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What's going on? 
Ladies and gents Robert Sikes 

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keto Savage.com and I have the 
one and only John Roth on the 

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line today. 
Hey, ninja great, how are you? 

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I'm great, man, I'm great. 
So yeah, give the audience a 

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quick little overview of your 
bio and kind of what got you in 

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the key do in the first place. 
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Sure yeah. 
So myself and my wife have kind 

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of been interested in 
low-carbohydrate kind of Keto 

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type diets about year and a half
now and you know amongst other 

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things you know what led me to 
start looking into more of the 

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Low carbohydrate lifestyle and 
then that kind of evolved into 

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more ketogenic type stuff 
especially for my wife as well. 

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Was that about three years ago? 
I got diagnosed with late onset 

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type 1 diabetes at the age of 36
and so that was a major kind of 

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Life uproar so to speak. 
And yeah I've just been kind of 

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going down the rabbit hole ever 
since then and regarding, you 

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know additions to our You know, 
just the way we go about our 

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nutrition and adding that into 
an active lifestyle. 

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Let's dive into type 1 diabetes,
May especially late onset, that 

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I mean, was there a history of 
type 1 diabetes, and your family

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and that come out of left field?
It was completely unexpected to 

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tell you the truth. 
I believe my mom's mother had 

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type 2, but other than that, 
there wasn't any history of 

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time. 
One anywhere else in our in our 

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family. 
So it was a complete kind of 

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shocker for me. 
And looking back at our family 

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history, no one that I was able 
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had had any any mention of it. 
So it was very unexpected. 

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So it was a kind of shocking. 
We do have some history of some 

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other more minor, I guess, 
autoimmune. 

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In type type diseases, 
sporadically throughout the 

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family but nothing in the type. 
One Camp what I mean had that 

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hit him either. 
I can't imagine. 

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Like somebody that knows me type
1 diabetes. 

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You know randomly I wouldn't 
know what to what to do like 

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with you and your wife sitting 
there and Doc tells you that, 

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what's the first thing that 
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Like, how do you handle it? 
yeah you know it was pretty 

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shocking yet though the way it 
kind of went was that I had kind

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of noticed a pretty significant 
Decline and in my workouts and 

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what I was doing and not only in
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and general I guess energy level
and I actually lost about almost

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20 pounds by the time, I finally
made my way into the hospital 

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and I'm only about 62 in about 
170 pounds. 

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So you take 15, 20 pounds off 
somebody that's you know, has 

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that build? 
You know, it's not good. 

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And so yeah. 
I mean, you know, when I finally

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did end up going in the fatigue,
at gotten to the point where I 

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had to, of course, call off work
and I was slated to go back out 

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on another trip and my wife kind
of said, yeah, you're not just 

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calling in late for work. 
You're going to the hospital and

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So from there? 
Yeah we went into an emergency 

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room and as a said on our work 
have told the story, it's not 

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good when they kind of part the 
waters for you and the emergency

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room and you go right back you 
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Yeah. 
But yeah when we got that news 

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you know in the emergency room 
there it was kind of you know a 

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couple things kind of go come to
mind you know one is you know 

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how is this going to affect you 
know, my family and my wife. 

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And followed shortly by? 
How's this going to affect the 

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rest of my life, you know, as 
far as outside of work and 

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whatnot, you know as it's going 
to affect you know how I'm able 

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to be active and the activities 
I like to to do on my free time 

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and then lastly are probably 
thirdly I guess I could say is 

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yeah how's this going to affect 
my career? 

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And I happen to be in a career 
field where this had a very 

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profound effect on it. 
So that was kind of next. 

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Line what what what career path,
right? 

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So I was a professional, airline
pilot and and still function in 

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a capacity of that. 
I actually work for our 

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company's training department. 
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flight roll so I do everything 
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So in our simulators and ground 
training and systems and so on. 

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But prior to my diagnosis, I was
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And had spent most of my adult /
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leading up to that and as it 
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Administration has that as a 
disqualifying event. 

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And by that I mean type are they
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diabetes but insulin-dependent 
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Such as a disqualifying event, 
to hold what's called a first 

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class medical. 
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pilots, we have to hold Kind of 
highest level of medical 

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certification that the the FAA 
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necessarily lose your license 
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If you don't have a medical, but
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without a medical. 
So in effect you you lose your 

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license. 
So so it's kind of crazy man. 

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Like a lot of people they get 
diagnosed, they want to improve 

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their health and in that I mean 
that's That said, you know, 

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obviously noteworthy going 
itself but here that you are, 

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you know, being faced with a 
decision that your career path 

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is about to change. 
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don't experience, you know that 
degree of change with when their

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health kind of goes south but 
you're basically just they took 

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your wings away. 
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happened. 
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I'm sitting there and, you know,
in a hospital bed in the ICU and

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I'm reading that right on the fa
a--'s website, where it's a 

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disqualifying event and, you 
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your You know, see part of your 
career that you spent the better

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part of 20 years to acquire and 
thousands of hours in the air, 

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just kind of evaporate front of 
your eyes. 

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It's definitely, it's a shocker 
what? 

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I mean, I did you get depressed 
about for that? 

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I mean I can't like for me 
personally I can't imagine you 

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know putting forth 20 years of 
my life to work towards 

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something to build a foundation 
for my family and my future and 

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then all of a sudden just have 
that stripped from me and not 

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really I mean you don't really 
Plan for that. 

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Obviously it's like I mean, how 
does that affect you? 

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Well I mean it definitely. 
Yeah you know it's one of those 

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things we you always have in the
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guess as a pilot that you there 
is a possibility that something 

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could occur and you could 
potentially lose your license or

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lose your medical more 
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But you know being a fairly 
young fit, you know, person who 

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had been you know into various 
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Athletics your whole life, you 
know, you don't it's the old you

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know, you don't think it's going
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So you know, when it when it 
does, you know. 

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Yeah, I mean it hits you hard 
but I guess what I did have to 

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kind of focus on is that You 
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well you know, this is going to 
have a massive effect on my 

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career for now and but you know 
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What do I have? 
You know, and you know, I 

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didn't. 
I mean I was going in quite 

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frankly, I wouldn't have been 
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some sort of, you know, stage 4 
cancer, because I felt so bad, 

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you know, and I said, well, you 
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and I just tried to look at the 
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you know, I had, you know, 
caring family and a loving wife 

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and you know as long as I could 
learn how to treat and or 

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control the disease, I could 
still do all the other things 

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that I wanted to do. 
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look beyond the wasp and look 
more at where can I go from 

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here? 
And how can I overcome it? 

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As I was like, the best way in 
the only way to look at it man. 

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I mean It is what it is and you 
have the decision to make of, 

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you know, what are you going to 
do with that information? 

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Right. 
Yeah, so you know and that kind 

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of goes into, you know, a lot of
What's led me down, the path of 

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being becoming more, I guess, 
refined and nutrition and and 

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kind of going down the path of 
learning and studying in the low

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carb and ketogenic type 
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applying that towards diabetic 
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And You know, it's just a matter
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beyond that and taking 
initiative, you know, which is 

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kind of a sidebar for the Navy, 
another portion of the, of the 

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interview. 
But, you know, I mean, it's just

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kind, you have to ask yourself, 
you know, how do you overcome 

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this? 
And, you know, take it upon 

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yourself to motivate and move 
Beyond it. 

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You know what I mean. 
How many kids do you have? 

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You said, We don't have any, we 
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running around here, but they're
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and your wife and how old are 
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Don't mind me asking. 
So, I'm 39 now, just coming up. 

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I got a few more months until I 
hit the big 40 40 and you were 

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diagnosed at what age and how 
long ago was that 36. 

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So yeah, I just just coming up 
on three years, four years. 

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And so, what I mean, kind of 
been doing what you've been 

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doing for the past 34 years? 
I mean, you Date in the aviation

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industry. 
Do you like, what's the what's 

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the hope for being able to fly 
again? 

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Because they're going to be a 
change in regulation or what 

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your thoughts there? 
Yeah, it's it's kind of a pretty

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not, I want to save a subject 
but it's pretty involved and, 

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you know, kind of a rundown of 
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Is that about a year and a half 
ago, I was able to get my third 

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class medical back, which is the
lowest of, there's a third of 

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second and the first class Third
Class, Medical allows me to 

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exercise privileges as a Private
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So basically fly with fly 
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Most aircraft that are is not 
for hire. 

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So just as a private citizen I 
can take up friends family that 

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kind of stuff, right? 
Aircraft fly privately. 

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So that was nice. 
You know that allowed me to get 

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back in the air and that regard 
flying smaller airplanes from 

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time to time. 
But you know basically after I'd

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say about the first six months 
or so maybe a year, I started to

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get a little bit more heavily 
involved with You know, working 

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with a service, that is the 
medical arm, I guess of the Air 

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Line Pilots Association to start
some advocacy and then some 

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applications to try and get my 
medical back. 

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Because in 2015, they actually 
change the regulations and that 

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it's not explicitly prohibited 
that you can't have a medical as

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a type 1 diabetic or 
insulin-dependent diabetic, 

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which You can get to kind of the
difference between the two here 

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in a bit, but it just says that 
you have to have what's called a

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special issuance, where you 
submit various medical 

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documentation, they review it 
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not it's safe for you to fly 
with that particular condition. 

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And there's quite a bit of that,
that happens, you know, for 

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various folks because as we all 
know, the human body, as best as

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we try is not, you know, a 
Flawless machine and sometimes 

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we have to have, you know, 
corrections to it. 

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So there's the ability to get it
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It's just what's been happening 
is that they've kind of been 

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stonewalling everybody that has 
insulin-dependent diabetes where

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they've neither approve nor 
denied, but they haven't listed 

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any reason for that lack of 
issuance. 

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And so we've been advocating to 
make progress on that. 

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And everyone, I've talked to 
their heads, you know, positions

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are flight surgeons that are the
ones that basically do your 

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medical application process for 
you are very positive and that 

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they feel like it's it's going 
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It's just any time you're 
dealing with a government 

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institution, its moves at a 
glacial pace so that can be 

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frustrating. 
So it's just again like a lot of

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things, you know? 
If it's something that you 

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really Value. 
And you want to go after for not

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only yourself but I feel like 
this is something that's going 

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to be a positive advancement for
others, you know. 

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Like if you go down and you know
it's talk to kids or other folks

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that are maybe you know might 
have aspirations of being a 

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pilot. 
You know you want to you want to

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give them that that you hope I 
guess of saying yeah you can do 

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this if you put your mind to it 
you know and you don't want, you

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know, being a pilot to be the 
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That's you know you go down to 
JDRF and say sorry kids, you 

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Yeah the whole pilot thing you 

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can't do that because you have 
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syringe instead of a pill, you 
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Like I you know for me in my 
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people like my clients they want
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reject me and they want to lose 
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their composition or their 
desert improve their health from

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like a diabetic standpoint can 
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Insulin but I'd never thought of
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In terms of you know here you 
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You're doing everything right? 
You know, you're not overweight.

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Yeah, you just type 1 late onset
type 1 diabetic and yet your 

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career path is totally turned on
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your family and your future. 
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It really resonates with me 
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but not just keto, the 
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so much more. 
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So much more crucial and just 
import Ardent for people to kind

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of be mindful of and strive to 
improve on. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
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with that and that I guess 
getting back to the diabetes 

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side of things, you know, 
depending on, I've done a few 

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podcast with more or with 
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towards diabetes or diabetics. 
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with you I can take a second to 
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between type 1 and type 2 
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Yeah yeah definitely. 
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on then. 
So You know, as a summary type 1

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diabetics, basically lose the 
ability of their pancreatic 

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cells, more specific beta cells 
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Their own immune system, attacks
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something foreign and attacks 
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pancreas, that produce insulin. 
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ability to produce any insulin 
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exterior. 
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eventually lose the ability to 
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glucose or even, you know, 
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build up to the point where they
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body would produce and 
eventually you would die. 

