1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,560 Well, hello ladies and gents, Robert Sykes, Keto savage.com. 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,040 Today I've got special guest Nick Weary on the line. 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,880 He is a competitive eater and he is absolutely killing. 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,680 I've never had a competitive eater athlete on the podcast. 5 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,840 So super interesting story, super interesting sport. 6 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,120 He was a competitive bodybuilder initially and then from that 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,360 that catalyzed him into becoming a competitive eater. 8 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,360 He's been doing that for seven plus years. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:25,200 He just got none eating like the tremendous insane amount of hot 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:26,960 dogs. He's got a blueberry eating 11 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,720 contest coming up. He's eaten 70 plus Bratwurst, 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,400 you know, multiple doughnuts, cream pie, all kinds of crazy 13 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:38,040 stuff, but kind of diving into what got him into that sport, 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,520 how that sport is conducted, how he trains and prepares for that. 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:43,640 Talk a little bit about metabolism, talk a little bit 16 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:45,040 about hunger and satiety signalling. 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:49,760 Very interesting conversation, very thought provoking, very 18 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:51,880 insightful. I've got no doubt he will take 19 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,400 something from this and the world of competitive eating. 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,040 So without further delay, sit back, relax, enjoy the 21 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:09,440 conversation with Nick and we're live. 22 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Nick, how are you, brother? Can't complain man, I have a 23 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,760 pretty good day so far. Just kind of getting over 24 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,640 Nathan's on the 4th and just ready to move on to the next 25 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:19,720 contest. Love it. 26 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 I love it. Well, I have had people from all 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:23,880 different competitive backgrounds on the podcast, 28 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,640 Bodybuilders, endurance athletes. 29 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,160 But you are the first competitive eater I've had on 30 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:30,800 the podcast. So what is that exactly? 31 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,000 So I travel all over the United States and the world, I guess, 32 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,040 you know, just doing different eating contests, typically 33 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,600 between 6:00 and 12:00 minutes occasionally like charitable 34 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,880 components and, and things like that. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,760 And basically we'll line up food of choice. 36 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:49,920 Like for example this weekend will be blueberries in 5 LB 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,360 bowls and see who can finish the most blueberries in eight 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,120 minutes. For example this weekend. 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:59,120 So I'm assuming that'll probably be somewhere between 13 to 20 40 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,720 lbs will be the winner this weekend. 41 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,440 That's insane, man. So what I want to get, you know, 42 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,560 all the nuts and bolts uncovered here because this is all new to 43 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,320 me, but what, what compelled you to go the route of competitive 44 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,400 in that what, what is the catalyst for that sport of 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,360 choice? Oh, that's tough. 46 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,200 And I think everybody, we always joke around that like you don't 47 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,760 find competitive eating, it finds you. 48 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,600 I think it's kind of like if you're 6 foot 10, somebody's 49 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,840 going to put you on a basketball court, you know. 50 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,440 So for me, I was a competitive bodybuilder for about 10-11 51 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:32,520 years, you know, and, and my body weight went from starting 52 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:36,360 around 162 all the way up to around 24242. 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,680 My heaviest wasn't pretty 242, but I was up there and you know, 54 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,560 to to gain that 80 ish pounds obviously took a a good amount 55 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,960 of food and increasing appetite and food capacity. 56 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,640 So after I stopped bodybuilding, or at least competitively, my 57 00:02:50,640 --> 00:02:53,320 appetite kind of became a running joke amongst my friends 58 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,640 and and they're like, hey, dude, what is wrong with you? 59 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,160 And they're like, what do you mean? 60 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:02,320 You know, I didn't realize and they encouraged me to enter with 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,840 a punch key eating contest, like pull a Shelly Donuts around Fat 62 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,520 Tuesday. And I said no. 63 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,480 And they said, but you can win money. 64 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,800 You get free Donuts and they're raising money for a sick little 65 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,120 girl. And I'm like, OK, I'm in, I'm 66 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,640 in. And I went and and I won 67 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:20,480 handily. And then things just kind of 68 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,360 spiraled from there because like, I love winning. 69 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,960 I like money and I also like free food and I love raising 70 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,720 money for charity. So it was, it was a nice, you 71 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,800 know, perfect storm. No totally man. 72 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,880 So, so you and I have the the bodybuilding background as 73 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,360 common ground there. And as most bodybuilders would 74 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,880 know, like when you get down in a prep and you're depleted, your 75 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,520 body fat slow, your leptin and ground hormones are all kinds of 76 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,600 jacked up. When you come out of that prep, 77 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,760 you're pretty much insatiable. Like I can put down 10,000 78 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,400 calories on a whim, no big deal post competition. 79 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,040 And you're pretty much doing that outside of competitive 80 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,080 season, which is, that's what I kind of want to figure out 81 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,640 'cause like when you're in a bodybuilder prep, I mean, that 82 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:59,720 just kind of comes to the territory. 83 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,000 There's, there's significantly more bodybuilders with some form 84 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,520 of disorder eating than not. I would say would probably 85 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:08,640 agree. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, 100%. 86 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,640 You know, especially, you know, male and female side of things, 87 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,520 depending on coaches, cause some coaches, you know, you, I'm sure 88 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,480 you've seen it. We've all seen it. 89 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:17,320 They don't care. They're going to get you lean 90 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,560 one way or another. And by the time you get out of 91 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,840 that prep, a lot of people, I know it's still looked as a 92 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:26,560 theory, but believe in body fat's that point theory. 93 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:28,920 So you spend the majority of your adult life around a similar 94 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:31,440 body fat percentage. If you're not, you know, 95 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:35,680 competitive. And once you get fairly out of 96 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,880 that, away from that, your, your body can actually block like 97 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,360 satiety signals, you know, particularly when you're super 98 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,040 lean, you know, so I, I know coming out of my prep, my last 99 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,360 show was, I want to say 2018 Garden States. 100 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:55,480 And I, you would eat almost to the point of you're not even 101 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:57,160 aware you're eating, you're just doing it. 102 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,800 And all of a sudden you realize, like, oh, I just ate a 4 LB bag 103 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:04,880 of bird's eye, you know, broccoli to go along with my 104 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,840 full pound of chicken breast. And then I ate like 2 quarts of 105 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:10,160 ice cream. And you're, you're almost like 106 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:13,040 come to after that. And, and that was kind of my, my 107 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:14,760 realization that my appetite had become insane. 108 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,760 My capacity had gone up. So what I did realize when I got 109 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,160 into competitive eating, like how am I going to maintain this? 110 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,240 I don't want to say appetite because it's not all about 111 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,920 appetite, but the ability to eat is I stay relatively lean year 112 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,720 round. You know, I don't have as many 113 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,360 fluctuations as I used to have when I was competing. 114 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,080 I was, there was pretty, pretty high fluctuations there. 