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What is going on? 
You know, Robert Sykes keto 

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Savage.com. 
And today I have special repeat 

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guests, my lovely wife and my 
son rigel, Robert rigel Sykes. 

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We are doing a another pregnancy
update to podcast. 

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We did a first trimester 
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podcast, a third trimester 
podcast and we were going to do 

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a fourth trimester podcast, but 
we decided to do a whole 

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Standalone podcast about the 
birth experience specifically 

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because it was very different 
than we had originally 

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anticipated. 
So this is all the nuts and 

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bolts in the details behind our 
birth experience. 

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Again, definitely took a turn 
differently than we had 

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anticipated. 
But I feel like we learned a lot

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from the journey and we just 
want to share that in document 

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that and have you all come along
for that Journey. 

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So without further Ado, sit 
back, relax and enjoy the 

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podcast conversation with my 
lovely wife. 

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Crystal and guest appearance 
from rigel who didn't say too 

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much. 
He kind of just slept the whole 

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time but he's he's passing some 
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So I'm gonna go change a diaper.
Not this podcast is And so, 

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hopefully enjoy the show and 
we'll Dive Right In. 

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And we are live. 
Babe. 

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How are you doing? 
Great. 

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Like I normally have a more 
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Like people listening can tell 
that a little sleep deprived 

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right now. 
Yeah, you feeling. 

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Okay, it's tired. 
Yeah, I feel your way more tired

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than I am. 
I don't don't get it. 

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I think it's my Stress and 
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It's gone through the roof 
because you're the one that's 

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been in labor. 
You once had a surgery and I'm 

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just like, tired because I'm 
thinking about all these things.

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Alright, so we are back. 
Like we have done through the do

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not know. 
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podcast. 
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third trimester podcast. 
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do one more, a fourth trimester 
podcast, but we decided to do a 

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whole podcast about the birth 
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counter to what we had 
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And then we'll do another one 
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is basically the month or six 
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Yeah, whole healing process, all
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So for anybody that has not 
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trimester podcast, they should 
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So to kind of be brought up to 
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Crystal has been pregnant for 
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beyond, but prior to that we 
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ourselves up for success to do a
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A home birth. 
You can't want to give a quick 

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little recap as to why you 
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That round because you were like
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still are super passionate about
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You did a ton of legwork. 
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am really interested and 
passionate about business and 

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bodybuilding. 
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but all towards motherhood and 
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So like just as I put myself in 
those things, you've poured 

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yourself into this thing and 
that is the route that you had 

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in your mind to take. 
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going around? 
What was the motivation? 

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I think this is kind of falling 
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stemmed from really wanting to 
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be best for our kids. 
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into like the different options,
like there's birthing centers is

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birthing at home. 
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hospital. 
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regular Hospital. 
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different options. 
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Which I originally wanted to 
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talk. 
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to do as I found myself wanting 
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birthing center. 
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exist in the state of Arkansas. 
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no longer have one. 
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really want to have a birth at a
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So then I started really digging
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his wife has had for home 
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So I started taking a lot more 
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involved in finding a midwife 
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different ins and outs of it. 
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I just, I like to do things as 
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that other ways are bad. 
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this halfway. 
I decide to like go full in and 

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try to do the best I could by, 
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and finding out, if it's safe 
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So and I feel like every time I 
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preface the conversation by 
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Hey, look, this is what we 
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differently. 
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disclaimer, but I was super 
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process. 
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of, that's the way it's done. 
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not necessarily being the right 
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in place for you, no 
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nutrition. 
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misinformation around there, you

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know, at their about nutrition 
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the fact that, hey, look, maybe 
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as they seem and then I kind of 
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a ton of standardized procedures
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like, you know, like I don't use
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kind of like that towards birth.
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farming towards food production,
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process with the birth process. 
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standardized process. 
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That is very far from natural 
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infant. 
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leads to the next intervention. 
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like if I can stay away from the
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likely be going to the hospital 
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sweeps or anything like that. 
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natural birth, but going to the 
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making things sound. 
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Everyone becomes a normal thing.
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It won't lead to the next. 
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next medication. 
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one. 
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I was trying to avoid Yeah, and 
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do from the very beginning is do
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best for you and our son? 
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anything to chance and not to be
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matter, I mean, you've literally
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I've been doing some research 
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decision to do a natural home 
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standpoint. 
You have literally tracked, your

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Macros for the hit throughout 
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Team stayed on top of your 
prenatal vitamins, got the best 

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pint of vitamins. 
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active throughout your whole 
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missing a workout. 
I mean, you did everything right

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checked. 
All the boxes to set yourself up

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for Success doing this thing 
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very natural healthy, beautiful 
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all. 
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farthest extreme on the opposite
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planned to do. 
It was a pretty emotional roller

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coaster to say the least, and 
you all, I mean, best laid plans

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of mice and men as the saying 
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something that it was hard for 
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Be as passionate about this, as 
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and then to have all that 
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a moment. 
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recorded a podcast, we basically
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We were like a Week and a half 
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state of Arkansas. 
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help you deliver a baby after 
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basically final our home 
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going to the Midwife. 
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everything. 
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doing the curb steps, you're 
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food. 
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All these suggestions you were 
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I was doing all of them, all of 
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up having to do, was a membrane 
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I was just like, I don't want to
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birth at home. 
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But so when it did in a timeline
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you get the membrane sweep, 
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centimeters dilated, which is 
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membrane sweep. 
Hoping that I would get things 

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moving. 
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castor oil as like a last-ditch 
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Because that's supposed to get 
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opinions on Castor oil whether 
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Please don't tell us. 
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opinions and yeah, we didn't 
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We didn't want to remember and 
sweet but we wanted to do that 

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more than we wanted to go to the
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You know, so that was like, the 
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then after that membrane, sweep 
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the health department scheduled.
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department. 
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pass 41 weeks, you have to have 
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state of Arkansas risk 
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So these risk assessments are 
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you know, the baby having 
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complications, you know, they 
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make sure that the heart rates, 
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They didn't really have any 
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This doesn't happen in the next,
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is, I had to go into labor. 
I had to be in labor considered 

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to not have to go to the 
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cm, right? 
Yeah. 

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So if I wasn't then I would have
to go to the hospital. 

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Little yada yada, so, we had our
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And that was a frustrating 
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scheduled it on Monday and they 
lost track of the scheduling, so

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we can get there on Tuesday, and
they didn't have us on file. 

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You have a meeting. 
So I was, I was getting pretty 

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perturbed. 
We're just waiting there. 

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Yeah, four hours. 
Yeah, just for a someone to come

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get us and just do this because 
I had illegally had to make sure

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I had an appointment. 
So I just There was awful. 

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Yeah, so then they bring it into
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department and the people they 
were nice, I can do. 

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No nice, no, knock against them 
at all. 

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And then they, what did they do 
that? 

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They check to see your dilation.
Now, they checked, like my 

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urine, they check the dilation. 
They checked his heart rate, all

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of that, kind of just a normal 
checkup stuff, my blood 

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pressure, all of that. 
And they were saying that you 

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were about one and a half, maybe
two centimeters dilated and 

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about 80%. 
I faced. 

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So I literally had not moved 
from the memory membrane sweet, 

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like it did it just didn't work.
And at that point they're like, 

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okay, what do you want to do? 
So we're like, let's just go 

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back to the Midwife talk with 
her. 

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So we went back to talk to her 
and we're like, hey, can we use 

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the castor oil down? 
She's like look the fact that 

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your two centimeters dilated, 
you know, at best and not really

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fully effaced yet. 
The Castro is not going to do 

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anything. 
So that was kind of a aha. 