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And that would be a rather quick
process like if I stop taking my

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insulin and had no access to 
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within four days to seven days. 
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not make any insulin whatsoever 
so you have to take it yourself 

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when you went to the doctor. 
Did they draw your Labs? 

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That what we are numbered new 
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Yeah, I do so normal blood sugar
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Now, you know there's another 
conversation. 

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There is what's the average 
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I don't know. 
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averages there. 
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to be a healthy blood sugar. 
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between 70 milligrams per 
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would be. 
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per deciliter, so Mine by 
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my way to the hospital. 
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took in the waiting room in the 
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glucose meters. 
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Beyond either 400 or 450 in most
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So that one said hi, in which 
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going in back and I talked to 
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794, I believe. 
So it's creating me. 

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I was kind of teetering on the 
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ketoacidosis. 
Ptosis where you know your your 

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extremely high and it makes your
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know portions of the body 
extremely acidic and it becomes 

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very toxic. 
And then also it puts you into a

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pretty profound state of 
electrolyte imbalance and that's

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actually what can ultimately 
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failure. 
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slope and it is not caught, 
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folks from my understanding when
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electrolyte and fluid imbalance.
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them into organ failure. 
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the low-carb. 
Kind of /, keto prior to go to 

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the doctor. 
So you were producing, you know,

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heighten the blue ketones 
anyways and your body would just

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you know shuttling that blood 
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go that's true prior to being 
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I was very active, very did a 
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weight training and so on. 
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far down, you know, low carb, 
anywhere near actually that I 

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am. 
Now, a matter of fact, I could, 

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I was kind of getting away with 
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Where, because, you know, I had 
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I was really active and I did a 
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endurance activities. 
I was still eating. 

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I think we're gluten-free at the
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We didn't eat gluten, but 
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say I was eating anywhere near 
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would be considered standard 
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would not say that. 
I was low card at low-carb at 

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that time, but even if I was 
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Diabetes Type 1, I should Even 
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you would still find yourself in
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days. 
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prolong it by being ketogenic 
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There's no data on that. 
Really not. 

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Not a good place to be either 
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Yeah. 
Definitely. 

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Not some place you want to find 
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back over to type 2 diabetes 
which is a lot more prevalent. 

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That is more of a disease that 
people like dr. 

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Jason Fang and you know even 
what dr. 

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Brett sheer I believe you had 
them on one of your shows as 

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well. 
Yep. 

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And some other enter canalla 
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carb, diets and ketogenic diets.
You know, they'll call type 2 

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diabetes. 
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as a disease of high blood sugar
which is not incorrect, but more

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specifically, it's shown to be a
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hyperinsulinemia where you have 
such high levels of insulin in 

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your body that your body has 
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So the cells in your body are no
longer responding as well to the

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insulin that your body does 
produce. 

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And so what happens is Is 
because of that insulin 

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resistant that super high level 
of insulin in your body and 

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insulin resistance that you're 
no longer able to produce enough

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insulin to kind of force out all
of the glucose that's in your 

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blood and then. 
So what happens is that it just 

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stays kind of suspended in the 
blood if you want to think of it

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that way. 
And so yes, you do have elevated

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blood sugar values, but it's a 
by-product of hyperinsulinemia 

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which Is then caught or it's 
really caused by the onslaught 

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of high carbohydrates sugars. 
All the stuff that has become, 

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unfortunately a staple and a lot
of our modern, you know, food 

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and diet practices. 
Yeah, and they look like the 

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current medical practices lows 
type. 2 diabetics are just 

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giving more insulin. 
Exactly what. 

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Exactly. 
I mean, it just, I can't even 

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begin to Fathom how crazy that 
is. 

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The concept of it, just 
basically killed him that much 

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faster. 
ER, Well, you're absolutely 

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right. 
It does and it's actually 

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exacerbates that insulin 
resistance and so, unfortunately

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what happens and this can happen
to of type ones is that as you 

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become more and more insulin 
resistant, you have to have more

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and more insulin and it's a 
really Vicious Circle where as 

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you have more insulin, you know,
that's a as you know, that's a 

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growth and or a storage hormone.
And so that causes, you know, 

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hunger and then the hunger you 
eat more and if you're eating 

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the wrong stuff then you need 
more insulin and it's a really, 

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it's a very negative feedback 
loop there. 

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And you know eventually what 
happens is no matter how much 

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insulin you take and how strong 
the insulin is, you can't 

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maintain normal blood sugar 
values and ultimately what ends 

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up. 
Now, some of this is opinion and

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there might be some people 
yelling on the other end of the 

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speaker, but ultimately diabetes
doesn't. 

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It doesn't really kill anybody. 
It's the complications from 

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diabetes that ends up killing 
folks, as far as coronary artery

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disease, different types of 
dementia, other diseases that 

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are called for their caused from
glycation of the cells in the 

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body, like neuropathy, you know,
peripheral neuropathy. 

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That's causes a lot of times the
amputations that you see and 

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then people get infections from 
the amputations and then that 

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ends up Infection ends up 
killing them, or they get 

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retinopathy, which is where they
lose their sight from the again,

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the inflammation in the, in the 
eyes and the vascular structures

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around the eyes, you know, liver
failure. 

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I'm sure you may have heard of 
sometimes people who have not 

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controlled their diabetes. 
Well, ending up on dialysis, you

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know, because they're, you know,
kidneys as have gone. 

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And I mean, there's just this 
laundry list of just horrendous 

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things that you could 
potentially die from. 

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But that's a cause of the high 
blood glucose or blood sugar 

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values causing long-term damage 
and it can be very Insidious. 

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You know, it's a lot of times 
it's not something that's going 

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to happen in one or five or 
sometimes, even 10 years, it's 

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stuff that comes up. 
You know, over the course of 10 

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to 20 years, which, you know, 
goes back to normal Health, 

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which is, you know, I sometimes 
when folks come to me and ask me

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for either advice or some tips 
or whatever on diet nutrition 

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and you get into that 
conversation of like sometimes 

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eating healthy, folks say well 
it's expensive and it's not 

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convenient and all this kind of 
stuff. 

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And I just say, man, you're 
talking about your health man. 

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You know, if you go cheap on 
your food, you know, Going to 

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pay, believe me, you're going to
pay, but it's not going to be in

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food. 
It's going to be a medical 

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bills, you know. 
Yeah. 

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It's a it honestly blows my mind
man. 

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Like when I first started 
lifting and getting into 

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training you know you're always 
told you know it's equal, parts 

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nutrition and training but I was
young and dumb and thought I 

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could get away with it. 
So pretty much just focus on the

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training and gave like nutrition
was an afterthought. 

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Now I've totally flip that on 
its head and I focus so much 

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more nutrition and And I look at
people at my whole family, come,

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I mean, we're from the south, 
you know, we grow, we grew up 

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eating, you know, Grandma's 
baking and just not optimal 

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Foods by any means tasty foods, 
but not optimal. 

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And I look at my my relatives, I
look at my family, I look at my 

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parents even my brother and 
they're just eating foods that 

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are not going to yield a 
long-term, you know, positive 

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result on their body. 
And I mean, I've had older 

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relatives that have been 
Dialysis and died. 

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I've been to funerals Burying my
own relatives that you know had 

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these implications that I didn't
even realize what was causing it

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at the time. 
But now that I've kind of been 

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enlightened as to what all this 
inner working is and kind of 

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nutrition comes into play. 
It's like I would be doing a 

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disservice to my family, my 
friends, in the world. 

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If I didn't try and make this 
more known because it's such an 

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obvious fix that that people 
just don't realize. 

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Oh yeah, I absolutely agree with
you fully and you know, which is

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one of the things that kind of 
motivated me to start emailing 

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and maybe getting in contact or 
getting into contact with some 

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folks of the podcast that I 
listen to that. 

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I feel like have a good message 
and good information and, you 

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know, seem like solid folks like
yourself to again, try and, you 

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know, just like you said, share 
that information and try and get

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that information. 
Mason out there. 

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Because like on your show, it's 
not geared towards diabetics, 

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but maybe somebody here is this 
that either with is a diabetic 

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and has been thinking about it. 
And like I do, you know? 

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I because I guarantee you man 
there endocrinologist is going 

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to tell them, they're going to 
die. 

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If they do it. 
Kia, Jack diet, or it's going to

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be extremely dangerous and 
they're going to scare the crap 

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out of them. 
But you know, I'm here to say 

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that it works and it can work 
very well and very safely and it

447
00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:01,500
will have a profoundly positive 
effect on your health and your 

448
00:28:01,700 --> 00:28:05,200
or in your control, you know. 
And I just want to get that word

449
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,000
out there to try and help folks,
you know, and you know, like 

450
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:13,700
even just this morning on that 
note, you know, I was at the gym

451
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:17,600
and I saw this girl probably on 
her mid-20s or so. 

452
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,100
And she had this thing called 
Omni pod, which is a, it's a 

453
00:28:21,108 --> 00:28:23,600
type of insulin delivery system 
where it's like, this little 

454
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:28,600
like Apple watch size type 
thing, that contains insulin and

455
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,600
it injects it as needed and it 
kind of sticks. 

456
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,000
To wherever you, put it on your 
body and it has a little 

457
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,400
subcutaneous thing that goes 
underneath your skin. 

458
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,100
Just keep it in layman's terms. 
So I saw that and I was like, oh

459
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:43,300
yeah, are you type one? 
She's like, yeah, I just got 

460
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,200
this, you know, and, you know, 
working on getting my, you know,

461
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,800
my blood sugar values and better
control and, you know, but this 

462
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,500
is new and like she has this 
other thing called a car is 

463
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:55,200
getting, what's what I wear, and
have used for a long time, it's 

464
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,900
a continuous glucose monitor, 
where it takes a glucose 

465
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:02,000
measurement every five minutes, 
so you can see Trends and Adjust

466
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,400
as necessary and gives you a 
much better tool to control your

467
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,000
blood sugar. 
But you know, she had some 

468
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,000
questions on that and she's like
yeah, you know, my my hba1c 

469
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,200
these are in the nines but I 
want to work on getting them 

470
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,600
down which again for the normal 
listeners, you know, a normal 

471
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,300
blood sugar hba1c which is a 
three months, three month 

472
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:27,900
average of your blood glucose 
should be somewhere between four

473
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:31,500
point five and maybe five point 
four would be considered normal.

474
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:33,700
And so 9 is almost double 
normal. 

475
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,500
So I was like, yeah, you know, 
I've been doing this for three 

476
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,300
years and, you know, use a lot 
of nutrition and diet to help 

477
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:43,600
and you know, I don't use a punk
myself. 

478
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000
Actually do what's called 
multiple daily injections, 

479
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,300
because I don't really want 
something connected to me, and 

480
00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:54,900
with a ketogenic or a low-carb 
diet, it's completely possible 

481
00:29:54,900 --> 00:30:00,400
to have very good control with 
Injections instead of a pump but

482
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,400
that again, nutritions at Key 
facet to that. 

483
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,000
So I started talking to her 
about that. 

484
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,200
She was like, getting really 
excited like oh man, you know, 

485
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,700
like I didn't know you could do 
that and you know, like just try

486
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,700
and give her some information, I
gave her, you know, my name and 

487
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:16,300
number and said hey you know, as
you're going through this, you 

488
00:30:16,308 --> 00:30:18,600
know if you have any questions 
you know not a medical 

489
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,900
professional by any means but 
you know I've got some real 

490
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:25,900
world experience has put a lot 
of time into study and research 

491
00:30:25,900 --> 00:30:32,200
and you know, Pulling on my my, 
you know, minor that I got in 

492
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,900
Sports Nutrition and Physiology 
back in the day, you know, I'll 

493
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:37,400
do my best to help you, you 
know? 

