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Well, hello there ladies and 
gents Roberts. 

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Thanks kiddo, Savage.com and 
today I have special repeat 

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guest, Brandon Scott back off 
for another in-depth 

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conversation. 
This time we talked about his 

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recent carb experiment. 
He's been keto carnivore for the

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past several years and he spent 
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playing around dabbling with 
carb seeing his body, and his 

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mind would respond to that. 
So, we dove into that I, which 

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was a great conversation. 
We also talked about hunting, 

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he's an avid Hunter as well. 
So we talked about hunting, we 

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talked about all kinds of 
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Talk about life. 
And I just got a lot of respect 

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for brain and he's a great guy. 
He's constantly putting out 

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positivity, good inspiring 
content, and I've got a whole 

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lot of appreciation for him. 
I'm glad he's a friend of mine, 

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I feel very fortunate to know 
him so well that for their do, 

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sit back, relax and enjoy the 
conversation with Brandon And 

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Brandon, good laugh. 
How are you, man? 

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I'll pretty good yourself, 
buddy. 

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I'm doing wonderfully. 
Well, wonderfully, well, this is

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the second time you've been on 
the podcast. 

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The first time, we talked about,
like, your intro. 

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We talking about carnivore. 
We talk about what got you into 

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the space. 
I kind of want to do a Brandon 

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2.0 version of the podcast that 
a man. 

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So what has been going on since 
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record last year, summertime, 
probably around the same time. 

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Yeah, I think so. 
I think it's probably been about

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a year. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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So let's see, since I stayed 
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You know, mainly probably mainly
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very, very heavily meat-based 
diet and then in January, I 

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don't know. 
Something, something just told 

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me. 
Take a break from this and see 

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if going back to like, even 
low-carb, I call it because I 

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didn't go strict. 
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high-carb. 
I didn't flip completely. 

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I still kept, I still kept my 
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day, so I was roughly 100 grams 
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And of course I lowered my fat 
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then a couple days into it I 
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ravenous and from Is to be 330 
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binging problem, like, I don't 
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As soon as I started to 
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my old habits, my mind went back
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good for me, mentally and I 
stayed on this path for probably

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two or three months. 
I was super active. 

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I was renovating my house for 
like eight hours a day on top of

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work. 
So I wasn't really practicing 

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any diet per se. 
But but yeah, so it's it was 

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difficult because I would 
self-adjust if I to myself that.

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It was okay to eat these certain
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cheat, it was okay to do this 
and okay to do that and my sleep

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was suffering and it just it 
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downhill back into my old Habits
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probably, I don't know, four or 
five months this year and I just

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I stepped on the scale for the 
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And I knew some of my clothes 
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weight. 
Did not go to the gym at all 

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during the you know, coronavirus
pandemic but I was running every

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day so I think for me and my 
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All right. 
Well you're running man, you'll 

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be fine. 
Your clothes are a little tight,

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whatever, blah, blah, blah. 
So so like going back I jumped 

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on the scale and I looked at it 
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You've gained like 17 pounds and
I was like, nope, can't do this 

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anymore. 
So I mean weight, Ation for me, 

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as been a normal for my entire 
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So, anyway, it was like a big 
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dude, just go back to what, you 
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And that's Quito. 
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carnivore because yes, um, you 
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I'm animal based on all my 
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can't, I think, I think the time
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can't be that strict anymore. 
I need some leeway. 

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Like, I've been eating 
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you know, not at every meal but 
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eat them. 
I'm not going to say, oh no, 

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they're so bad for you, you 
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So yeah, that's basically where 
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So but yeah, that's about it. 
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the, the mindset in Psychology 
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that's I feel like that makes 
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realm of this conversation. 
And I feel like you've got a 

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really good pulse on, you know, 
your thoughts towards it all. 

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Since it all happened, pretty 
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carbs in that. 
Can you tell long? 

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So I don't even know where my 
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mind would respond. 
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your brain just so I can take 
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instead of having to do it 
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So what what made you want to, 
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carbohydrates back in like, what
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The back, your mind justifying 
doing that and just Vince, you 

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need to give it a shot. 
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So I'm going to open a can of 
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to Instagram and social media in
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evolution of diet and 
everybody's perspective and 

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certain people that I follow 
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like, okay, well if it's okay 
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I'm going to go, I'm going to go
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of it had to do with that. 
I'm not saying that I follow. 

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In mimic or do what other people
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Because I'm a big proponent of 
doing what works best for you 

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and I respect that so, but I 
think it was okay. 

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I've been doing this for like 
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Is it okay? 
If I reintroduce it like, is it,

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you know, how am I going to 
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And once I started, it was like 
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me for my, you know, Maya did my
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beat going Quito. 
Did you notice any, any benefit,

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like, was there any positive 
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just a perspective but like any 
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like better, better pumps, 
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than that. 
No, no. 

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Well, I honestly, I can't, I 
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anything extra. 
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was running every day. 
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are just a mile for the month of
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I'm sorry, July. 
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carved fueled then. 
Just did, I had plenty of 

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energy? 
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it helped it helped enhance in 
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Absolutely not. 
It's for me. 

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It was my body's reaction to the
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saying, okay, just like putting 
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gas tank, once you deplete it, 
you want more, right? 

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So I would get that feeling of 
dude, you're hungry again. 

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Does this what out of whack 
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Was eaten, six, seven, eight 
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know, back to me back to my old 
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So totally totally. 
This is interesting meat man 

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because like, you know, I'm 
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have painted me in the picture 
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Chios have he's a super strict, 
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disciplined about that. 
He didn't want anybody in carbs 

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or anything like that and that's
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I don't want anybody to think 
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I mean, that's what I do, but I 
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Went on other people based off 
of what they did and I think the

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fact that you you know had this 
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head you know, knocking and you 
experimented with it and then 

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have come out of it with just 
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I feel like that is incredibly 
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Like to me, it's better for you 
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carnivore for two years and then
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experiment and figure out how 
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better off for having done, that
trial, period, seen how it 

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affect you, physically, and 
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And now you just know, like, 
there's no more question, 

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there's no more nagging. 
What if in the back your mind? 

