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Well, hello ladies and gents. 
Robert Sykes, Keto savage.com. 

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Today I've got special guest 
Sarah Pugh on the line. 

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She has a PhD in biochemistry 
and biophysics. 

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And we dive deep, deep, deep 
into the wonderful world of 

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light therapy, circadian 
rhythms, proper water 

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consumption, electrons. 
We talk about grounding. 

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We talk about how the body is 
able to derive energy from its 

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environment. 
Very, very interesting 

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conversation, very insightful. 
I learned a ton. 

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I've got no doubt that you will 
take something from this so that

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further delay, sit back, relax, 
do the podcast with Sarah and we

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are live. 
Sarah, how are you? 

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I'm great. 
Thanks, Roberts. 

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How are you? 
I'm doing wonderful. 

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I'm excited to be chatting with 
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So you I've got a client, we 
were talking about this before I

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hit record, but I've got a 
client that's following your 

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protocol as it pertains to light
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things of that nature. 
I feel like most people in the 

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space are aware of the fact that
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so to speak, is all kinds of 
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screens technology, you know, 
blue lights, things of that 

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nature. 
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on that. 
So I'd love to just kind of 

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learn more about your protocol, 
what it consists of, what are 

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some best practices and just 
kind of flesh that out in great 

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detail if you're if you're 
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Oh yeah, that would be 
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Yes, let's start. 
Perfect, perfect. 

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How did you get into in the 1st 
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health journey such that you 
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circadian rhythms as like a 
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Well, actually when I did my 
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already knew that light was 
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biology and biochemistry. 
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scientist, I had to work in 
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technology all the time. 
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issues. 
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of sport and I always cycle to 
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going in and out of the building
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labs and things. 
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much as I could have done 
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So that's how I sort of first 
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link between light and biology. 
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journey because like with lots 
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things start to go wrong, sort 
of mental health or aches and 

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pain. 
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person that's always looking for
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And after I was a research 
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teacher and that opened me up to
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activities like Reiki and 
acupuncture and Bowen and things

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like that. 
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how they worked until I got into
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Because it's not just about 
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the body not just as a lump of 
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computer. 
That we're almost like this 

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incredibly intricate and 
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being that's powered by light as
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which we work. 
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also electrical. 
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brain world would talk about 
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just becoming much more clear 
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more than we think we are. 
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biology probably about eight 
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Dave Asbury's blue blocking 
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of starting out. 
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like red light therapy and then 
like everything I always have to

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know more and more. 
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the time. 
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clients always knows that you 
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think, I can't help you. 
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I just don't know what I don't 
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And once you start getting into 
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like magnetism and water and 
stuff that 20 years ago I would 

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have just laughed my head off 
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woo woo. 
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about experiencing something and
feeling better and then being 

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able to work out well, why did 
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help other people, but still in 
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because there's all sorts of 
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to look from anything from light
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resistance to water to 
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So. 
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back what I do, but also as you 
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people don't really care about 
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They just want to feel better, 
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sleep better. 
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intro into how I got from being 
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No, totally this. 
This is exciting because me, I'm

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a I'm a skeptic I guess by 
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not being relevant. 
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some of the stuff, it does 
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while skeptical, very open 

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minded. 
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know, discredit something if I 
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I mean, I've, I've got myself in
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that. 
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And when I can tell that people 
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success with something and 
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like, who am I to say that 
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Like if they've controlled for 
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confident that that's what has 
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I want to say they're wrong. 
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And as far as the, you know, 
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intuitive sense to me. 
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You know, if we're in in line 
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when the sunrise, when the sun 
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up with the sun and go to sleep 
with the sun, I always feel 

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better. 
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subjectively speaking, that's 
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But when it comes to making that
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intentional practice, I'd love 
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on some of the science there. 
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new to me. 
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chiropractor meeting the other 
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about this weird group of people
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don't eat and they just stare at
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was super skeptical about. 
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some some semblance of truth to 
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some degree I would think, 
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in it. 
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talking about breatharians 
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outside all the time. 
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and questioning, but I won't 
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to me, I'm wary. 
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so is nature and coming in the 
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to me about the quantum 
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any and you can't charge people 
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much, because it's very 
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something where nobody profits. 
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that's kind of quite a good way 
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Because when it comes to energy 
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think, you know, it's just I eat
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gather energy from the sun 
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and electrons to some extent and
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to be able to use the energy 
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a lot of electrons, like I don't
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electrons, but it's like a 
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and information around the body.
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the better our chemical 
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current in the body. 
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iPhones or devices are running 
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battery's charged, all works 
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flummox people a little bit. 
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evidence for this. 
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not away from the food space, 
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I there must be sort of energy 
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Wilheim Reich, and it's been 
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fields in the body. 
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breatharians because maybe it is
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a lot of your energy from the 
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sort of daily life and being 
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he's studied circadian rhythms 
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influences appetite and if 
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blue light or horrible lighting 
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information, not the sun, they 
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teachers and hippies that did 
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I'm not really interested in 
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If we went into the biochemistry
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appetite suppressing pathways. 
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studies showing when people work
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artificial blue light, they eat 
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their blood sugar, their their 
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And it's just the, the data's so
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with the fact that when people 
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more, they're more insulin 
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resistance. 
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of 30 years of research of this.
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like 3 papers when Doctor 
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think in the sort of 70s or 
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And now there's, you know, 
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So there is plenty of science 
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something that people can feel 
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Then the other thing which we 
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So a lot of people will know 
that if they sort of have to fly

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on an airplane or go somewhere 
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and their environment's all 
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unpleasant symptoms. 
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somewhere and felt jet lag. 
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disrupted circadian rhythm feels
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So you can have so-called jet 
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rhythm all by yourself without 
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start interfering with the light
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get the party started or to get 
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beginning to flow properly in 
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would be the trigger to get the 
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predict the future and some 
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going, like the gut or making 
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So these light signals help to 
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can make the right hormone or 
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right part of the body at the 
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illnesses. 
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sunrise in the morning, a bit 
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phone if it's sort of got stuck.
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like completely basic. 
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sunset just so the body gets the
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for going to bed because it it's
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when it's blue light and bright,
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mitochondria. 
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going to sleep. 
We need our sleep and we need to

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be in the dark to get prepared 
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the next day and do it all over 
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completely brand new to this and
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OK, I believe you that light 
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Tell me what to do. 
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outside sort of in the morning 
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That's when you sort of make 

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your neurotransmitters like 
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If possible, go out to get some 
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block blue light as soon as the 
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going to the having a going to 
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of 9:00 PM at night. 
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that would feel like it was 12 
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And that's sort of the very sort
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But but as you probably know, 
working, doing what you do often

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the absolute basics done really,
really well is all that people 

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need to do. 
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very easy to over complicate and
get shiny new quantum object 

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syndrome. 
Yeah, Yeah, No, totally. 

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Well, I, I was kind of opened up
to all of this. 

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I, like I said, I've had a few 
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about, you know, light therapies
or catering rhythms in the past.

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But like in working with my 
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gentleman and his calories are 
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reported near the hunger I would
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intake to have, even with a down
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So like in my mind, I'm like, 
man, you got to be hungry at 

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this intake. 
Like, like what? 

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What are you feeling like? 
He's like, man, I've been 

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getting enough sunlight and I 
think that's really helped from 

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a satiety standpoint, which just
sounded, you know, crazy to me 

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because I'm so used to eating 
low calories for competitions 

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and being just ravenous at that 
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diet. 
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opened my eyes up to it because 
like if I'm selfishly thinking 

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for myself, if I'm in a prep and
I can just simply prioritize 

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more light therapy and that 
makes the lower calories more 

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tolerable, that would be a huge 
win and just making the overall 

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process more sustainable. 
So to look at it from an extreme

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standpoint with these 
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suggesting anybody do what 
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what is it that they are doing? 
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And that we can kind of just 
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people can see what is 
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OK, so I have a friend who is a 
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But then really they 
fundamentally they would just 

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use the energy of the Earth. 
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energy from electrons and then 
we've got potential to be a 

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solar panel. 
And there's also ways to make or

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have more energy from the water 
that you drink, like structuring

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water. 
So there's a bigger availability

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of electrons. 
So it's all about electrons 

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because if we've got enough of 
those, then the processes in the

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body are going to run well, just
in simple terms. 

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And the other thing about this, 
just back to your gentleman, 

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because I mentioned leptin, that
this is a light driven circadian

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hormone that regulates 
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hormones, thyroid and all sorts 
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So what you're basically asking 
is, is it possible to eat less 

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food, get your energy from the 
sun and grounding, but without 

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messing up all the hormones? 
Because I've done all sorts of 

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different ways of eating. 
And you, being a bodybuilder 

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will know that there's the 
metabolic crash if you try and 

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starve yourself. 
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to get better again and people 
can rebound and gain a huge 

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amount of weight. 
So yes, that would be the sort 

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of simple way to explain it. 
But also the other thing, the 

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way we can think about it is if 
we think about the mitochondria,

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so fundamentally, when we eat 
food, we're going to get protons

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and electrons from the food. 
That's what the mitochondria 

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wants. 
So the electrons go down the 

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electron transport chain. 
So it's like an electric current

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and then the protons, the H 
pluses, the hydrogens go down 

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the Atpas, which is like a 
little motor in the mitochondria

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and that spins and then ATP can 
come out. 

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So, so we've got like a little 
way to make energy that the 

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mitochondria also make water as 
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So that's really important 
because the way all of this fits

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together is how on earth can 
sunlight power us? 

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Well, actually it's our water 
battery because there's a lot 

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more to water than people think.
And this is where this idea of 

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the body being electrical and 
based on semiconduction and the 

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water matrix with the proteins 
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this water battery. 
So, so we can think that the 

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mitochondria are kind of 
fundamental for making energy 

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when it comes to say, being 
outside in UV light, in, in 

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bright light, say like your 
gentleman, um, we assume he sees

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the sunrise, which is really 
important for leptin signaling 

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and thyroid that the pathway. 
So we'll think, okay, is his 

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metabolic rate and his thyroid 
and everything are functioning 

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well due to his light habits. 
May yes, he could well have a, a

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lower sort of overall metabolism
just because that's what can 

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happen when people are older. 
So when people go out in the UV 

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light, first of all, it makes 
alpha MSH, which makes a, a 

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suntan or melanin, but it that 
also inhibits appetite. 

