1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,700 Well, hello, ladies and gents Robert Sykes Quito Savage.com. 2 00:00:02,700 --> 00:00:05,400 Today I'm get special repeat guests in good friend. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,800 Robin Switzer on the podcast. She is the brains behind Quito 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:12,700 con, queso con is just a few months away in April, so I 5 00:00:12,707 --> 00:00:15,400 wanted to bring it on the podcast to dive into some of the 6 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,400 exciting things ahead. As it relates to, at the 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,300 conference, we get some new vendors coming. 8 00:00:20,300 --> 00:00:23,000 We got some new speakers coming. We got all kinds of new things 9 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,500 coming. She is a extraordinary when it 10 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:27,000 comes to throwing this conference. 11 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:29,800 I'm super excited about it. I'll be speaking on Sunday. 12 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,000 And it's going to be great. We're going to have a booth, 13 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:35,100 there's going to be lots of boots there, so definitely want 14 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:37,500 to just bring it on the podcast and do a deep dive into Kita 15 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:39,200 akan. We also talked a little bit 16 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:42,600 about her backstory, what got her into Quito space? 17 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:45,600 Following this lifestyle, what she's excited about going 18 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,900 forward as it pertains to the keto Community as a whole. 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:53,800 And we do have quite a bit into business and mindset from the 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,600 perspective of a conference promoter. 21 00:00:55,900 --> 00:00:57,200 And I also just general business. 22 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,500 So thoroughly enjoyed the conversation, always a pleasure 23 00:00:59,500 --> 00:01:00,400 chatting. Robin. 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:02,900 I've got no doubt that you will take something from this so that 25 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:06,200 for their do sit back, relax and do a conversation with Robin 26 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:19,000 Switzer. And we are live Robin, how are 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,100 you? I'm great. 28 00:01:20,100 --> 00:01:21,700 How are you? I'm wonderfully. 29 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:24,300 Well, as well. So you have been on the podcast. 30 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:28,900 I think you've been on the podcast every year prior to 31 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,200 Quito con. I think the time that 32 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,900 strategically like that, but we get you to talk about the 33 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:38,900 amazing conference that is Quito Khan, and we get some, we got 34 00:01:38,900 --> 00:01:41,500 some new things coming this year with, you do con like it's a new 35 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:43,800 tie. Time, same location but lots of 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,000 new things new festivities. Let's just, let's just start off 37 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,700 with a bang. We'll just dive into Quito con 38 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:51,400 for a second and then we'll just go off on tangents. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,200 Okay, you want to hear what's new aikidoka on this year? 40 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:57,500 Yeah, lay it on me. What's new? 41 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:03,400 So there's several things that are new one is that we're going 42 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,300 to be doing a cold plunge experience. 43 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:10,500 Nice. So we have a company coming in 44 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:18,000 bringing in the tubs and the ice water and the ice and you'll be 45 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,400 able to if you have the appropriate clothing with you, 46 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,800 which we will hopefully be able to have enough time to warn 47 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:29,000 everybody to bring to do a cold Plunge. 48 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,100 And so I'm really, really excited about that. 49 00:02:32,100 --> 00:02:34,000 It's something that I've wanted to bring to the event for a 50 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:38,600 while and we just had such a hard time finding a company that 51 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:42,500 could afford to do it, that could bring the equipment. 52 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:45,700 Just the equipment alone in the setup is expensive. 53 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:47,400 Endeavor. Have you ever done it before? 54 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,500 And that's, I beg your pardon. Have you ever done a cool planet 55 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:55,200 before I have? And it's one of my favorite 56 00:02:55,900 --> 00:02:58,600 packs. One of my favorite tools and 57 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,200 even if I didn't know how great it was for me, I'd probably do 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,500 it anyway. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 59 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:07,300 I was going to do it Chris. And I've been doing it for 60 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:09,800 probably about two months like every single day now 61 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,300 consistently. Uh-huh. 62 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:13,300 We love it. Like, it's what? 63 00:03:13,300 --> 00:03:15,300 I mean, there's all this supposed health benefits, like, 64 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:18,700 you know, increase Brown fat improve metabolism. 65 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:22,500 You know, all that good stuff, but even if none of that was 66 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:24,600 true, I would still do it. Just for like the, the mental 67 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,200 benefit that comes with doing that first thing in the morning. 68 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,800 It's just amazing. I agree. 69 00:03:30,100 --> 00:03:33,200 I really enjoy it. I've also done cryotherapy which 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:37,600 I really enjoyed to, but I like the cold plunge better. 71 00:03:38,300 --> 00:03:42,300 First of all, it's just less expensive and and also because 72 00:03:42,300 --> 00:03:45,000 you can do it at home as opposed to having to go somewhere and 73 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:50,100 stand in a cryotherapy chamber. So yeah, I really enjoyed it. 74 00:03:50,100 --> 00:03:52,100 So that's one thing that is new this year. 75 00:03:52,700 --> 00:03:56,200 Another thing that's new this year is Saint experience. 76 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:59,300 So we have a couple of different Frank companies that are 77 00:03:59,300 --> 00:04:03,000 bringing saunas to the event and not that anyone's going to sit 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 in a sauna for 10 minutes during a conference but they'll have an 79 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,100 opportunity to, you know, test it out for a minute, see what it 80 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:13,400 feels like, one of them actually has the red light therapy as 81 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:18,700 part of the sauna inside of it. And so people will be able to do 82 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:20,899 that as well. Cool, very cool. 83 00:04:20,899 --> 00:04:24,000 And then so there's red light, there's sauna there's cold 84 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,700 plunge and then body spec will be back again this year with do 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,900 Double the amount of fans that they brought last year. 86 00:04:30,900 --> 00:04:36,200 So they'll be doing dexa scans, all day, Friday, Saturday, and 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,500 Sunday. I was looking at their 88 00:04:37,500 --> 00:04:42,200 reservation site, they're doing like 60, 60 a day. 89 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:48,000 I think each day maybe it was 75 but I sent out an email earlier 90 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:49,700 this week letting everybody know. 91 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:54,100 And gosh, I saw probably 100 reservations made right off the 92 00:04:54,100 --> 00:05:02,100 bat so they do it for a Youkilis lead discounted price and so I 93 00:05:02,100 --> 00:05:05,300 really I like bringing that kind of experiential stuff to the 94 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:08,900 event. I think it just adds an element 95 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:15,000 of fun and it keeps people interested in other things other 96 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:17,700 than you know, what's going on on the various stages and so 97 00:05:17,700 --> 00:05:19,400 forth. So yeah, I'm really excited 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,100 about that. Yeah, no, that's awesome. 99 00:05:21,100 --> 00:05:24,000 I feel like Kevin, you know, new vendors, they're having, you 100 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,600 know, some of the same vendors in the new faces, just be able 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,100 to kind of expose people to New things is great, especially 102 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:32,700 like, in the packing space because people just want to see 103 00:05:32,700 --> 00:05:35,800 these things experienced them firsthand, like everybody hears 104 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,300 about the benefits of sauna, but like, there's not really a mini 105 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:42,300 opportunities where you can just go sit in a sauna and not pay 106 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,200 for it just to see if he would write to pay for it, you know. 107 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:47,900 So that's pretty cool. Yeah, exactly. 108 00:05:48,300 --> 00:05:52,500 You know, it's interesting this Kyoko is changing and I guess 109 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:57,000 it's it's kind of like a natural progression. 