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Hello, ladies and gents Robert 
Sykes, kilo, service.com. 

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Today, I've got special guest, 
Mike Bruce on the line and we 

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dive into all things. 
Parenting paleo nutrition. 

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He also has a young kid. 
Oh, his daughters four months 

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old. 
They're going the whole natural 

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route. 
They went the natural route with

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the home birth, the pregnancy. 
All of that, someone to kind of 

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pick his brain there. 
See what he wanted to do with 

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her nutritionally speaking and 
just through their upbringing. 

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So very interesting podcast 
learned a lot to have, no doubt 

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that you will take something 
from this. 

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Got a lot of respect for Mike 
and the things that he's 

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interested in things that he's 
working on. 

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So that further Ado, sit back. 
Relax enjoy conversation with 

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Mike Bruce 
And we're lab my countrymen. 

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I'm great man. 
Nice to meet you likewise. 

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Likewise so we got connected I 
think through my newsletter that

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the first place we got in touch.
Yeah, that's right. 

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I've listened. 
It's one of those funny things. 

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I'm a huge podcast listener to a
lot of podcast. 

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I've heard you on podcast. 
I never really dove into yours 

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too much, but I signed up for 
your email and I love your 

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emails. 
So that's really where I connect

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with you. 
A lot is hearing you hearing 

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your voice written. 
Very cool. 

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Very cool. 
I appreciate that, man. 

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So yeah, the, the topic, I think
on that newsletter, we were 

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diving into like I have a 
newborn, you have a newborn, and

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I think I was writing about 
cloth diapers without the 

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initial post, that's correct. 
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And then you chimed in and said,
you're also in part of the, the 

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cloth diaper clang. 
Oh yeah, I must confess them and

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I feel like a poser right now. 
So we are not using cloth 

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diapers at the moment. 
Started with cloth diapers, we 

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use them for several months and 
then we found a really clean non

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cloth diaper. 
So we went with that. 

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And then Chris and I weren't 
looking or talking about this 

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like the other day were like 
sweet, should we go back to 

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cloth diapers? 
And then we just kind of like 

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said no, yeah I mean maybe today
I convince you, I can't convince

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you but if not, it's still not a
big deal, you just got to do 

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what works for you. 
You know, obviously you keep the

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health of your baby, top of 
mind, but You do what you can. 

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There are so many other places 
that I'm sure you are acing. 

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It like not that not using 
cloth, diapers, isn't not a sing

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it, you know? 
But I'm sure you are. 

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Crushing it across the board in 
so many ways and actually, I got

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to correct that our first time 
chatting through email. 

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I think I we had a couple back 
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Several one, other topic, you 
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threw out trogdor, okay? 
Then that's it and if a lot of 

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people out there, There might 
know trogdor and if you don't 

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it's totally worth looking up 
trogdor. 

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Just to never be able to get 
this song out of your head ever 

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again. 
It's and it's a fun one. 

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So yeah, I never heard of that 
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the email but then as soon as 
you did I YouTube didn't and now

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it's stuck in my head, like you 
said, it would be? 

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Yeah, it's worthwhile. 
It's not like those. 

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It's not like a terrible 80s 
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It's just a funny song. 
So yeah, totally the whole 

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video. 
So remind me. 

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How old is your kid? 
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She just turned four months 
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okay? 
And and just so we can kind of 

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give some context here as it 
pertains the clock by persons 

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who brought that up. 
What's the motivation for you? 

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For going the route of cloth? 
Diapers, I we're gonna bring 

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this back to nutrition. 
We're gonna make this a 

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legitimate but I guess. 
Yeah, for sure shirt. 

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And so, yeah, I'm a, I'm a 
primal health coach Primal 

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certified. 
That's Mark system systems 

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company and you know the OG of 
the Paleo prime. 

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One of the O G's in the Paleo 
crime will movement. 

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And I, I've been in II was 220. 
Always sick, always unhealthy 

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ever since high school. 
When I quit after quit playing 

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football in high school and I 
got really unhealthy, nothing 

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ever worked. 
I was always that guy that just 

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dreamed of having abs and I just
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I just wanted to lose weight and
feel good and I never thought it

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would happen. 
All of a sudden that happened on

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accident on a vacation. 
I was like, I wanted to be a 

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glutton and cut out grains. 
That was literally it. 

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I just cut out, I didn't eat the
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I was Like, no, I want to eat 
all the steaks steaks at the 

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time were hurting me and I just,
it's so silly. 

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I remember a wrestler in high 
school saying, oh, yeah, man, if

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you want to fill up and be full 
all day, you just eat healthy 

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whole grain sandwiches with, 
like a single slice of turkey 

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breast a teaspoon of mayonnaise 
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how you lose weight. 
And I would try that and I would

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be so bloated for like two days.
Three days, four days always 

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always in pain struggling to tie
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bloated. 
And I'm just kept gaining 

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weight, had joint problems. 
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And I had headaches all the 
time, and I'm talking, like, lay

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down two hours a couple times a 
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So a, my brain never worked 
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I was always angry, always 
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anything, which is part of our 
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sensitive babies, and when I 
found that on a vacation, some 

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some Australian guy. 
Yeah, mate. 

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Sounds like you're eating a 
paleo diet. 

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I didn't know what he was 
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It was like 11 12 years ago. 
So I found I found nutrition 

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then and pretty much when your 
brain starts working for the 

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first time in your life. 
You don't, you no longer trust 

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anybody because you realize the 
doctors of lied to you about 

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food. 
You no longer like you just 

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don't you, you aren't okay with 
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You want to be optimal and 
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lead, and up until right before 
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we were pregnant in my Looks at 
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So and I'm always the one that 
brings up the crazy stuff in a 

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relationship and she goes. 
So, do you ever hear this 

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diaper-free thing? 
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was talking about. 
And I looked her, I said, I love

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you so much right now because I 
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She's diving and all the stuff 
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We had all these things, you 
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baby was born, totally 
unmedicated, which is super cool

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and, and yeah, it's so that's a 
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That's a whole lot of Time to, 
that's not much time to spit out

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a whole lot of years of my life.
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in the cloth. 
Diaper I started researching for

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fertility, I started researching
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synthetics and how they mess 
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Yeah. 
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science on that's a little off 
but they're not totally positive

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on it. 
There's only a handful of people

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have ever researched it but the 
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study on dogs and It by putting 
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dog. 
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fertility rates or I could be 
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study that's done like that that
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information is tossed out but I 
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I stick with that information. 
So I changed up all my 

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underwear. 
I got like a thousand dollars 

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worth of mizanin main shirts 
that I barely ever wear anymore 

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because I just don't want this 
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Yeah. 
It actually works. 

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The polyester works not just at 
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your friends with the guy that 
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I can't remember his name, 
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Yeah, yeah. 
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estrogenix and and that's 
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But then one that no one talks 
about is it it messes with our 

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electrons and like, electrons 
are who we are. 

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The energy that holds us 
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So when it starts to screw 
through, Runs it can can just 

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have this cascading effect 
throughout the whole body but 

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it's probably such a small thing
but it's just, you know, a 

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Thousand Cuts will kill a man. 
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in today's age. 
So I just always try to get my 

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cuts down to like a hundred a 
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know, 100% agreement. 
I feel like once you start going

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down the rabbit hole of 
nutrition and nutrition is like 

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very tangible, like, you 
literally put food in your 

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mouth. 
I mean, it's something that 

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people are very closely 
connected with, on a day by day 

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basis. 
But once you start going on, At 

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Rabbit Hole, you can't help but 
go down every other rabbit home 

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and obviously when you have a 
kid you want to do right by them

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and you want to kind of have 
them, bypass all the obstacles 

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and roadblocks that you faced 
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So yeah, I mean getting into 
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sense and that's kind of what 
crystal is like my wife. 

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She's all about it, man. 
Like she, she was diving into 

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this stuff long before we were 
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And she's just really been a, 
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charge on this, which I She 
because she's so passionate 

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about it. 
So it's awesome that you're 

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doing now to and the cloth 
diapers, I mean, just like the 

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the foods that we consume have 
how they have such profound 

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impact on our body responds. 
The same thing is true with all 

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these transdermal, you know, 
components that were in contact 

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with every single day, the water
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The lotions that we use the skin
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detergents that we use the 
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this stuff has an impact. 
So if you can do anything to 

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move the needle in the right 
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Well spent. 
Oh hey. 

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Men of that. 
Yeah, and it's something I'm 

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sure you've had people say this 
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You said it before. 
The average woman. 

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Has 180 chemicals on her body 
before she leaves the house in 

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the morning. 
Yeah, is insane. 

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Insane. 
And like people people don't 

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realize how easy it is to be 
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Like it's just people don't 
think that it is even a 

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question. 
I mean, people go through the 

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day and they, you know, reach 
for their deodorant, they reach 

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their toothpaste, they put on 
their shirt, they don't look to 

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see what that shirts made of or 
what's in the ingredients of 

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toothpaste or the fiber 
components in a diaper. 

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Like, people don't take the time
to look that until you have the 

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AHA moments with your Whatever 
that Catalyst for you is and 

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then you start looking at 
everything, you read every 

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single label, you read every 
single everything. 

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Oh yeah, it's like your eyes 
have become opened. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And like for me, my business 

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name, I'm actually stay-at-home 
dad now so my business. 

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I only take like a client a 
week, pretty much, but its Life 

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Starts with Food and, you know, 
maybe for you. 

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It's life starts with archery or
Life Starts With God or Life 

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starts with you name it. 
But for me my, my life just 

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Aged. 
And that was my Catalyst was 

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food. 
And like, I love food, man, and 

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the food, that changed my life. 
It was what I called Birthday 

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food. 
I grew up pretty poor and like, 

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on our birthday. 
Dad goes, what do you want me to

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make? 
And I, it was always Dad. 

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Make me a steak and a sweet 
potato. 

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Mmm. 
Like if not that day, it was mac

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and cheese or beef macaroni was 
like, you know, we had a decent 

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amount of meat, but ground meat,
I'm 38 ground meat. 

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When I was a kid was like a buck
a pound or something, so, yeah. 

