What is going on? Y'all, Robert Sykes, Keto,
savage.com. And today I've got special
guest, good friend and client Greg in the building.
We are actually recording this at an Airbnb in Boston, MA.
We just wrapped up my pro debut show at the Monster Mash
competition and we're going to dive into that.
We're also going to talk about reverse dieting and the
significance of that. Want to talk about some things
we've got in the pipeline that are super exciting.
As I was recording this, I realized how tired and hopefully
not in drive I may have sounded. I'm just exhausted.
Y'all, I mean we've been going on stop.
We had the show today and I'm worn out and ready to go to
sleep, but hopefully y'all got something great out of it.
So without further delay, sit back, relax and enjoy the
podcast conversation with my good friend Greg.
We are live. How you doing, Greg?
I'm doing well, good. We got a little podcast action
going. On post show.
We actually filmed quite a bit of content, so it feels like
we're just on A roll right now. We did a a talking Head of You,
Crystal Chip myself, a screen capture that went over my macros
and now we're doing a podcast because I'm short on podcast and
I'm travelling and I need a podcast for next Friday.
So I wrangled you in, and here we are.
And we got all the gear right here, and we have all the gear
right here. And I lugged all this gear all
over the airport, so I felt like I had to record a podcast.
You know, it wouldn't have been right to not use it after
lugging it everywhere. So for the sake of being
repetitive and a little redundant for the content we've
already talked about, but who may not be hearing it if they're
just listening to the podcast, let's do a little recap on the
show. Give me some of your thoughts
and then we'll just kind of go into a friendly banter about
whatever else we want to talk about.
Let's go. So today was the Monster Mash
competition. I stepped on stage and competed
at about 10:30. It is now 754 and this was my
pro debut show. How'd you think about it all,
man? I gotta sit.
First off, congratulations. Thank you.
You looked absolutely stellar. Appreciate it.
You were definitely the leanest man, if if not the leanest man
alive. The leanest man on the stage.
In my opinion, conditioning was dialed in vascularity.
It is kind of hard to tell those older competitors though, man,
they get that super thin skin, so they got the vascularity.
But like, like when you look at them past the thinness of the
skin, if like, I had more definition for sure, yeah.
Totally agree. Yep.
Striations in areas where nobody else really had them, so you had
the conditioning dialed in. I think they were kind of on the
hunt for guys of size, yeah. And just overall bulk, which is
somewhat unfortunate because in my opinion they may not have
been as well balanced from head to toe, yeah.
But you had the balance, you had the symmetry, the balance, the
upper body, lower body, it all kind of meshed very well.
Yeah, the I definitely feel like I was the most conditioned guy
on stage. I feel like I was more
conditioned than I was at any point up to this date.
I mean this was I competed at 154, which is a pound and a half
lighter than what I was at the Washington show that I went pro
at 3 weeks ago. You and I trained at the gym the
day prior, and I mean I was seeing veins I had never seen
before. That was crazy.
Yeah, your your vascularity at the gym would have been, what,
Saturday morning? Yeah, Saturday morning.
But then when I woke up this morning, yesterday morning and
this morning, it was just like, yeah, I've never seen that thing
before. So I feel confident that I am
leaner than I've ever been, for sure.
I'm definitely leaner than I've ever been.
I I can confidently say that I feel like I've looked better
conditionally speaking than I did at the prior show.
I do think my color at this show screwed with me a little bit
because I think it was too dark. I would agree.
Yeah. Did you say they put 3 total
coats of spray on you? 2 the night before 1 the day of
yeah, they were originally going to put one coat on the night
before, 1 coat on the morning of.
But they wound up doing 2 coats the night before and then an
additional coat this morning. And I think I was too dark for
the way the stage lights were set up because it was like a
temporary stage or temporary lights they brought in.
And I had this happen in 2017 where I got so dark using a
different tanning product that it just washed out some of my
definition, which is frustrating because I don't get to see
myself on stage. I just get a look at the
professional photos after the fact.
