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Hello, ladies and gents Roberts.
Thanks kiddo. 

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Savage.com, and today I've got 
special guest Maria emmerich on 

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the line and we dive into all 
things nutrition. 

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We talk about Carnival, we talk 
about cutting coffee, we talk 

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about Dairy which talk about the
protein, sparing modified fast, 

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and satiety per calorie, talk 
about all kinds of things. 

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How to build muscle parenting 
around certain foods that you 

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would want your kids to eat 
certain foods, you would not 

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thoroughly into the 
conversation. 

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I've met with Maria on numerous 
occasions at various conferences

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and I always enjoy chatting with
And I've got no doubt that you 

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will take something from this 
conversation. 

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So without further Ado sit back 
relax and do a podcast with 

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Maria emmerich. 
And we are lying. 

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Maria, how are you? 
I'm great. 

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How are you doing? 
How's that baby treating you 

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he's the best, he's the best. 
He's 10 months old as of just a 

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few days ago and he's just so 
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Now I just love him to pieces. 
Oh, and it grows, and it grows 

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and it grows that is just such a
great time. 

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How old are yours now? 
12 and 13. 

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Well dirty. 
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even before covid, but yeah, 
their personalities grow as they

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grow. 
It's pretty wild. 

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What is the what's the 
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As we're probably, we're leaning
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don't really dug into it a whole
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So don't even know as far as, 
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with regard to homeschooling. 
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credit but Craig is done all of 
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So we don't follow a curriculum.
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guide it where we go and it's 
worked out really well. 

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Obviously, you do the basics, 
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writing, and all of that but, 
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really into art and photography.
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that changed everything. 
The online classes are pretty 

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mind-blowing and awesome. 
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a class about dinosaurs and so, 
they'll do that. 

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And it's really fun to be able 
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don't really get those 
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in high school. 
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college where you could pick 
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stimulated your interest, you 
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for just having that round in 
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Like did you know that you're 
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No, it was like, okay, it's time
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was like, I don't, I'll miss 
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school lunches sad. 
And I work with so many people, 

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I remember stories of this type 
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they would get an A, on their 
math paper and get a huge bag of

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Skittles, not just a personal 
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Skittles. 
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want to be, you know, we're not 
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I don't think we should reward. 
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And they do that a lot in the 
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So it was, you know, food and 
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a lot of things, you know? 
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Yeah. 
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public school when I was growing
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going to sound like everybody 
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things have changed so much 
since then even and it's like, I

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don't really like the direction,
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it comes to the traditional 
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No, I know, it's sad and I mean,
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for a little while and it's 
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I think it worked out really, 
really well for us and we talk 

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to them like, because, you know,
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they go towards the school and 
still, we still thinking take 

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any classes, they want at the 
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know, do you want to? 
And they're like, no no interest

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whatsoever and they'll fill the 
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next year, Michael. 
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some football but we know 
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any classes. 
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It was awesome. 
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have a little bit more oversized
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They're eating probably has 
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having to go through the public 
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My son eats about 3 tenderloin, 
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I'm going to be poor, but I 
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possible at the school. 
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think not. 
They probably a lot of venison 

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to, right? 
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I know. 
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hunters and we take out that 
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Yeah let's talk about that 
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people don't even realize that 
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that's like an awesome character
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I feel like you should be 
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Thank you, is probably one of my
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kidding. 
When I say that, I we have a lot

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of land where we live, and so, 
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out. 
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clothes on, and I think I told 
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there's no way I can like, get 
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because it's just so big. 
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underneath a hat and I sit for, 
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but you know, it's like 5:00 
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time to get some work going or I
need to move my body after I sit

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so long. 
I am little restless but I do 

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love it and I so I go every day 
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gotten some massive box which is
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Like you know what, the bow and 
arrow and everybody gives me 

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crap. 
So that's probably why I don't 

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talk about it too much. 
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in the keto space in the 
carnivore. 

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Space in the meat-based space. 
Give you crap for hunting stuff 

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like that. 
That's that I don't understand. 

