1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,500 Hello, ladies and gents Robert Sykes ketose a.com. 2 00:00:02,500 --> 00:00:05,700 And today I've got special guest Steve from serious keto on the 3 00:00:05,700 --> 00:00:09,000 line and we dive deep into his can of origin story as to what 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,300 got him started in the ketogenic diet and lifestyle, what got him 5 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:14,900 into the YouTube space, which he is absolutely killing. 6 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:19,100 By the way, and we kind of deep into his view on Kita, where 7 00:00:19,100 --> 00:00:22,300 it's going, what the highs and lows of kind of all the 8 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:26,100 dogmatism within the keto space. As we kind of went down that 9 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:28,500 rabbit hole and then we talked about a little bit of everything 10 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:31,800 else we talked about gardening. We talked about his other 11 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,800 interests as other YouTube channel kind of how he's going 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,600 to create more content on this holistic approach to his 13 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,400 interest in life thoroughly enjoyed it. 14 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:39,700 I've got a lot of respect for Steve. 15 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:42,000 I love what he's doing. I love the content. 16 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,100 He's putting out, I'm excited to dive deeper into his channel and 17 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:47,200 his content. I have no doubt that you will 18 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:48,800 take something from this conversation. 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,400 So without further Ado, sit back relax and do a podcast with 20 00:00:52,400 --> 00:01:03,600 Steve. And we are live. 21 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:06,000 Steve, how are you sir? I'm very good. 22 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,000 You, I am wonderful as well, man. 23 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,700 Wonderful as well. So I do honestly, don't know a 24 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:13,800 whole lot about your channel. I just kind of recently learned 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,900 of your YouTube channel dove into some of it and I watched 26 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:20,400 your latest video, looks like your four years in Aikido now, 27 00:01:21,500 --> 00:01:24,900 yeah, it's pretty pretty close. I'm trying to think when 28 00:01:24,900 --> 00:01:27,600 exactly, it was probably February. 29 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:38,300 January, February, 4 years ago. So 1999, 1999, 2019, that I 30 00:01:38,300 --> 00:01:41,300 started. And I didn't start the actual 31 00:01:41,300 --> 00:01:45,700 Channel until March, and then, I don't think I recorded my first 32 00:01:45,700 --> 00:01:50,200 video until May gotcha, but that's a little bit of the 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,900 history. What was the motivation for 34 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:53,300 starting to you in the first place, man? 35 00:01:54,300 --> 00:01:59,300 Well, I had a and I actually have a rather lengthy six-part 36 00:01:59,300 --> 00:02:04,600 video series of this on my site, but I had a bad 2018. 37 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:12,700 I've, I've been overweight or obese, most of my adult life and 38 00:02:12,700 --> 00:02:15,500 things kind of came to a head. In 2018, I'd lost my job. 39 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,700 I was laid off from GE and then there was just over there was a 40 00:02:19,708 --> 00:02:24,100 series of personal things that went wrong, it was just, it was 41 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:29,200 a train wreck of a year, and I realized that If I was going to 42 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:31,800 have the strength deal with some of these things, I had to get my 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:37,000 health in order first and around that time, I'd read the book 44 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:41,800 Presto by Penn jillette and how he had lost 100 pounds. 45 00:02:42,500 --> 00:02:45,900 And I thought, okay, well I'll use that as my model and he had 46 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:52,200 gone vegan and I tried that for eight weeks and realized that I 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,300 was not going to keep doing that because that was not at all fun. 48 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,000 And I also So at the time, I started researching, what do I 49 00:03:00,008 --> 00:03:05,100 do next? And I was looking at all kinds 50 00:03:05,100 --> 00:03:09,300 of low carb Alternatives, the Mediterranean diet, paleo Quito 51 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:12,600 and ultimately what won me over to Quito is cheese. 52 00:03:12,900 --> 00:03:16,700 I'm wisconsinite and that kind of sealed the deal for me. 53 00:03:16,900 --> 00:03:20,200 I also realized and even Penn jillette talked about this in 54 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:26,100 his book that he had gone largely vegan Quito. 55 00:03:26,300 --> 00:03:29,900 I mean, he what he was eating as part of his vegan diet is 56 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,200 basically, all the stuff that we eat on keto. 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:38,500 He I wasn't eating meat so you know to me the transition was 58 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:40,600 pretty smooth. I didn't have any keto flu. 59 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,100 I was already kind of used to it. 60 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,300 Gotcha when it comes to diets in general and you kind of mention 61 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:51,700 this in the video that I just watched as well about how 62 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,300 there's this dissolution or dilution, I guess of the term 63 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,100 Quito in part because of all these different sub groups that 64 00:04:01,100 --> 00:04:02,900 are popping up. I'd love to kind of Flesh that 65 00:04:02,900 --> 00:04:06,300 out because So everything that you were saying on your video, 66 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 I've said, as well, it makes a lot of sense to me. 67 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,900 It's frustrating because for someone like you, someone like 68 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:16,000 myself that have come to Quito out of and part desperation for 69 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,300 trying to prove her own health. But then also just becoming part 70 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:21,500 of all the good that it has to bring all the community. 71 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,100 It's kind of sad to see it lose its credibility. 72 00:04:25,500 --> 00:04:28,900 So I'd love to kind of just flesh that idea out a little bit 73 00:04:28,900 --> 00:04:31,400 further and kind of figure out where you stand on that topic. 74 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,400 Sure. And you you kind of started to 75 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,800 go in the direction that I was and I'm sure once I say this 76 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,000 yellow agree, it's not just that we came to Quito in desperation, 77 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,600 but I think we're both teachers or Educators in a way we want 78 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,000 it. We want to bring people into 79 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,900 this, we want to be able to share the goodness, that has 80 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:55,100 happened to us besides just losing weight. 81 00:04:55,100 --> 00:05:00,000 Just the whole metabolic Health that you achieve through keto 82 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,900 and I know that When I started, I was kind of confused. 83 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,200 There's a lot of information and a lot of misinformation out 84 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,800 there, especially within the YouTube and Facebook 85 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:15,200 communities, and, and then there's also all of this 86 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,500 tribalism that goes on. Everybody's got their own key. 87 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:22,400 Do you know? It seems like it. 88 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:26,000 I'm keto for, or I'm, I'm true Quito. 89 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:29,900 I'm a lot of these people that have the one true way and I'm 90 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:33,300 making air quotes right there are Are also selling their plan. 91 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:40,000 So there's that there are so many keto police and ingredient 92 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:43,300 police out there. And I actually plan a diving 93 00:05:43,300 --> 00:05:46,200 into this topic deeper in my next week's podcast, but I'll 94 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,300 share it with you right now. I've kind of come to the mind 95 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:50,900 that there are three types of Quito. 96 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:56,100 There is metabolic keto, which is, are you in ketosis? 97 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:58,100 Or are you not? I don't care if you're clean, 98 00:05:58,100 --> 00:06:01,800 keto, dirty Quito, what kind of Quito you're either in? 99 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,700 Moses, or you're not, you're either burning fat as fuel, you 100 00:06:04,707 --> 00:06:08,600 are fat adapted, or you aren't. I mean, when this diet was 101 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,800 created a hundred years ago, that was, it wasn't a list of 102 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,200 don't eat this. Don't eat that. 103 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,200 You can't have this, you can't have that. 104 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,900 It was get into ketosis. That was the goal. 105 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:26,100 And so I see one type of Quito as metabolic keto, then you've 106 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:30,200 got grocery store keto, which is what I touched on in the podcast 107 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:35,500 that I release today. Which is big food playing around 108 00:06:35,500 --> 00:06:40,200 with net carbs and releasing stuff that is not going to have 109 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:43,400 people achieving the benefits of Quito. 110 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,900 And I've seen this time and time again, as I've done product 111 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:49,700 reviews of some of these commercial, keto products breads 112 00:06:49,700 --> 00:06:55,000 tortillas crackers, Etc. I see, I see glucose spikes that 113 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,100 are comparable to eating real bread or real tortillas or real 114 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:03,800 crackers and people, you know, what makes Sad, is that you have 115 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:08,500 people that want to get onto the keto lifestyle and they're 116 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:12,900 buying these keto products and they're not going into ketosis 117 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:14,900 and they're not experiencing the benefits. 118 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:18,000 So that's frustrating. And then finally, the third 119 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:22,000 category is internet Quito, which is a lot of these 120 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,400 influencers that, like, telling people that they're doing keto 121 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,100 wrong, yeah, and and creating this tribalism. 122 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:33,600 And, and to me, that's That's one of the most frustrating 123 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:37,100 aspects of it all purple. I don't know if the grocery 124 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:38,900 store. Keto frustrates me more or 125 00:07:38,900 --> 00:07:41,500 Internet? Keto frustrates me more because 126 00:07:41,500 --> 00:07:45,700 both of them are going to cause new people to either fail or 127 00:07:45,700 --> 00:07:46,800 quit. Yeah. 128 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,500 And that's that's what I hate to see because there are so many 129 00:07:50,500 --> 00:07:54,700 people that need Quito. It's kind of sad because I mean 130 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:56,300 you've been doing keto for four years. 131 00:07:56,300 --> 00:08:00,400 Now, I've been doing it for I guess going on eight and you and 132 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,500 I were both putting out content. In Quito reached its Zenith, I 133 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:08,000 guess from a Google Trends standpoint, and at that time, 134 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,900 like all these conferences were new, all of these products. 135 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:15,100 I mean, at the very beginning, there were no products and 136 00:08:15,100 --> 00:08:17,800 everybody was just like, they had this Vigor for just learning 137 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,300 more diving into it, going into the research, creating the 138 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:25,400 podcast, listen to the podcast. And there was not near the 139 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:30,000 different types of key to like there was just simply keto and I 140 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,400 feel like you know, if You are around during that time like 141 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,500 that was its quote, unquote, Glory Days. 142 00:08:35,500 --> 00:08:38,100 And I miss those times like I loved those times, like the 143 00:08:38,100 --> 00:08:41,000 relationships I've built when we're on the same page and we're 144 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:45,000 all in level playing Ground was. I mean it was beautiful and I 145 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,000 feel like because keto has gained so much in popularity, it 146 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,600 just it just the way the world works. 147 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,600 It like all these big food companies have come to kind of 148 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,100 just be where the people are and that's resulted in all these 149 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:01,700 subpar products and just faulty marketing towards ignorant. 150 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,900 Nurse and people that are getting into the space now and 151 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:07,100 doing a simple Google search on what is Quito. 152 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:10,200 Like I can't even imagine being in their position because the 153 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,000 different types of conflicting information. 154 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,800 They're receiving with a simple Google search. 