Well, hello ladies and gents, Robert Sykes, Keto savage.com.
Today I've got special guest Theo Lussier on the line and we
dive into everything related to human health as it pertains to
some of the forgotten techniques, so to speak.
So we talk about some of the simple stuff.
We talk about dry fast, we talk about electrical charges in the
body. We talk about the dry fasting. 1
was super interesting. I am intrigued by this.
I've never done this myself, but I believe he's sold me on the
concept. I'm about to give it a shot.
We talk about different minerals, we talk about
detoxification, we talk about a lot.
I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation.
I learned a ton. I've got no doubt that you will
take something from it. So further delay, sit back,
relax, enjoy the conversation with Theo.
And we are live, Theo. How are you, brother?
I'm doing great and I love the fact that somebody fired up a
wood chipper exactly as you hit record.
Are you hearing that? Yeah, but it's not coming
through too loud, so we should be good.
OK, I'm. Going to hold this closer to my
mouth because that should take away some of that effect.
Nice. Well, it's one of the the perks
of recording outside, I guess, right?
Yeah, yeah, I normally do outside 'cause it's it's the
background is really cool and the lighting is really good.
I don't look like I'm in a jail cell or something in my office
with weird lighting. But here, here we are, man.
Here we are. So just to kind of give
listeners some context, you and I were introduced via a mutual
friend and he started out the e-mail intro with like the the
second line being both of y'all have a lot in common.
You didn't grow up with TV's. Oh yeah, forgot about that.
So you didn't grow up with the TV either?
No man, I still don't have ATVI. Don't think I'll ever have ATV.
I'm not really. Either.
ATV kind of guy. Did you have the weird thing
going over to your friends houses in grade school or or
even in high school and if the TV was on your attention was
just sucked into it? Yeah, it's, it's, it happens now
because since I've never had ATV, whenever there's one on,
like it's like this subconscious weird alien thing in my
environment and it's like I'm fixated on it.
That's why I hate going to restaurants where they've got,
you know, all the ball games going.
Like I just hate TV's, man. The screens, yeah, I noticed
that too. Even even now at 46, like if
there's one on, I kind of get pulled into IT.
People don't realize how well designed television is to grab
your attention. Yeah, it's weird to me that so
many people are totally dependent upon it.
Like I've got an an in law and she can't sleep, she can't
function unless she's got the news playing in the background.
And I'm just like, this is not only distracting in and of
itself because TV with like this background noise, but also
you're just inundated with negative energy throughout the
entirety of your existence, which is just not good for
health either. Yeah, think of the name
television. It's tell a vision.
It's programming. Yeah, I never thought about like
that. That's pretty trippy, man.
Yeah, I mean, they've had, I mean, I don't know how deep in
various rabbit holes you go, like in the conspiracy realms,
but you know, there's been patents since the 1950s to use
Flickr rate and television to affect different brain states.
And that's not even just the overt programming where they're,
you know, pushing some kind of agenda or something.
I I actually had to deprogram my mom from CNN and the fear porn
they were spreading from 2019 onwards.
And, and I finally got her off of it and and got her on some
actual alternative news sources that are that are serving her.
But it was, it was hard to break that.
Yeah, it's, it's weird, man. I think it's largely a
generational thing. People just get used to
consuming from a given medium, you know, like newspapers and
then like radio, television and then television and now it's all
social. But I feel like no matter what
generation you were grew up, you grew up in, like you got to you
got to recognize it for what it is and then block out specific
times that you do consume or, you know, really proactively
hedge against it at all. I mean, you don't want to be
ignorant. But at the same time, like for
me, I was talking about some of this the other day.
It's like, if if I'm hearing about nothing but negativity via
the various news platforms, whether it's podcast or
whatever, and it's all about things that I cannot actually
impact in that given moment, then am I benefiting at all from
having that in my psyche at all? I don't know.
No, I mean, I, I stopped watching the news or paying
attention to it a long time ago in my 20s 'cause I was, I was
really big in a self help and self help books back then.
And that was advice in some book I read somewhere and I didn't
watch it, or I've never watched it, but I didn't read it on my
phone or anything until 2020 when all that was breaking off.
And I actually had to catch myself and say, this is
ridiculous. I'm getting pulled into this
thing. And I for the first time in
probably 15 years, I bought a watch so I wouldn't look at my
phone to check the time and then get sucked into whatever agenda
they were pushing that day. Yeah, no, that's that's why.
It's why it's doing for sure, man.
Like I, I've got my phone silenced of all notifications,
the only I've got that the only time it even rings is when like
my, my family, my immediate family call me.
Otherwise it just goes straight to voicemail or silent.
But like, yeah, I don't have any notifications from any social
platforms. Like I try to block out all my
day from a productivity standpoint, but I think, you
know, getting inundated with Bing Dings and whistles and all
that stuff is, is hindering people more than they realize.
It's bad. Yeah, it, it's definitely
programming. And, and you know, it's funny,
I, I was at a restaurant the other day, rarely eat out, cook
near 100% of meals at home. But I was, I was traveling, my
girlfriend and I looked over at a table and there's this kid in
headphones and an iPad set up at the table.
And, and the adults were just, you know, chatting, doing
whatever. And I was like, man, this kid is
fixated on that thing. It's it's, it's like he was
drugged. Yeah, it's, it's sad, man.
Like I'm, I'm a parent now, so I like try to be very conscious of
how I'm raising my kids. And we don't ever really go out
to eat either because we cook all of our stuff at home too.
But we, we did go out the other day for some special occasion
and we were at just a, you know, just a steakhouse, nothing
fancy. And we were in the outdoor patio
seating area. And there was I think 5 other
families in that area. Every single one of the families
had kids and every single person at every single table other than
ours was just fixated on their phone.
The parents weren't talking to the kids, the siblings weren't
talking to each other. We were like, we look so out of
place because we were the only family actually communicating.
It was just, it was odd, man. Man, if that exists in the area
you're in, which tends to have stronger kind of family values,
American values, it's I mean, imagine the rest of the country.
I am so glad that I was born in the late 70s, nineteen 78, and I
grew up on a farm because we had no neighbors, no town, no TV, no
utilities. It was all mostly off grid.
It it, it was my brothers and I had two older brothers and we
just played all day outside. And in the winter we were
outside too, quite often just bundled up.
And I kind of wonder if that gave me any advantages as an
adult. I think it did.
It's interesting, 'cause I, I was born in 91, so I was a kid
before, you know, cell phones were a thing or the Internet
was, I mean, the Internet was a thing, but it wasn't like
mainstream social media wasn't in existence at all.
So I was kind of like that weird little window of time where I
kind of caught both sides of it. So I grew up playing outside
too. I mean, my brother and I, we, we
just played outside. We'd play with Army men's and a
pile of dirt and a BB gun for hours, you know, like we, we
could just entertain ourselves. But I was young enough that when
I started getting into business, I was able to see the benefit of
social media and all that stuff and kind of, you know, quick to
grab on to that as a tool. But having all that, you know,
prior youth ingrained in me as to that not necessarily equating
to happiness. So I feel lucky in that regard
because the kids that are born now, it's like they're just
immediately pacified by it. I've heard.
Yeah, I have a friend who has two daughters.
They're in the early teen years and there's all kinds of weird
bullying going on online and the the ostracizing, but they do it
through social media. I don't really understand it,
but it seems to add a lot of stress to their lives.
And yeah, you and I grew up outside of that, and you got me
beat on one thing, Man. I was just thinking about that
today when social media came around, I dismissed it and I did
not use it for my business at the time.
And the people who did that got in early, they did really,
really well, whatever their business was, whether they are
real estate agent or a coach of some kind, which was pretty new
back then, but there were a few around, you know, chiropractors,
whatever. I mean, the ones that got on
that early did really well and I didn't, I just dismissed it and
I'm like, oh, this is, you know, you don't use this for business
and stuff. And now here I am trying to
relearn everything on that. Yeah, it's, it's a double edged
sword, man. Like I, I would be totally happy
if it all went away and we could just sit around a campfire and
shake hands like the good old days.
I don't think that's realistic. So I'm trying to make the most
of it. But I think the main thing with
social media and to not let it rule your world is to create
more so than you consume. Like if you're yes, building and
adding and generating things of value, that's fulfilling and
beneficial and helpful. Whereas if you're just simply
doom scrolling all day and that's probably not good.
