What's going on is James Roberts.
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I've got special guest Colton Milton back on the podcast.
For round two. We do fall into his recent
competition prep Endeavors, he just got done doing a
competition few weeks back. He's doing another to this
competitive season, so we dive all into the trials and
tribulations of this competition prep form.
What he's done with his nutrition.
He's been following a lot of my protocol for my book.
I mix it up a little bit with regard to his peak week, so I
kind of wanted to pick his brain on that.
He is not one of my clients but he's been like, said it going
through Through my protocol. So I honestly just want to
figure out how that worked for him.
What he liked, we didn't like etcetera, Etc, but he's
absolutely killing it, thoroughly enjoyed the
conversation. Always enjoy catching up with
Colt. I've got no doubt that you will
take something from this. So that for their do is sit
back, relax and do a podcast with Colt Milton and we alive
cult Milton. How are you again man?
I'm doing wonderful. How you doing sir?
I am doing wonderful as well. So the last time I had you on a
podcast when was that how many months ago was that it was it
was it more than it was a year ago yet.
Wasn't last time I was on your show was in I think it was about
a year ago actually. Yeah a lots happened since then
you just got done doing a pretty well, carnivore prep, right?
Yeah. I followed your book as gospel
for the most part so started with Phase one, which is the
Baseline and then moved into phase two, which is the protein
threshold, phase 3, macros phase for refeeds.
And I really didn't do anything different than what is then,
what is in your book. Everything was the tea until
peak week and about two or three weeks out.
And the reason that I felt confident enough to Do macros
that I felt what to use macros. That would work better with my
body was because at that point, the couple clients that we were
training for this show either decided on doing a show a couple
months later or just didn't want to do or just didn't want to do
it this show anymore. Just got burnt out.
Yeah you know how it goes that. You don't want to step on stage
and less everything's. And unless everything is ready,
it does take a toll on your family, I'm not going to lie.
My wife, my kids and my dog have all been extremely supportive
and extremely patient and it has worn on our relationships.
But that's when it comes down to Super setting your life.
You know, this is a temporary thing.
It's not sustainable to do this, as you know, all the time.
It's not sustainable to be stage shredded into be competing all
the time and it's a lot of focus on you, which, for me at this
point, Trying to focus on God and trying to focus on family.
Having this much attention is it can get to your head and it's a
real test to your pride in your character.
What you do with that and how you Steward that kind of
exposure. Yeah, that being said, if I
never ever pushed somebody to do a show unless they really want
to do it. And there's a very convincing
reason as to why that would be a good idea for them to do know
that being said, Said, yeah, that being said the next next to
shows, you know, we got Melanie and we got a couple other, we
got a couple other people that are locked in for November and
that are right on track there but this one ended up just being
just being me. So I didn't feel the.
So I so I felt confident enough to gamble a little bit and try
what, I know has worked for me in the past when I did a mock
competition prep, similar to what you did.
So that so Phase 5, which I believe is peak week.
I was peak week, I started using a started getting really,
really, I guess, very aggressive.
You can say with the protein as far as the macro ratios, go.
And as far as phases six and seven go, I guess there's no,
there's no phases in your book for what to do if you have a
show in a couple weeks. So I'm just kind of repeating
phases, four and five until until we're done.
And then we're going to go two phases 6 and 7 with probably a
little higher protein, but other than that, it's been It's been
like you're coaching me and holding my hand the entire way
man, and I just can't thank you enough for everything.
Let's crazy man. It's awesome.
Because I mean like you're not one of my clients but you've
read the book and you I mean you get more sticky notes in that
book than I've ever seen. You probably get more sticky
notes and then there are pages. But it's kind of cool for me to
hear. What your prep experience has
been like in using the book. I mean, my goal with the book
was to make something that you know people could just pick up
and use as opposing to have to pay for a coach or do.
In crazy like that. So hopefully it's been a good
resource for you. But the the higher protein yet
talking about that because I sent you sent me an email with,
like a screenshot of, you know what your Macros are been like
for peak week and your proteins, way the heck up there.
And if I consume that much protein, at that point in a
prep, I feel a lot more bloat, but, but I guess you're not
experiencing that because you were doing like 300 + grams of
protein for that, you know, refeed meal.
That's that's yeah, that's on a on the low end.
I would say that right now. My refeeds, they're pushing the
envelope. Quite a bit past that.
Now at least 400 grams is what I'm going to need for this next
show because the last one was everything was done around mid
afternoon. This next show that I'm doing in
a week and a half is going to be all day and that's going to
require that I am full all day and that's going to require
that's going to probably require me not The time to stop and
snack and eat meals throughout the day, because my focus isn't
going to be on me there. My focus is going to be on my
client Melanie. She's stepping on stage for the
first time and looks absolutely spectacular and she's not even
on the ketogenic diet, just for the record.
When she reached out to us, she was just like, I want you.
I want you and Taylor to coach me, but do I have to go Kita?
I was like, no. Most the competitors that we've
trained have been the old school way, actually?
And so she was like, okay, But so that be that being said,
whenever I've whenever I've consumed an insane amount of
protein, right before I go to bed, as you know, that all gets
converted to glucose to glycogen through a process called
gluconeogenesis. So in theory, that would knock
you out of ketosis, I don't know why it doesn't knock me out of
ketosis but I enjoy it. I Take my time, and I eat that.
I mean, this takes two hours at least for me to eat the three or
four pounds of steak that that gets made to that level of
protein. And so I'm not really bloated
because I'm making sure that it digests all the way.
And I know, I know you're not a fan of alcohol but having but
having a just one drink, either a glass of wine.
It's usually date night too, so whatever.
Taylor wants to drink. I'm down for it.
And so, will make Manhattan's or woman sugar.
Free Man. Hands woman will make
Manhattan's will make make will pour a glass of wine or a little
glass of whiskey or something and that has helped the
digestion quite a bit as well as maybe a tea here in there and
having all my water, I drank pretty much up until before.
Like after I get the tan and everything right.
Before I hit that, I eat that big meal because I Most of that
protein, right before bed, probably about 300 grams of
right before bed. I wake up and I can feel it, my
stomach, but I wouldn't describe it as being bloated.
Like, if I wanted to go for a run, I could do it.
If I wanted to make love to my wife, scuse my language, I
could, I could I could do it if I especially because I'm on the
ketogenic diet, which has a lot of benefits compared to cutting
out your fat, your saturated fats early on in your prep as
you because you're doing pretty. Penny Stakes to like when you're
doing that, like, you're not doing, you know, tenderloins or
anything when you're having that much protein as coming from
pretty fatty Cuts, right? Yeah, and so if I was, if I was
tracking calories and if it will, I am tracking calories of
course, but if I was concerned about my calories going too
high, I would definitely make sure that they're all a bit
leaner because even the leanest, steak that you can find has
enough dietary fat, in it to be able to digest, just fine, but
being Ketogenic prep and having become so fat adapted because of
how you lay everything out and how you teach everything.
I feel like my body has become very efficient at what to do
with that fat. Yeah.
No, I totally agree. I feel like, you know, everybody
else, Max, they just sucking down rice cakes, you know, going
into like carb-loading glycogen load, you know, trying to Super
compensate glycogen stores at that point in the prep, you
know, the night before and that To me is just like a asking for
a bunch of gastric distress. Whereas if you're able to just
stick to proteins and fats that, you know, you can assimilate,
well, you really minimize the risk of waking up feeling worse
than you did, you know, they're not perform.
