1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,680 What is going on? Y'all, Robert Sykes, Keto, 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:03,440 savage.com. And today I've got special 3 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,360 guest, good friend and client Greg in the building. 4 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,920 We are actually recording this at an Airbnb in Boston, MA. 5 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,760 We just wrapped up my pro debut show at the Monster Mash 6 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:18,600 competition and we're going to dive into that. 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:20,640 We're also going to talk about reverse dieting and the 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,880 significance of that. Want to talk about some things 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,160 we've got in the pipeline that are super exciting. 10 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:30,800 As I was recording this, I realized how tired and hopefully 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,240 not in drive I may have sounded. I'm just exhausted. 12 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,520 Y'all, I mean we've been going on stop. 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,240 We had the show today and I'm worn out and ready to go to 14 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:40,160 sleep, but hopefully y'all got something great out of it. 15 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:43,560 So without further delay, sit back, relax and enjoy the 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:46,200 podcast conversation with my good friend Greg. 17 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,400 We are live. How you doing, Greg? 18 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:02,000 I'm doing well, good. We got a little podcast action 19 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:03,920 going. On post show. 20 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:07,080 We actually filmed quite a bit of content, so it feels like 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,960 we're just on A roll right now. We did a a talking Head of You, 22 00:01:10,960 --> 00:01:16,080 Crystal Chip myself, a screen capture that went over my macros 23 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,120 and now we're doing a podcast because I'm short on podcast and 24 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,000 I'm travelling and I need a podcast for next Friday. 25 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,400 So I wrangled you in, and here we are. 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,040 And we got all the gear right here, and we have all the gear 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,000 right here. And I lugged all this gear all 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,280 over the airport, so I felt like I had to record a podcast. 29 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,600 You know, it wouldn't have been right to not use it after 30 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,320 lugging it everywhere. So for the sake of being 31 00:01:41,320 --> 00:01:43,880 repetitive and a little redundant for the content we've 32 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:47,840 already talked about, but who may not be hearing it if they're 33 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,680 just listening to the podcast, let's do a little recap on the 34 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,000 show. Give me some of your thoughts 35 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,760 and then we'll just kind of go into a friendly banter about 36 00:01:58,760 --> 00:01:59,920 whatever else we want to talk about. 37 00:01:59,960 --> 00:02:02,680 Let's go. So today was the Monster Mash 38 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,680 competition. I stepped on stage and competed 39 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,520 at about 10:30. It is now 754 and this was my 40 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:14,960 pro debut show. How'd you think about it all, 41 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,360 man? I gotta sit. 42 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,320 First off, congratulations. Thank you. 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:21,480 You looked absolutely stellar. Appreciate it. 44 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,080 You were definitely the leanest man, if if not the leanest man 45 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,160 alive. The leanest man on the stage. 46 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,840 In my opinion, conditioning was dialed in vascularity. 47 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,320 It is kind of hard to tell those older competitors though, man, 48 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,800 they get that super thin skin, so they got the vascularity. 49 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,680 But like, like when you look at them past the thinness of the 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,920 skin, if like, I had more definition for sure, yeah. 51 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:45,880 Totally agree. Yep. 52 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Striations in areas where nobody else really had them, so you had 53 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,400 the conditioning dialed in. I think they were kind of on the 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:03:00,840 hunt for guys of size, yeah. And just overall bulk, which is 55 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:05,960 somewhat unfortunate because in my opinion they may not have 56 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,680 been as well balanced from head to toe, yeah. 57 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,400 But you had the balance, you had the symmetry, the balance, the 58 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,960 upper body, lower body, it all kind of meshed very well. 59 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:21,120 Yeah, the I definitely feel like I was the most conditioned guy 60 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:22,600 on stage. I feel like I was more 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:26,200 conditioned than I was at any point up to this date. 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:30,520 I mean this was I competed at 154, which is a pound and a half 63 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,320 lighter than what I was at the Washington show that I went pro 64 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:38,360 at 3 weeks ago. You and I trained at the gym the 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,120 day prior, and I mean I was seeing veins I had never seen 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,080 before. That was crazy. 67 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,400 Yeah, your your vascularity at the gym would have been, what, 68 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,840 Saturday morning? Yeah, Saturday morning. 69 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,640 But then when I woke up this morning, yesterday morning and 70 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,600 this morning, it was just like, yeah, I've never seen that thing 71 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:57,640 before. So I feel confident that I am 72 00:03:57,640 --> 00:03:59,280 leaner than I've ever been, for sure. 73 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,720 I'm definitely leaner than I've ever been. 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,760 I I can confidently say that I feel like I've looked better 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,240 conditionally speaking than I did at the prior show. 76 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,360 I do think my color at this show screwed with me a little bit 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 because I think it was too dark. I would agree. 78 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,200 Yeah. Did you say they put 3 total 79 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,920 coats of spray on you? 2 the night before 1 the day of 80 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:23,640 yeah, they were originally going to put one coat on the night 81 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,240 before, 1 coat on the morning of. 82 00:04:25,280 --> 00:04:28,120 But they wound up doing 2 coats the night before and then an 83 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,840 additional coat this morning. And I think I was too dark for 84 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:34,760 the way the stage lights were set up because it was like a 85 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,960 temporary stage or temporary lights they brought in. 86 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,680 And I had this happen in 2017 where I got so dark using a 87 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,520 different tanning product that it just washed out some of my 88 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,560 definition, which is frustrating because I don't get to see 89 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,200 myself on stage. I just get a look at the 90 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:51,880 professional photos after the fact. 91 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:56,600 So it may look like I brought a better package at the Washington 92 00:04:56,600 --> 00:05:00,240 show than I did to this show. But just looking at myself 93 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,400 objectively in the mirror and like, you know, when I wake up 94 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,600 and see myself, I feel like I was actually better condition 95 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:06,680 for this show. Yeah. 96 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,240 Totally agree. So and then what if you were? 97 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:14,960 If you compare your weight that you hit the stage today against 98 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:20,080 your last prep, So like the last time you prepped your body 99 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:21,080 weight. Yeah. 100 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,480 Or what to this morning or what, 150, 4154 this morning. 