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What's going on? 
Listen, James Roberts, Ike 

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sceeto Savage.com and today I've
got special guest Robbie back on

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the podcast. 
He is a former client of mine. 

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He got shredded, he did a 
competition looked absolutely 

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amazing and he recently got 
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year. 2022 and he has been 
dealing with some serious Long 

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covid, Long Haul symptoms. 
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podcast a few months back and 
she Dove deep into what she is 

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doing to correct course with 
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So I wanted to pick Robbie's 
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he's experienced, what, he's got
going on, how that's affected 

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his training, how it's affected 
his day-to-day life and 

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livelihood because this is 
something that I don't know much

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about and it seems to be very 
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the next. 
So I wanted to just pick his 

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brain on what he personally has 
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So I learned a ton from him, 
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Robbie, he's an amazing, dude, 
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athlete. 
He's a family man. 

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He's just an all-around great 
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So I wanted to, you know, 
honestly, just catch up with him

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and talk to him in a while and 
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this long covid. 
And so, without further Ado, sit

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back and relax and enjoy the 
podcast on my good friend Robby.

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And we are live Ravi. 
How are you man? 

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We are doing well, Robert. 
Nice to talk to you bud. 

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How long has it been since we 
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And you and I were working 
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But that was way back in like 
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It's been a long time, man. 
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We got you freaking shredded in 
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bit since then but we haven't 
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Yeah, since 2018. 
Really. 

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No it's yeah. 
As far as you know having good 

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ketchup conversation. 
Now I'd send you a little 

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something here and there and 
order some keto bricks and leave

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a note went out of order and 
that's, you know, your basic 

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stuff. 
But I know you guys are busy 

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because I follow you all along 
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So that, you know, let me know. 
You've had the big move. 

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Got some new place, new 
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Got a kid, I mean, you're going 
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We are definitely going for man,
will bring me up speaking you. 

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What else been new in your world
just to give the listeners, some

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context you and Work together 
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then you competed then too. 
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Yeah. 
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I needed some help getting the 
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been leading a ketogenic 
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before I got with you. 
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pretty pretty new you know. 
Not most people didn't know what

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it was. 
They had quote heard something 

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they thought but they really 
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So I had died. 
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really good results with it, 
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A lot of things for me medically
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I've always dabbled in 
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bodybuilding lifestyle, but had 
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always something that I wanted 
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I Was preparing to compete years
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accident that put My life on 
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weight, wanted to get healthy. 
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I mean it worked but not like 
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there's so much other stuff that
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information the constant up and 
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fat the whole work. 
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with some research knew, I could
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set my mind to something it It's
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So do of into that with amazing 
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YouTube just by chance looking 
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was back early on. 
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it up down the street filming 
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the early days of your YouTube. 
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you so well. 
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I decided to give you a call 
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then you help me out. 
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results went ahead and knocked 
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my wife were doing actual 
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word about Quito and how well it
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that kind of, you know, drizzled
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on YouTube so much on Google 
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the real world information that 
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experiences putting it in 
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lifestyle. 
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how intimidating it can be, but 
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differently. 
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The bodybuilding did that, that 
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into normal life and our normal 
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still raising that we're getting
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going on about their business 
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I have stayed in the keto realm 
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for years now and the reason 
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I don't believe that I think all
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little bits you know you don't 
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I can't tell you how many people
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years that the keto didn't work 
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it down into What they were 
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much. 
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more than what your body can 
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with them. 
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12%. 12. 10% that range 
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having muscle development and 
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potential over the years, so I'm
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had told me. 
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I, I want a little more, a 
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bacon on there if I can't, you 
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pounds and the only way that I 
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So that's just the route I took.
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I was able to put on about eight
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full still still plenty lean and
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So that for the past couple of 
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son who's back when you and I 
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martial arts. 
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the cage and fighting and doing 
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just super lean. 
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Because you know that really 
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you're an amateur and you know, 
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doing other things and he was 
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that because all it's gonna take
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going to be out so I'd like to 
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Dad you know the body building 
stuff you know can we train 

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together? 
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used to train together all from 
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And that's what we've been doing
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I've been working with him too. 
In him, we did the gym together 

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every day. 
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enjoying life, you know. 
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trying to get my oldest son into
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says never you know, there's no 
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I am gold set there and torture 
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that y'all do. 
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want it for himself. 
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this past six months, he finally
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he's gotten older. 
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He's like hey I need to do 

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Well you know what I suggest so 
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he's done very well. 
He enjoys it, he's hitting it 

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every day I can see his body is 
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this he's in his upper 20s with 
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Yeah, so it's incredible to see 
his body change and even my his 

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younger brother, he would tell 
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Dakota is going to be huge. 
He's going to be big like you 

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because he's naturally big and 
he's naturally strong. 

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weights and I'm like, no, it's a
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I've worked with my youngest son

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I've had quite a few people over

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the last couple of years that I 
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That's just what I love to do. 
I do it for free because I love 

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to see people change their 
bodies, change her attitude, 

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change her health, and all of a 
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this is something that I can do 
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is, is benefit them. 
So that's what I'm basically 

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been doing that and, you know, 
working full time, we still run 

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our farm, we still have our 
business at my wife is that 

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every day. 
Running. 

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And that's, that's the gist of 
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I'm just like you, I'm just not 
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We are doing any and everything 
and have been running 100 miles 

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an hour for years now and I 
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I feel like, you know, being 
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being living with intentionality
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So like you don't have to be on 
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admirable. 
I feel like I feel like social 

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media is great. 
It connects people from all over

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the world. 
There's so many relationships. 

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I've benefited from as a result 
of social medium, but I don't 

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ever look to social media. 
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downsides of social media is 
that oftentimes excludes people 

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from being the best that they 
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And I really thought that tooth 
and nail like I've tried to 

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double down and plug them even 
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because I'm super passionate 
about, you know, my neighbor, my

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next door, neighbor, the person.
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Absolutely. 
Do you like doing something nice

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That will never gain Instagram 

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recognition, but that's not why 
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first place. 
So what? 

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No doing locally me and I mean, 
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years ago because, you know, I 
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throwing stuff out there all the
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it's all consuming because you 
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do it and I'm like, you know, 
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many people out there to do this
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I do. 
I don't need to do that. 

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I'm just going to focus on 
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that I can physically, touch and
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To and have relationship with. 
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social media. 
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on there and you know, check on 
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videos and some other people's 
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for so long just to keep up with
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know, the awesome things you're 
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say, hey, and that's about it. 
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to deal with the who is in front
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difference in their life, 
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much. 
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how to literally get paid to do 
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single day from sunup to 
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one is a real thing and you got 
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your bills. 
So I do that as well. 

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Yeah, totally respect that man. 
What with you being? 

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In the space, kind of like 
behind the scenes for lack of a 

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better word because you're not 
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socially all that much, but you 
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with people on a local level. 
What do you see things? 

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Like, what do you see, things 
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Currently? 
What are some frustrations 

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you've had? 
What are some things that you're

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in agreements agreement with 
like, where do you see the keto?

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Low carb carnivore. 
Nutritional space going, so to 

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speak, man. 
I'll tell you. 

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Um, all right. 
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when I first First got into 
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It wasn't a whole lot out there.
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sure you may agree. 
Michael speak for you. 

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was like a jet going off. 
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information. 
A lot of people jumping in lot 

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of advice, you know, a lot of 
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how you can be a guru and just 
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only being around for a few 
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But anyway, all of that stuff 
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getting disgusted with it as a 
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well-intentioned. 
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well. 
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the normal regular person that 
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image issues for their whole 
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It's much deeper than just a 
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don't think they were taking 
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you come out with what I would 
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them, but I was calling the the 
keto police. 

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They're screaming and hollering 
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do this and you can't do this 
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And you and I'm well I'm like, 
whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, that 

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doesn't make any sense because 
Robert what I had found with 

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people that I work with, you 
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thought you, this is our 
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Oh, I thought you can't eat that
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can't do that. 
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Who told you that? 
I mean, number one, you are an 

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individual, and what works for 
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doesn't mean that it's going to 
work for you because your body 

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is set up different. 
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different. 
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Christian, your nutritional 
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different. 
You're going to be allergic. 

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You may have food allergies that
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You may have some other 
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If you issue, scuse me that are 
going to make a huge difference 

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in the way that you respond to 
this. 

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So I was seeing that a lot of 
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Jean, it videos of of 
influencers calling other 

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influencers out. 
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That's ridiculous. 
People need to sit back and take

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a dag on break and just breathe 
because it's just another diet. 

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Let's be honest, but it's a diet
that works for me. 

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It's a diet that works for you, 
Robert. 

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That's a diet. 
That's worked for countless 

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other people since it's pretty 
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a diet to me or to you, it's a 
lifestyle. 

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But for other people, it may 
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can make a huge difference in 
their life. 

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And for all the, the hate and 
the complaining and calling 

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people out and all the 
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each other. 
You'll get a recommendation from

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this person. 
Then you get a recommendation 

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from this person. 
That's the exact freaking 

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opposite who you supposed to 
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So that's what I was seeing. 
That was discouraging that was 

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another thing reason I just went
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media part. 
I'm like, you don't want to get 

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That and battling back and forth
with people. 

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I just want to take people as an
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them what may work for them, and
it may take us a while. 

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It may take three, four, five 
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out what food groups work for 
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know the work for you. 
Oh, and let's not let's not 

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forget older clientele older 
folks like myself it changes the

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keto lifestyle when I started in
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seeing now in 22 as it did in 
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my 50s. 
Where's before? 

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You know, I was in my 40s, 
there's a difference there, and 

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so those are things that we have
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many out there that were just 
basically saying it's my way or 

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no way. 
And I'm sorry, I don't agree 

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with that about anything. 
There's 10 different ways to, 

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you know, to process an animal 
if you will put him in your 

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fridge rater, my way might be a 
little quicker, but the next 

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person might might be more 
efficient, you know, I'm just 

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saying. 
There's Always a little 

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something we can learn from each
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That would be an angry with each
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Yeah, completely agreement. 
I feel like I've always said, 

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you know, there's more than one 
way to skin a cat. 

