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Well hello ladies and gents, 
Robert Sykes, Keto, savage.com. 

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And today I've got special guest
Dylan Abea on the line and we 

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dive deep into mindset and 
psychology around getting out of

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hard times, making forward 
momentum and just finding your 

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purpose in life and working 
towards that purpose so that you

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can find some sense of 
fulfillment. 

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He went through a tough breakup 
that kind of was the catalyst 

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for him to improve his health 
and nutrition. 

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He stopped his binge eating and 
just got his life together. 

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And these are all things that 
that we've all heard at some 

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point or another know to be 
true, but just kind of fleshing 

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it out from his perspective and 
kind of going back and forth as 

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to how we each as individuals, 
but then also recommend people 

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find their sense of purpose and 
stillness and clarity. 

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I think it's good to hear. 
So I'm excited for the 

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conversation. 
Without further delay, sit back,

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relax, enjoy the podcast with 
Dylan 

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and we are live. 
Dylan, how are you Sir? 

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Very well, thank you. 
How are you? 

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I'm great. 
I'm great. 

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Where where are you calling in 
from right now? 

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I'm curious. 
Lee in Borneo in Malaysia, 

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Malaysia. 
Very nice, very nice. 

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So we got connected via e-mail. 
I believe one of your team 

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members reached out to me 
pitching you as a guest on the 

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podcast, and you have definitely
figured out the Instagram 

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algorithm and drawn a ton of 
momentum there. 

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You're motivating people. 
You're inspiring people in the 

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health and fitness space. 
I'd love to kind of just dive a 

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little bit deeper into what got 
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man. 
I mean, you're you're a fitness 

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model by trade, correct? 
So I got into into working out 

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and into growing sort of posts 
on Insta through initially my 

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life, my personal life blowing 
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And I had to find a way to re 
channel all the things that my 

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personal life blowing up a 
breakup triggered. 

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And there's a couple of ways you
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in life and one is to go down 
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drinking, drugs etcetera, 
etcetera. 

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Or you can choose take the 
energy from all those emotions 

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that are triggered by. 
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your life into other things and 
I chose to re channel it into 

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working out and then channelling
and talking about my emotions 

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and my cope mechanisms that I 
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emotions, sort of writing about 
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And expressing them through 
photography, videography, and 

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writing. 
And then engaging with other 

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posts and other feeds that were 
of interest to me. 

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And I found that interesting. 
And I found that engaging for 

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myself. 
It helped me connecting with 

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different people, people who 
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I was interested in. 
And that gains again, as I say, 

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more exposure. 
People I would. 

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I would post their stuff. 
They would post my stuff then. 

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Again by accident, I had a 
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me which then increase exposure 
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I love it. 
I feel like the we all go 

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through dips and valleys in 
life, but when you're able to 

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channel that into some form of 
positive, you know, outlet like 

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training and proper nutrition, 
all the good comes from it. 

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Would you mind kind of fleshing 
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more, like when you were going 
through that break up when you 

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were at the the lowest point, 
did you like immediately know 

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that you needed to have a 
positive outlet there or was 

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there some lag time in in in 
finding then? 

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So that's really interesting 
that you cut to the chase and 

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you talk about dark points. 
And I think talking about dark 

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points, analysing dark points is
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So I talk about that on my on my
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the Dark. 
Moments and the dark thoughts, 

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because they're really key to 
like, not be afraid of because 

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that's where the gold is found. 
That's what the treasure is. 

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That's where you'll really find 
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And so to your so we're on the 
same wavelength, bandit, which 

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is awesome. 
So in that, in the moment of 

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breakup, I definitely had an 
epiphany in the moment of 

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separation that she wanted me to
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Lose it. 
And I knew that that's what I 

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wasn't going to do. 
So she wanted she wanted you to 

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fall. 
She had some malicious intent 

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there. 
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whatever reason, that that 
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literally in the moment, in the 
physical moment of leaving my 

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house, our house, to going to my
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I knew that that's that she 
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behave badly, and I wasn't going
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So that was the first epiphany, 
as it were, because I realised 

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at that point that that was not 
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wasn't going to lose. 
I wasn't just going to give away

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my life through being triggered 
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else. 
That's key, man, I feel. 

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Like, I've been diving a lot 
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letting things outside your 
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to speak. 
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people, especially people that 
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or significant other, if they I 
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be in your corner on your team. 
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would imagine stripping away the
negativity from someone that 

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close to you has got to be hard,
even if you are practised stoic 

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and things are outside your 
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Oh, it's it's gut wrenching. 
It's tough. 

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There's categorically no two 
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those facts. 
It absolutely is. 

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But to your point about sterism,
it's how you. 

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Responds to a situation. 
That's key. 

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And that's the only thing that 
we can really control, our 

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thoughts and our response. 
You would hope that the one that

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you love, or the ones that love 
you or your best friends or your

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bosses or whoever it might be, 
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But if they are not, where we go
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society goes wrong, I think is. 
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expectations on those people who
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corner to do the right things by
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But what I mean they don't. 
We lose it or we get upset or we

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get angry, but really what we 
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to respond to situations. 
If the people who we think are 

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in our corner all of a sudden do
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Aren't good for us, or helpful 
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invariably at some points 
somebody will do something that 

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upsets us. 
So the key is not to hang our 

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code on expecting everyone else 
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Really what we should be doing 
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situations if they're not the 
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have in our power the control to
manage our thoughts and to 

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choose what we think and to 
choose how we respond. 

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Totally agree. 
Is there any particular, like 

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people hear these things, they 
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Like, you can say that and we 
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response, but it's often times 
it's always easier said than 

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done. 
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this, personally, you left her, 
she left you, you moved back to 

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your folks house. 
Like what did that journey look 

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like? 
Like, were you diving into 

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specific podcasts or you know 
books or resources? 

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Like what was the catalyst for 
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road map as far as how to get 
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Didn't have a road map. 
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came. 
I knew that I wasn't going to go

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down destructive route. 
That was a choice in that 

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epiphany, in that moment that I 
had leaving the place, that I 

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wasn't going to go down to a 
destructive route because I knew

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that's what she wanted and I 
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good for me. 
It gets me nowhere and it gets 

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you nowhere. 
Being upset gets you nowhere 

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being frustrated, sad, etcetera.
You're going to have these 

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feelings. 
But to act on them doesn't get 

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you anywhere. 
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moment where I was like, I'm not
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destructive route. 
I understand those feelings are 

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going to come to me. 
Instead I'm going to re channel 

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them into just working out. 
That was my initial first thing.

