1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,200 The first thing to understand is that health is really a gift. 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,640 The idea of having that really open mindset that once you get 3 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,680 that right, that fuels everything else. 4 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,680 Now you can actually start to talk about longevity itself, 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,000 right? What are the actual things that 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,240 are driving aging? Things that are below the 7 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,360 surface of health. Shortening telomeres, 8 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,920 immunosenescent stem cells, wearing out, increased senescent 9 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,080 cells and inflammation, oxidative stress. 10 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:27,080 All these things are under the surface making us get older and 11 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,040 accelerating the rate at which we get older. 12 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,680 It's in our world, we work out every day, but we change our 13 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,040 workouts based on how ready our body is to take on load. 14 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:40,840 If the body has a a low heart rate variability mean it's it's 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,680 stressed either physically or emotionally, we'll do a lighter 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,720 workout. We'll do a recovery workout. 17 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:50,040 If we are well recovered and heart rate variability is high, 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:52,560 then we'll push harder. Sleep is massive. 19 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,840 We're very keen on people having a sanctuary to sleep in, right? 20 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,160 All right, we are live. Doctor Jeffrey Gladden. 21 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:00,480 How are you, Sir? Great. 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,000 How are you doing? I'm good man, Glad to hear. 23 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Always excited to learn about how to live longer, so I'm sure 24 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,760 we're going to dive into that at some point today. 25 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,520 Yeah, we might touch on that. Might touch on that. 26 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,880 So what what gets you into the longevity space anyways? 27 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Man It's like in the biohacking realm and keto carnivore dietary 28 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,200 circles. There's been this massive push 29 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,160 for just simply living longer, living optimally. 30 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,920 So what would get you intrigued by that field of study to begin 31 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,800 with? Yeah, so I, you know, my 32 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:28,720 background is interventional cardiology, right? 33 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:33,160 So I did that for 25 years here in Dallas and I love that work. 34 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,040 I did a lot of a lot of things in that space. 35 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,200 I found in my own heart group. I had 10 offices, 12 docs. 36 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,200 We flew around a little plane servicing outline areas, 37 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:45,120 starting heart attack programs, Cath labs, ending up Co founding 38 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,960 in a Heart Hospital here in Dallas with another cardiologist 39 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:52,160 and people at Baylor that's become nationally recognized and 40 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,240 has the number of satellite hospitals associated with it 41 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:58,800 now. And you know, I got involved 42 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,240 with medical device companies. I still sit on the board of one 43 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,000 doing interventional devices, kind of a legacy activity for 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,600 me. But but what happened for me was 45 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:10,240 in my 50s, had all this stuff going on and all of a sudden I'm 46 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:14,640 feeling exhausted all the time. I'm putting on weight around the 47 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:16,160 middle. I've always been athletic, 48 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,880 played soccer in college and basketball and stuff like that. 49 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,480 And when I would become stressed, I would get anxious 50 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,080 and then I would go over this Cliff of depression, like not go 51 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,400 for run and feel better. Talk to your buddy and feel 52 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,240 better. Just like, Oh my gosh, like I 53 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,680 went out of here kind of depression. 54 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,000 So you know, I'm obviously very concerned about that. 55 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,620 So I go into my, one of my colleagues and I get quote, UN 56 00:02:40,620 --> 00:02:43,560 quote tested. And what I was told was that, 57 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,440 you know, everything checks out for your age. 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,200 Everything looks, quote UN quote normal for your age. 59 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,160 You're just getting older. Why don't you take an 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,480 antidepressant? And it was one of the most 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,680 existential moments of my life because my dad died with 62 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,640 dementia. And so I'm thinking, Oh my gosh, 63 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:02,160 you know, I'm getting some brain fog on top of everything else 64 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,480 and it's like, it's just going to be downhill from here, right? 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,600 And so I, I was unwilling to accept that, right? 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,320 So I threw myself into the whole functional integrative age 67 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,800 management medicine space and did certifications, a lot of 68 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:17,520 CME, and it took Me 2 1/2 years at that point, of course, with 69 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,840 the help of other people, but I cracked the code on everything 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:24,400 that was going on, right. I had subclinical 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,920 hypothyroidism, meaning that my thyroid numbers look normal, but 72 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:32,560 reflex testing and biometric testing showed that I was 73 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:34,760 hypothyroid. I was not getting enough thyroid 74 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,240 activity at the cellular level. And then genetically I don't 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,560 convert. I'm homozygous for a SNP that 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,680 decreases my ability to convert inactive to active thyroid in my 77 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,960 brain by 60 to 80%. So once I got on the right 78 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:53,000 combination of active and inactive thyroid called T3 and 79 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:56,640 T4, normal Synthroid or T4 that's typically prescribed 80 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,320 would not have done it for me. It was like the lights came back 81 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,400 on. It's like, Oh my gosh. 82 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,640 And it's like, wow, that's amazing. 83 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,040 And then I don't make certain neurotransmitters sufficiently, 84 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 which I also figured out for my genetics. 85 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,440 So once I got on the right set of supplements to manage that 86 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:16,399 and help me make those properly, all of a sudden I didn't. 87 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,000 I could come under stress and I wouldn't get anxious and I 88 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,200 certainly wouldn't get depressed. 89 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,440 And if I felt myself getting a little depressed, all I do is 90 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:25,800 take one thing and I would feel better in 20 minutes. 91 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:29,520 I'm like, wow, that's amazing. And then I was also at a point 92 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,880 in my life where, you know, I was losing testosterone levels, 93 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:34,560 right? So when we go through menopause, 94 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:36,560 men go through andopause, as you're aware. 95 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,240 And so I got on some testosterone, some DHEA, and, 96 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,960 you know, lost 20 lbs of fat, put on 10 lbs of muscle. 97 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,000 And it's like, Oh my gosh, I feel amazing. 98 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:52,640 And at that point, I realized that I've been practicing sick 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,320 care, not health care. And I became so fascinated with 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:01,280 the idea of optimizing health and subsequently longevity that 101 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,840 I left cardiology and everything I knew how to make a living at. 102 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:08,200 I left all that in 2012 and pretty much base jumped into 103 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,600 starting a practice that's turned into glad and longevity. 104 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:16,840 Now we're we're, we're focused on really the target for us in 105 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:20,120 longevity is when we're 100 years old, we want to have a 30 106 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,920 year old body and a 300 year old mind. 107 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,800 Yeah, that's really the target. So yeah. 108 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,760 I like it. I like, I feel like the word 109 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:30,840 longevity, like I don't ever hear that when I go to a 110 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:32,840 conventional Western medicine doc. 111 00:05:32,840 --> 00:05:34,600 I mean, that's not even in the vocabulary it seems. 112 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,640 That's right. No, that's right there. 113 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,080 It's either it's either you're sick or you're or you're OK 114 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,320 Their term is Wellness, right? And I and I really kind of the 115 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,320 hair rises. I have a lot of hair on my head, 116 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,840 right? But the hair rises up on the 117 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:52,480 back of my neck when I, when I hear the word Wellness, because 118 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:56,280 it's such a weak word, right? It's like if we do a bunch of 119 00:05:56,280 --> 00:06:01,600 sick care testing and you don't have a disease, then, you know, 120 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,920 eat better, exercise. We'll see you back in a year. 121 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,800 And now we're in a Wellness program, right? 122 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,080 And I think that's such a disservice to people when really 123 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,680 what we want, I think what we want is to optimize. 124 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:15,360 We want to optimize health, longevity, activity, performance 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,480 and all that sort of thing. And I can walk you through kind 126 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:21,840 of how we think about all that. But but that's why I'm really so 127 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:26,320 passionate about helping people not only live a long time. 128 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,080 You know, when you think about longevity, it's kind of 129 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:29,440 abstract. Well, what does it even mean? 130 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,480 We're going to live a long time. We're going to be have a long 131 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,560 health span. We're going to, you know, health 132 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,240 gevities come into play. But for me, it's really that 133 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:38,560 target of I want to and I want to develop it Now. 134 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,760 If I'm going to have a 30 year old body at 100, I need to have 135 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,960 it now, right? And I've done 71 laps around 136 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,280 around the sun, but I, you know, I can do anything I want, right? 137 00:06:47,280 --> 00:06:50,720 And so I want to do that in 100 and I want to develop, continue 138 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,720 to develop my 300 year old mind, right? 