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Well, hello, ladies and gents 
Roberts. 

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Thanks. 
Kiddo. 

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Savage.com damn, get special 
guest, DJ web back on the line. 

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This is apparently podcast 
number three with him. 

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He's just awesome. 
Dude. 

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I've had it on the podcast. 
I said twice before. 

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Always good conversation. 
We dive into a little bit of 

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disordered eating Tendencies. 
We talked about his experiments 

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with different types of dietary 
protocols. 

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He and I both used to do 
carbohydrate backloading. 

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So we touched on that kind of 
what it is. 

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What you don't want to do with 
that. 

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We talk about keto, we talk 
about carb cycling to talk about

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the addition of fruit and Honey 
into nutrition. 

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If that's something that you 
want to do, or don't want to do 

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and why he's been experimenting 
with all different kinds of 

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things. 
So I wanted to pick his brain as

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to what he's learned in that 
process, but it's honestly just 

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a super cool, dude. 
We talked for another 30 

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minutes. 
After I finished recording. 

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I just got nothing but respect 
for DJ. 

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So, without further Ado, sit 
back, relax. 

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Enjoy the podcast with DJ web. 
And we are live. 

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We got DJ web back in the 
building. 

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How are you man? 
I'm doing good man. 

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How are you? 
I'm good. 

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I'm good. 
Last time. 

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We spoke on a podcast shoot man.
It's been what about year and a 

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half? 
Maybe? 

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Something like that. 
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because I think we talked right 
before I started doing that carb

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cycling thing. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
Last time we talked, it was all 

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about, we do deep in like 
disordered eating Tendencies a 

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lot stuff out if I remember 
correctly. 

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Yep. 
Yeah that and this is our third 

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time. 
Now. 

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Wow, that's crazy. 
Three times a charm. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Well what's been new and you 
were a man you you've been 

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following you since I met him 
and you've always been kind of 

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do a little bit. 
Everything like I see lifting 

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heavy and Hora. 
See you running, you know, like 

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a frickin mad, man. 
I see you doing kedo. 

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I see you doing vertical that I 
see you, doing, lots of things. 

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I feel like you've got a lot of 
perspective and a lot of 

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experience, which is cool 
because it brings a lot more to 

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the table. 
I feel. 

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Yes, I've tried it all. 
I tried flexible dieting. 

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I tried the Dukan Diet back in 
the day or you had to have like,

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a tablespoon of, like, oh, 
Brandon day. 

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And I've tried and I've tried it
all most recently, carb cycling.

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I did carb backloading back in 
the day, kind of like you, that 

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was interesting. 
But, yeah, it's kind of fun. 

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Like, are back live here, 
minting, like when I was poking 

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my car back. 
I know you've done it as well 

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and I had some in the parking 
lot too long ago and they had 

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done it as well. 
And whenever you get someone on 

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you have a conversation when 
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like the the conversation always
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Like when you know what you know
about attrition. 

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Now you think about carb 
backloading? 

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You're like, wow, I can't 
believe I used to eat like that.

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Oh, horrible, and if you if you 
try to Google carb backloading 

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now, I mean there is not even 
that much info. 

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Like all the info. 
I found years ago. 

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When I tried it 2012-2013. 
It was all over the place that 

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got the guy isn't Kiefer John 
Keifer. 

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I think that's his name. 
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Chunky Neiman. 
Yeah, he don't even talk about 

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it anymore. 
Really? 

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Like there ain't even that much 
info any more about it. 

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Yeah, I mean it worked. 
I mean, like, I did it 

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successfully in the sense that I
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Like, I was able to eat like a 
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Just a ton of body fat, but it's
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eat like that and be like, wow, 
I'm super healthy, you know? 

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Oh, not at all. 
Yeah, so I was doing it. 

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I was working for UPS. 
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And so it was really nice 
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literally would like you barely 
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Mostly proteins. 
Some fats like I think I was 

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having like a tuna can and maybe
a couple almonds and maybe like 

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a string cheese or something 
like during the day and you 

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don't have much time to eat 
during the day so it's perfect 

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but there was nights I'd get off
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And yeah, you're supposed to 
keep fat down but I go order 

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bunch of McDonald's and wake up 
in the morning and I wouldn't 

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gain any weight or nothing and 
he always not eat. 

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I like there was no nutritional 
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day. 
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the first time I probably even 
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paper that would have been in 
that car back loading book 

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because he talked about key do 
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They like you're saying but I 
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where I kid you not man, I would
work out and I was living with 

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my buddy that I work out with my
in college, the time. 

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He's my roommate and we would 
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We're both like, you know, bro, 
body butter Foodies and we would

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make these like nine by nine 
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Things of Betty Crocker 
brownies. 

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So it'd be like, you know, 9x9 
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That's like four inches deep. 
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with peanut butter and then we 
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top of that and some whipped 
cream for good measure and that 

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would be my meal for the 
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So, totally within the Realms of
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Oh yeah, has upheld. 
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And for me, it was interesting 
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morning because I was working 
all day running around, 

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delivering packages. 
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And so I would have liked. 
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protocol, but it was basically 
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my workout with protein shake 
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day until my final meal in the 
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probably huge bowls of cereal. 
Aisle sugary cereal. 

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That was low fat. 
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Yeah, it's crazy man. 
Crazy. 

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Are you talking like almost like
a box? 

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Like 3/4 of box to a box of 
cereal? 

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Yeah. 
I feel like it really. 

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IE, it is kind of a weird timing
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life, I had some serious 
disordered eating Tendencies and

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that book that whole format kind
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lean into those resorting to 
eating Tendencies. 

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So I'm just exactly binge at 
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Written. 
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like not appreciate what we're 
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how we did it. 
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of like lesson to the adverse 
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happening. 
If we had a huge Bowl, Food like

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that. 
So it was almost like we didn't 

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feel guilty for just totally 
binging, which is probably a 

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good thing. 
Honestly, not to feel guilty. 

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Oh, totally agree. 
Like, it removed that. 

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I just screwed up mentality, 
like, and brought it to. 

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Oh, I'm doing it for the 
betterment of my physique and 

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exercise goals. 
Yeah, crazy stuff. 

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So, you did carb last time we 
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You were doing carnivore, I 
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I want to say it was like during
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something like that are about to
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And then you kind of went am IA 
in the keto space for little 

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while. 
You're doing carb cycling and 

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now, you're more or less, kind 
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Is that right? 
Yes. 

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I'm sure everyone appreciate me.
Not posting food pictures 

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because I pretty much didn't at 
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But yeah, so I hooked up with a 
coach strength and conditioning 

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coach. 
North Carolina, and we did carb 

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cycling. 
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would be super low carb. 
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and that would be additional 
fats as far as tracking goes. 

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I wasn't tracking the actual fat
in like meat and whatnot. 

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But basically he would give me 
like what at what fats to add 

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weather was like avocados or 
macadamia nuts, almonds or 

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whatnot. 
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medium carb days on training 
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And then on my hardest lifting 
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is typically legs or whatever 
muscle group. 

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Like I wanted to bring up the 
most would be one high carb day 

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and that was while dieting so we
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Five or six months doing that. 
And then we did four months of 

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basically of any gaining phase 
and is gaining phase. 

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Robert was the first time. 
Since before I compete in 

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bodybuilding in 2007, that I 
legitimately did a gaining phase

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with an actual intent, where 
like my eating training, 

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everything was intentionally to 
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whole lot of fat. 
It's also need it more. 

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Yeah. 
And it literally. 

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Yeah, so, 14 14 years because in
the past and you know my history

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and a lot of people do on here. 
If I was doing that it was 

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basically a screw screw it 
mentality where I was just 

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eating anything and what and and
everything wasn't tracking or 

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anything and my lifting and 
everything else wasn't up to par

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to the amount of calories. 
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Mmm. 
So that was really nice and I 

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was still was tracking every day
weighing weighing food and and 

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everything and so we did about 
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started doing a cut again. 
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think we got up to like two 
high-carb days, which it allowed

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me to have a planned cheat meal 
and basically, I don't like 

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saying cheat meal, but 
basically, I got to eat whatever

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meal I wanted. 
Made sure I included me and then

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so when we start dieting again, 
it was it was through the end of

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November. 
And then, basically in December.

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I said, hey coach, I want to cut
ties. 

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I need to just be by myself, 
this next month and enjoy life 

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with the family, and not track, 
and not weigh anything and not 

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Weigh myself and, and just have 
a mental break. 

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And what was really good about? 
That is, that's what I did. 

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I ate intuitively. 
I, I still followed, you know, 

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that the food wise, I followed 
it pretty much to a tee and 

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allowed myself to have wheels 
here and there with the family 

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that weren't a part of whatever 
plan I was on before and then 

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and I didn't gain any weight. 
So that was like, huge for me. 

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Yeah, it's awesome. 
I may have lost a pound or two 

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you. 
So, and then come January 1st. 

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Sorry, we're carnivore month and
then I got back to carnivore 

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animal-based diet. 
I guess is what I would call it 

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now and so, yeah, I want to dive
in here, a little deeper. 

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So when you were doing, you did 
a cut for five months and then a

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bulk for four months and I hear 
that right? 

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Yes, roughly. 
Yeah, what was the, what was the

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goal of the cut? 
Like, were you just trying to 

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get as long as you could with 
the carb cycling approach? 

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And what was the intention 
there? 

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So, yeah, pretty much. 
I mean, I didn't have a, I mean,

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it in the back of my head. 
I always had a goal weight. 

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Which now, after my most recent,
dexa, scan, I was way off, but 

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it was always in the 160s 
because I always do. 

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Past. 
That's always what it, what it 

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was, if when I got to see some 
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160. 
So that was really the goal. 

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And then you started the book 
after that. 

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The building prison for that. 
What was your what was your 

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final weights at the end of the 
cut, beginning of the building 

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phase? 
And of the cut. 

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I think my lowest weight like 
166. 

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And then at the end of the bulk,
it was like 181 which was about 

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two pounds lighter than where I 
when I started the original cut 

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but my body composition was much
better. 