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So, it was pretty easy to get at
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but but yeah, it's the catalyst 
is such an amazing thing and you

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just got to find that thing 
that's a catalyst for you and 

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everything changes. 
If you want it to, if you allow 

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it to 100% man. 
So what is your diet typically, 

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right now? 
Are you doing higher carb? 

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Lower carb, that what does that 
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I'm talking, like, if I had an 
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quarter Chris, it was a huge 
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be for me. 
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and it'll look like, maybe not 
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ginger beers that are, you know,
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maybe they're made with cane 
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animal-based diet. 
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to being able to. 
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probably, you know, 50 to 100 
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even on a keto podcast, people 
like a 50s you know Kido but for

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me, it was massive. 
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minimalist with my workouts but 
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in the past. 
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here, it's because I'm used to 
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brain and normally I can find 
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It's just amazing. 
How your In works on keto. 

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So I will probably cycle back 
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So you feel more optimal with 
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Currently mentally, I do. 

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Ya mean mentally I do but 
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I don't put on I don't put on 
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better than anybody. 
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calories in when your When your 
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kind of wanna dive into this. 
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Do you ever get on Twitter? 
Yeah, a little bit. 

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Okay, I'm not very Twitter. 
I'm not great on Twitter. 

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Like I rarely ever go on 
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this, like, massive debate going
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the low-carb Community about 
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Have you seen that? 
I've heard of it over the years.

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Yeah, so it's definitely rearing
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SPC. 
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push this, okay? 
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notion of people should strive 
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more satiety per calorie than 
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interesting. 
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pushing people towards A 
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specifically, in higher fiber, 
higher vegetation is being the 

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Pinnacle of true satiety. 
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would be the case. 
If you just said, you know, if 

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you're following a ketogenic 
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high in fat, you find more 
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get the calories in with that 
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Yeah. 
Yeah, and honestly for me, I'm a

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believer that it's like, who 
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If vegetables have a lot of 
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me, I can't eat vegetables. 
They literally cause gut pain 

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and that's more of a recent 
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But if your body doesn't absorb 
the nutrients and utilize in the

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same way, what good are they? 
So like, it's great that there's

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that they're satiating. 
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and it's such a it's I am not 
the type of person that believes

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different diet for everybody. 
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believes eat a human diet and 
you've had Bill Schindler on, 

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you've had a few other guys like
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Eat a human diet and humans, eat
animals, they will eat 

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vegetables that treat them 
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that don't treat them nicely. 
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medicine, all different types of
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and tinctures made of vegetables
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they really focus on. 
Organs and fatten and and just 

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plain old meat and I think where
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biological differences, come in,
where somebody can do really 

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lower lower fat. 
If that's what I've come to 

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realize feels pretty good for 
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these moments where probably 
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I just need all the fat in the 
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that well for me. 
I just feel best on it in the 

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we all should be eating human 
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The same way that there's lion 
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zebra food, but we need to just 
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that works for us. 
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call this High car but I'm doing
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Cracks me up but that's where I 
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Society per calorie is really 
interesting but that really 

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really matters. 
If you're really overweight, if 

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the calories you're taking in 
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vegetable oils just cause you to
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that is something like 40 or 70 
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We've taken in in the last. 
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invented, they just the amount 
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We taken a vegetable oils keeps 
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American diet. 
And it's why Why you see all 

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these people posting pictures of
the 70s, we're all skinny, 

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there's like a single fat person
in a crowd of 1,000 and then now

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you you post a picture of the 
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overweight by at least 30 
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So the satiety per calorie thing
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satiety issues. 
It's a, that's a tough. 

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That's a tough debate there, 
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That's really interesting. 
Yeah, it is interesting for sure

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and I feel like, you know, I'm 
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we should eat. 
Is appropriate that like this 

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notion that we're all different 
individual snowflakes and we 

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need to all eat different types 
of diets. 

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You know. 
Maybe it's based off of your 

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heritage and upbringing and 
maybe it's based off of your 

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blood work but it's based off 
of. 

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Yeah, jeans like I don't really 
buy into all that. 

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Yeah you're gonna definitely got
some Nuance there but it should 

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all still be within the same 
scope of a species appropriate 

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diet. 
And as a species, we're not a 

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vegetarian species like that's 
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Smack like our digestive tract 
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Designed to be consuming solely 
vegetation. 

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That's just not the way it 
works. 

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We There is some debate as to 
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considered more carnivorous or 
more Omniverse in there 

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depending on where you're 
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At the time frame in human 
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and choose one of the other, but
I feel like enough time has a 

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path as surpassed in an 
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considered quite omnivorous as a
species. 

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So, if you're eating vegetables 
that, you know, you respond well

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to and don't cause you any 
issues and the majority of your 

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intake is From quality animal 
based nutrition. 

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Then you're pretty much doing 
everything. 

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You can to hedge the bets in 
your favor. 

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Yeah, yeah, I agree with that 
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I agree with everything you said
right there completely. 

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So and I do the one thing I 
think Heritage does play some 

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role. 
Yes. 

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We're at least it's an 
interesting, you know, there's 

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certain things you here and 
there's just there's like that 

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common-sense ringer that goes 
off in your head. 

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And the Heritage one is one that
sort of made sense to me and it 

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only because it works for me 
like, I I can't eat vegetables 

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but I do great with seaweed and 
how weird is that right? 

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Like seaweed and I crave it I'm 
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there was famines in both those 
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remember hearing a couple 
different stories of people 

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surviving off of seaweed and 
things like that for periods of 

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time in those in those cultures.
But then I I crave lamb, most of

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the time, another thing that 
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of those areas and and beef. 
And Venison. 

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So those are like my go-to S own
pork man. 

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I don't know where the pork 
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I don't know who raises that and
there's two countries but I love

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pork. 
So yeah, I don't discount. 

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The Heritage component in 
regards to like some of the 

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finer details by any means like 
that, that's going to be the 

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differentiating factor between, 
you know, whether or not you 

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respond well to this vegetation 
or not, whether you spend about 

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to this type of, you know, wheat
or not, but not so much as to 

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whether or not you respond well 
to animal-based food or not. 

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Not that. 
Oh yeah, that's a great Point. 

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Yeah. 
So yeah, 100% there man know 

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what you know, how is that kind 
of shaped? 

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What you plan to do with your 
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I mean she's four months now so 
she's predominately so 

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breastfeeding. 
I'm assuming. 

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Oh yeah, I'll breastfeeding. 
She is going to be mostly 

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animal-based. 
I'm probably gonna reach out to 

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the heart and soil team or the 
ancestral team and find out what

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they've done Weston a price. 
I'll reach out to them and get 

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all the information I can from 
them and Yeah, that's going to 

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be if she ever, lets me look at 
Instagram ever again because she

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does not the moment. 
I look at my phone, she decides 

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she's upset. 
So if I can ever reach out to 

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different people, that I've met 
over the years, who have 

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children, who do more of a of an
animal-based paleo for sure, 

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diet that's going to be, how are
babies raised and I love, 

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everybody loves raw milk right 
now. 

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I love raw milk, but I can't 
tolerate Dairy at all and no 

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matter what I try, I try I've 
gained and lost the same 10 

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pounds from from incorporating 
all the all the different Rod 

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Aires and it never works from 
me. 

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So it's great that people call 
it nutritious, but it just isn't

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for me. 
And if that works for piper then

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great, I'm gonna get, I'm gonna,
you know, scour the globe for 

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raw milk into. 
But if it does, it'll it's not 

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food. 
If it's, if it doesn't work for 

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you, it's just not food. 
I'm not going to eat a rock on 

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the ground. 
I'm not going to have dairy 

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anymore. 
It doesn't treat me well. 

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Yeah, so that makes sense again 
I we've been I don't remember 

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even when we introduced real 
food for rigel because he's been

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me still breastfeeding but like 
we started bringing in some 

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foods. 
I don't know what month Mark 

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that was but I mean he's eaten 
just all quality real food since

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and he's responded. 
Perfect all over like he loves. 

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He loves it man. 
Like he he'll eat School, some 

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raw like, Like pâté, he'll eat 
not raw, pork butt. 

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Pork pot a. 
He'll have a bison. 

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You'll have venison. 
All the different types of 

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meats. 
Bone, broth, bone marrow. 

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Yeah, stuff. 
And like, that's awesome. 

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None of the stuff that you see 
on a grocery store show for in 

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the baby. 
I like the food that they're 

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feeding babies and infants is 
just it's just not food. 

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So from a developmental 
standpoint like as their brain 

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is truly developing at an 
exponential rate in these early 

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phases. 
Like the last thing you want to 

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be doing is depriving them. 
Of all the quality nutrition. 

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That would be found in real food
and breast milk to wean them off

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on some type of formula lid, you
know. 

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Yeah, juice Blend whoever 
decided that it was the, the 

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first foods for a baby should 
be, like, pureed kale. 

448
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,800
Yeah. 
I don't know if you've traveled 

449
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,700
much, but like, we were in Spain
years ago is one of our first 

450
00:22:56,700 --> 00:23:01,200
big, big trips abroad, and I was
big on veggies, and I had like, 

451
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:03,300
moderate meat intake and huge on
veggies. 

452
00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:07,500
I was trying to find kale We're 
across that country and it 

453
00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:10,500
wasn't until we found the 
Northwestern part of Spain and 

454
00:23:10,500 --> 00:23:12,800
Galicia. 
There are just backyards full of

455
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:13,700
kale. 
Like they didn't have a 

456
00:23:13,708 --> 00:23:16,300
backyard, they had kale. 
And I finally was at a 

457
00:23:16,308 --> 00:23:19,600
restaurant asking about it and 
they would, they looked at me 

458
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,400
like discussed it and said, why 
would you eat that? 

459
00:23:22,900 --> 00:23:26,700
I said, why are you growing it? 
They said, that's pit. 

460
00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:31,600
That's food for our pigs. 
So they don't eat the like and 

461
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,300
they're one of the healthiest 
countries in the world. 

462
00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:35,200
Consistently, they have the 
longest lifespan, maybe not the 

463
00:23:35,208 --> 00:23:37,900
healthiest but they have the 
longest lifespan out of most 

464
00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:42,000
countries. 
If I'm trying to think, if I'm 

465
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,800
accurate on that, it's either 
they have the healthiest life's 

466
00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:47,500
lives or they have the longest 
one of the longest lifespan that

467
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,600
remember, which but they don't 
care about vegetables. 