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Just be active, be not 
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you're. 
Ignoring your feelings, I 

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because I didn't do that. 
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that. 
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frustrated, or when I was 
anxious or when I was upset, I'd

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And really that was me making an
active, conscious decision to do

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something. 
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really, really key and when it 
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Like you say, everyone has read 
about what I've just said and we

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all know these things and it's 
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eating a chocolate Now I I have 
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I was 27 kilos or nearly 60 lbs 
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case of just I was addicted. 
To well wasn't it so as addicted

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it was just I used to go without
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and then I get to 3:00 in the 
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tired and need an energy boost 
and I go and binge on chocolate.

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And so now when it comes to 
those thoughts of a chocolate or

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having a cake or having 
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of sugar, I literally the 
thought comes to my head right I

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want a chocolate. 
I'm craving chocolate. 

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I want something sweet. 
I'm hungry. 

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I want to crank energy boost 
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I can allow that thought to take
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Or I can tell that thought to go
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And the more you tell that 
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you have to be actively. 
No, you silence that thought and

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you have to actively tell that 
thought actively in your mind, 

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tell that thought to go away. 
I'm not going to listen to you. 

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I'm not going to listen to you. 
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that thought and you. 
You make that thought quieter 

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and quieter, Quieter and then 
you put the chocolate down and 

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you don't eat the chocolate. 
And you do that once and then 

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you do it a second time, 1/3 
time it becomes empowering. 4th,

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5th, 6th time, 10th time. 
All of a sudden that that voice 

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that says have that chocolate is
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confidence you gain from 
repeatedly, consistently. 

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Being persistent with ignoring 
or quieting or telling that 

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thought to go away. 
The more confident you gained 

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that, oh, I can control myself 
from not eating the chocolate. 

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And you build your confidence in
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And then all of a sudden you're 
not eating chocolates, you're 

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eating an apple or you're 
eating. 

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Better food or you've started to
eat the nutrition plan or the OR

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that you decided to invest in as
opposed to the high calorie fat 

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saturated food that you were 
eating before you've actively 

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you act. 
I actively made a decision to 

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write I'm going to be enough a 
meal prep plan for a bit. 

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I'm going to invest money in 
that for a bit. 

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You you're actually doing those 
things and you're then you're 

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actively working out more and 
the combination of the two is 

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then showing results. 
Were you and then any type of 

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training or nutrition protocol 
prior to the breakup or was all 

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this like a totally new new 
sensation to your life? 

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I was all I always used to work 
out but never had proper 

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results. 
Because I was eating really, 

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really badly, I always thought 
that working out and being fit 

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meant just going to the gym. 
I never really understood 

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nutrition. 
In fact, my relationship with 

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food over the years has been 
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Yeah, I. 
Feel like really bad. 

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I feel like whenever you 
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same time frame as something 
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like the break up for for 
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create some form of excitement 
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distraction in the short term. 
But then as you're saying, once 

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you continue to do it for a 
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habitual and then you get the 
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benefit. 
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introducing something new, like 
for you bringing in this new 

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dietary plan the moment the 
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thereafter, like giving you so 
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the normal context that you can 
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distract you from the negatives 
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Absolutely, Absolutely. 
I changed Also, the gym that I 

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went to, I was really bored with
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I was working out a lot to deal 
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point in there. 
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going to this gym and people who
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question of like Instagram 
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reality TV show type environment
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in the modelling space, 
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further beyond just the 
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hazard and also actually 
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being fit, being healthy. 
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was the motivations to eat 
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they taught me more about what 

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was good for your your diet, 
what wasn't good for your diet 

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and so I learnt from them. 
You know, experts in these, in 

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in, in these, in this field. 
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change the people I was around 
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who you, who you surround 
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The conversation is just 
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I think one's environmental 

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factors is absolutely key. 
If you're surrounded by the 

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negativity, it's just going to 
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life and your thoughts. 
So just simply change the gym 

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atmosphere, change the people in
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All that is very much so key 
when it comes to, you know, 

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changing the environment. 
A lot of people kind of relapse 

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so to speak and they go back to 
old habits. 

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How did you hedge against that 
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inherently know the direction 
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trajectory you need to follow. 
Did you have any tendency to 

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relapse and go back into this 
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quickly that that kind of led to
the momentum to keep staying the

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For sure. 

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I had lapses, without a doubt. 
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lapses, lapses. 
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even the most, you know, Polish 
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by have lapses and we all have 
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when you are in those lows, to 
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you become aware of it. 
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through consistency, through 
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habits, you become aware of 
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point and that low moment and. 
Not being in that moment and you

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know the difference, and 
actually lapsing back into those

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moments should be almost used to
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you're in the low, you know it, 
you become aware of it, you 

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embrace it. 
Then you tell it to go away. 

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I was listening to interesting 

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podcast the other day about 
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experiencing a high, and I'm 
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true in reverse when you're 
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But when people are at the apex 
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they've accomplished and they 
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dopamine, they feel like they're
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unstoppable. 
They spend so much time, energy 

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and focus on celebrating that 
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have a a physiological dopamine 
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depressive low because they 
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driving them anymore. 
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through this podcast was to 
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Be conscious of it, but don't 
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such a zenith that it becomes a 
catalyst for you to experience a

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deeper low. 
So basically just congratulate 

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yourself, but do so in a very, 
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And I would assume the same is 
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not to put them on the same 
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Absolutely correct. 
Absolutely correct. 

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I think the key is to elevate 
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that you get to a more 
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sustain more consistently. 
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excitement, feeling down, like 
all these things are cyclical in

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So not, I think, just simply 
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I mean, one can't realistically 
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hopefully always be on a low. 
People certainly don't get 

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depressed and they seem to be 
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break free of. 
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objective in one's own life and 
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cyclical in nature, that you are
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And just to embrace those and 
try to lean on habits first and 

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foremost. 
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like I always tell people, if I 
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around me is falling down, but 
I've at least got consistency 

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with my nutrition and my 
training, that can be the 

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foothold that I use to climb out
of whatever hell I find myself 

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in. 
But if I didn't have those two 

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things, then I would likely fall
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So I think regardless of what 
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needs to have something that 
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that they can use to pull 
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depths they find themselves in. 
Absolutely agree with that. 