110 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:02,300 Where we were once all about only about the ketogenic diet, 111 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:07,000 which is still the underlying theme of the event, the value of 112 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,300 utilizing ketosis to improve your health, but the I'm seeing 113 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:16,800 a lot of interest from companies outside of like the keto food 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,300 product space. So if you look at our website 115 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:23,100 you'll see we've got about 70 companies signed up so far this 116 00:06:23,100 --> 00:06:27,400 year and more than half of them are not food. 117 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:32,200 Chuck's. So that part is super 118 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,700 interesting to me to see how the evolution of the event happens. 119 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:39,300 It's something I've always wanted to do and I really didn't 120 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:44,100 know how to move from like one Focus to another but thankfully 121 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:50,600 it's happening on its own. So, the those there's a lot of 122 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,400 conversation happening at the event, about the research and 123 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:57,600 the evolution of the ketogenic diet. 124 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,100 In, you know, in the consumer if you will space or just everyday 125 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:06,400 people who are utilizing utilizing that protocol to 126 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:12,300 improve their health, but the we've got a pretty strong 127 00:07:12,300 --> 00:07:18,000 carnivore influence this year too because there's just so much 128 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,400 happening in that space and so many people are utilizing that 129 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,000 protocol to improve their health. 130 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:28,500 They're not necessarily focusing on, am I in ketosis, but They 131 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:32,500 are focusing on whole food and improving the metabolic health. 132 00:07:32,900 --> 00:07:39,800 And Healing a lot of problems that were related to poor 133 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,000 metabolic health. So I'm interested to see how the 134 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,500 community responds to that as well. 135 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,600 And I'm just really excited about all the different topics 136 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,200 that the new speakers are bringing to the table. 137 00:07:53,700 --> 00:07:56,100 It's going to be a different event this year than we've had 138 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:59,200 in the past, for sure. And I feel like it's cool 139 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,600 though. That it's all like it's new, 140 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:05,200 it's evolving but it's still very Minutes to roots. 141 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,500 And like, if there's a balance to be played with that because 142 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:11,800 like, you see some people, some brand, some companies, they try 143 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,800 and evolve so rapidly that they just dissolve. 144 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:20,200 And then you see, a lot of people, I don't know II, 145 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:24,700 appreciate consistency, probably Above All Else, and you've 146 00:08:24,700 --> 00:08:29,400 maintained the same Aura of what Kita akan is and always has 147 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,500 been, but you're willing to bring on new ideas. 148 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:36,200 New philosophies new Oh, Ducks new companies and I think that 149 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,200 is great. Well, thank you, I've been so 150 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,900 blessed, Robert. I mean I this is exactly what I 151 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:48,800 wanted to happen with the event, but there's no way I really 152 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:52,800 could have forced it. It did happen, it's kind of like 153 00:08:54,400 --> 00:09:00,600 organic, it organically happened and, and I'm really excited 154 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,800 about it. And I'm very grateful because 155 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,800 the being the I love doing what I do and I love producing this 156 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:15,500 event and I that I get a lot of satisfaction out of knowing that 157 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,800 I'm helping other people especially at this point in my 158 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,300 life. I want to feel like I'm making a 159 00:09:21,308 --> 00:09:26,300 difference and when I can bring so much to the table, I feel 160 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:28,800 like I'm helping other people exposing people to things, they 161 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,000 may not know about or have learned about or have 162 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,100 experienced anywhere else. Yeah. 163 00:09:34,300 --> 00:09:38,400 Yeah, and kids, Kita akan the first kilcommons 2017, right? 164 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:40,400 Yeah. Finn 17. 165 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:45,700 So since 2017, there's been all kinds of ups and downs in the 166 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:48,900 conference space but in specific to Quito Khan as a conference 167 00:09:50,100 --> 00:09:56,000 and you I'd love to just kind of like here the evolution of Quito 168 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,700 con from Robins perspective because you know like you and I 169 00:10:00,708 --> 00:10:04,200 know each other, we've stayed in contact Threat all these this. 170 00:10:04,300 --> 00:10:06,400 It's like, I feel like I've got a pretty good handle on it, but 171 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,500 I feel like a lot of people don't and I feel like they hear 172 00:10:10,500 --> 00:10:12,500 of Quito called the hear about how great it is. 173 00:10:12,700 --> 00:10:15,000 They either go or they don't go and it just kind of like 174 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,100 conference to them, but like, I'm passionate about keto calm. 175 00:10:18,100 --> 00:10:22,200 Because I've seen it, you know, go through all these highs and 176 00:10:22,208 --> 00:10:23,500 low. So could you kind of just peel 177 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:26,300 the curtain back on that as both the promoter? 178 00:10:26,500 --> 00:10:31,500 But then also just like like the the person behind it on you've 179 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:33,900 had people behind you and helping you for sure but like 180 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:38,100 just Just from your perspective, what has that Journey look like, 181 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:41,500 it's been painful to tell you the truth. 182 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,600 Well, when we first started in 2017, when I was working for 183 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:51,200 Brian, when it was, it was, hey, let's put together an event 184 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:55,400 where we can get all these people that are in all of these 185 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,600 Facebook groups that we have. And let's get everybody together 186 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,800 and have a party, and we can have a few speakers, a few 187 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,500 vendors. And to be a safe place for 188 00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:07,800 everybody that Is following a low carb /, ketogenic diet to 189 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:13,700 socialize and learn and evolve and that's really what I mean in 190 00:11:13,700 --> 00:11:23,800 2017 was all about. And then in 2018, it became, 191 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:29,000 wow, people really like this. Let's level up our game. 192 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,700 Let's do a better job of making this a real event for people to 193 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:39,000 come and And experience. So, in 2018, we doubled what we 194 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,300 did in 2017. And then 2019, we doubled again, 195 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:51,000 and that was kind of like, We had to get more help because I 196 00:11:51,008 --> 00:11:53,900 couldn't do it all by myself anymore in 2019. 197 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:56,300 So that's when we brought Ryan on board to help with the 198 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:59,800 exhibitor sales. So I could focus on the 199 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:02,400 production and the orchestration of the event. 200 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,700 And then, of course, covid happened, the following year, 201 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:15,800 and we were planning for 2020 to be of equal size if not greater 202 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:20,500 than what we had in 2009. But in March we had to put the 203 00:12:20,500 --> 00:12:28,600 brakes on because it was just shortly after covid-19 being a 204 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:33,700 thing and it was everywhere on the news, but we were not 205 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:38,500 getting any consistent information from the city of 206 00:12:38,508 --> 00:12:43,400 Austin or the Palmer Event Center on how we were going to 207 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,200 pull off doing a live event and we weren't sure. 208 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,400 How things were going to flow when we finally got some 209 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:55,200 direction from them. It was clear that it would be 210 00:12:55,200 --> 00:13:00,900 impossible to do it. So we postponed you know with 211 00:13:00,900 --> 00:13:03,800 the hopes that we'd be able to do it in 2021 which we all know 212 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:10,500 didn't happen and then we decided that we would postpone 213 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:16,400 again until 2022 and then finally the world started to 214 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,600 turn around again and we realized we'd be able to do the 215 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:25,300 event in 2022. So, I would say that the best 216 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:30,200 part about 2022 was the fact that the people that did come, 217 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,300 we're very, very excited to be there. 