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For us. 
Because at that point, we both 

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knew that we couldn't have the 
baby at home. 

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Yeah, so we were we were really 
upset like leaving the health 

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department or leaving my 
midwife's house. 

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We were both just like this. 
This sucks. 

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Like we have to go to the 
hospital and just like how 

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looking at each other. 
Like, we don't have an option 

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and I was really upset, like, I 
was crying and it not that going

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the hospital's the end of the 
world, but it was just like, 

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Every dream, every thing that I 
had in my mind was now just 

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changed like, all of a sudden. 
Yeah, and I didn't really have 

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an option. 
Like it was mandatory for me. 

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That was the first moment like 
up to, like, that whole week 

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were like, kind of sweating 
bullets because like, look, 

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we're running out of time, and 
that was the moment where it's 

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okay. 
This is the fork in the road in 

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which we are not going to be 
able to do. 

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We had wanted to do, which was 
kind of disheartening, for sure.

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That was super emotional for 
you. 

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You were crying a lot that day 
and I was just trying to Jim, 

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and then from there, we decide 
to go to the hospital that day. 

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So we basically, I think the 
health department or the Midwife

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one and Health Department called
the hospital at Willow Creek and

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they were like, okay, we have 
this couple. 

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They don't have a doctor. 
They don't have an OBGYN 

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Specialists. 
They haven't been working with 

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somebody because they've wanted 
to go the Midwife route. 

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They can only go to the Midwife 
round. 

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You're going to have to go to 
the emergency department and 

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just see who's on duty. 
So, like, if you're planning on 

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going there. 
All right, from the get-go. 

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Like you meet with an OB, you 
have a relationship with them. 

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They usually typically will meet
you at the hospital. 

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Sometimes they won't sometimes. 
Like they're out of town of 

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they're doing something, but 
typically you get your own. 

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Okay, and we didn't. 
Because obviously we're trying 

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to the Midwife routes. 
So that was kind of a big. 

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You can have some issues with 
it. 

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Sorry. 
I'm just trying to make sure it 

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bends the right way. 
Just flip that thing up. 

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And then we get to the the 
hospital knowing that we weren't

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going to know our doctor know 
that we weren't going to know 

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any of the staff because we 
never planned on going that 

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right. 
Anyways, we go to the emergency 

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department. 
Makes me walk in the front door 

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like the main door and we're 
like, okay. 

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Yeah. 
We're here to have a baby. 

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Yeah. 
She's like are you in Labor? 

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I'm like, no. 
I'm just I need to have a baby 

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because I'm 42 weeks. 
And she's like, okay, I'll take 

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you down there. 
That's so we go to our emergency

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department. 
And then they basically we 

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listen to the triage. 
They have a sit in the triage. 

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They have the doctor on duty at 
that time come in and she was 

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kind of wanted to like 
automatically go to the pitocin 

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route. 
I was kind of weird. 

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Like that's one thing we 
certainly wanted to avoid having

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to automatically do pitocin but 
there's another drug called 

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cervidil which basically you 
insert that vaginally and then 

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it's, it's your cervix for 12 
hours and that's supposed to 

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soften the cervix. 
And help get things dilated and 

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move things along faster. 
So, we asked, if we could go 

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that route and stick, that's 
more natural path than going to 

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church pitocin. 
So she agreed to do them. 

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So she gives orders for that. 
They gave us an ultrasound what 

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we were in the triage to make 
sure that he wasn't too big. 

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It took measurements of him via 
the ultrasound. 

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They guess they gave an 
estimated weight of about 9 

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pounds and they said, okay, 
we're good to go. 

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So they will this to the 
hospital room, inserted, the 

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server do drug. 
Just basically like a little 

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second. 
That's almost like a tampon. 

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It looks like a shoestring. 
Yeah, it's really long and the 

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top of it has the medication in 
it. 

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And then there's a string that 
they can like pull it out. 

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Yeah, and then with that gets 
pretty much put that in the 

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wait, 12 hours. 
Yeah, so we went in and we got 

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that inserted 5:30 on Tuesday 
afternoon. 

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And then we stayed up 12 hours, 
basically, try to get some 

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sleep. 
But like there's a lot of pretty

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high we can only sleep and then 
the next Next day, like, because

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they come in every hour, every 
two hours to like, turn the 

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light on and see how you're 
doing. 

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So, we didn't get any sleep and 
we're like, just on pins and 

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needles the whole night. 
So then 5:30 morning rolls 

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around and they take out the 
server do. 

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And we're hoping, okay. 
Great. 

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We are ready to go. 
Let's go. 

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Let's get this baby out of here.
We are dilated and ready to rock

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and they check you and your two 
centimeters dilated. 

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Yeah, so nothing. 
No, no movement, whatsoever. 

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They said that your cervix was a
little bit softened, but that 

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was it. 
You didn't feel. 

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Different and that point were 
like, okay, I guess we're going 

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to have to do pitocin and the 
main reason we wanted to avoid 

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pitocin and pitocin is oxytocin,
which is basically a natural 

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hormone, but given this context,
it's it's not only natural to 

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take pitocin, but your body 
naturally produces it. 

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And so they're like, oh, yeah, 
your body already produces it, 

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don't worry about, also 
naturally produces testosterone,

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but you won't think about 
testosterone exhaust earnestly. 

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So, yeah, kind of a little bit 
misleading there. 

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Some kind of homework, but That 
was the only viable option next 

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up. 
So we started a super low dose 

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of pitocin. 
That was a really emotional 

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thing for me. 
That was super emotional. 

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Yeah, sort of crying them. 
And we started the lowest dose, 

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which was to mg an hour. 
I believe, and then every hour 

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and a half, they increased it by
another two units of two. 

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So we did that, you know, we did
that for 12 hours. 

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Basically that with pitocin 
contractions hurt a lot more. 

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So I was trying to not do pain 
relievers, was it was make, it 

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was going to make it that much 
harder. 

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So with, every time that they 
upped it. 

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I was just like, kind of getting
a little bit more anxious 

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because I knew that my 
contractions were just going to 

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get worse. 
So anyways, that was another big

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reason why I didn't want to have
to take the pitocin because it's

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so much stronger than a natural 
delivery. 

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That that like the contractions 
are so much stronger and so much

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more painful than it would be in
a natural delivery. 

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I've never Urhan contraction, 
but I'm assuming they're gonna 

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hurt no matter what, but the 
people that take pitocin your 

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body, it basically forces your 
body to have contractions. 

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Unnaturally. 
So like you can't really even 

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feel like you're not really in 
control of the contractions and 

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unites in tune with the 
contraction. 

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So and correct me if I'm wrong 
here, but that's basically 

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what's happening, which 
intensifies the strength of the 

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contractions. 
So that's why most people that 

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have to take pitocin wind up, 
having to take the epidural 

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because the pain just becomes 
too much to bear. 

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Yeah, so you had Up to 8 mg an 
hour was the highest dose at 

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that point. 
You had been in labor for about 

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12 hours, 10 to 12 hours in the 
contraction. 

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We're getting pretty intense 
this whole time. 

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We're like sleep-deprived are 
like not super emotional because

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none of this is the home birth. 
We had hoped for and I planned 

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to eat through my labor and they
wouldn't let me eat. 

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Just let me eat breakfast. 
And then that was it. 

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So I wasn't eating and people 
other people will do popsicles. 