It's crazy how weaponized it is to suck your attention.
And I mean, it's the new TV, it's with you at all times and
you can curate the content to exactly your taste.
I was doing this big three-year review.
I use a system called bullet journaling paper and pen.
Anybody can learn online for free.
They give away how to do it. If you want to buy their
official bullet journal, you can, but you don't have to.
And I was going through three years and I was doing this cool
reflection exercise and just, you know, what do I want more
of? What do I want less of?
What worked, what didn't work? And doom scrolling was actually
on there. And I'm, I'm not, I wouldn't
consider myself a bad one, but even I was getting sucked into
that. And I'm like, no more that when
my life has improved the most, it's when I'm reading books.
And you know, I do a tremendous amount of natural health
research. I mean, daily.
And I've noticed over the years the Internet is kind of decayed.
A lot of the good websites have gone down or been censored.
They go down when their creators lose interest or they or they
pass away. And, you know, they're heavily
censored. So you can't even find them
with, you know, popular search engines.
And then people just don't pay the server fees, whatever.
And these sites disappear. And then a lot of the big tech
companies are using AI to back at it, whatever pages they can
on all sorts of topics. But natural health is not a, a
favorite one of big tech because their biggest advertisers are
drug companies. So I have gone back to natural
health books in a big way. And I scour used bookstores and
go to used bookstores online and, and, and pull out all these
classics that people have forgotten about.
And I man, the information I've gotten out of those has been
mind blowing. It's funny, I was walking
through Barnes and Noble the other day yesterday and I was
looking at all these books, all this vast amount of information
and it's like physical bookstores have gone down in
popularity so tremendously. And I'm, I'm guilty of it too.
Like I oftentimes I, I love reading, but I oftentimes
consume most of my written content via, you know, Audible
now, like while I'm driving or while I'm training or something
like that, as opposed to actually flipping through a
page. I love flipping through the
pages, but I just don't simply do it as much as I'd like.
That's kind of one of the things I hope to do more of this year.
Yeah. But it it kind of begs the
question like how many people just simply do not read at all
anymore? A lot.
I mean, I had a buddy who didn't read back in the the mid 2000s
to 20 tens and I was like, seriously dude, you don't read.
And he's like, no, I don't read ever.
He's like, if I can't find an audible, I don't read it.
That's well. That's well, well, talk to me
about the the natural health, man.
Like we, we can go as deep as you want to go into any
conspiracy rabbit hole or just what you've done personally.
I know you travel quite a bit. What what makes you travel?
What are you traveling for? I just kind of want to get more
insight into you man. Yeah, thank you.
And I know a lot of people when they get asked this question on
podcast is talk about themselves forever.
I want to make sure that I give your listeners actionable items
they can take and use right away.
So I'll start there. You know, I believe that there
are really only two things that cause low health or poor health
and, and low energy and, and, and, and it's in this order, I
think. I think it's toxins and I think
it's nutrient deficiencies. People try to overcomplicate
stuff. And sure, there's all kinds of
different toxins. I I consider beliefs, feelings,
emotions that don't serve you also are toxic and there's ways
to exit those out of the body and, and nutrient deficiencies,
you know, I mean, God, you look at the work of doctor Joe
Wallach and nutrient deficiencies.
You know, he was a, he's a vet who's solved all these problems
of diseases and, and animal husbandry and zoo animals and,
and they start applying it to people and the FDA sued him.
So he went and got a medical degree, countersued him and won,
you know, 'cause simple things like adding selenium prevents
all these diseases, you know, and most people are deficient in
that. But yeah, Doctor Joe Wallach, if
you ever get a chance to read some of his books, it's
fascinating because in the agriculture world, animals don't
get sick. I mean, they're killed for meat,
but they don't get sick before then very often because they
solved all those problems by adding the precise ratios of of
vitamins and minerals and macro nutrients to their feed because
it's more profitable. But you know, people will go
their whole lives and not get enough selenium or not get
enough moly molybdenum or not get enough, you know, humic or
phobic or stuff like that. So I always thought that was
interesting. And when I went on my own health
journey, I started like a lot of people do, especially guys, and
I just started adding stuff. So I was, I was, you know,
working out a lot more just fantastic.
And then I was using all these brain nootropic supplements and
then I was using all the regular supplements and and vitamins and
I kept adding all this stuff and felt a heck of a lot better than
I did in the past. But nothing moved the needle
more for me than when I got into detox and daily detox.
Big yearly detoxes, 6 month detoxes.
Man, I'll tell you what, when I removed the poisons from my
cells, my energy switch back on and I felt like I de aged 10 or
15 years. I'm not even kidding man.
In my 30s I was a wreck. I was tired all the time.
So yeah, I definitely want to peel the curtain back on this
man 'cause I feel like people here detox and cleanse and they,
they automatically think like snake hole and people don't
realize all the stuff that they are in contact with on a
day-to-day basis that just simply wasn't here, you know,
two years ago, much less 500 years ago.
So like when you start breaking it down by like the types of
clothes you're wearing, the types of chemicals, the types of
cleaning agents that you're using on your food products,
your your, your dish products, everything, your skin.
So like when you look at that, what are some, we can make this
super practical? Like what are some things that
most people are using, you know, blindly, ignorantly that you
removed and replaced. That's made a tremendous
difference for you. That's a great question and let
me frame it very simply for people, and I credit Doctor
Jerry Tennant for this. He wrote a book called Healing
is Voltage that was, is phenomenal explaining this
concept, but it's real simple. If your cell is poisoned and
it's gunked up with toxins, it doesn't work very well.
And if it doesn't work very well, it can't assimilate really
high quality nutrients that you're, you're pumping into your
body. So most people get it backwards.
They're, you know, when they get on a health kick, they start
taking all these supplements and, and high quality foods and
things and that's great. But think about if your, if your
cells are in little wheelchairs hobbling along, they can't
really assimilate those nutrients very well because
they're not working very well. So you got to remove the poisons
first. And so, you know, if we're
talking about environmental toxin exposure, let's talk about
a few easy swaps people can do. And then let's talk about actual
tactics you can go and use because some of them are free or
super cheap. But in my case, I mean, the
first thing you got to start with, obviously is water, right?
That's a big one if you're drinking tap water and think
everybody knows this at this time.
But tap water isn't just fluoride, which is extremely
hard to remove. It also has excreted
pharmaceutical drugs in it, which a lot of people don't
think about. But, you know, I think it's
like, forget the percentage. It's over half of Americans are
on four or more drugs, which is excreted through their urine and
then it goes into the water supply and they do not like
municipal water supplies do not remove those particular toxins
from the water. They don't consider an issue.
So you're taking in that heavy metals, fluoride, chlorine, I
mean, it's just it's, it's rough.
So you got to get on top of your water game and whatever that
looks like for you. There's a lot of different
options. I mean, a higher end option is
you can just not want deal with any complicated filters and you
can just call up Mountain Valley Spring water and they're down
there not far from you actually. And they got a 3000 year old
aquifer. They've been supplying water
nationwide for 120 years and they'll give it to you in glass
jugs. I mean, that's that's a good way
to start. If you want to go for cheaper,
there's chemistry based water filters that are pretty good.
You want to make sure that it has a KDF media element in it,
which is really good at removing a lot of stuff.
Just simple carbon block that just removes taste and some VO
CS. But it doesn't do heavy metals.
It doesn't do excreted pharmaceutical or or fluoride.
And that's that's a whole conversation, right?
Like there's and there's so many more better options out there
nowadays. I mean you can get a Berkey.
Filter, they just got over their FDA thing, so they're back on
track. That's what that means in
Berkey. Yeah, Berkey's great.
You can do. I mean, there's, there's all
kinds of good you can do an RO system.
RO is good, but the guy that invented RO later came out
against it because so many of the RO systems have mold in
them. And it also breaks the structure
of the water because it's pushed through that membrane at such a
high pressure. So you have to have a final
water structuring element in your system at the end of that
to bring the coherence back to water.
So it basically when I talk about structure, water just
makes water wetter, which sounds weird, but it makes the water
more bio available to your cells.
So that's, you know, that's water and people forget that you
absorb an absolute ton of toxins through your shower and it it's,
you know, if you drink a glass of water that has fluoride in
it, at least your liver has a chance to tackle it.
When you absorb it through your skin, it goes straight in your
bloodstream and it skips the liver.
