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What's going on is James 
Roberts. 

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Like sceeto's, have is.com 
today. 

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I've got special guest Colton 
Milton back on the podcast. 

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For round two. 
We do fall into his recent 

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competition prep Endeavors, he 
just got done doing a 

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competition few weeks back. 
He's doing another to this 

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competitive season, so we dive 
all into the trials and 

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tribulations of this competition
prep form. 

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What he's done with his 
nutrition. 

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He's been following a lot of my 
protocol for my book. 

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I mix it up a little bit with 
regard to his peak week, so I 

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kind of wanted to pick his brain
on that. 

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He is not one of my clients but 
he's been like, said it going 

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through Through my protocol. 
So I honestly just want to 

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figure out how that worked for 
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What he liked, we didn't like 
etcetera, Etc, but he's 

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absolutely killing it, 
thoroughly enjoyed the 

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conversation. 
Always enjoy catching up with 

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Colt. 
I've got no doubt that you will 

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take something from this. 
So that for their do is sit 

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back, relax and do a podcast 
with Colt Milton and we alive 

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cult Milton. 
How are you again man? 

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I'm doing wonderful. 
How you doing sir? 

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I am doing wonderful as well. 
So the last time I had you on a 

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podcast when was that how many 
months ago was that it was it 

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was it more than it was a year 
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Wasn't last time I was on your 
show was in I think it was about

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a year ago actually. 
Yeah a lots happened since then 

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you just got done doing a pretty
well, carnivore prep, right? 

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Yeah. 
I followed your book as gospel 

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for the most part so started 
with Phase one, which is the 

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Baseline and then moved into 
phase two, which is the protein 

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threshold, phase 3, macros phase
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And I really didn't do anything 
different than what is then, 

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what is in your book. 
Everything was the tea until 

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peak week and about two or three
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And the reason that I felt 
confident enough to Do macros 

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that I felt what to use macros. 
That would work better with my 

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body was because at that point, 
the couple clients that we were 

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training for this show either 
decided on doing a show a couple

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months later or just didn't want
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it this show anymore. 
Just got burnt out. 

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Yeah you know how it goes that. 
You don't want to step on stage 

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and less everything's. 
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it does take a toll on your 
family, I'm not going to lie. 

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My wife, my kids and my dog have
all been extremely supportive 

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and extremely patient and it has
worn on our relationships. 

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But that's when it comes down to
Super setting your life. 

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You know, this is a temporary 
thing. 

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It's not sustainable to do this,
as you know, all the time. 

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It's not sustainable to be stage
shredded into be competing all 

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the time and it's a lot of focus
on you, which, for me at this 

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point, Trying to focus on God 
and trying to focus on family. 

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Having this much attention is it
can get to your head and it's a 

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real test to your pride in your 
character. 

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What you do with that and how 
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exposure. 
Yeah, that being said, if I 

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never ever pushed somebody to do
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to do it. 
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reason as to why that would be a
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that being said, Said, yeah, 
that being said the next next to

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shows, you know, we got Melanie 
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got a couple other people that 
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that are right on track there 
but this one ended up just being

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just being me. 
So I didn't feel the. 

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So I so I felt confident enough 
to gamble a little bit and try 

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what, I know has worked for me 
in the past when I did a mock 

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competition prep, similar to 
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So that so Phase 5, which I 
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I was peak week, I started using
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really, I guess, very 
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You can say with the protein as 
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And as far as phases six and 
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there's no phases in your book 
for what to do if you have a 

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show in a couple weeks. 
So I'm just kind of repeating 

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phases, four and five until 
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And then we're going to go two 
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little higher protein, but other
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like you're coaching me and 
holding my hand the entire way 

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man, and I just can't thank you 
enough for everything. 

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Let's crazy man. 
It's awesome. 

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Because I mean like you're not 
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read the book and you I mean you
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book than I've ever seen. 
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notes and then there are pages. 
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hear. 
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been like in using the book. 
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was to make something that you 
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and use as opposing to have to 
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In crazy like that. 
So hopefully it's been a good 

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resource for you. 
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talking about that because I 
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like a screenshot of, you know 
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for peak week and your proteins,
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And if I consume that much 
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prep, I feel a lot more bloat, 
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experiencing that because you 
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protein for that, you know, 
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That's that's yeah, that's on a 
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I would say that right now. 
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envelope. 
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Now at least 400 grams is what 
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show because the last one was 
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afternoon. 
This next show that I'm doing in

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a week and a half is going to be
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require that I am full all day 
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that's going to probably require
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snack and eat meals throughout 
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going to be on me there. 
My focus is going to be on my 

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client Melanie. 
She's stepping on stage for the 

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first time and looks absolutely 
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on the ketogenic diet, just for 
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When she reached out to us, she 
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I want you and Taylor to coach 
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I was like, no. 
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trained have been the old school
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And so she was like, okay, But 
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whenever I've whenever I've 
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protein, right before I go to 
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converted to glucose to glycogen
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gluconeogenesis. 
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you out of ketosis, I don't know
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ketosis but I enjoy it. 
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I mean, this takes two hours at 
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four pounds of steak that that 
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protein. 
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because I'm making sure that it 
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And I know, I know you're not a 
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having a just one drink, either 
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It's usually date night too, so 
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Taylor wants to drink. 
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And so, will make Manhattan's or
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Free Man. 
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Manhattan's will make make will 
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glass of whiskey or something 
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digestion quite a bit as well as
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having all my water, I drank 
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protein, right before bed, 
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right before bed. 
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stomach, but I wouldn't describe
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Like, if I wanted to go for a 
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If I wanted to make love to my 
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could, I could I could do it if 
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ketogenic diet, which has a lot 
of benefits compared to cutting 

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out your fat, your saturated 
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you because you're doing pretty.
Penny Stakes to like when you're

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doing that, like, you're not 
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anything when you're having that
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pretty fatty Cuts, right? 
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tracking calories and if it 
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course, but if I was concerned 
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high, I would definitely make 
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leaner because even the leanest,
steak that you can find has 

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enough dietary fat, in it to be 
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being Ketogenic prep and having 
become so fat adapted because of

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how you lay everything out and 
how you teach everything. 

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I feel like my body has become 
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with that fat. 
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No, I totally agree. 
I feel like, you know, everybody

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else, Max, they just sucking 
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into like carb-loading glycogen 
load, you know, trying to Super 

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compensate glycogen stores at 
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know, the night before and that 
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a bunch of gastric distress. 
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stick to proteins and fats that,
you know, you can assimilate, 

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well, you really minimize the 
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than you did, you know, they're 
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Yeah, not having me not having 
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day difference. 
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I was consuming. 
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adds flavor and it just it just 
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But when I cut those out, dude, 
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difference. 
I woke up feeling better in the 

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morning. 
I just, I was able to enjoy the 

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meats, more iced. 
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lately. 
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meeting is just meats and salts.
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How much more you crave salt 
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Like when I'm doing a prep. 

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prep by the last month and a 
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like 10x that have what it was 
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sodium specifically, our 
electrolytes in general numb and

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sodium specifically. 
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I'll have a lot of salt like on 
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building phase. 
I'm probably consuming between 

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four and six thousand milligrams
of salt with That fail. 

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But man I was probably there 
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craving you know, 10 grams of 
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No problem. 
You know, with our 10 grams of 

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sodium a day you know, no 
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I mean I would have like 
anchovies I would just be salt 

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in the hell out of everything. 
I just really crave the salt. 

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Yeah, but I think I think as 
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getting it all, dialed in you 
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sorry. 
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that? 
You're consuming right now? 

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Again, ordered, like, in a 
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normally between about 44 grams 
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probably, averaged into the 
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I'll have some nights that are 
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like a Fathead, pizza or 
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I'll have higher sodium because 
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towards the end of a prep I'm 
doing you know, eight sometimes 

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10 grams Okay, I have to 
confess, I have not been able to

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track my electrolytes as 
meticulously as you do. 

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However for what for a while I 
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the prep man like it was just a 
miracle that I did the show and 

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finished it let alone was able 
to completely annihilate, my 

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physique that I had 33 years ago
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And I stand. 
I still really believe that I 

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placed as well as well as I 
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I took that see anybody that 
beat me just flat-out had more 

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muscle mass even though I was 
able to have to develop more 

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muscle to build more muscle mass
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this one. 
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compliment that I got was being 
the most conditioned athlete at 

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the competition. 
Yeah, which is something that 

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I'm happy about and I was never 
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ketogenic diet. 
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You know, it's like, okay if 
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least within the ballpark, then 
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certainly take a backseat to 
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stage, then if you screw up here
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it's not the end of the World, 
you're pretty clear about that 

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in your book too, but the 
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potassium and 1683 milligrams of
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than even what you do, but but I
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high of a sort of a, if you see,
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quite so high. 
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equilibrium point at a higher or
lower level as long as Is in the

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right ratio, you know, like if 
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higher, you can certainly do it 
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from lack of blood pressure and 
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from, you know, vascularity 
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contractions while training 
better recovery, etc, etc. 

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man, like the stars never 
aligned for a prep as anybody's 

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gonna prep, I know knows, but 
when did you start officially 

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prepping and what were some of 
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brim? 
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most challenging obstacle was 
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an eating disorder. 
Yeah. 

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carb. 
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and not 100% straight. 
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would land a new client summer, 
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Only in January, we had we had 
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coaching plans, right? 
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cool opportunity. 
I'm gonna fly down and train 

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every single one in person and 
fly back. 

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It was great. 
This is a people business as you

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know, so we try to do that with 
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traveling and especially being 
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talked quite extensively on our 
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binging purging making ourselves
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Thankfully in the past. 
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is hearing this for the first 
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Are I guess our last interview 
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coming into a prep was a huge 
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huge concern to me, I had been I
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100% sober from that if that's 
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this, the appropriate word to 
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believe. 
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processed foods are basically 
drugs. 

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marijuana and I and I think that
they're very, very deadly, if it

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doesn't kill you right away, 
it'll kill you, over the course 

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of your life. 
I believe, I believe sugar will 

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do that for People, maybe not 
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having having that going into 
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I was eating, especially because
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towards the end of my lean bulk.
I'd say I don't test body fat 

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percentages because none of them
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don't respond to body fat 
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Very well if they say that I'm 
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really expensive. 
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D fat, when I'm definitely over 
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So yeah, there's something and 
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electricity, or the vibrations 
of my body that doesn't agree 

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with it or whatever. 
But having started at 24 weeks 

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out, twenty two, twenty three. 
Twenty this is about a 2324 week

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prep. 
It was a big concern to me. 

