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Just deciphered that this is 
episode 17 of the work. 

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Congratulations Greg, you are 
now a podcaster. 

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Most podcasts in all podcast 
players, like on iTunes, have 

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less than three episodes. 
We're at 17. 

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You're like a bona fide 
podcaster now. 17 is a special 

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number because that's my 
birthday in September. 

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In September 17th, I like the 
number 7 for whatever reason. 

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Like that is like I typically do
things in increments of seven. 

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That's weird. 
I know. 

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I don't know. 
Most people would be that's that

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would flare My OCD needs to be 
an even number. 

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See I have really bad OCD and 
like. 

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Can you still stick to 7? 
Or 9 or 9 like. 

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When I do push ups, I'll do 79 
push ups. 

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Yeah, I'm weird. 
OK, so let's say you have a 

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carton of eggs and you take 
several out and make something 

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to eat. 
How many do you leave in there? 

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0. 
That's an even number. 

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All right, Well, I posted 
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that's like your OCD. 
My OCD flares up when I have an 

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odd number of eggs left in a 
carton because you can't like 

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balance the design, like the you
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there from either left to right 
or front to back or whatever. 

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When you have an odd number in 
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So you have to like there's 
three in there. 

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I have to like stagger them a 
weird way. 

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If there's four in there, it's 
easy. 6 is easy, you know. 

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I had a lot of eggs. 
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Know I've been getting a lot of 
eggs, chips been giving me eggs 

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and then crystals been getting 
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That one egg that you showed me,
the date chip, that big one I 

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gave that 1A diesel is 
definitely a double yogurt. 

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Was it a big old juicy egg? 
Yeah, that chicken has a flared 

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butt. 
That was a big egg. 

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That was a big egg. 
I'm going to get chickens here 

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soon. 
Clancy is selling like 8 of his 

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I think, and we painted the 
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inside of it. 
So now we're gonna get chickens 

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and I'll have my own eggs. 
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diesel though 'cause wasn't he 
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Or last time, that was before he
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So I think we could put his 
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like, train him not to mess with
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Like, I think he would be able 
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But also I'm gonna have a 
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surrounding the chicken yard. 
So that would also keep him out.

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Yeah, that'll be good. 
But we'll we'll start small with

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only like 8 chickens. 8 chickens
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a day. 
Plus we've already got and 

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getting from Chip. 
I mean I could eat and I 

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normally eat like 12 eggs a day.
Yeah, pretty typical like 

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Gaston. 
I'm like Gaston. 

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I got a lady in town here that 
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dozen and that's just insane. 
I saw somebody post that they 

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had like the alfresco eggs at 
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don't know if it was real or not
but it was like 1699. 

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Oh, they're crazy. 
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If you, if you try to get decent
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the buzzwords, you're 10 plus 
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It's crazy. 
That is, wow, I don't mind 

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paying it if I know that it's 
done right, but like when you're

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getting anything in a 
supermarket, you don't really. 

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Know you don't know it's. 
Probably not. 

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Probably not. 
So what are we going to dive 

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into today, man? 
So we got the Rocktown Naturals 

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competition coming up this 
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Yep. 
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that, but you're going to 
actually, you're going to take 

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part in that like. 
That was totally unintended. 

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So we were, we're sponsoring it,
Keto Bricks sponsoring it. 

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So we were going to have a booth
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even know if I was going to go 
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And it's a little ways away. 
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A couple hours 3. 
Hours away, but my granny's got 

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a birthday this Thursday, 
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So I've got to go spend time 
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They're doing like a family 
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my folks house on Saturday night
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So I'll go to Rock Town with you
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I'll stay the night there, spend
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Sunday. 
So I told them, hey, we'll go 

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ahead and have a booth. 
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their judges dropped out last 
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So I'm like, well I can be a 
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I'm a certified judge and 
they're like great, we'll use 

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you. 
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head judge and I'm like, I never
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don't want to do that. 
And they're like, well our MC is

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a head judge so he could be the 
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over the MC spot. 
And I've never MC before either.

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But I've talked a lot on 
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roll with. 
Him. 

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So you're gonna be MC ING a 
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competition. 
Yeah, and they're gonna give me 

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like all the talking points 
'cause they're not that many 

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competitors, but I'll be the one
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introducing people and 
everything, so it should be 

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pretty straightforward. 
So you had to be fine. 

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I'm excited. 
You'll be, you'll be fine 

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because you're used to the 
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You, you know how shows go and 
yeah, yeah. 

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And you'll be rocking the booth 
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That I'll rock the booth. 
Excited about that and hopefully

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we'll drum up some new 
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September. 
Yeah, because we need them. 

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The more the merrier. 
Yes, we do. 

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So if you guys know anybody, 
natural competitor trying to get

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into a WNBF show September 27th,
Northwest Arkansas, yeah. 

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It's the one we're going to do a
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tomorrow, but we're going to 
work on some promotional efforts

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such as I don't have all the 
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we're going to try and do like a
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week until the show, of which 
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nine weeks out now, and we'll 
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the registrants each week 
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To get. 
A little, you know, preliminary 

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swag bag or something, so 
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I'm excited about them. 
We got some pretty cool keto 

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brick stuff in the works, but I 
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until next week's work podcast 
as we get a little closer. 