468
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,100
It wasn't until I got into 
Madrid that I found a place that

469
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,700
just served a plate of 
vegetables and it was mostly 

470
00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:58,600
Peppers. 
Not even that many. 

471
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,800
Other greens so it's they just 
don't eat that. 

472
00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:04,100
They drink their coffee. 
They have some wine here, and 

473
00:24:04,100 --> 00:24:07,900
there and, and they, and they 
eat lots of animals for the most

474
00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:10,900
part. 
It's just interesting. 

475
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:15,100
So many other cultures do that 
and we think they should be 

476
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:17,700
dying at 50 and we're dying at 
50. 

477
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,600
So, yeah, it's definitely 
interesting. 

478
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,000
When you start peeling the 
curtain back on, you know what 

479
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,700
is working and what is not 
working if it shouldn't take a 

480
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:30,300
scholar to recognize that. 
Americans as a whole are doing 

481
00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:34,900
is clearly not working, but not 
that, for whatever reason seems 

482
00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:39,000
to be hard to hard to get the 
head around. 

483
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,000
When you were doing that the 
high vegetation. 

484
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,500
Like what? 
I guess your body was responding

485
00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:46,600
well to it that that point. 
Yeah. 

486
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,500
Back then I was feeling fine 
from it. 

487
00:24:48,500 --> 00:24:50,400
What? 
What happens to me and I knew 

488
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:55,800
this at the time. 
I don't feel well from raw 

489
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:59,400
vegetables usually and I was 
starting a And I started with a 

490
00:24:59,408 --> 00:25:01,500
new doctor who does something 
called nutrition response 

491
00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:04,800
testing, and he muscle test, the
body using applied Kinesiology, 

492
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,700
and he was having me on a detox 
protocol. 

493
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:12,100
And I've I detox very hard and I
felt like crap and I started 

494
00:25:12,100 --> 00:25:13,800
craving vegetables. 
I was making these green 

495
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,400
smoothies three, four, five days
in and my body was like, okay, 

496
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,800
you feel good? 
Now, let's stop the green 

497
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,600
smoothies and it was like four 
or five weeks before I finally 

498
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,200
stopped it. 
And all of my old symptoms from 

499
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,300
pre paleo came back. 
I was bloated distended to where

500
00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:31,500
I couldn't. 
My feet barely I just felt 

501
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:34,200
horrible and ever since then, I 
couldn't reincorporate 

502
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,500
vegetables back in. 
So I dove right in the 

503
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,800
carnivore, right then and really
try dot carnivore hardcore, 

504
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,900
which is what got me into 
pemmican, which we've talked 

505
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:48,400
about as well in the past and it
just like it just sent me down a

506
00:25:48,408 --> 00:25:49,900
whole different path of 
realizing. 

507
00:25:49,900 --> 00:25:51,800
Okay. 
I think, I think I might have 

508
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,900
been, you know, a little off on 
what I felt was Necessities in 

509
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:58,500
our diet and it's just God 
blesses you with these little 

510
00:25:58,700 --> 00:26:01,600
Burdens that change the 
directive, your directory 

511
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,600
trajectory of your life and 
having vegetables wreck. 

512
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,300
My gut was one of those things 
that really changed me for the 

513
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,000
better. 
And really just made me a 

514
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:13,200
healthier happier person after 
already being healthy and happy 

515
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,400
for seven or eight years. 
So when it comes to like 

516
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,300
carnivore like people and then 
that that hold dietary protocol 

517
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:22,700
has gained tremendous momentum 
of the past few years. 

518
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:24,900
Yeah. 
Do you feel like there is any 

519
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,900
adverse affect long-term like a 
You're doing carnivore. 

520
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,600
Obviously your gut microbiome is
going to change within a few 

521
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,900
weeks and then if you maintain 
that style of eating for months 

522
00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:40,000
on end or years on end, do you 
think that is hindering one's 

523
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:44,000
ability to basically replenish 
that gut microbiomes to it? 

524
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,100
They would be able to tolerate 
plants. 

525
00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:49,200
Any good response or is that 
just something? 

526
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,700
That is a non-issue in the soon.
As you bring the plans back in 

527
00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:54,700
their body, should in theory, 
you know, be able to up regulate

528
00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,900
those. 
Those microbiome Pathways to be 

529
00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,500
able to handle that. 
No problem at all. 

530
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,500
So, that's a great question and 
I think it's different for 

531
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:05,900
everybody. 
The, the assumption is that we 

532
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:10,400
know that we have to have 
certain things in our gut 

533
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:12,400
microbiome and I haven't 
researched the microbiome for a 

534
00:27:12,408 --> 00:27:15,700
couple years, but for the 
longest time, everybody who told

535
00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:18,700
you absolutes about the gut 
microbiome would then follow up 

536
00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:21,400
that statement with, but it's 
still the wild west. 

537
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,800
We have no idea. 
Yeah, but they would, they would

538
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,200
speak in absolutes but then they
would say it's the wild webs 

539
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,200
West, and they would say, you 
have to have this big huge 

540
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,400
diverse microbiome. 
But they don't have proof for 

541
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,400
that. 
I think I and somebody might 

542
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,000
call us out on this for me 
saying this on your podcast, I 

543
00:27:38,008 --> 00:27:40,400
apologize. 
It's been a while since I've 

544
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:44,100
fucked it up but I just kind of 
gave up on trying to understand 

545
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,500
anything about the gut 
microbiome. 

546
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,000
I just completely gave it up 
because all the things that I 

547
00:27:51,008 --> 00:27:52,700
was told. 
I was supposed to eat to help my

548
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,200
gut microbiome hurt me. 
Yeah, and that's all it takes 

549
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,300
for me to say. 
Yeah, I guess I guess 

550
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:00,400
something's wrong there and I 
don't think it's me. 

551
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,700
It's wrong. 
Because I hear it time and time 

552
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:08,300
again and I guess to answer your
question. 

553
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,600
It. 
I've had people I used to coach 

554
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,500
the doctor's office and I had 
people that they were told eat 

555
00:28:15,500 --> 00:28:17,500
tons and tons of fiber, the 
things that are supposed to help

556
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:21,800
your gut microbiome and it I 
would tell them total opposite 

557
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,600
and all of their symptoms would 
clear up. 

558
00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:27,200
Does that mean it healed them? 
No, they just stopped agitating 

559
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,800
it. 
I don't know. 

560
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,000
I don't know if they'll ever 
heal. 

561
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,300
I don't know. 
Maybe they've had that, you 

562
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,000
know, 50 60 year old people, 
somebody's grandma that had to 

563
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,000
go carnivore because her gut was
so bad. 

564
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,300
And I just don't know if they'll
ever heal from that. 

565
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,100
I think they can. 
I'm not the guy to help with 

566
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,900
that. 
I wish I was better on that. 

567
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:47,300
I have people ask me the 
craziest things. 

568
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:50,800
I'm like, can someone just asked
me about, like, what's a healthy

569
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,000
diet? 
I can write that down in the 

570
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,800
half a page. 
Yeah, I mean for me, it makes 

571
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,100
intuitive sense that. 
If you consume a broad diversity

572
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:01,700
of foods, you would likely need 
to have a pretty diverse gut 

573
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:04,400
microbiome. 
Whereas if you don't eat a 

574
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,700
pretty vast spectrum of 
different foods, you probably 

575
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:09,500
don't need a ton of guts. 
Microbial, diversity. 

576
00:29:09,900 --> 00:29:13,100
And yeah, I mean I don't really 
eat a lot of variety like I eat,

577
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,600
you know, meets a taquito brick.
And once in a blue moon, I have 

578
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,400
some veggies and for them I 
don't think I need a ton of 

579
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:22,800
variety in my gut microbiome and
my gut never really gives me the

580
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,100
issue. 
So I think I'm just gonna keep 

581
00:29:24,100 --> 00:29:25,800
doing. 
I'm doing right? 

582
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,900
Yeah, I'm that's exactly. 
That's like the best. 

583
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:29,600
I wish I could have said what 
you said, right? 

584
00:29:30,100 --> 00:29:33,900
So but something real 
interesting there is, I can't 

585
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:36,500
remember if it's the Masai or 
which, Which tribes in Africa 

586
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:38,900
that dr. 
Anthony Stand, dr. 

587
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:41,900
Paul saladino, went and visited 
along with a couple other 

588
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:43,000
people. 
I can't remember their names. 

589
00:29:44,100 --> 00:29:47,800
But when, when those people have
their microbiome tested, they 

590
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,800
are some of the most diverse in 
the planet. 

591
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:55,900
And these people really only eat
animals and maybe it's because 

592
00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:00,300
they are Barefoot through the, 
you know, in the dirt all the 

593
00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,200
time or maybe they've never harm
their body with all the 

594
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,300
chemicals that we do. 
I don't know what the, what the,

595
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:09,600
what the answer is to, why their
microbiome Is so diverse, but it

596
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,800
is far more. 
Diverse anybody here in the US 

597
00:30:12,100 --> 00:30:16,400
and they eat far less foods than
we would eat here. 

598
00:30:16,700 --> 00:30:18,300
Yeah, it's interesting. 
I did not know that I would 

599
00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,400
imagine, they're probably not 
taken near the antibiotics that 

600
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,300
we are. 
The probably just not subjected 

601
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:24,700
to near the chemical of the we 
are. 

602
00:30:25,100 --> 00:30:25,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

603
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,000
That's probably a big part of it
that I would. 

604
00:30:28,300 --> 00:30:30,500
We always forget the chemical 
load, how massive that is. 

605
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,700
And also, the foods we eat here.
I mean the amount of if you buy 

606
00:30:34,700 --> 00:30:38,300
any kind of meat at the store, 
they're fed antibiotics. 

607
00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:41,200
Yeah, cow is fed an antibiotic 
or that's treated with an 

608
00:30:41,208 --> 00:30:45,300
antibiotic to help it. 
Speaking of satiety per calorie,

609
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:48,500
it helps them, get fatter on 
fewer calories. 

