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What's going on? 
Ladies and gents, Robert Sykes? 

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Keto, Savage not comment today. 
Haven't got special guest, 

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repeat guests. 
Jinpa Taro, and Greg Mueller. 

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They're both client are both 
clients of mine. 

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I've coached them both through a
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They both earned their Pro card,
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were amazing clients. 
I've thoroughly enjoyed working 

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with them. 
I had both them on the podcast 

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individually. 
Now, they're both deeper State 

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keto coaches. 
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on at the same time to kind of 
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philosophy. 
What they're excited about doing

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from a coaching perspective, 
talk about their prep a little 

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bits for your that hadn't heard 
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kind of introduce them a little 
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being a deeper State keto coach.
So it was a little unwieldy. 

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This is the first time I've ever
done a podcast with three people

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of which were all remotely 
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So, a little goes, a couple lag 
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it's not too distracting from 
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But again, I thoroughly enjoyed 
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I've got utmost respect for both
Jenn and Gregg. 

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I've got no doubt whatsoever 
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amazing coaches, because they're
in it for the right reasons. 

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They know their stuff and 
they're just good people. 

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So, without further Ado, sit 
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podcast conversation with gin 
and Greg 

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and we are live with. 
We got gin and Greg on the line.

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How y'all doing today? 
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Thanks. 
Doing well. 

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Is this is the first time for 
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So hopefully there's not any 
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Umm, issues, but I'm excited to 
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we've had each of them on 
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both deeper State keto. 
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we just chit chat about our 
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bit, we can also talk about 
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I did with y'all but bringing it
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perspective and value for people
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and hiring a coach, and just 
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would be really advantageous. 
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Now, they're like a diamond 
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It's a really kind of given you 
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just say what your philosophy 
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for coaching to begin with would
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I think so. 
Ladies first. 

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Jin you, you're the lucky one 
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Give like a freebie. 
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that you, and I did give the 
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ketogenic lifestyle for about 
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just the diet itself. 
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incorporating exercise into it. 
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how great it's been for me and 
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me to do. 
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I found you and your podcast 
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value that that broad. 
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able to, take my experiences, my
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feel their best. 
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there's a lot of value in the 
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that much weight and to where 
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It's pretty crazy. 
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basically, all of my life and up
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then a gained it all back and 
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gained it all back and some, and
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My Everlasting battle with the 
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the sustainability of factor 
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similarities with Jen as far as 
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gone through and kind of 
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some big lifestyle changes and 
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looking away back kind of into 
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I was a kind of overweight. 
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dirty keto, all these little 
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hopes of jumping on stage again 
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prep and maintaining a ketogenic
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of got joined up together and 
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Science kind of competition, 
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It's been very sustainable. 

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I've noticed, countless physical
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And so, it's naturally, enjoy 
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tips and tricks and everything 
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embark on a ketogenic Journey. 
But nowadays, there's so much 

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garbage, littering our store 
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TV, and it's absolutely so 
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the word, keto reads, the 
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these products on store shelves,
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That's a R Quito. 
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jump on board officially as a 
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people the opportunity to flip 
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I love it. 

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I love it. 
So you can keep them for six 

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How long did you say? 
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It's been a little over three 
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Well over three years. 
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been doing it for I guess about 
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Crystal has been doing it for 
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this evolution of the ketogenic 
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you know what the different 
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everything and it's weird 
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People in the keto space now 
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lot of momentum in the keto 
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doing all these other things and
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people to find their own way and
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that were hardcore devout keto, 
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flexible dieting or metabolic 
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keto, but I'm curious as to why 
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standpoint. 
I guess we'll start with Jen 

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again. 
We'll just go. 

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Keep going. 
Ladies first eggs. 

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No, it's been. 
The idea for me at the start was

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how can I eliminate an entire 
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I would at some point once I got
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I would reintroduce them, but it
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to do. 
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reversing. 
Dieting out of the competition 

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prep. 
I am just noticing the bloating.

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Go back to adding carbohydrates 
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aspect of it, and the reason I 
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because I on a daily have 
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natural conversations where 
they're expressing concern with 

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their gut, with their hormones, 
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And I'm just all of these 
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I really think that I could help
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Like there's just so many 
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think can help other people. 
So I really feel like it's my 

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time now to sort of pay it 
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as Good as I do. 
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And Greg, you'd you competed 
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and you've competed with Quito 
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different subsets of Quito, the 
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dirty key do this trick. 
He do, I would assume that your 

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approach in your prep and the 
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Yet. 
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those two different Journeys. 
So what why do you stay key 

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demand? 
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experiment with it at all? 
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Yeah, I actually like Jen said 
she kind of did a little trial 

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and error with reintroducing 
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I thought. 
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ketogenic for so long and I tell
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or sugar or anything like that. 
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least a couple of days and 
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you out of ketosis, but also all
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You don't have any energy or 

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lethargic you're on this. 
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coaster, you want to crash, you 
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It's like night and day. 
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targeted keto meaning that you 
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surround, your your carbohydrate
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gym session and, or after a gym 
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cyclical. 
Where are you baby? 

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Do your carbohydrate is 
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I guess if you want to be sloppy
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not really allow the amazingness
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bright as if you were strict 
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He do. 
So, that's where I'm at. 

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haven't been curious as to what 
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Like in a lot of people have 
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but I've worked with so many 
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been super strict, you know, and
like totally transformed their 

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health and their composition and
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they'll just tell me how 
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trying it because it's like, if 
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telling me this is just not 
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It kind of, you know, dissolve 
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try it. 
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anything, you know, like I don't
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My hormones are all healthy and 
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it's not broke, don't fix it, 
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I feel like if you've got a 
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humming along and that's not to 
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doing keto. 
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people that are doing pretty 
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doing like a dirty Quito and 
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that's going to increase their 

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overall caloric intake and will 
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formulated ketogenic diet, and 
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of fats proteins micronutrients.
I honestly just don't see any 

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benefit to the carbohydrates. 
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here that when I'm saying I'm 
reintroducing carbohydrates. 