494
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,900
And maybe I can help you 
shortcut something by a month 

495
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:43,600
or, you know, say, Hey try this.
And, you know, I found this by 

496
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,500
trial and error and try and help
help them out, you know, and 

497
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:49,400
maybe going on podcast. 
People will hear that and say, 

498
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,200
oh man, you know, I'm going to 
start looking at this more as 

499
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,600
well, you know. 
Yeah, absolutely man, that's 

500
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,500
100% the right way to look. 
And that's the beauty. 

501
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,600
E of this, you know, nutritional
community in the first place. 

502
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000
I mean like, if you see that, 
you know, mid twenty year old 

503
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,700
girl, that's this, you know, 
getting on type 1 diabetic and 

504
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:09,500
just that's becoming her life to
Lifestyle. 

505
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:13,700
Now, if you can, you know, short
circuit heard, you know, mishaps

506
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,100
and just kind of make this 
easier transition for, like, 

507
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:19,000
that's going to be life-changing
for, you know, she's gonna 

508
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,800
remember you and that 
conversation long after you've 

509
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200
forgotten it because you've had 
such a profound impact on her 

510
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,200
and for us to be able to do it 
at scale and help more people at

511
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,800
one time. 
It's just, it's just, it's just 

512
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,100
exciting, man. 
It's motivating. 

513
00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:34,900
Yeah. 
And you know, the and as you're 

514
00:31:34,900 --> 00:31:38,000
saying with your family, kind of
going back to that, you know, as

515
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,500
I'm sure you've experienced, you
know, they always say trying to 

516
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:43,300
sometimes help in the your 
family and your loved ones, the 

517
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:47,000
ones closest to you is the 
hardest feet. 100% man. 

518
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,000
Like it's yeah, I mean are you 
are you kind of strung with 

519
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,000
that? 
Like if you talk to family 

520
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,000
members that don't know what 
you're doing and don't 

521
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,300
understand it and don't support 
it. 

522
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,200
I wouldn't say that there's ones
that Don't support it, you know,

523
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,200
my wife you know she's 
definitely on board with it. 

524
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,500
And that's a massive, you know, 
help and or is you know, it 

525
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:10,600
helps because it's just the two 
of us and then I mean heck man I

526
00:32:10,608 --> 00:32:13,200
could even go as far as to say 
that our dogs are on keto 

527
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,100
because we feed them you know 
high protein high fat you know 

528
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,700
no grain no Karma are low 
carbohydrate dog food and 

529
00:32:21,700 --> 00:32:24,800
they're you know they're 13 14 
and they act like puppies, you 

530
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,700
know. 
So it doesn't just apply to 

531
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,100
people but Going back to the 
family thing, you know, you 

532
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:34,700
know, my parents, they were more
traditional, you know, and it's 

533
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:37,400
not that they didn't support it,
they just didn't understand it, 

534
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,000
you know, because it is, it 
completely bucks that tradition,

535
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,300
you know, because I grew up in 
East Tennessee, actually some 

536
00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:49,000
kind of Southern boy myself. 
But, you know, it goes against 

537
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,100
that tradition, you know, and my
both, my parents are very well 

538
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:56,300
educated, but, you know, you're 
going against years and years 

539
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,100
and years and years, a Dogma. 
You know, saying and you know, 

540
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:02,800
they bought into Hook Line and 
Sinker, the push of low-fat 

541
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,000
everything back in the 80s and 
early 90s. 

542
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,700
So, you know, when I show up and
I'm like, now I'm wrong. 

543
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:10,500
I have four eggs, put some bacon
bits in there and I'm going to 

544
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,400
eat an avocado and I might put 
some cheese on that one at it, 

545
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,600
you know, it's he's like man, 
your cholesterol is going to go 

546
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,400
through the roof Jon Boat 
because my mom was a an open 

547
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,600
heart cardiac nurse, you know, 
so she's very attuned to it and 

548
00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:30,900
we've had Disease in our family 
and all that and my dad, you 

549
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,300
know, he had a open heart 
surgery, you know, back in the 

550
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,900
late 80s and they're all like, 
oh, your cholesterol, your 

551
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:39,100
cholesterol. 
I'm like, no Mom. 

552
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:41,200
It doesn't work like that. 
Let me tell you about it. 

553
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:45,800
And, you know, finally, about 
six, it's been about almost six 

554
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,200
months. 
Now, you know, my mom said, 

555
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,400
well, you know, I mean, John's 
doing pretty good, you know, he 

556
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,300
seems really healthy and its 
really helping them, you know, 

557
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:57,300
keep his diabetes that, you 
know, non-diabetic levels, if I 

558
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,100
were To pull blood work and turn
it into the FAA and I didn't 

559
00:34:00,100 --> 00:34:02,500
self disclose that. 
I was a diabetic, they would 

560
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,800
never know because ever. 
All, my blood values are well 

561
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,300
within functional healthy 
normal. 

562
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:12,100
And I showed her this and my 
mom, here's my lipid panel, you 

563
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:14,199
know, you know, how to read 
this, look at this, and she's 

564
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,500
like, oh my gosh, you know, your
cholesterol is, you know, just 

565
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,900
below 200 and your, you know, 
HDL is way up in your 

566
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:25,800
triglycerides are at 35 and, you
know, your LDL is that has good 

567
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,300
range. 
She's like these are amazing and

568
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,699
she's Like what you eat, all 
this fat, and all this, you 

569
00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:32,000
know, all this crazy stuff I'm 
like, yeah, I know Mom. 

570
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,000
But it's, it's the, the sugars 
and the grains and the 

571
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,300
inflammation and all that other 
stuff. 

572
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:41,400
That's, that's the problem. 
It's not, it's not the healthy 

573
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,900
fats and a well-formulated Diet,
you know? 

574
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:45,699
Yeah, yeah. 
I totally agree. 

575
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:50,000
I found that the hardest barrier
to kind of cross with, you know,

576
00:34:50,007 --> 00:34:53,699
like my parents generation, your
parents generation is like they 

577
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,600
are starting to hear about it. 
They want to experiment with it,

578
00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:59,100
they may be read it. 
Blog post about it, read 

579
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:02,700
something on the news about it 
and then they dabble in it, but 

580
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:05,500
they want they wind up, doing is
they don't go all in. 

581
00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:09,200
So they still wind up eating a 
ton of carbohydrates, they don't

582
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,800
even realize they're eating and 
they want him doing themselves, 

583
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,300
more harm than good because now,
they're getting high carbs in 

584
00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,700
high fat. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

585
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:21,100
I mean that, that's yeah, that's
a key portion as well to, you 

586
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:22,600
know. 
And, you know, people I talk 

587
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,900
about it to our tell about it 
and, you know, work with them 

588
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,100
and stuff. 
You know, I tell them, That's 

589
00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:31,800
absolutely crucial. 
Is that you find a good source 

590
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:37,100
to kind of explain the low 
carbohydrate /, ketogenic diet 

591
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:41,600
thoroughly and research it. 
So you understand what it is 

592
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:46,400
that you're really doing so that
you can do things like not just 

593
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:51,000
read the nutrition label because
as most of us know that gone 

594
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:55,100
down this road, they're far from
truthful, I mean there's there's

595
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:58,300
a twenty percent error Factor 
that's allowed by the The FDA, 

596
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,800
plus the fact that they can do 
stuff like, say, well, you know,

597
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,600
there's zero, net carbs, but 
then you look at it and there's,

598
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,500
you know, all these sugar 
alcohols and all kinds of other 

599
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:11,000
wild stuff in there. 
But, you know, you got to read 

600
00:36:11,100 --> 00:36:14,400
the ingredients, you know, and 
say, oh look, you know, tapioca 

601
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,500
starch that's sugar. 
Brown rice flour, that's sugar, 

602
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,300
you know, like, you know, 
reading all this stuff and 

603
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:24,500
recognizing like, oh man, you 
know, like this thing's hiding a

604
00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,400
lot of stuff that like you said,
it's hidden carbohydrates. 

605
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,000
Which from a diabetes 
standpoint, you know, 

606
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,500
carbohydrates is sugar. 
Because quite honestly once you 

607
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:35,900
start digesting it, your liver 
done, know the difference and 

608
00:36:35,908 --> 00:36:38,000
neither does your blog blood 
sugar? 

609
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,100
Yeah, I would argue. 
That's the case even if you're 

610
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:42,900
not a diabetic. 
So it is, it absolutely is. 

611
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:46,900
I mean, matter of fact, there's 
a can't remember the medical 

612
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:53,300
term for it, but that I 
researched and your body like 

613
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,900
for non-diabetic your body, like
the instant, you smell 

614
00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:59,300
something. 
That in your body kind of has 

615
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:02,900
that trigger that it thinks it's
about to eat or consume food. 

616
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:07,200
It actually starts releasing 
insulin before food even touches

617
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:12,900
your mouth you know. 
And yeah so you know and 

618
00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:15,700
unfortunately you know food 
companies and you know the the 

619
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:19,600
hyper palatable foods and you 
know, I mean they're kind of 

620
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,000
hijacking that and they know 
that it happens and you know, 

621
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,700
yeah, I mean you're already 
started on that insulin train 

622
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:27,400
before you even put anything in 
your mouth. 

623
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,300
Then I mean, they they've done 
things where clinical standpoint

624
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,000
research standpoint. 
I read this one PubMed article, 

625
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:41,700
where they literally had, folks 
eat kind of like foamy kind of 

626
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,400
chunks of something. 
It basically, it was non-edible,

627
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,400
it was, it wouldn't digest, but 
it also wouldn't cause their 

628
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:50,900
intestines to get all jacked up,
or clogged. 

629
00:37:50,900 --> 00:37:52,500
I should say. 
That's not very technical term, 

630
00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:55,700
but and measured their insulin 
levels. 

631
00:37:55,700 --> 00:37:59,100
And they literally ate these 
like phone, I'm non-digestible, 

632
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,700
you know, almost like Little 
Rock's and they had this 

633
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:06,600
significant increase in insulin 
secretion and it was it had 

634
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:08,800
there was no nutrients in it 
whatsoever. 

635
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,000
Nor would it break down but yet 
their insulin went up. 

636
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,300
So there's some really 
interesting stuff out there 

637
00:38:14,300 --> 00:38:17,500
regarding that for sure. 
Yeah that's a huge reason why 

638
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,300
I'm an advocate for counting 
total carbs, opposed to net 

639
00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:21,700
carbs. 
I mean you can get away with all

640
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:25,000
kinds of, you know, sugar 
alcohols that don't technically 

641
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,100
qualify as net carbohydrates, 
but they're having a Profound 

642
00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:30,600
impact on your insulin levels. 
Oh yeah. 

643
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,000
It's massive. 
You know and I mean you know 

644
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,100
you're a gem guy as well too. 
And I mean, you know, I go to 

645
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:38,300
one of the big box gyms. 
I probably shouldn't say it over

646
00:38:38,300 --> 00:38:39,900
the air, but I'm sure you can 
imagine. 

647
00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:44,000
I mean, they've got the the wall
of desserts is what I call them.

648
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,200
I mean it's is their color 
scheme purple. 

649
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:52,200
No, that one's next in line 
because that one's out by my 

650
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,900
work that I go out to that one. 
They have. 

651
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:56,200
What do they do? 
They do. 

652
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Like Bagel morning. 
On Tuesdays with a gold and 

653
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,100
cream cheese. 
Yeah, I know that one. 

654
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,800
This one has a more of a blue 
red color scheme with a number 

655
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,900
24 in it. 
Okay. 

