1 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Welcome to Peptides for Women. I'm Jennifer Woodward and this 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,560 is your podcast for smart, honest conversations about 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,000 peptide therapy and midlife Wellness. 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,440 We cover everything from GLP ones to BPC 157, plus the 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:22,560 foundations that still matter, sunlight, steps, strength 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,560 training, protein and minerals. So if you're ready to feel 7 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,480 better with science, back tools, and natural habits that actually 8 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,240 work, you're in the right place. Let's dive in. 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,960 I have to address the question I get more than almost any other 10 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,160 question, More than what do I do about my belly fat, more than is 11 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:43,960 this perimenopause, and honestly, probably more than 12 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,480 questions from my own family. Where do I get my peptides? 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,920 So here's the answer. I've been working with LEMD now 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:53,760 for about a year and I genuinely love them. 15 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,280 The physician oversight, the quality of the peptides, and the 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:00,240 business opportunity they've built for practitioners like me 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,360 is the real deal. If you want to order your own 18 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:05,319 peptides, the link is in the show notes. 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,880 It's super easy. 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Welcome back to the Peptides for 31 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Women podcast. I'm Jennifer Woodward, and I've 32 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:47,560 got a treat for you guys today. Welcome, my friend Jessica. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Jessica Loftus is an integrative genetic specialist, 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:57,000 nutritionist, personal trainer, and pro FMG athlete with nearly 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:01,400 19 years of experience helping thousands of people transform 36 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,840 their health. As a cancer survivor, she brings 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,360 a deeper, more personal level of understanding to the work she 38 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:12,280 does and the lives she impacts. She's currently expanding her 39 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,360 expertise by becoming a Certified Integrative Health 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,440 Practitioner, continuing her mission to help others achieve 41 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,400 optimal health from the inside out. 42 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:23,320 Jessica, I'm so happy you are here. 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,120 Thanks for being on the show. Hey, thank you for having me. 44 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,840 It's a it's a treat for me too. You guys, I met Jessica just a 45 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,560 couple weeks ago when both of us were thrown on an impromptu 46 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,040 teaching panel about peptides. And I look next to me and 47 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,640 there's this gorgeous woman starting to talk about peptides 48 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,200 and genetics. And I'm like, Oh my gosh, I have 49 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,720 to get to know you. And she is so kind and so sweet. 50 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,200 We had some great discussions there during that peptide 51 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,080 training, and I was fascinated by her story. 52 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,400 There's so much that I want to get into with you guys so you 53 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,720 can learn about Jessica, too. But the first thing I think is 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,840 maybe most fascinating that I literally just learned before we 55 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:08,400 hopped on to record is that she had a scholarship to do pro bull 56 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,960 riding, and that's why she resides in Oklahoma. 57 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,360 So let's just start with that, Jessica. 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,000 Yeah. Well, actually I had did that 59 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,520 stuff when I was younger prior to college from the scholarship 60 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,640 was mainly for like barrel racing and roping and all that 61 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:23,240 kind of stuff. And honestly, I know it's crazy. 62 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,080 They're like, you actually give scholarships for that. 63 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,360 And I'm like, yes, they do. I started rodeo when I was four 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,320 years old and honestly just fell in love with it. 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,560 I also played like competitive softball and got scholarships to 66 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,520 do that D1, but actually turned it all down to rodeo. 67 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,480 You know, it's just, it's one of those things rodeo and that 68 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,840 whole culture and community is it's like a lifestyle. 69 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:47,240 And that was just something that was always like really valuable 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,280 to me and to be able to continue to do that. 71 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:52,040 I was like, you know what, this is where I'm at and there's just 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,800 something about a horse and like, that's my partner in 73 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,440 crime. You know, I actually still have 74 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,600 a horse today and still do that barrel racing as a hobby, you 75 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,920 know, definitely a lot more low key than I had been back in the 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,480 day. But yeah, I mean, it's something 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,440 I've done my whole life. I'm a country girl at heart, 78 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,080 still currently live out in the middle of a field and I love it. 79 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:15,600 I'm curious to know, So what was your upbringing like? 80 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,399 How did that come about? That primed you to become AD 1 81 00:04:18,399 --> 00:04:20,800 athlete and a barrel racer? Yeah, yeah. 82 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,920 Well, honestly, I just have always been in sports. 83 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,280 I've always been an athlete. I played all kinds of sports 84 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:28,440 growing up. You know, rodeo was just that 85 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,560 one another thing that I did right. 86 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,120 That's something my dad was like a ranch guy, you know, from back 87 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,360 in the day. And then we started out on a 88 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:39,400 pony at four years old, start going to some junior rodeos. 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,920 And then eventually I got competitive in that and then 90 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,640 just continued to get competitive in other sports and 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,000 started doing travel softball and, you know, just kind of I'm 92 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,320 I'm an all in kind of gal. Like, I just love excelling at 93 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,320 things and just continuing to grow and whatever I do. 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,040 And so that's kind of always something that I took to doing 95 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,840 at a young age with everything. And so it just kind of kind of 96 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:02,400 turned out to where I had some options. 97 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,120 But honestly, I'm just so thankful for the lessons that 98 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,640 it's taught me. I mean, both from rodeo to 99 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,840 softball, just, you know, having that competitive mindset, it's 100 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:13,840 really crazy how much it helps you in your adult life too. 101 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Yeah, sports are a fantastic training ground for life. 102 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,320 So true. Yeah, Yeah. 103 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:21,880 Do you have brothers? Like, is that the culture that 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,640 you do have? Yes, so I have a brother that's 105 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:28,360 about 18 months older than me, so we're very, very close. 106 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,880 I mean, he's one of my obviously best friends growing up. 107 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,760 I mean, we were, you know, let's just say I got some thick skin 108 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,240 and I know that I had to throw a punch. 109 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:42,000 Like I learned the hard way, you know, which I'm still so 110 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,200 thankful for those things these days, right? 111 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,680 Like, you know, my brother and I are like being so close in age, 112 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,760 you know, you just, you Roundhouse a little bit and it's 113 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:53,800 just, it's been that way. And my brother was actually a 114 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,440 bull rider. He did the, you know, 115 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,960 professional rodeo circuit for a long time, was really good. 116 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,040 Ended up getting into a really bad accident. 117 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,320 He went back and, you know, kind of gave it his last shot and 118 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,520 ended out really well. But, you know, continued on. 119 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,000 Now he's a dad and all that kind of stuff. 120 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,520 And it's just, it's funny to kind of see how far we've come 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,440 from that lifestyle. But yeah, my brother and I are 122 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,760 super close. We've always been that way. 123 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,520 Thankful to have him. And it's funny because he's 124 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:24,120 always been one of my biggest supporters and I, I just can't 125 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:27,000 thank God enough for that. You know, I love to hear that my 126 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,440 oldest 2 are 15 months apart, my son's 20, and then my daughter 127 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:33,240 is almost 19. And so to hear how you guys as 128 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,680 adults, I've just kept that bond so strong and have been such big 129 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:38,600 supporters of each other is really encouraging. 130 00:06:38,840 --> 00:06:39,840 Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. 131 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:42,680 And he's honestly even with like the whole cancer journey. 132 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:46,320 I mean, you know, I, I feel like I almost handled it better than 133 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,800 he did, you know, and it's crazy because he just, he's just 134 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,520 always been been there for me, you know, but always like you 135 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,000 made sure that I knew what I was doing and always watch my back. 136 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,680 And so just to have that kind of support on the back end because, 137 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,400 you know, the world isn't necessarily always so 138 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,680 supportive. So to have that kind of support 139 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,880 at home has always just been a blessing to me. 140 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,800 Amen. I definitely want to get into 141 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:10,880 that. I just don't know what the 142 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,680 timeline looks like because we have this 4 year old girl who's 143 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,040 rodeoing and then roping and barrel racing. 