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And then also the UV light makes
things like dopamine and 

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serotonin, which again a sort of
appetite, sort of. 

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That they make you feel 
satisfied and content so that 

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the desire for food isn't there.
And what the other thing that UV

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light does, it produces nitric 
oxide. 

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So this can halt the electron 
transport chain. 

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But because the person's bathing
in light, the ATP as can still 

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spin and produce ATP, but it can
do it without the need for food 

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electrons. 
So what what I'm saying is we've

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got this capacity when there's 
bright light, the UV be light to

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be able to use that energy to 
run our systems. 

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And then we don't have the 
requirement for the electrons 

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from the food. 
So from lots of levels, it's 

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entirely possible for your 
gentleman to do this. 

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So first of all, the light 
signals would be able to ensure 

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that he didn't feel hungry. 
But then from a biological 

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level, his mitochondria can. 
The Atpas can still spin in the 

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presence of light. 
So red light will make that 

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spin. 
There's always red light outside

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that. 
That's what sort of about 50% of

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the sun is. 
And then we've got the UV light,

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which adds on to this to mean 
that technically he wouldn't 

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need food also when you're 
outside. 

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And if he's grounded and in red 
light, that also expands the 

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exclusion zone or the fourth 
phase or the coherent water. 

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So that would be in simple 
terms, meaning we're expanding 

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our water battery. 
So there's easily the potential 

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for him to just function 
perfectly happily without 

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requiring food. 
But just like I do think like 

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you sometimes that of course 
sort of actual nutrition like 

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minerals and vitamins and things
are important. 

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But yes, it is possible to do 
that. 

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And again, he could always run 
some lab tests and if he's 

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perfectly happy, you'd probably 
find that his labs are fine, his

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leptin's fine, and he says he 
feels good. 

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Also, you'd have to ask him 
about sleeping because that's 

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another thing when people 
calorie restrict or they are new

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to a keto diet and they're not 
used to being in ketosis, they 

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often reports not being able to 
sleep properly. 

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And you yourself will know that 
before cutting or during cutting

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for a competition, it can be 
harder to sleep because your 

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body just wants you to get out 
of bed and look for food. 

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And the same with doing fasting 
over three or four days. 

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That's when the sleep can become
a problem because your body's 

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like, Oh no, you know, you need,
you need, you can't be sleeping.

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You need to be getting up and 
looking for food. 

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So yes, it's definitely 
possible. 

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And it's one of these other 
things. 

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It it, it depends also your on 
your environments. 

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Because like I was saying, if 
people are just inside under 

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blue light all day, that's not 
going to work. 

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As I said before, there's 
numerous studies about the 

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artificial light and being 
around a lot of tech which 

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disrupts the energy systems in 
the body and people just want to

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eat food. 
So that would be a sort of 

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explanation based on what we've 
been talking about, on how that 

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would be possible. 
And and to be clear, he he's not

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a breatharian like I do, I do 
prescribe him macro. 

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So he is eating some, he's just 
not near as hungry as I would 

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imagine him to be at his current
intake. 

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But like your friend who is a 
breatharian, what is that 

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defined as exactly? 
Like are they consuming food? 

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Like, like how often are they 
consuming food because they're. 

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Well, The thing is this is a 
really complicated topic because

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there are a few so-called 
breatharians of people that 

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haven't eaten anything for five 
years. 

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But the breatharians I know, 
they do juice sometimes. 

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So it's one of these. 
This is a really interesting 

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topic because what people say 
they do online or whatever and 

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what they actually do could be 
two completely different things.

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So you'd have to have a secret 
camera, but really a true 

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breatharian would just function 
on the ambient energy available,

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say, well, just say the 
universe. 

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And as as we know from sort of 
people who've looked into 

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fasting and mineral loss and 
stuff like that, and vitamins 

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and the way the body can recycle
them. 

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That's the thing that I don't, I
can't get my head round is where

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they get the nutrients unless 
their bodies just hold on so 

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tight to all their minerals so 
that they need less. 

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Yes, but but the breatharians I 
know that they do drink water 

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and as soon as you start 
drinking, you're going to start 

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peeing and that's when you'll 
pee out. 

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Things like vitamin, C&B, 
vitamins and particular 

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minerals, unless it's something 
they definitely build up to it, 

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they don't become a breatharian 
overnight. 

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They tend to often go vegan, raw
vegan juice, and then into 

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breatharianism. 
So my friend said he didn't just

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do it overnight. 
It was sort of a a gradual 

451
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,960
process. 
So there's most, there has to be

452
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,280
some kind of adaptation where 
the body just holds on to to the

453
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,480
actual nutrients, the minerals. 
So whether there are actually, 

454
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,080
I've never met somebody who I 
can categorically say there's 

455
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,960
evidence that they didn't eat 
anything for four years, 

456
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,160
although there are sort of 
documented cases of people who 

457
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,200
do this. 
And especially if you go into 

458
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,120
the Himalayas and when you get 
into those kind of cultures of 

459
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:32,720
the monks, I'm sure that you'll 
encounter breatharian monks. 

460
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,880
But then you're the question is 
what's the difference between 

461
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,760
doing a 40 day fast and being a 
breatharian? 

462
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,880
Because some of the people I 
know, they do behave like that, 

463
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,960
but then they do drink their 
juices. 

464
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,040
Yeah. 
I mean, for me, like I would 

465
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,960
see, I mean there has been a 
documented case of someone that 

466
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,440
I think went like 370 some odd 
days believe fasting. 

467
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,200
And to my knowledge, he wasn't 
doing any of this, you know, 

468
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,800
circadian protocol or light 
therapy. 

469
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,040
He was just simply fasting. 
And I do believe he was taking 

470
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,280
in electrolytes and minerals and
things of that nature and 

471
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,520
staying hydrated. 
And he had quite a bit of fat to

472
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,360
lose. 
He had quite a bit of fat to tap

473
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:13,200
into for store energy. 
And I don't think I could 

474
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,120
rightfully advocate somebody not
consume food and solely 

475
00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:20,320
leverage, you know, light 
therapy and electrons as their 

476
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,880
their only source of energy and 
nutrition. 

477
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:28,120
But I do think that if you tap 
in in tandem and get your 

478
00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:32,120
nutrition dialed in and you make
the most of their circadian 

479
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:36,080
rhythm and light therapy and 
proper hydration, you can 

480
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,160
certainly get the most 
proverbial bang for your buck. 

481
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,840
Minimize signalings of hunger 
and improve satiety, have proper

482
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,320
hormone function, improved 
natural melatonin levels. 

483
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,960
Like all of that makes total 
sense to me. 

484
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
That is not a far stretch at 
all. 

485
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,640
But I don't think I would ever 
be able to say or advocate that 

486
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,200
somebody relies solely on 
looking at the sunrise and 

487
00:26:58,200 --> 00:26:59,880
sunset as their only form of 
nutrition. 

488
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,520
Oh no, I agree with you. 
Because our, our brains and our 

489
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,960
hearts, we, we just, they just 
need so much ATP that they're 

490
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:13,360
the organs that will, will take 
the whack first if we don't eat.

491
00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,520
And also again, living in the 
environment we do the 

492
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,080
electrified environment, things 
like calcium and other minerals 

493
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,760
are much more likely to be 
dysregulated and they're not 

494
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,600
eating on top of that. 
It is a recipe for sort of 

495
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,760
osteopenia and osteoporosis. 
So and, and, and also with the 

496
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,760
breatharians, they'd have to 
actually be out. 

497
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,200
They'd have they, they're 
outside all day, like they live 

498
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,120
outside and they sleep on the 
grass. 

499
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,760
So they're kind of constantly 
grounded like a true 

500
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,000
breatharian. 
And also, I know that the person

501
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,360
you're referring to wasn't the 
guy, something like £350. 

502
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:52,320
It's quite a famous story and he
didn't eat for a whole year. 

503
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,360
But I don't know what happened 
next. 

504
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:58,720
But then there's also, as you 
know yourself, the, the risk, 

505
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,040
risk of sort of terrible 
catabolism and, and muscle loss.

506
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,920
So I think with them, the 
circadian practices, it's, it's 

507
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,320
like, it's like anything you 
mentioned before, taking things 

508
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,320
to extremes. 
And I think the breatharians, 

509
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,040
the true ones, if they really 
are doing that, it's too 

510
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,400
extreme. 
And I think it's just 

511
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,320
jeopardising the health of 
things like hearts and eyes and 

512
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,760
brains that really do require a 
huge amount of energy. 

513
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,360
And that's why humans eat food, 
because we need like an 

514
00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:34,800
additional backup source of 
energy to supply these very sort

515
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:41,200
of energy hungry organs. 
But on, on the case of general 

516
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,600
people in, in society, eating 
too much is way more of a 

517
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,200
problem than people being 
breatharian. 

518
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:52,600
So I think for certain adopting 
the, the light diet per SE and 

519
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,960
incorporating the grounding and 
really understanding water 

520
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:57,800
chemistry. 
There's, there's another level 

521
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,760
above this, which I won't go 
into to do with plasma, but I 

522
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,480
think there's for certain ways 
to get energy out of our 

523
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,480
environment, which means for 
people who are wanting to lose 

524
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,960
body fat or get ready for a 
competition or or wedding or 

525
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,680
they're diabetic or something. 
I think it's a really, really 

526
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:20,400
important tool because it just 
make, I just think it just makes

527
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,240
the whole process much easier. 
And that's what it's all about 

528
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,080
that if people can stick to a 
way of eating and not be 

529
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,800
bothered by want wanting food, 
that's the key to success. 

530
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,840
And the other important thing 
about this is if people are 

531
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,680
inside all day around screens 
and blue light, it's a terrible 

532
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,840
dopamine tanking. 
So it's dropping their dopamine.

533
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,520
So straight away they're opening
themselves back up to sort of 

534
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,320
addictions and cravings. 
And the commonest ones would be 

535
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,800
food and sugar. 
So there's ways to, I wouldn't 

536
00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,040
someone to say manipulates, but 
there's ways to, to, to optimize

537
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,560
your biochemistry using light 
and water and magnetism to make 

538
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,720
eating less very easy and not 
disrupt the hormones and just be

539
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,240
able to get on with your daily 
life. 