610
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,400
So most cattle if it's just 
store-bought, not grass-fed and 

611
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,400
stuff. 
It's treated with antibiotics at

612
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,700
some point in their life for 
that reason, if not the whole 

613
00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:01,500
end of their life. 
So we have to be ingesting that 

614
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:04,400
some, you know, it has to be 
transferring to us at least a 

615
00:31:04,408 --> 00:31:05,800
little bit. 
And I think there are studies 

616
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,400
that show that, but I'm not 
positive. 

617
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,300
If if I could, if my answer 
keeps coming up as I'm not 

618
00:31:12,300 --> 00:31:15,700
positive, it's because four 
months of being a dad to what I 

619
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,200
think is a highly sensitive 
child. 

620
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
That's just burnt my brain to 
bits. 

621
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,600
We'll talk about that, man. 
We were kind of emailing back 

622
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,200
and forth prior to us, jumping 
on the recording but what is 

623
00:31:25,500 --> 00:31:26,700
what is a highly sensitive 
child? 

624
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,600
Like what does that even defined
as yeah. 

625
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,700
So I literally just figured this
out a few days ago. 

626
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:36,300
If this is what my baby is and 
and and I want I'm going to 

627
00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:38,200
explain this then I'm going to 
have a something to say to 

628
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,300
parents that might feel. 
They have this because it is one

629
00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:43,000
of the loneliest things you can 
go through. 

630
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,400
So, and I'm not saying that 
lately at all. 

631
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,200
It really is one of the 
loneliest feelings, you can go 

632
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,600
through as a new parent. 
So highly sensitive child. 

633
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,700
From what I understand, they are
the child that like at any 

634
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:01,600
moment, they are hot or cold. 
They are the Sour Patch Kid and 

635
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,200
not, just like, happy laughing. 
And then moments later, you 

636
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,700
didn't do anything different and
that baby is screaming in your 

637
00:32:08,708 --> 00:32:11,500
face. 
And it's not, I don't, I don't 

638
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,900
believe colic is really a thing.
I believe colic is something's 

639
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,400
wrong and the babies telling 
you. 

640
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,900
Yeah. 
And so I would never consider my

641
00:32:21,900 --> 00:32:25,600
baby colicky because she is 
super happy so often we can 

642
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,100
settle her very fast. 
But man, she really screams 

643
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:33,800
changes in things. 
If she's around a large group of

644
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:38,600
people that are loud. 
She's really struggles to handle

645
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,200
it. 
It's very similar to, if you 

646
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800
know anybody, that's highly 
sensitive in general, where they

647
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,700
don't like crowds, they don't 
like things because the noise 

648
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,700
bothers them. 
You have a lot of those same 

649
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:54,500
things with children, I'm not 
doing this Justice the for the 

650
00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:59,700
people listening, if you look up
on Instagram, highly sensitive 

651
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:01,400
family. 
The lady's name is Natalie. 

652
00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:05,200
She has so many different post 
that just explain if you're 

653
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800
going through this, you will 
know when you hear her post, 

654
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:13,700
when you hear her videos talking
about this and it for the people

655
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:18,900
that Are just like trying to 
talk to friends and saying oh 

656
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,300
man it my baby is really tough 
for this or that reason and the 

657
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:24,400
answer that you're getting from 
all these other parents are just

658
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,700
always just babies. 
I can guarantee you that person 

659
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,900
does not have a highly sensitive
baby, if they're if they're 

660
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:34,000
answer is us, just what kids do?
That's just what babies do and 

661
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,000
it is the most lonely thing. 
When that's all the answers you 

662
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,700
keep getting. 
And finally I found one or two 

663
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:46,000
other friends that that Have 
told me like, oh man Mike this 

664
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,600
is exactly how our child was and
I immediately apologized for not

665
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,900
being more helpful and more 
sensitive to those friends 

666
00:33:53,900 --> 00:34:00,000
because I'm telling you it, I 
have never cried so much in 38 

667
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,600
years of life. 
As I have in the last four 

668
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:05,300
months, just over stress. 
I didn't know you could cry from

669
00:34:05,300 --> 00:34:07,100
stress. 
Like I, that wasn't something 

670
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:10,600
that happened to me maybe twice 
ever my life, like, you know, 

671
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,500
before my marriage stuff like 
that, you know, dealing with 

672
00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:14,500
family issues and stuff. 
That's it. 

673
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:18,100
So I just want any Mom and Dad 
out there. 

674
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:20,600
That's dealing with what they 
think is a highly sensitive 

675
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,400
child to know. 
You are not alone. 

676
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,100
It is as hard as you think it 
is. 

677
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:31,100
You are not a bad parent. 
This baby literally was made for

678
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:33,699
you from you. 
God, gave you this child. 

679
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:37,500
Don't ever think that you aren't
doing a great job. 

680
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:39,699
I have yelled holding my baby, 
my arms. 

681
00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:43,100
I've yelled just to quiet her. 
I have to match. 

682
00:34:43,500 --> 00:34:48,600
Or or overtake her yelling to 
get her to snap out of here 

683
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,400
yelling. 
And then she just is like oh oh 

684
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:54,300
my bad dad my bad. 
And that sounds crazy to people.

685
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:58,500
I have my shooting earmuffs 
thankfully. 

686
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:01,600
The baby Piper's really calm 
down the last couple weeks. 

687
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:04,700
Her yelling isn't as loud when 
she yells, but I've had to do 

688
00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:09,800
that to just be able to tolerate
the amount of noise. 

689
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,400
She puts off sometimes and the 
other thing, highly sensitive. 

690
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,700
Our crazy needy. 
I've said, she won't let me look

691
00:35:17,700 --> 00:35:21,400
at my phone and that's no joke. 
If I'm holding her and I just 

692
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,700
reached down to respond to a 
text. 

693
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:25,900
She starts getting mad and 
fidgety if she's playing and I'm

694
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,700
not just sitting watching her. 
She gets mad. 

695
00:35:29,300 --> 00:35:33,700
So they are super needy and it's
it's a blessing, it will be a 

696
00:35:33,707 --> 00:35:36,400
blessing because all the things 
I've heard all the things I've 

697
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:40,100
read since I figure this out is 
the more needy a child is when 

698
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,400
you give them all the love and 
attention they need which is a 

699
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,600
lot. 
They tend to be the most 

700
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,700
independent as they age. 
So what is that? 

701
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,200
I just want to reiterate like, 
Mom and Dad's if you're going 

702
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,800
through this, I know. 
No, all you want is to 

703
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,100
commiserate it just just knowing
somebody else has gone through 

704
00:35:58,100 --> 00:36:00,600
it to the extent that you have 
just feels better. 

705
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,600
You were made for this child and
that child was made for you. 

706
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,300
So don't ever think you're not 
doing an amazing job. 

707
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:12,000
Awesome, man, what do you think 
causes that phenomena? 

708
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,500
Any idea someday God will tell 
me. 

709
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,800
I just don't know. 
I thought she was just kind of 

710
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,700
advanced and like she's you can 
tell she's thinking you can tell

711
00:36:24,700 --> 00:36:27,300
she's she's like already you 
know she was rolling over since 

712
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,900
she was like like, two months 
old or something. 

713
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,000
She's just way ahead of all the 
markers. 

714
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,800
I thought that was all it is. 
And my mom who, you know, seven 

715
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,400
grandkids raised, three kids had
seven brothers, all the nieces 

716
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,700
and nephews. 
She never said anything to me. 

717
00:36:42,707 --> 00:36:44,100
And I finally, just A few weeks 
ago. 

718
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,000
Said mom is she like, is she 
louder than others? 

719
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,000
Is she more needy than others? 
And my mom was like. 

720
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,400
Oh yeah. 
So so I, she just wasn't even 

721
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,900
giving me the nod that like, 
hey, Mike, you're doing a great 

722
00:36:55,900 --> 00:36:58,300
job there you. 
She was just you know, she 

723
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:00,100
didn't know she needed to tell 
me that I guess. 

724
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:07,000
Yeah, but yeah, I I really just 
thought it was because she was 

725
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,900
like an advanced baby like a 
really intelligent baby, not 

726
00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:13,300
that they aren't all but she 
would she's was born with. 

727
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:16,600
Meds, she's never been injected 
with anything so she's she 

728
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,500
doesn't have anything Weighing 
on her immune system. 

729
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:21,100
She doesn't have any anything 
she has to get over. 

730
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:22,800
I just thought it was that kind 
of stuff. 

731
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,400
Yeah. 
And it's just not it turns out 

732
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,300
that this can happen to any 
baby. 

733
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,800
That's interesting. 
I'm curious to see like, when 

734
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,200
you start introducing foods, how
certain foods impact her overall

735
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,700
demeanor. 
Yeah. 

736
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:38,400
Yeah, I'm interested in that 
too. 

737
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,500
I'm really excited for that 
because my poor wife. 

738
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:43,900
She the piper won't even Take a 
bottle. 

739
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,200
She doesn't she refuses bottles 
for the most part and even, you 

740
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,900
know, we're using breast milk in
it. 

741
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800
Yeah. 
So it's a tough, a tough go at 

742
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,100
it. 
My wife is the one working and 

743
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:55,800
she works from home, but she is 
constantly. 

744
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:58,700
You know, coming back in the 
room from the office and trying 

745
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:02,100
to feed the baby and between she
can she can tell the yell the 

746
00:38:02,100 --> 00:38:05,000
screen that's happening. 
So she comes in and helps and 

747
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,700
yeah, it's it'll be it'll be 
fun. 

748
00:38:09,300 --> 00:38:12,000
And now I know that you're 
already doing a lot of the same 

749
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,100
foods that I'll be doing so that
I'll just Reach out to you for 

750
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:16,400
some advice on that one. 
Yeah, no for sure man. 

751
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:20,400
I mean it's been super it's been
really easy for us as far as 

752
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,800
introducing the foods you like 
we started out with just like 

753
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,600
bone marrow. 
I think was very first food and 

754
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:30,000
we just yeah you know have 
everything really soft moist and

755
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200
like easy like cut in small 
pieces we don't we don't only 

756
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,200
blend anything up that we don't 
you know, make it like unto a 

757
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,100
mixer thing. 
We just cut it real small, let 

758
00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:42,300
him feed himself because I feel 
like I feel like a lot of the 

759
00:38:42,300 --> 00:38:45,000
choking hazards happen. 
When people try to feed their 

760
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,200
baby, where's if you just let 
the baby feeding themselves, 

761
00:38:47,500 --> 00:38:50,700
they're going to be much more 
likely to just know when they're

762
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,400
needed to take a little bite. 
No one went to swallow, all that

763
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,100
kind of stuff. 
Yeah, yeah. 