155 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,000 Would leave them. Not knowing where to go next 156 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,500 because it's just, oftentimes conflicting. 157 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:23,300 So I don't know. Like I don't like where things 158 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:26,000 are going but I don't know if there's any way to change that 159 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:29,800 because it's inevitable with the interest in Quito that has 160 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,300 arisen. Like that's just what's 161 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:32,700 happened. With every type of diet, it 162 00:09:32,700 --> 00:09:38,300 seems, yeah, it's it's been very frustrating and I don't have a 163 00:09:38,308 --> 00:09:41,000 lot of Sleepless sleepless nights, but when I do, it's 164 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,800 thinking about this thinking about where does keto go and 165 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:48,200 does, there need to be a different name for it because it 166 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,300 has become so diluted both between, you know, people 167 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:54,700 breaking it up into all of these different factions in there in 168 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:57,500 fighting. And, you know, the I hear 169 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:00,300 countless stories about people that they want to learn keto, 170 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,200 they find a Facebook group, they Out there. 171 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:07,300 They asked a benign question like you know, can I eat corn 172 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:09,800 starch or something like that and they get banned. 173 00:10:10,100 --> 00:10:13,600 Mmm. It's it's not an especially 174 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,300 welcoming environment just because in some situations you 175 00:10:17,300 --> 00:10:21,600 have people that are just militant about it absolutely 176 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,300 dogmatic and in other situations you've just got so much 177 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:30,300 conflicting information from different sources and like you 178 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:33,600 said it just I would love to just Have us call it keto, are 179 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:34,800 you in ketosis? Good. 180 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,700 You're doing keto for some people. 181 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:39,700 That may mean counting net carbs. 182 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:42,400 For some people that may be total carbs, and the numbers may 183 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,600 be different. What knocks you out of Quito? 184 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,200 May knock, may not knock me out of Quito. 185 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:50,000 What spikes, my blood glucose might not Spike yours. 186 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:55,400 It needs to be, I think an individual thing, but the 187 00:10:55,400 --> 00:11:00,200 problem is we've also gotten to a point in history where we 188 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,200 don't want to learn. We just Answers. 189 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:06,300 Yeah, just tell me how to do it. I don't have time to understand. 190 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:10,500 Keto, just tell me what to do. And the problem is, there's 191 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:13,400 multiple people telling them what to do and the answers 192 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,900 aren't the same. Yeah. 193 00:11:14,900 --> 00:11:19,100 And I feel like, you know, with, I mean, with key to like ketosis 194 00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:21,400 key to adapt to. These are all medical terms, 195 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,400 scientific terms. Like it's not like a like a 196 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,800 South Beach Diet or something. That is a little bit more 197 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,500 buzzworthy that may kind of rise and fall in popular. 198 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:34,200 This is rooted in In scientific and medical literature. 199 00:11:34,500 --> 00:11:38,800 So it's got that going for it. But I mean it like like you 200 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:42,300 said, like it just becomes diluted with all of the noise 201 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,300 that comes into the equation and I don't know what the solution 202 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:49,900 would be because I don't know. I mean for you you have a 203 00:11:49,908 --> 00:11:52,200 YouTube channel called serious keto. 204 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,400 Like do you Rebrand or do you just stick to your guns and 205 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,900 stick with the name? If if I could go back in time 206 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:01,700 there would be a different name for a couple of reasons. 207 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,900 Since one, I'm not all that serious. 208 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:09,500 I mean, I'm, I I joke around a fair amount, I like having fun. 209 00:12:09,500 --> 00:12:14,000 I think that some people may misinterpret serious to mean 210 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,400 that I'm dogmatic. And I'm not, I think, well, 211 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:21,800 first off, and you probably know this when you were looking for 212 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,100 websites for yourself, it's hard. 213 00:12:24,100 --> 00:12:27,300 It is hard to find a website a.com that isn't taken. 214 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,400 It is so, you know, you're going through domains dot Google. 215 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,200 Just trying every idea. Now that you have trying to find 216 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,400 something and I think that maybe I just watched a South Park 217 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,300 episode and I had Cartman on the brain. 218 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,600 So I was thinking like serious. Yeah, seriously keto Beefcake. 219 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:49,100 And so I typed in Syria sceeto and it was there and I'm hit 220 00:12:49,100 --> 00:12:54,200 register and set up the website. And now I can't put the 221 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,600 toothpaste back in the tube, but I probably own about 30 222 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,200 different Quito and or low carb URL names. 223 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,000 Just in case If I decide to switch? 224 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,800 Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. So, the other problem is the 225 00:13:05,808 --> 00:13:07,800 word key. Do you know what happens? 226 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,800 If, if the word keto becomes completely meaningless? 227 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,300 Is that, you know, do I need to just change the channel name, do 228 00:13:16,300 --> 00:13:18,900 I need to get a new URL? What do I do? 229 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,800 I don't know if I'm right at all and thinking this this is kind 230 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,800 of been my approach to it because I mean, all of my stuff 231 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,100 is Quito to, I've got keto brick, I've got keto Savage, 232 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:29,800 having maybe things either keto savage or live savage or some 233 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,400 variation of and I feel like live savage. 234 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,300 Obviously is more generic in that sense, but I don't really 235 00:13:37,300 --> 00:13:41,200 see myself deviating from the keto name because I feel like 236 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:43,600 with a lot of this Noise. It's come. 237 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:47,000 It's not going to last like all this big food that has brought 238 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,500 the noise into the consumer packaged goods, for instance, or 239 00:13:50,500 --> 00:13:53,400 all the nonsense, you know, bickering back and forth with 240 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,200 people on YouTube that are supposed experts. 241 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,500 Like they'll move on to the next big hype whenever that big hype 242 00:13:59,500 --> 00:14:02,400 comes, which it will. And if that means the overall 243 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,500 volume of people in the keto space dwindles, but the quality 244 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:10,900 of people increases, then I'm fine with serving a smaller more 245 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:13,500 qualified audience. I Don't know if that will be the 246 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:15,800 case. But that's kind of where I've 247 00:14:16,100 --> 00:14:18,400 wanted to take things and kind of where I'm planting my flag in 248 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,100 the ground so to speak and I think that's certainly a 249 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:24,800 possibility. There are, there are a number. 250 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,600 Well I mean you see it just on a daily basis. 251 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:32,600 So you people start up a YouTube channel because they think it's 252 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:36,700 the hot thing and they're going to turn it into money or 253 00:14:36,700 --> 00:14:44,800 whatever Fame Fortune glory and the The, the influx of new keto 254 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,700 channels, even since I started is just amazing and I don't mean 255 00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:52,200 that necessarily in a good way. It's just, it's there are 256 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,600 certain people that maybe shouldn't have keto channels. 257 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:58,500 Yeah. Or need to recognize that at 258 00:14:58,500 --> 00:14:59,700 best. It's just going to be sort of a 259 00:14:59,700 --> 00:15:04,900 hobby for them but I think a lot a lot of people get into it and 260 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:08,100 they think that it's going to be an income stream because it is a 261 00:15:08,108 --> 00:15:09,400 hot thing and that's what happens. 262 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,200 People see a hot thing they get in on it. 263 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:15,800 Then you've got certain keto companies that may take 264 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,900 advantage of that, you know, you you see generally once people 265 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:25,400 get into that five, ten thousand subscriber range, there are 266 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,400 certain key tow companies that I wouldn't call them predatory but 267 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,800 they pounce on people like that and say oh let me send you some 268 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,000 free stuff for you to review and at that point since you're 269 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:39,400 you're small, you're growing, you're flattered your flattered, 270 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,100 when you know, keto Corp Sentinels. 271 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,800 As you a package of powder and you want to get in on that and 272 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,100 then you want to be an affiliate marketing partner and then you 273 00:15:49,300 --> 00:15:51,300 it just it kind of spirals from there. 274 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,300 Yeah. But I think you do hit a point 275 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:58,200 where it just either. These companies are going to get 276 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:02,000 more selective and say. All right, so such and such a 277 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,400 channel is not good for our brand because of the way they're 278 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,300 behaving because of some of the things they say, perhaps the way 279 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:12,100 they treat their Community, maybe maybe. 280 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:16,200 You see a decrease in that that that drives that maybe flushes 281 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,400 away. Some of these other keto 282 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,900 channels and keto influencers or maybe like you said there's the 283 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:26,100 next big thing that comes along. What was your personal 284 00:16:26,100 --> 00:16:27,300 motivation for starting the channel? 285 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:29,500 Because you're you're killing it, whatever you whatever you're 286 00:16:29,500 --> 00:16:34,200 doing, you're doing it right. My eye was a foodie and that was 287 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,100 sort of reflected in my weight as well. 288 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,600 I have just had a passion for cooking since childhood and and 289 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,800 a passion for eating as well. And what I found when I started 290 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:50,800 doing keto was There were a couple of things that I saw, as 291 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,600 I got out on YouTube, One, a lot of really just not very good 292 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,300 recipes. There's things like, you know, 293 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,700 the healthy substitutions like it instead of a burger bun. 294 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:04,000 Use a leaf of lettuce. Yeah, I'm like that's not a 295 00:17:04,008 --> 00:17:06,400 burger anymore. That's a lettuce wrap. 296 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:07,300 Come on. Let's go. 297 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,099 We can do better A lot of recipes that were just. 298 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:16,599 They felt like Sort of like the stuff you see on Tick-Tock it's 299 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:18,900 like I would have come up with this if I came home from the 300 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:22,300 bars and college drunk one night and just said all right let's 301 00:17:22,300 --> 00:17:25,500 whip some stuff together. Some really not very great 302 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:30,800 recipes and then some people that just do you know maybe 303 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,000 maybe they know how to cook but they just didn't have the the 304 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,400 screen presence or the editing skills or something like that. 305 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,200 And I thought maybe I can I don't know. 306 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,900 I mean I'll give it a shot. I wasn't so. 307 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:45,900 Full of myself that I thought for sure. 308 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:48,100 I could do it. But that's the great thing about 309 00:17:48,100 --> 00:17:49,600 YouTube. When you first start nobody's 310 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,700 watching so you have the ability to make a lot of mistakes and 311 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:56,000 learn from them. So my motivation was really, I 312 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:00,500 wanted people to enjoy food on keto as much as I knew that I 313 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:05,300 could enjoy food on keto, do you feel like the recipe market, 314 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,200 like the people that are creating food blogs food 315 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,300 channels? Like you think that has become 316 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:12,700 over saturated or do you think that there's still plenty of 317 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:15,900 room there because like I am I'm not a foodie, I love good food 318 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,400 but I'm a body butter, that would eat dirt if it made me 319 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,900 better. So like a lot of people that 320 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:24,300 are, you know, that our food is trying to make these channels, 321 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,600 like, is that a viable outlet for them? 322 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,200 Or is it just like way too many as it is? 323 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:33,000 It is, it's saturated. I wouldn't I wouldn't try and 324 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:35,200 start one. Now, if I were to her, if I were 325 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,700 starting keto today and had the idea to start a channel, I 326 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:44,500 wouldn't I wouldn't do it. It's It is, it's gotten very 327 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,800 iterative as well. You know, someone will do a 328 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,900 recipe and then everybody else will do that recipe. 