Yeah, not having me not having any vegetables that's night and
day difference. I was the only vegetables.
I was consuming. The whole prep was onions, just
adds flavor and it just it just a little bit with dinner.
But when I cut those out, dude, I notice a night and day
difference. I woke up feeling better in the
morning. I just, I was able to enjoy the
meats, more iced. I've become obsessed with salt
lately. And so, really, most of what a
meeting is just meats and salts. Is crazy.
How much more you crave salt when you're in the end of a
prep? Like when I'm doing a prep.
Yeah. Like if I'm doing a six-month
prep by the last month and a half my craving for sodium is
like 10x that have what it was at the beginning of a prep,
sodium specifically, our electrolytes in general numb and
sodium specifically. Like I I like things salty and
I'll have a lot of salt like on a day-to-day like right now at a
building phase. I'm probably consuming between
four and six thousand milligrams of salt with That fail.
But man I was probably there were days where I was just
craving you know, 10 grams of salt and day.
No problem. You know, with our 10 grams of
sodium a day you know, no problem there towards the end.
I mean I would have like anchovies I would just be salt
in the hell out of everything. I just really crave the salt.
Yeah, but I think I think as long as you're tracking that and
getting it all, dialed in you again, Yeah, my sodium was, I'm
sorry. How much sodium did you say
that? You're consuming right now?
Again, ordered, like, in a building phase, like I'm
normally between about 44 grams on the low end six grams on the
probably, averaged into the Spectrum.
I'll have some nights that are much higher in certain offended
like a Fathead, pizza or something.
I'll have higher sodium because I put anchovies on then, but
towards the end of a prep I'm doing you know, eight sometimes
10 grams Okay, I have to confess, I have not been able to
track my electrolytes as meticulously as you do.
However for what for a while I was the last couple months of
the prep man like it was just a miracle that I did the show and
finished it let alone was able to completely annihilate, my
physique that I had 33 years ago without the ketogenic diet.
And I stand. I still really believe that I
placed as well as well as I could show.
I took that see anybody that beat me just flat-out had more
muscle mass even though I was able to have to develop more
muscle to build more muscle mass than I had at my last show at
this one. Basically, the biggest
compliment that I got was being the most conditioned athlete at
the competition. Yeah, which is something that
I'm happy about and I was never able to accomplish without the
ketogenic diet. But all that being said, our
family, our family was going through a lot, having just moved
and making sure that our clients are always our top priority.
You know, it's like, okay if there's one thing that I can get
away with just kind of winging it and knowing that, I'm at
least within the ballpark, then these electrolytes is, you know,
certainly take a backseat to macros because let's just get
shredded and then if we're shredded and ready for the
stage, then if you screw up here and there on your electrolytes,
it's not the end of the World, you're pretty clear about that
in your book too, but the numbers that I was running
pretty much up through the show were 18 172 milligrams of
sodium. Yeah, 5570 milligrams of
potassium and 1683 milligrams of sodium.
So that's about a two to one ratio from sodium to potassium.
Which is what which is what you recommend.
So it just seems like it's pretty high like like way higher
than even what you do, but but I just crave it and I love it.
And I'm not sure if you've ever seen somebody with quite that
high of a sort of a, if you see, if you've seen those numbers
quite so high. As far as electrolytes go.
Yeah, everyone's got their own unique sweet spot in.
The cool thing is like, you can kind of reset that your body's
equilibrium point at a higher or lower level as long as Is in the
right ratio, you know, like if you're, if you're wanting to set
your body's equilibrium, electrolyte equilibrium point
higher, you can certainly do it as long as you scale sodium and
potassium magnesium up and proportionate levels or down.
Usually, you're better off going up as opposed to going down
because if you go down too low, you're going to have to suffer
from lack of blood pressure and you want to have blood pressure
from, you know, vascularity standpoint step especially like,
during Peak Week, stepping onstage.
Plus you just going to feel better going Have better muscle
contractions while training better recovery, etc, etc.
So, talking about some of the, the trials and tribulations,
man, like the stars never aligned for a prep as anybody's
gonna prep, I know knows, but when did you start officially
prepping and what were some of the big obstacles throughout the
brim? Let's see, so the first and, and
most challenging obstacle was Definitely going into this with
an eating disorder. Yeah.
My my diet was pretty lean in the, the I would say it was low
carb. It was meat based, and not and,
and not 100% straight. Whenever I would whenever we
would land a new client summer, they like fitting.
Only in January, we had we had People in Texas all sign up for
coaching plans, right? So I was like well this is a
cool opportunity. I'm gonna fly down and train
every single one in person and fly back.
It was great. This is a people business as you
know, so we try to do that with as much as we can but with the
traveling and especially being at home and you and I have
talked quite extensively on our about our Eating Disorders,
binging purging making ourselves throw up and that's all
Thankfully in the past. But if anything and if anybody
is hearing this for the first time you can go back in here.
Are I guess our last interview on that Robert show, but that
coming into a prep was a huge concern to Taylor and it was a
huge concern to me, I had been I would say 95% sober like almost
100% sober from that if that's the appropriate used to work at
this, the appropriate word to use, but sugar is a drug I
believe. And I believe that highly
processed foods are basically drugs.
Certainly much more dangerous than something natural like
marijuana and I and I think that they're very, very deadly, if it
doesn't kill you right away, it'll kill you, over the course
of your life. I believe, I believe sugar will
do that for People, maybe not for everybody but have it, but
having having that going into this show, was a big concern.
I was eating, especially because I was eating a lot of food
towards the end of my lean bulk. I'd say I don't test body fat
percentages because none of them were coming but some people just
don't respond to body fat testing.
Very well if they say that I'm too that the in body they're
really expensive. One says that I'm 2% body.
D fat, when I'm definitely over 15 and I can't even see my abs.
So yeah, there's something and this something in the
electricity, or the vibrations of my body that doesn't agree
with it or whatever. But having started at 24 weeks
out, twenty two, twenty three. Twenty this is about a 2324 week
prep. It was a big concern to me.
Reading in your book, the page that talks about eliminating
vegetables, and Illuminating volume is foods and focusing
more on the new Traditional value of the foods and it really
made me look in the mirror and go I have to change, I can't eat
food to feel full and to feel stuffed that's not the goal.
And as you know most bodybuilders really ramp up the
fiber really ramp up the vegetables towards the end of
the pipe. So they feel full and this one I
was like I don't think that's a good idea after listening to FM
as Such as after studying Roberts approach and a lot of
carnivores, even if they're not bodybuilders, but just
carnivores people that embrace the carnivore diet and I was
like, you know what, I think. I really think that going into
this prep, we just need to eliminate vegetables and we need
to focus on because there's no nutritional value but and
vegetables compared to what you can get me.
That's my opinion. And I think that you're pretty
much a part of that too. But coming into this prep, I was
like, this needs to be Exclusively meat-based with the
exception of Quito breaks. Because that's a very high
quality product that's with with a lot of nutritional value in
it, you know, you eat a keto brick and it's, it's not the
same as eating a process. Keto snack from the store?
Yeah. Look at the label that the
ingredients are completely different.
So thank you very much for your invention.
There are several of those throughout my prep, not gonna
lie, I did have to cut them out towards the end because man, if
I have a bite of one of those things, I mean the whole brick
and it's game over. You know, totally man.
So like when you were when you first start the prep, you know,
23 24 weeks ago, like what were you struggling with the like you
weren't doing the binging and purging then per se.