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I absolutely agree. 
When I find myself either 

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anxious or not in a great place 
so I don't feel good about 

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stuff, I go straight to the gym.
I hit the gym, that's my way to 

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my thing whereby whereby I can 
go and ALM myself, ALM my mind 

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and I fully agree with that and 
everyone needs to work out what 

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their thing is and. 
I couldn't agree more with that.

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But also I think it's important.
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or a big thing that I found 
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understanding. 
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things online and in socials 
about this as well. 

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And it's about energy, and it's 
about the fact that everything 

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is energy. 
Whether it's anger, frustration,

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sadness, happiness, joy, it's 
all energy, right? 

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And our emotions trigger 
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and it's our decision as to how 
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So I can I can for example. 
Be really angry about something 

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that someone has done to me and 
I can shout back at them and use

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my energy that way, or I can 
choose something different and 

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and understanding. 
Be aware where the fact that 

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it's our choice on how to 
respond is key. 

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There's this really amazing 
story in Buddhism that my mother

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taught me or told me like when I
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Brushed it off but it's this and
I think the Lord Buddha. 

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And this isn't a religious 
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Back in the day when the Lord 
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and teaching his teachings, he 
was gaining more and more people

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following him. 
I I call him the the original 

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Instagram or the manual 
Instagrammer? 

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He was, he was as he was 
teaching his following at 

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teaching his, his what he had 
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he was gaining more and more 
people from the incumbent 

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religion to come and join and 
practice what he was teaching. 

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So becoming Buddhist versus the 
incumbent religion. 

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And back in the day, in that 
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the incumbent religion were 
getting, some of them were 

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really angry about the fact that
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these people. 
He's not taking these people. 

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He wasn't taking anyone. 
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him because they were liking 
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And some people in the incumbent
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this. 
And so one day, Lord Woodard was

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under the Bow Tree, meditating 
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And this young man comes rushing
up to him and screaming, angry, 

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furious at at Lord Buddha. 
Like screaming at him saying 

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he's a fraud, he's a, he's a, 
he's a criminal, he's a liar, 

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He's all these negative back 
screaming at Lord Buddha. 

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Lord Buddha is obviously there, 
meditating. 

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He opens his eyes and he asks 
the young man if you were to 

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give me a present. 
And I don't accept it. 

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Who does the president belong 
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And the young man like confused 
at this most ridiculous question

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because like he's screaming a 
little bit the saying you're a 

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fraud, you're criminal, you're 
this, you're that completely, 

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well, I guess, I guess the 
president's mine and Nordic says

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the same with your anger. 
Yeah, I like that. 

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And so and so it's our decision 
on how we respond. 

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Lord Buddha could have angrily 
responded back and if he had, 

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the young man would be 
triggering and controlling how 

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Lord Buddha acted. 
Instead, he re channelled. 

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What the young man was trying to
trigger in him and controlled 

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how he responded the way he 
wanted to. 

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And back to your point about 
lots of different emotions, it's

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important to embrace sadness, 
anger, depression. 

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We all had these low points. 
That's. 

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That's part of human life, but I
think what's important for us to

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understand is to be aware that 
we can decide through our 

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thoughts and through our minds 
how we allow those thoughts and 

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emotions to manifest. 
And that's to understanding that

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all of those thoughts and 
emotions are energy, and it's up

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to us to decide how we want to 
use that energy. 

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Yeah, I completely agree. 
I mean, there's so many things 

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that come at us, especially 
since the Internet and social 

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media, like we're just inundated
with different triggers, 

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different inputs. 
And it's very, very easy to kind

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of let those initial emotions 
take hold and overrule objective

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thought and reason. 
And one thing that I've been 

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really trying to incorporate is 
having like a dedicated time 

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every single day where I journal
gratefully and then pray. 

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But then also just after I 
finish training for the day 

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before, I allow myself to do 
anything else, really. 

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I just breathe. 
Let myself return to a 

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parasympathetic state and focus 
on the here and now. 

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And what that has allowed me to 
do, as simple as that sounds, 

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has been absolutely 
transformative. 

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Like, I don't feel like a 
reactionary state towards 

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anything that comes my way in a 
negative way. 

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Like I I'm able to just take 
things in and then be objective 

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with how I respond to them and 
respond with reason and 

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rationale. 
And you're absolutely right. 

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We don't have control over every
input that comes into our lives,

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but we have 100% control over 
our response to those inputs. 

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And you could respond 
negatively, positively. 

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You can respond with a cool head
or a hot head, and how you 

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respond often times dictates the
final outcome. 

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So you you owe it to yourself 
and others to respond in a cool,

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calm and collected state with 
reason or otherwise. 

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You're just barking up the wrong
tree. 100% I I fully agree with 

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everything you said there, 
there, and and critically what 

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you said about living in this 
moment and drawing yourself back

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to this very moment, the very 
moment that we're in, because 

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that is a really powerful way to
bring your thoughts back from. 

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Distant shores, Bad shores, 
Choppy waters, bad thoughts and 

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letting and and and if your mind
is running away, it's a really 

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powerful way to move away from 
from those dark moments and 

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thoughts living and. 
Being grateful for this moment 

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here and now is a really, really
powerful tool And again to your 

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point, it's a really simple way 
to re centre yourself and that's

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another big big big point is 
that to keep things simple and 

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that is another. 
Another thing that I think a lot

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of people misunderstand about 
how to help themselves is that 

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actually the very simple, 
straightforward things can be 

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the most powerful. 
And to your point about bringing

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yourself back to this moment, to
the very present moment is a 

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really powerful, simple way to 
calm, calm oneself if they're 

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off. 
In a bad place? 

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Yeah, totally, completely agree.
I feel like that it's 

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interesting that we're recording
this podcast. 

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I I just finished a 33 week 
competition prep for five 

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different bodybuilding shows in 
which I drop my body fat down to

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3% and was very little calories.
And it's interesting because 

452
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,480
towards the end of that, I mean,
I just simply did not have the 

453
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:12,320
physical ability to, you know, 
be functioning at an incredibly 

454
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,880
high rate. 
So like, taking these moments of

455
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:18,520
stillness and tranquility kind 
of became a necessity to go 

456
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,680
throughout the day. 
Now that that is over and that 

457
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,360
mental weight has lifted, it 
would be very easy for me to 

458
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:31,320
just kind of go back to normal 
and allow myself to feel rushed 

459
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,400
and hurried throughout the day. 
But I've tried to lean on the 

460
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:38,120
same habits that were paving my 
way to success throughout the 

461
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,880
prep and taking those, you know,
planned moments of silence and 

462
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,200
solitude and do that now that 
the show is over so that I don't

463
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:54,280
lose that, you know, just that 
that transformational, I guess 

464
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,880
perspective that has come from 
that. 