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Like you just know and your 
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Amplified and significantly. 
That's right. 

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So yeah, and yeah, no, go ahead.
No, your go ahead. 

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So, like for me, you know, I 
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know that. 
I feel like there's a lot of 

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people in the space right now. 
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influencers, coaches, you know, 
gurus that they don't have 

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enough self-awareness to know 
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things. 
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whatever is the hype at the 
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Yeah. 
I know it's human nature and, 

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you know, like, I don't sure all
them for that like everybody 

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wants to figure out who they are
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do it. 
You figure out who you are by 

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experimenting and seeing what 
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you can't really Of this, fake 
it till you make it approach and

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experimenting, and paint 
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that given topic. 
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preaching an entirely different 
message because then you're just

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confusing everybody's listening 
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Absolutely. 
So for you, I'm just going off 

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of that tribe right now. 
So, forgive me. 

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But for you like, what, what do 
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Going for like, who is Brandon 
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everything you've done in the 
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know, been in the keto space for
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experiment, come out of it. 
Like like, where do you, where 

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you at now? 
What are you excited about? 

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I am on a straight path of 
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There's no way in heck. 
You can ever tell me to to tell 

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me that carbs are okay for 
everybody. 

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So, you know, it's like you 
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like that is my main goal. 
Now for me, personally, for my 

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mindset, for my head for where I
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ketogenic now. 
I'm not going to stress over 

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protein intake. 
Like, if I go over on my 

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protein, fine, big deal, like 
the whole, you know, extra 

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protein knock shot of ketosis, 
whatever it do. 

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I check my ketones. 
Nope. 

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I haven't even checked them in 
the past month that I've been, 

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you know, back to Quito. 
I can I can physically tell how 

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I feel and when I'm in it and 
it's almost like a 

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self-awareness thing, like you 
said, But for me, yep, I will 

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probably never ever ever go back
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ever. 
It's just it works for me. 

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It keeps my head focused. 
It keeps me motivated. 

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I know, I don't want to be the 
person that I was and I slept 

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like, I slowly started to slip 
back into being a jerk and 

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having an attitude all the time.
And I could directly see how it 

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affected my my well-being. 
So, I don't want to be that guy 

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anymore. 
I want to be uplifting. 

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I want to be in Jeddak, I want 
to have enough energy throughout

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the day and being in ketosis 
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Burning fat for fuel is the way 
to go 100%. 

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Well, I'm on the same page for 
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Yeah, a lot of people think that
if you like have this 

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elimination approach to certain 
food groups and that you paint 

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certain foods is being, you 
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is just a weakness on your part.
Like you should be able to have 

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moderation, you should be able 
to incorporate everything and 

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then be stronger than that 
burning desire. 

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So like like that's definitely 
one arguments, that's what one 

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side of the spectrum, you know, 
suggest for sure. 

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But like, in that context, what 
is your response to that? 

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Like how do you, you know, wrap 
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that and go forward with it? 
So when you see people saying 

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that you say I take a step back 
and I look at them and I look at

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their their past and I look at 
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what they're about as a person, 
right? 

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And if somebody in He says, oh, 
you know, you you can have 

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everything just be, you know, be
cognizant of what you're eating 

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and you're able to cheat near 
able to do this. 

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Well, you're telling that to a 
broad audience, right? 

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You're not saying to that one 
individual that's you know, 3 

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400 pounds. 
He's had an eating issue their 

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entire life when you have it. 
So to listen to people say that 

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drives me absolutely nuts 
because one like, they don't 

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know what We're going through or
what we've been through, they 

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don't know, food addiction in 
sometimes, they might so, you 

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know, but nine out of ten times,
let's be real. 

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They don't, they've always been 
concerned with their physique, 

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they've always looked good. 
They don't have any loose skin. 

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You can just tell man. 
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that person because I know what 
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people do. 
Yeah, it's funny because like, I

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know, I know a lot of different 
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types of people that have gone 
through very different paths and

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Look at my dad, for instance, in
my dad is, you know, almost 62 

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years old. 
He's in shape, it looks great. 

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He's like hustling pouring 
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he's freaking, he's a super 
smart guy. 

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He's like a, he's a, he's 
killing it. 

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But he doesn't know what a bicep
curl is. 

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He didn't notice Squad as he 
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Fitness. 
He's very physically fit from 

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like, you know, working and 
living on land, right. 

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He doesn't care about, you know,
physical fitness in the sense of

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looking good aesthetically. 
Etc. 

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Etc. 
He's never understood my 

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bodybuilding goals and 
Endeavors. 

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He appreciates and respects it 
now, but it took him a long time

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to figure out what the heck I 
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Like he's never been overweight,
he he doesn't understand you 

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know, food addiction he doesn't 
get it like it's just not even 

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it does not compute in his brain
and but you know you try to 

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explain these things to somebody
that's never gone that route, 

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you know, he can moderate, 
whatever he can have super you 

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know, high quality. 
Grass-grown whatever. 

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And then a piece of cheesecake 
at the end of it and not think 

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twice about it, you know. 
And his body was just a healthy 

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and in shape and he'll live to 
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that have struggle with food 
have you know gone through a 

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binging and purging Cycles like 
it's you can't even relate and 

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for like somebody like my dad 
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it, you know, and be fine more 
power to him, you know, it's not

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my place to say you should eat a
certain way like if it's working

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for You can be happy and healthy
with it. 

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You don't have these crazy 
nagging thoughts in your brain, 

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then more power to keep doing 
what you're doing. 

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It's working. 
But I don't think they have the 

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platform have the right have the
ability to credibility to tell 

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people that have gone through, 
you know, various binging and 

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purging Cycles, how they should 
eat. 

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Absolutely. 
Yeah. 

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I made in another thing, it's 
like they preached the same diet

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to the masses and it's your 
typical high. 

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Have low fat diet because of 
you, we all know that fat makes 

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you fat, right? 
So, but it's that just drives me

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nuts, especially when they're 
not open to other diets and 

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seeing what might work for one 
of your clients or what might 

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not work. 
So, yeah, I hear you, man. 

