Well hello ladies and gents Robert Sykes keto, Savage.com.
And today I've got special guest and good friend, Ali Miller back
on the podcast, we dive deep into it.
All we talked about her homesteading Endeavors.
She's recently purchased 15 Acres.
She's building out all these Garden.
She's going to have chickens. It's going to be great.
We talked about homesteading regenerative, agriculture, all
that good stuff. And then we do a deep dive into
hormone, specifically, female hormones, Women's Health
menopause. What are some factors that you
can control to optimize for that naturally?
And then if you need to go the Hodges route.
What does that look like thoroughly?
Enjoyed that learned a ton. And then we talk about parenting
especially around nutrition, baby LED weaning, all that good
stuff. Really?
Enjoy the conversation. I've got a ton of respect for
Allie, she is a wealth of knowledge.
I learned so much, every single time we chant.
So that further Ado, sit back, relax and do a podcast with Ali
Miller and we are live Hey, how are you?
I am doing awesome. How you doing Robert?
I'm doing wonderfully well as well.
It's been a while since I've had you on the podcast.
I was recently on years and I saw you at what conference?
I see you at. What was that was?
That key, dokkan, dokkan dokkan. Yes.
And it was awesome seeing you. We haven't seen each other in
quite some time due to the pandemic.
Yes. But yeah, we need we have a
little ketchup call, which is what this podcast is all about.
So what's Revenue in your world? Since since we last spoke on the
podcast, I know you got a great In house you're building right
now. All kinds of homesteading stuff.
I just want to dive into your world a little bit.
Well okay, yeah. I mean we keep it Rockin so in
my personal world we acquired we purchased a property that's 15
Acres out in Hill Country here and that was in December of
2020. And so we finally just got our
well, and we started trenching or irrigation lines and our
electrical lines, and we have an acre and a half of that high.
Ends 2 because we have some black bucks and really cool
Exotics on our on our Ranch area and they'll eat all of the
things. So we have a acre and a half
that's high fenced like eight foot high and then a chicken
coop, a greenhouse, and then garden beds and we're starting
an orchard. So lots of fun in the Texas sun
and you know, just exciting being a city slicker trying to
learn about. Getting my hands in the dirt and
see if we can grow things in rocks, not freaking love it.
What? About some Texas, are you?
You're pretty close to Austin, right?
Yeah. So we're in Wimberley which is
just about an hour outside and then also what I've done since
we talked Robert is I'm opening a market out here so it's a
pretty rural area. Its population, like 2000 and
people were driving an hour to go into Whole Foods or you know,
Central Market or some of the, you know, more natural grocer
options or even farmers markets. And so I've partnered with all
of my favorite ranches, And farms.
And in October, we are going to have naturally nourished Market
in Wimberley Texas. And so it's like 65 to 70
percent of the items. You can get there, you can't get
in any grocery store. A lot of small businesses that
were supporting you no direct producers sold at our store,
including raw milk and all sorts of nutrient dense, stuff that
you couldn't purchase without a membership.
So, we're doing kind of like, a buyer's club model to really
support. Art, you know, the slow food
movement and regenerative agriculture and vote with our
dollar to try to decentralize agriculture.
Which is really, what's destroying sustainability and
food security. So that's been another exciting
project and then I'm still running my clinic, I'm still
working as a functional medicine, practitioner seeing
patients all the time and of course, from 2022, 21 a lot, a
lot of focus on immune health and fact, that's what I lectured
about at Kido. On was the keto immune
connection and it's really quite a remarkable topic.
But, yeah, I've been doing all the things.
All the things I love it. I love it.
We have a whole podcast just on homesteading.
It sounds like, with what may be happening in a year with regard
to the, the market? I had no idea.
So, is that something like when we ship keto bricks?
We have to go through all kinds of legal Hoops to like, you
know, have a commercial-grade kitchen.
Have that inspect all that, good stuff.
I'm assuming with it being more Or locationally based like for
all the local community, it's kind of like a like a farmers
market that sense that you don't have near as many Hoops to jump
through from a legality standpoint.
Right? Well, so in Texas I believe this
is a Texas thing there is it's called the it's not homestead
law, it's the cottage kitchen law and cottage kitchen.
Law means any producer that makes under fifty thousand
dollars can produce in their home.
And so you know all these small-scale you know whether
it's just a beekeeper with raw honey or whether On making paleo
baked goods. We have a lot of the businesses
like that but then we are doing a prepared food line and we're
working out of a commercial kitchen ourselves.
And I'd say about two thirds of our vendors, are using some form
of a commentary kitchen, you know, maybe they're leasing it
as like a kitchen chair, but we do have that Cottage food law,
which is really cool for entrepreneurs, jumping into
things, and, you know, getting their feet wet.
It's freaking awesome. This is, this is launching in
October. You said yes, October 3rd.
Yeah, let's make a trip down to Wimberley.
Just to say yeah, this is awesome.
Yes, yes, give me super cool. So, with rendering I'm rendering
lard today. Actually.
Nice. I was just at the kitchen.
Yeah, I think it's like, we got a whole hog 315 pound, hog
delivered last Thursday. And so, I had got all the fat
and we have five slow cookers going in the kitchen and we're
just rendering out some lard. I love it, I love it.
So you have no, like you weren't brought up doing any of this
stuff, right? You said you were sitting The
current like this is all totally new to you.
Yes. I mean I knew to me, I guess is
an extension because I'm speaking to you at 37 years
young and I've been at this since, you know, probably age
18. When I moved out on my own is
when I really started learning about food as medicine.
And really starting to dig into the idea that this all starts
with whole real foods and even just understanding the concept
of what is a whole food and and what is a chemical I'll shit
storm because apparently I was fed chemical should storms in
the perception of food for so long.
It took me until kind of being on my own to start to learn that
curve. And it's been quite a
trajectory, but I mean, I really delve Doven deep at age, 18 and
was licensed with my functional medicine, registered dietitians
license at age 24. So from there it's just been
kind of rock and roll and with that functional medicine, you
know, curriculum. They They really kind of lean
into the food is medicine approach and like going with a
natural as opposed to traditional Western medicine and
which that's just totally an afterthought.
Correct. Yes, the interesting thing is I
went to bestir University, which is a naturopathic College of
Medicine and the school. When I was there, I when I
applied for the school, I was a vegan at the time, and I was
very into it, because they had Gardens on campus, they had
organic gardening classes Wild, Old medicine making.
So you would Forge for nettle and medicinal mushrooms and such
in the st. Edward's forest, and then bring
them back and dehydrate them and make tinctures and all sorts of
cool stuff. But I loved that it was a
vegetarian cafeteria and then it only took me like three quarters
of my first year in there. To very quickly, jump into more
of the Weston, a price wise Traditions.
You know, bone broth snout to tail philosophy of eating and
that was really came about from a Health crisis.
When When I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's thyroiditis and was
really insufficient in Iron, I was anemic had clinically low
B12 and all arrows were pointing to making peace with eating
animals and, you know, now about a bunch of how I've been
practicing. Of course, luckily, that was all
before, I got credentialed. And so I've always been
practicing as more of an ancestral approach to eating,
and although that wasn't necessarily supported at the
school, there were definitely professors that were all in on.
That concept, so that helped to bring me to the source if you
will. Do you feel like vent ancestral
approach to nutrition? Is, I mean, it definitely seems
to be gaining momentum in our circles.