Where, you know, I had a couple Bad episodes at Christmas and I
would say, throughout January and March, that probably binged
encouraged a grand total of four or five times.
And that's usually like, if Family came into town, and there
was like, a whole tonight, a whole bunch of, like, homemade
birthday cake and stuff. Dude, we got, we got people who
went to culinary school in our, in our family.
And so the Temptations were there, and they did get the best
to me a couple times throughout the prep never happened once,
from the start of the prep to the end of the parade.
So yeah, what do you think? Like a lot of people and as I've
said, none of you, as you said, there's probably more people
with disordered eating habits in the bodybuilding.
Use the not and for me you know kind of gravitating towards the
ketogenic approach was honestly probably the single best thing
that helped mitigate that disordered eating response.
Because I think so much of that disordered eating can see stems
from feeling guilty or feeling, you know, less than or like
you're lacking control. Are you beating yourself up
internally? And I feel like a lot of that
stems from eating foods that you inherently know we're not great
quality foods. And some people will, you know,
in the flexible dieting space was say, look food in and of
itself is not bad. You can't look at it like that,
you can improve that relationship, but I think
anybody with half a brain would recognize that there are higher
quality foods and there are lower Quality Foods.
And if you're eating a ton of a lower Quality Foods, I mean it's
probably not optimal for your body.
So people that are eating a bunch of little quality foods
are more amps to feel some sense of guilt in eating those.
And I feel like for me, at least, when I adopted the
ketogenic approach, Within the scope of bodybuilding, I just
never ate low-quality food. So I never had that guilt
associated with it and that that in and of itself allowed me to
not feel the need to binge and Purge.
Yeah, yeah, no. That's that's a, I mean, that's
a wonderful testimony and tear point the the ketogenic diet
along with Along, with other things.
But the ketogenic diet was a huge part of it was a huge part
of Saving me from that. Yeah, I've been, I've been 100%
keto for keto /. Carnivore for two and a half
years now and my say 100%. It's 100% with an asterisk,
because it hasn't been perfect. I'll be 100% transparent.
Completely honest about that. But overall, that has been a
huge contributing factor and being able to like this thing
once and for all. Yeah, totally man.
So What other kind of outside circumstances?
We're driving. That's right.
The prime said you moved right in the middle of it.
That's, that's never easy. Yeah, yeah.
We moved right in the middle of it and it's funny that you ask
because I'm just following the doctor's orders right now and
kicking my feet up on my desk to elevate my foot injury.
That wasn't that was the other stroll, the, the picture of your
foot. But how do you actually like
what happened your foot? Exactly.
What's wrong? What's wrong is?
It's not broken. Really just cut it rope, right?
What exactly happened? Yeah, it's not broken.
It's not infected. And that is a miracle and we
give all the glory to God for saving me from my own stupidity
man. So I so Taylor and I needed to
move our Master press. Have you ever heard of a master
pressed? You know what, you know what
that machine is like a kitchen equipment, right?
No, sorry. It's it's not very well known
but it's man for you and for your gym, like I haven't, I've
never had the opportunity to visit your gym but you're I'm
not sure what you have four square footage there.
But if square footage is a concern and you're trying to get
the most bang for your buck for, like, what you can put in your
gym, bro. This is something that is just
an amazing invention for anybody.
It weighs about 800 pounds and it's an isolated rural isolated
rural for anybody. That doesn't know what that
means. Means you can use both arms at
one time, or you can use one arm at a time or you can alternate,
right? So when you go into a gym and
you see the chest press machine, that's plate, loaded by camera
strength. That's isil, a turtle because
you can either dual your left arm or your right arm or both
arms at the same time. So this this machine is an
isolated, rural bench press and shoulder press that you can set
the arms all the way down to the floor.
So you can And it converges to meaning the arms come together,
right? So if you're doing bench press,
it's freaking awesome. Because there's constant tension
on your pecs the entire time. Even when you lock out, you can
lock out and squeeze in your hands, almost touch.
And you still have tension on your triceps and on your pecs,
you can't do that with a barbell, right?
You can't even do that with dumbbells, really?
Because it, because it converges as opposed to diverging, which
is where the arms come apart. So, this machine, You can use it
for you can set, you can set a bench down set.
The arms up, load the plates on, do a shoulder press, you can
move the arms down and lay down on the bench.
Do a bench press or an incline press or you can set on the
floor. And man, I just was literally
using it right now. Before I walked into this
interview and just nailing the real the rear delts on it.
If you change your foot position your arm position, there's a
million different ways you can hit your rear.
Delts, my wife Taylor is found out how to do hamstring curls on
it and stuff. I mean, she's She's obsessed
with building your hamstrings because she's so quad dominant.
But I mean you can use, you can bet you.
If you're creative enough, you can use this machine to hit
everything very safely, it's great, it's great for training
clients on because you don't have to because you have to spot
them. If they can't push the weight
up, then they just then, just just drop it.
It's okay. You know, like the bar at the
bar is not going to fall on you. The dumbbells not going to fall
on you because it's machine and it's different than anything
everybody's used like it's just it's just a slight different
range of Ocean. So I mean, even in advanced
athlete doing a normal bench, press, you'll get something you
get something out of it. And I'm not, I'm not even
affiliated with this company. So there you go, Mike.
You just probably sounded, like, I'm trying to sell this thing.
No, it's just a cool piece of equipment, man.
Yeah, searched it as you were talking.
So like I have seen that in your gym and that the brain itself is
Master press. The brand itself is Master
press. Yeah and they don't do a lot of
social media. They're not very well known.
I think the the cost on those is Five or six grand.
And we set up a payment plan for a year.
And I think we just made our last payment.
So nice man, one of the best investments we ever made in our
gym. Yep.
What's the lead time on this image?
Trying to get some more equipment for my gym and every
company that I contact us like yeah we got a 20 to 26 week lead
time. No idea.
I don't even I don't even know the manufacturers personally
actually it's the people that resale I bought it from a AER
Fitness which is a reseller here.
Sells my cable attachments, they sell my skull dumbbells, they
sell everything that Taylor and I make, and you're not in our
shop here, skull bells of wise, and so through.
So through them, they had one in stock and we got it right to
them. Nice.
Nice and that Ted's commented on the Taylor.
Just comment on the live and said, we should ask them.
So yeah. Yeah, I like that.
Look at that out for sure. Yeah, we can we can hook you up
with that bro. No problem in.
And then hit like what you were moving.
Then when You moved in that just laying it on your foot somehow.
Okay. Yeah.
So we, we are moving it because we moved and we had and
basically we had to tip it over so we could open the garage door
and shut it long story. But the bottom line is we had to
move this thing so we had to tip it, put it on its side which is
extremely sketchy and this is where my stupidity comes in.
I was not wearing shoes, so I guess it was like at the end of
the day, Mom prep. I'm like it's just freaking do
this and get it over. So we tipped it up and then when
we tipped it back, this thing weighs 800 pounds.
Without any plates on it and it fell on my foot.
Hmm. And there was blood everywhere.
I didn't even know what happened, literally.
Literally like it splattered everywhere.
And I looked at my toe, and my toe, is basically hanging by a
thread. I could see the bone, I can see
the ligaments. I can see everything.
And my wife and I looked at it and we were just like you big to
know scuse me the toe right to the to the left of the door to
the right of the big toe, the one the only have one toe so it
doesn't matter what side is. I guess it's the toe next to the
big toe guys. He gets he gets here, man.
