1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Well, hello ladies and gents. Robert Sykes, Keto, savage.com. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:06,080 And today I've got special guest Rome on the podcast Rome and I 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,039 got connected through a mutual friend. 4 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,480 He's got a very inspiring story. He was diagnosed with type 2 5 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:14,680 diabetes, he gained a bunch of weight early on in high school 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,160 for playing college ball, and he just totally transformed his 7 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:20,480 health. He adopted A ketogenic 8 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:21,600 lifestyle. He's lost. 9 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,640 He's lost that weight. He's gotten off all of his 10 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,600 medications, saved a ton of money not having to pay for 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,440 those medications. He has better quality time with 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,600 his daughter. He's totally turned his health 13 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,000 around and adopted a new lens of which to look through life. 14 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,360 And that's what I'm all about, bringing people on with 15 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,920 inspiring stories that have made the switch, that have taken the 16 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,480 initiative and then are putting in the work. 17 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:45,360 So that's what this conversation is all about, a little back 18 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,800 story on Rome and how he's made a change for the better. 19 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,080 I've got no doubt that you will take something from it. 20 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:54,480 So that further ado, sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast 21 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,440 and we are live Rome. How are you brother? 22 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,720 I'm doing very well. How are you? 23 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:10,240 I'm good man. I'm good. 24 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,360 So just to give the listeners some context here, this is the 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,320 first time you and I have actually spoken. 26 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:18,720 We have a mutual friend, Michael Dennehy, who is a client and 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,680 hunting partner of mine. And he was singing his singing 28 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,360 Your Praises on his way back from his last hunting trip, 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,800 talking about how you've totally turned your life around, getting 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,440 your nutrition dialed in. So I'm just excited to chat with 31 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:31,920 you, man. Excited to learn more about your 32 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,760 story. Yes, this is the first time we 33 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,080 were talking. And yeah, I'm excited to share 34 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 and get into this experience. Out of curiosity, how? 35 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:42,960 How did you and Michael get connected? 36 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:47,960 We, he was the communication director at the National 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Infantry Museum and I was working freelance, doing the 38 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,400 Army, live streaming the graduations. 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:01,040 And then I was in the market for a job and from there I applied 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,040 and then I talked to Michael and he hired me on to do their 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,320 social media management and the graduations from the Infantry 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:09,600 Museum side. So that's how our relationship 43 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,600 really started. Very cool. 44 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,200 Yeah. I'm I'm super impressed by 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,840 Michael he, I've had them on the podcast before but I'm really 46 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,640 appreciative towards his involvement in the infantry 47 00:02:19,640 --> 00:02:23,040 Museum and just what he's trying to do in the space too. 48 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,400 I mean like he's he's brought a lot of people to Keto. 49 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,840 He he did a an internship with White Oak Pastures, Will Harris 50 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,200 and he connected me to them. So he's kind of one of those 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:35,320 connector guys, which I really appreciate. 52 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Oh yeah, he definitely is. Cuz once he he's already an 53 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:43,120 impressive specimen himself when you first meet him. 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,520 But then when I got to know him and he took me and taught me 55 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,160 about his keto journey, then you know, I was even that more 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,120 intrigued about it. A. 100% man. 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,440 So give me some back story. You were playing football and 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,240 and you were overweight in your prior life, right? 59 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,200 Yes. I'm born and raised in the 60 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:06,840 South, so Southern cuisine, home cooking is not a stranger to me. 61 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:09,880 It was comfort food and I took a lot of comfort in it. 62 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,120 And in high school I played football, football. 63 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,120 I'm 65 and I was that size in high school. 64 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,920 I was like a sophomore. So I attracted the football team 65 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:24,440 and wanted to play and my weight was always in the three hundreds 66 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:29,360 and it started to slip out of control up until the the lower 67 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,520 three 50s. And I knew I had to make a 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,800 change. And by senior year of high 69 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,000 school I was actually diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:44,000 So back then my doctor told me the most important sentence that 71 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:45,960 I think a doctor can ever tell you. 72 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,440 It scared the bejesus out of me. He was like lose weight or die. 73 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:55,800 So I took that information and I let my mom control my dad at the 74 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,840 time because, you know, teenagers don't really have a 75 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,600 way to get out and get your food and anything like that. 76 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,440 But I was just sneaking food and eating it. 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,960 So I stuck with what she wanted me to eat and it was kind of 78 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,000 like I was doing keto before I even knew what keto was. 79 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,440 Back then I was only 17 and this was 2000, the year the year 80 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:23,480 2000, 2001, and I lost 100 lbs. But since then I had balloon 81 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,120 back up, back and forth like many people's stories and we 82 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:34,000 Fast forward until about October of 2022. 83 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:40,280 Yes. And as you said earlier a a 84 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,600 friend of ours for both of us share Michael Denning. 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,200 He he was doing his keto journey and I was intrigued by what he 86 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,720 was doing in the nutritional facts that he was talking about 87 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,400 and the lifestyle. So I said I'm going to give this 88 00:04:55,400 --> 00:05:00,800 a try. So since October of 2022, I 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:05,440 started not I wasn't going by a rule book, so to speak, so I 90 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:10,160 wasn't like precise on kilo. I was just trying to cut out any 91 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,920 carbs. I limited my carbs as much as 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,280 possible because that what raises your blood sugar, 93 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,120 especially in my case being a type 2 diabetic. 94 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,320 So I was trying to eat mostly lean protein sources and 95 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:25,560 vegetables, and I would walk at work at least two to five miles 96 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,800 a day. Nice, nice. 97 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,640 When you were kind of rewinding the clock back when you were in 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:35,320 high school, when you were gaining this weight, did you 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,760 know that it was because the amount of food you were eating, 100 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:39,840 the types of food you were eating? 101 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,120 Like, where was your headspace at at that point? 102 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,880 My headspace was like, I think many of people who are 103 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,120 overweight. And I was just seeking comfort. 