329 00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:53,800 And then you start getting into who invented this recipe. 330 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:58,000 First? It's just it's hard to keep 331 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,700 coming up with new stuff and Innovative stuff. 332 00:19:00,700 --> 00:19:02,900 And that was one of the things early on in my channel I wanted 333 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,900 to really innovate. I wanted to come up with a corn 334 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:10,400 tortilla that tasted like a corn tortilla and I started drawing 335 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:13,900 on some of my experience. Molecular Gastronomy and using 336 00:19:13,900 --> 00:19:20,500 certain modernist ingredients. And you get to a point where 337 00:19:20,500 --> 00:19:23,800 it's just, everybody's trying to one-up the next person. 338 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,700 So I've kind of pulled back and am looking at recipes that I 339 00:19:27,708 --> 00:19:29,900 call. Coincidentally Quito. 340 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:35,800 Incidentally, I own that URL. But things that is as I go 341 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:40,100 through a cookbook, like an older cookbook something by 342 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:43,400 shocked, by pain, for example. Sample and I see a recipe and 343 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,900 I'm like, wow, everything in this is Quito or could be made 344 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,500 keto with, you know, small substitution instead of 345 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,900 cornstarch I'm going to use Santa and gum as a thickener. 346 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:56,800 For example, it's coincidentally Quito and it's a classic recipe 347 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:00,000 and it's great. So you know, let's let's get 348 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,400 away from this notion that it's just all bacon and eggs and 349 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,700 butter and beef. We can we can actually eat stuff 350 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,500 that looks and tastes. And in fact is Regular food that 351 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:15,500 we can also serve potentially to our non-kyoto family and they'll 352 00:20:15,500 --> 00:20:17,200 appreciate as well. Yeah. 353 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,200 I don't I mean kind of going back to all these different 354 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,600 versions of Quito like I consider carnivore a subset of 355 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:26,000 Quito, but from a recipe generation standpoint, I would 356 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,100 think that with the popularity that carnivore has received in 357 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,500 recent years, that's probably made it harder for my recipe 358 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:35,100 standpoint because there's just fewer options, you have it for 359 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:37,100 following a street corner for diet, when it comes to 360 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,800 formulating recipes, well, I've made a couple of car Of our 361 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,100 recipes. And I'll have some carnivore 362 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:46,000 people that are little say, oh, that's great. 363 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,000 That's perfect. I love it. 364 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,400 Thank you so much. And they agree that you're 365 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,300 allowed a certain percent of sort of non carnivore. 366 00:20:53,300 --> 00:20:56,200 Like, okay. You can have some seasonings or 367 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,600 something like that. I've had other people that have 368 00:20:59,900 --> 00:21:04,900 crawled down my throat because I had some herb in along with the 369 00:21:04,900 --> 00:21:06,600 meat. They're like, oh, that's a plant 370 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,500 that will kill you. How come on, you know. 371 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:10,400 All right. Fine. 372 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:15,900 Your Carnivore pancake can be a beef patty enjoy, you know it, 373 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:19,200 but it's just everybody. Everybody has gotten so uptight. 374 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,600 Well not everybody. That's I hate sweeping 375 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,800 generalizations. So many people, I think I've 376 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,700 gotten so uptight. I think a lot of it maybe is the 377 00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:31,200 fact that, you know, for a couple of years, we were kind of 378 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,200 denied human contact. You had everybody getting used 379 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,100 to being at home and all of their human contact. 380 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,500 Was through a keyboard and a webcam. 381 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,900 And I think it's just It's resulted in a little bit of a 382 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:46,400 breakdown in politeness. Yeah, I agree. 383 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,100 I agree. I think they're like when we 384 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,700 first started putting out content. 385 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,300 Oh, came up with a product and everything like like my wife and 386 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,800 I people were brutal, man. Like when we were selling our 387 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,000 products or we made a product. People didn't like, I mean, they 388 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,000 were just ruthless. And like, before we start had 389 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,900 any experience with this, like we didn't have thick skin to it. 390 00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:08,500 So it was just amazing that people could be so rude. 391 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,400 We had a lot of really positive feedback too. 392 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,700 But like when you start Content, you really have to just learn 393 00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:18,400 to, you know, hard in your skin, to that kind of feedback. 394 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:21,200 I mean, we get an overwhelmingly large percentage of our feedback 395 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,900 is positive, not negative, but the negative seems to Fester 396 00:22:23,900 --> 00:22:26,500 much, much more. So, like that's the the comments 397 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:28,500 that draw your attention. You can get 100 positive 398 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,700 comments and one negative one that negative ones, one that 399 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,600 eats at you at night, but that's tough, man. 400 00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:37,900 So I call those workout fuel, you know, I had to die devil 401 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:42,900 little mental shift because I was burning out on ants, you 402 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:47,100 know, you would get I get, you know, I don't know, 500 comments 403 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:52,300 a day, sometimes more and I try and read them all and I reply to 404 00:22:52,300 --> 00:22:57,700 a fair number of them. But you'll get three, four, 405 00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:00,000 five, a day, which is a fraction. 406 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,900 It's one percent, but it just, you know, it raises your blood 407 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:06,100 pressure. Yeah. 408 00:23:06,100 --> 00:23:10,000 And you know I decided. Okay, I can't, I can't let this 409 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,400 bother me because the the bigger I get the more More of this I'm 410 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,400 going to get. So instead I only now look at 411 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,300 comments right before. It's time to lift that way. 412 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,400 You know you you can focus on that and bang out a few extra 413 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,200 reps at smart. That's Mars, Listen to, I don't 414 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,900 know if it's a podcast or if it was the audiobook never finished 415 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:33,400 by Goggins. But he was talking about how he 416 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,600 takes all these negative comments that he gets people. 417 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:36,800 Give him all kinds of negative comments. 418 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,900 Oh yeah, he'll read them. That you'll print them off and 419 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:42,800 he'll read them out loud and record him reading him and then 420 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:46,400 I put like music over to it. He's got his own Own playlist of 421 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,800 haters talking shit about him. And I'm like, man, that is some 422 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,600 dedication right there. That's a good way to take that 423 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,700 negativity and leverage it to make yourself better, which I 424 00:23:54,708 --> 00:23:57,400 like. So I haven't read the new book. 425 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:04,000 I read his first book and I read living with a seal by the guy 426 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,500 that's married to the woman who runs Spanx. 427 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:13,100 It's about, I'm totally drawn a blank, but he had basically paid 428 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,600 Goggins to live with him for a month. 429 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,600 And train them like a seal. And that's that's a pretty 430 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,500 interesting book as well. And not read that one, but I'll 431 00:24:21,508 --> 00:24:23,400 definitely check it out. He's got guns. 432 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,100 Is pretty motivating guy, man. Like I listened to his first 433 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:29,700 podcast with Rogan and I literally signed up for a 434 00:24:29,708 --> 00:24:33,400 marathon having not run in seven plus years to just run a 435 00:24:33,408 --> 00:24:35,700 marathon to see if I could. I mean that's kind of motivation 436 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:39,000 that people need. I also though there's there's 437 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,000 part of me that I temper it with a little bit where I wonder just 438 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:46,200 how much longer is body is the last You know, there's I think 439 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800 there's a certain degree of abuse that you can put a human 440 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,700 body through and he gets to the point where it's it's almost 441 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:57,500 masochistic. It seems like totally totally. 442 00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:01,000 And honestly that's one of my main, you know, motivations for 443 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,700 sticking with Quito from Michael longevity standpoint. 444 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,700 I feel like I feel like if you're doing things in a healthy 445 00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:10,000 manner, like you're not sacrificing form and your body 446 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,800 allows for moments and time to be at 100%, but like you can't 447 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000 operate at 100%. Indefinitely because you will 448 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,900 break down and burn out. But I feel like from a longevity 449 00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:22,400 standpoint pairing, a well-formulated ketogenic diet 450 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,900 with weight training, and then a cardiovascular activity, like 451 00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:30,100 that's the best Trifecta that you can, you know, input into 452 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:33,400 your life to give yourself the best, bang for the buck 453 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,300 long-term. So I'm hopeful that I'll be able 454 00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,800 to keep doing the stuff that I'm doing years down the road 455 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,500 because of the dietary and lifestyle you know, changes that 456 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:44,600 have made up to this point. Well, I get comments. 