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vegetables and low carbohydrate 

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like celery and cauliflower and 
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Even care. 
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like my knees, as I walk up the 
stairs, I feel like an elderly 

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woman right now and I can hear 
my knees crying. 

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other examples where I'm really 

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know I've noticed. 
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Like that's where I think my 
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more of a carnivore lifestyle, 
then, certainly than adding any 

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more carbohydrates into my diet.
Yeah. 

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It's just weird minute that this
like this, this idea that you 

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have to have carbohydrates from 
a performance, standpoint has 

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gained so much momentum over the
years. 

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Like that's just what people 
assume you have to have free 

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energy in order to fill out 
glycogen reserves and have full 

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muscles on stage two. 
Be able to do in any type of 

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endurance, work yet. 
There's just athletes after 

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athletes after athletes 
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That's not the case with 
Endurance, Sports, like, Zach 

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bitter. 
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Mike, McKnight. 
He just ran. 

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I think you just broke some 
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with fasting. 
He did the whole thing fast. 

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And, you know, we've all learned
our Pro cards with a strict 

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ketogenic approach through the 
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There was no carb refeed there 
to fill out for the show. 

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We avoided all that, and you 
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again, so, For me, it's like, 
I'm not trying to say that. 

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Everybody should be doing a 
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I think what is most sustainable
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And I feel like for a lot of 
people they just don't do well 

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with carbohydrates, and that may
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may be an emotional tie to 
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digestive issue that comes from 
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But for those people to think 
that they can't excel in life 

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unless they have carbohydrates. 
I feel like it is a deliberate 

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liberating to know that they 
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entirely and I feel like that 
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But I don't know, maybe I'm just
absolutely, I think we're on the

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same page on that one though 
because could not agree more, 

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you not agree more. 
I'm shocked and I've you know, 

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you talked to a lot of people 
I've not competed any other way.

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I know no other way than the 
ketogenic way. 

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But just in speaking to other 
people, it's kind of cool to 

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learn the differences and to see
that you know, in a show you get

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there. 
And even though I haven't put a 

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carbohydrate in my body and 
years I was able. 

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To get myself to a point where I
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Yeah, and I mean, y'all, both 
look freaking amazing on stay is

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like, I've seen I've seen Greg's
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his prep back in the day with 
carbohydrates. 

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And like you said, you haven't 
done the show before this, but 

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it's like, I see a lot of 
competitors. 

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I see their professional stage 
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I see him on stage and there 
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brought the table. 
That I feel could have been 

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improved with carbohydrates. 
If you're not missing anything, 

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if it's more sustainable for 
you, if your hormones are in 

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better, check then, Then I don't
see any need like so many 

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people, they live. 
This moderation approach life. 

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And for some people that's 
great. 

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And I mean, that worked for 
them. 

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But like, if you are genuinely 
excited about optimizing things 

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around a diet that is just 
better in tune with what your 

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body responds. 
Well to then that to me should 

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be more exciting and more 
liberating more empowering than 

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that temporary high you get from
incorporating. 

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The increased variety of having 
carbohydrates like that. 

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The meat is not a worthwhile 
trade-off. 

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I totally agree. 
Yeah, and it's not like, I mean,

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I mean, people think that we 
just eat bacon and eggs all day 

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long and that's not the case 
either. 

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I mean, you know, you're in 
Canada gin, so I don't really 

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get it. 
Enjoy a meal with you too often.

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But but Greg, when you flew down
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mean we were eating pretty 
freaking good man. 

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Those steaks were like two 
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Glenfiddich gots to wash them 
down. 

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We had some stuffed mushrooms, 
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Poppers and life is good. 
Yeah, we even went out for 

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Mexican. 
Remember we brought a couple 

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bags of pork rinds in there and 
they were so kind as to build 

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this insane heaping plate of 
nachos, for each of us on the 

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pork, rinds that we brought in 
there instead of using chips and

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they were awesome. 
Yeah, I think it just takes it 

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takes a little bit of effort. 
Like, I think, you know, you 

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can, you can go to any 
restaurant, any, any dining 

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experience and make it 
ketogenic, make it within your, 

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your goals from a nutritional 
standpoint. 

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It just takes a little bit more 
effort than just Simply looking 

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at picking anything from the 
menu, but I feel like that app 

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that little bit extra effort is 
totally worth its while and if 

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you're going to feel better, if 
you're going to perform better, 

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then you might as well just put 
forth that little extra effort. 

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Absolutely, and I might even 
argue that it's easier for me to

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die. 
Note any restaurant. 

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I want to living ketogenic 
lifestyle? 

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As I was, if I was on one of my 
other diets in my previous life,

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right? 
I can make anything work at any 

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restaurant. 
Any time any place and my 

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daughter and I were just talking
about that, you know earlier 

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today and how grateful she is at
even 13 years old doing. 

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Following this lifestyle and how
easy it is for her to eat at 

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restaurants to what is that? 
Like, because you've got how 

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many kids now to write mu 2. 
Yeah, and they're both doing 

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pretty well, keto or just her 
pretty well, key. 

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Do they still eat yogurt? 
And they still do eat fruit, but

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we've cut out all sugars, like 
other unnatural sugars and 

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potatoes, chips crackers, all 
that kind of stuff. 

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So it can be challenging for 
them when they go to friends 

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houses for sleepovers or 
birthday parties and things. 

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But, you know, the world we live
in buying them some sort of an 

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option like the protein chips, 
even a low-carb, so they just 

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bring their own. 
But again, like it's easy to 

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easy to make it work. 
I'm curious because with so like

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there's all these different 
dining circles and there's these

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beliefs, you know, some people 
say it's all calories. 

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Some people say it's a whore. 
Bones, when it when it comes to 

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the Obesity epidemic that we 
find ourselves in. 