656
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,400
Yeah. 
They get out and you know that 

657
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,500
so you know they have that 
whole, you know, supplement sex 

658
00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,600
and then they have the coolers 
with all the supplement drinks 

659
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,600
in there and everything. 
And I guarantee you there is 

660
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,600
besides, the water bottles. 
There is Single one of those 

661
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:32,100
things that don't have some 
Preposterous amount of sugar and

662
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:36,500
carbohydrates in them, you know.
And that's just, you know, 

663
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:38,800
that's the culture that we're 
kind of bucking against, you 

664
00:39:38,808 --> 00:39:41,500
know, and it's not because 
people are dumb or, you know, 

665
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,300
we're better than them or 
anything like that. 

666
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:45,500
It's just because you know, they
just don't know and I didn't 

667
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,300
know for a long time myself. 
I'm not going to make it out to 

668
00:39:48,308 --> 00:39:51,600
be like, you know, on this 
benevolent, you know, Super 

669
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,100
Nutrition guy, that's known this
since I was 4. 

670
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,900
I mean, I certainly played into 
that myself for a long Time to 

671
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,000
and oh, yeah, me, yeah, they're 
marketed to that. 

672
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,100
I mean, it's just what what you 
see as reality. 

673
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,200
And like I said, supplements, I 
mean, they they know how to 

674
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,700
Market to people to, you know, 
play on their emotions. 

675
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:12,200
I mean, some of the supplements 
that are marketed as keto even 

676
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:13,800
or the farthest thing from 
Quito. 

677
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,000
Oh yeah. 
Because, you know, 

678
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,700
unfortunately, it's just like 
gluten free, you know, the 

679
00:40:19,700 --> 00:40:23,500
industry is latched onto it. 
They know they can sell it and 

680
00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:25,500
they're going to try and 
capitalize on it. 

681
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:30,700
And if you the Zoomer. 
Don't take the initiative to 

682
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:33,800
educate yourself. 
You know, you could find 

683
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,100
yourself almost into a worse 
situation than before, because 

684
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,900
here you are thinking you're 
doing something good when. 

685
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:42,500
In fact, it's not it's actually 
detrimental to your health or 

686
00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:45,400
your, in my case, diabetes 
control, or whatever it is. 

687
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,400
You know, I use the eye called 
The Quest Bar analogy, you know,

688
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:50,500
people see. 
Oh yeah. 

689
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:52,300
Quest Bar. 
You know, it's got good protein 

690
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:54,500
to net. 
Garnett grams of carbohydrates. 

691
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,000
You turn that thing over. 
First of all, read the 

692
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,900
ingredients. 
List and you can find sugar in 

693
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:02,700
it and second of all if you look
at even their nutrition label 

694
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:07,700
which they're allowed to have 
some error on, it says right on 

695
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:11,600
the back I think they have 22 or
24 grams of carbohydrates. 

696
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,600
Yeah. 
And 18 of it is sugar alcohols 

697
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,800
and then they put a bunch of 
fiber in there so then they can 

698
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,400
cut it down on that net 
carbohydrates. 

699
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,700
So it's just what you're talking
about as a diabetic that has a 

700
00:41:21,707 --> 00:41:24,500
continuous glucose. 
Meter, I can tell you right now,

701
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:29,100
net carbohydrates is a bunch of 
Mmm. 

702
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,100
Yeah, no, I'm really glad to say
that man because that's, that's 

703
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:35,300
honestly, one of the big 
pitfalls and kind of like, I 

704
00:41:35,308 --> 00:41:38,600
don't know, stumbling blocks of 
Quito as a whole people. 

705
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:42,200
I don't know where the whole 
adage of only count net carbs 

706
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,800
came from. 
I don't know where this whole, 

707
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:47,000
you know, as long as you keep 
net carbs under 50 grams a day, 

708
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,300
you're good. 
I mean, people can have 50 grams

709
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,100
of net carbs hundred grams total
carbs and they're not even in 

710
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:57,100
ketosis. 
But yeah, it's it's sad because 

711
00:41:57,100 --> 00:41:58,700
you know, Except people are 
playing on this. 

712
00:41:58,700 --> 00:42:03,600
It's hugely important to read 
the ingredient list and not just

713
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,900
a nutritional label. 
I read every ingredient list. 

714
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:09,800
I don't, I don't just look at 
them Tricia label because like 

715
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,600
you said, there's that huge 
margin of error there and I 

716
00:42:12,607 --> 00:42:15,900
think companies are required to 
disclose all the ingredients 

717
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:19,400
even if they don't they are the 
FDA does require them to. 

718
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,900
They must list all the 
ingredients namely that the 

719
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:26,000
derivative of that is for 
allergen information in 

720
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,800
liability because there was a 
massive Lawsuit about 40 years 

721
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:33,600
ago where they didn't disclose 
the fact that they used, I 

722
00:42:33,607 --> 00:42:36,700
believe it was peanut oil. 
And unfortunately, guess what? 

723
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,500
Some kid had to die before they 
passed the law. 

724
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,800
Yeah, yeah and see that's, you 
know, it's unfortunate that 

725
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,400
that's, it's good that they just
close everything now because if 

726
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,100
you know, what these ingredients
are, you'll know what they're 

727
00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:51,700
derived from and kind of like 
what effect they may have on the

728
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:53,500
body. 
Because, I mean, there's I don't

729
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:56,100
know where like 40 or 50 
different names for sugar. 

730
00:42:57,500 --> 00:42:59,700
So yeah, yeah. 
I mean being being Savvy to that

731
00:42:59,700 --> 00:43:02,400
and knowing what you're actually
consuming is hugely 

732
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,900
advantageous. 
Oh yeah I mean it's Paramount if

733
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:09,000
you're really interested in 
honing in on it you know, and 

734
00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:12,100
kind of getting back to the 
self-education. 

735
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,900
You know, I tell people that, 
you know, there's a couple of 

736
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:17,700
good books that that I recommend
people read if they're 

737
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:21,000
interested in going down this 
path and, you know, your your 

738
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,600
podcast is included in some of 
the the podcast I recommend. 

739
00:43:25,100 --> 00:43:28,200
And, you know, I tell them I'm 
like, How to read the whole 

740
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,100
book, you know, and that's just 
a means of saying you gotta 

741
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,500
don't just read the first 
chapter and be like all right so

742
00:43:35,700 --> 00:43:38,100
I can eat a whole ton of fat and
tone. 

743
00:43:38,100 --> 00:43:41,400
Oh you know this and that, and 
I'm good to go. 

744
00:43:41,500 --> 00:43:45,500
It's like no, no, like there's 
there's a lot more to it and you

745
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:49,800
don't want to overcomplicate it,
but at the same time you also, 

746
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,900
like you said, you don't want 
people going down the wrong road

747
00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:56,300
where then they don't, they 
unknowingly are almost like 

748
00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,800
pardon the pun but They're super
sizing, the standard American 

749
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,100
diet, where now they just 
increased their fat and 

750
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,500
sometimes their protein and they
still have carbohydrates in 

751
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,600
there. 
So it's just going to be a holy 

752
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,400
nightmare, you know. 
I agree. 

753
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,300
And then might be like a, you 
know, like a transition period 

754
00:44:14,300 --> 00:44:16,900
like it's pretty typical for 
people to want to incorporate 

755
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:20,600
all the, you know, the pseudo 
car males, like the keto 

756
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:23,400
cheesecakes and Aikido cookies, 
all that stuff. 

757
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:27,800
And if that if that shortens 
the, the learning curve, If that

758
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:31,700
kind of just ensures that you 
wind up, getting into ketosis 

759
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,000
and kind of following that 
lifestyle, you know, I think 

760
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,700
that's good. 
You know, I think if that kind 

761
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:38,100
of bridges the Gap and it just 
gets people moving the right 

762
00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,400
direction. 
That's a positive thing, but you

763
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,400
no longer in the diet and 
lifestyle, generally speaking, 

764
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:46,700
the more you want to refine it 
and optimize it because you 

765
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:48,000
realize how much better you 
feel. 

766
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,400
And then that leads to removing 
a lot of those pseudo carbonyls 

767
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,000
and you just you can tell the 
difference. 

768
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200
And once you tell a difference, 
it's easy to say no to him. 

769
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:58,100
Oh yeah. 
Absolutely. 

770
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:01,100
I mean you know that's another 
thing that you've had multiple 

771
00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:05,100
guest on to cover it Greater 
detail and, you know, articulate

772
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:07,700
it better than I can. 
But yeah, as you know I mean you

773
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:11,800
know the carbs and sugars are 
highly addictive and you know 

774
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600
once you kind of can get that 
out of your system and get that 

775
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,700
you know I'm out of your palate 
so to speak, you know, people 

776
00:45:19,700 --> 00:45:22,400
say oh man you know this this 
diet seems like it's really 

777
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,000
restrictive and I can't have 
this and I can't have that. 

778
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,700
I'm like yeah but look at all 
the things you And have man. 

779
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:30,500
I mean the food is freaking 
delicious man. 

780
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:33,800
You know, I mean fat is where 
flavor really is? 

781
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:35,300
100%? 
100%. 

782
00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:38,300
Well, yeah. 
And you know, once you kind of 

783
00:45:38,300 --> 00:45:41,700
get that that taste or that 
craving out of your system, 

784
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:44,700
which really only takes a couple
of weeks to be quite honest with

785
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:50,600
you, at least for me, you know. 
Yeah. 

786
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,000
Like you said, you lose a taste 
for it. 

787
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,400
I see it all the time at work, 
man. 

788
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,800
I mean, you know, and those 
folks that do go into a regular 

789
00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:00,500
our office job or maybe have, 
you know, a normal work place 

790
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:04,900
that they go to that. 
They don't necessarily, you 

791
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:07,200
know, work from home or 
something like that or if you 

792
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,100
are fortunate enough to own 
their own business, you know I 

793
00:46:10,107 --> 00:46:12,400
mean it's like it looks like a 
freaking three-year-olds 

794
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,500
birthday party. 
You know, half half the days of 

795
00:46:14,500 --> 00:46:17,000
the week where I go because it's
always somebody's birthday. 

796
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,900
It's always somebody's you know 
anniversary it's always 

797
00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:24,100
somebody's kid you know or they 
just had a kid or you know and 

798
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:26,700
there's like you know, pizza and
tacos and cake. 

799
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:30,800
And chips and you know all kinds
of just it's ridiculous man. 

800
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,800
Like I went in the other day and
I kid you not right in the 

801
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,900
middle of there. 
Here's what somebody's birthday 

802
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:39,200
thing was there was a big giant 
sheet cake and you know what? 

803
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,000
They had to drink not milk. 
No no. 

804
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:44,900
They had Sunny D. 
I'm like, are you kidding me? 

805
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,200
Yeah. 
It's I'm like, are we adults 

806
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,100
here? 
Like, we're the two-year-olds 

807
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:51,900
and even the tour old shouldn't 
be eating this. 

808
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:53,500
You know, I'm like what in the 
world? 

809
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,300
Yeah, that's why I it's such. 
You know, it all comes back to 

810
00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:01,400
having sub this when there's the
Stars Are Never Gonna line, you 

811
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
know, you never going to be 
faced with like the perfect 

812
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,600
scenario to get on the diet and 
start the lifestyle and make it 

813
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:08,300
work for you. 
There's always going to be that 

814
00:47:08,300 --> 00:47:12,400
distraction but you gotta once I
mean you're wise got to be more 

815
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:15,000
important in bigger than that 
sheet cake and so needy, you 

816
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,200
know, and if you have that 
Outlook from the onset and then 

817
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,100
you can succeed with it. 
If you don't then you're just 

818
00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:23,600
going to be met by failure and 
failure again and that's just 

819
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,100
going to be discouraging. 
Mmm. 

820
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:27,700
Yeah. 
Lutely, you know. 

821
00:47:27,700 --> 00:47:31,200
And, and you know, that's, you 
know what? 