So you actually get a higher toxin exposure in a tap water
shower than you do from drinking tap water, which is pretty wild.
So there's some good shower filters out nowadays.
Pristine Hydro makes a good one. I've met the owner of that
company. He's great guy.
He's the real deal. Yeah, I think he's in his 70s
now. And you go in there and he's
doing like one arm pull ups and hand stands.
I mean, he's quite the character, really interesting
guy. So that's one to get on top of.
And then based on your photo here and how, how cut and jacked
you're looking, I think you're on top of hormones, right.
And so you're, you're all over the microplastics discussion.
Yeah, I try to remove all the plastics.
I mean, I still have like some, you know, polyester and some of
the clothes that I'm wearing. But I, I definitely have tried
to make a valiant effort to remove all the plastic
Tupperware and, you know, stick with glass.
And I don't heat things up in plastic.
I try to avoid drinking out of plastic water bottles whenever
possible. I mean like if I'm travelling
I'll still grab a water bottle out of convenience, but like
vastly the majority of everything I'm consuming is free
of all the microplastics that I can effectively removed from my
my environment. Man, I had like 2 grand in
workout clothes like Lululemon, LOI, all these and I thought
they were the they're the best clothes.
And then when I got into the polyester thing, I looked at the
labels, 100% of them were polyester or polyester blend.
And so it's been a painful process purging that and moving
all the workout gear to natural. And there's finally a couple
companies that are doing that for guys now.
One of them's Riker. Yeah.
So their shorts are great. I've not got their shorts.
I've gotten some of their underwear and that's pretty
pretty solid. About to try out the the shorts.
Because, like, the shorts are phenomenal.
Yeah, I'll get, I'll get a pair because I've been, I mean, it's,
it's hard like especially because all of the textile
companies, we own apparel business too.
So like all the textile companies, especially for sports
fit apparel, are all overseas and all of it's 100% polyester.
Man, it's a pain in the butt. It's crazy dude.
I went into an alpaca store the other day that it's a really
good natural material and 80% of the stuff had acrylic or
polyester in it because it's cheaper for them to produce and
it's shipped to the US that way. I mean, I get it.
Polyester is the cheapest fabric there is, so your profit margins
go way up. But I mean, there's a a well
known study in India, they were using polyester underwear, like
basically nut sack slings on Indian men as a contraceptive.
And it, it worked really, really well.
Yeah. That's not something you you
want to be outfitting your wardrobe with if you can help
it, right? Yeah.
I mean, so, yeah, water, polyester.
I mean, you know, obviously you have to be cognizant of, of the
foods you're putting in your body and what toxins those are,
are carrying. And you know, this stuff can
sneak up on you too. If, if especially, you know, for
men, I even in supplements like there's a supplement called
astaxanthin and it's great for joints and, and, and this and
that. And I was taking that for a
while and I just, my energy went down.
I wasn't putting on muscles fast.
My, my muscle tone flagged, you know, it was, it was less firm
than it should have been. And I had to do some deep
research and come to find out that is a radically estrogenic
substance. And it's it's not even on, you
know, the bottle. You have to be careful with that
stuff. And a lot of the plants are
obviously they're, they have phytoestrogens in them, just
like some plants have a lot of testosterone in them, like pine
pollen. But yeah, it's in the heavy
metals. You know, they're far more
prevalent than people think. I mean, I don't use any aluminum
cookware ever, ever. You know, like I've got a buddy
that has one of those those Bialetti mocha pots for coffee.
You know, it's like that, that old design, you can use it on
your stove top makes great coffee.
But I was like, dude, that's hot, acidic coffee and soft
aluminum. I would, I would not drink that.
And he's just like, oh, it's fine.
You know aluminum's hard to get rid of.
Yeah, it, it's weird 'cause it's like people, people just kind
of, you know, throw this off their shoulder and assume it
doesn't really have that big of an impact.
But it's like when you look at this compound that over a
lifetime, I mean, they're, they're subjecting themselves to
it far faster than they're able to excrete it.
And that just continues to build up in concentration.
Yes, it does. I My poor mom, you know, she's
almost 80 and I've watched what dentists have done to her over
the years. You know, your mouth is a huge
factor in your overall health and energy levels.
And she's had something like 16 root canals.
And dentists are the only, you know, healthcare professionals,
wherever you want to call them. I think it's OK to leave dead
tissue in the body. I mean, a tooth is a living
tissue. It's innervated by nerves that
have blood supplies. They have pulp inside of them
and so they kill a tooth and then they just leave it in there
and it rots underneath at this anaerobic infection that is hard
to detect. And my mom's had chronic fatigue
ever since her 30s. I remember growing up around her
and she's always complaining about how tired she is.
And, you know, at this age, she's just, she's gotten to that
point where she's kind of stubborn, doesn't want to be
bothered with anything. She is into natural health, but
only if it's like really easy to implement.
And I was like, man, how do we solve this problem?
Because if you have these anaerobic infections under your
jawline from root canals, your only option is to have them
either extracted or extracted. Use a bridge or extracted and,
and you do implants, which is, I mean that's going to be 100
grand. So I solved that problem by
getting into Rife therapy, Rife machines, frequency based
therapy and I, I, they have figured out all the frequencies
for the exact type of pathogens that exist in a latent anaerobic
root canal infection. And we, I got her set up with a
Rife machine and we switched that thing on man.
And she immediately went into Herzheimer reaction just massive
detox. And because it was close to her
brain, she had these wild mood swings and she's really tired.
So we could originally only do it for 2 minutes at a time, and
then three and then five. And now she runs it for 20
minutes a day. And it got on top of it.
So as long as she does it every day, the infection is held down.
But that's not even including all the amalgams.
You know, she grew up in the era where these dentists reusing
these mercury amalgams, you know, where it's, it's mercury
in some other metal, but it's usually about 50% mercury and
they're sticking in people's mouths.
So she's got all kinds of mercury in the body.
And that's obviously gonna be a really potent cell toxin that
prevents it from working as well.
Yeah, the, the tooth situation is an interesting 1.
And I feel like, you know, my, my parents also have a lot of
work on their, their mouth. I don't know how I got lucky,
but I have 0 cavity, 0 filling, 0 anything.
It just had a routine teeth cleaning.
That's all I've ever had done. But you know, I see people that
have just a mouthful of lead or mercury or whatever the case may
be, and it's like, that just does not seem like a recipe for
success right there. Yeah, I mean you have to get
them out 1st and then you got to look at toxins and detox like
credit card debt. So the first thing you need to
do if your credit card debt is stop adding to it.
So you need to stop buying stuff and putting it on the credit
card. So you do that so you stop
adding toxins to the body. So in this case, it would be
removing the amalgams and then you have to start tackling the
debt and that's that's removing the substances that are in your
body. So let's talk about heavy metals
actually. So these are some take it
actionable things your listeners can do that aren't that
expensive. So for heavy metals
specifically, there is something out there that you can buy.
I mean, a year's supply will cost you 9 to 12 bucks actually,
that'll that'll last you a couple years.
It's called EDTA, and EDTA is made from vinegar, and it's a
special amino acid that has an affinity for lead, mercury,
arsenic and cadmium, in that order.
So you can I take EDTA every day?
I probably will forever. But it selectively binds to
unhelpful heavy metals and leaves everything else alone.
And it chelates them. So it actually Yanks a lot of
tissue. And the way that metals work is,
you know, they're in your bloodstream first, and then they
get sequestered to your fat because if it's in your fat,
it's sealed off from the rest of your body and it prevents
damage. It's a protective mechanism, and
then it goes from your fat in your bones.
And so 2 interesting things about this.
A lot of people that have serious weight loss resistance,
like they're doing everything right and they cannot lose those
last stubborn 10 lbs or whatever, it's because their fat
is so toxic. The body won't allow it to be
broken down because that would release all the metals and then
you cause organ damage. So big hidden cause of weight
loss resistance is heavy metal toxicity.
And then when you see older people, men and women, but
especially women, but when they go through menopause, they start
losing bone density. And when they lose bone density,
guess what, all those metals that have been sequestered for
50-60 years in their bones, they start coming out and then all
these other health problems start.
So with these so-called diseases of aging, you know, like, like
the, the, the skin challenges, like the thinning skin that you
see in a lot of older people, especially women, where it's
kind of like paper. It looks like crepe paper that's
actually from metal. It's not, I mean, you can say
it, sure, it's a collagen deficiency, but what, what's
causing the collagen issue? It's the metals.