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Reading in your book, the page 
that talks about eliminating 

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vegetables, and Illuminating 
volume is foods and focusing 

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more on the new Traditional 
value of the foods and it really

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made me look in the mirror and 
go I have to change, I can't eat

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food to feel full and to feel 
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And as you know most 
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fiber really ramp up the 
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the pipe. 
So they feel full and this one I

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was like I don't think that's a 
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as Such as after studying 
Roberts approach and a lot of 

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carnivores, even if they're not 
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carnivores people that embrace 
the carnivore diet and I was 

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like, you know what, I think. 
I really think that going into 

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this prep, we just need to 
eliminate vegetables and we need

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to focus on because there's no 
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vegetables compared to what you 
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That's my opinion. 
And I think that you're pretty 

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much a part of that too. 
But coming into this prep, I was

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like, this needs to be 
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exception of Quito breaks. 
Because that's a very high 

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quality product that's with with
a lot of nutritional value in 

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it, you know, you eat a keto 
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same as eating a process. 
Keto snack from the store? 

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Yeah. 
Look at the label that the 

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ingredients are completely 
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So thank you very much for your 
invention. 

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There are several of those 
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lie, I did have to cut them out 
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I have a bite of one of those 
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and it's game over. 
You know, totally man. 

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So like when you were when you 
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23 24 weeks ago, like what were 
you struggling with the like you

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weren't doing the binging and 
purging then per se. 

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Where, you know, I had a couple 
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would say, throughout January 
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encouraged a grand total of four
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And that's usually like, if 
Family came into town, and there

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was like, a whole tonight, a 
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birthday cake and stuff. 
Dude, we got, we got people who 

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went to culinary school in our, 
in our family. 

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And so the Temptations were 
there, and they did get the best

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to me a couple times throughout 
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from the start of the prep to 
the end of the parade. 

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So yeah, what do you think? 
Like a lot of people and as I've

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said, none of you, as you said, 
there's probably more people 

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with disordered eating habits in
the bodybuilding. 

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Use the not and for me you know 
kind of gravitating towards the 

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ketogenic approach was honestly 
probably the single best thing 

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that helped mitigate that 
disordered eating response. 

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Because I think so much of that 
disordered eating can see stems 

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from feeling guilty or feeling, 
you know, less than or like 

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you're lacking control. 
Are you beating yourself up 

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internally? 
And I feel like a lot of that 

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stems from eating foods that you
inherently know we're not great 

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quality foods. 
And some people will, you know, 

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in the flexible dieting space 
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itself is not bad. 
You can't look at it like that, 

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you can improve that 
relationship, but I think 

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anybody with half a brain would 
recognize that there are higher 

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quality foods and there are 
lower Quality Foods. 

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And if you're eating a ton of a 
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probably not optimal for your 
body. 

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So people that are eating a 
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are more amps to feel some sense
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And I feel like for me, at 
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ketogenic approach, Within the 
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never ate low-quality food. 
So I never had that guilt 

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associated with it and that that
in and of itself allowed me to 

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not feel the need to binge and 
Purge. 

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Yeah, yeah, no. 
That's that's a, I mean, that's 

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a wonderful testimony and tear 
point the the ketogenic diet 

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along with Along, with other 
things. 

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But the ketogenic diet was a 
huge part of it was a huge part 

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of Saving me from that. 
Yeah, I've been, I've been 100% 

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keto for keto /. 
Carnivore for two and a half 

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years now and my say 100%. 
It's 100% with an asterisk, 

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because it hasn't been perfect. 
I'll be 100% transparent. 

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Completely honest about that. 
But overall, that has been a 

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huge contributing factor and 
being able to like this thing 

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once and for all. 
Yeah, totally man. 

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So What other kind of outside 
circumstances? 

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We're driving. 
That's right. 

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The prime said you moved right 
in the middle of it. 

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That's, that's never easy. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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We moved right in the middle of 
it and it's funny that you ask 

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because I'm just following the 
doctor's orders right now and 

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kicking my feet up on my desk to
elevate my foot injury. 

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That wasn't that was the other 
stroll, the, the picture of your

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foot. 
But how do you actually like 

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what happened your foot? 
Exactly. 

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What's wrong? 
What's wrong is? 

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It's not broken. 
Really just cut it rope, right? 

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What exactly happened? 
Yeah, it's not broken. 

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It's not infected. 
And that is a miracle and we 

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give all the glory to God for 
saving me from my own stupidity 

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man. 
So I so Taylor and I needed to 

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move our Master press. 
Have you ever heard of a master 

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pressed? 
You know what, you know what 

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that machine is like a kitchen 
equipment, right? 

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No, sorry. 
It's it's not very well known 

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but it's man for you and for 
your gym, like I haven't, I've 

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never had the opportunity to 
visit your gym but you're I'm 

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not sure what you have four 
square footage there. 

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But if square footage is a 
concern and you're trying to get

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the most bang for your buck for,
like, what you can put in your 

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gym, bro. 
This is something that is just 

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an amazing invention for 
anybody. 

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It weighs about 800 pounds and 
it's an isolated rural isolated 

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rural for anybody. 
That doesn't know what that 

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means. 
Means you can use both arms at 

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one time, or you can use one arm
at a time or you can alternate, 

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right? 
So when you go into a gym and 

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you see the chest press machine,
that's plate, loaded by camera 

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strength. 
That's isil, a turtle because 

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you can either dual your left 
arm or your right arm or both 

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arms at the same time. 
So this this machine is an 

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isolated, rural bench press and 
shoulder press that you can set 

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the arms all the way down to the
floor. 

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So you can And it converges to 
meaning the arms come together, 

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right? 
So if you're doing bench press, 

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it's freaking awesome. 
Because there's constant tension

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on your pecs the entire time. 
Even when you lock out, you can 

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lock out and squeeze in your 
hands, almost touch. 

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And you still have tension on 
your triceps and on your pecs, 

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you can't do that with a 
barbell, right? 

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You can't even do that with 
dumbbells, really? 

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Because it, because it converges
as opposed to diverging, which 

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is where the arms come apart. 
So, this machine, You can use it

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for you can set, you can set a 
bench down set. 

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The arms up, load the plates on,
do a shoulder press, you can 

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move the arms down and lay down 
on the bench. 

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Do a bench press or an incline 
press or you can set on the 

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floor. 
And man, I just was literally 

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using it right now. 
Before I walked into this 

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interview and just nailing the 
real the rear delts on it. 

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If you change your foot position
your arm position, there's a 

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million different ways you can 
hit your rear. 

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Delts, my wife Taylor is found 
out how to do hamstring curls on

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it and stuff. 
I mean, she's She's obsessed 

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with building your hamstrings 
because she's so quad dominant. 

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But I mean you can use, you can 
bet you. 

445
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,600
If you're creative enough, you 
can use this machine to hit 

446
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,200
everything very safely, it's 
great, it's great for training 

447
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,300
clients on because you don't 
have to because you have to spot

448
00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:46,300
them. 
If they can't push the weight 

449
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:49,800
up, then they just then, just 
just drop it. 

450
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,300
It's okay. 
You know, like the bar at the 

451
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,300
bar is not going to fall on you.
The dumbbells not going to fall 

452
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:57,100
on you because it's machine and 
it's different than anything 

453
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,800
everybody's used like it's just 
it's just a slight different 

454
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,300
range of Ocean. 
So I mean, even in advanced 

455
00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:04,900
athlete doing a normal bench, 
press, you'll get something you 

456
00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:07,100
get something out of it. 
And I'm not, I'm not even 

457
00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:09,600
affiliated with this company. 
So there you go, Mike. 

458
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,000
You just probably sounded, like,
I'm trying to sell this thing. 

459
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,000
No, it's just a cool piece of 
equipment, man. 

460
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,700
Yeah, searched it as you were 
talking. 

461
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:19,800
So like I have seen that in your
gym and that the brain itself is

462
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,800
Master press. 
The brand itself is Master 

463
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,300
press. 
Yeah and they don't do a lot of 

464
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,000
social media. 
They're not very well known. 

465
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:32,400
I think the the cost on those is
Five or six grand. 

466
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,400
And we set up a payment plan for
a year. 

467
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,000
And I think we just made our 
last payment. 

468
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,100
So nice man, one of the best 
investments we ever made in our 

469
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:40,800
gym. 
Yep. 

470
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,400
What's the lead time on this 
image? 

471
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,100
Trying to get some more 
equipment for my gym and every 

472
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:47,400
company that I contact us like 
yeah we got a 20 to 26 week lead

473
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,500
time. 
No idea. 

474
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:51,500
I don't even I don't even know 
the manufacturers personally 

475
00:26:51,500 --> 00:26:56,800
actually it's the people that 
resale I bought it from a AER 

476
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,800
Fitness which is a reseller 
here. 

477
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,400
Sells my cable attachments, they
sell my skull dumbbells, they 

478
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,700
sell everything that Taylor and 
I make, and you're not in our 

479
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:12,300
shop here, skull bells of wise, 
and so through. 

480
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:15,100
So through them, they had one in
stock and we got it right to 

481
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:16,100
them. 
Nice. 

482
00:27:16,100 --> 00:27:19,000
Nice and that Ted's commented on
the Taylor. 

483
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,900
Just comment on the live and 
said, we should ask them. 

484
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,300
So yeah. 
Yeah, I like that. 

485
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:26,700
Look at that out for sure. 
Yeah, we can we can hook you up 

486
00:27:26,700 --> 00:27:28,000
with that bro. 
No problem in. 

487
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,700
And then hit like what you were 
moving. 

488
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,000
Then when You moved in that just
laying it on your foot somehow. 

489
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,700
Okay. 
Yeah. 

490
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:38,800
So we, we are moving it because 
we moved and we had and 

491
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,700
basically we had to tip it over 
so we could open the garage door

492
00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:44,600
and shut it long story. 
But the bottom line is we had to

493
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,000
move this thing so we had to tip
it, put it on its side which is 

494
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,900
extremely sketchy and this is 
where my stupidity comes in. 

495
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:56,600
I was not wearing shoes, so I 
guess it was like at the end of 

496
00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:59,500
the day, Mom prep. 
I'm like it's just freaking do 

497
00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:05,300
this and get it over. 
So we tipped it up and then when

498
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:09,000
we tipped it back, this thing 
weighs 800 pounds. 

499
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,600
Without any plates on it and it 
fell on my foot. 

500
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,200
Hmm. 
And there was blood everywhere. 

501
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,300
I didn't even know what 
happened, literally. 

502
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:19,100
Literally like it splattered 
everywhere. 

503
00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:22,200
And I looked at my toe, and my 
toe, is basically hanging by a 

504
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,000
thread. 
I could see the bone, I can see 

505
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,600
the ligaments. 
I can see everything. 

506
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,200
And my wife and I looked at it 
and we were just like you big to

507
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:36,100
know scuse me the toe right to 
the to the left of the door to 

508
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:39,600
the right of the big toe, the 
one the only have one toe so it 

509
00:28:39,608 --> 00:28:41,800
doesn't matter what side is. 
I guess it's the toe next to the

510
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,100
big toe guys. 
He gets he gets here, man. 