144 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,440 So naturally she becomes a pro FMG, the athlete, right? 145 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,720 What's the story there? Yeah, okay, so that's kind of 146 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,640 well, because I got into personal training when I was 147 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:32,760 like 19 and so did that through college and I just always really 148 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,760 loved it. And then it's crazy because 149 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,880 while I was going through my masters, I graduated and then 150 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:39,920 had my daughter shortly after that. 151 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,520 And it was one of those kind of decisions where we're like, OK, 152 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,640 do I stay at home or do I continue to, you know, go into 153 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,200 the workforce and all this kind of stuff? 154 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,640 And so we decided that I should stay at home with my daughter. 155 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,160 And so I just kind of kept my online personal training stuff 156 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,560 going, But I struggled hard postpartum like that. 157 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,480 I went through some postpartum depression. 158 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,960 You know, it was just, it was different for me not working. 159 00:07:59,960 --> 00:08:02,960 I'm I'm very much an extrovert. I'm also an introvert extrovert 160 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,240 kind at the same time, but I do love people, right? 161 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:08,320 I love being around people. And so just to kind of be at 162 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,360 home all the time and not really being out was just kind of a 163 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,560 weird transition for me. And honestly, even not working 164 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,920 really. And so then, you know, 165 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,480 struggling with the body image issues and all that kind of 166 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,680 stuff, I was like, you know what, I'm going to compete in a 167 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,520 show. I need to get my body back after 168 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:26,120 a baby. I need to set some hardcore 169 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,920 goals and just give myself something to work towards. 170 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,360 And so about seven months postpartum, I started training 171 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:39,880 for my first show and then I did a show about 5 1/2 months later 172 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,200 and ended up winning my first show. 173 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,200 And so that's kind of, I didn't, I didn't get my pro card. 174 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,760 I did end up winning. There was like, I mean, 20 girls 175 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:49,600 in my category that were phenomenal. 176 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,560 But there was a couple little things that they're like you're 177 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:55,280 not quite pro quality yet. So I was like, you know, I'm 178 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,160 just going to go ahead and keep Rock'n'roll with this. 179 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,080 And it just really honestly boosted my business a lot. 180 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,080 And so just kind of went on that journey. 181 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,680 And then sometime later, I think roughly maybe six years later is 182 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:09,360 when I actually ended up fully getting my pro card. 183 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,800 So that was a pretty cool accomplish. 184 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,880 For me, insane. I've always wondered what is 185 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,400 What does it take to get a pro card? 186 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,360 I've seen that thrown around, but I don't even know what it 187 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:19,920 means exactly. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy because I 188 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,280 mean, there's certain obviously things that you need to, you 189 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,040 know, bring to the stage when it comes down to your show 190 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,160 presentation, to your suit, to your look, to obviously your 191 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,680 physique. And in order to get your 192 00:09:30,680 --> 00:09:34,840 physique to look a certain way is difficult, especially 193 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,560 especially naturally, like fully naturally, you know, to get 194 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,440 there at that kind of a level. I mean, especially when you've 195 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,240 got a life, right? When your mom, all that kind of 196 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,560 stuff, you know, it's hours in the gym, it's tracking every 197 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:50,320 little thing. It's making no excuses, like 198 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,720 having to show up, no matter how you feel and having to show up. 199 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,280 Well, it's not just like, oh, I'm just gonna go kind of like 200 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,080 lift a little weight over here. It's like you're tired. 201 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,120 Like the judges don't care, right? 202 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,440 Nobody cares about how hard you to get to the point of being on 203 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,080 the stage. And so it's just it takes an 204 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,160 extreme level of discipline, dedication and just really 205 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:15,000 blinders on, right. And so, I mean, it's crazy, you 206 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,360 know, and it was, it's so cool when you actually put yourself 207 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,360 through something like that, that is so hard because the 208 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,000 accomplishment of getting the pro cards awesome, don't get me 209 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:26,360 wrong. But who you become while you go 210 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,200 through this journey is insane. And it's weird to think that 211 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,840 that just by attaining a certain level of a look of a physique, 212 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:36,560 right, that can do that for you. But really showing up when it's 213 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:38,080 hard, you know, when you're tired. 214 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:42,360 I mean, I was still breastfeeding for my entire prep 215 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,160 of my first show. And so, you know, going through 216 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,320 those things and I could only go to the gym at night when my 217 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,920 husband, you know, because he was, we were only just doing 1 218 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,600 income pretty much at the time. And so he would come home and do 219 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,840 his second job. And so I can go to the gym until 220 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,920 after my daughter went to bed. And I mean, you know, getting up 221 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,960 so early, breastfeeding in the middle of the night, it's just, 222 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,600 it's weird how much you can grow when you go through the hard 223 00:11:08,600 --> 00:11:11,400 things, you know? And so it's just about taking 224 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,440 advantage of that. So the person you become on your 225 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,520 journey, I feel like it's really where the money's at. 226 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 But the pro card at the end of the day is just kind of that 227 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,880 that thing that you get to put on the the shelf and look at and 228 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,240 be be proud of. By affirmation for all the kick 229 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,040 ass work you did. Right. 230 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,040 Yeah. I'm like, man, that was hard, 231 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,280 you know? So you get a little bit of the 232 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,080 memory that's just sitting on the wall. 233 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,880 You're like, yeah, I did that one time. 234 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:36,240 Nice. It's nice. 235 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,080 What did it look like for you? Like right after you got your 236 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,600 pro card, you'd put in all that hard work, You've got it. 237 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,080 What six month old daughter? So what? 238 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,600 What happened post show? So I mean there was a lot of 239 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:51,200 time in between there, but after I got my pro card I was super 240 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,680 excited and so I wanted to compete my first pro show. 241 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:57,840 So like 8 weeks later I ended up doing my first pro show. 242 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:01,000 The funny thing is I ended up getting really sick like 2 weeks 243 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,120 out. Like I was like, and I don't 244 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,960 even know what happened. I went on a business trip to 245 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,320 Mexico and came back and I was like, ill. 246 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,520 And so I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, I'm going to have to pull out of 247 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:11,960 my first pro show. But I was like, you know what? 248 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,000 I'm just going to go ahead and do it anyway. 249 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,680 And then I ended up placing top five in the USA. 250 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:19,320 So that was really cool. And then, you know, I kind of 251 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,640 left it at that for a hot minute. 252 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,160 You know, life got really busy. I helped coach my daughter's 253 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,520 travel softball team. We started getting really, you 254 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,760 know, heavy into that and just I really wanted to be present, you 255 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,320 know, and it's hard to be fully present on vacation or any of 256 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:35,400 that stuff when you're prepping for a show. 257 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,480 I want to be able to just go to the ballpark and forgot to eat a 258 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,040 hot dog and I gotta eat a hot dog. 259 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,000 I don't have to worry about getting up super early. 