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It's tough. 
It's tough for sure. 

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It is. 
It is I think I don't know man. 

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Like from a physiological 
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there's any inherent benefit to 
car. 

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Like you can definitely use 
carbs, you can get away with 

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eating carbs based off of your, 
you know, how efficient your 

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metabolism is, what your lean 
muscle mass is, I mean, I could 

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eat carbs and get away with it 
but I try and look at everything

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in life to the context and 
through the lens of. 

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Do I really want to live life on
terms of what I can get away 

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with? 
Or do I want to live my life in 

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terms of what I can optimize 
for? 

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And when I think of it through 
that lens they're just not 

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really point. 
Like I can't really justify 

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eating a bunch of cars because I
just don't see Any benefit to 

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it, you know, whether that's 
physiological or psychological. 

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Absolutely. 
So, so this going back now you 

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said that, it triggered my 
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July. 
Like I said, I ran 100 miles in 

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July and I was I want to, I was 
sluggish, my times were a lot 

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slower. 
Granted, I was running over 

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three miles a day, so it's kind 
of taxing, but my miles were a 

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lot slower. 
When I was eating carbs because 

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Just didn't feel as good. 
Now the past two weeks may have 

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my ties have been going up. 
My runs have been feeling 

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awesome like I have sustained 
energy through hyper thing. 

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I crashed at the end of my run. 
So again optimizing, what does 

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your body runs best on at total 
of him? 

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Yep. 
All right, so you're doing, 

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you're doing like a one mile a 
day for the whole every day of 

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the year, right? 
And that wouldn't that the 

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river? 
Yep, that's it. 

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But I have I have not missed a 
day yet. 

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I haven't eaten, man. 
I haven't I didn't even do. 

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This, because you've done it, 
but I have not nothing today. 

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Either I started running when I 
did my contest prep because the 

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gym clothes and all the stereo 
masters were gone. 

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Yeah, I switched over to running
and then I just fell in love 

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with it. 
So I committed to basically at 

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least running a mile, it's 
usually about one point three to

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two miles somewhere in that 
window but yeah, I'm sure that's

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the Run since I don't know, 
December something of last year,

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dude, that is awesome. 
That is so awesome. 

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Now I'm up to think like 460 
some miles for this year so far.

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So do you use like a certain app
for tracking that? 

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Yeah I use Nike running club. 
Do you like it? 

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No, it's not bad. 
The only reason I got all this 

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is David Webb was on it and he 
was like dude you know hit me up

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will be friends on there and so 
bad. 

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Just I haven't used anything 
else because I was so used to 

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it. 
Nice I'm at the play around with

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that and I've tried a bunch of 
different ones like they have 

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tried. 
Not sins of that's for food. 

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What's it called? 
Strava I've seen travel yeah and

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It's I like it. 
I think that's one of the gold 

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standards in the running app 
market but I feel like half the 

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time. 
It totally. 

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Miss long's my run like it. 
I'll be running for 30 minutes. 

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Do some long distance run and 
I'll look at it in a bit like 

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you've run for two minutes and 
have made point three mile 

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progress or something like that.
Oh no frustrates. 

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Me might I can there's a bike 
trail up the road from me. 

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It's like six miles and it is 
nothing but twists and turns and

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it is the GPS on that. 
Spot on it. 

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It'll track the entire thing. 
I've never had an issue. 

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Nice, I think that's been my 
issue, because I do a bunch of 

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off-road trail running on bike 
trails, and I feel like that's 

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where it really messes up. 
The GPS, I'm going to switch 

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over and give that Nike run a 
try. 

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There you go. 
Do you have any kind of like 

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nagging pain in your joints at 
all, ankles knees in that that 

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from running? 
So consistently nice not 

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anymore. 
I did at the beginning of the 

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year. 
Pretty consistent, outer right, 

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knee pain. 
But I just I just I cuz I would 

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I'm like one of those guys that 
takes something to the extreme. 

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So I was running like a 5k Every
Single Day at the beginning of 

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the year, and I was like all 
right dude, your goal was one 

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mile. 
Let's bring it back. 

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Let's, let's give your body a 
little bit of a break. 

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And then once I, you know, did 
one mile only for a couple of 

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weeks my knee pain went away. 
Otherwise, man. 

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I don't have any dog pain at 
all. 

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Nice. 
So, did you like, what kind of 

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shoes you running in a? 
You do any kind of specific 

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shoes? 
Yeah. 

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I'm running in the Brooks and 
ghost ghost 12s right now. 

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Best she's ever that I've had, I
do like the the Brooks. 

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I just got a pair of Brooks that
were the she, what's the other? 

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What's the other Brooks model? 
You know, I do, it's Brooke shoe

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but that's been pretty good. 
I've got a really bad over 

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pronated Feats. 
Like I got jacked up feet but 

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the Brooks do pretty well for me
for sure. 

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Gotcha, good deal. 
We'll talk about hunting man. 

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You and I are both big Hunters 
almost about the hunting season.

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Have you been shooting the bow 
as consistently as you've been 

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running? 
Know. 

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That is a big - no bo Mi. 
Nah know. 

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I don't know, man. 
It's I don't know, my my focus 

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here. 
Slater's been on rifles and 

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doing some long range shooting 
and and yeah so that and I got 

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into some suppressor action, 
where I've got a suppressor for 

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a couple of my rifles now. 
So we've been coyote hunting at 

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night with thermal optics. 
So that's been that's been my 

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focus this summer, but most 
seasoned right around the 

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corner. 
So, I need to get on it, man. 

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Let's talk about this for a 
second. 

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So you're doing suppressor on 
the coyote hunts, and because it

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could, you can't you just 
Oppressor during deer season, 

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right? 
It's only for Cody's know, you 

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can use it, at least in 
Virginia, we can use them. 

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Wow, I didn't know that. 
Is that, that down the volume 

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pretty, pretty good. 
Oh yeah, they're well, it just 

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depends on your round because 
you have, you have a supersonic 

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Rouse, then you have subsonic 
rounds depending on which 

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caliber and once you put a 
subsonic round in a suppressor, 

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it's it's whisper quiet. 
You probably, you could probably

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shoot it inside of your shop and
nobody would ever know that you 

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shot it. 
Side. 