511
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:49,500
That sounds that sounds brutal. 
I saw the clip of you moving it 

512
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,400
into like the moving vehicle. 
Like try. 

513
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,300
That one was also sketchy but 
that was before after you busted

514
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,600
your foot. 
Before that was a few weeks 

515
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,700
before and then we moved it into
our into our new facility. 

516
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:04,400
And then when we moved into our 
new facility, the garage door 

517
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,600
was having issues. 
And so we had to have some 

518
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,500
garage door guys, come over and 
fix it, but that Master press 

519
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,600
had to move out of the way of 
the garage door for them to 

520
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,200
access and do what they needed 
to do. 

521
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:18,000
So that's why we had to move it 
again, man. 

522
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,300
There's in how many weeks out 
from the show. 

523
00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:21,400
Were you? 
When that happened? 

524
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:29,000
I was about Nine or ten weeks 
out and you couldn't. 

525
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,700
I mean, I'm assuming you 
probably couldn't be doing, you 

526
00:29:31,700 --> 00:29:34,500
know, a lot of like squats or 
things like that, like loading 

527
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,600
putting a bunch of weight on 
your back, and then like having 

528
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:38,600
a lot of pressure on your foot. 
I would imagine that without the

529
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,600
question, right? 
Yeah. 

530
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:45,200
And that has been something that
has actually affected my 

531
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:51,200
confidence and and affected my 
physique is I really had to stop

532
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,200
squatting. 
I had to stop training legs for 

533
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,700
a while. 
I had I had to stop. 

534
00:29:56,300 --> 00:30:01,700
I certainly had to stop running 
and it all became a nightmare. 

535
00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:03,600
Yeah, Taylor would like to 
energy. 

536
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,400
Sorry. 
I was watching this on live, but

537
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,300
your you were four weeks out. 
It was on our anniversary, we're

538
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,100
your four weeks out, and I felt 
like it was longer than that. 

539
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:14,900
Now, it was four weeks out. 
It was, I was like, oh my gosh, 

540
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:16,800
is he going to be able to 
compete after this? 

541
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:22,000
It was bizarre and then his 
stitches didn't heal and so the 

542
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,400
wound opened immediately after 
they took them out. 

543
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,800
And so he's been having a scene 
Other doctor for that but you 

544
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,600
made it you had a big rap on 
your foot but it's okay. 

545
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,100
Yeah, well, I still got picture,
like, you were doing like a way 

546
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:37,700
in and I saw your you took a 
picture of you on the scale to 

547
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,000
get you away. 
And that was the first time I 

548
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,700
saw your foot. 
There's like, like just gnarly 

549
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:44,300
looking stitches, hanging 
everywhere and big old gas and 

550
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:47,500
like what in the world happened 
to this guy's foot so that. 

551
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,800
Oh yeah. 
Basically almost Torres toe off 

552
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:55,400
and where it happened. 
It was built between it did. 

553
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,800
Tear my toe off. 
The toe is hanging by a thread. 

554
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,100
The doctor miraculously sewed, 
it back together. 

555
00:31:02,300 --> 00:31:06,500
Yeah it was bizarre he told me 
he was like I'm 99% sure we're 

556
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:08,700
just going to have to amputate 
your toe and you're not gonna 

557
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,800
and you're going to have nine 
toes rest your life and I was 

558
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,000
like, okay I mean I got nine 
other good ones. 

559
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,700
What's the what's the what's the
big issue so much? 

560
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:23,400
I've heard it's totally fine to 
have missing toes as long as you

561
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,500
get your big toe whereas if you 
had to lose your big toe then 

562
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:27,800
like Your balance gets gently, 
everything just gets jacked. 

563
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,400
I mean ideally, you have all 10 
toes. 

564
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:32,000
Yeah, but, but that's crazy, 
man. 

565
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,400
So, like not being able to 
squat, I can imagine. 

566
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,100
That would definitely put a 
damper on retaining, just 

567
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,200
overall mass in your lower body.
Now, the pictures I saw, I mean,

568
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,000
your lower body was freaking 
shredded. 

569
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:44,600
Like, you have the composition 
for sure. 

570
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,500
Massive tank separation between 
your quads and hamstrings like 

571
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:51,500
on your side, poses, but I can 
see I'm not been able to squat. 

572
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:54,900
Would certainly make retaining 
just sheer size volume with your

573
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:59,000
legs, pretty difficult. 
Yeah basically man just a 

574
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:04,200
shitload of leg extensions and a
shitload of freaking hamstring 

575
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,800
curls and I've always been glute
dominant so I've never I've 

576
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:12,400
never been one to ever ever 
isolate my glutes. 

577
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:16,300
It's like I never even want to 
think about training them 

578
00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:18,600
because every time I got long 
femurs. 

579
00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:21,600
So whenever I try and quads, I 
always work my glutes by 

580
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,100
accident. 
Kind of like front delts, right?

581
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:27,000
Like I never trained front delts
because you get It does by 

582
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:31,200
accident when you do bench and 
overhead presses but but I did 

583
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,600
lose a lot of glute Mass I did 
and the glutes were shredded 

584
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,700
veins sticking out of him. 
Like I've never seen before to 

585
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,300
the point to where it hurts to 
sit down on anything unless I 

586
00:32:41,308 --> 00:32:44,100
had three pillows. 
It's there still like that? 

587
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:50,300
Because I'm in between shows, 
but that definitely took a toll 

588
00:32:50,300 --> 00:32:55,800
on my symmetry losing that that 
that glute muscle when and at do

589
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,800
you have I really hurt my 
deadlifting, squat. 

590
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,800
Yeah, basically, basically my 
squad is just a joke. 

591
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,100
I mean most of my clients can 
probably squat more than me 

592
00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:06,000
right now. 
When are you one of the they say

593
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,500
you'd have you know, full 
recovery? 

594
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:09,500
I can't? 
What's the wait time on that? 

595
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,000
No but nobody knows only God 
knows because this it's just 

596
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,600
such a weird injury man. 
It's just everybody this look to

597
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,900
it. 
I've been to Probably three or 

598
00:33:21,900 --> 00:33:26,100
four different professional 
doctors when you professional 

599
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:29,500
doctors, you don't want to see 
an amateur doctor that's but 

600
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:34,300
after seeing three or four 
different Specialists, both of 

601
00:33:34,308 --> 00:33:36,900
them just kind of stare at it 
for 10 minutes and go, what the 

602
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:39,000
hell happened? 
I've never seen anything like 

603
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,100
this and I don't even know what 
to do about it. 

604
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,700
Yeah that's well man in like 
wouldn't happen I went and 

605
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,700
actually fell on. 
You was it like a straightedge 

606
00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:50,100
that fell on your total? 
Was it like like what part of 

607
00:33:50,108 --> 00:33:52,200
the equipment? 
Fill in your foot. 

608
00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,300
I don't know and just have no 
idea at all how it all happened.

609
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:01,300
So fast. 
All I know, is some something 

610
00:34:01,300 --> 00:34:07,300
that something fell on my foot 
tore, my toe off physically 

611
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:10,199
scientifically. 
I don't know how it happened and

612
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:13,300
you say notice it, they didn't 
even feel it in the moment like,

613
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:16,400
like, the no, I didn't feel, I 
didn't feel anything because 

614
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,699
like, I don't know if you've 
ever had a very severe injury or

615
00:34:19,699 --> 00:34:23,500
very severe cut or something, 
but like, you're basically, 

616
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:25,600
you're He's just kind of in 
shock, and you don't feel any 

617
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,800
pain at that point. 
And I probably took a and I 

618
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,199
probably took a hit a weed right
after that, just to calm down. 

619
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:35,300
Yeah, I dropped a 45-pound plate
on my toe and broke my toe, but 

620
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:38,500
I said, I definitely felt it and
I said all kinds of bad words 

621
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:40,900
after we finish the workout 
though. 

622
00:34:41,300 --> 00:34:43,800
But yeah, I can't imagine like 
totally obliterate my foot to 

623
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,800
the point of like toe Hanging On
by a thread with more weeks left

624
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,400
to go until stepping on stains 
and takes them some mental 

625
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,199
resolve right there to keep 
pushing through. 

626
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:55,199
Hmm. 
No. 

627
00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,000
Yeah. 
Then Taylor decided on the live,

628
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,000
she goes, then your then your 
stitches didn't heal properly. 

629
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,100
What was I mean the the picture 
I saw we do the scale way it 

630
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:06,400
looked like they're like, I 
don't know if it looked infected

631
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,700
but it looked like it wasn't a 
clean heal. 

632
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,300
So I'm assuming that that was 
going on to some extent. 

633
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:17,500
Yeah, so it's feeling now and 
it's bro, is that it is, it 

634
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:21,500
looks the best that it has in, 
in months, it really, really 

635
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:25,100
does. 
We've been praying Taylor and I 

636
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:29,100
have felt it placed in our 
hearts by the Holy Spirit to 

637
00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:33,400
pray and meditate. 
Every single day on saw, more on

638
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:40,800
Psalm 147 verse 3, which is he, 
he he binds up, he heals the 

639
00:35:40,808 --> 00:35:46,000
Brokenhearted and binds up their
wounds, that's nine words in 

640
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,100
the, in the English Standard 
translation. 

641
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:52,300
And then if you add and and that
was and I got to give, I got to 

642
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,500
give a big thank you to your 
wife. 

643
00:35:53,900 --> 00:35:59,600
For when she was on our show 
several months ago, she was 

644
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,100
talking quite extensively about 
how the book of Psalms got her 

645
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,800
through her prep. 
Yeah. 

646
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,900
And so, I was like, you know 
what, I'm gonna follow, crystals

647
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,200
example, and I'm going to just 
die, I'm just going to dive into

648
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,900
Psalms. 
So that's kind of where we 

649
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:15,600
discovered that passage. 
And, and we, and we just, and we

650
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200
just owned it, Psalm 147 3. 
Like, you know what? 

651
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,300
We're going to get through this.
Our dog's eye on my four-legged 

652
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:25,200
training partner has not missed 
a With me in 24 weeks and she 

653
00:36:25,207 --> 00:36:28,900
was backstage with me as a 
service dog, the entire the 

654
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:31,100
entire competition. 
So whenever I kind of get 

655
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,100
nervous, I just pet her and talk
talk through what I'm feeling 

656
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,900
with her and then I feel better,
and then I jump back on stage, 

657
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,000
but this is something that we've
been praying and meditating on 

658
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,700
every every single day through 
the prep for this healing 

659
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:52,900
process to, to Really Happen. 
Now, nine words in the, in the 

660
00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:54,500
English Standard. 
Translation. 