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I remember telling Craig like, 
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grow on social media and this 
and that and he said just be 

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careful what you wish for the 
ones that do follow you really 

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like you. 
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big, then you get these people 
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especially on my Tick Tock. 
It's just I posted a video 

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probably of hunting. 
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gingerbread house, we make a 
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and stuff, and it's really fun. 
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And so I have all these vegans 
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bash me left and right all the 
time and I mean I've gotten a 

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thicker skin as I got older. 
But yeah on Instagram I got all 

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these people saying how cruel I 
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and then you would go to their 
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them eating hamburgers and like 
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I don't all yeah, that makes no 
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online are ruthless, you know, 
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first part of the business, you 
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putting ourselves out there, not
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with social media, and then 
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towards us and like, lots of 
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But then after a while, you 
just, you realized you what your

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intentions are. 
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misconstrue your intentions and 
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just honestly, not even worth 
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But it's hard. 
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person and so like people like 
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it's hurtful, you know, it hurt 
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thighs, as a kid and it hurts 
when they call me anorexic as an

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adult. 
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and I do lose sleep over, and I 
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sensitive, but then, that would 
be who I am and what I put into 

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the world. 
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Are you open to talking about 
that like people? 

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People make these accusations 
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you're anorexic. 
They call you anorexic on social

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media, like like a view. 
I'm assuming you've made post 

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illustrating that that's not the
case and they just, they don't 

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want any better. 
I don't know what their 

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intentions are, it's hard. 
I know, I know it's hard because

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I don't want to draw attention 
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First of all, I'm not that 
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also want people to know, okay? 
I eat really good food. 

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I'm very I don't eat any sugar. 
I don't drink any alcohol. 

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I don't drink coffee like. 
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And because of that, I get so 
much hate and it's sad because 

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like you said, we're putting 
like helpful information out 

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there for free for people and 
then they just make fun of you 

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and try to bring you down and I 
try not to let it bring me down 

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but they often win. 
But and they don't know who I 

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am. 
They don't know that struggles. 

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I'm dealing with. 
I know you did a podcast with 

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Craig but he suffers Brilliant 
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Spondylitis, which is where your
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turn to Bone. 
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at all. 
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get out of bed. 
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The jobs of the home and I think
that kind of consumed my, you 

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know, my life for a while and 
taking care of him and I don't 

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know. 
It's like they think that I 

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don't know. 
There's there's other things 

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that people are going through 
and struggling with and when 

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they just see your outward 
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right. 
Especially it seems like with 

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covid seems like when we'll just
started sitting around their 

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computers they can they just 
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of a person That's why I like 
podcast because a podcast, you 

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can sit down and have a 
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And like, there's much less room
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And, you know, just having 
inaccurate information ignorance

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towards what people's intentions
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You can have a conversation and 
flesh things out in detail and 

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the listeners if they're 
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actually internalize what people
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The point of trying to get 
across Yeah, you're right. 

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And I do, I love podcasts. 
I like to listen to him when I 

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work out, that's the thing to 
like, I don't sit still very 

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well. 
I'm a mover and a Shaker. 

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I'm always doing something and 
so yeah, I mean I'm not I guess 

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long time ago, I would try to 
soothe myself with food so I 

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would make a Panna cinnamon 
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the bad kind and I did the whole
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And I never feel better. 
It always made me feel worse. 

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And so I learned at a pretty 
young age that food doesn't make

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me feel better. 
And so when I am feeling low and

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Christ, not doing well, and we 
have other family, issues 

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struggles. 
Illnesses, when I'm dealing with

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those. 
I'm not one to eat a pan of Eber

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like my protein cinnamon rolls 
are, you know, I just I don't 

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know. 
So I don't see myself with food 

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anymore like I used to. 
Yeah, that's good, that's good. 

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What, what are some things that 
people are not know? 

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Bashing you for throwing shade 
your way. 

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Now that you would just like, to
clear the air on, is there 

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anything that's festering or is 
like that? 

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Not really being like as enough 
time elapsed that that's not 

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really, there's not anything 
that people are picking on you 

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for per se. 
No, it happens. 

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Often I was on the reverse 
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Yeah. 
And while I was on the show and 

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they were posting little Clips 
on Instagram, some people made 

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some really cruel comments and 
the producers like hey we need 

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to talk about this. 
We had a separate segment about 

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it but it's just interesting 
because he's like Maria's here, 

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she's eating all the food that 
we're all eating. 