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But I feel like children are a 
unique opportunity to see how 

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their their behavior, their 
mood. 

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All these things are impacted. 
Just from the foods are 

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consuming because, like, you 
know, they're they're not, there

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are definitely a lot of obese 
children out there these days. 

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But like, if you've got a child,
you said she was held. 

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He'll just turn 13 13 today just
turned 13. 

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Okay, so she's not morbidly 
obese. 

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She's you know healthy, she's 
got a high-functioning 

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metabolism. 
She's you know, 13 years old. 

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When she eats foods that are 
good single ingredient 

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wholesome, ketogenic esque foods
and calories are more or less 

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equated for this. 
She have a different response. 

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Like she like her mood, her 
energy levels because all that 

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different verses when she's 
eating roughly the same caloric.

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That's coming from typical foods
that you see in kids grocery 

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store aisles. 
Absolutely completely different 

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child, especially the mood and 
is where like I say, she's 13 

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and going through these changes 
right now, and she commented to 

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me just the other day. 
How much better? 

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She feels like without any 
prompting. 

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She's explaining to me, how much
better her body feels and I love

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it. 
I love that for her. 

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Like, I don't care what you eat.
But if you're feeling better, 

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you know, it's working. 
That tells me it's working, and 

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I'm just so happy. 
We decided to make make the 

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switch. 
Yeah, see, I feel like that. 

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I mean there's always people to 
say like like I said earlier 

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it's all about calories. 
But when you when you just 

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simply look at how your you're 
going throughout the day, your 

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mood, your energy levels, 
especially when you're looking 

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at a child like that, like that.
That's a pretty indicative 

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factor of what's actually going 
on behind the scenes and that 

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all these calories from 
different sources, can't really 

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be put into the same grouping. 
You have to kind of look at the 

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quality of that nutrition and 
what their what it's doing to 

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the individual. 
Hands down. 

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Absolutely, and when she 
compares herself to her friends,

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the same age, going through the 
same things, their experience is

452
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very different from hers. 
So again tells me that the 

453
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:06,000
higher fats and things for 
hormones in women girls can make

454
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,900
a huge difference. 
Not just about calories in 

455
00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:10,700
calories out for sure. 
Yeah. 

456
00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:13,700
And speaking of hormones, Greg 
you did your show and you get 

457
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:17,100
your hormone panel. 
How long after that after the 

458
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,000
Because that hormone panel. 
That was. 

459
00:24:23,100 --> 00:24:27,300
I think it was maybe a month. 
Was it a month or so, I think I 

460
00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:30,000
don't even think it was. 
I mean, maybe three or four 

461
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,000
weeks. 
I don't think of any longer 

462
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,500
than. 
Yeah. 

463
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:34,300
I think you're right. 
Yeah, I was probably with it was

464
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,400
less than a month how much I had
my heart. 

465
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,800
Thank your family. 
Owes you remember? 

466
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:44,900
I think we were down where we 
down Seventeen eighteen hundred 

467
00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:46,400
or so. 
If I remember correctly off the 

468
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,400
top of my head. 
Yeah, I think 17 hundred or so, 

469
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:52,700
which is honestly is quite a bit
higher than a lot of people take

470
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,400
their calories. 
So that that was good. 

471
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,800
But then, you know, three or 
four weeks post deficit like the

472
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,600
the depth of your deficit, your 
hormones, your total 

473
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,100
testosterone is what 700 
something. 

474
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:07,000
Yeah, get my total test. 
Yep, and that's pretty unheard 

475
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,200
of. 
I mean, there's a study I forget

476
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,700
the name of the study, but they 
looked at natural body builders,

477
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:16,100
they go through a deficit and it
was like the again and I'm going

478
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:18,200
to butcher study, but the test 
pool. 

479
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,800
They were looking at like, there
were many, many participants in 

480
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,400
there that I haven't 
testosterone as low as the 200s,

481
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:28,800
you know, post-show and here you
are 700. 

482
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:33,200
And I honestly think so much. 
That is simply a result of you 

483
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,300
having a Dietary fat intake with
a ketogenic approach throughout 

484
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:39,700
your prep, as opposed to 
incredibly low dietary fat that 

485
00:25:39,700 --> 00:25:43,600
is common of most bodybuilding, 
show prep nutrition, protocols 

486
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,600
and and it just makes total 
sense when you stop and think 

487
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,100
about like if your body fat is 
sub five percent body fat and we

488
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,200
got, I don't know if we got sub 
5 with you, but we got pretty 

489
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,700
dang low like 6% or something. 
And if you're not taking any 

490
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,800
dietary fat and you're not 
taking it any, you don't have 

491
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,800
any body fat, I mean, your 
hormones are going to freaking 

492
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,500
tank, like that's just going to 
happen. 

493
00:26:02,500 --> 00:26:05,100
But if you're able to mitigate, 
Eight that in large part by 

494
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:09,000
keeping dietary fat High, that's
going to be a huge Factor as 

495
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,000
well. 
There's another thing that I 

496
00:26:11,008 --> 00:26:13,100
really want to talk about with 
both yell because I think this 

497
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:15,200
this brings an interesting 
perspective as well. 

498
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,900
A lot of people, I mean, in most
competition, perhaps they'll 

499
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:24,200
keep protein, incredibly High to
preserve as much lean mass as 

500
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,200
possible. 
So continuing to train hard, 

501
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,400
continually train, heavy 
maintain your volume throughout 

502
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:31,800
the caloric deficit is 
incredibly muscle sparing and 

503
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,200
from a nutritional standpoint. 
Everyone keeps their In very 

504
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,600
high to prevent muscle breakdown
as well. 

505
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,100
However, in the past when I've 
done shows before Quito and my 

506
00:26:42,100 --> 00:26:45,300
protein was very, very high and 
my fat was relatively low and my

507
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:48,400
carbohydrates were low or high. 
Depending on where I wasn't that

508
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,300
prep. 
I always lost a ton of strength 

509
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,500
and would see truly significant 
dips in like the numbers. 