Are, you know, our community, our keto low carb Community, but
do you feel like that's becoming more accepted in mainstream as
well? I think it is and I think it
just has to be, you know? I mean, Michael Pollan I think
did a really good job. Initially, I don't remember what
year that was that his first book came out when he compared,
you know, a solar powered machine, speaking of a grass-fed
cow, you know, not not an industrialized machine itself.
But how a cow was a solar powered machine and we made it
essentially, you know, horn fueled.
And what we've shifted in our Sterilize.
Agriculture has really destroyed nutrient density, created
obesity and just the amendment and input is just unsustainable.
Both for a cost and also the fact that we're just killing our
soil and without without soil, we don't have food.
Yeah, totally agree. I feel like when you just peel
the curtain back and look at the comments since practice.
It, it just makes sense that we're going to feel and function
better if we're eating quality wholesome single ingredient
Natural Foods. Ideally those of which we've
procured ourselves from know where they've come from that
way, we just have that, you know, closer knit relationship
with the food that were consuming.
Like, if you just simply distill this down to the core ethics,
it's like this is how humans have been eating.
This is how we've been eaten throughout our entire
evolutionary past. Why would we feel the need to
deviate from a drastically? No doubt and and just the little
things that mean. So there's the, there's the like
grandiose Dynamic of taking like a Beyond burger and a grass-fed
burger patty, right? And you look at wanting radiant
versus, you know, 14 plus and some of them genetically
modified, maybe many of them coming from all different
sources to fly into the factory for the input again, to create
this process product, there's carbohydrates in the Beyond
Burger, there is not as biologically available sources
of protein and it's, it is really defined as more of a
quote-unquote chemical, shitstorm, compared to something
that is a single identifiable, ingredient and And Beyond
nourishing. I mean, what's interesting is,
we can right now in I guess not Layman's but in a standard
understanding of nutrition Beyond I guess a functional
mindset. Most standard nutrition
understanding is just going to look at those nutrition facts
and yes, they could see the variance in carbs.
Yes, they can see the variance in the fat composition and in
the protein and at least understand the source.
But what we're not tapped into yet is a lot of the unique
elements. That meat, or biological protein
offers us. So, you know, talking about the
bioavailable B vitamins and even getting deeper from things like,
iron and minerals and vitamins, but actually getting deeper
until I command amide right. So Amanda might, is this
neuropeptide that creates the Bliss Factory familiar with
that? Yeah, like the Bliss factor that
love these corporate food companies are using.
Well, no, no, I'm and amide is a natural created neuropeptide and
we get a high of it in our Rain when we eat red meat.
It's like what makes us like salivate if we just sit and
think about a ribeye, right, right.
And so Amanda my dad, you can't, you can't mimic that, you know?
I mean, yes, of course there's there's food chemists all the
time, trying to make foods more addictive and keep dopamine
levels elevated, but this particular compound is actually
structurally. Very similar to cannabidiol, or
in the CBD, family it is unique but it kind of works with our
endocannabinoid system, which is It's reward, Bliss
anti-inflammatory anti-anxiety stress-reducing pathway that
every human body is wired with so it's pretty wild that you
know, again nature knows best. And there's these compounds that
you just can't mimic when you're trying to replace and we see
that if we pasteurize milk, you know, your denaturing, the
enzyme. So then you get lactose
intolerance because you don't get that lactase in the raw
milk. You know, you're not getting as
much of. Of course, the quality fats in
the conjugated linoleic. Alec acids.
And so I think it could just be extended where you don't have to
know what you're missing out on, but you can absolutely no with
utmost certainty. That the further away you get
from how it was naturally produced or how it grows on its
own, or how it's made to thrive. You're likely going to be kind
of shooting yourself in the foot by scapegoating and the process.
Yeah, totally 100% agree. So a lot of people are not going
to have the means to, you know, have a little Homestead
operation going on their own place to live in.
City or they just don't have the, the accessibility of the
land. But I'd love to kind of dive
into what you've got going on because I mean 15 Acres that's a
pretty good chunk of land. It's not a ton but it's I mean,
you can do a lot with 15 Acres. So yeah.
Just kind of break that down. Like what all are you planning
on from a livestock standpoint? How are you going to kind of
segments that land? Are you going to do with your in
tibetan culture and have chickens and pork than cattle
come into the same spot? In a circular motion, icons that
going to be broken down? Yeah, I know, I'm not that.
I'm not that exciting. I'm just doing a vet. 15 Acres
that the 1.5 as the high fenced area where we're going to have
the orchard The Gardens and we will have chickens 20 chickens
and they will have access to Rome.
We're keeping the garden beds closed off, but when monitored
because they otherwise they'll just eat it like a salad bar,
but when monitored will allow the chickens to graze and kind
of thin things out when we're turning over beds, we're right
now starting with eight beds that are eight by four, and four
of them are 20 feet, 20 inch Excuse me.
Hi and the other four are 24 high and that's going to be
pretty hefty production cycle to start, and that's called Phase
1. And then we have the opportunity
to add another 15 beds in on that Garden side.
And so we're going to kind of phase it in as we go.
But it's excited. We are irrigation has been fun.
We're working with these like Tinker Toys essentially it's a
company called dripworks and so, you know, playing with their
different, you know. No elbow joints.
And you know all the little pieces of making sure that we're
working around the beds from our valves and our tee ball valves
and all that's been quite the learning curve and there is in
our Ranch. I'm going to Ranch kind of
community if you will. It look a little gated community
of 18, lots and all of them are 10 to 15 Acres.
So there is some jurisdiction of, you know, how many cows you
can have anacs-- cetera, but one of my partners of the market has
she is The owner of solemn area and she has 300 Hogs up north a
couple hours. Yeah.
And they are fully regenerative agriculture model, they have
cattle on the property that they're leasing from actually
dairy farm. And so they kind of work with
them and they bring the Hogs into the land.
I love it. I love it.
So we have the flower gardens that are not find Gordon Gardens
vegetable gardens, what are you planning on planting there?
So we have. So we have some starts that were
done by a friend of mine because we didn't have water source to
literally this week. So the starts were done in early
August and that includes broccoli.
Green beans. Three.
Kinds of kale. We also have it as start.
I think potato is as a start and sweet potato slips, then we have
by seed, we're It carrots. And then there still are some
starts from what would be like a summer crop like shishito
Peppers, bell peppers, and then we have a bunch of head, lettuce
and herbs that will be doing from seed.
I love it, I feel like Kevin your own herb garden alone is
worth its weight in gold because it just makes all of your food
taste so much better. Yeah, totally.
And I mean, you get such a high antioxidant capacity with herbs
and Seasonings and spices. And I generally, I like to say
that my recipes are all very Flavor balanced and we try not
to get in a niche of you know one culinary pocket if you will.
So you know we kind of work Global and our flavor profiles.
But generally speaking when you're looking at recipes that
people write in the state's you kind of want to Triple down on
all herb seasonings and spices as if they would you know in
India or another country where they're just getting much more
potent nutrient density because you know, they're throwing like
handfuls of turmeric in and we're like quarter teaspoon kind
of thing. My recipes.
I always will be using, like, at least a tablespoon trying to get
some therapeutic medicinal level when we're starting to work with
herbs, seasonings and spices. No, I agree.
When it comes to Herb seasoning spices vegetation of any kind,
you're probably getting a lot of pushback from the hardcore
carnivore Community. I would imagine that views.
All vegetation is, you know, phytochemicals, what do you say
when people start bringing that up?
Yeah, it's funny. I think I had this really
socially awkward moment with Shaun Baker.