661
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,700
If you add the words, Psalm 147 
three. 

662
00:36:57,700 --> 00:37:00,600
That's three more. 
And we're invest 12 reps as 

663
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,400
bodybuilders. 
That's the hypertrophy range, 

664
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,700
that's like the money is on for,
like, almost any body part 

665
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:10,000
except legs, right? 
So, so for 12 reps, instead of 

666
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,400
counting to 12, and we teach and
we that we teach our clients 

667
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,500
that happen to Sheriff's the 
same Faith as us. 

668
00:37:15,500 --> 00:37:21,400
This to We Don't Force our faith
on anybody that doesn't doesn't 

669
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,700
share. 
But if somebody does happen to 

670
00:37:22,700 --> 00:37:26,500
share the same faith, that 
Something that we like to teach.

671
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,200
And something that we like to do
personally is instead of 

672
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,500
counting reps. 
Anybody can count 12, you get 

673
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:35,500
sick of doing that real quick. 
So today I was doing shoulder 

674
00:37:35,500 --> 00:37:37,900
presses right before coming in 
here, right? 

675
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:44,100
So instead of counting 12, 1 2 3
4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 I'm like He

676
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:48,100
heals the Brokenhearted and 
binds up their wounds Psalm 147 

677
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:50,600
3. 
So I know that's 12 reps and 

678
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:55,500
then I feel better at the end of
the set and makes the set more 

679
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:57,500
patmore powering and more 
encouraging. 

680
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,300
So that I'm encouraged and I'm 
Feeling Good by the end of my 

681
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:05,800
workout and that that has that 
is actually been a huge part of 

682
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,200
how I got to this prep, man. 
I love it man. 

683
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,400
If I like when you're in the 
present it's getting pretty much

684
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:11,700
healed now. 
That's good. 

685
00:38:11,700 --> 00:38:14,100
That's good. 
It's a You get you getting a 

686
00:38:14,107 --> 00:38:16,900
print menu. 
Get like last the last like four

687
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:19,200
weeks, man. 
There's actually, I think 

688
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,500
they'll last five from six weeks
out to like two weeks out like 

689
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,600
that window right. 
There is like shit hits the fan.

690
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,700
Like, that's the spot that's 
when your mind has to go to a 

691
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,600
certain place for some people. 
It's a good place for some 

692
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:35,000
people. 
It's not a good place. 

693
00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,300
Yep. 
But like that window, right 

694
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:41,000
there, from six weeks out, and 
up to, about two weeks out, if 

695
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,500
you're doing it, if you're doing
it, the way that I see, See 

696
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:44,900
that? 
You train all of your clients, 

697
00:38:44,900 --> 00:38:48,300
all of your clients are stage, 
ready from what I can see 

698
00:38:48,300 --> 00:38:50,800
because I follow all your 
clients and sure that surprises 

699
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,800
you but your your your clients 
are always stage dreaded. 

700
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,400
At least three or four weeks 
out. 

701
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,700
Yeah. 
And to go yeah. 

702
00:38:59,700 --> 00:39:03,000
That was the goal for me. 
And by God, we accomplish it. 

703
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:09,700
I was bone shredded about three 
weeks out, but that three to 

704
00:39:09,700 --> 00:39:13,300
five weeks where we were really 
grinding. 

705
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,800
Right before the right before 
that Reef, right before kind of 

706
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:17,700
just starting the introduce 
atrophied face. 

707
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,900
That's when everywhere, I went 
people look at you and they're 

708
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:24,400
like, what's wrong with you? 
Are you okay? 

709
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,500
Are you okay? 
Are you okay because it doesn't 

710
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:28,400
matter if your key to our you 
got carbs in your diet or 

711
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,300
whatever like you suffer during 
that time to get shredded, your 

712
00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:34,300
body does not want to get sure 
for sure. 

713
00:39:34,300 --> 00:39:36,500
But I feel like there's so much 
growth that happens there but 

714
00:39:36,500 --> 00:39:40,300
like you yeah you start to like 
meditate you start to. 

715
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:43,100
I mean if you're if you're a 
religious spiritual person, you 

716
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:44,700
leave. 
Into that if you're not, you 

717
00:39:44,700 --> 00:39:47,300
don't have to, you can lean into
whatever, whatever, whatever 

718
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:49,300
floats your boat. 
But like you start leaning into 

719
00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:54,100
things outside your Norm because
like you, you're just grasping 

720
00:39:54,100 --> 00:39:59,300
for straws to find ways to keep 
going and in doing that, I don't

721
00:39:59,300 --> 00:40:02,100
know. 
Like, you just discover another 

722
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:05,900
level within yourself that most 
people never have the 

723
00:40:05,900 --> 00:40:07,900
opportunity to experience. 
Like somebody's asked me just 

724
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:11,200
the other day, like, Monday. 
I think this week, why would 

725
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,100
anybody want to subject himself 
to prep? 

726
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:15,900
It's Necessary, like, your 
strength suffers your ability to

727
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:19,900
build muscle suffers like your 
health and hormones, likely 

728
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,600
suffer like, what in the world 
is the point and my answer was 

729
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:29,400
to be able to willingly 
experience that chapter because 

730
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,200
I don't really know any many 
other ways in which you can 

731
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:35,100
subject that upon yourself and 
really dig deep like that. 

732
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:41,000
Like like a prep offers, right? 
Our body is our three parts. 

733
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:47,800
Even even even Flatout 100% 
atheist agree that there's 

734
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:50,800
something in our bodies beyond 
what we can see physically, 

735
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,900
right? 
There's, there's a soul. 

736
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:55,900
We have feelings. 
We have emotions. 

737
00:40:56,100 --> 00:41:01,600
And regardless of your faith, we
can, we can all intellectually 

738
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,000
agree. 
There's something deeper 

739
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:09,100
emotionally than what you are 
than what you can see, and what 

740
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,600
you can, What you can prove by 
science. 

741
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:16,800
Right. 
So when you get to that point in

742
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:22,500
your prep, I feel like it's I 
feel like it's easier to tap 

743
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,600
into it and I feel like there's 
a lot of growth that happens 

744
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,000
there because you're pushing 
yourself almost in a Way Beyond 

745
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,600
what your body was meant to do 
physically. 

746
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,400
Yeah, I freaking love it, man. 
Like you have to eat. 

747
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,800
You kind of have to hate getting
there because you know, you 

748
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,000
can't just, you can't just like 
being, you're comfortable, you 

749
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:44,200
know, lackadaisical, you know, 
State and then flip a switch and

750
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,500
get there. 
Like you have to suffer to get 

751
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:48,600
there, you have to suffer get 
there. 

752
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,300
It's like oh yeah this was worth
worth it all because what I'm 

753
00:41:52,700 --> 00:41:55,800
what I'm discovering about 
myself now is worth and it's 

754
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,300
just worth it, you know. 
I love it. 

755
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,800
I mean that's why I like I don't
do a prep every year because 

756
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,400
it's not healthy in that, you 
know since. 

757
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,700
But to be able to do that every 
two or three years or so is just

758
00:42:07,700 --> 00:42:10,300
such an insightful moment. 
I always come out of that being 

759
00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:13,800
like reborn again so to speak. 
Yeah yeah. 

760
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,500
You got to you got to page in 
your book it's probably bookmark

761
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,700
but it's the one where You you 
basically summarized super 

762
00:42:21,700 --> 00:42:24,900
setting your life, like if I can
some if I could summarize that 

763
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:31,600
page in one sentence it would be
it would be it would be super 

764
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,600
sight of Life. 
I'll find it one second. 

765
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:38,200
Yeah, yeah, just like a like a 
prep ma'am, I don't know. 

766
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,100
Like you don't have to be like a
elite level bodybuilder, like 

767
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,500
people honestly, the first prep 
is probably the hardest prep for

768
00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:45,400
most people because they don't 
have any perspective. 

769
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:47,700
So they do that first prep. 
Without any perspective, they 

770
00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:50,600
don't know what. 
What's coming, and then they, 

771
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,300
that fear of the unknown allows 
their mind to go to very dark 

772
00:42:54,300 --> 00:43:00,300
places and that becomes hard 
eventually, I would like to be 

773
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:03,800
able to go through an entire 
prep and those around me. 

774
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:08,000
And I'm sure Taylor can say 
ditto on this but I'm sure I 

775
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,300
would want to get to place where
I can go through an entire 

776
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:13,500
forever look better than ever. 
But then all those around me 

777
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:15,900
would not even be able to know 
that I'm in a prep. 

778
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:17,000
You know, how cool would that 
be? 

779
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:19,500
That would be that. 
Be awesome. 

780
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:23,200
That would be nice. 
Yeah, it would be fun to do a 

781
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,900
competition prep and somehow 
just be a normal human being 

782
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,500
like any other athlete. 
You know, if your you just like 

783
00:43:32,300 --> 00:43:35,400
someone, that's in the, let's 
take an NHL athlete for an 

784
00:43:35,408 --> 00:43:40,200
example and in the middle of the
Stanley Cup Finals series, 

785
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,400
right? 
There. 

786
00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:46,700
They can eat pizza after that 
after the game. 

787
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,900
They can they can unwind and 
watch TV after the game. 

788
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,800
They can they can kind of check 
out bodybuilding.com. 

789
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:59,300
It is every second of every day,
it consumes you, but it makes 

790
00:43:59,300 --> 00:44:01,800
you into a discipline structured
person. 

791
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,100
Just such a different person 
than you were going into that 

792
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:07,800
prep in a very good way. 
Does it take a toll on your 

793
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:08,600
family? 
Yeah. 

794
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,900
Does it take a toll on your, on 
your marriage in some ways? 

795
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,800
But as it. 
But does it strengthen your 

796
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,400
family? 
Does it? 

797
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,400
Give does it? 
Give your family healthy. 

798
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,900
Eating habits coming out of it. 
Does it? 

799
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:22,100
Give your family more 
discipline, more control of 

800
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:26,500
their attitudes? 
Everybody knows in this house 

801
00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,300
that everybody's attitudes have 
to be in check, you know, it 

802
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:31,200
doesn't mean you can't express 
your emotions. 

803
00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,900
We should all have the freedom 
to be able to do that but 

804
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,700
whining and complaining and 
stuff that like you get very, 

805
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:40,900
very sensitive to your cortisol 
levels. 

806
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:45,100
If your cortisol is too high, If
my cortisol is too high, what 

807
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:48,200
does that do? 
That means that I can't train 

808
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,800
that means that I can train, but
the training won't work. 

809
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:54,700
I can I can train but I'm not 
going to build muscle and I'm 

810
00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:57,600
not going to lose fat. 
If my cortisol levels are where 

811
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,400
they're supposed to be, I can 
train. 