101 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:26,960 The last time I prepped it was in 2020. 102 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,800 Yep. And I got down to 157 OK in 103 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,120 2020. But you didn't have quite the 104 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,440 leanness, right? Yeah, this is definitely, it's 105 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:37,800 ever been 100%. So I feel confident about that. 106 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,440 I feel good about that. But I definitely feel like 107 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,760 you're right. And that they were looking for 108 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:45,160 size because the two guys that won were definitely not as 109 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:49,160 conditioned as me, but they were significantly bigger than me. 110 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,640 I mean, like, they were huge, yeah. 111 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,920 They, they were, they were £40 plus maybe, yeah. 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,800 The guy. That one was 192 pounds. 113 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:58,680 OK. So, yeah, 40 pounds, yeah. 114 00:05:59,280 --> 00:06:02,200 And when you they brought you guys out on stage to start the 115 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,880 comparisons. You could kind of tell that they 116 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,440 had those guys pegged from the get go because they were the way 117 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,520 they were moving those guys around and kind of centering 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,120 them in the lighting or lack of because it was, it was a little 119 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,880 bit of poor lighting. I would definitely agree with 120 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,840 that. They were moving them around. 121 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:19,720 They got kind of the majority of the attention. 122 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,240 They definitely didn't. They were looking for size for 123 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,920 sure, which again, I mean like it's a subjective sport. 124 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:28,040 Sometimes they air on the side of size, sometimes conditioning. 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,160 But this panel of judges seem to prioritize the size. 126 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,840 And they look great, like they had great shape. 127 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,120 I mean, like that one guy's biceps were astronomical and 128 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,560 that one guy's legs were insane. I mean, they definitely outsize 129 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,960 me, like, there's no doubt about that. 130 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:49,480 But I can't control that. And I think I was definitely 131 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,480 leaner than anybody else on stage. 132 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,520 Well, maybe that kind of goes with that type of territory as 133 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,640 well, because because the size of the class was 7. 134 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:03,440 Total competitors and I got 5th. We just started off the podcast. 135 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,720 I got fifth out of seven on this pro debut. 136 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,520 But they had a pretty wide variety of age, height and 137 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:16,440 weight they did. So you know, that's kind of the 138 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,280 mishmash of competitors all against one another versus 139 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,560 having, you know, smaller classes or same size classes 140 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,680 even of more comparable competitors against one another. 141 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,360 Yeah, I kind of like that it was a one and done like made the 142 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:34,000 best man win kind of deal. But at the same time, you know, 143 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480 I'm always more competitive amongst the class of people that 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,800 are similar weight than me because then it's everybody's 145 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,120 looking for conditioning because we're all the same weight 146 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,920 roughly. So yeah, I mean when you've got 147 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,680 a guy lined up of seven guys and there's no weight classes like 148 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,440 it's all over the board. Yeah, for sure. 149 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:52,880 That was interesting. That was first time doing that 150 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,160 for me, which was, you know, got that experience now. 151 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,000 So yeah, that was good. How, how did the, how did the 152 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,920 variables that I had control over play out? 153 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,720 Like do you think there's anything I could have done 154 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,400 better than what I did? I. 155 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Don't think you left anything on the table, OK, that was in your 156 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,840 control. So as far as like your prep 157 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:18,000 goes, your offseason gains go, your training, your cardio, your 158 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:24,600 dialing in, your macros for peak week refeed, doing the bricks 159 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,800 the evening before and the morning of. 160 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,920 How do you feel? Because I don't think there's 161 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:32,440 anything that you could have changed. 162 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,600 Yeah, like I was. I was talking to Chip when we 163 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:37,600 were filming my little talking head clip before. 164 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:41,880 It's like I get in my head. So there's like things that I 165 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:43,679 think I could have done better that may have cost me. 166 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:45,680 Like, I feel like I should have pumped up a little bit longer 167 00:08:45,680 --> 00:08:49,520 before stepping on stage because I did continue to look better as 168 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:52,960 we were on stage longer. But I don't think that would 169 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,920 have really changed the placing at the end of the day. 170 00:08:57,040 --> 00:08:59,560 I just, I think I could have probably changed my attitude 171 00:08:59,560 --> 00:09:00,880 overall. And Chip brought this to my 172 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,680 attention. He's like you went in as a 173 00:09:03,680 --> 00:09:07,680 killer, you know, cold hard steel face and just ready to 174 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:10,320 rock with a mission. And you didn't really let your 175 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,120 personality come through as much. 176 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,160 Like you weren't really looking at the judges and smiling and 177 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:18,280 just being more, you know, approachable. 178 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,080 I guess because I was so hyper focused. 179 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:22,680 And I think I was so hyper focused because this was my 180 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:26,120 first pro show and I was competing against, you know, 181 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,960 professional athletes. And I wanted to just zero in on 182 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,040 my composure and conditioning because I knew that I wasn't 183 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,400 going to win on a size basis. And I could tell that they were 184 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:41,000 getting winded because their conditioning wasn't as good. 185 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,800 Like they were starting to, you know, sweat profusely. 