510
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:58,800
I was pushing in the gym. 
Now both of, y'all had a pretty 

511
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,500
relatively low protein intake 
towards the very end of your 

512
00:27:02,500 --> 00:27:05,200
competition prep. 
Cuz your dietary fat was still 

513
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,600
high in. 
Carbs are obviously very low, 

514
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,900
but I don't feel like either of 
y'all Or me in my later 

515
00:27:09,900 --> 00:27:13,000
competition, preps with a 
ketogenic diet, sustained hardly

516
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,900
any strength loss at all. 
Like, we weren't really hitting 

517
00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:19,000
PR's, but you're all sending me 
your strength metrics. 

518
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,600
And all of them was, was pretty 
on par with what you were 

519
00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800
pushing in the very beginning of
the prep, when calories were 

520
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:25,900
high. 
Is that right? 

521
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,300
Absolutely. 
Sorry if we're sticking with 

522
00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:32,400
ladies first. 
I thought I'd jump in the event.

523
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,800
Definitely, I was throughout the
duration of the prep able to 

524
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:43,700
progressively push harder every 
week up until peak week when I 

525
00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,500
wasn't supposed to but I could 
have if I needed to. 

526
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,500
Yeah, definitely. 
I don't think that I lost any 

527
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:53,500
muscle there. 
I would argue that. 

528
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,300
I think I might have messed it 
up a little bit in the reverse. 

529
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:04,800
But when I started to add 
protein back to quickly anyways,

530
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,200
but no all in all the prep with 
the protein as low as it got. 

531
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,100
I was totally fine. 
I don't know about you there. 

532
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,200
Greg. 
Yeah, I agree with you. 

533
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,000
I actually had some gym sessions
where I was knocking out some 

534
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:24,500
PR's as my clerk load, was 
decreasing. 

535
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,200
And so I, you know, there was a 
few weeks. 

536
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,600
It's kind of hit or miss with 
any type of training where 

537
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,600
you're not going to always have 
a hundred percent at every 

538
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:36,300
single gym session, but there 
were definitely some days where 

539
00:28:36,300 --> 00:28:39,500
I was hitting some PRS. 
And my strength is was 

540
00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:44,100
maintaining way more than I 
would have ever imagined and I 

541
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:46,500
just kept raining hard all the 
way through prep until we got to

542
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:48,500
Peak Week. 
Like you said you kind of dial 

543
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,300
it back a little bit and don't 
do anything too strenuous and 

544
00:28:51,300 --> 00:28:53,100
kind of come coasting into the 
stage. 

545
00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:56,300
So it was amazing. 
Yeah and see this is this is 

546
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:59,100
interesting because there's all 
these scientific studies out 

547
00:28:59,100 --> 00:29:03,700
there that point to Greater 
protein intake being very, you 

548
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:06,100
know, muscle sparing which is 
true hundred percent, true. 

549
00:29:06,100 --> 00:29:10,200
I'm not I'm not denying that at 
all, but I think in the context 

550
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,300
of a caloric deficit for a 
competition prep, if you are a 

551
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,800
fat a day, Adapted individual 
and you keep dietary fat High, 

552
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,000
which is going to keep your 
hormones, more stable, and 

553
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,700
you're not trying to build 
muscle necessary, so much as you

554
00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:23,700
are trying to preserve the 
muscle. 

555
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:26,500
You have built in order to 
optimize from a fat loss 

556
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:28,900
standpoint and just improve the 
composition for stage. 

557
00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:33,300
I have found, you know, without 
a doubt and all the clients. 

558
00:29:33,300 --> 00:29:37,600
I've worked with more muscle 
preservation by keeping the 

559
00:29:37,608 --> 00:29:40,400
dietary fat relatively high. 
And, you know, not that I'm 

560
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,500
trying to go for low protein by 
instance. 

561
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,700
I'm not trying to Promote low 
protein intake, but if you're 

562
00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,400
trying to, if your calories are 
whittling down, it has to come 

563
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,200
from somewhere and carbs are 
obviously going to be low 

564
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,500
because we're doing a ketogenic 
approach. 

565
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:55,100
There's no benefit to having the
carbs and you basically either 

566
00:29:55,100 --> 00:29:57,200
pull from your fat or your 
protein. 

567
00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,100
And we pull from both, but we 
keep dietary fat relatively 

568
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:05,300
High, you know, comparatively 
and the protein is low by most 

569
00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:08,100
people's standards for that 
finite period of time at the 

570
00:30:08,108 --> 00:30:11,300
very tail end of a prep. 
And I don't notice any muscle 

571
00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:13,100
wasting. 
I continue to hit the lifts that

572
00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,700
I was sitting at the inning and 
both of you did as well. 

573
00:30:15,900 --> 00:30:18,700
And I feel like there can be all
these studies in the world that 

574
00:30:18,700 --> 00:30:20,200
show that, that shouldn't 
happen. 

575
00:30:20,500 --> 00:30:24,200
But I've seen it time and time 
and time again in working with 

576
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,700
over hundreds of clients. 
And it's like, I don't need any 

577
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:28,200
study to tell me that this is 
impossible. 

578
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,500
Like, I know for a freaking 
fact, this is what's what's 

579
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:32,000
happening here. 
And this is what's working. 

580
00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:34,600
So that's all, that's all the 
reassurance I need. 

581
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:37,900
But I'm going. 
Yeah. 

582
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:41,600
So box here. 
No, totally agree. 

583
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,700
Totally agree. 
I would have doubted you before 

584
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,600
I actually experienced it, but 
hands down, I was able to 

585
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,900
maintain that muscle, for sure. 
Now, as a lot of it boiled down 

586
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:56,700
to being somewhat mental as 
well, because when you get down,

587
00:30:57,100 --> 00:31:00,500
wouldn't your kind of in the 
prep and your calories are 

588
00:31:00,500 --> 00:31:04,300
dwindling week back week after 
week, and your protein is 

589
00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:06,900
dropping and you still want to 
hit the gym and you still want 

590
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:10,000
to It hard, if you have that 
mental mindset going in there, 

591
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,800
that all, you know, my intake is
low. 

