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Well hello ladies and gents 
Robert Sykes keto, Savage.com. 

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And today I've got special guest
and good friend, Ali Miller back

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on the podcast, we dive deep 
into it. 

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All we talked about her 
homesteading Endeavors. 

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She's recently purchased 15 
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She's building out all these 
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She's going to have chickens. 
It's going to be great. 

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We talked about homesteading 
regenerative, agriculture, all 

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that good stuff. 
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hormone, specifically, female 
hormones, Women's Health 

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menopause. 
What are some factors that you 

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can control to optimize for that
naturally? 

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And then if you need to go the 
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What does that look like 
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Enjoyed that learned a ton. 
And then we talk about parenting

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especially around nutrition, 
baby LED weaning, all that good 

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stuff. 
Really? 

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Enjoy the conversation. 
I've got a ton of respect for 

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Allie, she is a wealth of 
knowledge. 

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I learned so much, every single 
time we chant. 

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So that further Ado, sit back, 
relax and do a podcast with Ali 

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Miller and we are live Hey, how 
are you? 

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I am doing awesome. 
How you doing Robert? 

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I'm doing wonderfully well as 
well. 

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It's been a while since I've had
you on the podcast. 

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I was recently on years and I 
saw you at what conference? 

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I see you at. 
What was that was? 

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That key, dokkan, dokkan dokkan.
Yes. 

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And it was awesome seeing you. 
We haven't seen each other in 

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quite some time due to the 
pandemic. 

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Yes. 
But yeah, we need we have a 

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little ketchup call, which is 
what this podcast is all about. 

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So what's Revenue in your world?
Since since we last spoke on the

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podcast, I know you got a great 
In house you're building right 

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now. 
All kinds of homesteading stuff.

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I just want to dive into your 
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Well okay, yeah. 
I mean we keep it Rockin so in 

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my personal world we acquired we
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2020. 
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well, and we started trenching 
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electrical lines, and we have an
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Ends 2 because we have some 
black bucks and really cool 

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Exotics on our on our Ranch area
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things. 
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that's high fenced like eight 
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coop, a greenhouse, and then 
garden beds and we're starting 

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an orchard. 
So lots of fun in the Texas sun 

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and you know, just exciting 
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learn about. 
Getting my hands in the dirt and

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see if we can grow things in 
rocks, not freaking love it. 

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What? 
About some Texas, are you? 

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You're pretty close to Austin, 
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Yeah. 
So we're in Wimberley which is 

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just about an hour outside and 
then also what I've done since 

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we talked Robert is I'm opening 
a market out here so it's a 

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pretty rural area. 
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people were driving an hour to 
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Central Market or some of the, 
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options or even farmers markets.
And so I've partnered with all 

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of my favorite ranches, And 
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And in October, we are going to 
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in Wimberley Texas. 
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percent of the items. 
You can get there, you can't get

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in any grocery store. 
A lot of small businesses that 

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were supporting you no direct 
producers sold at our store, 

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including raw milk and all sorts
of nutrient dense, stuff that 

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you couldn't purchase without a 
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So, we're doing kind of like, a 
buyer's club model to really 

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support. 
Art, you know, the slow food 

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movement and regenerative 
agriculture and vote with our 

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dollar to try to decentralize 
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Which is really, what's 
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food security. 
So that's been another exciting 

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project and then I'm still 
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working as a functional 
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patients all the time and of 
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lot of focus on immune health 
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about at Kido. 
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connection and it's really quite
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But, yeah, I've been doing all 
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All the things I love it. 
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We have a whole podcast just on 
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It sounds like, with what may be
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to the, the market? 
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So, is that something like when 
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We have to go through all kinds 
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know, have a commercial-grade 
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Have that inspect all that, good
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I'm assuming with it being more 
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all the local community, it's 
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market that sense that you don't
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through from a legality 
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Right? 
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is a Texas thing there is it's 
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law, it's the cottage kitchen 
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Law means any producer that 
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it's just a beekeeper with raw 
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baked goods. 
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like that but then we are doing 
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And I'd say about two thirds of 
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of a commentary kitchen, you 
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as like a kitchen chair, but we 
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which is really cool for 
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things, and, you know, getting 
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It's freaking awesome. 
This is, this is launching in 

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October. 
You said yes, October 3rd. 

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Yeah, let's make a trip down to 
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Just to say yeah, this is 
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Yes, yes, give me super cool. 
So, with rendering I'm rendering

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lard today. 
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Nice. 
I was just at the kitchen. 

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Yeah, I think it's like, we got 
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delivered last Thursday. 
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and we have five slow cookers 
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just rendering out some lard. 
I love it, I love it. 

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So you have no, like you weren't
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stuff, right? 
You said you were sitting The 

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current like this is all totally
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an extension because I'm 
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young and I've been at this 
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And really starting to dig into 
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with whole real foods and even 
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of what is a whole food and and 
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storm because apparently I was 
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the perception of food for so 
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It took me until kind of being 
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curve. 
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trajectory, but I mean, I really
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license at age 24. 
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kind of rock and roll and with 
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know, curriculum. 
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into the food is medicine 
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natural as opposed to 
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which that's just totally an 
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Correct. 
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went to bestir University, which
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Medicine and the school. 
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applied for the school, I was a 
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very into it, because they had 
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organic gardening classes Wild, 
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So you would Forge for nettle 
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in the st. 
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them back and dehydrate them and
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cool stuff. 
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vegetarian cafeteria and then it
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of my first year in there. 
To very quickly, jump into more 

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of the Weston, a price wise 
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You know, bone broth snout to 
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that was really came about from 
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When When I was diagnosed with 
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really insufficient in Iron, I 
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B12 and all arrows were pointing
to making peace with eating 

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animals and, you know, now about
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practicing. 
Of course, luckily, that was all

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before, I got credentialed. 
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practicing as more of an 
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and although that wasn't 
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school, there were definitely 
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That concept, so that helped to 
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will. 
Do you feel like vent ancestral 

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approach to nutrition? 
Is, I mean, it definitely seems 

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to be gaining momentum in our 
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Are, you know, our community, 
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do you feel like that's becoming
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well? 
I think it is and I think it 

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just has to be, you know? 
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did a really good job. 
Initially, I don't remember what

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year that was that his first 
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you know, a solar powered 
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cow, you know, not not an 
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essentially, you know, horn 
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And what we've shifted in our 
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Agriculture has really destroyed
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obesity and just the amendment 
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Both for a cost and also the 
fact that we're just killing our

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soil and without without soil, 
we don't have food. 

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Yeah, totally agree. 
I feel like when you just peel 

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the curtain back and look at the
comments since practice. 

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It, it just makes sense that 
we're going to feel and function

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better if we're eating quality 
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Natural Foods. 
Ideally those of which we've 

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procured ourselves from know 
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way, we just have that, you 
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with the food that were 
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Like, if you just simply distill
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it's like this is how humans 
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This is how we've been eaten 
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evolutionary past. 
Why would we feel the need to 

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deviate from a drastically? 
No doubt and and just the little

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things that mean. 
So there's the, there's the like

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grandiose Dynamic of taking like
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burger patty, right? 
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versus, you know, 14 plus and 
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modified, maybe many of them 
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sources to fly into the factory 
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this process product, there's 
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Burger, there is not as 
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of protein and it's, it is 
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quote-unquote chemical, 
shitstorm, compared to something

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that is a single identifiable, 
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nourishing. 
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we can right now in I guess not 
Layman's but in a standard 

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understanding of nutrition 
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mindset. 
Most standard nutrition 

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understanding is just going to 
look at those nutrition facts 

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and yes, they could see the 
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Yes, they can see the variance 
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the protein and at least 
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But what we're not tapped into 
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elements. 
That meat, or biological protein

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offers us. 
So, you know, talking about the 

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bioavailable B vitamins and even
getting deeper from things like,

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iron and minerals and vitamins, 
but actually getting deeper 

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until I command amide right. 
So Amanda might, is this 

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neuropeptide that creates the 
Bliss Factory familiar with 

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that? 
Yeah, like the Bliss factor that

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love these corporate food 
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we get a high of it in our Rain 
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think about a ribeye, right, 
right. 

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And so Amanda my dad, you can't,
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in the CBD, family it is unique 
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endocannabinoid system, which is
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every human body is wired with 
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know, again nature knows best. 
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you just can't mimic when you're
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enzyme. 
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the conjugated linoleic. 
Alec acids. 

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of shooting yourself in the foot
by scapegoating and the process.

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to have the means to, you know, 
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operation going on their own 
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into what you've got going on 
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pretty good chunk of land. 
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you can do a lot with 15 Acres. 
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segments that land? 
Are you going to do with your in

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tibetan culture and have 
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come into the same spot? 
In a circular motion, icons that

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going to be broken down? 
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I'm not that exciting. 
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that the 1.5 as the high fenced 
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the orchard The Gardens and we 
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of thin things out when we're 
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now starting with eight beds 
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Hi and the other four are 24 
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pretty hefty production cycle to
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company called dripworks and so,
you know, playing with their 

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our Ranch. 
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community if you will. 
It look a little gated community

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of 18, lots and all of them are 
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can have anacs-- cetera, but one
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she is The owner of solemn area 
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couple hours. 
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cattle on the property that 
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dairy farm. 
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I love it. 
I love it. 

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So we have the flower gardens 
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vegetable gardens, what are you 
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done by a friend of mine because
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literally this week. 
So the starts were done in early

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August and that includes 
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Green beans. 
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I think potato is as a start and
sweet potato slips, then we have

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by seed, we're It carrots. 
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starts from what would be like a
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Peppers, bell peppers, and then 
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I love it, I feel like Kevin 
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worth its weight in gold because
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taste so much better. 
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and Seasonings and spices. 
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that my recipes are all very 
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to get in a niche of you know 
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people write in the state's you 
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all herb seasonings and spices 
as if they would you know in 

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potent nutrient density because 
you know, they're throwing like 

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handfuls of turmeric in and 
we're like quarter teaspoon kind

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of thing. 
My recipes. 

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I always will be using, like, at
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some therapeutic medicinal level
when we're starting to work with

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herbs, seasonings and spices. 
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you're probably getting a lot of
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carnivore Community. 
I would imagine that views. 

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All vegetation is, you know, 
phytochemicals, what do you say 

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when people start bringing that 
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Yeah, it's funny. 
I think I had this really 

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socially awkward moment with 
Shaun Baker. 

