Well, hello there ladies and gents Roberts.
Thanks kiddo, Savage.com and today I have special repeat
guest, Brandon Scott back off for another in-depth
conversation. This time we talked about his
recent carb experiment. He's been keto carnivore for the
past several years and he spent the past several months kind of
playing around dabbling with carb seeing his body, and his
mind would respond to that. So, we dove into that I, which
was a great conversation. We also talked about hunting,
he's an avid Hunter as well. So we talked about hunting, we
talked about all kinds of things.
Talk about life. And I just got a lot of respect
for brain and he's a great guy. He's constantly putting out
positivity, good inspiring content, and I've got a whole
lot of appreciation for him. I'm glad he's a friend of mine,
I feel very fortunate to know him so well that for their do,
sit back, relax and enjoy the conversation with Brandon And
Brandon, good laugh. How are you, man?
I'll pretty good yourself, buddy.
I'm doing wonderfully. Well, wonderfully, well, this is
the second time you've been on the podcast.
The first time, we talked about, like, your intro.
We talking about carnivore. We talk about what got you into
the space. I kind of want to do a Brandon
2.0 version of the podcast that a man.
So what has been going on since the first episode So, when we
record last year, summertime, probably around the same time.
Yeah, I think so. I think it's probably been about
a year. Yeah, absolutely.
So let's see, since I stayed carnivore / ki do.
You know, mainly probably mainly more so carnivore than keto
very, very heavily meat-based diet and then in January, I
don't know. Something, something just told
me. Take a break from this and see
if going back to like, even low-carb, I call it because I
didn't go strict. I didn't go, completely
high-carb. I didn't flip completely.
I still kept, I still kept my carbs under like 100 grams a
day, so I was roughly 100 grams a day of carbs.
And of course I lowered my fat and I tried to make it work and
then a couple days into it I just found myself absolutely
ravenous and from Is to be 330 pounds and I used to have a
binging problem, like, I don't know.
As soon as I started to introduce cars, back in January,
my old habits, my mind went back to those habits like It wasn't
good for me, mentally and I stayed on this path for probably
two or three months. I was super active.
I was renovating my house for like eight hours a day on top of
work. So I wasn't really practicing
any diet per se. But but yeah, so it's it was
difficult because I would self-adjust if I to myself that.
It was okay to eat these certain things and it was okay to go
cheat, it was okay to do this and okay to do that and my sleep
was suffering and it just it everything doubt went, you know
downhill back into my old Habits Like I said, so I did that for
probably, I don't know, four or five months this year and I just
I stepped on the scale for the first time.
And I knew some of my clothes are a little tighter I gained
weight. Did not go to the gym at all
during the you know, coronavirus pandemic but I was running every
day so I think for me and my head I would self justify.
All right. Well you're running man, you'll
be fine. Your clothes are a little tight,
whatever, blah, blah, blah. So so like going back I jumped
on the scale and I looked at it on like, holy crap, dude.
You've gained like 17 pounds and I was like, nope, can't do this
anymore. So I mean weight, Ation for me,
as been a normal for my entire life.
So, anyway, it was like a big wake-up call and I was like,
dude, just go back to what, you know, works for you.
And that's Quito. And I'm not even going to say
carnivore because yes, um, you know, I eat a lot of protein.
I'm animal based on all my protein, but I'm not gonna, I
can't, I think, I think the time I did carnivore was good, but I
can't be that strict anymore. I need some leeway.
Like, I've been eating vegetables, not every day, not,
you know, not at every meal but if they're, they're like, I'll
eat them. I'm not going to say, oh no,
they're so bad for you, you know?
So yeah, that's basically where I'm at now, back to Quito.
So but yeah, that's about it. Want to dive into a lot of like,
the, the mindset in Psychology around food because I feel like
that's I feel like that makes sense in the context in the
realm of this conversation. And I feel like you've got a
really good pulse on, you know, your thoughts towards it all.
Since it all happened, pretty recently like I haven't had
carbs in that. Can you tell long?
So I don't even know where my body would respond or how my
mind would respond. So I'm kind of curious to pick
your brain just so I can take advantage of your experiment
instead of having to do it myself, right?
So what what made you want to, you know, reintroduce, the
carbohydrates back in like, what was the nagging thing?
The back, your mind justifying doing that and just Vince, you
need to give it a shot. Sure.
So I'm going to open a can of worms here because it goes back
to Instagram and social media in the pressures and the ever, the
evolution of diet and everybody's perspective and
certain people that I follow and, you know, you want to be
like, okay, well if it's okay for them, it's okay for me.