218 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,400 The vendors, the speaker's, the attendees. 219 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:45,500 Everyone was just so thrilled to be back at a live event and 220 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:49,400 seeing the people that they had seniors prior, seeing the 221 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:54,700 speakers, Talking to the vendors just coming back together. 222 00:13:54,700 --> 00:13:58,700 If it made me realize that we definitely have built a 223 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:02,300 community that a lot of the people who come to this event, 224 00:14:02,300 --> 00:14:09,900 come back every year. Mmm, so 2022, there were a lot 225 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:11,600 of disappointments. There were a lot of hardships, 226 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,700 we had like 30 companies, about six weeks before the event 227 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:18,000 contact is us. And say, you know, we've got 228 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,900 supply chain issues, we've got staffing issues. 229 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,400 You know what we can't. We are staff, doesn't want to 230 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,700 take the risk of traveling whatever. 231 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:29,400 So we had a lot of companies pull out. 232 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,800 And so I mean in retrospect, the event was not everything, I 233 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:38,100 wanted it to be in 2022 but it showed me that The people who 234 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:40,400 were supporting us and the people who wanted to be part of 235 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:45,900 this, still wanted it and it also showed me that we survived 236 00:14:45,900 --> 00:14:48,900 2020 and 2021. Yeah. 237 00:14:49,500 --> 00:14:52,600 And then it put me in a position where I had to decide. 238 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,400 Okay. We did it. 239 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,400 We survived. Now, what is next for this 240 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,600 event? And so we booked the dates and 241 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,200 started planning again and like I said that the changes the 242 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,700 evolution of this event has happened. 243 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:11,300 Very organically there. I'm sure there are a lot of 244 00:15:11,308 --> 00:15:13,800 things that come into play. Other events that are no longer 245 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:19,100 happening, new companies, with new products companies that have 246 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:25,000 not been in the live event space and to Years, you know, they're 247 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,100 ready to make a move back. The supply chain issues are no 248 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:30,300 longer as significant as they were before. 249 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,000 So a lot of things are happening that have occurred in my favor, 250 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,100 if you will. It just set the stage for us to 251 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:43,500 be successful again. This year, was there a point at 252 00:15:43,500 --> 00:15:49,800 which the idea of just Stopping it all seemed really appealing 253 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:55,800 to you. Oh man, there have been many 254 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:01,700 times where I have been Terrified to do it again. 255 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,200 However, it's never occurred to me to quit. 256 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:16,000 It's never what occurred to me was Transformation or adjustment 257 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,500 to try and be, you know, flexible and how we how we move 258 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:22,900 forward but honestly, it never occurred to me to quit. 259 00:16:22,900 --> 00:16:25,700 It's kind of like it's what I do. 260 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,900 So if I were to just stop doing this, I really don't know what I 261 00:16:29,908 --> 00:16:32,100 would do. I'm not ready to retire. 262 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:37,700 I certainly can't afford to retire, so no, it never occurred 263 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:41,100 to me to stop because this is pretty much your main thing 264 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:42,400 right now. This is It takes up all your 265 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:43,200 time. Yeah. 266 00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:49,100 This is pretty much my life. I mean I also have a product 267 00:16:49,100 --> 00:16:53,800 called ballistic keto which is a powdered MCT oil, that is 268 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,300 flavored and unsweetened that we still sell. 269 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:02,200 But that's I've I haven't done a good job of growing that 270 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:05,400 business line. It is popular with the people 271 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:08,500 who liked it but I have not done a good job with the marketing of 272 00:17:08,500 --> 00:17:12,200 it. We also have a coaching Line, 273 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:16,300 the ketogenic lifestyle coaching and that program has grown and 274 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:19,099 shrunk and grown and shrunk, depending on the time. 275 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:25,099 And then I also have certified ketogenic where I work with food 276 00:17:25,099 --> 00:17:30,700 product manufacturers, and while that hasn't been huge, I I 277 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:34,800 really attribute that mainly to the fact that it's kind of the 278 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,900 Wild West in this space, and you can put a keto label on 279 00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,100 anything. Yeah. 280 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,300 And there. There are few companies that 281 00:17:47,500 --> 00:17:50,300 there are a lot of companies that care about their products, 282 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:54,700 but they're misled about ingredients and then there's a 283 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,800 the big companies with the super Deep Pockets that all they care 284 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,700 about is margins and they do not care about ingredients and those 285 00:18:01,700 --> 00:18:04,100 the ones that slap the keto label all over everything. 286 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,800 I've had a lot of conversations with food product, manufacturers 287 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,100 and I haven't necessarily certified them, but I've given 288 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:13,700 them guide. Was on removing these 289 00:18:13,700 --> 00:18:17,600 problematic ingredients that that they feel are going to 290 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,900 improve their margins but it's certainly not going to help 291 00:18:19,900 --> 00:18:24,300 anybody. So I mean, I guess I'm kind of 292 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:29,200 doing that out of the passion that I have for this protocol 293 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,000 and this way of life and I don't, I'd love to be able to 294 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,600 build that business line, but it's not something that I think 295 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,500 will happen. I think it always be relatively 296 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:40,100 small. So, in answer to your question, 297 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,800 yes, I mean keto. Khan is what I I do all year. 298 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:48,400 I'm always on the lookout for new companies, with new products 299 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:52,000 with, you know, for brands that are bringing value to the space, 300 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:56,500 for speakers and for researchers who are doing interesting 301 00:18:56,900 --> 00:19:01,300 research and, you know, publishing it or sharing their 302 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:08,400 treatment of Patients, you know, using these protocols to improve 303 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,600 people's lives. So this is what I live. 304 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,400 I live this. Yeah, I do. 305 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,800 Yeah. Now I appreciate that. 306 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,400 I feel like there's so many businesses out there and there's 307 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,800 a lot of different ways to build a business on different ways to 308 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:22,900 make money, lot of different ways to lose money. 309 00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:28,300 And I like there's a lot of ways to skin the cat as the saying 310 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:30,700 goes. But it's it's refreshing to talk 311 00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:35,400 with people that are building a business based off of Passion 312 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,400 rather than just simply building a business to make money. 313 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,200 And like, I don't know, like, the people that I've met over 314 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,600 the years that have built a business, bootstrapped it from 315 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,400 the ground up, simply because they're passionate about making 316 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,600 a difference in people's lives like that to me, totally 317 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,500 regardless of the money that they bring, in the sense of 318 00:19:57,508 --> 00:20:01,700 fulfillment that comes with that far outweighs any financial gain 319 00:20:01,700 --> 00:20:04,300 that they get. Yes, I do. 320 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,800 No, like I I don't think I'll ever, you know, be a man. 321 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,700 I don't know who knows where I'll be and as time that, but 322 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:16,000 but I am proud to say that I can confidently, hang my hat and 323 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,800 everything that I've been in business and feel good about the 324 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,800 intentions behind. It, have conducted the business 325 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:25,000 and just what it's been designed to do from the get-go. 326 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,700 And I feel like you can say the same mosquito gone, I would 327 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:33,000 agree. I would agree a lot of what I've 328 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:39,400 done. I've always operated with. 329 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:42,700 I've had a lot of hard conversations mean you and I 330 00:20:42,700 --> 00:20:45,500 have had those conversations after we had to postpone Quito. 