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I mean, I was able to get lived 
for competitions long before I 

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discovered keto. 
So to say that that's the only 

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way to do. 
It is just inaccurate and I just

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have no desire to feed into all 
the negativity. 

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I mean, I like the way I do 
things, I feel like my way is 

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been proven to be effective for 
countless people, I'm passionate

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about it, I'm excited to share 
that. 

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But yep, that's been my whole 
Journey. 

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I just want to document what I 
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others. 
And you can take that or you can

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leave. 
It doesn't matter to me, you 

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know, don't do as you choose but
I can I can deliver that message

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in a way that's not, you know, -
isn't it? 

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Yes, that's a rocket way towards
others. 

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And then the day like I feel 
like, you know I've been in the 

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space for quite some time now 
and I feel like if anybody has 

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looked at my content from the 
beginning as you have one thing,

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I appreciate people saying about
me is that I've been consistent 

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in my messaging from the 
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something that Yeah, man. 
Don Yep. 

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Yeah, but let me tell you 
something, Robert, you have been

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willing to learn over the years.
Correct? 

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No, totally. 
I mean, what good is it guy? 

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Shut my mind out to other 
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Exactly. 
But that's what you see in the 

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overall Market. 
It is my way or no way and that 

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has turned me off to certain 
people that I had started years 

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ago. 
Kind of you know just like with 

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you following and seeing what 
they were saying and try and 

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some of the stuff that they had 
said and I've cut them off 

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another words, I don't watch 
their stuff. 

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More because it's I'm not into 
that. 

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I think that there are multiple 
ways to do something and the the

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gist of the ketogenic lifestyle 
does have a set style of 

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parameters, but for every 
individual, it can be adjusted 

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up or down in either direction 
so that's how I look at things. 

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No, I totally agree men. 
I feel like I feel like at the 

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core, the ketogenic diet and 
lifestyle is, is pretty simple. 

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Like people really try to 
overcome that Yang's. 

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I mean, I can get into The 
weeds, I can finesse the 

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details. 
I can get things dialed in for 

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the individual and Peak for a 
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100%. 
Right. 

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But I feel like there's been 
this massive shift of over 

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complication and people wanting 
to Rebrand or redefine the diet 

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in a way that best suits their 
marketing style, which to me is 

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just, yes, bullshit. 
You know, that's what it is. 

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Nope, that's totally what it is.
It is one of sent the marketing 

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style to earn them a little bit,
more money from videos and 

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products that they sell. 
Yeah, yes we're speaking the 

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same language there. 
Um, I'm curious. 

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What has changed between your 
40s and your 50s with regard to 

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your nutrition. 
Let's see. 

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I've always been heavy meat 
eater anyway now, I mean, that's

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just how grown up, you know, 
that's the staple of my diet 

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during the Summers. 
When there are lots of fresh 

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vegetables coming out of the 
gardens and stuff like that. 

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And during that time, I'll be 
honest with you, I could be 

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vegan during the summer because 
I love fresh garden, vegetables 

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of all types but I love my meat 
to but at the same time and you 

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it's something about going out 
in this, the garden that we 

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have, picking all the stuff that
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end of the evening and my wife 
and I both sometimes, they look 

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at each other and go, you know, 
I could eat that around the 

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clock. 
I mean, no meat involved at all,

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and it's just so good. 
But for me, I would say between 

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my, my 40s in my 50s, I have to 
Again, more carbs did before, 

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believe it or not, you would 
think it would work, the 

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opposite that as you're getting 
older, you'd want to take can 

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less to maintain your, your 
overall size that your body 

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would get used to it. 
But it's like my body 

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requirements requires more. 
So I eat a lot of sweet 

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potatoes. 
I've been incorporating amounts 

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of rice back into my diet. 
You know, that'll be one time 

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during the day. 
Most of my day is going to be 

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just meat. 
You know, I lots of eggs, you 

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know, I have, we've got a small 
farm, so I have a freezer full 

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of all pastured meat. 
So I've got all the meats at my 

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disposal. 
I've got all fresh fish at my 

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disposal around here from 
locally and so that's the staple

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of my diet, I probably eat more 
carbs now Based on my body, then

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what I was doing definitely 
doing what I was doing five 

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years ago and that came at the 
encouragement of your wife 

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because she was wanting to put a
little bit more body fat. 

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You said, you know? 
Shoot look, my wife is so funny.

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My wife, like when it comes time
for your body building shows 

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because I still follow, all the 
bodybuilding shows, I'm always 

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wanting to go to local stuff, 
local events. 

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I just never had the time so TV,
you know. 

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I'll put it on and watch the 
highlights and from all the 

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different channels and You know 
my wife and I were having a 

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conversation one day about 
bodybuilding, you know, and I'm 

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I am objectively looking at my 
body and you know making 

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comments and seeing what this 
needs to be changed. 

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I need this muscle group to 
stand up a little bit more. 

446
00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:00,600
I need a little bit leaner in my
lower ab area. 

447
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:05,200
I'm going through all of this 
stuff and she made a comment 

448
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,000
about needing a little more, a 
little more meat. 

449
00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,400
I'm like, what sounds like 
really you should? 

450
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,600
So, you don't know, I'm looking 
at her. 

451
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:17,400
And let me tell you why this is 
from all the years of social 

452
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:21,600
media, it has been impregnated 
into my brain since I was a 

453
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,900
little kid when I used to get 
the muscle building magazine, 

454
00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:29,600
when I was a child and in the 
very back of it as show, that 

455
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,400
little cartoon of the skinny, 
dude, on the beach with this, 

456
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,100
you know, beautiful girl. 
And then the big bodybuilder 

457
00:24:37,100 --> 00:24:39,600
comes over and kick saying in 
his face and takes the girl 

458
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,400
from. 
Okay, I know that. 

459
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:46,500
From okay, so from my childhood 
that's what has been ingrained 

460
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:51,200
in my head to have a certain 
body image and that's what I 

461
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,600
have always enjoyed that image. 
I like that immature and I'm 

462
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,400
thinking okay the girl in that 
little magazine skit left with 

463
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,900
the big muscle dude you know ABS
legs the whole work. 

464
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:06,600
So in my mind I'm thinking and 
now today social media, 

465
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,300
everything is ripped to shreds 
and that's what everybody wants 

466
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:12,900
and likes. 
So I'm having this conversation 

467
00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:17,000
with my wife and I'm like, so 
seriously you want me to add 

468
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,400
some body fat and I'm thinking 
she's lost her? 

469
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,800
Freaking mind? 
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking 

470
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,300
and she's like, yes, I want more
meat on you. 

471
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,800
She's like you know all of this 
is fine for the stage but she's 

472
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,200
like I'll be honest with you 
it's uncomfortable laying my 

473
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,700
head on your stomach. 
Yeah it's funny. 

474
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:37,700
Like Christmas tree. 
I never thought about that. 

475
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,000
Yeah, crystal says the same 
thing, whenever I'm shredded for

476
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,400
a show. 
Like that's how I like to. 

477
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,100
Like, I like looking that 
really, you know, like that 

478
00:25:44,100 --> 00:25:48,200
excites me, but then, like, when
I'm That Lean Crystal, doesn't 

479
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,300
like how she looks next to me 
because like, I look like, I 

480
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,400
look emaciated when I'm at my 
best when I'm wearing clothes. 

481
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,900
Because, I mean, we're natural 
bodybuilding. 

482
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:57,100
You wearing clothes, and your 3%
body fat. 

483
00:25:57,100 --> 00:25:59,200
Like you don't fill out a medium
teacher. 

484
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,100
You look sick. 
You look small. 

485
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:02,800
They think you're sick. 
Exactly. 

486
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,100
Exactly. 
So like I get it but it's just 

487
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:08,100
totally flies in the face of 
what people that like you and I 

488
00:26:08,100 --> 00:26:11,500
how we think it's like okay they
want more body fat and then Our 

489
00:26:11,508 --> 00:26:13,100
mind that's more attractive. 
You know. 

490
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,400
It's kind of interesting. 
Yep. 

491
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:16,400
That's that's what I've always 
thought. 

492
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:21,200
I thought, you know, the leaner 
and the more shredded and the 

493
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,600
more volume of so I could make 
my muscles. 

494
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:28,300
I'm thinking as a dude. 
Oh yeah, my wife she's gonna 

495
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,700
flip. 
You know what I'm saying? 

496
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,000
This is will be awesome and the 
whole time. 

497
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,100
She's looking at me like I'll be
so glad when you're done with 

498
00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,000
this diet. 
Yeah, it's I see ads all time 

499
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,600
where it's like a memes. 
I guess. 

500
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,700
They come where like they'll be 
what guys think they're Going to

501
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:43,300
happen. 
When I get shredded in Jackson, 

502
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:44,700
they're thinking, they're going 
to have all the women. 

503
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:46,700
But what reality what actually 
happens is. 

504
00:26:46,708 --> 00:26:48,500
You got all the guys hitting on 
you like oh man. 

505
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,700
What, what exact supplements you
taking. 

506
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:54,900
What's your lips are you doing? 
You're exactly right, man. 

507
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:57,800
Let me tell you and hey, while 
you know, why would on the 

508
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,100
subject? 
Let's be really honest. 

509
00:27:00,100 --> 00:27:04,400
I don't know about you but for 
me, you know, I deal with some 

510
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,300
body dysmorphia issues and I 
have since I was a little kid. 

511
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:13,600
So for me, if I can't even When 
I, when people will tell me, I 

512
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,900
have obtained, a certain look 
like when you were helping me 

513
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:20,800
and get on that stage, you know,
I know to others. 

514
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:25,800
That's the, the best and most 
unbelievably unbelievabl that 

515
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,900
they have ever physically, seen 
me. 

516
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,300
But I'll tell you, every time I 
would look at myself, even 

517
00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:34,500
before going on stage, when 
you're standing from the mirror 

518
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:37,600
and make sure you practice in 
your poses and all that stuff in

519
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,800
my mind, I don't know how it 
works for you. 