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But that's exciting. 
We've been hammered away at 

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that. 
All kinds of good stuff. 

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All kinds of good. 
Stuff we've been restocking. 

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Restocking primal fudge is still
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what are we making we're making 
malt next week that one's going 

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to go back in stock and then 
we're going to make more peanut 

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butter tallelujah Yep so that's 
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Just made a bunch of Bell's 
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We got a new flavour that don't 
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because it's going to be a 
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is a brand spanking new. 
Brand new, not even. 

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We don't even have one close to.
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totally unique, but it's we, we 
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packaging design and we're going
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That's totally unique. 
That's going to stand out. 

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Remember when we came out with 
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and I was like, wow, this is 
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Well, this is going to be. 
I will I will tease this so the 

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the design of the package, we're
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one, so not really savage. 
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It's it's kind of like a light. 
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It's not all pink. 
It's not all pink. 

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The highlights are pink. 
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imagery is pink, some of the the
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leave it like. 
It'll be good. 

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What? 
What's on? 

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About guess what? 
Well, guess what you think the 

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flavor's gonna be? 
Guess what you think the 

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flavor's gonna be? 
Let us know in the comments. 

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By the way, we got a bunch of 
good feedback on the podcast AMA

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that we did where you were 
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just improving the answers. 
I think that format was well 

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received, so we'll do that 
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Keep that in mind and. 
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And just for reference, anybody 
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submit questions, we'll compile 
those and we shipped everybody 

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whose questions we used. 
Free bricks. 

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So yeah, you got nothing to 
lose. 

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And that was like 8 people. 
Yeah, it was 8 questions and 

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that was that was cool, 'cause. 
I like. 

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Just thinking off the cuff and 
you know, going deep on 

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something. 
So that was good. 

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I like the format. 
You and I are both doing high 

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fat this week because I had done
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the FGF 21, saw positive results
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we decided to do the same thing 
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For a week. 
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Basically at the depth. 
Of your cut, 1700 calories, 1690

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pretty low for you. 
So we're doing a week of four to

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one, less than 9% of calories 
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We got you at 2500 calories. 
This week, I believe, yeah. 

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I'm just going to double check 
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I think it's 2550 or something 
like that. 

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Yeah, 2550. 
So we'll do that for a week. 

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You're doing cod liverim like I 
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hormone function, increased 
testosterone and improved 

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metabolic rates. 
And it's only Wednesday at the 

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time of this recording, but 
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warmer. 
So that's a pretty good time 

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cater of increased metabolic 
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And then after this week, we'll 
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probably so significantly higher
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and that'll give us more caloric
runway from which to taper until

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your next show in September. 
So that'll be good. 

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I think that's going to be a 
good way to elongate a prep in a

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healthy manner. 
Yeah, I think so. 

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I mean, if you think, if you 
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visually, it's like taking, 
you're going to stair, you're on

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a stairwell and you take 2 steps
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take one step back down. 
So you're starting off a little 

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bit higher. 
On the exactly. 

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Outside of that week. 
Exactly. 

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So yeah, we'll. 
See how it goes. 

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Saturday will be the last day of
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Whatever we decide, my macros 
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Instead of initiating those on 
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happens, I'll just kick them, 
kick start them one day early on

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Sunday. 
Yeah, but so far you get a 

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little bit more bloat because 
you're having a little bit more 

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fibre to kind of soak up the. 
Fan it's been. 

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It's been. 
Honestly, it's probably been a 

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decade since I've done much with
cauliflower rice and that's what

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I've been having 2 to 2 1/2 
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So just crack it into a pan just
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eating. 
Crack it into a cast iron or a 

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pan. 
Tastes pretty good. 

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Though, and it's super good. 
In fact, I'm probably going to 

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keep eating it. 
I might not do it with the 

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cauliflower rice or anything, 
but stir that all up in there. 

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Ton of salt, crack an egg, stir 
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go. 
I need to buy more cod liver 

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because I may be short for this 
whole week. 

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Oh, I got some. 
I just got a dozen from Amazon. 

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Well, I'll order some, but if 
I'm short before it gets here I 

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may steal one from you 
temporary. 

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How many you need 'cause I can 
grab you one tomorrow. 

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I think I've got 4 left, 3 or 4 
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bit. 
Well I ordered a dozen on Amazon

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and they came the next day. 
Yeah, well, I'll order some 

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today and they should. 
Be I bet you the pills be here 

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tomorrow. 
So that'll be good. 

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Interestingly enough, you and I 
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Saturday. 
We were doing legs with your 

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buddy Gary. 
We slammed legs. 

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We did 60,000 lbs of volume. 
We only did three exercises. 

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I did. 
Well, we did we. 

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Did 4. 
I guess counting calves we got 4

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so leg press and then we did 
vertical. 

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Heavy on leg press. 
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Then we did vertical reverse 
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Good Morning and then. 
Quad extension. 

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Yeah, quad extension. 
That was it. 