260 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,960 So while that was such a fun period of time in my life, and 261 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,920 I'm not saying that I've hung that up forever, just right now 262 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,840 I'm just really just enjoying being a present mom, a business 263 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,200 owner and, you know, growing in those aspects of life. 264 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,560 Love it, love it, love it. Was it after that, you know, 265 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,880 that prep and all of that dedication that you decided to 266 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,640 do more of a foray into like integrative genetics or where 267 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:09,320 did that start to come about? So actually genetics happened 268 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,800 prior to getting my pro card and it honestly, because I've, I've 269 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:16,640 struggled with inflammation like pretty much my entire adult life 270 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,080 for as long as I can remember. And it's, it's something that 271 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,160 like while I was prepping, it's like I could feel like I could 272 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,160 get it under control, but it was still there, you know, it was 273 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,440 just still there. And so that was one of the 274 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,120 reasons why I got into integrative genetics because I'm 275 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,920 like, you know, there's just got to be something like everybody's 276 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,280 body responds differently. Like this person over here can 277 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,160 go work out this way. You put two people, get them on 278 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,280 the same regimen and you're going to get two different 279 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,320 results, right? And there's a reason for that, 280 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,400 right? Like our our genetics are really 281 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,680 our foundation of what our body responds to. 282 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:51,200 Now, don't get me wrong, the diet and the lifestyle of what 283 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,800 actually pulls the trigger, the genetics just load the gun. 284 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,840 But for the most part, it's like understanding that blueprint, 285 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,480 you know, and just having some kind of baseline as to how does 286 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,440 my body detox, You know, what nutrients can I absorb? 287 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,520 How does my body respond best to exercise, right? 288 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:08,960 Like how do I recover? You know, what are what are 289 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:12,640 these things that are in my blueprint then can help me not 290 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:17,040 just get to a better level of like a physique, but also just a 291 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,320 better level of health and understanding of how my body 292 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,440 works. That's really kind of amazing 293 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,800 because you started to understand specifically 294 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:28,360 inflammation and detox pathways. And then I mean, something 295 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,960 really terrible happened, right? Like when, when were you 296 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,440 diagnosed with cancer or what was going on with your life? 297 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,600 And, and you know, just walk me through that. 298 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,040 It's big. Yeah, it's wild because I've 299 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,080 been, I've been in this space a long time. 300 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 I've been healthy pretty much my entire life, even in college. 301 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:49,160 Yes, I have my heyday of like being a little party girl for a 302 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,800 hot minute, but never to the extreme right. 303 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,920 Like it was just, you know, I was that I was that person that 304 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:57,440 sometimes would go to the party and not drink like I was. 305 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,320 I've always kind of been that person. 306 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,000 And so I've always worked out, you know, done all that stuff. 307 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:06,000 So when I was diagnosed with cancer, it was like, no freaking 308 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,720 way. Like this is somebody else's 309 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,800 result, right? And I actually was diagnosed 310 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,440 back in September of 2025. So it wasn't that long ago. 311 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,640 And I remember getting those results. 312 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:18,320 And I was thinking to myself, I'm like, what? 313 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:21,040 You know, First off, I'm like, my body betrayed me. 314 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,680 Second off, I'm like, what the heck happened? 315 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Like, where did I go wrong? And, you know, it's kind of hard 316 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,120 not to think that you're just, it started making me look at 317 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,880 health in a very, very different way. 318 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Because on the outside, you would have never thought even 319 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,640 even my oncologist, this is like, you are not the 320 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,440 stereotypical profile of the person that I see in here. 321 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,240 And that was like a big thing for me, right? 322 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,400 But that just goes to show you how much or how important it is 323 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,360 to really understand what's going on internally because you 324 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,000 can look a certain way on the outside and have like a lot of 325 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,760 chaos going on in the inside, right? 326 00:15:56,760 --> 00:15:59,680 If that internal environment isn't, you know, set up 327 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,200 favorably or like functioning favorably, I mean, it can put 328 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,880 you at a lot of risk, especially with like metabolic dysfunction. 329 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:09,320 And honestly, you know, when you've got systemic inflammation 330 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,480 for a long period of time. Like I said, I've dealt with 331 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,400 this for years. Honestly, I can't even remember 332 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,400 when it was not a thing until I started, you know, 333 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,880 pharmaceutical peptide therapy. But I mean, that is creating a 334 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,080 favorable environment for cancer to grow, right? 335 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:29,200 It's like that, that constant stress on your body, like those 336 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,000 like that inflammation, just it's like a breeding ground, 337 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,280 right? Like your body just cannot 338 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,440 function properly and meaning it can't protect you properly 339 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,720 either. And so, you know, we found out 340 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,960 that it potentially could have been derived from mold toxicity. 341 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,120 And one of the things about that I have gene mutation called 342 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:48,480 MTHFR, I'm compound heterozygous. 343 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,920 So I'm actually up on the higher level of that. 344 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:54,120 And one of the things about when you have MTHFR, it means your 345 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:58,000 body cannot, one, methylate properly, but two, I can't detox 346 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,560 properly. And so when those toxins, 347 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,040 especially those mycotoxins that something like mold can, you 348 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:07,240 know, produce in the body when they sit there, it's a breeding 349 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,400 ground, right? And so my body just can't, can't 350 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,280 get those things, you know, get rid of them very efficiently and 351 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,160 effectively. But now knowing what I know and 352 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,760 learning how to support my body and especially on a higher level 353 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,800 with pharmaceutical peptide therapy, it's going to change my 354 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,599 life for the rest of my life. You know, it just, it sucks that 355 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:27,359 I didn't find them soon enough because I didn't find peptide 356 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,920 therapy until after I had technically I didn't know I had 357 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,600 cancer yet, but I had already had cancer at this, this point 358 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,720 in time. But so, so thankful I'm cancer 359 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,760 free now and that I had these therapies to help me, you know, 360 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,080 like I said, for the rest of my life, and not just me, but other 361 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,720 people as well. Praise God, there is a good 362 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,480 ending to that story. There's so many things I want to 363 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,160 unpack there. But you, you mentioned, you 364 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,960 know, you felt like you were inflamed for a really long time. 365 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,040 You said you've always suffered from inflammation. 366 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,480 You just didn't have the framework maybe to verbalize it 367 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,120 or how to conceptualize it because you weren't yet trained 368 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,360 in genetics. So how did that show up for you? 369 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:04,960 You know, in your teens and 20s, before you could kind of put a 370 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:08,560 name to the face? Yeah, honestly, cravings was a 371 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,840 big one for me. Like when I was younger, that 372 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,000 was something that like food was always like, I mean, I had, I 373 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,320 had struggled with a lot of eating disorders growing up 374 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,400 from, I mean, every end of the spectrum. 375 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,960 Like, do you think I'm pretty much like everyone you think of? 376 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,240 I probably went through it at some period of time, but it's 377 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,080 because I always had this really negative relationship with food. 378 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,040 And, you know, cravings are a chemical reaction in the brain, 379 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,400 right? They're not just something, oh, 380 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,960 I'm just hungry and I want snacks. 381 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,760 Like it's, it's a chemical reaction that's going on, that's 382 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,320 being triggered somewhere. And so I feel like that was 383 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,600 probably when I first started to notice it, like looking back 384 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,600 from what I know now. And then when I got to be in my 385 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,280 early 20s, I noticed that, you know, the inflammation in my 386 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:48,600 face. Like I always felt like I had a 387 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,560 really round face. Turns out I was just swollen, 388 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,080 you know, like I was like, oh, I was just puffy, you know, And 389 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:58,440 then once I had my daughter, it's like an extra layer got 390 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,000 added on. And then it's pretty much like 391 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:04,120 every, you know, even every five years after you turn 20, it's 392 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,280 like it got a little bit worse and a little bit worse because 393 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,840 you're going through those hormonal shifts that, you know, 394 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,320 makes it your body's just not functioning as well. 395 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:14,680 And then my body is already hindered in some very important 396 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,520 areas just from, you know, a magnetic standpoint. 