I'm going to go, I'm going to go ahead and try and I think a lot
of it had to do with that. I'm not saying that I follow.
In mimic or do what other people do.
Because I'm a big proponent of doing what works best for you
and I respect that so, but I think it was okay.
I've been doing this for like two years.
Is it okay? If I reintroduce it like, is it,
you know, how am I going to react?
And once I started, it was like I said, a down hill battle for
me for my, you know, Maya did my previous addiction that I had
beat going Quito. Did you notice any, any benefit,
like, was there any positive that came from its apart, from
just a perspective but like any kind of physiological positive
like better, better pumps, better workouts, more energy
than that. No, no.
Well, I honestly, I can't, I can't say that I did notice
anything extra. Like I said, I mean we were I
was running every day. Some days majority of my days
are just a mile for the month of August I are now.
I'm sorry, July. I ran 100 miles total and I was
carved fueled then. Just did, I had plenty of
energy? I'm not saying, you know, like
it helped it helped enhance in any way shape or form.
Absolutely not. It's for me.
It was my body's reaction to the carbohydrates in my brain
saying, okay, just like putting up, you know, filling up your
gas tank, once you deplete it, you want more, right?
So I would get that feeling of dude, you're hungry again.
Does this what out of whack signals and I would go eat and
Was eaten, six, seven, eight times a day and snacking and you
know, back to me back to my old ways.
So totally totally. This is interesting meat man
because like, you know, I'm definitely painted in the people
have painted me in the picture of Robert Sykes.
Chios have he's a super strict, keto guy super like hardcore
disciplined about that. He didn't want anybody in carbs
or anything like that and that's that's not the case at all.
I don't want anybody to think that about me.
I mean, that's what I do, but I don't pass judgment.
Went on other people based off of what they did and I think the
fact that you you know had this curiosity at the back of your
head you know, knocking and you experimented with it and then
have come out of it with just tenfold, more self-awareness.
I feel like that is incredibly powerful.
Like to me, it's better for you to have done, you know, keto
carnivore for two years and then if you're still wanting to like
experiment and figure out how carbs affect you, I The are
better off for having done, that trial, period, seen how it
affect you, physically, and mentally.
And now you just know, like, there's no more question,
there's no more nagging. What if in the back your mind?
Like you just know and your degree of self-awareness is
Amplified and significantly. That's right.
So yeah, and yeah, no, go ahead. No, your go ahead.
So, like for me, you know, I want everybody to be able to
know that. I feel like there's a lot of
people in the space right now. Both just Individuals and also
influencers, coaches, you know, gurus that they don't have
enough self-awareness to know where they stand on a certain
things. So, they'll just move on to
whatever is the hype at the moment.
Yeah. I know it's human nature and,
you know, like, I don't sure all them for that like everybody
wants to figure out who they are and I mean, that's the way you
do it. You figure out who you are by
experimenting and seeing what sticks and what doesn't however
you can't really Of this, fake it till you make it approach and
experimenting, and paint yourself as like, the expert in
that given topic. And then the next month, be
preaching an entirely different message because then you're just
confusing everybody's listening to you.
Absolutely. So for you, I'm just going off
of that tribe right now. So, forgive me.
But for you like, what, what do you want to do?
Going for like, who is Brandon Scott now, having done
everything you've done in the past lost all that weight, you
know, been in the keto space for Long as you have done this
experiment, come out of it. Like like, where do you, where
you at now? What are you excited about?
I am on a straight path of staying ketogenic.
There's no way in heck. You can ever tell me to to tell
me that carbs are okay for everybody.
So, you know, it's like you said, / everybody differs and
like that is my main goal. Now for me, personally, for my
mindset, for my head for where I need to be, it's going to be
ketogenic now. I'm not going to stress over
protein intake. Like, if I go over on my
protein, fine, big deal, like the whole, you know, extra
protein knock shot of ketosis, whatever it do.
I check my ketones. Nope.
I haven't even checked them in the past month that I've been,
you know, back to Quito. I can I can physically tell how
I feel and when I'm in it and it's almost like a
self-awareness thing, like you said, But for me, yep, I will
probably never ever ever go back to any high amount of carbs
ever. It's just it works for me.
It keeps my head focused. It keeps me motivated.
I know, I don't want to be the person that I was and I slept
like, I slowly started to slip back into being a jerk and
having an attitude all the time. And I could directly see how it
affected my my well-being. So, I don't want to be that guy
anymore. I want to be uplifting.
I want to be in Jeddak, I want to have enough energy throughout
the day and being in ketosis man.
Burning fat for fuel is the way to go 100%.