Isn't that crazy? That is, what is it like a, like
a, like a hair analysis test or a, a, a test that you would
recommend people take to kind of get a baseline understanding of
what their toxic concentration levels are?
Yeah, I'm going to. So metals tests are wildly
inaccurate, but the, the heroin is decent.
If you get a blood test, unless you've had a recent acute
poisoning, it's not going to show much because the body will
sequester the metals away in the fat and your bones really
quickly. So unless you get a biopsy,
which no one is going to want to do, they're they're pretty
inaccurate. I can say this.
Lead is an element. It doesn't break down in the
environment. We had leaded gas in this
country for a long time. So all that lead that was spewed
out in the environment, it's still around.
It gets stirred up in the air. You're breathing it in all the
time. Lead is, I mean, most things
from China had a lot of lead in them, which is wild.
They just do. And mercury is everywhere too.
So most people, I mean children are born with heavy metals now
because of the yeah, the mom's body will download metals into
the fetus to get rid of them, to move it out of the mom's body.
That's why there's a lot of miscarriages with the first
couple pregnancies is cause the mom's body will download toxins
into that field tissue to get it out of the body.
Nature is savage, dude. And that, but that's a common
thing. And and I mean, there's children
that are they have gallstones now, like their little livers
have gallstones and it's like they've barely been exposed to
anything. How's this happening?
It's from that, so you can jump on, you know,
bulksupplements.com, you can get some disodium EDTA and I take
500 milligrams of that a morning, every morning.
And it just goes into your gut. It stays in your gut for about 8
hours. And all the blood that passes by
and other stuff, it'll just kind of pull those metals out.
And over time you'll see your skin texture improve, your
cognition will go up, you'll have more energy.
But it's a long term game, you know, I mean, you got, you got
to be really consistent with it for years.
What about acute detoxes? Like I know you do dry fast.
You were doing dry fast via that e-mail thread that we ain't
going and like a lot of people will turn to, you know, sauna
use or things of that nature. Do you put much stock in that?
Yeah, so very interesting. We're actually running a dry
fast group right now. That's my my call.
After this, people are doing a 5 day dry fast for the first time.
But I, I will start with this, do not jump straight into a dry
fast unless you've done some other type of global detox
because it puts a serious load on your, on your detoxification
pathway. So if you've never done a global
detox before, it's not recommended you do a dry fast.
That's, that is it will, will, will loop back to dry fast.
But here's what a great global detox that anyone can do.
Well, not anyone because you have to have access to an
infrared sauna. But let me just explain it.
So if you have access to an infrared sauna or if you're just
a complete savage and you do it in a bathtub like I did my first
time, there's something called the infrared sauna and niacin
detox and it's really simple and super cheap.
My first time I did it in a hot bath.
My second time I did it with I'd wear like 5 warm up jackets and
a couple pairs of pants and jump rope just to sweat.
And then the third time I finally was high class and I did
it in a sauna. But the basic concept is this.
If you take niacin, which is just vitamin B3 and you increase
the dose every day and then you combine that with heat, they,
there's a internal alchemy that occurs that causes lipolysis of
fat cells. So you, it, it liquefies fat in
your body. And as the fat liquefies, all
toxins are released. This is what's cool about Asana
Niacin Detox is it's not you don't have to know 36 different
detox agents or binders to remove, you know, VOC's,
microplastics, lead, mercury, cadmium, arsenic, you know, drug
residues, all that stuff. The Sana niacin detox just takes
it all out at once because all those toxins end up in your fat.
And so the way the basic protocol looks is you take
niacin and then you increase the dose every day and you do that
for 21 days. And so let's say it's day one,
you'll take like 250 milligrams of niacin and then you wait 2
hours, 2 hours and 30 minutes, whatever it is.
And then you do a light workout or a heavy workout, whatever you
are into, and you generate internal body heat, which kick
starts the reaction. And then at hour 3, exactly by
hour 3, you get into whatever the external heat source is.
So maybe it's a hot bath, maybe it's an infrared sauna, maybe
it's a regular sauna, maybe you're jump roping and you know,
sauna suits like I was when I was in the Wilds of Nova Scotia
just wanting to do this detox so bad.
And you sit there for an hour and or do whatever you're going
to do for an hour and then you just sweat like crazy and toxins
come out all of them. And the first time I did this, I
had like, black rings on the towel is just terrific.
And the first time I did it, I felt so bad for seven days.
And then on the 8th day, I had this sense of vitality and
energy come over me that I hadn't felt since probably my
late teens, early 20s. And that makes sense, you know,
I mean, I was exposed to a lot of toxins.
I paid for college being a tree trimmer, so I was always around
chainsaw oil and gasoline and I sprayed herbicides as a part of
that job. So I was covered in glyphosate
all the time, which is Roundup for people listening.
And growing up in Minnesota, I did a lot of AG work, which was
again was herbicides, pesticides, that kind of stuff.
So all that came out and I felt like 1,000,000 bucks.
So that's Asana and niacin detox protocol.
That's a really good global detox.
What are you increasing your dosage?
By each consecutive day like. Well, you have, yeah.
So it's a good question. So you have to do it by feel.
So you know, you took too much if you're nauseous, that's
that's like the trigger. So it's different for everyone.
But in effect, what it'll look like is you go 250 milligrams,
the next day it'll be 500. And then you'll flush really
hard and you say, OK, I got to keep it at 500 for the next day.
So then you do 500 and then you go up the third day you'll do
like 750. Ultimately, you want to get up
to around 3000 to 5000 milligrams per day.
And you do heat exposure at the end of the 21 days, not every
day of the two and a half hour. No, you do it every day.
Oh, OK, Yeah. So just to do a recap, let's say
it's noon. You take your niacin, then at
3:00 PM you need to be doing your heat source.
Ideally you work out for an hour, 30 minutes before, and for
some people that'll look for like going for a vigorous walk
for 20 minutes. But whatever the case is, you've
generated some internal heat. That's what kick starts the
metabolic reaction. Then you get into your heat
source. So you took it at noon, you do a
little workout at 2:30 and then you jump into the sauna or the,
you know, the hot bath or whatever at 3:00.
And then that's where the magic happens.
You can feel it. It's hard when you're in there.
I mean, you do a normal sauna. It's kind of relaxing.
You do this, you can feel your body doing work.
And this works so well for me. I helped get my mom set up with
the, with the infrared sauna, you know, because she was never
going to do all the dental work to, to get the amalgams out
because she's kind of stubborn about that.
And I can't say I blame her for not wanting to go to a dentist.
And I said, well, mom, you know, we got to do the rife for the
dental infections and you got to do the sauna nearly every day.
And she does. And it made a huge difference
for her. Nice, nice.
What about the cold exposure like contrast therapy?
Is that going to be providing any benefit from a detox
standpoint or is that there for other other reasons?
I personally think it's there for other reasons.
It's interesting you brought that up because I've been
experimenting with that. You know, my friend Sean
McCormick did a podcast with the Mizuko Forge guy.
I think that's how you pronounce it.
And there it was all about doing cold baths before you work out
to increase beneficial hormones, in this case for men,
testosterone. I said, well, that's really
interesting. I've been taught my entire life
to warm up a lot before working out.
I used to be an athlete in college, had a partial
scholarship for it, and we were always super warm before we were
working out. But I've been doing it for over
three months and I will say it's uncomfortable.
I hate it every time I do it, especially in the winter.
But I have noticed an increase in beneficial hormones.
I can feel it when I'm working out, but it's really subtle.
It wasn't like a dramatic difference, but I do feel like
hormonally I've noticed some beneficial changes and it
definitely drives up your dope. I mean, what's your experience
been? Well, I've been doing, yeah, I
do the cold plunge every morning.
I just got like a, a cheap, you know, stock tank from the
Tractor Supply Coast. And I fill that up and it works
well during the winter time, but not so much during the summer.
But I've been jumping in first thing in the morning and I
typically start with a minute and then I increase by 15
seconds every week. So like today I'm doing minute
45 seconds and I was breaking the ice to get in today because
we had a cold snap last night. But I'll do that first thing and
then grab a cup of coffee and head to the gym immediately
thereafter. Oh, so you're doing it?
Yeah. And I, I enjoy it, like I feel
like there's been a lot of talk as to it having hormonal
benefits, recovery benefit, anti-inflammatory components of
it. And that all may be very true.