I at paleo FX, I think it was like five years ago now goodness
and there was like a I forget what kind of meat cut it was,
maybe it was like a big fillet that they had cut into
tenderloins and there was like a little, you know, peace and I
said, oh, there's parsley on your plate.
Try to like pull it off. He's like, okay you weirdo.
But yeah it's funny. I always get into this, I guess
conversation because I'm kind of known as a hybrid model if you
will. I guess in my perspective I'm
very meat-centric and like I said, A strong passion for a
snout to tail and that's why we're rendering lard.
And a huge proponent of bone broth.
I'm talking nauseam about bone broth and its benefits, but I
also believe very strongly that the human body does and is made
to consume vegetation. I think that we want to be
mindful of elements of potential intolerance which we would
consider things like leaky gut and this could be leaky gut from
use of NSAIDs. So any of those
anti-inflammatories like Aleve, Advil naproxen those are big
risk factors. We can also see leaky gut from
chronic dysbiosis or sibo or yeast overgrowth like candida in
the body. We can also see leaky gut as
just an autoimmune response and the world of inflammatory bowel.
And all of these individuals, we want to be much more Vigilant
about things like lectin and anti-nutrients because the
epithelial tissue the lining of their gut is Often ulcerated
it's much more inflamed and it's much more vulnerable.
If you will to some of the anti-nutrients and especially
the inflammatory ones like gliadin and glutenin, and
lectins that we think of in our grains and in our beans.
But with that being said, if we are focusing on proactively
nourishing our gut with things like bone broth and collagen
peptides and we have healed our gut or our gut is not in a
state. State of leaky gut, there is a
huge mirror. Add of benefits that we see from
consumption of plants. And what I like to argue is
whether we identify it in a Petri dish or in its biochemical
structure as a what people like to call quote, unquote, plant
toxin, like Paul saladino will call them plant toxins often.
You know, I always look at what happens.
Endogenously in the human body, not in a Petri dish.
What happens when I consume this food?
How does that influence my antioxidant quality in my blood?
How does that influence? The nutrient composition of my
body? And we've seen time and time
again, if we're talking about for instance, sulforaphane,
which is the unique antioxidant that we see in cruciferous
vegetable specially in broccoli, sulforaphane has been shown a
very clearly in clinical research to enhance and increase
and endogenous meaning made by the body glutathione levels.
So whether that's a status of hormesis right.
Whether that quote unquote, plant toxin, stresses the human
body to make more glutathione, which glutathione is the master
antioxidant, in the body, the highest, the top dog, you know,
if you will with vitamin C being like the little kid Sister,
anything that enhances glutathione levels is going to
be of benefit because we see it inversely correlated with
all-cause mortality. We saw for instance, in pan.
MX season, those that had low glutathione levels to have much
more severe infection rate, much more of that cytokine storm,
because you need the antioxidant to lower.
The oxidative stress. We saw better oxygenation and
respiratory function in individuals that had optimized
glutathione. And we were even seeing in some
clinics glutathione as an IV drip.
And to be used as a nebulizer, that was one of the things that
I was working with my patients that as a preset before they
would go to the Hospital. If they were getting really
severe and their pulse ox is dropping, we would nebulize
glutathione. And so that's my take is right.
If something whether you want to call it plant toxin or you want
to call it a superfood, if it enhances, your body's ability to
make an antioxidant. Just like if you want to call a
weight, a stressor that tears, your muscle and is harmful, or
build, your muscle because of the process of repair that's
kind of how I look at it. What I'm saying?
Hormesis, if that makes sense. Yeah, makes total sense.
Are we seeing a lot of people that are doing a street corner
for diet? In glutathione.
I have done nutrient deficiency tests only on a couple because I
don't have many patients that are strict carnivores so it
would be interesting to see but, you know, usually want to look
at an intracellular level for a true more longer standing
assessment of glutathione, but you can test that gsh levels in
the bloodstream and it would be a really interesting analysis to
look at. But what we do know, is we've
done feeding studies double-blind, Placebo control
with sulforaphane and seen it. Enhanced Gotcha.
That makes sense. Yeah for me it's like I've never
been like the hardcore strict dogmatic carnivore in which any
vegetables just going to kill me.
I just don't need a ton of him. I do like them though.
I'm especially if you're growing them yourself, you know where
they're coming from. I do think there's a lot to be
said for, you know, avoiding vegetables that are
mass-produced and just spray with glyphosate non-stop.
Like you probably know for sure and zoom in there.
But if you're growing everything yourself like you're talking
about I mean that's going to be perfect case scenario.
I would think. Yeah.
Yep. No doubt.
And you know, we know that there's been a Official
properties of gardening as well. Because if you're working with
again, quality soil, you have compost, all of that, organic
matter. And then my psyllium that we
have access to, in the soil. We breathe that in and that
actually gets into our brain and serve as an antidepressant.
So, you know, we often see people that spend more time in
soil, to have that antidepressant effect or, you
know, you'll read things like gardening makes people happy,
and it's a reason to get outside to, which I think, is a Really
important thing. I think that, you know, ideally
I just did a podcast, a couple months back about how our retina
and cornea distance is actually changing because of all the
screen time, we're starting to see and, you know, we need
minimum 2 hours of natural daylight on a daily basis.
So I love also when people are exercising incorporating outdoor
exercise, but having something to tend to like you know, work
on your property or garden and such, I think, is a really good
practice and it's very Meditative as well.
Yeah, I totally agree. So, when it comes to gardening,
what's a good? Like, if somebody's got the
means to just grow a garden, what would be your like, go to
very entry level. You can't really mess this up.
Even if you try like, what would, what would you recommend?
People plant. I think starting with herbs is
great. I'm not a fan of I think doing
Planters and containers are a great place to start.
You want to be mindful of the material you're using.
So in our beds, you know, you want to use untreated wood.
If you're going to build Eggs from scratch and you could even
start with as long as you're not using like decorative clay pots.
You could use Terracotta clay pots it around your patio if
you're in an apartment for instance and I think starting
with herbs and deep nutrient dense leafy greens is a really
good way to start because when you're harvesting your leafy
greens you can just kind of pick from the outside and allow the
court to keep growing. So for instance, like with a
bunch of kale Etc, you don't want to pull the root system out
right away. You can kind of work off of
that. That and it'll keep giving and
you know, you can even hang some shade cloth if need be on your
patio or move from side to side, depending on what angle you are,
or what direction, or orientation, you are in your
space. But I think herbs and deep leafy
greens are definitely the way to go.
What I would say is I wouldn't do any of the my daughter right
now is in first grade and they're doing a hydroponic
experiment, which is pretty cool.
You know, for a science experiment, they have a fish
tank that they have. The classroom.
And so, you know, the fish feces is being used as fertilizer for
the plant matter, that's growing above the tank and and I think
that that's neat and novel, but generally speaking a much more
privy to recommending instead of like those vertical planters
that you might see online as kind of buzzworthy or non-toxic
hydroponic growing those are very sterile.
You know, you're not growing them in organic matter.
And so I really see the importance of just like we know
the impact of the Grow biome on human health, the soil and
having the viable microsomes. And again, my psyllium culture
and such that, that really exchanges with the roots of the
plant, just like we see our probiotics and our gut actually
aiding in not just enhancing nutrient absorption from our
foods, but also even manufacturing probiotics
manufacture nutrients for our body and we see the same in the
soil. So I'm a big proponent of, you
know, finding a Good quality compost to blend with a quality
soil. I can put a couple different
ones down for listeners, I like Geo Growers, but that's a Texas
company but ladybug is one that's nationally available.