764
00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:56,600
The baby do that on their own is
key. 

765
00:38:57,300 --> 00:39:00,000
There's a, there's another 
Instagram account that mean, 

766
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,400
it's really like, Instagrams. 
Might like my savior right now 

767
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,000
for finding stuff on track 
babies, I think is what they're 

768
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,700
called. 
They're really in line with how 

769
00:39:07,700 --> 00:39:09,800
I am on. 
I like we don't have swings. 

770
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,300
We all of our toys are like 
what? 

771
00:39:11,300 --> 00:39:13,300
Montessori wooden toys and stuff
like that before. 

772
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,900
Or beds and all the things, but 
it's just nice to have people 

773
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:21,400
that are in line in alignment 
with you to follow and to get 

774
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,500
information from and reach out 
to if you need to. 

775
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,500
So they do a lot of that. 
They talked a lot about that and

776
00:39:26,500 --> 00:39:31,900
about feeding kids. 
And it's just it really is It's 

777
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,900
just intuitive. 
Like if you just think, what 

778
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:36,800
would what we have done a 
thousand years ago. 

779
00:39:36,900 --> 00:39:38,600
Yeah. 
And then do that. 

780
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,800
And that's you're going to be on
track most of the time when you 

781
00:39:40,808 --> 00:39:42,900
do that. 
It is kind of lonely, though, 

782
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:45,800
man. 
Because like, if people and it's

783
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,800
same concept is like when you go
to an event and you're the only 

784
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,000
person that is eaten Ketone. 
People should look at you funny.

785
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:54,700
Like when you have a kid and you
can all wooden toys, you don't 

786
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:56,700
have swings, you don't have 
jumpers, like, you have all 

787
00:39:56,700 --> 00:40:00,800
this, you know, basic stuff and 
then people gift to you. 

788
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,000
Like these plastic toys that 
light up and spin around and 

789
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,800
shake your baby and all kinds of
weird stuff. 

790
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:11,700
It's like you don't use it like 
you don't ya their toys away and

791
00:40:11,700 --> 00:40:13,900
people like take offense to that
but it's like there's a reason I

792
00:40:13,908 --> 00:40:15,700
don't have these toys, you know?
Yep. 

793
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:20,900
Yeah it's all those blinking and
noisy toys are akin to us on a 

794
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:23,100
cellphone when we get addicted 
to Facebook and stuff. 

795
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:24,800
It's that same thing for 
children. 

796
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Yeah. 
Which makes screens that much 

797
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,900
worse for babies? 
You know, we'll have as well. 

798
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:32,100
Watch it. 
TV show. 

799
00:40:32,100 --> 00:40:34,400
And then when it goes, we always
have the baby blocked from the 

800
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,300
view the TV. 
The screensaver goes on the TV 

801
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:43,300
and she just stares at it. 
Yeah, it's just I mean what's 

802
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,700
different from that from and 
looking out the window, it's 

803
00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:47,400
really odd and she will just 
stare. 

804
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,700
The colors are so bright and 
Vivid that it messes with her. 

805
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,000
So that's there's something 
wrong there. 

806
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,600
Something odd now, for sure, 
man. 

807
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,000
There's I don't know you'd like 
really protective and you don't 

808
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,800
want to play this like 
superiority card like hey I'm 

809
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:02,400
doing this right. 
Right and all you other parents 

810
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,900
didn't wrong. 
The same sounds like when you 

811
00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:07,900
know, you know, and you just 
simply want to do, right? 

812
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:10,400
And it's like, I'm trying to be 
offensive to people but like, 

813
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,400
you know, you just need to 
surround yourself with people 

814
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,000
that get it, you know? 
Hmm. 

815
00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:17,100
Yeah. 
And people do take offense which

816
00:41:17,100 --> 00:41:21,000
is a bummer but generally 
generally it's the same as when 

817
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:22,300
people are jealous or something 
like that. 

818
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,300
It's because they see something 
you're doing that. 

819
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:28,800
They would like to do but they 
don't want to ever Do it. 

820
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:34,100
It's too hard too much work, 
whatever and that's okay, but 

821
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:38,800
it's still a bummer, it takes a 
lot to get used to the comments.

822
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,700
You get from people and the 
looks and all the things. 

823
00:41:41,700 --> 00:41:45,800
And I like, I eat raw meat, most
of the time now, like just I pop

824
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
open a pack of ground meat, or 
ground, pork or something and I 

825
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,200
just eat it as is and like, 
people think that's so nuts and 

826
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:57,900
I most people have eaten tartar 
or car or what is carpaccio. 

827
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,400
Most people have eaten that kind
of stuff, or a lot of people 

828
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,600
have people have eaten Sushi and
yeah, if you, I don't even know 

829
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,700
a restaurant, I can go to 
anywhere in the Pittsburgh area 

830
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:10,100
that would give me just a plate 
of raw meat, if I ask them maybe

831
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:14,300
a couple would, but yeah, it's 
weird man. 

832
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,700
And honestly, like, I think, you
know, like, you just know you 

833
00:42:18,700 --> 00:42:20,500
might like, you know, 
everybody's gonna respond well 

834
00:42:20,500 --> 00:42:22,200
to it or not. 
And then you can act accordingly

835
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,000
that people that don't have a. 
Most people are not in tune with

836
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,700
their body at all, they don't 
know. 

837
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,700
I mean, they just That if they 
ate raw food their raw meat, 

838
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:33,600
specifically, their body would 
just like go into cardiac arrest

839
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,000
or something like a man. 
Yeah, the way it works. 

840
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:38,600
Yeah. 
It's another one of those big 

841
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,800
lies. 
We've been told that raw foods 

842
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,300
are going to kill you but 
meanwhile more people die from 

843
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:52,100
from Dirty vegetables a year by 
far then than anybody does from 

844
00:42:52,100 --> 00:42:53,700
from raw meat. 
Yeah. 

845
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,900
Now, you got eaten raw pork and 
chicken too, or just from be so,

846
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,300
I do eat raw pork as well, but I
am very strict with my pork 

847
00:43:02,300 --> 00:43:06,200
because I'm a big believer in in
poof has being something. 

848
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:11,500
We should avoid High proof of 
foods and I'm aware Bortnick an 

849
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:13,300
assistant. 
Buffa's went with them. 

850
00:43:13,300 --> 00:43:14,000
Yeah. 
Right. 

851
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:18,900
You would think so, but but our 
body, we have the most acidic, 

852
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:22,300
like some of the most acidic 
stomach acid out of all animals.

853
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,000
The only ones that are equal to 
us or lower are scavengers if 

854
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,100
I'm not mistaken. 
So, how in the world is any 

855
00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:32,200
that's supposed to make it 
through our stomach? 

856
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,500
Unless we're like pounding back,
all this alkaline water and 

857
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:39,000
stuff before we eat, you know, 
your stomach is just acid, it's 

858
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,200
just it just rips stuff apart if
it wasn't for a stomach lining 

859
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:43,800
we wouldn't be here. 
Yeah. 

860
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,900
Good just burn through us man 
and it's just amazing. 

861
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:55,300
It's like All the lies we've 
been told that that a child 

862
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,700
would go, but wait a second. 
Your stomach's acid, you know, 

863
00:43:58,707 --> 00:44:01,300
like you hear these things. 
Like I don't want to get 

864
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:05,700
political but when your kid, you
hear like me and global warming 

865
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,700
going to kill us all but then 
you hear, well, CO2 is amazing 

866
00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:12,300
for trees and then you're like, 
well wait a second and all these

867
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:14,800
kids are confused by that and 
then it takes a few more years 

868
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,600
of schooling, and that's beat 
out of them. 

869
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,500
So stomach acid to me is just 
another one of those things in, 

870
00:44:21,500 --> 00:44:26,100
like, eating raw foods. 
It's just, I think, the way we 

871
00:44:26,100 --> 00:44:30,000
eat is what allows us to Be 
sick, not the things not not 

872
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000
this you know, not the raw meats
and stuff. 

873
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,600
So yeah, yeah, definitely feel 
like, you know, just consumption

874
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:40,100
of non-food items you know I got
the Twinkies and stuff they have

875
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:42,300
in the package. 
Dials is what's getting off of 

876
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,700
that and there's the lack of 
overall activity and just 

877
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:47,700
physical resilience. 
My like people are not capable 

878
00:44:47,700 --> 00:44:51,000
of moving at all. 
Like it's yeah it's kind of sad 

879
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:56,100
like I am a very sport specific 
individual when it comes to my 

880
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:57,700
Athletics like I'm a body. 
Butter. 

881
00:44:57,700 --> 00:45:00,100
I'm not going to be that great 
on a CrossFit course. 

882
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:01,800
I've been with old my own stuff 
like that. 

883
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,100
Like an obstacle course but 
that's not my area of expertise.

884
00:45:05,100 --> 00:45:08,600
But I feel very flexible and 
limber and I can move and I can 

885
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:10,900
jump and I could run and I could
I could hang I could do all 

886
00:45:10,900 --> 00:45:12,400
these things. 
It's amazing. 

887
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:16,400
How many people can't bend over 
to tie their shoes? 

888
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,700
Yet alone, you know, easily run 
a mile or walk. 

889
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:24,400
Oh yeah, you know like simply 
not been able to move, is what's

890
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,500
killing us. 
And you know, most of what I do 

891
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,200
is because I'm lazy. 
That's the that's the worst in 

892
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:35,400
funniest part about this is I I 
don't want to work out 100 hours

893
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:37,800
a week to be fit. 
And literally until I added 

894
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,700
carbs back into my life, I had a
six-pack easily for the last, 

895
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:46,200
like, 10 years or probably 11 
years and I didn't have to try 

896
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,400
for it, which was amazing to me 
when I could never have them 

897
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:52,500
before and it was just because 
it was the things I avoided, not

898
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:54,400
the things, I ate that gave me 
that six pack. 