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But I wouldn't do the Popsicles 
because I sugar in it the IV 

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that we were on the you were on 
an IV. 

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Drip of just, you know, 
electrolytes was I looked at 

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that there was no, there's no 
sugar in there. 

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No. 
Next row. 

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So it's just sodium, chloride, 
potassium, and I think 

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magnesium, a b and c were on 
that. 

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They had you up to a feat that 
hooked up to a fetal monitor. 

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So we're getting the heartbeat 
of ride to the whole time. 

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That was all super steady. 
He was a rock star throughout 

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the whole ordeal. 
His heart rate was like so 

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Flawless. 
Yeah. 

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But you started experiencing 
quite a bit of pain and there 

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towards the end after about 10 
hours or eight hours of 

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laboring. 
You had a partial break in your 

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water that increase the pain 
quite a bit. 

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Yeah, and then somebody had 
checked, you one of the nurses 

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checked, you broke your water 
even more. 

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Yeah. 
I don't fully, I don't know if 

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that was on purpose or on 
accident, but it definitely 

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happened when her fingers rub 
their chicken. 

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Yes, it definitely did. 
Did and it hurt. 

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Yeah, so bad. 
It was like, immediately when 

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she broke my water. 
Like, rigel just started like 

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freaking out, crazy in there. 
It hurt so bad. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, like, we think about it.

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The, once the water breaks, 
you've got like, that soft 

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pillowy cushioned from the 
fluid. 

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Once, there's no cushion. 
It's basically just rigel and 

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his all of his shapes and what 
not hittin you straight on. 

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So a lot more pain at that 
point. 

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The pitocin was up. 
Like I think eight at that point

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and then I was 5 cm at that 425.
They never said five. 

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Yeah, so still not nearly enough
to have a baby. 

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Yeah, but we kind of knew it was
like okay, you know like this is

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starting it more painful. 
Like we're we can do this 

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because we're halfway there. 
You know. 

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I miss one thing before that 
moment. 

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Before the water broke. 
They were checking you and they 

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felt his brow. 
Yeah. 

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They thought it may have been 
his eye or maybe just a soft 

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spot in the school where the the
school hadn't fused together 

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yet. 
So they were concerned about his

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positioning. 
So they had you doing different 

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positions and you were like all 
over the place doing positions, 

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bouncing the ball doing like, 
you know, hands and knees. 

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And you know that stuff every 
time you had a contraction for 

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the 12 hours. 
Like I was rub it on your hips 

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and try to comfort you there, 
but they were basically just 

448
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worried about his positioning 
being wrong and then, That 10 to

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12 hour, mark, when the pitocin 
was up, the pain was the highest

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you started taking you don't 
wanna do the epidural. 

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So you took nitrous oxide 
instead. 

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Yeah. 
After she broke my water. 

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I had several contractions and 
then it got to the point where I

454
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,200
was just like I don't know like 
do this. 

455
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,400
This is awful. 
Yeah, so he started taking that 

456
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:31,000
nitrous oxide and that helped 
you basically just breathe in on

457
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,900
that and held that while you're 
having a contraction. 

458
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,200
Yep, and at that point, the 
total like I had totally failed 

459
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,500
myself. 
Elf like I was just like, I've 

460
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:43,800
done too many things already 
like that was that was awful. 

461
00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:47,100
That was sad. 
Like, I looked at you and you 

462
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:50,400
said I feel I don't want to fail
him. 

463
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,500
That's what he said. 
He said, I don't want to fail 

464
00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:55,900
him. 
And you said, I don't know if I 

465
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:59,400
could do this, because the pain 
was so great. 

466
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:03,500
This is before the nitrous oxide
came in and I looked you don't 

467
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:05,600
like looking at a failure, doing
everything, right, and you're 

468
00:24:05,608 --> 00:24:08,600
getting teary-eyed right now. 
So now I'm trying to Then I 

469
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,000
can't say that I'm gonna make it
all the way through and yeah, 

470
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,500
that was just a super emotional 
moment because at that point 

471
00:24:15,500 --> 00:24:18,700
it's like look I can tell she's 
in pain. 

472
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,100
Are we going to have a vaginal 
birth without an epidural? 

473
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:24,500
Which is something we definitely
wanted to avoid. 

474
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:28,600
It was like, do not let me end 
up at her all, but I could tell 

475
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:32,000
that you're in a lot of pain. 
But I don't want to do right by 

476
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,700
Raja, but I don't like seeing 
you suffer. 

477
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,300
And then I don't like seeing you
feel like you can't do something

478
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,200
to completion and feel like 
you're a failure. 

479
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,100
Like that's like all of like 
Perfect Storm of emotions right 

480
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:46,300
there. 
And then they come in and they 

481
00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:48,400
check you again. 
The doctor checked, the doctor 

482
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,900
comes in and check. 
This is a different doctor. 

483
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:51,500
This point, then like a shift 
change. 

484
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:57,400
The last girl that checked me. 
She was like, I need the doctor 

485
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:00,400
to check you because I'm pretty 
sure what I'm feeling is. 

486
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,000
Good. 
She thought she felt a nose. 

487
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,200
Yeah, which quick little 
intermission here. 

488
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,800
That nurse was a rock star. 
Like oh that's amazing of all 

489
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,400
the people on staff, that nurse 
her name was Emma. 

490
00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:16,700
She was from Britain or London, 
or something like that. 

491
00:25:16,700 --> 00:25:18,700
She had like a British accent. 
We gave her a hard time about 

492
00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:21,500
from the very beginning, but it 
was like all fun, but she was 

493
00:25:21,500 --> 00:25:23,700
like a true Rock. 
So like she made the whole 

494
00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:26,100
experience so much better than 
it would have been. 

495
00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,300
Had she not been there. 
We trusted her. 

496
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,200
So shout out to him. 
Were there. 

497
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,700
But she, that she said, she 
thought she felt a nose but 

498
00:25:34,700 --> 00:25:37,300
wasn't sure she had the doctor 
come in to check after her. 

499
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,800
This is a new doctor that we 
hadn't yet met because they 

500
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,900
didn't shift change. 
And we don't have an assigned 

501
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:47,600
doctor because we're doing this,
all off the fly, he feels and he

502
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:52,600
feels a knows for sure. 
And then he says look he's faced

503
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,300
presentation, which this is all 
news to us, that we know and 

504
00:25:56,300 --> 00:26:00,400
stuff was so we look that up and
face. 

505
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,600
In happens, like what would you 
say point two percent of the 

506
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,600
time? 
Something crazy low? 

507
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:13,500
Yeah, like one one in every 
eight hundred births is a face 

508
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:16,700
presentation and then with the 
face presentation and basically 

509
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:21,100
what that means is like normally
you want the crown of the head 

510
00:26:21,100 --> 00:26:25,100
to be the first thing that comes
out because then like the baby 

511
00:26:25,100 --> 00:26:30,200
spins slightly as he's being 
born and then with that crown of

512
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,300
the head, And that's like the 
smallest diameter portion of his

513
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:35,700
head and everything is able to 
come out smoothly which is what 

514
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:39,000
is supposed to happen. 
Some people have a sunny-side-up

515
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,800
baby, which basically means he's
born crown of the head still. 

516
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:49,700
But then, like facing the the 
mom's stomach versus facing the 

517
00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,400
moms back, which is what 
normally happens. 

518
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:57,800
Face presentation is what we had
basically means that rigel his 

519
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,400
face was what was coming out 
first. 