That sounds that sounds brutal. I saw the clip of you moving it
into like the moving vehicle. Like try.
That one was also sketchy but that was before after you busted
your foot. Before that was a few weeks
before and then we moved it into our into our new facility.
And then when we moved into our new facility, the garage door
was having issues. And so we had to have some
garage door guys, come over and fix it, but that Master press
had to move out of the way of the garage door for them to
access and do what they needed to do.
So that's why we had to move it again, man.
There's in how many weeks out from the show.
Were you? When that happened?
I was about Nine or ten weeks out and you couldn't.
I mean, I'm assuming you probably couldn't be doing, you
know, a lot of like squats or things like that, like loading
putting a bunch of weight on your back, and then like having
a lot of pressure on your foot. I would imagine that without the
question, right? Yeah.
And that has been something that has actually affected my
confidence and and affected my physique is I really had to stop
squatting. I had to stop training legs for
a while. I had I had to stop.
I certainly had to stop running and it all became a nightmare.
Yeah, Taylor would like to energy.
Sorry. I was watching this on live, but
your you were four weeks out. It was on our anniversary, we're
your four weeks out, and I felt like it was longer than that.
Now, it was four weeks out. It was, I was like, oh my gosh,
is he going to be able to compete after this?
It was bizarre and then his stitches didn't heal and so the
wound opened immediately after they took them out.
And so he's been having a scene Other doctor for that but you
made it you had a big rap on your foot but it's okay.
Yeah, well, I still got picture, like, you were doing like a way
in and I saw your you took a picture of you on the scale to
get you away. And that was the first time I
saw your foot. There's like, like just gnarly
looking stitches, hanging everywhere and big old gas and
like what in the world happened to this guy's foot so that.
Oh yeah. Basically almost Torres toe off
and where it happened. It was built between it did.
Tear my toe off. The toe is hanging by a thread.
The doctor miraculously sewed, it back together.
Yeah it was bizarre he told me he was like I'm 99% sure we're
just going to have to amputate your toe and you're not gonna
and you're going to have nine toes rest your life and I was
like, okay I mean I got nine other good ones.
What's the what's the what's the big issue so much?
I've heard it's totally fine to have missing toes as long as you
get your big toe whereas if you had to lose your big toe then
like Your balance gets gently, everything just gets jacked.
I mean ideally, you have all 10 toes.
Yeah, but, but that's crazy, man.
So, like not being able to squat, I can imagine.
That would definitely put a damper on retaining, just
overall mass in your lower body. Now, the pictures I saw, I mean,
your lower body was freaking shredded.
Like, you have the composition for sure.
Massive tank separation between your quads and hamstrings like
on your side, poses, but I can see I'm not been able to squat.
Would certainly make retaining just sheer size volume with your
legs, pretty difficult. Yeah basically man just a
shitload of leg extensions and a shitload of freaking hamstring
curls and I've always been glute dominant so I've never I've
never been one to ever ever isolate my glutes.
It's like I never even want to think about training them
because every time I got long femurs.
So whenever I try and quads, I always work my glutes by
accident. Kind of like front delts, right?
Like I never trained front delts because you get It does by
accident when you do bench and overhead presses but but I did
lose a lot of glute Mass I did and the glutes were shredded
veins sticking out of him. Like I've never seen before to
the point to where it hurts to sit down on anything unless I
had three pillows. It's there still like that?
Because I'm in between shows, but that definitely took a toll
on my symmetry losing that that that glute muscle when and at do
you have I really hurt my deadlifting, squat.
Yeah, basically, basically my squad is just a joke.
I mean most of my clients can probably squat more than me
right now. When are you one of the they say
you'd have you know, full recovery?
I can't? What's the wait time on that?
No but nobody knows only God knows because this it's just
such a weird injury man. It's just everybody this look to
it. I've been to Probably three or
four different professional doctors when you professional
doctors, you don't want to see an amateur doctor that's but
after seeing three or four different Specialists, both of
them just kind of stare at it for 10 minutes and go, what the
hell happened? I've never seen anything like
this and I don't even know what to do about it.
Yeah that's well man in like wouldn't happen I went and
actually fell on. You was it like a straightedge
that fell on your total? Was it like like what part of
the equipment? Fill in your foot.
I don't know and just have no idea at all how it all happened.
So fast. All I know, is some something
that something fell on my foot tore, my toe off physically
scientifically. I don't know how it happened and
you say notice it, they didn't even feel it in the moment like,
like, the no, I didn't feel, I didn't feel anything because
like, I don't know if you've ever had a very severe injury or
very severe cut or something, but like, you're basically,
you're He's just kind of in shock, and you don't feel any
pain at that point. And I probably took a and I
probably took a hit a weed right after that, just to calm down.
Yeah, I dropped a 45-pound plate on my toe and broke my toe, but
I said, I definitely felt it and I said all kinds of bad words
after we finish the workout though.
But yeah, I can't imagine like totally obliterate my foot to
the point of like toe Hanging On by a thread with more weeks left
to go until stepping on stains and takes them some mental
resolve right there to keep pushing through.
Hmm. No.
Yeah. Then Taylor decided on the live,
she goes, then your then your stitches didn't heal properly.
What was I mean the the picture I saw we do the scale way it
looked like they're like, I don't know if it looked infected
but it looked like it wasn't a clean heal.
So I'm assuming that that was going on to some extent.
Yeah, so it's feeling now and it's bro, is that it is, it
looks the best that it has in, in months, it really, really
does. We've been praying Taylor and I
have felt it placed in our hearts by the Holy Spirit to
pray and meditate. Every single day on saw, more on
Psalm 147 verse 3, which is he, he he binds up, he heals the
Brokenhearted and binds up their wounds, that's nine words in
the, in the English Standard translation.
And then if you add and and that was and I got to give, I got to
give a big thank you to your wife.
For when she was on our show several months ago, she was
talking quite extensively about how the book of Psalms got her
through her prep. Yeah.
And so, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna follow, crystals
example, and I'm going to just die, I'm just going to dive into
Psalms. So that's kind of where we
discovered that passage. And, and we, and we just, and we
just owned it, Psalm 147 3. Like, you know what?
We're going to get through this. Our dog's eye on my four-legged
training partner has not missed a With me in 24 weeks and she
was backstage with me as a service dog, the entire the
entire competition. So whenever I kind of get
nervous, I just pet her and talk talk through what I'm feeling
with her and then I feel better, and then I jump back on stage,
but this is something that we've been praying and meditating on
every every single day through the prep for this healing
process to, to Really Happen. Now, nine words in the, in the
English Standard. Translation.
If you add the words, Psalm 147 three.
That's three more. And we're invest 12 reps as
bodybuilders. That's the hypertrophy range,
that's like the money is on for, like, almost any body part
except legs, right? So, so for 12 reps, instead of
counting to 12, and we teach and we that we teach our clients
that happen to Sheriff's the same Faith as us.
This to We Don't Force our faith on anybody that doesn't doesn't
share. But if somebody does happen to
share the same faith, that Something that we like to teach.
And something that we like to do personally is instead of
counting reps. Anybody can count 12, you get
sick of doing that real quick. So today I was doing shoulder
presses right before coming in here, right?
So instead of counting 12, 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 I'm like He
heals the Brokenhearted and binds up their wounds Psalm 147
3. So I know that's 12 reps and
then I feel better at the end of the set and makes the set more
patmore powering and more encouraging.