592
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,100
My protein is low. 
I probably won't be able to lift

593
00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,700
this heavy. 
Then you're just setting 

594
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:19,300
yourself up to lift, less heavy.
Yeah, so if you go in thinking 

595
00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,700
that, you know, I'm still going 
to give it everything I got. 

596
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:23,000
I don't know how this is gonna 
go. 

597
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
I'm shooting for the best, and 
you're able to do it. 

598
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,900
So, there's a little bit of 
mental mental play there, but 

599
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:33,200
it's doable for sure. 
Yeah, 100% Well, I wonder too, 

600
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,700
like, one of my proteins High, I
don't sleep as well, right. 

601
00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:39,400
And then I would wake up tired 
and wouldn't have the energy to 

602
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,800
do what I needed to do at the 
gym either where the way that I 

603
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:45,200
was out. 
I slept like a baby and woke up 

604
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,100
feeling like a million bucks and
could push it in the gym, too. 

605
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,500
Yeah. 
It's interesting because like, I

606
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:52,800
mean, we're all in the keto 
space. 

607
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,500
We're all seeing these posts 
that people are making. 

608
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:59,600
And and and protein is often 
times given this Halo and, you 

609
00:31:59,608 --> 00:32:03,500
know, told to, you're told to 
eat it at libitum, eat protein. 

610
00:32:03,500 --> 00:32:05,800
There's no cap to protein. 
There's no issues if you over 

611
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,900
consume protein, And I can't 
stress this enough. 

612
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:11,300
I am not demonizing protein. 
Like I don't want anybody to 

613
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:14,000
listen to this and think that 
I'm suggesting people eat a 

614
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,800
little Protein, that's not the 
case at all. 

615
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,700
But I think there is a 
significant benefit in starting 

616
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,100
with a very high percentage of 
your total calories coming from 

617
00:32:22,100 --> 00:32:24,000
fat. 
If you are just starting the 

618
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,900
kids drink diet, and you're 
getting fat adapted because you 

619
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:29,100
remove those carbohydrates, and 
you have to replace it, energy 

620
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,600
source with something, and 
protein is not a great substrate

621
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,500
for energy. 
And then I think there's also a 

622
00:32:33,500 --> 00:32:36,800
massive benefit to in the 
context of a caloric deficit in.

623
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:39,600
Which your body fat is very low,
you trying to keep your hormones

624
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,400
stable and preserve the muscle 
that you have as opposed to 

625
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,200
build more. 
But in a building phase or when 

626
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,100
calories are higher, when the 
primary goal is to build muscle.

627
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,400
I mean, my proteins, pretty 
dang. 

628
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,300
I like, I'm probably at, like, I
don't know, 200 grams of protein

629
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:55,400
a day or so, right now, which 
is, you know, I only weigh 175 

630
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,900
pounds, so, that's, that's 
totally a protein for me. 

631
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,900
And both of y'all are increasing
as well, because you're coming 

632
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,100
out of this reverse diets, so, I
don't know. 

633
00:33:03,108 --> 00:33:06,100
It's just, there's just a lot of
context when it comes to 

634
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,800
discussion around. 
Protein and I don't like seeing 

635
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,300
all these just generic 
recommendations for eat this at 

636
00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:14,400
all costs, when it comes to 
protein, don't ever dip below 

637
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:15,600
this. 
There's no good that comes from 

638
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,800
it, eat as much as you want and 
Beyond it, but that's just not 

639
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:22,500
the real case when it comes to 
optimizing for a specific goal. 

640
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:29,700
Not at all. 
I'd love to kind of dive into 

641
00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:34,800
from a coaching standpoint with 
y'all both being deep sticky 

642
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,100
dough coaches. 
Now, you know, we can't touch a 

643
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,300
little bit on why you are 
motivated to coach. 

644
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,900
But when it comes to coaching 
philosophies that I've been 

645
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,900
coaching for a long time. 
Now, I think that's hard 2015, 

646
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:52,500
2016, something like that. 
And a lot of people come to work

647
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:55,400
with a coach because they truly 
just don't. 

648
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,900
What to do from a macronutrient 
manipulation standpoint, they're

649
00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:02,300
looking to the coach for that 
micronutrient standpoint from a 

650
00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:04,200
people come to coach for lots of
different reasons. 

651
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,700
I think a lot of it is just an 
accountability Factor having 

652
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,800
somebody there to, you know, 
that's, that's done what you're 

653
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,800
wanting to do. 
And just let you know that 

654
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,100
you're on the right track 
because I mean the first time I 

655
00:34:17,107 --> 00:34:20,400
ever did a prep, I had no coach 
and I did everything wrong, and 

656
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,500
I kept second-guessing myself 
because I didn't know if I was 

657
00:34:22,507 --> 00:34:26,100
doing everything right or wrong.
And that lack of Have resulted 

658
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:29,400
in just a toll but a whole bunch
of mental bandwidth, getting 

659
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,500
sucked out of me and just things
ID and lots of stress and 

660
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:37,400
depression that comes with that.
So for yum, you know, being able

661
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,600
to be an accountability factor 
for any potential. 

662
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,500
Clientele coming your way. 
I mean, what do you what do you 

663
00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,900
see? 
I mean what have you experienced

664
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,699
personally and being coached 
yourselves? 

665
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:51,100
And then what do you hope to do 
going forward and being that for

666
00:34:51,100 --> 00:34:53,800
others? 
Again, ladies first gym. 

667
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,900
It's all you. 
Thanks, Robert. 