520
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:04,500
Not the top of his head like 
from the from his, the top of 

521
00:27:04,508 --> 00:27:07,200
his forehead to his chin that 
was facing. 

522
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,200
Yeah. 
Outward and of the face 

523
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,700
presentation instances, you 
know, one in every eight hundred

524
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:16,400
birds being a face presentation,
an even smaller percentage is 

525
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,300
what we had, which is, what's it
called again posterior. 

526
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,000
There's anterior where they can 
deliver vaginally, and then 

527
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,900
there's posterior where they 
cannot, but they're telling by 

528
00:27:27,900 --> 00:27:33,800
the where the chin is in the 
Mom, so yeah of that of the face

529
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,500
presentations. 
So like in it, like if, if his 

530
00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:42,400
chin is past your pelvic bone, 
quite understand, it fully like 

531
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,300
it's kind of confusing. 
Yeah. 

532
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,300
Something something like if his 
chin is past your pelvic bone 

533
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:49,600
and in face presentation, you 
can still have a vaginal birth 

534
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800
if it's not past your pelvic 
bone and he has faced 

535
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,200
presentation. 
His chin is up. 

536
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,900
Then you run the risk of 
basically snapping his neck. 

537
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:00,300
Yeah, throughout the pressure 
either should look up this like 

538
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:04,100
Picture of face presentation 
like posterior face 

539
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:07,200
presentation. 
It is freaky looking like yeah, 

540
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,200
it looks like their neck is 
going to snap off. 

541
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:14,500
It's the weirdest-looking thing.
It's not common at all. 

542
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,800
Yeah. 
It was that it's like Point 1 to

543
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,900
point. 2 percent of all face 
presentations and face 

544
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:25,900
presentations are already rare. 
Yeah, so we just got the lucky 

545
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:31,900
straw which because of this 
that's the There's just a larger

546
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,500
circumference, when his face is 
like that. 

547
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,900
Which is likely why you weren't 
dilating more because he wasn't 

548
00:28:38,900 --> 00:28:43,600
moving down the birth canal 
faster, and further because of 

549
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,000
his positioning and none of 
this, you know, you're not able 

550
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,900
to tell any of this until like 
pretty much when it's happening 

551
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,800
because you weren't dilated 
enough to check. 

552
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,800
You have to be, I think they 
said in the second stage of 

553
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,700
Labor, like they have to be able
to get in enough to be able to 

554
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,300
tell what's going on with his 
position. 

555
00:29:00,500 --> 00:29:04,400
So you can't really tell from 
the ultrasound that we got. 

556
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,500
We can't tell from, you know, 
like the early checks that we 

557
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,300
had. 
So and we were checking early 

558
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:11,600
enough done and they can feel 
his head. 

559
00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:14,400
So we knew he was like 
headfirst, which is good because

560
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,300
like some babies are born breech
or whatnot. 

561
00:29:16,300 --> 00:29:18,600
He was not that. 
So we felt, you know, we were 

562
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:19,800
good. 
He's had first, she's in the 

563
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,000
right position, but then we 
couldn't tell that he was face 

564
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,700
presentation until you were that
dilated. 

565
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:27,000
We couldn't tell that he was in 
that type of face positioning 

566
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,300
until basically the final hour 
and with With the type of face 

567
00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:35,400
presentation that he was, you 
cannot have a vaginal delivery, 

568
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,500
like some of them you can't some
of them you can't. 

569
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,600
With the way he was. 
We couldn't or else. 

570
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,200
We would risk. 
Basically snapping his neck and 

571
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,900
paralyzing. 
Yeah, there's like, there's like

572
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:47,200
the chance that he could snap 
his neck. 

573
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:52,200
There is like brain damage. 
There's, you know, spinal 

574
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,300
damage. 
There's and there's a whole like

575
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:58,100
a whole list of things that 
could potentially be wrong with 

576
00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:00,400
him. 
Cerebral palsy palsy like all of

577
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:04,200
These different issues that if I
was like, no, you know, I'm 

578
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,800
gonna just still do this 
vaginally. 

579
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,300
Which first of all would be 
excruciating because he just 

580
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:13,000
wasn't progressing, like he was 
not moving down because there 

581
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:18,500
just wasn't enough space. 
But if I were to proceed forward

582
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:21,600
it could it would just continue 
to bend his neck backwards and 

583
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,200
cause long-term issues for him. 
So yeah or death. 

584
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,200
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

585
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:30,000
So at that point, you know the 
doctors like look you can't do 

586
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:31,800
this anyway. 
Away, but a C-section. 

587
00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:35,800
So I looked at you, you looked 
at me and that was like the 

588
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,300
moment cuz like the whole time. 
This is all going down. 

589
00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,100
It's like we've done more than 
anybody else. 

590
00:30:40,100 --> 00:30:43,700
I know to make this happen just 
the way he wanted to just like 

591
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:47,500
perfectly, you know, sweet and 
safe and everything. 

592
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,300
And then like every step of the 
way it gets farther and farther 

593
00:30:50,300 --> 00:30:53,300
and farther from what we had 
intended and then that moment 

594
00:30:53,300 --> 00:30:56,700
comes and it's like look we have
to take an emergency C-section 

595
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:59,900
right now, which is literally 
the farthest thing from what we 

596
00:30:59,908 --> 00:31:03,100
had wanted. 
So that was super emotional. 

597
00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:07,500
We did have Our Midwives there 
the entire time, so like she was

598
00:31:07,500 --> 00:31:10,400
able to kind of help us 
understand like this is not 

599
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:11,600
something that you can mess 
with. 

600
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Like you, you need that. 
So you need to be here and you 

601
00:31:15,208 --> 00:31:18,700
need to do this because, you 
know, she knew exactly what we 

602
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:22,000
wanted. 
She knew how to, you know, stand

603
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,000
up for us and things that we 
didn't want that we did want and

604
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,500
could help us to make those 
decisions and like understands 

605
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:30,500
medical. 
Jargon. 

606
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,000
All that kind of stuff. 
So I mean, one of them because 

607
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:38,000
it's sad to say, but a lot of 
people are kind of pushed the 

608
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,700
route of C-sections that don't 
need to have C-sections. 

609
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:43,300
There's often times. 
They're oftentimes told, you 

610
00:31:43,300 --> 00:31:46,500
have to have a C-section but you
often times don't have to have a

611
00:31:46,508 --> 00:31:50,000
C-section like a lot of times 
those two sections will be made 

612
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:55,300
out of convenience for the 
doctor out of you know cost. 

613
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:56,800
I mean, there's like some really
bad reason. 

614
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,900
C-sections happen. 
Yeah. 

615
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:00,100
It don't look happen. 
You can look up each. 

616
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,800
ER, Caesarean rate. 
So, if it's a high rate, then 

617
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,100
you know that they're probably 
leaning towards like if there's 

618
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:10,600
anything wrong, they're going to
put you into a C-section, or you

619
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:14,000
can go to one that has a low 
Caesarean rate, who is probably 

620
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,300
more prone to figuring out like,
okay, how can we avoid this? 

621
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,500
So you can look it up on 
different doctors, but when you 

622
00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:25,500
happen to just stroll, into the 
emergency department and are 

623
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,300
given whatever doctor you're 
given. 

624
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:30,400
You don't know what their rates 
going to be, you know. 

625
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:35,100
Yeah, but when we kind of did 
some digging on as to what I was

626
00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:38,100
going on, it was very clear that
this is a legitimate, emergency 

627
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:41,600
situation situation that 
requires an emergency C-section.