So that I'm encouraged and I'm Feeling Good by the end of my
workout and that that has that is actually been a huge part of
how I got to this prep, man. I love it man.
If I like when you're in the present it's getting pretty much
healed now. That's good.
It's a You get you getting a
print menu. Get like last the last like four
weeks, man. There's actually, I think
they'll last five from six weeks out to like two weeks out like
that window right. There is like shit hits the fan.
Like, that's the spot that's when your mind has to go to a
certain place for some people. It's a good place for some
people. It's not a good place.
Yep. But like that window, right
there, from six weeks out, and up to, about two weeks out, if
you're doing it, if you're doing it, the way that I see, See
that? You train all of your clients,
all of your clients are stage, ready from what I can see
because I follow all your clients and sure that surprises
you but your your your clients are always stage dreaded.
At least three or four weeks out.
Yeah. And to go yeah.
That was the goal for me. And by God, we accomplish it.
I was bone shredded about three weeks out, but that three to
five weeks where we were really grinding.
Right before the right before that Reef, right before kind of
just starting the introduce atrophied face.
That's when everywhere, I went people look at you and they're
like, what's wrong with you? Are you okay?
Are you okay because it doesn't
matter if your key to our you got carbs in your diet or
whatever like you suffer during that time to get shredded, your
body does not want to get sure for sure.
But I feel like there's so much growth that happens there but
like you yeah you start to like meditate you start to.
I mean if you're if you're a religious spiritual person, you
leave. Into that if you're not, you
don't have to, you can lean into whatever, whatever, whatever
floats your boat. But like you start leaning into
things outside your Norm because like you, you're just grasping
for straws to find ways to keep going and in doing that, I don't
know. Like, you just discover another
level within yourself that most people never have the
opportunity to experience. Like somebody's asked me just
the other day, like, Monday. I think this week, why would
anybody want to subject himself to prep?
It's Necessary, like, your strength suffers your ability to
build muscle suffers like your health and hormones, likely
suffer like, what in the world is the point and my answer was
to be able to willingly experience that chapter because
I don't really know any many other ways in which you can
subject that upon yourself and really dig deep like that.
Like like a prep offers, right? Our body is our three parts.
Even even even Flatout 100% atheist agree that there's
something in our bodies beyond what we can see physically,
right? There's, there's a soul.
We have feelings. We have emotions.
And regardless of your faith, we can, we can all intellectually
agree. There's something deeper
emotionally than what you are than what you can see, and what
you can, What you can prove by science.
Right. So when you get to that point in
your prep, I feel like it's I feel like it's easier to tap
into it and I feel like there's a lot of growth that happens
there because you're pushing yourself almost in a Way Beyond
what your body was meant to do physically.
Yeah, I freaking love it, man. Like you have to eat.
You kind of have to hate getting there because you know, you
can't just, you can't just like being, you're comfortable, you
know, lackadaisical, you know, State and then flip a switch and
get there. Like you have to suffer to get
there, you have to suffer get there.
It's like oh yeah this was worth worth it all because what I'm
what I'm discovering about myself now is worth and it's
just worth it, you know. I love it.
I mean that's why I like I don't do a prep every year because
it's not healthy in that, you know since.
But to be able to do that every two or three years or so is just
such an insightful moment. I always come out of that being
like reborn again so to speak. Yeah yeah.
You got to you got to page in your book it's probably bookmark
but it's the one where You you basically summarized super
setting your life, like if I can some if I could summarize that
page in one sentence it would be it would be it would be super
sight of Life. I'll find it one second.
Yeah, yeah, just like a like a prep ma'am, I don't know.
Like you don't have to be like a elite level bodybuilder, like
people honestly, the first prep is probably the hardest prep for
most people because they don't have any perspective.
So they do that first prep. Without any perspective, they
don't know what. What's coming, and then they,
that fear of the unknown allows their mind to go to very dark
places and that becomes hard eventually, I would like to be
able to go through an entire prep and those around me.
And I'm sure Taylor can say ditto on this but I'm sure I
would want to get to place where I can go through an entire
forever look better than ever. But then all those around me
would not even be able to know that I'm in a prep.
You know, how cool would that be?
That would be that. Be awesome.
That would be nice. Yeah, it would be fun to do a
competition prep and somehow just be a normal human being
like any other athlete. You know, if your you just like
someone, that's in the, let's take an NHL athlete for an
example and in the middle of the Stanley Cup Finals series,
right? There.
They can eat pizza after that after the game.
They can they can unwind and watch TV after the game.
They can they can kind of check out bodybuilding.com.
It is every second of every day, it consumes you, but it makes
you into a discipline structured person.
Just such a different person than you were going into that
prep in a very good way. Does it take a toll on your
family? Yeah.
Does it take a toll on your, on your marriage in some ways?
But as it. But does it strengthen your
family? Does it?
Give does it? Give your family healthy.
Eating habits coming out of it. Does it?
Give your family more discipline, more control of
their attitudes? Everybody knows in this house
that everybody's attitudes have to be in check, you know, it
doesn't mean you can't express your emotions.
We should all have the freedom to be able to do that but
whining and complaining and stuff that like you get very,
very sensitive to your cortisol levels.
If your cortisol is too high, If my cortisol is too high, what
does that do? That means that I can't train
that means that I can train, but the training won't work.
I can I can train but I'm not going to build muscle and I'm
not going to lose fat. If my cortisol levels are where
they're supposed to be, I can train.
And I can lose fat. If I have a house that's full of
a screaming wife and full of screaming, full of screaming,
kids that can't work. And I work from home, I work, I
work from home, full-time, as a full-time online Couch, right?
So We have a problem there so that that has required me to do
actually 99.9% of all my training has been at home.
Hasn't been a commercial gyms, it's been out of our private
facility that we have here and It's required me, being at home
and being being involved as a dad, more to help regulate all
that. And if some and if and if and if
somebody's acting out of line, there's no tolerance for it, has
to stop. And so it Coming.
So coming out of a competition prep.
I believe we've done this enough times as a family were to where
they kind of they kind of know why we do it and what and why,
why this is important but the the, the intensity of the Of the
few weeks before the competition and the few weeks after the
competition, and how busy we are, it's worth it because of
who you become for the process and what and what and what it
does and unifying your family around a common goal.
Yeah, totally agree. I feel like everybody just has
to have an understanding and it has to just be open
communication there. You have to put systems in place
to sit, not only you, but all those close to you up for
Success. So, like here just being very
clear as to Why you have to sacrifice certain things for
that moment in time and everybody being on board with
that, not pressure. You but then also, I'm really
being protective of like when you wake up when you go to
sleep, when you relax, when you take some time to just simply be
at peace. And, and breathe.
I mean, like this, this next prep that I do.
I'm gonna do a prep next year and like I'm gonna have a few.
So sorry to cut you off. Are you going to compete or is
it going to be another? This prep.
Oh no, I'm competing. I'm happy because you only
reason I did that before was be was because of it was because
of, you know what, because I'm not going to say it.
Because I don't want this to be on the air, but there was a
something that happened worldwide that made it, so that
nobody could compete in bodybuilding competitions.
So yeah, yeah, that's the only reason you did a mock crap.
Yeah. So I had every intention to
competing in 2020, and then a week before, you know, the
pandemic go with canceled everything.
So yeah, that that did not go as planned, but I did a photo
shoot. Photo shoot was great but that
was not the the week that I was, you know, peaking for so, like
the photoshoot looked great, but it didn't.