But for me, the psychological, you know, dopamine response of
just starting the day doing some hard shit is always beneficial.
I think you're right. I think you're right.
I mean, the other day I had to do it in the morning, which I
don't normally do it. And I was like, man, it, it's
cold out. I'm cold, you know, because your
body temp is the coldest when you wake up.
And I got in and I had a great day yesterday.
I got so much done, you know, So I I agree with you and I'm going
to start adding that more actually.
Just just get in, get that hard thing done right away.
Sometimes they call that eating the frog, you know, like, like
in your work day, you do the hardest thing first.
Yeah, I like that. But to get back to the detox
topic, because I want to make sure your people have things
they can do. You know, if the, the Sana
niacin thing sounds a little too intense, that's fair.
There's a lot of great daily detox things you can do.
A lot of people forget that vitamin C is a detox agent.
That's what it does. It's a detoxifier.
Toxins in general, most of the time 'cause damage because they
steal electrons from your body. They steal and rob electrical
energy from your body. We are electrical beings first.
There's no chemical reaction in the body that happens without
the movement of electrical charge first.
So we are, we're based on health is, is, is biophysics.
So toxins like heavy metals, VOC's, mold spores, whatever the
case is they, they rob charge. They, they're, we talk about
antioxidants, right? That they're oxidants.
They're, they're, they're, they're free radicals.
That's what they do. They grab electrons.
So vitamin C is an electron donor and it counteracts that.
So a great daily detox agent is vitamin C and vitamin C is
cheap. You know you can find it pretty
much anywhere. You want to make sure that it's
non it's most vitamin C is made by fermenting corn and most corn
is is GMO corn. So you can have glyphosate
residue in it if you don't get a clean non-GMO based version.
So you do need to look out for that, but I take 5 to 8
milligrams of vitamin CA day and I stacked that with humic and
falvic acid. Humic and falvic is one of the
only things that will detoxify the inside of a cell and is
particularly good at grabbing heavy metals.
That's particularly good at grabbing glyphosate.
So Roundup Residue, which is in a lot of food, it's even in
organic food from overspray, and it's really good at helping the
gut. You know, it helps seal up the
tight junctions for leaky gut and it's good for metals.
I think I mentioned that already, but take that every
day. And just those two alone, they
do a lot of detox support. So if you did that for three
months, six months, you throw in charcoal, you know, a few times
a week, you're going to be in pretty good shape.
You know, people overcomplicate this stuff, but I think deep
health is consistency over time. He's got to be disciplined about
taking this stuff every day. Totally.
Is there a particular brand that you recommend for that?
You know, it depends if you're hopping online, I would say the
cleanest version you can get is there's a company in Scotland,
it's one of the only ones not made in China nowadays and it's
called quality C. So with AQ like quality, it just
stops at the I. So Quality C and quality C is
private labeled by a lot of companies, but because it's a
patented ingredient, you'll see in the ingredient label that
it'll say, it'll say quality C on it somewhere.
But Doctors Best seems to have the best prices for it.
So Doctors Best was recently bought by a Chinese company.
So keep an eye on them because usually what happens is they
start changing the quality of the ingredients.
So far, the Doctor's Best vitamin C is still made with
Quality C from Scotland. So that's a good option.
What about the humic and vulvic? Hemic and Falvic I actually
manufacture. So I, I didn't get on this
podcast to, you know, sell my product, but when I looked into
that market for myself, you know, I was taking it and I felt
myself kind of come alive when I took it.
And I was like, man, I was really deficient in this
nutrient. I have my own maid and it's 100%
USA. That was an issue I was running
into is most of us from China and India.
You got to keep in mind that Hemic and Falvic has an affinity
for mercury, aluminum, lead, cadmium, and most of those
environments that they process the Hemic and Falvic and are
contaminated. So it just grabs all that stuff
and then you're just adding metals to your body.
And so, gosh, I think it was five years ago now, I created a,
a, a couple products for humic and Fulvic both and I source
them from Idaho and they're water process.
They don't use any acids whatsoever.
Water processing takes weeks, acids takes hours, but there's
always acid residue left behind. So, and even my packaging is
from the US, I was really big. I'm not using any China or India
sourced ingredients down to the packaging.
A lot of people don't know this, but over 95% of supplements come
from China. And out of those, nearly 100%
are from pharmaceutical companies.
So you have pharmaceutical companies turning out
supplements and a lot of these supplements are even
contaminated with stuff like fentanyl.
It'll be trace amounts, but there there will be fentanyl in
there. Yeah, definitely won't avoid
that. It's good our mutual offend
friend had some trace amounts of of fentanyl exposure from
something from China. It's crazy man.
Supplement what? What is the the the link for the
stuff that you manufacture? Easiest way to find it is go to
www.getbiorecharge.com. So get biorecharge.com and
that's my flagship product. And if you go through, feel like
if you decide and then you want to grab some of that, there's
like a little kind of purchase ladder that you go through and
you're offered the Falvic as well.
The Falvic is called Bioboost. And so here's the difference
just 'cause this gets confusing for people, it confused me when
I got involved in the humic Falvic world.
So all humic contains some Falvic.
So my humic product Biorecharge, it's about 11% Fulvic.
And you say, OK, well, what's the difference?
Humic is, is a heavier, darker in colour molecule that is
really good at detox and gut health.
It does donate electrons to cells and it does that well, but
it's, it's more on the detox and gut health side of things.
Fulvic is a lighter energetic molecule.
It's like straw color, like a pale yellow color.
It's golden where humic is pretty dark.
It's like a dark brown. And it's more on the energy
side. And I don't mean like woo
energy. I mean it literally has a ton of
electrons in it that when you take it, it donates electrons to
your cells. So that one, I kind of sell them
as a system because when I originally sold it, I just sold
Bio Recharge. And most of my customers are
older, they're 50 or over. And especially for the older
folks that hadn't done a lot of detox, they were having detox
reactions. And for most people, detox
reaction means you feel tired. And so I took a step back and I
said, OK, how do I help these people?
Because a lot of people didn't want to push through it.
It usually takes about a week and then the energy floods in.
It's just got to get on top of what's in your bloodstream as it
pulls it out. So the Bioboost is just, it
comes in a dropper bottle and you just put a squirt under your
tongue and it gives you an immediate energy pickup and it
helps detoxify. So that's why I sell them like
that. But you'll see both if you go to
get biorecharge.com. And I think I'm the only one or
one of the only people in North America that I sell the humic in
a stick pack. So it's a 300 milligram stick
pack of the powder. So there's no adulterants,
there's no capsules, there's no flow agents for the machine.
So you'll look at a lot of supplements and you see there's
magnesium stearate in there. Magnesium stearate is mildly
toxic to the human body. And that's a machine lubricant.
That's why that's in there. Mine's just a straight powder.
It was really hard to set up and nobody wants to go to that
level. And I had to find a boutique
manufacturer in Idaho to do the final process.
Or not Idaho, but Ohio to do the final processing.
But I was lucky enough to find one, and they're great folks.
And here we are. Nice.
I'll definitely check that out, man.
Very cool. Very cool.
What about Speaking of, you know, electrons and just
electrical synapses? What about grounding?
That's something I've heard a lot of lately, and some people
swear by it. Some people think it's woo woo.
Do you have a stance one way or the other?
Oh man, I've I have a decade long journey in there.
So this is, this is phenomenal. This is a great topic.
Thank you for asking. Because it's, I noticed it's
starting to get more mainstream now and there's some amazing
things about grounding. And then there's a dark side of,
of grounding that people aren't telling the, the grounding
companies aren't mentioning it. And I wish, I wish they would.
So First things first. So grounding outside in on bare
dirt or wet grass or what have you is phenomenal.
So during the day, even right now during this conversation,
because we're facing these screens, we're touching touch
screens, we're, we've got all this electrical equipment around
us. We're, we're building up a
positive electric charge on our body.
And even when you're using a touch screen, that charge
travels up your forearm and it goes to your heart and it's not
great. Your body has to spend electrons
basically to counteract that. So several times a day when I'm
running electronic devices, I will go outside and I'll place
my bare feet on the ground and that immediately dumps all that
positive charge. It goes to ground.
And so in less than a second you are grounded, you've dumped all
that charge and it's gone. And when I do this the most is
when I fly flying, because you're so high above the earth
and the magnetic field is quite weak.