540
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Because when as you know 
yourself, when you're cutting, 

541
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,280
it's, it's to be very 
distracting. 

542
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,360
Your body's asking for food and 
you want to work or work out or 

543
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,760
do stuff. 
So for certain, I think it's a 

544
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,200
really important, an useful tool
and and it's not even that 

545
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,840
complicated and a lot of it 
doesn't really cost very much 

546
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:29,640
money. 
So that's why I think it's like 

547
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,560
a win, win on multiple levels. 
No, totally. 

548
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,640
I mean, when you stop and think 
about it like what it advocates 

549
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,960
is simply what we've evolved 
doing as a species since the 

550
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,360
dawn of humanity. 
Like just be outside, go to bed 

551
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,960
with the sunset, rise with the 
sunrise and be in contact with 

552
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,640
the earth. 
Like that's that's good rules 

553
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,120
live by no matter who you are. 
Absolutely. 

554
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,960
And also from a bio mechanics 
perspective, it is really good 

555
00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,480
for your feet to not be in shoes
and also from sort of 

556
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,960
proprioception that the feet 
don't want to be locked in a 

557
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,040
shoe all day. 
It's they're like a they're like

558
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,320
a hand really and they want to 
interact with the environment. 

559
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,400
And when I used to work in in 
movement, a lot of the times I'd

560
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,640
say to people, problems either 
start in your head and neck and 

561
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,320
work their way down, or they 
start in your feet and work 

562
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,240
their way up. 
Because like a lot of knee 

563
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,280
problems aren't really a knee 
problem. 

564
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,800
It's a foot problem. 
So I think there's a lot to be 

565
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,680
said about walking about without
shoes on just for the sake of 

566
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:35,320
the foot mechanics, because for 
any athlete, I'd pretty much say

567
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:38,880
feet matter a lot. 
And injuries is what spoils 

568
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,760
things, not just athletes, but 
also just the average Joe who 

569
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,680
likes working out. 
An injury gets in the way 

570
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,520
massively. 
And I would just say retraining 

571
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,240
your foot mechanics by walking 
on all kinds of different 

572
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,040
surfaces that are natural. 
It's not just about the sort of 

573
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,080
what we've been talking about. 
It's also another level, which 

574
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,760
is sort of better bio mechanics.
And then that's another angle of

575
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,800
quantum biology, which is our 
fascia because when our fascia, 

576
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,800
the collagen in that's 
piezoelectric. 

577
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:13,040
So when we move about, that can 
actually produce electrons as 

578
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,360
well. 
So there's sort of a bonus to be

579
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,760
got from a quantum level by 
being able to move about better.

580
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,040
And the better your feet work, 
the more sort of you can expand 

581
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,120
your your movement vocabulary 
and just do more. 

582
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,640
No, I completely agree. 
Are you, are you barefoot right 

583
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,600
now as we're recording? 
Yes, I'm sitting on a, on a, on 

584
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,800
a Swiss ball. 
I've actually got grounding 

585
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,880
shoes on because I nipped out 
for a quick walk before this and

586
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,120
I've got shoes that have got a 
leather sole with a copper rivet

587
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,360
in them. 
So, so I kind of nipped out to 

588
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,680
charge up my battery before you,
but I'm sitting on a Swiss ball.

589
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,120
I, I do have, I need to assemble
a standing desk because when I 

590
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,680
was living in America, I had a 
standing desk and as soon as I 

591
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,240
stood there, I thought, oh, why 
didn't you buy one of these like

592
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,040
10 years ago? 
And then when I got back to the 

593
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,600
UK, I've got I need to like 
assemble them properly. 

594
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,080
So yes, mechanics is is also 
something important. 

595
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,120
No I totally agree. 
I'm I'm barefoot right now as 

596
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,040
well and I I've literally gotten
rid of all of my footwear that 

597
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960
is not a zero drop wide toe box 
shoe. 

598
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,000
Like all of my footwear is now a
zero drop wide toe box because 

599
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,720
the arch support the narrow toe 
box that is typical especially 

600
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,160
in America footwear. 
Like it's just the worst thing 

601
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,200
you could be putting on your 
feet. 

602
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,360
Oh yes. 
And then regarding like I was 

603
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,880
like I was saying that with the 
overly supportive shoes, they 

604
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,720
can sort of really restrict foot
movement, but also these extra 

605
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,160
squishy absorbent soles don't 
actually cushion the blow. 

606
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,720
They actually make the impact 
from your heel up into your 

607
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,800
sacroiliac joint bigger. 
So it's like you said, it can 

608
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,040
take a bit of training to 
transition from trainers in or 

609
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,840
either you'd call them sneakers 
or Nikes or pumps or whatever 

610
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,120
into barefoot shoes and into 
just walking about barefoot or 

611
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,560
in a shoe that's just got a sort
of regular leather sole. 

612
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,679
But how do you feel well since 
becoming barefoot? 

613
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,239
Oh, much better. 
I mean I've always like I've 

614
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,600
always had an over pronation in 
flat feet. 

615
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,159
So if I'm standing on my feet 
for any significant period of 

616
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:25,120
time, I do have pain, but not 
near as much now as when I was, 

617
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,880
you know, wearing traditional 
shoes with art support and 

618
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,440
additional cushioning in a 
narrow toe box. 

619
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,520
Like I feel much better now 
having transitioned fully to a 

620
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,600
more natural foot pattern. 
Yeah, I think, I think some of 

621
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:44,600
it with the flat feet is a bit 
like me and glasses that half 

622
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,960
the time it wasn't that bad 
anyway and then you give the the

623
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,760
foot all this support so it 
thinks oh I can't be bothered 

624
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,040
now to support myself. 
So you actually create or make 

625
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,440
the problem worse. 
Same with people and vision 

626
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:00,520
because there's lots of 
benefits. 

627
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,960
Back to the light again with 
removing blue light from your 

628
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,520
eyes because that damages the, 
the retinol and the DHA in the 

629
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,760
eye and, and other structures. 
But then there's lots of healing

630
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,320
combinations of light at sunrise
and sunset. 

631
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,520
So there's blue and we call, we 
call it there's purple and red, 

632
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:24,000
but it it's very gentle. 
So there's lots of people who've

633
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,800
actually improved their eyesight
by adopting a quantum lifestyle.

634
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,720
Whereas the whole glasses idea 
or eyeglasses and contacts as as

635
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:35,320
well is people could have 
probably improved their vision 

636
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,680
by themselves. 
But as soon as you put lenses 

637
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,280
on, the eye thinks, oh, I can't 
be bothered now I'll just use 

638
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920
the lens. 
And also lenses or glasses block

639
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,000
all of these really important 
signals coming from the sun. 

640
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,920
So that that's the other issue 
that has to be naked eyes as 

641
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080
much as possible. 
And also if you can, naked body 

642
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:58,880
as well to get the full benefit 
of all the signals from the sun.

643
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,320
Yeah, no, I totally agree. 
On that note, what about tanning

644
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:05,280
beds? 
Like the tanning beds elicit a 

645
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:10,800
similar, you know, like 
improvement or is that totally 

646
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,360
different beast altogether? 
Yeah, that's a good way to 

647
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,560
transition in because I 
mentioned everything being 

648
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,360
energy and information at the 
beginning. 

649
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,880
So the, the energy you get from 
a sunbed, because they're pretty

650
00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:26,280
powerful is probably going to be
correct, but the information 

651
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,560
it's giving the body isn't going
to be the same as the sun 

652
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,440
because you're using ultraviolet
light in isolation. 

653
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,680
So it's separated away from all 
of the rest of the light 

654
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,440
spectrum, especially the near 
infrared. 

655
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:44,600
But, but you can use sunbeds and
I look for them if I'm going to 

656
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,560
use one because I live in, in 
the UK that's got red tubes in 

657
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,600
it as well. 
Because even though it's not a 

658
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,760
real sun and that's better than 
just having ultraviolet light 

659
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,880
because it's not natural just to
have ultraviolet light by 

660
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,720
itself. 
So there's the intrinsic problem

661
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:04,720
of that. 
There are benefits to the the 

662
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:09,320
sunbeds because vitamin D is so 
important and making your own, 

663
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,480
not taking supplements is the 
way forward just because of the 

664
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,320
complexity of what vitamin D 
actually is. 

665
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,640
And there's about eight or nine 
different sorts of vitamin D 

666
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,480
that our bodies make. 
So there's the benefit there to 

667
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,400
get to vitamin D and there's 
something called Asperti lamp, 

668
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,080
which is for making vitamin D. 
It's like a little miniature 

669
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,640
sunbed that's sort of FDA 
approved. 

670
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,000
So it so it definitely does make
vitamin D and then people sort 

671
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,360
of feel better. 
The other thing which is really 

672
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,680
important about sunbeds is in 
the UK at certain times of the 

673
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,920
year, like January that the year
when there's the most mental 

674
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
health and depression problems. 
Sometimes with some of my 

675
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,440
clients, no matter who they are,
I'll just say just go and use a 

676
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,560
sunbed because I've probably 
inspected all of the ones in my 

677
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:56,760
locality and they'll just say 
oh, and they'll go and say oh, I

678
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,920
just felt better instantly. 
I don't know what happened. 

679
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,880
I just feel so much better. 
So I think that it does have 

680
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,000
value in northern latitudes, 
sort of. 

681
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,960
Canada has sort of bad winters 
and some of the northern states 

682
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,160
in the US can be pretty grim in 
the winds. 

683
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Like I think Seattle and some of
the places like Massachusetts 

684
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,880
can be quite sort of grey. 
So I definitely think it's got 

685
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,880
some uses when you don't have 
enough UV light from the actual 

686
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,440
sun because it can be cloudy in 
the UK even in the summer. 

687
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,360
Whereas if somebody lived in 
somewhere like California or New

688
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,880
Mexico or Costa Rica or 
Australia or something, I think 

689
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,720
it's not necessary because it's 
always better to use the sun 

690
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:47,280
just because it provides all of 
the correct information of all 

691
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,600
of the spectrum. 
You're grounded when you're 

692
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:53,800
outside tanning, whereas you're 
not grounded in a sunbed. 