Well, I'm on the same page for sure.
Yeah, a lot of people think that if you like have this
elimination approach to certain food groups and that you paint
certain foods is being, you know, quote unquote, bad, that
is just a weakness on your part. Like you should be able to have
moderation, you should be able to incorporate everything and
then be stronger than that burning desire.
So like like that's definitely one arguments, that's what one
side of the spectrum, you know, suggest for sure.
But like, in that context, what is your response to that?
Like how do you, you know, wrap that around your brain and take
that and go forward with it? So when you see people saying
that you say I take a step back and I look at them and I look at
their their past and I look at their physique and I look at
what they're about as a person, right?
And if somebody in He says, oh, you know, you you can have
everything just be, you know, be cognizant of what you're eating
and you're able to cheat near able to do this.
Well, you're telling that to a broad audience, right?
You're not saying to that one individual that's you know, 3
400 pounds. He's had an eating issue their
entire life when you have it. So to listen to people say that
drives me absolutely nuts because one like, they don't
know what We're going through or what we've been through, they
don't know, food addiction in sometimes, they might so, you
know, but nine out of ten times, let's be real.
They don't, they've always been concerned with their physique,
they've always looked good. They don't have any loose skin.
You can just tell man. And so I don't ever listen to
that person because I know what works best for me, but a lot of
people do. Yeah, it's funny because like, I
know, I know a lot of different people in a lot of different
types of people that have gone through very different paths and
Look at my dad, for instance, in my dad is, you know, almost 62
years old. He's in shape, it looks great.
He's like hustling pouring concrete next week and I mean,
he's freaking, he's a super smart guy.
He's like a, he's a, he's killing it.
But he doesn't know what a bicep curl is.
He didn't notice Squad as he didn't care about that aspect of
Fitness. He's very physically fit from
like, you know, working and living on land, right.
He doesn't care about, you know, physical fitness in the sense of
looking good aesthetically. Etc.
He's never understood my
bodybuilding goals and Endeavors.
He appreciates and respects it now, but it took him a long time
to figure out what the heck I was doing my life and our food.
Like he's never been overweight, he he doesn't understand you
know, food addiction he doesn't get it like it's just not even
it does not compute in his brain and but you know you try to
explain these things to somebody that's never gone that route,
you know, he can moderate, whatever he can have super you
know, high quality. Grass-grown whatever.
And then a piece of cheesecake at the end of it and not think
twice about it, you know. And his body was just a healthy
and in shape and he'll live to see another day but for people
that have struggle with food have you know gone through a
binging and purging Cycles like it's you can't even relate and
for like somebody like my dad who can handle that and moderate
it, you know, and be fine more power to him, you know, it's not
my place to say you should eat a certain way like if it's working
for You can be happy and healthy with it.
You don't have these crazy nagging thoughts in your brain,
then more power to keep doing what you're doing.
It's working. But I don't think they have the
platform have the right have the ability to credibility to tell
people that have gone through, you know, various binging and
purging Cycles, how they should eat.
Absolutely. Yeah.
I made in another thing, it's like they preached the same diet
to the masses and it's your typical high.
Have low fat diet because of you, we all know that fat makes
you fat, right? So, but it's that just drives me
nuts, especially when they're not open to other diets and
seeing what might work for one of your clients or what might
not work. So, yeah, I hear you, man.
It's tough. It's tough for sure.
It is. It is I think I don't know man.
Like from a physiological standpoint, I don't feel like
there's any inherent benefit to car.
Like you can definitely use carbs, you can get away with
eating carbs based off of your, you know, how efficient your
metabolism is, what your lean muscle mass is, I mean, I could
eat carbs and get away with it but I try and look at everything
in life to the context and through the lens of.
Do I really want to live life on terms of what I can get away
with? Or do I want to live my life in
terms of what I can optimize for?
And when I think of it through that lens they're just not
really point. Like I can't really justify
eating a bunch of cars because I just don't see Any benefit to
it, you know, whether that's physiological or psychological.
Absolutely. So, so this going back now you
said that, it triggered my thoughts on my running back in
July. Like I said, I ran 100 miles in
July and I was I want to, I was sluggish, my times were a lot
slower. Granted, I was running over
three miles a day, so it's kind of taxing, but my miles were a
lot slower. When I was eating carbs because
Just didn't feel as good. Now the past two weeks may have
my ties have been going up. My runs have been feeling
awesome like I have sustained energy through hyper thing.
I crashed at the end of my run. So again optimizing, what does
your body runs best on at total of him?