139 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,440 And so this is how you really elevate your experience of being 140 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:58,160 a human. And to me, that's what longevity 141 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,600 is all about. Yeah, I definitely want to dive 142 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,120 into your specific framework, kind of how you take clients 143 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,040 through this, your patients when it comes like this general 144 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:10,840 population, where do you see people the the chasm really 145 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,320 starting to widen as far as like where people really start 146 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,040 dropping off a Cliff because like when you're young, when 147 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,880 you're teenage years, you know, you're pretty close trajectory 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,080 with all of your peers. But then, you know, 20s, 149 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,880 thirties, 40s, fifties hit and that gap just gets broader and 150 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,600 broader. And I I trying to compare myself 151 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:29,120 to others, but I'm guilty of it and I feel like I never had to 152 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,600 like regain my health. I'm never living in my glory 153 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,240 days. Like I'd legitimately feel 154 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,000 perform better with every year that passes. 155 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:39,200 And I look at, like, I work with clients that are, you know, 156 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,440 making up for lost time. They'll be like, 40-50 years 157 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,560 old, and they're trying to, like, relive their high school 158 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,880 glory days in football. And it's like they let 159 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,080 themselves go for a decade or 20 years. 160 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,320 And once they do that, making up for that ground becomes 161 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,200 exponentially harder. That's right. 162 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,520 When you're looking at the general population, where are 163 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,120 they going astray to begin with? Like where is the first 164 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,640 catalyzmic default that they're they're miss stepping on? 165 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,960 I think the first is taking health for granted. 166 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,080 I think that, you know, when we're young, let's say you 167 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:13,560 chronologically young, certainly as kids and even as teenagers, 168 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,440 we simply take it for granted. And then we, you know, we do 169 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,840 whatever educational process we're going to do, we get into 170 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,760 whatever profession we're going to go into. 171 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,640 And then for many of us, we start to leverage our health for 172 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,400 the sake of building our business or building our family 173 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,559 or building our community or some combination or all those 174 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:36,000 things. And, and because health has just 175 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,120 been a given, we, we, we sort of take it for granted. 176 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,799 And I think the first thing to understand is that health is 177 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:46,240 really a gift at any age. It's a gift. 178 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:52,160 And if you can allow people to get into a conscious framework 179 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:56,000 of, oh, this is really, this is really my greatest asset is my 180 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:59,000 health here. And I and I need to start 181 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,280 protecting it. Even as a teenage teenager, Like 182 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,560 if you could go into a high school and start to talk to, you 183 00:09:03,560 --> 00:09:06,560 know, their health classes or whatever it is and talk about 184 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:08,640 and you know, teenage don't listen anyway. 185 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,640 But the point is if you could maybe in maybe in maybe actually 186 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,760 in elementary school where people do listen and you could 187 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,760 start to talk about the the advantage. 188 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:21,960 And to your point, the fork in the road, it becomes so massive, 189 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,160 right? So massive. 190 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,760 And if you want to live young for a lifetime, which is really 191 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:31,360 what we're about how you live young for a lifetime, then, you 192 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,120 know, starting to take care of your health all the way through. 193 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:37,280 I think that's the first misstep that people make is they they, 194 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,240 they, they take it for granted, Therefore they leverage it to 195 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,200 build other things. And then it's like, Oh my gosh, 196 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,440 what happened? You know, I'm pre diabetic. 197 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,480 I gained 40 lbs and Oh my God, I can't get up the stairs. 198 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,920 Right. So yeah, we all see that. 199 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,600 So I mean, I don't want to derail the trajectory here, but 200 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,160 like, when you're talking about your framework, maybe that's the 201 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,520 the next place to go. But my question would be, you 202 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,960 know, what are the main primary pillars that people are taking 203 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:04,840 for granted when it comes to like their sleep, their 204 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,520 nutrition, their, their movement and activity like, and that's 205 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,840 probably intertwining to your strategy, but where do people 206 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,600 need to focus the majority of their time and effort? 207 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:17,520 Yeah, well, actually I wrote a book, 100 is the New 30, right? 208 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,240 And the subtitle is How Playing the Symphony of Longevity Will 209 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,040 Enable Us to Live Young for a Lifetime. 210 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:28,480 And in that book I outlined 4 different areas, and I've added 211 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,840 a fifth sense. And the first area, the most 212 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,760 important area, quite honestly, the circle that binds them all, 213 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,480 they're really circles, if you will, is the life energy circle. 214 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,160 And life energy circle basically has to do with the psycho 215 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:44,720 spiritual space, it has to do with mindset, it has to do with 216 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,400 mental health, it has to do with feeling loved, it has to do with 217 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,240 having great relationships, it has to do with sense of purpose, 218 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,200 it has to do with feeling worthy and has to do with being 219 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,560 spiritually aligned, being wise and feeling safe. 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,360 I think most anxiety, fear, worry, stress, when you devolve 221 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,440 down through, it really turns out to not feeling safe. 222 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,280 And so when you realize that unconditional love for yourself 223 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,000 is something that's an inside job that we ultimately give to 224 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,400 ourselves, Nobody ever got that from their parents, right? 225 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Nobody that I ever spoke to or did. 226 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,840 And we've all, we've all been traumatized. 227 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,040 I don't know anybody that hasn't lived through trauma, right? 228 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,400 So we all live in reaction to that trauma and going in and 229 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:30,200 healing that trauma, really understanding that, healing it, 230 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,640 forgiving all the parties involved, and then actually 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,600 transcending. It's where you become grateful 232 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,640 for everything that happened because it brought us to this 233 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:40,000 conversation here today, right? When you start to work through 234 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:44,400 these areas of your life and you stop living in reaction to 235 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,480 things that that cause you to go off the rails, right? 236 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,640 And you, you know, you solve the addictions, you solve the other 237 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,520 things that are happening, and then you start to feel safe 238 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:58,440 because just like love is a, is an inside job, feeling safe is 239 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:00,680 an inside job. Because what history's taught us 240 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,000 is that, you know, there's no amount of money, there's no 241 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:06,800 amount of followers, there's no education, there's no, you know, 242 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,760 family, all that can be taken away, all of it, right? 243 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,800 And, and, and almost a nanosecond, right. 244 00:12:12,560 --> 00:12:15,480 And so how do we ultimately feel safe, right? 245 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:19,160 Because when you start to solve those things, then you can start 246 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,520 to align with this sense of why am I here? 247 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,240 Why am I actually here? What's, what's my greater sense 248 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,400 of purpose? So when you work on the life 249 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,240 energy circle, all of a sudden now you've created the mindset 250 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:34,640 of, oh, I'm here for a reason and I don't, I'm not married to 251 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,440 my answers, right? We feel like we go through life 252 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,160 and it's our task to find our answers, right? 253 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:45,200 And yet what's true about that is that all answers have a shelf 254 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,760 life. All answers are incomplete, 255 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,240 right? It's the questions that actually 256 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:53,880 drive all progress. And what I found in my own 257 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,760 health journey was that I had answers. 258 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,260 I've been trained, I knew all kinds of stuff about, quote UN 259 00:12:59,260 --> 00:13:02,280 quote, cardiology and my colleagues all had answers, 260 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,000 right? And the problem was they were 261 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,040 all married to their answers. So it's like, well, you're just 262 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,960 getting older when you take an antidepressant. 263 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,120 And yet when I started asking different questions, like, no, I 264 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,880 don't want to do that, right? That's when I found new answers, 265 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,080 right? So it's so important to be 266 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:20,040 married to the questions and not the current answers, right? 267 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,680 And so in my practice, we're married to questions like how 268 00:13:22,680 --> 00:13:26,160 good can we be, right? How do we make 100 to new 30? 269 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,760 How do we live well beyond 120? How do we live young for a 270 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,600 lifetime? How do we develop a 300 year old 271 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,760 mind, right? And those questions that we wake 272 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,920 up to every morning drive the progress. 273 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,440 So it never puts us in a defensive posture. 274 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,760 We're trying to defend an answer or, or support an answer with 275 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,480 more evidence. It's like, no, we're open to 276 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:47,040 everything, right? It's like, sure that that works. 277 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,000 Let's try it, let's try this, let's try that, right? 278 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:54,600 So it's the idea of having that really open mindset, that growth 279 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:58,680 mindset that once you get that right, that fuels everything 280 00:13:58,680 --> 00:13:59,960 else. Now you can actually start to 281 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:02,600 talk about longevity itself, right? 282 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,920 What are the actual things that are driving aging? 283 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,200 And it's it's things that are below the surface of health. 