668
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,900
No, I'm think for me. 
I want to be a supporter 

669
00:35:01,700 --> 00:35:05,000
motivator. 
Like you say, help with some of 

670
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,700
that background experience 
helped, give them the 

671
00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:11,400
confidence, and the knowledge, 
share the knowledge that I have.

672
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:17,000
But I also know that the person 
that I'm coaching has to have a 

673
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,400
strong. 
Why? 

674
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:22,400
Like, I can't make you do it. 
I can't put the food in your 

675
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,400
mouth. 
They're in your cover or you've 

676
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:29,500
never like you need to come with
a reason why and I have a strong

677
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,800
foundation and core belief as to
why you want to do this. 

678
00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:39,700
And then I feel like I can then 
help guide and motivate and 

679
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:46,500
encourage along the way. 
Yeah, sort of what has worked 

680
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:51,500
for me in the past and and even 
in starting to coach a few 

681
00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:55,900
people. 
Now, that's what I think will 

682
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:59,800
lead to a really successful 
coaching session. 

683
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,500
Are there going to be times when
you're not as motivated and you 

684
00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:04,300
sort of lose that why a little 
bit? 

685
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,500
Yes, and I would absolutely help
to remind you of it and bring it

686
00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:12,400
back but that's sort of the 
philosophy and approach and 

687
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,500
style that I would take and I do
too. 

688
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,800
Love it, but you Greg. 
Yep, same thing. 

689
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:23,000
I know I really like and put 
have a lot of value in the 

690
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,800
accountability portion of 
things. 

691
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,800
So if you've got somebody who's 
on your side and can kind of 

692
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,100
keep you held accountable 
somebody that you know that 

693
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:36,100
you're going to be that's 
watching you kind of making sure

694
00:36:36,100 --> 00:36:39,300
you're staying on track and 
they're going to be looking at 

695
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:40,900
your numbers. 
Looking at your weights, looking

696
00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:45,200
at your progress. 
Photos kind of keeps you refrain

697
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:46,900
from wanting to let them down a 
little bit. 

698
00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:51,100
So It's a big factor for me. 
Also, you know, anybody can hop 

699
00:36:51,100 --> 00:36:55,700
online and find a dozen or more 
different macro calculators and 

700
00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:59,000
punching their stats and they're
going to get a dozen or more 

701
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600
different sets of numbers. 
Whereas, when you work directly 

702
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,100
with somebody, who's kind of 
taking in all of your 

703
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:08,100
information and your your life 
circumstances to consideration. 

704
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,800
They're going to help dial you 
week by week or regularly. 

705
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,200
We're going to kind of give you 
some tidbits and pointers and 

706
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,500
everything along the way day by 
day and taking it. 

707
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:19,400
Consideration that you're an 
actual person. 

708
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,600
Not just somebody who's punching
up numbers and going to try it 

709
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,800
themselves. 
So, I think the personal 

710
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:31,200
connection is a big factor 
because we're all human beings 

711
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,900
and we all come from different 
backgrounds. 

712
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:35,900
We all have different things 
going on in our lives. 

713
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:38,200
We all have heartache. 
We all have tough times. 

714
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,200
Good times UPS downs, and if you
have somebody to talk to and 

715
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,300
kind of working through that 
one-on-one, it's it's really, 

716
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:48,900
really valuable my opinion. 
So that's kind of what A few I 

717
00:37:48,900 --> 00:37:51,500
want to try to portray with 
people in the future as well. 

718
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,900
Well, I feel like I've been 
spoiled because, you know, I've 

719
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,200
seen all types in clients over 
the years and both of y'all were

720
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,800
freaking exceptional clients 
like for me as a coach. 

721
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,700
And and now y'all as coaches, 
when the client comes to you, 

722
00:38:05,707 --> 00:38:07,200
and they're just like 
self-motivated. 

723
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,400
They're ready to rock and roll. 
They just simply want Direction.

724
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,800
And then once you give them the 
direction, they freaking run 

725
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,400
with it. 
Like that is a pretty easy 

726
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,600
coaching client relationship 
because I mean, then I Undo my 

727
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,900
work, as a coach. 
I can see how their body is 

728
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:23,300
responding to the various 
manipulations that we're making 

729
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,200
and then we make the correct 
adjustments and then they just 

730
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:29,300
Implement those adjustments. 
And then I continue to just find

731
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:32,400
finesse and finding the process.
Whenever you get somewhere that 

732
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,900
just is, you know, motivated 
temporarily. 

733
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,300
But then that falls off because 
they lack discipline and then 

734
00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:40,900
they, they fall off the wagon 
and they just as Perpetual cycle

735
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:45,100
of on-again, off-again like that
is an exhausting relationship. 

736
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:47,600
Now, it happens. 
And you know, I've had become 

737
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,800
Better Coach and learning how to
work with those type of people. 

738
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,100
And we take it one day at a time
and we try to make progress and 

739
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:56,400
we do make progress. 
But you know, for me having been

740
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,800
blessed with. 
So many clients like the two of 

741
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,900
y'all were to me in which you 
know, I gave you the macros. 

742
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:04,100
I gave you the instruction that 
you just freaking rain with it 

743
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,700
because you were disciplined 
that that's awesome. 

744
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:09,500
So I hope nothing but the best 
for y'all as coaches getting 

745
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:13,600
client to like that because it 
everybody wins in a relationship

746
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,100
like that. 
So I can only hope that is what 

747
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,500
the majority of your clients 
will be like. 

748
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:23,800
Yes, I think but I do think to 
your point so much of it is a 

749
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,800
mental game. 
Right? 

750
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,100
So you're in it, you might be 
motivated for a while and then 

751
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,700
it starts to slip. 
So this is why I wear, I think 

752
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:35,100
that we Greg and I press sounds 
like we're very much aligned can

753
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:39,600
really help, you know, motivate 
and encourage, and get that 

754
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,000
mindset. 
Maybe back to that place. 