Yep. All right, so you're doing,
you're doing like a one mile a day for the whole every day of
the year, right? And that wouldn't that the
river? Yep, that's it.
But I have I have not missed a day yet.
I haven't eaten, man. I haven't I didn't even do.
This, because you've done it, but I have not nothing today.
Either I started running when I did my contest prep because the
gym clothes and all the stereo masters were gone.
Yeah, I switched over to running and then I just fell in love
with it. So I committed to basically at
least running a mile, it's usually about one point three to
two miles somewhere in that window but yeah, I'm sure that's
the Run since I don't know, December something of last year,
dude, that is awesome. That is so awesome.
Now I'm up to think like 460 some miles for this year so far.
So do you use like a certain app for tracking that?
Yeah I use Nike running club. Do you like it?
No, it's not bad. The only reason I got all this
is David Webb was on it and he was like dude you know hit me up
will be friends on there and so bad.
Just I haven't used anything else because I was so used to
it. Nice I'm at the play around with
that and I've tried a bunch of different ones like they have
tried. Not sins of that's for food.
What's it called? Strava I've seen travel yeah and
It's I like it. I think that's one of the gold
standards in the running app market but I feel like half the
time. It totally.
Miss long's my run like it. I'll be running for 30 minutes.
Do some long distance run and I'll look at it in a bit like
you've run for two minutes and have made point three mile
progress or something like that. Oh no frustrates.
Me might I can there's a bike trail up the road from me.
It's like six miles and it is nothing but twists and turns and
it is the GPS on that. Spot on it.
It'll track the entire thing. I've never had an issue.
Nice, I think that's been my issue, because I do a bunch of
off-road trail running on bike trails, and I feel like that's
where it really messes up. The GPS, I'm going to switch
over and give that Nike run a try.
There you go. Do you have any kind of like
nagging pain in your joints at all, ankles knees in that that
from running? So consistently nice not
anymore. I did at the beginning of the
year. Pretty consistent, outer right,
knee pain. But I just I just I cuz I would
I'm like one of those guys that takes something to the extreme.
So I was running like a 5k Every Single Day at the beginning of
the year, and I was like all right dude, your goal was one
mile. Let's bring it back.
Let's, let's give your body a little bit of a break.
And then once I, you know, did one mile only for a couple of
weeks my knee pain went away. Otherwise, man.
I don't have any dog pain at all.
Nice. So, did you like, what kind of
shoes you running in a? You do any kind of specific
shoes? Yeah.
I'm running in the Brooks and ghost ghost 12s right now.
Best she's ever that I've had, I do like the the Brooks.
I just got a pair of Brooks that were the she, what's the other?
What's the other Brooks model? You know, I do, it's Brooke shoe
but that's been pretty good. I've got a really bad over
pronated Feats. Like I got jacked up feet but
the Brooks do pretty well for me for sure.
Gotcha, good deal. We'll talk about hunting man.
You and I are both big Hunters almost about the hunting season.
Have you been shooting the bow as consistently as you've been
running? Know.
That is a big - no bo Mi. Nah know.
I don't know, man. It's I don't know, my my focus
here. Slater's been on rifles and
doing some long range shooting and and yeah so that and I got
into some suppressor action, where I've got a suppressor for
a couple of my rifles now. So we've been coyote hunting at
night with thermal optics. So that's been that's been my
focus this summer, but most seasoned right around the
corner. So, I need to get on it, man.
Let's talk about this for a second.
So you're doing suppressor on the coyote hunts, and because it
could, you can't you just Oppressor during deer season,
right? It's only for Cody's know, you
can use it, at least in Virginia, we can use them.
Wow, I didn't know that. Is that, that down the volume
pretty, pretty good. Oh yeah, they're well, it just
depends on your round because you have, you have a supersonic
Rouse, then you have subsonic rounds depending on which
caliber and once you put a subsonic round in a suppressor,
it's it's whisper quiet. You probably, you could probably
shoot it inside of your shop and nobody would ever know that you
shot it. Side.
So what are you shooting? 300 Blackout?
Nice. Nice, what kind of scope you?
I don't know. I think it's a Aslan.
Aslan Talos. You like it?
Oh yeah, I love it. Love it.
That's but that's all my day scope.
I have a pulsar Apex thermal on my coyote rifle which is a 6.5
grundle. That's that's an awesome around.
By the way, if you get into bars any more than you are Yeah, I've
got, I've got an A Yarn I love that.
I'd use it mostly just for plinking around the farm.
The like, I'll take it that when we go, you know, looking for
paper and whatnot. But I have not done an official
coyote hunts like I've have killed Cody but I've never like
done the full-blown. You know have like a predator
call out. Go out there with thermals like
that. That sounds like a ball game.