115 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,480 I would say other people would say I'm probably around like, 116 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,440 you know, 10%. I'd say I'm close to like 12, 117 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:48,440 but they kind of it, it depends on, on the week and, and once I 118 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:50,400 get closer to Nathan's, I probably get closer to single 119 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,480 digits, you know, maybe, maybe 9-8 and a half nine. 120 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:55,960 And and as you know, if you if you're sticking in single 121 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,000 digits, you're going to be pretty hungry most of the time. 122 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,320 So before you started competitive eating from like a 123 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,520 caloric standpoint, like what would be your, you know, 124 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,320 building phase calories? How low would you take those 125 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:09,120 into prep? Like what were what were some of 126 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,400 those numbers looking like? So when I was when I was 127 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,040 competing, I was always way more aggressive with myself and 128 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,560 experimental than I would be with clients when I was prepping 129 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,960 them because it was kind of like I could, I didn't feel bad 130 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,800 about, you know, forcing calories or depleting calories. 131 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,160 I would do it in a much healthier manner. 132 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 So I don't condone any of this behavior. 133 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:31,840 Just preface, my calories would get a low, probably below 1500 134 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,720 by the end of a prep. And that when I say below 1500, 135 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,840 I mean it's below 1500. I'm still doing cardio. 136 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,440 I competed NPC, so I was including things, you know, 137 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,080 extracurricular to, to burn extra calories, whether that be 138 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,400 high mass caffeine, ephedra, clenbuterol, what have you never 139 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,880 used thyroid hormone or anything like that to, to shut that down. 140 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,800 But you know, and then over the counter things like grains of 141 00:06:55,800 --> 00:07:00,760 paradise and yo him buying HCLI would I would do upwards of like 142 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:05,640 15 to 20 milligrams a day, you know, so I was, I remember being 143 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:09,480 freezing cold in my basement, pouring sweat on the bike, but 144 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:13,040 I'm freezing cold, you know, so it was like I probably overdid 145 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,240 it because I would do my own prep because I'm too, I never 146 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,840 trusted anybody to do the press. So I always did it myself. 147 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:23,120 So they probably below 1500 by the end, probably 12 to 1400, 148 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,840 which again, if you're an adult male, you probably don't need to 149 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,120 get to that point. But I want to be inside out at 150 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:34,000 the bowl at the peak of a quilt bulk, which the 242 is kind of 151 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:35,600 sloppy. I, I could walk around the two 152 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:42,680 20s relatively lean to maintain around 220, probably around 4600 153 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:46,880 calories, 4700 calories 'cause I was also pretty active and 154 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,360 mostly from, you know, I'm not a huge fan of the term, but clean 155 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:53,400 food sources. So traditional bodyguing foods 156 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,280 like oatmeal, rice, chicken, eggs, a lot of those things, 157 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 predominantly chicken 'cause I was always cheap, trying to save 158 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:02,800 money, not a lot of beef and stuff. 159 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,680 And I was competing. And what I would do was days I 160 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,400 would train, my carbohydrates would be upwards of 600, seven, 161 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:14,480 100 grams. And protein probably somewhere 162 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,200 closer to like 250 to 300, depending on the day. 163 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,280 And then fats would be relatively trace for that 164 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,440 amount, talking like 50 grams, right? 165 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:26,000 60 grams, which like as you know, when you're putting 166 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,480 together that many carbohydrates and proteins, that basically 167 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,960 means you're incorporating no fats into your diet because 168 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:32,760 that's just trace fat that are adding up there. 169 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,000 And then days I wouldn't train. So like, let's say two days a 170 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,039 week typically and an offseason, my fats would go upwards like 171 00:08:41,039 --> 00:08:44,440 100 to 120 grams. I would have no starchy 172 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:48,880 carbohydrates, only from the veg that would be included, and my 173 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,960 protein would stay consistent. But I had pretty high 174 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,920 fluctuations. And what I found was I felt much 175 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,560 better 'cause when I tried to just do high carbohydrates and 176 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:01,240 low fats, very quickly my body turned on me. 177 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:03,920 I was like, yeah, dude, we need hormonal balance. 178 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:08,720 This is not OK, you know? So it was not a good idea, but 179 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,600 it was. I was always kind of very 180 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,080 aggressive with my experimenting with myself, but it it, I guess 181 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,320 I could say it paid off in the long run. 182 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:19,400 Yeah. And from like a a sheer food 183 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,440 volume standpoint, like if you're eating 6-7 hundred, 800 184 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:24,400 grams of carbohydrates, like that's a lot of food volume. 185 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,160 Like I could put down, you know, 4555 hundred calories relatively 186 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,160 easily from fats and proteins. But if I'm taking in 75% of my 187 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,960 calories coming from fats, that's not near as much actual 188 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:36,360 food volume as what you're getting. 189 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,280 Yeah, yeah, because when it because like, you know, an 190 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,520 average breakfast when because people a lot of times I know 191 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,920 like particularly pro bodybuilders with a lot of in 192 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,400 the social media age, people like to buffer what they eat and 193 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,320 say, oh, I can eat 25,000 calories. 194 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,440 I could. None of them do for the most 195 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,880 part, like having eaten that many calories in one sitting. 196 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:56,640 I can tell you right now, I don't believe there's an IFBD 197 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,160 pro in the world that could eat 25,000 calories without 198 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:02,880 carefully planning it out and recording it with jump cuts. 199 00:10:04,680 --> 00:10:07,720 You know, that's that's way too much food for most normal 200 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,160 humans. But yeah, like the oatmeal 201 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:17,240 alone, you know, if you're doing 2 cups dry, that is a boatload 202 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,920 of oatmeal once it's cooked, or like 3 cups cooked of rice along 203 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,800 with eight ounces of chicken. Most people just don't have the 204 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:30,240 capacity to do things like that. So what ended up usually 205 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,160 happening is I was taking in 600 grams of carbohydrates. 206 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,400 I typically ate 6:00-ish times a day. 207 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:42,560 If you include shakes around my training, probably 350 of those 208 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,400 would be in the peri workout window, 350 to 400. 209 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,480 So I was pretty aggressive with that window, not because I was, 210 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,520 I wasn't on exogenous things to kind of, you know like insulin 211 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,160 or anything like that to drive those. 212 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,880 But what I would do was I just had a very high belief in the 213 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,480 nutrient repartitioning effect around training and believed I'd 214 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,480 be the most efficient. And then I would kind of book at 215 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:06,800 the end of my day a high carbohydrate day. 216 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,200 If I had fats that didn't need to be traced, that's when they 217 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:14,120 would be in the carbohydrates would would drop just to not 218 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:15,560 really because I'm like, oh, you're going to store them 219 00:11:15,560 --> 00:11:17,800 because it's night time. More so just to get my pancreas 220 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:21,080 and break from the beating that it's been taking all day. 221 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,840 No totally man makes total sense. 222 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,840 So when you when you stopped competing or after these shows 223 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,880 and your friends were compelling you to do a, a competitive 224 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,200 eating contest, like do you think that you were struggling 225 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,040 with some form of disorder eating and then the competitive 226 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,760 eating was a way to leverage that to your benefit or what was 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:41,960 the the psychology behind that? I think it was the, the eating 228 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:43,600 becomes disordered. I think it, I don't want to say 229 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,200 it has to, that sounds terrible. But when bodybuilding gets to an 230 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,520 extreme and you're pushing, you know, my body weight was 33% 231 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,400 above what it was when I graduated high school. 