What's going on? Ladies and gents Robert Sikes
keto Savage.com and I have the one and only John Roth on the
line today. Hey, ninja great, how are you?
I'm great, man, I'm great. So yeah, give the audience a
quick little overview of your bio and kind of what got you in
the key do in the first place. Man.
Sure yeah. So myself and my wife have kind
of been interested in low-carbohydrate kind of Keto
type diets about year and a half now and you know amongst other
things you know what led me to start looking into more of the
Low carbohydrate lifestyle and then that kind of evolved into
more ketogenic type stuff especially for my wife as well.
Was that about three years ago? I got diagnosed with late onset
type 1 diabetes at the age of 36 and so that was a major kind of
Life uproar so to speak. And yeah I've just been kind of
going down the rabbit hole ever since then and regarding, you
know additions to our You know, just the way we go about our
nutrition and adding that into an active lifestyle.
Let's dive into type 1 diabetes, May especially late onset, that
I mean, was there a history of type 1 diabetes, and your family
and that come out of left field? It was completely unexpected to
tell you the truth. I believe my mom's mother had
type 2, but other than that, there wasn't any history of
time. One anywhere else in our in our
family. So it was a complete kind of
shocker for me. And looking back at our family
history, no one that I was able to find in our family, history
had had any any mention of it. So it was very unexpected.
So it was a kind of shocking. We do have some history of some
other more minor, I guess, autoimmune.
In type type diseases, sporadically throughout the
family but nothing in the type. One Camp what I mean had that
hit him either. I can't imagine.
Like somebody that knows me type 1 diabetes.
You know randomly I wouldn't know what to what to do like
with you and your wife sitting there and Doc tells you that,
what's the first thing that comes to your mind?
Like, how do you handle it? yeah you know it was pretty
shocking yet though the way it kind of went was that I had kind
of noticed a pretty significant Decline and in my workouts and
what I was doing and not only in the gym but outside of the gym
and general I guess energy level and I actually lost about almost
20 pounds by the time, I finally made my way into the hospital
and I'm only about 62 in about 170 pounds.
So you take 15, 20 pounds off somebody that's you know, has
that build? You know, it's not good.
And so yeah. I mean, you know, when I finally
did end up going in the fatigue, at gotten to the point where I
had to, of course, call off work and I was slated to go back out
on another trip and my wife kind of said, yeah, you're not just
calling in late for work. You're going to the hospital and
So from there? Yeah we went into an emergency
room and as a said on our work have told the story, it's not
good when they kind of part the waters for you and the emergency
room and you go right back you know.
Yeah. But yeah when we got that news
you know in the emergency room there it was kind of you know a
couple things kind of go come to mind you know one is you know
how is this going to affect you know, my family and my wife.
And followed shortly by? How's this going to affect the
rest of my life, you know, as far as outside of work and
whatnot, you know as it's going to affect you know how I'm able
to be active and the activities I like to to do on my free time
and then lastly are probably thirdly I guess I could say is
yeah how's this going to affect my career?
And I happen to be in a career field where this had a very
profound effect on it. So that was kind of next.
Line what what what career path, right?
So I was a professional, airline pilot and and still function in
a capacity of that. I actually work for our
company's training department. Now training pilots in a non
flight roll so I do everything up to the aircraft training.
So in our simulators and ground training and systems and so on.
But prior to my diagnosis, I was an airline pilot.
And had spent most of my adult / professional career, you know,
leading up to that and as it sits now the Federal Aviation
Administration has that as a disqualifying event.
And by that I mean type are they don't specify type 1 or type 2
diabetes but insulin-dependent diabetic.
Such as a disqualifying event, to hold what's called a first
class medical. And for professional airline
pilots, we have to hold Kind of highest level of medical
certification that the the FAA requires and you don't
necessarily lose your license per se.
If you don't have a medical, but you can't exercise the
Privileges of that commercial airline pilot certificate
without a medical. So in effect you you lose your
license. So so it's kind of crazy man.
Like a lot of people they get diagnosed, they want to improve
their health and in that I mean that's That said, you know,
obviously noteworthy going itself but here that you are,
you know, being faced with a decision that your career path
is about to change. Whereas most people, probably
don't experience, you know that degree of change with when their
health kind of goes south but you're basically just they took
your wings away. Yeah, it's exactly what
happened. You know.
I'm sitting there and, you know, in a hospital bed in the ICU and
I'm reading that right on the fa a--'s website, where it's a
disqualifying event and, you know, you just, you know, see
your You know, see part of your career that you spent the better
part of 20 years to acquire and thousands of hours in the air,
just kind of evaporate front of your eyes.
It's definitely, it's a shocker what?
I mean, I did you get depressed about for that?
I mean I can't like for me personally I can't imagine you
know putting forth 20 years of my life to work towards
something to build a foundation for my family and my future and
then all of a sudden just have that stripped from me and not
really I mean you don't really Plan for that.
Obviously it's like I mean, how does that affect you?
Well I mean it definitely. Yeah you know it's one of those
things we you always have in the back of your mind you know I
guess as a pilot that you there is a possibility that something
could occur and you could potentially lose your license or
lose your medical more specifically.
But you know being a fairly young fit, you know, person who
had been you know into various Sports and nutrition and
Athletics your whole life, you know, you don't it's the old you
know, you don't think it's going to happen to you.
So you know, when it when it does, you know.
Yeah, I mean it hits you hard but I guess what I did have to
kind of focus on is that You know, I started to think about
well you know, this is going to have a massive effect on my
career for now and but you know I started to look more towards.
What do I have? You know, and you know, I
didn't. I mean I was going in quite
frankly, I wouldn't have been shocked if they told me I had
some sort of, you know, stage 4 cancer, because I felt so bad,
you know, and I said, well, you know, it could have been worse
and I just tried to look at the things that I was thankful for,
you know, I had, you know, caring family and a loving wife
and you know as long as I could learn how to treat and or
control the disease, I could still do all the other things
that I wanted to do. And, you know, I just tried to
look beyond the wasp and look more at where can I go from
here? And how can I overcome it?
As I was like, the best way in the only way to look at it man.
I mean It is what it is and you have the decision to make of,
you know, what are you going to do with that information?
Right. Yeah, so you know and that kind
of goes into, you know, a lot of What's led me down, the path of
being becoming more, I guess, refined and nutrition and and
kind of going down the path of learning and studying in the low
carb and ketogenic type Lifestyles and habits and
applying that towards diabetic management or control.
And You know, it's just a matter of, you know, you going beyond
beyond that and taking initiative, you know, which is
kind of a sidebar for the Navy, another portion of the, of the
interview. But, you know, I mean, it's just
kind, you have to ask yourself, you know, how do you overcome
this? And, you know, take it upon
yourself to motivate and move Beyond it.
You know what I mean. How many kids do you have?
You said, We don't have any, we got, we got two little beasties
running around here, but they're furry ones, you know, very much
and your wife and how old are you.
Don't mind me asking. So, I'm 39 now, just coming up.
I got a few more months until I hit the big 40 40 and you were
diagnosed at what age and how long ago was that 36.
So yeah, I just just coming up on three years, four years.
And so, what I mean, kind of been doing what you've been
doing for the past 34 years? I mean, you Date in the aviation
industry. Do you like, what's the what's
the hope for being able to fly again?
Because they're going to be a change in regulation or what
your thoughts there? Yeah, it's it's kind of a pretty
not, I want to save a subject but it's pretty involved and,
you know, kind of a rundown of it.
Is that about a year and a half ago, I was able to get my third
class medical back, which is the lowest of, there's a third of
second and the first class Third Class, Medical allows me to
exercise privileges as a Private Pilot.
So basically fly with fly basically.
Most aircraft that are is not for hire.
So just as a private citizen I can take up friends family that
kind of stuff, right? Aircraft fly privately.