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I at paleo FX, I think it was 
like five years ago now goodness

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and there was like a I forget 
what kind of meat cut it was, 

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maybe it was like a big fillet 
that they had cut into 

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tenderloins and there was like a
little, you know, peace and I 

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said, oh, there's parsley on 
your plate. 

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Try to like pull it off. 
He's like, okay you weirdo. 

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But yeah it's funny. 
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conversation because I'm kind of
known as a hybrid model if you 

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will. 
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very meat-centric and like I 
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snout to tail and that's why 
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I'm talking nauseam about bone 
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also believe very strongly that 
the human body does and is made 

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to consume vegetation. 
I think that we want to be 

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mindful of elements of potential
intolerance which we would 

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consider things like leaky gut 
and this could be leaky gut from

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use of NSAIDs. 
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anti-inflammatories like Aleve, 
Advil naproxen those are big 

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risk factors. 
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chronic dysbiosis or sibo or 
yeast overgrowth like candida in

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the body. 
We can also see leaky gut as 

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just an autoimmune response and 
the world of inflammatory bowel.

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And all of these individuals, we
want to be much more Vigilant 

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about things like lectin and 
anti-nutrients because the 

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epithelial tissue the lining of 
their gut is Often ulcerated 

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it's much more inflamed and it's
much more vulnerable. 

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If you will to some of the 
anti-nutrients and especially 

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the inflammatory ones like 
gliadin and glutenin, and 

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lectins that we think of in our 
grains and in our beans. 

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But with that being said, if we 
are focusing on proactively 

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nourishing our gut with things 
like bone broth and collagen 

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peptides and we have healed our 
gut or our gut is not in a 

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state. 
State of leaky gut, there is a 

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huge mirror. 
Add of benefits that we see from

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consumption of plants. 
And what I like to argue is 

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whether we identify it in a 
Petri dish or in its biochemical

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structure as a what people like 
to call quote, unquote, plant 

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toxin, like Paul saladino will 
call them plant toxins often. 

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You know, I always look at what 
happens. 

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Endogenously in the human body, 
not in a Petri dish. 

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What happens when I consume this
food? 

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How does that influence my 
antioxidant quality in my blood?

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How does that influence? 
The nutrient composition of my 

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body? 
And we've seen time and time 

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again, if we're talking about 
for instance, sulforaphane, 

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which is the unique antioxidant 
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vegetable specially in broccoli,
sulforaphane has been shown a 

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very clearly in clinical 
research to enhance and increase

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and endogenous meaning made by 
the body glutathione levels. 

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So whether that's a status of 
hormesis right. 

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Whether that quote unquote, 
plant toxin, stresses the human 

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body to make more glutathione, 
which glutathione is the master 

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antioxidant, in the body, the 
highest, the top dog, you know, 

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if you will with vitamin C being
like the little kid Sister, 

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anything that enhances 
glutathione levels is going to 

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be of benefit because we see it 
inversely correlated with 

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all-cause mortality. 
We saw for instance, in pan. 

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MX season, those that had low 
glutathione levels to have much 

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more severe infection rate, much
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because you need the antioxidant
to lower. 

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The oxidative stress. 
We saw better oxygenation and 

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respiratory function in 
individuals that had optimized 

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glutathione. 
And we were even seeing in some 

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clinics glutathione as an IV 
drip. 

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And to be used as a nebulizer, 
that was one of the things that 

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I was working with my patients 
that as a preset before they 

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would go to the Hospital. 
If they were getting really 

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severe and their pulse ox is 
dropping, we would nebulize 

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glutathione. 
And so that's my take is right. 

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If something whether you want to
call it plant toxin or you want 

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to call it a superfood, if it 
enhances, your body's ability to

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make an antioxidant. 
Just like if you want to call a 

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weight, a stressor that tears, 
your muscle and is harmful, or 

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build, your muscle because of 
the process of repair that's 

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kind of how I look at it. 
What I'm saying? 

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Hormesis, if that makes sense. 
Yeah, makes total sense. 

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Are we seeing a lot of people 
that are doing a street corner 

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for diet? 
In glutathione. 

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I have done nutrient deficiency 
tests only on a couple because I

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don't have many patients that 
are strict carnivores so it 

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would be interesting to see but,
you know, usually want to look 

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at an intracellular level for a 
true more longer standing 

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assessment of glutathione, but 
you can test that gsh levels in 

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the bloodstream and it would be 
a really interesting analysis to

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look at. 
But what we do know, is we've 

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done feeding studies 
double-blind, Placebo control 

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with sulforaphane and seen it. 
Enhanced Gotcha. 

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That makes sense. 
Yeah for me it's like I've never

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been like the hardcore strict 
dogmatic carnivore in which any 

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vegetables just going to kill 
me. 

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I just don't need a ton of him. 
I do like them though. 

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I'm especially if you're growing
them yourself, you know where 

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they're coming from. 
I do think there's a lot to be 

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said for, you know, avoiding 
vegetables that are 

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mass-produced and just spray 
with glyphosate non-stop. 

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Like you probably know for sure 
and zoom in there. 

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But if you're growing everything
yourself like you're talking 

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about I mean that's going to be 
perfect case scenario. 

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I would think. 
Yeah. 

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Yep. 
No doubt. 

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And you know, we know that 
there's been a Official 

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properties of gardening as well.
Because if you're working with 

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again, quality soil, you have 
compost, all of that, organic 

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matter. 
And then my psyllium that we 

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have access to, in the soil. 
We breathe that in and that 

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actually gets into our brain and
serve as an antidepressant. 

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So, you know, we often see 
people that spend more time in 

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soil, to have that 
antidepressant effect or, you 

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know, you'll read things like 
gardening makes people happy, 

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00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:44,800
and it's a reason to get outside
to, which I think, is a Really 

451
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,600
important thing. 
I think that, you know, ideally 

452
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,900
I just did a podcast, a couple 
months back about how our retina

453
00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:55,200
and cornea distance is actually 
changing because of all the 

454
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,000
screen time, we're starting to 
see and, you know, we need 

455
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,200
minimum 2 hours of natural 
daylight on a daily basis. 

456
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,300
So I love also when people are 
exercising incorporating outdoor

457
00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:10,300
exercise, but having something 
to tend to like you know, work 

458
00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:13,300
on your property or garden and 
such, I think, is a really good 

459
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:15,700
practice and it's very 
Meditative as well. 

460
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,300
Yeah, I totally agree. 
So, when it comes to gardening, 

461
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,100
what's a good? 
Like, if somebody's got the 

462
00:24:21,100 --> 00:24:24,400
means to just grow a garden, 
what would be your like, go to 

463
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:26,800
very entry level. 
You can't really mess this up. 

464
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,600
Even if you try like, what 
would, what would you recommend?

465
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,100
People plant. 
I think starting with herbs is 

466
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:34,500
great. 
I'm not a fan of I think doing 

467
00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:37,700
Planters and containers are a 
great place to start. 

468
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,200
You want to be mindful of the 
material you're using. 

469
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,100
So in our beds, you know, you 
want to use untreated wood. 

470
00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:47,600
If you're going to build Eggs 
from scratch and you could even 

471
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,800
start with as long as you're not
using like decorative clay pots.

472
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,400
You could use Terracotta clay 
pots it around your patio if 

473
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,800
you're in an apartment for 
instance and I think starting 

474
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:01,000
with herbs and deep nutrient 
dense leafy greens is a really 

475
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,900
good way to start because when 
you're harvesting your leafy 

476
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:06,600
greens you can just kind of pick
from the outside and allow the 

477
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,100
court to keep growing. 
So for instance, like with a 

478
00:25:09,108 --> 00:25:12,300
bunch of kale Etc, you don't 
want to pull the root system out

479
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,100
right away. 
You can kind of work off of 

480
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,300
that. 
That and it'll keep giving and 

481
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,300
you know, you can even hang some
shade cloth if need be on your 

482
00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:25,300
patio or move from side to side,
depending on what angle you are,

483
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,500
or what direction, or 
orientation, you are in your 

484
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:30,000
space. 
But I think herbs and deep leafy

485
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,700
greens are definitely the way to
go. 

486
00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:35,900
What I would say is I wouldn't 
do any of the my daughter right 

487
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:38,600
now is in first grade and 
they're doing a hydroponic 

488
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,000
experiment, which is pretty 
cool. 

489
00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:42,500
You know, for a science 
experiment, they have a fish 

490
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,200
tank that they have. 
The classroom. 

491
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:49,400
And so, you know, the fish feces
is being used as fertilizer for 

492
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800
the plant matter, that's growing
above the tank and and I think 

493
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,400
that that's neat and novel, but 
generally speaking a much more 

494
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,100
privy to recommending instead of
like those vertical planters 

495
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:04,800
that you might see online as 
kind of buzzworthy or non-toxic 

496
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,400
hydroponic growing those are 
very sterile. 

497
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,100
You know, you're not growing 
them in organic matter. 

498
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,400
And so I really see the 
importance of just like we know 

499
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,800
the impact of the Grow biome on 
human health, the soil and 

500
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,900
having the viable microsomes. 
And again, my psyllium culture 

501
00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:27,100
and such that, that really 
exchanges with the roots of the 

502
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:31,200
plant, just like we see our 
probiotics and our gut actually 

503
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,500
aiding in not just enhancing 
nutrient absorption from our 

504
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,200
foods, but also even 
manufacturing probiotics 

505
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,700
manufacture nutrients for our 
body and we see the same in the 

506
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:43,100
soil. 
So I'm a big proponent of, you 

507
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:47,600
know, finding a Good quality 
compost to blend with a quality 

508
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:49,800
soil. 
I can put a couple different 

509
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,200
ones down for listeners, I like 
Geo Growers, but that's a Texas 

510
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,600
company but ladybug is one 
that's nationally available. 

511
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,100
And I think that starting in 
soil is good because then you're

512
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:01,400
also putting your hands in it 
too. 

513
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,000
And kind of getting dirty is 
there like I've heard like my 

514
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,200
folks have a garden and they've 
always just tilled the ground 

515
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,800
and broke everything up, but 
compounds Down horse manure, 

516
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,700
things of that nature. 
But I've heard there's an 

517
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:14,300
argument that ceiling on the 
ground. 

518
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,100
Is not good? 
Yes, yes, because you're 

519
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:19,700
disrupting. 
So it's interesting. 