232 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,360 When you start doing those things and you're trying to do 233 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,320 things, whether you're natural or enhanced, like let's just say 234 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:01,000 super physiologically, things your body doesn't want to do, 235 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,560 basically, I think your behaviors need to be disordered 236 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,960 and that sounds terrible. You know, and I think a lot of 237 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,240 competitors be like, no, they don't. 238 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,440 It's like, well, look at anything done at a really high 239 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,640 level or attempted to be done at a really high level, whether 240 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,520 that's business or athletics or what have you. 241 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,920 Those people typically aren't socially super normal, you know, 242 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,840 because you have to change. I think that's why sidebar, I 243 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,640 think that's why Michael Jordan will be looked at as a, a better 244 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,240 winner than LeBron James or maybe a better basketball 245 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,160 player, because I don't think LeBron is a killer and a bad 246 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,240 human being. Or then Michael, like compared 247 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,840 to Michael Jordan, you know, I think he's, I think he loves his 248 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:42,120 kids. I think he loves his wife. 249 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,640 I think he wants to be involved with his with his friends and 250 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,360 his family. And I think that makes him 251 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:49,480 lesser on the court, to be honest, which sounds weird and 252 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,720 terrible. But so for me, yeah, it was 253 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,960 probably slightly disordered in my behaviors, whether it was 254 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:58,600 just obsessing about the next meal or I was probably sleeping 255 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,040 on average 3 1/2 to four hours a night, tops. 256 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:03,640 Some garbage sleep. And some of that came with the 257 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,120 weight and some of that came with other things. 258 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:11,080 So if you're awake 20 hours and you're constantly pretty lean. 259 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,280 And I remember coming out of a few preps and I had buddies that 260 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,200 were like, dude, you need to put body fat on. 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:16,880 You need to start gaining weight. 262 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,760 And I'm like, no, no, no, 'cause like once you, once you can 263 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:23,120 grate cheese on your glutes, you don't want any fat back there. 264 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,720 After a while, it's really hard to accept that, you know, was 265 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,480 for me. So I think the competitive 266 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,400 eating was mainly just, I think it was a byproduct of that. 267 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,720 And also I'd played baseball competitively. 268 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:38,520 I'd done bodybuilding a long time competitively. 269 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,440 It was like my first love. And now all of a sudden I was, I 270 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,400 had a little bit of a gift at something, you know, I didn't 271 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,560 have a great genetic predisposal for bodybuilding. 272 00:13:47,560 --> 00:13:50,880 I was very vascular, kind of gross looking, but I wasn't 273 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,960 going to, I wasn't going to be winning nationals. 274 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:58,400 And I was good at it and I could make money instead of spending 275 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,600 money and I could still spend time with my kids and be dad. 276 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:06,000 And, and that was actually the biggest transition was I 277 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:12,120 realized bodybuilding was taking away and I, I couldn't really do 278 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:16,640 that anymore because my middle one, my now six year old was 279 00:14:16,680 --> 00:14:19,600 right around one. My daughter was right around 4. 280 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:21,760 And I'm like, OK, I need to be around for a while. 281 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,200 And, and this allowed me to do that. 282 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,720 So yeah, I think, I think it's, it was a different transition, 283 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,000 but somehow, somehow it worked. No, it's super cool man. 284 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,040 And your wife does it with you too, right? 285 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,160 Yeah, she's so behind me in the dining room there are 10 giant 286 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:43,880 pink belts cuz she is now after this weekend, the ten time 287 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,600 Nathan's hot dog eating champion. 288 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,560 So she broke her own record and aged 51 in 10 minutes. 289 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:58,080 And yeah, so she's she's ranked, I believe 4th, 4th or 5th in the 290 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:01,200 world. Yeah, Pretty, pretty insane. 291 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,080 Very, very good. That's also a nice thing that we 292 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,080 can kind of, we can do this together and you know, still be 293 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,840 the just a very strange family. No, totally, man. 294 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,440 So, so when it comes to competitive eating, like I want 295 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,040 to understand the actual nuts and bolts because like I can eat 296 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,800 a lot of food. I think it comes to territory as 297 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:25,120 a bodybuilder and I I look at why I'm hungry, what the tide 298 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,240 is, things of that nature. But like from a competitive 299 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,040 eating standpoint, like I'm sure there's a freaking science 300 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:31,960 behind it, just like there is a bodybuilding. 301 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,040 So like, what is the prep protocol? 302 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,920 What is the goal? Like when you're preparing for a 303 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:38,960 a meat or a, what is it even called? 304 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,000 The contest, I guess. Yeah, just contest. 305 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,320 Just contest like what? What does the the prep work 306 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,920 leading up to that consistent? I would assume that you'd want 307 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,400 to to dip into some form of deficit, but at the same time 308 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,600 you kind of want to condition your digestive tract to be able 309 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,040 to withstand a bolus of food. Like how does that look like? 310 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,520 Yeah, so it's a, it's a tough balance, I'm not going to lie, 311 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,880 because like obviously the day of a contest, if I'm going to 312 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,520 eat 70 bratwursts, you're probably looking at, you know, 313 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,480 somewhere between 10 and 14,000 calories depending on the brand. 314 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:16,160 And do you can't really, what I learned very quickly is my super 315 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,640 high carbohydrate diet and very low fat diet wasn't going to 316 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:25,600 work because I believe I can almost guarantee that my life 317 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:30,240 based production was down after a lot of my bodybuilding because 318 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,560 I would get reflux even just eating the most basic of 319 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,920 digestible fats like avocado or peanut butters. 320 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,680 And I had to kind of slowly almost reverse diet fats back 321 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,320 into my diet. And that wasn't going to work if 322 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,320 you ate 70 drops worse and something like that. 323 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,040 So that's part of it. And then the other part is like 324 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:55,240 most days where at around 190 lbs right now, I could maintain 325 00:16:55,240 --> 00:17:00,320 probably at around 2800 to three, probably 3000 calories. 326 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:04,280 I would maintain my weight if I wasn't going to have the insane 327 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,359 surpluses. So most days I'd probably end up 328 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:12,160 closer to 2500 with a practice every, let's say 10:00-ish days, 329 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,599 you know? So then I'm creating a 45145 330 00:17:15,599 --> 00:17:21,599 hundred to maybe 7500 calorie deficit just via diet. 331 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:26,040 And then occasionally I'll up my cardio going in or after a 332 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,440 contest. Now obviously it's slightly 333 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:30,320 leaner. I'll try to remove some of that 334 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,480 subcutaneous layer of fat because that kind of allows my 335 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,600 stomach to expand a little bit better and I'll feel a little 336 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,280 bit better. And then I won't have to quote 337 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,480 worry about the caloric surplus that I'm going to get battered 338 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,680 with in the contest. And the practice will pretty 339 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:51,320 much be practice like you play. So in the case of Donuts, for 340 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,400 example, we'll do five Donuts to a plate and I try to get ones 341 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,760 that are, you know, gram for gram, similar to ones we're 342 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,240 going to get in the contest with the plates out. 343 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,880 I'm going to put 5060 Donuts out, set the time on the clock. 