show notes blue blue jeans, cute lab, but I don't even know 913 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,640 honestly. That's OK. 914 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:38,760 All right. Sorry everybody. 915 00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:40,640 We're going to introduce it to you and go. 916 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:43,400 There's a bunch of them, I think 23andMe, if you've already done 917 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,040 a test with them when I was like researching it last week, it 918 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,640 looks like you can actually call them and they hey, I'll pay them 919 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,920 another 100 bucks and they can add in that test to do great. 920 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,560 I think it's pretty common. Like there were a couple other 921 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,120 labs. They just wanted to charge me 922 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,160 like some stupid amount, yeah. Interesting, I will do that 923 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:02,480 actually cuz I've got I ran that test last year so I'll look into 924 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:02,880 that. Thanks. 925 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,200 Samantha. Lots of fun new stuff. 926 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,000 OK, and let's end with this cuz I just think it. 927 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:09,960 I mean, there are lots of amazing things about you, but 928 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,880 this is one of the ones I personally find most dear. 929 00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:17,480 You're also a DJ and you hosted a sober rave in January. 930 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,840 You've got another sober rave coming up in April. 931 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,240 So I want to know, like, personally, how does music 932 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:25,640 affect your recovery? How does like the expression of 933 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:27,640 being creative affect your recovery? 934 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,440 And what do you have next for your DJ career? 935 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,600 Oh my God. So actually, so when I was in 936 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,800 LA, when I decided to buy 2 turntables and be a drug dealer 937 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,800 out there, I was a DJ, right? And I did really well because, 938 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,120 because that's what I do. If I see it, I'm gonna do it and 939 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,040 I'm gonna do it well. And so I came out of retirement, 940 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,520 you know, 2 1/2 years ago, I went digital and I did not even 941 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,240 think anything of it. That was the one thing left from 942 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:55,720 my drug phase that like I just could have been famous. 943 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,440 It's sort of in my mind, I'm like, could've been famous. 944 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,080 Put it on this. So like what, you know, and I 945 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,960 just just had so much sadness and grief that I couldn't 946 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,320 process. And I was like, fuck it, I'm 947 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,120 gonna do it again. And on my vision board, I'm 948 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,440 like, I'm gonna headline a rave. I'm gonna do this. 949 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,160 And it like, it literally happened. 950 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000 And I was like headlining these raves and it just like, it fills 951 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,360 my soul. It's like I can't. 952 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,040 Music is such a big part of my life. 953 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,040 Everything about it. I, you know, I mean, you put on 954 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:19,560 a good song in the car and your whole movie, you know, it's 955 00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:21,560 there is something powerful with music. 956 00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,680 And I feel like it is one of the things that it doesn't matter 957 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:27,720 what president you like. It doesn't matter what religion 958 00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,800 you are. A song can bring people together 959 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,320 in a way that nothing else can, right? 960 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,320 Nothing. You can have two people who are 961 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,560 completely different in the same room listening to a song that 962 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,600 they both like and they will be OK. 963 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:43,560 I don't go to a therapy this, but music is my therapy and it's 964 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,920 one of the ways I bond with my 20 year old son. 965 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,960 Like we'll send music back and forth. 966 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,680 I just have this great memory of him like at 16 years old when he 967 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,440 made me sit on the backyard and we listen to the entire Drake 968 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,280 album. I'd never do that like on my 969 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,280 own, but it's just one of my favorite memories. 970 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,480 He's also into EDM. Like, he just has such a great 971 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,280 music repertoire and the way that he knows all the history 972 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,320 and like the nuances about DJs and, and, you know, singers and 973 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,560 stuff is just something I really, really appreciate. 974 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,280 Well, I'm hoping to be playing at some of these biohacking 975 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,000 conferences, so we'll see if that. 976 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,640 Let me know, I want to come backstage. 977 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:21,480 I know. I'll come, fangirl. 978 00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:24,400 You can be on stage, girl. Yeah, no, it's good stuff. 979 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120 But I it's so funny though, because I did, I actually post 980 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,040 in the district. I was a spinning instructor, 981 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:30,920 which is all music. And then I did synchronized 982 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,640 swimming, which is music. Like you just sing much for six 983 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:34,880 years? Like I was like. 984 00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,760 Hardcore. You got that. 985 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,360 You are a mystery. But everything I've done is 986 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,800 always like music. And so it's just, it's 987 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,320 interesting. I mean, I love music. 988 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,160 I love all of it except for heavy metal. 989 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:49,000 So yeah. I don't like heavy metal either. 990 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,480 Great, another thing we have in common. 991 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,640 Did you read Mark Ronson's Night People? 992 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:55,280 No. You might like that book. 993 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,440 I mean, Mark, DJ Mark Ronson, right? 994 00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,680 But he's a hip hop DJ, like underground hip hop DJ from like 995 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,960 1990s New York City, but just like loving music. 996 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:07,040 I actually, I listen to the Audible instead of reading the 997 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:10,880 book and he narrates it and just like you can just tell how much 998 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,840 he loves music, loves the culture. 