So that was nice. You know that allowed me to get
back in the air and that regard flying smaller airplanes from
time to time. But you know basically after I'd
say about the first six months or so maybe a year, I started to
get a little bit more heavily involved with You know, working
with a service, that is the medical arm, I guess of the Air
Line Pilots Association to start some advocacy and then some
applications to try and get my medical back.
Because in 2015, they actually change the regulations and that
it's not explicitly prohibited that you can't have a medical as
a type 1 diabetic or insulin-dependent diabetic,
which You can get to kind of the difference between the two here
in a bit, but it just says that you have to have what's called a
special issuance, where you submit various medical
documentation, they review it and then determine whether or
not it's safe for you to fly with that particular condition.
And there's quite a bit of that, that happens, you know, for
various folks because as we all know, the human body, as best as
we try is not, you know, a Flawless machine and sometimes
we have to have, you know, corrections to it.
So there's the ability to get it back.
It's just what's been happening is that they've kind of been
stonewalling everybody that has insulin-dependent diabetes where
they've neither approve nor denied, but they haven't listed
any reason for that lack of issuance.
And so we've been advocating to make progress on that.
And everyone, I've talked to their heads, you know, positions
are flight surgeons that are the ones that basically do your
medical application process for you are very positive and that
they feel like it's it's going to happen.
It's just any time you're dealing with a government
institution, its moves at a glacial pace so that can be
frustrating. So it's just again like a lot of
things, you know? If it's something that you
really Value. And you want to go after for not
only yourself but I feel like this is something that's going
to be a positive advancement for others, you know.
Like if you go down and you know it's talk to kids or other folks
that are maybe you know might have aspirations of being a
pilot. You know you want to you want to
give them that that you hope I guess of saying yeah you can do
this if you put your mind to it you know and you don't want, you
know, being a pilot to be the one thing.
That's you know you go down to JDRF and say sorry kids, you
know? Yeah the whole pilot thing you
can't do that because you have to take your medicine with a
syringe instead of a pill, you know, it's crazy man.
Like I you know for me in my perspective you know I work with
people like my clients they want to improve their health people,
reject me and they want to lose weight or they want to improve
their composition or their desert improve their health from
like a diabetic standpoint can stabilize your blood sugar and
Insulin but I'd never thought of it.
In terms of you know here you are.
You're doing everything right? You know, you're not overweight.
Yeah, you just type 1 late onset type 1 diabetic and yet your
career path is totally turned on its head, which is affecting
your family and your future. And I don't know man like that.
It really resonates with me because it makes it makes keto,
but not just keto, the implications of this as a whole,
so much more. I don't know.
So much more crucial and just import Ardent for people to kind
of be mindful of and strive to improve on.
Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, I totally agree
with that and that I guess getting back to the diabetes
side of things, you know, depending on, I've done a few
podcast with more or with podcasts that are more geared
towards diabetes or diabetics. So I you know if it's all right
with you I can take a second to kind of explain the difference
between type 1 and type 2 diabetes if you'd like.
Yeah yeah definitely. Mainly get dive into the Weeds
on then. So You know, as a summary type 1
diabetics, basically lose the ability of their pancreatic
cells, more specific beta cells in their pancreas.
Their own immune system, attacks those cells, as if they were
something foreign and attacks and kills those cells in the
pancreas, that produce insulin. So a type 1 diabetic loses the
ability to produce any insulin so without exoticness or
exterior. Then in effect, you would
eventually lose the ability to absorb any energy whether it was
glucose or even, you know, eventually Ketone bodies would
build up to the point where they become toxic.
So you lose the ability to really absorb energy that your
body would produce and eventually you would die.
And that would be a rather quick process like if I stop taking my
insulin and had no access to Salon I would probably be dead
within four days to seven days. So you know, you literally do
not make any insulin whatsoever so you have to take it yourself
when you went to the doctor. Did they draw your Labs?
That what we are numbered new member?
Yeah, I do so normal blood sugar values for an adult.
Now, you know there's another conversation.
There is what's the average American blood sugar?
I don't know. But Well, I do, but there's some
averages there. But a normal what's considered
to be a healthy blood sugar. For an adult is somewhere
between 70 milligrams per deciliter and the upper end
would be. This is fasting, 99 milligrams
per deciliter, so Mine by comparison, when I finally made
my way to the hospital. The first finger stick, they
took in the waiting room in the ER, most of the portable blood
glucose meters. They don't read, once they get
Beyond either 400 or 450 in most cases, they just say hi.
So that one said hi, in which case they're like, okay, you're
going in back and I talked to the doctor later on after they
kind of stabilize things. And the reading they got was
794, I believe. So it's creating me.
Yeah. And what was going on there was,
I was kind of teetering on the edge of what's called diabetic
ketoacidosis. Ptosis where you know your your
Ketone levels and your blood sugar levels are simultaneously
extremely high and it makes your blood and some of the other you
know portions of the body extremely acidic and it becomes
very toxic. And then also it puts you into a
pretty profound state of electrolyte imbalance and that's
actually what can ultimately kill you because it Organ
failure. And yeah, so it's a slippery
slope and it is not caught, usually what ends up killing
folks from my understanding when they're in dka, is that extreme
electrolyte and fluid imbalance. And that just basically puts
them into organ failure. Because you were, you were doing
the low-carb. Kind of /, keto prior to go to
the doctor. So you were producing, you know,
heighten the blue ketones anyways and your body would just
you know shuttling that blood glucose but it did anywhere to
go that's true prior to being diagnosed with diabetes.
I was very active, very did a lot of Endurance, Sports and
weight training and so on. But I wasn't at, you know, as
far down, you know, low carb, anywhere near actually that I
am. Now, a matter of fact, I could,
I was kind of getting away with the standard athletes diet.
Where, because, you know, I had Pretty good body composition and
I was really active and I did a lot of mountain biking and
endurance activities. I was still eating.
I think we're gluten-free at the time.
We didn't eat gluten, but definitely, I mean, I wouldn't
say I was eating anywhere near the amount of carbohydrates that
would be considered standard American diet, but I definitely
would not say that. I was low card at low-carb at
that time, but even if I was going back to the physiology of
Diabetes Type 1, I should Even if you are fully kitted genic,
you would still find yourself in very bad shape and a matter of
days. I mean, you could potentially
prolong it by being ketogenic but to what end, I don't know.
There's no data on that. Really not.
Not a good place to be either way though, correct?
Yeah. Definitely.
Not some place you want to find yourself and then I guess, In
back over to type 2 diabetes which is a lot more prevalent.
That is more of a disease that people like dr.
Jason Fang and you know even what dr.
Brett sheer I believe you had them on one of your shows as
well. Yep.
And some other enter canalla gist that are also Savvy on low
carb, diets and ketogenic diets. You know, they'll call type 2
diabetes. A lot of times, it's thought of
as a disease of high blood sugar which is not incorrect, but more
specifically, it's shown to be a disease of what's called
hyperinsulinemia where you have such high levels of insulin in
your body that your body has become insulin resistant.
So the cells in your body are no longer responding as well to the
insulin that your body does produce.
And so what happens is Is because of that insulin
resistant that super high level of insulin in your body and
insulin resistance that you're no longer able to produce enough
insulin to kind of force out all of the glucose that's in your
blood and then. So what happens is that it just
stays kind of suspended in the blood if you want to think of it
that way. And so yes, you do have elevated
blood sugar values, but it's a by-product of hyperinsulinemia
which Is then caught or it's really caused by the onslaught
of high carbohydrates sugars. All the stuff that has become,
unfortunately a staple and a lot of our modern, you know, food
and diet practices. Yeah, and they look like the
current medical practices lows type. 2 diabetics are just
giving more insulin. Exactly what.
Exactly. I mean, it just, I can't even
begin to Fathom how crazy that is.