So it may look like I brought a better package at the Washington
show than I did to this show. But just looking at myself
objectively in the mirror and like, you know, when I wake up
and see myself, I feel like I was actually better condition
for this show. Yeah.
Totally agree. So and then what if you were?
If you compare your weight that you hit the stage today against
your last prep, So like the last time you prepped your body
weight. Yeah.
Or what to this morning or what, 150, 4154 this morning.
The last time I prepped it was in 2020.
Yep. And I got down to 157 OK in
2020. But you didn't have quite the
leanness, right? Yeah, this is definitely, it's
ever been 100%. So I feel confident about that.
I feel good about that. But I definitely feel like
you're right. And that they were looking for
size because the two guys that won were definitely not as
conditioned as me, but they were significantly bigger than me.
I mean, like, they were huge, yeah.
They, they were, they were £40 plus maybe, yeah.
The guy. That one was 192 pounds.
OK. So, yeah, 40 pounds, yeah.
And when you they brought you guys out on stage to start the
comparisons. You could kind of tell that they
had those guys pegged from the get go because they were the way
they were moving those guys around and kind of centering
them in the lighting or lack of because it was, it was a little
bit of poor lighting. I would definitely agree with
that. They were moving them around.
They got kind of the majority of the attention.
They definitely didn't. They were looking for size for
sure, which again, I mean like it's a subjective sport.
Sometimes they air on the side of size, sometimes conditioning.
But this panel of judges seem to prioritize the size.
And they look great, like they had great shape.
I mean, like that one guy's biceps were astronomical and
that one guy's legs were insane. I mean, they definitely outsize
me, like, there's no doubt about that.
But I can't control that. And I think I was definitely
leaner than anybody else on stage.
Well, maybe that kind of goes with that type of territory as
well, because because the size of the class was 7.
Total competitors and I got 5th. We just started off the podcast.
I got fifth out of seven on this pro debut.
But they had a pretty wide variety of age, height and
weight they did. So you know, that's kind of the
mishmash of competitors all against one another versus
having, you know, smaller classes or same size classes
even of more comparable competitors against one another.
Yeah, I kind of like that it was a one and done like made the
best man win kind of deal. But at the same time, you know,
I'm always more competitive amongst the class of people that
are similar weight than me because then it's everybody's
looking for conditioning because we're all the same weight
roughly. So yeah, I mean when you've got
a guy lined up of seven guys and there's no weight classes like
it's all over the board. Yeah, for sure.
That was interesting. That was first time doing that
for me, which was, you know, got that experience now.
So yeah, that was good. How, how did the, how did the
variables that I had control over play out?
Like do you think there's anything I could have done
better than what I did? I.
Don't think you left anything on the table, OK, that was in your
control. So as far as like your prep
goes, your offseason gains go, your training, your cardio, your
dialing in, your macros for peak week refeed, doing the bricks
the evening before and the morning of.
How do you feel? Because I don't think there's
anything that you could have changed.
Yeah, like I was. I was talking to Chip when we
were filming my little talking head clip before.
It's like I get in my head. So there's like things that I
think I could have done better that may have cost me.
Like, I feel like I should have pumped up a little bit longer
before stepping on stage because I did continue to look better as
we were on stage longer. But I don't think that would
have really changed the placing at the end of the day.
I just, I think I could have probably changed my attitude
overall. And Chip brought this to my
attention. He's like you went in as a
killer, you know, cold hard steel face and just ready to
rock with a mission. And you didn't really let your
personality come through as much.
Like you weren't really looking at the judges and smiling and
just being more, you know, approachable.
I guess because I was so hyper focused.
And I think I was so hyper focused because this was my
first pro show and I was competing against, you know,
professional athletes. And I wanted to just zero in on
my composure and conditioning because I knew that I wasn't
going to win on a size basis. And I could tell that they were
getting winded because their conditioning wasn't as good.