And I think that starting in soil is good because then you're
also putting your hands in it too.
And kind of getting dirty is there like I've heard like my
folks have a garden and they've always just tilled the ground
and broke everything up, but compounds Down horse manure,
things of that nature. But I've heard there's an
argument that ceiling on the ground.
Is not good? Yes, yes, because you're
disrupting. So it's interesting.
My property has fossils from 150 million years ago, that come up
when we've French, terry has, and so they're like these little
mollusk shells. And at first, when we bought in
December of twenty twenty, I looked at one of the guys, I was
Consulting with on the Orchard and I was like, why do is this?
Just like mineral-rich they just like dump this matter of these
shells like where to get these shells from.
He's like a girlfriend from when the ocean was over your
property. Oh my God.
Okay cool. And so I mean that's just Wyatt
that's just wild itself to think that, you know, in West Central
Texas. You know this is undisturbed
land from literally when the ocean was above it.
And so this idea of no tilt till is thought of as a biome
disruptor if you will. And so it's just to mechanically
aggressive. And the idea is that At the
plant roots, get lazy. They don't have to look in the
soil enough to dig that have to break up themselves and so that
can create a less robust plant. Hmm.
Got you, got you so fab Gant like I live in the Ozark
Mountains? Where it's like, two rocks, 21
dirt here. It's just rocks everywhere.
Yes, I'm probably just going to need to bring in a lot of good
quality soil and kind of build up and garden beds, opposed to
trying to like till down and breaks oil.
Yeah. So that's what we're doing and
it needs because we are like growing on Rock so what does it
were doing? These beds and that's, we're
doing 20 inches and 24 inches. Deep, depending on, you know,
what kind of root structure they need, but then we will keep that
soil. And when we Harvest, even if we
are, so for harvesting a carrot, organ, obviously, pull it of its
entity out because you're eating the root of that product.
But even like I was saying with the leafy greens, even lettuce,
heads Tomatoes, tomatoes, have robust root systems, they can
grow, you know, four feet, high, and couple feet wide.
You actually want to break down. Down that route and then kind of
return that back into the soil and that breakdown of that.
Organic matter will exchange some of the nutrients that it up
took to help to balance things out better.
And you don't want to disrupt like a never dig back into the
bottom of your bed. You kind of want to like Bend
off from the top and then break that down with a machete, or a
knife and then return that back to the topsoil kind of folded
over and plant where you're planted next cash and it makes
total sense. Yeah, I've got my on my list.
One thing that you've probably already discovered now,
definitely already discovered living on land.
Is that The To Do List is never done, like, there's always
something to do. So, now I've got an even bigger
to do this with regard to American citizens.
Here, it'll be fun and it'll be fun thing to do as a family.
I mean, Stella loves going out there and she gets so stoked.
And I mean, when kids are a part of the process, it's just their
way more willing to participate for sure because they get
excited about watching, something grow and come to life
and it's quite cool. I mean, it's Science.
It's so many different kind of subjects can be mastered in that
real-life experience of watching, plants, grow, and
being a part of the process. And they're going to enjoy the
taste more to. Yeah, totally agree.
You mentioned going to have 20 chickens?
Are you doing? Predominantly egg, chickens?
Are you doing meat chickens to? Yeah, just laying just laying
chickens. Yes, but you know me birds like
laying chickens, you can, you wouldn't want to eat the meat
because often it's just a totally different texture and
such but you can Is laying hens in bone broth.
So you know, when they pass if the foxes and coyotes, leave the
said Karkat, you know what I mean?
I know we'll lose a couple from Sly predators and that'll be a
learning curve of itself and one of my friends out here, she said
she well yeah, you got to have a machete on the outside of your
Coop because sometimes the rat snakes get in and they'll eat a
chicken and then they can't get out.
So you just got to slice them in half.
No, no, it sounds Like fun. At one point, they had like a
thousand chickens. So like we had, we had rat
snakes in there. We had raccoons in there.
We had everything your chickens like you gotta, you gotta be on
the lookout for sure. Yeah.
But I mean if they'd just die of heat exhaustion or whatnot, you
can definitely use those use the carcass for sure in broth.
Totally what we did you go for the layers?
I have not purchased yet, so I'm still in that research and
that's going to happen in March. So, we're facing it.
So the garden gets put in this following week.
We get the soil deliver them from Day and you know we're
talking September and then we don't move in until January so I
didn't want the birds until we're living there.
And then in March is when we'll get the birds and then get them
through the fries. So we don't get have a little
baby chicks in the freeze. And then, then we go on to the
orchard planning. Nice, nice.
We had wait a little bit everything, but we had a lot of
air con has and they like green eggs.
So it's like you have green eggs.
Yeah. They're on the list.
Yes. Nice.
And then those funky ones, I can think of off the top of my
head's now, but with the big kind of a We're all looking for
what they're called in the big. Yeah, there's on their feet
Australorp. So I think was one of the ones
with feathers on it that was mostly mom saying she had all
these rare breeds and they loved it.
It was just crazy. Is it like so Keys?
Yeah. So cute because like they covers
their eyes, they don't have any clue what they're going half the
time so just like run around and hit things can't wait, it's
pretty funny. Are you documenting all this
like are you putting this on YouTube and stuff?
Like the whole we're gonna. Yeah.
We're gonna I mean so the funny thing is real time this is I'm
also opening the market and then Becky just had her baby on
Saturday. So you know but Byron her
husband's my videographer and so once he's off paternity, then
we'll start doing some of that. So hopefully, he'll catch some
footage of some of the last, like seating of the gardens and
I'll do some stuff with Becky's on maternity, through the end of
the year of kind of catching people up to speed of what we're
doing in the Miller, family Orchard.
I love it. I love it.
Like, I look forward to watching it fall along there.
For sure. I love the switch, the
conversation. And kind of dive into hormones,
female hormones, specifically actually referenced you on a
podcast that I recorded last week because people were talking
about, I'm not sure what we get started.
But we're talking about birth control and the podcast that
you'd published. I don't know how many years ago
now about, you know, using the Daisy and natural Family, Family
Planning, that's what Chris and I started doing or eyes were
just opened. So I've been a big advocate for
that, but I've had several guests on recently really diving
into female hormones, around menopause, and there seems to be
Pretty prominent train of thought, right now that the
optimal way to, you know, to do with hormones is to go, the
bioidentical route and take exams and foremost, you have a
stance on that. I mean, this is obviously very
dependent upon the individual, but right, that seems to be a
very prominent ideal ideology right now.
Yes. So, you know, once we know that
the individual is nourishing themselves and that they are
best managing their HPA Access. Those are the two areas that I
would look at. As of course, absolute
foundational elements to hormone management.
So nourishment, meaning that for most women, the big focus is
getting ample protein and constantly harping especially
perimenopausal, but really, all aged women to really ensure that
they're getting ample protein intake and then I really focus
on fat as a secondary for most women and then managing and
titrating their carbs to their metabolic flexibility.
And what works? That individual depending on
their exercise. And if we want to get them into
Ketone production, which most of the time we do and then within
that also making sure that they are covering their bases for
micronutrients. So if they were on birth control
were often going to see clinical B vitamin deficiency.
So, we'll probably on top of a quality multivitamin, whether
it's my prenatal, which is my multi Avail mama, or whether
it's just my foundational. Hi, which is my multi defense.