457 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:48,700 Almost on a daily basis from people, especially if I show any 458 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:51,800 picture of myself. From 10 years ago, I look 459 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,000 younger. And I feel way younger than I 460 00:25:55,008 --> 00:25:58,300 did 10 years ago I feel younger than I did when I was 30 and I'm 461 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:03,300 going to be 55 next week. It is it is truly Quito is the 462 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:05,900 Fountain of Youth. It is absolutely amazing. 463 00:26:05,900 --> 00:26:09,600 How much your body feels better than it did before. 464 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,400 When you get rid of inflammation I bring this up a lot in 465 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,500 podcasts. People don't know what 466 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:18,100 inflammation is they think, oh it's just I'm just getting 467 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:19,600 older. That's why it hurts getting out 468 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,000 of bed. No, it hurts getting out of bed 469 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,000 because you're eating grains and sugar and just trash. 470 00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:30,500 Highly processed foods and Seed oils and that's what's making 471 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:33,200 your body hurt. That's what's making your body 472 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,400 perform sub-optimally. That's why you grunt. 473 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,400 When you get off the couch give that stuff up. 474 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,900 And it's unbelievable. How how things change just 475 00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:46,200 holistically within your body. Yeah, I totally agreement. 476 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:50,700 I feel like having I feel like with with a classy, a 20 oz of 477 00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:52,600 natural choices, like if you just simply remove all the 478 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,300 processed junk and eat real Quality Foods and ideally avoid, 479 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:01,400 all the process grains and sugars carbohydrates, like 480 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,100 that's 80% of what most people can do to yield the vast 481 00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:07,800 majority of the returns from a dietary intervention. 482 00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,800 And then, once you do that, then you could really start going to 483 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,100 the nuances of all the other little minor tweaks that can get 484 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:16,100 you closer to. Hundred percent but like that 485 00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:18,000 would be the best bang for the buck without a doubt. 486 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,100 So let me ask you a question by all means what. 487 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,200 So one of the things that I probably am going to cover in a 488 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000 future podcast or I've also started this series keto for 489 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,900 beginners where I cover I'll dedicate a full 15, 20 minutes 490 00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:35,300 to one topic. And one of the ones that I want 491 00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:41,600 to talk about is Quito myths and some of the things that you hear 492 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,500 either, within the keto Community or outside of the keto 493 00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,300 Community, what would you say outside? 494 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:51,900 For both for both which would you say is some of the biggest 495 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:55,600 keto myths, you would love to see dispelled because, you know, 496 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,400 their myths? Well, as a bodybuilder, I get a 497 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,200 lot of pushback from people more, so tell you, you need 498 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:03,900 carbs, you need carbs to work out. 499 00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:05,600 Yes. And you have to have carbs to 500 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,700 build muscle. And a lot of times people will 501 00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:11,300 say, they'll point to people that have muscle indicator, 502 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:15,300 space myself, Danny, Vega Logan. I mean, lots of people that have 503 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,400 muscle to Quito space and they'll be like, yeah, but all 504 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,300 of their physique was built when they were Still eating carbs, 505 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,600 and that's just not the truth. I mean, I've been bodybuilding 506 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,800 for 14 years. I've been keto more than half of 507 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800 that time. Yes, I built a lot of muscle 508 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,000 before I went keto, but a lot of that is simply because when you 509 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,900 first start weight training, your body has a very new 510 00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:38,200 stimulus that is subjected to and you're going to put on a lot 511 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,200 of muscle relatively quickly in that initial period of time. 512 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:44,600 But then you continue to build muscle. 513 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:46,800 If you do things properly, especially the Natural Body 514 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,700 Butter. It takes very, it takes a long 515 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,600 time. Time to build muscle tissue. 516 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,600 After you've reached some degree of muscle maturity in your body 517 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,700 has acclimated to that stimulus. So I've built a lot of muscle 518 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:02,800 post Quito, it just takes a long time and I feel like that rumor 519 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,700 certainly needs to be dismissed him. 520 00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:09,800 If you're eating ample calories, a protein and of dietary fat to 521 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,500 fuel the workouts and you're able to feel the workouts in a 522 00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:15,000 way to subject, your body to Progressive overload principles, 523 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,000 then you will grow and you're recovering properly, then you 524 00:29:18,008 --> 00:29:21,000 will grow, and you will put on Muscle, so, that needs to die, 525 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,500 that that myth. And then the notion that you 526 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:27,400 can't get lean and can't fill out for a competition and have 527 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,900 vascularity and actually Peak properly for a competition day, 528 00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:34,000 is also totally inaccurate. I mean, all of the best Peak 529 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,900 weeks that I've had as a bodybuilder have come since I 530 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:39,600 went Chi-Town that I've got better muscle pumps better, 531 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:42,400 vascularity better performance on stage and I've done. 532 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,200 So in a healthier fashion like without having to manipulate my 533 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,300 fluid intake. Well, I have to go drastically 534 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:50,000 low, with my electrolytes. Without having to do anything 535 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,900 like diuretics, it's much, much healthier in that regard in my 536 00:29:52,908 --> 00:29:56,200 opinion and it's more sustainable in my opinion. 537 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,100 And I feel like a lot of competitors that go through, 538 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,900 traditional dietary means with the high carbs, high protein low 539 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:05,200 fat. They're left with a lot of 540 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,700 hormonal imbalances, post-show, and they left with binging 541 00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:11,000 Tendencies. Post-show, and if you do things 542 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,500 properly with a ketogenic diet, you don't tend to have near the 543 00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:17,000 negative repercussions. Post-show and that post-show 544 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,300 chapters, what a lot of people don't talk about, About. 545 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,400 So, I'm glad you you. That was the one, you came up 546 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:30,800 with because I was not a big fella muscularly. 547 00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:34,900 I was a big fellow around the waist for a long time, but 548 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,900 really started getting into strength training more last year 549 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:45,200 and I'm, I go out of Quito a couple of times a year, you 550 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,600 know, they'll be a family event a party, something like that. 551 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,100 Where I decide, you know what I can do this? 552 00:30:49,100 --> 00:30:51,300 I'm fat adapted. I'll bounce back, I'll be back. 553 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200 Back in Quito, in a couple days. But for the most part I am well 554 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,500 for the other 363 days a year on keto. 555 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,600 Yeah. So I'm lifting keto and, you 556 00:31:01,608 --> 00:31:05,100 know, I put on an inch through my upper arms last year. 557 00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:11,000 So to me, the people that say you can't gain muscle on keto or 558 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,300 you can't gain muscle over 50 or you can't gain muscle over 50 on 559 00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:17,800 keto. I think I've sort of become 560 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,500 proof that that's not true. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 561 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:21,300 Your proof that, that's not true. 562 00:31:21,500 --> 00:31:22,700 Is going to be people that say, yeah. 563 00:31:22,700 --> 00:31:25,200 But what is optimal? Like, you need to have carbs to 564 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,700 optimize muscle building. And what I have found is that, 565 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,500 you know, from a carbohydrate standpoint, you may put on a 566 00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:34,000 little bit more muscle, but then you're also going to put on more 567 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,300 body fat and then when you lean down for a competition, you're 568 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,900 going to lose a little bit more muscle than you are with a 569 00:31:39,908 --> 00:31:42,100 ketogenic diet. So at the end of the day, when 570 00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:46,100 you step onstage, the net result is not any more in favor of a 571 00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,000 carbohydrate base protocol. When it comes to building 572 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:49,500 muscle, that's been my personal experience. 573 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:54,000 Yeah I just I think I'll leave it there. 574 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,600 I think I'm you summed it up quite well. 575 00:31:55,900 --> 00:32:00,500 I've had nothing to add but yeah I think I mean for me I think 576 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:02,900 like I don't ever want to be dogmatic about attrition either. 577 00:32:02,900 --> 00:32:05,900 I don't ever want to say that my way or the highway like you have 578 00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,700 to do this in order to succeed, like people have been able to 579 00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,900 get lean build muscle, sustain, a healthy lifestyle with a 580 00:32:11,908 --> 00:32:15,900 variety of different types of diets, but for the people that 581 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:18,300 don't do well with carms for the people that are better 582 00:32:18,300 --> 00:32:20,600 eliminators, the moderators for the people that don't do well. 583 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,500 L hormonal e with a bunch of carbohydrates. 584 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,400 I want to be somebody that they can point to and say, hey look, 585 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,400 he's done and it's possible. I feel like that resonates with 586 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,900 me, let me do this. Let me have this lifestyle and 587 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:37,500 not feel like I'm less than or subpar sacrificing by, not 588 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:40,500 having the cars because that narrative is the main one that 589 00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:42,600 needs to be broken. The the idea that you can't 590 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,800 excel at a high rate and perform at a high level without 591 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,500 carbohydrates, because that's just not true. 592 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:54,000 Yeah, I agree 100%. So let's turn the conversation 593 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,600 slightly man when it comes to you and your channel and where 594 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:01,900 you're going to take things, I noticed in that video that you 595 00:33:01,900 --> 00:33:03,700 also have another YouTube channel. 