822
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,800
Yeah, as you talked about before
and, you know, people say well, 

823
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,000
how do I get started? 
I'm like, well, I mean, you 

824
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,200
know, start with start with the 
smallest thing you can, which 

825
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,600
is, yeah, I usually will tell 
people. 

826
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,400
Hey, if you can start off with 
removing as many processed foods

827
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,300
as you can, you know, just 
highly processed, highly 

828
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:55,100
refined, you know, Foods as 
possible. 

829
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:56,700
You know, that would get you at 
least. 

830
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,900
Kind of going in that direction 
as far as looking at food labels

831
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:02,200
and looking at what's in your 
meal and maybe even doing some 

832
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,700
more cooking and you know, put 
being more mindful of what 

833
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:07,800
you're actually putting in your 
body, you know. 

834
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,600
And then after you get going on 
that then say, okay let's start 

835
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:12,700
looking at how many carbs are in
this? 

836
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,200
How much sugar is in this and 
say? 

837
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:17,200
Oh, you know, that is beyond a 
certain threshold, then I 

838
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,400
probably shouldn't eat that and 
maybe replace it with something 

839
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:24,100
else and then, you know, start 
honing in more and more to a 

840
00:48:24,100 --> 00:48:27,000
finer point to the point where 
now you do have a An 

841
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,300
understanding of the diet and, 
and so on and the nutrition 

842
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:35,600
that's required. 
And I just kind of go from there

843
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,100
small steps, you know, and then 
as far as meals, you know, if 

844
00:48:38,100 --> 00:48:42,000
you happen to be somebody that's
you know that maybe does three 

845
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
meals a day you know and but 
then you snack in between I'm 

846
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,100
like alright well start off with
just you know do your three 

847
00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:51,200
meals a day but then get rid of 
the snacks and then improve 

848
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,700
those three meals say if you 
have you know a car behind a 

849
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:57,700
carb heavy breakfast. 
Just So, you know what? 

850
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,500
I'm going to start, you know, 
eating some, some eggs and 

851
00:49:00,500 --> 00:49:04,100
sausage and, you know, leaving 
out all that other bread and 

852
00:49:04,300 --> 00:49:07,200
pastries and whatever else or, 
you know, get away from cereal 

853
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,700
and all the crazy yogurts that 
have tons of sugar in them and 

854
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:12,900
just start there. 
And then, like, okay, so do 

855
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,300
that, maybe for a few days and 
then say, oh you know what, I'm 

856
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:17,700
also going to fix my lunch and 
then then you can work on 

857
00:49:17,700 --> 00:49:19,800
dinner. 
So there's a tons that there's 

858
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,400
hundreds of different ways to 
get into it, as, you know, but, 

859
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,100
you know, start somewhere. 
Start just, that's all you have 

860
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:30,900
to do is It's crazy to me that 
that people aren't initially. 

861
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:35,900
Motivated simply for the sole 
reason of knowing their body 

862
00:49:35,900 --> 00:49:39,400
more. 
I mean like with me being 

863
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:43,500
adapted, you know for years 
tricky do like I can eat, you 

864
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:47,000
know four ounces of an avocado 
and I could tell you exactly how

865
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,700
and when my body is going to 
respond and my senses of just 

866
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:54,200
they just heightened to a whole 
nother level. 

867
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,300
I mean, I'm so in tune with my 
body. 

868
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,100
You know, needs requires 
responds and reacts to and that 

869
00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:02,000
is that, that is power. 
You know, that is power at my 

870
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,800
fingertips. 
I know how I'm going to feel 

871
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:08,200
three days from now before I 
even get there and people go 

872
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,200
through life, you know, they 
have a stomach ache today. 

873
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:12,800
They have like digestive 
problems. 

874
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,700
They didn't feel good yesterday.
Everything's just had a flux. 

875
00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:17,900
You don't know, you have to plan
your day around how you feel. 

876
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,000
I know how I'm gonna feel. 
I'm going to feel great and I 

877
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,000
can tweak things to feel a 
certain way like that and alone 

878
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,700
to me is enough motivation to 
want to become. 

879
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,800
More in tune with your body and 
you become more in tune with 

880
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:32,100
your body by. 
You know, tweaking one small 

881
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:34,300
thing at a time. 
But then, just introducing 

882
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,100
Quality Foods, like sugar 
desensitizes, everything like 

883
00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:40,600
you can't like you. 
Seriously, like it, it skews 

884
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,200
your hunger hormones. 
Excuse instant response. 

885
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,100
Obviously like you're hungrier 
than you actually are in your 

886
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:50,000
body needs to be and you're just
really out of touch with what 

887
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,300
your body's demands are. 
But when you switch over to 

888
00:50:52,300 --> 00:50:56,000
aikido and you're eating quality
Whole Foods, I mean I've become 

889
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,300
like my flavors. 
A ver centers have become 

890
00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:00,000
enhance. 
Like I'm a freaking connoisseurs

891
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,400
of 100% dark chocolate and I 
could tell you exactly the 

892
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,000
different types and flavors of 
dark chocolate and like I would 

893
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,200
never been able to do that 
before. 

894
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:09,600
Oh yeah, man, you can get a 
whiff of it. 

895
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:12,500
You're like, oh we got over 
there, you know, the dark 

896
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:15,300
chocolate. 
Yeah, exactly. 

897
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,500
Good stuff man. 
That sounds smells like the 98%.

898
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:20,800
All right. 
Well, you know, that's still 

899
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,500
pretty good. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

900
00:51:23,900 --> 00:51:27,800
No, I mean exactly what you're 
saying there as far as I'm sure 

901
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,500
you've heard this before and I 
hear quite frequently as you 

902
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:35,600
start talking about nutrition 
and the advantages to it and you

903
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,800
know why you do it and for 
health and feeling better and 

904
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,700
just all the things you just 
listed off as far as being in 

905
00:51:41,700 --> 00:51:46,100
tune with how you are and all 
the positive health, feedbacks 

906
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:49,900
or lifestyle, feedbacks as well.
But then you know some people's 

907
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:52,400
reply to that is like oh well 
you know it doesn't really 

908
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:56,400
bother me, you know like don't 
really bother me like, you know,

909
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:59,200
I don't Early notice anything 
or, you know, even like, you 

910
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,500
know, gluten and Grains and all 
that kind of stuff. 

911
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:03,900
Oh no, it doesn't bother me 
really well. 

912
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:05,800
How do you know, if you never 
tried it? 

913
00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:10,000
You know, I always challenge 
people on like Not challenge, 

914
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,300
that sounds abrasive but I say 
hey man you know just you know 

915
00:52:14,300 --> 00:52:17,400
if you if you you know want Just
for kicks man. 

916
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,600
Try it for a couple weeks, maybe
even 30 days if you really want 

917
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:26,000
to get crazy and I guarantee you
you will not it'll blow your 

918
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,200
mind how good you feel, you 
know, blow your mind and then 

919
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:32,300
you'll realize like holy crap, 
like that did bother me. 

920
00:52:32,700 --> 00:52:35,400
You know, it's kind of one of 
those things were you know, the 

921
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,800
old scientific analogy of the 
Frog and water. 

922
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,200
You know. 
You put a frog in warm water and

923
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,600
heat it up, it will boil itself 
to death, but if you Chuck it in

924
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:47,000
boiling water, it jumps right 
out, you know, I mean, 

925
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:51,600
nutritions, That's an apt a good
analogy that I like to use is 

926
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,200
that man if you've been used to 
poor nutrition and just 

927
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,800
bombarding your body for all 
these years you know you don't 

928
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:04,000
even you lose touch of saying oh
man you know I was on the can 

929
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,700
half this morning because at 
last night I went out and took 

930
00:53:06,700 --> 00:53:09,400
down all those beer and chicken 
wings last night, you know? 

931
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,000
Yeah. 
And you know of course that's 

932
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:16,200
another facet to you know like 
with what would become as a 

933
00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,900
society were you know. 
You know, people and I don't 

934
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:23,700
mean to bag on folks that need 
medication because some people 

935
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:27,200
truly need them and they have to
have them myself included for, 

936
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:33,100
you know, my diabetes but, you 
know, we've become a culture of,

937
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,700
you know, pills and procedures. 
And unfortunately, there's a lot

938
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:39,100
of Physicians and that's all 
they know because that's all 

939
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,800
they were trained. 
When they were in medical 

940
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:43,800
school. 
They were, they didn't have time

941
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,600
to learn nutrition because they 
were too tied up with trying to,

942
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,500
you know, learn how to Save 
lives on the acute Spectrum, not

943
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:53,700
the 20-year Spectrum, you know. 
Yeah. 

944
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,400
Absolutely. 
It's not their fault and I don't

945
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,700
blame them for it, I don't think
there's a doctor out there, 

946
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:03,000
that's, you know, a good moral 
standing, that's maliciously 

947
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,700
doing this, but there's a lot of
them that are not informed and 

948
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:10,700
because they must comply with 
clinical standards standards of 

949
00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:13,200
care or whatever else, it might 
be. 

950
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:18,700
They can't recommend or they 
don't know to recommend changes 

951
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:22,600
in health and you know and us as
a society you know we're okay 

952
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:23,700
with that. 
It's kind of like going back to 

953
00:54:23,700 --> 00:54:26,200
the beer and chicken wings. 
I mean you know when's the last 

954
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,800
time you saw his Zantac or a 
Prilosec OTC commercial where 

955
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,200
they're sitting there slamming 
burritos and chicken wings and I

956
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:35,500
like just take this pill and 
then you don't have heartburn 

957
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:38,100
it's like or you could not eat 
the Flaming burrito that you 

958
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:42,000
just scarfed down, you know? 
Yeah, it's a I don't know, man, 

959
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,500
like people. 
It's very, very short-sighted 

960
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,100
with it, with people's way of 
thinking, when it comes to 

961
00:54:48,107 --> 00:54:50,600
things like this, and I don't 
know, I play the long game with 

962
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,400
with everything I do in life, 
every single thing. 

963
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:56,300
I look at it from a long-term 
perspective and people not keto 

964
00:54:56,300 --> 00:54:58,900
a lot because they say, oh, it's
too restrictive. 

965
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:00,800
It's too limiting, the best 
diets, the one that you can 

966
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,700
sustain, you know, for, for a 
lifetime. 

967
00:55:03,700 --> 00:55:06,900
And it, I look at those 
arguments and I look around the 

968
00:55:06,900 --> 00:55:09,300
item like this is going to be 
the easiest out in the world to 

969
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:11,700
sustain for a lifetime because 
I'm not motivated do any other 

970
00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:15,900
diet, right. 
I mean My I want the long-term 

971
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:18,800
health and honestly the 
short-term Health to that, I get

972
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:24,100
from this, that would not be 
there, had a, you know, had the 

973
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,400
beer and chicken wings and just 
the living on the short term. 

974
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:32,400
Whereas now I'm playing to win. 
You know, when I'm 80 and that 

975
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,000
to me, is more motivating than 
the short-term, you know, 

976
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,100
Splurge that I could subject 
myself to, but I just don't want

977
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:43,200
to Oh yeah. 
Absolutely, you know, and you 

978
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,700
know, like what you're said, the
longevity man, that that's, 

979
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:49,900
that's what I guess. 
Is a major aspiration for me, 

980
00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:52,500
you know, like going back into 
like training and weight 

981
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:55,500
training and you know, outdoor 
activities and stuff. 

982
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:58,300
You know, people say, well what 
do you train for? 

983
00:55:58,300 --> 00:56:01,500
Like why are you in the gym or 
why are you out training or I 

984
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:02,200
go? 
I tell him. 