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She's So running and working out
before anybody wakes up, she's 

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also, you know, doing this and 
that and so he was really cool 

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about it, but no one to happens 
all the time, but I am, I don't 

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I think I talk to you a little 

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bit about it when we had dinner 
and New York that I really 

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wanted to get stronger and so I 
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put a few pounds of muscle on so
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all the time and I loved it, but
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things in the family, I had to 
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Listen to, you know, take care 

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of myself but I started it again
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and man I just feel so much 
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Like just I love do it, I love 
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I don't I'm sad that I got out 
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there and within months I'm so 
much stronger. 

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I can bring my paddle board down
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have to have help or take a 
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great being strong and I love 
you. 

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The message that you put out 
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Yeah, for like gaining strength.
It just Is everyone to try and 

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maximize lean muscle retention 
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like that message off and gets 
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especially and a lot of the 
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they have nothing but you know, 
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Right, right? 
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searching for a number or a 
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number might not be lower but 
their body shapes going to be 

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like so much better and they 
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So like that's what I try to 
emphasize instead of focusing on

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a number. 
Yeah, for sure you'd be really 

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proud of me. 
I have quit coffee. 

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Believe it or not. 
Yeah he does. 

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Impose him, you were saying. 
Everybody should stop drinking 

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coffee and and that's like, it 
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hush over the room. 
Just like was very noticeable. 

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But I quit coffee, I think, 
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bothering me. 
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acid reflux, but I think just 
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mess with me. 
So I quit cold turkey and it's 

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been probably, I don't know six 
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He's even with a baby waking you
up at night. 

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Yeah, yeah, the it's awesome. 
Yeah. 

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So, no coffee for me. 
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morning like a cup or two of T, 
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So, I like my tea time still. 
You feel different, not really. 

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I mean I didn't really have any,
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withdrawals. 
I didn't have any caffeine 

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headaches and I had weaned down 
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prior to quitting the coffee. 
Not like intentionally. 

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milligrams of caffeine a day, 
which is just just unnecessary 

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amount. 
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to, like, one or two cups of 
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for probably about a year or so.
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just gonna switch and not have 
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I've not had any issues 
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different person other than I 
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acidity coming in. 
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little bit better. 
Well, that's good. 

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I mean I want to start and tell 
everybody I worked at a coffee 

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shop since I was 15 years old. 
Yeah, and I worked at different 

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ones throughout college and I 
love that job. 

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I basically a not had a free IV 
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understand the addiction I loved
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And I wish I would have taken 
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in my earlier days because you 
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androgens and when you have PCOS
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caffeine is going to keep those 
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So, you know, I promised to take
it more seriously, in the my 

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past. 
But, you know, it's been about 

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10 years. 
And I feel, I remember having 

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like one too many cups of coffee
and feeling like a rubber band 

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about to snap. 
Like I just like how much calmer

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I am but I still have that 
energy, you know, but just it's 

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different energy. 
Yeah. 

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I feel like it's not good to be,

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you know, dependent upon any 
substance and I Like a lot of 

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people truly are addicted. 
To the point of total energy 

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dependency on coffee and I think
that's certainly something you'd

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want to avoid. 
Yep. 

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And I mean it also makes you 
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don't want to, you know, happen.
So I don't know if there's a lot

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of different than everybody's 
like why are your teeth are so 

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white? 
You know, I was like well I 

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don't drink you know, coffee or 
sodas or you know wind things I 

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would say my teeth. 
Yeah. 

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For sure. 
Are you? 

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We were just talking about how 
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of social media, but are you on 
Twitter that much at all? 

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Um I so Craig has to do my 
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but I kind of jumped on there 
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it's just, it's a wild place to 
be on. 

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But yeah, I post on there quite 
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Now, I'm not very active on 
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the other day and there's this 
big debate around the SPC that 

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or satiety per calorie. 
Have you seen that? 

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Yeah, with tighten even. 
Yeah. 

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Naaman and dr. 
Ian felt, I don't know if I 

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pronounce his name right there, 
but yeah. 

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Yeah, I know them both very 
dearly and its people are really

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ripping their heads off and I 
understand what they're trying 

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to accomplish, but some people 
don't like it at all. 

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Can you? 
Because I feel like you're very 

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qualified person to talk about 
what it is. 

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They are trying to accomplish 
and then kind of Flesh that out 

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in Greater detail. 
I've had to name it on twice, I 

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believe in, I like to name a lot
alike and I have pretty similar 

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recommendations when it comes to
protein intake. 