Like they were starting to, you know, sweat profusely.
They were starting to, you know, shake much more on stage with
the poses. So I wanted to just be stone
cold steel up there, you know, and not not deviate and just
nail the poses. And I think I did that, but it
cost me the personality component.
So I think I probably could bring that to the table more.
True. True to, to an extent.
Because I think part of part of your straight face demeanor,
being on stage and holding your poses also came across as being
like you weren't there to screw around.
Yeah. And your conditioning was on
point and you also had that sense of confidence regarding
your conditioning. Did I look confident up there?
You looked confident. I don't know if anybody would
have perceived you as maybe having a little bit of, I don't
wouldn't say cockiness, but more confidence.
Yeah, but I guess if you were to open up a little bit more, allow
some facial expressions in. You know, do that kind of thing.
That may help. I suppose it depends on the
judging panel, yeah, for sure. But on the flip side of that,
the way that you were able to hold your cool and composure and
hold your posing, flex everything solid, you had the
endurance. You probably had more endurance
than the other six guys combined because like you just mentioned,
and for anybody that didn't see it, Robert had, he was dialed
in. They would call the pose.
He would nail the pose. And he would stay 100%, fully
flexed for the duration of that pose, while all the other guys
standing on left and right of Robert were shaking, quivering,
sweating to the point where after a couple rounds of
symmetry posing, they were even having to wipe their face, wipe
their tan off between their pecs.
And they were dripping. Literally dripping.
And you were. It was almost comical because
you were like bone dry, like not a trip of running tan anywhere
on you. It's kind of funny, man.
Like a totally different panel of judges could have judges
totally differently and. That's part of the sport.
Yeah, that is part of the sport. I mean, like if if the panel of
judges were like, look, we were going to make them work for it,
we're going to keep them up there longer.
We're going to see whose condition, we're going to see
who's put in the work. With the posing, I feel like I
would have fared much better and you got a panel like today and
it's like, hey, we're going to prioritize the size.
And I just don't. I mean, I I don't have an extra
£40 on me and I don't want to make excuses for myself, like
what good does that do? Like I feel good about the
outcome. I mean, I'm totally at peace
with it, but I'm just nitpicking myself, OK?
What can I control? What can I improve upon for next
time? And I don't know, like I get in
my head. That's what I do.
That's that's a good point because like the way that you
had the endurance and you were able to hold your poses even as
the other guys returning to waiver.
I've been to shows where the announcer will actually dial
right in on that and they'll say you can see these guys are
working hard for it. You know, with a class this
tight and all these guys looking so close together, we're going
to make them work for it. And the one who comes out at the
end and is still able to hit the poses and nail the poses and has
the accuracy of just being just having the endurance and being
able to not waver and still flex, they're going to come out
on top. They're going to get a little
bit more. They're going to get a little
more bonus point, yeah. And I don't think that played
into your favor as much as it could have today and I think.
It would have helped, definitely, yeah.
And I think that's what I expected coming into it.
So that's the mission and that I went into it with and the the
plan that I had in mind. But that's just, I mean you're
not on stage for that long a time anyway.
So like you can't really totally change personality mid and I
guess you kind of I kind of did with the the pose down but like
that's just the mentality I had going into it.
So that was interesting how that played out.
So yeah first first pro debut experience, I'd say it's a
learning experience for sure I learned from it the judging
criteria or feedback rather afterwards was that they also
that I had the conditioning, the symmetry proportion that just
didn't have a size. So after this last show in
Worlds, I'm just gonna put on some more size and the name of
the game. I could always use more of that
keto. Gains.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now you've got Worlds in two
weeks. Worlds is in two weeks.
So next week I will be depleting down further.