520
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:25,300
My property has fossils from 150
million years ago, that come up 

521
00:27:25,300 --> 00:27:28,300
when we've French, terry has, 
and so they're like these little

522
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:31,600
mollusk shells. 
And at first, when we bought in 

523
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:34,900
December of twenty twenty, I 
looked at one of the guys, I was

524
00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:38,900
Consulting with on the Orchard 
and I was like, why do is this? 

525
00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:42,500
Just like mineral-rich they just
like dump this matter of these 

526
00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:44,200
shells like where to get these 
shells from. 

527
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:47,100
He's like a girlfriend from when
the ocean was over your 

528
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,800
property. 
Oh my God. 

529
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,500
Okay cool. 
And so I mean that's just Wyatt 

530
00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:55,600
that's just wild itself to think
that, you know, in West Central 

531
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,500
Texas. 
You know this is undisturbed 

532
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:02,300
land from literally when the 
ocean was above it. 

533
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,900
And so this idea of no tilt till
is thought of as a biome 

534
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:11,300
disruptor if you will. 
And so it's just to mechanically

535
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:15,000
aggressive. 
And the idea is that At the 

536
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,300
plant roots, get lazy. 
They don't have to look in the 

537
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,000
soil enough to dig that have to 
break up themselves and so that 

538
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:24,300
can create a less robust plant. 
Hmm. 

539
00:28:24,300 --> 00:28:27,400
Got you, got you so fab Gant 
like I live in the Ozark 

540
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,100
Mountains? 
Where it's like, two rocks, 21 

541
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:31,700
dirt here. 
It's just rocks everywhere. 

542
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,300
Yes, I'm probably just going to 
need to bring in a lot of good 

543
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,600
quality soil and kind of build 
up and garden beds, opposed to 

544
00:28:36,608 --> 00:28:39,600
trying to like till down and 
breaks oil. 

545
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,600
Yeah. 
So that's what we're doing and 

546
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,000
it needs because we are like 
growing on Rock so what does it 

547
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,300
were doing? 
These beds and that's, we're 

548
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:49,400
doing 20 inches and 24 inches. 
Deep, depending on, you know, 

549
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,300
what kind of root structure they
need, but then we will keep that

550
00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:55,200
soil. 
And when we Harvest, even if we 

551
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,700
are, so for harvesting a carrot,
organ, obviously, pull it of its

552
00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,700
entity out because you're eating
the root of that product. 

553
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,600
But even like I was saying with 
the leafy greens, even lettuce, 

554
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,100
heads Tomatoes, tomatoes, have 
robust root systems, they can 

555
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:10,900
grow, you know, four feet, high,
and couple feet wide. 

556
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,700
You actually want to break down.
Down that route and then kind of

557
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:20,700
return that back into the soil 
and that breakdown of that. 

558
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:24,500
Organic matter will exchange 
some of the nutrients that it up

559
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:26,900
took to help to balance things 
out better. 

560
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:29,100
And you don't want to disrupt 
like a never dig back into the 

561
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,200
bottom of your bed. 
You kind of want to like Bend 

562
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800
off from the top and then break 
that down with a machete, or a 

563
00:29:35,808 --> 00:29:38,800
knife and then return that back 
to the topsoil kind of folded 

564
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,600
over and plant where you're 
planted next cash and it makes 

565
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000
total sense. 
Yeah, I've got my on my list. 

566
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,400
One thing that you've probably 
already discovered now, 

567
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,900
definitely already discovered 
living on land. 

568
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:50,500
Is that The To Do List is never 
done, like, there's always 

569
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:52,400
something to do. 
So, now I've got an even bigger 

570
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,800
to do this with regard to 
American citizens. 

571
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,900
Here, it'll be fun and it'll be 
fun thing to do as a family. 

572
00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:01,200
I mean, Stella loves going out 
there and she gets so stoked. 

573
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,300
And I mean, when kids are a part
of the process, it's just their 

574
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:08,800
way more willing to participate 
for sure because they get 

575
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,700
excited about watching, 
something grow and come to life 

576
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,900
and it's quite cool. 
I mean, it's Science. 

577
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:18,900
It's so many different kind of 
subjects can be mastered in that

578
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:22,200
real-life experience of 
watching, plants, grow, and 

579
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,500
being a part of the process. 
And they're going to enjoy the 

580
00:30:24,500 --> 00:30:26,500
taste more to. 
Yeah, totally agree. 

581
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:28,700
You mentioned going to have 20 
chickens? 

582
00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:30,300
Are you doing? 
Predominantly egg, chickens? 

583
00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:33,000
Are you doing meat chickens to? 
Yeah, just laying just laying 

584
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,300
chickens. 
Yes, but you know me birds like 

585
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:40,100
laying chickens, you can, you 
wouldn't want to eat the meat 

586
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:43,100
because often it's just a 
totally different texture and 

587
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,800
such but you can Is laying hens 
in bone broth. 

588
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,100
So you know, when they pass if 
the foxes and coyotes, leave the

589
00:30:52,100 --> 00:30:53,300
said Karkat, you know what I 
mean? 

590
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:57,100
I know we'll lose a couple from 
Sly predators and that'll be a 

591
00:30:57,108 --> 00:31:01,200
learning curve of itself and one
of my friends out here, she said

592
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,700
she well yeah, you got to have a
machete on the outside of your 

593
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:08,500
Coop because sometimes the rat 
snakes get in and they'll eat a 

594
00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,000
chicken and then they can't get 
out. 

595
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,500
So you just got to slice them in
half. 

596
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,800
No, no, it sounds Like fun. 
At one point, they had like a 

597
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,100
thousand chickens. 
So like we had, we had rat 

598
00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:20,800
snakes in there. 
We had raccoons in there. 

599
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,500
We had everything your chickens 
like you gotta, you gotta be on 

600
00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:25,200
the lookout for sure. 
Yeah. 

601
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,900
But I mean if they'd just die of
heat exhaustion or whatnot, you 

602
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:31,600
can definitely use those use the
carcass for sure in broth. 

603
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,400
Totally what we did you go for 
the layers? 

604
00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:37,400
I have not purchased yet, so I'm
still in that research and 

605
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,400
that's going to happen in March.
So, we're facing it. 

606
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,100
So the garden gets put in this 
following week. 

607
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:46,200
We get the soil deliver them 
from Day and you know we're 

608
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,900
talking September and then we 
don't move in until January so I

609
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,000
didn't want the birds until 
we're living there. 

610
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,200
And then in March is when we'll 
get the birds and then get them 

611
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,100
through the fries. 
So we don't get have a little 

612
00:31:57,100 --> 00:32:00,200
baby chicks in the freeze. 
And then, then we go on to the 

613
00:32:00,208 --> 00:32:02,000
orchard planning. 
Nice, nice. 

614
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,700
We had wait a little bit 
everything, but we had a lot of 

615
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:05,400
air con has and they like green 
eggs. 

616
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:06,400
So it's like you have green 
eggs. 

617
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,600
Yeah. 
They're on the list. 

618
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:09,500
Yes. 
Nice. 

619
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,700
And then those funky ones, I can
think of off the top of my 

620
00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,200
head's now, but with the big 
kind of a We're all looking for 

621
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,900
what they're called in the big. 
Yeah, there's on their feet 

622
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,900
Australorp. 
So I think was one of the ones 

623
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:21,900
with feathers on it that was 
mostly mom saying she had all 

624
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:24,300
these rare breeds and they loved
it. 

625
00:32:24,300 --> 00:32:26,400
It was just crazy. 
Is it like so Keys? 

626
00:32:26,500 --> 00:32:30,100
Yeah. 
So cute because like they covers

627
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,700
their eyes, they don't have any 
clue what they're going half the

628
00:32:32,700 --> 00:32:36,500
time so just like run around and
hit things can't wait, it's 

629
00:32:36,500 --> 00:32:38,500
pretty funny. 
Are you documenting all this 

630
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:39,800
like are you putting this on 
YouTube and stuff? 

631
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,400
Like the whole we're gonna. 
Yeah. 

632
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,600
We're gonna I mean so the funny 
thing is real time this is I'm 

633
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,300
also opening the market and then
Becky just had her baby on 

634
00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,100
Saturday. 
So you know but Byron her 

635
00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:55,700
husband's my videographer and so
once he's off paternity, then 

636
00:32:55,700 --> 00:32:58,100
we'll start doing some of that. 
So hopefully, he'll catch some 

637
00:32:58,100 --> 00:33:01,100
footage of some of the last, 
like seating of the gardens and 

638
00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,900
I'll do some stuff with Becky's 
on maternity, through the end of

639
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,100
the year of kind of catching 
people up to speed of what we're

640
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,700
doing in the Miller, family 
Orchard. 

641
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:09,400
I love it. 
I love it. 

642
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Like, I look forward to watching
it fall along there. 

643
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,700
For sure. 
I love the switch, the 

644
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,100
conversation. 
And kind of dive into hormones, 

645
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,500
female hormones, specifically 
actually referenced you on a 

646
00:33:18,508 --> 00:33:21,100
podcast that I recorded last 
week because people were talking

647
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,500
about, I'm not sure what we get 
started. 

648
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,300
But we're talking about birth 
control and the podcast that 

649
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:27,800
you'd published. 
I don't know how many years ago 

650
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,000
now about, you know, using the 
Daisy and natural Family, Family

651
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,900
Planning, that's what Chris and 
I started doing or eyes were 

652
00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,900
just opened. 
So I've been a big advocate for 

653
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:39,400
that, but I've had several 
guests on recently really diving

654
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,200
into female hormones, around 
menopause, and there seems to be

655
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,200
Pretty prominent train of 
thought, right now that the 

656
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,500
optimal way to, you know, to do 
with hormones is to go, the 

657
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:55,600
bioidentical route and take 
exams and foremost, you have a 

658
00:33:55,608 --> 00:33:57,800
stance on that. 
I mean, this is obviously very 

659
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,100
dependent upon the individual, 
but right, that seems to be a 

660
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:04,000
very prominent ideal ideology 
right now. 

661
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,700
Yes. 
So, you know, once we know that 

662
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:12,199
the individual is nourishing 
themselves and that they are 

663
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,800
best managing their HPA Access. 
Those are the two areas that I 

664
00:34:15,808 --> 00:34:17,699
would look at. 
As of course, absolute 

665
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,100
foundational elements to hormone
management. 