And then you've got all the electronics on the planes, all
the people's phones and and such.
And it's, you're like in a microwave container basically.
You build up a tremendous amount of positive charge.
So whenever I get somewhere, as long as it's not frozen, well,
even when it's frozen. So I just got back from
Minnesota and I did this outside.
I get to the bare ground or snow as fast as I can and I put my
bare feet in it to get rid of that excess positive charge.
That alone is a great health hack that's free that anybody
can do. And if you have concrete inside
your house and there isn't a Tyvek sheet underneath the
concrete, it's just concrete to bare earth.
Concrete is conductive. Petroleum based products are not
like asphalt. Now if you stick outside and you
keep your feet grounded for 30 minutes, there is an electron
flow from the earth to you. So it'll it'll donate electrons
to your body. Those travel around your cell
membranes and takes about 30 minutes for the electrons to go
from your feet all the way to your head.
Interesting stuff. The dark side of it is and I
dude, I was sucked into this for years is that these grounding
mats, these grounding sheets, right.
So you're supposed to buy these and I had one for that I sat on,
I had one from working in the office.
I slept on one. You're supposed to plug them
into the ground outlet, and that is supposed to be great.
Well, that's not so. There's two huge problems with
that that aren't discussed very often.
Number one, you plug it in the ground outlet, you're exposed to
a shit load of dirty electricity.
Have you gotten into dirty electricity at all?
No man enlightened me. OK, so in the wiring system in
your house, there's all kinds of wires, right?
And then there's all kinds of appliances plugged into the
wires. When those appliances kick on,
like your refrigerator or printers are particularly bad,
But any electronics, computers, TV's, whatever's plugged in,
they set up harmonics in the wiring.
And then those harmonics interact with the other
harmonics. Let's say, you know, the typical
person's house has enough electronics in it to control a
nuclear submarine, and then the refrigerator kicks on and that
that puts in literally sine waves into the electrical
system. Those interact with the other
sine waves and it creates all these harmonics or waveforms.
The way to think about it is think of a pawn that's
completely Placid and then you instead of throwing 1 stone in,
you have these beautiful concentric rings.
You throw in thousands of stones at once and it looks chaotic.
That's what the waveforms look like electrically.
So when you plug it into the ground, all those harmonics
travel up the wire into the grounding sheet into your body.
Not great and dirty electricity is really well studied.
There's a couple American companies that sell devices that
you can plug in that reduce it doesn't completely eliminate it.
One of them is called Green Wave.
The other one is called Stetzer with AZ at the end, Stetzer, and
I have those in my house, but they don't completely eliminate
it. The other issue is, is think
about it. You're in bed, you have this
grounding sheet you're laying on or it's over you and it has all
these silver threads in it and it's the size of a bed.
It's a giant antenna. So when there's stray EMF in the
air, whether it's from your house with Wi-Fi, cell phone
signals, or even just electrical wiring, you know, that puts out
a field that goes out from your walls about 6 feet straight.
Electrical charge, straight EMF always seeks to ground.
And so the easiest path in your house is going to be seeking
ground through one of those sheets.
And that means it's going to go through your body and then into
the ground. Now people say, well, I use the
one with the stake in the ground.
Great, I did that too. There's 2 problems.
That eliminates The Dirty electricity problems somewhat,
but you still have stray EMF or electrical charge in there
seeking to ground, and it'll still ground through that sheet,
you know, through whatever you're using.
So that's one issue. And the second thing is, is in
the US, utility companies actually use the earth itself as
a return on the circuit. So if you're in a city, the
ground itself, the earth itself is electrically charged.
If you're more rural, you're probably better off.
But if you actually look at utility poles, a lot of them,
you'll see a metal stake in the ground.
At the base of the wooden utility pole, telephone pole.
Some people call them, and that's so it.
The current returns all the way back to the utility company
through those. A lot of people don't know that,
so you can stick your stake in the ground and pick that up too.
Isn't that wild? Yeah, it is.
Well, man, so I'm way better off just walking around barefoot.
Simplify. 100%, yeah. Out of curiosity, does it
matter? Like if you're jumping off the
plane and you, you go out and you know, bare feet on the
ground, like you'd be able to dump that same, you know,
electrons via, you know, palming the ground.
Like it doesn't have to be your feet or anything.
Yes, yeah. So last time I was in Montana, I
got out of the airport. The person picking me up was in
a hurry. I didn't.
I had shoes and socks on. I literally just walked over the
nearest patch of grass and I stuck both palms on it for like
5 seconds. And move the charge out.
Got grounded and then hopped in the car.
Done. Nice, cool.
Good to know. Good to know.
Yeah, this is interesting, man. I got a, one of my employees
just got a grounding blanket. He's been swearing by it, but
it's like, man, I got to do some more research on that before I
pull the trigger on him. He might have gotten lucky.
One thing about dirty electricity is even if your
house is like completely great on that, which is really tough
to do, you're still introduced to dirty electricity and
harmonics through the neighbourhood junction box.
So those green boxes like all your neighbours electronics are
back feeding into that too. It just, it gets really crazy
and, and even your plumbing like you know, and your, your water
pipes usually carry a strong electrical charge too.
And so they're a source of EMF. In fact, in plumbing, I forget
what the exact name is of it is, but plumbers will often install
plastic coupling between metal pipes to negate that.
Gotcha. Yeah.
Man, I feel like we can literally talk for hours on this
topic. And I, I, I do want to be
respectful for your time. I know you got your call coming
up about dry fasting. So I kind of want to take last
little bit here and touch on that in a little bit greater
detail because I've never done a dry fast.
I've done an extended fast of like 5-6 days, something like
that, but I've never done a dry fast.
OK, it's going to sound crazy to people like why like everyone
thinks you'd die if you don't drink water for three days, four
days, all that simply not true. Let's talk about the reasons why
you'd want to consider a dry fast first, Let's let's let's
start there. So one, if you do a dry fast,
you don't lose any muscle. If you do a wet fast, you lose
muscle. So when I heard that, I was
like, great, I don't want to lose any muscle.
My heart's a muscle. I don't want to, you know, have
that worn down through wet fasting.
But when you wet fast, there's a process called gluconeogenesis
and your body breaks down, you know, protein muscle for
glucose. And it's because your digestion
is activated every time you take a sip of water and dry fasting.
There's a different pathway as activated where you just go in
this super, super hard ketosis and your body shreds fat
preferentially, but tumors, cysts, senescent cells that are
worn out in old scar tissue, any unhelpful tissue in the body
just goes in there and shreds it for energy.
And so your muscles spared. So that's that's number one.
Number two, it's the world's ultimate detox.
It is one of the only things that expels toxins from the
inside of your cells. So it'll go in, it pushes toxins
out from the inside of your cells.
It's the first break that your liver and gut have gotten in
years or probably ever. So those go through their own
detox and repair process. And the third thing is that it
gives you stem cells and that's a big driver for a lot of
people. I mean, I've got a 80 year old
guy doing a A5 day dry fast right now and he, he wanted the
stem cells. So the way that that works is if
you can do a 5 day dry fast, you get one wave of stem cells on
day four and those continue. They're pluripotent stem cells,
so they go throughout your entire body and they're active
in your body for up to six months afterwards.
And so those go through and they literally de age you.
If you get a seven day dry fast, you get 2 waves of stem cells.
If you do 11 day dry fast, which is done clinically in Russia
quite often, you get 3 waves of stem cells.
I've only done up to seven day dry fast.
I have no plans to do an 11 day unless I, you know, got cancer
or something and then I would do it.
Wow man. So you're, you're doing this.
And for those that don't know, dry fasting is no water
consumption. Are you doing anything for
electrolytes? Are you putting salt on your
tongue? Anything.
Nothing. It's no food, no water, five
days straight. Now there are other versions of
dry fasting where people do one day, two days, three days.
Those are shorter dry fast. The thing is, is that day three
is the Rubicon day. So if you pass day three, you
you are then obligated to do 5. And the reason why is because
stem cells come a lot of long bones in your legs.
They actually have niches in there.
So they pop out of there, they go into proliferation.
They're in this release phase. If you interrupt that release
phase by breaking the fast, you can retard your stem cell
production for up to a year. So it's, it's a pretty
particular thing. You have to be careful with it.
It's a really specific cycle. Usually the only way to get stem
cells, you have to be really injured or pregnant.