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When I got back, when I got back
up to 180 one. 

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It was it was a lot better than 
what it was at 183 beforehand. 

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Only two pound difference. 
Is your weight now? 

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So, one like 177 many, but I 
honestly, I don't weigh myself 

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about the dexa. 
Scan was a like second time. 

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I had gotten a weight done, and 
that was like, in the 1880s that

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morning, but I also had a lot of
liquids and stuff. 

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I had weighed myself like a 
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like, 177. 
And what's your height? 

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56c we had to compete together, 
man, because like you're saying 

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all this stuff and like I've 
only got like a ninja and a half

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on you sore about the same 
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much the same as well. 
A crime right now. 

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I'm 180 one where he 2183 
somewhere in there and I cut 

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down. 
And I'm usually competing at 

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like 160 165, somewhere that 
window. 

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So like our stats are pretty 
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So it'd be cool to step on stage
with me sometime. 

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I would love to see. 
I've always wanted to again. 

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I know I've always wanted to 
again. 

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I just I guess I'm nervous 
because of what happened. 

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Last time? 
That makes sense. 

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Yeah, with like the eating 
Tendencies. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, but I'm 100. 

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I'm a hundred and fifteen pages 
into your book right now. 

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Oh, nice, nice. 
We think so far. 

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It's good. 
I just got through the, I mean 

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the math, the math stuff. 
Wrapping my head around. 

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I mean, I've heard of all the 
different things, but I'm in 

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that portion where it's all 
doing all the math, to 

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calculate, your you're starting 
macros and whatnot. 

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And when you're laying it out, 
like moderate activity, extreme 

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activity, and then and then 
basically, you're like, don't 

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don't like, you may think you're
extreme activity, but really 

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you're more on the moderate 
activity thing. 

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So I'm I'm going through that 
chapter right now. 

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Well, I feel like I mean when 
you did your, when your did you 

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show and you handle this or 
getting tense is afterwards. 

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That was all with like the Bro 
diet though, right? 

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Oh, yeah. 
And back, then you weren't even 

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weighing food or nothing. 
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a chicken breast is a chicken 
breast. 

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It could have been eight ounces.
It could have been six ounces 

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and you never knew. 
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dieting is like, okay, you 
reduce, you do a whole potato to

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a Potato. 
But then, the potato could have 

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been All different sizes. 
Mmm. 

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And then and then your, I mean, 
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the rice which you actually use 
a measuring cup and you could, 

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you could split it up after 
cooking it. 

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But yeah, so yeah, it's real 
man. 

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Like I don't want to, I don't 
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would imagine your likelihood 
for going off the rails. 

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Post-show, if you were to do a 
prep with, you know, a ketogenic

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low carb. 
You know, higher fat approach 

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would be significantly reduced 
than what you had done in the 

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past with the, you know, crazy 
bro. 

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Dieting, you know, no hardly 
minimal, minimal fat. 

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I mean a lots of differences 
there. 

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Oh for sure. 
Yeah without a doubt but I mean 

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shoot even if you don't compete 
man, you like you're freaking 

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impressive in your own right 
when it comes to just you're 

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lifting man because you're some 
of the like you're dead lifts. 

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For instance. 
You put it on your Instagram. 

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They you're pulling. 
What was that a record of? 

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585 is that right? 
All right, so I got five ninety.

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So year three years ago back at 
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at pulled 562. 
But on my soul, my second lift. 

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I pulled 562 it kind of got out 
in front of me and I failed on 

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it and the goal that meat was 
600. 

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So then it was 585 that. 
Let me or whatever the kilos is 

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closest to that. 
And then, so, I told my coach at

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the time I was like, hey, I know
I have 585 and me. 

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He's like, ah, It will reset and
then in a week, you can pull it 

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at the gym. 
So I did 585 at the gym. 

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And then yeah, I was a couple 
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there and I trained with the 
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And so I went to the gym with 
the deadlift bar because I 

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wanted to see like what I could 
really do and most federation's 

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that use a deadlift bar. 
So or at least the Federation I 

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competed in. 
So I went to use the deadlift 

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bar. 
And sleep. 

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Well, that last night. 
So I had woken up extra early 

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because I don't like I don't 
like laying in bed if I'm up. 

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I'm up. 
So I went for like a 6-mile run 

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that morning came home cleaned 
up went to the gym. 

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I was like, well, I got Max 
deadlift. 

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So and then I was working up and
everything felt good and I got 

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590 Sumo no straps or anything 
and then I do an over-under grip

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so I got five ninety, which I 
was super excited. 

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I mean, I'm a pretty low motion 
lifter. 

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I don't make a lot of noise or 
how we set the bar down on. 

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Like don't drop the bar down. 
Just. 

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Yeah, because in competition and
competition can't drop bar down.

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So I just I train how I would in
a competition and yeah, there's 

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like one guy around there that 
was training that early that, 

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that was like, looking on. 
But yeah, so I got five ninety, 

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which was huge. 
Judge, that's super impressive, 

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man. 
Like I'd have never really done 

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sumos until here recently, and 
it took me like forever to get 

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sumos kind of acclimated to what
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Like it just took a long time 
for my, you know, hips and 

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everything to act like to that 
movement. 

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But now I'm stronger and sumos 
there anything really? 

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But I've never gone for like a 
heavy single. 

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I haven't done like a Max 
deadlift in years. 

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Honestly, the most I've ever 
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five plates, so 49. 
Five. 

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And that was back and I'll 
probably shoot 2015 or 16 long 

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time ago. 
And then I hadn't gotten that 

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sense. 
But here lately, I've been 

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doing, I've been kind of 
progressive overloading and 

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earlier this last week. 
I got 450 548. 

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So I would imagine that could 
pull five. 

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No problem if I'm doing that for
a but I don't know. 

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Oh, you definitely can because I
think You can't yours that. 

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You have a stiff bar, right? 
Yeah, how much difference does 

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that make? 
If I've only got a stiff bar, if

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I was to try and do it with a 
deadlift part, is it had 20 

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pounds or what? 
Yeah, you could easily you 

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definitely. 
You definitely can pull five 

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because I pulled 520 the other 
day. 

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Conventional on a deadlift bar. 
and, You deaf on it. 

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That look for you definitely can
pull or five and I guarantee it 

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you can pull it on a stiff 
barbecue. 

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Yeah, what about your, what Your
squats look like? 

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So, I'm trying to work my way 
back up there. 

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I got 420 the other day, nice, 
and then it won't be, it'll be 

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ten weeks until I test again. 
So my squat is way off from my 

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in competition. 
I got 474 some way off of that. 

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And I am a little lighter than I
was when I did that in 

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competition, but As you compete 
at 181. 

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I think I think I weighed in at 
176 that competition. 

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But then you are loading up on 
electrolytes and carbs and 

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stuff, and you probably going in
that I was probably like 180 for

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going into the that that 
morning. 

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Do you find yourself kind of 
gravitating more towards 

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powerlifting meats or like 
composition like body, comp 

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stuff, like bodybuilding? 
What excites? 

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More. 
Well, when I was at Super 

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training gym, you're kind of 
just around that powerlifting 

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Vibe. 
Mmm, and we were always training

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for something, training for that
next meet. 

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And then obviously, there's an 
off season until you get within 

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roughly like 12 weeks before the
powerlifting meat. 

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And then that's basically where 
the on season is where you're 

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doing. 
A 12-week program to Peak for 

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the powerlifting meet. 
Now. 

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I don't know. 
This is tights. 

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Always bodybuilding has always 
been in the back of my mind 

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because I primarily trained like
Power building. 

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I guess people would call it. 
Like it's pretty much kind of 

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like you to it. 
You base your lips around the by

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three main lifts and overhead, 
press. 

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If that if you want to add that 
in there and then you have your 

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body in the way. 
What are you? 

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What's your overhead? 
Press? 

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Look like I think last week, 
I've been having shoulder 

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issues. 
And so I've been doing, I've 

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been doing a lot of shoulder 
Mobility stuff before I lift any

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body part and it's starting to 
feel better. 

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So it was it was strict. 
I went up to 175 and I was like 

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I'm good there without without 
know. 

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I wasn't like doing nothing with
my legs or anything. 

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It was all just strict. 
So I was happy with it. 

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Just based on how my shoulder 
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bench. 
My best ever was like 3:30. 

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I got 315. 
When I was maxing that week, 

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which I was happy with. 
It's 3:15. 

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I probably could have gotten 320
maybe 325, but I stopped at 350 

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nose. 
Like I'm good. 

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Yeah, now we get pretty much the
same stats, man. 

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I mean, I think you probably got
me on on the deadlift for sure, 

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because I don't, I never tried 
to do with the deadlift barn. 

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But but I feel like everything 
else is pretty much on point. 

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You've got, I mean, you've got 
the, the shape of a body butter.

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So, like if you wanted to 
compete as a body butter, you 

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can definitely pull that off as 
well. 

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But you're also not run in 
several miles a day. 

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Like you're typically average in
what like 5 plus miles. 

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Day, yes. 
Yeah, the this month this month,

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pretty much has been five or 
more every single morning. 

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There's one day in there where 
it was icy outside and I 

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legitimately cannot run outside.
So I had to do some rucking for 

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my cuz I'm doing 75 hard. 
I had to do some rucking for my 

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45-minute workout outside. 
And then I hate running on the 

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treadmill. 
I did a mile before I worked out

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and then am I laughter and that 
was the only day that I did. 

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You run like five miles which 
one of you crazy cats was you 

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Brandon that started, the whole 
one mile a day thing. 

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All that was him. 
That was him. 

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That was him and I had last 
year. 

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I tore my hamstring and quad 
playing football and then had to

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stop running and I know you hurt
your ankle and you got out on 

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their on hitting the crutches 
and still got your, my limit my 

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legs. 
I'm just, uh, birthday, man. 

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Oh, that's awesome. 
So, But the beginning of this 

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year, I did some fundraiser, 
which got me back into running. 