985
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,900
I trained for Life, man. 
I mean, you know, for yourself 

986
00:56:04,900 --> 00:56:09,600
as a competitive, you know 
bodybuilder and you know, you 

987
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:13,200
have a Petition. 
But everything that you do both,

988
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,700
you know, nutritionally and in 
the gym is going to have is 

989
00:56:17,700 --> 00:56:21,800
going to pay great deals of 
dividends on down the road, you 

990
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,000
know. 
So you also I think our training

991
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,200
for for life. 
I mean, you know, I mean, I 

992
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,700
train for life because you know,
I want to be that guy. 

993
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:33,500
That's the seven year old dude, 
that still banging out some 

994
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:36,300
some, you know, some solid 
workouts in the gym. 

995
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,300
And I don't want to be that, you
know, decrepit, old person that 

996
00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:41,100
can't get around. 
And, and can't get up and down 

997
00:56:41,100 --> 00:56:44,300
the stairs and all that kind of 
stuff simply because, you know, 

998
00:56:44,900 --> 00:56:48,100
I spent a lifetime treating my 
body like a, you know, 

999
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,100
ridiculous community park and, 
you know, now, I wonder why I'm 

1000
00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:52,500
50. 
And I'm on a handful of 

1001
00:56:52,508 --> 00:56:54,900
medications, every morning, and 
I can't get out of the chair 

1002
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,000
without cracking for bones, you 
know. 

1003
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:59,800
Yeah, exactly. 
And and, and that's not the 

1004
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,600
sound judge. 
No, I mean, I don't want it. 

1005
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:02,600
Like, blasty. 
What? 

1006
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,100
That be like, man, this guy's a 
jackass, but I'm just saying, 

1007
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:11,400
that's my, that's my goal, you 
know, like You know, I was out 

1008
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:14,300
hiking the other summer and you 
know, there are these two dudes.

1009
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:18,600
You know, they're probably in 
their mid 70s but they got full 

1010
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:21,300
packs on full backpacks. 
They're out for a week-long. 

1011
00:57:21,300 --> 00:57:25,000
Backpacking trip they had quads 
that would probably impress you 

1012
00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:28,600
and these guys were just out 
doing it man and they're just 

1013
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,800
having a great old time and I'm 
like that's the guy I want to 

1014
00:57:31,808 --> 00:57:33,900
be. 
Yeah, hundred percent. 

1015
00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:37,100
I mean like I don't know man. 
Like a lot of people they say, 

1016
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,900
well you only live once he I 
live in the moment. 

1017
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:41,800
You know why you worried about 
what you Like when you're 70 and

1018
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,800
to them, I say, you know, I feel
better in the here and now when 

1019
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,800
I know I'm being the best, I can
be in the here and now like I 

1020
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,300
don't want to sacrifice, you 
know, on a 24-hour period. 

1021
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:58,200
Like, I don't know, people, 
people don't want to sacrifice 

1022
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:03,700
anything and sacrificing, you 
know, that candy or that cake. 

1023
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,700
It makes you haven't 
sub-discipline, man. 

1024
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:09,900
Like I don't know, like I do, 
I'm gonna self-discipline kicker

1025
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:13,200
I've always been on a 
sub-discipline cake but people 

1026
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:19,800
they don't want to be 
uncomfortable and I don't know 

1027
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:21,900
that. 
That's that's that's powerful at

1028
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:24,200
itself right there. 
Like you're able to be 

1029
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,500
sub-discipline, be okay with me,
uncomfortable sacrificing, this 

1030
00:58:28,500 --> 00:58:31,200
superficial stuff, your life you
don't need anyways and you 

1031
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,300
perform better on the day to day
and you push yourself and you 

1032
00:58:34,308 --> 00:58:37,000
strive to be better tomorrow 
than you were today. 

1033
00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,900
That that's not a bad thing 
that's not in people. 

1034
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,500
Oil people want to turn their 
nose up at you because I just 

1035
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:44,900
trying to make themselves feel 
better about them. 

1036
00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:47,300
You know, you gotta, you gotta 
do you and be the best you can 

1037
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:49,700
be in if you go to sleep at 
night feeling proud of your 

1038
00:58:49,700 --> 00:58:52,300
citizens that you made that day,
then there's nothing to hang 

1039
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:56,500
your head about. 
Oh yeah for sure man I totally 

1040
00:58:56,500 --> 00:59:00,000
agree with all of that. 
And yeah I mean it's not 

1041
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
restrictive. 
It's more like I look at it just

1042
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400
like, you know, when going back 
to when, you know, sitting in a 

1043
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,000
hospital bed, got the news, I 
had diabetes and I mean, yeah, 

1044
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,500
you could sit there and focus on
what you just lost. 

1045
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:13,500
But what about all the good 
stuff that you gain, you know, 

1046
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,000
all the positive health benefits
of this lifestyle, you know, all

1047
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:23,400
the long-term health benefits. 
Yeah, man, I mean it's just it's

1048
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,600
so far. 
Reaching and, you know, for the 

1049
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,100
folks that you know that 
diabetics or maybe this will 

1050
00:59:28,100 --> 00:59:31,600
make it towards the towards the 
you know, diabetic community and

1051
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,000
in or someone will hear this, I 
just can't express how much 

1052
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:41,200
better it is, you know, you 
know, and that's not to say I'm 

1053
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,500
better. 
It's not to say you don't need 

1054
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,800
to modify slightly for your 
needs and your life and your 

1055
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,800
body. 
You know, that's where I go back

1056
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,000
into the read the whole book 
because, you know, as you know, 

1057
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,400
you got to modify a little bit 
depending on what your activity 

1058
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,100
level is. 
Liz. 

1059
00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:57,600
And if you have medications and 
how your body responds to 

1060
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,400
various nutrient intake. 
But man, you know, if you can 

1061
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,900
just get yourself away from that
carbohydrate train, man, you're 

1062
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:10,100
just setting yourself up for 
such a better life in for the 

1063
01:00:10,100 --> 01:00:16,000
diabetes, and for the type ones,
you know, again, you know, take 

1064
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:20,100
that initiative to find out for 
yourself. 

1065
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:25,800
And, you know, Take that 
initiative to really find out. 

1066
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,300
Okay, what is this insulin 
really do you know, how does it 

1067
01:00:28,300 --> 01:00:31,300
respond? 
What is it doing to my body and 

1068
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:33,800
take that control and take your 
life back? 

1069
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,100
Because, you know, again, I see 
it all the time on social media 

1070
01:00:38,100 --> 01:00:40,400
posts and you know, Facebook and
all this. 

1071
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:42,200
Where there's just people on 
there and they're just 

1072
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,200
struggling man and I feel for 
them and I don't want to shame 

1073
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:49,200
them but I'm just like man you 
know, you know, did nobody or 

1074
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,700
have you not you know, taking 
the time to Figure out like, 

1075
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:56,100
what is one unit of insulin do 
at this time of day? 

1076
01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,000
You know, or what is this do to 
my body? 

1077
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:01,000
And, you know, they're kind of 
at the mercy of going in there 

1078
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:03,800
endocrinologist, once every 
three months, if they're lucky 

1079
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:08,000
and trying to figure out what's 
going wrong in a 15 or 30 minute

1080
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,300
long office, visit and then 
going out for another three to 

1081
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:14,000
six months and seeing if that 
helps, you know, and it's like 

1082
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:18,000
man if you just take the 
initiative to educate yourself 

1083
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:22,300
on nutrition and your medication
that can, it's quite honestly 

1084
01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:28,000
Lethal, you know, you think that
would be enough motivation to 

1085
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,500
figure that out and it's never 
too late, you know? 

1086
01:01:30,500 --> 01:01:32,800
I mean, if people are sitting 
there like, cause this guy, 

1087
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,600
again, he's being a jackass. 
I'm like, no, man. 

1088
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,900
I just want some people to hear 
this and maybe rattle their cage

1089
01:01:38,900 --> 01:01:43,200
enough to be like, oh man, you 
know like yeah, you know, I 

1090
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,800
should, I should figure this 
out, you know, that's all I hope

1091
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:47,100
for. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1092
01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:51,900
I mean you or I are trying to 
tell people, they should be like

1093
01:01:51,900 --> 01:01:55,600
us like So we're trying to do, 
you know, we're just trying to 

1094
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,300
help people be the best that 
they can be. 

1095
01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:00,000
That's going to look different 
for everybody, you know? 

1096
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:04,200
Like I don't like I get on like 
a mindset motivational kick and 

1097
01:02:04,300 --> 01:02:06,300
people think that I'm being 
judgmental towards them. 

1098
01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:09,400
That's not the case at all. 
Like, I look at what I'm doing 

1099
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,700
on a day-to-day basis. 
And I know what I, you know, 

1100
01:02:11,700 --> 01:02:14,600
what standards I subject myself 
to, everybody's got their own 

1101
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,400
standards, everybody's got their
own perspectives, their 

1102
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:21,100
perspectives are their 
realities, and everybody knows 

1103
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:25,300
what the best they can be. 
Be for themselves is and I just 

1104
01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:27,800
encourage people to be that, you
know, be the best that they can 

1105
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:29,400
be. 
And if that means, you know, 

1106
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,600
spending an extra hour a day 
doing your homework figuring out

1107
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,300
a little bit about this, you 
know, diet or their nutrition or

1108
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,500
insulin if they're diabetic and 
just kind of dive into why 

1109
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:41,000
things work, what they can do to
improve their current state. 

1110
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:44,100
I mean, that's that's all I'm 
asking if anybody just to simply

1111
01:02:44,100 --> 01:02:46,500
be the best that they can be 
with the time that they have the

1112
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:48,800
resources they have. 
Yeah. 

1113
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:54,500
Absolutely you know and yeah, 
yeah, yeah, I mean and that that

1114
01:02:54,500 --> 01:02:57,800
is, you know, that is power, you
know, and that you know, 

1115
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,400
knowledge that's the old, you 
know, adage knowledge is power, 

1116
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:03,800
you know. 
And a lot of times, especially 

1117
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:08,800
in this world, I mean, heck man,
you got a cell phone or, you 

1118
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,200
know, I mean, there's so much 
knowledge. 

1119
01:03:11,300 --> 01:03:13,900
Now you gotta, you know, sift 
through it because there's a lot

1120
01:03:13,900 --> 01:03:17,300
of bad stuff out there too. 
But there's so much knowledge 

1121
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:19,800
it's available and it's Free in 
it. 

1122
01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:23,600
It's not expensive, man. 
You don't have to go and do, you

1123
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:28,000
know, six week course for $1200 
or you know this or that there's

1124
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,000
so much knowledge that's 
available. 

1125
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:33,500
You know, that is just it's 
right there man. 

1126
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:35,500
You just got to go get it. 
Yeah. 

1127
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:37,700
And and and that's that's whose 
responsibility. 

1128
01:03:37,700 --> 01:03:39,500
It falls in like they're 
endocrinologist, doesn't owe 

1129
01:03:39,500 --> 01:03:41,400
them anything. 
Their parents don't owe them. 

1130
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:42,600
Anything and doctors aren't 
worth anything. 

1131
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:44,900
It's all up to them, you know, 
the individual. 

1132
01:03:44,900 --> 01:03:48,200
Like, it's their life. 
It's in their hands. 

1133
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:52,500
And and they have the power to 
make or break it basically. 

1134
01:03:53,300 --> 01:03:54,300
Oh yeah. 
Absolutely. 

1135
01:03:54,300 --> 01:04:01,200
And and you know that the 
rewards are our massive, not 

1136
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,400
just for yourself but I mean 
think about it. 

1137
01:04:03,500 --> 01:04:05,900
Sometimes people will say oh 
man, you know, being interested 

1138
01:04:05,900 --> 01:04:08,800
in nutrition and health and all 
this kind of stuff. 

1139
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,000
Again I think it's in, it's in, 
it's in it an excuse mechanism 

1140
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:17,400
where people who don't want to 
take the are they don't have the

1141
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:20,100
motivation or Maybe they're 
looking for their own excuse, 

1142
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,600
they say all well, that's out, 
you're being selfish. 