628
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,200
There is no other option unless 
you risk, you know, paralyzation

629
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,700
or death of Ryan Jewel, which we
obviously didn't want. 

630
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,800
And then unnecessary risk for 
you, which I obviously didn't 

631
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,000
want either. 
So, you were actually pretty 

632
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200
chill. 
Like, when they said that, you 

633
00:32:57,208 --> 00:32:59,000
have to have a C-section. 
I looked at you thinking that 

634
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,200
you would be totally broken. 
No, but you were actually 

635
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,200
holding up pretty good at that 
point. 

636
00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:07,600
I think it was like, almost like
an internally new. 

637
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:09,800
Like I knew something was not 
right? 

638
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,400
And I honestly, I thought it was
me. 

639
00:33:12,500 --> 00:33:14,400
I just thought my cervix is not 
opening. 

640
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,100
My body's not responding right, 
like, something's wrong with me 

641
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:21,300
and it really wasn't my body. 
I think my body would have 

642
00:33:21,300 --> 00:33:26,000
responded really well, if he was
pushing the right way and if he 

643
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,200
was pushing the right way, it 
would have opened everything up 

644
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,500
just naturally, as you would, in
a normal. 

645
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,400
Earth. 
So I think I kind of knew 

646
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,700
something was happening. 
That didn't feel right? 

647
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,000
Like it just I was like 
something's happening. 

648
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,100
Whether it's me or it's him or 
something. 

649
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:45,900
This isn't, right? 
And I have even said something 

650
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:47,600
earlier. 
If we have to have a C-section, 

651
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,900
make sure they do this this this
and this and Roberts. 

652
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:53,800
Like we're not going to have to 
have a C-section on like we 

653
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,900
might have to like we are in the
hospital. 

654
00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:58,000
There's a reason that we are 
here. 

655
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,400
I don't know the reason but 
there's a reason we're here. 

656
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,100
And if I have to like, this is 
what we need to do. 

657
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,800
So, I think when that moment 
came I looked at you and I was 

658
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,600
like, do you realize like this 
is what we have to do? 

659
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,400
Like, there's no other option. 
You're like, yep, like there's 

660
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,100
no other option. 
So at that moment, it was just 

661
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:17,600
like all the power was taken 
away from me. 

662
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,500
I feel and I just had to give in
and just say, okay, and I have 

663
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:25,900
to, I mean, say you're pretty 
impressive throughout that 

664
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:29,100
because I got that point, like 
I'm almost mad. 

665
00:34:29,199 --> 00:34:34,600
Like I'm a little and because 
it's like, This isn't fair. 

666
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:37,000
And I know like in saying this 
and even I knew it the moment 

667
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,699
you like. 
I'm trying to be very stoked all

668
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:39,900
this stuff. 
But like in that moment you 

669
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:41,100
allow yourself to be a little 
bit mad. 

670
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:45,199
You like, look this is not fair.
Like we did all the right 

671
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:46,600
things. 
We had all the right. 

672
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:48,199
We did everything. 
We did everything. 

673
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:52,900
And this is happening to us. 
And then you were taking the 

674
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:57,000
approach of like, look, this is 
why we're in the hospital and 

675
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,100
not at home. 
Because we had this weird crazy 

676
00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:02,300
fluke situation, and this is 
just what has to happen for the 

677
00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:06,500
safety of Everybody. 
So you were you're pretty strong

678
00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:08,600
at that moment. 
And at that point that is 

679
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,400
exactly what I said. 
I was like, this is why we're 

680
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,300
here. 
Yeah, like because I knew as 

681
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,600
soon as I knew that we had to go
to the hospital. 

682
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,200
I told robbers like there's a 
reason. 

683
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:21,100
There's a reason that this has 
to be the way it is. 

684
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,300
And whatever that reason is. 
I don't quite understand right 

685
00:35:24,300 --> 00:35:26,800
now, but then when they told us 
that I was like, this is the 

686
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,700
reason this is a reason we are 
here and to make sure our son 

687
00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:32,300
gets here safely, you know, 
yeah. 

688
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,600
So from that point, it was just 
super fast like crazy fast. 

689
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,200
They come in, they they have, 
they introduced to the 

690
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,800
anesthesiologist. 
You meet her. 

691
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:49,600
They bring some other nurse Tech
in, he gives you a nausea drinks

692
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,100
that you don't have nausea 
throughout the surgery. 

693
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,100
They check your vitals one more 
time. 

694
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,200
They tell me what's up, and it 
was like, before this happened. 

695
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,000
I told the doctor. 
I'm like, hey, man, I To be as 

696
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,400
involved as possible. 
Like, I want to be pulling the 

697
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,600
baby out. 
I want to be delivered. 

698
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:09,300
I want to do everything, and he 
was totally on board for. 

699
00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,400
So I got appreciate that. 
And then when all this changed, 

700
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,200
and obviously, we had to have a 
C-section. 

701
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,600
He's like, look, man, you're not
going to be the one cutting, 

702
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,600
you're not going to be sterile 
enough to pull now. 

703
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:24,000
So, um, but like he tried to let
me like he let me come into the 

704
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,200
operating room, but they 
basically, they give you that 

705
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,300
nausea anti-nausea medication. 
You meet the anesthesiologist. 

706
00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:35,200
We will you out. 
Out into the, the lobby. 

707
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,000
That's where we get separated. 
We have not been separated at 

708
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,900
all up to this point. 
This is now, what day is this? 

709
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,300
It was Wednesday. 
So we got there on Tuesday at 

710
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:46,600
like 5:00. 
Well, we got there Tuesday, like

711
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,500
2:30 2:30, but this is 
Wednesday. 

712
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,600
I like 5:30 p.m. 
Probably. 

713
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,600
Yeah, they take you into the 
operating room to get you 

714
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:58,200
prepped. 
They give you an antibiotic. 

715
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:04,500
They give you a spinal tap. 
You lose all feeling from the 

716
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,400
breast down. 
Basically, at that point. 

717
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,800
They have a separated. 
They leave me in like the main 

718
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,200
room and they gave me some 
scrubs to put on and we're 

719
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000
separated for like 20, 25, 30 
minutes at that point, like 5 

720
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,300
minutes to me. 
But Robert is out there like 

721
00:37:20,300 --> 00:37:23,000
five years for me. 
He's he has about ready to bust 

722
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,100
those doors that I'm like, 
where's my wife? 

723
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:28,200
Where's my kid? 
I'm not separating from, but 

724
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,300
they had to get everything 
situated in the operating room, 

725
00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:32,600
which is why they separated us 
they gave me. 

726
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,900
Me that gown and jumpsuit 
basically and then they let me 

727
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:39,500
come in when you are ready to 
go. 

728
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,200
And then that was just a whole 
weird thing. 

729
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,400
Like that whole like the actual 
surgery. 

730
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:48,800
I was there. 
I saw the whole thing. 

731
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,300
I'm looking at them, making the 
incisions. 

732
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:55,800
I'm looking at them. 
Pulling your uterus out of your 

733
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
body. 
You can't feel any of it, but 

734
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,100
you're totally coherent because 
you're only desensitize from the

735
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:03,800
breast down. 
Your heads totally there. 

736
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,300
You're looking at me asking if 
everything's okay. 

737
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:13,200
I'm looking at you. 
Like, you, you seem strangely at

738
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,200
peace and calm with it. 
Um, probably because you're no 

739
00:38:16,207 --> 00:38:18,300
longer having painful 
contractions that point of 

740
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:23,000
drugs, it was weird, but that 
spinal tap. 