520
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:47,100
But for me, I Still literally 
see pounds of like what I 

521
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:50,300
thought was flab hanging off of 
my body. 

522
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,200
I it's been. 
I know it was in my mind. 

523
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,900
I know it wasn't wasn't what 
wasn't actually in the mirror 

524
00:27:56,900 --> 00:28:00,200
but Robert in my eyes I could 
physically see it. 

525
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,200
It was craziest thing and I do. 
I have struggled with that all 

526
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,000
my life. 
I don't know if you have any 

527
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,200
similar experiences with body 
dysmorphia or not, but it when 

528
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,600
you look in the mirror what you 
see in your Rain is real even 

529
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,000
though it's not real 100% man. 
I feel like you know to some 

530
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,200
extent anybody that competes in 
a sport like bodybuilding or 

531
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:25,600
figure or Physique in which you 
are judged on a subjective. 

532
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,800
Measure by a panel of Judges who
may be looking for something one

533
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,200
day and something else the next 
day. 

534
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:36,200
Like when you're in that sport, 
there's going to be some degree 

535
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,700
of body dysmorphia that 
accompanies. 

536
00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:43,900
It simply because you're trying 
to Visualize what the perfect 

537
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:47,800
potential of your body is 
capable of and if you are an 

538
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,300
athlete in the sport, you're 
likely going to be your own 

539
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,800
worst critic because you want to
bring a level of perfection that

540
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,000
you feel capable of and that's 
just going to come with some 

541
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,900
degree of body dysmorphia meant 
now, whether it's a healthy 

542
00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:03,300
degree or an unhealthy degree is
going to be dependent upon the 

543
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:04,900
individual and you know, right? 
Right. 

544
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:06,800
Right in there. 
But I feel like anybody that can

545
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,400
beat some sport is going to have
some degree of that, no matter 

546
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:10,700
what? 
Yeah. 

547
00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:12,700
Yeah. 
Always considered thought the 

548
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:14,500
same. 
I've always figured hey, these. 

549
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,300
I'm, you know, this can't be 
just to me. 

550
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,700
I'm pretty sure these guys, when
you hear them talk about, you 

551
00:29:20,708 --> 00:29:23,000
know, they need to spend it. 
I'm talking professionals, you 

552
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,900
know, Olympia stage, they'll be 
second or third, even the 

553
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:29,600
Olympian himself, he'll get 
obviously. 

554
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,900
Yeah, next year, I need to work 
on this and this, and this and 

555
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:37,500
I'm thinking old that is 
incredible that how they 

556
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:41,300
physically look, and he's 
complaining about these things. 

557
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,500
That I have no idea how he makes
it better but so it's not just 

558
00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:47,600
me. 
Even at that level they have 

559
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,900
that same thought process and I 
guess that's what drives us to 

560
00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:55,600
want to stay in the gym to want 
to do those crazy crazy 

561
00:29:56,300 --> 00:29:59,800
excessive cardio runs and you 
know the extreme endurance 

562
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:03,000
events and I guess that's what 
drives us to do that. 

563
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,300
But in all of that, I have 
enjoyment sweating and suffering

564
00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:09,300
a little. 
I just like that, you know what 

565
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:11,400
about you totally, man? 
I mean, you got to have A 

566
00:30:11,408 --> 00:30:13,900
healthy relationship with them 
and you've got to be realistic. 

567
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:15,800
You have to have enough 
self-awareness to know what 

568
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,100
you're standing and you want to 
make it a healthy Sport and 

569
00:30:19,100 --> 00:30:20,200
lifestyle through. 
And through me, there are 

570
00:30:20,208 --> 00:30:23,600
definitely competitors at take 
it to an unhealthy level, and do

571
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,700
absolutely try and chronically 
restrict and diet for far too 

572
00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,000
long because they're just, you 
know, fixated on that shredded 

573
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,900
look and that's obviously, not 
healthy long-term and there's 

574
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,600
people in the complete opposite 
and the spectrum that are 

575
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,600
morbidly obese and you feel that
that is healthy and acceptable 

576
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,100
and totally sustainable. 
Nimble and totally fine and 

577
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:44,700
they're not doing themselves any
favors either. 

578
00:30:44,700 --> 00:30:47,500
So, I mean, you kind of have a 
healthy relationship with it and

579
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:49,900
there are extremes on both ends 
of the spectrum. 

580
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,500
So really have enough stuff, 
awareness to know where you lie 

581
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,400
on that spectrum is key. 
Yep, absolutely. 

582
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,900
So, you know, hopefully, we'll 
all get it straight and keep our

583
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,100
minds clear and just focus on 
the gold, you know, have fun 

584
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,400
that should be your goal every 
day, whether it's in Fitness or 

585
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,000
work, you know, working around 
the house, whatever it is in, 

586
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,800
just enjoy the moment because, 
you know, we never Ever know 

587
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,800
when are moment or numbers 
called up, so you better enjoy 

588
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,300
the moment every day? 
Yeah, 100% man. 

589
00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:22,200
Well, you emailed me a few weeks
back and you wanted to chat 

590
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:26,400
about your experience with long 
covid and that piqued my 

591
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,300
interest. 
Because I do, honestly, don't 

592
00:31:28,300 --> 00:31:30,400
know too many people that have 
dealt with long covid. 

593
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,600
I've been fortunate enough to 
not even have gotten covid 

594
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,600
throughout this entire pandemic,
which I find kind of 

595
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,600
interesting. 
I'm not really sure why, because

596
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,000
I would possibly, would have 
been this point, but I Victoria 

597
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,200
fuel on the podcast a few months
back and she is like one of the 

598
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,600
brains behind metabolic Health 
Summit. 

599
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,300
She's an amazing individual. 
She's been struggling with long 

600
00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,500
covid. 
She has gone through all kinds 

601
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:56,800
of the rigging muru with like 
testing and just, you know, 

602
00:31:56,808 --> 00:32:00,100
analysis to figure out what the 
issue is, how to fix it. 

603
00:32:00,100 --> 00:32:04,300
So, it seems to be incredibly 
individualized. 

604
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:06,300
Some people get it and doesn't 
FaZe them. 

605
00:32:06,300 --> 00:32:07,500
Some people get it, they don't 
even know. 

606
00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,800
They have it, some people get 
it, and they suffer with long 

607
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,300
covid. 
And for people, Like Victoria 

608
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:15,200
and yourself who are living a 
healthy lifestyle doing 

609
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000
everything, quote, unquote, 
right? 

610
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,400
It's kind of piqued my interest 
as to why your body is 

611
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,300
responding the way it is. 
So yeah, kind of break that down

612
00:32:22,300 --> 00:32:28,000
for me, man. 
Yeah, you know, I'm not one to 

613
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:34,300
really get sick and I hadn't 
been sick in two or three years.

614
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:37,700
So you know I didn't worry about
any of the code that stuff. 

615
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,800
Yes, I knew it was real. 
Yes, I knew it was out there. 

616
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,200
Care. 
You know, to me it's just like 

617
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,200
it was, you know, like an 
allergy or flu, if you get it, 

618
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,700
you get it. 
If you don't you don't didn't 

619
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:50,200
know anything more than that. 
Other than all the craziness 

620
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,800
that was taking place around 
world and I thought, you know, 

621
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,600
this is ridiculous but it is 
what it is. 

622
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,500
So I never stopped working the 
job. 

623
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,000
I had at the time was still 
considered a central. 

624
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,200
So we went to work every day. 
Nothing changed for me. 

625
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Living my life. 
Getting it done. 

626
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:11,000
Never had a problem. 
My wife had gotten covid. 

627
00:33:11,300 --> 00:33:15,800
Earlier on and the only reason 
we knew that is because she lost

628
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,700
her taste and smell and back and
that was right before it was 

629
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:23,900
publicly known literally less 
than 30 days, I think before it 

630
00:33:23,908 --> 00:33:28,900
was publicly known about covid. 
So we know that she had it. 

631
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,800
I never got people around us 
have gotten sick, I never got 

632
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,800
nothing. 
So, you know, I'm just going 

633
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,700
about my daily routine working 
every day, working out every 

634
00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:40,900
day, just getting it done. 
And to the point where I told my

635
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:44,200
son, Train with everyday, my 
middle son Thunder. 

636
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:49,600
I told him, I was like, hey, 
Seth rho C is advertising his, 

637
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,000
his body challenge. 
I was like, I saw it last year 

638
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,700
and I almost entered and I was 
like, but I was too busy. 

639
00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,400
I knew I really couldn't commit.
I was like, but guess what? 

640
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,100
This is the time when I'm 
thinking about going ahead and 

641
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:05,800
clean it up, leaning out and go 
on ahead and get ready for the 

642
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:07,200
shows will be coming up this 
summer. 

643
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,699
So I'm going to use that as a 
stepping stone into another body

644
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:12,800
building. 
Addition and he was like, all my

645
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,300
sounds great. 
So, on the Sunday night before. 

646
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:23,100
So I got sick on the 18th, the 
Sunday night before that I did 

647
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:27,900
all my pictures. 
All my, all the information for 

648
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:31,300
his stuff, took pictures of me 
in my underwear, showing all the

649
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,500
my before. 
So they can track over the eight

650
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:36,500
weeks for your Afters. 
And and when I looked at his 

651
00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:39,300
last year stuff, I said to 
myself, I'm told my son, I was 

652
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:43,000
like, you know what? 
Based on what I see. 

653
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,600
I'm pretty sure I can do pretty 
good in this because I can get 

654
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,500
lean is crap. 
So let's give this a go and be 

655
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:50,800
pretty fun just to do that. 
Anyway, and I said, then I'll go

656
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,300
ahead and finish up and start 
competing the summer. 

657
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:57,100
I'd like to do at least one more
show, so that was on Sunday, sit

658
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:01,000
on my paper works. 
And then all my my pictures went

659
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,100
to work on Monday. 
Everything is perfectly fine. 

660
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:05,500
Hit the gym. 
Perfectly fire came to work on 

661
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,500
Tuesday, within an hour of being
at work. 