397 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:20,240 That's really when I started to notice it, honestly, when I was 398 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:21,840 younger. But it was with the cravings and 399 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,680 then the even just going out to eat, my hands would swell, you 400 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,840 know, just of something that wasn't even bad like some steak 401 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,280 and sweet potato fries, right? Like any extra like things. 402 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,360 I just noticed that swelling was always a big thing for me. 403 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,480 You know, the cravings stayed constant and actually got worse. 404 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,680 And then like I said, the inflammation in my face, like 405 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:44,280 waking up with a puffy face, that was like a really, a really 406 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,920 big sign for me that I didn't really know then, right? 407 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:48,760 Like I just like I said, I just thought I had a really round 408 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:49,960 face. Well, turns out I have a 409 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,120 jawline. It's good to finally see it, you 410 00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,960 know? But those were signs that I just 411 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:57,800 didn't really know. And then very, very heavy 412 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,120 cycles, painful cycles was another one, right? 413 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:03,320 That's a big sign of your body is trying to get something out, 414 00:20:03,320 --> 00:20:04,320 right? There's something that's not 415 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,680 right. And so that was also another 416 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,680 component when I got into my 20s. 417 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,800 Wow. OK, So what were some of the 418 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,520 epigenetic manipulations you did? 419 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,080 You know, you told us that you know, genes, genes aren't 420 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,840 necessarily your destiny. It's it's our, you know, 421 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,280 lifestyle and our nutrition that really pulls the trigger for 422 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,800 what could be encoded in us. So what were some of the 423 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,160 practical things you did from the get go when you discovered 424 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,440 your MTHFR? Right, So one of the things is 425 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,360 honestly detoxify in your home, right? 426 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:33,440 Because that's where you let's where you spend a lot of your 427 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,800 time, right. So like, I remember when I was 428 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,920 younger, my mom would have candles in the house and I would 429 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,480 put candles in my room and there was I would get triggered. 430 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,400 And I remember specifically one time time my mom, I had like a 431 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,680 terrible cough and it just wouldn't go away. 432 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,120 And you know, obviously some of that inflammation was probably 433 00:20:50,120 --> 00:20:52,440 there when my mom took the candles out of my room and I 434 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,920 quit coughing. Like, and I never thought about 435 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,800 that stuff when I was younger, you know, but fragrance and you 436 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,160 know, like there's a lot of toxins that were exposed to and 437 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,080 if my body is not good at getting rid of those things, 438 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,160 they're just sitting there. So detoxifying my home was a 439 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,000 really big one, you know, making sure there was no fragrances 440 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,840 around even and it just not being like nuts about it, right? 441 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,680 Like when something and candles are easy to throw away, but say 442 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,080 like laundry detergent, right? It's got fragrance in it. 443 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:19,960 Like next time I run out, I'm just going to go get something 444 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:21,680 that's better for me. Or same thing with like your 445 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,320 lotion or your shampoo. Think about we're putting these 446 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,320 things on, you know, our skin, which is absorbing, right? 447 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,400 It goes directly into your body. And so we don't think about 448 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,040 those things like deodorant, even, you know, not using 449 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,360 toothpaste that has like fluoride in it. 450 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:39,920 You know, there's just so many little things that I started to 451 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,760 do just to switch out for better, better products, right? 452 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:44,720 That was a big one. And that's another thing with 453 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,000 epigenetics, right? That's our environment too. 454 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:51,240 So it's like that helps control the way our genes are expressed. 455 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,320 And so if you're sitting and living in an environment that is 456 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,960 super toxic, you know, your genes, if they're not favorable, 457 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,200 are going to get turned on, right? 458 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,920 It's like what's what's causing those switches to get turned on? 459 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,560 Because we can quiet the noise. Like we can control a lot, 460 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,560 right? We're exposed to like 750,000 461 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,480 toxins a day. Like we're not going to be able 462 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,640 to get rid of all those things, but we can work on and where we 463 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,200 sleep, where we live, and it really does make a huge 464 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:17,600 difference. And then obviously to the 465 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,360 lifestyle factor, making sure that, you know, the foods that 466 00:22:20,360 --> 00:22:25,120 you eat, moving your body like utilizing, you know, saunas and 467 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,520 all those kinds of things to help that body detox. 468 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,400 And then obviously even supporting your body on the 469 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,040 supplemental end, you know, taking supplements to help you 470 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,200 methylate properly and to help support your liver and just make 471 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,920 you function better. So those are a lot of things 472 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,680 that I did over a very long period of time. 473 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,160 Like I said, I even tell my clients, you know, I'm not 474 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,760 telling you to go burn your house down, right? 475 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:47,920 Like I'm just telling you like, hey, let's just do little swaps 476 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,280 here. Like maybe when you run out of 477 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,040 like some of this, you know, trashy bread that you're eating, 478 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,080 let's go swap it for some like organic sourdough that you can 479 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:58,240 get, you know, a whole food market or something. 480 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,120 Just little tiny things here and there really do make a big 481 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,160 difference over time. OK, this is really helpful. 482 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,120 I think for a lot of women who maybe feel powerless against the 483 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:10,800 750,000 toxins that they're exposed to every day. 484 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,800 I wonder like what are some of your favorite clean beauty 485 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,680 products or lines? Honestly, Saints really good. 486 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,520 That's a really good one that I utilize. 487 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,920 There's some local places around town that I go to as well. 488 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,400 Like his makeup is like, you know, that's a hard one because 489 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,440 you're like, Oh my gosh. And honestly, most of the time I 490 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,680 don't even wear a lot of makeup anymore. 491 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,560 I just use some like, you know, moisturizer and then I'm solid. 492 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,600 You know, I keep all my stuff just very low key, like even 493 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,680 just utilizing some beef tallow, you know, that I get at the 494 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,280 local market just to kind of help me out. 495 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,720 But the the you know, if you don't need to put makeup on or 496 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,800 any of that kind of stuff, then you know, like just don't do it 497 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,840 right. I'm not going to lie, I got my 498 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,520 eyebrows tattooed or micro bladed. 499 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,240 I got that done. So that way I'm like, I don't 500 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,480 got to do that no more. So I'm just going to wake up, 501 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:01,840 get rocking and rolling and all that kind of stuff. 502 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,960 I joke about that kind of stuff all the time too, you know, but 503 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,160 and then even using some things like buff city's a good one. 504 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:11,240 I have a friend that utilizes, I think it's, I think it's 505 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,160 Melaleuca or something using some products from some friends 506 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:17,760 that have some good clean stuff. You know, I do that all the time 507 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,800 as well. I love to support them and their 508 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,560 businesses too. So just you can find those 509 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,080 things out there. I mean, and even like even my 510 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,560 dishwasher pods I just get on Amazon, you know, you can look 511 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,080 up clean products. It's a lot easier than we than 512 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,120 we think. It's just not that mainstream 513 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,360 stuff that we think of right away. 514 00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,680 But once you start to find it, it's all out there. 515 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,240 Especially now, I feel like there's a lot more companies 516 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,840 that are focusing on things. Like that Awesome, very, very 517 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:45,200 helpful. Also curious too, because you 518 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,760 said that you got into now some, some peptide therapies, right? 