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It was it was for to stop 
Soldier suicide because it's a 

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huge issue within the military. 
And so that was a hundred miles 

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in the month of January. 
And so that started me off with 

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like going from zero running and
having a bunch of carbs to 

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having zero carbs and running a 
minimum of like 3 plus miles a 

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day. 
The first week, it was a little 

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rough because I hadn't ran in 
forever. 

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And then obviously I had was 
having zero car like Trace carbs

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from like some eggs or whatever 
and some didn't some raw dairy, 

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but But then you have first 
couple weeks. 

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It was like it was all three 
miles every day and then I got 

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up to four miles and then 
randomly a 5-mile run. 

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And then so I've kind of just 
been increasing it and I'll 

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throw some higher. 
Run days in there. 

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Seven, eight, nine, ten, miles, 
randomly, depending on how I 

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feel. 
See I was not like, I didn't run

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it all man. 
I ran in. 

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Like Middle School, track and 
then I didn't run for years and 

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then I listened to the David 
Goggins on Joe Rogan. 

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And then after that, I signed up
for a marathon, right? 

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My Marathon was Zero training. 
That was the first time I'd run 

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in years and then shortly 
thereafter is when you and brain

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is are doing the one mile a day,
which will actually let me back.

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Then I started doing, I did that
Marathon, but I felt like total 

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crap afterwards because I hadn't
trained. 

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So then I started doing a mile a
day. 

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And then the next week was two 
miles and then three miles. 

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And I just increase it every 
week. 

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I was doing like seven miles a 
day, I think. 

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But then I broke my toe lifting 
so that I couldn't run for a 

451
00:26:03,708 --> 00:26:06,700
while and then y'all did the one
mile a day and that y'all did 

452
00:26:06,700 --> 00:26:08,400
that for the first time in what 
2020? 

453
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,700
I think. 
Yes, and then so I didn't do it 

454
00:26:11,700 --> 00:26:13,800
2020 but I saw y'all don't know.
It's pretty cool. 

455
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:18,400
So I did it in 2021 and then I 
also did add that 50 mile March,

456
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,300
you know for the veterans. 
That was super cool and and I've

457
00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,500
been doing it the one my day, 
since then. 

458
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:27,900
So I've been doing it all so far
this year, but I think what I'm 

459
00:26:27,900 --> 00:26:32,400
going to do is I've got that 
David Goggins four by four by 

460
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,100
forty eight this weekend. 
I'm going to do that. 

461
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,100
Yeah, I saw that on your 7 set 
Sunday. 

462
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,900
Yeah. 
I'm excited about that for sure.

463
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:43,000
But I think after that I'm not 
gonna do the the one mile a day 

464
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,500
because I'm going to start a 
bodybuilding prep later this 

465
00:26:46,500 --> 00:26:49,000
year. 
And Want to be doing a run every

466
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,600
single day and that, that be 
like my Baseline for cardio that

467
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,300
have to go and add to. 
I want to basically just be 

468
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,600
doing very minimal cardio and 
then manipulate to kind of 

469
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,100
optimize for the bodybuilding 
prep, because it's probably not 

470
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:03,800
ideal from a bodybuilding 
standpoint to be running every 

471
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:07,500
single day and lifting if you're
trying to minimize the minimum 

472
00:27:07,900 --> 00:27:10,200
effective dose for a cardio, if 
that makes sense. 

473
00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:13,800
So it makes total sense. 
And I've definitely thought 

474
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:19,800
about that as well. cuz and I 
thought about that in years past

475
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,800
when I was running so much that 
basically, you know, my body is 

476
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:33,300
getting used to All this running
in exercise in eating 

477
00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:35,900
intuitively. 
Like there's some days I eat 

478
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:39,100
more than other days depending 
on how I'm feeling I feel and 

479
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:44,100
whether I feel like I need to 
get more more food in but I'm 

480
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,400
basically causing a where this 
is going to be my base line. 

481
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,600
And so when I stop running so 
much, I'm definitely going to 

482
00:27:53,608 --> 00:27:55,500
have to make make some 
adjustments and that's 

483
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:57,800
something. 
I had to do last year, when I 

484
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,200
started with the coach was, I 
told them. 

485
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,300
I was like, look, this. 
So I'm doing. 

486
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:09,600
And so we get, when we 
originally we set up my my diet.

487
00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:15,400
We had to do some tweaks here 
and there because he asked me to

488
00:28:15,408 --> 00:28:20,600
stop doing so much and so we did
and then we were able to 

489
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:26,900
eventually bring up, bring up my
up my calories first. 

490
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:32,300
A little bit. 
Now, you know, while I was 

491
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:36,900
decreasing, we're trying to just
find a baseline because I had so

492
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:41,600
much activity, like, right now. 
My, so here's the thing with the

493
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,200
keto brick. 
If I hit 20,000 steps in a day 

494
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400
on my watch, I get a whole keto 
brick. 

495
00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:51,100
If I don't only get a half a 
kilo brick, but the thing is, 

496
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:55,500
when I'm at work. 
Where my office is, I can't have

497
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:59,500
my watch on there. 
So I got nothing tracking my 

498
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:04,200
steps. 
So I have to get 20,000 steps - 

499
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,600
Let's say seven hours in the 
office. 

500
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:11,500
So I'm not counting any of those
steps it. 

501
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,200
I have to hit 20 on my watch. 
So it's either I'm getting 20 

502
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,600
before I go into the office was 
like, right now. 

503
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,800
I'm at 16,000 240 didn't have my
watch on all day at work. 

504
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,600
And so I still got some work to 
do if I want. 

505
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:27,200
And I haven't had any of Aikido 
break today. 

506
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,400
So normally have half in the 
morning or morning afternoon, 

507
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,800
time frame and then half after 
my last meal of the day at like 

508
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:40,000
6:00. 30. 
So ya wanna kill ravana. 

509
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,900
If I only ever want a full cure,
I got to get to, I gotta get an 

510
00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:46,000
extra four thousand steps, but 
they'll probably take the kids 

511
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,200
for a walk later because it's 50
degrees outside. 

512
00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,000
Yeah. 
No, that's cool though, man. 

513
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000
I mean, I think, like, I love 
the daily running. 

514
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,100
Like, I've learned to love it, 
like, it's therapeutic formats. 

515
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,800
When I do a lot of my best 
thinking, I don't think I could 

516
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,100
give up running again, 
completely, like I had prior, 

517
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,900
but I certainly don't think. 
Think like I don't really think 

518
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:09,400
it hinders like anybody that's 
not trying to actually step on 

519
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:10,800
stage and Peak for a 
bodybuilding show. 

520
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,700
Like they have no excuses as to 
why they couldn't lift and run 

521
00:30:13,700 --> 00:30:14,400
every single day. 
There. 

522
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,600
That's totally doable. 
I've been for the past year and 

523
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,700
a quarter totally fine, but like
you like you and I both know, 

524
00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:25,300
having both competed if you're 
trying to optimize and you're 

525
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:27,700
trying to like be a strategic as
you can with the cardio. 

526
00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:30,100
You're adding to elicit a 
certain response in the body. 

527
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,300
It doesn't really make sense to 
run every single day because 

528
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:39,300
that's not having its Really 
adding to your Physique, in a 

529
00:30:39,300 --> 00:30:41,100
degree in honest. 
It's probably taking from it 

530
00:30:41,108 --> 00:30:43,800
because you're going to deplete 
some glycogen from that run. 

531
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,600
So it's honestly doing more harm
than good strictly from a 

532
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,500
bodybuilding peeking standpoint.
Correct. 

533
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:57,400
I 100% agree. 
Yeah, because and you you hit it

534
00:30:58,500 --> 00:31:03,400
nail on the head or whatever 
that phrases that you basically 

535
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,800
would have to do cardio on top 
of that. 

536
00:31:06,900 --> 00:31:09,300
So you're so before you start 
your competition prep. 

537
00:31:09,300 --> 00:31:12,500
You're probably going to cut 
down the running, get your body 

538
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:16,600
used to. 
That without get your body used 

539
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,600
to not doing the extra work, 
right. 

540
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,400
Exactly before you start and 
then you'll figure out your 

541
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,700
Baseline there before starting 
your prep, right? 

542
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:29,500
Yep. 
Exactly. 

543
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,700
So yeah, probably if I'm gonna 
do the four by four by forty 

544
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,400
eight this weekend and then I'll
probably use that kind of as 

545
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Like the quote unquote finish 
line to the Daily runs and then 

546
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,400
going forward from there. 
What I'll probably do is only 

547
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,800
run on days. 
Don't lift. 

548
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,500
So if I take two days off a week
from from lifting, I'll probably

549
00:31:49,500 --> 00:31:52,200
do a run then it may be a 
slightly longer run. 

550
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:55,700
Like I'm a run, you know, two or
three miles instead of one mile,

551
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,400
but that probably be the extent 
of my weekly running. 

552
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:03,900
Yeah. 
So it's kind of a plan there. 

553
00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:06,500
I'm kind of curious to see if my
liftings impact. 

554
00:32:06,500 --> 00:32:09,600
I don't think I'm gonna get a 
gain any strength by not running

555
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:11,600
every single day. 
But I feel like I'll probably 

556
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,000
just get a slightly better pump 
and fill out a little bit more 

557
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,100
each day because right now I'm 
lifting in the morning and 

558
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:20,600
running in the afternoon, and 
I'm not it's like I'm depleting 

559
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,300
a ton of glycogen with the daily
runs, but when you're not taking

560
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:25,300
in carbs and you're only relying
on. 

561
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:28,400
I mean when you're keto, you're 
not tapping into your glycogen 

562
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200
near as much and you are very 
muscle sparing. 

563
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,600
If you're doing like two-a-days 
one in the morning, one in the 

564
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,500
afternoon, you're certainly not 
giving your body optimal amount 

565
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:44,000
of time to replenish glycogen. 
Oh, for sure, and that I've been

566
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,200
horrible. 
People call me crazy because 

567
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,700
I've been running in the morning
and then if I'm up early enough 

568
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,100
and I don't have to take away 
time from my family in the 

569
00:32:54,100 --> 00:32:56,900
afternoon. 
I'll go to the gym afterwards. 