Dude, that is so much fun, so much fun because the thermal at
night you're completely blacked out.
Like, you don't as long as long as you play the wind, you're on
the mend and they don't see you but you can see them through
that thermal scope and it's Lights Out.
It's it's pretty fun. Well, I could be using thermals
for the wild hog so I thought about getting them for that.
Yes, you know. So that will be that'd be sweet
man because our farm is just riddled with with feral pigs.
I feel like having a thermal and being able to take advantage of
them moving Night would be the way to go.
There, we could have a blast mittai.
I'll fly out there and I'll just bring the rifle with me.
We can have some fun. Do it, man, do it.
All right, Arkansas deer. Season is super long.
You can kill like 60 in Arkansas, which is crazy.
That's a lot more than most States.
But you know, the Pig season here is year-round because we're
just overridden by him. So yeah, man, let's make a trip
out of it. Will have the I'm trying to get
like a little get-together going with the select few group of
people come out to the farm. You know, Danny Vegas is
definitely in atoms, in I guess you're right now and we'll just
all go out there and be freaking Savage is out in the woods man.
Dude, that would be awesome and like, yeah, so if anybody else
has a thermal, that would be even better, because two
Shooters are better than one. That's for sure.
Two Shooters have been in, I'll get in the thermal Dot from my
bow and I'll just go through with the bow.
Hey, they hey, you could easily do that with a, they make a
thermal monocular that you could attach to you like a helmet.
Really do like some somebody. Yeah.
So you can do some Black Ops like looking through your optic.
Get the hog at the same time. They were very sweet.
I'll be down. I didn't know.
They even had those. It's getting kind of crazy to
take man like I'm all about traditional hunting where you go
out there like as far as going out there like a old-school. 50
caliber Muzzleloader and freaking Buckskin leggings and
now you got monocular thermal, optics, copes, and all kinds of
crazy stuff. It's it's a huge Market though,
man. Like And thermal optics are not
cheap. Like yeah, if you, you gotta buy
it, you're going to cry for that day and then you, then you're
going to have some fun. Well, those are the kind of
Optics. I mean, is it All Battery
pattern or how they get that set up?
Yeah, it's battery-powered. You takes the cr123 batteries,
some of them have an external battery packs, but they last, I
think the batteries last about three, to four hours of run
time. And then, once once I'm hog
hunting, I just, I run an external battery pack.
That way, I can run it. All night long and not have to
worry about it. Nice.
Do you still use your your air
rifle for all the close range? Dear, you're shooting?
No, no, I got rid of it, man. I guess I got ya, I got out of
the air rifle business. Well I was using it here at the
house for these local deer, but they ended up tearing all the
woods out beside the house and building a horse farm.
So I didn't I didn't feel like I should shoot that rifle that
direction anymore. So, that's the word if, uh,
yeah. If I go out into the woods to
hunt a deer, I'm A real goes so morbo.
You still out about hunting, right?
Oh yeah, yeah, I do it all. So nice.
I'm gonna try and make cuz I got I got kind of into bowhunting
last year when I went on that hunt in Washington and I'm just
been freaking hooked man. Like I've been shooting every
day and I feel like for me like I've got this Bulldog
personality in which if there's something that I can
consistently do every single day, whether it be running a
mile, hit my macros or shooting the bow, like that's what I'm
gonna do and I feel like that is just it's like therapy for me.
Yeah, absolutely, I hear you man.
I took I think six or seven on my rifles out to a buddy's farm
this past weekend and just took an hour or two to shoot and it's
like you get. So it's such a relaxing.
Like rewarding thing, seeing that bullet, hit the paper where
you wanted to hit, you know, then you just Envision like the
reward. You're going to get from when
you kill a deer or a hog or whatever and then, you know,
take it home and eat it. There's no better feeling ever.
So you get Venison left in the freezer Stiller?
No. I do actually, we're able to
kill six deer, just like you. And then, we can also buy six,
more do tags if you would like. And then in where I live, we
have Urban archery where the season basically lasts from
September 5th through the end of March.
So then we have season. The deer is the deer here in
this urban area is out of control man there.
Every every day when I'm My way out of the neighborhood.
There's a dead deer laying there.
Like, it's ridiculous. It's crazy, man.
So my shooting as well. Yeah.
But it's so crazy. Yeah.
Yeah, it was a vehicle, you know, it's a lot more useful.
Absolutely. Gotta people people don't like
us hunting either. It's just drives me nuts.