104 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:54,400 I was eating not because I was hungry, not for nutrition, not 105 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,880 to gain strength and be able to, you know, lift heavy weights in 106 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,680 the weight room. I was eating because it was 107 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:02,480 convenient. It made me feel good. 108 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,400 It was the place where I wasn't judged. 109 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,760 You know, you go through all your social problems as a 110 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,440 teenager and, you know, you might go through a bout of 111 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,520 depression. So the food was there to comfort 112 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,000 me. That was my one vice that I've 113 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,800 had pretty much my whole life. The food, the comfort that food 114 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,320 gives you. So I was eating out of habit, 115 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:26,040 out of emotional need, and that what led me to way so much. 116 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,480 Even though I was going to football practice, I was lifting 117 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,080 weights. I was doing everything that 118 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,840 people do and you attribute to a healthy lifestyle. 119 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:38,960 I was just completely eating more food than a single 120 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:41,240 individual needed. And I I didn't know anything 121 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:45,600 about watching my calories or thinking about serving sizes. 122 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,440 I was just eating everything. It's like. 123 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,400 So like all kinds of foods, I was mostly fast food or home 124 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,680 cooked foods or what was the the main main ticket at them? 125 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,880 All of it. Wherever I can get my hands on. 126 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,000 I was eating lunch. I was eating them because my 127 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:03,800 grandma lived not too far from my mom's house. 128 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,080 So I would eat at grandma's house and grandma would give you 129 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:08,720 whatever you want because you're grandma's baby. 130 00:07:09,280 --> 00:07:11,240 And then I would go home and eat. 131 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:14,080 So I was eating 2 dinners sometime 2 lunches or two 132 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,160 breakfasts. I would also eat fast food. 133 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,520 Once I got a license and I had a small job, so I had some money. 134 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:27,920 I would sometimes I would just to be full clarity you. 135 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:34,240 I would go to Burger King and I would buy two or three double 136 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:39,320 walkers with extra cheese and I would go somewhere and eat it. 137 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,000 Not and I wasn't even hungry. It was just impulse. 138 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Just I was out of control. I I just wanted to. 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,200 Any pain I felt, I covered it up with food. 140 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,480 So I was eating everything and saying I can eat a whole pan of 141 00:07:54,640 --> 00:08:00,000 Turkey and dressing by myself. It's just I was, I was a monster 142 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,720 when it come to food. And at that point in your life, 143 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:04,880 I mean, how old do you know, if you don't mind me asking? 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,920 I'm 40. I just turned 40 in spring of 145 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,040 this year. OK, so at that point, high 146 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,240 school years, I mean, you're you're not probably well versed 147 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,480 in macros and how carbohydrates impact your blood sugar versus 148 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,560 that of proteins and dietary fats. 149 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,800 So like when you're eating these foods, do you like think to 150 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,880 yourself, man, this is an unhealthy food choice or it's 151 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,400 just totally food? There's not really a health or 152 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:31,200 unhealth to it. I'm just eating too much of it. 153 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,679 I didn't know anything about. I mean, we were teaching, they 154 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:36,880 were teaching it to us in school, but I wasn't really 155 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,159 paying attention to it, especially not to the level I am 156 00:08:39,159 --> 00:08:41,960 now. I was, I knew what carbs and fat 157 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,520 and everything was, but I was just eating to enjoy it. 158 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,880 So I wasn't really thinking about what I was putting in my 159 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,640 body. I was just enjoying the food. 160 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Were you beating yourself up at all four year weight or was that 161 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:58,680 kind of just a an afterthought? Yeah, it was kind of the the 162 00:08:58,680 --> 00:09:01,760 vicious cycle that people talk about is you get depressed. 163 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,800 So, you know in your social life, things happening or, you 164 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,800 know, being a teenager, you have emotions. 165 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,200 And so you I was eating to try to make me feel better and then 166 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,200 you get overweight and then you feel bad for being overweight, 167 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,000 so then you eat more because that's what you go to for 168 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:21,840 comfort. So it just becomes the vicious 169 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,200 cycle that we all always talk about. 170 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:27,920 So it was just constantly, my life was constantly revolving 171 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,480 around eating. Yeah. 172 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:32,320 And then when your mom took over the reins and was kind of 173 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:34,560 mitigating what you were and we're not eating, and you lost 174 00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:38,720 100 lbs and you gained it back, had that kind of shift your 175 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,360 mentality. Well, I was trying to get into 176 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:44,240 playing college football. I was. 177 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:48,360 My school wasn't known for football, but with my size I was 178 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,920 attracting attention. And when I lost that much weight 179 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,400 my senior year, you know, coaches telling you you're going 180 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,040 to scare off all the people who are interested in you playing 181 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,680 college football because y'all think something's wrong with 182 00:09:57,680 --> 00:09:59,360 you. And I mean, I was, I didn't have 183 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:04,360 like a illness where I couldn't play football, but I did need to 184 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:09,120 look after my health better. And so my mom took over. 185 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,000 She was it was mostly portion size because I would not go back 186 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:15,720 in the kitchen and eat anything after she gave it to me. 187 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,840 She'll make my plate and then so I will eat it. 188 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,520 I was still eating Southern foods, but my portions and 189 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:26,200 calories were dropped significantly based from when I 190 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,680 was controlling my own diet. And to cope with that, if I was 191 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:33,280 drinking mostly water, I stopped drinking sodas. 192 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,440 I didn't even drink sweet tea, so I tried. 193 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,840 I was drinking a gallon of water at least a day and let my mom 194 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,800 control my foods. I was unhealthily skipping lunch 195 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,040 at school because I was obsessed at that point with trying to 196 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:51,080 lose weight. And so if I got hungry, I would 197 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,080 go to sleep. And I learned that that helped 198 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,400 me kind of reprogram myself because I had to break the 199 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,680 habits. I didn't know what I was doing 200 00:10:57,680 --> 00:11:01,000 at the time, but I had to break my mental habits and the way my 201 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:05,880 body was working to get a new lifestyle because my body's 202 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,000 telling y'all, you're starving, we need to eat. 203 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,000 And that's because I was programmed to overeat. 