465
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,920
And I feel like that that is 
key. 

466
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:05,720
Like when things are going bad, 
it is easier to fixate on what 

467
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,640
you know has to be done and take
those moments and just like pray

468
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,720
and meditate and whatnot. 
But like a lot of people, when 

469
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,120
things are going good, they pay 
that no mind, no attention. 

470
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,120
It's not on the forefront of 
their thoughts. 

471
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:24,760
But I think making it a a really
intentional effort about keeping

472
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,600
that as a constant in your life,
whether you are in a high or a 

473
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,280
low, is paramount because that's
going to keep those waters 

474
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,960
smoothed out regardless of 
what's going on in your life. 

475
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,040
Yep, absolutely. 
Absolutely critical. 

476
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,360
There's no two ways about that. 
I couldn't agree more. 

477
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:47,240
So on that note, do you have, 
like you know now that that 

478
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,320
breakup is is history, You no 
longer have the disordered 

479
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,680
binging on chocolates? 
Like, do you have like a daily 

480
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,760
practice or routine that you've 
incorporated in your life and 

481
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,120
maintain that you just don't 
deviate from in order to stay on

482
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:11,160
the straight and narrow? 
Well, I think that it's it's, I 

483
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:15,600
allow myself to be flexible one 
way or the other. 

484
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,320
I will work out one way or the 
other. 

485
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,920
I will make sure that I eat the 
right food. 

486
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,440
And I think that another thing 
that I think is something that 

487
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,680
scares, I think a lot of people 
is like, you know, the thought 

488
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,560
that you have to be military 
like. 

489
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:40,720
Position on point as if you're 
in some sort of boot camp type 

490
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,800
effort where you cannot deviate 
from the line in one second and 

491
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,600
I think that that for one minute
I think that type of thought, 

492
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:58,800
process or vision of what it is 
to eat well, work out. 

493
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,400
Have consistency. 
Be disciplined. 

494
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Always. 
It almost like scares people 

495
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040
into thinking, Oh my God, this 
is going to be a horrendous 

496
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:13,280
ordeal to have to like, go 
through, to get, to get, to get 

497
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,080
in shape. 
So I allow myself to be 

498
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,199
flexible, you know, it's not 
like I have to be in the gym. 

499
00:34:20,679 --> 00:34:23,600
At 6:00 in the morning, every 
single morning or six in the 

500
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,000
evening, if I have to be in in a
little bit later or if I have to

501
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,639
go in during the day or I'll be 
flexible with things, you know, 

502
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,520
But I'll just make sure that one
way or the other I will. 

503
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:38,920
I will go. 
And that comes through through 

504
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:44,159
having created good habits, 
because there are days I do not 

505
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:47,679
want to go to the gym. 
There are days I have no 

506
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:49,719
interest. 
In fact, a few weeks ago there 

507
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,360
was like a period of like 3 
weeks where I was like, I just 

508
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,240
don't want to go, but I just 
went because it was a habit that

509
00:34:57,240 --> 00:35:02,360
I created as part of my routine 
that that's where I go almost 

510
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:04,920
like. 
A creature and a nocturnal 

511
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,600
creature in the jungle or 
something, they just naturally 

512
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,040
go to their cave, or they 
naturally go to get food, or 

513
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:16,240
they naturally go to, I don't 
know, make their nest. 

514
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:21,480
It's just something that if you 
overtime create good habits, 

515
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:28,880
working out or eating well just 
becomes part of your routine and

516
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,640
that. 
It becomes something that you 

517
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,680
just do, like brushing your 
teeth when you wake up in the 

518
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,400
morning, like getting in your 
car or getting on the bus or 

519
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,640
getting on the train and go to 
work or having your lunch. 

520
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,680
Those aren't things that you 
think about doing, they're just 

521
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:46,520
automatically things that you 
do. 

522
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:53,560
And so in terms of routine and 
in terms of plan, it's more a 

523
00:35:53,560 --> 00:36:02,680
case of creating good habits. 
For my daily, weekly, monthly 

524
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:09,680
routines that I do as par for 
the course, that is more 

525
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,600
important than saying, right, 
I'm going to schedule 5:00 in 

526
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,600
the morning, I'm going to wake 
up, I'm going to go for a run. 

527
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,640
Because life doesn't always work
like that, right? 

528
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,240
Life ebbs and comes in, ebbs and
flows, and sometimes this 

529
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:27,320
happens, or that happens and so.
I think being a little bit 

530
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:32,480
flexible with that approach is 
important. 

531
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,280
So long as you've created good 
habits in your routine over a 

532
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:42,520
period of time, and you make 
working out, you make eating 

533
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,560
well part of your routine, you 
will just naturally deviate to 

534
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,720
them. 
Yeah, I totally agree. 

535
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,960
I don't know the exact quote, 
but one of my favorite words to 

536
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,040
live by, so to speak, is, you 
know, we all have these 

537
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,760
ambitions, these lofty 
ambitions. 

538
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,840
We all would like to look 
better, look leaner, be 

539
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,920
healthier. 
But we don't rise to the level 

540
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:09,280
of our ambitions, We fall to the
level of our systems. 

541
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,640
And having those habits in place
is crucial. 

542
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,320
And I think it's important that 
the habits that we have are ones

543
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520
that we truly enjoy. 
You may not enjoy them 

544
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:21,920
initially, if you were coming 
from a place of not having a 

545
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:26,280
healthy relationship with food 
or a background in training, the

546
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,760
idea of being active or eating 
cleaner may seem daunting and as

547
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,360
a negative. 
But once you get to the point 

548
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,760
where you truly enjoy the 
outcomes of those healthy 

549
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,880
habits, more so than you enjoy 
the temporary high that comes 

550
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,240
from deviating from them, it 
becomes much easier to maintain.

551
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:47,080
And if you have these systems in
place that you can always fall 

552
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,680
back on, the likelihood that you
will continue to trend in the 

553
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:54,720
right direction over time is 
significantly amplified. 

554
00:37:54,720 --> 00:38:01,480
So like I try to dissect my day 
on a regular basis to figure out

555
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,680
what day-to-day tasks I'm doing 
that are contributing to my 

556
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,920
overall betterment or demise. 
And anything that is not serving

557
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,600
me well, I try and intentionally
remove. 