666
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:24,400
So nourishment, meaning that for
most women, the big focus is 

667
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,800
getting ample protein and 
constantly harping especially 

668
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,900
perimenopausal, but really, all 
aged women to really ensure that

669
00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,500
they're getting ample protein 
intake and then I really focus 

670
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:40,300
on fat as a secondary for most 
women and then managing and 

671
00:34:40,300 --> 00:34:43,300
titrating their carbs to their 
metabolic flexibility. 

672
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:45,800
And what works? 
That individual depending on 

673
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,300
their exercise. 
And if we want to get them into 

674
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,900
Ketone production, which most of
the time we do and then within 

675
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:56,699
that also making sure that they 
are covering their bases for 

676
00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:59,200
micronutrients. 
So if they were on birth control

677
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,800
were often going to see clinical
B vitamin deficiency. 

678
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,100
So, we'll probably on top of a 
quality multivitamin, whether 

679
00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,800
it's my prenatal, which is my 
multi Avail mama, or whether 

680
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,800
it's just my foundational. 
Hi, which is my multi defense. 

681
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:20,800
I'll often layer in a B-Complex 
with methylated B12, and all of,

682
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,900
by the biological, easy to 
absorb forms of B vitamins. 

683
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,400
And then we look at antioxidants
as well because oxygen, there's 

684
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000
a lot of oxidative stress that 
can occur with birth control use

685
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,000
as well. 
And so those are kind of the 

686
00:35:34,008 --> 00:35:37,500
areas on the nutrients that I 
hone in on and I would say, 

687
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:42,100
within fats, I emphasize a good 
amount of Omega-3s for hormone 

688
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:47,200
recovery and rebalancing. 
So that EPA DHA of the omega-3 

689
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,000
family, making sure they're 
getting at least two grams a day

690
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,000
and consuming wild caught fish 
and shellfish. 

691
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,700
Three times a week is a big goal
and then I look at the stress 

692
00:35:56,700 --> 00:36:00,100
access. 
So is this individual sleeping 

693
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:02,800
through the night, are they 
waking up with cortisol? 

694
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,800
Surges or hypoglycemic blood 
sugar, crashes? 

695
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,100
Or are they dealing with body 
temperature? 

696
00:36:09,100 --> 00:36:10,800
Fluctuations? 
In the middle of the night like 

697
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,700
hot flashes. 
We look at whether They are 

698
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:17,400
stressed and wired or stressed 
and tired and how they 

699
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,900
experience stress. 
Or they wiry and hyper-vigilant.

700
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,500
And in this over-processing 
anticipatory stress mode of, 

701
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:28,100
kind of excessive epinephrine, 
or cortisol, or are we looking 

702
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,300
at this stressed and tired where
they're running on empty, 

703
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:33,800
they're overwhelmed with 
everything and often. 

704
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,900
In that sense we might see 
adrenal insufficiency and I like

705
00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:42,800
to look at DHEA which is made by
the adrenals as a big player in 

706
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:47,000
sexual hormone balance. 
So, our adrenals have a cortex 

707
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,700
and the medulla they make in the
cortex cortisol, DHEA and 

708
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:55,200
aldosterone aldosterone plays a 
role with sodium retention and 

709
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,500
blood pressure control cortisol 
is that primary stress hormone 

710
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:03,400
which AIDS in our waking and 
sleeping patterns our circadian 

711
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,900
rhythm as well as inflammation 
regulation in the body. 

712
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,900
You know too little and too much
can both be bad. 

713
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,100
And then the DHEA also made by 
the adrenals. 

714
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:16,400
It can play a role Role in 
stress resilience and tolerance 

715
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:20,200
but it's also a prohormone. 
So DHEA itself plays a role with

716
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,500
metabolic health because it can 
Aid in lean body mass and it can

717
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:29,600
Aid in muscle formation, it is a
precursor to both testosterone 

718
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,800
and estrogen. 
So if DHEA levels are too high 

719
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,100
will often see that in the sense
of PCOS? 

720
00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:41,200
Polycystic ovarian syndrome, or 
someone who's going androgenic? 

721
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,000
Their adrenals are just just 
totally Rock. 

722
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,000
It's too high of a stress for 
that individual, someone with 

723
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:52,200
too low of DHEA doesn't have 
that that precursor building 

724
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:56,100
block to produce that 
testosterone and or estrogen. 

725
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:59,000
And so, they'll likely have more
suppressed hormone whereas 

726
00:37:59,300 --> 00:38:03,800
someone with excess DHEA might 
have estrogen dominance or might

727
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:07,100
be what's called androgenic 
meaning, excessive testosterone 

728
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:10,100
in a female. 
So I really like to look at all 

729
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:15,100
of that and manage the HPA axis 
because As you can see, the 

730
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:19,800
adrenals have such an influence 
on sex hormone because also, if 

731
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,400
that cortisol is up then what 
happens is the pituitary in the 

732
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,700
brain. 
So when I say HPA axis, that's 

733
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:30,400
hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal. 
So your hypothalamus and 

734
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,500
pituitary in the brain and then 
your little to adrenals that sit

735
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:38,000
above your kidneys, when 
cortisol levels are in an excess

736
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,000
level and the bodies wired in 
this sympathetic fight or 

737
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,100
flight, nervous system the 
pituitary instead. 

738
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,100
Focusing on producing things 
like thyroid, stimulating 

739
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:51,200
hormone, or TSH to support 
thyroid hormone production, 

740
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:54,900
instead of it making FSH 
follicular stimulating hormone 

741
00:38:54,900 --> 00:38:58,600
or LH your luteinizing hormone. 
Those are two of course, sexual 

742
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,800
hormones that in women regulate 
ovulation and the whole 

743
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,800
menstrual cycle. 
What happens is when the HPA 

744
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,900
axis is in sympathetic fight or 
flight mode, is it suppresses 

745
00:39:07,900 --> 00:39:11,400
production of those Regulators 
if sex hormone and metabolic 

746
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,300
hormone and it shuts all of its 
energy and to stimulate dating 

747
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:17,600
the adrenals. 
So if we don't know what's going

748
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:21,200
on there, I don't want to add 
more lighter fluid to the fire 

749
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,600
and throw hormone at that 
individual, until I see all 

750
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,400
things at a managed or low. 
So if someone's clinically low, 

751
00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,700
then absolutely, I'd be quicker 
to advocate for biological 

752
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:37,500
hormone because we actually want
to put them on DHEA and then 

753
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,700
monitor that in 90 days, and 
maybe we'll start with 25 to 50 

754
00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,800
milligrams in a woman. 
And then we might just want to 

755
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,900
give them DHEA is a level one 
tear and then see how that 

756
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:50,400
metabolizes into other hormone 
and then did that bring the 

757
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,400
estradiol levels back online 
because maybe they were super 

758
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,900
suppressed, and the woman was in
ovulatory and not ovulating and 

759
00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:01,000
maybe even amenorrhea, not 
menstruating and then we would 

760
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,900
see from there. 
Okay. 

761
00:40:01,900 --> 00:40:04,700
Now do we want to bring in a 
biological or bioidentical 

762
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:08,800
hormone blend of an estradiol 
estriol, which would be like an 

763
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,700
80/20 blend of that protective 
form of estrogen with that more 

764
00:40:12,700 --> 00:40:16,400
active form. 
A Scent or did the estrogen 

765
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:17,700
levels. 
Regulate, we just need that 

766
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:20,100
progesterone to come up and then
we might work with a 

767
00:40:20,107 --> 00:40:22,800
bioidentical progesterone. 
And I would say generally 

768
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,000
speaking, I recommend and 
prescribe a lot more 

769
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,700
progesterone to individuals than
estrogen. 

770
00:40:30,300 --> 00:40:33,700
Estrogen really comes in, in 
those hormones suppressed 

771
00:40:33,700 --> 00:40:37,200
individuals, who may have been 
under eating over-exercising and

772
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,700
their bodies, just doesn't have 
the give the bandwidth to make 

773
00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:43,600
hormone. 
And in those individuals that 

774
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,700
were worried about Bone density.
Vaginal atrophy fertility. 

775
00:40:48,700 --> 00:40:51,600
And we really just need to get 
that estrogen back online, but 

776
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:55,300
I'm always tighter on monitoring
that one with the work that I've

777
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,200
done with breast cancer, Etc. 
But I think bioidentical 

778
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,100
hormones are absolutely 
necessary for some but anyone 

779
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,800
that's using them should be 
monitoring at least three times 

780
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,200
a year, if not quarterly, and 
I'm definitely not a fan of 

781
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,600
pellets. 
I've Just Seen A lot going wrong

782
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:17,200
with hormone implants with 
Pellets just going totally like 

783
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:21,300
super, super high, super super 
crashy low, very inconsistent. 

784
00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:23,400
I'm a much bigger fan of 
transdermal. 

785
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,900
Topical use now that there's a, 
there's a demographic of, you 

786
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:30,200
know, compounding Specialists 
that suggests that if you're 

787
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600
going through menopause you 
pretty much need to be taking 

788
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,800
hormones exhausted, hormones in 
order to feel and function at a 

789
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,400
high rate and reach your full 
potential. 

790
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:40,000
I would. 
Imagine there's also a pretty 

791
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,300
big demographic of women that 
are going through menopause that

792
00:41:43,300 --> 00:41:45,800
do have everything down. 
Dan, their sleep, their, their 

793
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,900
stress levels, their diets, and 
they aren't necessarily a kind 

794
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:51,600
of like, you don't like having 
going through menopause, not a 

795
00:41:51,607 --> 00:41:55,500
death sentence, or her need an 
absolute need for Exotics 

796
00:41:55,500 --> 00:41:56,500
hormones. 
Correct. 

797
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,700
Right. 
You know, again, it's really if 

798
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:02,200
they have some of those Health 
Associated risks and we're 

799
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,800
seeing clinically low values and
I feel like they've been given 

800
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,700
the opportunity or have been 
supplementing with the nutrients

801
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:11,100
of need. 
And so, another big one is my 

802
00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:15,200
own off the tall which is really
a huge Of a derivative cousin of

803
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,900
the B vitamins, family, and 
myo-inositol is just a beautiful

804
00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:22,100
nutrient that supports ovarian 
health. 