284 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:15,280 So there are about 16 hallmarks of aging, which are biological 285 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,280 processes that aren't talked about, aren't really addressed, 286 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,320 that are actually driving the current in the river of aging, 287 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:23,560 right? Shortening telomeres, 288 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,120 immunosenescent stem cells, wearing out increased senescent 289 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,360 cells and inflammation, oxidative stress, dysregulated 290 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,120 micronutrients sensing and a gut Biome that doesn't work 291 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,680 properly. All these things are under the 292 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:40,920 surface, making us get older and accelerating the rate at which 293 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,040 we get older. It's an exponential curve, 294 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,120 right? We get faster the older we are 295 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,000 chronologically, the faster the rate of aging is, right? 296 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:53,880 And so part of the problem with it, though, is that we tend to 297 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,720 experience aging as linear. It's like every year I'm another 298 00:14:57,720 --> 00:14:59,840 year older. Well, I'm not much different, or 299 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,200 maybe I'm even better. I'm doing pretty good. 300 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,760 But in actual fact, it's an exponential game we're playing, 301 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,120 right? And if we ask ourselves, what am 302 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,840 I going to be like 20 years from now, right? 303 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,320 What am I going to be like? Ask yourself, the people 304 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,160 listening to this, you can ask yourself, what am I going to be 305 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,520 like 20 years from now? It's almost impossible to 306 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,720 imagine we're going to be any different than we are today. 307 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,000 So we're in an exponential game. Most of us don't know the cards 308 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,920 we're holding. We don't know our genetics, 309 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,680 right? We don't even know where we are 310 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,600 in the game from an aging standpoint. 311 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,920 And we are a mosaic of many, many biological ages, not a 312 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,120 single biological age. So we're playing an exponential 313 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,360 game. We're playing for keeps. 314 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:42,560 We don't know the cards we're holding. 315 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,640 We don't know where we are in the game, right, particularly 316 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,160 relative to the drivers of aging. 317 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,240 So the first place, that is to say, OK, well, let's see what 318 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,200 cards we're holding, where we are in the game. 319 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,480 Now we can, now we can make rational assessments on how to 320 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,400 go forward. And then of course, the health 321 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,720 circle is all the organ systems, sleep and everything else that 322 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:03,360 everybody's familiar with. We have lots of very cool ways 323 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:05,720 to go about all that, lots of regenerative medicine 324 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,360 technologies and many, many things we do here. 325 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,920 And then the last one's performance, right. 326 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,040 So the last circle before I get to the 5th is, you know, when 327 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,800 I'm 100, I want to be fast, agile, strong, quick balance, 328 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:21,680 great cardiovascular capacity, reserve recovery, flexibility. 329 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,200 But if we're going to be that at 100, I need to be at now, right? 330 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,720 And so I think most people start to acquiesce to the aging 331 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,680 process by referencing their own age. 332 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,960 So for me, I was born in 1954 in February, right? 333 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,400 I said I've done 71 laps, but I wake up 27 every day and waking 334 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:49,080 up 27 allows me to reference 27, right? 335 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,560 And it's like, if I don't feel 27, it's like, no, no, I'm 336 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,840 getting back to 27. Do you see the power of that? 337 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,040 It's like, how do I get back to 27? 338 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,040 I just trashed my knee in a, in an accident back in August and I 339 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,960 went in and I was told I needed a total knee replacement and I 340 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:08,280 said no. I think I'll take a different 341 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,960 tact. I've rebuilt my knee completely. 342 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,160 I'm back running faster than ever, right. 343 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,119 How do you do that? Well, it's by not identifying 344 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,200 with the medical system or your quote UN quote, chronological 345 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,079 agents. No, I'm 27, I can heal. 346 00:17:21,079 --> 00:17:23,119 I know how to heal. I can rebuild this, right? 347 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:28,840 So it's, it's, that's, that's what really the driver of of the 348 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,720 longevity process, if you will, is that kind of thought process. 349 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:35,920 I feel like a lot of people try and separate out the the 350 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,920 physiological from the psychological and they put them 351 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,720 in these own buckets. And totally integrate. 352 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,760 Yeah, massive disservice because like the brain is the body, like 353 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:48,880 they're one in the same. And I, I don't know what the 354 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,280 research shows, but when you have a specific mindset towards 355 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,920 something, it results in very tangible physiological changes. 356 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,200 I mean like 100%. I mean just using myself as an 357 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,240 example, like I literally never get sick. 358 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,000 Like I've been sick twice my entire life. 359 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,000 And I think a large part of the reason I never get sick is 360 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,840 because I confidently say that I never get sick. 361 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,640 As strange as that may sounds like I don't identify someone 362 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,400 that gets sick and I don't be sick. 363 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,680 Yeah, yeah, it's a piece of it. And we're all, we're all holding 364 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,200 different cards. So different people have 365 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,760 different challenges, right? Some people's immune systems are 366 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,480 not as robust or whatever else, right. 367 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,400 But nonetheless, having the mindset of how do I have a 368 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,120 robust immune system, right, leads you to finding the answers 369 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,960 for that, not identifying with, oh, I get sick all the time, 370 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,080 right. To your point, yeah, so. 371 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:38,360 So kind of going back to your initial circle that you were 372 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:43,240 talking about, using you as an example, what did you change in 373 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:45,680 your thought process that made you feel safe? 374 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,560 Like, if that's not where you were coming from originally, 375 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:52,000 what did you personally shift to feel that void of safety and 376 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:54,840 security in your life? Well, for me, it's, it's, it's 377 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,480 been a psycho spiritual journey, right. 378 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,840 So through some really profound deep meditation that I've done, 379 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,160 you know, when you do really deep meditation, and some of 380 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,880 this can be assisted or unassisted. 381 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,960 But when you do really deep meditation, I don't know if 382 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,360 you've ever had this experience yet, but but I either you have, 383 00:19:15,360 --> 00:19:17,640 right? I hope you will when you get 384 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,600 directly in touch with consciousness, God, source, you 385 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,520 know, whatever term you want to put on it, Oh my God, it is 386 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:28,680 nothing but pure love. It is pure love that's flowing 387 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:32,160 through everything. And when you think about the 388 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,920 pure love that's actually flowing to us that we're a part 389 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,120 of, and then you ask yourself, well, what is, you know, what is 390 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,160 love? Love to do? 391 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,280 Well, love loves to create. It loves to love, but it also 392 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,240 loves to create. Hence, we have this unfolding 393 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,520 universe, multiverse. You know, physics are showing us 394 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,000 that we had no idea what was actually going on right to JWST. 395 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:56,840 So, I mean, do we live in a black hole? 396 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,240 There's certainly a multiverse. CERN is showing us that they're 397 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:03,120 parallel universes. I mean, you know, quantum 398 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,680 computing is showing us parallel universes. 399 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,760 So the reality that we live in is so much more vast than what 400 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,160 we understand. The point is, love loves to 401 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,400 create. And what's the feedback loop on 402 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,920 that, right? It's joy. 403 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:22,440 So it's love creating joy. So when I connect to source and 404 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,240 know that I'm loved, profoundly loved, and then I'm part of the 405 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,960 creation process and that I'm here to from a loving place, 406 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,080 create joy for other people, for the listeners listening to this, 407 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,760 for you interviewing me, It's, it's, it's just all of a sudden 408 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,920 I'm safe. You can never take that away 409 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,920 from me, right? You can never take that away 410 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,240 from me. You can put me in a 411 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,280 concentration camp. You could, you know, whatever, 412 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,840 but you can't take that away from me. 413 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,600 That's where my ultimate safety comes from, from that psycho 414 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,120 spiritual journey, right? How did you get to the point 415 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:57,080 where you can meditate and connect to that depth? 416 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Like how? How did that come to be? 417 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,000 You know, I mentioned that in my 50s I was anxious and then I 418 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:09,920 would get depressed, right? So I started reading a book by a 419 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,480 guy named Eckhart Tolle, The Power of Now that was kind of my 420 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,920 introduction to this space, if you will, meditation, things 421 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,600 like that. And I've just found that I was, 422 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,080 I was reading the book and I wasn't reading it like you 423 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,120 would, you know, read it for information. 424 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,080 I was reading it because he was saying things that would 425 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,920 resonate with me in a way that would be like, oh, wow, I just 426 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,840 need to sit back and, you know, absorb that and just kind of let 427 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:36,240 that resonate with me. Right. 428 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,160 I had the experience one night of waking up. 429 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:46,520 This is about probably 20 years ago now, maybe a little more, 430 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,000 where I got up in the middle of the night, I'm reading this, I'm 431 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,320 reading. I picked up his book. 432 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,520 I couldn't sleep exactly. And I just went into this deep 433 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,880 trance and it was just, I was connected. 