596 00:33:05,100 --> 00:33:07,500 What was the motivation behind that like from a YouTube 597 00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,300 standpoint and this is something that I've kind of gone back and 598 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:12,200 forth with because I've got a YouTube channel that was 599 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,200 initially all ketogenic bodybuilding but now like we 600 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,700 have a nine-month-old son, so we're talking about parenting 601 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:19,400 We're talking about homesteading, going to get some 602 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,400 chickens. Like I've got office of random 603 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,200 stuff that is not ketogenic bodybuilding, but it's all part 604 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,400 of our life which is why we're trying to make this whole 605 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,800 inclusive live savage thing that umbrella encompasses at all. 606 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200 But like from a YouTube standpoint, I'm assuming you 607 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,900 found it more beneficial to have a separate Channel entirely than 608 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,900 separate playlist. So my other channel lean body 609 00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:46,600 mind was really the channel I wanted to do and I thought I'll 610 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:51,900 experiment on Kito because, you know, you got to start with one 611 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:53,900 or the other and I thought, I'll experiment with serious keto, 612 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:56,800 see what happens. Learn some skills, learn video 613 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,400 editing learn about cameras, things like that. 614 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,200 You know, to the extent that that I can I don't consider 615 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,100 myself a top-tier videographer or anything like that, but I 616 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,600 thought this is where I'll get my feet wet. 617 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,900 And then once I've got some experience, I'll start lean, 618 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:15,400 body mind, and I didn't expect serious. 619 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:19,500 Keto to take off the way it did. Lean body mind is more of my 620 00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:22,500 holistic channel. It's more where my interests 621 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,500 lie. First, you know, lean is sort of 622 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:29,699 to two meanings. One is just having a low body 623 00:34:29,699 --> 00:34:36,199 fat physique or having a not a lot of waste which draws upon my 624 00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,400 previous career in continuous Improvement. / process 625 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,900 Excellence where I spent 15 years as a lean Six Sigma Master 626 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:46,800 black belt. I was the lead trainer for GE 627 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:52,000 Healthcare. G Medical Systems GE Capital and 628 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:54,800 and then Cooper Power Systems for a while which is where, you 629 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:59,100 know, when I came down to your neck of the woods, but that 630 00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,900 process Improvement is always been a passion of mine, 631 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:05,400 especially how to incorporate this into your life 632 00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:09,700 holistically. So, physically diet airily, 633 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,800 that's word, emotionally spiritually. 634 00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:17,500 There's probably one other way. Just be more efficient in life 635 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:20,600 to get Get more out of life to remove some of the waste from 636 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:26,000 life to have flow in your life. So, you know, I've got a lot of 637 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,000 passion around, self-improvement Beyond just keto. 638 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,900 I love to meditate. I noticed as I was scrolling 639 00:35:33,900 --> 00:35:39,000 through your Savage site that you had Ryan holidays book. 640 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:41,800 Yeah, I love that book. So if it's too bad, we don't 641 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,800 have cameras on right now. Because I would show you out, 642 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,700 hold up right next to my desk here, I've got the daily stoic. 643 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:51,500 Next I'd assume printer 365. Meditations on wisdom, 644 00:35:51,900 --> 00:35:54,800 perseverance and the Art of Living and just every day, I'm 645 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,900 on my second pass through that. Every day I go through and I 646 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:03,400 read the, the one-page, the daily stoicism and every day, 647 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,500 even though I've already been through it. 648 00:36:04,500 --> 00:36:06,800 I feel like I'm I'm learning again. 649 00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:10,400 Yeah, I've got so many of these little 3M post. 650 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,300 It sign here. Stickers marking pages with 651 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,400 things that have been you know, really meaningful to me. 652 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:24,400 So I lean body mind is going to be all of that as well as I do 653 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,600 like reviewing products and either you know, telling people. 654 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,400 Hey this is great. I can endorse this particular 655 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:34,500 product, this supplement, this workout tool, you know, this 656 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,300 meditation, Matt, whatever it is. 657 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:39,900 Or I tried this for 30 days and this is hot garbage. 658 00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:42,600 I took the I took the hit so you don't have to. 659 00:36:43,300 --> 00:36:48,600 Yeah and I found that on He's kedo. 660 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:53,500 I was starting to kind of ease too much into this. 661 00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,800 You know, what? I had planned for lean body mind 662 00:36:56,100 --> 00:37:00,100 and I realized at that point, I needed to bifurcate and, and 663 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:04,700 create two separate channels. So that I didn't water down the 664 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:08,800 keto stuff that makes total sense for me. 665 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,700 Like, my YouTube channel is not near as large as your I think 666 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:12,600 mine's like 28,000 or something like that. 667 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:16,300 And I've done a lot of daily vlogging and with those it's 668 00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:19,400 just been like a bunch of randomness Anyways, so I don't 669 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,300 feel like, plus I don't make shit from YouTube. 670 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,500 I mean, it's like laughable what I make from YouTube. 671 00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,500 So if I make nothing, but it's all Under One Roof like that in 672 00:37:26,500 --> 00:37:30,600 my mind, flows more sensibly. But I totally get where you're 673 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,400 coming from and I think, honestly, that's exciting that 674 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,000 you're being able to dive deeper into that aspect the channel 675 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,100 because, you know, like I've got the very Ultra Nitschke, do 676 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:42,000 bodybuilding, you know, piece of content. 677 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,800 I'm always going to continue to add content there as I learned 678 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,900 more but I think like with live It sounds pretty similar to what 679 00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,300 you're trying to do with lean body mind. 680 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:56,000 And then there's there's so much more to an individual's life 681 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,900 than just the food they consume. And with, within the keto, space 682 00:37:58,900 --> 00:38:00,500 is very easy. Like, when you have a brand, 683 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:02,600 when you have a business, when you have a channel to really 684 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,200 become hyper focused on that one thing, and I think there is so 685 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,100 much to be said for going Ultra Niche. 686 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,900 But I think at a point, you don't want to do so at the 687 00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:15,900 exclusion of a holistic view of one's life and like, for me with 688 00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:18,700 live savage once once we start actually, Diving into that 689 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,800 putting content to, I've basically got a divided into 690 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,800 five primary pillars. The Five Pillars that most 691 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,200 people's lives can probably be defined as in some form of 692 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,900 fashion, like health wealth, relationships spirituality and 693 00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,200 self improvement. And I want to kind of like great 694 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,000 content around each of those five pillars. 695 00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:37,400 And that's what's got me really excited. 696 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,100 Like, I'm excited to learn how to become a better duck hunter, 697 00:38:41,100 --> 00:38:45,400 but then also make a wooden table, learning some new skills 698 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,800 that surrender for woodworking tools. 699 00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,600 But then also So how to best raise chickens and become a 700 00:38:50,607 --> 00:38:52,000 better. Homestead like all these things 701 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,300 that are not directly related to Quito in any form or fashion, 702 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:58,100 but all things that I think make me a better human being. 703 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,300 And I think there's a lot of value to that from two different 704 00:39:02,300 --> 00:39:05,100 aspects. One, when you are Ultra Niche 705 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,600 people, I think start to see, they don't see you so much as a 706 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:13,200 person anymore, is a character. You are, you know, keto guy, 707 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:18,900 Steve's your serious Steve and That then, you know, it's you 708 00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:21,500 might as well be a cartoon character or an actor or 709 00:39:21,500 --> 00:39:24,100 something like that because that's sort of what they see 710 00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:25,200 you. As they don't see you 711 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:32,000 holistically, they don't see you as a person and that's that's I 712 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,500 want to be a person. So that's that's one thing I 713 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,100 don't want to just be a character but the other thing 714 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:39,200 too is like an Investment Portfolio. 715 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:42,400 It pays to diversify. What if? 716 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,800 And this is a little bit of Steve's conspiracy theorist 717 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,800 sneaking out, what if big food, you know, one of the ten 718 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,600 companies that runs all of food decides, it's time to put their 719 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,700 foot on the throat of Quito and start pressuring YouTube. 720 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:03,900 To, you know, to shut keto down, because it's misinformation or, 721 00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:06,500 or whatever. It's good to have something else 722 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:08,400 to fall back on. Especially because this is my 723 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:15,100 job, this is, this is my income stream right here and if serious 724 00:40:15,100 --> 00:40:19,500 keto goes away, I need, I need someplace soft to land, right? 725 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,900 Yeah, no, I think that makes total sense, man. 726 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:24,800 I feel like one of my favorite, Tim Ferriss quotes is 727 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:29,800 specialization specialization is for insects be to come. 728 00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:34,100 Plex to categorize, I think that sums it up quite nicely like a 729 00:40:34,107 --> 00:40:37,800 few plus, I mean, you have you are a person, you have a lot 730 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,900 more to you than just recipes. So like for your audience that 731 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:46,400 want to know you, on a deeper level, been able to offer them 732 00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:49,300 that complex, you know, arrangement of all the things 733 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,500 that you're interested in is is rewarding for them and you 734 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:55,100 Absolutely. So on that note what are some 735 00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:57,000 things that you're excited to dive into? 736 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,900 I mean let's totally switch gears and I'm talking about 737 00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,000 Kita, what are some things that you're trying to put out in the 738 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,400 channel That that interest you that you haven't really been 739 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,800 able to pull the curtain back on prior to this point. 740 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,300 So on for lean body mind, I want to start getting into animated 741 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,900 explainer videos. You know you see things. 742 00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:17,100 I just it's something that I think would be a lot of fun. 743 00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:21,000 It appeals sort of the the creative child in me to create 744 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,000 animated videos. One of the things that I really 745 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:30,600 prided myself on back in my days as an instructor was taking some 746 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,400 of these complex Concepts within lean and Six Sigma and 747 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,700 especially statistical analytics and making them understandable 748 00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:45,700 to normal people and Using relevant, real world examples of 749 00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:49,800 visual management for example, and showing people just how easy 750 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,500 this stuff can be when someone explains it the right way. 751 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,300 And I think animated videos like that would help. 752 00:41:57,500 --> 00:42:02,000 I think that then also, it potentially opens up the 753 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,200 opportunity for me to do Consulting work. 754 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:09,200 Again, if somebody wants to hire me as a speaker or to come in 755 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,200 and do a lean assessment or something like that. 756 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,600 So there's there's multiple reasons for wanting to do 757 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:20,600 animated explainer videos with within Syria sceeto. 