805
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:25,500
So that's one that I have like a
my woman's hormone bundle and 

806
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:29,100
and I would start anyone that 
has any hormone either excess or

807
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:33,100
insufficiency on that, it's a 
great modulator and we've seen 

808
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,300
really substantial research on 
like 70-plus percent Improvement

809
00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:41,000
in ovulation with 4 grams a day,
which is, you know, just four 

810
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,300
thousand milligrams, the amount 
of a scoop of my relaxing You 

811
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:48,600
late and that myo-inositol can 
be a really great way to gently 

812
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,800
ease, without the need of that 
excess, because you can start to

813
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,400
nourish the ovaries. 
And if the ovaries weren't being

814
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,000
nourished from ages, you know, 
47, 48, 49. 

815
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,900
And then you bring in that 
nourishment, that'll at least at

816
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:02,800
Aid in the easement of that 
hormone reduction. 

817
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,600
From not being as much of a 
dynamic Cliff if you will makes 

818
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,500
total sense. 
So when it comes to you know 

819
00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:10,400
people trying to obtain a better
composition, the trying to lose 

820
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,300
body fat when women are going 
through menopause and they're 

821
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:16,200
having these The hormone levels 
that are in a state of flux, 

822
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,800
either high or low, what can 
they expect from a competitive 

823
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:20,700
standpoint? 
Like, if they're doing 

824
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:22,500
everything right there, 
tracking, the macros are doing 

825
00:43:22,500 --> 00:43:25,200
the training or they just can 
have a much harder time. 

826
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:29,700
Losing that body fan. 
Well, we look at, of course we 

827
00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,900
know sarcopenia and muscle 
wasting is the number one driver

828
00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:37,800
of aging and we know it well you
know oxidative stress because 

829
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,300
the other things but a big 
factor in aging and especially 

830
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:45,400
in the hormone face and so The 
biggest thing, I think getting 

831
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,200
women lifting weights using 
resistance training and eating 

832
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:54,100
ample protein ideally by their 
mid even early 30s. 

833
00:43:54,100 --> 00:43:55,400
I mean, the earlier the better, 
right? 

834
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,500
But if we're talking about 
preventing the impact of 

835
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:04,800
stubborn, belly fat, and just 
feeling fluffy and flabby, if 

836
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,000
you will, and not having that 
muscle density, and that 

837
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:13,500
biologically active Mass to 
support that metabolic active 

838
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,200
tissue. 
Ooh, so I think that that's the 

839
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:19,200
number one factor and then I 
also am a big proponent of 

840
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,600
giving detox support. 
Because, you know, at that age, 

841
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:29,400
we're also accumulating a life 
time of environmental toxins and

842
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,300
many of these now are 
xenoestrogens and perform as an 

843
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:39,000
estrogen compound or compete 
with other hormone in the body. 

844
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,500
And so, we really want to watch 
out for those endocrine 

845
00:44:41,500 --> 00:44:44,500
disruptors, which can, of 
course, disrupt Hormonal 

846
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,400
regulation in the body and I 
think that detox is a really 

847
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,100
great kind of housekeeping. 
When we're at times prone 

848
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:54,600
towards disrupted hormone 
values, make some sense that I 

849
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,100
feel like just simply eating 
enough food in general. 

850
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,300
Like, I feel like there's so 
many women that are fitting all 

851
00:44:59,300 --> 00:45:02,700
of these descriptions and 
they're not eating or not eating

852
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:04,200
enough. 
Protein writing enough fat, just

853
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:05,500
something, aren't any enough 
fuel? 

854
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,400
And that's incredibly kind of 
bulk in and of itself. 

855
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:10,700
Absolutely. 
And then they're getting that 

856
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:13,300
hormone steel, you know, that's 
what I was kind of alluding to, 

857
00:45:13,300 --> 00:45:17,000
and I was saying, That under 
chronic stress, the pituitary 

858
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:22,800
won't make the LH F sh + T. 
Sh right so you're suppressing 

859
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,800
your metabolism and your hormone
production, if your cortisol 

860
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,000
levels are chronically elevated 
and if you're under eating, 

861
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:33,300
you're setting yourself up for a
survival mentality and a 

862
00:45:33,308 --> 00:45:37,600
survival experience in the body,
which creates that shunting from

863
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,200
that HPA axis into that 
sympathetic space. 

864
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:44,300
And so, you're really working 
against yourself without Being 

865
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:46,300
that, that more liberated 
approach. 

866
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:50,200
So whether it is, you know, like
a refeed like you're doing with 

867
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:55,100
your clients or whether it's 
taking Sunday, to not fast, or 

868
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:58,000
whether it's doing a basal 
metabolic rate, assessment of 

869
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,300
sorts like a body, a 
bioelectrical impedance analysis

870
00:46:01,300 --> 00:46:05,600
and really seeing what your body
requires for caloric intake. 

871
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:09,800
It's often quite liberating when
women understand the importance 

872
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,400
of meeting minimal nutrient 
goals. 

873
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:14,800
Especially if they're coming 
from a place of Of chronic over 

874
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:18,000
restriction and it may come with
a little bit of temporary weight

875
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,700
gain like as their body, kind of
academics to that higher intake,

876
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:24,000
but then like the the benefits 
far far, outweigh any of the 

877
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:25,500
temporary increases in way 
specially. 

878
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:27,600
Once their body does acclimate 
to it. 

879
00:46:27,700 --> 00:46:30,600
They typically don't continue to
Wayne gain weight for very long.

880
00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:34,600
They often times and I mean and 
cognitive Clarity enhances very 

881
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,100
quickly, you know, less of that,
feeling of that kind of Sir gadd

882
00:46:39,100 --> 00:46:43,500
brain or just overwhelm 
disorganized often will start to

883
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:45,700
feel a lot more. 
Grounded when we're eating 

884
00:46:45,700 --> 00:46:48,500
enough and I think that's kind 
of the immediate. 

885
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:52,000
And so when that's usually the 
first one is like, okay, let's 

886
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,500
not, let's not weigh more than 
once a week and let's just focus

887
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:57,300
on experientially. 
Oh, you're sleeping better. 

888
00:46:57,300 --> 00:46:59,400
That's a huge win. 
This is what's happening behind 

889
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,700
the scenes in your metabolism 
when you're sleeping better, 

890
00:47:01,700 --> 00:47:05,900
that's a big deal and so helping
people find the lifestyle I 

891
00:47:05,900 --> 00:47:09,500
guess wins if you will. 
Well they're going through that 

892
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,300
metabolic shift is really 
important. 

893
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,900
We talked about this you know on
On my podcast, Robert about how 

894
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:17,800
the bodies just to Thrifty and 
smart. 

895
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,400
And we've seen that when 
anthropologists have studied 

896
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,900
tribes in Africa, you know, and 
they're seeing how much output 

897
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:27,900
and movement and, and you can 
call it exercise, but basically 

898
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,200
movement that these individuals 
are getting, and you know, why, 

899
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,200
they're not just totally 
catabolic. 

900
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,000
Because their metabolism is slow
down based on the amount of 

901
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:37,900
intake they can put in their 
output. 

902
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,500
And so this this idea of this 
over-exercising undereating, 

903
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:43,900
your body's just going to say ok
cool, just burn less. 

904
00:47:45,300 --> 00:47:46,800
We figured you out. 
Yeah. 

905
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,800
Like people, I mean, I don't, 
there's just so many there's 

906
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,600
this massive diet, culture 
phenomenon, that's been with us.

907
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:54,800
For generations of people just 
assume that the answer to 

908
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:57,100
everything is just eat less. 
And it's often times the worst 

909
00:47:57,100 --> 00:47:59,100
thing people can do. 
Yep. 

910
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:01,900
And then that opens a whole door
of that power. 

911
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:07,200
He's in calories out, which just
also dumbs down food as a 

912
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:11,100
two-dimensional substance if you
will and that's when then you 

913
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,800
lose that concept of, you know, 
are you even eating food? 

914
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,600
In the first place. 
Correct, 100%. 

915
00:48:16,900 --> 00:48:19,700
Let's switch the conversation 
yet again and talk about some 

916
00:48:19,700 --> 00:48:23,800
some parenting around nutrition.
So you can shinned, baby LED 

917
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:25,300
weaning before we even started 
recording. 

918
00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:28,100
Can you define that? 
Yes. 

919
00:48:28,100 --> 00:48:34,400
So baby LED weaning is a 
introduction to solid foods that

920
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:39,400
is done to an a baby often 
around the 6-month Mark but it 

921
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:45,400
might be as late as the seventh 
or eighth month, usually. 67 is 

922
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,500
the common time we watch for a 
couple different signs of 

923
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,300
Readiness and babes. 
So babe, has to be able to, of 

924
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:56,300
course, sit up and have good 
head control. 

925
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,900
Babe, should no longer be doing 
the tongue thrust where they're 

926
00:48:59,900 --> 00:49:02,100
kind of kicking things out with 
their tongue. 

927
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,900
They should have a pretty 
developed pincer grasp grasp, 

928
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:10,500
which is the pinch, kind of 
between the index and thumb of, 

929
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:13,100
which they can pick things up 
and good motor skills to be able

930
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:15,100
to bring food. 
Adds to their mouth. 

931
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:20,100
The idea of baby LED weaning is 
that we're going to bypass the 

932
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:23,400
world of purees. 
Now, there is some kind of 

933
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,700
everything has a Venn diagram if
you will. 

934
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,300
So there are some schools of 
thought that will use some forms

935
00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,900
of purees eventually maybe at 
like month eight or month nine. 

936
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,100
But in the world of baby LED 
weaning, that puree would be 

937
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:40,100
placed on a spoon for the baby 
to pick up at will and put in 

938
00:49:40,100 --> 00:49:42,800
their own mouth. 
And so for instance, if you were

939
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:46,500
trying to get like liver Into 
baby and maybe you want to do 

940
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:50,500
like a pate, you know, that be 
kind of like a puree, but 

941
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,900
obviously, so different in the 
world of what we're thinking of 

942
00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:57,700
when we're thinking of standard 
baby foods, which the issue is 

943
00:49:57,700 --> 00:50:01,000
with, with most of the time, you
go to the doctor and the doctor 

944
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,300
says, okay, your baby is ready 
for solids. 

945
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,800
And the solid foods that are 
used in the states are, you 

946
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:12,000
know, either rice or oatmeal 
cereal, we've seen, High 

947
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,000
contamination, like ours. 
Nick Glyphosate with these Foods

948
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,100
especially if they're not 
certified organic. 