331 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:50,900 Con those conversations were probably the hardest thing I've 332 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:56,000 ever done. But I from that experience, I 333 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:05,500 learned that I can do it and I've learned that even when the 334 00:21:05,500 --> 00:21:10,900 person on the other side of the line doesn't like what I have to 335 00:21:10,900 --> 00:21:14,200 say. If I'm operating from a place of 336 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,400 honesty and to try to do the right thing, the best I can that 337 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:22,900 I can put, you know, I can lay my head on my pillow at night 338 00:21:22,900 --> 00:21:27,300 and sleep. So that's, I mean, it sounds so 339 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:30,000 basic, but that's really how I operate. 340 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,500 I'm just trying to do the right thing. 341 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,400 NG all the time admitting it when I've done something wrong 342 00:21:37,700 --> 00:21:43,600 and apologizing and having those tough conversations and I feel 343 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,600 that what the the end result is that people trust me and that 344 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:53,200 means a lot to me. Yeah, yeah I know it sounds so 345 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,400 simple and really is very simple, it's not easy, it's the 346 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,500 farthest thing from Easy more often than not, but this simple 347 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:07,900 Act of just always Is doing the right thing and doing so with 348 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,700 you know while maintaining your integrity and just being 349 00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:14,900 brutally honest and transparent like that, a lot of people don't 350 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:20,100 do that and I feel like the past few years has been a stage for 351 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,700 people to Showcase them. Not doing that. 352 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:25,700 And yeah, I don't know, like it really just makes me appreciate 353 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:30,100 those who are upfront with things very forthright and very 354 00:22:30,100 --> 00:22:33,300 just honest and transparent with how they How they conduct 355 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:36,300 business and I feel like I've never once had a conversation 356 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:40,600 with you with any of your endeavors and hung up the phone 357 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,200 being like, yeah. I don't know about Rob, I don't 358 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,800 know what she's doing this time. This this sounds a little 359 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,100 sketchy. I've never had that that that 360 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:49,100 emotion come over me after talking with you. 361 00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,900 Hmm well thank you. I appreciate that. 362 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:55,000 Yeah. So what else we get some that 363 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,600 the time frame is different for keto con this year too. 364 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,900 Yeah, we'll be in Austin in April this year rather than July 365 00:23:02,900 --> 00:23:05,800 and August, which is going to be a really nice chain and should 366 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,200 because the weather will be beautiful there. 367 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,800 It's probably in the 70s the whole time we're there and in 368 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,900 cooler at night and so I'm excited about that. 369 00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:18,700 We've never been able to get early dates like that. 370 00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:22,600 As a matter of fact, I've been working on booking days for 2024 371 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:30,700 and I'll have to I'll have to move to met in 2024 because I 372 00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:34,400 can't get the April dates again. The Palmer Event Center books up 373 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:39,100 so fast and they won't allow me to book anything more than 18 374 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:43,800 months in advance. So yeah. 375 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,400 But I'm the April dates are going to be awesome. 376 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,900 It's going to be nice outside the, you know, the City of 377 00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:52,300 Austin is a great place to hang out and Adventure. 378 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:56,500 So to be lots of things to do and people won't be so 379 00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:59,200 uncomfortable. It's like when it was in July 380 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,400 112 degrees, Unbelievably brutal. 381 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:06,000 Yeah, no, it's definitely always toasty there. 382 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,800 So, I'm excited about it. Being in April. 383 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:12,400 For sure, what I guess. It's just with Palmer Events 384 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:13,700 centered. It's kind of like, right there 385 00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:16,500 in the heart of Austin. So I feel like the the man for 386 00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:20,700 that place just must be through the roof, it is, and they 387 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,200 aren't, they have a, an Austin Convention Center, but it is 388 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,500 triple the size. So I think that between the two 389 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:32,100 of them, they stay booked up quite a bit and The Palmer 390 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:36,800 Center is small enough to where it's it doesn't it's not 391 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,700 overwhelming like a convention center but large enough to 392 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,700 accommodate it, you know a big group. 393 00:24:41,700 --> 00:24:44,000 Yeah. So and then accommodate all the 394 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,200 different stages and breakout rooms and so I really really 395 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:55,300 like that venue for that reason and I feel like we've developed 396 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,800 a brand that says that we are in Austin event so I'm not ready to 397 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,000 move. Yet although you never know we 398 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:09,500 could move to Florida or who knows where but for the next 399 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:11,000 couple of years will be in Austin. 400 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,600 Yeah. No for sure, with the with all 401 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,500 the conference's, you know, post pandemic kind of coming back to 402 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:20,400 life, it seems there's more conferences than ever with in 403 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,900 the keto low carb Corner Force Base conferences, or like, like 404 00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:26,800 meetups some. Some big, some small, do you 405 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,300 feel like, what's the overall Vibe amongst other? 406 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,500 It's promoters within the space that because it pretty you know, 407 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,000 pretty cordial or is it pretty competitive and like a Cutthroat 408 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,000 got away. That's a great question. 409 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,100 No one's ever asked me that but I've also made I think that 410 00:25:46,100 --> 00:25:52,100 there's One other event planner that I've actually spoken to. 411 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,300 So I don't know if it's Cutthroat but I'm going to guess 412 00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:00,300 it's probably competitive because I've never been 413 00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:04,000 contacted by anybody. So if I was if I was going to 414 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,200 put on a conference which I probably will at some point, I'd 415 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,400 be calling everybody ever thrown a conference but hey Robin. 416 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,200 What should I do different? Which that I'm not do. 417 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000 Like I'd be contacting everybody, right? 418 00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:20,000 Oh, And I would be the one who would definitely sit down and 419 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,400 talk to you. Yeah, it's weird. 420 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,600 That, that that's not the case. I don't know. 421 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,100 I mean like in the food products based like with keto brick like 422 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:30,600 we're, I don't know. We're so different than a lot of 423 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,600 other bars so it's not really the same but I always try and 424 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,700 just like so many people have contacted me. 425 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,800 They're trying to build their own, you know, bar or food 426 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,700 product company and I just tell him, whatever I've learned and 427 00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:44,800 try to help them. I feel like, I don't know, I 428 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,200 kind of subscribe to the whole Rising tide. 429 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,900 Raises all Ships kind of philosophy. 