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So what are you shooting? 
300 Blackout? 

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Nice. 
Nice, what kind of scope you? 

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I don't know. 
I think it's a Aslan. 

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Aslan Talos. 
You like it? 

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Oh yeah, I love it. 
Love it. 

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That's but that's all my day 
scope. 

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I have a pulsar Apex thermal on 
my coyote rifle which is a 6.5 

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grundle. 
That's that's an awesome around.

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By the way, if you get into bars
any more than you are Yeah, I've

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got, I've got an A Yarn I love 
that. 

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I'd use it mostly just for 
plinking around the farm. 

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The like, I'll take it that when
we go, you know, looking for 

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paper and whatnot. 
But I have not done an official 

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coyote hunts like I've have 
killed Cody but I've never like 

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done the full-blown. 
You know have like a predator 

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call out. 
Go out there with thermals like 

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that. 
That sounds like a ball game. 

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Dude, that is so much fun, so 
much fun because the thermal at 

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night you're completely blacked 
out. 

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Like, you don't as long as long 
as you play the wind, you're on 

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the mend and they don't see you 
but you can see them through 

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that thermal scope and it's 
Lights Out. 

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It's it's pretty fun. 
Well, I could be using thermals 

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for the wild hog so I thought 
about getting them for that. 

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Yes, you know. 
So that will be that'd be sweet 

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man because our farm is just 
riddled with with feral pigs. 

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I feel like having a thermal and
being able to take advantage of 

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them moving Night would be the 
way to go. 

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There, we could have a blast 
mittai. 

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I'll fly out there and I'll just
bring the rifle with me. 

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We can have some fun. 
Do it, man, do it. 

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All right, Arkansas deer. 
Season is super long. 

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You can kill like 60 in 
Arkansas, which is crazy. 

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That's a lot more than most 
States. 

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But you know, the Pig season 
here is year-round because we're

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just overridden by him. 
So yeah, man, let's make a trip 

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out of it. 
Will have the I'm trying to get 

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like a little get-together going
with the select few group of 

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people come out to the farm. 
You know, Danny Vegas is 

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definitely in atoms, in I guess 
you're right now and we'll just 

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all go out there and be freaking
Savage is out in the woods man. 

443
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,400
Dude, that would be awesome and 
like, yeah, so if anybody else 

444
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,600
has a thermal, that would be 
even better, because two 

445
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:53,500
Shooters are better than one. 
That's for sure. 

446
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:57,300
Two Shooters have been in, I'll 
get in the thermal Dot from my 

447
00:23:57,300 --> 00:23:59,500
bow and I'll just go through 
with the bow. 

448
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:05,000
Hey, they hey, you could easily 
do that with a, they make a 

449
00:24:05,008 --> 00:24:08,000
thermal monocular that you could
attach to you like a helmet. 

450
00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,100
Really do like some somebody. 
Yeah. 

451
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:13,000
So you can do some Black Ops 
like looking through your optic.

452
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,200
Get the hog at the same time. 
They were very sweet. 

453
00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:16,600
I'll be down. 
I didn't know. 

454
00:24:16,608 --> 00:24:19,200
They even had those. 
It's getting kind of crazy to 

455
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,100
take man like I'm all about 
traditional hunting where you go

456
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:26,000
out there like as far as going 
out there like a old-school. 50 

457
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,500
caliber Muzzleloader and 
freaking Buckskin leggings and 

458
00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:33,400
now you got monocular thermal, 
optics, copes, and all kinds of 

459
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,800
crazy stuff. 
It's it's a huge Market though, 

460
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,300
man. 
Like And thermal optics are not 

461
00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:43,000
cheap. 
Like yeah, if you, you gotta buy

462
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,600
it, you're going to cry for that
day and then you, then you're 

463
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,200
going to have some fun. 
Well, those are the kind of 

464
00:24:48,208 --> 00:24:50,500
Optics. 
I mean, is it All Battery 

465
00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,000
pattern or how they get that set
up? 

466
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,000
Yeah, it's battery-powered. 
You takes the cr123 batteries, 

467
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,700
some of them have an external 
battery packs, but they last, I 

468
00:24:59,708 --> 00:25:02,900
think the batteries last about 
three, to four hours of run 

469
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:05,000
time. 
And then, once once I'm hog 

470
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,300
hunting, I just, I run an 
external battery pack. 

471
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,200
That way, I can run it. 
All night long and not have to 

472
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,500
worry about it. 
Nice. 

473
00:25:11,500 --> 00:25:13,500
Nice. 
Do you still use your your air 

474
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:16,000
rifle for all the close range? 
Dear, you're shooting? 

475
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:20,200
No, no, I got rid of it, man. 
I guess I got ya, I got out of 

476
00:25:20,208 --> 00:25:22,600
the air rifle business. 
Well I was using it here at the 

477
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,000
house for these local deer, but 
they ended up tearing all the 

478
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,100
woods out beside the house and 
building a horse farm. 

479
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:31,800
So I didn't I didn't feel like I
should shoot that rifle that 

480
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,400
direction anymore. 
So, that's the word if, uh, 

481
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,200
yeah. 
If I go out into the woods to 

482
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,400
hunt a deer, I'm A real goes so 
morbo. 

483
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:41,800
You still out about hunting, 
right? 

484
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:45,100
Oh yeah, yeah, I do it all. 
So nice. 

485
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:47,600
I'm gonna try and make cuz I got
I got kind of into bowhunting 

486
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,300
last year when I went on that 
hunt in Washington and I'm just 

487
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:52,100
been freaking hooked man. 
Like I've been shooting every 

488
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:55,700
day and I feel like for me like 
I've got this Bulldog 

489
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,800
personality in which if there's 
something that I can 

490
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,900
consistently do every single 
day, whether it be running a 

491
00:25:59,908 --> 00:26:02,600
mile, hit my macros or shooting 
the bow, like that's what I'm 

492
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,600
gonna do and I feel like that is
just it's like therapy for me. 