I'll often layer in a B-Complex with methylated B12, and all of,
by the biological, easy to absorb forms of B vitamins.
And then we look at antioxidants as well because oxygen, there's
a lot of oxidative stress that can occur with birth control use
as well. And so those are kind of the
areas on the nutrients that I hone in on and I would say,
within fats, I emphasize a good amount of Omega-3s for hormone
recovery and rebalancing. So that EPA DHA of the omega-3
family, making sure they're getting at least two grams a day
and consuming wild caught fish and shellfish.
Three times a week is a big goal and then I look at the stress
access. So is this individual sleeping
through the night, are they waking up with cortisol?
Surges or hypoglycemic blood sugar, crashes?
Or are they dealing with body temperature?
Fluctuations? In the middle of the night like
hot flashes. We look at whether They are
stressed and wired or stressed and tired and how they
experience stress. Or they wiry and hyper-vigilant.
And in this over-processing anticipatory stress mode of,
kind of excessive epinephrine, or cortisol, or are we looking
at this stressed and tired where they're running on empty,
they're overwhelmed with everything and often.
In that sense we might see adrenal insufficiency and I like
to look at DHEA which is made by the adrenals as a big player in
sexual hormone balance. So, our adrenals have a cortex
and the medulla they make in the cortex cortisol, DHEA and
aldosterone aldosterone plays a role with sodium retention and
blood pressure control cortisol is that primary stress hormone
which AIDS in our waking and sleeping patterns our circadian
rhythm as well as inflammation regulation in the body.
You know too little and too much can both be bad.
And then the DHEA also made by the adrenals.
It can play a role Role in stress resilience and tolerance
but it's also a prohormone. So DHEA itself plays a role with
metabolic health because it can Aid in lean body mass and it can
Aid in muscle formation, it is a precursor to both testosterone
and estrogen. So if DHEA levels are too high
will often see that in the sense of PCOS?
Polycystic ovarian syndrome, or someone who's going androgenic?
Their adrenals are just just totally Rock.
It's too high of a stress for that individual, someone with
too low of DHEA doesn't have that that precursor building
block to produce that testosterone and or estrogen.
And so, they'll likely have more suppressed hormone whereas
someone with excess DHEA might have estrogen dominance or might
be what's called androgenic meaning, excessive testosterone
in a female. So I really like to look at all
of that and manage the HPA axis because As you can see, the
adrenals have such an influence on sex hormone because also, if
that cortisol is up then what happens is the pituitary in the
brain. So when I say HPA axis, that's
hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal. So your hypothalamus and
pituitary in the brain and then your little to adrenals that sit
above your kidneys, when cortisol levels are in an excess
level and the bodies wired in this sympathetic fight or
flight, nervous system the pituitary instead.
Focusing on producing things like thyroid, stimulating
hormone, or TSH to support thyroid hormone production,
instead of it making FSH follicular stimulating hormone
or LH your luteinizing hormone. Those are two of course, sexual
hormones that in women regulate ovulation and the whole
menstrual cycle. What happens is when the HPA
axis is in sympathetic fight or flight mode, is it suppresses
production of those Regulators if sex hormone and metabolic
hormone and it shuts all of its energy and to stimulate dating
the adrenals. So if we don't know what's going
on there, I don't want to add more lighter fluid to the fire
and throw hormone at that individual, until I see all
things at a managed or low. So if someone's clinically low,
then absolutely, I'd be quicker to advocate for biological
hormone because we actually want to put them on DHEA and then
monitor that in 90 days, and maybe we'll start with 25 to 50
milligrams in a woman. And then we might just want to
give them DHEA is a level one tear and then see how that
metabolizes into other hormone and then did that bring the
estradiol levels back online because maybe they were super
suppressed, and the woman was in ovulatory and not ovulating and
maybe even amenorrhea, not menstruating and then we would
see from there. Okay.
Now do we want to bring in a biological or bioidentical
hormone blend of an estradiol estriol, which would be like an
80/20 blend of that protective form of estrogen with that more
active form. A Scent or did the estrogen
levels. Regulate, we just need that
progesterone to come up and then we might work with a
bioidentical progesterone. And I would say generally
speaking, I recommend and prescribe a lot more
progesterone to individuals than estrogen.
Estrogen really comes in, in those hormones suppressed
individuals, who may have been under eating over-exercising and
their bodies, just doesn't have the give the bandwidth to make
hormone. And in those individuals that
were worried about Bone density. Vaginal atrophy fertility.
And we really just need to get that estrogen back online, but
I'm always tighter on monitoring that one with the work that I've
done with breast cancer, Etc. But I think bioidentical
hormones are absolutely necessary for some but anyone
that's using them should be monitoring at least three times
a year, if not quarterly, and I'm definitely not a fan of
pellets. I've Just Seen A lot going wrong
with hormone implants with Pellets just going totally like
super, super high, super super crashy low, very inconsistent.
I'm a much bigger fan of transdermal.
Topical use now that there's a, there's a demographic of, you
know, compounding Specialists that suggests that if you're
going through menopause you pretty much need to be taking
hormones exhausted, hormones in order to feel and function at a
high rate and reach your full potential.
I would. Imagine there's also a pretty
big demographic of women that are going through menopause that
do have everything down. Dan, their sleep, their, their
stress levels, their diets, and they aren't necessarily a kind
of like, you don't like having going through menopause, not a
death sentence, or her need an absolute need for Exotics
hormones. Correct.
Right. You know, again, it's really if
they have some of those Health Associated risks and we're
seeing clinically low values and I feel like they've been given
the opportunity or have been supplementing with the nutrients
of need. And so, another big one is my
own off the tall which is really a huge Of a derivative cousin of
the B vitamins, family, and myo-inositol is just a beautiful
nutrient that supports ovarian health.
So that's one that I have like a my woman's hormone bundle and
and I would start anyone that has any hormone either excess or
insufficiency on that, it's a great modulator and we've seen
really substantial research on like 70-plus percent Improvement
in ovulation with 4 grams a day, which is, you know, just four
thousand milligrams, the amount of a scoop of my relaxing You
late and that myo-inositol can be a really great way to gently
ease, without the need of that excess, because you can start to
nourish the ovaries. And if the ovaries weren't being
nourished from ages, you know, 47, 48, 49.
And then you bring in that nourishment, that'll at least at
Aid in the easement of that hormone reduction.
From not being as much of a dynamic Cliff if you will makes
total sense. So when it comes to you know
people trying to obtain a better composition, the trying to lose
body fat when women are going through menopause and they're
having these The hormone levels that are in a state of flux,
either high or low, what can they expect from a competitive
standpoint? Like, if they're doing
everything right there, tracking, the macros are doing
the training or they just can have a much harder time.
Losing that body fan. Well, we look at, of course we
know sarcopenia and muscle wasting is the number one driver
of aging and we know it well you know oxidative stress because
the other things but a big factor in aging and especially
in the hormone face and so The biggest thing, I think getting
women lifting weights using resistance training and eating
ample protein ideally by their mid even early 30s.
I mean, the earlier the better, right?
But if we're talking about preventing the impact of
stubborn, belly fat, and just feeling fluffy and flabby, if
you will, and not having that muscle density, and that
biologically active Mass to support that metabolic active
tissue. Ooh, so I think that that's the
number one factor and then I also am a big proponent of
giving detox support. Because, you know, at that age,
we're also accumulating a life time of environmental toxins and
many of these now are xenoestrogens and perform as an
estrogen compound or compete with other hormone in the body.