I didn't get his dialed in as, like, would have gotten had the
show's gone on, but you did look better than you ever have before
though. Right?
From what I saw, when I compared your last show to that I was
like he looks better. Not even competing.
And just and just finishing out this prep.
Yeah, he did his last show. Am I wrong?
No, you're right. I definitely did look better,
but I did not take My Bonnie to the degree that I wanted to take
it to in 2020, like I had a lot more to go.
So I'll go that foreign 2023 when I compete and it's going to
be good man because it's been I mean since since the everything
I canceled 2020 haven't competed since 2017 when are my Pro card.
So I'm definitely a chance to get back on stage and I feel
like, I've bet you are in the work, you know, I'm going to
look the part for sure, but I'm gonna have a few non-negotiables
before that prep, Evan. Our psyche.
I'm going to have everything that I need to have at my own
facility. That is that's going to include
tan and banned. All the equipment.
I'm gonna get a StairMaster I'm going to have more weight
training equipment. I'm going to get a sauna that
way I can have that from like a meditation piece but yeah, I'm
gonna have everything in my own little Oasis so that nothing can
penetrate that just bubble of you know my zone.
Yeah. Yeah not.
That's that's that's a freaking awesome idea man because I mean
especially you being a new dad, you're gonna be your son's going
to be a toddler at that point. It's like you're not going to
want to leave the house and go and go to a commercial gym and
everything you got 99 percent of everything you need and you can
get creative to like my like Mike.
My son is I'm a huge advocate of the sun.
I feel better after it. I did it burns calories.
I believe that it does even though science that they haven't
really proven it, but I get you're burning calories.
If you're on the sauna for shirt like you're covered in sweat and
you're breathing hard, you know, What kind of job you have?
My sauna is my wife's car, so, and it only works in the summer,
that's it. That's another kind of Quirk
about it. I have to give it to manufacture
on that, but it's just, my wife's car.
She's not here. And I would most, my workouts
are always in the morning and I finished my workout on most
days. I'm talking.
Cardio. Everything I'm at home, I'm not
in a rush. So my workouts could be five,
six hours long and and it might just be German volume training.
If I'm like, trying to just be a dad for the entire day, right?
So, it might just do the entire workout might be 30 sets of dips
and 10 sets of bicep curls, right?
And that, and then tack on like, 30 minutes of cardio before
that, and an hour of cardio after that, and then It's the
first half of the day but then around like 1:00 or noon.
It's what like it was 100 degrees outside for a while and
it was right at that point where I was really getting peeled or
shred that I've ever been in my life.
And that's the perfect time for the Sonic because the cars just
radiating heat. So I finished my post workout
cardio covered in sweat anyway and I go just kick my feet up in
my wife's car and like man, I get it.
I get so hot and so sweaty in there.
I could barely move by the time I get out, that's it.
So, what is the temperature? Actually, in the car?
No idea. I've never, I've never checked
it, it's made my phone overheat before.
Yeah, I am it got a pretty hard thing because I mean mine like
when I'm in a son and like an actual sauna and I've got my
phone on me, definitely overheats.
I wonder I mean if it's doing in the car it's got to be.
I don't know what that that temperature point is, but it's
gonna be pretty toasty. You know, who Mark is Tiger
Fitness? Yeah, he when he's in the sauna
has a nice. Behind his phone and he does
YouTube lives in there. Nice.
It's pretty smart. Yeah.
I'm definitely going to sign it
before this next prep though, for sure, I feel like if I have
that to like train and then go sit in the Sun and then just
simply breathe and meditate, listen to an audiobook, listen
to a podcast, listen to, you know, Native American flute,
music, whatever it is, I'm listening to.
But then just simply zone out for 20-30 minutes.
And then, resume my day, if I've got like two hours where I'm
just training doing cardio and then and then whatever else,
This comes, it can come but if I've got those two hours and I'm
solid. Yeah.
Yeah, it's gonna be good. Are you gonna you got the show
coming up and you got you got two shows left this season,
right? Yeah I got two shows left this
season. The next one's going to be in a
week and a half. That's going to be in Omaha
Nebraska and I would never ever. There's no there's no reason for
me to do that show for my coaching and for my content and
the business reasons why I compete in the first place.
Other than this is going to be this lady's first competition
and she looks absolutely spectacular and so Taylor and I
both looked at my wife and I both looked at each other and I
was like, If I want her to do the absolute best that she can,
I'm gonna take part of her coaching expenses, that, that
she, that she paid us. And we're going to pay out of
our own pocket for the rest of everything else that we need for
me to go there and trainer and and, and hold her hand through
the show. Now, I just did a show two and a
half weeks ago, and I got another show a couple weeks
after that here locally. So if the, it makes no sense for
me to not compete, as long as I'm there, especially You add in
the fact that it's basically just as expensive to go
backstage as a coach at these. It doesn't matter if it's NPC or
Insanity and be after I pee or whatever.
Yeah. I mean, coaches have to pay a
lot of fees to to to be there. So Mike, you know what?
I'm going to do less categories. I'm not going to go all out and
do every single category. Like I normally do all do one or
two categories, but my attention to my focus is on, is on her.
Now, if I'm stepping on stage, Use my language.
I try to not say this word on the other, but I'm like, I'm,
I'm going to fucking win man. Like it's yeah, it's it is
another show. So that's the next one.
And then we got Jarrett Carly and maybe Lawrence, we're not
sure, we're not sure about him and a couple other people that
are, that are dialed in for one here in the Seattle area that's
going to be on November 11th and 12th night.
Nice. So with you training, like I
exclusively work with people who are doing Judging that people
have come to me and they've wanted to do other, you know,
mixed diets and I don't do it. Like I try to make my ultra
Niche specialty, ketogenic nutrition with you.
Having a mixed bag of clientele, some doing keto, some doing
carnivores I'm doing a bunch of carbs, more traditional route,
what are some things that you're noticing?
Like in comparing you different clients like, Dee Dee you find
that, you know, they noticed like a trend a certain way, as
far as sustainability goes like what are some common out?
These and what are some total stark contrast that you're
seeing in? Why people would want to go one
way or the other? I would say off the top of my
head, the first thing that my first response to that would be
that our clients that are on high carb diets II.
Encourage everyone to give keto or carnivore a try and if
they're not a fan of the idea I don't push it.
My great. You want you want us to be our
coaches, but you don't want us to do the kid gennaker a
carnivore approach. That's fine.
You're probably going to be hungrier doing this prep and
you'll probably feel a lot better on the ketogenic prep.
I've done eight natural bodybuilding shows with carbs in
my diet as my primary fuel source.
This is the first show that I've ever done on the ketogenic diet.
And I'm telling you, there's a night and day difference between
how you feel your health. Now, how big you can get filling
out on. carbs versus filling out on fats and put in fat and
protein, I guess that's debatable but I certainly from
my personal experience have not noticed losing any muscle mass
or fullness from from the way that I do it or the way that you
do it without cards because at the end of the day it's glycogen
and How it becomes glycogen is more a matter of method, but
but, but I do tell him my opinion is like, you're going to
suffer. You're going to suffer either
way. Yeah, if you're going to
compete, you're not doing this. Because you want, you want to
feel good and you're bored and want to try something like
you're doing this because you're either weird, like I am or you
got like something and something in your heart or something.
You want to prove ourselves or it's just something you've
always wanted to do your life, it doing.
Your life and you really really want to do it.