493
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,800
Yeah, absolutely, I hear you 
man. 

494
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:15,400
I took I think six or seven on 
my rifles out to a buddy's farm 

495
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,800
this past weekend and just took 
an hour or two to shoot and it's

496
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,000
like you get. 
So it's such a relaxing. 

497
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Like rewarding thing, seeing 
that bullet, hit the paper where

498
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,100
you wanted to hit, you know, 
then you just Envision like the 

499
00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:29,400
reward. 
You're going to get from when 

500
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,700
you kill a deer or a hog or 
whatever and then, you know, 

501
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,600
take it home and eat it. 
There's no better feeling ever. 

502
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,900
So you get Venison left in the 
freezer Stiller? 

503
00:26:37,900 --> 00:26:42,900
No. 
I do actually, we're able to 

504
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:47,600
kill six deer, just like you. 
And then, we can also buy six, 

505
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,000
more do tags if you would like. 
And then in where I live, we 

506
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,500
have Urban archery where the 
season basically lasts from 

507
00:26:56,500 --> 00:26:59,100
September 5th through the end of
March. 

508
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,300
So then we have season. 
The deer is the deer here in 

509
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:07,900
this urban area is out of 
control man there. 

510
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:10,700
Every every day when I'm My way 
out of the neighborhood. 

511
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:11,900
There's a dead deer laying 
there. 

512
00:27:11,900 --> 00:27:14,400
Like, it's ridiculous. 
It's crazy, man. 

513
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,800
So my shooting as well. 
Yeah. 

514
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:17,900
But it's so crazy. 
Yeah. 

515
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:20,600
Yeah, it was a vehicle, you 
know, it's a lot more useful. 

516
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:25,100
Absolutely. 
Gotta people people don't like 

517
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:27,500
us hunting either. 
It's just drives me nuts. 

518
00:27:27,500 --> 00:27:29,700
Like you're going to hit this 
deal with your car or I'm going 

519
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:31,900
to hit it with an arrow. 
I'm going to take it home and 

520
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,300
eat it and feed my family. 
Like, what do you want? 

521
00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:38,600
Yeah, we can mean, there'd be a 
whole podcast episode in just 

522
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:42,000
imagine the frustration among 
the people that are against 

523
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,400
hunting anti-hunting. 
But again I don't want to you 

524
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,100
know I don't want to pay anybody
else like if you don't want to 

525
00:27:46,108 --> 00:27:48,800
hunt by all means don't hide. 
But if but you know you don't 

526
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,100
want to hunt and you're eating 
meat and then you're going to 

527
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,700
pass judgment on hon. 
Is that a respectable hunters 

528
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:56,300
and there's probably something 
loose upstairs if you want to 

529
00:27:56,300 --> 00:27:59,200
mean. 
And then we can tie that back to

530
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,500
food and nutrition. 
To everybody is so disconnected 

531
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:05,700
from that type of life that 
they're so easily. 

532
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,500
Swayed by food commercials and 
go into the food line or the 

533
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,700
grocery store and buying a bunch
of crap to eat. 

534
00:28:11,700 --> 00:28:15,000
Like they don't know what real 
food is like there's no there's 

535
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,900
no connection there but yeah 
that we could talk about that 

536
00:28:17,900 --> 00:28:21,100
all day long 100% man. 
I've been I'm trying to make 

537
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:23,400
room in my freezer right now. 
I've got A little bit of venison

538
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,000
hanging out still. 
So I've been eating backstrap, I

539
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,700
said my bank strap for the for 
the end for whatever reason, but

540
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:30,900
I've been eating back strap and 
tenderloin every single day for 

541
00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:34,200
the past, like two weeks from 
today until last year. 

542
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,900
And it's amazing man. 
I've been, I'll get the Primal 

543
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:40,500
Kitchen, caesar salad dressing. 
I tried this last night. 

544
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,900
I got the Primal Kitchen, 
caesar, salad, dressing, and 

545
00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:45,800
then just marinated in that, and
then threw it on the Trager. 

546
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,800
And that was like the bomb 
diggity man. 

547
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,700
Yeah, that sounds freaking 
amazing. 

548
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:52,100
How long do you cook it on the 
trigger? 

549
00:28:52,500 --> 00:28:54,600
I've been doing just like a 
reverse sear, so I'll put it on 

550
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,600
225 degrees and then I'll put 
the temperature probe in there 

551
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,500
and then I'll let it cook until 
it reaches about 110. 

552
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,100
I'll take it off. 
I'll crank it up to 500 Degrees 

553
00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:06,100
and then soon as it gets up to 
Temp, I'll just put it back on 

554
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:09,300
the grill and sear it for about 
22 minutes, each side or so that

555
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:13,100
usually does the trick. 
Nice gosh, my mouth is watering 

556
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:15,600
now. 
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna freaking

557
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,400
love it, man. 
There's I made a post, he had a 

558
00:29:17,408 --> 00:29:20,800
there's something about like, 
eating food that you've killed 

559
00:29:21,300 --> 00:29:25,000
and like, The flavor like it's 
marinated in the memories, man. 

560
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,400
It's marinated in the memories 
of what it took to get that food

561
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,800
and put it on the plate. 
And that's, I mean, you can't 

562
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,500
buy that in the superstore. 
You can't. 

563
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,900
No, no, you can't. 
By the time you spent out in the

564
00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:38,900
woods, you can't buy that 
connection. 

565
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:42,500
You can't buy it at all. 
It's priceless priceless for 

566
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:46,200
sure. 100% ma'am. 
So I'm curious now that you're 

567
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,700
full fledged back into the keto 
carnivore, which I want to pick 

568
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:52,100
your brain about that, too, with
regard to what? 

569
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,300
It earlier, you know, you're not
hard core you know ride-or-die 

570
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:59,100
carnivores so much as you are. 
Just keto, not really worried 

571
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,700
about that protein amount which 
I think is 100% the way to go 

572
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,800
about it. 
Like I think having periods of 

573
00:30:04,808 --> 00:30:07,300
time where you're strict, 
carnivore can be great, it's 

574
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,700
like great elimination of Pros 
to just re establish a baseline 

575
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:15,100
but I feel like it's it's not 
sustainable for most people. 