344 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,240 It's going to be for the contest or even maybe a little bit extra 345 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:09,440 time so I can try to push through and then set up my, if 346 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,320 it's a dunking contest, my dunking liquids. 347 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,680 If it's not set up my drinking liquids and put some time in the 348 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,640 clock and go, you know, it's it's and then maybe watch the 349 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:24,040 footage back to see, OK, why was I slow or what went well, what 350 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,840 was efficient? So for some people that might be 351 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,520 swallowing larger pieces of food. 352 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,680 For some people that maybe you use too much fluid and you took 353 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,600 up too much real estate in the actual bag that is your stomach. 354 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,880 For some people, it may be you just didn't keep your hands 355 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:44,360 moving. So appetite is a part of it. 356 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:49,440 But The thing is, you're not going to want doughnut #60 you 357 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,840 know, if you've already had 59. So appetite's not the biggest 358 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:53,960 thing. The biggest thing I think is 359 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,880 capacity for discomfort. I think it's huge. 360 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,360 Ignoring flavor fatigue, I think it's enormous. 361 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,200 And then just who's the best prepared And, and there's, there 362 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,680 is somewhat of a progressive overload aspect to it. 363 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:12,560 So the first time I ever did brats, I think I did 43. 364 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,240 And the next time I was in the 50s and the next time it was 70 365 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,080 and and that just came from overtime doing more and more 366 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:23,120 contest. That bag has to extend if you if 367 00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:25,400 you keep pushing it, you know, to to its limits. 368 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,400 So there there is some similar stuff to a progressive overload 369 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,440 style training. So to be. 370 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,520 No, that makes total sense. So you're you're trying to 371 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:39,160 operate at a relative caloric deficit with these training high 372 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:43,920 days every 10 days or so to keep that kind of in your system and 373 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,680 you're doing an actual competition how frequently? 374 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,320 It's tough because you're like December, January, February, we 375 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:55,480 might have like 3 total, you know, one a month or that once 376 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:02,640 you get into April through by September we could have as many 377 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:03,760 as like three or four in a month. 378 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,040 Usually I'd say it's close to like two a month. 379 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:10,280 I I probably end up doing maybe 20 to 24 a year. 380 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,080 Wow, that's crazy, man. And like as, as you and I both, 381 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,200 there's not really money in bodybuilding unless you're like 382 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,280 on the upper echelon there. Is there money like can you make 383 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:22,840 a living competitive eating? Is that a thing? 384 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,240 You can so like my wife, for example, she's been fortunate 385 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,760 enough where it's been her, you know, primary source, you know, 386 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,280 if you come and she'd be able to like a living at it myself. 387 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,840 It's a side source, you know. But with that said, I, I, I 388 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,120 could tell you right now, I never thought I would have made 389 00:20:37,120 --> 00:20:42,320 the money I make off of eating food and stuff like that. 390 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:43,960 And then you get some really cool stuff too. 391 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:47,760 Like I was in Thailand last year, getting paid to be in 392 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,080 Thailand for a week or went to Milan, Italy for this or, or 393 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,400 Toronto. And you're like, is this real 394 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,480 life? Like, is this really, you know, 395 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,480 happening right now? I know in bodybuilding no one's 396 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,240 ever like, we're going to fly out to Thailand. 397 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:03,160 Is it in for me? So it's I've been super 398 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,320 fortunate to, to raise a ton of money for charity to get paid to 399 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,840 do this. You know, your average contest 400 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,720 winnings, if you're the winner, usually like top six get paid, 401 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,240 you're going to be anywhere between 2010 thousand for the 402 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:16,600 winner. And then kind of it kind of 403 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:21,640 halves all the way down. And then sometimes you get 404 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,680 appearance fees or some people have sponsors. 405 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,080 We're almost like our own, you know, NASCAR or independent 406 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,440 contractor, so to speak. So so a lot of it's outside of 407 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,560 that. It's why I think why a lot of 408 00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,120 people have like their YouTube channels and what have you, 409 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:38,520 because that's a different Ave. to maybe maybe competition is in 410 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,720 your thing. Maybe you'd rather go eat a lot, 411 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:44,160 but slowly so you don't have to go as fast or or whatever. 412 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,880 So there are a few different avenues you can make money. 413 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:49,200 No, very cool, man, very cool. So it comes like the different 414 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,400 types of foods, like independent of the actual competitions or 415 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,800 training days in which you're eating the food that you're 416 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:57,720 going to be consuming at the competition. 417 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,840 What is your normal daily intake? 418 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,280 Is it like like as far as types of foods goes, is it more like 419 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,440 low carb? Is it more like a mixed diet? 420 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,120 Like what is your? What do you gravitate too 421 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:10,920 naturally? So now it's, it's much, much, 422 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,840 much lower carbohydrates than it was. 423 00:22:13,360 --> 00:22:15,320 I never really had issues. Like people always thought that 424 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,520 the carbohydrates are super high. 425 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,160 You're like, oh, what's your like, you know, resting blood 426 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,720 glucose or like when you wake up and what have you. 427 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,400 I've I've never even tested over 100, You know, which obviously 428 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,160 it starts to get into danger zone, but you would think 429 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,320 somebody just battering 700 grams of carbs of hydra, grams 430 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,280 of carbs a day would have gotten up there. 431 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,680 But I think staying lean definitely helps that staying 432 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,440 active. But for the most part, like my 433 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:45,120 breakfast will typically be like 15 grams of veggie protein, like 434 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:48,240 vegetarian from like pee and rice, 20 grams of whey isolate 435 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,880 and two old pasteurized eggs, not mixed together obviously, 436 00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,040 but like something like that. And then usually like 3 to 4G of 437 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,200 fish oil. So basically no carbohydrates 438 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,400 other than a greens powder that I'll mix in the protein shakes, 439 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,720 about negligible 3 grams of carbohydrates, something like 440 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,960 that in there. And then ashwagandha, rhodiola, 441 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,400 few other supplements like that, saffron and you just try to have 442 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:18,960 a pretty nutrient dense breakfast. 443 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,320 And then throughout the day I'll typically do another way. 444 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,480 I select shake. It'll typically have some type 445 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,640 of nut butter. I really like sesame butter. 446 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,600 I just love the flavor. And my I, I started getting it 447 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,240 because they wouldn't let peanut butter in my kids daycare 448 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,480 because of allergies. And I'm like, so I got that 449 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,680 they'd allow it and I'm like, wow, this is really good. 450 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,480 This taste really good. So I started just stealing that 451 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:47,400 from the kids stash with something like that, a way I 452 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,400 slit shake and one other meal during the day will typically be 453 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,640 like 8 to 10 ounces of chicken breast and a whole avocado. 454 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,960 And then breakfast will typically be or excuse me, 455 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,920 dinner will typically be maybe like a pound of grass fed beef 456 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,480 or bison. I really, really like when I can 457 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,480 find it on sale like a game meets. 458 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,120 I'm a huge fan of the leanness of that will vary. 459 00:24:10,120 --> 00:24:14,840 If I get a super lean cut and it was a training day or a yeah 460 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,440 training day, I might incorporate carbohydrates there. 