693
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,880
And also the sunbeds and other 
powerful light devices do 

694
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,200
produce quite a lot of 
non-native EMF. 

695
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,400
And everything is not just about
linear chemical reactions, it's 

696
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,600
about the field in which we do 
it in. 

697
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,520
So if you try and tan in a alien
magnetic field in a sunbed, it's

698
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:17,240
just not going to work as well 
as going out somewhere in nature

699
00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:21,320
on a beach away from as much of 
the technology as possible and 

700
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,720
tan when you're grounded, it's 
just going to function better 

701
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:27,680
because it's just a much more 
natural way. 

702
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:33,240
So the information you get from 
the sun outside in nature in 

703
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:36,080
order to sort of make melanin 
and vitamin D is going to be 

704
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,200
better. 
But you can still do it inside 

705
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,280
if you have to. 
And I always think with using 

706
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,880
ultraviolet beds or spurti 
lamps, if you can do it with a 

707
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,840
window open and a red light as 
well, and preferably grounded, 

708
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,720
that's the best way to do it. 
But if you live somewhere where 

709
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:56,960
it's sunny, it's not necessary. 
You just use the real thing. 

710
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,320
Yeah, no, totally. 
That makes all kinds of sense 

711
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,160
when it comes to talking about, 
you know, tanning, being exposed

712
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,120
to sun. 
It's, it's funny, the more I've 

713
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,120
learned about nutrition, the 
more success I've found in doing

714
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,040
the opposite of what mainstream 
society recommends. 

715
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,600
I think most people probably can
attest to them. 

716
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,120
But as far as sun exposure goes 
and and tanning beds 

717
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:22,880
specifically, traditional 
thinking is, is really, you 

718
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,440
know, concerned about the 
increased risk of skin cancer, 

719
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,760
Melanoma, skin cancer, and. 
They are highly advocating for, 

720
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,800
you know, sunscreens and, you 
know, high SPF ratings and 

721
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,480
things of that nature. 
Is there any truth to that that 

722
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:39,080
you're aware of, or is that just
all smoke and mirrors? 

723
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Yeah, so it's all it's, it's 
like the sunglasses and the 

724
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:46,880
sunblock there isn't that when 
they actually do all 'cause 

725
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,800
mortality and studies of people 
with actually getting sun 

726
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,520
exposure. 
There was something called the 

727
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,280
Biobank study which was done in 
the UK on 85,000 people and just

728
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:01,080
hands down the people that were 
exposed to more natural light 

729
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,280
and less artificial light, 
everything was just better. 

730
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,280
It was like the smoking studies,
it was so cut and dry that there

731
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,840
was absolutely no doubt. 
And even when they have studied 

732
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,560
people with melanomas and things
like that, the ones who continue

733
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,040
to get sun exposure live longer 
and usually die of something 

734
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,640
different. 
So the whole thing about the 

735
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,600
skin cancers are that the 
problem we're faced with is how 

736
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,600
do we know it's, you know, the 
UV light does have the potential

737
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,440
to cause cancer, but then it's 
not really the, the real driving

738
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,080
'cause it's because people are 
not seeing the sunrise and 

739
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,880
building a solar calour. 
So that's when you prepare your 

740
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,160
skin to receive UV light. 
People are wearing sunglasses, 

741
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,920
which interferes with the way 
the body is going to receive 

742
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,960
sunlight because it's not 
expecting it because it thinks 

743
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,000
it's dark. 
And then if people are sat 

744
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:56,440
inside all day long and a blue 
light, that's actually a massive

745
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,280
driving cause for for numerous 
cancers. 

746
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,400
I don't know the if there's an 
exact study for melanomas, but 

747
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,320
there's a huge amount of studies
for breast cancer, prostate 

748
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,840
cancer, colon cancer, and the 
artificial light. 

749
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,800
So it's a kind of tricky one 
because it's such a it's been so

750
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,480
ingrained into society. 
When I interviewed Scott 

751
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,240
Zimmerman, who's an optics 
expert and who he's done 

752
00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:27,480
interesting studies on melatonin
and near infrared, he said that 

753
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,920
also when you put sunblock on, 
you block the UV light, but then

754
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:36,520
you let more blue and cyan light
through and that can or does 

755
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:41,280
cause basal cell carcinomas. 
And when you start wearing sun 

756
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:45,200
cream and blocking vitamin D 
production, I think you open 

757
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,160
yourself up to about 25 other 
cancers now because the data is 

758
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:53,720
pretty strong about the link 
between UVB, vitamin D levels 

759
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:58,680
and health and cancer. 
So yes, unfortunately it is just

760
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:04,600
some people would phrase it as 
big farmer or whatever, just 

761
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,120
wanting to make more customers 
or dermatologists wanting repeat

762
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,880
customers. 
And then again, I mentioned 

763
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,280
eyeglasses before. 
There's obviously the sunglasses

764
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,920
companies like Oakley and 
everything that are massive. 

765
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,680
So there's, like I said before, 
about when something has money 

766
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,240
attached to it, then you have to
kind of be really careful about 

767
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,640
the message and the narrative 
that's being told. 

768
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,320
Yeah, totally. 
It doesn't cost much to just 

769
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,520
walk around outside naked, huh? 
Yeah. 

770
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,720
I want to talk about water 
because you've mentioned the 

771
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:39,520
importance of water having 
proper hydration as far as like 

772
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,440
electrons and and ions and 
positively charged when it comes

773
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,600
to the water that we drink. 
There is a big push right now 

774
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,080
for alkaline water. 
That's what you see in all the 

775
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,480
gas stations here in the States.
Like there's the water bottles 

776
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,760
that are all advertising is, you
know, be an alkaline having 

777
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,720
proper pH or having additional 
electrolytes in them. 

778
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:04,560
What do you recommend as far as 
the the best source of drinking 

779
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,800
water is concerned? 
Yes. 

780
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:11,840
So first of all, I always use 
distiller and some people use 

781
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,800
reverse osmosis and that's kind 
of similar enough. 

782
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,960
So I just strip out everything 
because goodness knows what's in

783
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,120
tap water. 
So I distill it and then I re 

784
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,000
mineralize. 
So some people use something 

785
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,040
called Quinton. 
It's just a sort of seawater 

786
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,040
mineral. 
I use like sodium, which in like

787
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,400
sea salts and potassium, I've 
got certain brands I really like

788
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,440
and then some magnesium and some
other minerals. 

789
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,160
So I make my I re mineralize the
water myself with what I want in

790
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,040
it. 
Then if we think about water how

791
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,800
it would be naturally in the 
environment, quite a lot of time

792
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,320
it comes thundering down a 
stream or a mountain so it's 

793
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,520
being vortexed and it's also 
outside in the sunlight to be 

794
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,920
able to be structured. 
So very simply, I just would 

795
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,120
restructure it by putting it in 
some glass and putting it out in

796
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,040
the sun. 
Once I've re mineralized it, 

797
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,680
this could go off into a giant 
rabbit hole because I'm very 

798
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:09,840
into water. 
And I you can also make or buy 

799
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:13,880
magnetic vortexes, which would 
sort of mimic the pattern which 

800
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:17,440
water would sort of flow quickly
down a stream or a mountain. 

801
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,440
And this is the work of Victor 
Schalberg. 

802
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,680
He was known as the water 
wizard. 

803
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,560
I think he lived about 200 years
ago and he was like Nikola 

804
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,920
Tesla. 
He was sort of a phenomenally 

805
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,920
intelligent man with a 
phenomenal understanding of 

806
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,480
biophysics. 
So when it comes to the alkaline

807
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:41,000
water is isn't it doesn't really
buy it for me with the the way I

808
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,560
would view water because again, 
water is supposed to contain 

809
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:47,440
sort of information. 
So when you put it back in, out 

810
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,280
in the sun, again, it's 
collecting energy and 

811
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,800
information from the sun. 
And then the vortex thing is a 

812
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,320
particular kind of information 
and energy you're giving it. 

813
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,280
Whereas if it's in a plastic 
bottle sitting in a garage under

814
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:04,000
blue light, I don't really think
that's the best way to do 

815
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,960
things. 
And when it comes to minerals, 

816
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,040
it's like anything, when 
something's mass produced, 

817
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:11,280
they're always going to choose 
the cheapest because they just 

818
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,040
want a profit. 
Whereas if you buy your own 

819
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:18,960
salts and minerals that are good
quality, you can make your own 

820
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,520
mineral water that's much better
than what you could buy in the 

821
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,720
shops. 
And then there are all sorts of 

822
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:29,120
other water rabbit holes we 
could go into, from hydrogen, 

823
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,640
hydrogen waters to Kangan and 
all of these things. 

824
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,160
But that might be just a bit too
much because that's getting into

825
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,200
the territory of, oh, I have to 
buy something now. 

826
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Whereas it's free to. 
Distillers are really cheap, 

827
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,000
minerals are not expensive, and 
putting your water outside in 

828
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,240
the sun it is free. 
So you can do a lot of things 

829
00:46:49,240 --> 00:46:52,240
without having to buy anything. 
What's interesting that you 

830
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,800
mentioned is the, the Canyon 
water because I didn't have a 

831
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,320
clue what that was until a week 
ago. 

832
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,040
I was in Brazil all last week 
and my host that we were staying

833
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,960
at, he had this Canyon, you 
know, filtration system. 

834
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,920
And I think, I'm assuming man, 
they were all speaking 

835
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,400
Portuguese. 
So I may be totally in the dark 

836
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,480
here, but I'm pretty sure it's a
multi level marketing company 

837
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,920
and he sells them. 
That's my that's what I assume 

838
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:18,680
is the case, but he was just a 
huge advocate for it and it 

839
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:21,320
tasted great. 
Like I liked the taste of the 

840
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:25,200
water, but I'm assuming that's 
just aph balanced water. 

841
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,800
Is that what that device does? 
Yeah, The thing is it's it's a, 

842
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,040
it's a hydrogen water generator 
as well. 

843
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:34,760
But with the Kangan, the person 
to talk to or listen to is Tyler

844
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,360
Le Baron. 
Because there's study, there's 

845
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,320
even a study in Pub Med about 
Kangan water increasing 

846
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,960
inflammation. 
And a lot of people who use it 

847
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:45,920
too much then start to report 
gut issues. 