576
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:18,000
I mean most people want a little
bit of vegetation that one of 

577
00:30:18,008 --> 00:30:20,200
the salad every once in a while 
and they shouldn't feel guilty 

578
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,300
for eating, you know. 
Absolutely. 

579
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:26,600
And I started to feel that way a
lot because, you know, my name 

580
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,300
on Instagram is Quito carnivore 
King and I just, I so two years 

581
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:35,900
ago, I changed my name to that 
just for myself because I 

582
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:39,400
didn't, I wanted some 
accountability and I was keto, 

583
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:43,400
but more animal-based like heavy
heavy meat consumption because 

584
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,000
I'm a Hunter. 
So it naturally just fit and the

585
00:30:46,008 --> 00:30:47,100
name. 
Sounded cool. 

586
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,900
Don't, I won't be honest with 
you, right? 

587
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,100
But so I did one month of A 
carnivore lost a bunch of 

588
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:55,000
weight. 
You know, naturally you're going

589
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:00,100
to lose a bunch of weight and I 
just I got wrapped up in the 

590
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:04,800
whole carnivore stuff and it 
eventually led me to even 

591
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,700
binging on keto stuff like hito 
treats and snacks. 

592
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:13,700
And like, although I could stop 
Justified to myself of this is 

593
00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:15,800
still keto, but then go binge on
it. 

594
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:20,900
So now, now that I'm saying, I'm
not strict carnivore. 

595
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:26,600
I'm back to Quito is that has 
allowed me to enjoy the, you 

596
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:31,300
know, quote keto treats and you 
know, still good, you know, good

597
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:34,700
food and it not bother me 
psychologically like it doesn't 

598
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:40,900
mess with my head, I can easily 
go, you know, enjoy something 

599
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:45,200
that's, you know, sugar free and
not feel bad about it, 100% man.

600
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:47,800
I mean, yeah. 
I feel like everything in the, 

601
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,100
in the space kind of goes in 
waves, like, there's certain 

602
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,800
things that are hyped up at sir.
Times. 

603
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,100
And for a while, it seemed that 
the past five or six months or 

604
00:31:55,100 --> 00:31:59,000
so, it's just been about, you 
know, carnivore and 

605
00:31:59,100 --> 00:32:02,300
anti-nutrients in plants and 
like when you pair those 

606
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,700
together, it's like you just go 
away on one end of the spectrum 

607
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,100
of the other. 
So like you want to be carnivore

608
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:10,100
because there's just so much 
nutrient density and organ 

609
00:32:10,100 --> 00:32:11,600
meats, and meat and etcetera, 
Etc. 

610
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,900
But then, like you start 
painting, you know, any form of 

611
00:32:14,908 --> 00:32:18,500
vegetation in a negative light 
and it's like almost like you, 

612
00:32:18,508 --> 00:32:21,200
you're freaking criminal if you 
have a salad, you know. 

613
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,700
You just a weird way to think 
about things. 

614
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:28,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I had 
one guy message me on Instagram.

615
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:32,200
He's like, I can't believe you 
eat those. 

616
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:35,000
Keto bricks there there, 
plant-based protein, and I'm 

617
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,600
like, dude, it doesn't bother me
whatsoever and they're freaking 

618
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,100
delicious. 
Like, what is, what is it 

619
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,300
matter? 
What I do? 

620
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,800
Yeah, you know, like, like, if 
you don't like plant-based 

621
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,200
stuff, then don't eat it. 
Like, that's all on you, but 

622
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,300
just just because I'm doing it, 
doesn't mean I'm doing. 

623
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,600
Wrong and do die. 
You will not believe the amount 

624
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,600
of messages you probably do. 
I don't you? 

625
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,500
Probably get the same crap. 
I've gotten over the past years 

626
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,400
but you just always deal with 
the haters and people that think

627
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,700
that their way is the only way. 
So yeah, it's frustrated man. 

628
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:07,800
Like when you especially when 
you own a business, you start 

629
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,900
putting stuff out there, you 
know, you put content out there 

630
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,100
for people to take and do with 
it as they will. 

631
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,300
And yeah, it's not been as bad 
lately but when Krystal and I 

632
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:20,100
first started the key to break 
business and we were putting 

633
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:23,200
out, you know, the launches and 
everything we would sell out in 

634
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,200
just a matter of minutes. 
We got so much shit, man. 

635
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,800
People would be just hating on 
us for. 

636
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,100
Not making more not having the 
money to make more, not being 

637
00:33:32,100 --> 00:33:35,400
good business people. 
It's like, you just hate on us 

638
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,100
and I mean, we would stay up all
night long, you know, days on 

639
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:43,700
end, making these things just to
be met with hate and it was like

640
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,900
incredibly disheartening like 
there's a couple tear-filled 

641
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:50,500
nights for sure. 
And it's like, I got thick skin 

642
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,000
pretty quick. 
There and then it's like, you 

643
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,900
know what, I know what my 
intentions are, I know what I 

644
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:57,600
stand for. 
I know why I'm doing what I'm 

645
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,600
doing, I have that 
self-awareness, I'm going to 

646
00:33:59,608 --> 00:34:01,700
keep doing what I'm doing 
because I believe in and if 

647
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:05,400
anybody wants to talk shit on 
that then let them but I have no

648
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:06,600
respect for them in the first 
place. 

649
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,199
So anything they say it's like 
it's like I don't care like if I

650
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,000
don't respect them, if they're 
like some random you know handle

651
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,500
on Instagram that was probably 
made just to be a troll. 

652
00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:18,500
Then yeah. 
Get out of my life bro. 

653
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,699
Yeah. 
Get out of my Business. 

654
00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:24,699
And it the crazy thing to me is 
like, if I see somebody that's 

655
00:34:24,699 --> 00:34:28,000
starting a business or doing 
something like that and they 

656
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,400
sell out and I didn't get one, 
I'm going to be like, hell yeah,

657
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,000
I'm happy for you. 
Keep on doing what you're doing 

658
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,600
because it's working and you're 
progressing, your make your 

659
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,500
getting bigger, right? 
And that's what you did. 