758 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:25,700 I think my big passion is just making people better Cooks. 759 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:29,100 Yeah. And showing them that there are 760 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:34,000 techniques that are applicable, whether you're keto or not, that 761 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,600 are going to serve you really well in Quito, especially when 762 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:41,600 it comes now to some of the food prices, how can you do things? 763 00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:43,300 I call it recipe. Sequencing. 764 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,600 So you make a recipe and then there's going to be leftovers. 765 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,300 What do you do with those leftovers or you make a recipe 766 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,000 and it calls for a certain ingredient? 767 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:53,700 Okay, well, now I got this ingredient. 768 00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:57,100 That's going to go bad on me, you know, within a couple of 769 00:42:57,100 --> 00:42:59,000 days. What's, what's on? 770 00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,700 Tuesdays menu? That I can follow this up with. 771 00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:06,600 So whether it's things like you know instead of buying boneless 772 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,100 skinless, chicken breasts at three and a half dollars a 773 00:43:09,107 --> 00:43:15,000 pound, go by bone-in skin-on for A buck twenty nine, a pound and 774 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,900 peel those skins off and throw them in your air fryer and eat 775 00:43:17,900 --> 00:43:22,300 them as snacks, slow cooker, pressure cooked, the you know, 776 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,900 the chicken and you know, whatever recipe it is or 777 00:43:24,900 --> 00:43:29,300 braised, it save those bones make some some chicken stock 778 00:43:29,500 --> 00:43:32,500 things like that where there's, you know, two three. 779 00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:36,200 Even four steps in a row or recipes in a row where you're 780 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,100 optimizing what you have for food and then kind of back to 781 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:40,200 your homesteading thing. All right. 782 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,200 Well now I got some scraps. What I do with these? 783 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,400 Well, Roman the composter, and you make, you know, the most 784 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,100 wonderful compost for your garden? 785 00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,200 Yeah. I think, looking at again, I'm 786 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,000 certainly not a chef by any stretch of the imagination, but 787 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:56,900 I appreciate people that prepare Foods in a way that is more 788 00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:59,300 holistic, in nature. Like, are you familiar with dr. 789 00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:03,400 Bill Schindler, I am not, he he's, he's great. 790 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,200 And he wrote a book called eat like a human. 791 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,300 He's anthropologists archaeologists, but he took him 792 00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:10,200 hunting this past year at my family farm. 793 00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:13,600 And, you know, we killed some deer and And he was out there 794 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,200 like, he processed the deer with us and he was using all the 795 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,500 organ meats and ways. I didn't even know was possible, 796 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,400 he was out there picking up, mushrooms that he knew were 797 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,500 edible off from the ground and making like a brown butter. 798 00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:29,000 Sauteed mushroom, like, you stood, all the stuff that made 799 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,400 like it just transformed the food that I'm used to eating but 800 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,000 in a totally different way. And I feel like when you when 801 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,100 you bring that kind of holistic nature from like literally an 802 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:41,700 animal that was walking just moments prior to some ornate 803 00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:45,800 dish that Satisfies, all your, you know, all of your Cravings, 804 00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,200 all the smells, all the taste, all the flavors, the textures, 805 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,800 like there's an art form to it for sure. 806 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,700 So for people that have that desire to lean into that and 807 00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:57,600 perfect that, I mean, hats off to you. 808 00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:02,200 Well, and the sad thing is so many people don't even know what 809 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,700 food is anymore. Yeah, because they shop in the 810 00:45:05,700 --> 00:45:09,600 nutritional Wasteland, that is the middle. 90% of a grocery 811 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,200 store, you know, they you have children, that can't identify an 812 00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:20,600 apple versus a tomato and it just, it's that that to me is 813 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,800 frustrating, you know, there's the fact that people have never 814 00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:29,200 had produce that was grown 15 feet from from where they live, 815 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,100 rather than 1,500 miles from where they live. 816 00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:34,300 Yeah. And it's just if there's such an 817 00:45:34,308 --> 00:45:36,800 incredible, incredible difference in it. 818 00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:40,900 So I mean I had thought there's been times I've toyed with doing 819 00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:44,500 a gardening Channel. But most of the time when I'm 820 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:49,000 gardening I'm just I'm, it's like a Zen thing for me. 821 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,600 I just I get into it. I lose track of everything else. 822 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,800 But getting dirt under my fingernails and to have to be 823 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,400 thinking about camera setups and stuff like that, I think would 824 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,300 take away the joy that I get out of gardening. 825 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,600 No, I totally agree, man. So, on that note, I'm at the 826 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:08,900 pick some homesteading questions from here with the gardening. 827 00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:11,000 What do you do? Like, do you have like a 828 00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,500 particular idea of a Large garden, small garden. 829 00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:16,200 What are you go to foods? Like I was in Tractor Supply, Co 830 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:19,300 the other day, looking at seeds and in my area. 831 00:46:19,300 --> 00:46:20,900 I need to start planning next month. 832 00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:23,500 Apparently, in April, I wish, I wish. 833 00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:25,000 I had that kind of growing window. 834 00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:27,500 What do I need to do? Man, get me started for Success 835 00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:31,700 here when it comes to gardening. So you do plan on, starting your 836 00:46:31,700 --> 00:46:36,400 seeds yourself like inside or to me, that's it. 837 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,900 That's what I'll do. All right, that the challenge 838 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:44,400 with that this this starts turning into a full Full full 839 00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:51,300 job or a full-time job, Growing Seeds, starting them yourself, 840 00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:54,100 you know, down in the basement with a grow light and, you know, 841 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,000 heating mat is cool. You know, because it's like all 842 00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,500 these are my babies and then you got to start gradually, 843 00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:02,100 transplanting them, you know, moving them to bigger and bigger 844 00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:04,400 pots. And suddenly, you realize, okay, 845 00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:08,600 this, this area that I had suddenly is 20% of what I 846 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:12,400 actually need because all my plants have gotten so big then. 847 00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:15,500 You got to go through the whole hardening off process because 848 00:47:15,500 --> 00:47:18,500 and I learned this my first year of gardening there, there, the 849 00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:20,100 plants are looking wonderful inside. 850 00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:24,200 You take them outside and they die within a day because they're 851 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,800 not ready to deal with real sunlight and wind and unstable 852 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,500 temperatures and things like that. 853 00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,400 So, you know, you need to go through the process of taking 854 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,100 them outside just for an hour and then bring them back inside 855 00:47:37,100 --> 00:47:38,500 next day. Maybe they get an hour and a 856 00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,600 half and, you know, gradually ramp them up until they can 857 00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:46,200 handle being out. side for a full day but for me if all my 858 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,600 seedlings are down in the basement I'm carrying you know 859 00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:52,300 eight trays of seedlings up the stairs and then back down the 860 00:47:52,300 --> 00:47:58,600 stairs and And then if something goes wrong and they die your 861 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,000 heart broken because it's your baby that does some good ole 862 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,400 time this man. As he is a man, it's the closest 863 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,800 I can come to giving birth. You know, these were, these are 864 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,900 my, you know, I nurtured these from from, from seed. 865 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,900 And now what I do is I'll just, uh, go to a farmers market. 866 00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:19,100 I'll let somebody else grow the seeds for me and, you know, I'd 867 00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:24,500 rather get it from them than some big commercial chain Garden 868 00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:27,900 Center. Or you know Home Depot or some 869 00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:30,200 place like that. I would rather have know that 870 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,400 someone else nurtured these and cared for these. 871 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,700 And you know then I'll then I'll take them. 872 00:48:34,900 --> 00:48:37,100 I do if you get out on the lean body mind I do. 873 00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:41,800 I did a little bit of a video blog of me, prepping my garden 874 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,600 and what all I do in terms of irrigation and all of that 875 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:47,600 stuff. So you can get out on to lean 876 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,100 body mind and check that out. Meanwhile, I'm going to be 877 00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:52,800 jealous of you because you've got chickens and I would love 878 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,800 chickens. I don't have them yet that that 879 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,800 will be something. We have soon in the past we've 880 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200 like my folks have always had a garden and you know when I was 881 00:49:00,207 --> 00:49:02,700 living with them like we'd help. I'd help him, you know, with the 882 00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:06,200 garden and we would just like, you know, till the ground, make 883 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,000 some rows Mound up the rows, then punch a bunch of seeds in 884 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,900 and that tend to work. Is that not the best way to do 885 00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:16,800 it? Mmm, it'll work at you but you 886 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,500 know, like like like all things is time goes on people, learn 887 00:49:20,500 --> 00:49:25,400 better and better methods and you know, so I run down so Air 888 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,900 hoses. And so I'm irrigating directly 889 00:49:28,900 --> 00:49:31,900 at the base of the plant. I don't want to lose water to 890 00:49:31,900 --> 00:49:34,600 evaporation. I don't want to risk any sort of 891 00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:39,800 fungal diseases by wetting down the leaves and then I lay down 892 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,100 what's called red reflective mulch. 893 00:49:42,100 --> 00:49:44,600 It's basically, like red plastic wrap. 894 00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:48,400 You lay that down on the ground and it does a few things, one 895 00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:51,700 you're supposed to get, I think 20 to 30% better yield because 896 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:55,300 it reflects the red sunlight, the red Rays back. 897 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,100 Up at the plan from underneath. So it's getting it from the top 898 00:49:58,100 --> 00:50:02,400 and the bottom, but also, then it just it makes a cleaner 899 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,600 Garden. It's just called terms of 900 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,600 demure, you know, I lay down, we'd tarp for my Pathways. 