I'll only have the one refeed meal, the Keto Genic Refeed
Pizza. My macros are going to be like
1600 calories that week. And then the week of Worlds, I'm
probably going to have the extra pound of lamb starting on Monday
instead of on Tuesday. So I have an additional day of
the extra lamb and then kind of refeed into the entire week,
Have the refeed pizza on Friday. And then depending on what time
I step on stage on Sunday, I'll either have the brick, the extra
brick on show day or the night before.
I think my body did not respond poorly to having it the night
before that I could tell. What do you think?
'Cause you had a brick, it was probably, what, like 7-8 o'clock
on Saturday night. Last night, Yeah, yeah, that was
probably like 9. Yeah, it was late it.
Was it was later. And then you had another brick
the following morning, This morning stage, right.
Yeah, at about 9:00. Yeah 'cause you, but you still
looked Super Dell then this morning prior to the brick.
Yeah. So the brick, the second brick
helped fill you out and but I don't think like I think having
the additional brick last night as opposed to this morning was
probably a good call because having two bricks today was
stepping on stage that early probably wouldn't have been
optimal. That might have weighed a little
heavy on you. That would have been an extra
2000 calories. So Worlds just kind of depends
on when I step on stage. I think it's going to be a sun.
It's a Sunday show again. And then I'm in the very middle
of the lineup and I think it starts at 9:00.
So it's going to be kind of right down the border.
Maybe I'll do a brick and a half, yeah.
And we probably are going to expect to see larger classes to
the point where they even have to break them up into.
Will it go by weight classes if there is enough competitors?
Yeah, it'll be broken up. So yeah, I may do one before
that and then another one. Like if there's a battle for the
overall of a class that I'll probably do that and have
another break after that. OK, so couple variables still in
the works with Worlds, but I'm going to do a depletion week
next week, which is the one refeed meal.
That'll be a pretty significant drop in calories from this week
once it all averages out, and then we'll go into Worlds guns
blazing. Awesome.
I'm excited and you go into that.
One too, Yeah. What was it like for you just
simply being at one of these shows with me?
It was awesome. As opposed to because you and I
have worked together. You've been a client of mine for
how long now? Since was it 2020, 2020?
I did my first prep with you. Yeah.
Was for shows in 21 your first ketogenic prep, Yeah, And then.
Wait, I think we officially met. Well, we started.
We actually we started working together before we met in
person. I met your person in Omaha later
on. Yeah, so I've been working with
you since I think, 2020. So we're going on 3-4 years.
It's crazy, man. Good night.
And and two preps. 2 seasons you get your pro card.
Got a pro card? Yeah, all with my Ketogenic Prep
protocol. Yep, Yep.
So I don't think it's just me that it's working for it's.
Working For a lot of people. It's working for a lot of
people. And I've got people that I'm
coaching that are doing the same protocol.
You've got a lot of people that you're coaching in the same
protocol. Many of us have coached people
that have since become pros. And you're using the protocol,
Yeah. So walk the walk and talk the
talk. Lena's man alive.
That's right. Via the protocol.
Yeah, I'm excited to see what kind of conditioning comes up in
Seattle. Yeah, I am too.
And I've got like a full blown podcast I'm going to do on DEXA
Scan results because I got one on Monday of this week.
I'm going to get another one on the 30th of November, which will
be after all the shows are over, and that I'm going to get them
every three months after that for the reverse diet.
So I'll kind of document the whole reverse diet process as
well, which is one thing that people don't hear enough about,
but it's incredibly important regardless of what diet you
follow, even if you're not competing.
Like reverse dieting is so important and so many people
don't give it the attention it deserves.
So I'm excited to document my reverse diet out of this prep
with the same level of detail that I've documented the prep
itself. Yeah, I think that could be an
entire course or topic to incredible degree on its own,
just because it does carry so much importance and it's very,
very overlooked by so many competitors.
And it just leads to rebounds, weight gains, terrible
relationships with food and dieting.
And it's just, it could be just a terrible we could wreak havoc
on you. Well, Speaking of reverse diets,
how many how many weeks or months post show are you now?