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And then dunking the cab, Yeah. 
But we were there for nearly two

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hours. 
Yeah, it was a long. 

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Slam and y'all were there 
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Stairmaster, so pretty good Leg 
day. 

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Yeah, I haven't done a dedicated
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felt good. 
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we were there, we're talking to 
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That's definitely like a 
bodybuilding style gym. 

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I. 
Love that gym. 

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It's a good gym and we were. 
Talking to people who were like.

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Hey, if you know anybody for the
show, let us know. 

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You know, September 27th, bring 
them on. 

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If you know any clients, if you 
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anybody interested in competing 
and like we would say natural 

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and then be like automatically 
all that rules out everybody we 

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know. 
And it's like we were talking to

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people. 
I mean, they had impressive 

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physiques, but like they 
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too. 
That's the weird thing. 

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Like they were females that were
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like Olympia level by any means.
You wouldn't, you wouldn't 

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assume they were an unnatural. 
That's it. 

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You wouldn't assume they were 
not, and they looked totally 

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obtainable. 
Naturally. 

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Oh yeah, they looked good. 
But they weren't. 

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But they may be unnatural for 
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performance enhancing totally. 
True, valid point, but it's just

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crazy that like they know so 
many people that would be 

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interested in competing, but the
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natural, it like, oh, we don't 
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It's like, so that just kind of 
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taking drugs in the sport, which
is unfortunate, but. 

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It's the reality. 
We live in. 

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That same day, actually, before 
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I was chatting with another 
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done competitions in the past. 
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huge advocate of PEDs and was 
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pushing it because her hormones 
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was expecting or kind of athlete
he works with. 

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And he was super pushy. 
So she was saying that she she 

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bucked back and she's like, no, 
I that's not that goes against 

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what I want to do. 
I don't, you know, I'm firing 

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you as a coach. 
This is not the way I want to do

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things. 
So maybe that is kind of why 

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some of these athletes are no 
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there's so many coaches that are
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And you know, I've seen several 
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week, whatever. 
It's peak week for a lot of 

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athletes right now. 
And we we're going to the 

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Rocktown Naturals on Saturday. 
So there's obviously some 

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athletes in peak week for that 
and I've reached out to several 

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of them and just shoot them 
quickly. 

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I'll DM or comment on something 
that they're posting online and 

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just say, hey, which which show 
are you doing? 

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And everyone that I've connected
with is doing the other one, the

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NPC show this weekend. 
That's a non natural show. 

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It's like why is why is everyone
so non natural? 

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That's. 
Well, I definitely. 

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Think the coaches are blamed for
a lot of it because I mean, 

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I've. 
Heard horror stories of. 

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Clients that are working with me
that came my way. 

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Because they were pushed towards
drugs from their prior coach. 

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And it's like this is this is 
them. 

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Doing their first show. 
Often times. 

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Like their coaches are pushing 
drugs. 

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On their first show so. 
It's not like they're. 

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Depending on it. 
For their livelihood, for their 

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business like. 
For any of that, they're just 

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doing it as a hobby and they're 
like pushing drugs on them, like

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young girls. 
And it's like it's. 

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So it's so unfortunate. 
It's so unfortunate because 

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you're impressionable to to 
crazy extent when you're, if I 

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would have thought back to my 
very first prep when I didn't 

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know a damn thing about 
anything, didn't know how to 

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even weigh food. 
And I hired a coach. 

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And if he would have been like, 
yeah, this is what we need to 

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do. 
You need to buy this, you need 

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to order this. 
We're going to inject this or do

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whatever, you know, like we're 
going to cycle these things. 

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And that thing. 
I probably would have said yeah,

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because I was like, OK, you 
know, you're the pro. 

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You have got all these physiques
behind you that have won pro 

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cards and trophies and blasted 
shows and whatever they're doing

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obviously is working. 
You know what you're doing, 

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whatever you're doing with your 
athletes, I probably would have 

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been susceptible to being 
definitely down that tunnel. 

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And I'm glad that the coach at 
the time, who I first reached 

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out to and worked with for the 
first time ever, wasn't that 

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kind. 
Of Guy. 

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But yeah, imagine, imagine just 
being so moldable, 

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impressionable, and your coach 
saying, yeah, we got it, this is

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what you need, and then you're 
screwed for the rest of your. 

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Yeah, I mean, I don't have 
anything. 

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Against people to take it. 
It's like neither do I. 

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I mean, I look at people that 
are competing at the highest 

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level at the. 
Olympia and the Arnold and like,

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that's their. 
Livelihood and they may be 

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signing an early death sentence 
for themselves, but like that's 

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what they chose and they're on 
board with they understand the 

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consequences more power to them.
You know, like, who am I to 

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judge but for like. 
People that are just. 

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Dipping their toe into the 
competitive. 

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World. 
They're totally healthy 

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otherwise. 
It's like, why would a coach 

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automatically push that as like 
the the default? 

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And it's super unfortunate 
because like you go that path, 

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you can't really. 
Reverse or back step that. 

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And what's unfortunate is, like 
I used to train at a Gold's Gym 

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in Washington when I lived 
there, and there was this guy 

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that was, I mean, he was. 
Like the dealer locally for all 

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the steroids. 
And stuff. 