204 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:17,280 So once I got adjusted to eating health more healthy and the 205 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 football practice and weight lifting kind of like took his 206 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,720 natural course with me dropping the weight so fast because I was 207 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,120 doing that stuff. But now I had nutrition behind 208 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,560 it. And so when I went off to 209 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:30,160 college, before I went to college, I tried to gain some of 210 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,480 the weight back. So I stopped eating the way I 211 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,600 was eating. I started trying to put back on 212 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:40,640 pounds and that's I hurt my neck the end of the season in my high 213 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,320 school career and that affected me into college. 214 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,520 I couldn't get cleared by the doctors to get on the field. 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,280 And so that story goes, you know, I just went back slowly to 216 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:55,320 my old lifestyle and I stayed that way pretty much ever since 217 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,680 when I gave up my football dream until recently. 218 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:04,240 And I got back up to probably I was in anywhere between 295 and 219 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:10,160 3:15 from that point until now. And what were you doing to 220 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,320 manage the diabetes throughout those years? 221 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,600 I mean, were you still going to like a diabetes clinic? 222 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,480 Were you were you taking any type of dietary precautions for 223 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,040 the diabetes or were you using insulin like how? 224 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,200 How did that shape up? I was initially. 225 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,240 Since it's type 2 and my body makes the insulin, it just 226 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,680 doesn't use it properly. I was on the pill, so I was 227 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:34,760 managing it that way, but I was, I was not at all paying 228 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,400 attention and trying to keep what was going into my mouth. 229 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,920 I was just taking the pill and using that and checking my blood 230 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,880 sugars to basically allow me to eat what I wanted to eat, within 231 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:51,240 reason. And as it progressed, my health, 232 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,040 I had high blood pressure. They were watching for 233 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:58,080 cholesterol. You know, all of the things that 234 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,880 come with overeating that are also complicated by diabetes. 235 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,840 So within the last five years, if my diabetes and my health 236 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:10,760 progressed to the point where I had to take more medication, 237 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,360 they put me on the insulin shot, a long term insulin shot and the 238 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,240 short term insulin shot that you take with meals to keep your 239 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:22,000 blood sugar down. And with the medication I was 240 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,960 taking, realistically, I mean, I could eat what I wanted to eat 241 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:29,520 and keep my blood sugar down, which I took advantage of for a 242 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,280 long time. But I was not happy with myself. 243 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,400 I looked in the mirror. I didn't like what I what I saw. 244 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:41,680 But at the time, I was in a relationship, so I was kind of 245 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:44,040 comfortable in the relationship. We accepted each other. 246 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,640 So I really had nothing in my life that made me say you need 247 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,040 to change now. Like nothing new or, you know, I 248 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,320 I had a daughter. I have a daughter and you know 249 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,760 your kids are going to love you regardless. 250 00:13:56,760 --> 00:14:02,640 So I was, it really came to a gut check moment when I was 251 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,320 hired at National Infantry Museum by Michael. 252 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,360 And I saw him in his lifestyle. And I was, you know, it's time 253 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,200 for a change. I got fed up with myself. 254 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,760 I saw myself in some pictures that I had just taken. 255 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:21,480 I met a Medal of Honor recipient, and I was like stoked 256 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,120 to take a picture with him. This the, this hero I'm taking a 257 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:26,720 picture with. And then I looked at the picture 258 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,920 and I said, I don't even recognize myself anymore. 259 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,200 Like, who is this person? I don't want to look like this. 260 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:37,640 And so I made the decision to change for the better. 261 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:43,600 And that's when I started adopting A keto style nutrition 262 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,360 program that I was doing myself. I wasn't like following any 263 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,280 coaching or technically the doctor's rule that I was doing 264 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,160 it on my own to try to make my life better. 265 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,080 And so here we are now. When you were going to the 266 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,960 doctors for the diabetes, were they talking to you about 267 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,400 nutrition or was it pretty much just a conversation around the 268 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,920 medication? They were talking to me about 269 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,040 nutrition. I mean the medication allows 270 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,080 just like I think it's I don't want to call it epidemic, but 271 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,560 you see those epic shots and everything that people are 272 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,840 taking. It allows you to eat what you 273 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:23,760 want and it doesn't hardcore affect your health at in the 274 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,720 short term. I mean, you have long term 275 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:29,520 effects, but you are allowed to eat what you want and take the 276 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,160 medication and the medication kind of helps you. 277 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,720 And so they were talking about that. 278 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,240 I was taking all the different medicines and different 279 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:40,800 cocktails of diabetes medications and they always tell 280 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,280 you warn you you need to just lay off the red meat for my 281 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:46,160 cholesterol. You need to lay off of this. 282 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:50,840 But it wasn't as strict as it was when I was 17 and I had that 283 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:53,920 first doctor and he was told me he was a little bit more. 284 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,280 He didn't have the bedside manners doctors have nowadays. 285 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,560 He was like, lose weight or die. I really need to hear that 286 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,720 again. But the doctors I had were more 287 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:09,160 kind of like just saying warnings, you know, you, you 288 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,560 need to do this. You need to do that. 289 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,480 But it wasn't anybody stopped me because I was grown man, you 290 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,320 know, at this point. So I really do what I wanted. 291 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,920 And getting much push back from your extended family like that 292 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,160 they they use being unhealthy and trying to get you to change 293 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:26,440 course or were they pretty pretty low key on that as well? 294 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Pretty low key. I had nobody. 295 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:35,040 I didn't have that person that was willing to hurt feelings or 296 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,480 technically put the the friendship in rough terms to 297 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,360 say, hey, you need to change. I can't keep watching you do 298 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:44,440 this. You're killing yourself. 299 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:47,760 I didn't have anybody to really say that to me. 300 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,480 So it was all up to me because my doctors weren't being that 301 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:51,600 hardcore. Me either. 302 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:57,040 But the the medication, how I was feeling, the inspiration I 303 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,480 got from Michael and also how it was affecting my pocket because 304 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,400 the medicine is not cheap even on insurance. 305 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:06,079 And I was getting tired of paying for this medication. 