430 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:54,800 I would agree with you. I just don't know how that plays 431 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,400 out in this space. Yeah, it's interesting. 432 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,700 Very interesting. What, what are some things that 433 00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:04,500 you would totally have done a 180 on? 434 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,200 As far as conferences? Go had you been able to do it at 435 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,400 a do-over? Like is there anything that 436 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,100 you've kind of like you know, backed yourself into a corner 437 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:20,700 with so to speak. Last year and this is just from 438 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:26,400 a business perspective. Last year, we did cooking Demos 439 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:33,100 in the venue and the cost for the stage, and the speakers and 440 00:27:33,108 --> 00:27:37,000 the microphones and everything was expensive. 441 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:42,300 And we only ended up using the space like four times. 442 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:50,500 So, At the time, I wasn't thinking of it from the 443 00:27:50,500 --> 00:27:55,000 financial perspective, I was thinking of it as a way to bring 444 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,500 experience and experience to the attendees. 445 00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:05,800 But in retrospect, now I know that you never have the venue 446 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,200 create space where they're staging and lighting and 447 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 microphones and chairs and all that kind of stuff. 448 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,600 If you're not going to use the real estate for the entire show, 449 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,700 Yeah, it's the first thing that came to my mom and you brought 450 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:21,500 up that was a mistake on my part. 451 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,900 What else? I'm one of those people that if 452 00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,800 you come to my house for dinner, I'm going to have enough for 453 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,900 probably an army rather than just one or two people and I do 454 00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:38,000 the same thing with key token. So I always I always over-order 455 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:42,700 stuff instead of being realistic or maybe even under ordering 456 00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:46,000 stuff that we won't need. So I have wasted money and that 457 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,600 regard ordering too much material for different things. 458 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,000 What else? Can't think of anything else but 459 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,500 I love the AV team that I work with even though they are my 460 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:04,600 largest expense. It seems like you would 461 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,200 definitely want to invest in quality people there. 462 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,400 Like, if you were to skimp on them, that can be a nightmare 463 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,400 and a half. I'll never take that chance. 464 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:19,600 Yeah, I worked with Cuttino TV from day one and the owner of 465 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:25,700 the company Michael Cuttino is he he has worked with me on a 466 00:29:25,708 --> 00:29:30,300 consultative basis from day one, so I knew nothing about this, 467 00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:34,400 the AV world at all. And not only has he been 468 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,400 Teaching me this side of the business, but he's also been 469 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,500 giving me really good advice on what we can use to improve the 470 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:50,500 experience where I can cut back to, you know, meet my budget 471 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:55,000 needs. He's been a true partner and 472 00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,300 yes, that's probably if I had to cut out. 473 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,600 Any other thing I might be willing but I would never be 474 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,600 willing to cut this out and cut out gatina TV. 475 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:13,700 Because in this situation, with this relationship, I give 476 00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:17,000 Michael a list of the speakers on all the different stages on a 477 00:30:17,008 --> 00:30:23,200 schedule, and he does the rest. So, the speaker send him their 478 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,000 presentations. He goes through each and every 479 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,800 one making sure there's no, you know, formatting issues or 480 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,000 anything he communicates with the speaker's. 481 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,700 If there's a problem, his team puts make sure that everything 482 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:41,300 is showing Right stage at the right time and if I never go to 483 00:30:41,300 --> 00:30:44,600 the keynote stage, or any of the breakout room stages throughout 484 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,100 the entire event, I know that everything is being taken care 485 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,300 of. So, yeah, that product, in my 486 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:53,900 opinion. That's one of the most important 487 00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:55,000 things. Yeah. 488 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,300 I think, I mean, that's always seem to run pretty Falls from my 489 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:00,600 perspective. So I think, yeah, he's 490 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,100 definitely got a great crew there for sure, for sure. 491 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,200 What do you think about the breakouts in the Keynote? 492 00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:08,800 Note stage being separate like, have you gotten much pushback on 493 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000 that or is pretty pretty people? Pretty pretty on board with it, 494 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,800 from the speaker's. You mean from the audience? 495 00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:27,000 Oh, Last year. Last year I got some feedback 496 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:33,100 that we had too many speakers. Yeah and I committed to not 497 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:37,600 having so many speakers this year and I I broke my promise. 498 00:31:39,100 --> 00:31:41,600 So, we have a lot of speakers again this year. 499 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,400 However, this year, I am recording all of the 500 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,800 presentations on all three stages. 501 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,900 So we'll be able to share those presentations with the speakers 502 00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:55,400 and then we're also selling like a virtual replay pass. 503 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,800 So that people if they miss a presentation because there's two 504 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,400 people, they want to see that are speaking. 505 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,200 At the same time on different stages, they'll be able to see 506 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:09,900 it after the show. The breakout room is really are 507 00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:14,200 a great opportunity for people who are not accustomed to 508 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,100 speaking in large groups. But they're, you know, in the 509 00:32:17,108 --> 00:32:21,300 breakout room, if you speak to 150 people, you still can have a 510 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:27,400 really impactful and engaging discussion with that group, on 511 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,100 the keynote stage mean, you're speaking to a thousand people 512 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400 minimum. And first of all, that can be 513 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,000 kind of overwhelming for someone who's new to speaking. 514 00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:42,700 And but it also does not lend very well to a like a personal 515 00:32:42,700 --> 00:32:44,800 discussion. So I think there's pros and cons 516 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,100 for each one. Yeah. 517 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:49,200 No for sure. I feel very blessed. 518 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,300 I mean you've given me the opportunity to speak every 519 00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:55,000 single year which is crazy. I mean, selfish question here, 520 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,000 why in the world have you? Let me speak every single year, 521 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,600 when there's so many great speakers out there, as I love 522 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,300 you. Well, I certainly appreciate it. 523 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:04,500 I'll definitely keep coming as often as you'll have me. 524 00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:08,900 You're a great speaker. Ever, the community loves you, 525 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:13,900 the audience loves the message that you bring and I wouldn't do 526 00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:16,500 it any other way. You bring so much to the event. 527 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:18,600 I would, I would always want you speaking. 528 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,400 I'm excited about this this year. 529 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,300 I haven't even started my presentation yet, but there's, 530 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:25,500 there's a lot of different directions I'm going to take it. 531 00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:28,500 Potentially, I mean, I'm going to have started my prep at that 532 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:30,700 point so it'll probably be a little bit, you know, 533 00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,600 nutritionally speaking in there. But I think I'm just going to do 534 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,000 a deep dive into, you know, mindset. 