Oh. Gosh, let's see.
Would have been was it spring of 23, I did my last couple shows,
yeah, yeah, early 23. So I'm reverse starting right
now. I'm still, I mean we're in
November. So I would say I am or am I 910
months out? I forget I'd have to look at the
spreadsheet. It's pretty long reverse diet,
Yeah. Has it been pretty sustainable
for you? It's been pretty sustainable.
I would say that sticking points, Two sticking points
would be one me not being suspicious.
Sweater. Keep on talking, yeah.
First one I would say is me not being a patient person when it
comes to eating more. So the slower the reverse diet,
the better. But that's not always what.
People want to do definitely not you.
Don't want to work through it slowly.
You want to just eat all the food, go to all the parties, do
the traveling, do all the fun stuff, eat whatever you want.
But that's where the repercussions come in.
And the second sticking point would be when you start to get a
little bit fluffier or you start to lose that definition, which
is bound to happen no matter what.
That's just the mental part of it.
Yeah. I mean, you got to just embrace
that. You got to like, accept the
strength gains and the size gains and the muscle gains that
come with that and let that outweigh the psychological
component of not being as lean. Is it been weird for you to be
here with me and train with me and pose with me and see me as
lean and dial them in as I am right now, knowing that you are
not that lean, this being as far into the reverse diet as you
are? It it's you have to kind of
accept it mentally. Like I would love to be as lean
as you are. And maybe next time I do a prep
that'll be my goal is to get close to as lean as you are,
never probably as lean as you are, but you have to just kind
of accept the fact that you're in a different stage of the
prep. I mean, I offseason and reverse
that is I guess, considered part of a prep, right?
If you ever have intentions of doing more shows, that's part of
the prep for those future shows. So you're in.
You're at the tail end of a prep to the point where your lean as
can be. I'm not, so I'm the chubby guy
next to you. Yeah, but so many people that
they jump on Instagram and they see people that are dialed in,
you know, around competition season and they're not at that
point at that time and they just like want to get back to that
prematurely. So I think just recognize that
for what it is, being objective, not having this grass is green
on the other side of mentality is so important.
True. Yeah, because you're always,
always comparing yourself to somebody else on social media.
Maybe they're posting pictures or things that have been
doctored. So that's another thing to
consider. So I think maybe the majority of
us are guilty of man, that guy's lean or man that girl's lean.
She's really looks good. What is she doing that I'm not?
How can I copy her? What is, you know, what's the
magic go to? And so in in the offseason or
the reverse part of the process, just accepting that that's not a
realistic thing to chase or follow or try to mimic, that's
kind of just part of the mentality of being a competitor.
Yeah, I mean between seasons. Yeah, you want to get better in
between shows. And if you don't have a
legitimate reverse diet and building phase, you're not going
to, because you'll actually start losing more muscle than
you're gaining it. Especially for natural.
So, like, if you don't give
yourself that time, you're just simply not going to look better
next time you step on stage, right?
I don't understand how people can go from season to season to
season to season of competitions without an actual reverse diet
back up to at least maintenance level.
Yeah, or even a caloric surplus to some extent.
And expect to see better or different results each season.
And when you peel the curtain back even further and look under
the hood from a hormonal standpoint, like if you're if
you're not optimizing that post show, which takes quite a bit of
time, you're wrecking havoc on your system on a much deeper
level than what you're just seeing in the mirror reflected
on the scale, right. Right.
So yeah, it's important when you're judging a book by the
cover, you know, even the people that are dialed in, they're
lean. They're just ready for hitting
the stage and then try to maintain that year round or
years on end even. They might look good, act good,
come across good on social media, but what's going on
behind the scenes? Yeah, I mean, like, I'm a case
in point right now. Like, my dieting, my hormonal
levels are not optimal right now because I'm as lean as I am.