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He's a super nice guy, like I 
enjoyed talking with him, but he

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would come. 
In he was. 

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Big but like not. 
Like. 

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Super shredded, like not that 
impressive, like very impressive

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like bigger than me, but like 
not like, oh, he could stand up 

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next to Ronnie Coleman and 
compete nothing like that. 

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And he would come in, he'd train
hard, he'd be all happy and 

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jovial and happy, go lucky. 
And then like a week or two 

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would pass and he'd come back. 
I wouldn't see him and he'd come

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back and he'd be just like super
depressed, like taking 

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depressants and just like 
distraught. 

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And it's like you could 
literally time his emotions 

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based off whether he was cycling
on or cycling off because like 

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he would deflate, he'd look 
smaller and you could just tell 

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he was. 
So his identity was so wrapped 

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up and like how he looked that 
whenever he was cycling off, it 

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just like depressed them. 
His hormones are constant in the

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state of flux and. 
That's why a lot of. 

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Guys never even cycle off. 
They just have like this, I 

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don't even know what they call 
it another terminology, but like

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running and gunning or that's 
not it. 

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It's, I don't even know the 
terminology, but like they'll 

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just stay on like a blast Cycle,
I think is what they call it 

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when they're taking more of it 
and they just have like a cruise

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cycle where it's taking like 
lower dosage of it, but they're 

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never cycling off because they 
don't want to go through that, 

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you know, withdrawal and like 
deflation period. 

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But to me, it's like I'm an 
extremist. 

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I'm like all in with everything 
I do. 

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So I did that. 
I wouldn't want to cycle off. 

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I'd be like, no, I don't want to
lose 20 lbs. 

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I don't want to look less full, 
less vascular, less yoked, Like 

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I just want to keep blasting. 
And it's like you just like, 

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what's the point? 
Then it seems like it's a never 

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ending. 
Yeah, it's never ending downward

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spiral. 
I was chasing the the carrot. 

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Yeah, and I feel like there's a 
lot of talk about TRT now, but a

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lot of people are on TRT that 
don't need to be on TRT. 

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I was talking to my buddy 
yesterday, Chris, and he's on 

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TRT now and he and I've been 
friends since high school. 

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He's not a bodybuilder. 
He doesn't lift. 

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He's like same age as me, but he
eats like crap. 

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I was. 
Just going to say it but he eats

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like shit. 
Doesn't. 

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Doesn't. 
Get sleep too much. 

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Wasn't working out, wasn't 
sleeping. 

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Super stressed. 
He tried to own his own 

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business, got super stressed so 
like he lost all his sex drive, 

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energy, would wake up feeling 
tired. 

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So he changed his whole diet. 
He's doing carnivore now so I'm 

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proud of him there. 
He's been like 3 months in the 

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carnivore, lost a little bit of 
weight, but then he started 

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doing TRT and nothing crazy. 
I think he's doing like 200 

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meals a week, whatever. 
It's a pretty standard dose for 

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TRT, but it's like, man, you 
could have totally negated the 

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need for all of that if you'd 
just been healthy on the front 

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end, you know? 
So no, man, it's tough. 

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I think I mean, society in 
general is to a point where if 

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there's a shortcut, it's 
appealing to everybody, you 

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know, and I guess I shouldn't 
call it a shortcut. 

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It's maybe doesn't need to be 
the first option if you haven't 

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ever tried any of the other 
options. 

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You know, fix your diet, fix 
your sleep, fix your stress, all

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that kind of stuff. 
Yeah, true that man. 

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Eat some kind of liver, do a 
week offense, see if it does 

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doubling effect like it did for 
me. 

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I get to eat a whole entire 
toasted almond coconut brick 

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today. 
We're sold out of those right 

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now. 
We are sold. 

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Out of those, but we're. 
Gonna be making more. 

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I work at the a couple weeks so 
I get one. 

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I found one we got like an 
employee stash of all the 

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flavors we do. 
But we also have a stash for the

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mystery boxes. 
Which we do. 

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If you guys have ever seen the 
mystery box, the Keto Berg 

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mystery box, it's a pretty sweet
deal. 

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You get 30 bricks a month at the
deepest discount and it's 

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randomized and sometimes it's 
sold out flavors. 

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Oftentimes it's soda flavors. 
There's not gonna be any 

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blueberry muffins in there 
though. 

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There's like 1 blueberry muffin 
in existence and it's mine. 

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I would be willing to bet 
somebody else out there has 1 

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hidden. 
I used to. 

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I had one for probably. 
Well what year was that 

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blueberry muffin? 
That was a couple years back. 

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That would have been. 
Two years, three years 3. 

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No, it was before 23 I think, I 
think. 2022. 

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Maybe, yeah. 
I had one. 

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I even even moved here with it, 
like I've had it for years since

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since Ketocon. 
And one day I'm like, I'm just, 

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I'm gonna eat this. 
And it was so good. 

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Yeah, that is a good one. 
We'll we'll bring it back. 

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But that protein specifically 
the lead time on that one is 

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like 18 weeks. 
So it's like I got a plan for 

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producing that one and we got 
some other exciting flavors. 