And so, we really want to watch out for those endocrine
disruptors, which can, of course, disrupt Hormonal
regulation in the body and I think that detox is a really
great kind of housekeeping. When we're at times prone
towards disrupted hormone values, make some sense that I
feel like just simply eating enough food in general.
Like, I feel like there's so many women that are fitting all
of these descriptions and they're not eating or not eating
enough. Protein writing enough fat, just
something, aren't any enough fuel?
And that's incredibly kind of bulk in and of itself.
Absolutely. And then they're getting that
hormone steel, you know, that's what I was kind of alluding to,
and I was saying, That under chronic stress, the pituitary
won't make the LH F sh + T. Sh right so you're suppressing
your metabolism and your hormone production, if your cortisol
levels are chronically elevated and if you're under eating,
you're setting yourself up for a survival mentality and a
survival experience in the body, which creates that shunting from
that HPA axis into that sympathetic space.
And so, you're really working against yourself without Being
that, that more liberated approach.
So whether it is, you know, like a refeed like you're doing with
your clients or whether it's taking Sunday, to not fast, or
whether it's doing a basal metabolic rate, assessment of
sorts like a body, a bioelectrical impedance analysis
and really seeing what your body requires for caloric intake.
It's often quite liberating when women understand the importance
of meeting minimal nutrient goals.
Especially if they're coming from a place of Of chronic over
restriction and it may come with a little bit of temporary weight
gain like as their body, kind of academics to that higher intake,
but then like the the benefits far far, outweigh any of the
temporary increases in way specially.
Once their body does acclimate to it.
They typically don't continue to Wayne gain weight for very long.
They often times and I mean and cognitive Clarity enhances very
quickly, you know, less of that, feeling of that kind of Sir gadd
brain or just overwhelm disorganized often will start to
feel a lot more. Grounded when we're eating
enough and I think that's kind of the immediate.
And so when that's usually the first one is like, okay, let's
not, let's not weigh more than once a week and let's just focus
on experientially. Oh, you're sleeping better.
That's a huge win. This is what's happening behind
the scenes in your metabolism when you're sleeping better,
that's a big deal and so helping people find the lifestyle I
guess wins if you will. Well they're going through that
metabolic shift is really important.
We talked about this you know on On my podcast, Robert about how
the bodies just to Thrifty and smart.
And we've seen that when anthropologists have studied
tribes in Africa, you know, and they're seeing how much output
and movement and, and you can call it exercise, but basically
movement that these individuals are getting, and you know, why,
they're not just totally catabolic.
Because their metabolism is slow down based on the amount of
intake they can put in their output.
And so this this idea of this over-exercising undereating,
your body's just going to say ok cool, just burn less.
We figured you out. Yeah.
Like people, I mean, I don't, there's just so many there's
this massive diet, culture phenomenon, that's been with us.
For generations of people just assume that the answer to
everything is just eat less. And it's often times the worst
thing people can do. Yep.
And then that opens a whole door of that power.
He's in calories out, which just also dumbs down food as a
two-dimensional substance if you will and that's when then you
lose that concept of, you know, are you even eating food?
In the first place. Correct, 100%.
Let's switch the conversation yet again and talk about some
some parenting around nutrition. So you can shinned, baby LED
weaning before we even started recording.
Can you define that? Yes.
So baby LED weaning is a introduction to solid foods that
is done to an a baby often around the 6-month Mark but it
might be as late as the seventh or eighth month, usually. 67 is
the common time we watch for a couple different signs of
Readiness and babes. So babe, has to be able to, of
course, sit up and have good head control.
Babe, should no longer be doing the tongue thrust where they're
kind of kicking things out with their tongue.
They should have a pretty developed pincer grasp grasp,
which is the pinch, kind of between the index and thumb of,
which they can pick things up and good motor skills to be able
to bring food. Adds to their mouth.
The idea of baby LED weaning is that we're going to bypass the
world of purees. Now, there is some kind of
everything has a Venn diagram if you will.
So there are some schools of thought that will use some forms
of purees eventually maybe at like month eight or month nine.
But in the world of baby LED weaning, that puree would be
placed on a spoon for the baby to pick up at will and put in
their own mouth. And so for instance, if you were
trying to get like liver Into baby and maybe you want to do
like a pate, you know, that be kind of like a puree, but
obviously, so different in the world of what we're thinking of
when we're thinking of standard baby foods, which the issue is
with, with most of the time, you go to the doctor and the doctor
says, okay, your baby is ready for solids.
And the solid foods that are used in the states are, you
know, either rice or oatmeal cereal, we've seen, High
contamination, like ours. Nick Glyphosate with these Foods
especially if they're not certified organic.
And even in certified organic, we could still see Trace Amounts
of these and they're just going to be providing a naked carb a
little bit more props. If you're mixing breast milk
with said dried cereals could getting some actual nutrient
density, but all of those rice cereals or you know grain-based
cereals are going to be fortified and those are
synthetically enriched and so when we're doing that we're
right away getting you know Unnatural form, a synthetic form
of folate into baby and that's why, you know, everyone's so
aware now of this MTHFR, this genetic snip that influences
methylation in the body because we've seen such a rise of ADHD
and autism, and we're starting to try to figure out, you know,
why are we having issues with this pathway in the brain?
And I think one part is that, you know, we're feeding
fortified Foods way too early and, I mean, great babies that
are getting formula are getting fortified synthetic.
Enriched folic acid. And you really want, that
methylated form of folate. So that's one, big concern and
then it's the naked car blood sugar dysregulation.
That's a huge concern and when you're using baby LED weaning,
you can actually start baby with fats.
That's what we did in my household and then go next to
proteins and then bring in carbohydrates, often always
paired with proteins and fats and that kind of gets into more
of my, like, naturally nourished scope.
Baby LED weaning. You know, most of it is just the
idea of letting baby on their own autonomy.
Pick up and feed themselves and we see good studies on that
supporting. Of course, autonomy Independence
satiety. And then when you're using it,
in my scope and and getting more fats and proteins and we're
going to see of course, better priming for metabolic health and
blood sugar metabolism as well as cognition.
I mean, brain development, really, it's such a shame Robert
when we look at the RDA for toddlers.
It's recommended And generally 13 grams of protein for
toddlers. A day, which is just I mean my
daughter at Age 2 is consuming 45 to 60 grams of protein a day.
So I mean I just think it's pretty remarkable.
Yeah it is kind of wildlife. We were trying to find the
stance on what nutrition in breast milk is and it's kind of
you know hard to tell for certain less you actually go and
get it tested because I would assume the nutritional profile
of crystals breast. Milk is far different than
someone's eating the standard American diet but like we Math.
And it was like, based off of what rigel is supposedly eating
throughout a day. Based off his feeding frequency,
he's getting about 1 gram of protein per pound of mass, you
know, from from the breast milk roughly.
Yeah. Yeah.
When he starts eating solid food, that's going to Skyrocket.
So whooping far more than thirteen or fourteen grams a
day. Yeah and I mean it's again so
sad because babies in utero are actually making ketones, right?
And so every baby even actually I mean I don't know to what
level of uncontrolled, gestational diabetes may be a
Baby wouldn't be. But generally speaking, you
know, even a mom that isn't eating and Kido babies are using
ketones as fuel in utero, and then a breastfed baby is making
ketones and then we just robbed humans of that, hybrid ability
of using both fat and glucose as fuel.
And just make them convert right away with with those solids.