558
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:16,440
And I think you know like we 
again we all know that to be 

559
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,160
true, but we have a hard time 
putting it into action. 

560
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,320
I mean so many people and I'm 
guilty of this. 

561
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,240
Like one of the things that I've
I just recognized yesterday that

562
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:30,880
I do as a habit that is not good
is check my e-mail on my phone 

563
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,320
if I'm out of the office. 
Like if I'm at my computer in 

564
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,480
the office, I'll I'll typically 
just look at my e-mail at 

565
00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:38,720
structured times. 
But if I'm out and about, I'm 

566
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,240
looking at my e-mail on my 
phone. 

567
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,920
And that just constantly acts as
a distraction for the present 

568
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,720
moment. 
And social media is is, you 

569
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:50,880
know, very guilty of that. 
Like people, if they took an 

570
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,840
analysis of their day, they 
would be blown away at where 

571
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,240
they spend their time. 
And where they spend their time 

572
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:03,480
is what makes up their habits. 
Yep, 100 percent, 100% agree. 

573
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:11,320
I I I think your point about 
having systems in place and they

574
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,000
were the things that were my 
coping mechanisms. 

575
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:18,800
To Get Me Out of low points and 
dark places for you to be able 

576
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:26,760
to things, systems to be able to
lean on that are part of your 

577
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,920
routine, part of your habits are
really, really key and figuring 

578
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:36,400
out what they are for you is is 
different for each person and 

579
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:43,160
that's what's key and once an 
individual. 

580
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:49,320
Learns what's right for them, 
works out what's right for them,

581
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,400
and it's a process to be able to
do that. 

582
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:58,240
Then putting those in place 
becomes far more natural, as 

583
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:02,960
opposed to doing something that 
somebody else wants. 

584
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,120
And that's another big, big 
point, right? 

585
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,320
It's it's figuring out what's 
right for you, what aligns with 

586
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,000
you, what you really want. 
Because again, to your point. 

587
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,600
What? 
What are you doing? 

588
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,960
What you're doing is what you're
doing getting you to where you 

589
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:27,120
want do. 
And that comes down to whether 

590
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:33,040
what you want is overridingly 
more important to you than doing

591
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,520
things that aren't getting you 
to that point. 

592
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,680
And if you truly have set an 
ambition for yourself that you 

593
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,640
actually do what that actually 
does align with you, does 

594
00:40:43,720 --> 00:40:47,800
actually does engage you, you 
will every single time choose 

595
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,440
the thing that puts you in the 
direction of where you want to 

596
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,560
go as opposed to not going to 
the gym as opposed to eating 

597
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,520
that chocolate as opposed to 
going out and getting wasted. 

598
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:02,880
You will always choose a thing 
that switch you further closer 

599
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,280
to that thing that you want 
because that's actually what you

600
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,120
overridingly want. 
So what you want has to 

601
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:15,880
overwhelm me, overwhelm what you
the distractions. 

602
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,560
And so people ask me like, well,
how do you find that? 

603
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:20,920
Like, yeah, I don't know what 
that is. 

604
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:25,680
I'm like, you do know what it 
is, because we all know what we 

605
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:27,800
like. 
We all know what we want. 

606
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:33,040
We just have to ask ourselves 
quieter my mind, I tell people, 

607
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:39,040
go go to a quiet room on your 
own, calm your mind, close your 

608
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,720
eyes and ask yourself, what do I
want? 

609
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,160
And the things that come to mind
are those things that you 

610
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,840
actually want, that actually 
align with you. 

611
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:57,240
Write them down, start to 
explore them, Start to do things

612
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:04,240
that you that that are to do 
with those subject matters. 

613
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680
And as you go along you'll do 
more and more things in that 

614
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:13,080
vein and you get to the point 
whereby you you find what you 

615
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,320
really want to do. 
That is your overall undying 

616
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,440
ambition. 
I think people know what they 

617
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,080
want, They just don't follow 
through with them. 

618
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:28,440
And that's and that's really and
it to your point where where you

619
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,520
have these overriding huge 
ambitions, they're too big. 

620
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,680
When they're this, like, I want 
to lose 100 lbs. 

621
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,240
It's like, Oh my God, that's 
like ridiculous. 

622
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,560
You just have to break it all 
the way down to little bits. 

623
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,760
And if it's really what you 
want, if you really ask yourself

624
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:57,800
what you want and you write that
down and you then take steps to 

625
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,480
small steps each day to get 
yourself to that big ambition, 

626
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:07,320
that big goal. 
At the end, you will find 

627
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:12,960
yourself doing more of what you 
want as opposed to more of what 

628
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,920
is a distraction. 
I completely agree. 

629
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,160
I feel like the distractions 
that we all face in life become 

630
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,360
much more. 
Prominent when we don't have a 

631
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:26,600
clear vision of what our purpose
and intentionality for the day 

632
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,760
is. 
And I feel like so many people 

633
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:34,000
don't give them theirs, give 
themselves the time to fine tune

634
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,080
what that purpose is. 
Like so many people are going 

635
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,400
through life right now without a
driving factor that gives them a

636
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,280
sense of purpose. 
Like I like waking up and going 

637
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,320
to work every day, 'cause I know
what I'm working towards. 

638
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,240
And that didn't come to me 
instantly. 

639
00:43:48,240 --> 00:43:50,840
I had to seek that out. 
But. 

640
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,320
Like you said, when if you give 
yourself that stillness and 

641
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,920
actually sit with yourself in 
your thoughts, you gain much 

642
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,680
more clarity as to what that 
desire is. 

643
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,120
And hopefully that desire is 
something bigger than oneself. 

644
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:09,120
Because if it's just 
self-centered, you're not likely

645
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,800
going to have the staying power 
to stick with it. 

646
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,920
But when you're actually 
contributing to something that's

647
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,280
working towards the betterment 
of humanity. 

648
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,120
And the world around you, it 
becomes much easier to adhere to

649
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:23,560
it and if it is a lofty goal and
you can finesse out and tease 

650
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:28,000
out the the day-to-day actions 
that lead to finding success 

651
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:32,040
towards them. 
It becomes very clear what is 

652
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,080
and is not necessary in reaching
that goal and it becomes much 

653
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,760
easier to remove the 
distractions that aren't 

654
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:41,840
contributing towards it. 
So few people allow themselves 

655
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,240
to be present in their thoughts 
because. 