755
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,100
And, and again, hold 
accountability and help 

756
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,200
encourage and get people to 
achieve the goals that they 

757
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,500
intended. 
To achieve. 

758
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,800
But again to Griggs point that, 
you know, if you have a great 

759
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:58,200
relationship if it's the right 
fit, I just see it being 

760
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,100
incredibly successful and we can
help push through some of these 

761
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:07,100
mindset shifts and sort of the 
the point where maybe we're 

762
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,400
somebody on their own might fall
off completely, we can just help

763
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,000
bring them back. 
Yeah, kind of percent. 

764
00:40:13,100 --> 00:40:17,400
It's kind of its kind of crazy 
like as coaches, you know, it's 

765
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,100
a coaching is Is like a seen as 
a selfless Endeavor. 

766
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,800
Like you're trying to do this to
the betterment of your clientele

767
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,200
and that is absolutely the 
foundational pillar of why you 

768
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,000
do what you do as a coach. 
And I know y'all both enough 

769
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
personally to know that that's 
the reason you're doing this but

770
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,900
it's kind of cool when you start
coaching people because you see 

771
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:39,600
their success and you see them 
lean on you for motivation 

772
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:43,700
inspiration Direction knowledge 
and it just makes your own 

773
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,000
conviction of the lifestyle grow
that much deeper. 

774
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:51,800
So I I've become a better 
ketogenic athlete personally 

775
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,800
because of the people I've 
coached over the years because 

776
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,500
it motivates me to stay with it 
myself because I see firsthand 

777
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,200
day after day after day, how it 
benefits. 

778
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:06,300
So many people outside of my own
unique Inner Circle and I think 

779
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,700
you know, both of y'all have the
potential to be absolutely 

780
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:13,800
amazing coaches and also amazing
athletes in your competitive 

781
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,800
Endeavors. 
So I feel like the the deeper 

782
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,500
you hone in on this lifestyle 
because Motivation from the 

783
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,300
coaching client relationships 
that you have. 

784
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,100
It's going to make you a better 
Coach to them. 

785
00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,500
It's also going to make you a 
better athlete personally. 

786
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,000
So, I'm just excited for y'all. 
Both to have the tools and have 

787
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,700
the ability to have the 
opportunity to put out value in 

788
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:35,700
this world to others. 
Because, I mean, I don't know, 

789
00:41:35,700 --> 00:41:37,800
I'm not trying to blow smoke up 
anybody's but here, but y'all 

790
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200
both great people. 
You're both skilled coaches, 

791
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,800
skilled athletes and I mean, I 
totally vouch for you 100% 

792
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,000
because you know what you're 
doing, you know, I'm proud to 

793
00:41:47,008 --> 00:41:52,800
see y'all keep doing it. 
I would agree with that, 1000% 

794
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,900
Sorry to jump in on the agenda. 
But I just thought as boiling, 

795
00:41:55,900 --> 00:41:59,700
you know, I had a couple out a 
couple years to three years of 

796
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:03,500
personal training experience. 
And so I did come across several

797
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:07,500
different types of clientele and
people that were motivated. 

798
00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:11,900
Not motivated people that were 
that were, you know, adhere to 

799
00:42:11,900 --> 00:42:14,900
the plan and not adhere to the 
planner fall off the wagon every

800
00:42:14,900 --> 00:42:17,500
weekend or whatever else. 
And those the challenge was a 

801
00:42:17,508 --> 00:42:20,600
very very rewarding work. 
Those people in all different 

802
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:24,800
types of people, and seeing 
their success in their progress 

803
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,600
and the Joy on their face when 
they check in and their weight 

804
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,700
went down or their body, 
composition looks better or 

805
00:42:31,700 --> 00:42:34,400
their pants are looser, or 
whatever. 

806
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:38,100
Your non scale. 
Victory might be, is that is 

807
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:41,800
super incredibly motivating for 
me personally, and I'm sure it 

808
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:47,200
is for you Jan and Robert just 
people's success and the way 

809
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,600
they start seeing results. 
Results and improving their life

810
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,500
makes me want to see more 
results and improve my life. 

811
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:57,600
So it's kind of like a 
regurgitating, circle. 

812
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,100
Maybe that's not the right word,
but it's just like it's a 

813
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:04,300
never-ending Loop. 
So I want you to succeed because

814
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:07,600
then I want to succeed and then 
you're going to succeed because 

815
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,200
we're all succeeding and it's 
just it's just a motivational 

816
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,700
clan of everyone that works 
together. 

817
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:19,000
So Yeah, kind of percent 100%. 
The said it better myself. 

818
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,700
Support circle of support 
support system. 

819
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,400
It's awesome. 
And really appreciate the 

820
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,000
opportunity to hear Robert. 
Well, I'm excited. 

821
00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:29,300
I'm going to kind of go off on a
little bit of a tangent here. 

822
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:34,700
But so y'all both coaches under 
the deeper State keto brand, 

823
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,300
which is one of my sub Brands. 
And for me by, that does not 

824
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:41,600
know, I don't really talk about 
deeper State keto, because it's 

825
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,500
something that I built 
alongside. 

826
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,900
Matt Mega keto connect back in 
2017. 

827
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:52,300
I want to say I built that 
course with them right after I 

828
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:58,400
earned my Pro card in 2017, and 
I've honestly not really done 

829
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,200
much with it. 
You know, I just haven't, I've 

830
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,000
been busy building, keto Savage,
Kubrick and everything else. 

831
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,900
But here lately, I've been going
through the deepest a keto 

832
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:09,700
course. 
It's like a 90-day course for 

833
00:44:09,707 --> 00:44:10,500
me. 
That doesn't know. 

834
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,600
It's 90-day course teaches you 
how to manipulate your Macros. 

835
00:44:14,900 --> 00:44:18,800
How to track your intake with a 
higher fat approach to begin 

836
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,000
with is really good for people 
that have not yet become fat 

837
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,300
adapted or just dabbling into 
keto for the first time. 