434 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,400 I was just completely connected. There was pure love across this 435 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,600 river. A river of love was flowing 436 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,520 through everything. And in that moment, I was 437 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,520 completely known and I knew completely this other loving 438 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,400 entity and I and it was knowing and being known and loving and 439 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,440 being loved. And it was absolutely perfect. 440 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,840 There was nothing left out. And it was telepathic 441 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,040 communication of this love and knowing, right? 442 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,800 And in that moment I realized, Oh my gosh, this is heaven. 443 00:22:28,360 --> 00:22:30,320 We talked about pearly gates, whatever else. 444 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800 It's all nonsense really. It's just knowing and being 445 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:36,280 known, loving and being loved. And so once I had that 446 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,720 experience, then I came to understand that that's actually 447 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,000 my definition of a great relationship is to know and be 448 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,120 known and to love and be loved, right? 449 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,080 And I was able to get there through meditation. 450 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,680 And then I was able to reenact that in my life with, you know, 451 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,680 close relationships, right? And that takes courageous 452 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,880 conversations, right? To be vulnerable to no one, be 453 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,960 known, right? So you have to have a willing 454 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,760 partner. But when you, when you go down 455 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,880 that path, it starts to reinforce itself. 456 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,760 And then I've also, you know, Full disclosure, there been 457 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:10,520 some, some in ethogens, right, which are, you know, psychedelic 458 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:13,920 experiences that have also been profound for me in terms of 459 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,440 actually resourcing, touching into, you know, source energy, 460 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,600 if you will. So yeah, anyway, it's after a 461 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,880 while it starts to rewire your brain. 462 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,000 You realize that no, I am safe, right? 463 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,760 I am safe and I'm here and I'm here to create joy. 464 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,720 And but it's a beautiful life. It's a beautiful life. 465 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,000 I love it so and then this and when you have that, it's like, 466 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:39,360 I'm not getting old, right? I'm here to to continue to 467 00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,000 expand, right? The other interesting thing is 468 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,880 that although aging is an exponential decline, our ability 469 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,080 to have impact and our opportunities go up 470 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,160 exponentially every decade. Also the other direction, right? 471 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,040 So what I want to do is stay young, say 30, let's say, and 472 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,200 have those opportunities and impact just continue to go up 473 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,000 exponentially. That's my that's my vision of 474 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,360 what it is to live, you know, in a longevity space, right? 475 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:08,200 Living young for a lifetime with a 300 year old mind. 476 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:13,280 And I do think there is massive benefit and I think we all 477 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,960 inherently know this, but we don't materialize it enough to 478 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,240 the point where we can like feel it and touch it and view it as 479 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,160 tangible. But like simply going through 480 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:27,360 life with a sense of purpose is probably the single best thing 481 00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:30,680 that I can that I can point to as to, you know, have all the 482 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,320 positive health outcomes as a result of that. 483 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,080 Because I see so many people that are just, you know, 484 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:38,000 treading water and life and are chronically unhappy. 485 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,560 And like, they're the ones that are getting sick. 486 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:41,480 They're the ones that have all these. 487 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,920 They're the ones that are depressed on medication that's 488 00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,520 right, overweight. You know, dealing with all these 489 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,160 issues, you have a sense of purpose that that seems to go on 490 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,560 the wayside. That's right. 491 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:56,000 And and I found that finding your purpose is kind of working 492 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,760 through the elements on the life energy circle enables you to be 493 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:04,320 in the right headspace, mind space, heart space to find your 494 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,640 purpose to to start to live your purpose, right. 495 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,760 That's how I was able to, you know, find the purpose that I 496 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,800 just described for you because I think that that is my purpose 497 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,440 from a loving place to create joy. 498 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,840 Yeah. Yeah, no, that's awesome, man. 499 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,920 So when you when you work with people like what, what is your 500 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,240 typical patient demographic avatar? 501 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,520 Like what are they going through we're dealing with that 502 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,080 incentivizes them to come to you and motivates them to come to 503 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,280 you. And then what does that look 504 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,560 like, you know, tangibly over time with them? 505 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,240 Sure. So the way I frame it up is that 506 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,840 people come to us asking different questions, right? 507 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:44,720 So they could, you know, we just had a woman out of the Dakotas 508 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,280 that came down to us with intractable psoriasis. 509 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,720 It's like, oh, OK, well, nobody's actually ever really 510 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,920 bothered to deconstruct the situation. 511 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,120 I think we have tons of regenerative technologies here. 512 00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:00,280 We build all kinds of stuff. But I think the miss, the 513 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,880 missing piece for most people is that they don't, they haven't 514 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,360 gone through a process to deconstruct the situation to 515 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:09,000 understand why, why is this happening in the 1st place, 516 00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,680 right. And so for this, for this woman, 517 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,720 we were able to deconstruct her situation, do a couple of 518 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,360 different regenerative technologies for a while here. 519 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,720 She went back home three days later, she was 85 to 90% better. 520 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,680 Now she's been able to start working out again. 521 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,240 She's on Nomad. She was slathering on, you know, 522 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,680 cortisone steroid creams to kind of keep the inflammation under 523 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,800 control on her hands and feet so she could work. 524 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,040 She's off those, right? And it's not because we're 525 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,120 magical, it's just because we actually take the time to 526 00:26:40,120 --> 00:26:42,200 understand why is this happening in the 1st place. 527 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,400 And it happens for a variety of reasons, right? 528 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,000 There's a, there's a psychological component for her. 529 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040 There was a food component, there was a gut component. 530 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,800 There was, you know, some other elements that went into some 531 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,400 genetic components as well, right. 532 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,440 So once you actually understand that, you start to understand 533 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,520 the system, you can actually shift things around. 534 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,760 So we do that over and over and over again. 535 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:02,640 We have other people that come to us. 536 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,160 We had a young woman that just came to us with three young kids 537 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,800 diagnosed with breast cancer. And it's like, what can you do 538 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,400 to help me? And it's like, well, we, we do a 539 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,920 lot in the cancer space. We're not cancer doctors, but we 540 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,000 can do a lot to support other things that you have going on. 541 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,360 And so we'll be working with her. 542 00:27:21,360 --> 00:27:22,840 Why did she get it in the first place? 543 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:24,880 Right. Nobody's asking that question. 544 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,880 They just want to treat it. And so when you deconstruct 545 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,320 problems thoroughly, you find there's all kinds of solutions 546 00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,240 and answers there that other people have overlooked. 547 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,720 So that's part of our approach. And then we have people that 548 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,120 come to us, you know, in their 70s or whatever. 549 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,400 We had a woman out of Aspen that came in, was in a skiing 550 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,800 accident, had head trauma, lost her husband a few years ago. 551 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,440 Psychological trauma used to be very sort of life of the party 552 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,760 kind of personality, could no longer really keep track of the 553 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,640 conversations and was kind of losing her friend group and 554 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,200 things. We came down here, we figured 555 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,520 out what the problem was. We rebuilt her brain, right, 556 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,800 with combination of regenerative technologies, transcranial 557 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,600 magnetic stimulation, different peptide supplements, things like 558 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,040 that. She's back now living her life, 559 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,640 right. So again, it's the 560 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,160 deconstruction that enables you to actually have the right 561 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,720 solution. That's why we're never married 562 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080 to the to the answers. We're only married to the 563 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,560 question, how is this happening? What do we need to understand 564 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,640 here? So, so we work with everybody. 565 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,640 We work with executives to just want to, they don't want to sell 566 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,200 their company. They want to have five more and 567 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,760 keep, you know, keep blowing and going till they're 150. 568 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:30,560 It's like, great, we can help you with that. 569 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,560 So yeah. I feel like there's no such 570 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,280 thing as maintenance. Like I don't believe it exists. 571 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,800 You're you're getting better or you're getting worse. 572 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,760 That's right. And I feel like when you look at 573 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000 that gap in the road, that fork in the road widening, it's a 574 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,400 result of the compounding impact of what people are doing in 575 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,240 their day-to-day activities. 100%. 576 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Better or worse. So you're looking at someone, 577 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,160 you're looking at your patient pool and you're looking at 578 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,840 people that are trending in the right direction versus 579 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,960 declining. What are like the the common 580 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,280 denominators for the positive things they're doing versus that 581 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,120 of the negative ones that are creating the most havoc? 