Like you're going to hit this deal with your car or I'm going
to hit it with an arrow. I'm going to take it home and
eat it and feed my family. Like, what do you want?
Yeah, we can mean, there'd be a whole podcast episode in just
imagine the frustration among the people that are against
hunting anti-hunting. But again I don't want to you
know I don't want to pay anybody else like if you don't want to
hunt by all means don't hide. But if but you know you don't
want to hunt and you're eating meat and then you're going to
pass judgment on hon. Is that a respectable hunters
and there's probably something loose upstairs if you want to
mean. And then we can tie that back to
food and nutrition. To everybody is so disconnected
from that type of life that they're so easily.
Swayed by food commercials and go into the food line or the
grocery store and buying a bunch of crap to eat.
Like they don't know what real food is like there's no there's
no connection there but yeah that we could talk about that
all day long 100% man. I've been I'm trying to make
room in my freezer right now. I've got A little bit of venison
hanging out still. So I've been eating backstrap, I
said my bank strap for the for the end for whatever reason, but
I've been eating back strap and tenderloin every single day for
the past, like two weeks from today until last year.
And it's amazing man. I've been, I'll get the Primal
Kitchen, caesar salad dressing. I tried this last night.
I got the Primal Kitchen, caesar, salad, dressing, and
then just marinated in that, and then threw it on the Trager.
And that was like the bomb diggity man.
Yeah, that sounds freaking amazing.
How long do you cook it on the trigger?
I've been doing just like a reverse sear, so I'll put it on
225 degrees and then I'll put the temperature probe in there
and then I'll let it cook until it reaches about 110.
I'll take it off. I'll crank it up to 500 Degrees
and then soon as it gets up to Temp, I'll just put it back on
the grill and sear it for about 22 minutes, each side or so that
usually does the trick. Nice gosh, my mouth is watering
now. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna freaking
love it, man. There's I made a post, he had a
there's something about like, eating food that you've killed
and like, The flavor like it's marinated in the memories, man.
It's marinated in the memories of what it took to get that food
and put it on the plate. And that's, I mean, you can't
buy that in the superstore. You can't.
No, no, you can't. By the time you spent out in the
woods, you can't buy that connection.
You can't buy it at all. It's priceless priceless for
sure. 100% ma'am. So I'm curious now that you're
full fledged back into the keto carnivore, which I want to pick
your brain about that, too, with regard to what?
It earlier, you know, you're not hard core you know ride-or-die
carnivores so much as you are. Just keto, not really worried
about that protein amount which I think is 100% the way to go
about it. Like I think having periods of
time where you're strict, carnivore can be great, it's
like great elimination of Pros to just re establish a baseline
but I feel like it's it's not sustainable for most people.
I mean most people want a little bit of vegetation that one of
the salad every once in a while and they shouldn't feel guilty
for eating, you know. Absolutely.
And I started to feel that way a lot because, you know, my name
on Instagram is Quito carnivore King and I just, I so two years
ago, I changed my name to that just for myself because I
didn't, I wanted some accountability and I was keto,
but more animal-based like heavy heavy meat consumption because
I'm a Hunter. So it naturally just fit and the
name. Sounded cool.
Don't, I won't be honest with you, right?
But so I did one month of A carnivore lost a bunch of
weight. You know, naturally you're going
to lose a bunch of weight and I just I got wrapped up in the
whole carnivore stuff and it eventually led me to even
binging on keto stuff like hito treats and snacks.
And like, although I could stop Justified to myself of this is
still keto, but then go binge on it.
So now, now that I'm saying, I'm not strict carnivore.
I'm back to Quito is that has allowed me to enjoy the, you
know, quote keto treats and you know, still good, you know, good
food and it not bother me psychologically like it doesn't
mess with my head, I can easily go, you know, enjoy something
that's, you know, sugar free and not feel bad about it, 100% man.
I mean, yeah. I feel like everything in the,
in the space kind of goes in waves, like, there's certain
things that are hyped up at sir. Times.
And for a while, it seemed that the past five or six months or
so, it's just been about, you know, carnivore and
anti-nutrients in plants and like when you pair those
together, it's like you just go away on one end of the spectrum
of the other. So like you want to be carnivore
because there's just so much nutrient density and organ
meats, and meat and etcetera, Etc.
But then, like you start painting, you know, any form of
vegetation in a negative light and it's like almost like you,
you're freaking criminal if you have a salad, you know.
You just a weird way to think about things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I had one guy message me on Instagram.
He's like, I can't believe you eat those.
Keto bricks there there, plant-based protein, and I'm
like, dude, it doesn't bother me whatsoever and they're freaking
delicious. Like, what is, what is it
matter? What I do?