662
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:10,600
All of a sudden I started having
some drinks. 

663
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,900
Image in the back of my throat. 
No big deal about an hour after 

664
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:19,400
that, that drainage turned into,
it felt like about 200 degree 

665
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,000
are coming out of my nose, and I
knew something was wrong. 

666
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:27,100
I just knew I'm like, all right,
let me be smart about this. 

667
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:29,800
So I happened to be back by 
office. 

668
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:33,000
I called over to our office and 
told him, hey, not feeling. 

669
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,900
Well, I think I may be coming 
down too cold. 

670
00:35:35,900 --> 00:35:39,000
Just want to let y'all know. 
I'm just gonna go ahead and go 

671
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,300
home and I'll come back 
tomorrow. 

672
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:45,400
And they immediately said, nope,
do not come back tomorrow from 

673
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,100
you. 
Got to take at least seven days 

674
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:49,900
off to see how you're doing, and
then we'll go from there. 

675
00:35:49,900 --> 00:35:52,100
So do not come back. 
So, that's what I did. 

676
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:59,200
I came home by 10:00 that night,
I was in bed with 102 plus 

677
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:03,200
degree temperature and that's 
where I stayed for ten to twelve

678
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,400
days. 
Temperature wouldn't break the 

679
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:12,200
temperature would not break for 
longer than Maybe an hour and a 

680
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,200
half or two, and then it would 
hit again with a Vengeance and 

681
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,600
this went on for ten days. 
Minimum. 

682
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:23,200
I think a couple days after 
that, it's been a while now and 

683
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:30,400
it was so bad that when I would 
wake up in literally felt like 

684
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,600
my eyes were going to melt in 
their sockets. 

685
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:38,700
So unbeknownst to me, my wife 
was really concerned because 

686
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,500
once again I have been sick in 
years. 

687
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:45,200
I don't lay. 
Well, I was bedridden didn't do 

688
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,100
anything. 
I couldn't do anything. 

689
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,400
She was starting to worry 
because she said, she could tell

690
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,200
that my breathing wasn't right. 
Well, I wasn't aware of that 

691
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:54,700
because I was going to church 
literally. 

692
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:59,300
So she had gotten one of those 
Parks Summoners whatever they 

693
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:00,700
call them. 
You know, for like you go to the

694
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:02,100
doctor's office, they put it on 
your finger. 

695
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:05,600
So you can see how much oxygen 
you have and unbeknownst to me. 

696
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,100
My oxygen was getting low and 
she was communicating back and 

697
00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:12,300
forth with her doctor. 
Was freaking incredible. 

698
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,100
And so she he was telling her 
what to watch for what to do for

699
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:19,500
me, and I'm just fluid. 
And any time I wake up, they're 

700
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:21,700
dumping fluids in me and dumping
supplements. 

701
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:23,700
Every supplement known to man to
help. 

702
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,900
I talked to three different 
doctors at three different times

703
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:34,900
during this journey and they put
me on Tamiflu they put me on 

704
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:40,500
different antibiotics, Alan day,
I think, three or four. 

705
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:46,700
For I felt so bad that I 
thought, you know, my brains not

706
00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,600
going to be able to handle this 
much longer. 

707
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,200
I remember thinking that it's 
just too hot. 

708
00:37:51,700 --> 00:37:55,800
And so, the doctor, I talked to 
him that day I requested I was 

709
00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:01,100
like, listen, I want the 
monoclonal antibodies because I 

710
00:38:01,100 --> 00:38:03,900
know, for fact, from watching 
this stuff beforehand and 

711
00:38:03,908 --> 00:38:09,100
monoclonal antibodies were 
helping people Robert mammal. 

712
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:11,200
Heart fill the, the doctor told 
me. 

713
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,800
She said, I'm sorry, mr. 
Hogg, you're not going to 

714
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,200
qualify. 
I'm like, how am I not gonna 

715
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,000
qualify? 
I'm freaking dying. 

716
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,800
Here's what I feel like and she 
said, because you don't meet the

717
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,300
requirements. 
You are physically too healthy. 

718
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,800
Well, I'm like crazy. 
What? 

719
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,600
Physically too healthy and the 
reason being they said that 

720
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,900
point. 
What's that? 

721
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:35,800
And you've been bedridden for 
days at that point. 

722
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,500
I've been bedridden for days. 
Yeah, that was day three or four

723
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:44,300
and she said I was physically to
healthy and this is why I'm not 

724
00:38:44,300 --> 00:38:47,000
obese. 
I didn't have diabetes. 

725
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,900
I didn't have any underlying 
health concerns where they 

726
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:53,100
thought was going to put me in 
intensive care in the hospital. 

727
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,100
Those three things negated me 
from getting if I would have 

728
00:38:57,100 --> 00:39:03,300
been severely obese, if I'd have
been a heavy smoker, but I've 

729
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:07,000
been an alcoholic. 
If I had diabetes for My Own 

730
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,600
Self Indulgence is of food. 
I would have qualified. 

731
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,900
And let me tell you, man, it 
pissed me off. 

732
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:15,300
I'm bad. 
I'm like, hold up. 

733
00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:20,400
I have spent my life trying to 
be healthy for me, my wife and 

734
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,300
my kids and my community just so
you can always do and go and 

735
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:28,800
help and for me to be told that 
I don't qualify. 

736
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,000
Just set me off but there's 
nothing I can do. 

737
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,800
So crawl back in bed and that's 
where I stayed. 

738
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,900
And then finally somewhere in 
that ten, eleven twelve, day 

739
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:46,500
range, finally broke fever came 
down, stay down in the midst of 

740
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,100
all of that. 
I got a little worse to the 

741
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:53,800
point to where my actual 
physician made a house call that

742
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,800
doesn't happen in this day and 
age. 

743
00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:02,400
He came to my home and check me.
So it all worked out all of that

744
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,000
you know getting better but it 
was still it was a Couple of 

745
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,200
weeks after the fever broke. 
Before I finally started 

746
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,200
thinking I was going to be 
normal. 

747
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:21,100
And then that is when this long 
covid stuff started hitting And 

748
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:25,700
it has not stopped, and that's 
been since January the 18th, 

749
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:29,700
I've been suffering with it 
through to this very minute and 

750
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:33,600
what is the crazy? 
What are some of the symptoms of

751
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,500
that? 
Because I feel like long. 

752
00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:37,500
I don't even know how you would 
Define long code because it 

753
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,700
seems to be a myriad of symptoms
depending on who you are. 

754
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,200
Yeah, okay. 
So long covid, basically is 

755
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:50,300
defined as anyone after having 
covid and the fever breaks. 

756
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:54,100
Is now long no longer in their 
system, but they're still 

757
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:57,900
suffering from side effects of 
coded. 

758
00:40:57,900 --> 00:41:01,700
And if it lasts more than a 
month, they are calling it long 

759
00:41:01,700 --> 00:41:04,500
covid. 
There's reports now people that 

760
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,600
have been suffering with it 
since it first onset. 

761
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,700
So they're people that are have 
long covid. 

762
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:15,000
Now for two years, So, for me, 
this is when I realized 

763
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:21,100
something was wrong, I woke up 
standing in our walk-in Pantry 

764
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:26,900
looking at the shelves. 
And when I woke up, it's 

765
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:30,300
literally like I woke up and I'm
looking and I'm looking around 

766
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,700
like, where the heck am? 
I then I realize I'm in the 

767
00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:35,900
pantry. 
I'm like, why am I in the 

768
00:41:35,908 --> 00:41:37,700
pantry? 
Because I'm thinking, okay, 

769
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:41,800
maybe I'm supposed to be getting
something and then I realize I 

770
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,800
don't remember anything. 
So I walk out, I go get back in 

771
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,200
bed. 
From there, I started having 

772
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,700
these early. 
These are the symptoms that I'm 

773
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:53,600
personally affected with 
confusion. 

774
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,500
I was finding that, I'd be in 
the middle of doing something 

775
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,800
and could not figure out how to 
do the simplest tasks while I'm 

776
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,600
doing something so confusion 
memory loss. 

777
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:10,100
All the time. 
Dizziness like literally on the 

778
00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,300
edge of vertigo, you know, when 
you get vertigo or if you drink 

779
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:17,700
too much and you get the spins. 
So it's like the spins are just 

780
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:20,600
getting ready to kick off but it
doesn't kick off. 

781
00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:24,000
That's the worst. 
So I get that Odo. 

782
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Horrible absolutely horrible 
elevated would call tachycardia 

783
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,100
or something like that. 
Your heart just takes off for no

784
00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:38,000
reason. 
And it's like beating 150 beats 

785
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,500
a minute for nothing, like 
you're just sitting there. 

786
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:44,100
Like I just try to run, you 
know, a three minute mile. 

787
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:49,200
Out of nowhere, breathlessness 
has been one of the biggest 

788
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,400
things, the breathlessness even 
carrying on a conversation, I 

789
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,700
will start to almost 
hyperventilate. 

790
00:42:55,700 --> 00:42:57,300
I have I've learned how to 
control that. 

791
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,100
Now even while we're doing all 
this talking now I am 

792
00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,500
subconsciously thinking of my 
breaths, my breath rate 

793
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:11,400
uncontrollable tiredness, I call
it baby narcolepsy never would 

794
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,600
have dreamed in all of my years,
I'm not a napper. 

795
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,100
I'm not somebody takes a nap. 
Not somebody sleeps during the 

796
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:18,400
day because if the Sun is up, I 
got stuff, I'm doing. 

797
00:43:18,500 --> 00:43:20,900
That's just me, that's my 
attitude. 

798
00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,600
In the living room, with my 
wife. 

799
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,300
We're talking. 
I tell her. 

800
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,100
I was like, man. 
I just for some reason. 

801
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:30,300
I just feel so tired. 
That's all I remember saying. 

802
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:34,200
She told me, I literally passed 
out. 

803
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,500
And was like that for about 45 
minutes, and I woke up and like,

804
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,400
what just happened. 
She's like, yeah, you passed 

805
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,600
out. 
Like, I've been drunk of fit. 