If we're using cereals right away to just exclusively using
glucose has fuel. And so, I think, when I again,
when I look at ancestral patterns, Eating just, as I
believe that humans work really well as omnivores.
I also just as equally, see the importance of keeping humans.
In this hybrid ability to have access of ketones as fuel.
Yeah. 1000%. On that note, you know, most
like human our kids especially that are growing.
They have a much higher metabolic rate, you know, at
rest, you know, given given a lot of situations are but I
mean, they're going to be burning a lot, more more,
readily than most of us that are sitting in an office all day
long. They're going to have a higher
tolerance for carbohydrate consumption, generally speaking,
and for that reason, it makes total sense in my mind where
they would be able to tolerate more fruits, more vegetables.
Sure more, things of that nature than a lot of the sedentary
general population would. Now on that note, is there, do
you think there's any adverse long-term effects that would
come from having a child grow pretty well, following a
standard ketogenic diet as opposed to more of a mix that
even I mean I would assume they would still be able to Be
producing a pretty good degree of ketones, even if their total
carbohydrate intake was less than 100 grams a day, based off
of their activity and their expenditure, but no doubt find
any adverse effects. If a adolescent was to be
following a ketogenic diet from the get-go and continue on.
Well, I mean in the neurological conditions population of
children, obviously epilepsy and when we think of seizure
control, that's when we go into, of course the kind of more
Clinical keto approach, where it's that, that three or four to
one ratio in that world, you know, when we're not even
allowing protein, we're really suppressing protein to get fat
up at that ratio. I think that long-term effects
cost of benefit, obviously for neurological Health, outweigh,
the impact to maybe the comprehensive nutrient density,
but if we're using more of an approach of Quito of being fat
dominant, but also getting a good amount of A protein and not
suppressing protein intake. I think that that can absolutely
be sustained. So my daughter when we worked
with baby LED weaning, she started with avocado and she
worked with avocado for a good 10 days.
If not two weeks until she was really rocking it and like
eating avocado because you know, at first they're like just
trying to get in their mouth and then they're like gum in it and
like spitting it out and figuring it out and it was just
a very we try to keep it super Low-stress we'd always play good
music. We were just kind of chill and
she'd hang out at the dinner table and just play with
avocado. And even prior to that, I would
allow her for like sensory. We worked with smells.
So like if I was slicing something, I would bring it to
her so that she could start to create some of that salivary
enzyme release. So, we did that like at month
for where, if I was cutting up carrots for something, I would
give her a whole care and she would just kind of gum it, you
know, in tooth it and I think that that's a really great way
to start to pray. Them for foods and Beyond the
avocado. Then she went secondary to
salmon. And then from there, she went to
Blueberry, I believe with her third food so that was her first
quote, unquote harb. If you will, obviously quite low
glycemic and the ratio of the amount of Barry that she was
having at that seven months, Mark was probably a tablespoon
kind of per meal type thing. And it really I would say until
that first year, Where did she start to bring her carbs even to
hit goodness, 45 50 grams. And that's when we were
incorporating, you know, roasted sweet potato and coconut oil and
you know, just continuing to kind of move into more of a
Paleo wish approach to eating. I think that carbs find children
everywhere they are especially when they get into the toddler
plus ages and are socializing or at some form of school or you
know, Camps or whatever it is friends, houses, Gatherings
carbs? Always find them.
And so that's not one that I prioritize as a nutrient-dense
goal, when I'm working with kiddos, like Toddlers and kids,
I do aim to get two to three colors in each meal and so
often, you know, two of those maybe like a red bell, pepper,
or green, roasted broccoli. And then they might do purple or
blue in the world of that blueberry or, you know, a
different shade of red and the resulting.
A raspberry but generally when I'm saying choosing three
colors, we try to aim for two of those coming from.
Veg one from a carb. Yeah, so totally.
Well, within the realm of them still following a low carb diets
nutrient-dense Foods. I mean, no, no.
Pop Tarts and Hot Pockets, right?
Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
I mean, it's wild and with my daughter at age, six.
So, like, I'll tell you what her lunch was today, just so you can
kind of get a snapshot of what things are looking like for her.
So for breakfast at these Is she weighs 45 pounds?
She's super strong athletic. Build step.
Pretty great abs, actually, when I saw her on the monkey bars
recently, but she will eat for breakfast like to pasture-raised
eggs, raw cheddar and bacon, and that's just with water and then
she'll probably like a half cup of some form of berries, and
then her lunch. She's really into kabobs these
days. So if we're doing like a
meatball All sometimes will be a lunch and that's a great way to
get organs into your kiddos. And so, you know, we might do
like a ancestral blend of grass-fed meats, and then add in
a quarter, pound of ground, heart and liver.
And that's a really great way than in a flavored meatball with
a bunch of herbs and seasonings that something.
She'll go for but today was in-house roasted turkey cubes
with cucumber. Slices bell.
Pepper slice and an olive and She like, we put these on these,
like, cool looking toothpicks, because she thinks it's kind of
a cool thing, a little bento box.
And then she had some wild salmon B in the other part of
her bento box. And then, the next container was
torn up pieces of dried mango and pistachio.
And then in the fourth section was, leftover, roasted broccoli.
That's kind of, like what her lunch looks like.
So she got protein. Yeah.
So she got protein from Um, she got two and a half ounces of
that, turkey one ounce of cheddar and then she got an
ounce and a half of the wild salmon.
So I mean just in that lunch, she's getting a solid, you know,
30 + grams of protein. So when she's in like a field
trip and she, you know, pops open her lunchbox, like the
other kids looking at her, like what are you eating?
Or they like jealous or they like, you know, trying to give
her a Go-Gurt. Like, how's that working?
I think it's a combination. She's pretty empowered and so
she'll it's funny. She was at a church camp over
the summer. And they got out of the swimming
pool and they were giving chocolate chip cookies to the
kids and Stella's like, oh, I don't think that that's
gluten-free. I can't have that.
And they went and got her a popsicle and she goes.
Well, I'm pretty sure that has food coloring in it.
So, I also can I like it? Because I feel like them and
Empower them like they're, I mean, they're all about it.
Yeah, I mean, it's cool. It's cool.
She's a little diva about it and she'll just be like, uh, and I
mean at age four she would start to see like, at the grocery.
Us restore characters, you know, because they're marketed to
kids. So they'll put the PAW Patrol or
the Frozen or the whatever on the gushers and the gummies and
the all the the crap. And you know, I would use the
time. We'd look at it, would flip over
the container and I'd reader the words and we would talk about
how, you know, these are not whole real foods.
There's a lot of words in here, and this is a really processed
food and characters, don't belong on your food, you know,
characters, you can draw, you can color character Book you
might even have a figurine but that's not food food.
Doesn't need characters to sell them that doesn't require to
nourish your body and so now, she'll like, see a character
should like Mom, did you see that?
That's not a food, right? I'm like, you're right well, I
think it's especially awesome. That you've got the land.
You can be doing the homesteading and she's going to
be right there mixed, like and it all because I think when you
do that like when you raise kids online and they're getting their
hands dirty and they're procuring their yeah.
Who like the depth of knowledge and appreciation that have for
it just becomes just a Exponentially amplifying to the
point where they just that's just their norm and they take
that on you know, into the later years of their life and that's
worth it's worth its weight in gold for sure.
Yeah and I mean I've even done programs back in the day in
Houston. I was in the Fifth Ward in a
pretty, I don't know pretty urban urban area and it was a
organization called recipe for Success.