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We got a lot of other flavors in
the works. 

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Yeah, yeah, 'cause I mean for, 
you know, this year is flying 

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by, dude. 
Like it's it's almost August. 

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Well, we have. 
We have flavors planned out 

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already almost through the end 
of the year. 

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We do. 
Yeah, we have. 

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Flavors literally planned at the
end of the year. 

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I'm booking out podcasts in 
January right now. 

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That's crazy. 
So like it's. 

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Still middle of summer. 
We gotta slow this. 

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Thing down, I'm booking out 
podcasts in January already. 

450
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,040
I got Nick Bear. 
Come on the podcast. 

451
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,280
In a couple weeks that'll be 
cool. 

452
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:46,160
And then I've got, we just 
signed up for meat stock again 

453
00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,320
next year, just put the deposit 
down on that sponsorship. 

454
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,480
That's Gatlinburg, TN again. 
It's in Tennessee again. 

455
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,520
It's a new venue, but I think 
it's still in. 

456
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,880
Gatlinburg. 
Yeah, I think so. 

457
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,120
So that'll be exciting. 
Meat stock was super awesome 

458
00:20:59,120 --> 00:21:02,960
this year. 
And then we'll be at Pack Your 

459
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,720
Health in December. 
We're not going to a booth 

460
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,720
there, but we'll go and I'll 
speak and all that good stuff. 

461
00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,360
Then I'm going to Tennessee 
again beginning of September for

462
00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,520
low carb for better health 
speaking there and then two 

463
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:19,880
weeks after, that's our show and
then we also. 

464
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,200
Got to get a retreat plan 
because. 

465
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,840
We got to do. 
We did a retreat in February 

466
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:27,880
with Bill Schindler and then. 
Then the second one was didn't 

467
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,840
quite come together. 
Yeah. 

468
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,200
The second one of the timing 
didn't work out. 

469
00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,160
It was going to be in 
Washington, but that one didn't 

470
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,920
pan out. 
We'll probably do that one at 

471
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:35,880
some point in the future, but I 
want to do it right. 

472
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:41,360
And then the third quarter, it's
mostly competition focus because

473
00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:45,000
we got that in September, but we
might do like a mini retreat of 

474
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:49,640
sorts with that. 
And then we got to plan out a 

475
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,400
retreat for fourth quarter. 
So that'll be good. 

476
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:55,920
We might do it here. 
Northwest Arkansas. 

477
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:59,200
I could do a hunting. 
Style retreat at the farm. 

478
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,360
That'll be during hunting 
season. 

479
00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,720
I don't know. 
I got to figure that details out

480
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,440
on that one. 
Yeah. 

481
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,880
All kinds of good stuff, yeah. 
And Speaking of competition 

482
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,040
related details, we just met 
with Jerry yesterday, the owner 

483
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:17,040
and operator of the new Dexafit 
location here in Farmington. 

484
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,880
And we're going to have a pretty
cool opportunity for all the 

485
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,360
competitors or anybody else 
who's in town for the 

486
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:25,720
competition. 
We're going to have an open 

487
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,920
house for the competitors at his
Dexafit location Thursday 

488
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,800
evening before the comp and 
Friday morning before the comp, 

489
00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:38,360
and he's going to offer 50% off 
DEXA scans for anybody who wants

490
00:22:38,360 --> 00:22:41,160
to show up and hang out and. 
And if you get a DEXA scan at 

491
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,120
50% off, he's going to give you 
a free. 3D. 

492
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,680
Body scan which is pretty slick 
as well. 

493
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,600
And I've never heard of any 
other competition doing that. 

494
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760
That's pretty cool. 
And I feel like, you know, if 

495
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:53,640
you're going to a competition, 
you're in peak week. 

496
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,240
The day before the show, 2 days 
before. 

497
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,840
The show is like the ideal time 
to get a DEXA scan because 

498
00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:00,200
there's just fewer variables in 
your. 

499
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,280
Well, and you're, you're in, 
you're in stage conditioning. 

500
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,280
You know, it'd be nice to have 
that data. 

501
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,480
Then as you reverse back out of 
it, you'll have a reading. 

502
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,040
And for your next show, you'll 
kind of know what you need to 

503
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,560
beat in order to look better for
stepping on a second time. 

504
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,920
So yeah, I'm excited about 
offering them. 

505
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,320
Jay's a cool dude. 
I like him a lot. 

506
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:24,360
Yeah, he and he knows his stuff,
like you can sit and talk to him

507
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,120
for forever. 
He he knows the insurance and 

508
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:28,240
outs. 
We're actually going to go there

509
00:23:28,360 --> 00:23:31,400
tomorrow, Thursday, tomorrow, 
because today's Wednesday and 

510
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,200
we're going to go there and do 
AV O2 Max. 

511
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,320
Which I've never done before. 
Me either, I'm a little scared 

512
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,480
because I don't do a lot of 
cardio but at least it'll be a 

513
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,960
baseline, you know? 
Then then if we do any other 

514
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,800
cardio training or hiking or 
whatever, we can kind of 

515
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,960
revisit, yeah. 
I did the RMR. 