570
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,100
Yeah and give my lifted so that 
when I'm done with work, I can 

571
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,300
just come straight home and 
spend time with the family. 

572
00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:05,700
Do you notice getting a better 
pump? 

573
00:33:05,700 --> 00:33:09,500
If you, if you if you structure 
it in such a way that you have 

574
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,800
like 24 hours. 
Tween training sessions, like 

575
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,300
when you, if you lift and run 
all in one window of time and 

576
00:33:17,300 --> 00:33:19,300
you have 24 hours before you 
lift, again, do you notice a 

577
00:33:19,308 --> 00:33:23,000
better pump on those days versus
ones where you only have like 10

578
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
or 12 hours between your run and
your lift? 

579
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,500
I would say so, because there's 
been a couple times like when we

580
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:34,900
got snowed in, not really 
Snowden, but I went to the gym, 

581
00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:41,000
I ran worked out and we I was 
bored at the house. 

582
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,700
I was like, babe, I won't go 
back to the gym whore. 

583
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,800
Like horrible pumps, horrible 
workout. 

584
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,200
And and normally like I have I 
have really good poems II, throw

585
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:58,400
red and Real Salt and yeah, lot.
Before I go train and I'm always

586
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,300
down electrolytes. 
And so I always have really good

587
00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:08,900
pumps and but then but that like
I totally see a difference from 

588
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:14,199
trying to do it two days, 
lifting wise this horrible. 

589
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,900
Yeah, totally makes sense, man. 
Are you going to do that four by

590
00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:23,199
four by forty eight with me? 
So I was thinking about it. 

591
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,100
I'm supposed to be meeting up 
with some people at the Arnold 

592
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:31,600
from Super training gym or if 
this weekend that yes, this 

593
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,400
weekend. 
And I'm an hour away from it. 

594
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,600
Good thing. 
I didn't realize that or no was 

595
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,199
this weekend and we are so I was
gonna go up there and then I was

596
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:48,000
gonna meet up with piedmontese, 
he dies, so, That would be a 

597
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,699
good reason not to do the 4 by 4
by 4 T. 

598
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:53,600
That's a pretty viable reason. 
But yeah, I had definitely been 

599
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,800
thinking about. 
I definitely want to do it and 

600
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,800
then August, I plan on being out
there for the March. 

601
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,700
Oh, you can do the my marching 
August this year. 

602
00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:04,200
Yeah. 
Nice. 

603
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600
It's all my birthday. 
That'll be a good way to 

604
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,500
celebrate, man. 
So I definitely want to do that.

605
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:11,900
That, that was freaking intense,
man. 

606
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:16,900
Like I like that March was 
harder for me than that Marathon

607
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,800
that I did both was Zero 
training, but just simply 

608
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,100
Walking, 50 miles is harder in 
my opinion than running 26. 

609
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,600
Yeah, so I've done I did the 
Bataan Death, March Town, New 

610
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,300
Mexico where you got to have 
like, a 50 pound pack, and but 

611
00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:35,400
that's only 26.2 and that was 
tough. 

612
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:40,700
And now, I think I'm going to 
toss on my Ruck. 

613
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,800
I don't know if I have a 30 
pound plate and the 20 pound 

614
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,100
plate. 
I might just tossed it. 

615
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:49,600
I don't know. 
I might just have water and food

616
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:54,100
and snacks in there. 
Yeah, or I may put weight in it.

617
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,200
So what did you do? 
Did you just have a camel back 

618
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,400
or whatever? 
Ya Head. 

619
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,800
Like a little camel bag, you 
know thing, and I had a bunch of

620
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,300
relight powder in there, 
probably like 10 scoops of 

621
00:36:05,300 --> 00:36:09,600
realized that I would down every
two or three hours man. 

622
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,200
Like I don't know how I was able
to ingest all. 

623
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:17,400
Electrolyte, not have crazy GI 
distress, but somebody was using

624
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,700
it for sure. 
But yeah, it's basically just 

625
00:36:18,700 --> 00:36:23,100
that and then just Martian, Man,
but my feet are so screwed up. 

626
00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,100
I mean, that's why I was on 
crutches for several days 

627
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:28,000
afterwards, because I'm so 
flat-footed and over pronated 

628
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:32,100
and that I had like, severe bone
bruising in my feet, and we were

629
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:35,100
just walking on a shoulder of 
the highway the whole time. 

630
00:36:35,100 --> 00:36:37,100
So, over top of all that gravel 
and stuff. 

631
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:38,400
Probably. 
Yeah. 

632
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,800
And not good. 
Yeah, I so I thought I thought 

633
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:48,400
about doing it in uniform. 
I got to figure out if I am able

634
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,700
to do it, uniform with my boots 
and everything. 

635
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,800
I think I'm gonna try and go to 
boots next time on do it for 

636
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,300
sure. 
As I could, I got some really 

637
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:58,200
good tactical boots that are 
broken in. 

638
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:03,800
And so I thought about doing it,
like, in my air force fatigues. 

639
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:07,500
Those CPS. 
I got figure out if if I can 

640
00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:11,300
legitimately do that. 
How that, how that works from. 

641
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:14,000
Is it? 
Okay? 

642
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:20,700
/ Air Force instruction? 
So, that's an option or I may 

643
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:25,200
just wear those boots with. 
Shorts or something II. 

644
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,500
Mean, I have some goruck pants 
and stuff that are really 

645
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:29,700
lightweight. 
And so, I might do that it gets 

646
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:31,900
kinda chilly at night, man. 
Like I got a little little 

647
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,700
chilled for sure, you know, when
when the Sun goes down. 

648
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,300
It's an August. 
But I mean shoot you start, you 

649
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:40,100
start sweating. 
And if you're not hundred enough

650
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:43,900
you start having like all kinds 
of weird, Sensations, and get 

651
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:46,700
chilly. 
I mean, it's a, it's 

652
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:51,200
interesting, for sure. 
Yeah, so it's crazy. 

653
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:56,100
Before we ever met when I and 
when your key tobruk just came 

654
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,000
out. 
Back. 

655
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,500
Then when I did this, I had 
actually reached out to you all 

656
00:38:01,500 --> 00:38:06,300
and said I was doing the Bataan,
Death March and I was doing it 

657
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:11,000
full Quito and I was wondering 
if you guys would sponsor me and

658
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,400
yeah, you sent me out kitto 
bricks for it. 

659
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,300
I made some mini molds and that 
was like, what I snacked on 

660
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:22,200
during the rut because I did it 
all on keto. 

661
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,800
I mean, I had electrolytes. 
This is what Hagan, what, 2018, 

662
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,100
or something, then I guess. 
Yep. 

663
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,600
Yeah, it's crazy. 
It was right when you like first

664
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,600
iteration of the key to break 
came out and you sent me, I 

665
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:40,900
think a week supplier or what 
not to melt a melted down and 

666
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,200
just carried him in my bag and 
would jump on those while I was 

667
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,300
doing the rock. 
Crazy man. 

668
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,000
That's the yeah. 
I'm time ago. 

669
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,000
Long time ago. 
Well, what what I meant to ask 

670
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:54,400
you earlier. 
We were talking about it, but 

671
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,200
did you notice any benefits when
you were doing the carb cycling 

672
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:01,100
from like a lifting recovery 
standpoint? 

673
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:03,200
What are some of the differences
that you noticed? 

674
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,000
Or were there any with the 
carbohydrates? 

675
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,500
Like was there a benefit to that
for you? 

676
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:17,200
Oh, so when I look back on it. 
I mean, I always had I always 

677
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,200
had energy like going into 
training session because I mean 

678
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,600
I was I would have there was 
also I was having What is it? 

679
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,300
I forgot karbolyn. 
And it's just pure dextrose or 

680
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:36,600
whatever, like, during my 
workout and I was having carbs 

681
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:45,900
before after during my workout. 
but when I look back like I 

682
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:52,800
honestly Besides being in pain 
like inflammation wise. 

683
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:59,900
Like, I didn't feel any better 
than then I do now. 

684
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:04,000
Yeah. 
Like and that's the read. 

685
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000
That is the ultimate reason. 
Like I said, January rolls 

686
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:12,400
around, I'm starting back doing 
carnivore because my joints were

687
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,300
aching. 
So like my joint, my elbows, my 

688
00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:20,400
lower back. 
My my elbows in general and 

689
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,400
yeah, my lower back was the was 
the worst, but, and it would 

690
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,500
just be painful like throughout 
the day and stuff and I knew, I 

691
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:34,200
knew it was on the carbohydrates
and I have no, I have no issues 

692
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,000
with people having carbs. 
And I enjoyed it. 

693
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,600
I enjoyed having all sorts of 
all sorts of carbs in it. 

694
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,400
And most of it was, it was a lot
of rice, but it was all easily 

695
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,400
digestible Foods. 
Very similar to like the 

696
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:52,700
vertical diet and what not? 
And I'd have potatoes here and 

697
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:57,300
there too. 
But I just think it was the 

698
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:59,900
amount. 
I could feel that like when I 

699
00:40:59,908 --> 00:41:06,600
was, you know, around 250 year 
into 300 like I could def. 

700
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,500
There was definitely 
inflammation. 

701
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:13,900
No it all over like and I could 
feel it. 

702
00:41:13,900 --> 00:41:17,100
Like going to bed at night 
waking up in the morning. 

703
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:24,200
Just always being sore and I 
went at the beginning of the, 

704
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:27,400
the year, when I start carnivore
like, within a week, my like 

705
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,800
lower back pain, went away, my 
pain, in my joints went away. 

706
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,300
And you let all your strength 
and deflated like a balloon to, 

707
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:39,700
right? 
Oh, no, no. 

708
00:41:39,707 --> 00:41:41,900
No, I started and I get and I 
started running. 

709
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:48,900
So I think our I think our 
bodies are a lot more adaptable 

710
00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:52,100
than we give them credit to 
until people that all the time. 