186 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,320 They were starting to, you know, shake much more on stage with 187 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,800 the poses. So I wanted to just be stone 188 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,560 cold steel up there, you know, and not not deviate and just 189 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,960 nail the poses. And I think I did that, but it 190 00:09:57,960 --> 00:09:59,720 cost me the personality component. 191 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,640 So I think I probably could bring that to the table more. 192 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,680 True. True to, to an extent. 193 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:09,360 Because I think part of part of your straight face demeanor, 194 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:14,360 being on stage and holding your poses also came across as being 195 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,640 like you weren't there to screw around. 196 00:10:16,680 --> 00:10:18,640 Yeah. And your conditioning was on 197 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,920 point and you also had that sense of confidence regarding 198 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:23,800 your conditioning. Did I look confident up there? 199 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,640 You looked confident. I don't know if anybody would 200 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,960 have perceived you as maybe having a little bit of, I don't 201 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,840 wouldn't say cockiness, but more confidence. 202 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,560 Yeah, but I guess if you were to open up a little bit more, allow 203 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:41,320 some facial expressions in. You know, do that kind of thing. 204 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,280 That may help. I suppose it depends on the 205 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,680 judging panel, yeah, for sure. But on the flip side of that, 206 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:51,120 the way that you were able to hold your cool and composure and 207 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:55,360 hold your posing, flex everything solid, you had the 208 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,960 endurance. You probably had more endurance 209 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,160 than the other six guys combined because like you just mentioned, 210 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,440 and for anybody that didn't see it, Robert had, he was dialed 211 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:07,720 in. They would call the pose. 212 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,120 He would nail the pose. And he would stay 100%, fully 213 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,400 flexed for the duration of that pose, while all the other guys 214 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:19,680 standing on left and right of Robert were shaking, quivering, 215 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:23,720 sweating to the point where after a couple rounds of 216 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:28,680 symmetry posing, they were even having to wipe their face, wipe 217 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,360 their tan off between their pecs. 218 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:33,640 And they were dripping. Literally dripping. 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,360 And you were. It was almost comical because 220 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:41,120 you were like bone dry, like not a trip of running tan anywhere 221 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:42,640 on you. It's kind of funny, man. 222 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,200 Like a totally different panel of judges could have judges 223 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,600 totally differently and. That's part of the sport. 224 00:11:48,680 --> 00:11:51,640 Yeah, that is part of the sport. I mean, like if if the panel of 225 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:53,960 judges were like, look, we were going to make them work for it, 226 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,480 we're going to keep them up there longer. 227 00:11:55,680 --> 00:11:57,400 We're going to see whose condition, we're going to see 228 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,640 who's put in the work. With the posing, I feel like I 229 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,960 would have fared much better and you got a panel like today and 230 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,520 it's like, hey, we're going to prioritize the size. 231 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:08,280 And I just don't. I mean, I I don't have an extra 232 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,360 £40 on me and I don't want to make excuses for myself, like 233 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,600 what good does that do? Like I feel good about the 234 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:15,120 outcome. I mean, I'm totally at peace 235 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,960 with it, but I'm just nitpicking myself, OK? 236 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,440 What can I control? What can I improve upon for next 237 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,480 time? And I don't know, like I get in 238 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,440 my head. That's what I do. 239 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,920 That's that's a good point because like the way that you 240 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,160 had the endurance and you were able to hold your poses even as 241 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,480 the other guys returning to waiver. 242 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,960 I've been to shows where the announcer will actually dial 243 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,840 right in on that and they'll say you can see these guys are 244 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,920 working hard for it. You know, with a class this 245 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,800 tight and all these guys looking so close together, we're going 246 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,840 to make them work for it. And the one who comes out at the 247 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,400 end and is still able to hit the poses and nail the poses and has 248 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,880 the accuracy of just being just having the endurance and being 249 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:58,840 able to not waver and still flex, they're going to come out 250 00:12:58,840 --> 00:12:59,960 on top. They're going to get a little 251 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:01,760 bit more. They're going to get a little 252 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,600 more bonus point, yeah. And I don't think that played 253 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,240 into your favor as much as it could have today and I think. 254 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,880 It would have helped, definitely, yeah. 255 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:14,960 And I think that's what I expected coming into it. 256 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:20,680 So that's the mission and that I went into it with and the the 257 00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:24,240 plan that I had in mind. But that's just, I mean you're 258 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,240 not on stage for that long a time anyway. 259 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:30,000 So like you can't really totally change personality mid and I 260 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,800 guess you kind of I kind of did with the the pose down but like 261 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:36,320 that's just the mentality I had going into it. 262 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,320 So that was interesting how that played out. 263 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,000 So yeah first first pro debut experience, I'd say it's a 264 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,120 learning experience for sure I learned from it the judging 265 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,400 criteria or feedback rather afterwards was that they also 266 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,000 that I had the conditioning, the symmetry proportion that just 267 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,200 didn't have a size. So after this last show in 268 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,200 Worlds, I'm just gonna put on some more size and the name of 269 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,160 the game. I could always use more of that 270 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:02,880 keto. Gains. 271 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:06,160 Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now you've got Worlds in two 272 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,800 weeks. Worlds is in two weeks. 