306 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:12,119 And I took kind of an extreme take when I started the keto 307 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:17,640 style lifestyle that I have now. I I made my own prescription 308 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:22,200 drug rules. I wasn't taking it like they 309 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:23,960 prescribed because I didn't think I needed that much. 310 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,240 Because as soon as I changed my eating habits, I'd no longer 311 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,560 needed as much medication I was taking. 312 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,960 Because when you eat less and you take diabetes medication, it 313 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,240 can really mess up your stomach if you don't have enough food. 314 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:42,120 The medicine is that strong. So I was having stomach issues 315 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,200 because I wasn't. I was eating regular food, like 316 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,200 the regular amount, and the medicine was too strong. 317 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,160 So I was getting sick. So I was like, I need to stop 318 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,680 taking so much medication. So I made that decision on my 319 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:54,280 own. And when I finally went back to 320 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,880 the doctor, you know, they look at the results and they're like, 321 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:58,760 oh, you, you're looking great. What are you doing? 322 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Doing like, well, you, what changes have you made? 323 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,360 So they were interested in it because I was also part of a 324 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:09,000 diabetic study that they would send me the supplies for free 325 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,120 and I would just have to answer questions like in the three 326 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:15,840 months, six months, nine month interval and they were studying 327 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:18,400 me in the the new medications that I was taking. 328 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Gotcha, Gotcha. So when you started doing Keto 329 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:25,680 in 2022, I mean, Keto's been pretty well popularized for 330 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,680 several years now. When you jumped into the space 331 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,720 and started digging into information to figure out how to 332 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,360 go about it, were you overwhelmed? 333 00:18:32,360 --> 00:18:34,160 And there's a lot of conflicting information now. 334 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:35,880 Like what? What did you find as a good 335 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:39,240 resource and kind of how did you structure that dietary program? 336 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,560 I based it. I asked questions of Michael a 337 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,240 lot and then I just kind of tried to look on the Internet 338 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,840 but not take the first couple sources you find. 339 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,680 I was trying to deeper. Once one publication or online 340 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,720 resource said this, I would try to cross reference it with 341 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:00,720 another one to try to see if they said the similar things to 342 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,680 say OK. Since multiple people are saying 343 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,640 the same thing, then it's probably more the general 344 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,280 direction I want to go into is not just an offshoot influencer 345 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,520 or somebody trying to say something to get attention. 346 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:18,240 But as I said, I didn't read, I didn't read a book or follow a 347 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,040 coaching program. I really just stopped eating 348 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,800 fast food. I stopped eating out at all. 349 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,960 I went to the grocery stores and made my meals. 350 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:34,760 I was eating almonds to snack on and I was eating vegetables and 351 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,040 meat, so it was just out for lunch. 352 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,440 I would make chicken salad or tuna salad and do that for the 353 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,840 week and bringing that to work. And I would eat lettuce with it 354 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,320 to make sandwiches so sweet with lettuce leaves. 355 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,080 So I dropped all bread. I dropped all my carb sauces. 356 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,600 I wasn't. I didn't eat French fries, 357 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,840 potatoes, any of that type of things. 358 00:19:55,840 --> 00:20:00,960 It was just meat and vegetables and then nuts, Variety of nuts. 359 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:02,840 And you were trying to get mostly lean meats? 360 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:04,640 Or were you throwing in some fatty cuts there too? 361 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,120 Mostly lean meats. Because I was so focused on I 362 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,920 just wanted to lose weight, so I didn't really. 363 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,480 So I probably not have. I haven't eaten as much fat as 364 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,120 the keto diet probably calls for for your energy source. 365 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,800 So I was eating chicken and fish and hence the chicken salad and 366 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,560 tuna salad that I was rotating in every week. 367 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:33,480 Every once in a while I would have steak, but it wasn't the 368 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:38,960 fatty meats like I probably should have had with following 369 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:40,680 the trying to follow a keto diet. 370 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,480 What about now? You eating pretty much the same 371 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:43,880 thing. Now you mix it up a little bit. 372 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,360 I'm mixing up a little bit. I'm eating. 373 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:56,360 I have more of a balance of beef and chicken and fish and I've 374 00:20:56,520 --> 00:21:00,560 even tried some of the keto sources of carbs like the bread, 375 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,000 but I try to make sure it is at least whole grain is not the the 376 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:11,320 white bread versions and I've started taking more supplements. 377 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,520 Sometimes I put in protein powder to try to keep my 378 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,760 calories because I try to eat keep around 2000 calories a day. 379 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:27,960 When I started this lifestyle, I was about 3:15 in October 2022 380 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:36,320 and then by end of January 2023 I had lost like 6570 lbs just 381 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,000 from changing what I was eating and The Walking every day I was 382 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:43,480 trying to get at least 10,000 steps a day. 383 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,720 Nice. Very nice. 384 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,320 Very nice. What about medication? 385 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,320 I'm assuming you're off pretty much all the majority of the 386 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,640 medication that you were on. Oh yeah, I just dropped all of 387 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,880 that. I mean, they probably the 388 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,600 doctors probably wanted to wean me off of it, but I took kind of 389 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:00,840 a hardcore take and I just stopped taking it because I 390 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,320 didn't want to pay for it anymore and I felt great. 391 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,800 I mean I went off of what my body was saying. 392 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,880 That's what made me keep going because the IT it was hard at 393 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,840 first. Just I tell anybody I have a 394 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:17,720 friend who has been way more weight than I have my whole life 395 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,240 as family friend and he's probably stayed in the five or 396 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,360 six hundreds since I've known him. 397 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,840 And I told him that all you got to do is start that's I didn't 398 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,440 when I started I didn't do it for anybody else that did it for 399 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:37,100 myself. So if I didn't have so quote UN 400 00:22:37,100 --> 00:22:40,160 quote, great day working out or walking. 401 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,640 If I only did 1 1/2 miles instead of two miles, at least I 402 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,120 like. Or at least I did something. 403 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,280 The next day is another opportunity to try to do better. 404 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,720 So I was only doing it for myself. 405 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,440 I didn't have anybody I was trying to impress or anything 406 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,600 like that. So I took it at my own speed 407 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,840 until my body got used to it. So then when I did it more 408 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:02,760 consistently and my body got used to and mine's like, OK, 409 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,280 this is what we're going to aim for every day, then it became 410 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,480 like a routine. It's just fitting to my 411 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,600 lifestyle, naturally. Progress over perfection, man. 412 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:11,720 It's what trying to tell everybody. 