Yeah, you know, like, like, if you don't like plant-based
stuff, then don't eat it. Like, that's all on you, but
just just because I'm doing it, doesn't mean I'm doing.
Wrong and do die. You will not believe the amount
of messages you probably do. I don't you?
Probably get the same crap. I've gotten over the past years
but you just always deal with the haters and people that think
that their way is the only way. So yeah, it's frustrated man.
Like when you especially when you own a business, you start
putting stuff out there, you know, you put content out there
for people to take and do with it as they will.
And yeah, it's not been as bad lately but when Krystal and I
first started the key to break business and we were putting
out, you know, the launches and everything we would sell out in
just a matter of minutes. We got so much shit, man.
People would be just hating on us for.
Not making more not having the money to make more, not being
good business people. It's like, you just hate on us
and I mean, we would stay up all night long, you know, days on
end, making these things just to be met with hate and it was like
incredibly disheartening like there's a couple tear-filled
nights for sure. And it's like, I got thick skin
pretty quick. There and then it's like, you
know what, I know what my intentions are, I know what I
stand for. I know why I'm doing what I'm
doing, I have that self-awareness, I'm going to
keep doing what I'm doing because I believe in and if
anybody wants to talk shit on that then let them but I have no
respect for them in the first place.
So anything they say it's like it's like I don't care like if I
don't respect them, if they're like some random you know handle
on Instagram that was probably made just to be a troll.
Then yeah. Get out of my life bro.
Yeah. Get out of my Business.
And it the crazy thing to me is like, if I see somebody that's
starting a business or doing something like that and they
sell out and I didn't get one, I'm going to be like, hell yeah,
I'm happy for you. Keep on doing what you're doing
because it's working and you're progressing, your make your
getting bigger, right? And that's what you did.
So people that hate like that don't have any respect for
themselves. So plain and simple.
That's all that is you gotta act like you don't want to judge but
the same time you gotta like hear what they're saying and be
like, they're probably Coming from a very negative Place
internally and they feel the need to lash out, like, I don't
know. The last time I watched a
YouTube video and felt compelled to write a negative comment,
like I don't right - what's the point?
Yeah. What's the point?
So there's none if they're gonna do that.
They're probably just coming from a negative place in the
first place. And you know me, lashing back at
Adams, not going to get anything accomplished.
I honestly, just feel sorry for him.
Yeah, just ignore the haters and move on 100% man.
So, what's next for you? What's in the pipeline, what are
you excited about? What excited about with regard
to the keto space as a whole like where you see it?
Going? Where do you see you fitting
into it all? Just kind of pitch.
Some ideas my way man, I'm curious.
Um I don't know, man. I so with the whole diet break
the key, you know, keto break, I kind of took a step back from
social media as well, naturally, right, because I'm not on there
for some particular reason I still posted like once a week or
once a month or whatever, but, going back and changing my name.
I promise to myself, that I would not get wrapped up in any
drama. I would not get wrapped up in in
any one person's choice and try to, you know, sway me in any
direction like it did. And just to be myself and not
consume like dude, if you were to look to my activity level and
Instagram, holy crap is like 45 hours a day.
No, I'm not even I'm not gonna be honest with you and now you
can go to my thing and it's maybe like 35 minutes a day.
It consumed me. So I still want to be in the
space and the reason for that is accountability for myself
mainly, but to also show others that it's okay to screw up or
not even screw up but to to figure things out for themselves
and to figure out what works best for them.
I constantly have, you know, messages daily say, hey man, we
missed you. Like we appreciate your posts
and your honesty and your humility and like, just keep on
being you because I've lost 100 pounds.
Pounds because of you because I found your account.
So for just just hearing that keeps me motivated with the
space and just moving forward with Instagram.
So so Facebook and Instagram are participant completely opposite.
You know, I keep Facebook private and Instagram is open so
I just don't I want to be able to share my personal experiences
with everybody on Instagram so they can not just so much to
learn. From it but to to you know, just
to keep on inspiring people to. It's okay to mess up and be
yourself and just figure out what works best for you.
So 100% managed it's funny because like all try and just
observe the community that space and just see where things are
going so that I can do, you know, be strategic as a business
owner but also just so I can hopefully offer some value where
I see where people's interests lie.
But yeah, it's it's it can be very consuming if you let it for
sure. I mean, there's so much drama
and there's so much drama around nutrition and it's honestly just
amazes me like people get. So, you know, uptight about what
people are eating and this, you know, like, I'll see something
on Twitter to the worst. You don't want to go on Twitter.