519 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,080 And this is right before you learn that you had cancer. 520 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,280 So how did you come into the peptide space? 521 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,240 Was it through the bodybuilding world or nutrition world? 522 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,400 What that look like? So I actually went to a 523 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,920 biohacking convention a few years ago, and that's the first 524 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,240 time that I had ever learned about peptide therapy. 525 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,360 I was like, oh, you know, because it was kind of like in 526 00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:12,560 the biohacking community, bodybuilding community actually 527 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,560 for quite some time. And so I started researching it, 528 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:16,880 right? And I'm like thoroughly going 529 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,000 through these things and I'm like, okay, this is what this is 530 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,640 and this is what that is. And then I honestly hit a hard 531 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,720 struggle season. Like we went into a crazy busy 532 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,440 season and then I got into that area where I'm like, I can't 533 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,640 work out for, you know, 90 minutes a day, like 5 or five 534 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,200 days a week. Like, you know, getting in, you 535 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,120 know, 12,000 steps a day. It's looking more like 8 to 536 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:42,120 10,000 now. Like the, the food thing, like 537 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,600 being able to prep and track every little thing wasn't 538 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,200 necessarily as doable. I had to be more on the go. 539 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:51,640 And so with that being a super sensitive salary body that I 540 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,960 have, like the inflammation started coming back, the 541 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,800 cravings started coming back, the weight came back with 542 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,200 vengeance, you know, And so I'm sitting there and I'm like, man, 543 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,600 I'm looking into all this stuff. And obviously there was a little 544 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,680 bit of hesitation because of some of the negative things you 545 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,120 see on the, the media, right? You're like, Oh my gosh, this is 546 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:11,240 doing all these bad things. But I always say, if you're 547 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,560 going to look for research that's negative or whatever, 548 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,160 you're going to always find it, right? 549 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680 But being open minded, like if you start seeing what, what 550 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:24,920 happens when people do it right, the, the research and the, the, 551 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,640 you know, outcome is so different, right? 552 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,640 There's a way to do it wrong and there's a way to do it right. 553 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,560 And there's just looking into that. 554 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,240 I was like, you know what, I need this right now. 555 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,360 And so that's why I decided to actually pull the trigger on 556 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,080 peptide therapy myself. I started working with a local 557 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,560 practitioner and I was like, you know, this is just something 558 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,000 that I need. This is some support that I need 559 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,720 for my body. Then once I did it, I was like, 560 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600 why did I wait so long? You know, like, you mean I could 561 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,040 have been doing this my whole life. 562 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,920 I haven't had it. Like there's like this monster 563 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,680 in my body that has been like suppressed, right? 564 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,440 That it's like the cravings, like it's just like, I just got 565 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,160 her like in this cage, right? And sometimes she gets out and 566 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,040 she gets out for a hot minute, you know, causes some ruckus and 567 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,280 then I try to get her put back in there. 568 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,040 I don't have to go through that fight no more. 569 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,880 You know, it's like there's those triggers aren't being, you 570 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,240 know, flipped anymore. It's like, it has been such a 571 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,920 blessing to be able to utilize that. 572 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,160 And guess what with that, Like my body has never functioned as 573 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,360 well ever. And it's crazy because just 574 00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:28,360 before, you know, I had been diagnosed with cancer, I was 575 00:27:28,360 --> 00:27:31,240 like, I've literally never felt better in my entire life, you 576 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,320 know, but I had, yeah, right. I'm like, there's a reason. 577 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,400 There's a reason. I know. 578 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,560 But I had started peptide therapy in December of 2024 and 579 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:43,200 then was diagnosed with cancer, breast cancer in September of 580 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,520 2025. So, you know, I already had it. 581 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,120 But at the same time, I'm like, man, I finally feel like I'm in 582 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,240 control of my body. And it's like, man, what if I 583 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,040 could have just been in control five years sooner, right? 584 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,040 Like what, what my, I mean, what kind of outcome could I have 585 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,720 potentially had? And I mean, we're changing the 586 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,480 terrain here, right? Like it's just so much better of 587 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,520 an environment that I have going on now than I had going on 588 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,720 pretty much my whole life. So I'm just super, super 589 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,280 passionate about it. So thankful and Neil, let's just 590 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,720 say like after micro dosing, I'm down 25 lbs been able to keep 591 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760 that off like easily, you know, and honestly I didn't even know 592 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,000 I had 25 lbs to lose. I was thinking like 10 to 15 and 593 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,600 then you know, once I capped out around the 25 range or whatever, 594 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:31,280 I'm like man, I had like all this extra inflammation plus 595 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,720 some extra, you know body fat, but I'm like that extra body 596 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:35,720 fat. The biggest thing when you, 597 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,160 you're like, oh, I just lost this much. 598 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,160 I'm like, you're doing so much good for your body when you're 599 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:43,040 bringing body fat down because the body holds on to toxins and 600 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,880 the fat like, right, Like your body wraps the toxins basically 601 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,880 in fat like bubble wrap trying to protect you. 602 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,440 And that's why a lot of times that midsection weight gain, 603 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,560 that's where it puts it, you know, and that's why it's so 604 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,520 hard for it to get rid of because it's considered tainted 605 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,680 fat. So your body's like, I don't 606 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,560 want to use that as energy, right? 607 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,680 Like we're just going to leave that sucker right there, you 608 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,040 know, but it's sitting in your body and just wreaking havoc on 609 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,200 the body. So what I've learned now and 610 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,000 like the peptide space and where that's going and what it's doing 611 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,400 for people, especially for people who have had cancer and 612 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,800 are working like post cancer, what to do in their bodies. 613 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280 Like it's just, it's truly incredible. 614 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,880 And we're just in such a cool time to be able to have access 615 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,920 to these kinds of things. Absolutely. 616 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,000 And it's interesting to me too that you, you know, you were on 617 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,560 peptides when this happened, like if it could have been worse 618 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,160 if you weren't, if you were already bringing down the 619 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,160 inflammation. So when your oncologist told 620 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,920 you, you know you've had active cancer, what was the peptide 621 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,640 discussion that went on and what was the protocol you you did 622 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,440 going forward? Yeah, and honestly, like to back 623 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:45,360 up a little bit, like if I hadn't lost the 25 lbs, like I 624 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,320 don't know if I would have ever actually gotten it checked 625 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,160 because I could feel it like it was like right up underneath my 626 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,520 skin. And so I wasn't really sure if 627 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,280 it had changed or I was like, I'm just gonna get this checked 628 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,040 out. So honestly, I'm super thankful 629 00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,680 that I dropped that weight because I was just, you know, I 630 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,200 had a feeling. But once I actually ended up 631 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,880 finding out that I had cancer and talking to my oncologist, 632 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:07,520 she was actually very supportive of it. 633 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,280 I actually just had an appointment up with her 634 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,400 yesterday and we were talking about all these different 635 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,440 modalities, including peptide therapy because I'm actually 636 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,520 choosing not to go with some traditional routes, you know, 637 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,560 and the crazy thing is she's been in the in oncology for over 638 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,040 20 years. I mean, she's been doing it a 639 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,520 very, very long time. And to hear somebody that has 640 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 been in in the medical field for that long and seen all the 641 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,240 transitions through the medical field, most of the time you 642 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,200 think that they're going to be stuck in their ways and they're 643 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,280 not open to new things. But it was really cool to have 644 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,240 her support. You know, she was like, I even 645 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,680 when I told her I was micro dosing, she's like, totally for 646 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:45,840 that. Stay on that. 647 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160 There's a lot of really good things coming out about that 648 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,440 right now. And you know, changing like how 649 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,640 your, your body's like, you know, with your blood sugar, 650 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,000 your insulin, I mean, inflammation, all these things 651 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,600 are going to be favorable for you post cancer. 