413 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,520 What about your your friend? Is he starting to move in the 414 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:18,600 right direction as well? It's hard to say with him. 415 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,880 He a yo-yo up and down and he's older than me, so I I tell him 416 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,760 and I use myself an example. I try to walk with him. 417 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,960 I'm trying to prod without being too hard, cold with him because 418 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:36,440 he gets more upset when you try to change his ways than I would 419 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,000 if somebody was trying to help me. 420 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,080 So I'm trying to take it day by day and I'm telling them it. 421 00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:45,320 He gets depressed because I guess he saw, he sees my 422 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:49,760 progress because he watched me do it and I'm where I am now, 423 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,360 still trying to hit my goals. I actually hit my goal. 424 00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:58,520 I want to be 225, and I hit 223 in early summer of this year. 425 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,160 But then I have a friend who's like, oh, you losing too much 426 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,400 muscle, you doing all this. So I was like, OK, maybe you're 427 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,200 right. So I started trying to put back 428 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,920 on more muscle and I get I'm back up to like the high two 429 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,840 40s. But I want to get back leaner. 430 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,040 I want to be as lean as possible. 431 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,160 I've been big most of my life. I want to see how the other half 432 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,920 lives. No, for sure, man. 433 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,440 Yeah. Let me ask you this, if you 434 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,560 don't mind me, Prime here. So you and I are both from the 435 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,280 South, man. I'm, I'm in Arkansas, You're in 436 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:28,760 Georgia. There's definitely a widespread 437 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,920 epidemic of people that are overweight in the South for that 438 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,000 Southern cooking that we're known so well for. 439 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,040 But like, I go to all these conferences, all these nutrition 440 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:42,240 conferences, and I don't see that many black people, man, I 441 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,520 don't understand why, 'cause like when you look at it from a 442 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,120 biological standpoint, I mean, skin cut doesn't mean a darn 443 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,360 thing, especially when you look at it from a nutritional 444 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:52,120 standpoint. Like, what works well for me is 445 00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,480 going to work well for you, and vice versa with most things. 446 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,640 Why do you think there's so much more? 447 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:03,280 I don't know if a version is the right word, but why is it that 448 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,160 there seems to be this prevalence of overweight, 449 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,400 obesity, type 2 diabetes in the black community down South 450 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,440 relative to the white community? Any ideas on that at all? 451 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:21,800 Think it's just based off of just the environment because 452 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,760 growing up you know if everybody in your family because a lot of 453 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,800 cases I have I've seen on TV and then the 600 LB life stories, 454 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,240 it's it's everybody around them either not encourages but it's 455 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,520 kind of like a support system and they might have other people 456 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,000 in their family that also overeat. 457 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,160 And I don't know. I think it it might be more on 458 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:49,000 an individual basis, even though I mean, you can clearly see that 459 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,280 the difference of people who show up for support and changes 460 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,080 in their lifestyle. But it also might be kind of 461 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,760 like not believing, not having faith that they can change, not 462 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:03,000 believe in the new information or not that lifestyle is not 463 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,800 going to work. Like just not having the 464 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,800 confidence to try to make a change. 465 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:12,120 Because I go back to my friend who was my closest study. 466 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:16,280 I can see he's, he's seen me lose the weight and for whatever 467 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,440 reason, he just hasn't taken the steps to do the same thing I'm 468 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,880 doing. I offered to walk with him. 469 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,880 He claims he didn't know about serving sizes and things of that 470 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:28,680 nature. And this. 471 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,120 He's almost 50 and I I can't believe that. 472 00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:35,160 I think it's just he's saying that because he just wants to do 473 00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:41,800 what he wants to do and he goes to the doctor he has because I'm 474 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:43,920 not going to say his identity, but he has. 475 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,720 He was diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. 476 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Later on in life I thought he had it much sooner, but he also 477 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,720 has lymphedema with his legs swell at the bottom. 478 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,160 So he has all this stuff going on. 479 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,640 He has lost some toes. He has a friend who has passed 480 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,360 away from who was on dialysis and also had diabetes. 481 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,080 So he sees all of these things around him. 482 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,600 But I don't know what his aversion is to changing for the 483 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,760 better. I I honestly can't answer that 484 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,280 question, but I think just some people get so stuck in their 485 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,600 lifestyle that they don't think things are going to change. 486 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,560 And also we're in a microwave society, so people want it to 487 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,840 change within a week. You want, if you've been 488 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,960 overweight all your life, you want to look bikini ready in a 489 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,200 week. They're not willing to put the 490 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,320 work in like other people are. So I think a mentality has a lot 491 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,160 to do with the environment as well. 492 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,080 Yeah, 100%, man. I feel like we we hanging around 493 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,080 people that make us feel comfortable because it's not 494 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,400 easy to be around people that make us feel uncomfortable and 495 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,200 push us to be better. But that's what we need and 496 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,840 we're you know around friends and family and people in our 497 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,400 society on a day-to-day basis that just act more as enablers. 498 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,200 And I don't know it just it it's it's tough. 499 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,760 I mean you have to like seek out these hardships and moments of 500 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,360 discomfort. But like, once you start going 501 00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:04,600 on that path and benefiting from it, it's hard to hard to turn 502 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,160 back around because like you just start seeing the fruits of 503 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,440 your labor compound over time. Yeah. 504 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,760 And you also think it might be the price difference people 505 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,200 going to when you go to grocery store. 