582 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,040 Well, the first is that we have a way to actually measure the 583 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,680 stress that somebody's carrying in their system, in their 584 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,440 nervous system, right? So once we actually understand 585 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,520 how much stress, so they can walk in here and say I'm not 586 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,120 stressed at all, it's like, OK, great. 587 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,400 We measure them. It's like, well, actually your 588 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,720 nervous system is telling a different story, right? 589 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,320 There's actually a lot of stress here. 590 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,200 And then we start to go into, you know, what's that all about? 591 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:36,080 Well, it's this, it's that we have counselors that we work 592 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,360 with on our, on our staff, if you will, that are very, very 593 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,320 adapted in a loving way, getting to know people and understanding 594 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640 some of the old traumas that they're still carrying in their 595 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,200 nervous system, in their systems. 596 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,160 And so for people to actually win at this, it's really 597 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,600 important to kind of get out that stuff and be able to heal 598 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,160 that stuff, as I mentioned, because that gets in the way, 599 00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:58,360 right? Your nervous system. 600 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:01,400 In fact, I, I, I tell many clients this, that all of life 601 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,560 comes down to one thing, right? Just one thing. 602 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,040 And that one thing is optimizing your nervous system, right? 603 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,880 Well, how do you think what you feel, what you believe is true, 604 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320 what you think is possible, what you believe about the past, 605 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:16,480 about your future, how you move through space, all of it. 606 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520 It's all about the nervous system, right? 607 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,360 And so when people understand that and they see all the stress 608 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,880 they're carrying, and one of the first things we do is to work on 609 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,800 decreasing that stress, resolving the issues that are 610 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,840 causing that stress, right? And then in addition to that, of 611 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,920 course, we look at, you know, those drivers of aging, right? 612 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,320 Where are they relative to those? 613 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,200 OK, well, let's see what's happening there. 614 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,280 And then we look at all the health associated things, what's 615 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320 going on with your gut bio and what's going on with your sleep, 616 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,560 what's going on with your cardiovascular, VO2 Max, 617 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,240 etcetera, etcetera. We test all this. 618 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,360 And then, and then we look at performance, you know, being 619 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,040 fast, agile, strong, quick balance, how, how good are you 620 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,880 at all those things, right? So, and then we basically start 621 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,560 to build a program that that gets them where they want to go. 622 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:01,360 So they play the best golf of their lives. 623 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,360 They race car drivers come in and they, they, they think 624 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,360 they're going to retire now they're finishing in the top 625 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,040 three again, you know, all kinds of stuff. 626 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,320 And, but it starts with people knowing really what's possible. 627 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,920 And, and, and 1st, you've got to actually be asking the right 628 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,160 questions. You got to believe it's 629 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:18,760 possible. And then you got to realize that 630 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,200 my nervous system is carrying stuff I've been living in 631 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,040 reaction to my whole life. Let's clear out, let's clear and 632 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,360 resolve that out. So I, my body is free. 633 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,960 I call it unencumbered. We become unencumbered to live 634 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,520 the full expression of who we are. 635 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,160 And when you do that, your body gets so light, your health 636 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,640 improves so dramatically because you're no longer carrying all 637 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,640 that stress. So that's, that's part of it. 638 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,320 How? Are you testing and measuring 639 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,400 their stress load? I mean, is it like a? 640 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,480 Yeah, we're looking, we're looking at the at the balance 641 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,880 between sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system 642 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,760 through a couple different lenses actually. 643 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:57,440 And with that we get reports that basically will give us a 644 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800 good idea of kind of how stressed or not stressed they 645 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,160 are and then? Looking at a specific biomarker 646 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:07,280 or range of biomarkers. Yeah, it's, it's basically, 647 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,080 you're familiar with heart rate variability, right? 648 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,320 So that's basically heart rate variability is a function of, of 649 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,760 the balance between sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous 650 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,040 system. So just for the audience, and 651 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,320 you're probably familiar with this, but you've got an 652 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,520 autonomic nervous system through the basal part of your brain 653 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000 called the reptilian brain is controlling your heart rate, 654 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,920 your respirations, your body temperature, you know, dilation 655 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,000 of arteries, all that stuff running through the autonomic 656 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,120 nervous system. You could almost think of it as 657 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:37,440 automatic nervous system. If you're a Yogi, you learn to 658 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,160 control that, right? You get so in touch with your 659 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,200 nervous system that you can actually change your heart rate. 660 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,600 You can, you can sit out in the Blizzard and actually have the 661 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,160 snow melting off of you because you can control your body 662 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,760 temperature, right. So, but it's the autonomic 663 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040 nervous system. And so the, there's, there's a 664 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:56,520 gas pedal and a brake pedal in there. 665 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,680 There's a sympathetic nervous system, which is a bearish 666 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,120 coming through the door. Oh my gosh. 667 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,360 Let's, you know, do whatever we need to do to take care of that. 668 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,640 And then there's a parasympathetic nervous system, 669 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,760 which is kind of the Zen relaxation, like, Oh yeah, I'm 670 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,160 connected, everything is good, everything is beautiful, right. 671 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,840 So in, in your car, you're either on the gas or the brake 672 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:16,680 in your body. You're on both pedals at the 673 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,640 same time. It's just a question of balance 674 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,640 and we can measure that balance through something called heart 675 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,600 rate variability. So heart rate variability is 676 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,040 not, well, my heart rate is 60 now I ran up the stairs and now 677 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,760 it's 80. That's not heart rate, that's 678 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,080 variation in heart rate. Heart rate variability is the 679 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,160 difference between the distance between heartbeats one to the 680 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,480 next to the next and how it's impacted by respiration 681 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,000 increasing when we, when we inspire, decreasing with the 682 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,360 expire. And the more parasympathetic 683 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,400 nervous system tone that there is, the more sloppy that 684 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,840 connection gets, the bigger the variation right when the bears 685 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,720 coming through the door, everything gets regimented right 686 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,520 for little, very little variation. 687 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,680 So when heart rate variability is low, people are under stress. 688 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,240 When it's high, they're relaxed, and that's something we can 689 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,840 measure and then interpret through numerous different 690 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,320 filters to get a better idea of kind of where it's coming from. 691 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,440 So yeah, there's a lot of people. 692 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,360 Using like aura rings for instance that measures HRV lot. 693 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,480 Lot of devices now are measuring HRV, Apple. 694 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:23,639 Watch Garmin, All of them. Yeah, Do you? 695 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,199 Like a lot of people, you know, totally change their day day 696 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,600 activities based off of what they're ordering is suggesting 697 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,960 to do that day or vice versa and not look at it at all. 698 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,040 Do you put much stock in those wearables and what people should 699 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,000 do accordingly? I do. 700 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:43,080 I think, you know, in our world, we work out every day, right? 701 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:48,560 We work out seven days a week. But we change our workouts based 702 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,719 on how ready our body is to take on load, right. 703 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,640 So if the body has a a low heart rate variability mean it's, it's 704 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,440 stressed either physically or emotionally, we'll do a lighter 705 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,520 workout. We'll do a recovery workout, 706 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,000 we'll do balance training, we'll do motion or yoga or things like 707 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,200 that. We're doing something, but we're 708 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,360 not necessarily trying to set APR. 709 00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:16,120 If, if we are well recovered and heart rate variability is high, 710 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,640 then we'll push harder. We'll do a harder mountain bike 711 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:23,760 ride, a longer ride, a longer run, a heavier load if we're 712 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,600 doing resistance training. So that's kind of how we tend to 713 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,440 use it. Yeah. 714 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,000 Got you. When it comes to nutrition, you 715 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,520 know, I like like talking nutrition. 716 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,640 I feel like that's something that most people are doing 717 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,760 fasting or taking part in every single day. 718 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,040 The compounding effect of that over a lifetime can be quite 719 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:41,480 prominent. Do you have a stance on 720 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,000 nutrition like in working with your people over the years? 