652 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,480 And, you know, to hear that again yesterday and just to talk 653 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,640 about some other treatments that I'm utilizing and other 654 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,560 modalities instead of things like radiation or, you know, 655 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,400 chemotherapy was never on the table for me, thankfully. 656 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,600 But they did suggest some radiation as just a precaution. 657 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,080 Like they were thinking like maybe 5 to 10 treatments. 658 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,080 But you know, for me, I'm already a very low risk profile. 659 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,080 So the risk reward just wasn't there for me. 660 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,480 But also, you know, I'm not choosing to do nothing either, 661 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,880 right? Like I'm totally changing my 662 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,480 biology and the way the signaling is going on in my body 663 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,760 and supporting my body in a different way. 664 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,880 And it was just really cool to hear how supportive she was of 665 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,640 that. Very, very encouraging. 666 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,440 Are you comfortable with talking about some of the alternative 667 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,080 therapies that you're going to be exploring? 668 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,680 Yeah, absolutely. So one of the things like 669 00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:51,280 obviously micro dosing that's like my staple, it's the dual 670 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:55,120 agonist GLPGIP with the B12 methylated B12, which is 671 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,680 awesome. So that's, that's kind of like 672 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,840 my foundational piece just because that has been such a 673 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,760 huge component for me for controlling inflammation, which 674 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,040 is a big driver for a lot of the issues that I've had. 675 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,640 The next thing is technically a peptide, but you know, kind of 676 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160 doesn't work on a signaling pathway like glutathione. 677 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,240 That's been a really big one for me because having MTHFR, one of 678 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,480 the reasons why you have an issue with detoxification is 679 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,560 because of your body's ability to produce glutathione. 680 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,760 And so being able to put that into my body in an area in which 681 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,880 it's already hindered is just like, whoa, let's go, you know? 682 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,040 And honestly, once I started, I started feeling so good, right? 683 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,480 Yeah, I'm like, man, I feel like pistols are firing like this is 684 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,920 this is solid. And so glutathione has been a 685 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,960 really good one for me, just helping my body on that 686 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,320 detoxification process because, right, if you can get these 687 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,480 things out of your body and get your body functioning, if it's 688 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:47,320 not, the longer it holds on to something like that, the worse 689 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,920 it is in the body, right? And the worse it is in the body, 690 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,880 the more at risk you are for chronic illness and cancer being 691 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,040 one of those things. So that's definitely one that 692 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,600 I'm using. Another one is TA-1, 693 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,200 thymoalfacin one that's a really good one. 694 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,280 It's an immune system modulator. So that's going to, one of the 695 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,280 biggest things with that for like post cancer is helping 696 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,520 produce more T cells, right? And within those T cells is 697 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,160 killer T cells and killer T cells like literally like eat 698 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,240 abnormal cells, right? And so for me, that's, that's 699 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:19,680 good, right? And we want to keep the immune 700 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,160 system some functioning properly because that's your protection, 701 00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:23,880 right? So that's one of the things that 702 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,640 I'm utilizing. Also looking into a different 703 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,640 peptide called PNC 27. I think it's either 21 or 27. 704 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,880 That's another one. That's one that I use a lot in 705 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,560 cancer treatment centers in Mexico. 706 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:39,560 So that was another thing that I started doing is really looking 707 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,720 at because, you know, they utilize a lot of these therapies 708 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,480 in other countries and they don't use them as much here or 709 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,400 they're not as like open. And so I wanted to start looking 710 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,760 into other ways that other countries treat their people. 711 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,920 And you know, there's honestly a lot of really good cancer 712 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,440 treatment centers in Mexico. And so that was one of the ones 713 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,840 that they utilize a lot. TA-1 was also one that they 714 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,000 utilize a lot. I'm also looking into ozone 715 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,680 therapy. I haven't dove into that one as 716 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,159 much as far as like, you know, the, the purpose behind it and 717 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:12,360 all the kind of like sciency side of things, but that's 718 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,159 something high dose vitamin C is another one. 719 00:34:15,159 --> 00:34:18,199 And then I'm also looking into the Rife machine, which is like 720 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:21,440 a frequency deal. It's pretty cool. 721 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,080 Like when you start looking into all that stuff, I've read a lot 722 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,440 of materials and looked into some things of just like, you 723 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:31,120 know, even like the political side of things, you know, like 724 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,600 not to get too crazy into that kind of stuff, but I mean, it's 725 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,679 just wild. And when you look at some of the 726 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,560 research on that, I mean, he pretty much had like 100% cure 727 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,960 rate. And so just going into like I 728 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,639 said, kind of some, you know, non traditional things, even did 729 00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,480 some muscle testing, which is a little woo woo, but. 730 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,679 I like muscle testing. But but like when I first went 731 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,719 into it, I was like, OK, I'm like, it seems a little woo woo. 732 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,680 I'm going to be totally honest, like, but I'm totally open to it 733 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,440 too. So I went and did the muscle 734 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,000 testing and that's kind of when we figured out that this could 735 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,080 have been derived from mold exposure. 736 00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:08,400 And our house prior that we lived in before it did actually 737 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,880 have mold in the house and we got it treated and all that kind 738 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,520 of stuff. But I don't know how long we had 739 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,520 lived there a couple years before we had sold it. 740 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,920 But I mean, if I'm living in that environment for two years, 741 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,800 right, having the higher level of MTHFR that I have, like, you 742 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,760 know, my, my test didn't come back saying that I was like 743 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,240 living in it. It came back that more so that I 744 00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,600 had been exposed and those things were just kind of sitting 745 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,960 in my body. So utilizing some antimicrobials 746 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,920 and then a binder as well. And just let you know, the 747 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:40,800 binder tastes like a campfire that has gasoline on it. 748 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,240 Like I was like, this is the most earthy thing I think I've 749 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:47,320 ever done. Like this is, you know, I was, I 750 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,320 was joking about it the other day. 751 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:52,440 I'm like, man, this I have to like and I'm not, I'll take it 752 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,440 like I don't care if it tastes like grass. 753 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,800 I'll take it. I'd like I have no complaints 754 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,880 here. But that one, I was like, that 755 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,960 one's a little. Which which binder are you 756 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:01,960 taking? I want to hear it's. 757 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,840 Carboxy from cell core. Oh, yeah, yeah, I'm taking it, 758 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,480 yeah. Oh yeah, I was like, and then 759 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,000 she's like, you got to let it sit for a little bit. 760 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,560 I was like, I'm impatient, I'm going to shoot it anyway. 761 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,720 I don't care. But I'm like, it seriously 762 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:14,800 tastes like a campfire that has gas cord on it and I'm just 763 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,520 straight up doing it. In the alternative world, you 764 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,920 know, that's when it's working. The worst it takes, you're like, 765 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,160 Oh yeah, bring it on. Yeah, yeah. 766 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:27,160 So and also utilizing finbenazole with some Ivermectin 767 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,440 in there as well. I just started that this week. 768 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,920 So there's a lot of different moving parts, you know, but you 769 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,000 know, just a lot of like really good things that I feel like, 770 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,760 you know, when we're talking about risk reward with 771 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,320 traditional therapies, like, you know, they're talking about, and 772 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,160 this is all personal, like no medical advice. 