506 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,760 I mean grocery store used to be cheaper than eating out, but 507 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,200 it's kind of even now with all the different taxes and stuff 508 00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,240 after COVID happened. So it's it's kind of expensive, 509 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,600 still go to go to grocery store, but going to the dollar menu is 510 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,120 just so convenient. And I think we've built a 511 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:34,680 lifestyle on convenience so much that people just rather do that 512 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,720 than mindlessly do that, rather than like think out meals and 513 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,160 try to look at certain sizes and relabels and things like that. 514 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Yeah, no, 100% man, 100%. What's your what's your training 515 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,920 like now? Is your next step bothering you? 516 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:51,160 You do much training now. I'll weight lift. 517 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,000 I try to do at least two to three times a week and I try to 518 00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:02,280 walk every day and stay on my drink sodas from time to time 519 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,200 whenever I have the taste for something. 520 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,320 But I try to stick to water at least a gallon of water a day 521 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:13,160 and also with the keto food selections that I make. 522 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,440 I also do intermittent fasting. So and my I also eat on a one 523 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,240 time a day so I intermittent fast. 524 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,760 So I probably not even really intermittent fasting at this 525 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,680 point because I've gone to eating one meal a day and I eat 526 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,360 it around lunchtime. So around 11 o'clock 12:00 527 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,880 Eastern and I try to eat all of my calories at that one time and 528 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,080 I don't eat again until the next day. 529 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,200 Do you find that that's better for you, like scheduling wise or 530 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,160 just from a Satani standpoint? Or is the main driver there just 531 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,960 simply to have that longer fasting window? 532 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,560 The longer fasting window, because I was doing intermittent 533 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,000 fasting on the regular way and I was eating between 11 and my 534 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,360 window was like 11 to 6. And so I was eating two or three 535 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,000 meals in that window and I decided to try to see if I can 536 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,960 kick it up a notch. And I was. 537 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:07,120 I have a book, I do have a book from Michael. 538 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,160 He gave me about fasting and they said that your body is 539 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:18,160 naturally more forget exactly how they call it, but you can 540 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,640 burn the most your your metabolism is the most active 541 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,720 like 11 to two or something like that might be the best window 542 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,920 based off circadian rhythm. And so I try to eat all my 543 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,360 calories during that part of the day in an effort to have even 544 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,760 more a bigger window to burn calories throughout the day are. 545 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,600 You tracking macros at all now? Are you pretty much just eating 546 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,120 intuitively, but during that window? 547 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:48,320 I look, I tried to. Everything I read online has 548 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:53,040 been trying to say to eat a gram of protein per body weight or 549 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,200 somewhere around there. So for a long time. 550 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,920 My goal for the last six months has been to eat at least 200 551 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:03,160 grams of protein. I've tried to limit my carbs to, 552 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,960 I want to say to 0 because, you know, vegetables have carbs in 553 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:07,960 it, so I haven't really counted them. 554 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,840 But I tried not to eat any kind of significant carb source. 555 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:12,560 So it's kind of like trace carbs, whatever. 556 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,320 It comes in the vegetables and you know, things like that. 557 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,600 And I haven't really been tracking fat. 558 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,440 It's mostly been protein. And then trying to make sure I 559 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:27,520 choose lean protein sources and vegetables. 560 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,800 I haven't really been counting fats. 561 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,840 So that's why I say for the keto lifestyle, I don't think I've 562 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,560 been eating enough fat that it calls for for the energy. 563 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,960 But I haven't been doing too bad as far as energy production, I 564 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,680 don't think. Good, good, good, good. 565 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600 And what did you say your your current weight is? 566 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:46,280 Our current weight is I think this morning I weigh 245. 567 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:47,840 Nice. Nice. 568 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,280 That's awesome, man, You've been saving a ton of money off 569 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,200 medication. Your weight's trimming up. 570 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:54,880 You feel better. You look better. 571 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,200 Life's good. Yeah, it's it's amazing. 572 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,280 I I don't want to go back. I've had days when, you know, 573 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,720 during the Thanksgiving at work we had some little parts and 574 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,440 stuff. So I might have got off my 575 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:12,160 eating regimen for a little bit, but I did enjoy the food. 576 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,680 But I couldn't eat like I used to eat because my body just 577 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,920 wouldn't let me. I've been so focused on this, on 578 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840 this journey that I'm on right now, that my body was like, all 579 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,840 right, you enjoyed it, but that's enough. 580 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,800 You don't need to eat anymore. So I think that's encouraging 581 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,800 for me to feel that within myself. 582 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,680 I try to stress it to my friend that the habits that you have 583 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,560 right now, your body is used to. But once you start dedicating 584 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,280 yourself to a more healthy journey, your body will go in 585 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,800 the other direction and it won't allow you to go back because you 586 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,240 will feel sick if you try to eat like you used to. 587 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,360 Your body just will not let you go down that path. 588 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:56,120 So I'm trying to to live what I speak so he can see it and we'll 589 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,320 see how it goes, but I feel amazing. 590 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,040 And yeah, no medication. That's awesome, man. 591 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Do you like when you go back, like to Thanksgiving, for 592 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,960 instance, like you were talking about earlier, and, you know, 593 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 you get your friends, you get your family, they're all eating 594 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,960 those foods that you grew up on? Like, is it pretty tempting 595 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,000 mentally? Or do you feel like, hey, you 596 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,560 know what? The success I'm seeing outweighs 597 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,520 that momentary temptation. The The success I'm seeing 598 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,480 outweighs the momentary temptation. 599 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,480 I ate. I allowed myself to do it. 600 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:31,040 I didn't feel out of control like I was before, like when I 601 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,000 was eating. Most of my life I ate because I 602 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,240 saw it. I wasn't even that hungry. 603 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,800 You just eat and clean your plate, and if there's anything 604 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,320 leftover, you eat that. Like, I rarely had seconds. 605 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:46,200 But nowadays I have to go plates when I go somewhere. 606 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:50,400 If I do go to a restaurant, I try to make sure I keep an eye 607 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680 on all my servings and my portion sizes. 608 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,520 And while I did eat some, I ate some dressing. 609 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,480 I haven't eaten carbs that went around Thanksgiving. 610 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,440 I hadn't eaten carbs in like I wouldn't say a year, but close 611 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,000 to probably eight or nine months. 