273 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:11,920 So next week I will be depleting down further. 274 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,360 I'll only have the one refeed meal, the Keto Genic Refeed 275 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:17,720 Pizza. My macros are going to be like 276 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,000 1600 calories that week. And then the week of Worlds, I'm 277 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:26,040 probably going to have the extra pound of lamb starting on Monday 278 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,120 instead of on Tuesday. So I have an additional day of 279 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,040 the extra lamb and then kind of refeed into the entire week, 280 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,760 Have the refeed pizza on Friday. And then depending on what time 281 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,440 I step on stage on Sunday, I'll either have the brick, the extra 282 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:44,000 brick on show day or the night before. 283 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,000 I think my body did not respond poorly to having it the night 284 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,640 before that I could tell. What do you think? 285 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,880 'Cause you had a brick, it was probably, what, like 7-8 o'clock 286 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:57,360 on Saturday night. Last night, Yeah, yeah, that was 287 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,960 probably like 9. Yeah, it was late it. 288 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Was it was later. And then you had another brick 289 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,000 the following morning, This morning stage, right. 290 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,520 Yeah, at about 9:00. Yeah 'cause you, but you still 291 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,040 looked Super Dell then this morning prior to the brick. 292 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,920 Yeah. So the brick, the second brick 293 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:16,960 helped fill you out and but I don't think like I think having 294 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,200 the additional brick last night as opposed to this morning was 295 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,480 probably a good call because having two bricks today was 296 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:25,520 stepping on stage that early probably wouldn't have been 297 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,120 optimal. That might have weighed a little 298 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,680 heavy on you. That would have been an extra 299 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,240 2000 calories. So Worlds just kind of depends 300 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,280 on when I step on stage. I think it's going to be a sun. 301 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,840 It's a Sunday show again. And then I'm in the very middle 302 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:38,680 of the lineup and I think it starts at 9:00. 303 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,360 So it's going to be kind of right down the border. 304 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Maybe I'll do a brick and a half, yeah. 305 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:45,200 And we probably are going to expect to see larger classes to 306 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,560 the point where they even have to break them up into. 307 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,320 Will it go by weight classes if there is enough competitors? 308 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Yeah, it'll be broken up. So yeah, I may do one before 309 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:55,960 that and then another one. Like if there's a battle for the 310 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 overall of a class that I'll probably do that and have 311 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,560 another break after that. OK, so couple variables still in 312 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,840 the works with Worlds, but I'm going to do a depletion week 313 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,920 next week, which is the one refeed meal. 314 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,600 That'll be a pretty significant drop in calories from this week 315 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:13,120 once it all averages out, and then we'll go into Worlds guns 316 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,520 blazing. Awesome. 317 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,080 I'm excited and you go into that. 318 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,360 One too, Yeah. What was it like for you just 319 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,360 simply being at one of these shows with me? 320 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,320 It was awesome. As opposed to because you and I 321 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,640 have worked together. You've been a client of mine for 322 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:31,080 how long now? Since was it 2020, 2020? 323 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,920 I did my first prep with you. Yeah. 324 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:38,120 Was for shows in 21 your first ketogenic prep, Yeah, And then. 325 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Wait, I think we officially met. Well, we started. 326 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,120 We actually we started working together before we met in 327 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,680 person. I met your person in Omaha later 328 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,880 on. Yeah, so I've been working with 329 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,080 you since I think, 2020. So we're going on 3-4 years. 330 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,000 It's crazy, man. Good night. 331 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,880 And and two preps. 2 seasons you get your pro card. 332 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,440 Got a pro card? Yeah, all with my Ketogenic Prep 333 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:00,520 protocol. Yep, Yep. 334 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,920 So I don't think it's just me that it's working for it's. 335 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,560 Working For a lot of people. It's working for a lot of 336 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:05,720 people. And I've got people that I'm 337 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,319 coaching that are doing the same protocol. 338 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,440 You've got a lot of people that you're coaching in the same 339 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,640 protocol. Many of us have coached people 340 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,920 that have since become pros. And you're using the protocol, 341 00:17:18,079 --> 00:17:20,160 Yeah. So walk the walk and talk the 342 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,599 talk. Lena's man alive. 343 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:22,800 That's right. Via the protocol. 344 00:17:22,839 --> 00:17:26,119 Yeah, I'm excited to see what kind of conditioning comes up in 345 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,119 Seattle. Yeah, I am too. 346 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,600 And I've got like a full blown podcast I'm going to do on DEXA 347 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:34,160 Scan results because I got one on Monday of this week. 348 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:36,840 I'm going to get another one on the 30th of November, which will 349 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,480 be after all the shows are over, and that I'm going to get them 350 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:42,800 every three months after that for the reverse diet. 351 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,400 So I'll kind of document the whole reverse diet process as 352 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,680 well, which is one thing that people don't hear enough about, 353 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,920 but it's incredibly important regardless of what diet you 354 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,480 follow, even if you're not competing. 355 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,880 Like reverse dieting is so important and so many people 356 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,720 don't give it the attention it deserves. 357 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,480 So I'm excited to document my reverse diet out of this prep 358 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,000 with the same level of detail that I've documented the prep 359 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,440 itself. Yeah, I think that could be an 360 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:16,160 entire course or topic to incredible degree on its own, 361 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:19,200 just because it does carry so much importance and it's very, 362 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,400 very overlooked by so many competitors. 