461 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960 It's a non training day. I'll typically use a fattier cut 462 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,960 and incorporate like some spinach or something cooked into 463 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:26,880 the side or just throw it in the blender and drink it and that's 464 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,560 and then another dose of fish oil. 465 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,440 I like to do pretty heavy doses of Omega threes and then some 466 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,040 more supplements on a training day. 467 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,960 The way that's going to change is basically take the eggs out 468 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,320 of the morning breakfast and have grits or cream or rice, 469 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:43,440 maybe 30 to 50 grams intra workout carbohydrate. 470 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:48,120 It's from like a carbolin or a something of that nature. 471 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,360 Some type of easy to digest. Like I never did well with the 472 00:24:50,360 --> 00:24:54,320 tar go, but I was kind of set heavy with me in dextrose. 473 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,000 I feel it on my teeth and excuse me now and then EA as and 474 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,320 creatine monohydrate. Then I'll do like a good amount 475 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,160 of whatever the warm cereal is, post workout cream, rice grits 476 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,240 pretty and then pretty much everything stays the same 477 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,800 throughout the rest of the day. Maybe you know, the shake with 478 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:14,040 peanut butter, maybe another whatever. 479 00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:17,600 But so the biggest difference is basically the calories from fat 480 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,880 will be replaced with a slightly more calories and they'll be 481 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,640 replaced with carbohydrates on training days. 482 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:28,160 So really I train probably four days a week now, like weight 483 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,800 train. So three days a week, my 484 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:36,920 carbohydrates are easily sub 100 grams by sub 60 grams most days. 485 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,120 And then four days a week my carbohydrates are probably only 486 00:25:40,120 --> 00:25:43,680 about 200, which I understand that's not only to some people, 487 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,520 but for me, you know? And and it takes a good amount 488 00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:51,240 of restriction too, because bear in mind somebody can fit 20 lbs 489 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,880 of something one time that does 200 grams of carbohydrates don't 490 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,520 go a long way. Satiating me like I'm almost 491 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:04,000 never satiated during the week. Normally until it gets closer to 492 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:09,400 a training day it then it's just very very hungry all the time. 493 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Yeah. I mean, I would imagine 494 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:13,800 especially with you being as lean as you are, like you're, 495 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,680 you're probably producing a pretty significant degree of 496 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,800 ketones on your your off days from training when the carbs are 497 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,760 super low. So I would imagine you're you're 498 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,960 the body's fat metabolism is relatively on par with someone 499 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:28,640 that's following a pretty well ketogenic diet. 500 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,200 When you eat like that and then you crash 50 plus Donuts, you 501 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,400 know like is that is that causing any massive GI distress 502 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,680 for you? Yeah, but I, I think I'm, I, I 503 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,400 would like to see like a study done. 504 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:49,840 I would love to go into like a, some type of university and, and 505 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,920 kind of be a test monkey, so to speak and see like what happens 506 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,240 with me compared to obviously you can't have a regular person 507 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,520 eat 60 moon pies. But I would like to be able to 508 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,360 check like, OK, when we gave a regular person this much food 509 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,200 versus when we gave Nick this much food. 510 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:10,400 How fast is like gastric emptying? 511 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,680 What's the hormone production? What's the enzyme production? 512 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:17,240 Because I imagine I have to imagine doing this for seven 513 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:24,960 years, I've formed some form of adaptation to that discomfort or 514 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,480 even like my body is, it's not as foreign to my body to dump 515 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:34,280 in, you know, 200 chicken wings or something of that nature. 516 00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,600 So there's definitely some discomfort. 517 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:38,960 Some foods are worse than others. 518 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Sweets can be pretty rough. Just your body can't produce 519 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:50,600 basically enough insulin if you eat 9 1/2 lbs of fudge and or 520 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,480 something like that, salty or savoury or fatty food, so to 521 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,160 speak, they can be a little bit more rough just like reflux wise 522 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,000 and what have you. And it's they're probably, 523 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,280 they're definitely a little bit harder for your body to break 524 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:09,320 down like the meaty foods. But I think varying my diet and 525 00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,360 I take a pretty, pretty decently dosed prebiotic and probiotic 526 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:18,880 supplement and enzymes around my contest and stuff. 527 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:23,240 And then so I think keeping my GI track healthy and efficient 528 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,920 is super duper important. That's, that's basically like 529 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,320 doing oil changes in a car for, for a NASCAR driver or something 530 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,320 like that. Do you feel like? 531 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:37,880 Like do you go train like weight train the day after a contest or 532 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,520 like and if you do you notice like just typically pumps? 533 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,840 Yeah, typically I will, depending on the contest, if 534 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,160 it's a heavy meat contest, I'll typically do slightly more 535 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,920 cardio and I'll, I'll, I'll weight train. 536 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,840 But it's what I would refer to just pushing blood around almost 537 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,720 like, you know, the day after a body blink show you're like you 538 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,080 don't want to tear something. So because typically that's 539 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,360 still kind of sitting in my GI tract and pumps are OK. 540 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,880 I just more so feel bloated because there's so much blood 541 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,760 flow in my GI tract now after like Donuts, like 61 Donuts in 542 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:17,400 DC and about 30 hours later, like later in the day, the next 543 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600 day I went and trained and I felt like I was going to burst, 544 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,240 you know, like that was that was a pump and a half in, in my 545 00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,160 face, in my hands, you know, everything like really good 546 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,000 forearm pumps. So, so yeah, some days it's 547 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,800 really, really solid. But but I've kind of just 548 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,720 learned for me, there's always experimenting and what have you. 549 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,920 So like this year I did some experimenting and going into a 550 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:45,560 podcast, like how can I be not starving so that I can be 551 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,680 efficient at the table? Because I still, it's crazy. 552 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,840 What we do is you're still pushing your body to the limit 553 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,200 for 6:00 to 12:00 minutes at a time. 554 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,680 And if you don't have any calories in there and you're 555 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760 completely faster, you have no electrolytes. 556 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,240 Like things are not going to go well. 557 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,320 Because I've tried, I've tried it. 558 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,280 It's just not. So it's one of those things 559 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,880 where, like you go to, you can feel yourself going slow and 560 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,760 you're like, and here we go and go fast and your body's like, 561 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,560 yeah, dude, no, I don't want to play. 562 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,880 And so that's actually this year where I started incorporating 563 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,360 kind of keto bricks into the mix. 564 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840 And they really like kind of how things have been going. 565 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,800 Yeah, like I said, I mean, I've talked to people from all 566 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:23,960 different competitive backgrounds. 567 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,920 I know people that use the bricks for all different 568 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,640 competitive backgrounds, but when I, I don't even know how we 569 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,000 got in contact, I guess to Instagram initially and you were 570 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,680 using the bricks in preparation for these contests. 571 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:38,440 And I never in a million years would have imagined that being a 572 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,920 use case scenario. So like how, how do you do that? 573 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,360 Like what's? What's been the benefit there? 