721 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,640 Some of the denominators there's like most people should probably 722 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,560 follow this general rule of thumb around nutrition, no? 723 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,560 We don't have that. And the reason is that the what 724 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,360 we found is that the problem with every diet is that it comes 725 00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:03,640 with a prescription of this is how you should do and this is 726 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,800 what you should eat. Again, we're back in the mindset 727 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,880 of who's this individual? How are they constructed, right? 728 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,600 And what's actually good for them? 729 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,280 So what are their genetics, right? 730 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,320 What's their gut Biome like? What's their ability to digest 731 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,880 certain foods, right? How many copies of the amylase 732 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,880 gene do they have? But can they tolerate more 733 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,560 carbs, fewer carbs? What's their apple E for? 734 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,560 Do they do bad on a high fat diet? 735 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,960 Is that actually accelerating heart disease and dementia for 736 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,520 them or is it actually the right thing? 737 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,720 So until you actually deconstruct the situation and 738 00:36:35,720 --> 00:36:38,240 then you understand how their immune system is reacting to 739 00:36:38,240 --> 00:36:41,840 certain foods, from our standpoint, it's at that point 740 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,000 you can actually say, oh, OK, here's where you are. 741 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:45,880 Here are the foods that I think are going to be best for you. 742 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,400 And this is the way I would go about it. 743 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,880 So that that's kind of how we think. 744 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Again, it's built. It's all built on deconstruction 745 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,880 before recommendations. Probably not seen anybody 746 00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,120 benefit. From a highly processed, hyper 747 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,440 palpable diet though, right? Well, there are things to. 748 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,920 Universally avoid. There are things to universally 749 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:04,760 avoid. That's right. 750 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,720 So, you know, sugar, high processed foods, too much 751 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:13,120 alcohol, you know, a little bit of alcohol is actually good. 752 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,280 It increases enzyme called alcohol dehydrogenase, which 753 00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,960 actually is the longevity enzyme. 754 00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,520 But we find that the people in our program that do the best are 755 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,240 drinking very little or not at all or, you know, occasionally 756 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,120 or something like that, but they're not like having drinks 757 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,240 every night kind of thing. So yeah, what about? 758 00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:32,000 Sleep. So like when you're looking at 759 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,800 an individual, their biomarkers, feedback, what are you looking 760 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:40,880 for as it pertains to sleep and what emphasis would you put on 761 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,520 optimizing sleep for massive role markers? 762 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:44,800 Massive. It's massive. 763 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:50,480 Sleep is massive and we all get kind of jerked around, you know, 764 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,640 with travel time zone changes, you know, speaking here, going 765 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:55,360 to this conference, all that kind of thing, right? 766 00:37:55,360 --> 00:38:00,040 So we've, we have our own routines for that, right? 767 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,880 And we, we're very keen on people having a sanctuary to 768 00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,680 sleep in, right? Whether or not watching TV where 769 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,920 it's cold, where they have a chili pad or a cooling mattress 770 00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,440 room is cold, it's quiet, blackout curtains, true dark 771 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:18,360 glasses, everything that can kind of get yourself in phase 772 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,600 for sleep. We like using something called 773 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,680 brain tap, which can actually, or there are other devices too 774 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,640 that actually can put your entrain your, your brain into a 775 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:33,480 delta wave and trainment, which is basically a sleep brain wave, 776 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,920 which can actually then just kind of take you down and go to 777 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,760 sleep. We like melatonin not because it 778 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:45,480 makes you sleepy and there are people for whom melatonin is not 779 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,680 the best thing because it can raise morning blood sugar in 780 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,640 some people. But melatonin has a, an impact 781 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,520 that most people are not aware of, which is that it actually 782 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,440 keeps alive stem cells right in the third ventricle of your 783 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640 brain. And those stem cells in the 784 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,840 third ventricle of the hypothalamus are, are actually 785 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,520 keeping you young. They're they're releasing 786 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,760 exosomes to tell your body to stay young. 787 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,160 And melatonin is what feeds them. 788 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,680 So there's lots of reasons on the longevity side to use 789 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,800 melatonin if it's if, again, if it's the right thing for you, 790 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,720 right? And then there are things like L 791 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,320 theanine that can relax the system, magnesium, things like 792 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,720 that. And if I wake up in the middle 793 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:29,800 of the night, I'll put the brain tap back on and knock myself 794 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,800 back out. So yeah, is it like an app or 795 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:33,840 something? I'm not familiar with that. 796 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,000 It's an app. Yeah, it's an app. 797 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,840 And it's a headset, so which is basically. 798 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,720 Playing Audible, Yeah, it's a. Combination of binaural beats, 799 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,880 if you're familiar with those. So it's a little different 800 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,720 frequency in each air, which which basically the brain is a 801 00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:49,200 little bit trying to put that together. 802 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,200 So it kind of brings it into a A state, right? 803 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,400 Maybe you've heard of Hemisync. I don't know if you're familiar 804 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,000 with that. So it's a little bit like that. 805 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,400 That's what Hemisync's about is binaural beats to kind of put 806 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,000 the brain and fuse the two halves together to try to make 807 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,240 sense of what it's hearing. And then this is also used as 808 00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:09,280 photobiomodulation. So you have flashing lights 809 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,120 through your eyes are closed, but flashing lights through your 810 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,000 eyes and through the blood vessels in the ears and that 811 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,680 combination. You get the right intensity of 812 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,760 the light, the right volume, and it's just like, whoa, you just 813 00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,040 go. You can go into a really deep 814 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,200 meditative state very quickly. We find it's also great for 815 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,200 retraining the nervous system to be able to have less stress in 816 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,280 it. So totally. 817 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,720 What do you feel about them? People have this preconceived 818 00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:38,600 notion of what the number of, you know, years is that would 819 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,360 qualify them as old over the hill or whatever the case may 820 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,240 be. But they kind of like get to 821 00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:46,600 this stage in life where they associate that with a certain, 822 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,200 you know, lifestyle, certain environmental factors. 823 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,560 Just think they start today already saying, OK, I'm X amount 824 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,640 of years, I'm old, I've only got X amount of years remaining. 825 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,600 Where do you think we should reframe our thinking towards 826 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,880 chronological age? Like how should we view 120 827 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,200 years? Like what should we associate 828 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,560 with that? What would that look like? 829 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,840 What what is the ideal lifespan of a human being? 830 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,120 I think we should pay. Very little attention to 831 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,120 chronological years. Quite honestly. 832 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,640 I think it's a reason I wake up 27 every day and I have. 833 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,840 And the reason I'm 27 is I'll be 27 this decade, 28 next decade, 834 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,680 29 the next day, decade. When I'm 100, I'll be 30, right? 835 00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:26,360 So the book is 100 is the new 30. 836 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,640 So I think what we encourage each of our clients to do is to 837 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,800 pick an age they want to be for the rest of their lives and 838 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,760 reference that age. If you're listening to this, 839 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,080 think about what age would you like to be for the rest of your 840 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:42,720 life. Some people it's 424035332618. 841 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,080 Doesn't matter. The what matters is that it's a 842 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,280 time in your life when you felt great physically, you felt 843 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,200 great, right? And it's like reference that. 844 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,360 And that's the only age that really matters is the age that 845 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,560 you believe you are, just like you believe you don't get sick 846 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,760 and you don't get sick. Reference that age and then keep 847 00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,840 referencing that back. If you wake up and you don't 848 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160 feel that age, just like, oh, well, what do I need to do to 849 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040 get back to where I really am, right? 850 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,640 Because once you say, well, I wake up and I'm, I'm old or I 851 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,440 whatever, it's, you know, the game's over. 852 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,400 You've already, you've already lost, quite honestly, you've 853 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,880 already thrown in the towel, right? 854 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,800 So when I hurt my knee and I was told I need a total knee 855 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,440 replacement, I, I will tell you existentially, I went through 856 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,880 this thing is, is now the time? Is this the time when I give up 857 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:30,400 the fact that I'm 27, right? Is this what this is saying to 858 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,560 me? And I'm like, no, no, not going 859 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,840 to do it. I'm 27 and I'm going to get back 860 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,120 to 27 and that, that, you know, cleaning that and then asking 861 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,280 the questions to get me there is how I'm back at 27. 