949
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:20,900
And even in certified organic, 
we could still see Trace Amounts

950
00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:25,900
of these and they're just going 
to be providing a naked carb a 

951
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:28,300
little bit more props. 
If you're mixing breast milk 

952
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,800
with said dried cereals could 
getting some actual nutrient 

953
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,700
density, but all of those rice 
cereals or you know grain-based 

954
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,100
cereals are going to be 
fortified and those are 

955
00:50:39,100 --> 00:50:42,500
synthetically enriched and so 
when we're doing that we're 

956
00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:45,800
right away getting you know 
Unnatural form, a synthetic form

957
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,100
of folate into baby and that's 
why, you know, everyone's so 

958
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:55,000
aware now of this MTHFR, this 
genetic snip that influences 

959
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:58,600
methylation in the body because 
we've seen such a rise of ADHD 

960
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,900
and autism, and we're starting 
to try to figure out, you know, 

961
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:04,400
why are we having issues with 
this pathway in the brain? 

962
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,900
And I think one part is that, 
you know, we're feeding 

963
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:11,100
fortified Foods way too early 
and, I mean, great babies that 

964
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,800
are getting formula are getting 
fortified synthetic. 

965
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:16,500
Enriched folic acid. 
And you really want, that 

966
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:20,900
methylated form of folate. 
So that's one, big concern and 

967
00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:23,700
then it's the naked car blood 
sugar dysregulation. 

968
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:27,000
That's a huge concern and when 
you're using baby LED weaning, 

969
00:51:27,500 --> 00:51:29,800
you can actually start baby with
fats. 

970
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,500
That's what we did in my 
household and then go next to 

971
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:38,300
proteins and then bring in 
carbohydrates, often always 

972
00:51:38,300 --> 00:51:41,000
paired with proteins and fats 
and that kind of gets into more 

973
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,700
of my, like, naturally nourished
scope. 

974
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Baby LED weaning. 
You know, most of it is just the

975
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,400
idea of letting baby on their 
own autonomy. 

976
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,600
Pick up and feed themselves and 
we see good studies on that 

977
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,600
supporting. 
Of course, autonomy Independence

978
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,200
satiety. 
And then when you're using it, 

979
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,000
in my scope and and getting more
fats and proteins and we're 

980
00:52:01,008 --> 00:52:04,600
going to see of course, better 
priming for metabolic health and

981
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,000
blood sugar metabolism as well 
as cognition. 

982
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,600
I mean, brain development, 
really, it's such a shame Robert

983
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,800
when we look at the RDA for 
toddlers. 

984
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,400
It's recommended And generally 
13 grams of protein for 

985
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,700
toddlers. 
A day, which is just I mean my 

986
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:24,500
daughter at Age 2 is consuming 
45 to 60 grams of protein a day.

987
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:28,000
So I mean I just think it's 
pretty remarkable. 

988
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,600
Yeah it is kind of wildlife. 
We were trying to find the 

989
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,900
stance on what nutrition in 
breast milk is and it's kind of 

990
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,200
you know hard to tell for 
certain less you actually go and

991
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,700
get it tested because I would 
assume the nutritional profile 

992
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:40,700
of crystals breast. 
Milk is far different than 

993
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:44,300
someone's eating the standard 
American diet but like we Math. 

994
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:46,900
And it was like, based off of 
what rigel is supposedly eating 

995
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:49,200
throughout a day. 
Based off his feeding frequency,

996
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,900
he's getting about 1 gram of 
protein per pound of mass, you 

997
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:54,900
know, from from the breast milk 
roughly. 

998
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:55,800
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

999
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,800
When he starts eating solid 
food, that's going to Skyrocket.

1000
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:00,600
So whooping far more than 
thirteen or fourteen grams a 

1001
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:03,400
day. 
Yeah and I mean it's again so 

1002
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:07,400
sad because babies in utero are 
actually making ketones, right? 

1003
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,900
And so every baby even actually 
I mean I don't know to what 

1004
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:13,700
level of uncontrolled, 
gestational diabetes may be a 

1005
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:16,400
Baby wouldn't be. 
But generally speaking, you 

1006
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,400
know, even a mom that isn't 
eating and Kido babies are using

1007
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,500
ketones as fuel in utero, and 
then a breastfed baby is making 

1008
00:53:24,500 --> 00:53:29,000
ketones and then we just robbed 
humans of that, hybrid ability 

1009
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,800
of using both fat and glucose as
fuel. 

1010
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:36,000
And just make them convert right
away with with those solids. 

1011
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,700
If we're using cereals right 
away to just exclusively using 

1012
00:53:39,700 --> 00:53:42,200
glucose has fuel. 
And so, I think, when I again, 

1013
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,400
when I look at ancestral 
patterns, Eating just, as I 

1014
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,300
believe that humans work really 
well as omnivores. 

1015
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:52,900
I also just as equally, see the 
importance of keeping humans. 

1016
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:56,200
In this hybrid ability to have 
access of ketones as fuel. 

1017
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,100
Yeah. 1000%. 
On that note, you know, most 

1018
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:02,700
like human our kids especially 
that are growing. 

1019
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:05,800
They have a much higher 
metabolic rate, you know, at 

1020
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:09,300
rest, you know, given given a 
lot of situations are but I 

1021
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:11,100
mean, they're going to be 
burning a lot, more more, 

1022
00:54:11,100 --> 00:54:12,800
readily than most of us that are
sitting in an office all day 

1023
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,900
long. 
They're going to have a higher 

1024
00:54:14,900 --> 00:54:17,500
tolerance for carbohydrate 
consumption, generally speaking,

1025
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,400
and for that reason, it makes 
total sense in my mind where 

1026
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,500
they would be able to tolerate 
more fruits, more vegetables. 

1027
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,300
Sure more, things of that nature
than a lot of the sedentary 

1028
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,200
general population would. 
Now on that note, is there, do 

1029
00:54:30,207 --> 00:54:34,100
you think there's any adverse 
long-term effects that would 

1030
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:38,400
come from having a child grow 
pretty well, following a 

1031
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,800
standard ketogenic diet as 
opposed to more of a mix that 

1032
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:44,900
even I mean I would assume they 
would still be able to Be 

1033
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:47,900
producing a pretty good degree 
of ketones, even if their total 

1034
00:54:47,900 --> 00:54:50,600
carbohydrate intake was less 
than 100 grams a day, based off 

1035
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,500
of their activity and their 
expenditure, but no doubt find 

1036
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:56,900
any adverse effects. 
If a adolescent was to be 

1037
00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:59,900
following a ketogenic diet from 
the get-go and continue on. 

1038
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:05,900
Well, I mean in the neurological
conditions population of 

1039
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:10,000
children, obviously epilepsy and
when we think of seizure 

1040
00:55:10,300 --> 00:55:13,700
control, that's when we go into,
of course the kind of more 

1041
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,500
Clinical keto approach, where 
it's that, that three or four to

1042
00:55:17,500 --> 00:55:22,700
one ratio in that world, you 
know, when we're not even 

1043
00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:25,800
allowing protein, we're really 
suppressing protein to get fat 

1044
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,300
up at that ratio. 
I think that long-term effects 

1045
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:32,900
cost of benefit, obviously for 
neurological Health, outweigh, 

1046
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,800
the impact to maybe the 
comprehensive nutrient density, 

1047
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:41,000
but if we're using more of an 
approach of Quito of being fat 

1048
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,800
dominant, but also getting a 
good amount of A protein and not

1049
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,900
suppressing protein intake. 
I think that that can absolutely

1050
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:53,300
be sustained. 
So my daughter when we worked 

1051
00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:57,000
with baby LED weaning, she 
started with avocado and she 

1052
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,400
worked with avocado for a good 
10 days. 

1053
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,300
If not two weeks until she was 
really rocking it and like 

1054
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:07,100
eating avocado because you know,
at first they're like just 

1055
00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:09,800
trying to get in their mouth and
then they're like gum in it and 

1056
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,500
like spitting it out and 
figuring it out and it was just 

1057
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:15,100
a very we try to keep it super 
Low-stress we'd always play good

1058
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:17,400
music. 
We were just kind of chill and 

1059
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:18,900
she'd hang out at the dinner 
table and just play with 

1060
00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:21,600
avocado. 
And even prior to that, I would 

1061
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:25,800
allow her for like sensory. 
We worked with smells. 

1062
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,600
So like if I was slicing 
something, I would bring it to 

1063
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:31,700
her so that she could start to 
create some of that salivary 

1064
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:34,800
enzyme release. 
So, we did that like at month 

1065
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,900
for where, if I was cutting up 
carrots for something, I would 

1066
00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:40,000
give her a whole care and she 
would just kind of gum it, you 

1067
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,000
know, in tooth it and I think 
that that's a really great way 

1068
00:56:43,008 --> 00:56:47,400
to start to pray. 
Them for foods and Beyond the 

1069
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:49,300
avocado. 
Then she went secondary to 

1070
00:56:49,300 --> 00:56:53,900
salmon. 
And then from there, she went to

1071
00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:56,900
Blueberry, I believe with her 
third food so that was her first

1072
00:56:56,900 --> 00:57:00,500
quote, unquote harb. 
If you will, obviously quite low

1073
00:57:00,500 --> 00:57:04,400
glycemic and the ratio of the 
amount of Barry that she was 

1074
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,200
having at that seven months, 
Mark was probably a tablespoon 

1075
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,500
kind of per meal type thing. 
And it really I would say until 

1076
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:16,800
that first year, Where did she 
start to bring her carbs even to

1077
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:22,100
hit goodness, 45 50 grams. 
And that's when we were 

1078
00:57:22,100 --> 00:57:26,000
incorporating, you know, roasted
sweet potato and coconut oil and

1079
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,600
you know, just continuing to 
kind of move into more of a 

1080
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:34,000
Paleo wish approach to eating. 
I think that carbs find children

1081
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,900
everywhere they are especially 
when they get into the toddler 

1082
00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:43,500
plus ages and are socializing or
at some form of school or you 

1083
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:47,300
know, Camps or whatever it is 
friends, houses, Gatherings 

1084
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:49,300
carbs? 
Always find them. 