363 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:26,760 And it just leads to rebounds, weight gains, terrible 364 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,960 relationships with food and dieting. 365 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:33,160 And it's just, it could be just a terrible we could wreak havoc 366 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,160 on you. Well, Speaking of reverse diets, 367 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,120 how many how many weeks or months post show are you now? 368 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,880 Oh. Gosh, let's see. 369 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:51,360 Would have been was it spring of 23, I did my last couple shows, 370 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,040 yeah, yeah, early 23. So I'm reverse starting right 371 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,200 now. I'm still, I mean we're in 372 00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:00,520 November. So I would say I am or am I 910 373 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 months out? I forget I'd have to look at the 374 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,280 spreadsheet. It's pretty long reverse diet, 375 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,720 Yeah. Has it been pretty sustainable 376 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,360 for you? It's been pretty sustainable. 377 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:09,520 I would say that sticking points, Two sticking points 378 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,680 would be one me not being suspicious. 379 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:13,880 Sweater. Keep on talking, yeah. 380 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,560 First one I would say is me not being a patient person when it 381 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:22,520 comes to eating more. So the slower the reverse diet, 382 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,160 the better. But that's not always what. 383 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:27,440 People want to do definitely not you. 384 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:28,760 Don't want to work through it slowly. 385 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,840 You want to just eat all the food, go to all the parties, do 386 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,360 the traveling, do all the fun stuff, eat whatever you want. 387 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,440 But that's where the repercussions come in. 388 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,840 And the second sticking point would be when you start to get a 389 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:43,520 little bit fluffier or you start to lose that definition, which 390 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,840 is bound to happen no matter what. 391 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,040 That's just the mental part of it. 392 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:50,840 Yeah. I mean, you got to just embrace 393 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,400 that. You got to like, accept the 394 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,840 strength gains and the size gains and the muscle gains that 395 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,960 come with that and let that outweigh the psychological 396 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:01,800 component of not being as lean. Is it been weird for you to be 397 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,360 here with me and train with me and pose with me and see me as 398 00:20:05,360 --> 00:20:10,480 lean and dial them in as I am right now, knowing that you are 399 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,000 not that lean, this being as far into the reverse diet as you 400 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 are? It it's you have to kind of 401 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,880 accept it mentally. Like I would love to be as lean 402 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,720 as you are. And maybe next time I do a prep 403 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,760 that'll be my goal is to get close to as lean as you are, 404 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,240 never probably as lean as you are, but you have to just kind 405 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:37,520 of accept the fact that you're in a different stage of the 406 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,560 prep. I mean, I offseason and reverse 407 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,240 that is I guess, considered part of a prep, right? 408 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,200 If you ever have intentions of doing more shows, that's part of 409 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:49,160 the prep for those future shows. So you're in. 410 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,880 You're at the tail end of a prep to the point where your lean as 411 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,640 can be. I'm not, so I'm the chubby guy 412 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560 next to you. Yeah, but so many people that 413 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480 they jump on Instagram and they see people that are dialed in, 414 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,440 you know, around competition season and they're not at that 415 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,920 point at that time and they just like want to get back to that 416 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,960 prematurely. So I think just recognize that 417 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,800 for what it is, being objective, not having this grass is green 418 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,400 on the other side of mentality is so important. 419 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:19,920 True. Yeah, because you're always, 420 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,160 always comparing yourself to somebody else on social media. 421 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,200 Maybe they're posting pictures or things that have been 422 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,960 doctored. So that's another thing to 423 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,000 consider. So I think maybe the majority of 424 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,480 us are guilty of man, that guy's lean or man that girl's lean. 425 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,920 She's really looks good. What is she doing that I'm not? 426 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,760 How can I copy her? What is, you know, what's the 427 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,640 magic go to? And so in in the offseason or 428 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:51,160 the reverse part of the process, just accepting that that's not a 429 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,240 realistic thing to chase or follow or try to mimic, that's 430 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,880 kind of just part of the mentality of being a competitor. 431 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:03,080 Yeah, I mean between seasons. Yeah, you want to get better in 432 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,320 between shows. And if you don't have a 433 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,160 legitimate reverse diet and building phase, you're not going 434 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,480 to, because you'll actually start losing more muscle than 435 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,160 you're gaining it. Especially for natural. 436 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840 Especially for natural. So, like, if you don't give 437 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,080 yourself that time, you're just simply not going to look better 438 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:18,520 next time you step on stage, right? 439 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,120 I don't understand how people can go from season to season to 440 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:26,200 season to season of competitions without an actual reverse diet 441 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,920 back up to at least maintenance level. 442 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:32,040 Yeah, or even a caloric surplus to some extent. 443 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:36,720 And expect to see better or different results each season. 444 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,920 And when you peel the curtain back even further and look under 445 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,360 the hood from a hormonal standpoint, like if you're if 446 00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:47,760 you're not optimizing that post show, which takes quite a bit of 447 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,960 time, you're wrecking havoc on your system on a much deeper 448 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960 level than what you're just seeing in the mirror reflected 449 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:53,800 on the scale, right. Right. 