812
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,300
And I can lose fat. 
If I have a house that's full of

813
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:04,500
a screaming wife and full of 
screaming, full of screaming, 

814
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:08,700
kids that can't work. 
And I work from home, I work, I 

815
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,300
work from home, full-time, as a 
full-time online Couch, right? 

816
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,000
So We have a problem there so 
that that has required me to do 

817
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:21,700
actually 99.9% of all my 
training has been at home. 

818
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:25,400
Hasn't been a commercial gyms, 
it's been out of our private 

819
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:31,900
facility that we have here and 
It's required me, being at home 

820
00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:34,900
and being being involved as a 
dad, more to help regulate all 

821
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:37,300
that. 
And if some and if and if and if

822
00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:40,900
somebody's acting out of line, 
there's no tolerance for it, has

823
00:45:40,900 --> 00:45:45,300
to stop. 
And so it Coming. 

824
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,300
So coming out of a competition 
prep. 

825
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:51,900
I believe we've done this enough
times as a family were to where 

826
00:45:51,900 --> 00:45:54,700
they kind of they kind of know 
why we do it and what and why, 

827
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:07,100
why this is important but the 
the, the intensity of the Of the

828
00:46:07,100 --> 00:46:09,600
few weeks before the competition
and the few weeks after the 

829
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,200
competition, and how busy we 
are, it's worth it because of 

830
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,800
who you become for the process 
and what and what and what it 

831
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,100
does and unifying your family 
around a common goal. 

832
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,600
Yeah, totally agree. 
I feel like everybody just has 

833
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,500
to have an understanding and it 
has to just be open 

834
00:46:26,500 --> 00:46:29,300
communication there. 
You have to put systems in place

835
00:46:29,300 --> 00:46:32,600
to sit, not only you, but all 
those close to you up for 

836
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,900
Success. 
So, like here just being very 

837
00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:38,300
clear as to Why you have to 
sacrifice certain things for 

838
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:41,800
that moment in time and 
everybody being on board with 

839
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,000
that, not pressure. 
You but then also, I'm really 

840
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,200
being protective of like when 
you wake up when you go to 

841
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,300
sleep, when you relax, when you 
take some time to just simply be

842
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:55,200
at peace. 
And, and breathe. 

843
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600
I mean, like this, this next 
prep that I do. 

844
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,000
I'm gonna do a prep next year 
and like I'm gonna have a few. 

845
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,500
So sorry to cut you off. 
Are you going to compete or is 

846
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:06,000
it going to be another? 
This prep. 

847
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,600
Oh no, I'm competing. 
I'm happy because you only 

848
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:12,700
reason I did that before was be 
was because of it was because 

849
00:47:12,700 --> 00:47:14,400
of, you know what, because I'm 
not going to say it. 

850
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,900
Because I don't want this to be 
on the air, but there was a 

851
00:47:17,900 --> 00:47:19,400
something that happened 
worldwide that made it, so that 

852
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,600
nobody could compete in 
bodybuilding competitions. 

853
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,000
So yeah, yeah, that's the only 
reason you did a mock crap. 

854
00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:25,700
Yeah. 
So I had every intention to 

855
00:47:25,700 --> 00:47:28,500
competing in 2020, and then a 
week before, you know, the 

856
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:30,400
pandemic go with canceled 
everything. 

857
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,400
So yeah, that that did not go as
planned, but I did a photo 

858
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,500
shoot. 
Photo shoot was great but that 

859
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:41,500
was not the the week that I was,
you know, peaking for so, like 

860
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,100
the photoshoot looked great, but
it didn't. 

861
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:47,100
I didn't get his dialed in as, 
like, would have gotten had the 

862
00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:51,200
show's gone on, but you did look
better than you ever have before

863
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:51,900
though. 
Right? 

864
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,900
From what I saw, when I compared
your last show to that I was 

865
00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:56,800
like he looks better. 
Not even competing. 

866
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,800
And just and just finishing out 
this prep. 

867
00:48:00,100 --> 00:48:01,700
Yeah, he did his last show. 
Am I wrong? 

868
00:48:01,900 --> 00:48:04,200
No, you're right. 
I definitely did look better, 

869
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:07,700
but I did not take My Bonnie to 
the degree that I wanted to take

870
00:48:07,700 --> 00:48:10,800
it to in 2020, like I had a lot 
more to go. 

871
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:17,200
So I'll go that foreign 2023 
when I compete and it's going to

872
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,200
be good man because it's been I 
mean since since the everything 

873
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,600
I canceled 2020 haven't competed
since 2017 when are my Pro card.

874
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,700
So I'm definitely a chance to 
get back on stage and I feel 

875
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:30,300
like, I've bet you are in the 
work, you know, I'm going to 

876
00:48:30,300 --> 00:48:34,000
look the part for sure, but I'm 
gonna have a few non-negotiables

877
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,900
before that prep, Evan. 
Our psyche. 

878
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:39,500
I'm going to have everything 
that I need to have at my own 

879
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,400
facility. 
That is that's going to include 

880
00:48:42,100 --> 00:48:43,400
tan and banned. 
All the equipment. 

881
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,900
I'm gonna get a StairMaster I'm 
going to have more weight 

882
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:49,200
training equipment. 
I'm going to get a sauna that 

883
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,300
way I can have that from like a 
meditation piece but yeah, I'm 

884
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:55,900
gonna have everything in my own 
little Oasis so that nothing can

885
00:48:55,900 --> 00:49:00,800
penetrate that just bubble of 
you know my zone. 

886
00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:02,700
Yeah. 
Yeah not. 

887
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:05,700
That's that's that's a freaking 
awesome idea man because I mean 

888
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,000
especially you being a new dad, 
you're gonna be your son's going

889
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,800
to be a toddler at that point. 
It's like you're not going to 

890
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,200
want to leave the house and go 
and go to a commercial gym and 

891
00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:16,900
everything you got 99 percent of
everything you need and you can 

892
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:21,100
get creative to like my like 
Mike. 

893
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:22,800
My son is I'm a huge advocate of
the sun. 

894
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,900
I feel better after it. 
I did it burns calories. 

895
00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:28,800
I believe that it does even 
though science that they haven't

896
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,800
really proven it, but I get 
you're burning calories. 

897
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,300
If you're on the sauna for shirt
like you're covered in sweat and

898
00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:36,600
you're breathing hard, you know,
What kind of job you have? 

899
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:44,200
My sauna is my wife's car, so, 
and it only works in the summer,

900
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,200
that's it. 
That's another kind of Quirk 

901
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,500
about it. 
I have to give it to manufacture

902
00:49:47,500 --> 00:49:49,700
on that, but it's just, my 
wife's car. 

903
00:49:49,700 --> 00:49:53,900
She's not here. 
And I would most, my workouts 

904
00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:59,100
are always in the morning and I 
finished my workout on most 

905
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:00,400
days. 
I'm talking. 

906
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,200
Cardio. 
Everything I'm at home, I'm not 

907
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,700
in a rush. 
So my workouts could be five, 

908
00:50:05,700 --> 00:50:10,300
six hours long and and it might 
just be German volume training. 

909
00:50:10,300 --> 00:50:13,700
If I'm like, trying to just be a
dad for the entire day, right? 

910
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:17,500
So, it might just do the entire 
workout might be 30 sets of dips

911
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,600
and 10 sets of bicep curls, 
right? 

912
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:25,800
And that, and then tack on like,
30 minutes of cardio before 

913
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:32,600
that, and an hour of cardio 
after that, and then It's the 

914
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:37,400
first half of the day but then 
around like 1:00 or noon. 

915
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:42,200
It's what like it was 100 
degrees outside for a while and 

916
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,800
it was right at that point where
I was really getting peeled or 

917
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,500
shred that I've ever been in my 
life. 

918
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:51,900
And that's the perfect time for 
the Sonic because the cars just 

919
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:54,200
radiating heat. 
So I finished my post workout 

920
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,500
cardio covered in sweat anyway 
and I go just kick my feet up in

921
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:01,100
my wife's car and like man, I 
get it. 

922
00:51:01,300 --> 00:51:02,800
I get so hot and so sweaty in 
there. 

923
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,200
I could barely move by the time 
I get out, that's it. 

924
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:07,400
So, what is the temperature? 
Actually, in the car? 

925
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:09,700
No idea. 
I've never, I've never checked 

926
00:51:09,700 --> 00:51:12,300
it, it's made my phone overheat 
before. 

927
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,700
Yeah, I am it got a pretty hard 
thing because I mean mine like 

928
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,600
when I'm in a son and like an 
actual sauna and I've got my 

929
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,100
phone on me, definitely 
overheats. 

930
00:51:20,100 --> 00:51:22,000
I wonder I mean if it's doing in
the car it's got to be. 

931
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,700
I don't know what that that 
temperature point is, but it's 

932
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,200
gonna be pretty toasty. 
You know, who Mark is Tiger 

933
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,500
Fitness? 
Yeah, he when he's in the sauna 

934
00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:33,100
has a nice. 
Behind his phone and he does 

935
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:35,300
YouTube lives in there. 
Nice. 

936
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:36,900
It's pretty smart. 
Yeah. 

937
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,100
Yeah. 
I'm definitely going to sign it 

938
00:51:38,107 --> 00:51:40,300
before this next prep though, 
for sure, I feel like if I have 

939
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,500
that to like train and then go 
sit in the Sun and then just 

940
00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:47,300
simply breathe and meditate, 
listen to an audiobook, listen 

941
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:50,800
to a podcast, listen to, you 
know, Native American flute, 

942
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,000
music, whatever it is, I'm 
listening to. 

943
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,700
But then just simply zone out 
for 20-30 minutes. 

944
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,200
And then, resume my day, if I've
got like two hours where I'm 

945
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,200
just training doing cardio and 
then and then whatever else, 

946
00:52:01,300 --> 00:52:03,900
This comes, it can come but if 
I've got those two hours and I'm

947
00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:05,600
solid. 
Yeah. 

948
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:09,800
Yeah, it's gonna be good. 
Are you gonna you got the show 

949
00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:12,400
coming up and you got you got 
two shows left this season, 

950
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,700
right? 
Yeah I got two shows left this 

951
00:52:14,700 --> 00:52:16,700
season. 
The next one's going to be in a 

952
00:52:16,707 --> 00:52:19,200
week and a half. 
That's going to be in Omaha 

953
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,200
Nebraska and I would never ever.
There's no there's no reason for

954
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:29,400
me to do that show for my 
coaching and for my content and 

955
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:31,800
the business reasons why I 
compete in the first place. 