612 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,000 And I enjoyed it. I allowed myself to enjoy it for 613 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,040 that day. But then the the next day I went 614 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,199 right back to my keto based lifestyle that didn't. 615 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,840 It wasn't lingering feeling like I need to do this more. 616 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,120 I need to eat my feelings like I was before. 617 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,800 Yeah, that's the key, man. Like if if you're gonna, you 618 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,520 know, deviate, that's that's one thing. 619 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,400 But when you deviate, it just becomes a negative spiral that 620 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,120 keeps going further and further out of control. 621 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,080 That's where you get in trouble. So like the fact that you're 622 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,880 able to moderate against that is, is, is so, so important, 623 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,800 man, so huge. And I think seeing the success 624 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,320 you've seen, recognizing all the progress you've made like 625 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,800 there's no, there's no incentive to throw that away in the 626 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000 moment. Yeah, and I I felt good. 627 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,280 I mean, it's it it the food brought back feelings because 628 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,440 it's all those tasty things. I love Thanksgiving. 629 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,120 Those are my favorite holiday other than, you know, Christmas 630 00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,920 when you're a kid. But I love Thanksgiving. 631 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,560 Not just because family was around just but because of the 632 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,040 foods that you got eat. I could have ate Thanksgiving 633 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,720 food all year long and so I allowed myself to enjoy it. 634 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:12,160 But I've got to the point where I'm mentally able and strong 635 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:16,560 enough to to not over indulge and keep going down the path. 636 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,000 Like I said, oh, I ate it yesterday. 637 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,840 I'm already breaking my diet. Let me try it again today. 638 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,600 I'm able to withstand that kind of temptation. 639 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,080 That's the key, man. That's the key what? 640 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,640 What's in the pipeline for you? What are you excited about? 641 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,440 I know you're wanting to get leaned out and see what all the 642 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,440 muscle looks like underneath, but what else you're working on? 643 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,640 Well, the the controlling my nutrition and what I put in my 644 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,560 body has led to so many other things. 645 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,200 I'm able to think clearly. I just feel better day by day, 646 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,680 emotionally, mentally, physically, with my energy 647 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,040 level. I have more energy for my 648 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,400 daughter. I'm able to. 649 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,680 I'm was never a morning person and Michael helped me do this 650 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:59,880 because I'm more of a night owl and he had a rule he wants to be 651 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,360 in the office, I think at 8815. And that doesn't seem early to 652 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,120 probably a lot of people and a lot of your listeners. 653 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,960 But 8:15 is early for me when you're not in school. 654 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,600 So when you had to go to high school. 655 00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:15,240 And so that was part of me changing for the better. 656 00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:18,040 But now, since I've been doing it and being consistent with it, 657 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,880 and I had to take my daughter to school, I'm up at 6:00 or even 658 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,280 sooner than that every morning, and it doesn't affect me. 659 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:28,520 I've been able to adapt. My body is is more healthy. 660 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,960 So I think that I'm not resistant to any kind of change 661 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,000 in behaviors or anything like I was before. 662 00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,920 I just have such a positive outlook on life and I'm just 663 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:45,360 trying to get to what I want to look like physically seeing 664 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,840 maybe if I can get a six pack for the first time in my life. 665 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,120 I mean, 40 is not too late about for that, is it? 666 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,280 No. Heck no, man. 667 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,960 Not too late at all. I mean, you still got the best 668 00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,440 years ahead of you. And I bet your daughter's like, 669 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,040 super proud of like she's seen this whole journey unfold. 670 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,960 I mean, you get more quality time with her now that you're 671 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,040 able to move better, feel better, act better. 672 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,920 So I bet that's just totally made Joe's relationship thrive. 673 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,520 Yes, because before you know you have the jump houses and places 674 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,600 around and there's AI think it's a £250 weight limit. 675 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,240 So I was never able to go to those places and actually run 676 00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:23,560 around on the the the bounce mats or what do you call it to 677 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,960 actually have fun with her. But I can now I can sign the 678 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,280 waiver and I can actually jump around instead of just sitting 679 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,640 on the sideline. So it's opened up a whole new 680 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,640 window of opportunity for me. That's awesome, man. 681 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:35,520 How? How old is she? 682 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:40,720 She's 6, so she's all about she. She has high energy, so I try to 683 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:42,360 match it. Yeah, that's that's the way to 684 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,520 be, man. Like I I get I I'm saddened when 685 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,520 I see parents and grandparents that are there with their kids 686 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,520 at the park and they're just confined to the bench because 687 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,560 they they don't have the energy. They don't have to drive. 688 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,800 They don't have the mobility to get up and interact with the 689 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,800 kids. I want to be. 690 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,200 I want to be that guy that's 97 years old freaking rocking and 691 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,520 rolling with my great, great grandkids at the park someday. 692 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,040 And I think, you know, making the right decisions throughout 693 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,400 your entire life nutritionally and and training wise, I mean 694 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,680 that's that's the way to do it man. 695 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,120 Absolutely is. It has been amazing and I can't 696 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,080 wait to to continue this lifestyle. 697 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,160 This. Most people like say this 698 00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,320 probably like a diet. I don't call it a diet to call 699 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,840 it my my lifestyle. This is how I choose I'm going 700 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:27,360 to eat like this for the rest of my life. 701 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,360 I enjoy it. I enjoy eating meat and the the 702 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,760 lean protein sources. I like vegetables. 703 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:40,120 Anything else I add as far as like pistachios or almonds, just 704 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,080 I eat those because they taste good even though they are good 705 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,960 for you. But I never get tired of eating 706 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,000 like this, you know, most people would say they get bored just 707 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,560 eating the same. I can eat the same thing over 708 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,920 and over again because it's not about, it's not about just going 709 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,920 on this food journey and exciting my palate anymore. 710 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,440 It's eating the foods that I enjoyed that are good for me and 711 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:04,240 that's my focus. Yeah, 100% man, 100%. 