656
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,680
I don't know if it's because 
they lack confidence in 

657
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:52,840
themselves or they're seeking 
somebody else's input, but 

658
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,400
simply having the confidence to 
be alone in your thoughts and 

659
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,600
actually tease out what those 
thoughts are and what they mean 

660
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,280
and how they impact your 
day-to-day is crucial, 

661
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,440
Absolutely. 
I think one of the big reasons 

662
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:11,160
why people don't find their 
purpose and are distracted from 

663
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:18,640
their purpose is because they 
are overwhelmed by what society 

664
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:24,920
says they should be doing. 
They are are over consumed of 

665
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,960
what society and their friends 
and their family and their 

666
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:34,120
bosses and their work people and
what the TV says and what social

667
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:40,560
media says is is what one should
be striving towards having and 

668
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:51,480
being, which is different from 
what a person may want. 

669
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:57,720
If society says the goal should 
be you need to go to school. 

670
00:45:57,720 --> 00:46:01,920
Get straight A's, go to Ivy 
League, go and walk on Wall 

671
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,920
Street, Go and get married, go 
and have kids, have your kids in

672
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:11,040
private school. 
Go on big holidays, shop in the 

673
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,280
most amazing shops, have all the
big brands. 

674
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:22,720
If if you're working towards 
that grocery list of criteria 

675
00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:29,360
that society says parts of 
society says are what you should

676
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:33,600
be achieving. 
When those things aren't 

677
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:40,080
actually what you want, you 
become consumed with the wrong 

678
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,640
things and you lose your way 
from what your purpose is. 

679
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:54,640
And then people forget 
themselves because they're too 

680
00:46:54,640 --> 00:47:02,160
worried about trying to achieve 
things that the neighbours and 

681
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,480
society tells them they should 
be doing because they want to 

682
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:12,600
fit in, as opposed to doing what
they actually want, what that 

683
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:16,760
what actually aligns with them. 
And this is where all the 

684
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,480
problems come from. 
Because of anxiety, of 

685
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:26,360
depression, of anger, of 
sadness, of jealousy of all 

686
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:32,920
these negatives come from them. 
The disalignment that a person 

687
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,040
will feel from chasing the 
things that they are taught to 

688
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:43,280
chase, as opposed to figuring 
out what they actually want and 

689
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:49,600
what their likes and interests 
and engagement and purpose 

690
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:55,000
actually is. 
How do you toe the line between 

691
00:47:55,560 --> 00:48:00,280
not being ignorant to the world 
around you, but then also not 

692
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,920
allowing the world around you 
and societies to subject you to 

693
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,000
its demands and interests? 
Like like the news for instance.

694
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,960
Do you spend much time watching 
the news? 

695
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,280
Does that create a net negative 
or positive in your life? 

696
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:22,360
So just to be clear, I was bully
traded by what society told me I

697
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,640
should be. 
I talk about this on my socials 

698
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,320
as well. 
Fully. 

699
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:32,400
I have to go to school, get 
straight A's, go to university, 

700
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:36,560
work on Wall Street, do this, do
that etcetera, etcetera. 

701
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:44,480
All these things fully 
brainwashed by that until this 

702
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:55,840
break up occurred and I started 
to reflect, think about things 

703
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:02,080
and understand well, I'm part of
the reason why that broke up 

704
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:06,920
occurred because I went into 
something with someone who I 

705
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,880
knew there were red flags, but I
ignored them because I was too 

706
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,080
hell bent on being in that 
relationship. 

707
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,520
Because that's what society and 
all my friends and everyone said

708
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,680
I should be doing. 
Because that meant that I would 

709
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,800
then fit into what everyone else
was doing as well and then then 

710
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,960
I would be accepted and loved 
etcetera, etcetera. 

711
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:28,760
Right. 
So I've been in the place 

712
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:33,840
whereby I was fully throwing the
line to what society tells me I 

713
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,240
should do. 
I was fully throwing the line 

714
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:44,720
into, you know, everything out 
on the news. 

715
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:50,840
And, you know, I think that the 
pandemic, for example, really 

716
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:58,000
brought to my mind how much 
nonsense there is out there that

717
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:03,760
we are fed from news channels. 
And that actually made me think.

718
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,560
I've got to know that it's out 
there, but then discern for 

719
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,920
myself what I think is right and
what is wrong. 

720
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,600
I know myself, I'm not a bad 
person. 

721
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:19,160
I'm here to do the right things 
for people. 

722
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:25,080
My intentions are absolutely 
positive and to help others. 

723
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,800
I might doesn't mean I always 
make the right decision, but I 

724
00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:33,280
know my intentions are 
absolutely pure in that regard. 

725
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:37,840
And so I have to see all that 
information out there, all the 

726
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,120
information that I am presented 
with. 

727
00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:46,120
And because I've realized the 
difference between buying into 

728
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,000
what society tells me, because I
realized and see what we were 

729
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,520
fed through the pandemic. 
A lot of lot of it was nonsense.

730
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:00,440
Some of it was, was, was, you 
know, you know, COVID-19 exists.

731
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:03,280
It does kill people who had 
underlying issues. 

732
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:05,880
But a lot of the stuff, that 
other stuff that we were told 

733
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:13,520
was total garbage. 
I now I'm more discerning on how

734
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:18,680
much of the news I'm taking in 
as real. 

735
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:25,320
I'm making my own opinion on 
those not just being blindly, 

736
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:29,560
arrogantly dismissive of the 
news and news channels because I

737
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,520
do listen to them. 
Absolutely, Because you need to 

738
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,480
know what's going on, but you 
need to just be discerning as to

739
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:40,040
what you're taking in so that 
you have more of a balanced view

740
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:45,160
as to what's going on. 
Yeah, I think the the more the 

741
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,320
more time you spend alone in 
your thoughts and being 

742
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,560
objective towards reality, the 
better you become at discerning 

743
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,360
what is not reality. 
And I feel like, yeah, there is 

744
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,280
a lot of people out there with 
ulterior motives that are there 

745
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,040
to try and sway you one way or 
the other. 

746
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,600
And it's so critical for us to 
not be swayed so easily. 

747
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,200
I mean, you have to be able to 
think for yourself. 

748
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,000
You have to be able to have 
common sense, critical thinking 

749
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,400
skills. 
And so much of that comes for 

750
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,880
just simply with just simply, 
you know, looking at the world 

751
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:24,200
around you in a present state 
and being objective in that. 

752
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:26,760
And I feel like if you're just 
constantly rushing from one 

753
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:30,640
thing to the next, allowing 
distractions to take hold and 

754
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:36,400
allowing anxiety to seep in, you
can't possibly capitalize on 

755
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,560
that objective present. 
You know, sensation. 