1143
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,800
You know, you're being 
self-absorbed or absorbed. 

1144
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,600
I'm sorry. 
You know, it's a selfish Pursuit

1145
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:31,800
and I'm like, you know, I mean, 
there is part of that that is, 

1146
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,700
yeah, you're taking care of 
yourself but I'm a firm 

1147
01:04:34,700 --> 01:04:36,600
believer. 
And if you're a better person 

1148
01:04:36,700 --> 01:04:39,500
that's going to that's going to 
Cascade down upon everyone else 

1149
01:04:39,500 --> 01:04:42,400
around you and everything you 
do, you're going to be able to 

1150
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,500
be a better person in everything
you do. 

1151
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:50,400
Absolutely. 
You know, and you know, I think 

1152
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,700
that's another thing too. 
You know, if you have a family, 

1153
01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:56,900
if you have kids, if you have, 
you know, business Pursuits, if 

1154
01:04:56,900 --> 01:05:00,500
you have whatever that, you 
know, you want to excel at, you 

1155
01:05:00,500 --> 01:05:05,800
know, I firmly believe that one 
of the, you know, a key 

1156
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:10,300
component of excelling and 
achieving optimal results. 

1157
01:05:10,300 --> 01:05:15,100
Not just mediocre results is, 
you know, you gotta you gotta 

1158
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:18,300
fix yourself first and then, you
know, hopefully That Improvement

1159
01:05:18,300 --> 01:05:20,500
will Cascade amongst other 
things. 

1160
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,800
I completely agree, man. 
That's I don't like, if you, if 

1161
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,100
you feel good about yourself, 
you're confident who you are as 

1162
01:05:28,107 --> 01:05:30,600
an individual. 
If you feel like you have the 

1163
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:35,300
ability to share a story or tell
somebody else's of something 

1164
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:38,500
that you've learned or realize 
through your out, your own 

1165
01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:40,900
journey. 
And and even if even if they 

1166
01:05:40,900 --> 01:05:45,500
kind of turn their head to that,
if it just like plants a seed 

1167
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,900
and that that grows or Maybe it 
gets them interested enough to 

1168
01:05:48,900 --> 01:05:50,600
do a little digging on their own
their own. 

1169
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,600
You know, that, that could be a 
potential, potentially, a huge 

1170
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:55,400
thing. 
I mean, you, you lost your 

1171
01:05:55,408 --> 01:05:59,600
wings, you hadn't flown, you 
know, commercially for 34 years 

1172
01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:02,100
now, you thought, probably at 
the time that you're adding the 

1173
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:05,300
most value by doing that, you 
know, offering that as a 

1174
01:06:05,308 --> 01:06:08,300
service. 
Whereas now I'd venture to say 

1175
01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:12,900
that you've been able to impact,
significantly more people, You 

1176
01:06:12,900 --> 01:06:14,200
know, doing this what you're 
doing. 

1177
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:18,300
Now being on podcast being open,
you know, talking to that 25 

1178
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:21,500
year old girl to gym like just 
doing that and spreading the 

1179
01:06:21,500 --> 01:06:22,900
word. 
And that that's going to kind 

1180
01:06:22,900 --> 01:06:26,900
of, you know, exponentially grow
far beyond you can even imagine 

1181
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,200
Yeah I mean yeah I hope so and 
yeah that's one of the things 

1182
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,500
were, you know, I mean, I'm more
of a in a instructor / teacher 

1183
01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:40,300
role now, you know, it work and 
it's sort of like the reason why

1184
01:06:40,300 --> 01:06:43,600
I have that job at work now is 
because prior to, you know, 

1185
01:06:43,700 --> 01:06:49,100
losing my medical, you know, I 
had, I don't know in excess of 

1186
01:06:49,100 --> 01:06:53,400
15,000 hours in the air. 
You know, I'm hoping I can 

1187
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,100
portray or, you know, present 
some of that experience and 

1188
01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,100
knowledge that I gained. 
On a professional, Evan leveled 

1189
01:07:00,100 --> 01:07:03,500
to my students and then now that
I'm starting to hone in on Civil

1190
01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:08,400
War, experience and knowledge, 
you know, for diabetics and just

1191
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,800
other people in general, you 
know, that are non diabetics 

1192
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,200
that maybe that'll happen a 
positive effect on them. 

1193
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,500
And like you said, it's not a 
matter of, you know, going at it

1194
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,900
from the standpoint of you know,
what we're doing is better and 

1195
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:23,800
you either you're with us or 
you're not and you know if 

1196
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,700
you're not then you're somehow, 
you know, not a as At a person 

1197
01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:31,100
or something. 
It's a matter of like, oh man, 

1198
01:07:31,100 --> 01:07:33,400
you know, this is great and we 
want it, we're excited, we want 

1199
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,200
to share it, and we want you to 
feel good too. 

1200
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:39,200
And if maybe we can help you 
shortcut, some of the pitfalls 

1201
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:42,300
that we experienced, you know, 
isn't that? 

1202
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:44,700
I mean, isn't that a good thing,
you know? 

1203
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:48,800
Yeah, absolutely. 
So, yeah, now you're doing the 

1204
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:50,100
right man. 
You didn't write a hundred 

1205
01:07:50,100 --> 01:07:53,400
percent, you get the right 
intentions and you're coming 

1206
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:57,700
from the right place and I'm I'm
happy to have you on the podcast

1207
01:07:57,700 --> 01:08:00,300
here because I don't know, I 
think a lot of people would 

1208
01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:02,200
benefit from your story, but we 
did. 

1209
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:04,200
We just kind of went under 
mindset Rabbit Hole, I always 

1210
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,500
kind of go back to my know, I 
love, I love talking mindset. 

1211
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:10,900
Oh yeah, I think it's a huge 
Factor, you know. 

1212
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:18,100
Yeah, 100% 100% well, cool, man.
What can people go to find out 

1213
01:08:18,108 --> 01:08:19,600
more about you kind of follow 
your journey? 

1214
01:08:20,899 --> 01:08:27,800
Yeah, so you know, I've kind of 
do some Twitter, basically what 

1215
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:32,000
I've been doing on there is like
posting some of my, you know, 

1216
01:08:34,100 --> 01:08:37,100
some of my like blood glucose 
values and like some of my 

1217
01:08:37,100 --> 01:08:41,500
continuous glucose monitor 
tracks and you know, like before

1218
01:08:41,500 --> 01:08:44,899
during and like after some of my
training and then like, you 

1219
01:08:44,907 --> 01:08:47,800
know, mountain bike races and 
you know, mountain bike training

1220
01:08:48,100 --> 01:08:51,300
again, just as an example to 
say, Hey, you know, you can 

1221
01:08:51,300 --> 01:08:54,800
perform as a low-carbohydrate 
athlete, you know, so people can

1222
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,000
maybe Be check that out or every
once awhile. 

1223
01:08:57,000 --> 01:08:59,899
Maybe I'll if I find something 
out that's kind of cool. 

1224
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:04,700
Thats related to health and 
nutrition or diabetes management

1225
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:07,100
or an article. 
You know I'll share that on 

1226
01:09:07,100 --> 01:09:09,600
Twitter. 
I'm not you know, Super Active, 

1227
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,700
you know because like I say I 
got a I got a full-time job so 

1228
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:15,899
I'm not going nuts on there but 
I do like to post on there once 

1229
01:09:15,899 --> 01:09:22,200
in a while and that's just a 
capital T 1 and then flyer. 

1230
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:27,600
So capital T and then the number
one and And flyer is my Twitter 

1231
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:30,800
and then I don't have a website 
or anything mainly because I'm 

1232
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,500
just you know, I'm just I'm just
a guy man. 

1233
01:09:33,500 --> 01:09:37,300
I'm just out there trying to 
make it by so I don't have I'm 

1234
01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:40,300
not running a website or 
anything like that but um, you 

1235
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:44,300
know, maybe in the show notes, 
you know, I could I could maybe 

1236
01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:47,500
put my or if you get in touch 
with me on Twitter and you're 

1237
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:50,800
interested, you know, I can get 
you my email that way, you know,

1238
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,300
if you have basic questions for 
me but I guess the one thing to 

1239
01:09:54,300 --> 01:09:56,200
bear in mind. 
There's that again, I'm not a 

1240
01:09:56,300 --> 01:10:00,000
professional on the on the side 
of, you know, doing this for a 

1241
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,800
living. 
So you know, I know, right. 

1242
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:06,600
I have to monitor monitor my 
time, but I definitely want to 

1243
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:09,600
help folks or if you have some 
quick questions or something or 

1244
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:12,900
just want to connect, you know, 
I'd be more than happy to help 

1245
01:10:12,900 --> 01:10:15,800
folks out with that, you know. 
Well, Lincoln Twitter for sure, 

1246
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,700
Twitter, I think you can send a 
direct message in there. 

1247
01:10:18,700 --> 01:10:21,500
Something they can message in 
there to get in touch with you. 

1248
01:10:22,300 --> 01:10:25,900
Yeah, absolutely. 
And I guess just one last final 

1249
01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:30,600
thing or I don't know how much 
time you got, but I just want to

1250
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,300
put a couple of not really plugs
in but just some resources I 

1251
01:10:34,300 --> 01:10:35,900
found that we're really 
beneficial. 

1252
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:42,700
One of them is run is a website 
called diabetic muscle and 

1253
01:10:42,700 --> 01:10:48,000
fitness and it's basically it's 
even if you're not diabetic 

1254
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,600
there's some awesome information
on there for weight training and

1255
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:56,700
various Plans in nutrition. 
And they are, they aren't our 

1256
01:10:56,700 --> 01:11:01,400
that that website isn't focused 
on low carbohydrate ketoprofen. 

1257
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:07,800
Say, but there's some really 
solid physiology and training 

1258
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,500
information on there, they 
guided, that started it. 

1259
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:15,700
Phil Gramm was a art is still 
heavily involved in the fitness 

1260
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:20,300
industry over in the UK, and he 
was a professional bodybuilder 

1261
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:24,700
as a type one. 
And so he's you know, very well 

1262
01:11:24,700 --> 01:11:28,200
versed and he actually has 
multiple degrees and Sports 

1263
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,800
Nutrition and Physiology and 
biology. 

1264
01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:34,000
So he's very well educated and 
he has a lot of really good 

1265
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:37,900
information on there. 
So if you're diabetic weather 

1266
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:41,400
type 1 or type 2 and you want to
get some information on 

1267
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,800
exercising and weight, training,
and nutrition, and how to manage

1268
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:50,200
your, you know, different types 
of insulin, or insulin 

1269
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,400
therapies, and His glucose blood
glucose monitors. 

1270
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:59,100
And there's lots of training 
modules on there and videos and 

1271
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:02,700
articles and interviews with 
various doctors and people in 

1272
01:12:02,700 --> 01:12:06,800
the industry it's an awesome 
website. 

1273
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,200
And what was the name of one 
more time? 

1274
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:11,500
It's called a diabetic muscle 
and fitness. 

1275
01:12:11,700 --> 01:12:13,100
Okay. 
I'll link it to that one as well

1276
01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:17,000
for sure. 
Yeah and yeah I mean I bet Phil 

1277
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,000
Gramm would be an awesome guy to
have on your website. 

1278
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:20,900
Yeah I mean three death, reach 
out to him. 

1279
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:24,600
Yeah, he's he's really good and 
he actually put out a book to 

1280
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,800
that's called the diabetic 
muscle and fitness guide. 

1281
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:28,900
That's an old, it almost reads 
like a textbook. 