450 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,160 So yeah, it's important when you're judging a book by the 451 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,360 cover, you know, even the people that are dialed in, they're 452 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:02,040 lean. They're just ready for hitting 453 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,800 the stage and then try to maintain that year round or 454 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,280 years on end even. They might look good, act good, 455 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,320 come across good on social media, but what's going on 456 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,560 behind the scenes? Yeah, I mean, like, I'm a case 457 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,680 in point right now. Like, my dieting, my hormonal 458 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,840 levels are not optimal right now because I'm as lean as I am. 459 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,840 I'm eating as little as I am. I don't want to sustain that any 460 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,480 longer than necessary. I'm excited to put on a little 461 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,640 bit of body fat because then my hormones are gonna regulate 462 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,720 better. And like, you just gotta embrace 463 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,640 that. Other side of it like it's not 464 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,360 healthy to go to the one extreme or the other too frequently. 465 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,360 I think there's a massive benefit psychologically from 466 00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,320 going to those extremes. So you can see what your body's 467 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:44,480 capable of, but you have to go into it knowing that you can't 468 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,240 stay in it for long term health. Not to maintain health. 469 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,600 Yeah, yeah. So 100%. 470 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,840 But what? What's exciting for you, man? 471 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280 We've got some exciting things in the works that I don't know 472 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,000 that I want to disclose too much on podcast with, but. 473 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:05,720 You not only are my client and friend, you are a Deeper State 474 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,600 Keto coach. So you coach under that 475 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,280 umbrella, deeper State Keto. We have recently brought you on 476 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,880 to be the primary wholesale point of contact for all things 477 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,120 keto brick. So you're reaching out to 478 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:21,320 wholesale suppliers, getting the Keto bricks and brick and mortar 479 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:25,200 stores, mom and pop shops, all that good stuff, and we're going 480 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,440 to start integrating you more on the social media front. 481 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,200 And the influencer outreach program, affiliate network 482 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,800 program and some more things, I want to get you back down, not 483 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:37,880 back down. I want to get you down to 484 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,320 Arkansas. That's the work. 485 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,440 That's the work in progress. Maybe we don't want to spill too 486 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,400 many beans here on this episode of the podcast, but if we rewind 487 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,200 10 Seconds to the keto brick wholesale side of things, if 488 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,280 anybody's listening. And they might have a good idea 489 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,080 for somewhere that they'd like to see the keto brick line of 490 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:01,600 flavors on a store shelf, a gym shelf, a supplement shop, coffee 491 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,320 shop, You name it, get in touch with me or Robert. 492 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,640 Get in touch with you. That's our goal. 493 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,760 That's, that's the goal going forward here is we're going to 494 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,400 try to get a little bit more retail activity going, wholesale 495 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,240 activity going. We've got an awesome wholesale 496 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,640 program as far as getting stuff out and it's never cost a dime 497 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:23,600 to ship it anywhere in the Lower 48 and we can ship it worldwide. 498 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,200 So we're trying to get some more overseas locations and 499 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,080 international locations. So definitely, definitely, 500 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,720 definitely, definitely that is the growth plan for Ketobrick. 501 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,320 That was the whole point of this podcast, right? 502 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,600 To have that shameless plug thrown in there. 503 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,560 Just took over it and. I like man. 504 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,680 I'm excited to have you used part of the scene because you 505 00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,560 and I clicked so well. We have from the very beginning. 506 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,080 We have similar mentality. You're a hustler, you get great 507 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,880 work ethic and a great attitude and. 508 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,080 That's hard to find these days, so I appreciate it. 509 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,320 I'm stoked to have you. It's probably why I was drawn 510 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,960 into choosing you as a coach is because that's what you that's 511 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,560 what you emanate. I try, I try. 512 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,480 It's just like you're just a solid guy, so. 513 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,880 What There's so much there's with coaching especially, man, 514 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,200 There's so much of this scarcity mindset out there where like, 515 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,920 oh, I'm the best coach. If you don't use me, you're not 516 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,240 doing it right. But like, I want to empower 517 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,840 people to just simply get healthier. 518 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,000 And whatever coach they resonate most with, work with them. 519 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,080 If they don't work out well, then find another coach. 520 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800 Like, there are so many unhealthy people in America 521 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,680 right now, so many other people in the world. 522 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:31,880 It's like we shouldn't be fighting over who is the best 523 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,320 coach. Like let's just all be on the 524 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:34,800 same team and get people healthier. 525 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,520 And I've got a very specific protocol that definitely works 526 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,760 for people. Not necessarily all people, but 527 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,720 if it works for you, great. I'm happy to work with you. 528 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,360 If it's not a good fit, then find someone that it is, but 529 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,880 just simply get healthier at the end of the day, yeah, for sure. 530 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,040 Like there's there's no reason to work with the coach that you 531 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,600 don't necessarily, you know, agree with or see and I with. 532 00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,640 So find someone who matches your energy and your goals. 533 00:27:01,120 --> 00:27:02,640 Let's talk about something exciting, man. 534 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:08,160 OK, let's talk about celebratory meals, post competitions. 535 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,960 All right, so. I am four shows deep into a 5 536 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,600 show season. I've been dining at this point 537 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:19,840 now for 31 weeks straight and I have not had a celebratory meal 538 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,040 post show yet because I had future shows in the pipeline. 