660
00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:41,699
So people that hate like that 
don't have any respect for 

661
00:34:41,707 --> 00:34:43,600
themselves. 
So plain and simple. 

662
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,500
That's all that is you gotta act
like you don't want to judge but

663
00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,699
the same time you gotta like 
hear what they're saying and be 

664
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:52,900
like, they're probably Coming 
from a very negative Place 

665
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:55,800
internally and they feel the 
need to lash out, like, I don't 

666
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,200
know. 
The last time I watched a 

667
00:34:57,207 --> 00:35:00,900
YouTube video and felt compelled
to write a negative comment, 

668
00:35:00,900 --> 00:35:03,000
like I don't right - what's the 
point? 

669
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,200
Yeah. 
What's the point? 

670
00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:07,100
So there's none if they're gonna
do that. 

671
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:09,700
They're probably just coming 
from a negative place in the 

672
00:35:09,700 --> 00:35:12,600
first place. 
And you know me, lashing back at

673
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,200
Adams, not going to get anything
accomplished. 

674
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,600
I honestly, just feel sorry for 
him. 

675
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:19,800
Yeah, just ignore the haters and
move on 100% man. 

676
00:35:19,900 --> 00:35:22,400
So, what's next for you? 
What's in the pipeline, what are

677
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400
you excited about? 
What excited about with regard 

678
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,800
to the keto space as a whole 
like where you see it? 

679
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,300
Going? 
Where do you see you fitting 

680
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,300
into it all? 
Just kind of pitch. 

681
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:31,800
Some ideas my way man, I'm 
curious. 

682
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:38,100
Um I don't know, man. 
I so with the whole diet break 

683
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,100
the key, you know, keto break, I
kind of took a step back from 

684
00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:46,800
social media as well, naturally,
right, because I'm not on there 

685
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,500
for some particular reason I 
still posted like once a week or

686
00:35:50,500 --> 00:35:55,000
once a month or whatever, but, 
going back and changing my name.

687
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,800
I promise to myself, that I 
would not get wrapped up in any 

688
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,800
drama. 
I would not get wrapped up in in

689
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:09,000
any one person's choice and try 
to, you know, sway me in any 

690
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:14,600
direction like it did. 
And just to be myself and not 

691
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:18,000
consume like dude, if you were 
to look to my activity level and

692
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Instagram, holy crap is like 45 
hours a day. 

693
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,600
No, I'm not even I'm not gonna 
be honest with you and now you 

694
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,200
can go to my thing and it's 
maybe like 35 minutes a day. 

695
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,600
It consumed me. 
So I still want to be in the 

696
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,000
space and the reason for that is
accountability for myself 

697
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,200
mainly, but to also show others 
that it's okay to screw up or 

698
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,000
not even screw up but to to 
figure things out for themselves

699
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,900
and to figure out what works 
best for them. 

700
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:52,200
I constantly have, you know, 
messages daily say, hey man, we 

701
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600
missed you. 
Like we appreciate your posts 

702
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,500
and your honesty and your 
humility and like, just keep on 

703
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,700
being you because I've lost 100 
pounds. 

704
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,600
Pounds because of you because I 
found your account. 

705
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:06,800
So for just just hearing that 
keeps me motivated with the 

706
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,200
space and just moving forward 
with Instagram. 

707
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,200
So so Facebook and Instagram are
participant completely opposite.

708
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,900
You know, I keep Facebook 
private and Instagram is open so

709
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:25,900
I just don't I want to be able 
to share my personal experiences

710
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:29,600
with everybody on Instagram so 
they can not just so much to 

711
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,900
learn. 
From it but to to you know, just

712
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:35,600
to keep on inspiring people to. 
It's okay to mess up and be 

713
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,300
yourself and just figure out 
what works best for you. 

714
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:43,200
So 100% managed it's funny 
because like all try and just 

715
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,900
observe the community that space
and just see where things are 

716
00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:50,200
going so that I can do, you 
know, be strategic as a business

717
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,200
owner but also just so I can 
hopefully offer some value where

718
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:55,600
I see where people's interests 
lie. 

719
00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:59,500
But yeah, it's it's it can be 
very consuming if you let it for

720
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:01,800
sure. 
I mean, there's so much drama 

721
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,400
and there's so much drama around
nutrition and it's honestly just

722
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,900
amazes me like people get. 
So, you know, uptight about what

723
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:13,000
people are eating and this, you 
know, like, I'll see something 

724
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,500
on Twitter to the worst. 
You don't want to go on Twitter.

725
00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:19,400
It's a blank though. 
But I'll see people like in the 

726
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,100
flexible dieting, you know, If 
It Fits your Macros space, just 

727
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,800
totally lashing out about all 
these, you know, quote, unquote,

728
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:26,200
keto zealots, that's what they 
call us. 

729
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,600
Yeah and there are some key toes
out. 

730
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:30,900
There's some there's some za 
It's out there that are very 

731
00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,300
dogmatic in their thinking and 
they just don't they don't think

732
00:38:35,300 --> 00:38:39,200
but that is not the whole and I 
see stories like what you 

733
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,400
described as people having lost 
100 pounds because they're 

734
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,300
inspired by something that, you 
know, you put out, I put out 

735
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:48,100
somebody put out and slike, you 
hear messages like that and you 

736
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,300
can't help but feel good about 
the community that you're in and

737
00:38:50,308 --> 00:38:54,000
that you're a part of and right,
that's what 100% keeps me doing 

738
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,100
what I'm doing. 
And I feel like we're better 

739
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:59,600
off, you know, for the stuff we 
put out for those people like 

740
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,300
that's the snow. 
Those are people that were doing

741
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:02,900
this for. 
Sure. 

742
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:05,100
Absolutely. 
I love it. 