741
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,600
It was like immediately, the 
pain went away. 

742
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:30,100
So when we got moved into the 
operating room, I couldn't have 

743
00:38:30,100 --> 00:38:34,100
the Nitric nitrous, whatever you
No, the nitrous oxide through 

744
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,400
yeah, couldn't have that 
anymore. 

745
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,800
And Emma are amazing. 
Nurse was there the whole time. 

746
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,300
Like she literally was like, 
cradling me, like, just like, 

747
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:46,200
holding me rubbing my back. 
I had to go through a lot of 

748
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,700
contractions during that that 
time, and it was just like they 

749
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,700
had a hard time. 
Getting the needle in the right 

750
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:53,900
spot because of all your muscles
in the back. 

751
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:57,500
Yeah, which is crazy. 
And like does nobody have muscle

752
00:38:57,500 --> 00:38:59,200
here. 
How does this work? 

753
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,900
Like, what do you do with like 
grown men, you know, but they 

754
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:04,400
had no comment. 
They aren't given birth, but I'm

755
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,200
sure they've had things that 
make them to where they have to,

756
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:09,900
you know, it's probably time. 
I don't know. 

757
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,900
Yeah, I don't know. 
But yeah, that and I could feel 

758
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,400
it when they were sticking me 
like I could feel it. 

759
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,800
And then at one point they like 
hit a little bit of a nerve and 

760
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,300
I'm just like, I'm gonna go 
crazy. 

761
00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,900
And then every time I had a 
contraction, they had to stop 

762
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,100
because I was Contracting and 
everything was tightening up. 

763
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:32,100
Yeah, so that was awful. 
Yeah, but yeah, they finally let

764
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,400
me in the room. 
Umm, you're totally desensitized

765
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:38,000
and that point, it's like, okay.
I have to be the advocate. 

766
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,300
I have to make sure everything's
getting done properly. 

767
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:42,600
Nobody's doing anything that we 
didn't want to happen. 

768
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,400
Which was super stressful 
because I'm paying attention to 

769
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,400
your face and pay attention to 
your incision. 

770
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:54,100
I'm paying attention to rigel 
and painted all the nurses and 

771
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:57,800
the doctors in the room and 
they're all over the place and 

772
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,600
it's all happening like 
instantly. 

773
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,600
So I'm getting like super worked
up like Make sure everything's 

774
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:10,700
going according to plan and I'm 
holding your hand looking at 

775
00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:15,200
them, cutting you open, and then
trying to comfort you. 

776
00:40:15,700 --> 00:40:18,100
And then they pull rigel out. 
But they're having a hard time 

777
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:21,200
pullraju out because of his 
weird positioning, so they have 

778
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,800
to use a vacuum on his head and 
the doctors telling me this 

779
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:25,900
like, hey, you gotta use a 
vacuum. 

780
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:28,000
I'm like, don't ever think it's 
a good thing. 

781
00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:30,800
You know, he's like, it's all 
good when I got to use that much

782
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,600
pressure or much suck. 
And because it's just the way it

783
00:40:33,607 --> 00:40:37,400
is, heads turned, so they 
vacuumed his head with his 

784
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,200
little suction cup. 
Things only a vacuum. 

785
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,600
It's like a suction cup. 
I don't know why they call it a 

786
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,200
vacuum, but then they pull them 
out with this little vacuum 

787
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,600
thing, suction cup thing. 
And then he just starts crying. 

788
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,000
And then that was, that was a 
weird moment like the moment you

789
00:40:51,008 --> 00:40:55,200
and I heard him cry. 
We're looking at each other and 

790
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,500
I think we both went like 
teary-eyed at the same time. 

791
00:40:57,500 --> 00:40:59,900
You just yeah, it was pretty 
emotional. 

792
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:05,000
Then they take him. 
Over to this like warming table 

793
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,800
and they start patting him down,
but we didn't want them to Pat 

794
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,500
him down too much because he 
wanted to leave some of that 

795
00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:14,000
vernix on them. 
So I'm trying to make sure not 

796
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,600
doing too, much of their give 
him any drugs. 

797
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,100
We don't want any type, then try
to make sure you're okay. 

798
00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:19,500
Try, make sure they're stitching
you up properly. 

799
00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:21,600
So I walk over there. 
They clamp the cord after 

800
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,800
enough. 
Time has passed. 

801
00:41:22,900 --> 00:41:25,700
I cut the cord. 
They did wait for the cord to 

802
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:27,400
stop posting. 
Yeah. 

803
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,700
I went like a minute. 
Then I cut the cord. 

804
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,400
And then I grab him bring him 
over to you. 

805
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:37,800
Are they grab him? 
Bring them over to you. 

806
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,600
And let me share they put them 
on your neck. 

807
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,900
So now we're all three there 
together on one side of the 

808
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:47,600
blanket and I'm like hugging you
all but then also kind of 

809
00:41:47,607 --> 00:41:49,300
peeking over to make sure 
they're getting used to each 

810
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:50,900
time. 
The doctor says he's having a 

811
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:52,900
hard time getting the blood to 
stop flowing. 

812
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,100
So he's holding pressure on you.
Stitching you up that whole 

813
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,600
thing takes a while. 
Yeah, and this time I'm like, 

814
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,800
I'm not Still bleeding. 
Yeah, what does that happen? 

815
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,500
You know, I'm just looking at 
Robert and like I said 

816
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,600
everything. 
Okay, and I'm also like in this 

817
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,000
moment with him like oh my gosh.
I have the baby on my chest. 

818
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:13,600
Yeah. 
It was. 

819
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,300
Well, yeah, we did have a pretty
good knocked it down. 

820
00:42:16,300 --> 00:42:18,600
Like he was pretty chill before 
he. 

821
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:21,100
Like, when he came in to get me 
to say, you can come in now. 

822
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:23,100
He said, hey man, don't worry 
about it. 

823
00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,100
I watch the Youtube video before
hand. 

824
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:27,500
So we're all good. 
So that was thinking, super 

825
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:29,900
comforting. 
You know, he was just joking 

826
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:32,100
them, but the whole time they 
were cutting you open. 

827
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:37,200
He Talking about his waterskiing
adventures this past weekend. 

828
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,700
So I feel like if he's talking 
about that. 

829
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,700
He's probably pretty relaxed. 
I could not hear any of that. 

830
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:45,800
So, I'm so glad I couldn't. 
Otherwise, I'd be like, shut up.

831
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,000
I'm having a baby here. 
Yeah, but yeah, it was total 

832
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,600
chaos. 
And then, after after that, what

833
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:54,400
happened? 
Next? 

834
00:42:55,500 --> 00:43:00,200
We take, you back to the room. 
We have rigel our side. 

835
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,900
He's not, I don't think. 
After side, nope, at all. 

836
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,000
He's not left her side. 
So from the moment, he's been 

837
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,700
pulled out of you until now we 
have not lost sight of him. 

838
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:15,300
I think it's back to room. 
You're recovering slowly. 

839
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,500
Getting feeling back in your 
toes and whatnot. 

840
00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:20,400
We're I'm holding rajul. 
You're holding Roger. 

841
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,900
We're doing. 
Skin-to-skin making sure he's 

842
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:25,600
trying to nurse. 
He's able to nurse pretty quick.

843
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,400
Oh, you guys look a. 
This is like one of the best 

844
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:28,800
parts. 
I was so proud of this moment. 

845
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,700
So they put him right after he 
was. 