773 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,360 This is what I have personally just decided to do for my own 774 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,360 journey and what I felt like it's best for my body. 775 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,240 And the type of cancer that I've had is, you know, just going 776 00:36:52,240 --> 00:36:53,320 through these different therapies. 777 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:54,960 It's just, it's, it's different, right? 778 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,800 Like it is very different, but not choosing to do something a 779 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,960 hormone blocker, right? Because I'm like, well, my risk 780 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,760 of reoccurrence or the risk of other types of cancers is 781 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,400 already in the single digits. Like why do I want to take this 782 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,800 and increase my risk for uterine cancer, which is way worse than 783 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,400 the cancer that I had, right? So, you know, like I just, I 784 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,560 think people should be an advocate for their own health 785 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,400 and not be afraid to ask questions, right? 786 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,800 Because one thing that I noticed when I was going through all 787 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,520 these things and getting all these options, they don't tell 788 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,880 you like the risk of other things, right? 789 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:31,200 Because even when I went to go into talk to my radiation 790 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,120 oncologist, you know, he's talking about all these things 791 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,160 and you know, radiation and they're reducing your risk of 792 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,160 reoccurrence of reducing this or whatever. 793 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,080 But I'm like, well, what about increasing the risk for other 794 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,040 things? Like what's that? 795 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,200 And then it's like some of the stuff I noticed that it 796 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,240 increased my risk over here more than what it decreased my risk 797 00:37:47,240 --> 00:37:50,440 over here, you know, which is way, way worse, right? 798 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,440 And so I mean, even with the radiation, my, my cancer was on 799 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,520 my left breast. And so I'm like, well, we're 800 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,240 doing radiation over here. What about my heart? 801 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,480 You know, that's real close. And he's like, you know, there's 802 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,120 certain things, but then a lot of these things just come up, 803 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,440 you know, potentially 10 years after, like the hardening of the 804 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,360 heart or the lung or, you know, all these other things. 805 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,480 But I'm like, in 10 years, I'll be 47. 806 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:16,200 Like, I'm gonna still be a spring chicken, like, you know, 807 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,000 you know, And so I'm like, I don't want my heart to be 808 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,400 hardened at that age, you know? And so I just started asking a 809 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,520 lot of questions and looking into other things. 810 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,240 I'm like, there are other treatments out there. 811 00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:27,800 It's just you got to ask about them. 812 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,640 And you just got to be an advocate for your own health and 813 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,600 make a informed decision. And one thing when you do make 814 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,800 your decision, even I was talking with my oncologist about 815 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,840 this yesterday, is you have to be comfortable with what you 816 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,440 choose, you know, and I am completely comfortable with the 817 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,680 path that I've chosen. That is great advice. 818 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,160 I'm sure there are women listening to this who are 819 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,200 probably experiencing a similar path. 820 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,000 And so just knowing that they have options and knowing that 821 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:55,600 the standard course of treatment is not necessarily always the 822 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,720 only answer and that there are oncologists out there who may 823 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,440 have been practicing for 20 years who are open to some of 824 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,480 these alternative or, or, you know, more modern tools, I think 825 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,920 that's really exciting. Yeah, I really do too. 826 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,880 And I'm so thankful for it. And I really feel like there's 827 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,560 such a big shift in the health and Wellness space. 828 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000 You know, I feel like people are looking at health differently. 829 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,600 I do feel like people are asking more questions. 830 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,200 Like, you know, you're like with blood work, for example, like, 831 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,240 you know, my blood work's fine, but I don't feel fine, Right. 832 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,360 Well, before people would have just been like, well, just tell 833 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,320 me what to take, you know, and I'll, I'm going to do what you 834 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,160 say. Whereas now it's like, no, 835 00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:32,960 there's still there's something that's not right. 836 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,400 And I feel like there's that shift that's happening where 837 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,760 people are starting to look into different modalities and 838 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,040 realizing that there are other options that potentially could 839 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,720 be a better source that might not just be as traditional, but 840 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:46,720 that just because it's not traditional doesn't mean that 841 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:49,720 it's bad or doesn't work or whatever. 842 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,280 It's just something that they don't necessarily look into 843 00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,720 here. But when you start looking into 844 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,280 other countries, they do this a lot in other countries. 845 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,160 That's good to know too. Like do do your research like 846 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,040 this is not, this is not the only the be all and end all here 847 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,680 in the United States, you know? Yeah, Yeah. 848 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,760 As much as we like to think that we're the only ones here, right, 849 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:10,880 we're not. We're not. 850 00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,680 There's a whole nother world out there. 851 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,600 My surprise, so when I first met you, I mean, I noticed not only 852 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,720 are you well spoken and well educated and charismatic, but I 853 00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:24,200 definitely saw your Philippians 413 bracelet on your wrist. 854 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,960 And so, you know, going through the hard things that you went 855 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,960 through having a family, like how did your faith inform you 856 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,160 know, you going through this cancer journey? 857 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,480 Yeah, well, honestly one of the crazy things is I actually 858 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,440 didn't even tell my daughter about my daughter's fixing to 859 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:42,720 turn 11 here in a couple weeks. I didn't tell my daughter until, 860 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:47,000 oh gosh, it was like 5 months post cancer, like after my 861 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,840 mastectomy, everything. I did not tell her that I had 862 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,680 had cancer because I just got to a point where I was like, you 863 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:54,800 know what, I just I don't she's just so sweet. 864 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,480 She's so innocent and she's I I feel like I don't want her to 865 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,920 worry about mom. You know, that's not I don't not 866 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,720 saying that it's like bad to tell your family. 867 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:05,840 It's just for me, I was like, I just don't want to disturb her 868 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,560 right now until I know everything because I didn't have 869 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,880 all my results back. Like it takes a long time. 870 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,680 I mean, it took almost 60 days for me to have my mastectomy. 871 00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,760 And so I had to sit there with two months knowing that there's 872 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,360 cancer in my body, you know, and I was just like, this is crazy 873 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:21,680 to me. And so I just wanted to wait 874 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,520 until I felt like that was the right time. 875 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,600 And I knew that God was going to speak to me at that time. 876 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,680 And so for me, I just felt like that was a big deal. 877 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,400 But honestly, I leaned on God a lot like that. 878 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,880 I mean, that's, that's really what got me through this. 879 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,960 And the biggest thing too is that I developed this thing with 880 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,120 my daughter's softball team and with some of my clients 881 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:39,880 originally, and then moved into my daughter's softball team 882 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,960 called the Champion Mindset. And it's really about you have 883 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,400 the choice to 1 to be a light right, to serve others in a very 884 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,560 positive way. But just because something 885 00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:50,800 negative happens doesn't mean that you have to be negative 886 00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,480 about it, right? The the biggest thing is that, 887 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,040 you know, I talk about on her softball team, I'm like, if you 888 00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,880 strike out and then you come into the dugout and you're just 889 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:03,440 this like negative Nancy and you're bringing this, this 890 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,120 energy, negative energy into the team. 891 00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:07,080 What do you how much value do you think that's going to add to 892 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,200 your team? Or if you strike and say, Hey, 893 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,080 dude, like she threw me inside one, watch out for it. 894 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,040 Like, go cheer on your next person. 895 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:16,360 Like, that's going to be a completely different outcome. 