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You know, for the individual 
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mass. 
So there's a lot more in common 

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that he and I share than not. 
So I like to name a lot but I'd 

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be curious to get your take on 
what it is. 

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They're trying to do. 
And what some of this pushback 

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is being triggered by Well, I 
mean, I won't say who it is but 

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she's pretty upset about she was
saying, even ha like dr. 

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Finney would be upset saying 
that the ketogenic diet is not a

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low-fat diet. 
When in fact, you know, someone 

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just posted a screenshot of 
their book saying, yes you 

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actually do. 
You know if weight loss has a 

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goal you dial down the dietary 
fat and that's what they're 

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trying to accomplish. 
Is that? 

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So protein, According to some is
basically, like, Three calories.

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Because it's going to is the 
building blocks of so many 

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processes of her body, but it's 
not a good energy source, right?

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So you need the either choose 
carbohydrates or fat. 

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I always lean towards the fat 
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carbohydrates is just a form of 
sugar and it causes a lot of 

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Cravings, right? 
Right. 

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So with that said, when a when a
food has more fat or 

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carbohydrates the you know, 
especially if it's a higher in 

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carbohydrates, it doesn't have 
protein or fat, it's going. 

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Be very low on the satiation 
scale. 

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If any satiation is there, 
right? 

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But then when you add in protein
is very satiating and fat as 

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moderately satiating, that's how
they're kind of like describing 

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this. 
And the reason protein is more 

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satiating than fat is because 
per calorie you get a lot more 

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protein versus fats and it's 
very satiating compared to the 

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energy that you get in a fat 
Cal. 

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So it's not that I'm saying that
fat is bad or they're saying 

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that fat is bad. 
It's just saying per calorie. 

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You know and people like well I 
hate talking about calories, 

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calories in calories out, don't 
work, but it's like to see 

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calories. 
Be nothing is ignorance, right? 

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So we have to talk about a 
little bit and that's why 

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they're bringing that up because
it's more than just calories. 

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Now, they're breaking it down 
into carbohydrates fat and 

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protein and within that, how 
satiating is it. 

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So that's kind of what they're 
Getting out. 

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I mean they're trying to reach 
the masses so they had like Diet

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Coke on there and that's like 
you know, super satiating per 

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calorie because it's zero 
calories is like oh man, why 

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they have to go to the diet? 
Kroger out, right? 

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Yeah. 
But they reach the masses and 

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that way. 
So depending on how many 

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calories it has shows and 
protein fat carbohydrates. 

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It gives you a scale, it's a 
whole new website. 

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It's not the diet doctor 
website, which is what dr. 

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Ian Fell does. 
It's a totally new website. 

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Which I mean, I find 
Interesting. 

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Am I gonna be really pushing 
that? 

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Probably not, because I think I 
differ on a lot of ideas, Ted 

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usually leans toward he's very, 
you know, he's on a protein 

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side. 
But then he goes towards 

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carbohydrates, rather than fat, 
yeah, where I might energy 

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source with, like fat. 
So when I mean, I can run 

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marathons on, you know, a zero 
carb diet. 

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So, I mean, I thrive on like the
fat for my energy rather than 

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the carbohydrate. 
Without a crash. 

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Yeah, totally it's interesting 
because I definitely applaud 

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what they're trying to do and I 
think there needs to be a 

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discussion around, you know, 
true satiety. 

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And for me, it, I mean, I've 
lost weight with high protein 

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low fat, I've lost weight with 
high fat, moderate protein, very

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low carb. 
Like I've done it all different 

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kinds of ways and they're 
certainly more than one way to 

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skin a cat as the saying goes, 
and I feel like a lot of it is 

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nuanced. 
I mean, some people Are going to

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respond better to one or another
modality. 

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They're going to find one more 
Saints sustainable than the 

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other. 
And I think anytime people try 

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to generalize something for the 
masses that people that are not 

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in those masses are going to 
take incredible offense to it. 

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Yeah, no, I totally agree and I 
let's be honest like the diet 

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dad's going to work for you is 
the one you comply to. 

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So it's nice to have a lot of 
options because for some people 

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Just not going to want to eat 
the way I eat. 

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They're not going to want to eat
the way you eat and what is 

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they're going to comply to and 
be successful with. 