806
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,500
The liquor and passed out one of
those just uncontrolled. 

807
00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,000
There's nothing I can do about 
it. 

808
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:55,000
So the like baby narcolepsy 
episodes, they have been cold, 

809
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,000
current ohms, sleep daily. 
Now, and there's nothing I can 

810
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,400
do about it when it hits. 
And when I say nothing, there's 

811
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,100
nothing. 
I just go ahead. 

812
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,900
And get myself halfway 
comfortable and even though I 

813
00:44:07,908 --> 00:44:11,600
try to fight it, it's anywhere 
from 15 minutes to two and a 

814
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,400
half hours and there's nothing I
can do. 

815
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:18,300
So with that, then at night 
time, for some reason, I have 

816
00:44:18,300 --> 00:44:22,400
insomnia can't sleep at night, 
time won't allow me to sleep. 

817
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:27,200
It's the craziest thing I've 
ever experienced, Robert. 

818
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,200
And let me tell you in all of 
that, I've told quite a few 

819
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,200
people I had to had to eat a lot
of pro. 

820
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Because I'm the type, that is 
always what I see with my eyes. 

821
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:45,300
If somebody I told my doctor, if
somebody that look like me with 

822
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:49,500
my lifestyle, My overall health 
exercise lifestyle and 

823
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:53,700
mentality, if they would have 
come up to me and told me that 

824
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:57,900
they aren't working because of 
this this this this this and 

825
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:03,000
this I would have called BS. 
It's like there's no freaking 

826
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,200
way. 
That's just you just Want to 

827
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,000
work. 
That's exactly what I would have

828
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,200
said to them. 
I'm just being honest, I would 

829
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,800
have said that to them, get out 
of my face because you just 

830
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,000
don't want to work. 
You just want to be a logo on 

831
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,900
society. 
Well, let me tell you, I've had 

832
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:20,300
to eat crow. 
Because there is absolutely 

833
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:26,200
nothing I can do for what I'm 
experiencing and I described it 

834
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,900
the best way I could to another 
professional. 

835
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:32,600
I've talked to so many doctors 
during this timeframe and I said

836
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,800
the best way I can describe this
to you, you take a trench coat 

837
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:42,000
and you make it out of cement 
and you put my arms in it and it

838
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,300
hangs down to my ankles and you 
zip it up. 

839
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:49,400
That's what I feel like I am 
encased in a trench coat of 

840
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,300
cement and there's nothing I can
do. 

841
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:55,600
It's like every step is a 
struggle, every breath is a 

842
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,300
struggle. 
Every thought is a struggle, 

843
00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:03,300
there's no energy, even though 
your hearts racing, 150 miles an

844
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:06,900
hour, you still don't have 
energy to do anything. 

845
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,400
And so there's so many different
things that have come and gone 

846
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,700
from this my blood pressure. 
Now, one minute Sky High. 

847
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000
One minute is normal. 
One minute is below normal by a 

848
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,400
lot. 
Next minute its sky high. 

849
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:27,100
This is a non never-ending 
battle that's taken place. 

850
00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:31,000
So do you so like you feel like 
I'm like a million bucks that, 

851
00:46:31,100 --> 00:46:33,000
you know, random times. 
But the Dare, do you feel like 

852
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:34,600
you're in this trench coat at 
all times? 

853
00:46:35,500 --> 00:46:42,100
I have never felt better. 
Then about on my good days. 

854
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,500
Robert, I am 75% of what I used 
to be. 

855
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:51,400
That's a good day. 
So I might have two good days in

856
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:57,900
a row at 75%. 
So on those two days, my butt 

857
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:03,400
gets up gets out and tries to 
help and be the husband. 

858
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:08,700
I'm supposed to be, Around here,
do everything that I can do 

859
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:12,900
because I never know when the 
it's like a light switch was cut

860
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:17,000
on, and I'm going to go 100 
miles an hour because I know at 

861
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,600
some point unexpectedly, the 
light switches go get cut off 

862
00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:25,500
and when it cuts off, I'm done. 
And so my pattern would I have 

863
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:30,800
been tracking since January is. 
I might have one day to where I 

864
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:37,800
feel, okay, for about six hours,
you know, Are okay for two days.

865
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:42,500
But remember, my okay is only 
about 75% of what I used to be 

866
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,800
and so I'll do everything that I
can do. 

867
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,900
I will try to catch up, try to 
help my wife, trying to do stuff

868
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:50,700
around the farm. 
You know, all of these things 

869
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:54,500
that I have to do. 
I try to do and then all of a 

870
00:47:54,500 --> 00:47:57,600
sudden, it's like somebody 
reaches over while they're 

871
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,900
laughing and clips, this light 
switch of Life off. 

872
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:05,800
And I am now bound to the couch 
or the bed because because I 

873
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,600
just can't, I can't do it. 
I can barely open my eyes. 

874
00:48:09,700 --> 00:48:13,500
I can barely breathe, but when I
say that I'm not struggling to 

875
00:48:13,500 --> 00:48:17,100
breathe, I have plenty of air 
but it's like, it takes 

876
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,600
everything in me to to say 
though, your lungs. 

877
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,600
Let him go fill your. 
That's how tired that's the 

878
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:30,400
amount of overwhelming. 
Tiredness, that consumes me so 

879
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,000
much. 
So that not only with that 

880
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:39,600
overwhelming tiredness. 
The Fusion and the, the not 

881
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,400
being able to concentrate 
Robert, I can't drive. 

882
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:47,600
I still can't drive a car. 
I've tried to drive and the 

883
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:49,700
first time I realized something 
was wrong. 

884
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,300
Was, you know, like about three 
weeks after I had gotten sick 

885
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:54,000
and I hadn't been out the house,
really? 

886
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,200
And they, my boys are like, hey,
come on, let's write it right up

887
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,600
to the store with us. 
I'm like, great. 

888
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,000
So I jumped in the vehicle with 
them. 

889
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:04,900
I didn't make it 300 feet and I 
had to tell them to stop because

890
00:49:04,900 --> 00:49:09,500
I knew knew something was wrong.
It's like mad chaos in my brain.

891
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:15,400
I could not handle the incoming 
information. 

892
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,600
From everything that my eyes 
were seeing. 

893
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,600
It's like it was overwhelming a 
computer if that makes sense. 

894
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,500
That's what was happening. 
So I started trying to just 

895
00:49:26,500 --> 00:49:29,600
drive myself from here to my 
mailbox and back, you know, we 

896
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,700
live out in the woods. 
I've got a lot of property so 

897
00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:33,700
it's a half a mile to my mailbox
and back prop. 

898
00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:36,100
So I drive down there and back. 
Down there and back. 

899
00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:39,800
And so I was trying to build up,
I was looking at this therapy 

900
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,400
getting my mind used to doing 
things the for - I can drive is 

901
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,300
about 20 minutes that's 20, 
maybe 30 minutes. 

902
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,800
But when I do that Robert, it is
a sacrifice for the next 24 to 

903
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,700
48 hours. 
Because if I drive up to the 

904
00:49:56,700 --> 00:49:59,600
grocery store, just to feel 
halfway normal and buy 

905
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:03,300
groceries, and come back, while 
my wife's at work, the next 24 

906
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:07,300
to 48 hours or so. 
I'm going to be housebound 

907
00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:11,900
because I'm not going to be able
to literally function because of

908
00:50:11,900 --> 00:50:15,800
I don't know if it's the I don't
know if it's anxiety I don't 

909
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,900
know if it's information 
overload for my brain. 

910
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,800
I told my wife when she was 
asking me what happens when 

911
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,000
you're driving I was like babe 
it's like this, we don't Robert 

912
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:28,300
you and I don't think about 
driving we get the car, we 

913
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:31,100
started with put it in gear we 
buckle up, we go down the road, 

914
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:34,800
we'll carry on conversations 
heck we text where you listen to

915
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,700
the radio? 
We talked their family with 

916
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:38,900
holler at our kids. 
You don't think about the 

917
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:42,400
driving process, it is 100% 
autonomous. 

918
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,000
It just happens in your brain. 
You don't have to think about 

919
00:50:45,300 --> 00:50:47,400
when I'm in a corner. 
Now, if I set behind the 

920
00:50:47,408 --> 00:50:50,700
driver's seat, I have to think 
about my hands are on the 

921
00:50:50,700 --> 00:50:55,200
steering wheel. 
Turn the key, put it in Drive, 

922
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:58,500
look around. 
What is this car doing? 

923
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:02,200
Watch your speed, you play as 
your foot on the accelerator. 

924
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,300
Don't forget to break all of 
this is going. 

925
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,000
On. 
It's like it's the first time I 

926
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,100
have ever set in a car every 
single time I sat in a car it's 

927
00:51:11,100 --> 00:51:15,100
like the very first time. 
And I can't explain that. 

928
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,800
So I was given all this 
information to my main doctor. 

929
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,300
The one that's been awesome and 
all of this and he told me he's 

930
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:25,800
like, Robbie the best way we can
describe what is going on with 

931
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,700
you, because we've seen some 
crazy stuff with this covid 

932
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:32,000
after effects. 
He said your brain is literally 

933
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:37,100
mimicking, like you have had a 
massive stroke without the 

934
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:41,900
physical side effects of like, 
being paralyzed and, you know, 

935
00:51:41,900 --> 00:51:43,400
the paralysis stuff that comes 
with. 

936
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,700
He said that's the best way we 
can describe what's going on in 

937
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:49,200
your brain. 
And so now, this is what the 

938
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:54,800
research has found since covid 
has hit, they have taken now and

939
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,300
they have actually dissected the
brains for the suit on the way 

940
00:51:57,300 --> 00:51:59,600
you can find out. 
It's kind of like the injuries 

941
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,600
at football players have, you 
know, they finally, they die. 

942
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,400
They dissect their brains, and 
they see all of this internal 

943
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,000
damage in the brain. 
This is what they had found was 

944
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,200
covid patients that have died. 
When they've opened the brains 

945
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,900
update of had severe ditions 
kind of like what I have. 