535 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,300 It. But in a way that, like, grips 536 00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:42,600 people by the freaking Soul, so I'm excited about that. 537 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,000 So it should be good. That's, that would be awesome. 538 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,100 That's definitely a conversation that needs to be had. 539 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,300 Yeah, for sure for sure. I kind of want to switch gears 540 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,200 to round out, the keto con discussion. 541 00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,400 Where do people get more information on? 542 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,200 Keto can get tickets, get set up and do all that good stuff. 543 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,000 So, key token dot-org is our website. 544 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,300 Is get tickets get tickets button in the upper right-hand 545 00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:14,699 corner, and there are several options. 546 00:34:14,699 --> 00:34:17,400 There's the virtual paths, which is for people who are not 547 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,100 attending the live event. There's a three-day pass which 548 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:29,800 is currently $250. There's a VIP ticket which is 549 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:36,699 all-inclusive and then there is a one-day pass for Sunday only 550 00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:41,500 so it's for people who really just want to see the expo hall 551 00:34:41,500 --> 00:34:44,100 and maybe see some of the speakers that are speaking on 552 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,400 Sunday. So those are the ticket options 553 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:52,000 and then who will see if I beg your pardon who all speaking on 554 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:56,400 Sunday is something a full day I have day Sunday is I mean, it's 555 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,200 till 4:30. So it's true. 556 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:08,700 I mean for all purposes is a full day. nice, so the the 557 00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:14,300 tickets the 3-day pass can be discounted and your community 558 00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:19,000 can use the code bricks. And they'll get $50 off the 559 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,300 three-day ticket and so that three day ticket right now is 560 00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:26,700 250. They will get the ticket for 200 561 00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:32,000 and the price actually goes up on March 1st, and at the door. 562 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:37,300 So, the ticket at the door will be 350 for the three-day pass. 563 00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:41,900 So if anyone and who is listening to, this hasn't gotten 564 00:35:41,900 --> 00:35:45,900 your tickets yet or wants to get tickets, make sure you do it. 565 00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:48,800 Soon, and use the code bricks, and then you'll be able to save 566 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:50,900 $50, boom. I love it. 567 00:35:50,900 --> 00:35:52,700 I love it. It will be printing shirts again 568 00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:53,700 this year, which had a lot of fun. 569 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:56,800 Don't last year to. Yes, that was a lot of fun and 570 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:01,200 we got some great feedback on that and I owe you my choice on 571 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,900 shirt options. Yeah. 572 00:36:02,900 --> 00:36:05,400 And Rec is just about done with the design work. 573 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,800 So I'll be able to have that to you soon too, sweet. 574 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,100 And we'll start getting that stuff ready to go just as soon 575 00:36:10,100 --> 00:36:12,500 as possible. Awesome. 576 00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:14,800 I'm super excited about Kita, akan, it's always an amazing 577 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200 conference. And I'm Eager to hit the ground 578 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,600 running with that. Now, to kind of like, round out 579 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:26,000 this podcast, I'd love to talk a little bit more about just just 580 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,700 you personally, you know, like you are the face of the 581 00:36:28,707 --> 00:36:34,800 conference and people associate, you know, you with Quito con but 582 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,000 they don't know that much about you. 583 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,100 And I feel like you've got an incredibly interesting story as 584 00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:43,600 well and I feel like it only does Kita akan story that much 585 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,900 more Justice to kind of know the backstory If you a little bit 586 00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:51,400 more so Health Journey, yeah, Health Journey, but then also 587 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,700 kind of like just, you know, I feel like you last time we spoke 588 00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,900 we do a little bit into the mindset of everything and just 589 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:01,500 kind of like, having a healthy relationship with time 590 00:37:01,700 --> 00:37:05,600 meditation and just outlook on life and I kind of want to dive 591 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,600 deeper into that. Okay. 592 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,300 So yeah we'll start just for the sake of it being I don't know 593 00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:13,300 nutrition conference nutrition Cod Castle. 594 00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,600 Let's start a little bit with your nutrition Back Store. 595 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,500 Been what kind of And switch gears and talk about the 596 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:24,100 mindset. So I struggled from about the 597 00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:29,500 time. I was 10 years old, until I was 598 00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:35,700 in my late 40s with a bunch of different when two different 599 00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:41,000 things. So it started out with a desire 600 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:47,100 to lose weight and that was for many many, many years, my 601 00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:50,500 biggest driver. So I thought I was overweight 602 00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:58,300 and I went through multiple diets and protocols to try and 603 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:02,900 get rid of that weight which never lasted long, I lose weight 604 00:38:02,900 --> 00:38:05,100 and gain it back, lose weight and gain it back. 605 00:38:05,100 --> 00:38:11,400 But in in that experience, part of that experience, I developed 606 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:17,100 a lot of problems that were symptoms of metabolic disorder. 607 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:21,100 So I had My A1C was close to Six. 608 00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:24,200 No one ever said a word to me about it. 609 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,600 My blood sugar was always high. I was very emotional. 610 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:35,400 I had hormonal dysregulation problems, and I was addicted to 611 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,300 food. So I struggled with all of those 612 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:47,500 things for many years, until I discovered the Atkins diet and 613 00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:52,200 started Playing around with low-carb and what that meant. 614 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,900 By the time I found the ketogenic diet and things 615 00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:03,000 resolved on their own as a result of removing. 616 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:11,300 All of those problematic foods for my diet and the appetite 617 00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:14,800 correction that comes with the ketogenic diet, after doing it 618 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:25,000 for a while, my body. he naturally found its Baseline, if 619 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,400 you will. Mmm, and I've never really had 620 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,500 to work. In the way that I thought it 621 00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:35,700 would have had to work for to normalize. 622 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:44,900 So, I think that looking back on it, I struggled with so many 623 00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:46,800 different things. The Depression was kind of 624 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,500 debilitating from going in and out of the addictive food 625 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:53,200 behaviors. Yeah. 626 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:58,900 When when I found the ketogenic diet and started you know, 627 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:04,800 diving into this world it just all happened naturally and at 628 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,700 the time I was working for a large global bank. 629 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:14,200 And I had always because of all the years of my diving into 630 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,700 Health Nutrition and fitness had it. 631 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:22,900 I always wanted to get out of corporate America, but I didn't 632 00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:26,500 think that I had the skills. And I did, really didn't know 633 00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:30,900 how to translate what I did know into something new, and that's 634 00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:35,800 when I discovered, the key evangelist Facebook group, and 635 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,500 that Brian, and he asked me to come work with him. so, and so, 636 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,100 What happened with me and that was a very summarized version. 637 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:50,200 But what happened with me was really my challenges eventually, 638 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,300 became my calling my crisis became my calling because all I 639 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:57,700 never would have found what I'm doing today. 