743
00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:09,600
Yeah, I yeah, I think I think 
for myself it's like I'm 

744
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,600
obviously completely honest when
I took the whole Instagram 

745
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:18,700
break, like I didn't care what I
ate like and that was it was bad

746
00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:20,600
for me. 
I'm not saying Instagram runs in

747
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,100
my life and in regards to my 
diet, but it definitely helps 

748
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,900
man, because you it's the 
community, the people that care 

749
00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:30,100
about their health. 
And you see that and people That

750
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:34,000
name you just like so what if so
and so wants to have this to 

751
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,800
eat, like if I don't agree with 
it, I'm not going to go say 

752
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,900
something, but I'm sure it's not
going to respect you. 

753
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:43,300
And I'm going to put, you know, 
be uplifting in any way that I 

754
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:46,100
can like, dude, I don't think 
I've said a negative word on 

755
00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:51,600
Instagram ever like, yeah, like 
we're all in this together and 

756
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,900
to be in this space, you know, 
to, to better our health as a 

757
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:59,500
whole like that helps big time. 
And I know not only for myself 

758
00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:01,700
but a lot of other people. 100%,
man. 

759
00:40:01,700 --> 00:40:06,600
I mean, I've known you for a 
couple years now, but like I've 

760
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,600
liked the way you've structured 
your content creation, just the 

761
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,400
person you are and the stuff 
you're putting out because it's 

762
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,200
never coming from a place of 
negativity. 

763
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,600
It's always just, you know 
positive it's always inspiring. 

764
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,400
It's always coming from a good 
place and I feel like if 

765
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,100
everybody just did that then 
obviously the world would be a 

766
00:40:25,107 --> 00:40:26,700
better place. 
You're doing it right? 

767
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,600
You know what you're doing? 
I appreciate that, man. 

768
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:35,300
You very much to say likewise 
for you buddy because and we can

769
00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:43,700
do this either earn our time. 
But when I first started, I 

770
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:45,400
David, I look back at you with 
out of the truck and I said, 

771
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,500
dude, your videos are what got 
me started and your videos on 

772
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:53,700
YouTube of you documenting your 
journey and how this works, and 

773
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:56,800
how that works. 
And, you know, my basic keto 

774
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:59,400
understanding came from you and 
go to Beats. 

775
00:40:59,700 --> 00:41:05,900
And this past month, I was like 
all right, dude, you're going 

776
00:41:05,900 --> 00:41:08,400
back keto because you know what 
it works and the first thing I 

777
00:41:08,408 --> 00:41:12,200
did was I got up on the TV and I
searched in Quito Savage and I 

778
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,900
went back three like 23 years of
videos and just started watching

779
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:18,800
them one night. 
Like now that was it and it got 

780
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,200
me, it got me pumped again and 
got me ready to freaking hit it,

781
00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:26,700
you know, hard and just got my 
mind where it needed to be 

782
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:28,400
stopped. 
Oh, I appreciate. 

783
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,000
Appreciate you. 
And No respect, big time. 

784
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:34,100
Yeah, Nana. 
That means the world, like I'm 

785
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,900
not the smartest guy out there 
by any means. 

786
00:41:35,900 --> 00:41:38,300
There's a lot of doctors and 
scientists and medical 

787
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:42,700
researchers at know, a heck of a
lot more than me, but I want to 

788
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:46,900
be known as the guy that has, 
you know, stood by the same 

789
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,800
message and, you know, grown in 
that message like learn and 

790
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,500
adapt it and improved upon it. 
But basically has been preaching

791
00:41:53,500 --> 00:41:56,700
the same message for years and 
years and years, and can be 

792
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:59,200
looked at as just that 
consistent disciplined. 

793
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:03,000
Rock that doesn't budge, you 
know, people go back and forth 

794
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,700
on things and that's fine. 
You know, everybody's got to 

795
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,300
find their path, but I was 
fortunate enough to have found 

796
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:11,400
my path early. 
Like, I screwed up, I screwed up

797
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,500
my health, I screwed up my 
business, I screwed up my 

798
00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,500
nutrition screwed up everything 
and I screwed up very, very 

799
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:20,400
early, and when I figured it out
when I fixed it, you know, I 

800
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,500
knew that I was on the right 
path and I have not wavered from

801
00:42:23,500 --> 00:42:26,900
that path since then, because I 
just knew, like, I had 100% 

802
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200
self-awareness. 
And I've since then, Not all the

803
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,100
content that I have and will 
continue to put out the content 

804
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:34,200
I have and I'll be putting out 
the same type of content when 

805
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:38,400
I'm 89 years old and I hope 
people can just see that and be 

806
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,500
inspired by that and know that 
what I preach is true and then I

807
00:42:41,508 --> 00:42:44,000
believe in it and I feel like if
you can get something out of 

808
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,600
that, and then my job is done. 
Absolutely a man. 

809
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,400
And if it just reaches that one 
person, that's all it matters, 

810
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,000
that's one better person. 
You know, 100% ready. 

811
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,200
Well shoot man you and I can sit
here and talk all day long but 

812
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,600
I'll let you get back to doing 
what you're doing. 

813
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:00,300
I'm about to throw, some venison
on the grill. 

814
00:43:00,500 --> 00:43:07,100
I do, I do want to get like a 
hunk a something more extreme 

815
00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:07,700
though. 
For sure. 

816
00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:10,700
So, stay on the line here after 
we get done with recording this 

817
00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:13,000
podcast, and let's get some 
dates on the calendar, man, 

818
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:14,700
awesome. 
And appreciate you. 

819
00:43:14,700 --> 00:43:16,300
Having me on buddy. 
Thank you soon. 

820
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,900
Well, for anybody who doesn't 
know, you are hasn't followed 

821
00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:23,000
you in the past. 
What is your current Instagram 

822
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,600
handle and what can they find 
you? 

823
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,800
It seems that bag buddy. 
It, sceeto.com navour, dot king.

824
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,000
So on Instagram. 
Yep, that's it. 

825
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,500
Awesome. 
Well, Brandon likes a man. 

826
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:34,800
Keep doing what you doing, you 
doing it, right? 

827
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:37,200
Appreciate you brother, and it's
definitely keep in touch. 

828
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,300
Yes, sir, thank you. 
See ma'am.