838
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,700
But I've been going through all 
these course, modules to kind of

839
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:28,000
brush myself up on the course. 
I've been kind of polishing and 

840
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,200
tweaking a few things and even 
though it was made in 2017. 

841
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,100
Like it's a super freakin solid 
course, like I'm excited to 

842
00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,500
breathe some new life into it. 
We got some new content coming, 

843
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,200
I'ma start, you know, putting 
some more marketing effort 

844
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,300
towards that and I'm excited to 
have you all. 

845
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:44,600
Come on board as coaches because
you're going to offer a ton of 

846
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,900
Are you as coaches? 
And you know, I think I think 

847
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:51,900
the whole concept of deeper 
State Quito and what it stands 

848
00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:54,800
for is basically just getting 
people adapted to more of a 

849
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,400
deeper state of ketosis. 
And I feel like we've all said 

850
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,900
in the very beginning, how 
there's all these different sub 

851
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:04,200
diets out there these broad 
dancers flexible dieting. 

852
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,200
There's dirty keto, cyclical 
keto, but we all come back to 

853
00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:11,700
pretty much a strict ketogenic 
approach with the emphasis being

854
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,600
on Quality Foods and I feel like
that's what deeper. 

855
00:45:14,700 --> 00:45:17,700
Aikido is at its core. 
So I'm a super excited to have 

856
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,300
you both join the team. 
I'm super excited about the 

857
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:22,700
content that we're going to be 
putting in adding to the course 

858
00:45:22,700 --> 00:45:25,900
itself and just the value that 
we can add, you know, 

859
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,400
collectively. 
So I'm honored to have both the.

860
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:32,100
I think the world of both of you
and I'm just excited for what's 

861
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:33,500
to come 2022. 
Here we come. 

862
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,000
Here we come. 
Absolutely can't. 

863
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,000
Wait. 
It's going to be I'm stoked. 

864
00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:43,400
This is a great opportunity. 
Thank you guys for being part of

865
00:45:43,408 --> 00:45:44,600
it. 
This is going to be awesome. 

866
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,500
It will indeed. 
So for anybody that does not 

867
00:45:47,500 --> 00:45:50,900
know where to find you all 
individually. 

868
00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:53,900
You, anybody can sign up to work
with you as a coach on deeper 

869
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:58,800
State keto.com, but if they want
to follow you on your individual

870
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,700
social profiles, which I 
encourage people to do 

871
00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:03,000
something, kind of get a feel 
for you all as people. 

872
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:10,000
Where do they go for that? 
I'm just Jen to Taro on 

873
00:46:10,100 --> 00:46:15,500
Instagram, as well as Facebook, 
and even a bit on YouTube 

874
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:19,500
documented, my my journey thus 
far as far as competition prep 

875
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:23,200
in the reverse diet out of it 
and even a few little Meal 

876
00:46:23,300 --> 00:46:26,100
videos on YouTube now. 
Awesome. 

877
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,600
What about you, Greg? 
You can find most of my content 

878
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:34,400
on Instagram at Quito Greg 80. 
Kilo Greg. 80. 

879
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:39,300
I just kind of post all kinds of
updates stories recipes gym, 

880
00:46:39,300 --> 00:46:42,300
stuff articles. 
You name it, whatever kind of 

881
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:45,200
Quito related. 
So sure hop on there and check 

882
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,900
it out. 
They can go on there right now 

883
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:50,200
and see your 315 benchpress 
fail. 

884
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,600
Yeah. 
That video I that was a video. 

885
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,700
I think it was probably it was a
few months back. 

886
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:00,900
Just kind of came across it in 
my gallery on my phone and I 

887
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:01,800
thought I'm going to share this 
again. 

888
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,700
Just kind of refresh that 
content. 

889
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:08,000
But yeah, I had a edit 315 bench
press setup. 

890
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,600
And I was at the gym. 
One evening, all by myself. 

891
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,100
Nobody else was in there and I 
got the first rep knocked out, 

892
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:15,800
but the second rep wasn't going 
to happen. 

893
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,800
So luckily I was able to save 
myself and have zero injury. 

894
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,900
So you had, you had a good tip 
there. 

895
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:24,100
Like if you're doing bench, 
press solo, leave the Clips off 

896
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:26,100
the bar, that way you can just 
rock it to one side. 

897
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:29,200
And then the other two, Get it 
to not pinned underneath it. 

898
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:33,200
But yeah, it's no joke, man. 
It's I don't do 315. 

899
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,500
So about myself. 
I don't, I don't want to get 

900
00:47:35,500 --> 00:47:37,000
pinned in there. 
But I guess that's just leave 

901
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,600
the Clips off and I'm ready to 
rock, like you. 

902
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:41,800
Yeah, do you even leave the 
Clips off the barbell? 

903
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,200
If unless you have, maybe if 
you're in like a rack or you've 

904
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,100
got some spotting pins or 
whatever else is something in 

905
00:47:48,100 --> 00:47:51,900
there as a safety catch, but 
this particular bench didn't 

906
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:54,100
have that. 
So yeah, leave the pins are 

907
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:57,700
leave the Clips off the brackets
off the end so you can rocket. 

908
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,400
Side to side and just dump the 
wait. 

909
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:01,100
There you go. 
There you go. 

910
00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:04,000
Well, Jim and Greg nothing, but 
pleasure always talking to you. 

911
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Um, I'm excited for what's to 
come this year, and I'm excited 

912
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,300
for the value. 
That will all hopefully be 

913
00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:10,800
adding to the community as a 
home. 

914
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,700
So as always, if there's ever 
anything that I can do for you. 

915
00:48:13,700 --> 00:48:16,200
Just let me know. 
Hit me up and I'm there for you.

916
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:20,200
I appreciate you so much Robert.
Yeah. 

917
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,300
Thank you. 
Thank you. 

918
00:48:22,300 --> 00:48:23,000
Have a great day.