899
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:59,600
It was it allowed my body. 
Drop fat and I'm a minimalist. 

900
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,000
Like, I'm lazy. 
That's why I eat healthy. 

901
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,500
It's why I want to raise my kid 
in a certain way that she 

902
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:10,500
doesn't need me in the future. 
I felt like, I always needed 

903
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:12,600
everybody and needed approval 
and needed this nap. 

904
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,000
I don't want my kids to be that 
way. 

905
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,900
So and it's because I'm lazy, 
but I want the best for them to 

906
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:20,900
and so it takes a lot of work up
front. 

907
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:25,300
But it requires it's like you 
put a lot of work in up front 

908
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:28,400
and then you have all the time 
left over in the end. 

909
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:34,100
So it's it's investing in your 
own time and your own just ease 

910
00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:39,300
of mind. 
So yeah, it's it's all because 

911
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:42,900
I'm lazy which is hilarious. 
So that's end that said, what 

912
00:46:42,900 --> 00:46:45,200
are some like daily 
non-negotiables? 

913
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,000
Like, what are the things that 
you make sure you get done in a 

914
00:46:47,008 --> 00:46:50,100
day so that your day is 
considered, you know, a success 

915
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,900
a one day Man. 
So right now it's just totally 

916
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:57,500
up in the air. 
It's just up in the air because 

917
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,700
like, for me, my day is, I wake 
up, I get coffee, I have an 

918
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:04,800
espresso machine. 
I like one of my hobbies is 

919
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:07,700
like, you know, coffees and all 
the different ways you can make 

920
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:10,600
coffee working on espresso 
machines if I find a broken one.

921
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,600
So, I make an espresso and then 
literally it is to the baby. 

922
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,700
I used to not usually eat until,
you know, lunch or afternoon. 

923
00:47:19,700 --> 00:47:22,500
I usually eat a little bit of I 
We're eating breakfast now at 

924
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:25,500
some point before, 11:00 and 
then I'll eat dinner. 

925
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,900
But literally for my day, it is 
that I had a coffee. 

926
00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:36,700
And I ate and I made sure. 
I like, you know, was with the 

927
00:47:36,700 --> 00:47:40,300
baby as much as possible to keep
her from affecting my wife's 

928
00:47:40,300 --> 00:47:43,700
work day constantly, which still
happens anyways. 

929
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:47,800
Yeah, prior to that it was 
literally you know, my dog just 

930
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,200
passed away a couple weeks after
we had the baby and I saw you 

931
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,200
guys lost a dog to. 
I'm really sorry to hear that 

932
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:52,700
man. 
Yeah. 

933
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:55,500
Like it's one of the hardest 
things you can lose, which is so

934
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:59,600
crazy, but I, you know, get up. 
I'd go for a walk with him, if 

935
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:02,600
it was warm weather, it It's 
really cold here. 

936
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:06,700
Near Pittsburgh PA, and we go 
for a walk. 

937
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:09,400
We whatever it. 
I always tried to read 

938
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:13,500
something. 
Everyday, I before the baby was 

939
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:16,800
here and I'd have a have some, 
any kind of thought process. 

940
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:18,800
I'd always try to pray. 
Ask God, who I'm supposed to 

941
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,000
help today, who I'm supposed to 
pray for today. 

942
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,700
I just pray that he puts 
somebody in my life that I could

943
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:26,800
affect in some way. 
And if that wasn't the case, 

944
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,500
just bring somebody up to mind 
that I could pray for, or that I

945
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:32,600
could reach out to and texting. 
See if they're okay. 

946
00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,400
And that was, that was like that
makes a day amazing. 

947
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:37,900
Yeah. 
Just that one little thing. 

948
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:42,000
They're just who you can pray 
for and and yeah and who can 

949
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
help that day. 
I like that man being like a 

950
00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:49,700
very intentionally selfless and 
kind of like forcing some degree

951
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:51,800
of gratitude and your day here 
at the been a think is 

952
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,500
absolutely Paramount. 
Yeah. 

953
00:48:53,500 --> 00:48:56,400
And I think that's important 
because I'm the first one to say

954
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,700
that that all things we do are 
selfish. 

955
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:02,600
Like there's very few people who
don't have The selfish Gene in 

956
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,300
my wife is one of them. 
And I think most humans are 

957
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:08,500
like, hey, I like to volunteer 
because it makes me feel good. 

958
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,700
It's a selfish act, that helps 
other people God created this 

959
00:49:11,700 --> 00:49:13,400
way. 
It should think should feel 

960
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,900
good. 
Yeah, she's doing doing nice 

961
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:17,500
things. 
Should feel good and I used to 

962
00:49:17,508 --> 00:49:20,600
feel guilty about like when I 
had the realization that like, 

963
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,800
no, I'm very selfish. 
I'm doing all these things 

964
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,800
because I want them in my life. 
I'm doing all these things. 

965
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:32,000
Be because of me, you know, and 
it people get really mad when I 

966
00:49:32,008 --> 00:49:34,800
bring that up, and I'm like 
every act as a selfish act 

967
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,300
because well, I did something 
for somebody because I didn't 

968
00:49:39,300 --> 00:49:40,400
want to hear them complain about
it. 

969
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,900
Well there you go. 
Is a selfish act. 

970
00:49:41,900 --> 00:49:43,100
You didn't want to get complain 
to. 

971
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,900
Yes. 
It's kind of a funny thought 

972
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:50,700
there but it it's just a fun way
to have a different perspective 

973
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:54,900
on life and realize it like 
we're never perfect where 

974
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,800
everything is about. 
Us, and it shouldn't be, you 

975
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,500
know, it just, it's a reminder 
that we really should try to 

976
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:04,500
make things about other people. 
And I'm horrible at that, man. 

977
00:50:04,900 --> 00:50:09,100
So this is all to like, let 
people know we're all a work in 

978
00:50:09,100 --> 00:50:12,100
progress and there's, I'll just 
change the perspective. 

979
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:14,700
I feel like if, you know, you 
know, what, you can improve on 

980
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:16,500
and then you're just conscious 
of it throughout the day. 

981
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,700
What's your sleep in? 
Like, as far as you know, since 

982
00:50:19,700 --> 00:50:23,200
since Piper's been in the 
picture as your sleep, gun 

983
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,600
dwindled, down to nothing man. 
So the first couple weeks, my 

984
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,900
wife, She had, she definitely 
had some some healing to do 

985
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:35,400
afterwards. 
So it was really me. 

986
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:40,400
Taking care of my wife, my dog, 
and my baby all on my own I 

987
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,100
don't for whatever reason, my 
family just they were real busy 

988
00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,500
at the same time and didn't have
the ability to come help us too 

989
00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:47,200
much. 
My mother-in-law was able to 

990
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:50,900
help out a decent amount but 
then she left for for they go to

991
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:55,700
south for the winter and so my 
sleep I thought it was fine. 

992
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,100
So a picture for me of me from 
from like a week in. 

993
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,700
I look dead, man. 
I looked dead. 

994
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:09,400
I dropped down to like, I'm 
normally to 65 or so, but during

995
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,100
the pregnancy, I gained a little
weight because I was 

996
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:13,900
incorporating carbs and trying 
Dairy again and I dropped down 

997
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:16,600
to like under, I'm sorry, not to
62 160. 

998
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:21,000
I dropped under 160 and in like 
a two-week period. 

999
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,000
I dropped all that weight. 
I was like I was 21 away, so my 

1000
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,400
sleep was horrible as my wife. 
I've healed up more and more, 

1001
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,000
she started taking over the 
night duties because she was 

1002
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,200
already breastfeeding anyways, 
and she was getting a better 

1003
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,100
hang of it. 
Her sleep is still just awful. 

1004
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:40,100
I feel so bad, but my sleep is 
pretty good, man. 

1005
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,300
It's, it's pretty uninterrupted,
even if I'm laying in bed with 

1006
00:51:44,300 --> 00:51:47,100
them, I'll wake up when she's 
crying for a diaper change or 

1007
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,700
something. 
Because we do use, we don't try 

1008
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:53,700
to do the diaper free stuff at 
night, which we haven't touched 

1009
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:57,000
on at all. 
But we just change. 

1010
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,000
We Put her in a cloth diapers 
and just change her butt. 

1011
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,500
I'll wake up for that. 
But the last couple nights she 

1012
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:07,100
started. 
Kind of progressing a little bit

1013
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,800
and I think she's teething, so 
that's always always trouble. 

1014
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,100
But she started progressing in 
her sleep a little bit. 

1015
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,000
And my wife was just starting to
get where she could actually 

1016
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,900
roll away from Piper. 
So that's another thing with 

1017
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:22,200
highly sensitive babies is they 
have to be touching you at 

1018
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,000
night, you cannot but she has 
never been in a crib. 

1019
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:30,700
She's never been in in like a 
somewhere else. 

1020
00:52:30,700 --> 00:52:34,100
When we're sleeping, my wife is 
lucky to roll away from her so 

1021
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:35,400
she was just able to start 
rolling away. 

1022
00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:38,200
From her with a big king-size 
bed and that baby takes up half 

1023
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,100
of it somehow. 
So I told my wife, I said, go 

1024
00:52:41,100 --> 00:52:42,900
ahead. 
I'm going to sleep in the baby's

1025
00:52:42,900 --> 00:52:46,900
room on her floor bed, that we 
got and you go ahead. 

1026
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:49,000
And when you can roll away just 
take advantage of my side of the

1027
00:52:49,008 --> 00:52:51,900
bed. 
So the last three nights I've 

1028
00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,700
been sleeping on the floor on a 
3-inch will mattress, which is 

1029
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:56,800
way more comfortable than I ever
imagined. 

1030
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:01,600
And so that's, that's been like 
my, my nights now and it's 

1031
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,600
amazing. 
It's absolutely, yeah, the 

1032
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,000
sleeps. 
Opponent for sure like like 

1033
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:09,100
we're deciding whether we co 
sleep with our with rigel. 

1034
00:53:09,500 --> 00:53:12,000
And I feel pretty selfish talk 
about selfish. 