It's a blank though. But I'll see people like in the
flexible dieting, you know, If It Fits your Macros space, just
totally lashing out about all these, you know, quote, unquote,
keto zealots, that's what they call us.
Yeah and there are some key toes out.
There's some there's some za It's out there that are very
dogmatic in their thinking and they just don't they don't think
but that is not the whole and I see stories like what you
described as people having lost 100 pounds because they're
inspired by something that, you know, you put out, I put out
somebody put out and slike, you hear messages like that and you
can't help but feel good about the community that you're in and
that you're a part of and right, that's what 100% keeps me doing
what I'm doing. And I feel like we're better
off, you know, for the stuff we put out for those people like
that's the snow. Those are people that were doing
this for. Sure.
Absolutely. I love it.
Yeah, I yeah, I think I think for myself it's like I'm
obviously completely honest when I took the whole Instagram
break, like I didn't care what I ate like and that was it was bad
for me. I'm not saying Instagram runs in
my life and in regards to my diet, but it definitely helps
man, because you it's the community, the people that care
about their health. And you see that and people That
name you just like so what if so and so wants to have this to
eat, like if I don't agree with it, I'm not going to go say
something, but I'm sure it's not going to respect you.
And I'm going to put, you know, be uplifting in any way that I
can like, dude, I don't think I've said a negative word on
Instagram ever like, yeah, like we're all in this together and
to be in this space, you know, to, to better our health as a
whole like that helps big time. And I know not only for myself
but a lot of other people. 100%, man.
I mean, I've known you for a couple years now, but like I've
liked the way you've structured your content creation, just the
person you are and the stuff you're putting out because it's
never coming from a place of negativity.
It's always just, you know positive it's always inspiring.
It's always coming from a good place and I feel like if
everybody just did that then obviously the world would be a
better place. You're doing it right?
You know what you're doing? I appreciate that, man.
You very much to say likewise for you buddy because and we can
do this either earn our time. But when I first started, I
David, I look back at you with out of the truck and I said,
dude, your videos are what got me started and your videos on
YouTube of you documenting your journey and how this works, and
how that works. And, you know, my basic keto
understanding came from you and go to Beats.
And this past month, I was like all right, dude, you're going
back keto because you know what it works and the first thing I
did was I got up on the TV and I searched in Quito Savage and I
went back three like 23 years of videos and just started watching
them one night. Like now that was it and it got
me, it got me pumped again and got me ready to freaking hit it,
you know, hard and just got my mind where it needed to be
stopped. Oh, I appreciate.
Appreciate you. And No respect, big time.
Yeah, Nana. That means the world, like I'm
not the smartest guy out there by any means.
There's a lot of doctors and scientists and medical
researchers at know, a heck of a lot more than me, but I want to
be known as the guy that has, you know, stood by the same
message and, you know, grown in that message like learn and
adapt it and improved upon it. But basically has been preaching
the same message for years and years and years, and can be
looked at as just that consistent disciplined.
Rock that doesn't budge, you know, people go back and forth
on things and that's fine. You know, everybody's got to
find their path, but I was fortunate enough to have found
my path early. Like, I screwed up, I screwed up
my health, I screwed up my business, I screwed up my
nutrition screwed up everything and I screwed up very, very
early, and when I figured it out when I fixed it, you know, I
knew that I was on the right path and I have not wavered from
that path since then, because I just knew, like, I had 100%
self-awareness. And I've since then, Not all the
content that I have and will continue to put out the content
I have and I'll be putting out the same type of content when
I'm 89 years old and I hope people can just see that and be
inspired by that and know that what I preach is true and then I
believe in it and I feel like if you can get something out of
that, and then my job is done. Absolutely a man.
And if it just reaches that one person, that's all it matters,
that's one better person. You know, 100% ready.
Well shoot man you and I can sit here and talk all day long but
I'll let you get back to doing what you're doing.
I'm about to throw, some venison on the grill.
I do, I do want to get like a hunk a something more extreme
though. For sure.
So, stay on the line here after we get done with recording this
podcast, and let's get some dates on the calendar, man,
awesome. And appreciate you.
Having me on buddy. Thank you soon.
Well, for anybody who doesn't know, you are hasn't followed
you in the past. What is your current Instagram
handle and what can they find you?
It seems that bag buddy. It, sceeto.com navour, dot king.
So on Instagram. Yep, that's it.
Awesome. Well, Brandon likes a man.
Keep doing what you doing, you doing it, right?
Appreciate you brother, and it's definitely keep in touch.
Yes, sir, thank you. See ma'am.