So we would bring garden beds on to these Urban campuses and
teach the kids how to grow food. And then we would do this
exercise where we actually Like a Hot Pocket.
And we would have, this was like third and fourth graders and
we'd hand the chalk around. And I mean you could have a
class of 18 and all of them would write one ingredient of
the hot pocket on the board and it was just hilarious because it
took forever like you know, partially hydrogenated soybean
oil take a long time for a third grader to write.
Yeah. And and, you know, maltodextrine
and we'll and then what we would do is we would take a colored
piece of chalk and we would go around the classroom and say,
okay, What, what, what ingredients do?
You know what they look like? And then we would color the
other color, the ones that they don't know what they look like,
and then we would take a recipe to make pizza, right?
And so, yeah, you know, maybe not the most nourishing food,
but to really exemplify like, okay, this is like flour, water
yeast, Tomatoes, ground down or blended with olive oil and
herbs. And it was just really cool to
see, you know, kids, that were bringing talkies and and soda
and eaten. You know, process fast food
really Have those like strikes of aha moments of like oh yeah
like this isn't food and then watch them take that home in
their household and you know, really be open to eating fresh
things that they've grown. But also just that that deep
understanding of the impact of what we're putting in our
bodies. Yeah, I mean when you look at
like this, it's so sad. I've seen so many like
legitimately morbidly obese kids like less than 10 years old and
it's just sad. Like they're growing up not
knowing any of this stuff. I that's just kind of what What
their parents eat? They make it really easily
accessible to them. They don't moderate it at all.
They don't educate him at all and they just they're plagued
with these massive health issues, right out the gates.
And like, if you can just offset that by simply taking the time
to explain what the ingredient list is on the back of a box and
Empower them. Like, that's how we change the
next Generations. Healthspan right there.
Yeah, yep. And and right, I think education
and empowerment is so key and it's wild.
I mean, the toddler's RDA for carbohydrates is 150.
G, that's the minimum recommendation.
And I mean we're seeing so much of these carbs coming from
crystallized. Fructose still high fructose,
corn syrup. And so we're seeing kiddos not
only with diabetes. I mean it was just in the last
two decades that it used to be called type 2 diabetes used to
be called adult onset diabetes you know juvenile diabetes was
just type one. Only that was the only form and
so this is just in the last couple decades now that we've
had to Rebrand, if you will you know to quote Don't quote
normalize this excessive carbohydrate and processed
refined sugar consumption. And you know we're also seeing
kiddos and adolescents with fatty liver at Young ages and I
mean it's just wild. We emphasize the influence of
course of alcohol awareness and whatnot.
But I think what's really scary in today's culture when we look
at kind of trying to support Mass empowerment and mass
education is the The slippery slope of this kind of like all
foods fit and the movement of Health at every size and, you
know, I think of course there's always a line right?
That it's not appropriate to body.
Shame, anyone or of course to bully someone.
But I think that it's okay to talk about what Fitness looks
like. It's okay to talk about how you
best support your body's function.
What stresses your organs and I think it's just a such a
disservice in some of the the cultural shifts we're seeing now
or cultural norms of. I forget the the artist but
there was like something that came out of them.
So I'm so out of touch with pop culture.
But it's like Lizzie or Izzy or I don't know.
Someone's, yeah. Part on instacart, you know, or
whatever and it's just it's just total garbage and I'm like, why
is that this like, why are people ordering that cart?
Don't they see that? That doesn't create health.
I'm very confused with the the disconnect there and
unfortunately now it feels like there's that that kind of line
of like Aiming. And that's what's hard.
I think in the school systems is now empowerment education of
true Wellness. Yeah, it's sad because like, I
mean, this could become a whole talk on philosophy and Paul.
Yeah and everything. But like when you I'm totally on
board with wanting to be just open arms and like helping
people of all different backgrounds, all different
races, a lily everything. I bet that's important but the
this massive push for this all inclusivity Factor comes at the
cost in certain industries, especially Really around like,
Food and Health to like there being no, no standards, no moral
code of ethics. No lines drawn.
And when you stand for nothing, then you fall for anything.
I think that's exactly what we're seeing happening and
unfolding across multiple different Industries right now.
Well, I love that phrase. Yeah, yeah.
I got actually in Austin kicked off of a panel essentially in
2019 because I forget it was a women's empowerment, you know,
panel and I was talking about how to empower yourself through
food. Good.
And I said something to the effect on the microphone about
how know, you know, Oreos just should not be consumed.
Like like I'm sorry. Like there's no amount of Oreo
that is a healthy amount of Oreo of like, if you want chocolate,
you can eat an 80% chocolate bar.
If you want, you know what I mean?
Like, there's a way to satiate cravings and to even have an
Indulgence, I think is appropriate.
But at what level are we dumbing ourselves?
Down to accept eating processed. Again, I apologize for the third
time saying, shit, but but now forth.
You know what level are we doing ourselves down to consume
chemical shitstorms and call them Foods at what services
that? And I just think, unfortunately,
the the connection of, as we know, big egg and processed
food, industry and Pharma is very tightly intertwined.
And so, there's a lot of dollars behind keeping Well in the dark
and disempowerment because you know you can save your mucus
that you could pay her Farmers now or your ranchers and eat
whole real foods or you're paying your doctors and your
insurance and your, you know, your co-pays and you're, you
know, refills at your prescriptions later, that's just
kind of how that goes. Yeah, 1000% I feel like, you
know, I don't know the, I don't think that the solution to the
problem is to ban or outlaw that like I'm very much so pro-choice
and is having the option to consume whatever we Choose to
consume. Like, if, if you were to try to
have a Prohibition of Oreos, it's not going to go over too
well, right? Don't kid yourself into thinking
that it's a health food or that it's okay.
Like just I mean nobody is going to argue.
That alcohol is a health food. Now, right, have the maturity
and responsibility to consume a small amount and recognize you
know what the the cost benefit is there then by all means, go
for it. But don't don't lie to yourself
into thinking that, you know, Oreos, these processed foods are
going to be like any form of Food.
Yes. Yes, right.
No doubt, Wiley. I know you've got your lard
rendering right now, so I don't want to keep you too long here.
But where do people go to find out more about you and dive
deeper into your world goodness. So, you can hang out with me on
social, like, Instagram and Facebook under Ali Miller Rd so
it's just Alim IL lerrrd. And I'm sure that's where I'll
start to do a little bit more stories and stuff.
I just got out of Instagram censorship jail.
So Now, you can tag me and find me and all the things.
Yes, this is a very big celebration there.
And then my website is Ali, Miller are d.com.
And on there is where I have my naturally nourished, supplement
line. I have protocols.
So things anything from estrogen dominance to supporting your
thyroid to an immune protocol, to seasonal allergies and so
forth. Bone broth, fasting, protocols
and all sorts of stuff there and that's in my learn Tab.
And And I still have on naturally nourished our d.com,
that's where my podcast lives and the podcast and YouTube are
called naturally nourished. And then, you know, you can find
the YouTube channel on YouTube. And the podcast is anywhere.
You can listen to a podcast. So, you know, Google Play and
Apple, iTunes and all of all the spots.
Awesome. I would definitely count to all
of those. Make it easy for people to find
you. You are a wealth of knowledge.
Always Point all my clients that have questions on hormones to
you. Because you are the bomb,
diggity Fighting the good fight. So keep doing exactly what
you're doing. Thank you brother.
Happy to be on, always a fun time.
Talking with you chat soon. I'll be in Wimberley to check
out the market here before too long.
Well it sounds good. Take care.