956
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:37,500
Other than this is going to be 
this lady's first competition 

957
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:41,800
and she looks absolutely 
spectacular and so Taylor and I 

958
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,800
both looked at my wife and I 
both looked at each other and I 

959
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,900
was like, If I want her to do 
the absolute best that she can, 

960
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:52,200
I'm gonna take part of her 
coaching expenses, that, that 

961
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,400
she, that she paid us. 
And we're going to pay out of 

962
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,200
our own pocket for the rest of 
everything else that we need for

963
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,300
me to go there and trainer and 
and, and hold her hand through 

964
00:53:00,300 --> 00:53:04,400
the show. 
Now, I just did a show two and a

965
00:53:04,408 --> 00:53:06,600
half weeks ago, and I got 
another show a couple weeks 

966
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:12,500
after that here locally. 
So if the, it makes no sense for

967
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:15,600
me to not compete, as long as 
I'm there, especially You add in

968
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:19,000
the fact that it's basically 
just as expensive to go 

969
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,800
backstage as a coach at these. 
It doesn't matter if it's NPC or

970
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:24,800
Insanity and be after I pee or 
whatever. 

971
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,500
Yeah. 
I mean, coaches have to pay a 

972
00:53:27,500 --> 00:53:31,800
lot of fees to to to be there. 
So Mike, you know what? 

973
00:53:31,900 --> 00:53:35,000
I'm going to do less categories.
I'm not going to go all out and 

974
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,400
do every single category. 
Like I normally do all do one or

975
00:53:37,408 --> 00:53:41,600
two categories, but my attention
to my focus is on, is on her. 

976
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:45,700
Now, if I'm stepping on stage, 
Use my language. 

977
00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:49,000
I try to not say this word on 
the other, but I'm like, I'm, 

978
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:54,600
I'm going to fucking win man. 
Like it's yeah, it's it is 

979
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,300
another show. 
So that's the next one. 

980
00:53:56,300 --> 00:54:02,700
And then we got Jarrett Carly 
and maybe Lawrence, we're not 

981
00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:05,200
sure, we're not sure about him 
and a couple other people that 

982
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,900
are, that are dialed in for one 
here in the Seattle area that's 

983
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:11,300
going to be on November 11th and
12th night. 

984
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,600
Nice. 
So with you training, like I 

985
00:54:13,607 --> 00:54:16,000
exclusively work with people who
are doing Judging that people 

986
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:18,400
have come to me and they've 
wanted to do other, you know, 

987
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,600
mixed diets and I don't do it. 
Like I try to make my ultra 

988
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,700
Niche specialty, ketogenic 
nutrition with you. 

989
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,700
Having a mixed bag of clientele,
some doing keto, some doing 

990
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,900
carnivores I'm doing a bunch of 
carbs, more traditional route, 

991
00:54:31,900 --> 00:54:33,800
what are some things that you're
noticing? 

992
00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:38,400
Like in comparing you different 
clients like, Dee Dee you find 

993
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:42,200
that, you know, they noticed 
like a trend a certain way, as 

994
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,000
far as sustainability goes like 
what are some common out? 

995
00:54:45,100 --> 00:54:46,800
These and what are some total 
stark contrast that you're 

996
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:48,300
seeing in? 
Why people would want to go one 

997
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:51,500
way or the other? 
I would say off the top of my 

998
00:54:51,500 --> 00:54:54,700
head, the first thing that my 
first response to that would be 

999
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:59,300
that our clients that are on 
high carb diets II. 

1000
00:54:59,900 --> 00:55:05,500
Encourage everyone to give keto 
or carnivore a try and if 

1001
00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,600
they're not a fan of the idea I 
don't push it. 

1002
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,600
My great. 
You want you want us to be our 

1003
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,800
coaches, but you don't want us 
to do the kid gennaker a 

1004
00:55:13,808 --> 00:55:16,700
carnivore approach. 
That's fine. 

1005
00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:20,900
You're probably going to be 
hungrier doing this prep and 

1006
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,300
you'll probably feel a lot 
better on the ketogenic prep. 

1007
00:55:23,700 --> 00:55:29,300
I've done eight natural 
bodybuilding shows with carbs in

1008
00:55:29,300 --> 00:55:31,700
my diet as my primary fuel 
source. 

1009
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:35,600
This is the first show that I've
ever done on the ketogenic diet.

1010
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:39,400
And I'm telling you, there's a 
night and day difference between

1011
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:44,500
how you feel your health. 
Now, how big you can get filling

1012
00:55:44,500 --> 00:55:50,300
out on. carbs versus filling out
on fats and put in fat and 

1013
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:57,500
protein, I guess that's 
debatable but I certainly from 

1014
00:55:57,500 --> 00:56:05,900
my personal experience have not 
noticed losing any muscle mass 

1015
00:56:05,900 --> 00:56:10,300
or fullness from from the way 
that I do it or the way that you

1016
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:14,300
do it without cards because at 
the end of the day it's glycogen

1017
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:20,400
and How it becomes glycogen is 
more a matter of method, but 

1018
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,300
but, but I do tell him my 
opinion is like, you're going to

1019
00:56:24,300 --> 00:56:25,600
suffer. 
You're going to suffer either 

1020
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,100
way. 
Yeah, if you're going to 

1021
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:30,300
compete, you're not doing this. 
Because you want, you want to 

1022
00:56:30,308 --> 00:56:33,000
feel good and you're bored and 
want to try something like 

1023
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,800
you're doing this because you're
either weird, like I am or you 

1024
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:40,100
got like something and something
in your heart or something. 

1025
00:56:40,100 --> 00:56:42,900
You want to prove ourselves or 
it's just something you've 

1026
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:44,900
always wanted to do your life, 
it doing. 

1027
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:46,600
Your life and you really really 
want to do it. 

1028
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:49,200
Okay, so we can all agree that 
we're going to suffer. 

1029
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,800
I my experience is that you're 
going to suffer less if you 

1030
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,800
eliminate carbs altogether 
because your body doesn't need 

1031
00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:59,500
carbs, your body needs to 
macronutrients in. 

1032
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:01,900
That's it. 
It needs protein and it needs 

1033
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:03,200
fat. 
And if you don't have those, 

1034
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,700
you're going to die when you get
into a competition prep and you 

1035
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:09,500
get down to two or three percent
body fat and you can see your 

1036
00:57:09,500 --> 00:57:11,800
glute striations. 
And you can see stuff that 

1037
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,200
you're not even supposed to be 
able to see and that no one 

1038
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,000
wants to see him. 
Sarah judge. 

1039
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:22,200
Then your your body is your body
is at a point to where It's 

1040
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,500
being, it's being pushed, 
extremely hard and and it's 

1041
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:29,300
almost you could almost 
borderline. 

1042
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:31,600
I hate this word. 
You could almost borderline, 

1043
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,200
call it starvation mode, your 
body. 

1044
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,400
Kind of does go into starvation 
mode which is why your 

1045
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,000
testosterone can dip if you're a
male and what, or a female and 

1046
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,300
you can have and you can 
experience some hormonal issues.

1047
00:57:43,300 --> 00:57:48,400
But if you're going into 
starvation mode, then why it 

1048
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,700
just makes no sense to me. 
Why carbs would be such a 

1049
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,700
Priority. 
I get it because it fills you 

1050
00:57:53,700 --> 00:57:56,100
out. 
Yeah, it's important for energy.

1051
00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,700
Okay. 
But can you get energy from 

1052
00:57:58,700 --> 00:57:59,500
protein? 
Yeah. 

1053
00:57:59,500 --> 00:58:04,500
Can you get energy from fat? 
Yeah, so my theory is drop the 

1054
00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:08,500
carbs and focus on the only two 
macro nutrients that your body 

1055
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:12,700
needs. 
And I think that it helps to 

1056
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:17,800
minimize the body's response to 
being in a starvation mode in 

1057
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,700
the first place because you, 
because you are still getting 

1058
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:22,400
what your body needs. 
Your body doesn't need carbs. 

1059
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:23,900
Yeah, hundred percent agree, 
man. 

1060
00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:26,800
I mean, I feel like, you know, 
for me I've done and then 

1061
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:30,500
perhaps, Same with cars, have 
done, perhaps with Quito, and 

1062
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:32,400
they are absolutely hard either 
way. 

1063
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,800
So for anybody that says that 
there's, they've got a down 

1064
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,000
that's gonna make a prep 
breathes. 

1065
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,500
I mean, they're lying, but 
there's definitely a difference 

1066
00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:44,800
in How I Feel throughout the 
primp, by overall level of 

1067
00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:48,300
satiety, I'm still hungry for 
sure, but there's a difference 

1068
00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:53,500
between being like uncomfortably
hungry and just like miserably 

1069
00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:56,100
hungry, you know, have you 
noticed this? 

1070
00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:01,600
Have you Have you noticed that 
hunger comes and goes on the 

1071
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,400
ketogenic diet if you're really 
fat adapted, if you're in 

1072
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:08,500
ketosis, like you'll get hungry,
but you distract yourself and 

1073
00:59:08,508 --> 00:59:10,100
then 15 minutes later, you're 
not hungry. 

1074
00:59:10,100 --> 00:59:12,400
If I have carbs in my diet, I 
can't do that. 

1075
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:14,500
Yeah, yeah. 
And it's weird thing. 

1076
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:16,900
It was with, like, the volume at
the high-volume foods, like when

1077
00:59:16,900 --> 00:59:18,700
I was eating a bunch of high 
fiber foods even when I didn't 

1078
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:23,100
have volume Foods, when I first 
started doing keto, not so much 

1079
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:25,600
now, like this last prep I was 
just super strict on nutrient 

1080
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:29,300
density and not so much volume. 
But in the past, when I would 

1081
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:33,600
focus on the volume I would have
a lot of volume, my stomach, I 

1082
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,300
got to have, you know, my 
midsection will be distended, I 

1083
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:39,500
would have a lot of bulk in 
there, but that does not equate 

1084
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:43,900
to satiety like you can have a 
massive bowl of mixed greens but

1085
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:47,200
you'd s not necessarily are 
going to feel full after that. 

1086
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,600
Like you may feel physically 
full. 

1087
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:52,200
But there's no, that does not 
mean you are truly satiated and 

1088
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,700
like I cracked a hundred, a 
hundred feel that by having much

1089
00:59:55,700 --> 01:00:00,600
less volume but more Intensity. 
I feel like there's definitely 

1090
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,700
not a lot of bulk in there and I
have to empty in that regard, 

1091
01:00:03,700 --> 01:00:06,200
but I feel much more satisfied 
overall. 

1092
01:00:07,500 --> 01:00:12,600
The first eight shows that I 
did, were all very, very high 

1093
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,900
fiber. 
Like insanely high fiber. 

1094
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:17,800
Towards the end and Taylor will,
if she be, she stepped out. 

1095
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:20,300
Was if she was here, she would 
be rolling her eyes right now, 

1096
01:00:20,300 --> 01:00:22,000
going. 
Like she would probably 

1097
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:23,800
interrupt me and go. 
Oh, no. 