711
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:54,700
Yeah. 
It's interesting to me because 

712
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:59,000
you get so many people like I 
genuinely try and follow, you 

713
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,100
know, influencers dieticians and
athletes on all in suspect. 

714
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,700
Because I don't want to get 
stuck in an echo chamber, but I 

715
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:10,000
see so many people that are in 
favor of, you know, like the 

716
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:15,100
flexible dieting approach 
touting carbs as like required 

717
00:42:15,100 --> 00:42:18,500
for fuel and energy and recovery
and muscle sparing and all this 

718
00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,600
stuff. 
But then I know so many people, 

719
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,800
myself included, but then I look
outside of myself. 

720
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,000
And I see people like you who 
are experienced lifters, who 

721
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,500
know how to track macros and 
know how to lift properly, and 

722
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:34,500
it's not like, You have any 
confounding variables? 

723
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:37,600
It's like not like you had 
terrible form when you were 

724
00:42:37,607 --> 00:42:39,200
eating carbs, and I have better 
form. 

725
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,400
So it's not like you can 
attribute that pain to terrible 

726
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:42,800
form. 
It's like, the only thing that's

727
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,500
really changed. 
The only variable that you 

728
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:49,200
manipulated is the inclusion or 
a reduction of carbohydrates. 

729
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,600
I mean, more or less. 
I'm assuming calories are pretty

730
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:55,100
well acquainted for. 
And when you remove the 

731
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:58,000
carbohydrates, you notice a 
tangible difference in 

732
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,600
inflammation like that, in my 
opinion speaks volumes. 

733
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:09,500
I'll for sure and again like, 
you know, maybe were were all 

734
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:12,800
built there for me. 
Some people handle carbohydrates

735
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:21,400
differently than other people, 
but I know for me like, I 

736
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,300
definitely feel better eating 
this way. 

737
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:31,100
And again, I have no I have 
nothing against anyone having 

738
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,800
carbs around the workout or 
whatever. 

739
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:37,800
However, they choose to do it. 
Because I mean back in the day. 

740
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,400
I used to be that one. 
I was like, I'd go buy a pack 

741
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:47,000
and like are heads or something 
and have that as my pre-workout 

742
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,500
card thinking, I needed it. 
Mine was a I would get those. 

743
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:54,800
I'll get You sticks, or I'll get
Sour Patch Kids and I would slam

744
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,800
one of those immediately after 
working out because it has 

745
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,200
spiked my insulin. 
You know, I owe. 

746
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,900
Ya know, the, I used to bring 
ice cream, I shake and my 

747
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:06,800
carbohydrate Source. 
My favorite used to be like 

748
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
white, bread and jelly. 
Hmm. 

749
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,300
Like I buy like the softest 
white bread, Wonder Bread, 

750
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:14,100
whatever, not really winter 
break. 

751
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,200
Is that stuck to the top of my 
mouth but whatever the softest 

752
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,900
white bread was and jelly and I 
would bring it to Jim. 

753
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,700
Every day and I would sit down a
moment. 

754
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,200
My last set ended, I would just 
sit down there. 

755
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:31,400
Drink my shake, my white bread 
and jelly, and just eat there in

756
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,600
the gym. 
It is kind of crazy like all 

757
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,700
these things that we used to do,
because that's what we were 

758
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,400
supposed to do. 
But I mean, honestly, I think 

759
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600
one of the biggest benefits to 
key to like take all of them, 

760
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,100
all the signs around, you know, 
the neurological benefits. 

761
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,500
Take all the science around the 
muscle sparing benefit, like, 

762
00:44:47,500 --> 00:44:50,200
throw all that stuff out the 
window and just look at it from 

763
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,900
like a life. 
I'll design standpoint. 

764
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,900
I feel like not being a slave to
the clock and having to eat 

765
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:00,300
around a certain window. 
Every two or three hours 

766
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:02,500
immediately, post workout or 
whatever. 

767
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,600
Like being able to just simply 
live your life and eat when it's

768
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,900
convenient. 
That alone is worth its weight 

769
00:45:07,900 --> 00:45:10,700
in gold. 
Oh for sure, and you said it in 

770
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:14,900
your, you said in your book and 
I and I had tested the same 

771
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:17,100
thing. 
Like if I hit that three hour 

772
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:20,000
mark and I did not have food 
around me. 

773
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:24,200
Like, in my mind. 
I'm like, I am losing muscle 

774
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,500
right now. 
Where's my food? 

775
00:45:26,500 --> 00:45:29,700
I need something right now. 
Why didn't you said that? 

776
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:31,700
You said that in your book you 
like would be. 

777
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:37,100
They were in danger if they 
didn't have food scene here 

778
00:45:37,900 --> 00:45:40,800
because I yeah, I used to Bring 
my food everywhere. 

779
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,300
And but if I didn't have it for 
some reason and it hit that 

780
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:47,700
three hour mark, I am like I am 
losing muscle mass right now. 

781
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:51,000
It's kind of funny though. 
How many people, you know, 

782
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,400
thought that way that that was 
the universal belief. 

783
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,700
I mean, you talk to somebody 
that's done something similar. 

784
00:45:56,700 --> 00:46:00,000
Like, there's automatically this
sense of, you know, camaraderie 

785
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,600
because you've both experience 
that same sensation as just kind

786
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:06,500
of funny how that that works out
in the lifting community. 

787
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:11,300
Oh, yes for sure. 
But the fact that I mean, the 

788
00:46:11,300 --> 00:46:13,900
fact that you're doing what 
you're doing now, you know, so 

789
00:46:13,900 --> 00:46:17,200
your your activity has increased
since the start of the year. 

790
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,700
I mean you're running more, 
you're lifting just as heavy if 

791
00:46:20,700 --> 00:46:25,800
not heavier and you have less 
pain and inflammation. 

792
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,800
I mean that that's kind of mean 
something. 

793
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,800
I'll for sure. 
I and I and I feel great and I 

794
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:40,600
like knowing no issues, 
energy-wise, none, but that that

795
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,600
time was and I think I met 
emailed you this, for message 

796
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,500
you this or whatnot? 
It that time was good for me is 

797
00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:55,200
solely because I needed the time
where I could and this was 

798
00:46:55,200 --> 00:47:00,700
repetitive over like 9, I guess,
40 some weeks, where, like, 

799
00:47:01,500 --> 00:47:04,200
every week. 
I knew I could have a meal, 

800
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,000
where I could eat, whatever I 
want. 

801
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,000
But that repetitiveness where I 
was able to do it and not go 

802
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,800
overboard. 
Like I would in the past. 

803
00:47:16,100 --> 00:47:18,900
That was huge for me and it 
helped me learn. 

804
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,100
How to learn and let me learn 
that. 

805
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,500
Even if I chose to have a meal 
like that today that like within

806
00:47:30,500 --> 00:47:35,000
a couple days like yeah, man, 
wait, may go up for a day or two

807
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:40,500
or but then it will go back down
and I saw that over and over and

808
00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:44,800
over again because that was 
that's that's where my huge 

809
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:50,500
issues were. 
In the past years ago, was, I 

810
00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:54,500
basically created a script 
mentality where like, We'll just

811
00:47:54,500 --> 00:48:01,900
continue to eat any any any and 
and whatnot and binge and stuff 

812
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:06,800
and I could count like maybe two
times. 

813
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Did I like feel? 
Like I am. 

814
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:13,900
Maybe I didn't need that extra 
cookie for dessert, like, but 

815
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:16,100
besides that, like, I ate my 
meal. 

816
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,800
Whatever it was and then I moved
on and I was fine. 

817
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:24,900
And so so from that aspect like 
doing the carb cycling, having 

818
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,300
that one meal a week where I 
could just eat whatever and line

819
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,000
it up with like events and 
things with my family. 

820
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,900
Like I needed that for myself 
like mentally to just move past 

821
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:43,700
that in my life, as I see it for
good and I, hopefully for good. 

822
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,100
So yeah. 
Yeah. 

823
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:46,800
I mean, I've got no qualms with 
that at all. 

824
00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:52,200
I think, I think we need to 
address nutrition through two 

825
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,500
different lenses. 
Like, there's a physiological 

826
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:59,600
lens in which case, you know, 
what is best for our biology. 

827
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,000
What is best for, you know, our 
gut health. 

828
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,500
What is, what foods do we 
respond? 

829
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,400
Most favorably to? 
I don't think there's any 

830
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,600
inherent benefit to 
carbohydrates from a performance

831
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,900
standpoint once you become fat 
adapted. 

832
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:15,000
So I feel like all this 
fear-mongering to people that 

833
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,800
say, Hey, you're not going to be
the best athlete you can. 

834
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:19,900
Be without carbon think that's 
all you know inaccurate so that 

835
00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:23,800
shouldn't be a factor that's 
playing in and I think people 

836
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,000
just need to figure out what 
what they respond best to in 

837
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,400
that regard. 
I think the other lens and 

838
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,800
honestly, probably the more 
important lens should be from a 

839
00:49:30,808 --> 00:49:33,900
psychological standpoint because
what works incredibly well for 

840
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:36,500
one person when it comes to 
their relationship with food, 

841
00:49:36,500 --> 00:49:39,800
how they structure their meals, 
their mentality towards certain 

842
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:43,700
foods, binging and purging 
Tendencies, you know, whatever 

843
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:45,100
they find sustainable that 
regard. 

844
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,600
It's going to be totally 
different from one person to the

845
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,700
next. 
I feel like that is all within 

846
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:52,000
the realm of the psychology of 
our relationship with food much 

847
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,500
more so than the physiological 
relationship with food. 

848
00:49:54,700 --> 00:49:59,000
So if you don't kind of, you 
know, look at those through each

849
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,700
end of the spectrum, each lens, 
you're not really doing yourself

850
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,900
any favors. 
Yeah. 

851
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:08,000
I totally agree. 
But I don't know, man. 

852
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,900
People people get so up in arms 
about what's best? 