848
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:50,200
So personally, I'm not a fan. 
And then the, the physics in in 

849
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,640
which the water is electrocuted,
if, if you're not using water 

850
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,320
that's been distilled properly, 
you can introduce up things like

851
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,360
chlorine gas and all sorts of 
unpleasant things. 

852
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:04,800
So when it, when it comes to 
making fancy water, if people 

853
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,120
did want to buy something, then 
there's the Hydrofix, which 

854
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:13,960
makes really good hydrogen water
and it's used there's, it's used

855
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,800
medically in, in Japan. 
And then there are probably 

856
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,560
about I think 2000 studies on 
the uses of molecular hydrogen 

857
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,920
and hydrogen water because some 
of the machines like the Hydra 

858
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,440
fix and there's other ones that 
are more expensive again where 

859
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,440
you can actually inhale the 
hydrogen as well as drink it. 

860
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,520
So for people who want to buy 
something, I would look into 

861
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:38,560
those two machines and avoid the
Kangan just because the the 

862
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,400
actual medical data comes from 
the the two hydrogen machines 

863
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,080
that I'm referring to. 
Because in Japan, using hydrogen

864
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,760
as a medicine is massive. 
They have a different medical 

865
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,800
system to the US and and the UK.
They use medicinal mushrooms all

866
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,000
the time for cancer and 
completely different things are 

867
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,360
licensed there. 
And the Japanese are again like 

868
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,680
the Germans when it comes to 
building for something amazing 

869
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,520
engineering wise, they're the 
ones who do it like the best. 

870
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,480
Sunbeds are built by Germans. 
So that's the route I would look

871
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,280
into. 
I'm pretty sure Kangan is also 

872
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:17,760
Japanese, but I would just be 
wary of it and I would look into

873
00:49:18,240 --> 00:49:20,440
the science properly. 
And, you know, not that I'm 

874
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,480
telling people what to do 
because people need to think for

875
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,880
themselves when it comes to 
purchasing machines. 

876
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,160
But Doctor Tyler Barron is the 
person to listen to. 

877
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,400
He's a very experienced hydrogen
researcher. 

878
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200
And and what was the the name of
that device again? 

879
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,760
Yeah, there's a, there's a Hydra
fix. 

880
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:41,920
It's it's called, it's called a 
hydro fix. 

881
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,720
And I think the company is 
wholly hydrogen that sell it. 

882
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:49,760
But in order to use it properly,
you'd want to get a proper 

883
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,000
distiller as well. 
Because like I was saying, if 

884
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:56,080
you put just tap water in these 
devices, and I said before, 

885
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,360
goodness knows what's in tap 
water, probably 40,000 different

886
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,280
chemicals and then you're 
starting to run electric 

887
00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:05,240
currents and charges and 
separating atoms. 

888
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:07,080
And I mean, I don't understand 
the physics of it. 

889
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,640
I can sort of sips grasp it 
simply the the you have to be 

890
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,400
careful what you actually put in
the machine And also any 

891
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:18,720
machines that plug into the 
mains water supply that make 

892
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:21,320
something special. 
I would just be careful of that 

893
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,120
as well just because you you 
don't know what you're putting 

894
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,720
into your machine. 
So it's a hydro fix and holy 

895
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:32,240
hydrogen sell it that that's the
US vendor that the Japanese make

896
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,680
the machine. 
And then there's AUS vendor and 

897
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,040
then there's another machine. 
I don't know which company it is

898
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,240
it that's that's much more 
expensive, but that would be for

899
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:43,840
people who are seeking out 
hydrogen and hydrogen inhalation

900
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:49,000
to heal something quite serious.
Whereas the Hydra fix is helpful

901
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,760
for everybody, but a lot of 
people find it's massively 

902
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,840
helpful for illnesses and stuff 
as well. 

903
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,000
Well, I'm definitely a big 
believer in consuming the right 

904
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,360
water. 
I mean, the tap water is 

905
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,760
horrendous. 
I mean, especially when you look

906
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,320
at all the, the, the 
xenoestrogens and artificial 

907
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,400
hormones that are in the water, 
spot all the chemicals like it's

908
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,280
not what you want to be putting 
in your body by any means. 

909
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,920
And what I've been using is just
a Berkey water filter with like 

910
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,880
a carbon filter. 
And then it's got some other 

911
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:17,760
filter. 
I forget what it is. 

912
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,360
I probably haven't changed the 
filter in two years. 

913
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,080
I probably need to do that. 
But that's just what I've always

914
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,400
used is the Berkey water filter.
Yeah, I think the problem with 

915
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,880
filters, we've got like a a 
filter company here called Brita

916
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,720
and people have, there's lots of
studies come out now and it 

917
00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:37,400
doesn't, they just can't cope 
with the complexity of things in

918
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,160
the water. 
But the big problem in water is 

919
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,040
the fluoride, because earlier I 
was talking about how our body 

920
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,720
is sort of electrical and we run
on semiconductors. 

921
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,920
Well, fluoride or fluorine, it's
a element, the most 

922
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,000
electronegative element in the 
periodic table. 

923
00:51:55,240 --> 00:51:58,320
So it's going to grab electrons 
left, right and centre. 

924
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:02,320
So it's like having your battery
flattened extra quickly. 

925
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,800
So the fluoride in the water can
be a big problem. 

926
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,040
And that's particularly a 
problem I think areas like 

927
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:12,040
Arizona and California and 
certain parts of Colorado. 

928
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,640
There's just unfortunately, the 
way that the water flows, it 

929
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,280
collects a lot of natural 
fluoride, which isn't a great, 

930
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:23,080
but then the water boards go and
add a load of fluoride on top of

931
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,280
that as well. 
So getting the fluoride out is a

932
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,280
priority as well because it 
definitely will make people more

933
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:33,480
docile and it will definitely 
steal your energy. 

934
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:37,360
And like you said, there's also,
the goodness knows, everybody 

935
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:42,640
else's SSRI and HRT and 
everything in the water and the 

936
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,560
xenoestrogens. 
So I definitely think that 

937
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,520
looking into distillers and 
reverse osmosis is like 

938
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,600
completely clean it and then 
start again and make the living 

939
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:58,400
water like it would have been if
it had come from outside. 

940
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:00,640
There's also something else to 
consider with water, which is 

941
00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:05,280
deuterium, the heavy hydrogen. 
And the closer you are to the 

942
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,240
equator, the more deuterium 
there is going to be naturally 

943
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:12,880
in the water. 
And deuterium is, I think it's 

944
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,240
like nought point nought 2% of 
all the hydrogens, which doesn't

945
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,880
sound like a lot. 
But the problem with deuterium 

946
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,880
is if it gets into the 
mitochondria, it's going to 

947
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,520
break that motor I was talking 
about earlier, the Atpas. 

948
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:29,120
It'll damage that, which then 
will damage the mitochondria, 

949
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,840
which will lead to inflammation,
which will lead to disease. 

950
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,000
And people like Doctor Laszlo 
Borosch, Doctor Stephanie 

951
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,320
Saneff, Dr. Gabor Shomoli have 
been researching this for a long

952
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,680
time so that it's called 
deutenomics. 

953
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,640
And the other problem with 
deuterium is that it's can get 

954
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,040
in get into sort of other places
in your body, like for 

955
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:54,160
cholesterol for example, if you 
get deuterated cholesterol, the 

956
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:59,560
deuterium is is going to it it, 
it holds on to molecules tighter

957
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,640
than the hydrogen would. 
So when you want to go outside 

958
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,520
and go in the UVB light to make 
vitamin D, if you've got 

959
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:11,320
deuterated cholesterol, the 
light can't crack it open 

960
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:15,040
because it's stuck too, too 
strongly together to make 

961
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,480
vitamin D. 
And also if you've got deuterium

962
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:21,960
in, say, your neurotransmitters 
or in your melanin, it's 

963
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,680
slightly different to hydrogen 
because it's an isotope of 

964
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,600
hydrogen. 
So sometimes the body doesn't 

965
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:30,080
recognize it properly. 
It doesn't quite fit into the 

966
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,360
receptors. 
So then your stream of 

967
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,360
information that we run 
constantly to run ourselves gets

968
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:40,120
interrupted. 
And there's a lot of people have

969
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,240
known for sort of decades that 
deuterium is harmful. 

970
00:54:43,240 --> 00:54:46,680
It's just only in the sort of 
last decade or so has the 

971
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,840
research really started to show 
things like diabetes, cancer, 

972
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,920
and the links to to deuterium. 
So that's another really 

973
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,520
important thing to consider with
water, especially in places 

974
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,360
closer to the equator. 
Man, it's just crazy, like all 

975
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:06,720
the stuff that we have done as a
civilization to make things 

976
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:10,200
quote UN quote, easier and more 
efficient has just removed the 

977
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,200
natural path that we were likely
designed to do from the get go. 

978
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,720
And as a result, it's resulted 
in all kinds of, you know, 

979
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:21,920
health problems and concerns. 
So what is somebody like someone

980
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,920
listened to this and they're 
probably going to fight. 

981
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,760
They need to have a degree in 
biochemistry. 

982
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,480
But if we distill it to the 
highest level, as you said in 

983
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,520
the beginning, you know, get 
outside and watch the sunrise, 

984
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,200
watch the sunset, get your feet 
on the ground whenever possible,

985
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,440
have as much skin exposure to 
the sun as possible. 

986
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,040
And then drink quality water 
that's ideally distilled that 

987
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,280
you then re mineralize from a 
quality source. 

988
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,480
What are some other low hanging 
fruits that people can apply, 

989
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,000
you know, easily and cost 
effectively? 

990
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,160
OK, so, so with, I'll just carry
on with deuterium for a moment 

991
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:58,800
because I, I didn't also say 
that in that the foods that are 

992
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:02,240
high in deuterium are things 
which contain glucose, fats very

993
00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:04,800
low in deuterium. 
So I won't go into too much 

994
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:05,920
detail because I know what you 
mean. 

995
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,280
It might end up being like a 
biochemistry podcast. 

996
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,400
But then the deuterium is so 
important because if you break 

997
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,120
your mitochondria, then you're 
stuffed basically. 