The concept of it, just basically killed him that much
faster. ER, Well, you're absolutely
right. It does and it's actually
exacerbates that insulin resistance and so, unfortunately
what happens and this can happen to of type ones is that as you
become more and more insulin resistant, you have to have more
and more insulin and it's a really Vicious Circle where as
you have more insulin, you know, that's a as you know, that's a
growth and or a storage hormone. And so that causes, you know,
hunger and then the hunger you eat more and if you're eating
the wrong stuff then you need more insulin and it's a really,
it's a very negative feedback loop there.
And you know eventually what happens is no matter how much
insulin you take and how strong the insulin is, you can't
maintain normal blood sugar values and ultimately what ends
up. Now, some of this is opinion and
there might be some people yelling on the other end of the
speaker, but ultimately diabetes doesn't.
It doesn't really kill anybody. It's the complications from
diabetes that ends up killing folks, as far as coronary artery
disease, different types of dementia, other diseases that
are called for their caused from glycation of the cells in the
body, like neuropathy, you know, peripheral neuropathy.
That's causes a lot of times the amputations that you see and
then people get infections from the amputations and then that
ends up Infection ends up killing them, or they get
retinopathy, which is where they lose their sight from the again,
the inflammation in the, in the eyes and the vascular structures
around the eyes, you know, liver failure.
I'm sure you may have heard of sometimes people who have not
controlled their diabetes. Well, ending up on dialysis, you
know, because they're, you know, kidneys as have gone.
And I mean, there's just this laundry list of just horrendous
things that you could potentially die from.
But that's a cause of the high blood glucose or blood sugar
values causing long-term damage and it can be very Insidious.
You know, it's a lot of times it's not something that's going
to happen in one or five or sometimes, even 10 years, it's
stuff that comes up. You know, over the course of 10
to 20 years, which, you know, goes back to normal Health,
which is, you know, I sometimes when folks come to me and ask me
for either advice or some tips or whatever on diet nutrition
and you get into that conversation of like sometimes
eating healthy, folks say well it's expensive and it's not
convenient and all this kind of stuff.
And I just say, man, you're talking about your health man.
You know, if you go cheap on your food, you know, Going to
pay, believe me, you're going to pay, but it's not going to be in
food. It's going to be a medical
bills, you know. Yeah.
It's a it honestly blows my mind man.
Like when I first started lifting and getting into
training you know you're always told you know it's equal, parts
nutrition and training but I was young and dumb and thought I
could get away with it. So pretty much just focus on the
training and gave like nutrition was an afterthought.
Now I've totally flip that on its head and I focus so much
more nutrition and And I look at people at my whole family, come,
I mean, we're from the south, you know, we grow, we grew up
eating, you know, Grandma's baking and just not optimal
Foods by any means tasty foods, but not optimal.
And I look at my my relatives, I look at my family, I look at my
parents even my brother and they're just eating foods that
are not going to yield a long-term, you know, positive
result on their body. And I mean, I've had older
relatives that have been Dialysis and died.
I've been to funerals Burying my own relatives that you know had
these implications that I didn't even realize what was causing it
at the time. But now that I've kind of been
enlightened as to what all this inner working is and kind of
nutrition comes into play. It's like I would be doing a
disservice to my family, my friends, in the world.
If I didn't try and make this more known because it's such an
obvious fix that that people just don't realize.
Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with you fully and you know, which is
one of the things that kind of motivated me to start emailing
and maybe getting in contact or getting into contact with some
folks of the podcast that I listen to that.
I feel like have a good message and good information and, you
know, seem like solid folks like yourself to again, try and, you
know, just like you said, share that information and try and get
that information. Mason out there.
Because like on your show, it's not geared towards diabetics,
but maybe somebody here is this that either with is a diabetic
and has been thinking about it. And like I do, you know?
I because I guarantee you man there endocrinologist is going
to tell them, they're going to die.
If they do it. Kia, Jack diet, or it's going to
be extremely dangerous and they're going to scare the crap
out of them. But you know, I'm here to say
that it works and it can work very well and very safely and it
will have a profoundly positive effect on your health and your
or in your control, you know. And I just want to get that word
out there to try and help folks, you know, and you know, like
even just this morning on that note, you know, I was at the gym
and I saw this girl probably on her mid-20s or so.
And she had this thing called Omni pod, which is a, it's a
type of insulin delivery system where it's like, this little
like Apple watch size type thing, that contains insulin and
it injects it as needed and it kind of sticks.
To wherever you, put it on your body and it has a little
subcutaneous thing that goes underneath your skin.
Just keep it in layman's terms. So I saw that and I was like, oh
yeah, are you type one? She's like, yeah, I just got
this, you know, and, you know, working on getting my, you know,
my blood sugar values and better control and, you know, but this
is new and like she has this other thing called a car is
getting, what's what I wear, and have used for a long time, it's
a continuous glucose monitor, where it takes a glucose
measurement every five minutes, so you can see Trends and Adjust
as necessary and gives you a much better tool to control your
blood sugar. But you know, she had some
questions on that and she's like yeah, you know, my my hba1c
these are in the nines but I want to work on getting them
down which again for the normal listeners, you know, a normal
blood sugar hba1c which is a three months, three month
average of your blood glucose should be somewhere between four
point five and maybe five point four would be considered normal.
And so 9 is almost double normal.
So I was like, yeah, you know, I've been doing this for three
years and, you know, use a lot of nutrition and diet to help
and you know, I don't use a punk myself.
Actually do what's called multiple daily injections,
because I don't really want something connected to me, and
with a ketogenic or a low-carb diet, it's completely possible
to have very good control with Injections instead of a pump but
that again, nutritions at Key facet to that.
So I started talking to her about that.
She was like, getting really excited like oh man, you know,
like I didn't know you could do that and you know, like just try
and give her some information, I gave her, you know, my name and
number and said hey you know, as you're going through this, you
know if you have any questions you know not a medical
professional by any means but you know I've got some real
world experience has put a lot of time into study and research
and you know, Pulling on my my, you know, minor that I got in
Sports Nutrition and Physiology back in the day, you know, I'll
do my best to help you, you know?
And maybe I can help you shortcut something by a month
or, you know, say, Hey try this. And, you know, I found this by
trial and error and try and help help them out, you know, and
maybe going on podcast. People will hear that and say,
oh man, you know, I'm going to start looking at this more as
well, you know. Yeah, absolutely man, that's
100% the right way to look. And that's the beauty.
E of this, you know, nutritional community in the first place.
I mean like, if you see that, you know, mid twenty year old
girl, that's this, you know, getting on type 1 diabetic and
just that's becoming her life to Lifestyle.
Now, if you can, you know, short circuit heard, you know, mishaps
and just kind of make this easier transition for, like,
that's going to be life-changing for, you know, she's gonna
remember you and that conversation long after you've
forgotten it because you've had such a profound impact on her
and for us to be able to do it at scale and help more people at
one time. It's just, it's just, it's just
exciting, man. It's motivating.
Yeah. And you know, the and as you're
saying with your family, kind of going back to that, you know, as
I'm sure you've experienced, you know, they always say trying to
sometimes help in the your family and your loved ones, the
ones closest to you is the hardest feet. 100% man.
Like it's yeah, I mean are you are you kind of strung with
that? Like if you talk to family
members that don't know what you're doing and don't
understand it and don't support it.
I wouldn't say that there's ones that Don't support it, you know,
my wife you know she's definitely on board with it.
And that's a massive, you know, help and or is you know, it
helps because it's just the two of us and then I mean heck man I
could even go as far as to say that our dogs are on keto
because we feed them you know high protein high fat you know
no grain no Karma are low carbohydrate dog food and
they're you know they're 13 14 and they act like puppies, you
know. So it doesn't just apply to
people but Going back to the family thing, you know, you
know, my parents, they were more traditional, you know, and it's
not that they didn't support it, they just didn't understand it,
you know, because it is, it completely bucks that tradition,
you know, because I grew up in East Tennessee, actually some
kind of Southern boy myself. But, you know, it goes against
that tradition, you know, and my both, my parents are very well
educated, but, you know, you're going against years and years
and years and years, a Dogma. You know, saying and you know,
they bought into Hook Line and Sinker, the push of low-fat
everything back in the 80s and early 90s.