853
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:13,700
And I feel like you have to 
distinguish between, you know, 

854
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:16,400
what are we talking about? 
What's best for because, you 

855
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:21,100
know, like if you if you 
benefited, you know, from this 

856
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:24,600
period of time which were eating
carbohydrates to if nothing else

857
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,300
illustrate to yourself that you 
can do it and have the ability 

858
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:32,500
to not overdo it, then the 
perspective you gain from that 

859
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,300
and the self-awareness you gain 
from that. 

860
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:37,300
I mean, that is Probably 
valuable. 

861
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:41,800
And if that's what you needed to
be better going forward, then 

862
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,900
you're so much better for having
hand that chapter. 

863
00:50:46,100 --> 00:50:51,900
Oh for sure am and because well,
I mean my family they don't be 

864
00:50:51,900 --> 00:50:55,900
cheated or nothing or 
animal-based or my wife and she 

865
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:57,600
likes. 
Stay classy like filet mignon 

866
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:03,200
though. 
Yeah, but for my wife and it's a

867
00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:07,500
sometimes it's a social thing. 
Like I mean because they do like

868
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:09,700
pizza nights on Fridays or 
whatever. 

869
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:13,200
I order barbecue. 
That's like my one meal a week 

870
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,900
that I don't cook myself. 
I just ordered. you ain't get no

871
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:20,400
sausages, get it dry and use a 
bunch of Redmond real salt on 

872
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:27,900
there, but I know, I know that 
time is going to come up like 

873
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:32,300
within the year where I can tell
my wife what she wants to do for

874
00:51:32,300 --> 00:51:36,000
our anniversary at the end of 
March and I'll probably enjoy a 

875
00:51:36,008 --> 00:51:38,900
meal with her and but I know 
it's gonna be alright, and so 

876
00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:42,800
let's move on and get back to 
what I'm doing because I this is

877
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:49,200
honestly I feel best having an 
animal's animal-based diet low 

878
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,300
in carbs and I body that don't 
digest vegetables very well. 

879
00:51:54,500 --> 00:51:59,200
And so I just Moaning, I don't 
include them really at all like 

880
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,100
and for so many years of eating 
broccoli. 

881
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,000
I just can't do broccoli 
anymore. 

882
00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:07,900
Yeah, so and I just I feel 
better like not including 

883
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:10,000
vegetables. 
I mean if I were to include a 

884
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,900
vegetable or probably be like 
Caesar salad that like at a 

885
00:52:14,908 --> 00:52:18,600
restaurant but it has to be like
a good, a good like homemade 

886
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,600
Caesar dressing even though it 
will probably have vegetable oil

887
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,900
in it, but I don't go out to eat
that often. 

888
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:26,100
So I'm having an sure, we do. 
Tattoo, right? 

889
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,500
Oh, yeah. 
I like the anchovies. 

890
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:30,000
Me too. 
It's good. 

891
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,100
So early a cops. 
They're like the not Cobb salad 

892
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:36,500
with chop salad. 
That's the blue cheese. 

893
00:52:36,700 --> 00:52:38,500
Yeah. 
I like selling the Winstone. 

894
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,000
Oh, wedge salad. 
Yeah. 

895
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,000
So, yeah, I'm pretty much same 
way. 

896
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,100
Like, I need that many veggies, 
Crystal likes, veggies. 

897
00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,300
So, whenever she makes something
with veggies, all, eat it, but 

898
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:50,000
it's like, like that's never my 
focal point. 

899
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,600
I do have some broccoli on 
occasional. 

900
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:55,100
Have some brussels sprouts, but 
they're always like sauteing. 

901
00:52:55,300 --> 00:52:58,000
Some fat and covered in butter. 
So it's honestly probably more 

902
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,200
of a fat Source than a vegetable
Source. 

903
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:04,600
Yeah, but love it, man. 
I love it. 

904
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:06,800
Well, what do you got coming? 
What's exciting for you? 

905
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,800
What do you have in the 
pipeline? 

906
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,400
That that's got you ramped up? 
All right, so we got to talk 

907
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,800
about next month. 
Alright, next, we know this 

908
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:18,700
month was meat and Bricks so 
you'll be plan, lucidly meeting 

909
00:53:18,700 --> 00:53:21,700
breaks for home up. 
Yes, and me. 

910
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:26,900
I think I had. 
I got some avocado, the other 

911
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,300
day. 
Pretty much be friends, though. 

912
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,400
Yeah. 
Yeah, pretty much 99% meeting 

913
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,800
bricks. 
So, what what have you noticed 

914
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:36,700
in doing that? 
Any pros or cons? 

915
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:37,900
What's the good? 
What's the band? 

916
00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:42,600
Yeah, so I started off, I did a 
phase because I was, I knew I 

917
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:45,600
was adding more fats and stuff 
because I ain't waiting no food 

918
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,700
or anything. 
I normally would switch up like 

919
00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:52,300
type of steak I had so I thought
maybe I'd have a leaner stake 

920
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:55,700
here and there and sometimes 
not. 

921
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:59,900
So I know my fat was probably 
higher on Sundays and less on 

922
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:02,900
other days. 
Typically when I was maybe 

923
00:54:02,900 --> 00:54:05,400
running more miles or something,
that probably have some more 

924
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,900
fats, but if I knew the next 
day, I was going to run more So 

925
00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:14,800
I did do one tablespoon of 
honey, which still my carbs were

926
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,300
under 30, even if I had a whole 
brick, really? 

927
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:24,000
And a tablespoon of honey. 
And then I was going to go up to

928
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:28,400
two tablespoons after two weeks.
And I think I did, maybe did it 

929
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,800
twice, but I didn't feel like I 
needed it. 

930
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,000
So I really didn't, I think I 
tried twice and that was when I 

931
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,100
had worked out twice, and I ran 
once. 

932
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,900
But beside that like I just 
stuck to the 1 tablespoon 

933
00:54:41,900 --> 00:54:43,700
because I didn't feel like I 
needed anymore. 

934
00:54:44,100 --> 00:54:46,800
Is that mostly for like just a 
flavor or what? 

935
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:49,100
What's the main bendtner 
motivation for the honey. 

936
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,700
How was your day? 
I was seeing like how I feel 

937
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,600
like especially like after 
running and then going straight 

938
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,900
to the gym, like I would do the 
tablespoon after my run before I

939
00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:04,900
hit the gym. 
I don't know if I saw benefits 

940
00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:07,200
from it or not. 
Like I felt fine going to the 

941
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:15,000
gym afterwards because I like 
with the Whole animal-based 30, 

942
00:55:15,900 --> 00:55:18,100
Paul Saladin was doing and 
that's why I was thinking of 

943
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,700
adding honey. 
And then so yeah, I did do the, 

944
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:30,200
the honey, so meet bricks, and I
didn't honey here and there so 

945
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,100
going into March so I This is 
definitely want to talk to you 

946
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:37,000
about. 
I was going to add Dairy back 

947
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,000
in, like, and that's raw dairy, 
because I took it out this last 

948
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,300
month, with the extra fat, from 
the key to break and stuff. 

949
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:50,400
So, like, raw, I have a, there's
a farm where I can get raw, 18 

950
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:55,300
milk, that's easily digestible. 
They have raw 80 cheese. 

951
00:55:56,700 --> 00:56:01,000
They have rocky fur or yogurt, 
Greek yogurt. 

952
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:08,100
It's all Are some minimally 
processed and stuff and then I 

953
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,800
also was thinking about adding 
fruit. 

954
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:18,500
So like berries and stuff. 
No, I was going to ask you what 

955
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:21,200
you thought. 
Yeah, because obviously that 

956
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,500
would raise the carbohydrates a 
little bit. 

957
00:56:26,300 --> 00:56:29,800
Ultimately, my when I was 
thinking about this like last 

958
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:31,800
year and I was thinking about 
like, what I was going to do 

959
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,500
this year. 
I just knew that I didn't. 

960
00:56:36,500 --> 00:56:40,200
I never wanted to go over like 
100 grams a day and I don't even

961
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:46,300
know if I so. 
Yeah, so I don't as far as 

962
00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:48,800
fruits concerned. 
It's kind of weird. 

963
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Like I don't understand why 
there's been this massive hype 

964
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:55,300
around meat and fruit. 
Like I know Saladin has been 

965
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:58,200
promoting it. 
I know carnivore Alias has been 

966
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,500
promoting it. 
I know liver. 

967
00:56:59,500 --> 00:57:01,000
I don't know, flipping hands 
actually or not. 

968
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:04,600
But like all these, you know, 
quote-unquote, you know, X. 

969
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:10,800
Birds and influencers are doing 
this meat and fruit thing, but I

970
00:57:10,808 --> 00:57:14,600
don't see any inherent benefit 
from a performance standpoint 

971
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,500
with the fruit. 
Like, I don't, I don't expect 

972
00:57:16,500 --> 00:57:20,600
anybody to, you know, randomly 
include a bunch of fruit and 

973
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,900
then have this miraculous 
change. 

974
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:23,400
Like, I don't expect that at 
all. 

975
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:27,600
Now, if you want fruit and, you 
know, you have it in moderation.

976
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,500
It's not causing issues and you 
just want to have that back in 

977
00:57:30,500 --> 00:57:34,600
your palette. 
You know, who am I to say? 

978
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:38,600
You know, I more power to ya but
I don't think there's any like, 

979
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:42,100
woohoo miraculous amazing thing 
that's going to happen with the 

980
00:57:42,100 --> 00:57:44,800
inclusion of fruit. 
So like that's what I would say.

981
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,900
They're like, I don't include 
fruit because I don't like if 

982
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:51,200
I'm getting to a certain number 
of calories to consume that day 

983
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:55,300
and I don't expect to have any 
performance benefit from the 

984
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:57,200
fruit. 
I would rather allocate those 

985
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,300
calories towards fats and 
proteins which I would see 

986
00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:03,100
inherent benefit from. 
So that's why I don't want to 

987
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:05,800
include fruits like sometimes. 
You'll have a couple berries. 

988
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:09,400
Just don't you randomly but it's
like well below 15 grams of 

989
00:58:09,408 --> 00:58:12,800
total carbs, you know, for the 
day, even with a few berries. 