1035
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,900
I'm definitely feel pretty 
selfish because like, you know, 

1036
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:18,300
we'll start out with him 
sometimes he'll lay in a crib 

1037
00:53:18,300 --> 00:53:20,400
for like an hour or two but as 
soon as he wakes up, he's in the

1038
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,600
bed with us last night but like 
he'll be you know on her breast 

1039
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,400
feeding and then I've got my 
mouth tape on. 

1040
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,100
I got my eye mask on. 
I got I'm like in my own little 

1041
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:33,300
cocoon man. 
Nothing's bothering me half the 

1042
00:53:33,300 --> 00:53:34,300
time. 
He's getting bigger those, like 

1043
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:36,700
he started kicking me and I Like
Feliz kicks throughout the 

1044
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:38,500
night. 
So we're obviously wake me up a 

1045
00:53:38,508 --> 00:53:40,600
little bit but crystals, 
definitely got the short end of 

1046
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:42,600
the stick on that one for sure. 
Oh man. 

1047
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,000
That it's tough. 
I don't know how my wife does 

1048
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,900
it, and then she gets up and 
works the next day. 

1049
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:50,800
I mean, she and her work. 
They are so so good about it. 

1050
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,700
And it's just her fourth week, 
back last week. 

1051
00:53:54,700 --> 00:53:57,300
So that they've been and she's a
manager. 

1052
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:01,200
She's not like, she's not like a
low man on the totem pole. 

1053
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,300
She's her bosses have just been 
so good about About her needing 

1054
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:08,200
time. 
Whatever. 

1055
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:13,500
So, it's been really great and 
she was able to take 12 or 13, 

1056
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,600
weeks off. 
Just got a line, two things 

1057
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,500
where different different 
benefits happened. 

1058
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:23,400
Where almost all of that was 
paid for aside from one week of 

1059
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,700
vacation which also was paid for
its vacation week. 

1060
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,600
So that's really cool man. 
It's really cool how it worked 

1061
00:54:28,600 --> 00:54:31,900
out but some people with highly 
sensitive babies. 

1062
00:54:31,900 --> 00:54:34,200
This Natalie lady from highly 
sensitive family. 

1063
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,800
She she wasn't able to put her 
baby down during naps. 

1064
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,000
Even that baby would start 
screaming and crying the moment,

1065
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,500
it left her body for a nap. 
So we, we got a good like we can

1066
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:47,200
put our baby down but not always
but we can. 

1067
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:55,200
So it's It's definitely, it's a 
tough one, for those kind of 

1068
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,500
people that have that have that.
And, and for our wives, for the 

1069
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:01,200
women in our lives, that just do
so much for us and so much for 

1070
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:04,400
our children. 
So that is no joke. 

1071
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:08,000
Yeah. 100% man. 
You mentioned the diaper-free 

1072
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:09,000
kind of touch on that. 
A little bit. 

1073
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:10,000
What you doing there? 
Yeah. 

1074
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,800
So diaper-free is just a fun fun
way to get people's attention 

1075
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,700
when they use that term 
diaper-free because you're still

1076
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:17,400
using diapers most of time on 
babies. 

1077
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,700
The real term is called 
elimination communication. 

1078
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:23,400
Yeah. 
And The lady that I think has a 

1079
00:55:23,408 --> 00:55:27,100
great book and a great program, 
it's called her name's Andrea 

1080
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:31,500
Andrea Olson. 
And the book is let me sit 

1081
00:55:31,500 --> 00:55:34,000
sitting right here. 
It's just it's called go 

1082
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:39,900
diaper-free. 
So essentially, you know, you 

1083
00:55:39,900 --> 00:55:41,800
have a baby long enough for you 
around babies long enough, you 

1084
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:44,600
can kind of tell the queue like 
when they cry a certain way or 

1085
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,100
make a certain noise, you know, 
they got it, they have a diaper 

1086
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,300
change or they're hungry or 
they're tired, you just start 

1087
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:54,000
picking up on that. 
The she is to really focus on 

1088
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:57,300
your baby. 
The way they do this is that it 

1089
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:59,900
just put a baby on a like pee 
pads and stuff, whatever you 

1090
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:01,300
want to do for that. 
I use. 

1091
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:05,700
We use towels just cotton towels
and You observe your baby for a 

1092
00:56:05,707 --> 00:56:08,300
certain amount of time, you 
know, an hour or so until you 

1093
00:56:08,300 --> 00:56:11,600
kind of figure out what the Q is
for the baby to pee or what the 

1094
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,600
key is for the baby to poop. 
And then when they go, you start

1095
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:20,500
making a noise like or you give 
a grunt for pooping or whatever 

1096
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:23,300
works for you. 
Pee poop. 

1097
00:56:23,300 --> 00:56:27,500
You say it out loud and then you
see, you just keep doing that 

1098
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:29,700
enough times and then you start 
to transition them when you 

1099
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:33,500
think they have to pee, or them 
over a sink or they make these 

1100
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:36,100
little Top Hat things, you can 
hold between your leg that the 

1101
00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:40,000
baby can pee or poop in. 
So that's, that's pretty much 

1102
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,300
what it is and you want to be 
somewhat consistent with it. 

1103
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:45,900
A lot of people do it. 
Just part time, they'll do it. 

1104
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:49,100
Literally I get home from work 
at, for I'll start doing this 

1105
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:51,400
between five and seven. 
I'll do it every night five to 

1106
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,000
seven, and It starts teaching 
the baby. 

1107
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,500
Well, this time of night. 
If we're going to go, we go in 

1108
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:58,300
the bathroom where we go in the 
top hat or the little potty 

1109
00:56:58,300 --> 00:57:01,900
whatever. 
And for us, it was like two 

1110
00:57:01,900 --> 00:57:04,300
weeks in, like I said, you're 
our dog. 

1111
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:06,800
Just got sick. 
And stand was going downhill. 

1112
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,900
Right? 
Before we got right before Piper

1113
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:11,000
was born. 
So, I had two weeks of taking 

1114
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,800
care of my dog, and I was just 
so overwhelmed and my wife, I've

1115
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,200
taken care of the wife of the 
dog in the baby. 

1116
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:21,000
I was so overwhelmed. 
I woke up one day and I was, I 

1117
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:24,800
think I was crying. 
I, like I said, I've cried a lot

1118
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:27,900
in the last four months. 
It's really amazing what a baby 

1119
00:57:27,900 --> 00:57:33,300
does to you. 
And I I'm just like praying to 

1120
00:57:33,308 --> 00:57:35,500
God, like, I just need a win 
God. 

1121
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:37,300
Like, what in the world? 
How am I ever supposed to just 

1122
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:39,300
diaper-free stuff? 
Because I didn't even try it 

1123
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:42,600
prior to that two week, Mark, 
and I woke up the baby just 

1124
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,000
peanuts diaper. 
That's why I was upset and I'm 

1125
00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,300
like, this is never going to 
happen. 

1126
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:49,300
Like I've never failed at 
anything, I put my mind to and 

1127
00:57:49,300 --> 00:57:52,300
it hit me, one of the things she
says is hey, if your baby peed, 

1128
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:55,500
The diaper, you can still take 
that baby to the bathroom and it

1129
00:57:55,500 --> 00:58:00,100
might be holding some so I did 
that and boom Piper peed in the 

1130
00:58:00,107 --> 00:58:02,900
bathroom. 
She peed five more times in the 

1131
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:05,900
toilet or in the in the sink 
that day and like that it was 

1132
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:07,400
just like the World opened up 
again. 

1133
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,400
And like my favorite thing to 
say about people that are just 

1134
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,700
like this is crazy. 
How in the world you're training

1135
00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:18,600
a baby to pee somewhere else and
my response to that is no, we 

1136
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,400
reach other people like we are 
taught to train babies to pee. 

1137
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,400
P, in a diaper. 
We're teaching a baby to soil 

1138
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,700
themselves. 
And that's so messed up. 

1139
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:31,400
When you think about it like, 
And when you, when you find out,

1140
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,300
who this where this data comes 
from? 

1141
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:37,200
It is the Pampers Institute. 
Yeah, tell me that's not a 

1142
00:58:37,207 --> 00:58:40,900
conflict of interest. 
Yeah. 

1143
00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:43,300
With a literally, a little 
conflict there for sure. 

1144
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:44,300
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1145
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:48,200
So in America, the average time 
in diapers is something like 2 

1146
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,000
to 3 years. 
That is on average three 

1147
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:55,000
thousand dollars in diapers. 
And in other countries babies 

1148
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:59,000
are potty trained out of diapers
by 9 to 12 months almost every 

1149
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,300
other. 
Well, Not every other country, 

1150
00:59:00,300 --> 00:59:02,300
but most almost every Asian 
culture. 

1151
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:06,600
And a lot of other countries are
like that because generally, 

1152
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:09,300
they baby where they do all the 
things that if you do them here,

1153
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,700
you're called, you're told 
you're spoiling your baby, which

1154
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:15,200
I think is also nonsense. 
You can't spoil a baby. 

1155
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,000
They have needs they cry because
that's how they tell you they 

1156
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,700
have a need. 
So this diaper-free thing is 

1157
00:59:21,700 --> 00:59:25,700
just like, You just don't teach 
your baby, that it has the soil 

1158
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:27,100
itself in a diaper and sitting 
it. 

1159
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,500
Yeah. 
And like when you have that, 

1160
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,300
again, a mind shift, a change in
perspective, you just go. 

1161
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,200
Holy crap. 
Howhow is this like so difficult

1162
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,400
to understand, right? 
And it's just so fun when you 

1163
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:44,200
hear something explain the 
different way and so, yeah, I 

1164
00:59:44,207 --> 00:59:45,100
magic. 
Don't think you're maybe the 

1165
00:59:45,100 --> 00:59:47,200
poop in a diaper. 
Yeah, you just, you just 

1166
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:51,200
teaching your baby to be more 
self-sufficient earlier on like 

1167
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,300
that's yeah, it all boils down 
to I think Well, it's still they

1168
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:56,200
still need us for it, right? 
It still sits. 

1169
00:59:56,200 --> 01:00:01,500
We're just not forcing them to 
stay in a Diaper Dirty but 

1170
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:04,800
babies are intelligent. 
Literally when she's if I'm in a

1171
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,000
car driving and she's in, she's 
in the car seat and I can tell 

1172
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,500
on, oh, she's got a p. 
I start telling her, it's okay. 