So, you know, when I show up and I'm like, now I'm wrong.
I have four eggs, put some bacon bits in there and I'm going to
eat an avocado and I might put some cheese on that one at it,
you know, it's he's like man, your cholesterol is going to go
through the roof Jon Boat because my mom was a an open
heart cardiac nurse, you know, so she's very attuned to it and
we've had Disease in our family and all that and my dad, you
know, he had a open heart surgery, you know, back in the
late 80s and they're all like, oh, your cholesterol, your
cholesterol. I'm like, no Mom.
It doesn't work like that. Let me tell you about it.
And, you know, finally, about six, it's been about almost six
months. Now, you know, my mom said,
well, you know, I mean, John's doing pretty good, you know, he
seems really healthy and its really helping them, you know,
keep his diabetes that, you know, non-diabetic levels, if I
were To pull blood work and turn it into the FAA and I didn't
self disclose that. I was a diabetic, they would
never know because ever. All, my blood values are well
within functional healthy normal.
And I showed her this and my mom, here's my lipid panel, you
know, you know, how to read this, look at this, and she's
like, oh my gosh, you know, your cholesterol is, you know, just
below 200 and your, you know, HDL is way up in your
triglycerides are at 35 and, you know, your LDL is that has good
range. She's like these are amazing and
she's Like what you eat, all this fat, and all this, you
know, all this crazy stuff I'm like, yeah, I know Mom.
But it's, it's the, the sugars and the grains and the
inflammation and all that other stuff.
That's, that's the problem. It's not, it's not the healthy
fats and a well-formulated Diet, you know?
Yeah, yeah. I totally agree.
I found that the hardest barrier to kind of cross with, you know,
like my parents generation, your parents generation is like they
are starting to hear about it. They want to experiment with it,
they may be read it. Blog post about it, read
something on the news about it and then they dabble in it, but
they want they wind up, doing is they don't go all in.
So they still wind up eating a ton of carbohydrates, they don't
even realize they're eating and they want him doing themselves,
more harm than good because now, they're getting high carbs in
high fat. Yeah, absolutely.
I mean that, that's yeah, that's a key portion as well to, you
know. And, you know, people I talk
about it to our tell about it and, you know, work with them
and stuff. You know, I tell them, That's
absolutely crucial. Is that you find a good source
to kind of explain the low carbohydrate /, ketogenic diet
thoroughly and research it. So you understand what it is
that you're really doing so that you can do things like not just
read the nutrition label because as most of us know that gone
down this road, they're far from truthful, I mean there's there's
a twenty percent error Factor that's allowed by the The FDA,
plus the fact that they can do stuff like, say, well, you know,
there's zero, net carbs, but then you look at it and there's,
you know, all these sugar alcohols and all kinds of other
wild stuff in there. But, you know, you got to read
the ingredients, you know, and say, oh look, you know, tapioca
starch that's sugar. Brown rice flour, that's sugar,
you know, like, you know, reading all this stuff and
recognizing like, oh man, you know, like this thing's hiding a
lot of stuff that like you said, it's hidden carbohydrates.
Which from a diabetes standpoint, you know,
carbohydrates is sugar. Because quite honestly once you
start digesting it, your liver done, know the difference and
neither does your blog blood sugar?
Yeah, I would argue. That's the case even if you're
not a diabetic. So it is, it absolutely is.
I mean, matter of fact, there's a can't remember the medical
term for it, but that I researched and your body like
for non-diabetic your body, like the instant, you smell
something. That in your body kind of has
that trigger that it thinks it's about to eat or consume food.
It actually starts releasing insulin before food even touches
your mouth you know. And yeah so you know and
unfortunately you know food companies and you know the the
hyper palatable foods and you know, I mean they're kind of
hijacking that and they know that it happens and you know,
yeah, I mean you're already started on that insulin train
before you even put anything in your mouth.
Then I mean, they they've done things where clinical standpoint
research standpoint. I read this one PubMed article,
where they literally had, folks eat kind of like foamy kind of
chunks of something. It basically, it was non-edible,
it was, it wouldn't digest, but it also wouldn't cause their
intestines to get all jacked up, or clogged.
I should say. That's not very technical term,
but and measured their insulin levels.
And they literally ate these like phone, I'm non-digestible,
you know, almost like Little Rock's and they had this
significant increase in insulin secretion and it was it had
there was no nutrients in it whatsoever.
Nor would it break down but yet their insulin went up.
So there's some really interesting stuff out there
regarding that for sure. Yeah that's a huge reason why
I'm an advocate for counting total carbs, opposed to net
carbs. I mean you can get away with all
kinds of, you know, sugar alcohols that don't technically
qualify as net carbohydrates, but they're having a Profound
impact on your insulin levels. Oh yeah.
It's massive. You know and I mean you know
you're a gem guy as well too. And I mean, you know, I go to
one of the big box gyms. I probably shouldn't say it over
the air, but I'm sure you can imagine.
I mean, they've got the the wall of desserts is what I call them.
I mean it's is their color scheme purple.
No, that one's next in line because that one's out by my
work that I go out to that one. They have.
What do they do? They do.
Like Bagel morning. On Tuesdays with a gold and
cream cheese. Yeah, I know that one.
This one has a more of a blue red color scheme with a number
24 in it. Okay.
Yeah. They get out and you know that
so you know they have that whole, you know, supplement sex
and then they have the coolers with all the supplement drinks
in there and everything. And I guarantee you there is
besides, the water bottles. There is Single one of those
things that don't have some Preposterous amount of sugar and
carbohydrates in them, you know. And that's just, you know,
that's the culture that we're kind of bucking against, you
know, and it's not because people are dumb or, you know,
we're better than them or anything like that.
It's just because you know, they just don't know and I didn't
know for a long time myself. I'm not going to make it out to
be like, you know, on this benevolent, you know, Super
Nutrition guy, that's known this since I was 4.
I mean, I certainly played into that myself for a long Time to
and oh, yeah, me, yeah, they're marketed to that.
I mean, it's just what what you see as reality.
And like I said, supplements, I mean, they they know how to
Market to people to, you know, play on their emotions.
I mean, some of the supplements that are marketed as keto even
or the farthest thing from Quito.
Oh yeah. Because, you know,
unfortunately, it's just like gluten free, you know, the
industry is latched onto it. They know they can sell it and
they're going to try and capitalize on it.
And if you the Zoomer. Don't take the initiative to
educate yourself. You know, you could find
yourself almost into a worse situation than before, because
here you are thinking you're doing something good when.
In fact, it's not it's actually detrimental to your health or
your, in my case, diabetes control, or whatever it is.
You know, I use the eye called The Quest Bar analogy, you know,
people see. Oh yeah.
Quest Bar. You know, it's got good protein
to net. Garnett grams of carbohydrates.
You turn that thing over. First of all, read the
ingredients. List and you can find sugar in
it and second of all if you look at even their nutrition label
which they're allowed to have some error on, it says right on
the back I think they have 22 or 24 grams of carbohydrates.
Yeah. And 18 of it is sugar alcohols
and then they put a bunch of fiber in there so then they can
cut it down on that net carbohydrates.
So it's just what you're talking about as a diabetic that has a
continuous glucose. Meter, I can tell you right now,
net carbohydrates is a bunch of Mmm.
Yeah, no, I'm really glad to say that man because that's, that's
honestly, one of the big pitfalls and kind of like, I
don't know, stumbling blocks of Quito as a whole people.
I don't know where the whole adage of only count net carbs
came from. I don't know where this whole,
you know, as long as you keep net carbs under 50 grams a day,
you're good. I mean, people can have 50 grams
of net carbs hundred grams total carbs and they're not even in
ketosis. But yeah, it's it's sad because
you know, Except people are playing on this.