998
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,280
So people get in a big panic 
about the water, but I just say 

999
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,000
hang on a minute. 
Just remember that when you eat 

1000
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:23,520
food, the protons or the 
hydrogens are going to go 

1001
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,880
straight into your mitochondria 
with the electrons. 

1002
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:30,280
So the food that people eat is a
good way to control deuterium. 

1003
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,880
So with a ketogenic diet and low
carb and carnivore and stuff, 

1004
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,560
all of those foods are low in 
deuterium just because they're 

1005
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:42,280
predominantly fat based and 
glucose is high in deuterium and

1006
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,400
as is fruit. 
But that's sort of for a reason.

1007
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,040
I'll get into in in a moment. 
And then things like seed oils 

1008
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:52,560
can be something crazy like over
200 parts per million. 

1009
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,920
So we in terms of numbers, we 
don't really want our deuterium 

1010
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:01,160
inside us to get over about 140.
So in the 100 and 30s is ideal. 

1011
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,360
So seed oils are a deuterium 
bomb. 

1012
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,720
So are things like beans, 
processed foods. 

1013
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,080
Absolutely dreadful. 
So in a way people are like, Oh 

1014
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,640
no, I didn't know about 
deuterium, but I've been keto 

1015
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,960
for ages and I'm like, look, 
don't worry, you've probably 

1016
00:57:15,720 --> 00:57:18,080
avoided it. 
And then they sort of get into 

1017
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,880
the water. 
And then on the other subjects 

1018
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,640
of deuterium, because it's we, 
we can sweat it out. 

1019
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,200
So again, saunas back to sort of
talking about quantum protocols,

1020
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,280
saunas can help sweat out 
deuterium. 

1021
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:35,000
So can jogging outside in the 
sun, because when we exposed to 

1022
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,880
UV light that makes us sweat, it
brings the blood up to the 

1023
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,440
surface. 
So the, the sunnier place that 

1024
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:43,520
you live in, even though there's
more deuterium closer to the 

1025
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,640
equator, there's more sun. 
So, so you've got a better 

1026
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,360
chance of depleting it and the 
better your circadian rhythm is,

1027
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,480
the better you'll just remove or
detox anything. 

1028
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,000
And also, we're meant to be in 
ketosis when we sleep and that's

1029
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,760
another time your body will 
deplete deuterium. 

1030
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,120
So that would be sort of the 
very simple low hanging fruit, 

1031
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:06,440
the deuterium. 
So people who have saunas 

1032
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,560
anyway, that's going to be 
helpful. 

1033
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:14,400
People who avoid processed food 
and predominantly avoid carbs, 

1034
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,680
again, you're avoiding the 
deuterium. 

1035
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:19,400
And it's quite interesting that 
when you sweat in a sauna, it's 

1036
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:22,040
not quite the same as sweating 
when you exercise because in 

1037
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:25,760
one, you're in a sympathetic 
state in your nervous system, 

1038
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,360
like fight or flight for 
exercise, which is normal. 

1039
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,920
And then in a sauna it's 
parasympathetic. 

1040
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,000
So, So what I would say the sort
of low hanging fruit would be if

1041
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,160
somebody never tried saunas 
before that that would be 

1042
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,320
something to experiment with or 
people who've sort of fallen off

1043
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:44,320
the exercise wagon maybe to get 
back on it again to sweat out a 

1044
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,720
bit of deuterium. 
And then as far as the saunas 

1045
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,880
go, are you an advocate for 
traditional saunas that do get 

1046
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:54,560
hotter or the, you know, red 
light therapy saunas? 

1047
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,920
Well, I'd say one that makes you
actually produce some sweat and 

1048
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,080
water. 
But on the other hand, say if 

1049
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:04,840
you you're in somewhere like 
Georgia or sort of Arizona or 

1050
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,760
whatever, or certain other 
places where it's really hot, 

1051
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:12,120
even European places like Crete 
and Cyprus, just being in that 

1052
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,720
environment is enough is going 
to make you sweat as well. 

1053
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,080
So you you don't necessarily 
need a sauna, but I don't know 

1054
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,520
your your audience could be 
listening from all over the 

1055
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,040
world. 
So if it's not sunny, I would 

1056
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,560
look for a sauna and if and if 
it is sunny way you are to 

1057
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,880
embrace sort of getting hot and 
sweaty outside in the sun that 

1058
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,480
that will deplete deuterium and 
that there's a link between how 

1059
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:39,240
deuterium and light interact. 
But that's kind of a bit too out

1060
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,400
there for people. 
I think it's again, I'm all 

1061
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,680
about just tell people what 
something is, but don't make it 

1062
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:47,840
too simple that it's does it's 
not right anymore. 

1063
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,680
But then just tell them what 
they can do practically to deal 

1064
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:53,920
with the problem you've just 
told them about. 

1065
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,840
Yeah, 100%. 
Is there like a a test that one 

1066
00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:00,560
can do to see their personal 
levels of deuterium at the 

1067
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:03,600
moment? 
Yeah, yes, it was if the company

1068
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:09,440
is like water in the in the US 
and if there are, if people are 

1069
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,040
listening from outside the US 
that they have to use a 

1070
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:16,840
different company in Hungary, 
that's where Gabor Shomley and 

1071
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,440
Laszlo Boroscha. 
So that's a big issue. 

1072
01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:21,480
There's a bottleneck in the 
testing facilities. 

1073
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:26,560
But light Water Scientific is 
where you would go to get a 

1074
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:30,240
deuterium test and you can also 
buy deuterium depleted water. 

1075
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,400
So that's water that's very, 
very low in deuterium and you'd 

1076
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:38,920
cut your own water with that and
effectively flush some of the 

1077
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,720
deuterium out of your body using
the water. 

1078
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,720
And, and in Europe, deuterium 
depleted waters, a licensed 

1079
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:49,240
pharmaceutical for use in animal
medicine for cancer. 

1080
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,520
We just have different rules to 
to other places again. 

1081
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:57,920
So there's plenty of studies 
about deuterium depleted water 

1082
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:00,440
and cancer and health and 
mitochondria. 

1083
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,680
So for the people that want to 
invest in something, there's a 

1084
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:07,200
deuterium depleted water. 
But just drinking the water 

1085
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,000
alone and not in just eating 
loads of carbs and processed 

1086
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:14,200
food and not moving about this 
dog, it doesn't work like that 

1087
01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:16,880
as you have to do both. 
But for people who are thinking,

1088
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:22,320
oh, you know, I want to do like 
a fitness thing, I'll change my 

1089
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:25,360
way of eating. 
I'll adopt some new habits. 

1090
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,720
I'm going to do the circadian 
and I'm going to buy some 

1091
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,240
deuterium depleted water as 
well. 

1092
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:31,440
Because sometimes if people 
invest in something because the 

1093
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:36,280
water is is costly but not 
ridiculously expensive. 

1094
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,040
But often if people invest 
financially in something, 

1095
01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:42,400
they're going to do all of the 
rest of the lifestyle things as 

1096
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,880
well because they bought an 
expensive supplement or they 

1097
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,880
bought some fancy water. 
So that's sort of my rationale 

1098
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,960
around that, the water, because 
I don't believe there's a magic 

1099
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,960
anything. 
And some people who love 

1100
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:58,360
deuterium depleted water might 
say, Oh yes, well, you know, you

1101
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,200
can just drink the water and 
everything all get better. 

1102
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:02,960
Yeah, maybe it will for some 
people. 

1103
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,600
But I just think always you want
to have a multi pronged approach

1104
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,040
to things. 
But what I do, I do personally 

1105
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:11,000
use the deuterium depleted 
water. 

1106
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,120
I do like it and I think it's 
useful. 

1107
01:02:13,120 --> 01:02:18,280
It's definitely a useful tool 
for a wide variety of people in 

1108
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,720
Light Water. 
I know, I know, Victor, the CEO,

1109
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,840
It's definitely something that 
athletes are using, but athletes

1110
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,640
are very secretive. 
They don't like other athletes 

1111
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,800
to know what they're using in 
case everybody starts using it. 

1112
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,880
Yeah, no, totally. 
So as it pertains to you 

1113
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,440
personally, I mean, you're 
you're doing the ketogenic diet,

1114
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:38,480
you're not eating processed 
foods and sugars. 

1115
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,760
You're doing everything right 
from a circadian standpoint. 

1116
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:45,440
You're drinking the right water.
Did did you do all of this kind 

1117
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,440
of in tandem simultaneously, or 
did you kind of break it into 

1118
01:02:48,440 --> 01:02:51,800
stages? 
And if So, what did you notice 

1119
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,960
in how you personally felt and 
performed when you started 

1120
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,120
focusing on getting the light 
and water components dialed in? 

1121
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,520
All right, Well, I suppose with 
the ketogenic diet that was like

1122
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,440
a massive journey of just doing 
it wrong loads of times over. 

1123
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,280
But then I trained in medical 
ketogenic diets and then with my

1124
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,720
own ketogenic diet. 
I don't live somewhere very 

1125
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:14,920
sunny, but I do when things 
grow. 

1126
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,480
Just so I'm being honest with 
people. 

1127
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,920
I do eat my own fruit out of my 
own garden and I like picking 

1128
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,920
wild things to eat. 
But other than that I would just

1129
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,080
call that circadian keto because
it's sort of cyclical. 

1130
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:29,680
I don't eat the fruit every day,
but in the summer because it's 

1131
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,680
around, I just slightly and 
probably shift more into a more 

1132
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,280
low carb. 
But fundamentally, you know, I 

1133
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,960
definitely personally avoid 
processed foods, not just 

1134
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,000
because of the uterium, they've 
also got sort of too much iron 

1135
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:48,080
in them, a bit chemical iron and
too much iron suffocates the 

1136
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,920
mitochondria. 
And there's all sorts of other 

1137
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:55,200
reasons I could go into of, of 
why I would just avoid anything 

1138
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,960
from a factory. 
So that definitely, I've 

1139
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,280
definitely found that was 
beneficial, but there was still 

1140
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,360
more. 
And then when I really took it 

1141
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,840
seriously, because during the 
pandemic, we were all supposed 

1142
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:09,160
to be sitting inside. 
So I started an Internet 

1143
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:11,640
business and just got really 
obsessed with it and, and just 

1144
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:15,520
got manically crazy. 
And the Internet business did 

1145
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,400
really well, but I was basically
just sitting around light blue 

1146
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,760
light all the time because I 
kind of knew I shouldn't be 

1147
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:23,640
doing it, but just couldn't stop
myself. 