Those are the, those are the pretty much the only two ways to
get pluripotent stem cells. And for anyone interested in dry
fasting, there's a amazing resource, a guy named August
Dunning. He has a, he has a book on it
called the Phoenix Protocol. It's very simple, very short,
very easy read, and he has a free YouTube channel.
And I was very, I wouldn't say I was skeptical dry fasting, but I
was like, come on, man. I mean, I, I came from an old
background of eating five times a day to keep your metabolism
up, like the old tribal bodybuilding knowledge, you
know, And I was one meal a day for 16 years after that.
But I was like, man, dry fasting seems like a bridge too far.
But I had this really long flight and most of August videos
at the time were they were short, they were like two or
three minutes. So I actually downloaded 100% of
his videos to my laptop. And then I watched him from
oldest video to newest. And in his oldest videos, he
looks, I mean, I'll be real, he looks like a wreck.
He's like unfit. He looks really aged, even
prematurely aged. But he's excited about dry fast
and he's talking about it. And then I think I watched like
three years of videos and he does 2 seven day dry fasts a
year. And by the end of three years,
the dude had aged backwards like 15 years.
I'm not even kidding. You can go Phoenix protocol
August Dunning. So his first name is August like
the month and then last name Dunning Dunning and I did A7 day
dry fast and I recorded it so I have a a dry fast series you can
watch on YouTube as well. If you can find my channel, it's
forgotten Health is the channel name and it's, I arranged it as
a playlist so you can go on my journey.
I, I'm going to be if you watch both.
So older people have an easier time with dry fasting because
their metabolisms are slower and older people are drier already.
As you age, you hold less water. And I watched August 7 day
videos and he makes it look easy and he's talking, he's walking
around on the beach, he's in a good mood.
Man, I got wrecked on my seven day.
I've done 5 days before my seven day, I got wrecked.
I could barely turn on the record on the camera.
But it's kind of interesting to watch because you, you can watch
my face change like it sinks in. And then I do follow up after
that where it's like a day after, a week after, a month
after, and you can kind of see the changes I talked about.
Besides physical benefits, dry fasting has immense emotional,
mental and spiritual benefits. You know, a lot of people don't
know this, but dry fasting was mentioned in the Bible often.
John the Baptist was a big dry faster.
That is one of the reasons that he was qualified to baptize
Jesus 'cause he's a holy man in the desert and he cleared out
all the bad information in his body by doing dry fast.
Noah dry fasted. Ramadan in the Muslim tradition
is a dry fast. When you sleep is when your body
detoxes the most. When you sleep, that's a dry
fast. So it's more common than people
think. But for some reason we've been
trained to think that if you don't eat or drink for, you
know, 2-3 days, you die. That's simply not true.
People say, well, where does the water come from?
As your aggressive autophagy turns on, which is by about day
two or three for most people, you burn through all your
glucose. A pathway is turned on where you
start cleaving fat for energy and it uses those ketones.
I know you know a tremendous amount about that.
Well, when that fat is broken down, if you break down 100
grams of fat, it releases 115 grams of water and the water is
perfectly structured, perfectly bioavailable.
And that flows to the inside of your cells and your cells use
that to eject toxins. So that's that's kind of it's,
it's, it's a miracle, man. I mean, if if you ever wanted to
completely slap the reset button on your life, your health, you
do a dry fast and it won't cost you a dollar.
Everything out there is is for free.
My friend Sean McCormick and I are running a a paid dry fast
program for people that want to do it with other people.
So we have daily zoom calls and the like and people are sharing
their experiences. Psychologically that's a lot
easier. But I did my first several this
completely alone with everyone telling me I was going to die
except for Mike. Except for our mutual friend.
MM was supportive. I've.
Actually had Sean on the podcast too so I know him as well.
Yeah, yeah. So we're doing a program
together right now. In fact, that's my call after
this people, they're on day 4. So they're on stem cell day,
which is we've got a guy who's 80 who's breezing through it.
And we have some of the younger people are extremely challenged,
you know, so it's everyone's there to help everybody and it's
kind of a fun group. And we've even gone as far as
they're, they're sharing pictures of what's coming out
'cause some of the people are doing enemas and we got people
dropping gallstones, parasites, impacted fecal matter that's
like black. It's been in there for years.
I mean, it's crazy stuff. Is there like anybody that
should definitely not do a dry fast?
Like if someone's like, I'm going to RIP right now, what do
they need to know on the front end?
Yeah, there are actually are several conditions that are
contraindicated. A big one is varicose veins
because your blood becomes dramatically thicker and so you
don't want to do blood clots. And so if you have varicose
veins, there's some challenges in that area.
And there's there's there's several other conditions, mainly
related to the heart or kidney issues.
So if you have heart, kidney or liver issues, it's not
recommended for a full list of contraindicated conditions.
There's a book that was translated from Russian and I'm
going to tell you it was translated from Russian poorly.
I think it was machine translated, but it's good enough
to get the point across. It's by Doctor Philanoff.
Dr. Philanoff runs the dry fasting clinic in Russia and
Siberia and it's called 20 Questions and Answers about Dry
Fasting and that's available as an e-book or a physical book.
But he has a full list in there and you can actually access that
list for free too on his specific website in English,
which again, is a rough website to read because it was
translated from Russian to Italian to English.
But it gets the point across. You can find it somewhere if you
if you search for them. But yeah, dry fasting, man, it's
I'll tell you what, as I've gotten older, I've had the sense
that time is moving so fast. I don't know if you've
experienced that, but IA blink in a week is gone.
And I've always kind of missed that childhood experience of
time moving really slow and just feeling that.
And I don't know what it is about dry fasting, but we were
talking about this on the call yesterday.
Time slows down to a crawl and you're just in it.
And after the dry, fast ends, you have this sense of presence
and slowness of time that I haven't felt since I was a kid.
And interestingly, that was paired with a complete lack of
procrastination and a sense of calmness that I just, I haven't
felt in a long time. And energetically it it cleaned
me out. The Russians say this is because
you're not getting any external inputs.
You're not getting water with information in it that isn't
helpful. And so it pushes out unhelpful
feelings, beliefs, emotions. And the water that is produced
endogenously is is perfectly clean.
And so near the end of my last dry fast.
I mean, I could, I know this sounds weird, but I could feel
subtle energies like I was walking around in the woods and
I could like kind of feel nature more than I've ever felt it
before. And after the dry fast ended, I
was the most productive at yet calm I've ever been in my life,
hands down. And it's not hyperbole.
Yeah. I have a similar experience
whenever I'm deep into a competition prep and I'm like,
you know, sub 4% body fat and I'm just super depleted.
Like I, my body just makes use of the, the requirements to just
capitalize on every little input that I do have.
But yeah, I've never done drive fast, man.
You've, you've definitely intrigued me.
I'm I'm going to do it. I don't know when I'm going to
do it, but it'll. There are what?
What competitions are you doing? I do bodybuilding competitions
on natural bodybuilding. So there are bodybuilders
starting to do it now. No, that's because you don't
lose muscle. It spares muscle.
And I mean, you are shredded afterwards.
And the fat that it preferentially attacks is
adipose tissue. Yeah.
So it it shreds that up. There's a guy named John Jaqui.
She did the X3 system. Yeah, I know.
He drive fast. Yeah, and when you were talking
about it, I was thinking of him because I know he and I have
talked about that a few times before.
So yeah, I'm, I'm definitely intrigued, man.
I'll have to give it a shot. Yeah, get that Phoenix Protocol
book. I, I give credit to August
Dunning. I mean, he's the guy who, it's
an interesting story how he came across the research.
He's a NASA scientist looking to how do I fix radiation damage on
a Mars mission? And the answer was you can't,
you can't carry enough shielding.
But the Russians solved the problem by dry fasting, because
dry fasting repairs genetic damage as well.
And so radiation damage from ionizing radiation and breaks
DNA strands, the dry fasting goes in and it repairs all of
them. So it actually repairs you to
DNA level. And so you read that and the
Russian research and got so excited about it that he
translated as much as he could. And then he wrote book The
Phoenix Protocol. And so that's, it was August
Dunning who introduced me to dry fasting.
And then I just took it and ran with it because I've had my mom
dry fast, you know, little short ones.
I've, I've done a bunch of them. Sean's, Sean's done a A5 day one
now. He had great results.