846
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,200
You know, born they put him on 
my chest and he literally 

847
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:41,900
started like routing routing 
around and found my nipple and 

848
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:44,700
that wanted to start 
breastfeeding they can within 

849
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,500
yeah. 
Within like this second that 

850
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:48,400
they put him down. 
He was like, rooting around 

851
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:54,400
trying to find it and it was 
like, This is so natural, you 

852
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,500
know, like such a natural human 
instinct. 

853
00:43:57,500 --> 00:44:01,800
That like, literally immediately
was put on his mom and new. 

854
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,300
Oh, I need to start looking for 
food, you know, it was just so 

855
00:44:05,300 --> 00:44:06,900
cool. 
And that was comforting because 

856
00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,800
one of the main reasons we 
didn't want to go the route of 

857
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,900
the Epi Durham is because the 
epidural goes to the fetus and 

858
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:16,100
goes to the baby. 
And oftentimes, the babies are 

859
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,800
much less attentive after birth,
and they don't really have as 

860
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,000
much of a connection. 
You lie after birth, with that 

861
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,400
skin to skin contact. 
So the fact that he was 

862
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,800
instantly rooting around, 
totally attentive, totally 

863
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,900
wide-eyed and looking for your 
nipple, kind of gave us some 

864
00:44:32,900 --> 00:44:35,400
comfort knowing that he's, he's 
good. 

865
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:37,100
Yeah, he wouldn't drugged up at 
all. 

866
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,000
So then, yeah, we get back to 
the room start. 

867
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,700
Coming back to our senses, 
holding Raja having skin to skin

868
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:47,000
contact and just totally, you 
know, in all about the whole 

869
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,300
situation. 
Yep. 

870
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,500
It's pretty well hours passed 
and we finally called RV. 

871
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:53,700
Families. 
Yeah, call them. 

872
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,500
Let them know that all is well. 
They didn't know we were having 

873
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:59,800
a c-section when we went in 
because we just don't have time.

874
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,100
Like they knew her in the 
hospital, but they had no idea 

875
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,300
that that was all happening. 
So they were just kind of like 

876
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:08,500
waiting around for us to like 
Update him. 

877
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:11,500
Yeah, and then yeah, it was that
evening. 

878
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:17,700
We told them. 
Yeah, he was born at 6:15 on May

879
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:26,200
18th, and he weighed 8 pounds, 
14 ounces and that is Robert 

880
00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:30,900
rigel Sykes. 
And now we got discharged on 

881
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:32,700
Friday morning, Friday 
afternoon. 

882
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:37,200
So, we basically, they're from 
early Tuesday afternoon until 

883
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:39,500
Friday afternoon. 
So pretty much all week. 

884
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,500
Haven't slept still haven't 
slept hardly at all. 

885
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,800
But now we have him at home. 
He is breastfeeding like a 

886
00:45:47,808 --> 00:45:49,300
champ. 
He's pooping like a champ. 

887
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:51,000
I'm diaper-changing like a 
champ. 

888
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,400
You're feeling pretty good and 
recovering, pretty good. 

889
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:57,900
You're able to get up and in and
out of bed and out of the 

890
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,300
vehicle that too much issue. 
Yeah. 

891
00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:05,300
I'm sure we'll talk about this 
on the next podcast, but the 

892
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:08,300
whole recovery from a C-section 
is a lot different than you 

893
00:46:08,300 --> 00:46:12,800
expect from a vaginal delivery. 
So I just feel like my whole 

894
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,900
world had been like completely 
rocked and I just hadn't really 

895
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:22,600
mad now so we don't know, we 
didn't share that. 

896
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:27,500
We had have a C-section really 
previously, other than Robert, 

897
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,600
put it in his newsletter, but I 
think it was like a weird. 

898
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,100
Super personal thing to me like 
the fact that everything had 

899
00:46:38,100 --> 00:46:44,100
changed and I was having a hard 
time like processing it, I think

900
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,900
and I still get really 
emotional. 

901
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:48,400
I'm so glad I made it through 
this whole podcast without tears

902
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,900
falling down my face. 
I'm surprised I know me too, but

903
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,500
I've been I mean, I've been on 
and off crying and it's not the 

904
00:46:54,500 --> 00:46:58,200
fact that I'm like, so sad that 
we gave I gave birth to him that

905
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:03,100
way. 
It's like I sad. 

906
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,200
I didn't get what I wanted in in
the state of Arkansas. 

907
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,200
It's illegal. 
I say illegal that seems like a 

908
00:47:10,207 --> 00:47:13,100
strong word, but you're not 
allowed to have a home birth 

909
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:16,600
after you've had a C-section. 
So that's like a vbac. 

910
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,500
It's vaginal birth. 
After cesarean. 

911
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,100
You're not allowed to have a 
home birth after having a 

912
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:26,500
cesarean. 
So it was like, instantly 

913
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:29,500
everything that I had wanted was
stripped from me. 

914
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:33,100
Not just with this, not what 
just with his birth but with 

915
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,600
Like potential future children 
and things like that. 

916
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:41,500
So it was just like it's been a 
lot to process and I just I 

917
00:47:41,508 --> 00:47:45,200
don't think I was like ready to 
share and then we have our like,

918
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:49,200
a vlog Style video that we did 
at the hospital and I was like, 

919
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,800
I don't want to put that out 
because I feel too emotional 

920
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,100
about the situation that like, I
don't think people will capture 

921
00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:07,700
how stressful and anxious and 
like, Internal family unit. 

922
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,100
I don't know just like how it 
is. 

923
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:13,000
Such a personal thing that you 
go through that, like all of the

924
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,200
emotions that we went through. 
I just didn't want them to be 

925
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:18,300
pushed aside. 
Like, oh, that sucks, that they 

926
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:21,000
had to have a C-section. 
Oh, well, you know, it was just 

927
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:25,200
like this was a huge thing in my
life and I didn't want to just 

928
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,300
put it out there in the world, 
like, willy nilly. 

929
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:29,200
So we thought we'd do the 
podcast. 

930
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,800
Kind of like, Just do a review 
over overview on all of it. 

931
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:38,500
Yeah, and now, I mean, the in 
the day, we feel very blessed. 

932
00:48:38,500 --> 00:48:40,700
Very fortunately, we have a 
happy healthy rigel happy 

933
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:45,000
healthy. 
Crystal rigel is is he was 

934
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,300
breastfeeding now, he's just 
sleeping. 

935
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,600
Looks like can you hold him up 
for the video? 

936
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:49,900
Like for people that are on the 
video. 

937
00:48:49,900 --> 00:48:53,800
Maybe we can like have him speak
into the mic, little bit speak. 

938
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,700
I'm just I'm really good. 
Just like sleep in them seem 

939
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:00,300
like totally own. 
Yeah. 

940
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:03,900
Lee totally conked out. 
Can we see that over there? 

941
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,100
I get those cheeks. 
Yeah, he's pretty much the 

942
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:14,400
greatest thing on the planet. 
We cannot get enough of him. 

943
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:17,000
We just keep saying. 
Oh my gosh, he's just so cute. 

944
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,000
He's just so perfect. 
Like this lip. 

945
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,000
It's weird because like before 
you have a Kim and we just had a

946
00:49:22,008 --> 00:49:25,200
kid's life like this fresh Mount
before you have a kid everywhere

947
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,700
that does have a kid. 
They're always talking about 

948
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:30,000
their kid. 
They like, oh my gosh. 