516
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,760
Test that he offered and that 
was insightful but with that one

517
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:55,720
you're basically just chilling 
in a chair for 15 minutes while 

518
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,160
it calculates your resting 
metabolic rate, but you're 

519
00:23:58,160 --> 00:23:59,360
still. 
Hooked up to the same oxygen 

520
00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:00,960
machine. 
I don't know if it's the same. 

521
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:04,080
I think it's the same machine. 
So yeah, it should be pretty 

522
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,760
much the same setup. 
But then with the VO2 Max, he 

523
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,240
said that that you're basically 
going to get like a a baseline 

524
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,920
for 5 minutes and then he's 
gonna just steadily increase the

525
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,240
incline of the treadmill until 
you're going all out. 

526
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,160
Until he, he says. 
Until you pretty much your tap 

527
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,760
out. 
Yeah, and the whole point being 

528
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,920
to figure out your lactate 
threshold and basically at what 

529
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,520
point your body shifts from 
metabolizing fat for energy to 

530
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,960
glucose. 
So yeah, I'm pretty curious 

531
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,280
cause like he says that, you 
know, like clockwork, everybody,

532
00:24:34,360 --> 00:24:36,200
they're gonna hit that threshold
regardless. 

533
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,520
That looks different for 
everybody, but they're going to 

534
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,880
hit it. 
And the actual mirroring of it 

535
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,080
is pretty consistent across the 
board where it's like 

536
00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,040
predominantly fat burning, 
predominantly fat burning and 

537
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,400
then that drops off and then 
glucose picks up. 

538
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,760
But what I'm curious to see is 
with us both having been, you 

539
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,720
know, fat adapted following keto
for 10 plus years, I would 

540
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,720
imagine our. 
Rate. 

541
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,160
Of leveraging fat metabolism 
exists for much longer than the 

542
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,880
typical test subject before we 
go into glucose metabolism. 

543
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,640
I think I think that's what's 
going to happen. 

544
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,200
So yeah, it'll be, it'll be 
curious on the, on the RMR test 

545
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:17,120
that I did, he said that he used
me as an example because it 

546
00:25:17,120 --> 00:25:20,440
shows on one of the screens 
whether you're, you know, 

547
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,960
burning predominantly fats or 
predominantly sugar. 

548
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,200
And it's often times like a 
split, you know, like 4060 or 

549
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,840
whatever, most people are carb 
burners. 

550
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,240
And then he was like, you're the
only one who've ever tested 

551
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,680
that's 100% fat burning. 
So I'm like, heck yeah, that's 

552
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,680
right, man. 
Well, see in 2021, I think it 

553
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:44,120
was 21 when I was in prep with 
you, I ran several mud obstacle 

554
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,320
courses like a Tough Mudder. 
I one of them was AI think it 

555
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:51,040
was a 10K Tough Mudder. 
And I had no carbs prior to and 

556
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:53,920
you know, everyone else is 
eating carbs and gel packs and 

557
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,080
bananas and all that kind of 
stuff. 

558
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,800
I had Keto Brick and Redmond 
relight in my out of the back of

559
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,560
my car before the race, and it 
was so weird because we all 

560
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,560
started as a group. 
If you've ever done one of these

561
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,320
that you know, you go in waves, 
you start at the starting line 

562
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,160
and they blow the horn and you 
all take off. 

563
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:13,880
Well, everyone takes off and 
they're kind of at the same rate

564
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,600
and you're just kind of pacing 
yourself. 

565
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:20,000
Everyone was starting to fall 
off and I felt like something in

566
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,320
me just opened up a whole new 
can of gasoline and I was able 

567
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:27,040
to just RIP and it was like I 
didn't stop. 

568
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,240
And it was. 
I had no carbs. 

569
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,000
Everyone's stopping at the 
little things halfway through 

570
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,920
and having a banana or a granola
bar or whatever and a glass of 

571
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,280
water and stuff like that to 
rehydrate and get some energy. 

572
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:41,080
I just ran right past it and not
a single person passed me, but I

573
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,240
felt like I passed so many 
people. 

574
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,160
My energy was just unhinged. 
It was crazy, crazy. 

575
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,760
Yeah, I mean, like I don't do a 
lot of endurance work, but like 

576
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,720
when I ran that marathon, I did 
it totally fasted and I never 

577
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,080
once bonked because like most 
people running marathons, like 

578
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,640
they were all getting the jail 
packs and goos and stuff like 

579
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:05,400
that or like car blown the night
prior and my feet were wrecked 

580
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,360
because I had went from never 
running to just signing up to do

581
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:09,840
a marathon. 
So don't recommend that. 

582
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,600
But like from an energy 
standpoint or a fuel standpoint,

583
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,360
I felt totally fine the whole 
way through. 

584
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,600
That's crazy. 
So. 

585
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,720
So Speaking of energy, we've 
we're also, we just, we just 

586
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:23,840
kind of teamed up with a cool 
dude in who's gonna run the 

587
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,600
length of India. 
Yeah. 