990
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:16,400
Yeah, so that's kind of where 
I'm at with things crystals 

991
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,100
pregnant. 
She's 30 weeks pregnant and she 

992
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:23,500
has stayed below 30 grams, total
carbs throughout her entire 

993
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:25,700
pregnancy. 
The most you'll ever have is 

994
00:58:25,700 --> 00:58:27,900
like a bowl full of some 
berries, as well with some heavy

995
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:32,000
cream covered him. 
Yeah, but like, I don't honestly

996
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,200
have a clue. 
Why there's been this massive 

997
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,400
push. 
A fruit people saying that it's 

998
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,900
going to like, you know 
miraculously fix your hormones 

999
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:41,600
or ramp up your metabolism or 
all this like, you know, 

1000
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:45,000
frou-frou stuff. 
That's not mad help help with 

1001
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,000
sleep or whatever. 
Yeah, what I do seem, I see a 

1002
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,300
lot of people, I see a lot of 
people in the low-carb keto 

1003
00:58:52,300 --> 00:58:57,800
space that, you know, they 
experienced some acute benefit 

1004
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,300
from adding carbohydrates, or 
adding fruit from, like, sleep 

1005
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:06,100
and stress standpoint. 
But in this is a But those same 

1006
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:10,200
people are also under eating 
calories to begin with. 

1007
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:13,200
So their bodies already more 
stressed out. 

1008
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:15,400
Their hormones are already 
suboptimal. 

1009
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:19,400
If you're eating in a caloric 
maintenance or Surplus and you 

1010
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,100
have a healthy Baseline to begin
with, then I don't anticipate 

1011
00:59:23,100 --> 00:59:27,100
any benefit, you know, from the 
inclusion of, you know, a bunch 

1012
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:29,100
of fruit or carbohydrates, or 
something like that. 

1013
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:32,500
These, these people that are, 
you know, balancing their cycle 

1014
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,500
or something like these women 
that have irregular. 

1015
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:36,400
Cycle. 
Then they have a big bowls of 

1016
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:40,600
carbohydrates and their cycle, 
regulates, you know, acutely. 

1017
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:42,900
There are oftentimes the ones 
that are chronically under 

1018
00:59:42,900 --> 00:59:45,700
eating as well. 
And that's the underlying reason

1019
00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:47,600
while their Cycles messed up to 
begin with. 

1020
00:59:48,700 --> 00:59:52,000
Got it. 
So kind of a long-winded 

1021
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,700
response, but no. 
Yeah, because I literally I 

1022
00:59:54,707 --> 01:00:01,100
don't besides the key rubric. 
That is the only manufactured. 

1023
01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:05,400
If you could say, manufacture 
thing that I eat, like I don t 

1024
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,200
know, Kito snacks. 
I don't buy none of that stuff. 

1025
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:14,400
It's good heater breaks out. 
That's the only thing like 

1026
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,800
because the most of this stuff 
or like Al you lows and like, 

1027
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:22,300
yeah, so he just makes it makes 
me feel gross. 

1028
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:25,200
And so I haven't touched any of 
that this go-around. 

1029
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:29,300
Yeah, and I do have an 
occasional sugar free energy 

1030
01:00:29,300 --> 01:00:33,600
drink, and yes, it has sucralose
and that which I think, man, I 

1031
01:00:33,607 --> 01:00:35,700
mean, I'll have one of those on 
occasion as well. 

1032
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,700
You know, I've got the bricks 
obviously. 

1033
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:40,700
I know, I'm still the first 
person to person. 

1034
01:00:40,700 --> 01:00:43,900
Hey, look, You make sure that 
you prioritize wholesome, single

1035
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:47,200
ingredient Foods first and 
foremost, you know, because most

1036
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:49,000
of the products out there are 
honestly just crap. 

1037
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:54,200
I, it saddens me to see so many 
companies, you know, stooping, 

1038
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,900
so low just to improve their 
profit margin to the point where

1039
01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:00,200
they're preying on ignorant. 
Consumers and just simply slap 

1040
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:01,800
in the word keto on their 
packaging. 

1041
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,300
Like I hate that. 
That's why I don't use net carbs

1042
01:01:05,300 --> 01:01:07,700
on the label like its total 
carbon, the brick, you'll never 

1043
01:01:07,700 --> 01:01:11,300
see a brick labeled net carbs 
anything like, I don't want to 

1044
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:15,800
be Be dishonest or misleading at
all because every other company,

1045
01:01:15,800 --> 01:01:18,600
every other company, but most of
the companies out there are and 

1046
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,200
I don't even want to be 
associated with them. 

1047
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,600
I don't want to be doing the 
math. 

1048
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:27,500
I'm trying to make it as easy as
I can for my, for my mind right 

1049
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:30,000
now. 
As I take a break from tracking,

1050
01:01:30,900 --> 01:01:36,100
but no, my wife picked up some, 
some whipped cream for the, for 

1051
01:01:36,100 --> 01:01:39,700
the kids for something or 
another for like hot chocolate 

1052
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:41,600
or some homemade hot chocolate 
or something. 

1053
01:01:41,900 --> 01:01:45,600
And it said, Kita, wanna and I 
was like, this is the exact same

1054
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:49,500
formulation that it has always 
been with like one gram of carb 

1055
01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:55,100
and she's like, what said kito's
like it's the exact same thing. 

1056
01:01:55,300 --> 01:01:58,000
Yeah, exact same thing. 
They didn't do anything to it. 

1057
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,500
And all these companies that are
making these bars that have, you

1058
01:02:02,500 --> 01:02:07,200
know, if they've got, take, take
all the the calculus out of the 

1059
01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:08,900
equation, just look at the 
numbers. 

1060
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:14,900
If there is more, Rates than 
there is fat or protein, and my 

1061
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:19,100
opinion by definition. 
It is not even keto, so you can 

1062
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:21,900
do whatever kind of miraculous, 
you know, subtract the fiber, 

1063
01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:25,600
count the don't count the aliens
or sugar alcohols or whatever. 

1064
01:02:25,700 --> 01:02:27,000
Like to me. 
That's just not keto. 

1065
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,400
So, you know, stick that in your
pipe and smoke it. 

1066
01:02:30,300 --> 01:02:32,700
Have you tried the magic spoon 
cereal? 

1067
01:02:33,300 --> 01:02:35,600
I have not. 
They've emailed me asking if 

1068
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,400
they can sponsor the podcast, 
but I don't do podcast 

1069
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:40,400
sponsorship. 
So I haven't, I haven't done 

1070
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:43,600
that. 
Okay, I've heard good things 

1071
01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,700
about, I bought some for the 
kids because I was like, done 

1072
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:50,400
with them, eating sugary cereal 
and I was like, babe. 

1073
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,600
I'm just gonna buy it. 
Yeah, it's more expensive. 

1074
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:57,000
At least they're not getting 
much of sugar from whatever 

1075
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,900
cereal she buys them. 
So, yeah, I mean, really, they 

1076
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:03,200
really liked it. 
I probably wouldn't eat it 

1077
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,900
personally, because I've got a 
super strict standard on what I 

1078
01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:08,800
eat, but for yeah, in that 
situation, if your kids are used

1079
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:11,100
to eating cereal like the normal
crappy cereal. 

1080
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:14,800
You and you swap out, you know 
that for a better still like 

1081
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,100
that's 100% a good reason to go 
that way. 

1082
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:24,800
For sure. 
For sure, what else we're done 

1083
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:26,500
with. 
So what do you think it for next

1084
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:27,600
month? 
What are you planning on doing? 

1085
01:03:29,900 --> 01:03:33,500
Now, I don't know. 
So. 

1086
01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:39,000
I don't know. 
I may add some like berries or 

1087
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,100
something. 
I don't know. 

1088
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,800
Yeah, and I don't ever wanna 
come across and demonizing 

1089
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,800
berries by any means so like 
know. 

1090
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,100
Yeah, I takes that takes my my 
statements that direction. 

1091
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:52,200
I mean, it may be like this 
month. 

1092
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,300
We're like, you know, I thought 
I was going to add an extra 

1093
01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:58,200
tablespoon of honey because I 
was running so much and stuff, 

1094
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,600
but I felt fine like Just 
keeping my car's. 

1095
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:07,800
I made this like keep my carbs 
under 50 and next month and and 

1096
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,600
not go above that. 
And that's total carbs, 

1097
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:13,100
obviously, because I am doing 
the math to figure out what net 

1098
01:04:13,100 --> 01:04:15,100
carbs. 
It, carves. 

1099
01:04:15,100 --> 01:04:22,800
It is no problem man, because I 
will I'm add the raw dairy back 

1100
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:30,100
in it, but I must stick to just 
raw goat's milk this month, I 

1101
01:04:30,100 --> 01:04:35,400
think. 
So, and then the real yogurt and

1102
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:39,200
some rotten cheese, but I 
honestly, I don't like, 

1103
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:43,200
including a whole lot of cheese,
but there are certain things 

1104
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,400
like sometimes on. 
It's a cheese to like eggs or 

1105
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:51,200
something, or make a chafa land,
wrap, it or piedmontese, has 

1106
01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,400
some amazing hot dogs that are 
like, all beef. 

1107
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,400
It's from basically, from steak 
trimmings. 

1108
01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,800
Oh, nice. 
And there's only like 10 grams 

1109
01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:03,100
of fat and like 20 grams. 
Protein in the hot dog. 

1110
01:05:04,200 --> 01:05:07,000
Have you ever like they remind 
me of like or like it will 

1111
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:10,900
polish hot dog that you could 
get it, like, Costco back in the

1112
01:05:10,900 --> 01:05:14,400
day. 
Yeah, but it's like 10 grams of 

1113
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,100
fat, 21 grams of protein. 
I think there's a like one gram 

1114
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:19,900
of carb or something, but 
they're super good. 

1115
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:24,600
But my wife, she's about a half 
a cow, so I was playing Tetris 

1116
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,100
yesterday in In the deep 
freezer. 