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That's what we want to have that
option for so but I do think 

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people need to realize, you 
know, like the sheath of your 

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bones are made up of protein. 
You know your hair and you're 

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like all of these processes are 
made up so like you know when 

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people say oh it's so high 
protein, well I would say it's 

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more moderate protein. 
What I approach is, I mean, One,

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one gram per pound of lean. 
Mass is not a ton. 

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Yeah, you know, that's pretty, I
don't know, how are you? 

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Yeah. 
One gram of protein per pound of

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lean mass, or per pound of total
mass, depending on what your 

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composition is. 
That's pretty much my sweet 

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spot. 
Right. 

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I think that's for everyone, and
that's not just for like muscle 

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building or anything is for 
know, your bone health. 

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And you know, you look at these 
studies of people. 

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Reversing bone loss is like, 
where is that sweet? 

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What are they doing? 
That's what different, you know,

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it's K2 and protein. 
What about like people with like

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pitting edema. 
It's where they do a ketogenic 

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diet which is more Our protein 
based rather than fat. 

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So, I don't know, just a lot of 
information out there, but I 

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think when people hear the 
ketogenic diet they think, oh, 

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it's, you know, 20 grams of 
protein or, you know, some 

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really low wild number. 
Yeah. 

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And frustrating a little bit. 
It's a, it's funny because, you 

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know, for a while, everybody was
villainizing protein for fear of

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gluconeogenesis and they were 
just consuming, copious amounts 

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of fat but not a Protein. 
And now the the Halo has been 

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given to protein and it's almost
as though fat is starting to 

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become villainize with an Aikido
low-carb space which is also 

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interesting. 
It's like the pendulum has swung

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too far on either extreme. 
Like the answer is somewhere in 

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the middle. 
Right. 

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And I don't I mean I've been 
doing this with clients for 20 

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years now on I there wasn't this
huge debate for, you know it was

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just there. 
Also wasn't all these junkie 

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products out there to like 
Duncan Hines, you know, keto 

444
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brownie mix or whatever but so I
think that's where a lot of 

445
00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:18,000
confusion comes into play or, 
you know, exaggerated as ketones

446
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,700
but I do feel, I remember 
writing one of my first books 

447
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,000
and someone that was very you 
know, who he was. 

448
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,900
He was very predominant in this 
space. 

449
00:24:27,900 --> 00:24:31,500
He's like, oh no Maria too much,
protein turns into sugar and I 

450
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:34,000
was like, what I was like, 
second-guessing everything. 

451
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,600
Like I put out there looking to 
that. 

452
00:24:38,700 --> 00:24:46,000
And yeah, I gluconeogenesis is 
exactly what enables the body to

453
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,600
be in ketosis. 
Yeah, you know, and Ivana zero 

454
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,600
carb diet, so I don't fear it 
anymore. 

455
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,400
Yeah, definitely. 
Don't think there needs to be 

456
00:24:54,408 --> 00:24:56,100
any fear associated with 
protein. 

457
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,100
I do think there is a likely, an
upper threshold to what one 

458
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:02,200
would optimize with in regards 
to protein. 

459
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,200
Like, if you like, if you weigh 
150 pounds and you're consuming 

460
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,700
between 100 and, you know, 40 
and 100 70 grams of protein, 

461
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,200
that doesn't necessarily mean 
that 300 grams of proteins going

462
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,900
to be better for you. 
Right. 

463
00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:16,900
No II agree. 
There's definitely. 

464
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:21,900
But you know, I the most of it, 
I'm primarily work with women. 

465
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:23,900
Usually maybe in menopause. 
So why not? 

466
00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:27,500
I'm struggling to get them to 
even get to that minimum amount 

467
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:28,700
of. 
Yeah. 

468
00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:34,900
Protein totally. 
And I feel like the like total 

469
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:38,800
intake often times does not. 
It's not as prominent as it 

470
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,000
should be within the 
conversation. 

471
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,600
Like people like to throw out 
percentages of total calories 

472
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,400
coming. 
Fat or protein, but if you don't

473
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,400
have the context of what the 
total consumption is, all those 

474
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,800
numbers become arbitrary. 
Like and I think honestly, 

475
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,400
that's often times why people 
try and pit tent name. 

476
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:59,900
It against me and you against me
as they have in the past. 

477
00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:02,700
It's like they automatically 
assume that I'm high fat, low 

478
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:04,800
protein. 
Whereas in reality, we're all 

479
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,500
pretty much agreeing on the same
protein intake. 