1085
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,400
And so that's not one that I 
prioritize as a nutrient-dense 

1086
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:57,800
goal, when I'm working with 
kiddos, like Toddlers and kids, 

1087
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:02,300
I do aim to get two to three 
colors in each meal and so 

1088
00:58:02,300 --> 00:58:05,900
often, you know, two of those 
maybe like a red bell, pepper, 

1089
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:09,800
or green, roasted broccoli. 
And then they might do purple or

1090
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:12,500
blue in the world of that 
blueberry or, you know, a 

1091
00:58:12,508 --> 00:58:13,700
different shade of red and the 
resulting. 

1092
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:17,400
A raspberry but generally when 
I'm saying choosing three 

1093
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,400
colors, we try to aim for two of
those coming from. 

1094
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,500
Veg one from a carb. 
Yeah, so totally. 

1095
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,900
Well, within the realm of them 
still following a low carb diets

1096
00:58:25,900 --> 00:58:27,900
nutrient-dense Foods. 
I mean, no, no. 

1097
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:29,300
Pop Tarts and Hot Pockets, 
right? 

1098
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:32,400
Yeah, no doubt. 
Yeah. 

1099
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,900
I mean, it's wild and with my 
daughter at age, six. 

1100
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:39,700
So, like, I'll tell you what her
lunch was today, just so you can

1101
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:41,900
kind of get a snapshot of what 
things are looking like for her.

1102
00:58:41,900 --> 00:58:46,100
So for breakfast at these Is she
weighs 45 pounds? 

1103
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,900
She's super strong athletic. 
Build step. 

1104
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,100
Pretty great abs, actually, when
I saw her on the monkey bars 

1105
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:58,800
recently, but she will eat for 
breakfast like to pasture-raised

1106
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:04,500
eggs, raw cheddar and bacon, and
that's just with water and then 

1107
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:08,000
she'll probably like a half cup 
of some form of berries, and 

1108
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,900
then her lunch. 
She's really into kabobs these 

1109
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:13,200
days. 
So if we're doing like a 

1110
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,300
meatball All sometimes will be a
lunch and that's a great way to 

1111
00:59:16,300 --> 00:59:19,600
get organs into your kiddos. 
And so, you know, we might do 

1112
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,000
like a ancestral blend of 
grass-fed meats, and then add in

1113
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,100
a quarter, pound of ground, 
heart and liver. 

1114
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,700
And that's a really great way 
than in a flavored meatball with

1115
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:31,500
a bunch of herbs and seasonings 
that something. 

1116
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:37,300
She'll go for but today was 
in-house roasted turkey cubes 

1117
00:59:37,300 --> 00:59:40,800
with cucumber. 
Slices bell. 

1118
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:44,900
Pepper slice and an olive and 
She like, we put these on these,

1119
00:59:44,900 --> 00:59:46,900
like, cool looking toothpicks, 
because she thinks it's kind of 

1120
00:59:46,908 --> 00:59:49,000
a cool thing, a little bento 
box. 

1121
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:53,900
And then she had some wild 
salmon B in the other part of 

1122
00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:57,800
her bento box. 
And then, the next container was

1123
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:01,700
torn up pieces of dried mango 
and pistachio. 

1124
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:07,200
And then in the fourth section 
was, leftover, roasted broccoli.

1125
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:10,600
That's kind of, like what her 
lunch looks like. 

1126
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,500
So she got protein. 
Yeah. 

1127
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:15,300
So she got protein from Um, she 
got two and a half ounces of 

1128
01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:18,500
that, turkey one ounce of 
cheddar and then she got an 

1129
01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:19,900
ounce and a half of the wild 
salmon. 

1130
01:00:19,900 --> 01:00:24,800
So I mean just in that lunch, 
she's getting a solid, you know,

1131
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:27,600
30 + grams of protein. 
So when she's in like a field 

1132
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,400
trip and she, you know, pops 
open her lunchbox, like the 

1133
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,700
other kids looking at her, like 
what are you eating? 

1134
01:00:32,700 --> 01:00:35,400
Or they like jealous or they 
like, you know, trying to give 

1135
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:36,800
her a Go-Gurt. 
Like, how's that working? 

1136
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,700
I think it's a combination. 
She's pretty empowered and so 

1137
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:43,100
she'll it's funny. 
She was at a church camp over 

1138
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:44,900
the summer. 
And they got out of the swimming

1139
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:47,500
pool and they were giving 
chocolate chip cookies to the 

1140
01:00:47,508 --> 01:00:50,500
kids and Stella's like, oh, I 
don't think that that's 

1141
01:00:50,500 --> 01:00:52,100
gluten-free. 
I can't have that. 

1142
01:00:52,300 --> 01:00:54,900
And they went and got her a 
popsicle and she goes. 

1143
01:00:54,900 --> 01:00:57,300
Well, I'm pretty sure that has 
food coloring in it. 

1144
01:00:57,300 --> 01:01:02,500
So, I also can I like it? 
Because I feel like them and 

1145
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:05,200
Empower them like they're, I 
mean, they're all about it. 

1146
01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:07,300
Yeah, I mean, it's cool. 
It's cool. 

1147
01:01:07,300 --> 01:01:10,700
She's a little diva about it and
she'll just be like, uh, and I 

1148
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:13,600
mean at age four she would start
to see like, at the grocery. 

1149
01:01:13,700 --> 01:01:16,700
Us restore characters, you know,
because they're marketed to 

1150
01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:19,100
kids. 
So they'll put the PAW Patrol or

1151
01:01:19,100 --> 01:01:23,400
the Frozen or the whatever on 
the gushers and the gummies and 

1152
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,400
the all the the crap. 
And you know, I would use the 

1153
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,000
time. 
We'd look at it, would flip over

1154
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,700
the container and I'd reader the
words and we would talk about 

1155
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:34,000
how, you know, these are not 
whole real foods. 

1156
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,300
There's a lot of words in here, 
and this is a really processed 

1157
01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:40,400
food and characters, don't 
belong on your food, you know, 

1158
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,200
characters, you can draw, you 
can color character Book you 

1159
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:47,000
might even have a figurine but 
that's not food food. 

1160
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,000
Doesn't need characters to sell 
them that doesn't require to 

1161
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,100
nourish your body and so now, 
she'll like, see a character 

1162
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,500
should like Mom, did you see 
that? 

1163
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:58,200
That's not a food, right? 
I'm like, you're right well, I 

1164
01:01:58,207 --> 01:02:00,200
think it's especially awesome. 
That you've got the land. 

1165
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:01,700
You can be doing the 
homesteading and she's going to 

1166
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:04,600
be right there mixed, like and 
it all because I think when you 

1167
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:07,000
do that like when you raise kids
online and they're getting their

1168
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:08,600
hands dirty and they're 
procuring their yeah. 

1169
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,900
Who like the depth of knowledge 
and appreciation that have for 

1170
01:02:11,900 --> 01:02:15,200
it just becomes just a 
Exponentially amplifying to the 

1171
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:17,400
point where they just that's 
just their norm and they take 

1172
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,300
that on you know, into the later
years of their life and that's 

1173
01:02:20,300 --> 01:02:22,400
worth it's worth its weight in 
gold for sure. 

1174
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,400
Yeah and I mean I've even done 
programs back in the day in 

1175
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,400
Houston. 
I was in the Fifth Ward in a 

1176
01:02:29,408 --> 01:02:34,800
pretty, I don't know pretty 
urban urban area and it was a 

1177
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:36,700
organization called recipe for 
Success. 

1178
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:40,100
So we would bring garden beds on
to these Urban campuses and 

1179
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:42,500
teach the kids how to grow food.
And then we would do this 

1180
01:02:42,500 --> 01:02:45,200
exercise where we actually Like 
a Hot Pocket. 

1181
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:49,100
And we would have, this was like
third and fourth graders and 

1182
01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:51,100
we'd hand the chalk around. 
And I mean you could have a 

1183
01:02:51,107 --> 01:02:54,600
class of 18 and all of them 
would write one ingredient of 

1184
01:02:54,607 --> 01:02:57,000
the hot pocket on the board and 
it was just hilarious because it

1185
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:03,000
took forever like you know, 
partially hydrogenated soybean 

1186
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:06,100
oil take a long time for a third
grader to write. 

1187
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,700
Yeah. 
And and, you know, maltodextrine

1188
01:03:08,700 --> 01:03:10,600
and we'll and then what we would
do is we would take a colored 

1189
01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:13,200
piece of chalk and we would go 
around the classroom and say, 

1190
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,900
okay, What, what, what 
ingredients do? 

1191
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:17,200
You know what they look like? 
And then we would color the 

1192
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,900
other color, the ones that they 
don't know what they look like, 

1193
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:23,500
and then we would take a recipe 
to make pizza, right? 

1194
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:25,900
And so, yeah, you know, maybe 
not the most nourishing food, 

1195
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:30,600
but to really exemplify like, 
okay, this is like flour, water 

1196
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:34,900
yeast, Tomatoes, ground down or 
blended with olive oil and 

1197
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:36,900
herbs. 
And it was just really cool to 

1198
01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:40,600
see, you know, kids, that were 
bringing talkies and and soda 

1199
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,300
and eaten. 
You know, process fast food 

1200
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:47,300
really Have those like strikes 
of aha moments of like oh yeah 

1201
01:03:47,300 --> 01:03:50,000
like this isn't food and then 
watch them take that home in 

1202
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,000
their household and you know, 
really be open to eating fresh 

1203
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,300
things that they've grown. 
But also just that that deep 

1204
01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:59,900
understanding of the impact of 
what we're putting in our 

1205
01:03:59,900 --> 01:04:01,600
bodies. 
Yeah, I mean when you look at 

1206
01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:04,600
like this, it's so sad. 
I've seen so many like 

1207
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,500
legitimately morbidly obese kids
like less than 10 years old and 

1208
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:12,000
it's just sad. 
Like they're growing up not 

1209
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,800
knowing any of this stuff. 
I that's just kind of what What 

1210
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:15,300
their parents eat? 
They make it really easily 

1211
01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:17,800
accessible to them. 
They don't moderate it at all. 

1212
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,200
They don't educate him at all 
and they just they're plagued 

1213
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,200
with these massive health 
issues, right out the gates. 

1214
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,500
And like, if you can just offset
that by simply taking the time 

1215
01:04:26,700 --> 01:04:30,000
to explain what the ingredient 
list is on the back of a box and

1216
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,300
Empower them. 
Like, that's how we change the 

1217
01:04:32,300 --> 01:04:34,000
next Generations. 
Healthspan right there. 

1218
01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,900
Yeah, yep. 
And and right, I think education

1219
01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:39,200
and empowerment is so key and 
it's wild. 