640 00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:00,100 If I hadn't struggled for so many years to try and find what 641 00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:03,100 would work for me. And when you made, like, when 642 00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:09,700 did you leave that that big bang that global bank about? 643 00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:15,200 Six months before we did the first kid work on and you were 644 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:21,000 held in if you don't mind me asking that was in 2016. 645 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:30,100 So I was 50. 4:54. I feel like so many people are 646 00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:36,100 plagued with this idea that they can't ever reinvent themselves, 647 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,200 change course, and follow their passion. 648 00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:43,100 Once they've made it as 27, 28, 30 years old. 649 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,900 And here you are totally changing course in your 50s. 650 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:50,700 And I mean, imagine if you had never done that, like I would 651 00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:54,000 imagine I want to speak for you, but I would imagine your sense 652 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,200 of fulfillment in life would Just paling in comparison to 653 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,200 where you feel now having done. What. 654 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,500 You've got the past several years. 655 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,800 Yeah, I totally agree with you. I was feeling the lack of 656 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,400 fulfillment when I was at the bank, for sure. 657 00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:12,300 The only thing I was doing was helping big companies, make more 658 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:14,900 money. There was no fulfillment in that 659 00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,700 of, although I did have, you know, some great relationships, 660 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,600 it wasn't fulfilling my soul. It was just, it was fun. 661 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:26,800 You know, when it was fun. It was fun, having the 662 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,000 friendships with was nice but it definitely didn't give me a 663 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,200 sense of purpose. Yeah, at all. 664 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,300 Yeah. And you know, I made some 665 00:42:35,300 --> 00:42:39,500 decisions in those days that I don't, I, they were the right 666 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:43,100 ones for me, but I don't know if I would tell other people to do 667 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,300 the same thing. I mean, when I left the bank, I 668 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:51,600 had no promise of compensation. It was just a dream of building 669 00:42:51,600 --> 00:43:00,300 something and I the only thing I had to fall back on was the 670 00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:06,100 money that I had saved. So, when I left my husband, I 671 00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:09,300 agreed, I would do it for one year, and if the business didn't 672 00:43:09,300 --> 00:43:13,700 take off that, I would go back, but obviously, that didn't 673 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:18,100 happen. And the other thing is that, I, 674 00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:24,100 my kids were grown. So, the responsibility of 675 00:43:24,100 --> 00:43:29,200 supporting children was not there anymore, so it was, it was 676 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:34,400 time for me to make to take that risk for myself. and, 677 00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,900 Thankfully, I had the courage to do it. 678 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,700 Yeah. Feel like that courage is. 679 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,500 I don't know. I've been doing like a deep dive 680 00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:48,400 into, I don't know, like just societal pressures and the 681 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,500 current state of humanity I guess. 682 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,900 And I feel like a lot of this upheaval that we see in the 683 00:43:56,900 --> 00:44:04,500 world today is a result of people not having the courage to 684 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,500 go out and do something. This scares them but something 685 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:09,800 that they know they would be fulfilled by doing. 686 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:14,600 And if you knew that in succeed with it, like your level of 687 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:20,400 confidence is just, I guess it's just hard to hard to Fathom and 688 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,800 it's hard to quantify and have to tell you something, Robert. 689 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,500 The truth is the confidence comes after you make the 690 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:28,100 decision and you do it. Yeah. 691 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,800 For sure, for sure. Like you don't, you're not, 692 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,000 you're not like when you are right there at the brink of, you 693 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,600 know, stepping out of corporate American doing. 694 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,300 Nothing like there's zero confidence at that point. 695 00:44:38,300 --> 00:44:42,200 Like yeah, reason have confidence but like that comes 696 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,100 after you do that hard thing and then start to see some success 697 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:49,300 with it. And so many people I feel like 698 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,200 aren't, you know, going for that they're not pursuing that and 699 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,900 they're just fill with this void that just weighs down them. 700 00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:00,800 It's like this, this massive weight that they carry and like, 701 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:04,700 I might lose it all tomorrow. I made like Quito brick, may go 702 00:45:04,700 --> 00:45:09,100 kaput, you know, Who knows what's going to happen, but even 703 00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:13,400 if that happened, I would be able to like feel so 704 00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,300 accomplished and proud of just believing in myself enough to 705 00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:19,600 try, you know. Like, I think that is, there's 706 00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,700 so much value in that. Yeah, absolutely. 707 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,300 You know, I wish I had had that kind of Courage when I was your 708 00:45:26,300 --> 00:45:30,000 age, but I didn't, it took me a long time to get to the place 709 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:35,000 where I was ready to like jump off the cliff and even when not 710 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:39,500 like you said, he when I was doing it, I was terrified but I 711 00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:44,900 definitely do have confidence now in my ability to make hard 712 00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:52,800 decisions and To trust to trust my gut on. 713 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,700 What I'm what decisions I do need to make. 714 00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:04,800 Yeah. yeah, I definitely have a sense of Calm or peace, when it 715 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:09,800 comes to that kind of stuff now. And I believe that I built that 716 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:13,900 as a result of making some really hard decisions and 717 00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:16,400 following through with them and seeing that I could handle it. 718 00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:21,700 How do you know I kind of talked about this last year's Kita akan 719 00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:26,700 Comforts actually but like this concept of balance which I don't 720 00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:30,300 really subscribe to versus 10 segregate which is kind of what 721 00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:34,300 I talked about with my tunc but like How do you feel? 722 00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:36,500 Like we're both very driven, you know? 723 00:46:36,500 --> 00:46:39,700 Task-oriented people, how do you have that person? 724 00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:47,100 I'd type but then also have a life outside of kidoh:. oh, the 725 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:52,600 truth is that there are times when I'm really good at it. 726 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,900 And there are times where I'm not, yeah, I'm coming with, you 727 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:59,700 know, we're two and a half months out or two months out 728 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,100 from the event now, I would say I'm not doing a very good job of 729 00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:13,800 it right now. However, A couple of years ago I 730 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,500 shared with you. My first granddaughter was born 731 00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:22,700 and I was up in the middle of the night, helping take care of 732 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:24,600 her. When her mom was trying to 733 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:29,800 recover and rest, I was sleeping on my son's couch with the baby, 734 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:33,700 and I was holding her and it's like, 2:00 in the morning. 735 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:42,300 And I was overcome by this tremendous amount of joy. joy 736 00:47:42,300 --> 00:47:51,000 and love and gratefulness, and That flipped a switch in me to 737 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,300 remind me to never take that kind of stuff for granted, and 738 00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:58,100 when I was younger, I know I did. 739 00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:07,400 But now, I catch myself in moments like that. 740 00:48:08,700 --> 00:48:11,000 Where the I'm going to sound really flaky right now, but I 741 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:17,200 find myself saying, thank you. Thank you for this moment or 742 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,600 wow. I'm spending the afternoon with 743 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:24,700 my three-year-old granddaughter, who adores, me and this is all 744 00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,600 that's important at this very moment. 