539 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:28,320 So tonight after this show, my first pro debut show, I went out 540 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,080 and I bought y'all all dry aged steaks. 541 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:33,640 Y'all had the steaks every night. 542 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,000 So we did a burger night one night. 543 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,760 At the Airbnb here, Red bead every day. 544 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,120 Yeah, but this day celebratory meal day post show, we got some 545 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:48,240 dry aged rib eyes and then we did AII cooked it up. 546 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,000 I browned some butter, had brown butter and then I had a ton of 547 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,640 brown butter and I deep fried. I reverse seared the rib eye 548 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,200 steaks and then I you seared them on the in the brown butter 549 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,800 on the skillet. How was that? 550 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,160 Was it again? Oh man, I think mine was 22 551 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,480 ounces. Give or take. 552 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,840 It was a big I threw mine on the scale. 553 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,720 Chips was bigger, chips was a little thicker. 554 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,560 He had a little bit more girth to his. 555 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,920 But holy cow, I got to say, you are a connoisseur of the red 556 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,440 meats in the kitchen. So the first night, Let's see, 557 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,400 the first night, we had steaks and you seared them then, right? 558 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,440 Yeah, that was that was a sear with with butter. 559 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,320 But it wasn't. It wasn't brown butter and it 560 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,240 wasn't the deep bread. And then the second batch of New 561 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,920 York strips that you made were made a little bit different way. 562 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,840 Those are reversed seared in stainless steel but no butter. 563 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,240 Yep. And then just tonight was the 564 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,680 dry aged and they were in cooked in the butter and duck fat. 565 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,800 And deep fried, yeah, Deep fried, yeah, yeah. 566 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,440 Of the three, which did you like the most? 567 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,200 Chip, I gotta ask. I gotta ask Chip to Chip, says 568 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,200 day three. I gotta, I probably gotta have 569 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,520 to agree with day three. All right, so it's pretty, 570 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,400 pretty incredible that you lived vicariously through us with this 571 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:09,720 incredibly prepared humongous rib eye and you ate your meal 572 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:15,840 prepped measured macro tract to the so weighed, weighed the salt 573 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:21,240 in a little dish on the scale to the gram and just stay totally 574 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,880 dialed that most competitors would go out, they'd, you know, 575 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,520 maybe hopefully not binge, but maybe they would enjoy something 576 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,200 that they normally wouldn't on their meal plan and they 577 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,840 wouldn't track it, they wouldn't weigh it. 578 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,760 They would have no guilt. Some competitors would end up 579 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,240 turning that into a tailspin, going backwards and just 580 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:42,480 downward spiraling into, you know, gaining £10 and getting 581 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360 sick and doing all this bad stuff. 582 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,920 So kudos to you. Appreciate it because you 583 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,160 appreciate it because you, in my opinion, my viewpoint would be 584 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,160 like, all right, I have two weeks for the next show. 585 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,200 I could probably afford one little freebie meal tonight, 586 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,280 Yeah. And I probably would have done 587 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,200 that, yeah. So you to stay so dialed in and 588 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:06,960 I've never seen anybody dial in two AT you're even measuring the 589 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,680 water. I am measuring the water. 590 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,720 Yeah. So if anybody looks, if 591 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600 anybody's looking for a competitor to dial it in to the 592 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,440 Max, it's got to be you. Appreciate that. 593 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:23,120 What's crazy, Speaking of guilt, is I had my, my prepped meal and 594 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:27,160 then I had my you were kind of to crush some ice for me because 595 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,480 there's not any sonics around here that have crushed ice. 596 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:33,640 But one of my guilty pleasures is a cup of ice. 597 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,080 With a 0 calorie water enhancer, like the stir brand clean water 598 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,320 enhancer squirted in there, my guilty pleasure tonight was I 599 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:45,480 had a little bit extra of that stir in there and I legitimately 600 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,240 feel guilty about it. So you had twice as much as 0 601 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:49,240 calorie? Yeah. 602 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,640 So still 0 calorie, Yeah. So. 603 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,240 Who knows, Who knows? But the exciting part for me is 604 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,680 after Worlds, So I got two weeks until Worlds as of today. 605 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,200 I've taken all y'all out to a Brazilian steakhouse, probably 606 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,840 either Fogo de Chao or Texas de Brazil, depending on 607 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:07,600 locationally. Which one makes more sense? 608 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,160 And I'm going to have one meal in the reverse. 609 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,440 That'll be the start of my reverse. 610 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,200 Technically, that'll be the one meal that is not way down macro 611 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,200 track the tea ad libitum. Eat until I'm full. 612 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,000 So it's going to be all vegetables. 613 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Oh yeah, yeah, all vegetables. Vegan. 614 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:27,600 Yeah. Vegan. 615 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,760 Yeah. No, it's definitely going to be 616 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,400 all meat. I'll have my brick that day. 617 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,720 I'll bring a break. I'll have that at the restaurant 618 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,200 first before I allow myself, like, while they're getting the 619 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:40,600 meat ready, I'm going to eat my brick and then I'm going to go 620 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,160 to town on whatever meat I want to. 621 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,240 I don't even know if I want to have anything from the salad 622 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,920 bar, like the cheeses or stuff. I might. 623 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:48,920 I might not. I'm not sure. 624 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,640 I don't know if I want to have Crystal make a keto dessert. 625 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,840 I may or may not. I'm not sure but. 626 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,680 Definitely gonna eat a ton of meat that night. 627 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000 It's gonna be good. I'll join you. 628 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,560 Chip. Chip will join us. 629 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,400 Y'all gotta like, give me some competition. 