1220
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,500
I mean, the toddler's RDA for 
carbohydrates is 150. 

1221
01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:46,400
G, that's the minimum 
recommendation. 

1222
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:51,200
And I mean we're seeing so much 
of these carbs coming from 

1223
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,100
crystallized. 
Fructose still high fructose, 

1224
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:56,200
corn syrup. 
And so we're seeing kiddos not 

1225
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,500
only with diabetes. 
I mean it was just in the last 

1226
01:04:58,500 --> 01:05:01,900
two decades that it used to be 
called type 2 diabetes used to 

1227
01:05:01,908 --> 01:05:06,200
be called adult onset diabetes 
you know juvenile diabetes was 

1228
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:09,100
just type one. 
Only that was the only form and 

1229
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,300
so this is just in the last 
couple decades now that we've 

1230
01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:14,000
had to Rebrand, if you will you 
know to quote Don't quote 

1231
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:17,500
normalize this excessive 
carbohydrate and processed 

1232
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:21,400
refined sugar consumption. 
And you know we're also seeing 

1233
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:26,500
kiddos and adolescents with 
fatty liver at Young ages and I 

1234
01:05:26,508 --> 01:05:30,100
mean it's just wild. 
We emphasize the influence of 

1235
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:32,400
course of alcohol awareness and 
whatnot. 

1236
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,200
But I think what's really scary 
in today's culture when we look 

1237
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,600
at kind of trying to support 
Mass empowerment and mass 

1238
01:05:40,600 --> 01:05:45,500
education is the The slippery 
slope of this kind of like all 

1239
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:51,500
foods fit and the movement of 
Health at every size and, you 

1240
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:54,000
know, I think of course there's 
always a line right? 

1241
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:55,500
That it's not appropriate to 
body. 

1242
01:05:55,500 --> 01:05:57,900
Shame, anyone or of course to 
bully someone. 

1243
01:05:58,300 --> 01:06:01,900
But I think that it's okay to 
talk about what Fitness looks 

1244
01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:05,300
like. 
It's okay to talk about how you 

1245
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:07,500
best support your body's 
function. 

1246
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,800
What stresses your organs and I 
think it's just a such a 

1247
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:15,100
disservice in some of the the 
cultural shifts we're seeing now

1248
01:06:15,100 --> 01:06:18,400
or cultural norms of. 
I forget the the artist but 

1249
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:20,800
there was like something that 
came out of them. 

1250
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,500
So I'm so out of touch with pop 
culture. 

1251
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:24,600
But it's like Lizzie or Izzy or 
I don't know. 

1252
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,700
Someone's, yeah. 
Part on instacart, you know, or 

1253
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:32,000
whatever and it's just it's just
total garbage and I'm like, why 

1254
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:35,600
is that this like, why are 
people ordering that cart? 

1255
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:37,500
Don't they see that? 
That doesn't create health. 

1256
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:40,400
I'm very confused with the the 
disconnect there and 

1257
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,100
unfortunately now it feels like 
there's that that kind of line 

1258
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,400
of like Aiming. 
And that's what's hard. 

1259
01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:49,100
I think in the school systems is
now empowerment education of 

1260
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:51,900
true Wellness. 
Yeah, it's sad because like, I 

1261
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,200
mean, this could become a whole 
talk on philosophy and Paul. 

1262
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,800
Yeah and everything. 
But like when you I'm totally on

1263
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:02,200
board with wanting to be just 
open arms and like helping 

1264
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:04,100
people of all different 
backgrounds, all different 

1265
01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:07,000
races, a lily everything. 
I bet that's important but the 

1266
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,700
this massive push for this all 
inclusivity Factor comes at the 

1267
01:07:11,700 --> 01:07:14,100
cost in certain industries, 
especially Really around like, 

1268
01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:18,900
Food and Health to like there 
being no, no standards, no moral

1269
01:07:18,900 --> 01:07:20,600
code of ethics. 
No lines drawn. 

1270
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,100
And when you stand for nothing, 
then you fall for anything. 

1271
01:07:23,100 --> 01:07:25,400
I think that's exactly what 
we're seeing happening and 

1272
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,900
unfolding across multiple 
different Industries right now. 

1273
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:30,100
Well, I love that phrase. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1274
01:07:30,100 --> 01:07:35,500
I got actually in Austin kicked 
off of a panel essentially in 

1275
01:07:35,900 --> 01:07:40,800
2019 because I forget it was a 
women's empowerment, you know, 

1276
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,300
panel and I was talking about 
how to empower yourself through 

1277
01:07:43,300 --> 01:07:43,900
food. 
Good. 

1278
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:48,400
And I said something to the 
effect on the microphone about 

1279
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:53,000
how know, you know, Oreos just 
should not be consumed. 

1280
01:07:53,100 --> 01:07:56,000
Like like I'm sorry. 
Like there's no amount of Oreo 

1281
01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,100
that is a healthy amount of Oreo
of like, if you want chocolate, 

1282
01:08:00,100 --> 01:08:01,600
you can eat an 80% chocolate 
bar. 

1283
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:02,700
If you want, you know what I 
mean? 

1284
01:08:02,700 --> 01:08:07,700
Like, there's a way to satiate 
cravings and to even have an 

1285
01:08:07,700 --> 01:08:09,600
Indulgence, I think is 
appropriate. 

1286
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:13,400
But at what level are we dumbing
ourselves? 

1287
01:08:13,600 --> 01:08:17,700
Down to accept eating processed.
Again, I apologize for the third

1288
01:08:17,700 --> 01:08:20,200
time saying, shit, but but now 
forth. 

1289
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,600
You know what level are we doing
ourselves down to consume 

1290
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:25,800
chemical shitstorms and call 
them Foods at what services 

1291
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,000
that? 
And I just think, unfortunately,

1292
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:33,500
the the connection of, as we 
know, big egg and processed 

1293
01:08:33,500 --> 01:08:39,500
food, industry and Pharma is 
very tightly intertwined. 

1294
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:44,500
And so, there's a lot of dollars
behind keeping Well in the dark 

1295
01:08:44,500 --> 01:08:49,700
and disempowerment because you 
know you can save your mucus 

1296
01:08:49,700 --> 01:08:52,600
that you could pay her Farmers 
now or your ranchers and eat 

1297
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:55,300
whole real foods or you're 
paying your doctors and your 

1298
01:08:55,300 --> 01:08:59,200
insurance and your, you know, 
your co-pays and you're, you 

1299
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,500
know, refills at your 
prescriptions later, that's just

1300
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:05,200
kind of how that goes. 
Yeah, 1000% I feel like, you 

1301
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,800
know, I don't know the, I don't 
think that the solution to the 

1302
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,399
problem is to ban or outlaw that
like I'm very much so pro-choice

1303
01:09:11,399 --> 01:09:13,899
and is having the option to 
consume whatever we Choose to 

1304
01:09:13,907 --> 01:09:16,100
consume. 
Like, if, if you were to try to 

1305
01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:18,399
have a Prohibition of Oreos, 
it's not going to go over too 

1306
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,500
well, right? 
Don't kid yourself into thinking

1307
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,399
that it's a health food or that 
it's okay. 

1308
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,300
Like just I mean nobody is going
to argue. 

1309
01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:29,800
That alcohol is a health food. 
Now, right, have the maturity 

1310
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,899
and responsibility to consume a 
small amount and recognize you 

1311
01:09:32,899 --> 01:09:36,700
know what the the cost benefit 
is there then by all means, go 

1312
01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:39,000
for it. 
But don't don't lie to yourself 

1313
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,899
into thinking that, you know, 
Oreos, these processed foods are

1314
01:09:41,899 --> 01:09:44,000
going to be like any form of 
Food. 

1315
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:46,100
Yes. 
Yes, right. 

1316
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:49,500
No doubt, Wiley. 
I know you've got your lard 

1317
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:51,600
rendering right now, so I don't 
want to keep you too long here. 

1318
01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,400
But where do people go to find 
out more about you and dive 

1319
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:59,000
deeper into your world goodness.
So, you can hang out with me on 

1320
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,900
social, like, Instagram and 
Facebook under Ali Miller Rd so 

1321
01:10:02,900 --> 01:10:07,900
it's just Alim IL lerrrd. 
And I'm sure that's where I'll 

1322
01:10:07,900 --> 01:10:09,900
start to do a little bit more 
stories and stuff. 

1323
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:12,900
I just got out of Instagram 
censorship jail. 

1324
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:15,600
So Now, you can tag me and find 
me and all the things. 

1325
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,600
Yes, this is a very big 
celebration there. 

1326
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:22,900
And then my website is Ali, 
Miller are d.com. 

1327
01:10:22,900 --> 01:10:25,900
And on there is where I have my 
naturally nourished, supplement 

1328
01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:28,300
line. 
I have protocols. 

1329
01:10:28,300 --> 01:10:32,300
So things anything from estrogen
dominance to supporting your 

1330
01:10:32,300 --> 01:10:37,100
thyroid to an immune protocol, 
to seasonal allergies and so 

1331
01:10:37,100 --> 01:10:39,700
forth. 
Bone broth, fasting, protocols 

1332
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:42,200
and all sorts of stuff there and
that's in my learn Tab. 

1333
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:46,300
And And I still have on 
naturally nourished our d.com, 

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that's where my podcast lives 
and the podcast and YouTube are 

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called naturally nourished. 
And then, you know, you can find

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the YouTube channel on YouTube. 
And the podcast is anywhere. 

1337
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,300
You can listen to a podcast. 
So, you know, Google Play and 

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01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:03,900
Apple, iTunes and all of all the
spots. 

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01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:05,600
Awesome. 
I would definitely count to all 

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of those. 
Make it easy for people to find 

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01:11:07,100 --> 01:11:08,500
you. 
You are a wealth of knowledge. 

1342
01:11:08,500 --> 01:11:11,300
Always Point all my clients that
have questions on hormones to 

1343
01:11:11,300 --> 01:11:12,700
you. 
Because you are the bomb, 

1344
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:16,100
diggity Fighting the good fight.
So keep doing exactly what 

1345
01:11:16,100 --> 01:11:18,000
you're doing. 
Thank you brother. 

1346
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,600
Happy to be on, always a fun 
time. 

1347
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,900
Talking with you chat soon. 
I'll be in Wimberley to check 

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out the market here before too 
long. 

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Well it sounds good. 
Take care.