480
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,700
I'm just also eating quite a bit
of calories and Amanda quite a 

481
00:26:10,708 --> 00:26:13,300
lot of energy. 
So my dietary fat ratio as a 

482
00:26:13,308 --> 00:26:15,100
percentage of total calories I 
was quite High. 

483
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,100
Right? 
And you're working with 

484
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:21,600
athletes. 
Yeah, I'm not most of that. 

485
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,600
I'm not. 
I mean, the most interesting 

486
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,900
person I worked with this last 
few months. 

487
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:29,900
She was going to be a Naked and 
Afraid or she is, uh, Naked and 

488
00:26:29,900 --> 00:26:32,500
Afraid right now. 
And she's like, Maria, I need to

489
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,300
gain a bunch of weight before I 
go on Dating Naked and Afraid. 

490
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:39,300
So, I was like, well, the best 
thing to do is, you know, fat 

491
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,700
plus carbohydrates. 
That's the greatest way to gain 

492
00:26:41,700 --> 00:26:44,900
some fat and, you know, she did 
it. 

493
00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:47,800
So she could survive - Reina one
time. 

494
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:51,900
But that was, that was fun. 
Yeah, that's I don't know if I 

495
00:26:51,900 --> 00:26:53,700
could ever do naked and afraid. 
I don't know if that'd be my 

496
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,000
forte. 
Well, no, have you ever watched 

497
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,400
a loan on the History Channel? 
I have seen an episode of alone.

498
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,600
I listen to a podcast with one 
of the guys that wanted on Joe 

499
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,500
Rogan's podcast and that was 
super interesting. 

500
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:10,600
Like the the concept of how they
built that show is pretty pretty

501
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,900
insightful. 
It is insightful. 

502
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:16,900
I watched it with my kids a 
couple of years back, we really 

503
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:21,200
got into it and I remember this 
one, dude, he was a vegan for 

504
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,700
the past 17 years, and when he 
got to his spot where he had to 

505
00:27:25,708 --> 00:27:29,400
live, he quickly gave up his 
vegan lifestyle. 

506
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,000
Because he's like, I can't spend
all day foraging for food. 

507
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,600
I need to catch one fish a day, 
survive off of that and focus on

508
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,400
building a shelter getting 
water. 

509
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,900
It was just interesting how when
we think about Human survival. 

510
00:27:43,900 --> 00:27:47,600
A vegan diet is not sustainable.
Yeah, I think when you are 

511
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:53,700
subjected to the elements and 
all of the, the nice to haves in

512
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:56,800
your life are stripped from you,
then you really gain a lot of 

513
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:59,900
clarity as to, what is truly 
important, what is truly 

514
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:01,300
sustainable? 
What is truly optimal. 

515
00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:05,200
Like, I think so much of this 
discourse, unhealthy discourse 

516
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,200
and just debate and turmoil that
we see right now within the 

517
00:28:09,208 --> 00:28:12,900
society politically 
nutritionally, you know, Little 

518
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:15,200
policy-wise. 
It's all because people have so 

519
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,300
much of their fingertips 
anywhere, they're just looking 

520
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:20,800
for things to argue about. 
Oh, you meant that. 

521
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,300
I mean, you know, Johnny Depp 
you bought an island and he 

522
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:26,300
called, I won't swear, but he 
called it f off Island because 

523
00:28:26,300 --> 00:28:29,400
like, that's brilliant. 
Let's go. 

524
00:28:30,100 --> 00:28:33,700
I like that, I like that. 
I feel like we should definitely

525
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:37,000
touch on protein, sparing 
modified fast, I had Nick said 

526
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,100
Craig one not too long ago. 
We talked about that and in 

527
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:43,200
depth but for you and I to talk 
about it for anybody that has 

528
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,100
any questions on that. 
And I said, I told you this when

529
00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,000
we were having dinner at a in 
New York as well. 

530
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:53,900
Well, but people, they try to 
make issues with within people 

531
00:28:53,900 --> 00:28:58,200
within different communities and
I have never meant to offend you

532
00:28:58,200 --> 00:28:59,600
online. 
I certainly hope that's never 

533
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:00,800
anything. 
I've said I've never been 

534
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,600
directed towards you ORS, seen 
as a pensive but when it comes 

535
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,000
to protein, sparing modified 
fast, I'd love to just get your 

536
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,600
take on it and dispel any rumors
that may be circulating there. 