1282
01:12:28,900 --> 01:12:32,800
I mean, it's super informative, 
some really good physiology and 

1283
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,600
they're so that's a really good 
resource that, you know, again 

1284
01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:39,200
for the diabetics out there that
want to start educating 

1285
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,400
themselves. 
I think that's an awesome one, 

1286
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:45,900
and again, they support that 
whole mindset of take 

1287
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:48,300
responsibility, educate 
yourself. 

1288
01:12:48,300 --> 01:12:51,000
And then there's really nothing 
that you can say that can stop 

1289
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,000
you. 
Long as you have the information

1290
01:12:53,500 --> 01:12:56,600
and the knowledge to be 
successful and you know he's a 

1291
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,100
big proponent of you know you 
got to own up you know if you 

1292
01:13:00,100 --> 01:13:03,000
have a bad day or you don't 
train or you go off the rails on

1293
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,300
your diet, don't point the 
finger at somebody else and say,

1294
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:10,200
well, it's because of this or 
because you know I got slammed 

1295
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,500
at work or home a known. 
It just say, look, you know, I 

1296
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:17,200
effed up today or I didn't have 
a great day today, I went off 

1297
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:18,300
the rails. 
You know what? 

1298
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:20,100
I'm going to wake up tomorrow, 
I'm going to hit it hard. 

1299
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:23,400
I'm going to be back on. 
Rails, you know like I'm ready. 

1300
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,100
Yeah man. 
I mean it's good, you know and 

1301
01:13:26,108 --> 01:13:29,300
he puts out little there's a 
Facebook group that's also the 

1302
01:13:29,300 --> 01:13:31,600
same name. 
That's has some really 

1303
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:35,900
supportive folks in there. 
It's a really great community. 

1304
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:39,700
And of course the Facebook group
is free. 

1305
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:44,700
I think if you actually join the
call to the training lab, but 

1306
01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:48,800
it's like $11 a month and it 
gives you access to all the 

1307
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:53,000
content, all the training plans,
All the nutrition stuff all of 

1308
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,000
it and it's good. 
It's not keto. 

1309
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,900
It's not low carbs per se, but 
they do talk about 

1310
01:13:57,900 --> 01:14:03,700
low-carbohydrate ketogenic diets
and they don't, they don't, I 

1311
01:14:03,700 --> 01:14:08,700
guess over sell it, but they 
also don't discourage it and 

1312
01:14:08,700 --> 01:14:11,900
they say, no, it's a very viable
option here are some things to 

1313
01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:15,100
be concerned with so that you 
again, have the knowledge to 

1314
01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:17,600
safely, do it, you know, because
that is another thing that 

1315
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,100
diabetics and type ones in 
particular often. 

1316
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:26,000
I steered away from the low-carb
ketogenic diet because they're 

1317
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:29,700
sold on this Fear Factor of, oh,
you could have this unexpected 

1318
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:32,200
low blood sugar, what's called 
hypoglycemia? 

1319
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,300
Well, I mean, if you know what 
you're doing with your insulin 

1320
01:14:35,300 --> 01:14:37,000
and you know, what you're doing 
with your diet, there's no 

1321
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:38,500
reason. 
I mean I haven't had a 

1322
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:43,600
significant low in two and a 
half years, you know, and I've 

1323
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,700
got no problem, you know, and 
it's completely possible. 

1324
01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:50,500
So yeah, that's one good 
website. 

1325
01:14:50,500 --> 01:14:51,600
I kind of went off on it. 
Agent. 

1326
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:54,500
They're not like you mean I'm 
not the retail team for sure. 

1327
01:14:55,100 --> 01:14:57,600
Yeah, yeah. 
He's he's done a bunch of 

1328
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,900
podcaster or interviews with 
another guy John fonte. 

1329
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:09,300
He's he runs a podcast called 
type 1 run, which is another 

1330
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:11,200
really good podcast. 
It's more for like endurance 

1331
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:16,300
athletes their type ones, but 
yeah, that's how I actually, 

1332
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:17,800
let's see. 
How do I find out about that 

1333
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:19,900
back muscle, this? 
I think it was on John's 

1334
01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,000
podcast. 
Lee and I just went in there and

1335
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:25,700
all the information I have on 
there is really legit. 

1336
01:15:25,700 --> 01:15:29,800
Now they probably you know if 
you're going on there as you 

1337
01:15:29,808 --> 01:15:34,500
know for looking for Pure 
low-carb key do stuff, you got 

1338
01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:37,200
to read between the lines 
because they don't per se 

1339
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:41,000
Advocate, just low carb keto, 
but it's in there, you know, 

1340
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,700
like they give you the tools to 
say, oh, here's what I need to 

1341
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:46,900
do with my insulin and my 
nutrition. 

1342
01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:51,100
And if I do this, I can safely 
do it and exercise as well. 

1343
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,800
And weight train and you know, 
put on some Mass put on some 

1344
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:58,600
size, get strong, you know, live
a healthy life and it's a good 

1345
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,700
message. 
So absolutely yeah, I'll take 

1346
01:16:01,700 --> 01:16:04,000
that out for sure. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1347
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:09,500
And then another book just for 
reference, that is more geared 

1348
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:14,600
towards low carbohydrate and 
ketogenic type type diets. 

1349
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,500
For a diabetics is dr. 
Richard Bernstein, he has a book

1350
01:16:18,500 --> 01:16:20,200
out. 
It's been out for a while. 

1351
01:16:21,300 --> 01:16:24,900
It's called The Diabetes 
Solution by dr. 

1352
01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:29,500
Richard Bernstein and he's an 
older guy, but it goes back into

1353
01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:35,100
the mindset kind of thing. 
He's 83, almost 84 years old 

1354
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:38,900
now, and he's been a diabetic 
since he was 16 and it goes back

1355
01:16:38,900 --> 01:16:42,000
to that those old guys hiking in
the woods, you know, like this 

1356
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:45,300
guy's an endocrinologist. 
He was an engineer. 

1357
01:16:45,300 --> 01:16:49,000
He put himself through medical 
school so that he could have 

1358
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:53,100
credibility to Implement and to 
get people to listen, to him 

1359
01:16:53,100 --> 01:16:55,900
about a low-carbohydrate diet 
and the positive effect as a 

1360
01:16:55,900 --> 01:17:00,000
diabetes control and the guys, 
you know, walking the walk man. 

1361
01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:03,200
I mean, he's 83 years old and 
has no diabetic complications. 

1362
01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:07,900
So, he's a billboard to say, if 
you control your blood sugar and

1363
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:11,000
you won't, you don't have to get
all the diabetic complications 

1364
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:12,600
provided. 
You can take control of the 

1365
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,700
disease and have normal blood 
glucose, have a, get all the 

1366
01:17:15,700 --> 01:17:17,700
respect in the world people that
are practicing with the 

1367
01:17:17,700 --> 01:17:19,300
preaching. 
So I'll check him as well. 

1368
01:17:19,900 --> 01:17:22,500
Yeah, yeah yeah. 
And then lastly, there's another

1369
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:24,900
one dr. 
Ken Runyan. 

1370
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:29,100
He's a acknowledge. 
I know, he's not can't remember 

1371
01:17:29,100 --> 01:17:32,700
if he's a tenor chronologiste or
or not. 

1372
01:17:32,700 --> 01:17:35,000
I don't think he is, he's an I 
can't remember what type of 

1373
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:37,900
physician he is. 
But he was diagnosed late. 

1374
01:17:37,900 --> 01:17:42,500
I think in his mid 30s but he's 
a triathlete and he had a 

1375
01:17:42,500 --> 01:17:46,100
similar story to mine where 
initially he was eating what he 

1376
01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:49,100
thought was healthy and then he 
wasn't getting the performance 

1377
01:17:49,100 --> 01:17:54,400
and the Not only But also the 
result on our the control of his

1378
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,700
diabetes. 
Through just what he thought was

1379
01:17:57,700 --> 01:18:02,200
good diet but in also exercise 
so he switched over to a 

1380
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:07,100
ketogenic diet and now he has 
normal blood glucose values. 

1381
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:09,900
Much better control. 
No lows, you know, excellent 

1382
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:13,900
performance as a triathlete, 
wait, trains is able to be very 

1383
01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:17,800
active and just has all the 
positive health benefits and he 

1384
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:23,500
wrote a book called The 
ketogenic diet for type 1 

1385
01:18:23,500 --> 01:18:27,200
diabetes and it's specific to 
type 1 diabetics and so it's 

1386
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,800
it's really good. 
I love it, I love it all these 

1387
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,100
resources. 
I mean like you said the more 

1388
01:18:33,100 --> 01:18:34,900
the more resources the more 
knowledge and get the better. 

1389
01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:38,500
So having these kind of an 
artillery is because it going to

1390
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:42,200
be good for sure. 
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't 

1391
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:44,300
I don't have any skin in the 
game, I'm not selling the 

1392
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:46,700
things, I don't have any 
affiliation with those folks 

1393
01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:50,200
directly, but it's just 
something that I've found, and, 

1394
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:53,300
you know, Yeah, it makes it even
better, you know, like, you 

1395
01:18:53,300 --> 01:18:56,300
know, if you've, if you've 
benefitted from him you know 

1396
01:18:56,300 --> 01:18:58,800
with no skin in the game than 
other people what as well. 

1397
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,900
Yeah, I mean I you know, and 
that's a starting space. 

1398
01:19:02,900 --> 01:19:05,900
I mean there's a lot more 
information out there and, you 

1399
01:19:05,907 --> 01:19:09,100
know, there's a lot of stuff and
podcast land, and, and other 

1400
01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:12,500
folks. 
But yeah, I mean it's and you 

1401
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:15,800
have man. 
It's just it's exciting because 

1402
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:22,300
of you know, how good or the 
quantity of positive health 

1403
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:24,500
benefits. 
It has for everyone not just, 

1404
01:19:24,500 --> 01:19:28,200
you know, diabetics but Manic 
from the diabetic standpoint 

1405
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:29,600
man. 
It can profoundly. 

1406
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,400
Wait, change your life. 
It really. 

1407
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:34,500
Can you just got it? 
You just got to man up and or 

1408
01:19:34,500 --> 01:19:37,500
woman up or do whatever off and 
get into it. 

1409
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,700
Okay, Cowboy up, man. 
That's right. 

1410
01:19:41,700 --> 01:19:43,400
I love it. 
I love it John man. 

1411
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:44,800
It's been, it's been an absolute
pleasure. 

1412
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,600
I've, I've learned a ton of, had
a, had a blast talking with. 

1413
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,100
You will have to keep in touch 
for sure. 

1414
01:19:49,100 --> 01:19:51,300
Because I don't know I like your
style, man. 

1415
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:54,000
Absolutely, man, I appreciate 
it, you know. 

1416
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,400
Hopefully it's one of those, you
know, Southern things here. 

1417
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:01,300
But yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
I I was really glad to come on 

1418
01:20:01,300 --> 01:20:05,300
the show and yeah, I like your 
message Man. 

1419
01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,800
And as everyone else is chomping
at the bit man. 

1420
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:10,500
Gotta get a hold of some of 
those keto Brooks, man. 

1421
01:20:10,500 --> 01:20:12,900
I hope you got a big case in 
this time. 

1422
01:20:13,300 --> 01:20:15,200
We're going to be we're going to
be making a bunch here very 

1423
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:16,500
soon. 
We're still waiting on some of 

1424
01:20:16,500 --> 01:20:18,500
the raw ingredients come in but 
we can be we're going to be 

1425
01:20:18,500 --> 01:20:20,500
hammering at bunch in the very 
very near future. 

1426
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:23,200
That's awesome. 
I'll get you one for sure. 

1427
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,100
All right. 
All right. 

1428
01:20:25,100 --> 01:20:26,900
Jenna until next time and I 
appreciate you. 

1429
01:20:27,700 --> 01:20:29,400
Sure, absolutely take care 
buddy.