999 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,920 It's this like chronology from him being a kid all the way to 1000 00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:20,040 like being a dad. And it is a fantastic story. 1001 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,120 I literally cried when it was over, it was so good. 1002 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,920 OK, then you have to go on to there's the Avicii stories on 1003 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,280 YouTube and then I'm Tim on Netflix. 1004 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,440 I watched. I'm Tim, my son, my husband and 1005 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:32,680 I. I'm Tim also cried. 1006 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,240 What a prodigy like that tried. Tragic. 1007 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,960 And who doesn't love Avicii? So go watch. 1008 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,640 And he was. And they say he was, you know, 1009 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,520 he was killed. Well, that's a whole other thing 1010 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:43,520 that would make sense. But yeah, I was. 1011 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:47,160 Trying to think like how like what they said about how he 1012 00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,600 died, like with the wine bottle, I was like, how would you do 1013 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:50,560 that to yourself? Go. 1014 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:54,880 Watch it's before he died. Go watch Avicii story or no? 1015 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,080 Yeah, Avicii stories on YouTube and shows. 1016 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,800 I mean, he was like pulling in the drug thing. 1017 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,240 Like he was really like he started smoking a lot of meth 1018 00:46:01,240 --> 00:46:04,400 and crap and like it got bad. But then he went through like 1019 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,640 his kind of come to Jesus moment, but not actually. 1020 00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,840 It was like more Eastern right? Like he was in like 1021 00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:12,160 transcendentalism. I think it's, well, Gourdain, 1022 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,880 Chef Gourdain, whatever. Bourdain. 1023 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,720 Yeah, yeah. He also died. 1024 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,440 They were both making a movie about sex trafficking, so. 1025 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:22,640 Well, that is real deep actually, so that's crazy. 1026 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,760 Okay, okay, I don't know if I want to get that deep on the 1027 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,480 Peptide podcast. Entertainment Tonight, Damn 1028 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,760 peptides and the real dev of Ichi. 1029 00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,600 Man, no. Tonight's my son's birthday, so 1030 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,080 I'm driving carpool, and then he wants Chick-fil-A, so I'm gonna 1031 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,480 indulge his little Chick-fil-A whims because he's 14, Yeah. 1032 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,760 My kid loves it too. So. 1033 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,200 I can get it OK. This is. 1034 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,760 So good. I know fun. 1035 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,200 I could talk to you for literally like 8 hours. 1036 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,960 You're going to have to come back on the podcast. 1037 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,560 I want to go deeper into some of these fat burners too with you 1038 00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,800 Sloop AOD. Like those are all things that 1039 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,840 are kind of next level for a lot of our audience. 1040 00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:01,880 And so as we progress as a podcast, I want to start 1041 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:03,840 progressing into some of those other options. 1042 00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,040 So consider yourself invited back. 1043 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,280 Thank you for all of your expertise, for your story, for 1044 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,120 your vulnerability. I just think you are fascinating 1045 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,800 and it has been a great hour to have gone to spend with these. 1046 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:19,720 So Samantha, how do people find you if they want to learn more? 1047 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:26,320 I am see fit living so S EE FIT living Instagram on that TikTok. 1048 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,880 I don't really post, but I'm on there or that's see 1049 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,240 fitliving.com. You can do a clarity call all 1050 00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,280 that good stuff. You want to work with me about 1051 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,400 it? Yeah, fantastic. 1052 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,760 DJ Samantha Lee LE EE you want to get on the DJ page, you can 1053 00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,320 see I'm about to post my onesie rave. 1054 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,040 My onesie rave. After this weekend, I'm 1055 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,520 headlining A onesie rave. I'm gonna do stitch a stitch 1056 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:48,320 onesie. OK, you're it's a furry rave. 1057 00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,680 I like it. Right. 1058 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,440 Why not? Nothing like doing this at 45. 1059 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,000 I have to tell you, this is really fast. 1060 00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,520 I don't really do girls weekends, I often, but I have 1061 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,240 three really good girlfriends from high school and we're down 1062 00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:02,520 in Huntington Beach like, I don't know, five years ago, just 1063 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,720 chilling, you know, drinking wine, riding bikes down the 1064 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:09,200 boardwalk. And it's like 5:30 PM on a 1065 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,240 Friday night. We're all riding our bikes down 1066 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,800 in Huntington Beach, like on the beach and we come across a furry 1067 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,960 every convention, right? It was one of the coolest things 1068 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:19,040 ever. Literally. 1069 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,880 I have a picture with like a bunch of furries, like grown ass 1070 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,560 people on the beach dancing all in these like furry costumes. 1071 00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,320 And it was just kind of a glorious sight. 1072 00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,040 They were all super cool, so nice, like answered all our 1073 00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,240 questions. And then these 4 middle-aged 1074 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:35,280 women like ride off to the sunset on their bikes on their 1075 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:36,440 beach cruisers. See ya. 1076 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,720 Great. It's always a good story, so. 1077 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,240 Please send me a picture of you as Stitch. 1078 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:44,440 I cannot wait to see. I will love it. 1079 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,400 All right, you guys, Samantha Lander, everybody or DJ Samantha 1080 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,120 Lee. Yeah. 1081 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:52,240 All right. Thanks for your time, Samantha, 1082 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,160 and thank you everyone for listening to the Peptides for 1083 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,440 Women podcast. We will be back next week with 1084 00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,600 another great show.