1117
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:33,700
Trying to put it all in there. 
She got it from a local Farmer. 

1118
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,400
They do grass-fed, don't think I
don't think it's brass finish 

1119
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:45,000
but from a local place, where 
she's from and Kentucky, so I'm 

1120
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,200
pretty excited about that. 
That's awesome. 

1121
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:52,300
And we we gotta count and I 
butchered it few months back, 

1122
01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:53,500
but it's in Washington right 
now. 

1123
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:56,000
So, I've got my half cows in 
Washington state. 

1124
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:59,500
So I gotta find a way to get To 
Arkansas, that's my home state. 

1125
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1126
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:03,500
Well, if you're, if you're back 
in town swing by and get my half

1127
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:05,800
a cow. 
Yeah, we could travel across 

1128
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,600
country. 
It be a road trip. 

1129
01:06:07,700 --> 01:06:09,100
There you go. 
I'm all for it, man. 

1130
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,800
I'm all right. 
I definitely, I need to figure 

1131
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:17,000
out a way to this year, to make 
it out to the compound and check

1132
01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:21,100
out a new spot and get some 
lifts and our doors are always 

1133
01:06:21,100 --> 01:06:22,600
open for you, man. 
We can get a tiny. 

1134
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,000
Go hunting to. 
We can go hunting. 

1135
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,700
We can do it all, man. 
I'm all for it. 

1136
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:31,400
I'm all right. 
I bet and I bet with my, my 

1137
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:36,100
wife's headed out the door and 
overseas in July for six months.

1138
01:06:36,100 --> 01:06:39,600
So So maybe we can do it before 
then. 

1139
01:06:39,700 --> 01:06:42,600
Yeah, maybe we can do before 
then when it is hunting scene at

1140
01:06:42,700 --> 01:06:45,800
season end, I will bow season 
ends. 

1141
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:49,000
Today actually, is the type the 
last day of bow season Arkansas.

1142
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,700
Are there goes until the end of 
February, but it starts up again

1143
01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:56,200
in like September. 
So pretty long season for bow 

1144
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,300
hunting. 
Okay, and that's that's only 

1145
01:06:59,300 --> 01:07:01,900
what you do, right? 
No, I do rifles. 

1146
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:05,200
Well rifle, season border. 
I think rifle season starts in 

1147
01:07:05,207 --> 01:07:07,600
November second weekend in 
November here. 

1148
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,100
Then it goes through, like half 
a December and there's like a 

1149
01:07:11,100 --> 01:07:13,400
weakened for like the Christmas 
hunt, three days after 

1150
01:07:13,400 --> 01:07:17,100
Christmas, but it's a pretty 
short season especially compared

1151
01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:20,500
to Bowen. 
Okay, so we can play in the hunt

1152
01:07:20,500 --> 01:07:22,900
and after she gets back from her
employment because I'll be due 

1153
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:28,100
for a vacation where I can relax
after being with kids for six 

1154
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:31,000
months by myself. 
Yeah, but at least make it out 

1155
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:33,400
to the compound before she heads
out the door. 

1156
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:36,900
I definitely want to try to plan
that. 

1157
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:42,200
Are you going in the Oz here. 
Yes, I plan on going to the keto

1158
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:47,100
Summit that, as long as it's in 
this far, as I know, it's still 

1159
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:51,100
happening that same weekend as 
the arch. 

1160
01:07:51,100 --> 01:07:53,900
Yeah. 
Akhil Khan, I'm not sure yet. 

1161
01:07:53,900 --> 01:07:58,300
Just because that's the same. 
Is that June or July July. 

1162
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:02,900
So, that's the same month, my 
wife leaves on her deployment 

1163
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:05,400
and I'm not sure exactly what 
day she leaves. 

1164
01:08:06,300 --> 01:08:08,700
That one might be a little 
difficult to. 

1165
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,200
The go to even if she's still 
here, I don't wanna leave right 

1166
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,600
before she leaves and I ain't 
going to see her for six months.

1167
01:08:15,700 --> 01:08:17,800
No, she probably wouldn't 
appreciate this. 

1168
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,500
Oh, but my mom's going to come 
down. 

1169
01:08:19,500 --> 01:08:23,600
So or I'ma drop the kids off at 
some families for that weekend 

1170
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,600
at like the keto, some at Omaha.
Nice. 

1171
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,500
Well, that'll be sweet man. 
I'm excited to be marching with 

1172
01:08:30,500 --> 01:08:33,100
you on them. 
And then we'll definitely link 

1173
01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:36,899
up get a lift in get a hunt in. 
Get a run in and do all the 

1174
01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:39,399
things man, grill steak. 
For sure. 

1175
01:08:39,500 --> 01:08:42,800
Oh, I know. 
I want to First Take Out of the 

1176
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:47,200
freezers dear, we can make it 
happen. 

1177
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:48,399
Man. 
Ain't no doubt about it. 

1178
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,500
Ain't no doubt about it. 
Well shoot man. 

1179
01:08:50,500 --> 01:08:53,300
I'm excited to have you back in 
the in the space back on on this

1180
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:55,700
this nutrition. 
There's everything I can do for 

1181
01:08:55,700 --> 01:08:57,700
you, man, you know how to get 
ahold of me for sure. 

1182
01:08:57,700 --> 01:08:58,700
What? 
Where do people go to find out 

1183
01:08:58,707 --> 01:09:01,200
more about you? 
And look at all the food, you 

1184
01:09:01,200 --> 01:09:06,100
can be posting again. 
Well, before I say that, I have 

1185
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:10,000
to say on here that after a year
of not having a key tobruk. 

1186
01:09:10,899 --> 01:09:15,100
And that that first bite, I 
think which one I probably chose

1187
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:19,899
the I think I did the butter. 
Maple pecan is my first one 

1188
01:09:19,899 --> 01:09:24,300
back. 
Well, so opening it you get 

1189
01:09:24,300 --> 01:09:28,500
that. 
Maple flavor just like bursting 

1190
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:33,000
out of the package, but that 
first bite. 

1191
01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:37,399
Like, it's not like I forgot how
good they were, but that first 

1192
01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:42,500
bite I bit into it. 
I was like, oh my goodness, like

1193
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,600
I haven't had one of these in 
year like this is delicious. 

1194
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:51,500
Like it was like an all-new 
experience that like I hadn't 

1195
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:56,300
had in so long. 
So I do guys say that Instagram 

1196
01:09:56,900 --> 01:10:04,400
is at, I am DJ web on Instagram 
and that's pretty much all I 

1197
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:07,000
like I got, I don't do no 
Tick-Tock Earnest. 

1198
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,300
And so yeah, I'm not a big 
talker either. 

1199
01:10:09,300 --> 01:10:12,400
People keep saying I should do 
it, but I just and that's what 

1200
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:13,300
all the kids are doing these 
days. 

1201
01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:14,800
I can't keep up. 
We do everything. 

1202
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,500
Yeah, I tried to do what I did, 
one of my daughter like she was 

1203
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:24,000
telling me a joke and I couldn't
figure out how to do anything on

1204
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,400
there. 
Like, I could barely figure, I 

1205
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,600
couldn't figure out how to like 
put music or cut it or anything.

1206
01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:32,600
I don't even do the reels on 
Instagram. 

1207
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:36,700
There's like a point with social
media where it's like like, I 

1208
01:10:36,708 --> 01:10:39,300
don't know like there's just I 
don't have enough bandwidth to 

1209
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:39,700
do it. 
All. 

1210
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:42,500
I don't have enough man with to 
be the business owner that I 

1211
01:10:42,500 --> 01:10:46,100
need to be the Additive body 
butter that need to be the 

1212
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:48,100
husband that I need to be the 
soon-to-be. 

1213
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,400
Father. 
I need to be and also be a 

1214
01:10:49,407 --> 01:10:52,700
freaking Tick-Tock dance star. 
Like I can't do all of it. 

1215
01:10:53,300 --> 01:10:56,700
Yeah. 
And the whole yeah real II still

1216
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:59,000
can't I try to do a real the 
other day with that broomstick 

1217
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:00,600
challenge, which I want to see 
you. 

1218
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:02,500
Do I really do it? 
I haven't, I haven't tried it 

1219
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:03,800
yet. 
But I saw one I did it. 

1220
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:08,100
But goodie beats that, I did it 
wrong because I brought my feet 

1221
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:11,400
from the side instead of like 
directly underneath me. 

1222
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,500
I don't know. 
I've seen people do it either 

1223
01:11:13,500 --> 01:11:14,900
way. 
Did you get EBT? 

1224
01:11:16,300 --> 01:11:18,900
No, not yet. 
I don't see you talking smack to

1225
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:22,800
you, but he ain't done yet. 
I guess it sounds laughing 

1226
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:23,200
about. 
It. 

1227
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:26,300
Sounds like good eats. 
I gotta get him on the stage 

1228
01:11:26,300 --> 01:11:27,800
with us too, and that'd be 
pretty cool. 

1229
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,600
Three was competing. 
I would be a lot of fun Sho'nuff

1230
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,400
man. 
What DJ always a pleasure 

1231
01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:35,900
catching up with you brother. 
If there's anything I can do 

1232
01:11:35,900 --> 01:11:38,800
just hit me up. 
Let me know and I'll talk to you

1233
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,900
soon, man. 
Hi Robert, I appreciate you man.

1234
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,400
I appreciate and Crystal. 
I don't want to leave crystal 

1235
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:47,800
out. 
Yeah, she's my better half for 

1236
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:48,800
sure. 
No doubt about it. 

1237
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,900
You guys, you guys are an 
awesome team and I'm so excited 

1238
01:11:51,900 --> 01:11:56,400
for you guys and Baby Savage on 
the way. 

1239
01:11:56,700 --> 01:11:59,700
Okay, he'll be here. 
You can't make it there and then

1240
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,900
you can meet him. 
Yes, sir. 

1241
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:04,700
Awesome man. 
Well, I'll talk to you soon, 

1242
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:06,000
brother. 
All right. 

1243
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:06,800
Take care. 
See you. 

1244
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:07,300
DJ.