I'm eating as little as I am. I don't want to sustain that any
longer than necessary. I'm excited to put on a little
bit of body fat because then my hormones are gonna regulate
better. And like, you just gotta embrace
that. Other side of it like it's not
healthy to go to the one extreme or the other too frequently.
I think there's a massive benefit psychologically from
going to those extremes. So you can see what your body's
capable of, but you have to go into it knowing that you can't
stay in it for long term health. Not to maintain health.
Yeah, yeah. So 100%.
But what? What's exciting for you, man?
We've got some exciting things in the works that I don't know
that I want to disclose too much on podcast with, but.
You not only are my client and friend, you are a Deeper State
Keto coach. So you coach under that
umbrella, deeper State Keto. We have recently brought you on
to be the primary wholesale point of contact for all things
keto brick. So you're reaching out to
wholesale suppliers, getting the Keto bricks and brick and mortar
stores, mom and pop shops, all that good stuff, and we're going
to start integrating you more on the social media front.
And the influencer outreach program, affiliate network
program and some more things, I want to get you back down, not
back down. I want to get you down to
Arkansas. That's the work.
That's the work in progress. Maybe we don't want to spill too
many beans here on this episode of the podcast, but if we rewind
10 Seconds to the keto brick wholesale side of things, if
anybody's listening. And they might have a good idea
for somewhere that they'd like to see the keto brick line of
flavors on a store shelf, a gym shelf, a supplement shop, coffee
shop, You name it, get in touch with me or Robert.
Get in touch with you. That's our goal.
That's, that's the goal going forward here is we're going to
try to get a little bit more retail activity going, wholesale
activity going. We've got an awesome wholesale
program as far as getting stuff out and it's never cost a dime
to ship it anywhere in the Lower 48 and we can ship it worldwide.
So we're trying to get some more overseas locations and
international locations. So definitely, definitely,
definitely, definitely that is the growth plan for Ketobrick.
That was the whole point of this podcast, right?
To have that shameless plug thrown in there.
Just took over it and. I like man.
I'm excited to have you used part of the scene because you
and I clicked so well. We have from the very beginning.
We have similar mentality. You're a hustler, you get great
work ethic and a great attitude and.
That's hard to find these days, so I appreciate it.
I'm stoked to have you. It's probably why I was drawn
into choosing you as a coach is because that's what you that's
what you emanate. I try, I try.
It's just like you're just a solid guy, so.
What There's so much there's with coaching especially, man,
There's so much of this scarcity mindset out there where like,
oh, I'm the best coach. If you don't use me, you're not
doing it right. But like, I want to empower
people to just simply get healthier.
And whatever coach they resonate most with, work with them.
If they don't work out well, then find another coach.
Like, there are so many unhealthy people in America
right now, so many other people in the world.
It's like we shouldn't be fighting over who is the best
coach. Like let's just all be on the
same team and get people healthier.
And I've got a very specific protocol that definitely works
for people. Not necessarily all people, but
if it works for you, great. I'm happy to work with you.
If it's not a good fit, then find someone that it is, but
just simply get healthier at the end of the day, yeah, for sure.
Like there's there's no reason to work with the coach that you
don't necessarily, you know, agree with or see and I with.
So find someone who matches your energy and your goals.
Let's talk about something exciting, man.
OK, let's talk about celebratory meals, post competitions.
All right, so. I am four shows deep into a 5
show season. I've been dining at this point
now for 31 weeks straight and I have not had a celebratory meal
post show yet because I had future shows in the pipeline.
So tonight after this show, my first pro debut show, I went out
and I bought y'all all dry aged steaks.
Y'all had the steaks every night.
So we did a burger night one night.
At the Airbnb here, Red bead every day.
Yeah, but this day celebratory meal day post show, we got some
dry aged rib eyes and then we did AII cooked it up.
I browned some butter, had brown butter and then I had a ton of
brown butter and I deep fried. I reverse seared the rib eye
steaks and then I you seared them on the in the brown butter
on the skillet. How was that?