756
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,720
So yeah, I could not agree with 
you more man being more 

757
00:52:43,720 --> 00:52:46,880
discerning with the the news and
information that we're 

758
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:50,080
innovative with this key and 
then having structured times to 

759
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,800
intentionally remove yourself 
from it. 

760
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:58,520
Like if you can't make an action
that will reflect an outcome of 

761
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,880
that information coming in, then
how important is that 

762
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,520
information to come in in that 
instant if that is not serving 

763
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,320
you well or if you cannot? 
Impact it in any form or 

764
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,440
fashion, for good or bad? 
Then it's probably not an 

765
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:14,720
incredibly high priority for you
to consume it in the 1st place. 

766
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:21,320
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. 
And it takes, it's the skill to 

767
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:28,640
be able to become, to be able to
like become to be able to petite

768
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,040
information that comes in and 
information that comes in that 

769
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,800
you don't understand, don't 
figure, go and research about 

770
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:37,760
it. 
Go and figure it out. 

771
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:41,880
Go and go and find out what's 
going on and go and understand 

772
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:46,480
and understand the facts and you
know you'll go and do that if 

773
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,280
it's important enough for you. 
But I think that you're 

774
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,800
absolutely correct in saying 
it's it's key to develop the 

775
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:03,360
skill set to become critical, 
not critical in a in a in a 

776
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,760
negative sense, but to be able 
to critique, to be able to 

777
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,880
discern, to be able to make your
own opinion. 

778
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:17,840
And that's again something that 
we are taught not to necessarily

779
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,840
have, right. 
We're taught to just go along 

780
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:26,320
with what the conveyor belt of 
of what we're fed to be the 

781
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:31,120
case, as opposed to actually 
thinking for ourselves. 

782
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:33,600
OK, well, what do I think about 
this? 

783
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:35,280
What I think about how this 
should work? 

784
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,400
What do I think about what's 
just happened? 

785
00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,680
What do I think about how things
should be? 

786
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:44,120
What do I think about? 
You know, what's my own thought 

787
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:48,760
on this as opposed to just 
accepting what you're told? 

788
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,560
Yeah, 100 percent, 100%. 
Well, let me put you in the hot 

789
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,880
seat here, Dylan. 
What? 

790
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:59,040
What is it that is driving you 
to get out of bed in the 

791
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,120
mornings currently? 
What is your purpose at the 

792
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,960
moment and what is a distraction
that you have in your life that 

793
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:09,520
you knowingly are allowing to, 
you know, remove some of that 

794
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:12,920
for momentum that you know you 
need the correct course on? 

795
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:24,400
I'm super interested in 
impacting other people's lives 

796
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:29,560
for the positive. 
I'm super interested in helping 

797
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:33,040
people become the best version 
of themselves, whatever that 

798
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:36,640
version might be. 
It might not be anything like 

799
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:42,800
me, but it's more about helping 
an individual be the best 

800
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,520
version of what they are, 
whatever that might be their own

801
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:52,520
uniqueness. 
I'm super piper interested in 

802
00:55:52,520 --> 00:55:57,720
that the amount of feedback I 
I've had from my social over the

803
00:55:57,720 --> 00:56:00,640
years and I and I said, as I 
said to you, my social media, my

804
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,320
my Instagram is a total 
accident. 

805
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,960
I was never allowed on social 
media before my prior 

806
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,360
relationship. 
She didn't want me on Instagram 

807
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:16,400
or Facebook or you know, or any 
of these types of things. 

808
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,640
It was a total accident and it 
became a channel for me to be 

809
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,440
able to express myself, from 
which I got a lot of positive 

810
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,840
feedback on more how did you do 
this or how did you do this? 

811
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,960
Or, you know, I was at the gym 
just now actually and one of the

812
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:32,640
guys there was like, you know, 
you're, I want to do what you're

813
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:36,040
doing. 
I'm like, well you can, you just

814
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:43,160
have to decide and take steps to
work towards that goal. 

815
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:49,800
And so my drive every morning is
to is to work towards that. 

816
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:52,040
Now how does that actually 
physically look like? 

817
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,480
Well, actually I'm, I'm actually
super excited about the fact 

818
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,320
that I'm I'm about to launch a 
new website that is going to 

819
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:03,120
have an AI function on it that 
allows people to to ask any 

820
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:04,720
questions to the talks I talk 
about. 

821
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:08,880
And it will have quite a bespoke
functionality, AI functionality 

822
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,040
that that filters from all of my
written work to give them a 

823
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:19,960
response to help people wherever
they may be, whatever time zone 

824
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,240
to, I don't know from for inspo 
or motivation or whatever it 

825
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:29,160
might be. 
And so that is a channel whereby

826
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,960
a first level channel as it were
that I want to work towards 

827
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:41,080
building to ultimately as I say,
help people help themselves. 

828
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:49,920
That is super interesting to me.
That is super engaging. 

829
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,480
Additionally, like being out in 
Asia, I was spent quite a bit of

830
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:57,920
time in Bali as well and and and
learning and seeing a whole what

831
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:04,640
I call new economy of digital 
nomads and people earning money 

832
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:10,400
online, whether it be online PTS
or people on, you know Amazon or

833
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,040
running their own businesses or 
entrepreneurs. 

834
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:18,160
It's a real sort of energy and 
vibe as they say in what I call 

835
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,600
a new economy, an economy that 
is different from the 

836
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,880
traditional economy of let's 
just say Wall Street or banking 

837
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:34,200
or or accountancy or any of the 
traditional forms that we are, 

838
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:40,640
are you know beyond end all to 
to to work in. 

839
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:50,520
And so in in that sense, sort of
reinvention into creating a 

840
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:54,640
platform whereby it's not just 
an Instagram account, for 

841
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,960
example, but goes way beyond 
that to give people the ability 

842
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:11,040
to tailor asking questions that 
can help them in a more bespoke 

843
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,240
manner. 
I think that I think leveraging 

844
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,400
modern day technology, but then 
doing so in a way that brings 

845
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:22,320
people back to these fundamental
core truths like we've talked 

846
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,800
about is definitely bridging the
gap in a positive way. 

847
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,520
So those are all super exciting 
things ahead for sure. 

848
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,800
I really like the idea of having
so that people can go onto your 

849
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,440
new site. 
And then just pull back from any

850
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,560
of the the written word or 
content that you've put out 

851
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,760
there because you are definitely
reaching a massive audience. 