It's hugely important to read the ingredient list and not just
a nutritional label. I read every ingredient list.
I don't, I don't just look at them Tricia label because like
you said, there's that huge margin of error there and I
think companies are required to disclose all the ingredients
even if they don't they are the FDA does require them to.
They must list all the ingredients namely that the
derivative of that is for allergen information in
liability because there was a massive Lawsuit about 40 years
ago where they didn't disclose the fact that they used, I
believe it was peanut oil. And unfortunately, guess what?
Some kid had to die before they passed the law.
Yeah, yeah and see that's, you know, it's unfortunate that
that's, it's good that they just close everything now because if
you know, what these ingredients are, you'll know what they're
derived from and kind of like what effect they may have on the
body. Because, I mean, there's I don't
know where like 40 or 50 different names for sugar.
So yeah, yeah. I mean being being Savvy to that
and knowing what you're actually consuming is hugely
advantageous. Oh yeah I mean it's Paramount if
you're really interested in honing in on it you know, and
kind of getting back to the self-education.
You know, I tell people that, you know, there's a couple of
good books that that I recommend people read if they're
interested in going down this path and, you know, your your
podcast is included in some of the the podcast I recommend.
And, you know, I tell them I'm like, How to read the whole
book, you know, and that's just a means of saying you gotta
don't just read the first chapter and be like all right so
I can eat a whole ton of fat and tone.
Oh you know this and that, and I'm good to go.
It's like no, no, like there's there's a lot more to it and you
don't want to overcomplicate it, but at the same time you also,
like you said, you don't want people going down the wrong road
where then they don't, they unknowingly are almost like
pardon the pun but They're super sizing, the standard American
diet, where now they just increased their fat and
sometimes their protein and they still have carbohydrates in
there. So it's just going to be a holy
nightmare, you know. I agree.
And then might be like a, you know, like a transition period
like it's pretty typical for people to want to incorporate
all the, you know, the pseudo car males, like the keto
cheesecakes and Aikido cookies, all that stuff.
And if that if that shortens the, the learning curve, If that
kind of just ensures that you wind up, getting into ketosis
and kind of following that lifestyle, you know, I think
that's good. You know, I think if that kind
of bridges the Gap and it just gets people moving the right
direction. That's a positive thing, but you
no longer in the diet and lifestyle, generally speaking,
the more you want to refine it and optimize it because you
realize how much better you feel.
And then that leads to removing a lot of those pseudo carbonyls
and you just you can tell the difference.
And once you tell a difference, it's easy to say no to him.
Oh yeah. Absolutely.
I mean you know that's another thing that you've had multiple
guest on to cover it Greater detail and, you know, articulate
it better than I can. But yeah, as you know I mean you
know the carbs and sugars are highly addictive and you know
once you kind of can get that out of your system and get that
you know I'm out of your palate so to speak, you know, people
say oh man you know this this diet seems like it's really
restrictive and I can't have this and I can't have that.
I'm like yeah but look at all the things you And have man.
I mean the food is freaking delicious man.
You know, I mean fat is where flavor really is?
100%? 100%.
Well, yeah. And you know, once you kind of
get that that taste or that craving out of your system,
which really only takes a couple of weeks to be quite honest with
you, at least for me, you know. Yeah.
Like you said, you lose a taste for it.
I see it all the time at work, man.
I mean, you know, and those folks that do go into a regular
our office job or maybe have, you know, a normal work place
that they go to that. They don't necessarily, you
know, work from home or something like that or if you
are fortunate enough to own their own business, you know I
mean it's like it looks like a freaking three-year-olds
birthday party. You know, half half the days of
the week where I go because it's always somebody's birthday.
It's always somebody's you know anniversary it's always
somebody's kid you know or they just had a kid or you know and
there's like you know, pizza and tacos and cake.
And chips and you know all kinds of just it's ridiculous man.
Like I went in the other day and I kid you not right in the
middle of there. Here's what somebody's birthday
thing was there was a big giant sheet cake and you know what?
They had to drink not milk. No no.
They had Sunny D. I'm like, are you kidding me?
Yeah. It's I'm like, are we adults
here? Like, we're the two-year-olds
and even the tour old shouldn't be eating this.
You know, I'm like what in the world?
Yeah, that's why I it's such. You know, it all comes back to
having sub this when there's the Stars Are Never Gonna line, you
know, you never going to be faced with like the perfect
scenario to get on the diet and start the lifestyle and make it
work for you. There's always going to be that
distraction but you gotta once I mean you're wise got to be more
important in bigger than that sheet cake and so needy, you
know, and if you have that Outlook from the onset and then
you can succeed with it. If you don't then you're just
going to be met by failure and failure again and that's just
going to be discouraging. Mmm.
Yeah. Lutely, you know.
And, and you know, that's, you know what?
Yeah, as you talked about before and, you know, people say well,
how do I get started? I'm like, well, I mean, you
know, start with start with the smallest thing you can, which
is, yeah, I usually will tell people.
Hey, if you can start off with removing as many processed foods
as you can, you know, just highly processed, highly
refined, you know, Foods as possible.
You know, that would get you at least.
Kind of going in that direction as far as looking at food labels
and looking at what's in your meal and maybe even doing some
more cooking and you know, put being more mindful of what
you're actually putting in your body, you know.
And then after you get going on that then say, okay let's start
looking at how many carbs are in this?
How much sugar is in this and say?
Oh, you know, that is beyond a certain threshold, then I
probably shouldn't eat that and maybe replace it with something
else and then, you know, start honing in more and more to a
finer point to the point where now you do have a An
understanding of the diet and, and so on and the nutrition
that's required. And I just kind of go from there
small steps, you know, and then as far as meals, you know, if
you happen to be somebody that's you know that maybe does three
meals a day you know and but then you snack in between I'm
like alright well start off with just you know do your three
meals a day but then get rid of the snacks and then improve
those three meals say if you have you know a car behind a
carb heavy breakfast. Just So, you know what?
I'm going to start, you know, eating some, some eggs and
sausage and, you know, leaving out all that other bread and
pastries and whatever else or, you know, get away from cereal
and all the crazy yogurts that have tons of sugar in them and
just start there. And then, like, okay, so do
that, maybe for a few days and then say, oh you know what, I'm
also going to fix my lunch and then then you can work on
dinner. So there's a tons that there's
hundreds of different ways to get into it, as, you know, but,
you know, start somewhere. Start just, that's all you have
to do is It's crazy to me that that people aren't initially.
Motivated simply for the sole reason of knowing their body
more. I mean like with me being
adapted, you know for years tricky do like I can eat, you
know four ounces of an avocado and I could tell you exactly how
and when my body is going to respond and my senses of just
they just heightened to a whole nother level.
I mean, I'm so in tune with my body.
You know, needs requires responds and reacts to and that
is that, that is power. You know, that is power at my
fingertips. I know how I'm going to feel
three days from now before I even get there and people go
through life, you know, they have a stomach ache today.
They have like digestive problems.
They didn't feel good yesterday. Everything's just had a flux.
You don't know, you have to plan your day around how you feel.
I know how I'm gonna feel. I'm going to feel great and I
can tweak things to feel a certain way like that and alone
to me is enough motivation to want to become.
More in tune with your body and you become more in tune with
your body by. You know, tweaking one small
thing at a time. But then, just introducing
Quality Foods, like sugar desensitizes, everything like
you can't like you. Seriously, like it, it skews
your hunger hormones. Excuse instant response.
Obviously like you're hungrier than you actually are in your
body needs to be and you're just really out of touch with what
your body's demands are. But when you switch over to
aikido and you're eating quality Whole Foods, I mean I've become
like my flavors. A ver centers have become
enhance. Like I'm a freaking connoisseurs
of 100% dark chocolate and I could tell you exactly the
different types and flavors of dark chocolate and like I would
never been able to do that before.