946
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:19,800
They have the exact same style 
of brain injury. 

947
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,400
The little black spots that are 
in their brain every well and 

948
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,400
also one of the scientists that 
I had watched he was on YouTube,

949
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,800
he's on there so he's legit with
all his credentials and people 

950
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,900
are using him for information. 
He said that they have found in 

951
00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:42,000
some extreme cases that there is
cell growth in the brain that 

952
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,800
should not be there. 
And Don't know what it is yet. 

953
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,500
So this is some of the things 
that have happened to people 

954
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:55,100
that have contracted covid and 
are having very severe symptoms.

955
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:58,800
Now I'm not going to say my 
symptoms are severe by any means

956
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,500
because there are a lot of 
people that are way worse off 

957
00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:07,200
than I am. 
I had seen video biographies of 

958
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,600
people that are posting stuff so
people know what their families 

959
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,500
are going through of people that
are bound in wheelchairs now 

960
00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,300
that their life is totally 
upside down. 

961
00:53:15,500 --> 00:53:19,900
So, you I'm not going to say 
that mine is bad but just mine's

962
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:22,900
not good for what I'm used to if
that makes sense. 

963
00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:27,800
So what gives you, you know, 
someone who's used to freaking 

964
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,200
put into work every single day 
without excuses? 

965
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,500
Like what gives you hope now? 
Like what are you excited about?

966
00:53:32,500 --> 00:53:33,600
What do you, what are you 
leaning on? 

967
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:37,200
What are you looking forward to?
Like what what gives you hope 

968
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:41,100
and positivity for tomorrow? 
Jesus, I'm gonna be really 

969
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:42,800
honest with you. 
That's what does it? 

970
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,900
I wake up every day and when I 
open my eyes, generally, the 

971
00:53:46,900 --> 00:53:50,300
first thing that I will say out 
loud, or thinking in my brain, 

972
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,000
just thank you, Lord, for 
another day and maybe taste 

973
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,200
today is the day that I'm going 
to be totally normal. 

974
00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:59,500
And if not, it's okay, we will 
get through this together. 

975
00:54:00,300 --> 00:54:04,900
That's just me. 
Are you doing anything like 

976
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,900
medically or physically or any 
type of like what was the 

977
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,200
treatment protocol? 
You get working right now, okay?

978
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,200
So told you a story about the 
antibodies, Not only was I 

979
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,600
refused, it had gotten so bad. 
I told my wife, I'm like, look, 

980
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,700
I'm done. 
I'm going to travel to Florida 

981
00:54:22,900 --> 00:54:25,500
or Texas because you can 
literally walk in the door and 

982
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:29,200
those States because they're, 
you know, good states with good 

983
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,600
values for people. 
And you can pretty much Open the

984
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,500
door and get those. 
So, I went ahead and did some 

985
00:54:35,500 --> 00:54:37,100
research, and I'm like, all 
right, I'm gonna go get these 

986
00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:41,500
antibodies, I'll start Florida, 
went on the website, the State 

987
00:54:41,500 --> 00:54:45,000
website, get some information 
figure out what I need to do, 

988
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:48,300
where I needed to go a little 
behold, there was a thing on the

989
00:54:48,300 --> 00:54:50,500
website from the state of 
Florida from the governor 

990
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,600
himself literally wrote us. 
This little paragraph 

991
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:57,500
apologizing, for people that 
wanted to come to their state, 

992
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:01,500
to help with their health and 
you know, deliver better 

993
00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:02,900
lifestyles. 
Blah, blah blah. 

994
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:07,800
He apologized that the 
monoclonal antibodies, the way 

995
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:12,800
it was set up in their state had
been shut down by the US 

996
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:16,700
government and they were no 
longer allowed to give out 

997
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:20,600
monoclonal antibodies. 
So their entire Center was shut 

998
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,800
down. 
So I couldn't go to Florida 

999
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,400
found out, I couldn't go to 
Texas and I had a friend that 

1000
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,800
lived in Texas, and then he 
confirmed for me, they had shut 

1001
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,700
it down in Texas to because him 
and his family had got sick 

1002
00:55:31,700 --> 00:55:36,300
right after I did and she's me 
right before I did and his 

1003
00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:38,500
entire family, just walk in off 
the street, they got the 

1004
00:55:38,508 --> 00:55:42,300
monoclonal antibodies, and he 
was back to work within three 

1005
00:55:42,300 --> 00:55:45,500
days and none of them had any 
long-term side effects. 

1006
00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:51,500
So with that being said, I have 
since then signed up for and I 

1007
00:55:51,508 --> 00:55:55,300
had been accepted in a 
monoclonal antibody study down 

1008
00:55:55,300 --> 00:55:59,900
here, local hospital in my area.
And so I had to pass all the 

1009
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,100
pre-screening in and get 
accepted into the study. 

1010
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:05,500
D and that starts in July. 
So I'll be going down in July, 

1011
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:07,700
receive a monoclonal antibody 
treatments because they are 

1012
00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:11,100
finding that people are having 
good results with long-term 

1013
00:56:11,100 --> 00:56:13,000
covid with that. 
So we're going to give that a 

1014
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,600
try. 
Also, I had just started, but I 

1015
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,300
had to stop because of an inner 
ear issue. 

1016
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:25,300
I went down last week to the 
Hampton Roads hyperbaric 

1017
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:29,600
treatment center. 
Hyperbaric chamber has been used

1018
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,800
right now for long code, Long 
Haul, To help with their 

1019
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:38,100
symptoms and what they have 
found is that Under Pressure? 

1020
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:43,400
You below sea level with 100% 
oxygen, for at least an hour. 

1021
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:48,900
They are finding that they are 
able to Super saturate at a 

1022
00:56:48,908 --> 00:56:53,200
cellular level. 
The mitochondria in your body, 

1023
00:56:53,300 --> 00:56:58,200
which is helping to alter the 
side effects and correct, some 

1024
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:01,000
of the side effects that people 
experience in LeBlanc covid. 

1025
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,900
So, you know, They did tell me 
the doctor down, there said 

1026
00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:05,400
look, we're seeing great 
results. 

1027
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:08,000
She said, I'm not going to 
promise you anything, but I just

1028
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,500
need you to know. 
People are having good results. 

1029
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,700
You might be that one, that it 
doesn't work for, but you should

1030
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:19,500
definitely give it a chance. 
So, I did, I actually went down 

1031
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:23,700
there last week, you've got to 
do a minimum of five in a row, 

1032
00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:26,900
it takes five in a row. 
That means once a day for five 

1033
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:31,000
days to get that super 
saturation of oxygen into your 

1034
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:33,400
cells. 
It takes Five days in a row to 

1035
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:37,300
accomplish that and then you 
continue on from there as you 

1036
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:39,000
get more into the benefits of 
it. 

1037
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:43,500
So I went down and signed up for
10 days which means which meant 

1038
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,400
lead in my family. 
Leaving my wife, moving into a 

1039
00:57:46,408 --> 00:57:49,800
hotel and walking back and forth
to the treatment center every 

1040
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:51,300
day. 
Because remember, this treatment

1041
00:57:51,300 --> 00:57:53,600
center is over an hour from my 
home. 

1042
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,800
So it's nothing that I can drive
and it's a two-hour process when

1043
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:59,100
you're there. 
And I can't ask somebody to give

1044
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:02,100
six hours of their day for 10 
days in a row. 

1045
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,800
For me, I just can't do that. 
So I went ahead and went down 

1046
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,900
got a hotel. 
I was a 1.2 miles from there and

1047
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:11,600
I just figured I'd walk doctor 
treatment and I walked back to 

1048
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,000
the hotel and I did those 
treatments and after the first 

1049
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:20,000
day of treatment whether it's a 
placebo effect or not, I don't 

1050
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,500
care Robert, I'll take the sibo 
every day of the week after my 

1051
00:58:23,500 --> 00:58:27,900
first day of treatment, the very
next day I walk three and a half

1052
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,500
miles. 
I went down into the gym at the 

1053
00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:32,600
hotel and for the first time 
Life. 

1054
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,000
I woke up and said, I want to 
lift some weights for the first 

1055
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,500
time since I've been sick. 
I said that I haven't said that 

1056
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:42,800
since I've since I was sick, I 
went down to the gym there, and 

1057
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,600
I did a little small work out 
towards the end of the workout. 

1058
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,900
I felt myself getting used to a 
little bit dizzy and I'm smart 

1059
00:58:49,900 --> 00:58:53,000
enough at this age to listen, 
most of the time, sometimes, I 

1060
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:54,900
don't, but I did listen to my 
body. 

1061
00:58:54,900 --> 00:58:56,900
I'm like, okay, I'm going to 
stop right now. 

1062
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,400
I don't need to overdo it 
because I have not touched a 

1063
00:58:59,408 --> 00:59:02,000
weight. 
Actually really don't work out. 

1064
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:07,500
Out at all, since January 18th. 
So I stopped when a breakfast 

1065
00:59:07,500 --> 00:59:10,900
went up to the hotel and rested 
for an hour before I had to go 

1066
00:59:10,900 --> 00:59:13,700
to my treatment. 
I had already walked one mile 

1067
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:16,800
that morning on my own, because 
I just felt so good before I 

1068
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,700
worked out. 
And then I walked through the 

1069
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:23,000
facility, 1.2 miles, then I 
walked back, 1.2 miles, I did 

1070
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:27,300
have three and a half miles on 
the second day after one day of 

1071
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:30,800
treatment. 
And lifted weights, I never got 

1072
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,200
sleepy. 
I've never Passed out. 

1073
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:38,400
I never got confused. 
I never had on a cement blanket 

1074
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,400
while I was there after the 
initial treatment. 

1075
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,300
So Robert. 
I don't know if it's going to be

1076
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:50,500
a fix-all cure-all, but I know 
that after one day, I felt like 

1077
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,100
a new man. 
Yeah. 