Was it again? Oh man, I think mine was 22
ounces. Give or take.
It was a big I threw mine on the scale.
Chips was bigger, chips was a little thicker.
He had a little bit more girth to his.
But holy cow, I got to say, you are a connoisseur of the red
meats in the kitchen. So the first night, Let's see,
the first night, we had steaks and you seared them then, right?
Yeah, that was that was a sear with with butter.
But it wasn't. It wasn't brown butter and it
wasn't the deep bread. And then the second batch of New
York strips that you made were made a little bit different way.
Those are reversed seared in stainless steel but no butter.
Yep. And then just tonight was the
dry aged and they were in cooked in the butter and duck fat.
And deep fried, yeah, Deep fried, yeah, yeah.
Of the three, which did you like the most?
Chip, I gotta ask. I gotta ask Chip to Chip, says
day three. I gotta, I probably gotta have
to agree with day three. All right, so it's pretty,
pretty incredible that you lived vicariously through us with this
incredibly prepared humongous rib eye and you ate your meal
prepped measured macro tract to the so weighed, weighed the salt
in a little dish on the scale to the gram and just stay totally
dialed that most competitors would go out, they'd, you know,
maybe hopefully not binge, but maybe they would enjoy something
that they normally wouldn't on their meal plan and they
wouldn't track it, they wouldn't weigh it.
They would have no guilt. Some competitors would end up
turning that into a tailspin, going backwards and just
downward spiraling into, you know, gaining £10 and getting
sick and doing all this bad stuff.
So kudos to you. Appreciate it because you
appreciate it because you, in my opinion, my viewpoint would be
like, all right, I have two weeks for the next show.
I could probably afford one little freebie meal tonight,
Yeah. And I probably would have done
that, yeah. So you to stay so dialed in and
I've never seen anybody dial in two AT you're even measuring the
water. I am measuring the water.
Yeah. So if anybody looks, if
anybody's looking for a competitor to dial it in to the
Max, it's got to be you. Appreciate that.
What's crazy, Speaking of guilt, is I had my, my prepped meal and
then I had my you were kind of to crush some ice for me because
there's not any sonics around here that have crushed ice.
But one of my guilty pleasures is a cup of ice.
With a 0 calorie water enhancer, like the stir brand clean water
enhancer squirted in there, my guilty pleasure tonight was I
had a little bit extra of that stir in there and I legitimately
feel guilty about it. So you had twice as much as 0
calorie? Yeah.
So still 0 calorie, Yeah. So.
Who knows, Who knows? But the exciting part for me is
after Worlds, So I got two weeks until Worlds as of today.
I've taken all y'all out to a Brazilian steakhouse, probably
either Fogo de Chao or Texas de Brazil, depending on
locationally. Which one makes more sense?
And I'm going to have one meal in the reverse.
That'll be the start of my reverse.
Technically, that'll be the one meal that is not way down macro
track the tea ad libitum. Eat until I'm full.
So it's going to be all vegetables.
Oh yeah, yeah, all vegetables. Vegan.
Yeah. Vegan.
Yeah. No, it's definitely going to be
all meat. I'll have my brick that day.
I'll bring a break. I'll have that at the restaurant
first before I allow myself, like, while they're getting the
meat ready, I'm going to eat my brick and then I'm going to go
to town on whatever meat I want to.
I don't even know if I want to have anything from the salad
bar, like the cheeses or stuff. I might.
I might not. I'm not sure.
I don't know if I want to have Crystal make a keto dessert.
I may or may not. I'm not sure but.
Definitely gonna eat a ton of meat that night.
It's gonna be good. I'll join you.
Chip. Chip will join us.
Y'all gotta like, give me some competition.
I'm probably not gonna track my food that day.
Oh yeah, just say I wouldn't. I might.
I might fast a bit in the morning that day, have a little
bit of something just to break the fast early afternoon.
Yeah. And then we better bring bibs.