1173
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:13,800
Piper just pee and I'll clean it
up when we get there. 

1174
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,700
It's okay. 
And she still peas in her 

1175
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:18,100
diaper. 
Plenty like way a lot, but she 

1176
01:00:18,107 --> 01:00:23,500
doesn't have to sit in it ever. 
So it's just it's really Really 

1177
01:00:23,500 --> 01:00:25,600
neat. 
She knows and she responds 

1178
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:29,200
accordingly when I talked to her
and I think more babies would do

1179
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,600
this. 
If we did it more often. 

1180
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:34,100
Yeah, it definitely smarter than
people give him credit for, for 

1181
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:34,900
sure. 
Yeah. 

1182
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,400
Yeah, kind of percent. 
Man. 

1183
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,600
What does your wife think about?
This is she totally on board 

1184
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,700
with all the the baby 
biohacking. 

1185
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:44,100
I'll do it. 
Well, the diaper free stuff 

1186
01:00:44,100 --> 01:00:45,100
member. 
That's what she actually. 

1187
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:47,100
Yeah. 
Yeah, that was her idea which 

1188
01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:52,100
was just terrific. 
She's, she's any time in our, in

1189
01:00:52,100 --> 01:00:53,500
our whole. 
We've been together since We 

1190
01:00:53,500 --> 01:00:57,200
were in high school. 
So it's pretty much. 

1191
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,600
She's always been just a few 
days to a few months behind me 

1192
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,500
on something. 
So if I try something she used 

1193
01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:06,200
to fight it a lot. 
When we first went paleo, it was

1194
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,000
when we first got married like a
year in and she fought it and 

1195
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:10,900
fought it and fought it. 
She'd make dinner one night. 

1196
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:13,100
I'd say look, I'm just not 
eating it, I feel really good 

1197
01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:17,200
and I can't eat that. 
And, and she learned real fast, 

1198
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:18,900
you know, if I made dinner, we 
ate what. 

1199
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:23,000
I, what I was making if she made
dinner, I would not eat it and 

1200
01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:28,000
She corrected that pretty quick 
and figured out how I was eating

1201
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:29,500
and how we could eat together 
again. 

1202
01:01:29,500 --> 01:01:34,300
And, and next thing I know like 
a month, two months in, she's 

1203
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,200
eating, mostly paleo at home, 
but still eating junk at the 

1204
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,400
office and things. 
And, and like, I don't know, 

1205
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,400
probably eight months later, 
she's down 10 pounds Without 

1206
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,100
Really Trying anything, you 
know, still eating stuff like 

1207
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:49,300
donuts, randomly at the office. 
So, it was pretty interesting. 

1208
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,800
And then from there on out, it 
was just, she would just try 

1209
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,600
stuff, you know. 
Doesn't necessarily biohack much

1210
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,200
herself. 
I definitely do the do some 

1211
01:01:56,200 --> 01:02:01,300
biohacking and things which is 
like a fun hobby and and fun to 

1212
01:02:01,300 --> 01:02:03,400
see if your body changes from 
certain things. 

1213
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:08,400
But but yeah she she always just
kind of is in it's a weird thing

1214
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,200
to say I was gonna stay in line 
with what I'm doing. 

1215
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:15,400
But she is, she just she and I 
trust each other so much that we

1216
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,200
know if we bring something up to
the other one that we've put 

1217
01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,900
some serious thought or God's 
really laid it on my heart to do

1218
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:24,800
it. 
So We don't take things lightly 

1219
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:26,600
when we bring it to each other 
so it's really cool. 

1220
01:02:26,900 --> 01:02:28,300
That's good man, that's really 
good. 

1221
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:31,700
What's the what's the next thing
on the horizon point that you're

1222
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:36,000
excited to dive into? 
Man, I want to listen to that 

1223
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,200
podcast. 
You just did with Rob wolf. 

1224
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:39,900
Yeah. 
About homeschooling and 

1225
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:42,400
unschooling and Montessori and 
whatever else. 

1226
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:47,300
I know, I have been Green Fields
book on parenting. 

1227
01:02:47,300 --> 01:02:49,300
They just came out with. 
I really like a lot of his 

1228
01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:50,300
information. 
Have you read? 

1229
01:02:50,300 --> 01:02:53,000
I know he's got Danny Vega in 
there talking about on schooling

1230
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:55,300
and Got to look at that one yet 
but pretty much. 

1231
01:02:55,300 --> 01:02:58,600
That's, that's our next big 
thing is trying to figure out. 

1232
01:02:59,100 --> 01:03:04,200
I mean, that's, that's a ways 
off but figuring that out, I do 

1233
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:07,500
Health coaching I do, I don't 
have you ever heard of Emotion 

1234
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:11,300
Code or body code by dr. 
Bradley Nelson, huh, I'm not. 

1235
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,300
So it's a technique for 
emotional release, using muscle 

1236
01:03:14,300 --> 01:03:18,600
testing and it's it's I can do 
it from, I can do it from a 

1237
01:03:18,607 --> 01:03:20,600
distance, it's not I don't have 
to be in person with you to do 

1238
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,800
it, but that's something I still
take clients from That and the 

1239
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,700
office I stopped working at to 
be a stay-at-home Dad, they send

1240
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:29,200
patients my way, which is really
nice. 

1241
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:35,100
And so that's really just my 
right now is, is maintaining my 

1242
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:38,300
baby. 
I'm trying to trying to make 

1243
01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:42,100
sure I had just keep myself sane
by having it, you know, 

1244
01:03:42,100 --> 01:03:44,500
interviews like this or working 
with a client once or once a 

1245
01:03:44,508 --> 01:03:48,300
week or once every other week. 
And then hopefully when Piper 

1246
01:03:48,300 --> 01:03:52,100
starts becoming a little bit 
more independent, I used to do 

1247
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:55,000
when back in, Only 20. 
I felt like I needed to get some

1248
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,800
information out there and just 
help people cheer up and so 

1249
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:00,900
early 2020. 
I started doing Facebook lives 

1250
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:03,800
and and I really enjoy doing 
that talking to people like you 

1251
01:04:03,900 --> 01:04:06,200
and you know all these all these
people I look up to and these 

1252
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,400
experts and and that's something
I really enjoy. 

1253
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:13,800
So hopefully that starts starts 
back but but yeah, just staying 

1254
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,400
afloat right now man. 
Maybe maybe getting back out in 

1255
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,600
the woods. 
Hunting this coming year, making

1256
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,800
some pemmican stuff like that. 
That's my goal. 

1257
01:04:22,100 --> 01:04:22,600
Love it. 
Man. 

1258
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,000
Will definitely Let me know what
you want. 

1259
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,500
I'm doing with the schooling 
front, you know, the Montessori 

1260
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:28,400
School, home schooling, the 
unschooling. 

1261
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,000
Let's that's kind of where we're
putting a lot of our thoughts 

1262
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:32,900
right now like what direction we
want to take things there. 

1263
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:35,800
So yeah, you come across 
anything that's resourceful to 

1264
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,000
you or just beneficial to know 
by all means, man, just for that

1265
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:41,000
over to Mac. 
Yeah, well, a book, I could 

1266
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,000
recommend right now, the lady 
has two books. 

1267
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,400
The one I've read is the 
Montessori baby. 

1268
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,200
And then her next one, which 
actually was the first book she 

1269
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,800
wrote, I think is the Montessori
toddler. 

1270
01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:57,300
Just really cool information. 
Really great books, easy to 

1271
01:04:57,300 --> 01:05:00,800
follow and easy, to make you 
feel like you can do it nice. 

1272
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,700
I will definitely those Tech. 
Check those out for sure, man. 

1273
01:05:04,300 --> 01:05:06,400
Well, Mike where do people go to
learn more about you and dive 

1274
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:11,200
into your world, pretty much 
everything I do is Facebook or 

1275
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,800
Instagram. 
Its Life Starts with Food and a 

1276
01:05:14,808 --> 01:05:17,800
lot of my videos that were that 
I did on Facebook live. 

1277
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,400
A lot of those are on YouTube, I
believe, it's either Life Starts

1278
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:25,000
with Food or Life starts with 
Um, because I like to leave it 

1279
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,500
open-ended for people. 
Yeah. 

1280
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:29,900
So and that podcast coming soon,
right? 

1281
01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:31,700
Yeah. 
Hopefully, hopefully restarting 

1282
01:05:31,700 --> 01:05:34,300
the podcast. 
I did a this is a funny thing. 

1283
01:05:34,300 --> 01:05:37,400
I did a travelpod cast. 
Literally I got five or six 

1284
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:43,400
episodes in and with a friend 
and then covid hit s. 

1285
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,000
Not a good time for a chat, pod 
cast. 

1286
01:05:45,100 --> 01:05:48,700
Yeah. 
So well man, I'm excited until 

1287
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:51,200
you get cooking right now. 
I'm excited about the chapter, 

1288
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:54,100
you're in now, as a parent. 
I'm just excited to keep 

1289
01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:55,700
following along brother. 
So, keep doing what you doing, 

1290
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,600
definitely let me know because 
everything that I could do to 

1291
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,000
help and keep me posted may keep
me in the loop. 

1292
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:01,700
Yeah, I greatly appreciate you, 
man. 

1293
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:04,400
And I greatly appreciate your 
consistency and emails and what 

1294
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:05,700
you do appreciate. 
You might. 

1295
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:06,800
I'll definitely keep them 
coming. 

1296
01:06:07,500 --> 01:06:09,600
Thanks take care brother, you 
too. 

1297
01:05:53,300 --> 01:05:54,700
I'm just excited to keep 
following along brother. 

1298
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:56,700
So, keep doing what you doing, 
definitely let me know because 

1299
01:05:56,700 --> 01:05:59,400
everything that I could do to 
help and keep me posted may keep

1300
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,500
me in the loop. 
Yeah, I greatly appreciate you, 

1301
01:06:01,508 --> 01:06:02,700
man. 
And I greatly appreciate your 

1302
01:06:02,700 --> 01:06:05,400
consistency and emails and what 
you do appreciate. 

1303
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:06,400
You might. 
I'll definitely keep them 

1304
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:09,300
coming. 
Thanks take care brother, you 

1305
01:06:09,300 --> 01:06:09,600
too.