630 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,040 I'm probably not gonna track my food that day. 631 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,640 Oh yeah, just say I wouldn't. I might. 632 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,760 I might fast a bit in the morning that day, have a little 633 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,480 bit of something just to break the fast early afternoon. 634 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,520 Yeah. And then we better bring bibs. 635 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:18,360 Better bring bibs, but at the end of the day, like having a 636 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,920 massive bolus of meat as opposed to a massive bolus of. 637 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:27,320 Pizza or something like that. Sugars, candies, carbs. 638 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,720 Like your body is going to respond so much better. 639 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,320 Like when Crystal did her show and she did that, she didn't 640 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280 even feel bad the next day. She didn't even feel bad the 641 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:40,480 night of that much. She had a keto dessert then too. 642 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,760 But like, had she done just me? She probably won't feel bad at 643 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,880 all. So I don't know what I'm going 644 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,960 to do with dessert, but yeah, I'm going to go to town on that 645 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,040 meat. It's going to be no questions 646 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,800 asked, but then I'm right back to track him. 647 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,080 Because I want to document this reverse diet and be very 648 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,760 strategic in that. So I think that's key. 649 00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,640 So once you finish your competition and you do allow 650 00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,680 yourself that free meal or that, I guess more lenient meal, I 651 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,320 shouldn't say free meal. I feel that's the important part 652 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:12,240 that a lot of people don't jump back on the next morning. 653 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,320 Yeah. Is they just feel like, oh, 654 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,920 well, I had a, you know, crazy meal last night, Maybe I can 655 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,320 have a little crazy breakfast too. 656 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,600 Yeah. When they go to the hotel 657 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,560 breakfast buffet, they load up on that kind of stuff. 658 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,920 It's. A slippery slope, man. 659 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,880 It's a slippery slope. Pretty soon, later in the day, 660 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,320 you're thinking, well, I don't know where I'm at. 661 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,360 I don't know where I stand as far as my macros go today 662 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,720 because I didn't track this morning. 663 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,200 And then pretty soon you're having whatever you want for 664 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,880 dinner and then the next day and it's it is a slippery slope. 665 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,360 So yeah, I've done it. That's what I ended up having 666 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,840 happened to me in 10 years ago. Yeah, and the next week after 667 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,760 that show is Thanksgiving. But I'm tracking on my food 668 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,280 Thanksgiving. Like, I'm gonna have all my food 669 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,240 there. It's going to be dialed in. 670 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,440 I've got, I've got. I promised my crew I'd take him 671 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,720 out to a Brazilian steakhouse when I get back. 672 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,320 So at some point when I get back, I'm going to one more 673 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Brazilian steakhouse. I don't really know what I'm 674 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:04,000 going to do with that one yet, but it'll be one meal that I may 675 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,240 or may not track. I'm not sure apart from the one 676 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,960 after the show, but that's my only planned deviations at all. 677 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,400 And that's really not that big of a deviation because you're 678 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,239 still going to be choosing the same type of foods that you 679 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,159 would normally choose on track. Yeah. 680 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,920 So you're just not necessarily tracking the quantities? 681 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,880 Yeah, it's all obviously gonna be keto, right? 682 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,400 So your your carbs are still gonna be incredibly low. 683 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,239 Yeah, it's just gonna be protein to fat. 684 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Yeah. And you over eat protein and 685 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,159 what's gonna happen? Yeah, I mean, you over eat fat, 686 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,400 you're gonna have a little bit more energy. 687 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,960 Maybe you just hit the gym with a little bit more intensity the 688 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,639 next day you get. Back into it 100%. 689 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:42,760 So I'm looking forward to that. It's going to be good. 690 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,120 I'm excited. I'm not going to be eating 691 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,280 crushed ice that day, not going to be eating crushed ice that 692 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,480 day. The form of keto ice cream or 693 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:49,080 something. Yeah. 694 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,199 All right. So what else we got? 695 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:54,239 Is there anything else brewing that we want to talk about? 696 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,840 I'm pretty tired right now. Yeah, it's been a long day for 697 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,920 you, I'm sure. What time is it? 698 00:34:59,920 --> 00:35:03,440 Here it is 8. 30 Is it? Is it bad of us to go to bed at 699 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,440 8:30? This is what time I usually go 700 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,200 to bed. Yeah, I'm winding down by 839. 701 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,440 O'clock. I feel like I've been tired 702 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:10,920 talking throughout this podcast. This is not the normal energy I 703 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,160 bring, but I was super tired when we got back from the show. 704 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,200 Yeah, and I had to make that newsletter and then film all 705 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,280 that content. So I'm dragging right now. 706 00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:19,280 Yeah. Well, you've been hitting it all 707 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,800 day, so. Well, how about we call it end 708 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,920 to the podcast, we pack up and we get some sleep and then we 709 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,560 hit the day strong tomorrow. That's right. 710 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,440 Yep, we're all flying home tomorrow. 711 00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:31,880 We're all flying home tomorrow, man. 712 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,440 Safe flight. Appreciate you being here, 713 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,520 brother. I appreciate the and I'm excited 714 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,240 to see you in Seattle 4 Worlds, man. 715 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Two weeks. People can go where to find you 716 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,960 Keto Greg, 80, on Instagram. Keto Greg 80 on Instagram. 717 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,920 Yep, 80. 80 Yep, I'll link out to that. 718 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,400 Made Easy people to find you and definitely reach out with any 719 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,680 wholesale inquiries or just to get in touch with Greg. 720 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,840 He's an awesome guy. You bet. 721 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,440 Thank you. Appreciate you, Greg.