712 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,920 So Michael knew that we were going to have this conversation. 713 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,280 He wanted me to ask you how many eggs and pieces of bacon he's 714 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,520 been known to eat at a Waffle House. 715 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:17,280 Oh man, I didn't even know that you can order at Waffle House 716 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,840 the way that he orders. I I don't know what the record 717 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:28,120 is, but I could say easy. I think about eating 30 eggs and 718 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,520 30 pieces of bacon. He might have eaten more than 719 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,440 that, but it's at least 25 to 30 of each. 720 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,480 See him? Yes, he at one time. 721 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,480 He eats it fast. Not as fast as Major Payne did 722 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,800 on the movie, but he's not too far behind. 723 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,240 Yeah, he's a beast, man. Michael's a cool dude. 724 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,880 I'm glad that he connect this man. 725 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:50,680 Like, I love just connecting with people that are seeing 726 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,480 positive changes in their life by adopting this lifestyle. 727 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,040 And then, I mean, that's what it's all about, man. 728 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,760 Like, this is totally a grassroots movement. 729 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160 It's not going to come from the doctors or the to the people 730 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,600 above us. It's going to come from people 731 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,800 that are changing their life on a day-to-day basis and it's 732 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,880 making a positive impact on those around them. 733 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,440 So the more I can interact with people like yourself, man, the 734 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,360 happier I am and I'm super proud of you. 735 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,280 What you've accomplished and just keep fighting the good 736 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,880 fight, man. Keep being an inspiration to 737 00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,240 others. Keep doing what you're doing and 738 00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:18,840 keep getting healthier every day. 739 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,040 I appreciate it and I really appreciate the keto bricks 740 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,320 samples that you sent. They are amazing. 741 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,360 And so I was when I looked at the side of them and they the 742 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,840 amount of fat they had in them, I was like, yeah, I don't think 743 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:35,960 I've hit that much fat in a day. So I was like, I'm behind on the 744 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,320 amount of fats that I need day-to-day. 745 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:42,040 But when I ate the kilo brick and there's 1000 calories and 746 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:46,600 had I had, I had so much energy I saw like so my body is needing 747 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:52,640 more fat to produce energy for me to to experience day by day. 748 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,440 So I think I'm going to start trying to up my fat intake. 749 00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:56,920 Yeah, man. I mean, I would, I would 750 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960 definitely recommend that, especially as big as much muscle 751 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:04,120 as you have, man. I mean, I'm 57, you're, you said 752 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,440 6-7, you're foot taller than me, 65, you're pretty much a foot 753 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,880 taller than me. You know, like I eat, I eat 754 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,440 probably right now I'm coming out of a competition prep, so 755 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,360 it's a little bit different. But generally speaking, I'm 756 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,960 eating 200, three, 100 grams of fat a day and you've got higher 757 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,520 energy demands than me. So you're going to want to ramp 758 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,680 that up so you can feel better. Yeah, that's definitely you show 759 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,680 me the how the other side lives on that part. 760 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:33,000 So I'm definitely going to take a up tick in my the amount of 761 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,880 facts that I'm eating there by there because I've seen my 762 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,000 energy spike even more than it has been since I changed my 763 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,880 lifestyle for the better. So I really appreciate the keto 764 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,360 bricks you sent and and showing me what I really need. 765 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,400 My pleasure, ma'am. If there's everything I can do 766 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,560 to help with any in anything with regards to nutrition, by 767 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600 all means don't don't hesitate to reach out, man. 768 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,400 I'm happy to do it. Absolutely. 769 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,160 I will definitely take you up on the offer and I hope I didn't 770 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,280 ramble too much for anybody who's listening to my brain. 771 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:07,360 My my brain kind of like goes on autopilot so I can go from one 772 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:11,360 one side to another and I just hope everybody can follow along 773 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,920 and I didn't get to be too far off the path. 774 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,440 No, no, not at all ma'am. I bring all types of people on 775 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,800 this podcast and I think it's good for people to hear all 776 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,800 types of different, different back story, different walks of 777 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,520 life. And that's what that's what this 778 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,800 is all about, man. So I freaking love the story. 779 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,520 I appreciate you taking the time to share it and being 780 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:30,880 transparent with it. Do you have any like social 781 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,880 profiles you want to point people to or are you online 782 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,200 much? I'm online, but it's mostly work 783 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,280 based. I don't have like I don't. 784 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:44,280 I haven't documented my lifestyle online really, so my 785 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:50,040 socials are kind of like just for work basically. 786 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,520 So I don't have anything at this time. 787 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,320 Well, shoot me a picture like a before and after picture, man. 788 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,560 I'll put that in the show notes so people can see what you kind 789 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,760 of what what you've gone through in the journey on phone. 790 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,080 Oh, absolutely. I have one of those that I made 791 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:08,800 that I did share with on my Facebook page to show people the 792 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,160 changes that I made and even people on my Facebook friends 793 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,360 that I've haven't seen me probably since maybe college. 794 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,400 They were like, Dang man, you like a whole new person. 795 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480 Some people like, did you take this picture from high school 796 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,240 like well now y'all just blowing smoke. 797 00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:28,200 Now I know I don't look like I'm eighteen, yeah, but but I do 798 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,560 appreciate the, the, the comments that they made. 799 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,000 Yeah man, night and day difference. 800 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000 So shoot that over to me in an e-mail for sure, and I'll put 801 00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,440 that in the show notes, and that'll be an inspiration in and 802 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,640 of itself. Oh, absolutely. 803 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:41,320 Well, Rome, keep killing her brother. 804 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,080 Happy holidays to you. Merry Christmas. 805 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,880 And like I said, man, if there's everything I can do, you just 806 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,760 let me know, brother. All right. 807 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,920 Thank you so much. I appreciate the time talking to 808 00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,080 you, Michael. Want me to tell you hello and we 809 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:54,120 already covered that. We both know Michael, so I just 810 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,080 wanted to make sure I put that in there because he texted me 811 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,400 before the show. And happy holidays to you and 812 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:00,640 yours. Awesome man. 813 00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,240 See you, brother. All right.