1078
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:55,300
After my second day of treatment
after my second day of 

1079
00:59:55,300 --> 00:59:58,300
treatment, I had problems with 
my inner ear, on my right ear, 

1080
00:59:58,300 --> 01:00:02,400
because, remember, you're going 
to depth and you have to Relieve

1081
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,600
that pressure coming out of 
being under pressure under sea 

1082
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,300
level and your ears have to 
clear when I was younger. 

1083
01:00:10,300 --> 01:00:13,300
I used to dive and it used to 
take me a while to get the 

1084
01:00:13,300 --> 01:00:16,700
depths and you should take me 
longer than normal to get out of

1085
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:19,000
that because of my ear took 
forever to clear. 

1086
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,300
Even today if I fly my right ear
gives me problems when we're 

1087
01:00:24,300 --> 01:00:27,600
coming back down. 
And so I've always had an issue 

1088
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,300
with it. 
Well my right ear decided not to

1089
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:35,600
cooperate with two days in. 
Row at depth totally locked up. 

1090
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:40,300
Would not clear and had a small 
rupture so they stopped my 

1091
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:42,700
treatments. 
Told me that I had to be seen by

1092
01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:47,300
ENT immediately. 
They saw me yesterday as an 

1093
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:52,900
emergency and he verified that 
yes, I blood inside my ear canal

1094
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:55,500
everywhere. 
They had to go in and clean that

1095
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:58,800
out. 
They had to cut my ear set of 

1096
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,700
tube in place and now I'm 
healing from that. 

1097
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:06,900
So I'm just waiting for this ear
to get back to normal and the 

1098
01:01:06,900 --> 01:01:09,200
doctor told me that I can, as 
soon as I feel better, I can 

1099
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:12,300
immediately go back and finish 
my treatments, because once he 

1100
01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,600
found out what I was doing, he's
like, oh, absolutely sun, go 

1101
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:16,600
down there and get this done. 
He said, I want you to feel 

1102
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:21,500
better, so that's where I'm at. 
Right now, the only other things

1103
01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:25,300
I have done on my own is, I've 
tried walking, like I said, I've

1104
01:01:25,300 --> 01:01:27,700
got a half a mile driveway, one 
way. 

1105
01:01:28,100 --> 01:01:34,400
I've tried to walking And I got 
to tell you, it's a half a mile 

1106
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,400
down and a half, a mile back by 
the time I get back. 

1107
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:41,500
Robert, I literally feel like I 
have like that day that you ran 

1108
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:43,500
a marathon without really 
practicing for it. 

1109
01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:48,200
That's what I feel like that. 
That's how that's how bad it is.

1110
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:52,600
I just can't. 
Even though I want to with every

1111
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,600
fiber of my being, I just can't.
It's out some beer. 

1112
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,900
It's been, and I remember when 
you were sending me pictures, 

1113
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:04,600
You with a weighted vest. 
Dragon chains from telephone 

1114
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:09,000
pole, telephone pole. 
Yeah, that that is not going to 

1115
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,400
happen right now. 
Now I will tell you that day 

1116
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,600
that I was worked out after the 
first treatment if I would have 

1117
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:17,500
been home if that facility would
be, you know, just a few miles 

1118
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:19,100
from me and I could drive back 
and forth. 

1119
01:02:19,100 --> 01:02:21,100
That's the first thing I would 
have done, I would have tried 

1120
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:24,300
that and so even though it 
hasn't been ignorant on my part 

1121
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:27,800
and so that treatment is 
basically just you going to 

1122
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,700
depth and oxygenating the cell. 
That's what that's what it is 

1123
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:31,600
in. 
Its Irony right? 

1124
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,500
Yes, Dad. 
That's a simplistic form for 

1125
01:02:34,500 --> 01:02:36,700
something that is very 
complicated. 

1126
01:02:37,300 --> 01:02:42,300
They say that it helps the 
mitochondria to heal. 

1127
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:48,200
It also they use hyperbaric 
chamber specifically for our 

1128
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,700
people that dive and get the 
band's. 

1129
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:52,500
Everybody knows about that. 
It's the exact same chamber that

1130
01:02:52,500 --> 01:02:56,100
they use, but what they 
specialize at chamber in for now

1131
01:02:56,100 --> 01:02:57,800
and that's why it's in most 
hospitals. 

1132
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:02,600
Is they use it for severe burn 
victims because Causes increased

1133
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:07,700
blood flow, it causes so growth,
it causes new skin to grow more 

1134
01:03:07,700 --> 01:03:10,900
easily and she said, they see 
blood vessels. 

1135
01:03:11,100 --> 01:03:13,700
It can it helps the cause new 
blood vessel growth. 

1136
01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:16,700
She even said it had something 
to do because I don't really 

1137
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:18,300
understand this themselves 
stuff. 

1138
01:03:18,300 --> 01:03:20,800
I know, lots of people use them 
for things and go get them. 

1139
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,300
I don't really understand that. 
It's a, you know, it's above my 

1140
01:03:23,700 --> 01:03:27,300
capacity of thinking, but she 
said, it also does something 

1141
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:30,100
with the stem cells. 
In your body. 

1142
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:35,200
So it is definitely something to
look at for varying forms of 

1143
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,500
treatment. 
Then when you go in there and 

1144
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:38,800
look at all the different things
that they can treat with it, I'm

1145
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:43,200
like what that why doesn't? 
Why wouldn't the insurance pay 

1146
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,200
for this? 
Well, they want insurance 

1147
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,400
doesn't pay for this bug. 
It's all out of pocket is 100% 

1148
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:55,100
on you as an individual and it's
not cheap, but I'm at the point 

1149
01:03:55,100 --> 01:03:58,700
in my life to where my health is
more important than the dollars.

1150
01:03:59,100 --> 01:04:02,200
And that's why I'm doing it 
anyway because I have got to get

1151
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:08,100
back to where I am a viable, 
human being in my family 

1152
01:04:08,100 --> 01:04:12,500
structure and not what what I've
been feeling like since January 

1153
01:04:12,500 --> 01:04:18,000
is just a literally, a leech 
because I haven't been able to 

1154
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:20,400
add anything even though I know 
that's not the case. 

1155
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:22,600
But for me man, I'm so 
independent. 

1156
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:25,600
I'm so used to being the man of 
the household and I'm not saying

1157
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,800
that in a mean way, that's just 
my family structure. 

1158
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:31,100
And for me not be able to do 
that. 

1159
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,500
Let me tell you something, 
Robert you know how degrading it

1160
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:38,300
is to have to call your 70 year 
old mother to drive you 

1161
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:43,100
somewhere. 
That's cool castration, that's 

1162
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:45,600
what it feels like. 
Yeah, I mean I'm just telling, 

1163
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,500
you know, man, that's how it hit
me. 

1164
01:04:47,500 --> 01:04:50,500
Mentally, just I'm like her. 
Now we're talking one day and 

1165
01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:52,900
she's like, you know, just call 
me anytime this and I was like, 

1166
01:04:52,900 --> 01:04:55,000
Mom, let me tell you something. 
I really appreciate you. 

1167
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,700
I love you. 
Thank you for everything you do.

1168
01:04:56,700 --> 01:05:00,000
But do you know how demeaning it
is for 53? 

1169
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,700
Year old man to have to call his
70-some year old mother to get a

1170
01:05:03,700 --> 01:05:08,400
ride to the store but it's just 
horrendous for me. 

1171
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,500
I'm not saying everybody else 
for Yeah. 

1172
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,100
Well, I mean, shoot, man, you 
and I talked like when we were 

1173
01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,800
working together Way Back in the
Day, 2018 like we are 

1174
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,600
conversations branched out far 
beyond just macros and then we 

1175
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,700
talked about everything and I 
feel like I've got a pretty good

1176
01:05:23,700 --> 01:05:25,800
handle on you. 
I feel like we have very similar

1177
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:29,000
values and, you know, just how 
we how we operate how we think. 

1178
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:33,100
So, I know the type of person 
that you are to know you, well 

1179
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:36,100
enough to know that this is a 
hard time for you, for sure. 

1180
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:42,500
But at the same time I can't 
think of Any, anybody better to 

1181
01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:44,100
do it, man? 
I mean, you've got the right, 

1182
01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:49,300
you've got the you've got the 
run out, you've got this Outlook

1183
01:05:49,300 --> 01:05:51,000
that. 
Hey, look, this is not gonna be 

1184
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,500
what defines you and I feel like
so many people that have hard 

1185
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:56,600
thing to them whether it's long 
covid or something else. 

1186
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,700
Entirely. 
Yeah. 

1187
01:05:57,700 --> 01:05:59,900
That becomes their defining 
factor. 

1188
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:02,600
And this is not going to be your
defining factor and I have no 

1189
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:03,800
doubt. 
There's not going to be a 

1190
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,200
defining Factor. 
Yeah, don't take this 

1191
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:09,000
conversation as a woe is me 
conversation. 

1192
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:12,800
Don't take this conversation. 
Station as I'm just whining and 

1193
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,900
crying. 
All I wanted to do in this. 

1194
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:19,100
I immediately thought about you 
and I thought, you know what, he

1195
01:06:19,100 --> 01:06:24,300
has such an audience that is 
based on health and family and 

1196
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:28,500
being the best that you can be. 
Let's get this out there. 

1197
01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:33,500
Just in case there's somebody 
that are struggling with this. 

1198
01:06:34,300 --> 01:06:37,300
The a they don't understand it 
themselves and that be they 

1199
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:41,900
still look totally normal. 
And there they think that people

1200
01:06:41,900 --> 01:06:44,300
think they're lying or they 
think they're going crazy 

1201
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:47,200
because of all the different 
things that are popping up that 

1202
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,700
they just can't explain. 
And I'm here to tell them you're

1203
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:55,000
not crazy, you're not making it 
up, it is real. 

1204
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:59,000
And if you go on be long, Cobra 
judge, research sites that are 

1205
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,000
out there and look at all the 
symptoms that they have. 

1206
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:06,200
Now, officially accepted 
improving, every symptom that I 

1207
01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,400
have told you about is listed on
there somewhere. 