574 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,320 So for me it's, it's like I want a decent amount of calories and 575 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:52,160 I want my electrolytes and I also want to maintain mental 576 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,920 focus, but basically have a virtually empty GI tract. 577 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,000 That's my goal. And that's a really tough 578 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840 balance because it kind of doesn't add up. 579 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,640 So for a long time, all that what I would do is about 24 580 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:08,040 hours out, give or take, I would drink some mag citrate, make 581 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,320 sure everybody leaves the GI tract. 582 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,520 And then I would kind of live on, you know, Gatorades, coconut 583 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,360 waters, things of that nature. And I'd absolutely love coconut 584 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,640 water, especially like I think harmless hardest and and there's 585 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,760 one more brand like those are insanely good. 586 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,040 Coco Joy. That's the other one. 587 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,120 I absolutely love it. But two things. 588 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,600 If you drink a ton of coconut water, it leaves as fast as it 589 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:39,240 goes in A&B, your blood sugar doesn't balance out great. 590 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,200 If you're doing it for 24 hours, you kind of get a good amount of 591 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:47,720 peaks of valleys and in which case your focus is typically not 592 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,640 as good as it should be. So I'm like, OK, how do I find 593 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,080 that balance to where everything in my brain is firing 594 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,960 efficiently, but I still have, I can maintain electrolyte balance 595 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:03,800 and all that. And I, I think I came across 596 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:09,440 them because Dominic d'agostino had posted and huge fan of DOMS. 597 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,960 Just as a human being, he's phenomenal and just he's 598 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,080 insanely in hell yeah, dude's insane. 599 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,440 Like he's the nicest guy ever, most soft spoken guy I've ever 600 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,600 seen just go over and like a rip 675 off the ground like it's a 601 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,200 toy and a pair of jeans and like a button down T-shirt. 602 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,120 Yeah, yeah, you know, Oh, OK, you're you're superhuman. 603 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,440 But he's I'm like, OK, if Dom recommends it, this is not going 604 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,240 to be a guy who's going to just like chill Prada and whatever. 605 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,040 It's because he truly believes in it. 606 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,240 So I'm like, let me give these a shot. 607 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,200 Ordered a few, I think the first one I ordered was the steak 608 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,400 shake one, the Mark Bell one. You know, I guess it's super 609 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,880 interesting. I love the idea of some organ 610 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,200 meats and stuff in there. And I got it and I'm like, OK, 611 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,520 firstly, this tastes awesome because I wasn't sure what to 612 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:57,800 expect. I'm like, is this going to taste 613 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,040 like I'm eating, you know, like Palmer's cocoa butter like this 614 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:05,320 is really good. And I found is like, I could 615 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,520 still, I, I still will drink maybe a, I'll take like mag 616 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,000 citrate or magnesium glycinate. It just powdered now in a 617 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,840 smaller, a much smaller dose. And I could do that maybe that 618 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,240 let's say I was doing hot dogs at noon the next day, the night 619 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,520 before, I could have maybe 20% of a brick. 620 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:28,040 So get a couple 100 calories before I go to bed, wake up, 621 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,800 still have a reasonable like bowel movement. 622 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,680 And then I'll even melt like maybe a 10th of a brick, give or 623 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,920 take. Obviously I'm not measuring it 624 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,280 out, but pretty damn close into my cough that I have in the 625 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,360 morning and it just melts into the coffee And that flavour 626 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,320 melted into coffee is like ridiculous. 627 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,240 So good melts into the coffee drink that. 628 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520 And basically, obviously it's going to take up some form of 629 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,760 room because that oil is going to slightly re solidify, you 630 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,920 know, as it goes through. But almost no room in my GI 631 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,120 tract. And what I found is the ounce of 632 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,520 space that maybe it takes up in my, in my intestine or my colon, 633 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,520 the trade off to the mental focus I got the first time and 634 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,600 not feeling like there's nothing in the tank. 635 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,199 I felt faster, I felt more focused. 636 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,320 And then, and again, if we listening to this, I'm not 637 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,679 saying that there's something magic in the keto brick. 638 00:34:21,679 --> 00:34:24,800 I'm saying it just fit perfectly for what I was trying to do 639 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,159 because it it, it gave me that energy and it gave me, I still 640 00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:32,199 could have some like sodium, potassium, magnesium coursing 641 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,320 through me and not feel like, OK, I woke up at 5:30 in the 642 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,159 morning with my 2 year old. I'm dying by noon and want to 643 00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:44,320 rip someone's head off, but not in a positive competitive way 644 00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:47,800 like that. So it's just been, it's been 645 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:53,679 awesome for that. It's just that I, and I never 646 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,360 would have expected it because obviously fats are going to 647 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,080 process slightly slower than than carbohydrates. 648 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,000 So the way I always thought is like how fast can they get 649 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,320 something through my system? So it was always, you know, way 650 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,280 isolates EA as and I still incorporate EA as basically with 651 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,840 some electrolytes as I sip on them. 652 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:14,320 But by doing this, my insulin level staying steady just seems 653 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,960 to put me in a much better mind state, almost even more 654 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,040 important than ones doing physically at which obviously 655 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,480 important mentally I feel much better and much clearer going 656 00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,760 into the contest. So you're literally having less 657 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,880 than half a brick 24 hours prior to the contest. 658 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,240 And that's the use case scenario for you to kind of prime the 659 00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:36,520 pump, so to speak, but give you the electrolytes and just some 660 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:40,040 form of easily digestible fat source that's given your brain 661 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,680 and your body kind of like a primer for what's about to come. 662 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:45,760 Yeah, I would say depending on the contest and what I'm going 663 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,840 to do, like if it's what I would refer to as a non full capacity 664 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,720 contest, like I know I'm not going to need all my my real 665 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:53,800 estate. I'll probably do closer to a 666 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,240 whole brick and it's somewhere between half and a whole brick, 667 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,280 probably where it's going to fall depending on how late in 668 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:04,560 the day I'm going if we're traveling the contest itself. 669 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,760 But just I just feel much better mentally. 670 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,720 It, it just, it just pans out for me to be able to have that 671 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,080 fuel that's not taking up any space. 672 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,640 So for me, it's been absolutely phenomenal. 673 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,160 And then it's if my 6 year old and my 6 year old is a string 674 00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,320 being the kid eats constantly. The string being, it's also just 675 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520 been a great tool for him because he thinks he's basically 676 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,920 effectively getting a chocolate bar. 677 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,400 And I'm just giving the kids some healthy sources of fats 678 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,600 and, you know, trace proteins and carbohydrates. 679 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:33,920 And he's just psyched. So I'm like, OK, dude, perfect. 680 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,480 You know, so he he uses it for different purposes, but but for 681 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,080 me it's been been awesome in the prep itself. 682 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,160 No. Very cool, man. 683 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,600 Very cool. Yeah, I feel like they from, 684 00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:46,640 from a competitive eating standpoint, I'd be curious to 685 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,520 see the bricks be used as the item to consume. 