588
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,760
He's a fat adapted athlete. 
He's gonna leverage A ketogenic 

589
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,480
nutritional protocol. 
Diagnosed with cancer. 

590
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,520
He is a terminal cancer 
survivor. 

591
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040
I do believe he's got a brain 
tumor. 

592
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,760
His story is absolutely 
phenomenal and he he's setting 

593
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,880
out to run from the very 
northernmost tip of India to the

594
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,720
most southernmost tip for 80 
days. 

595
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,360
And he's going to run however 
many miles or kilometers per 

596
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:52,760
day. 
And we're going to supply him 

597
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,440
bricks to make that happen. 
So we're pretty stoked about 

598
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:57,960
that. 
He's going to probably hop on 

599
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,520
your podcast. 
Yeah, I'm going to give him the 

600
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,680
podcast pre and post run. 
I want to kind of just hear the 

601
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,160
whole story because you've been 
interacting. 

602
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,720
I haven't really talked to him 
much, but I'm excited to flesh 

603
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,200
this out. 
Yeah, we connected on social 

604
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,280
media and he he's, he's a pretty
cool guy. 

605
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,120
And he's, he's going to do a 
whole bunch of, he's going to 

606
00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:13,720
document the whole thing. 
So he's going to have a whole 

607
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,800
bunch of data, a whole bunch of 
content, a whole bunch of 

608
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,080
interaction along the way. 
So I think that kicks off in 

609
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,800
September. 
Nice, that's cool. 

610
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaking of podcasts, after 
this, I'm recording a podcast 

611
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,800
with Jay Horley, who is a client
of mine. 

612
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,800
He's like one of the top level 
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu guys for his

613
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,000
weight and age. 
I think it's like ranked number 

614
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,560
one or two in the world right 
now for his stats and he's type 

615
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,720
1 diabetic. 
He does all of it with keto. 

616
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,360
So like we've been like he still
take insulin, obviously like 

617
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,480
insulin bolus dose is minimized 
and he's had several 

618
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,080
tournaments. 
He's got his biggest tournament 

619
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,800
tournament in November, but 
we've been like manipulating his

620
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,880
macros and like kind of peaking 
him as we would a prep to like 

621
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,880
make sure he makes weights. 
He competes at the under 84kg 

622
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,000
and under category. 
But it's pretty cool man, Like 

623
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,240
it's. 
Cool for me to see. 

624
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,840
People in different athletes in 
different sports leveraging keto

625
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,280
and just like wiping the floor 
with all these people that are 

626
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:14,840
like, oh, you got to have carbs,
you got to have carbs. 

627
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:17,320
You know, it's pretty cool. 
Wow, that is cool. 

628
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,800
Heck yeah. 
So and that'll be like, I hadn't

629
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,680
got the podcast with him talking
about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. 

630
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560
Yesterday I had a podcast all 
about Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. 

631
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,760
I'm probably just going to take 
the gloves off and start doing 

632
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,200
Brazilian next. 
Thing next thing you know will 

633
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
be you'll be all in Brazilian 
Jiu Jitsu. 

634
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Well, I said on the podcast 
yesterday, it's like, man, I 

635
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,720
want to do it. 
I've dabbled in it like casually

636
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,640
with the crew here at the 
compound. 

637
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,480
We got mats and everything. 
And I haven't like totally 

638
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,760
jumped in because I know that 
when I do, I'm probably just 

639
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,400
gonna be like, you know, just 
obsessed. 

640
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:54,600
And I don't want it to conflict 
with my bodybuilding endeavors 

641
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,440
'cause that's priority numero 
Uno from an athletic standpoint 

642
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,840
for me. 
But Rigel, they've got like a 

643
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,120
three to five year class. 
So I think it came into. 

644
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,560
It. 
And I need to go like I went in 

645
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,840
once before and they all seemed 
cool, like the Dojo seemed nice.

646
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,200
So I want it because we had 
Rigel in like swim lessons like 

647
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:15,800
a year ago and he really liked 
that. 

648
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,600
But it was like an hour and a 
half away to get there. 

649
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,600
It's ridiculous. 
But this is like in 

650
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,280
Fayetteville, so 25 minutes away
and they have like 4 classes a 

651
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160
week for three to five age 
group. 

652
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,800
So I might be able to get him 
into advance and like, let him 

653
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,040
interact more with, you know, 
kids his age. 

654
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,440
And like, I think I was talking 
on the podcast, this makes a lot

655
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,800
of sense. 
Like, you would appreciate this.

656
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
You never really did any team 
sports, or did you? 

657
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,720
Well, it's, it's funny you're 
Speaking of this because when my

658
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,960
brother and I were kids, our 
parents put us into karate 

659
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,760
lessons. 
So we were doing hands on 

660
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,600
karate. 
My dad was in it too, so it was 

661
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,440
like a family endeavour and it 
was awesome. 

662
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,680
We learned a lot of, we learned 
a lot of discipline, respect, 

663
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,760
self-control, you know, 
interaction with other kids. 

664
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,000
There's a lot of cool core 
values that you build during 

665
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,520
doing stuff like that. 
Yeah. 