Better bring bibs, but at the end of the day, like having a
massive bolus of meat as opposed to a massive bolus of.
Pizza or something like that. Sugars, candies, carbs.
Like your body is going to respond so much better.
Like when Crystal did her show and she did that, she didn't
even feel bad the next day. She didn't even feel bad the
night of that much. She had a keto dessert then too.
But like, had she done just me? She probably won't feel bad at
all. So I don't know what I'm going
to do with dessert, but yeah, I'm going to go to town on that
meat. It's going to be no questions
asked, but then I'm right back to track him.
Because I want to document this reverse diet and be very
strategic in that. So I think that's key.
So once you finish your competition and you do allow
yourself that free meal or that, I guess more lenient meal, I
shouldn't say free meal. I feel that's the important part
that a lot of people don't jump back on the next morning.
Yeah. Is they just feel like, oh,
well, I had a, you know, crazy meal last night, Maybe I can
have a little crazy breakfast too.
Yeah. When they go to the hotel
breakfast buffet, they load up on that kind of stuff.
It's. A slippery slope, man.
It's a slippery slope. Pretty soon, later in the day,
you're thinking, well, I don't know where I'm at.
I don't know where I stand as far as my macros go today
because I didn't track this morning.
And then pretty soon you're having whatever you want for
dinner and then the next day and it's it is a slippery slope.
So yeah, I've done it. That's what I ended up having
happened to me in 10 years ago. Yeah, and the next week after
that show is Thanksgiving. But I'm tracking on my food
Thanksgiving. Like, I'm gonna have all my food
there. It's going to be dialed in.
I've got, I've got. I promised my crew I'd take him
out to a Brazilian steakhouse when I get back.
So at some point when I get back, I'm going to one more
Brazilian steakhouse. I don't really know what I'm
going to do with that one yet, but it'll be one meal that I may
or may not track. I'm not sure apart from the one
after the show, but that's my only planned deviations at all.
And that's really not that big of a deviation because you're
still going to be choosing the same type of foods that you
would normally choose on track. Yeah.
So you're just not necessarily tracking the quantities?
Yeah, it's all obviously gonna be keto, right?
So your your carbs are still gonna be incredibly low.
Yeah, it's just gonna be protein to fat.
Yeah. And you over eat protein and
what's gonna happen? Yeah, I mean, you over eat fat,
you're gonna have a little bit more energy.
Maybe you just hit the gym with a little bit more intensity the
next day you get. Back into it 100%.
So I'm looking forward to that. It's going to be good.
I'm excited. I'm not going to be eating
crushed ice that day, not going to be eating crushed ice that
day. The form of keto ice cream or
something. Yeah.
All right. So what else we got?
Is there anything else brewing that we want to talk about?
I'm pretty tired right now. Yeah, it's been a long day for
you, I'm sure. What time is it?
Here it is 8. 30 Is it? Is it bad of us to go to bed at
8:30? This is what time I usually go
to bed. Yeah, I'm winding down by 839.
O'clock. I feel like I've been tired
talking throughout this podcast. This is not the normal energy I
bring, but I was super tired when we got back from the show.
Yeah, and I had to make that newsletter and then film all
that content. So I'm dragging right now.
Yeah. Well, you've been hitting it all
day, so. Well, how about we call it end
to the podcast, we pack up and we get some sleep and then we
hit the day strong tomorrow. That's right.
Yep, we're all flying home tomorrow.
We're all flying home tomorrow, man.
Safe flight. Appreciate you being here,
brother. I appreciate the and I'm excited
to see you in Seattle 4 Worlds, man.
Two weeks. People can go where to find you
Keto Greg, 80, on Instagram. Keto Greg 80 on Instagram.
Yep, 80. 80 Yep, I'll link out to that.
Made Easy people to find you and definitely reach out with any
wholesale inquiries or just to get in touch with Greg.
He's an awesome guy. You bet.
Thank you. Appreciate you, Greg.