537
00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:15,400
I would love to talk about that 
and yeah, I know it was it was 

538
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,800
great to be able to just talk to
you one on one about the, you 

539
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,800
know, the people in the issues 
and all that. 

540
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:26,800
But so when I started my 
journey, this was 26 years ago. 

541
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,500
My anniversaries in March, 26 
years ago, I was diagnosed with 

542
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:35,800
PCOS acid reflux, depression IBS
and I didn't want to take those 

543
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,700
for prescription drugs. 
I was given so I decided to 

544
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:40,700
change my diet. 
There wasn't the internet back 

545
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:42,900
then. 
But if you do your research and 

546
00:29:42,900 --> 00:29:47,200
what causes this infertility and
a female, it's excess caffeine 

547
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,200
sugar and carbohydrates and I 
was like, living off of cinnamon

548
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,700
rolls and coffee, right? 
So I had to change my diet, a 

549
00:29:54,700 --> 00:30:01,100
lot and right away my 
depression, I swear it lifted 

550
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:06,900
overnight, my acid reflux, one 
away, my IBS went away, but my 

551
00:30:06,900 --> 00:30:12,400
weight loss was very difficult, 
and so what I would, Do I call 

552
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,300
them my pure protein days? 
And I wish I would have stuck 

553
00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:19,900
with that term because it's not 
really a medical protein sparing

554
00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,700
modified fast approach where you
do this long-term. 

555
00:30:23,900 --> 00:30:27,300
I would do pure protein days 
where I lowered the fats. 

556
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:31,600
I cut out all the dairy which I 
think is another the topic we 

557
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,600
could talk about and I focused 
on leader proteins and I would 

558
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,300
do that like two days a week. 
The rest of days were like 

559
00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:43,600
regular keto type match Rose. 
But I still was dairy free and 

560
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,300
not free because those things 
would cause me to gain weight. 

561
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:52,700
So these pure protein days, they
just evolved, I made the that 

562
00:30:52,700 --> 00:30:55,200
protein bread that's made with 
the egg whites, it's pretty 

563
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,200
wild. 
That was that recipes, you know,

564
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,300
17 years old, I would live off 
of that makes and witches with 

565
00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:06,400
it this and that and then when 
I, you know, was talking about 

566
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:09,600
the pure protein days Craig's 
like yeah there's like something

567
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,600
called the proteins are modified
fast, which is a A lot in a line

568
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,200
with what you were doing. 
You know, maybe we should just 

569
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,900
call it that to be more 
mainstream people can, you know,

570
00:31:18,900 --> 00:31:22,300
look into it more, but I don't 
recommend and there's some 

571
00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:25,400
people out there, some doctors 
out there that recommend doing 

572
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:30,500
this for like months, on end day
after day and I do believe there

573
00:31:30,500 --> 00:31:35,600
will be a metabolic adaptation 
where you need a lower caloric 

574
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,200
intake where I even do an 
overfeeding day with my pure 

575
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,200
protein days. 
I don't do them anymore, but 

576
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,300
when Work with clients to do 
them and just kind of mix up the

577
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,700
calories and this is in place of
a water fast. 

578
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:53,400
So you know a lot of people are 
pushing you know doing a water 

579
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,600
fast every other day I'm saying.
Okay instead of doing that, lets

580
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,500
do a pure protein day where it 
is very low in calories. 

581
00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,000
But you're getting enough 
protein to maintain muscle mass 

582
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,000
because we know that you do lose
lean muscle tissue with the 

583
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,800
water fast and you get the 
Giants. 

584
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,600
Because the nutrients are in the
protein, we can argue that 

585
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,200
that's where, you know, that 
those all are. 

586
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,100
So it's basically, you know, 
you're getting your vitamins 

587
00:32:18,100 --> 00:32:21,600
minerals in, you're getting 
enough fat to absorb vitamins, a

588
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,800
d and K enough fat for your 
hormones, and but it's very low 

589
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,100
in calories and it's basically 
all protein. 

590
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:34,900
So it works really well. 
Like it's pretty, it's pretty 

591
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,700
wild. 
How fast it works for people. 

592
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,000
And that's the thing. 
Like I, you know, like we're 

593
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:41,400
saying is not all about weight 
loss. 

594
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:46,700
Someone's in this metabolic 
shitstorm where they have, you 

595
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,600
know, insulin resistance and 
they're on every medication. 