1098
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,900
It was every single week meal 
prep was an insane amount of 

1099
01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:34,100
Brussels sprouts, and broccoli, 
and cauliflower, and just the 

1100
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:37,200
lowest calorie vegetables that 
we can. 

1101
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,600
And like, that was basically my 
carb sources. 

1102
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:43,200
Like I was just trying to 
survive and not overeat. 

1103
01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:46,100
Mmm, now, coming into this prep,
I was like, hey, this is show 

1104
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:47,800
number 9. 
What did I learn from the first 

1105
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,200
eight being bloated? 
All the time? 

1106
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,700
I don't think was a good idea, 
certainly wasn't convenient. 

1107
01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:58,900
I mean like that's time that I 
could have picked, I could that 

1108
01:00:58,900 --> 01:01:03,400
I should have been sleeping or 
working out or doing something 

1109
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,300
like that. 
That's Pro. 

1110
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:09,400
That's one of the biggest if not
Not the biggest benefit of the 

1111
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,800
ketogenic diet or the carnivore 
diet. 

1112
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,200
Is that you don't you don't have
as many frickin macros to keep 

1113
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,300
track of you. 
Don't even have to worry about 

1114
01:01:17,300 --> 01:01:20,300
carbs or vegetables or Fiber I 
mean there's so much less to 

1115
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:23,000
track. 
It's simpler it's easier on your

1116
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,600
family it's just easier on you 
as a human being. 

1117
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:29,700
It's so much simpler and so 
coming into this prep I was like

1118
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,400
We need a different strategy, 
we're not going to do that 

1119
01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:35,000
again. 
That was a nightmare. 

1120
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:41,000
Let's focus on a meat-based diet
with nutrition, and it'll take 

1121
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:45,300
me as long. 
I call this Tes time eating 

1122
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:46,400
steak. 
Okay? 

1123
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:48,500
So if you're doing nothing but 
steak every day, which is 

1124
01:01:48,700 --> 01:01:50,200
technically possible. 
You can do that. 

1125
01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:52,400
I've done it before. 
It's very enjoyable actually, 

1126
01:01:53,100 --> 01:01:55,800
and if you're eating nothing, 
but steak every day and you eat 

1127
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:59,000
steak, like, properly and enjoy 
every single bite and you have 

1128
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,000
two or three different really 
Salts that you're putting on it 

1129
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:06,500
and having some fun with it. 
Then I mean it should take you a

1130
01:02:06,500 --> 01:02:08,100
while to eat that steak you 
know. 

1131
01:02:08,100 --> 01:02:12,200
It's and that's the compare that
to someone who shoves down a 

1132
01:02:12,207 --> 01:02:15,200
salad, okay. 
Suppose they're this, they're 

1133
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,400
the same amount of calories and 
this and the same macro ratios. 

1134
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,400
If you like make your salad to 
have the same macros as a steak,

1135
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,100
obviously, is going to be a 
little bit of Trace carbs. 

1136
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:29,400
But If but, but for me, 
personally, wolfing down a 

1137
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,300
salad. 
I'm going to be starving after 

1138
01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:33,400
that. 
I'm going to, I'm going to feel 

1139
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:37,500
sick and Bloated, and it'll in 
the end, it'll take me 10 15, 30

1140
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:40,300
minutes to eat a big salad. 
That's an amount of calories and

1141
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:43,400
stake, a probably take me twice.
As long, Tes time, eating steak.

1142
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,700
I'm enjoying it for longer. 
It's what my body actually 

1143
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:51,000
needs, and I feel better and I 
go to sleep better, and that's 

1144
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,600
why I wake up, not bloated. 
Yeah, doesn't matter. 

1145
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:54,800
It doesn't matter how much 
protein is. 

1146
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,300
My body wants all of it and uses
all of it. 

1147
01:02:57,300 --> 01:02:59,800
Then I'll go somewhere. 
No, need to make sense, man. 

1148
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,600
It becomes muscle tissue or 
glycogen. 

1149
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,100
I am guilty of eating very fast 
when I'm hungry. 

1150
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:07,900
So, like, how I would eat a meal
in my prep and I may be gone in 

1151
01:03:07,908 --> 01:03:10,200
like two minutes, man. 
Like you there's not sticking 

1152
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,900
around for a long. 
So, I am trying to eat much 

1153
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:15,000
lower because that's going to 
help from a digestion and 

1154
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,200
absorption standpoint, lots of 
benefits that come with being 

1155
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,800
slow. 
I'm just guilty of not following

1156
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,000
any of the recommendations 
there. 

1157
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:24,400
Yep. 
But not a lot. 

1158
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,100
And you know what? 
Dude your book is what is what 

1159
01:03:27,100 --> 01:03:30,300
sent me over the edge to, and 
just for the record and, you 

1160
01:03:30,300 --> 01:03:33,700
know, anybody that cares that 
that's super set, your life, the

1161
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:40,300
page was page, one of the 
chapter that's titled prep for 

1162
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:43,800
prep. 
So page, 37 and 38 is where you 

1163
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,100
go into like, what bodybuilding 
does for you as a person, what 

1164
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,700
you and who you become through 
the process. 

1165
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:51,700
Nice. 
But I think it's like a couple 

1166
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:54,000
check chapters of afterwards 
where you say that? 

1167
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:59,000
You where were you? 
Staying at prioritizing, you're 

1168
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,400
prioritizing nutrients and not 
volume of food. 

1169
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:08,400
But nutritional value is, what 
is where is how you should 

1170
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,000
measure your satiety? 
Yeah, 100%. 

1171
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,200
My mean, one thing I was really 
proud of with this last prep I 

1172
01:04:13,207 --> 01:04:18,900
did is every single meal that I 
consumed I was incorporating. 

1173
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,000
Some of the venison that I had 
killed, you know, during hunting

1174
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,400
season, the year prior had Wild 
game in there. 

1175
01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:28,200
I had an organ meat with some of
it, like I wasn't a stickler 

1176
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,400
about origami but I did have 
some organ meat, you know, 

1177
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,800
intermittently throughout the 
prep. 

1178
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:34,000
I had a brick every single day 
at a keto brick. 

1179
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,300
One, full brick every single day
and then pretty sure and eggs 

1180
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,600
every single day. 
But yeah, just super nutrient 

1181
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:42,900
dense. 
Stuff, not really any excess 

1182
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:45,900
volume at all. 
And I felt great, you know, felt

1183
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:48,800
like a million bucks. 
Sounds like you felt great and I

1184
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:50,400
mean, you've got a bunch of 
clients. 

1185
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,000
I've got a bunch of clients, a 
lot of people have gone through,

1186
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,100
perhaps, doing a Very similar 
protocol to this and they're 

1187
01:04:58,100 --> 01:05:02,200
seen great success with it. 
So I don't know I'm doubtful 

1188
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:06,300
that this style of prepping is 
ever going to, you know, exceed 

1189
01:05:06,300 --> 01:05:09,500
or surpass the momentum that 
like the flexible dieting 

1190
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:12,400
Community has. 
But I'm feel very confident that

1191
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:16,100
so many people that have come 
from that background have not 

1192
01:05:16,100 --> 01:05:19,400
done well with it. 
Have found you know, success 

1193
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,200
doing a ketogenic approach and 
are able to mitigate their 

1194
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,100
disorder eating Tendencies 
improve their hormonal health 

1195
01:05:24,100 --> 01:05:26,200
and the They become much more 
sustainable for them, like 

1196
01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:28,800
that's that's my goal with all 
of this man. 

1197
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:32,500
That's my mission has been from 
day one like simply offering a 

1198
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:35,600
potentially better alternative 
for people that this would 

1199
01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,600
resonate more with than what 
they've done in the past because

1200
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:43,900
I truly do believe. 
It's much much healthier, 100% I

1201
01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:46,500
love it, man. 
Will you have two more shows? 

1202
01:05:46,500 --> 01:05:48,400
Coming up? 
I'm stoked to see you on stage, 

1203
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:50,000
so I'm glad that your foot is 
healing up. 

1204
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,200
I'm glad that life is going well
and you just killing it. 

1205
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,300
On all fronts and super setting 
your life. 

1206
01:05:55,900 --> 01:05:58,100
You're like, you're like Drop 
setting super setting throwing 

1207
01:05:58,100 --> 01:06:00,500
in some negative, four straps 
and everything, and all the 

1208
01:06:00,500 --> 01:06:03,700
above. 
But where do people go to find 

1209
01:06:03,700 --> 01:06:05,100
out more about you, man? 
How do they, how do they get 

1210
01:06:05,100 --> 01:06:08,800
into your world? 
But before I answer that 

1211
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,000
question, I have to tell you 
something, extremely 

1212
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,700
embarrassing and I'm really, 
really sorry and I'm asking Your

1213
01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:18,500
forgiveness but I'm a cop. 
I'm on the topic of being in 

1214
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:20,900
between shows. 
I'm consuming an insane amount 

1215
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:24,300
of water every day and I've held
it for as long as I can. 

1216
01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:26,500
We'll probably want to edit that
out. 

1217
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,400
But is it is it okay if I'm back
in 30 seconds to wrap up? 

1218
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:31,500
Yeah, for sure. 
Thanks. 

1219
01:06:31,500 --> 01:06:33,700
I'll be right back, but we are 
recording again. 

1220
01:06:33,700 --> 01:06:34,700
I'm not even gonna hit that out,
man. 

1221
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:36,200
I'm just going to leave it in 
there and people can know that 

1222
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:39,700
had to pee. 
Yeah, it's a funny. 

1223
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:43,400
It's a funny story because, but 
are we recording, right? 

1224
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,400
Uh, yeah. 
We're live. 

1225
01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:51,900
Okay. 
We have we have fun entertaining

1226
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,200
stories as bodybuilders where 
it's like oh like only 

1227
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:56,800
bodybuilders I have to have to 
deal with this kind of stuff and

1228
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:59,400
and and do this but I know 
you're not a fan of cutting 

1229
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:02,200
water to that's kind of the 
other thing that I like to do is

1230
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:08,400
not cut it but I do drink an 
insane amount of water on Peak 

1231
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,400
Week specifically on Friday and 
then drink it. 

1232
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:18,700
To it--i've lead on Saturday 
depending on how a dry it looks.

1233
01:07:18,700 --> 01:07:21,200
So I drink a lot less water on 
Saturday. 

1234
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,300
Use it to find pup heading in 
the I mean like mint. 

1235
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:28,500
I dunno, I don't drink like I'll
drink my normal water intake and

1236
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:32,800
they all not try to, you know, 
remove water intake on Saturday.