1148
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:28,640
And then, then I just had to 
just think, right, this is, this

1149
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,800
is, this has to stop. 
And that's when I really took 

1150
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,000
the sunrises and everything 
really seriously. 

1151
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:35,520
And then I could, you know, 
sleep again. 

1152
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:40,040
I wasn't crazy and stressed and 
depressed and anxious and all 

1153
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:43,320
the other things. 
And then with the grounding, 

1154
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:47,160
that's just something that bit 
by bit I've just incorporated 

1155
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,640
more and more because I, I got 
to the phase where I thought, 

1156
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,200
OK, right, all I have to do is 
do the light part and I'll be 

1157
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:54,560
fine. 
And I wasn't completely fine. 

1158
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,920
And then bit by bit I kind of 
collect different bits of the 

1159
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,640
puzzle, which is kind of a good 
thing because if I tried to do 

1160
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,080
everything all at once, I'd 
probably implode. 

1161
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,600
And so would clients, even 
though that's what they want to 

1162
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:06,800
do. 
They want to do everything 

1163
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,800
that's now and get better 
tomorrow. 

1164
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:13,640
So I would just say it's been a 
gradual process. 

1165
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:18,480
But definitely, I think when it 
comes to sleeping, light is what

1166
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,440
really gets people, especially 
if they start fiddling about 

1167
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:24,080
with phones before bed, which 
we've all done. 

1168
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:30,960
The grounding is something that 
people think stupid, but I would

1169
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:35,440
actually say that's a foundation
that now with clients, I get 

1170
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:40,640
them grounding before I get them
doing light because we need to 

1171
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:44,040
have electrons in our body for 
the light to be able to excite. 

1172
01:05:44,040 --> 01:05:47,280
So people haven't grounded for, 
you know, 30 years, you want to 

1173
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:48,960
fill them back up with electrons
again. 

1174
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,200
Also, grounding is kind of quite
straightforward and easy and 

1175
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:56,760
basic. 
So, so definitely since being 

1176
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,520
sort of much more or all about 
stricter with myself about how 

1177
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,680
many hours of time I actually 
walk on the bare earth with my 

1178
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,920
bare feet sort of as like a 
workout and I only have 

1179
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,120
grounding shoes now. 
I've kind of noticed a 

1180
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:17,200
difference, but but The thing 
is, I wasn't that bad to start 

1181
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,360
with. 
You know, I can still function. 

1182
01:06:18,360 --> 01:06:21,040
It was just like internally it 
was like, oh, I don't like this.

1183
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:24,600
The other things I've really 
noticed is when I go and chase 

1184
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,320
the sun, like if I go to 
Switzerland or the US, 

1185
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:31,480
physically I can just do 
anything, even with horrible 

1186
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:32,840
technique. 
You know, when you have to move 

1187
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,200
your suitcase and play with kids
and pack and stuff and I never 

1188
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,120
get stiff ever. 
But then when there's less light

1189
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,000
like in the Uki notice all, you 
know, I feel it a bit now and I 

1190
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,640
just I've never been able to 
get, you know, I can understand 

1191
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:49,520
now why that's the case, but I 
would say the light has a big 

1192
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,640
effect. 
But then magnetism is really 

1193
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,960
important as well. 
It's just really difficult to 

1194
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,920
explain magnetism because people
who've never heard any of this 

1195
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:01,760
before, if I started talking 
about magnetism, I think it 

1196
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,440
would just, you know, that 
they'd implode. 

1197
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:10,080
So I've because I've never had a
really serious anything. 

1198
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:11,800
I know, I know what you're 
looking for. 

1199
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,760
It's like when people have had 
like, you've probably got lots 

1200
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:19,520
of ketogenic diet testimonials. 
It was like categorically I did 

1201
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:23,640
a keto diet and my psoriasis, my
bipolar, my Parkinson's or 

1202
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:27,120
whatever got better. 
I would just say because I get 

1203
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:31,920
older every year, I always have 
to find new things to do so that

1204
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,520
I don't notice or I can slow it 
down. 

1205
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:36,640
So that's fundamentally how I'm 
thinking. 

1206
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:40,040
It's like no matter what, I 
never for one minute think, OK, 

1207
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,440
you know everything and you've 
got the perfect protocol. 

1208
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:47,400
I'm always out for how can I 
improve this and what can I try,

1209
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,360
what can I add? 
Um, how can I combine these 

1210
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,280
together? 
Because like you were saying, 

1211
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,360
it's also about making protocols
for other people as well. 

1212
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,080
But then when it comes to 
energetics of people, just to be

1213
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,720
a little bit more esoteric, 
there are certain people that 

1214
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:06,120
sort of gravitate towards nature
and grounding and, and that's 

1215
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,080
what really moves the needle for
them. 

1216
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,040
Some, some people are most 
definitely a fire or a heat or a

1217
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:14,560
light person, and that's what 
really turns them on. 

1218
01:08:14,560 --> 01:08:17,000
And other people are like a 
water person. 

1219
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,760
So they're the ones that say, 
oh, my distiller and my hydrogen

1220
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:26,479
water and, and limiting tech. 
So I'm not dehydrating myself. 

1221
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,439
That's what moved the needle for
me. 

1222
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:31,359
So there's sort of that level 
that we could go into with 

1223
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:35,080
quantum biology as well, that 
the actual way in which you 

1224
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:38,359
reconnect with nature isn't just
going out and being in it. 

1225
01:08:38,359 --> 01:08:42,160
It's about thinking about it 
sort of in, in terms of how our 

1226
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,880
ancients would have done with 
sort of air, fire, water and 

1227
01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:48,880
earth and connecting with 
elements as well. 

1228
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,760
So, so that's why there's not a 
definitive protocol, but there's

1229
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:56,439
lots of things that people can 
implement. 

1230
01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,880
And I do know that people always
sometimes want to jump to the 

1231
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:07,520
big shiny objects and it's like 
like a sauna or a magnetico or 

1232
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,439
something where really they just
need to drill down with what I 

1233
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:13,520
said right at the beginning 
about the sun rises, the UVA 

1234
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:17,560
light blocking the blue light at
night, seeing the sunrise when 

1235
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,200
they can, making their bedroom 
as dark as possible. 

1236
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:23,880
So there's a big contrast, nice 
and bright in the day, very dark

1237
01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:27,399
at night. 
And then and then also I was 

1238
01:09:27,399 --> 01:09:30,240
saying when I get clients, I 
always make sure that they're 

1239
01:09:30,240 --> 01:09:33,399
grounding and 90% of the time 
they're not really. 

1240
01:09:33,399 --> 01:09:36,479
So just getting those things in 
place and then work from there 

1241
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:40,120
Because if you don't have a good
foundation in your body clock 

1242
01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:44,479
and timing or if you don't have 
good redox or enough hydration 

1243
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,200
in the body, just anything you 
want to add on top is just not 

1244
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,680
going to work as well. 
That's why I'm just so much of a

1245
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,560
fan of just do the free things 
and the basic things. 

1246
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,160
The stuff where you've got to 
put a little bit of effort into 

1247
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:01,040
and timing to to change, not 
just buying stuff straight away.

1248
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:03,960
Yeah, no, I can totally agree 
and resonate with that message 

1249
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:07,400
for sure. 
I feel like the, I mean, you, 

1250
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,480
you can go down a rabbit hole 
with all the different bells and

1251
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:12,040
whistles and things you can do 
to optimize, but if you look at 

1252
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,920
it from a classic 8020 analysis 
standpoint, like you're going to

1253
01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,000
get the most bang for your buck 
doing the simplest things that 

1254
01:10:17,000 --> 01:10:19,520
are totally free. 
That's the same with nutrition. 

1255
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:24,120
That's the same with biohacking,
sleep optimization, heat and 

1256
01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:26,520
cold therapy. 
Like all of that stuff is 

1257
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,560
readily available. 
It just takes a little bit of 

1258
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,640
effort and it's so far removed 
from what our current normal 

1259
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,800
day-to-day and societal 
standards are that we just need 

1260
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:41,080
to return back to what we were 
doing and how we're living, you 

1261
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,720
know, 500 plus years ago would 
be way better off for it. 

1262
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,000
Absolutely, and also being 
uncomfortable is good for us. 

1263
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,680
Like it's uncomfortable to swim 
in a lake or do a cold plunge. 

1264
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,520
It's uncomfortable to have to 
get out of bed when you're nice 

1265
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:59,320
and cosy and, and investing in 
this, in being uncomfortable and

1266
01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,680
just dealing with it, it's 
actually really beneficial 

1267
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,320
because it's the hormetic effect
and, and you can't buy a 

1268
01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:10,040
hormetic, a home, a homeesis 
pill or how to deal with being 

1269
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:13,880
uncomfortable powder. 
You have to do it yourself. 

1270
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:17,400
And then this leads into sort of
better resilience on physical, 

1271
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,960
emotional and mental levels. 
So, so there's that aspect of it

1272
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,680
too, that, that you're investing
time, which is that's the energy

1273
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,680
part, not not money into 
something. 

1274
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,720
And I always find when you do 
that, and you probably do as 

1275
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:33,880
well, that that's where the 
biggest returns are when it's 

1276
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:37,560
that kind of investment. 
And yeah, people are just afraid

1277
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,320
of being uncomfortable and, and 
it's, it's good for them. 

1278
01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:43,400
It's like that as you will know 
full well yourself doing what 

1279
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:47,040
you do that you know, you just 
keep pushing your comfort zone a

1280
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,720
little bit bigger and bigger and
you're able to achieve sort of 

1281
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,520
more and more. 
And quantum biology and 

1282
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,880
embracing nature is a great way 
to do that because saunas get 

1283
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,960
really uncomfortable. 
That's the whole idea. 

1284
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:00,120
It triggers a particular release
of certain neurochemicals when 

1285
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,720
you get really uncomfortable in 
the sauna, but you feel better 

1286
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:04,760
later. 
So, so there's that. 