745 00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:34,800 I also am dealing right now with, I have an elderly father 746 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:40,900 who is as Ms, and he's in a nursing home and kind of ease at 747 00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:46,200 end-stage Ms. So when I go to visit him, there are times where 748 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,600 my head is full of Ki token stuff before I walk in the door, 749 00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:53,700 and then when I go to sit with him and talk to him all of that 750 00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:59,300 stuff, Doesn't exist anymore. And I never had the ability to 751 00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:02,300 do that when I was younger, but I do have the ability. 752 00:49:02,300 --> 00:49:08,200 Now to focus on what's important in the moment, my struggle is 753 00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:14,200 always making time for those those moments to happen. 754 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:20,900 Yeah. And the other thing I do, I hope 755 00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:22,800 I don't sound too flaky cheer listings right now. 756 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:26,500 Know the other thing, the other thing I do is at night when my 757 00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:32,900 head hits the pillow, I think about the people in my life that 758 00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:40,400 are closest to me, and what I see as their struggles and kind 759 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:47,600 of pray for them to have the strength to overcome them or to 760 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:52,200 find peace or to find love. Or I pray for my dad, when I 761 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,200 close my eyes at night and that he finds peace that when he 762 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,800 passes, he's he's able to find some peace. 763 00:50:00,700 --> 00:50:02,600 It was those are the kind of things that I do to keep me 764 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,500 grounded. Even now when my life is 765 00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,200 probably, as chaotic as it will ever be in the, you know, the 766 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,900 last two and a half months leading up to the event. 767 00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:17,100 That's that's really all I do. Ya know. 768 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:21,400 I think that that's important, you know, like when you when you 769 00:50:21,408 --> 00:50:25,200 actually like stop and take stock of your life and how 770 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,700 you're spending your time, like time is the most precious 771 00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:31,100 commodity, and it's crazy because Like there's all these 772 00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:33,900 things in life that we prioritize. 773 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:36,600 There's things in life that we place high value in. 774 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,800 But most people would say that, you know, like if they were held 775 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,200 at gunpoint, what do you care most about, you know, it's gonna 776 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,600 be the people in their life, their family, their 777 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,100 relationships, their kids, their their spouse. 778 00:50:49,700 --> 00:50:53,000 And then it's funny because like, you have that realization, 779 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:58,100 but then so much of your 24 hours is not spent focusing on 780 00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:02,300 that most important thing. Yeah, when you do spend time 781 00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:05,400 with him, it's often a disconnected time in which 782 00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,000 you're like scrolling through Instagram or not really being 783 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:11,400 present and I feel like the more you can just be made aware of 784 00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:17,700 them and truly be in the moment in those moments is is so so 785 00:51:17,700 --> 00:51:19,300 important. Otherwise like what is 786 00:51:19,300 --> 00:51:21,900 everything else? Even for like, yeah, he tokens 787 00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:25,700 great you're making a whole lot of people see a ton of value and 788 00:51:25,700 --> 00:51:28,000 you're having a massive impact. You're changing lives and way 789 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,500 you don't even realize, but But you always gotta like, keep that 790 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,100 you gotta keep your father front of mine. 791 00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:37,500 You got to keep your granddaughter, top of my like 792 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:40,100 all those things? That's what life's all about 793 00:51:40,100 --> 00:51:42,900 right there. Yeah, totally agree. 794 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,900 And I think it's definitely hard. 795 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,700 It's hard as an entrepreneur to do that for sure. 796 00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:50,500 Because you're wearing so many different hats. 797 00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:55,100 There's only 24 hours in a day and as I'm sure you can relate 798 00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:59,800 to, there comes a point in your business when you need help. 799 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,300 And you can't afford to get help. 800 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,800 And so everything is falling on your shoulders. 801 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:12,000 So I feel like that's kind of, that's a challenge. 802 00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:18,900 Finding that balance when you're an entrepreneur, making those 803 00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:24,400 decisions to prioritize what's most important making the time 804 00:52:25,300 --> 00:52:32,900 to be with those people. And there are times where there 805 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:36,900 are things that need to get done that can wait until tomorrow. 806 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,100 Yeah, yeah. Totally agree. 807 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,600 Totally agree. I think, you know, for me, 808 00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,500 having like the mornings and the evening's kind of as in camps 809 00:52:47,500 --> 00:52:50,900 the day and those are like Precious blocks for like I try 810 00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:52,800 not to work. Sometimes I'm still guilty of it 811 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,000 for sure but like, having those times where I could just fully 812 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,900 be with our son with Crystal, I mean, that's Like I don't answer 813 00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:05,100 emails and phone calls during those times for a reason, you 814 00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,400 like because like that that's just where it's it's meant to be 815 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:12,000 just there with them, right? But yeah that's that's not 816 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,800 always easy. I mean, having the discipline to 817 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,200 hand those boundaries is not easy. 818 00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:18,700 And as you said like when you're when you're trying to do 819 00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:23,500 everything yourself and you're very perfectionist, minded It's 820 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,800 it's easy to justify. Just burning the candle at both 821 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,300 ends at all times. Mmm. 822 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,400 I'm very guilty of that. Yeah, but that's why it's 823 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,600 therapeutic for people like you and I to talk to each other. 824 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,000 That's right. So totally Robin. 825 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,200 It is always a pleasure chatting with you. 826 00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:45,300 I benefit personally, talking with you. 827 00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:47,600 I feel like we're more to the same beat here. 828 00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,100 I'm super excited. About key, dokkan. 829 00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,800 I'm super excited and honored to have the privilege to speak 830 00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,200 again, Akito con. So yeah, we, it's going to be 831 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,900 great. It's gonna be very great and I'm 832 00:53:56,900 --> 00:54:00,900 hopefully, you are not stressed out to too much and you take 833 00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:03,200 time to smell the roses in leading up the heat gun. 834 00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:06,500 Well, thank you. I really appreciate you taking 835 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:10,000 the time to chat and for always supporting the event for 836 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,400 speaking every year for being there. 837 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,700 As a company, every year, it means a lot to us. 838 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,800 Yeah, wouldn't miss it for the world and just just to 839 00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:19,600 re-emphasize it. Sceeto conda. 840 00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,500 Org is repeating to go. Correct. 841 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,400 Awesome. And I'll pin you use the code 842 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:25,700 bricks? Yes. 843 00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:26,900 Yes. I'll put that in the show notes 844 00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:28,300 to make it easy for people to find you. 845 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,900 Okay, great. Lawson Robin. 846 00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:33,500 I will see you in just 2 months, I guess. 847 00:54:33,900 --> 00:54:35,400 Yes, you will. Thanks so much. 848 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:37,200 Robert. You bet take care and keep in 849 00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:39,000 touch. Bye-bye.