666
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,720
And I feel like like 
bodybuilding has done that for 

667
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,080
me, like discipline, 
consistency, hard work. 

668
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120
But like, it's like team sports 
I did. 

669
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,200
And like, I did baseball, 
basketball, but I never really 

670
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,880
enjoyed them. 
And they would frustrate me. 

671
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Like I could be just hustling. 
Then I have a team member that 

672
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,640
was like slacking and it was 
just like, you have to be a team

673
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,120
unified effort. 
And if you got somebody that's 

674
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,800
like a bad apple, it just 
poisons the whale. 

675
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,160
So I didn't like that aspect of 
team sports. 

676
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,520
I like having a team, like I, I 
get that, you know, being the 

677
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,280
leader of this team and having 
that kind of camaraderie, but 

678
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,920
like I didn't get that in sports
necessarily. 

679
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,480
And then bodybuilding is on the 
complete OPS in the spectrum. 

680
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,720
Like you're just, you know, 
independent solo, you're up 

681
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,000
against you every single day. 
You reap what you sow. 

682
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,520
But like, there's not really a 
team element at all with 

683
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,040
bodybuilding. 
Just in the trenches, in the 

684
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,960
darkness. 
If you slack, there's no one 

685
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,400
picking up the slack. 
Yeah, but like I was talking 

686
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,120
yesterday on this podcast and he
made a good point. 

687
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,480
He's like, cuz he did like high 
school wrestling and he's like 

688
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,400
with wrestling, with jiu jitsu, 
it's an individual sport. 

689
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,640
Like if you fail, it's because 
you messed up. 

690
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,240
Like you can't point the finger 
anybody else. 

691
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:19,400
But it's got a very strong team 
component because you're 

692
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,840
learning these skills and 
grappling with all the members 

693
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,680
on your team. 
So like if you win, it's because

694
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,000
they help prepare you to develop
those skills. 

695
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800
So it's kind of like you're 
getting the best of both worlds.

696
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,680
You get the individual sport. 
You can't point the finger and 

697
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,480
blame anybody else if you fail, 
but you get like the team 

698
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,880
camaraderie because like they're
helping you build yourself up 

699
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,720
and vice versa. 
So it's it kind of like opened 

700
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,520
my eyes to that functionality of
it. 

701
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,760
I'm like, man, that'd be perfect
for Rigel, you know? 

702
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,160
Yeah, that's that's a pretty 
great analogy. 

703
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,560
So we'll see. 
I might, I might pull a trigger 

704
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,400
and get him in involved. 
But then if he doesn't, it'd be 

705
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,640
cool if like I started doing it 
too and we just like learned 

706
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:03,200
together and grappled. 
But I need somebody bigger than 

707
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Rigel to roll with. 
So, OK, all right, all right. 

708
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,120
We're going to compete against 
each other in 2027, so we'll be 

709
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:14,680
in a bulk together. 26. 
So let's just grapple in 2026, 

710
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,400
build up the hype for 2027's 
Face off, yeah? 

711
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,440
We got to get some grappling 
content out there. 

712
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,520
Yeah, that'd be good. 
That'd be good. 

713
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:22,720
Chip. 
We may have to bring out the all

714
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,880
the MMA stuff again, man, that's
good. 

715
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,360
So that's the plan. 
Awesome. 

716
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,800
That's the plan. 
Always thinking of something. 

717
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,360
Always. 
What else we got on a pipeline, 

718
00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,320
man, How much? 
I got a podcast in a little bit 

719
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,000
here, so probably cutting it 
short here soon. 

720
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,320
How long we been rocking Chip? 
33 minutes 33. 

721
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,520
Minutes, that's pretty good. 
Pretty good. 

722
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,120
A little short side, but pretty 
good. 

723
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,240
But all that to say, excited 
about Rock Town this weekend. 

724
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,640
We'll give you all an update on 
how that goes when we record on 

725
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:53,240
Monday and then when we record 
the work next week, we'll be 

726
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,400
talking about some things in the
pipeline. 

727
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Got a couple little secrets 
coming forward. 

728
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,400
Yeah. 
Things in the works. 

729
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,800
One thing that we I don't think 
we've mentioned in the work is 

730
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,800
that maybe we have, I don't 
know, but Chip just finished all

731
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,880
the revamped media content for 
the Savage system. 

732
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,480
So all of the seven phases are 
now done, polished and ready to 

733
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,080
rock. 
And they look select. 

734
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,520
Yeah, those are nice videos. 
So now we're going to start. 

735
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,639
Yeah, kudos to Chip. 
So now we're going to start 

736
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,000
doing all the missing appendix 
stuff, tackling, posing first, 

737
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,400
for those that are in prep or 
about to be in prep or wanted to

738
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,400
highlight posing, we'll start 
tackling all the appendix videos

739
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080
around the different divisions 
and classes and things to look 

740
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,880
for with the posing. 
So yeah, that's coming soon. 

741
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,360
Coming soon. 
Always a million things going 

742
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,000
on. 
Always. 

743
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:48,040
We need to hire somebody. 
More people, More people. 

744
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,480
All right, that's a wrap 
Gregoron. 

745
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,440
All right, adios.