1208
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:09,700
It's like one or two hundred 
thing. 

1209
01:07:10,300 --> 01:07:14,200
That they're seen. 
So they're not crazy, just 

1210
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:20,600
continue doing the best that you
can find a physician, that will 

1211
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,300
a work with you and actually 
believe you. 

1212
01:07:23,300 --> 01:07:26,000
Because there are so many 
positions right now that are 

1213
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:28,600
scared of this because they 
don't have the answers. 

1214
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:34,000
I'm just very fortunate that my 
personal physician will tell me 

1215
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,700
to my face Robbie. 
I don't have a freaking clue. 

1216
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:40,600
This is new to all of us but we 
will try to Work out something 

1217
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,800
that's all I want man give me 
the truth. 

1218
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,600
Be honest with me. 
Don't try to be as me into 

1219
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:48,500
something that you don't even 
know what you're talking about. 

1220
01:07:48,500 --> 01:07:51,700
Just be honest that you don't 
know either and we're going to 

1221
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:54,400
we're going to work together 
real. 

1222
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,900
Well, you know. 
Yeah. 

1223
01:07:55,900 --> 01:07:59,900
I think I think just complete 
transparency honesty from people

1224
01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:02,500
that are undergoing, the 
symptoms have the symptoms 

1225
01:08:02,500 --> 01:08:05,300
people that are at the medical 
professional level and helping 

1226
01:08:05,300 --> 01:08:09,200
mitigate those symptoms like 
just transparency from all all 

1227
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,400
fronts. 
Is always the right, answer my 

1228
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,300
opinion. 
Yes, absolutely man. 

1229
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,899
Well I want you to overcome all 
this. 

1230
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:22,100
I want to last time we spoke way
back in the day, we started to 

1231
01:08:22,108 --> 01:08:23,500
get like a duck hunt going on 
man. 

1232
01:08:23,500 --> 01:08:25,800
We gotta get you feeling better.
Yeah, work at him, going to go. 

1233
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,300
We gotta go, shoot some ducks. 
There's a lot of life left to 

1234
01:08:29,300 --> 01:08:30,899
live, man. 
We gotta get you feeling optimal

1235
01:08:30,899 --> 01:08:33,399
again. 
Yeah, I'm ready. 

1236
01:08:33,399 --> 01:08:37,300
And, and not, not only that, I 
just want to be able to finish 

1237
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:41,200
the gold that just 48 hours. 
Before me getting sick that I 

1238
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,800
had set. 
So that is my goal. 

1239
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,000
You know, I did one my wife, I'm
doing one more show just to give

1240
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,399
her the heads up. 
So I want to get back to where 

1241
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:54,000
I'm supposed to be. 
I'm going to now, have to work a

1242
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,899
little harder because I have 
been totally sedentary since 

1243
01:08:56,899 --> 01:09:00,000
January. 
I am heavier now than I had 

1244
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,000
them. 
So I've added another five to 

1245
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:06,100
six pounds on this Frame, that I
will tell you is pure fat, 

1246
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:10,100
that's all it is. 
I've only got four of my ABS 

1247
01:09:10,100 --> 01:09:12,000
remain in out of all of them 
that were there. 

1248
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:15,800
So, you know, I'm going to have 
a little extra work to do, but 

1249
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:19,700
that's okay. 
I have been physically way worse

1250
01:09:19,700 --> 01:09:23,000
than this before. 
So this is still a pretty good 

1251
01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,399
frame to start with. 
So I'm going to be okay getting 

1252
01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:28,200
back to where I want to be for 
show. 

1253
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:33,200
But overall I just want to get 
back to being able to live my 

1254
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,800
life, help others, as much as I 
can. 

1255
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:43,000
Be an inspiration to my boy. 
Voice and to just, you know, to 

1256
01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,399
Louisville my wife as much as 
humanly possible. 

1257
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,700
Because Robert I'm going to tell
you, man. 

1258
01:09:48,700 --> 01:09:51,700
You got that little one. 
By the way, congratulations on 

1259
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:53,700
your little one that you have. 
Thanks, man. 

1260
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,800
But you're going to you're going
to blink your eyes and they're 

1261
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,700
going to be walking across the 
stage graduating from school. 

1262
01:10:00,100 --> 01:10:02,400
And then you're going to blink 
your eyes and they're going to 

1263
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,700
be in their upper 20s. 
So the only thing I can tell you

1264
01:10:05,700 --> 01:10:09,600
is enjoy every single day as 
much as you can. 

1265
01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:13,500
Daily brush off the mistakes 
because you're going to make a 

1266
01:10:13,500 --> 01:10:16,100
bunch. 
But the one thing that can 

1267
01:10:16,100 --> 01:10:19,700
overcome all of that is love 
with Robert. 

1268
01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:22,400
Love your wife as much as 
humanly possible. 

1269
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,600
Love your child. 
Love your neighbor, love your 

1270
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:30,100
employees because the good word 
says and love overcomes all 

1271
01:10:30,100 --> 01:10:32,800
other sin. 
So just remember, love is the 

1272
01:10:32,808 --> 01:10:34,500
key. 
That's all I want to do, man, I 

1273
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:37,700
just want to love because life 
is too short, not to do that. 

1274
01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:39,900
Amen to that, man. 
I feel like there's There's a 

1275
01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:42,800
lot of there's such this weird 
stigma against love like the 

1276
01:10:42,808 --> 01:10:46,500
whole people, a people look at 
like what it is to be a man, be 

1277
01:10:46,500 --> 01:10:48,600
tough. 
Be like, you know, a leader in 

1278
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:54,400
society and they they put they 
put so many of the wrong things 

1279
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:58,100
on a pedestal feel like it's 
truly admirable to have somebody

1280
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,600
that showcases that that love 
and the desire to be the best 

1281
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,900
version of themselves that they 
can for others. 

1282
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:07,200
And that to me is just 
exponentially, more impressive, 

1283
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:10,300
more, you know, quote-unquote, 
manly or Whatever you want to 

1284
01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:13,900
call it, but that theory is is 
is the direction, people should 

1285
01:11:13,900 --> 01:11:15,300
go. 
And I feel like, you know, and 

1286
01:11:15,300 --> 01:11:17,600
what little I do know about 
Jimmy just in what we've done 

1287
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:20,600
working together and, you know, 
communicating over the years 

1288
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,900
like you, you are, you are 
showcasing that on every front, 

1289
01:11:23,900 --> 01:11:25,800
man. 
And I feel like there's a lot a 

1290
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,400
lot of inspiration that you put 
out there a lot of lot of 

1291
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:30,800
direction that you've impacted 
people in ways you don't even 

1292
01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,500
realize. 
So I mean all this, all this 

1293
01:11:33,500 --> 01:11:35,700
shit that you're going through 
now man, I just makes your story

1294
01:11:35,700 --> 01:11:38,400
that much better, that much more
inspirational, that much more 

1295
01:11:38,700 --> 01:11:41,700
transformative and Powerful. 
So, you know, if anybody can do 

1296
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:43,600
it, you can do it. 
And I'm just excited to see the 

1297
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:44,900
Journey. 
Keep On unfolding, man. 

1298
01:11:45,900 --> 01:11:47,700
Well, I appreciate you, bro. 
I really do. 

1299
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:52,000
And I will, like I said, I'm 
just waiting for this year to 

1300
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,400
get back to where I feel like 
it's semi-normal and I'm going 

1301
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,300
to be going back down there, 
finish my treatments and I'll 

1302
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,300
give you a shout and let you 
know whether I'm dragging them 

1303
01:12:01,300 --> 01:12:04,600
change back up down that 
driveway or not, or or back at 

1304
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:09,100
back in the gym, you know, 
starting my pre-contest stuff. 

1305
01:12:09,100 --> 01:12:12,400
So, I will definitely keep up 
with you and let you know and 

1306
01:12:12,500 --> 01:12:14,700
you and Crystal or traveling 
through this area and you need 

1307
01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:16,700
somewhere to stay definitely 
holler at me. 

1308
01:12:16,700 --> 01:12:19,100
If you're in Virginia, because 
we got a spare room, you welcome

1309
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:22,000
to it. 
The the animals wake up in the 

1310
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:23,600
morning. 
So there's plenty of reaches out

1311
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,400
there hollering screaming so you
don't have to worry about 

1312
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,800
bringing along Claudia. 
Hey, would likewise man if you 

1313
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,000
ever find yourself in Northwest 
Arkansas, you definitely let me 

1314
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:32,100
know brother and definitely, 
keep that fish. 

1315
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,600
There's ever anything I can do 
for you, man. 

1316
01:12:33,700 --> 01:12:36,300
You got my number brother yard 
Robert. 

1317
01:12:36,300 --> 01:12:39,500
I appreciate you man. 
You're awesome individual and 

1318
01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:43,700
Almost look at you like, how do 
you now 30? 

1319
01:12:44,500 --> 01:12:47,700
Okay, I'll guess I almost look 
at you like, you know, my boys, 

1320
01:12:47,700 --> 01:12:49,300
you're so close in their, their 
age. 

1321
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:52,200
I think you're to over do two 
years older than my oldest son. 

1322
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:53,900
I've been following you for so 
long. 

1323
01:12:54,100 --> 01:12:57,600
It almost feels like you're an 
adopted son of mine. 

1324
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:00,400
Yeah, I know that sounds weird, 
but that's just how it is. 

1325
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,900
It just seems like that. 
But well-known, let's tell the 

1326
01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:04,400
same such, man. 
I mean, I'd love to get a 

1327
01:13:04,407 --> 01:13:06,100
workout in with you. 
I love to go hunting with you. 

1328
01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,700
I mean, like, I just love to 
keep in touch with you brother. 

1329
01:13:09,500 --> 01:13:11,700
All right, Robert, we will 
definitely do that and thanks 

1330
01:13:11,700 --> 01:13:14,000
again for letting this 
information get out there. 

1331
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:15,600
Appreciate you man. 
You bet man? 

1332
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,100
Take care of me. 
All right, Robert, have a good 

1333
01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:18,300
one.