1287
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,160
There's the lovely, nice part of
quantum biology, but then 

1288
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,680
there's the sort of you can see 
Mother Nature's sort of 

1289
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,960
harshness in there that it it's 
actually a way to be 

1290
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,480
uncomfortable as well, which 
fundamentally benefits us later.

1291
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,720
What's interesting, I'm a, I'm 
an avid hunter as well and I go 

1292
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,400
out West most years to hunt elk.
And like last time I was out 

1293
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,520
there, I was, you know, in the, 
the bitter cold and elevation 

1294
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:32,040
hiking 60 miles a week, you 
know, with a loaded pack and my 

1295
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,640
rifle. 
And I'm doing all this stuff and

1296
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,520
it's, it's easy to look at that 
moment and be like, man, this 

1297
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,920
is, this is hard. 
This is a sacrifice. 

1298
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:40,240
Most people aren't willing to do
this. 

1299
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:42,040
And I feel good because I'm 
doing it. 

1300
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:45,760
But then I look at all the 
animals out there in their 

1301
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:48,480
natural habitat, all the elk 
that I'm pursuing and that is 

1302
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:50,520
just their norm. 
That is their day-to-day. 

1303
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,240
They're totally get comforted, 
get comfort and peace with it 

1304
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:56,240
because that is all they know. 
Like when your perspective is 

1305
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:59,520
such that, hey, this is not even
hard anymore because it's just 

1306
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:02,040
simply my norm. 
Like that's when you become 

1307
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:03,880
truly empowered and hard to 
kill. 

1308
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,960
Absolutely. 
And also do you find that you 

1309
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,360
sort of go into like a trance 
and sort of almost wreak, you 

1310
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:15,320
can imagine other humans, your 
our ancestors for hundreds and 

1311
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:19,560
thousands of years before us 
actually doing this exact thing?

1312
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:23,480
And it just feels kind of wild 
but kind of free as well. 

1313
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:27,520
Yeah, and I can actually relax. 
Like I'm, I'm always stressed, 

1314
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,360
I'm always busy. 
I'm always go, go, go. 

1315
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:33,680
But the only time I can actually
take a nap is when I'm outside 

1316
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:35,600
in the wilderness. 
That's the only time my body and

1317
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,400
my brain allow allow me to just 
simply be at peace and relax. 

1318
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,640
So that that's pretty telling 
for me as well. 

1319
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:44,920
Yeah, definitely. 
There's also more to that 

1320
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:47,360
because I suppose you to be 
connected to, if it be very 

1321
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:50,800
rural where you're hunting, so 
there's less electrification, 

1322
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,360
then you're really connected to 
the Schumann resonance. 

1323
01:13:53,480 --> 01:13:56,440
Every time you brush up against 
trees and stuff and touch the 

1324
01:13:56,440 --> 01:13:59,360
leaves, that's going to speaks 
like grounding and deliver 

1325
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,880
electrons. 
So your body feels like it's got

1326
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:04,560
enough energy to give you 
permission to relax. 

1327
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:06,440
Because that's the other thing, 
because, because I can be like 

1328
01:14:06,440 --> 01:14:08,600
that as well. 
And I always, and I always tell 

1329
01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:12,480
people you actually need energy 
to be able to sleep and to be 

1330
01:14:12,480 --> 01:14:15,640
able to relax. 
It's kind of, you know, you, 

1331
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,800
it's, it doesn't, you don't just
make yourself that exhausted and

1332
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,600
then you'll relax. 
So I, I completely understand 

1333
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:25,480
that, you know, I, I, I, I don't
hunt, but then I like crashing 

1334
01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:27,480
about in nature and in 
mountains. 

1335
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:31,040
And like you said, it's 
uncomfortable, but I also feel 

1336
01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:35,360
very connected to the earth, but
also in some way to, to act to 

1337
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,760
ancestors. 
And it is relaxing. 

1338
01:14:37,760 --> 01:14:40,800
And actually, for people who 
want a shortcut to fixing a 

1339
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,360
messed up circadian rhythm, just
going camping and sleeping 

1340
01:14:44,360 --> 01:14:49,440
outside on the floor of the tent
is a quick way to reset the 

1341
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:52,960
circadian rhythms and reconnect.
If someone's been very derailed,

1342
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:56,560
say from a gigantic sort of 
round the world trip and they've

1343
01:14:56,560 --> 01:15:01,360
taken like 10 flights and been 
in sort of six time zones, or 

1344
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:04,280
they just didn't know anything 
about circadian biology and they

1345
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,880
just want to get started as soon
as possible. 

1346
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:10,720
So that's something that's like,
you know, we can accelerate it. 

1347
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,280
You're equipping me with a 
pretty good argument to take my 

1348
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:16,760
wife camping with my son here 
soon, so I'm grateful. 

1349
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,320
Oh, no. 
But The thing is, if you, if you

1350
01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:22,080
live in the States, because 
because I love insects and I 

1351
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,880
know I'll tolerate them, but all
bugs, as you'd say. 

1352
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,160
But I've seen some pretty insane
things living in the United 

1353
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,840
States. 
Because is it the bugs that puts

1354
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,720
her off? 
No, I mean, it's right now it's 

1355
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:35,560
super hot here in Arkansas. 
So it's just uncomfortably warm 

1356
01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:38,600
out camping, but that's good for
that. 

1357
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:42,920
Hormesis is taking effect. 
Yeah, yes, well, she can sweat. 

1358
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,560
But also, yeah, that's a problem
because in Arkansas, it would be

1359
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:48,600
a bit like in Georgia because I 
think they're on a quite a 

1360
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,800
similar latitude that there is 
some really interesting bugs and

1361
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,920
all sorts of things want to bite
you in those states. 

1362
01:15:55,920 --> 01:15:57,400
That is very true. 
That is very true. 

1363
01:15:57,400 --> 01:15:58,840
Keeps it interesting though for 
sure. 

1364
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:03,160
Oh yeah, definitely. 
You know, yes, but yes. 

1365
01:16:03,160 --> 01:16:05,560
So she might, maybe she'll agree
to it in the fall. 

1366
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,600
I don't know. 
But yes, it's, it's something 

1367
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:12,040
that's it's being uncomfortable 
that you get a reward. 

1368
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:14,840
Absolutely, absolutely. 
Well, Sarah, this has been 

1369
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:17,680
incredibly insightful. 
I'm very intrigued by everything

1370
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,760
we've talked about. 
I am looking to optimize my, my 

1371
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:24,720
light therapy, my, my water 
consumption, my grounding, my 

1372
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:26,640
sleep, everything, anything and 
everything. 

1373
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,680
I think all that in tandem with 
a well formulated ketogenic diet

1374
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,720
is the best thing that any of us
can do, so I can't thank you 

1375
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:35,320
enough for all the insight and 
the time. 

1376
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:38,440
Oh, it's been a pleasure talking
to you, Robert. 

1377
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:40,240
I've really enjoyed it. 
It's been fun. 

1378
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,320
It has, it has. 
Where do people go to find out 

1379
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:44,720
more about you and and dive a 
little deeper into your world? 

1380
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,000
I go by Busy Superhuman on 
social media. 

1381
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,560
So I've got a YouTube channel 
and there's some long form 

1382
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,640
videos and then there's 
interviews with as scientists 

1383
01:16:55,640 --> 01:17:01,120
and doctors and sort of to give 
people the validity and all of 

1384
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,400
this. 
And I've got Instagram, which I 

1385
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,800
am active on. 
I've got TikTok and I've got sub

1386
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:12,040
stack for people who like to 
read things and not watch videos

1387
01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:16,120
or look at pictures. 
Then I have a monthly coaching 

1388
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:18,880
group which people can join that
sort of something. 

1389
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,360
If people want to work in a 
group. 

1390
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:25,000
Then I then I make courses and 
I've got loads of free content 

1391
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,680
as well, like all sorts of 
things. 

1392
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,480
So it's better to like I say, 
get the free stuff 1st and then 

1393
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,560
then see where you want to go 
next. 

1394
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,040
There's I've got plenty of 
things on on different 

1395
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:37,760
platforms. 
So it's just busy. 

1396
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:42,040
Superhuman or Doctor Sarah Pugh,
they it should come up. 

1397
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:44,480
Awesome, awesome. 
I will certainly link out to 

1398
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:46,360
everything, make it easy for 
people to find you. 

1399
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,720
Let's definitely keep in touch 
because I'm sure I'm going to be

1400
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:51,520
picking your brain in the future
as I dive deeper into this 

1401
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,320
world. 
But again, I can't thank you 

1402
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,760
enough for the time. 
I really appreciate all the 

1403
01:17:54,760 --> 01:17:56,200
insight. 
And if there's everything I can 

1404
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,520
do for you, Sarah, you just let 
me know. 

1405
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,720
Although that's wonderful, 
actually, there is something I 

1406
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:06,000
my very close and dear friend 
Sarah Kleiner. 

1407
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,160
I know her daughter really loves
keto bricks. 

1408
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,200
So I hope that that's that's 
what that's all I'm asking is a 

1409
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:13,240
keto brick. 
I'll, I'll get one. 

1410
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,120
What flavour do you recommend? 
Hey, will you shoot me a good 

1411
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,480
shipping address and I'll hook 
you up? 

1412
01:18:18,440 --> 01:18:20,400
Oh, no, it's no, I was kind of 
joking. 

1413
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,640
I, I think it's been so nice to 
talk to you, Robert. 

1414
01:18:22,640 --> 01:18:25,640
I, I definitely want to stay in 
touch on a sort of professional 

1415
01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,200
level. 
So you know, I'm all, I'm always

1416
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:32,560
here if you need any sort of 
guidance because, you know, I 

1417
01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:35,400
like to, I like to share things.
So it's been really fun to meet 

1418
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,600
you. 
Yeah, no, no, totally agree. 

1419
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:39,960
And the feeling is mutual. 
So again, I really appreciate 

1420
01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:42,360
you, Sarah. 
Keep keep changing the world and

1421
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:44,760
changing lives and getting 
people healthy and definitely 

1422
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:47,360
keep in touch. 
OK, lovely. 

1423
01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:47,960
Thank you.