852
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,400
I mean you've got a huge 
Instagram profile and it's seems

853
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:44,800
to be growing on a regular 
basis. 

854
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:48,880
What what do you find as a 
distraction from this in your 

855
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,080
current life? 
Like do you have any notable 

856
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,560
distractions that is, you know, 
keeping you from moving forward 

857
00:59:55,560 --> 01:00:03,000
on this or no? 
There's there's nothing like 

858
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:13,680
well I I think ultimately it's 
the day job you know at some at 

859
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:17,440
some point I mean I I definitely
want this to be something that 

860
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:26,240
is again it's it's it's the 
platform isn't about me it 

861
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,480
genuinely isn't and I know so 
many I've had so many people 

862
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,160
come out you're not you're 
you're a narcissist you're like 

863
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,000
a self-centered you're this but 
I'm like it's this isn't about 

864
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,920
me. 
Yes fine I like nice pictures of

865
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:43,200
me on on my socials who doesn't 
right. 

866
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:49,040
But that's not the goal. 
The goal actually people look 

867
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,240
back in some of my posts, but I 
talk about my transformation is 

868
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:55,320
to show the difference. 
We've seen what was and what is,

869
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:58,080
but more importantly how you 
continue that. 

870
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:05,680
And so the biggest that's that's
something that is the big goal, 

871
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:10,840
right, to to have something 
that's bigger than just way 

872
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,000
bigger than just me. 
I don't see my platforms is 

873
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,840
about me. 
I see them really about about 

874
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,440
helping others. 
So that's the goal that I want 

875
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:27,000
it to become a full time thing 
and that's what I'm building 

876
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,880
towards. 
I love it. 

877
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,080
I love it and and on a 
day-to-day basis what's in my 

878
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,360
way. 
The only thing that ever is in 

879
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:41,000
my way actually is me. 
Yeah, that's powerful stuff, 

880
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,280
man. 
I completely agree. 

881
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,560
I think leveraging, leveraging 
your reach on social, getting 

882
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:50,360
people to come to truth with 
this or come to grips with this 

883
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,960
truth and reality. 
That's awesome, man. 

884
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,000
I'm excited for what the future 
holds for sure. 

885
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,680
And I think, you know, kind of 
going back to what you were 

886
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:00,520
saying about intentionality, 
like you know what your 

887
01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,080
intentions are. 
People may come at you and say, 

888
01:02:02,080 --> 01:02:04,880
hey, look, you're a narcissist. 
All you got on your profile is 

889
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:06,560
pictures of you without a shirt 
on and stuff. 

890
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,440
But like, you know what's 
driving you, you know in your 

891
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,400
inner in yourself, What's your 
intentionality behind? 

892
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,960
It all is. 
And if you can be at peace with 

893
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,600
that, then who cares what the 
haters are saying, right? 

894
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,840
And that's exactly, absolutely 
on point. 

895
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:29,360
I know what my intention is, and
it's not about the shallowness 

896
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:37,760
of aesthetics. 
Again, I I want to be in the I'm

897
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,560
trying to be the best version of
me and I know my intentions are 

898
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:48,360
about helping others see that 
it's possible to lose 60 lbs and

899
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,280
maintain it and continues to 
evolve and understand that it is

900
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:59,680
an ongoing day-to-day effort. 
You're absolutely right that 

901
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,520
those are mine says like I have 
so many haters come to me. 

902
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,120
I'm like, OK, I know where I'm 
coming from. 

903
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,640
I know what it is like. 
It's like, it's like the analogy

904
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:14,720
really is like, if you lie about
something, a liar for example, 

905
01:03:14,720 --> 01:03:18,360
when they're caught out, they 
will start to feel anxious, They

906
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:20,200
will start to feel bad. 
They will. 

907
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,120
They know when they're caught 
out versus someone who's telling

908
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:28,680
the truth, they're at peace. 
Even if it's in a horrible 

909
01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:33,480
situation, they can still be at 
peace because they know that 

910
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:37,800
they are telling the truth. 
Versus a liar will be absolutely

911
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:45,120
in a bad space inside 
themselves, and they know. 

912
01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:47,320
We know. 
We each know the truth. 

913
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:51,320
We each know our truth. 
And to your point, if your 

914
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:57,360
intention is right and pure and 
of your purpose, you can brush 

915
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,680
anything off. 
You can continue forward 

916
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:05,320
regardless. 100% ma'am. 
If you know yourself and where 

917
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:09,920
you're coming from, you are most
certainly empowered and you can 

918
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:11,760
be confident in that approach. 
So. 

919
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,120
Yeah, we're we're speaking the 
same language for sure. 

920
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:15,320
Man, I'm loving everything 
you're saying. 

921
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,440
Likewise, my friend. 
Likewise. 

922
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,400
Yes, Sir. 
Well, Dylan, where do people go 

923
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,280
to find out more about you, 
follow you on social and just 

924
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:24,760
kind of dive deeper into your 
world? 

925
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:32,280
So main main Protocol is on 
Instagram at Dylan Obeya and 

926
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,640
very, very shortly I'm going to 
be launching my new website at 

927
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:40,760
dylanobeya.com which as I say 
will. 

928
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:45,280
And the second phase will have 
the AI functionality whereby 

929
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:52,440
people can like ask questions 
and a bespoke Taylor Dancer will

930
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:55,800
come back to them from what was 
built in that space. 

931
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:00,280
So Instagram and. 
Website Awesome. 

932
01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:02,320
I will link it to that. 
Make it easy for people to find 

933
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:03,840
you. 
I really appreciate the time, 

934
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:04,920
Dylan. 
I mean, everything we've said 

935
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,160
today is stuff that people have 
likely heard before. 

936
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,760
They all know it to be true. 
But just simply. 

937
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,680
Kind of like we were in the very
beginning, surrounding yourself 

938
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,080
with the right people and 
consuming the right content that

939
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:18,080
keeps you in the right frame of 
mind is key. 

940
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,480
So for people that have heard 
this before, simply hearing it 

941
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,480
again, maybe from a different 
angle of perspective, I think is

942
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,720
super valuable. 
So thanks again man. 

943
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,880
I really appreciate the time. 
Likewise, I really, really 

944
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:31,760
enjoyed this. 
Well, thank you. 

945
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,400
And we'll talk soon, man. 
Take care. 

946
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:35,680
Take care. 
Thank you very much.