Oh yeah, man, you can get a whiff of it.
You're like, oh we got over there, you know, the dark
chocolate. Yeah, exactly.
Good stuff man. That sounds smells like the 98%.
All right. Well, you know, that's still
pretty good. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I mean exactly what you're saying there as far as I'm sure
you've heard this before and I hear quite frequently as you
start talking about nutrition and the advantages to it and you
know why you do it and for health and feeling better and
just all the things you just listed off as far as being in
tune with how you are and all the positive health, feedbacks
or lifestyle, feedbacks as well. But then you know some people's
reply to that is like oh well you know it doesn't really
bother me, you know like don't really bother me like, you know,
I don't Early notice anything or, you know, even like, you
know, gluten and Grains and all that kind of stuff.
Oh no, it doesn't bother me really well.
How do you know, if you never tried it?
You know, I always challenge people on like Not challenge,
that sounds abrasive but I say hey man you know just you know
if you if you you know want Just for kicks man.
Try it for a couple weeks, maybe even 30 days if you really want
to get crazy and I guarantee you you will not it'll blow your
mind how good you feel, you know, blow your mind and then
you'll realize like holy crap, like that did bother me.
You know, it's kind of one of those things were you know, the
old scientific analogy of the Frog and water.
You know. You put a frog in warm water and
heat it up, it will boil itself to death, but if you Chuck it in
boiling water, it jumps right out, you know, I mean,
nutritions, That's an apt a good analogy that I like to use is
that man if you've been used to poor nutrition and just
bombarding your body for all these years you know you don't
even you lose touch of saying oh man you know I was on the can
half this morning because at last night I went out and took
down all those beer and chicken wings last night, you know?
Yeah. And you know of course that's
another facet to you know like with what would become as a
society were you know. You know, people and I don't
mean to bag on folks that need medication because some people
truly need them and they have to have them myself included for,
you know, my diabetes but, you know, we've become a culture of,
you know, pills and procedures. And unfortunately, there's a lot
of Physicians and that's all they know because that's all
they were trained. When they were in medical
school. They were, they didn't have time
to learn nutrition because they were too tied up with trying to,
you know, learn how to Save lives on the acute Spectrum, not
the 20-year Spectrum, you know. Yeah.
Absolutely. It's not their fault and I don't
blame them for it, I don't think there's a doctor out there,
that's, you know, a good moral standing, that's maliciously
doing this, but there's a lot of them that are not informed and
because they must comply with clinical standards standards of
care or whatever else, it might be.
They can't recommend or they don't know to recommend changes
in health and you know and us as a society you know we're okay
with that. It's kind of like going back to
the beer and chicken wings. I mean you know when's the last
time you saw his Zantac or a Prilosec OTC commercial where
they're sitting there slamming burritos and chicken wings and I
like just take this pill and then you don't have heartburn
it's like or you could not eat the Flaming burrito that you
just scarfed down, you know? Yeah, it's a I don't know, man,
like people. It's very, very short-sighted
with it, with people's way of thinking, when it comes to
things like this, and I don't know, I play the long game with
with everything I do in life, every single thing.
I look at it from a long-term perspective and people not keto
a lot because they say, oh, it's too restrictive.
It's too limiting, the best diets, the one that you can
sustain, you know, for, for a lifetime.
And it, I look at those arguments and I look around the
item like this is going to be the easiest out in the world to
sustain for a lifetime because I'm not motivated do any other
diet, right. I mean My I want the long-term
health and honestly the short-term Health to that, I get
from this, that would not be there, had a, you know, had the
beer and chicken wings and just the living on the short term.
Whereas now I'm playing to win. You know, when I'm 80 and that
to me, is more motivating than the short-term, you know,
Splurge that I could subject myself to, but I just don't want
to Oh yeah. Absolutely, you know, and you
know, like what you're said, the longevity man, that that's,
that's what I guess. Is a major aspiration for me,
you know, like going back into like training and weight
training and you know, outdoor activities and stuff.
You know, people say, well what do you train for?
Like why are you in the gym or why are you out training or I
go? I tell him.
I trained for Life, man. I mean, you know, for yourself
as a competitive, you know bodybuilder and you know, you
have a Petition. But everything that you do both,
you know, nutritionally and in the gym is going to have is
going to pay great deals of dividends on down the road, you
know. So you also I think our training
for for life. I mean, you know, I mean, I
train for life because you know, I want to be that guy.
That's the seven year old dude, that still banging out some
some, you know, some solid workouts in the gym.
And I don't want to be that, you know, decrepit, old person that
can't get around. And, and can't get up and down
the stairs and all that kind of stuff simply because, you know,
I spent a lifetime treating my body like a, you know,
ridiculous community park and, you know, now, I wonder why I'm
50. And I'm on a handful of
medications, every morning, and I can't get out of the chair
without cracking for bones, you know.
Yeah, exactly. And and, and that's not the
sound judge. No, I mean, I don't want it.
Like, blasty. What?
That be like, man, this guy's a jackass, but I'm just saying,
that's my, that's my goal, you know, like You know, I was out
hiking the other summer and you know, there are these two dudes.
You know, they're probably in their mid 70s but they got full
packs on full backpacks. They're out for a week-long.
Backpacking trip they had quads that would probably impress you
and these guys were just out doing it man and they're just
having a great old time and I'm like that's the guy I want to
be. Yeah, hundred percent.
I mean like I don't know man. Like a lot of people they say,
well you only live once he I live in the moment.
You know why you worried about what you Like when you're 70 and
to them, I say, you know, I feel better in the here and now when
I know I'm being the best, I can be in the here and now like I
don't want to sacrifice, you know, on a 24-hour period.
Like, I don't know, people, people don't want to sacrifice
anything and sacrificing, you know, that candy or that cake.
It makes you haven't sub-discipline, man.
Like I don't know, like I do, I'm gonna self-discipline kicker
I've always been on a sub-discipline cake but people
they don't want to be uncomfortable and I don't know
that. That's that's that's powerful at
itself right there. Like you're able to be
sub-discipline, be okay with me, uncomfortable sacrificing, this
superficial stuff, your life you don't need anyways and you
perform better on the day to day and you push yourself and you
strive to be better tomorrow than you were today.
That that's not a bad thing that's not in people.
Oil people want to turn their nose up at you because I just
trying to make themselves feel better about them.
You know, you gotta, you gotta do you and be the best you can
be in if you go to sleep at night feeling proud of your
citizens that you made that day, then there's nothing to hang
your head about. Oh yeah for sure man I totally
agree with all of that. And yeah I mean it's not
restrictive. It's more like I look at it just
like, you know, when going back to when, you know, sitting in a
hospital bed, got the news, I had diabetes and I mean, yeah,
you could sit there and focus on what you just lost.
But what about all the good stuff that you gain, you know,
all the positive health benefits of this lifestyle, you know, all
the long-term health benefits. Yeah, man, I mean it's just it's
so far. Reaching and, you know, for the
folks that you know that diabetics or maybe this will
make it towards the towards the you know, diabetic community and
in or someone will hear this, I just can't express how much
better it is, you know, you know, and that's not to say I'm
better. It's not to say you don't need
to modify slightly for your needs and your life and your
body. You know, that's where I go back
into the read the whole book because, you know, as you know,
you got to modify a little bit depending on what your activity
level is. Liz.
And if you have medications and how your body responds to
various nutrient intake. But man, you know, if you can
just get yourself away from that carbohydrate train, man, you're
just setting yourself up for such a better life in for the
diabetes, and for the type ones, you know, again, you know, take
that initiative to find out for yourself.
And, you know, Take that initiative to really find out.
Okay, what is this insulin really do you know, how does it
respond? What is it doing to my body and
take that control and take your life back?