949
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:32,200
Shut up. 
About your kid, other send you 

950
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,000
pictures of the kid. 
Like, I don't want to see more 

951
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,200
kid pictures. 
It's just like, you get 

952
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,900
irritated with other people's 
kids, you know, Ad nauseam. 

953
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,200
And then you have a kid, might 
be an extreme over here. 

954
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:46,000
And then you have a kid and 
you're like, you can't stop 

955
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,000
looking at him. 
Like I literally spend all day 

956
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,200
looking at him and he's just the
cutest thing ever. 

957
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,200
Like he's the future of the 
Sykes name and you think about 

958
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,000
how you want to be as a father. 
You think about how you want to 

959
00:49:59,008 --> 00:50:00,500
be as a mother? 
You think about how you want to 

960
00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:06,500
Them and you just you didn't 
even know how to put into words.

961
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,100
The emotions that you have 
towards this little tiny human 

962
00:50:10,100 --> 00:50:14,800
being that you made with your 
wife. 

963
00:50:15,900 --> 00:50:18,800
It's just this is weird. 
It's just crazy. 

964
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:22,900
You know, it's pretty crazy. 
It is it like I don't even I 

965
00:50:22,900 --> 00:50:24,600
don't have words. 
I just like a miracle or 

966
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,200
something. 
Yeah, it's pretty wild. 

967
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,000
Have sex in this little human 
pops out. 

968
00:50:30,100 --> 00:50:31,300
You know, it's like how does 
that happen? 

969
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:37,500
But he's perfect. 
He's perfect in every way. 

970
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,200
We're excited about him. 
And yeah, as sad as I am that, I

971
00:50:41,207 --> 00:50:45,500
didn't get what I wanted as far 
as like the birth ever. 

972
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:49,900
Aang. 
I feel like there's a huge 

973
00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:53,100
lesson to be learned in all of 
this and I don't know that I 

974
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:59,600
fully captured what that is, but
there is a lesson and I love it.

975
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,800
And I and we both know that like
we both are able to like take a 

976
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,600
step back and say like this was 
supposed to be our story and I 

977
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,400
think that was the hardest part.
Like when we talk to Anna and 

978
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,700
knew that we had to go to the 
hospital. 

979
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:16,500
I was like she was like, I know 
that this is not what you want. 

980
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,400
And I know that like this goes 
against Thing and I was like, 

981
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,900
well, that's just like not our 
story. 

982
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,800
Like, that's not my story. 
It's not rigel story. 

983
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,800
And feel like there's peace 
though in knowing that like, it 

984
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,300
wasn't like we had, you know, 
taking a few shortcuts. 

985
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:34,800
And this is what happened. 
Like, we literally did 

986
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,300
everything. 
You literally did everything 

987
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:39,800
that you could possibly do. 
I mean, you tracked, your 

988
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,800
Macros, you track your intake, 
track your food, you track your 

989
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,700
training. 
You tried everything, stayed, 

990
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:48,100
active hiking, all moving, 
stretching, doing mobility 

991
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:51,100
stuff. 
Like the prenatals like anything

992
00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:55,300
that a female can do to set 
their child up for the utmost 

993
00:51:55,300 --> 00:51:59,300
success possible you did. 
So the fact that this happened, 

994
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,100
I mean no no dietary 
intervention. 

995
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,600
No movement. 
Intervention could have changed 

996
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:08,100
the way his face was positioned.
The way it was hospitalized. 

997
00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:10,100
You have the hospital. 
They had me trying different 

998
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:12,400
positions and it was like, he 
just kept moving in the wrong 

999
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:13,700
direction. 
Yeah. 

1000
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,400
We're just not meant to be. 
Yeah, but he's here now. 

1001
00:52:17,700 --> 00:52:18,600
He's happy. 
He's home. 

1002
00:52:18,700 --> 00:52:21,000
It is checkup today at the 
doctors and everything's going 

1003
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,800
good. 
Yeah, he's already back up to 

1004
00:52:24,808 --> 00:52:29,300
his birth weight, six days later
and yeah, rocking it rocking 

1005
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:30,900
this thing. 
He's sleeping good. 

1006
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:34,200
He's pooping good. 
He's doing everything good. 

1007
00:52:35,300 --> 00:52:36,900
So we feel very blessed, for 
sure. 

1008
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,100
Yeah, we're gonna go to go stare
at them. 

1009
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,300
Now. 
I'm gonna go stare at him now. 

1010
00:52:42,300 --> 00:52:46,400
So y'all take care. 
We've done many of these but 

1011
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:47,800
we're people go to find out more
about you. 

1012
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:54,100
Chris on Instagram is the adult 
lady dot Savage website is Lady 

1013
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:57,800
Savage.com. 
I also have a private Facebook 

1014
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:03,800
group for women only and yeah, 
and we have. 

1015
00:53:04,100 --> 00:53:07,600
So I've got the keto, Savage, 
Instagram and website. 

1016
00:53:08,300 --> 00:53:11,800
We have the live savage, 
Instagram that I had made as a 

1017
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,800
backup when I lost my Instagram 
key. 

1018
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,800
Savage, but now that I've got 
keto Savage back, we're going to

1019
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:22,100
make live savage and dedicated 
brand as well and it's going to 

1020
00:53:22,100 --> 00:53:24,400
be more. 
So about like the homesteading, 

1021
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:28,000
the parenting like just 
lifestyle type stuff. 

1022
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,500
Trying to not blow you guys up 
with baby stuff on our personal 

1023
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,100
Pages, you know, keep it Fitness
Nutrition. 

1024
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,300
Yeah. 
Also family-oriented, but we 

1025
00:53:36,300 --> 00:53:38,500
would like, to live savage to be
more. 

1026
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,500
Yeah. 
So if you want more of that 

1027
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:44,000
stock content, definitely check 
out the live savage, Instagram, 

1028
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,600
because we'll all I'll update 
the current posts on there, like

1029
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,500
will get that more revamped. 
That's where all that stuff is 

1030
00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:53,200
going to be going, but we just 
want to say thank you for all of

1031
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,200
y'all that tuned in and like 
gave us like we have received an

1032
00:53:57,500 --> 00:54:01,800
overwhelming amount of positive 
support, emails, messages, phone

1033
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:05,000
calls, text DMS, everything like
y'all have been with us 

1034
00:54:05,008 --> 00:54:08,500
throughout this whole journey 
and we truly can't. 

1035
00:54:08,500 --> 00:54:12,000
Thank you enough. 
Even though the the journey took

1036
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:17,000
a Twist, took a turn, we I have 
arrived at the final destination

1037
00:54:17,300 --> 00:54:19,400
in the same destination that we 
had always wanted which was to 

1038
00:54:19,408 --> 00:54:21,600
have happy healthy range of a 
happy healthy Crystal. 

1039
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:23,900
So we're happy. 
We're blessed were fortunate. 

1040
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:26,100
We thank you all for tuning in 
and being part of this journey. 

1041
00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:29,300
And we're excited about this 
next chapter in our lives. 

1042
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,800
That's All She Wrote. 
You got anything else babe? 

1043
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,200
Just thank you guys all for 
supporting us and loving us and 

1044
00:54:38,300 --> 00:54:40,800
All the things. 
We always feel so blessed. 

1045
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:45,300
Any Deep Thoughts, fragile. 
No, he's still sleeping. 

1046
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:47,100
He's over here. 
All right. 

1047
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,300
Well, I'm gonna tune out. 
Probably go change the diaper 

1048
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:51,200
right now. 
So I will talk to y'all next 

1049
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,200
time. 
Love, y'all and tata for now.