Okay, so we can all agree that we're going to suffer.
I my experience is that you're going to suffer less if you
eliminate carbs altogether because your body doesn't need
carbs, your body needs to macronutrients in.
That's it. It needs protein and it needs
fat. And if you don't have those,
you're going to die when you get into a competition prep and you
get down to two or three percent body fat and you can see your
glute striations. And you can see stuff that
you're not even supposed to be able to see and that no one
wants to see him. Sarah judge.
Then your your body is your body is at a point to where It's
being, it's being pushed, extremely hard and and it's
almost you could almost borderline.
I hate this word. You could almost borderline,
call it starvation mode, your body.
Kind of does go into starvation mode which is why your
testosterone can dip if you're a male and what, or a female and
you can have and you can experience some hormonal issues.
But if you're going into starvation mode, then why it
just makes no sense to me. Why carbs would be such a
Priority. I get it because it fills you
out. Yeah, it's important for energy.
Okay. But can you get energy from
protein? Yeah.
Can you get energy from fat? Yeah, so my theory is drop the
carbs and focus on the only two macro nutrients that your body
needs. And I think that it helps to
minimize the body's response to being in a starvation mode in
the first place because you, because you are still getting
what your body needs. Your body doesn't need carbs.
Yeah, hundred percent agree, man.
I mean, I feel like, you know, for me I've done and then
perhaps, Same with cars, have done, perhaps with Quito, and
they are absolutely hard either way.
So for anybody that says that there's, they've got a down
that's gonna make a prep breathes.
I mean, they're lying, but there's definitely a difference
in How I Feel throughout the primp, by overall level of
satiety, I'm still hungry for sure, but there's a difference
between being like uncomfortably hungry and just like miserably
hungry, you know, have you noticed this?
Have you Have you noticed that hunger comes and goes on the
ketogenic diet if you're really fat adapted, if you're in
ketosis, like you'll get hungry, but you distract yourself and
then 15 minutes later, you're not hungry.
If I have carbs in my diet, I can't do that.
Yeah, yeah. And it's weird thing.
It was with, like, the volume at the high-volume foods, like when
I was eating a bunch of high fiber foods even when I didn't
have volume Foods, when I first started doing keto, not so much
now, like this last prep I was just super strict on nutrient
density and not so much volume. But in the past, when I would
focus on the volume I would have a lot of volume, my stomach, I
got to have, you know, my midsection will be distended, I
would have a lot of bulk in there, but that does not equate
to satiety like you can have a massive bowl of mixed greens but
you'd s not necessarily are going to feel full after that.
Like you may feel physically full.
But there's no, that does not mean you are truly satiated and
like I cracked a hundred, a hundred feel that by having much
less volume but more Intensity. I feel like there's definitely
not a lot of bulk in there and I have to empty in that regard,
but I feel much more satisfied overall.
The first eight shows that I did, were all very, very high
fiber. Like insanely high fiber.
Towards the end and Taylor will, if she be, she stepped out.
Was if she was here, she would be rolling her eyes right now,
going. Like she would probably
interrupt me and go. Oh, no.
It was every single week meal prep was an insane amount of
Brussels sprouts, and broccoli, and cauliflower, and just the
lowest calorie vegetables that we can.
And like, that was basically my carb sources.
Like I was just trying to survive and not overeat.
Mmm, now, coming into this prep, I was like, hey, this is show
number 9. What did I learn from the first
eight being bloated? All the time?
I don't think was a good idea, certainly wasn't convenient.
I mean like that's time that I could have picked, I could that
I should have been sleeping or working out or doing something
like that. That's Pro.
That's one of the biggest if not Not the biggest benefit of the
ketogenic diet or the carnivore diet.
Is that you don't you don't have as many frickin macros to keep
track of you. Don't even have to worry about
carbs or vegetables or Fiber I mean there's so much less to
track. It's simpler it's easier on your
family it's just easier on you as a human being.
It's so much simpler and so coming into this prep I was like
We need a different strategy, we're not going to do that
again. That was a nightmare.
Let's focus on a meat-based diet with nutrition, and it'll take
me as long. I call this Tes time eating
steak. Okay?
So if you're doing nothing but steak every day, which is
technically possible. You can do that.
I've done it before. It's very enjoyable actually,
and if you're eating nothing, but steak every day and you eat
steak, like, properly and enjoy every single bite and you have
two or three different really Salts that you're putting on it
and having some fun with it. Then I mean it should take you a
while to eat that steak you know.
It's and that's the compare that to someone who shoves down a
salad, okay. Suppose they're this, they're
the same amount of calories and this and the same macro ratios.
If you like make your salad to have the same macros as a steak,
obviously, is going to be a little bit of Trace carbs.
But If but, but for me, personally, wolfing down a
salad. I'm going to be starving after
that. I'm going to, I'm going to feel
sick and Bloated, and it'll in the end, it'll take me 10 15, 30
minutes to eat a big salad. That's an amount of calories and
stake, a probably take me twice. As long, Tes time, eating steak.
I'm enjoying it for longer. It's what my body actually
needs, and I feel better and I go to sleep better, and that's
why I wake up, not bloated. Yeah, doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter how much protein is.
My body wants all of it and uses all of it.
Then I'll go somewhere. No, need to make sense, man.
It becomes muscle tissue or glycogen.
I am guilty of eating very fast when I'm hungry.
So, like, how I would eat a meal in my prep and I may be gone in
like two minutes, man. Like you there's not sticking
around for a long. So, I am trying to eat much
lower because that's going to help from a digestion and
absorption standpoint, lots of benefits that come with being
slow. I'm just guilty of not following
any of the recommendations there.
Yep. But not a lot.
And you know what? Dude your book is what is what
sent me over the edge to, and just for the record and, you
know, anybody that cares that that's super set, your life, the
page was page, one of the chapter that's titled prep for
prep. So page, 37 and 38 is where you
go into like, what bodybuilding does for you as a person, what
you and who you become through the process.
Nice. But I think it's like a couple
check chapters of afterwards where you say that?
You where were you? Staying at prioritizing, you're
prioritizing nutrients and not volume of food.
But nutritional value is, what is where is how you should
measure your satiety? Yeah, 100%.
My mean, one thing I was really proud of with this last prep I
did is every single meal that I consumed I was incorporating.
Some of the venison that I had killed, you know, during hunting
season, the year prior had Wild game in there.
I had an organ meat with some of it, like I wasn't a stickler
about origami but I did have some organ meat, you know,
intermittently throughout the prep.
I had a brick every single day at a keto brick.
One, full brick every single day and then pretty sure and eggs
every single day. But yeah, just super nutrient
dense. Stuff, not really any excess
volume at all. And I felt great, you know, felt
like a million bucks. Sounds like you felt great and I
mean, you've got a bunch of clients.
I've got a bunch of clients, a lot of people have gone through,
perhaps, doing a Very similar protocol to this and they're
seen great success with it. So I don't know I'm doubtful
that this style of prepping is ever going to, you know, exceed
or surpass the momentum that like the flexible dieting
Community has. But I'm feel very confident that
so many people that have come from that background have not
done well with it. Have found you know, success
doing a ketogenic approach and are able to mitigate their
disorder eating Tendencies improve their hormonal health
and the They become much more sustainable for them, like
that's that's my goal with all of this man.
That's my mission has been from day one like simply offering a
potentially better alternative for people that this would
resonate more with than what they've done in the past because
I truly do believe. It's much much healthier, 100% I
love it, man. Will you have two more shows?