862 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:46,240 So there you go. I like it. 863 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,400 What about the the biological age? 864 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,000 I feel like we like to quantify things, like to put a numerical 865 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,640 value on things. So not looking at chronological 866 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,880 age, but putting emphasis on biological age. 867 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,640 What is that? What is that number generated 868 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,920 from? What are they testing to reach 869 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,000 that biological age? Well, the first thing to 870 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,720 understand. Is that you are a mosaic of 871 00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,960 many, many, many biological ages. 872 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,440 So the fact that you think you have one biological age is 873 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,520 probably the greatest disservice you can ever do to yourself, 874 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,040 right. So Brian Johnson with his 875 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,320 longevity Olympics, right? We were very high performers in 876 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:23,000 that, but we didn't we we did not condone the test at all, 877 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,600 right? Because they're looking at one 878 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,920 single metric of rate of aging. But we have people with a rate 879 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,200 of aging that's very low. But you look at their their 880 00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,640 other biological ages, they're very old. 881 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,720 And so it's a complete misnomer and a total disservice to 882 00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:41,640 yourself to think that there's only one biological age, right? 883 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:45,600 I can't emphasize that enough. It's really important to know, 884 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,680 OK, well, what's my brain age? What's my eye age? 885 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,760 What's my hearing age? What's my heart age, my blood 886 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,840 vessel age, my telomeric age, my stem cell age, immune system 887 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,440 age? If you don't know those ages, 888 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,240 you really have no idea what you're talking about. 889 00:43:56,240 --> 00:43:59,480 So to think that there's one biological age is really 890 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,400 probably one of the greatest disservices that this whole 891 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:06,040 field is done to people. So yeah, that's kind of where I 892 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,800 want. To take it next, like this field 893 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:12,520 of study in longevity has become significant more popular, where 894 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:16,320 are people being LED astray? I mean, I guess that being one 895 00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,040 of the main, that's one of them. It's right there. 896 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,000 What? What else? 897 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,280 Like what do people? Need to be wary of people that 898 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:22,680 are diving into this. Like what? 899 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,320 What is the what kind of differentiates the charlatans 900 00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:26,640 from those trying to do it right, I guess. 901 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,800 Well, I think you know there are. 902 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,600 People that are going down a particular path and they're 903 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,320 having success with it and now everybody needs to do that. 904 00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:38,640 That's another complete red flag because we're all different, 905 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,160 right? We're, we're built differently, 906 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,200 different genetics, different backgrounds, different 907 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:44,680 everything. And, and it's what's so 908 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,720 important is to understand that, that you can actually shine, but 909 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,440 you have to know who you are to be able to shine in the way that 910 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,720 you were built to shine. And there are many people that 911 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,440 will do well with a particular program or another program or 912 00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,880 another program, but you don't know who you are until you kind 913 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,080 of do the work to deconstruct that. 914 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,800 So I think that's really a disservice to people because 915 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,200 people get very emphatic, they get married to an answer and 916 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:12,240 they start to preach this answer as if it's gospel and it's, it's 917 00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,240 simply just as not right. It's a great answer for them, 918 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,240 but it may not be a great answer for the person next to them. 919 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,920 So yeah, yeah, totally agree. When people ask you how old you 920 00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:24,560 are, do you say 71 or 2727? Yeah, I'm 20. 921 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:25,840 Seven. Yeah. 27. 922 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,080 Why not? I'm 27. 923 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,440 Right? Prove me wrong. 924 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:29,600 Right. Prove me wrong. 925 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,200 I like it. I like it. 926 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,880 Well, now that you've got you know, who knows how many 927 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,640 chronological years ahead of you because you identify as 27, 928 00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,200 What's get you excited going forward in the future? 929 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,120 I feel like that's key too. Like simply waking up with 930 00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,000 excitement for what lies ahead as opposed to reminiscing 931 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120 non-stop. Let's get you excited. 932 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:48,960 Oh, everything. Right. 933 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,200 I feel like really in the next three to five years, we're going 934 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,960 to crack the code on aging completely. 935 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,480 So that's got me super excited. There's so many cool 936 00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:00,640 technologies coming down. Started another company that's 937 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,920 taking what we do globally. We want to my, my mission is to 938 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,920 change the glide path of aging for the entire planet, right? 939 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,080 I want everybody to benefit from information about how to live an 940 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:17,120 uncomfort life, powerful life energy circle, solve the 941 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520 problems related to the aging process. 942 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:23,040 Because I really want to see people instead of all this pain, 943 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,160 suffering and decline, right? What if all that was transmuted 944 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:30,240 into people that were energetic and enthused and and creating 945 00:46:30,240 --> 00:46:33,400 new solutions for for the planet, for each other, right? 946 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,200 What a what a beautiful world this would be. 947 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,680 So I'm really dedicated to helping take humanity down that 948 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:39,520 path. Yeah. 949 00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,080 So I guess we excited every day I had. 950 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,480 AI forget the the guest I had on that a guest on month or two 951 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,480 back and they were talking about the technologies that are coming 952 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,200 out in the near future that will be game changing from an anti 953 00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,800 ageing standpoint. That's right. 954 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,440 So much so that they were recommending that people look 955 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,520 into, I mean, basically suggesting that you could freeze 956 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,640 your body now and then within the next 50 years for sure, the 957 00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,480 technologies would exist to basically sure rejuvenate those 958 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,840 tissues, those cells, because they don't necessarily die. 959 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,600 I mean, when he gave the example of like when somebody is an 960 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:18,040 organ donor, you know, they take those organs and those are fully 961 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,560 functional organs that they can then transplant so the tissue 962 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:24,360 itself doesn't die. So what what's your stance on 963 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:25,160 that? Or do you have one? 964 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,280 Well, there's there's. Cryopreservation, which is kind 965 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,760 of what you're talking about. And there are quite a few people 966 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,760 that we had one client that did this actually, who had very 967 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,240 advanced breast cancer. And ultimately we weren't able 968 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:40,280 to turn the tide. People get to a point where 969 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,480 their immune systems are so depleted that they just don't 970 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,080 have enough to fight back, right? 971 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,240 And so in this case, this individual died and her her 972 00:47:49,240 --> 00:47:52,960 loved ones decided to have her cryopreserved, right, waiting 973 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,160 for the day when she could be, you know, brought back. 974 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:58,840 And so I think those technologies will come. 975 00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,360 I think the technologies for those of us that are alive right 976 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,880 now, however, we'll be here in the next three to five years 977 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:09,400 where we can pretty much halt aging, start to really reverse 978 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,440 it. We're already doing that, right? 979 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,760 We see all the ages we measure, we see people going back in 980 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,680 time, right, relative to many, many things, many metrics, 981 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:20,640 right? And so I'm not claiming that 982 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:23,400 we're reversing aging, but I'm saying that we're moving people 983 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:27,080 back to certainly much younger, you know, status, if you will, 984 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:29,880 with regards to immune system, cardiovascular function, brain 985 00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:31,480 function, you know, you name it, right? 986 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,520 So I really think we're going to get to a point where we do crack 987 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,320 the code on that. And it's interesting because 988 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,120 then it raises this existential question of, OK, right, You're 989 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,080 going to be here for a long time, right? 990 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,720 You're going to be 30 years old for a long, long, long time. 991 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,880 So now when I give this talk, I ask, you know, so now let me ask 992 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,880 you 3 questions. The first one is what's the 993 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480 meaning of life, right? If you're going to be here for a 994 00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,200 long time, what's the meaning of life? 995 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,000 And then what's your purpose, right? 996 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:03,640 And then the third question is, if you're going to focus on one 997 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,920 thing, what's the one thing to focus on, right? 998 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,920 If you're going to optimize all this, right? 999 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,000 And then it's interesting. I have people share their 1000 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,520 answers and they're all good answers. 1001 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,360 There's no bad answers here, but it's, it's, it's interesting. 1002 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,640 And then I share the answers that I've shared with you about 1003 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,480 love, creating joy. I think that's really the 1004 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,720 meaning of life and it's my purpose in life. 1005 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:25,760 And then the one thing I focus on is optimizing my nervous 1006 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,000 system, right? It's interesting. 1007 00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,960 Even workouts are not about the muscle in my world anymore. 1008 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,800 It's all about the nervous system, right? 1009 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,400 Your, your, your nervous system gets stronger and firing before 1010 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,000 your muscle even starts hypertrophy. 1011 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,960 So, and how you move through space, your sense of balance, 1012 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,080 proprioception. You saw me drop this pen earlier 1013 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,760 and I caught it, right? That's from that's from training 1014 00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,040 my nervous system, right? You want to move like a ninja. 