1237
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,800
But I try to, you know, minimize
it and taking small amounts that

1238
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,000
I'm able to kind of adjust the, 
my body's looking real time and 

1239
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,200
then not feel like I've got to 
run to the bathroom right before

1240
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:46,300
I step, On stage, you know, 
right, but yeah. 

1241
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:49,200
No. 
We so my coach had me drinking 

1242
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,500
four gallons of water than I the
night before the show, which 

1243
01:07:51,500 --> 01:07:54,900
I've, which I pretty much still 
do in this was this is the last 

1244
01:07:54,900 --> 01:07:59,500
one that we did w NB F in 
Edmonton, my coach and I 

1245
01:07:59,500 --> 01:08:01,900
competed together. 
This was the one of the Year 

1246
01:08:01,900 --> 01:08:04,000
prior shows. 
Yeah. 

1247
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,600
Yeah. 
This is, this is, this is before

1248
01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,500
Quito and we both had to pee and
have gotten back to our hotel 

1249
01:08:09,500 --> 01:08:13,500
after tanning. 
And I had to go, he had to go. 

1250
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:15,400
And there were no ifs, ands or 
buts. 

1251
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:17,399
Like we wouldn't have made it up
the stairs. 

1252
01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,200
And so we just pulled over in a 
back alley and there are people 

1253
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:22,100
driving by more. 
Like, I don't even care if 

1254
01:08:22,100 --> 01:08:26,200
people see this, then if 
they've, if they've seen, if 

1255
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,700
they've seen it before, it's 
nothing new. 

1256
01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:29,899
If they haven't seen it before, 
they won't know what it is, 

1257
01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:31,100
right? 
Hey, when you gotta go, you 

1258
01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:35,300
gotta go, man, I know the and 
we, bro, we've had to do, like, 

1259
01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:38,800
pull out water bottles in the 
middle, in the middle of the 

1260
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:41,100
drives, we had to do that at 
this, at this last one, after 

1261
01:08:41,100 --> 01:08:44,600
after this time, this last show,
I didn't make it. 

1262
01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,200
I didn't make it back, had the 
think. 

1263
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,300
I think I filled up three water 
bottles in the car because it 

1264
01:08:50,300 --> 01:08:52,600
was Seattle traffic and there 
was no pulling over there was 

1265
01:08:52,600 --> 01:08:54,600
nothing. 
So weird like don't drive by any

1266
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,500
semis. 
This is an emergency but we got 

1267
01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:00,700
it. 
We got it taken care of when you

1268
01:09:00,700 --> 01:09:02,800
when you're trying to figure out
what your sweet spot is was like

1269
01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:05,800
hydration levels, sodium, 
potassium, magnesium, all this 

1270
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,700
stuff, man. 
Yeah like I think things are 

1271
01:09:08,700 --> 01:09:10,800
just a little out of normal, you
know, a Lackey. 

1272
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,399
I figure out where that sweet 
spot lies. 

1273
01:09:12,700 --> 01:09:14,100
So I yeah. 
I get it. 

1274
01:09:14,100 --> 01:09:17,200
No need to explain yourself 
there but yeah man or people go 

1275
01:09:17,207 --> 01:09:20,100
to find out more about you dive 
into your world wants the prep 

1276
01:09:20,100 --> 01:09:22,700
Endeavors and just see what you 
got going on man. 

1277
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:28,600
Let's see our podcast is the 
super set your life.com podcast 

1278
01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:34,399
so just like bodybuilding.com 
our business name is also our 

1279
01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:37,899
website. 
So again that is the superset. 

1280
01:09:37,899 --> 01:09:42,800
Your life.com all one word the 
super set your life.com podcast.

1281
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:48,300
Our YouTube channel is where 
we're focusing the most on right

1282
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:50,200
now and getting the most 
traction. 

1283
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:57,600
And that is Skull Bells TV. 
I'm going to spell it out, SK U 

1284
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:04,800
LL. 
B, e LL Z TV skull, Bells TV. 

1285
01:10:05,100 --> 01:10:10,000
We make skull-shaped dumbbells, 
we make skull-shaped curl bars. 

1286
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:14,100
They are all out of stock right 
now because being on, We had to 

1287
01:10:14,100 --> 01:10:14,900
look at. 
Okay. 

1288
01:10:14,900 --> 01:10:19,800
What then our lives is giving us
the least profit margins right 

1289
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:26,400
now and making handcrafted 
workout equipment is not the 

1290
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,200
most lucrative in the in the, in
the world of bodybuilding. 

1291
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:34,400
So that kind of had to take a 
backseat until after the, after 

1292
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,800
these preps. 
And I can stay up longer at 

1293
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:40,200
night and making those. 
But yeah, skull Bells, TV, SK U,

1294
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:44,900
LL, b, e LL Z TV. 
Well, Valley Mannie, the Rope 

1295
01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:47,500
the Rope attachment, man, like, 
you sent me one of those, and I 

1296
01:10:47,508 --> 01:10:48,800
pretty much use that thing every
day. 

1297
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:52,600
Yeah, thanks, man. 
And your boy, that that, that 

1298
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:55,600
tricep exercise, that you came 
up with how to use that cable 

1299
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:57,600
attachment with the split, the 
scope with the skulls on it. 

1300
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,700
That's one that I'm like, man, 
why the hell didn't? 

1301
01:10:59,700 --> 01:11:01,500
I think of that. 
So I recorded the training 

1302
01:11:01,500 --> 01:11:02,800
video. 
Now we're teaching that with all

1303
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,400
of our clients and I'm like yep,
Robert Sykes invited that one. 

1304
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,100
My Robert Sykes vetted that move
always always like, that's fun 

1305
01:11:10,100 --> 01:11:12,500
thing about money, but man he 
created I once you know how the 

1306
01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:14,800
body works. 
Then you can like just look at 

1307
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,500
different piece of equipment. 
Look at different machines, get 

1308
01:11:17,500 --> 01:11:20,400
creative on how to use them and 
then Target things in ways that 

1309
01:11:20,700 --> 01:11:23,000
most people probably wouldn't 
think as the traditional way of 

1310
01:11:23,008 --> 01:11:25,200
doing something. 
Exactly. 

1311
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:29,100
Yeah, you get creative. 
You're like I could I could use 

1312
01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:33,500
my, I could use my kids for 
freaking French presses. 

1313
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,600
I mean they that Giggles makes 
them laugh, don't do it too 

1314
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,500
much, they'll probably throw up.
But like but you know, you know,

1315
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:41,400
you know what around the worlds 
are where, you know, yeah, where

1316
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,300
you great. 
Yeah, it's a show. 

1317
01:11:43,500 --> 01:11:49,200
Mobility, exercise. 
So like grabbed my dogs chew toy

1318
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,300
and have her run around in 
circles in the ground. 

1319
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:54,300
And I'm in my knee, I'm on my 
knees and so playing tug-of-war 

1320
01:11:54,300 --> 01:11:57,400
with her, but I'm also getting 
all my Mobility work done at the

1321
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:59,200
same time and stuff like that, 
you know? 

1322
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,100
Nice. 
Yeah, I love it. 

1323
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:03,000
I am, I love it. 
I know that that little more to 

1324
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:04,700
get big enough start working out
with me. 

1325
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,700
And then they, and then the just
finish answering your question. 

1326
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:12,700
Instagram is kind of our 
business card and my wife and I 

1327
01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:15,200
both run it. 
Together, so she sees everything

1328
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:17,900
that I see on it, especially 
because most of our clients are 

1329
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:21,400
females. 
So and then if there's something

1330
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:23,500
somebody has a question or 
something that like I'm 

1331
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:25,700
training, somebody doesn't have 
the opportunity to get back to 

1332
01:12:25,700 --> 01:12:27,100
you, then she can see it and 
grab it. 

1333
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:32,300
But that is at Colt Milton Co 
LTD a mi t-- o--, n-- awesome. 

1334
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:34,000
And I was certainly linking out 
to all those. 

1335
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,500
Make it easy for people to find.
Thank you. 

1336
01:12:36,508 --> 01:12:39,700
And your lovely wife. 
And yeah, man, just keep in 

1337
01:12:39,708 --> 01:12:41,300
touch, man. 
I'm always excited to see how 

1338
01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,300
what you got cooking, how the 
show preps are. 

1339
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,800
And what you're experimenting 
with, I love seeing you making 

1340
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,700
the gym equipment in the garage.
I mean, just like, all that 

1341
01:12:49,700 --> 01:12:51,300
stuff. 
So I'm keep doing what you're 

1342
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:52,700
doing. 
Keep fighting the good fight, 

1343
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:54,800
man. 
There's everything I can do hit 

1344
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,000
me up man. 
You know how to get ahold of me?

1345
01:12:56,800 --> 01:12:58,100
You're already got. 
The book map is. 

1346
01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:02,100
It's like I can just I can just 
go back and there it is. 

1347
01:13:02,100 --> 01:13:05,100
And and I mean I'm not even one 
of your clients and whenever 

1348
01:13:05,100 --> 01:13:09,400
I've sent an email or something,
I mean, you're always, you've 

1349
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,200
always been generous enough to 
send it back and you've just 

1350
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,700
given out so much. 
Free content over the years. 

1351
01:13:14,700 --> 01:13:16,800
It's like, how can I ever repay 
this to you, bro? 

1352
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:20,600
So thanks for no, dude. 
I mean, thanks for thanks for 

1353
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,900
not only the content and the 
teaching that you put out, but I

1354
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:31,200
don't think you realize the 
model of what Taylor and I are 

1355
01:13:31,208 --> 01:13:34,800
trying to accomplish in life and
how everything everything that 

1356
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,300
we believed were called to do 
to. 

1357
01:13:36,300 --> 01:13:40,500
Do I look at you and Crystal 
having grown up, even in the 

1358
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:42,800
state of Washington, I pour from
the same area. 

1359
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:47,600
And and, and what you guys have 
done with your lives, from 

1360
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,700
inventing, a product to creating
a brand. 

1361
01:13:49,700 --> 01:13:53,600
I'm like, man, that's that's 
that's us. 

1362
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,100
So thanks for just everything 
that you've done, man. 

1363
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:59,500
Yeah that means the world man 
truly that's my gratitude. 

1364
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,000
I'm excited. 
I mean that he's with you but 

1365
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,200
I'm not, I'm not really joking. 
I mean, we're going to share 

1366
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,200
stage someday man, so get ready 
for that? 

1367
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:11,000
No, we're not man. 
I'm sick of losing even get 

1368
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,100
mine. 
You can be run for that money, 

1369
01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:14,900
for sure. 
Occult man, always a pleasure, 

1370
01:14:14,900 --> 01:14:15,800
brother. 
You keep doing what you're 

1371
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,800
doing. 
Keep in touch for sure and we'll

1372
01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:19,900
talk to you soon, man. 
All right, love you man. 

1373
01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:20,900
Thanks again. 
See you bud.