Coming up? I'm stoked to see you on stage,
so I'm glad that your foot is healing up.
I'm glad that life is going well and you just killing it.
On all fronts and super setting your life.
You're like, you're like Drop setting super setting throwing
in some negative, four straps and everything, and all the
above. But where do people go to find
out more about you, man? How do they, how do they get
into your world? But before I answer that
question, I have to tell you something, extremely
embarrassing and I'm really, really sorry and I'm asking Your
forgiveness but I'm a cop. I'm on the topic of being in
between shows. I'm consuming an insane amount
of water every day and I've held it for as long as I can.
We'll probably want to edit that out.
But is it is it okay if I'm back in 30 seconds to wrap up?
Yeah, for sure. Thanks.
I'll be right back, but we are recording again.
I'm not even gonna hit that out, man.
I'm just going to leave it in there and people can know that
had to pee. Yeah, it's a funny.
It's a funny story because, but are we recording, right?
Uh, yeah. We're live.
Okay. We have we have fun entertaining
stories as bodybuilders where it's like oh like only
bodybuilders I have to have to deal with this kind of stuff and
and and do this but I know you're not a fan of cutting
water to that's kind of the other thing that I like to do is
not cut it but I do drink an insane amount of water on Peak
Week specifically on Friday and then drink it.
To it--i've lead on Saturday depending on how a dry it looks.
So I drink a lot less water on Saturday.
Use it to find pup heading in the I mean like mint.
I dunno, I don't drink like I'll drink my normal water intake and
they all not try to, you know, remove water intake on Saturday.
But I try to, you know, minimize it and taking small amounts that
I'm able to kind of adjust the, my body's looking real time and
then not feel like I've got to run to the bathroom right before
I step, On stage, you know, right, but yeah.
No. We so my coach had me drinking
four gallons of water than I the night before the show, which
I've, which I pretty much still do in this was this is the last
one that we did w NB F in Edmonton, my coach and I
competed together. This was the one of the Year
prior shows. Yeah.
This is, this is, this is before
Quito and we both had to pee and have gotten back to our hotel
after tanning. And I had to go, he had to go.
And there were no ifs, ands or buts.
Like we wouldn't have made it up the stairs.
And so we just pulled over in a back alley and there are people
driving by more. Like, I don't even care if
people see this, then if they've, if they've seen, if
they've seen it before, it's nothing new.
If they haven't seen it before, they won't know what it is,
right? Hey, when you gotta go, you
gotta go, man, I know the and we, bro, we've had to do, like,
pull out water bottles in the middle, in the middle of the
drives, we had to do that at this, at this last one, after
after this time, this last show, I didn't make it.
I didn't make it back, had the think.
I think I filled up three water bottles in the car because it
was Seattle traffic and there was no pulling over there was
nothing. So weird like don't drive by any
semis. This is an emergency but we got
it. We got it taken care of when you
when you're trying to figure out what your sweet spot is was like
hydration levels, sodium, potassium, magnesium, all this
stuff, man. Yeah like I think things are
just a little out of normal, you know, a Lackey.
I figure out where that sweet spot lies.
So I yeah. I get it.
No need to explain yourself there but yeah man or people go
to find out more about you dive into your world wants the prep
Endeavors and just see what you got going on man.
Let's see our podcast is the super set your life.com podcast
so just like bodybuilding.com our business name is also our
website. So again that is the superset.
Your life.com all one word the super set your life.com podcast.
Our YouTube channel is where we're focusing the most on right
now and getting the most traction.
And that is Skull Bells TV. I'm going to spell it out, SK U
LL. B, e LL Z TV skull, Bells TV.
We make skull-shaped dumbbells, we make skull-shaped curl bars.
They are all out of stock right now because being on, We had to
look at. Okay.
What then our lives is giving us the least profit margins right
now and making handcrafted workout equipment is not the
most lucrative in the in the, in the world of bodybuilding.
So that kind of had to take a backseat until after the, after
these preps. And I can stay up longer at
night and making those. But yeah, skull Bells, TV, SK U,
LL, b, e LL Z TV. Well, Valley Mannie, the Rope
the Rope attachment, man, like, you sent me one of those, and I
pretty much use that thing every day.
Yeah, thanks, man. And your boy, that that, that
tricep exercise, that you came up with how to use that cable
attachment with the split, the scope with the skulls on it.
That's one that I'm like, man, why the hell didn't?
I think of that. So I recorded the training
video. Now we're teaching that with all
of our clients and I'm like yep, Robert Sykes invited that one.
My Robert Sykes vetted that move always always like, that's fun
thing about money, but man he created I once you know how the
body works. Then you can like just look at
different piece of equipment. Look at different machines, get
creative on how to use them and then Target things in ways that
most people probably wouldn't think as the traditional way of
doing something. Exactly.
Yeah, you get creative. You're like I could I could use
my, I could use my kids for freaking French presses.
I mean they that Giggles makes them laugh, don't do it too
much, they'll probably throw up. But like but you know, you know,
you know what around the worlds are where, you know, yeah, where
you great. Yeah, it's a show.
Mobility, exercise. So like grabbed my dogs chew toy
and have her run around in circles in the ground.
And I'm in my knee, I'm on my knees and so playing tug-of-war
with her, but I'm also getting all my Mobility work done at the
same time and stuff like that, you know?
Nice. Yeah, I love it.
I am, I love it. I know that that little more to
get big enough start working out with me.
And then they, and then the just finish answering your question.
Instagram is kind of our business card and my wife and I
both run it. Together, so she sees everything
that I see on it, especially because most of our clients are
females. So and then if there's something
somebody has a question or something that like I'm
training, somebody doesn't have the opportunity to get back to
you, then she can see it and grab it.
But that is at Colt Milton Co LTD a mi t-- o--, n-- awesome.
And I was certainly linking out to all those.
Make it easy for people to find. Thank you.
And your lovely wife. And yeah, man, just keep in
touch, man. I'm always excited to see how
what you got cooking, how the show preps are.
And what you're experimenting with, I love seeing you making
the gym equipment in the garage. I mean, just like, all that
stuff. So I'm keep doing what you're
doing. Keep fighting the good fight,
man. There's everything I can do hit
me up man. You know how to get ahold of me?
You're already got. The book map is.
It's like I can just I can just go back and there it is.
And and I mean I'm not even one of your clients and whenever
I've sent an email or something, I mean, you're always, you've
always been generous enough to send it back and you've just
given out so much. Free content over the years.
It's like, how can I ever repay this to you, bro?
So thanks for no, dude. I mean, thanks for thanks for
not only the content and the teaching that you put out, but I
don't think you realize the model of what Taylor and I are
trying to accomplish in life and how everything everything that
we believed were called to do to.
Do I look at you and Crystal having grown up, even in the
state of Washington, I pour from the same area.
And and, and what you guys have done with your lives, from
inventing, a product to creating a brand.
I'm like, man, that's that's that's us.
So thanks for just everything that you've done, man.
Yeah that means the world man truly that's my gratitude.
I'm excited. I mean that he's with you but
I'm not, I'm not really joking. I mean, we're going to share
stage someday man, so get ready for that?
No, we're not man. I'm sick of losing even get
mine. You can be run for that money,
for sure. Occult man, always a pleasure,
brother. You keep doing what you're
doing. Keep in touch for sure and we'll
talk to you soon, man. All right, love you man.
Thanks again. See you bud.