686 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,920 I mean, when it comes to food sources, I mean, you talk about 687 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,600 blueberries here coming up, you talk about the hot dogs, the 688 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,240 Bratwurst. Like what what is the, what is 689 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:00,720 the, the most challenging component? 690 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:03,240 Is it just like the total calories or the volume? 691 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,680 Like what? Cause like obviously the 692 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,200 blueberries are gonna have significantly less calories in 693 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520 the Bratwurst, but quite a bit more volume. 694 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,320 So like, how do you kind of you know what, what, what is harder? 695 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,800 That's tough. You know, I think it depends on 696 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,080 the person. Everyone's got different 697 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,440 strengths and weaknesses, but I from what I've seen, there 698 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,760 hasn't really been studies done on competitive eaters because 699 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,200 we're kind of a pretty niche group. 700 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,120 But I would say there's some down regulation of receptors 701 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,480 that sense calorie load because they're almost has to versus 702 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,360 like mechano receptors will always fire, but we kind of 703 00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,360 you're trained to fight against that. 704 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,080 But those receptors that sense space, they they are eventually 705 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:39,520 going to go slow down, slow down, slow down. 706 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,400 OK, no room, you know, but the ones that sense calorie load, 707 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,520 obviously after I've eaten 10 hot dogs and I'm 3000 calories 708 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,840 deep, there's no reason for me to eat more, but I still got to 709 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,560 try to pack another 40 or 50 in there. 710 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,440 So I would say it's, it's really about space. 711 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,000 Total space is probably the most challenging. 712 00:37:59,960 --> 00:38:02,440 Sometimes it's like obviously it's chicken wings or ribs. 713 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,880 That's very much technique, figuring out how you can de meat 714 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,880 a rib or chicken wing the fastest. 715 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:15,600 But for, for other foods like brats or fudge or, you know, 716 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,040 poutine we're going to be doing in Toronto next month. 717 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,960 It's really about how fast can you get the food down and how 718 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,520 well can you tolerate it. Because like when I first 719 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,320 started, I could probably fit about, I'd say about 8 lbs with 720 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,160 my top capacity. Now I'd say it's close to like 721 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,720 18 to 20, probably top capacity depending on the density of the 722 00:38:35,720 --> 00:38:38,000 food. That's insane, man. 723 00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,720 I mean, like, from a sheer calorie standpoint, it'd be 724 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:44,040 crazy to see like a competition done on bricks because that's 725 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,760 obviously not near such volume. But I mean the 1000 calories per 726 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,000 brick. How many bricks do you think you 727 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,880 can eat in the sitting? Oh man, they're like a little 728 00:38:50,880 --> 00:39:00,960 over 5 oz, probably 3 pounds, maybe something maybe like 4045 729 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,360 or something like that for my body to start. 730 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,280 Filing calories in a sitting man that would be that's. 731 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,040 True. Way too many. 732 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,160 It'd be way too many. Yeah. 733 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,480 I think my body may start to fight me ahead of that when my 734 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:17,400 enzyme production is like, you know, you know, when you're in a 735 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,760 submarine, like those movies where the red lights are going 736 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,320 off, like we, we. That probably would happen 737 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,320 before that. It's crazy because like there's 738 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,240 been a few people that have tried to do like bricks only for 739 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,160 like a week or something. And I've never condoned that. 740 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,920 Like I'm like, it's, it's in addition to a quality meat 741 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,960 source is how I've always advocated for it. 742 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,960 But like, I would be curious to see you eat 45 bricks in a 743 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,320 sitting. And I, I wouldn't recommend 744 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:40,920 people do that. But I mean, I would pay to see 745 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,480 that, you know? Oh dude, yeah, that'd be it. 746 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:47,040 Would definitely be interesting. I know when I did like the 9 1/2 747 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,960 lbs of fudge, my body was not psyched because I also use 748 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,040 coffee as my drinking liquid because it was bitter and I 749 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,240 didn't want more sweet. So it kind of it helps with the 750 00:39:55,240 --> 00:39:57,720 flavor fatigue. I'll use bitter stuff against 751 00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:00,040 sweets and I'll use sweet stuff against like salty. 752 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,400 And basically what that ended up being was like probably half a 753 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,680 gallon of coffee to go along with 9 1/2 lbs of fudge. 754 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,960 You can imagine my body was a little confused on what to do 755 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,880 next. So do you get to pick your own 756 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,560 drink like you get to pick whatever you want? 757 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:17,680 Yeah. Yeah, you can put pretty much 758 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:22,360 any any beverage of choice you can use for for the contest. 759 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,200 And I would imagine like for me, if I'm going to get a ton of 760 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,200 food, like when I come out of my preps, like I typically go to a 761 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,880 Brazilian steakhouse as my celebratory meal, 'cause it's 762 00:40:31,240 --> 00:40:33,560 what I found after my first competition. 763 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,920 I lost 80 lbs in 12 weeks for that show and I went to Red 764 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,240 Lobster. This was before I was keto and I 765 00:40:40,240 --> 00:40:41,880 literally put on 20 lbs overnight. 766 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,000 I just binged on everything. I didn't know what a rebound 767 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,960 was. I was clueless. 768 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,120 But since then and since being keto, like I've always defaulted 769 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,360 to going to Brazilian Steakhouse as my last show's celebratory 770 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,360 meal. And I've had that I could eat 771 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:57,480 like, I mean, I could eat like this last one. 772 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,760 I tracked everything. I ate 8000 calories, 7700 773 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:05,120 calories after that last show and I lost weight the next day, 774 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,960 which was trippy, you know? But like the, the types of foods 775 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,880 make such a drastic impact on the types of flu retention you 776 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:17,640 can expect, etcetera, etcetera. But I would imagine like when 777 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,160 I'm eating like that, I don't typically drink a lot of fluid. 778 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,840 Like I like to just consume, you know, food. 779 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,400 And I would imagine if you're eating, you know, 70 brats, if 780 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,880 you're drinking a lot of fluid as well, like there's like a, a 781 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,520 tipping point there in which you got to have enough lubrication, 782 00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,600 I'm, I'm assuming to wash everything down. 783 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,600 But if you drink too much, like you're just defeating the 784 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,640 purpose. Yeah. 785 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,080 No, man, it's it's tough man, because you want to be able to 786 00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:46,520 do minimum amount of fluid possible in order to to get 787 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,240 everything down because you want to save your real estate. 788 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:50,600 Gotcha. OK, that makes sense. 789 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,640 That makes sense. Does some people like some 790 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,960 people do this, like some competitors that you're amongst, 791 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:02,960 like they purge after these massive intakes or do they keep 792 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,480 it all down? I mean, I can't speak for other 793 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:06,920 people. I know personally, that's not my 794 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,080 thing because I don't want to like kind of breathe that 795 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,120 reflex, you know, over time because your body will be like, 796 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,720 Oh, I know how to feel better and what have you. 797 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,360 And so it's not my deal, but I, I can't speak for everybody, you 798 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,920 know, but I know like for the most part, we, it's a job 799 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,600 hazard. You're going to eat 15,000 800 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,560 calories. You got to deal with the 801 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,360 repercussions, eating, you know, whatever, 60 Moon Pies or what 802 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:28,160 have you. Man, yeah, I would imagine, I 803 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,200 mean, like, 'cause I used to do that when I was struggling with 804 00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,800 disorder eating in, you know, early bodybuilding days. 805 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,920 And it's like you certainly don't want to advocate for that. 806 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,600 You almost just got to like, let your body process it. 807 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,560 But a lot of people too, they are under the assumption that if 808 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:44,200 you eat, you know, massive bowls of food like that, your body 809 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,200 can't possibly absorb that many calories in one acute setting. 