896 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,560 And if you're sitting there constantly being negative, like 897 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,400 it's only going to make the situation worse. 898 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,840 And so when I found out about this, it's crazy. 899 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,840 I had developed this whole thing just prior, you know, to getting 900 00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,800 diagnosed. And I was like, man, this is a 901 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,520 test, right? If I'm not going to really 902 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:34,760 practice what I preach here. And so I was like, you know 903 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,320 what, like I gave myself, I found out, you know, fairly 904 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:43,160 early on, it was on a Monday. And then my daughter gets home 905 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:44,440 from school. Like we had to pick her up 906 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,120 around like 3315. And so I said until 3:15, I can 907 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,240 be upset. And after 3:15, you got to turn 908 00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:52,880 it off, right? You got to be mom, you got to be 909 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,720 a warrior. And at that time I said, you 910 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:57,400 know, God does not make mistakes. 911 00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,200 There's a reason why this is happening. 912 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,840 And I have full faith in that. And so I can choose to come out 913 00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,360 of this pain with some kind of, I would say come, if you're 914 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,240 going to go through pain, you better come out with some kind 915 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:08,720 of payment. And I don't mean financially, 916 00:43:08,720 --> 00:43:09,880 right? You better grow from it. 917 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,240 You better learn from it. You better find a way to, you 918 00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:14,360 know, get some kind of payment out of it if you're going to go 919 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,800 through this kind of pain. And you know, pain isn't 920 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,920 necessarily always a bad thing, right? 921 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,160 Like if we come out of it stronger. 922 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:24,400 And I mean, what I'm learning to serve other people, you know, I 923 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,160 mean, just like even that mindset, how much has changed my 924 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,120 life of like, hey, I'm just going to be positive about this. 925 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,320 Like I know God's got my back. I know that I might not have all 926 00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,720 the answers, but I have full faith in his plan. 927 00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,040 And when you truly walk in faith, like, you know, it just 928 00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,160 unlocks something that's completely, you just feel OK, 929 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,320 you know, and like the Philippians 413, I can do all 930 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,600 things through Christ who strengthens me. 931 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,280 I can get through cancer, you know, I can get through it with 932 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,880 like being a light and a voice and all those kinds of things. 933 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,640 And God, I mean, there we live or I mean, we starve a powerful 934 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,360 God, like something that we don't even I don't understand, 935 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,320 right? And so if you can truly just 936 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,480 walk in faith, knowing that this is just part of your journey, 937 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,120 don't miss the blessing on the other side of it, right? 938 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,360 Like as much as it's hard for me to say to go through something 939 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:15,080 so unfavorable, I do find that there is a blessing in this some 940 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,680 way. And I've already started to see 941 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,160 that, you know, and I really, I really just believe that like 942 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,920 wholeheartedly. And God's the thing that got me 943 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,640 through it with a positive, you know, attitude. 944 00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,720 I was even going into my mastectomy and she's like, I'm, 945 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,680 you're just so positive. I was like, Hey, I can choose to 946 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,600 be in a good mood and I can choose to be in a bad mood. 947 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,120 And there's one way to get through it that's 10 times more 948 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,680 favorable than the other and just believing in God's plan. 949 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,760 And just like I said, walking in full faith in that. 950 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,880 And it's, it's really changed a lot in my life because, you 951 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,320 know, this was a pretty big deal, obviously. 952 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,160 And to continue to do that even in this kind of a situation and 953 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,280 not change my character and really still lean on God even 954 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,000 more, oh gosh, it's incredible. And I'm actually, as much as 955 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,280 it's hard to say, I'm thankful for it. 956 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,240 Okay, I'm not usually speechless, but it's just so 957 00:45:02,240 --> 00:45:03,360 beautiful. Amen. 958 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,480 Amen. Amen. 959 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,760 Oh my goodness, oh so encouraging to me. 960 00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,120 It just and I hope it's encouraging to others just to 961 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,200 remember that like we are not promised an easy life. 962 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:17,600 You know, we're just not there will be suffering in our life, 963 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,720 but we know that a good God walks alongside us during that 964 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:23,320 suffering. Thank you for sharing things. 965 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,440 To really lean on that, like I promise, like I mean, it's just 966 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,480 truly incredible when you just fully immerse yourself in that. 967 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,960 It's life changing and it just, I don't know, there just does 968 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,160 something to you, you know, and then you just really feel like, 969 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,600 man, I can freaking do. Anything. 970 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:43,760 And then strangers see it in you and they're like, what is that? 971 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,040 It's the spirit, that's what it is. 972 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,960 It is the Holy Spirit, absolutely. 973 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,840 I fully believe that, yes. Oh my goodness. 974 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,200 OK, so a couple more questions for you as we finished out here. 975 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080 What's next for you and your peptide journey? 976 00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,400 I know this is part of your business now. 977 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,520 It's part of your personal life, your professional life. 978 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:02,840 Like what are you looking forward to with regards to 979 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,160 peptides? Honestly, the biggest thing is 980 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:08,640 impact. Like I just am so thankful what 981 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:12,080 this is doing for other people and continuing to increase my 982 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,080 knowledge like this is just, I mean, these are a godsend 983 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,000 really. I mean, to be able to give 984 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:22,400 people things that can truly change their health. 985 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,320 I mean, this isn't and it just goes so far beyond just looking 986 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,120 good in the mirror. Like that ends up kind of just 987 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:29,600 being the icing on the cake. Like everybody wants to look 988 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,560 good, right? But you can look good and feel 989 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,200 like crap, right? Like and not and stuff it with 990 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000 anxiety or depression and, you know, all those things that 991 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,000 affect, you know, the way you show up as a parent, the way you 992 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,040 show up as a friend or in your life, like going for the 993 00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:44,920 promotion or whatever the case may be, right? 994 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,640 Like these are truly life changing things that, you know, 995 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,880 that can, that people now have access to and just to be able to 996 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,680 be a vehicle for somebody. My, I'm fully immersed in that. 997 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:00,000 Like truly just going all in on the education and, you know, 998 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,720 looking at all these things like reading clinical literature, 999 00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:05,880 listening to podcasts instead of music during, during a workout 1000 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,400 or whatever, ever. Trying to fit every aspect of 1001 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,560 that into my day just to serve others wholeheartedly. 1002 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,320 And I really feel like that's one of the biggest things that 1003 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,000 we're put here to do is to find our gift and then give it away. 1004 00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,120 Beautifully said. So if people are looking for 1005 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,600 that gift, where can they find you? 1006 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,680 So you can most of the time is most on just Instagram. 1007 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,240 My Instagram handle is at Jessica Loftus dot jfit. 1008 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:29,720 So you can send me a message there. 1009 00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:31,880 I've got my website links on there. 1010 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:34,840 You can also just go ahead and find me on Facebook is just 1011 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,400 Jessica Loftus and my my website is body by jfit.com. 1012 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,480 So those are a few different places that you can find me. 1013 00:47:41,720 --> 00:47:45,440 Rad, I love it. You guys go follow her, go to 1014 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,800 Facebook, go to her website, go to Instagram. 1015 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,720 She is a fantastically inspiring woman in the peptide space and 1016 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,240 I'm so glad you got to hear from her today. 1017 00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,480 Jessica, thank you. Thank you for being here. 1018 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,640 Hey Jennifer, thank you so much for giving me another outlet 1019 00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:02,640 just to share my journey, my story, and just inspire and 1020 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,200 impact others. And super thankful to be here 1021 00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,760 with you today. Thank you and thank you to 1022 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,920 everyone who's listing today. We will see you next time on the 1023 00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:12,720 Peptides for Women podcast.