901 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,400 I raid lay down the red reflective mulch, where the 902 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:15,000 plants are you can you can walk through my garden, wearing a 903 00:50:15,008 --> 00:50:18,500 pair of white socks and you know, and they aren't going to 904 00:50:18,508 --> 00:50:22,200 get dirty with fruit drops off. It's not going to land in the 905 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,400 dirt. And, you know, potentially You 906 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,500 know, start getting moisture, hold on to some sort of disease, 907 00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:33,800 or, you know, whatever, whatever it may be, slugs, may show up 908 00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,400 it. It's great. 909 00:50:36,500 --> 00:50:38,500 I mean it's worked out very well for me. 910 00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:42,900 It's a little more work upfront, but it makes for a pretty 911 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,700 gorgeous Garden, huh? And you get video footage of 912 00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:48,300 your garden on that channel. Oh yeah, I'll definitely have to 913 00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:49,700 check that out and take some Nola. 914 00:50:49,900 --> 00:50:51,500 I can shoot you a link once we get done. 915 00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:53,000 I'll email it to you. Yeah. 916 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,400 Yeah. Because there were that's a few 917 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,500 the Savior the work I'm definitely but you would ask 918 00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,100 what I grow. I grow I grow stuff that 919 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:04,500 generally either. I can't get a grocery store or 920 00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:07,400 it's More cost-effective for me to grow. 921 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,700 I used to grow everything. I used to grow potatoes. 922 00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,100 There's no point in growing potatoes, really, especially now 923 00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:16,000 that I'm Kido, but even before, like, I can go out and get a 924 00:51:16,008 --> 00:51:18,600 five-pound bag of potatoes for two bucks. 925 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,200 Why do I want to spend months growing them, right? 926 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,900 Doesn't make sense. So, I tend to grow a lot of 927 00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,100 heirloom varieties of plants, you know, whether that's, you 928 00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:31,400 know, some really unique varieties of lettuce or 929 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:36,200 tomatoes, or I'm, I'm a total chili head. 930 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:40,400 So I love hot peppers of all varieties, so even though 931 00:51:40,500 --> 00:51:45,700 jalapenos aren't inexpensive pepper, I love them so much. 932 00:51:45,700 --> 00:51:48,500 I want I want to in my yard and I want to be able to grow them 933 00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:51,800 and harvest them and canem and Grill them and all of that 934 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,900 stuff. So there tends to be a pretty 935 00:51:53,900 --> 00:51:57,900 big focus on heirloom tomatoes and peppers and kind of anything 936 00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,600 that you might put in a typical keto salad. 937 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,800 I'd grow a lot of herbs as well because I love cooking with 938 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,500 fresh herbs. Yeah, I'm definitely going to 939 00:52:06,500 --> 00:52:09,000 have an emphasis on herbs and also Peppers. 940 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,800 Love It, habanero peppers. Just hot stuff in general. 941 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:14,900 So I'm definitely going to peppers in Arkansas. 942 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:17,700 Grow really, really well. So that should be pretty. 943 00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:19,600 It should be an easy stepping stone for me. 944 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,200 I don't think I can mess the peppers up to ban, I probably 945 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:24,400 can, but hopefully not the problem. 946 00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,900 Unfortunately, peppers are not prone to disease very much 947 00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:33,100 unlike heirloom tomatoes but The problem in Wisconsin is very 948 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,000 often on the really hot peppers. You know, if I'm doing ghost 949 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,100 peppers for example, right about the time. 950 00:52:39,100 --> 00:52:42,400 They're ready for Harvest. It's going to be the first Frost 951 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,600 of the year. Yeah. 952 00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:50,700 You know so very often our Frost window can be between Labor Day. 953 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,300 I'm sorry, Memorial Day and Labor Day. 954 00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:57,400 That's sort of like probably the safe area, but one year I had 955 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,500 everything planted on Memorial Day weekend and the Tuesday, 956 00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:04,300 after Memorial Day we had a frost and everything. 957 00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:06,600 I planted died. That's the worst man. 958 00:53:07,100 --> 00:53:08,900 Heartbreaking only gets this is June. 959 00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,100 What the hell is this? Why do I live here? 960 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:12,000 Have you ever played around with? 961 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,900 Like a greenhouse or polytunnel or anything? 962 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,400 I've done some of the mobile ones. 963 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,400 The problem is it's tremendously windy up here as well and unless 964 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:26,200 you plan on kind of screwing these things down you know into 965 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,200 your deck or something like that. 966 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,500 It's going to blow. And, and I don't, I, I would 967 00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:36,000 love to have this space. I would love to expand my house 968 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,100 and take what's currently deck and, you know, stretch that out 969 00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:44,900 maybe into a three Season room where I could, I could grow and, 970 00:53:44,900 --> 00:53:48,100 you know, the sunlight can come in and extend my growing window, 971 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,600 but that's not in the budget right now. 972 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:52,700 That would be cool, though. That would be cool. 973 00:53:52,700 --> 00:53:56,000 And one of my employees has a grow tint, like he's using it 974 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,400 for mushrooms. So we've been cooking lion's 975 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,400 mane for us and Blue, oyster, mushrooms and whatnot. 976 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,400 But that thing is incredibly efficient at just, you know, 977 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:08,200 having the perfect scenario for growing like the right humidity 978 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:10,000 level. He's got everything temperature 979 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:15,200 regulated so I could start seeds off with that pretty well, it's 980 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,000 just that hardening process. They were talking about earlier 981 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,900 that I might have a little trouble with yeah. 982 00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:23,600 It's the the issue is sort of the schedule. 983 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:28,900 You know, you're now at a point where you you need to be taken 984 00:54:28,900 --> 00:54:32,800 care of this every single day. Day and at that point, you know, 985 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,200 it's fun the first time, maybe but then you get to a point 986 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,700 where you're like, I'll just let somebody else do this for me. 987 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:41,600 Yeah, I'll let somebody else get the seaplane going and Harden it 988 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,900 off and I'll buy it at the farmers market and I'm good to 989 00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:46,600 go. Yeah, that makes those things. 990 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,000 I got to take care of it every single day out. 991 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,200 I might as well get a dog or something. 992 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,600 You know what I mean? You already got a baby and I 993 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:52,800 lost you need. Exactly. 994 00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:55,300 Exactly. Well, Steve, what does he get 995 00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:56,800 coming to Pai employment? What are you excited about is? 996 00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,700 Just round out this podcast with a with the what the future 997 00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:01,400 holds. Old for you, you get the chance, 998 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,500 well, apart from that. So you know this year is going 999 00:55:04,500 --> 00:55:06,400 to be an exciting year for me first. 1000 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:12,700 I think I look at 55 as sort of a bit of a landmark birthday and 1001 00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,100 I want to be in the best shape of my life. 1002 00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:17,000 Physically, spiritually emotionally. 1003 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,100 I, you know, I've been getting they're getting better. 1004 00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:22,700 I think every year. But you know, with last year 1005 00:55:22,700 --> 00:55:24,400 really kind of getting into strength training. 1006 00:55:24,500 --> 00:55:29,200 I want I want my body to be my moneymaker that age 55, you 1007 00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,300 know, To you. Look at the guy like Mark 1008 00:55:31,300 --> 00:55:33,200 Sisson, for example. I think he's 60. 1009 00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:36,500 Yeah, you know, if I'm doing, you know, start start making 1010 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:39,000 some thumbnails wearing a tank top and, you know, got some good 1011 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,500 guns going on, you know, that sells? 1012 00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,300 I mean it's clickbait. Yeah, I admit it and it's 1013 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,400 shallow, but hey, you know, why do you think so many people? 1014 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:51,000 Click on, delete our videos. He's not wearing a shirt and he 1015 00:55:51,008 --> 00:55:55,500 looks great. So, part of it is that the, the 1016 00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:59,400 whole on 55, I'd love to have people think I'm 35. 1017 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:05,900 But the other thing is, my son is getting married in August and 1018 00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:08,900 they're getting married in Hawaii and I just, I want to 1019 00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:12,200 look great for that as well. Especially with the shirt off. 1020 00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,600 Well, you can damn sure do man. I've got several plants that are 1021 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,200 50, 60, 70 years old, and a lot of have done a competition prep 1022 00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,000 because they just have that on their bucket list to do. 1023 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,400 And I've been amazed at seeing some of these 55 60 year, olds 1024 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:30,000 get freaking lean with a ketogenic diet so I think Think 1025 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,600 it's totally within reason totally doable. 1026 00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:35,200 So I mean by all means man freaking rock and roll. 1027 00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:38,800 Yeah, the the one the one thing I've struggled with is, you 1028 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:41,800 know, because you know like if you blow up a balloon and you 1029 00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:46,900 leave that balloon inflated for 20 years and then deflate it, 1030 00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:50,300 it's going to be saggy. Yeah, and you know, even though 1031 00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:55,000 I'm starting to see, you know, the shadow of a six-pack showing 1032 00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,700 up, have got this deflated Tire kind of hanging around. 1033 00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:01,600 My belly button just hanging there. 1034 00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,800 It's just it's so gross. I hate it. 1035 00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:07,500 You know? And it just for years it's been 1036 00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:09,600 four years in the thing isn't going away. 1037 00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:13,600 Yeah, means a tough one man. Like there's different opinions 1038 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,500 of thought on that. Like some people just doesn't 1039 00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:18,600 let doesn't bother them. They wear it like a badge of 1040 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,800 honor like hey look this is this showcase. 1041 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,500 How far I've come which I think is a really healthy way to look 1042 00:57:23,500 --> 00:57:25,800 at it. Some people they hate it so they 1043 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,800 get like skin removal surgery. No shame there either. 1044 00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,600 And And it's just hard to get it to go away. 1045 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,200 I mean you can build more muscle to fill that void but if you 1046 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,100 have a ton of loose skin there's not really any you know, 1047 00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:42,900 miraculous thing that you can do or eat or, you know, no amount 1048 00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:46,000 of, you know, cold plunging are saunas, going to remove it 1049 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,200 entirely. Yeah, it's one thing if you got 1050 00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,400 some loose skin on your arms. I mean I try filling that up 1051 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,700 with some muscle but there's not a lot of like muscle. 