1015 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:49,600 You want to. That's what you want. 1016 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,320 And it's all nervous system control. 1017 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,000 So I'm completely. On the same page and on board 1018 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,680 with, you know, improving health span, improving lifespan, 1019 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,920 improving outlook and mindsets because I feel like if you get a 1020 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,960 population of people that are able to live longer, I mean you 1021 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,440 get smarter as you age. Hopefully that's right and 1022 00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,760 you're able to you're. Able. 1023 00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:14,640 To contribute exponentially more in your later years, so to be 1024 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,400 encumbered by that contribution as a result of physical decline 1025 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,680 is just a disservice for humanity. 1026 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,680 I'm only on board there. All of this does raise the 1027 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:28,160 question of if we have significantly longer life spans, 1028 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,520 more people on the planet, you know, you're going to get the 1029 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,880 people that are bringing, raising awareness about 1030 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,480 overpopulation in the planet not being able to support that 1031 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,000 increase, you know, population size. 1032 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:40,480 You have a take on that one way or the other. 1033 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,080 Yeah, I don't think. That's a problem, quite 1034 00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,640 honestly. I think of the planets, you 1035 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:48,440 know, resources were used in a more or less called a more 1036 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,120 responsible way. There'd be plenty of resources 1037 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:56,000 for us to, to use and, and it would not be a problem. 1038 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,320 So I think there's some issues there around how we're utilizing 1039 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:00,120 the resources. I think the other interesting 1040 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,080 thing is that people are talking about the next billion that 1041 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,840 we'll get to is not 9 billion, but 7 billion, right? 1042 00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:10,640 Because there's really a dearth of, of new babies being born, 1043 00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,200 right? I mean, you, there's a lot of 1044 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,800 population decline. You know, look at Italy, look at 1045 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,360 many of these countries, even China, populations are 1046 00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,120 decreasing, not increasing, right, Even in the US. 1047 00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:24,720 So I'm not really worried about overpopulation. 1048 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:31,920 And I think having a robust group of energetic, wise, loving 1049 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,640 people that have some life experience also will be a great 1050 00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,600 asset to to humanity is what I would say. 1051 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,600 Yeah, I agree. What do you think the reason for 1052 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,240 the population decline is on the global scale that we're seeing 1053 00:51:45,240 --> 00:51:46,840 now? You know it's a. 1054 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,160 Good question. I, I've had this conversation 1055 00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,200 with several people. You know, one of the things that 1056 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,840 comes up in those conversations is what's the role of social 1057 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,040 media here, right? I think people get so enamored 1058 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,160 with comparing themselves to other people and to a lifestyle, 1059 00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:06,400 right, that they they lose track of the fact that it's work to 1060 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,880 actually have a real relationship. 1061 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,720 It's work to actually have children and raise them right. 1062 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,200 And I think there's sort of this quick dopamine hit from social 1063 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,120 media with this external validation that people are 1064 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,920 searching for. But in essence, it actually 1065 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,360 alienates everybody from everybody else. 1066 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,800 So I don't, I see social media as potentially playing a role 1067 00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,680 here that's really kind of destructive. 1068 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,000 And you know, it's, it's, it can be good. 1069 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,360 You can learn a lot of things. You know, this, we're on social 1070 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,240 media here, right? And in some way, shape or form. 1071 00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:42,680 So it can certainly be very constructive. 1072 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,480 But I think when people start to substitute it for real 1073 00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:48,840 relationships and really getting to know somebody and this 1074 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:51,640 concept of being vulnerable as opposed to trying to be the 1075 00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,720 idyllic person with the idyllic lifestyle with the idyllic dress 1076 00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:58,520 or, you know, pair of pants or whatever it is. 1077 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,840 You know, I think, I think I didn't grow up with that. 1078 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:03,280 I didn't grow up with any of that, right? 1079 00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,920 It was all just about, you know, the people you were around and 1080 00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:08,160 getting to know him, right. So I, I think maybe there's an 1081 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,200 element of that. I don't know. 1082 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:10,520 What do you, what's your thoughts on it? 1083 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,560 I can. I can totally see that I feel. 1084 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,760 Like, I mean, I feel like it's interesting because there is 1085 00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,080 more social media activity than ever right now. 1086 00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,440 That's where people typically go and spend their time. 1087 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,520 Yeah. And I feel like there's this 1088 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:27,080 massive void in people's hearts and souls and I, they crave 1089 00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,640 legitimate human interaction, like real interaction, face to 1090 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,960 face. And it's. 1091 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,440 Like they almost. Haven't put the pieces together 1092 00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,960 that the solution to that craving is to put the phones 1093 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:37,880 down. That's right. 1094 00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,960 So it's like they know it's there, they know it exists, but 1095 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,960 they don't act upon that knowledge. 1096 00:53:42,920 --> 00:53:45,000 But yeah, I totally agree, man. I feel like, you know, the 1097 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,480 fulfilment that I get in life is certainly aided by my ability to 1098 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,200 make a bigger impact through social media. 1099 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,640 But when I look at what really matters, you know, I could lose 1100 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,800 all my social media accounts tomorrow and I would not have 1101 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640 lost the true essence of my being. 1102 00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,640 You know, I've got my, that's my wife, I've got my son, I got 1103 00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:03,800 another baby on the way. I've got my family, my friends, 1104 00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,880 the people that I'm actually interacting with, right? 1105 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,960 That is where, you know, I find my happiness beautiful. 1106 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,600 That's it. Yeah, it's in those real 1107 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,880 relationships, right? And I have lifelong 1108 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,680 relationships. I'm still friends with people 1109 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,120 from elementary school, high school, college, you know, 1110 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,560 medical school, things like that. 1111 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:24,400 So yeah, I think having real relationships that you nurture 1112 00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,000 and that you feel nourished by, I think one question you can the 1113 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,280 audience can ask themselves or what are the things that you 1114 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,680 find nourishing, right? What do you find nourishing? 1115 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,880 Like for me, I find human interaction very nourishing, 1116 00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:39,760 right? And being with the love of my 1117 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:42,000 life, I find that incredibly nourishing, right? 1118 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,200 I find other things nourishing, being outside, being athletic 1119 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,160 novelty. I find art incredibly 1120 00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,360 nourishing, right? I'm a guitar player and I really 1121 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,200 have always been drawn to the arts and so many things are 1122 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,200 nourishing. And I think if you start to ask 1123 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,920 yourself what's really nourishing to me and after go 1124 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,720 after those as opposed to what gives me the dopamine hit, 1125 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,280 that's a social media, it's another post, it's a swipe, it's 1126 00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:08,520 a whatever you're doing. I think that starts to lead you 1127 00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,160 towards, OK, I'm going to nourish myself because when you 1128 00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,400 do that, you're going to start, I think, having more 1129 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,600 interpersonal interactions. I think so, yeah. 1130 00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:19,040 No, 100% agreement. I think we're aligned in that 1131 00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,600 for sure. Hope people listen to this, Will 1132 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,920 use social media to to listen to this but then put the phone down 1133 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,400 and that's right, just listen to this and set it aside. 1134 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,800 Exactly. Exactly. 1135 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,280 Well, Doctor Gladden, where do people go to find out more about 1136 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:33,400 you? Dive deeper into your world, 1137 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,000 ma'am. Yeah, so you. 1138 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,040 Can find us at gladdenlongevity.com. 1139 00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,000 That's the website. If you want to reach out there, 1140 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,760 if you're interested to be a client or talk to us about that 1141 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,840 if you have a question or a problem or an aspiration that 1142 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,920 you're wanting to deal with. We also have a podcast, the Glad 1143 00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,080 Longevity Podcast. We've got probably 300 episodes 1144 00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,800 out there at this point. The book 100 is the new 30. 1145 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:59,080 And we have a supplement shop, the Gladden Longevity Shop, 1146 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,920 where we have supplements and bundles of things that we put 1147 00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,800 together that we find to be particularly useful for 1148 00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,440 different, different indications. 1149 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:10,520 So yeah, those would be great places to to connect with us. 1150 00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:11,960 Awesome. We should do this. 1151 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:13,800 Podcast again in like 100 years or so. 1152 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,600 Yeah, let's do that well. Maybe. 1153 00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,560 Maybe we'll make 20 and see where we are. 1154 00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:18,680 There you go. There you go. 1155 00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:20,160 Well, I appreciate the time, Sir. 1156 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,760 Learn the Latin likewise, Robert. 1157 00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:22,400 Really a. Pleasure. 1158 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:23,800 Thanks so much. Thanks, Sir. 1159 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:24,920 Have a good one. You too.