Because, you know, again, I see it all the time on social media
posts and you know, Facebook and all this.
Where there's just people on there and they're just
struggling man and I feel for them and I don't want to shame
them but I'm just like man you know, you know, did nobody or
have you not you know, taking the time to Figure out like,
what is one unit of insulin do at this time of day?
You know, or what is this do to my body?
And, you know, they're kind of at the mercy of going in there
endocrinologist, once every three months, if they're lucky
and trying to figure out what's going wrong in a 15 or 30 minute
long office, visit and then going out for another three to
six months and seeing if that helps, you know, and it's like
man if you just take the initiative to educate yourself
on nutrition and your medication that can, it's quite honestly
Lethal, you know, you think that would be enough motivation to
figure that out and it's never too late, you know?
I mean, if people are sitting there like, cause this guy,
again, he's being a jackass. I'm like, no, man.
I just want some people to hear this and maybe rattle their cage
enough to be like, oh man, you know like yeah, you know, I
should, I should figure this out, you know, that's all I hope
for. Yeah, absolutely.
I mean you or I are trying to tell people, they should be like
us like So we're trying to do, you know, we're just trying to
help people be the best that they can be.
That's going to look different for everybody, you know?
Like I don't like I get on like a mindset motivational kick and
people think that I'm being judgmental towards them.
That's not the case at all. Like, I look at what I'm doing
on a day-to-day basis. And I know what I, you know,
what standards I subject myself to, everybody's got their own
standards, everybody's got their own perspectives, their
perspectives are their realities, and everybody knows
what the best they can be. Be for themselves is and I just
encourage people to be that, you know, be the best that they can
be. And if that means, you know,
spending an extra hour a day doing your homework figuring out
a little bit about this, you know, diet or their nutrition or
insulin if they're diabetic and just kind of dive into why
things work, what they can do to improve their current state.
I mean, that's that's all I'm asking if anybody just to simply
be the best that they can be with the time that they have the
resources they have. Yeah.
Absolutely you know and yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean and that that
is, you know, that is power, you know, and that you know,
knowledge that's the old, you know, adage knowledge is power,
you know. And a lot of times, especially
in this world, I mean, heck man, you got a cell phone or, you
know, I mean, there's so much knowledge.
Now you gotta, you know, sift through it because there's a lot
of bad stuff out there too. But there's so much knowledge
it's available and it's Free in it.
It's not expensive, man. You don't have to go and do, you
know, six week course for $1200 or you know this or that there's
so much knowledge that's available.
You know, that is just it's right there man.
You just got to go get it. Yeah.
And and and that's that's whose responsibility.
It falls in like they're endocrinologist, doesn't owe
them anything. Their parents don't owe them.
Anything and doctors aren't worth anything.
It's all up to them, you know, the individual.
Like, it's their life. It's in their hands.
And and they have the power to make or break it basically.
Oh yeah. Absolutely.
And and you know that the rewards are our massive, not
just for yourself but I mean think about it.
Sometimes people will say oh man, you know, being interested
in nutrition and health and all this kind of stuff.
Again I think it's in, it's in, it's in it an excuse mechanism
where people who don't want to take the are they don't have the
motivation or Maybe they're looking for their own excuse,
they say all well, that's out, you're being selfish.
You know, you're being self-absorbed or absorbed.
I'm sorry. You know, it's a selfish Pursuit
and I'm like, you know, I mean, there is part of that that is,
yeah, you're taking care of yourself but I'm a firm
believer. And if you're a better person
that's going to that's going to Cascade down upon everyone else
around you and everything you do, you're going to be able to
be a better person in everything you do.
Absolutely. You know, and you know, I think
that's another thing too. You know, if you have a family,
if you have kids, if you have, you know, business Pursuits, if
you have whatever that, you know, you want to excel at, you
know, I firmly believe that one of the, you know, a key
component of excelling and achieving optimal results.
Not just mediocre results is, you know, you gotta you gotta
fix yourself first and then, you know, hopefully That Improvement
will Cascade amongst other things.
I completely agree, man. That's I don't like, if you, if
you feel good about yourself, you're confident who you are as
an individual. If you feel like you have the
ability to share a story or tell somebody else's of something
that you've learned or realize through your out, your own
journey. And and even if even if they
kind of turn their head to that, if it just like plants a seed
and that that grows or Maybe it gets them interested enough to
do a little digging on their own their own.
You know, that, that could be a potential, potentially, a huge
thing. I mean, you, you lost your
wings, you hadn't flown, you know, commercially for 34 years
now, you thought, probably at the time that you're adding the
most value by doing that, you know, offering that as a
service. Whereas now I'd venture to say
that you've been able to impact, significantly more people, You
know, doing this what you're doing.
Now being on podcast being open, you know, talking to that 25
year old girl to gym like just doing that and spreading the
word. And that that's going to kind
of, you know, exponentially grow far beyond you can even imagine
Yeah I mean yeah I hope so and yeah that's one of the things
were, you know, I mean, I'm more of a in a instructor / teacher
role now, you know, it work and it's sort of like the reason why
I have that job at work now is because prior to, you know,
losing my medical, you know, I had, I don't know in excess of
15,000 hours in the air. You know, I'm hoping I can
portray or, you know, present some of that experience and
knowledge that I gained. On a professional, Evan leveled
to my students and then now that I'm starting to hone in on Civil
War, experience and knowledge, you know, for diabetics and just
other people in general, you know, that are non diabetics
that maybe that'll happen a positive effect on them.
And like you said, it's not a matter of, you know, going at it
from the standpoint of you know, what we're doing is better and
you either you're with us or you're not and you know if
you're not then you're somehow, you know, not a as At a person
or something. It's a matter of like, oh man,
you know, this is great and we want it, we're excited, we want
to share it, and we want you to feel good too.
And if maybe we can help you shortcut, some of the pitfalls
that we experienced, you know, isn't that?
I mean, isn't that a good thing, you know?
Yeah, absolutely. So, yeah, now you're doing the
right man. You didn't write a hundred
percent, you get the right intentions and you're coming
from the right place and I'm I'm happy to have you on the podcast
here because I don't know, I think a lot of people would
benefit from your story, but we did.
We just kind of went under mindset Rabbit Hole, I always
kind of go back to my know, I love, I love talking mindset.
Oh yeah, I think it's a huge Factor, you know.
Yeah, 100% 100% well, cool, man. What can people go to find out
more about you kind of follow your journey?
Yeah, so you know, I've kind of do some Twitter, basically what
I've been doing on there is like posting some of my, you know,
some of my like blood glucose values and like some of my
continuous glucose monitor tracks and you know, like before
during and like after some of my training and then like, you
know, mountain bike races and you know, mountain bike training
again, just as an example to say, Hey, you know, you can
perform as a low-carbohydrate athlete, you know, so people can
maybe Be check that out or every once awhile.
Maybe I'll if I find something out that's kind of cool.
Thats related to health and nutrition or diabetes management
or an article. You know I'll share that on
Twitter. I'm not you know, Super Active,
you know because like I say I got a I got a full-time job so
I'm not going nuts on there but I do like to post on there once
in a while and that's just a capital T 1 and then flyer.
So capital T and then the number one and And flyer is my Twitter
and then I don't have a website or anything mainly because I'm
just you know, I'm just I'm just a guy man.
I'm just out there trying to make it by so I don't have I'm
not running a website or anything like that but um, you
know, maybe in the show notes, you know, I could I could maybe
put my or if you get in touch with me on Twitter and you're
interested, you know, I can get you my email that way, you know,
if you have basic questions for me but I guess the one thing to
bear in mind. There's that again, I'm not a
professional on the on the side of, you know, doing this for a
living. So you know, I know, right.
I have to monitor monitor my time, but I definitely want to
help folks or if you have some quick questions or something or
just want to connect, you know, I'd be more than happy to help
folks out with that, you know. Well, Lincoln Twitter for sure,
Twitter, I think you can send a direct message in there.