810 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,400 So that's kind of how they justified. 811 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,160 Do you have a, a stance on that? Like if you eat 15,000 calories 812 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,400 in Moon Pies like is your body? I'm sure your pet, Yeah. 813 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,120 No, I'm sure your pet. I mean, you're absorbing it in 814 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,600 the sense that you're going to pass it, but I'm sure you're 815 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,520 going to pass some of it. There's only so much you can 816 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,800 break down at one time, I believe. 817 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,160 Yeah, and that's wild, man. What what's been the the most 818 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,840 challenging food that was chosen for a competition? 819 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:13,680 Like what's what's the the nightmare food for you? 820 00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,920 Spam was pretty tough. Spam out of the can was. 821 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,680 Pretty tough, could you like was it just plain spam can after 822 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,640 can? Oh yeah, yeah, just can after. 823 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,040 I mean, they took it out of the can for us. 824 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,320 It was just spam on a plate. Oh man, that's that's wild man. 825 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,200 What's what's been the best one? Which one do you actually like? 826 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,240 Enjoy the process of. I mean, I love chicken wings. 827 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,360 I love ribs. They're two my favorite 828 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,120 contests. Patios was fun, Bratwurst and 829 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,760 Cincinnati was a lot of fun. I mean, it's it's tough and a 830 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,040 lot of them are fun for different reasons. 831 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,280 You get to experience cultures, you get to meet cool people. 832 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,360 Like it's fun. Very cool, man. 833 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,680 And the one you get coming up is the hot dog one, right? 834 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,240 The Nathan's hot dog. That was July 4th was Nathan's 835 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:03,560 now I got blueberries July 13th, I got chicken Nuggets on the 836 00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,600 26th and then poutine on August 9th. 837 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,960 Is there like how, how much lead time do they give you as far as 838 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,360 like the food that's going to be coming? 839 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,440 It depends like sometimes a couple months, sometimes it's 840 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,960 like a month, sometimes we know like five months in advance. 841 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:21,040 And it depends on the context, like probably when the you know 842 00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,400 when they figure out the logistics. 843 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,960 And this is maybe just, you know, going into the esoteric on 844 00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,840 this, but like in in the keto low carb carnivore space, like 845 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:35,000 there's a lot of there's a lot of fear mongering around certain 846 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,440 foods, which I'm not really an advocate for. 847 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,920 I'm all for people consuming the best quarter they can. 848 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,600 But like right now, you know, seed oils is obviously on 849 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000 everybody's lips. It's like the freaking next 850 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:49,040 thing to the demon Satan or something, which is likely grown 851 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,440 out of proportion to some extent. 852 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,720 They're probably some truth to everything, but like when you 853 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,320 consume like a whole bunch of chicken Nuggets, like I'm 854 00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,760 assuming these are probably not quality top and high shelf 855 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,440 chicken Nuggets. It's probably like the bottom of 856 00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,840 the barrel I'm assuming, right? Oh, it's a Wendy's contest. 857 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,760 So as far as fast food goes, like I love Wendy's like spicy 858 00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:08,160 nugs, you know, they're really good. 859 00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,240 These are not going to be non spicy, but but yeah, it depends 860 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:14,160 on the contest. I do think Wendy's actually uses 861 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,560 white meat chicken in theirs compared to some some places. 862 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,720 So I think as far as fast food goes, we're probably on top of 863 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:24,320 the top shell. But but yeah, it, it really 864 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,520 depends. Like I said, we we do all these 865 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,680 different contests. And I really think the biggest 866 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,360 thing is, like you said, you don't like to demonize food is 867 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,160 like the habit is more important than the singular source. 868 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,200 Yeah. You know, if, if you're drinking 869 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,360 a bottle of canola oil every day, it's probably going to be a 870 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,280 problem. If you cook your kids brownies 871 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,000 once a month with canola oil or vegetable oil or something like 872 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,040 that, it's likely not going to be an issue because a lot of 873 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,120 times people throwing those things around were like, oh, 874 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,200 canola oil is going to kill you. Are the same people that like 875 00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:55,440 smoke or maybe drink or, or they're fifteen, 2030 lbs 876 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,800 overweight or what have you. So like, I think ultimately it's 877 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,720 just going to be about like total habit. 878 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:02,040 No, that makes total sense man. I completely agree. 879 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,960 Is it like a specific phenotype that describes most compositions 880 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,440 of competitive leaders? Like most of them are not as 881 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,480 jacked as you right? No, most of them are in probably 882 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,840 average or slightly better than average shape. 883 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,120 You know, there's getting into 6 to 8 used to play college 884 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,600 basketball. There's, you know, Mickey's 885 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,240 super active. My wife, you know, Joey just 886 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,440 kind of looks like a guy and is really active around the 887 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,960 contest. Jeff Esper used to do, I think 888 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:28,680 he used to do amateur strongman contest. 889 00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,480 James Webb played I believe, collegiate soccer. 890 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,520 So there's some people, there's typically some athletes and and 891 00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,280 people who are probably slightly above average shape that do it 892 00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,000 at a high level. They're probably not that many 893 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,920 obese competitive leaders, I wouldn't think, because then 894 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,200 from like a metabolic standpoint, like you're not 895 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,040 going to really have the appetite in that acute setting, 896 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,520 I wouldn't think. Yeah. 897 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,000 No, no, there's, there's a couple obviously just like 898 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,120 anything, but there's, there's definitely not too, too many. 899 00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,200 Very interesting. Well, I'm super intrigued, man. 900 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,400 Is this stuff televised? Like what? 901 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,440 Can I watch you slam a bunch of blueberries? 902 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,680 Yeah, I know there's a the television sometimes like check 903 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:07,800 out majorleagueeating.com and they'll give you any updates and 904 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,200 things like that. If you're doing live streams and 905 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,520 what have you or people follow people follow me on on Instagram 906 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,640 or any social media thing, just my name, Nick Weary, and I try 907 00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,680 to tell those things or if I know if one of the other 908 00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,280 competitors is live streaming it, I'll try to share the link. 909 00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,560 Very cool, man. Well, I love what you're doing. 910 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,120 I'm I'm super intrigued, but I think it's awesome that you come 911 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:29,320 from the bodybuilding background. 912 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,720 You've been able to lean into this competitive eating as a 913 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:34,400 competitive outlet. If there's everything I can do, 914 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,760 man, you just let me know. I'm I'm happy to keep supplying 915 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,800 you bricks because using that in your use case scenarios is just 916 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,480 cool in my opinion. So keep rocking it, brother. 917 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:44,840 Appreciate you man. Thank you so much. 918 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,560 You bet Nick, have a good man and best of luck. 919 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:48,640 Yeah, you too later. See you bud.