1052 00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:56,800 You're going to add around the love handles and you know the 1053 00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,400 girdle there. Yeah. 1054 00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,600 That's mostly where you want to be. 1055 00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,900 Rid of stuff. And my wife works at a plastic 1056 00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:07,100 surgery center and I've toyed with the idea of having some 1057 00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:09,900 skin removal, but then, you know, she says, oh you're well 1058 00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:13,400 you're going to have to wear like an actual great girdle type 1059 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,600 brace for. I don't know how many weeks and 1060 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,300 no no more exercise for eight weeks. 1061 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,800 Mike I don't like the sound of that. 1062 00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:24,300 Yeah it doesn't sound like awesome. 1063 00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,700 I think the best way to look at a man is like make the rest of 1064 00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:29,700 your physique. So freaking impressive that when 1065 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,900 you're anybody's looking at you, they're drawn to all of those 1066 00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:33,700 areas instead of the little bit of loose skin around your 1067 00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:36,900 midsection That's, uh, that's a good idea. 1068 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,700 I've also thought about maybe just getting a tattoo of a 1069 00:58:39,900 --> 00:58:44,200 six-pack abs, you know, that way I can just, you know, you could 1070 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:48,000 do that for sure. Well, Steve man, I thoroughly 1071 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,700 enjoyed the conversation. Where do people go to follow 1072 00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:52,900 with along with you on your YouTube channel? 1073 00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:54,400 There's two of them. Serious keto? 1074 00:58:54,700 --> 00:58:58,700 And I just drew a blank. It's lean body mind. 1075 00:58:58,700 --> 00:58:59,800 Yeah. Lean Body Mind. 1076 00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:02,700 Where else? Yeah, yeah, I don't do a whole 1077 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:06,400 lot else on social media just because I mean, I've got, I've 1078 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,000 got an Instagram account. I post not very regularly to it. 1079 00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,200 I've got a Facebook account. I think the last recipe I posted 1080 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:17,400 on that was July of last year. It's just it is difficult to 1081 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:22,500 manage so many different aspects of social media that I just I 1082 00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:27,100 put really all of my focus on to Syria sceeto.com and the serious 1083 00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:32,200 keto YouTube site and lean body mind on YouTube is just to do 1084 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:35,000 more than that is hard. Yeah no, I totally get him in 1085 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,400 there. So many about medium. 1086 00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,300 I would tell people don't you maybe don't watch my Kido brick 1087 00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:42,900 review. Hey, that key tobruk. 1088 00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:45,600 Have you brought us together. So even if it was not a Stellar 1089 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,500 review, we're having a great conversation. 1090 00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:51,700 So, in my mind, it was all worth it and not to be a suck-up, but 1091 00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:55,000 they're starting to grow on me to the point that, you know, 1092 00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:58,100 especially after lifting. Like that's all I want to eat. 1093 00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,100 I'm not in the mood for a protein shake. 1094 01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:04,100 I want I want to Quito bricks so I'm glad that you sent me some 1095 01:00:04,100 --> 01:00:06,100 more. Likely. 1096 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:10,300 Well not just likely, there will be a part to review sort of a 1097 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:14,800 Steve has changed his opinion. Which you know, it wouldn't be 1098 01:00:14,808 --> 01:00:16,700 the first time I've changed my opinion initially. 1099 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:20,800 I didn't like keto chow and I developed, I have now developed 1100 01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:24,100 the fastest selling new flavor of Quito Chow in their history. 1101 01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,100 So, well, let me ask you this the, the whole reason I wanted 1102 01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:30,600 to send you. Some, some bricks personally is 1103 01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,500 because it seemed as though, the bricks that you had received 1104 01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:37,000 from one of your listeners or viewers, Were probably a pretty 1105 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,200 old batch of bricks that may have been sitting in their car 1106 01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:43,100 for 15 weeks, Milton and reharden in, which is going to 1107 01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:45,400 negatively impact the flavor. I'm assuming the ones that we 1108 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,500 sent tasted and had a different texture all together, right? 1109 01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,700 I haven't gotten the ones that you sent me yet because I wanted 1110 01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:54,000 to the ones that I had sampled for the video. 1111 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,200 I wanted to finish kind of get through them. 1112 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,700 I really do need to do and I as I was eating one of those today, 1113 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,400 I thought, oh my gosh, he's going to ask me. 1114 01:01:04,408 --> 01:01:05,900 He's going to ask me how I knew. Bricks. 1115 01:01:05,900 --> 01:01:07,900 And I'm not going to have an answer for him because I haven't 1116 01:01:07,900 --> 01:01:11,300 tried them yet. Hey, I will tell you that one of 1117 01:01:11,308 --> 01:01:15,800 the ones that we had sampled in the video, I had the other day. 1118 01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,500 The chocolate peanut butter cup or peanut butter, chocolate cup, 1119 01:01:18,500 --> 01:01:23,000 or something like that. And I loved it. 1120 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:26,900 I'm just like, wow, what the hell did I eat in that video? 1121 01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:29,500 That I didn't like, because this is really good. 1122 01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:31,800 This strange thing you can tell me if this is the case on the 1123 01:01:31,808 --> 01:01:36,600 texture of all the bars. Or if it's just a fault of these 1124 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:41,500 being maybe a little bit older, there's something odd the first 1125 01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:44,300 time you have them in terms of mouthfeel because it doesn't 1126 01:01:44,300 --> 01:01:47,200 stick to your teeth. It depends what you think about 1127 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:49,500 her. Anything you eat in the world, 1128 01:01:49,500 --> 01:01:51,800 it adheres a little bit to your teeth. 1129 01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:53,000 Yeah. You know, it's going to require 1130 01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,100 a little saliva. It's going to Tire require you 1131 01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:58,100 to kind of like your teeth off to you know get it off. 1132 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:01,500 I don't care what it is. Everything kind of sticks to 1133 01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:05,200 your teeth a little bit. The keto brick seems to it's 1134 01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,100 like the equivalent of soft water. 1135 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:10,000 It just it does it rolls right off? 1136 01:02:10,900 --> 01:02:14,900 Well, the the way based bricks The Way Way in general, has a 1137 01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:18,800 stickier nature to it than the plant-based plant-based protein 1138 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:20,000 that we use in some of the other bricks. 1139 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,700 So the way bricks I find to be A bit more, stickier for sure. 1140 01:02:24,900 --> 01:02:29,100 But the bricks that are that are so they are shelf-stable, you 1141 01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:30,200 know. Like if you have them at room 1142 01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:31,900 temperature, that will be totally fine to eat. 1143 01:02:31,900 --> 01:02:34,400 But for me and when I try and recommend to everybody that eats 1144 01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,500 them as if you're going to store them for extended periods of 1145 01:02:36,508 --> 01:02:40,400 time, like months on end, then keep them cold because they will 1146 01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,300 retain their freshness for longer. 1147 01:02:43,300 --> 01:02:46,200 And, you know, like, if you have a brick that has melted, Andre 1148 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,200 horned multiple times and Transit. 1149 01:02:48,500 --> 01:02:51,500 Like the the ingredients are going to separate, they're going 1150 01:02:51,500 --> 01:02:52,500 to resolidify. Science. 1151 01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:54,700 Cow butter is the main ingredient and that tempers. 1152 01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:58,200 So, you know, if you mess up the tempering of the cacao butter, 1153 01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,100 it's not going to taste as well either. 1154 01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,500 So that's why I wanted to send you some fresh bricks. 1155 01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:05,800 I mean, you may still not like them but I wanted you to have an 1156 01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,900 accurate representation of an actual brick that is, you know, 1157 01:03:08,900 --> 01:03:11,600 in the right condition. So hopefully you like the new 1158 01:03:11,600 --> 01:03:14,800 ones but it should have a much different texture than the ones 1159 01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,700 that you had received. And honestly the temperature has 1160 01:03:17,700 --> 01:03:20,500 a massive impact on Textures. Well, I mean we don't put 1161 01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:23,500 preservatives in there, we don't put A binder filler ingredients 1162 01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:24,800 in there that most other bars do. 1163 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,500 So if you get a brick in Wisconsin's four degrees 1164 01:03:27,500 --> 01:03:29,400 outside, it's going to be a frozen brick. 1165 01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:32,100 If you get a break that's, you know, in the summertime, it's 1166 01:03:32,100 --> 01:03:33,400 going to be much softer and nature. 1167 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,200 So it really kind of depends on what the ambient temperature is. 1168 01:03:37,300 --> 01:03:40,700 Well, I figured if I went to the new bricks and then love them, 1169 01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:44,200 it would be hard to go back to the ones that had been sent to 1170 01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,200 me very. And since I'm really, really 1171 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:48,900 opposed to any sort of food waste, I thought. 1172 01:03:48,900 --> 01:03:50,200 Okay, I'm just gonna tough it up, I don't know. 1173 01:03:50,207 --> 01:03:52,000 I'm going to work through all of these older bar. 1174 01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:53,600 Ours. And then I'm going to move on to 1175 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,100 the new stuff but I'll let you know the moment that I do. 1176 01:03:57,300 --> 01:03:59,900 Well if I was you I appreciate not wanting food waste. 1177 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,200 I mean, that that's very admirable and also don't like 1178 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,400 throwing away any food but I would, I would highly encourage 1179 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,600 you to put the other ones in the compost pile. 1180 01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,200 If they have, in fact been melting a reharden a million 1181 01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,700 times and then just eat the new ones and I'll make sure your 1182 01:04:13,700 --> 01:04:15,200 stocked up there if you like them. 1183 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,400 All right. Well, you can tell that they 1184 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:23,100 have melted it's when they've got sort of the Alized rapper 1185 01:04:23,100 --> 01:04:25,900 looking marks on it. Those were definitely melted. 1186 01:04:25,900 --> 01:04:28,700 Like I could see in the thumbnail video that it had 1187 01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:31,600 definitely melt into reharden which is just I mean kudos to 1188 01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:32,700 that guy for sending you some bricks. 1189 01:04:32,700 --> 01:04:35,300 That's awesome of him. But like I want you to be able 1190 01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:37,000 to taste an accurate break. If you're going to do a review 1191 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,600 on it for sure. Well you you have my word as a 1192 01:04:39,607 --> 01:04:42,600 gentleman it will happen soon. What? 1193 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,900 Shoot, man all that to say, you know, even if it doesn't happen 1194 01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:49,000 I appreciate the fact that somebody sent me your review 1195 01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:51,900 video and I got in touch with you. 1196 01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:55,300 And now, we're having this podcast so interesting turn of 1197 01:04:55,300 --> 01:04:57,000 events for sure, which I appreciate. 1198 01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,600 And certainly, it seems that we share a lot of similar 1199 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,600 interests. So this may be the beginning of 1200 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:06,300 a something a tell whether it's whether it's collaborating on 1201 01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:10,100 lean body mind or on, you know, if you, if you decide to go down 1202 01:05:10,100 --> 01:05:14,500 that more holistic site, I think, I think we have a lot of 1203 01:05:14,500 --> 01:05:17,400 similar interests. There could be some some guests 1204 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,200 opportunities for each of us. Well, I'm all for it and I will 1205 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,300 most certainly be picking your brain for More gardening tips as 1206 01:05:23,300 --> 01:05:24,800 we stored our garden here. A few months. 1207 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,500 Awesome. I look forward to it. 1208 01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:27,800 Appreciate Steve. Thanks again, man. 1209 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:29,200 All right. Thank you, Robert. 1210 01:05:29,300 --> 01:05:29,700 Take care.