Something they can message in there to get in touch with you.
Yeah, absolutely. And I guess just one last final
thing or I don't know how much time you got, but I just want to
put a couple of not really plugs in but just some resources I
found that we're really beneficial.
One of them is run is a website called diabetic muscle and
fitness and it's basically it's even if you're not diabetic
there's some awesome information on there for weight training and
various Plans in nutrition. And they are, they aren't our
that that website isn't focused on low carbohydrate ketoprofen.
Say, but there's some really solid physiology and training
information on there, they guided, that started it.
Phil Gramm was a art is still heavily involved in the fitness
industry over in the UK, and he was a professional bodybuilder
as a type one. And so he's you know, very well
versed and he actually has multiple degrees and Sports
Nutrition and Physiology and biology.
So he's very well educated and he has a lot of really good
information on there. So if you're diabetic weather
type 1 or type 2 and you want to get some information on
exercising and weight, training, and nutrition, and how to manage
your, you know, different types of insulin, or insulin
therapies, and His glucose blood glucose monitors.
And there's lots of training modules on there and videos and
articles and interviews with various doctors and people in
the industry it's an awesome website.
And what was the name of one more time?
It's called a diabetic muscle and fitness.
Okay. I'll link it to that one as well
for sure. Yeah and yeah I mean I bet Phil
Gramm would be an awesome guy to have on your website.
Yeah I mean three death, reach out to him.
Yeah, he's he's really good and he actually put out a book to
that's called the diabetic muscle and fitness guide.
That's an old, it almost reads like a textbook.
I mean, it's super informative, some really good physiology and
they're so that's a really good resource that, you know, again
for the diabetics out there that want to start educating
themselves. I think that's an awesome one,
and again, they support that whole mindset of take
responsibility, educate yourself.
And then there's really nothing that you can say that can stop
you. Long as you have the information
and the knowledge to be successful and you know he's a
big proponent of you know you got to own up you know if you
have a bad day or you don't train or you go off the rails on
your diet, don't point the finger at somebody else and say,
well, it's because of this or because you know I got slammed
at work or home a known. It just say, look, you know, I
effed up today or I didn't have a great day today, I went off
the rails. You know what?
I'm going to wake up tomorrow, I'm going to hit it hard.
I'm going to be back on. Rails, you know like I'm ready.
Yeah man. I mean it's good, you know and
he puts out little there's a Facebook group that's also the
same name. That's has some really
supportive folks in there. It's a really great community.
And of course the Facebook group is free.
I think if you actually join the call to the training lab, but
it's like $11 a month and it gives you access to all the
content, all the training plans, All the nutrition stuff all of
it and it's good. It's not keto.
It's not low carbs per se, but they do talk about
low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets and they don't, they don't, I
guess over sell it, but they also don't discourage it and
they say, no, it's a very viable option here are some things to
be concerned with so that you again, have the knowledge to
safely, do it, you know, because that is another thing that
diabetics and type ones in particular often.
I steered away from the low-carb ketogenic diet because they're
sold on this Fear Factor of, oh, you could have this unexpected
low blood sugar, what's called hypoglycemia?
Well, I mean, if you know what you're doing with your insulin
and you know, what you're doing with your diet, there's no
reason. I mean I haven't had a
significant low in two and a half years, you know, and I've
got no problem, you know, and it's completely possible.
So yeah, that's one good website.
I kind of went off on it. Agent.
They're not like you mean I'm not the retail team for sure.
Yeah, yeah. He's he's done a bunch of
podcaster or interviews with another guy John fonte.
He's he runs a podcast called type 1 run, which is another
really good podcast. It's more for like endurance
athletes their type ones, but yeah, that's how I actually,
let's see. How do I find out about that
back muscle, this? I think it was on John's
podcast. Lee and I just went in there and
all the information I have on there is really legit.
Now they probably you know if you're going on there as you
know for looking for Pure low-carb key do stuff, you got
to read between the lines because they don't per se
Advocate, just low carb keto, but it's in there, you know,
like they give you the tools to say, oh, here's what I need to
do with my insulin and my nutrition.
And if I do this, I can safely do it and exercise as well.
And weight train and you know, put on some Mass put on some
size, get strong, you know, live a healthy life and it's a good
message. So absolutely yeah, I'll take
that out for sure. Yeah, yeah.
And then another book just for reference, that is more geared
towards low carbohydrate and ketogenic type type diets.
For a diabetics is dr. Richard Bernstein, he has a book
out. It's been out for a while.
It's called The Diabetes Solution by dr.
Richard Bernstein and he's an older guy, but it goes back into
the mindset kind of thing. He's 83, almost 84 years old
now, and he's been a diabetic since he was 16 and it goes back
to that those old guys hiking in the woods, you know, like this
guy's an endocrinologist. He was an engineer.
He put himself through medical school so that he could have
credibility to Implement and to get people to listen, to him
about a low-carbohydrate diet and the positive effect as a
diabetes control and the guys, you know, walking the walk man.
I mean, he's 83 years old and has no diabetic complications.
So, he's a billboard to say, if you control your blood sugar and
you won't, you don't have to get all the diabetic complications
provided. You can take control of the
disease and have normal blood glucose, have a, get all the
respect in the world people that are practicing with the
preaching. So I'll check him as well.
Yeah, yeah yeah. And then lastly, there's another
one dr. Ken Runyan.
He's a acknowledge. I know, he's not can't remember
if he's a tenor chronologiste or or not.
I don't think he is, he's an I can't remember what type of
physician he is. But he was diagnosed late.
I think in his mid 30s but he's a triathlete and he had a
similar story to mine where initially he was eating what he
thought was healthy and then he wasn't getting the performance
and the Not only But also the result on our the control of his
diabetes. Through just what he thought was
good diet but in also exercise so he switched over to a
ketogenic diet and now he has normal blood glucose values.
Much better control. No lows, you know, excellent
performance as a triathlete, wait, trains is able to be very
active and just has all the positive health benefits and he
wrote a book called The ketogenic diet for type 1
diabetes and it's specific to type 1 diabetics and so it's
it's really good. I love it, I love it all these
resources. I mean like you said the more
the more resources the more knowledge and get the better.
So having these kind of an artillery is because it going to
be good for sure. Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't
I don't have any skin in the game, I'm not selling the
things, I don't have any affiliation with those folks
directly, but it's just something that I've found, and,
you know, Yeah, it makes it even better, you know, like, you
know, if you've, if you've benefitted from him you know
with no skin in the game than other people what as well.
Yeah, I mean I you know, and that's a starting space.
I mean there's a lot more information out there and, you
know, there's a lot of stuff and podcast land, and, and other
folks. But yeah, I mean it's and you
have man. It's just it's exciting because
of you know, how good or the quantity of positive health
benefits. It has for everyone not just,
you know, diabetics but Manic from the diabetic standpoint
man. It can profoundly.
Wait, change your life. It really.
Can you just got it? You just got to man up and or
woman up or do whatever off and get into it.
Okay, Cowboy up, man. That's right.
I love it. I love it John man.
It's been, it's been an absolute pleasure.
I've, I've learned a ton of, had a, had a blast talking with.
You will have to keep in touch for sure.
Because I don't know I like your style, man.
Absolutely, man, I appreciate it, you know.
Hopefully it's one of those, you know, Southern things here.
But yeah, yeah, absolutely. I I was really glad to come on
the show and yeah, I like your message Man.
And as everyone else is chomping at the bit man.
Gotta get a hold of some of those keto Brooks, man.
I hope you got a big case in this time.
We're going to be we're going to be making a bunch here very
soon. We're still waiting on some of
the raw ingredients come in but we can be we're going to be
hammering at bunch in the very very near future.
That's awesome. I'll get you one for sure.
All right. All right.
Jenna until next time and I appreciate you.
Sure, absolutely take care buddy.