A bunch of my friends in San Diego have done it and they've
all aged backwards. I'm, you know, it's not like a
full Benjamin Button experience, but if you have a friend who you
see them and then they do a dry fast and then you see them like
six months later like that, they will look noticeably different
in the face. They look younger and you.
Typically do 2A year. The this last one was a doozy.
My seven day so I only did one last year.
I may do another seven day this year but I'm leaning towards a
5. So right now I'm just doing 1A
year of the longer ones, but I do short little 24 hour dry
fasts or you know, 24 to 48 hour dry fasts semi regularly.
There's actually a Russian dry fasting protocol for aggressive
fat loss that I'm interested in trying because I've had a little
bit of fat accumulator on my midsection which is weird.
I've just not had that in. I was trying to figure out what
was going on, but I'll, I'll read you this Russian protocol
because it's so simple, like everything Russian, right?
It's just like, right to the point.
Let me find it here. Here it is.
So it's so it's so simple. It's crazy.
So twice per week you drive fast for 24 hours.
So that's just dinner to dinner. So you eat dinner on Thursday
and then you don't have any water or food until Friday
dinner time, easy. On dry, fast days, you walk 10K.
So that's 6.2 miles. And that's that's the protocol.
And according to the Russian clinical research, people lose
10 to 20 kilograms in two to three months.
So that's 22 to 44 lbs. Yeah, it's wild, man.
So I'm going to add that protocol.
I'm thinking Fridays will be the dry fast day and I'll walk 6
miles and I'm just going to keep that up and I want to see how
shredded I get. I mean, you're doing sub 4%.
That's crazy. I, I mean, that's amazing that
you get, get to that. Yeah, it's not healthy to
maintain that though by the means like I'll do that when I'm
in a, you know, prep for competition.
But then I I'd reverse diet back up into a healthier more
manageable way because you when you get down below sub 5% body
fat man as a guy like your hormones start tank and like
things just start shutting down. I actually remember my my
university athletic career, we did the dunk tank tests one
time. And you know, I was in my late
teens, I think I was 19 when I had that done.
And we trained four to six hours a day, six to seven days a week.
Like it was extreme and I was sub. 4% like it was.
You could see muscle striations everywhere in my body, but I
didn't. I wasn't healthy.
I was like tired all the time. I was kind of Moody and my
recovery from injuries was slow. Yeah.
Definitely not. Healthy.
Yeah, and I had coaches at the time, it was very 90s, you know,
so there's no recovery, no advice on diet, nothing.
And the coaches really encouraged me to cut weight, as
is a weight class based sport. And I did for a long time.
I cut off 2022 lbs before fights.
And my senior year I was just like, I'm not doing this
anymore. And I put on 45 lbs.
And then I started winning everything and my coaches were
like, why were you doing this before?
And I was like, because I was tired.
Yeah, it's no fun being depleted, man.
There's right and wrong ways to do it.
But yeah, you don't want to. You don't want to live in that
state because everything just starts to suffer.
How old are you doing that? I'm 33, I did 5 competitions in
2023 and I typically get, I typically do a prep every two or
three years. So I take time to, you know,
recover, build more muscle and then look better the next time I
shed shred down like that. But yeah, you don't want to do
it every year. That is impressive.
Appreciate it, man. Yeah, I love it.
There's bodybuilding. Natural bodybuilding is, I don't
know, it's brought a lot to my life for sure.
Yeah. I mean, it gives you a goal to
strive towards, which gives you structure, which gives you
discipline. I mean, it's, it's really
motivating. Well, I'm, I'm motivated to try
this drive fest. So when you do your next seven
day drive fest, shoot me an e-mail man.
Let me know and I'll do it in tandem with you.
Yeah, we'll do it together. I like to do it in the summer.
Yeah. So I'm not doing a prep this
year. So this would be a good year to
do it. Yeah, and I, it might be a 5
'cause I didn't notice a huge difference in benefits between
the five and the seven in my current condition, which is
pretty healthy. But psychologically, the seven
was so hard compared to the five.
The five's not bad. Day three is the worst for most
people. Probably be easy for you.
Day three is when your glucose runs out, so your energy crashes
and you switch over to a keto metabolism.
You would tolerate that pretty well, but for people new to the
game, that's a rough day. And then you've only got two
days after that, where day three on the seven day, you still got
four more days. It's like you're just like
you're in there. You're just like, what am I
doing? Yeah, see, I'm, I've been keto
for 10 years, so I would imagine from a fat metabolism
standpoint, my body's just doing its normal thing throughout
those several days. So I'd be curious to see what I
do, how I feel from like a, just a, a fluid standpoint.
I've never gone that long without drinking anything.
So the keto people actually get better and deeper detoxification
results. Because your body is already in
ketosis, you go into aggressive autophagy instantly.
Yeah. And so if you have, I mean,
there's people that do dry fast that have tumors they don't even
know about and those just get shredded, you know, stuff like
that. So anything going on in your
body that isn't helpful, you're just going to get into that
being reduced sooner. Like I've had over 13 fractures,
I've had multiple surgeries, rode motorcycles off road for a
while. So have some injuries associated
with that. And I made sure that I was in
keto before the dry fast started.
I, I, I switched my metabolism over before it started and I had
old injuries flare up much sooner than the other dry fasts
I did. And the reason why is because
the aggressive autopsy goes in there.
And one of the things that it does is it remodels scar tissue
and getting back to the body electric, you know, scar tissue
is an insulator. It doesn't conduct electricity.
So, you know, I have this giant scar across my wrist.
It's right on a Meridian where energy is supposed to flow
through. And it, it doesn't flow through
that well because I got this big scar, that scar flared up bright
red and hurt like hell for a day.
And then it went away. And then it just sank in.
And it's even hard to see now we've, we've had women do it
where they have these C-section scars, which is across a major
Meridian in that area. And there's C-section scar,
it'll flare up bright red, it'll hurt like crazy.
And then it will knit together, turn completely white and then
just fade. It's crazy.
Yeah. So if you have old injuries and
stuff, you'll get into the repair phase of that.
Just one thing because I'm excited about this.
And then I know we got to go. I had a lot of concussions from
my sport. I've been knocked out several
times. I've been concussed many, many
times. And there is little to no answer
to repair that damage inside your brain.
And both extended dry fast. I've done A5 and A7 day.
I had pain and dull ache in my occipital lobe which is exactly
where I had my worst knockouts where I was hit and that was
going on for 2-3 days and I'm like man I'm getting freaking
brain repair right now for free. What else is doing that?
Nothing. That's wild, man.
Yeah, I'm, I'm super intrigued by this.
I've never really given it much thought until this conversation.
So you've you've convinced me, man.
I'm 100% going to give it a shot.
Let's do it. Yeah, maybe you, me and Sean
will do one together. I'll be fun.
Hey, I'm all Batman. We'll do a follow up podcast and
talk about the the results of it.
Yeah, absolutely. I'd be, I'd be here for that.
But yeah, I mean, how exciting. I mean, it's, it's, you know, if
somebody wants to prefer a dry fast, they don't have access to
a sauna, but they're worried about detox reaction, just take
activated charcoal and vitamin C for three to six months first.
Just take it every day on an empty stomach.
Make sure it goes into your bloodstream.
Don't take them together. Although it's not that big of a
deal. If you do, that's been proven.
And that will be enough to move the acute toxins out of your
body. And you can do it dry fast.
And my advice is do your research.
August Dunning has a great channel.
He's got a great book. You can watch my YouTube
Forgotten Health on YouTube. Then start with a one day, then
do it to two day, and then a few months after that do a three
day. Then do your 5 or your seven
day. Don't go straight into a five or
seven day. That's what I did and it was
rough. All right, that is noted for
sure, man. Well, we'll definitely have to
do this again because I can keep talking to you for hours, man.
So I appreciate all the insight. Tell Sean, I said howdy on the
next call and. I will.
Real quick, where's where's the links that people can go For
more information on you? I'll link out to everything
you've mentioned thus far as well.
Yeah, great. So the best option if you want
to check out the Hemocon folic products is get biorecharge.com
and my general kind of info site.
I've got a free ebook that people really like that they can
download there. It's forgotten health.com.
So just forgotten health.com. Awesome.
Well, Theo, I really appreciate the time, man.
Keep doing what you're doing, keep changing lives, and keep in
touch, man. Hey, I appreciate it.
Let's talk soon. Sounds good.
See you brother, OK. Thank you.
Bye.