596
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,000
You can imagine the best way to 
reverse insulin resistance is to

597
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,400
shrink the fat cells and to gain
or at least maintain your muscle

598
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200
mass. 
You have more places for the 

599
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,500
glucose to goal, and that's 
where focusing on, you know, 

600
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:08,000
protein and cutting the calories
down a few days a week. 

601
00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,400
Really, really help. 
Instead of doing a water fast. 

602
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,700
Yeah, I definitely. 
Think the extended fasting has 

603
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,900
there's definitely a use case 
where fasting makes a lot of 

604
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,200
sense like I kind of intimate 
and fast by default daily 

605
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,500
anyways. 
But like the extended fasting 

606
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:26,000
like I said there's a place for 
that but I think it's gained so 

607
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,100
much momentum that people are 
kind of using it to their 

608
00:33:28,100 --> 00:33:32,700
detriment in a lot of ways. 
So not overly fasting is going 

609
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:35,500
to be key. 
I think for me like I just try 

610
00:33:35,500 --> 00:33:41,400
to construct a dietary protocol 
that is not overly restrictive. 

611
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,900
For like what a lot of people do
people are people are suckers 

612
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,000
for wanting to get results very 
quickly at the expense of their 

613
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,100
health and doing ways that are 
not sustainable. 

614
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:53,200
And I feel like if you tell 
somebody hey do a pure protein 

615
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,200
day, one day a week and then 
having overfeeding day they're 

616
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,900
going to do a protein day one 
day a week. 

617
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:00,400
They're going to see that drop 
in the scale from that lack of 

618
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,200
intake. 
They're going to forget that you

619
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,100
said have a overfeeding day that
you're going to do pure protein 

620
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,699
days, you know, seven days a 
week and that's what people want

621
00:34:08,699 --> 00:34:11,300
to do. 
I do see that and I'm like, no. 

622
00:34:11,500 --> 00:34:15,100
Has you know I really encourage 
people to not or they feel so 

623
00:34:15,100 --> 00:34:20,100
good and they love those like 
but the reason you feel so good 

624
00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:23,000
is maybe because you don't eat 
the dairy and the nuts and 

625
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:26,900
things that aren't making. 
You feel that great on your off 

626
00:34:26,900 --> 00:34:30,699
days, or you see the apps that 
were they, the see the skill. 

627
00:34:30,699 --> 00:34:32,199
Go down. 
So then they're overfeeding 

628
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:34,600
days, like a pizza. 
Had a do, like nobody said, new 

629
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,400
pizza on your overfeeding day. 
I'm talking like have some ribs 

630
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:42,800
or chicken wings, you know, some
fatty meats and Yeah. 

631
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,400
I mean people can construe 
things all the time and it's 

632
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,699
hard because I do work with 
women and men with eating 

633
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:53,300
disorders and they'll take it to
the you know, 10th degree. 

634
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,800
Yeah. 
I feel like it's just like 

635
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,600
there's so much benefit to be 
had for spending time in a 

636
00:34:58,607 --> 00:35:01,100
caloric deficit just as there's 
benefit to be hand for spending 

637
00:35:01,100 --> 00:35:04,100
time in the caloric Surplus, 
it's kind of like the yin yang 

638
00:35:04,100 --> 00:35:07,500
situation like you can you can't
really optimized for one unless 

639
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:09,900
you have time spent in the other
so to speak. 

640
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:11,400
I do. 
Yes, I absolutely. 

641
00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:13,900
Absolutely agree with that and 
like even intermittent fasting, 

642
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:18,800
it kind of happens naturally. 
And even my children here, it's 

643
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,800
that it's still quite early, 
it's only 9:00 a.m., but my 

644
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,800
children haven't eaten yet. 
They will probably eat maybe 

645
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,400
around noon. 
But like I'm 12, I'm up at four 

646
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,100
am working, I know you're an 
early bird to. 

647
00:35:32,700 --> 00:35:36,300
So I've eaten my first meal 
ready but like they and I then I

648
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:40,400
quit much earlier than them but 
even my kids I don't make them 

649
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,800
fast but they're not. 
Hungry in the morning and that 

650
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,300
freaks my mother Alba to do 
because you know, she's getting 

651
00:35:46,300 --> 00:35:49,700
a new to the space, she's not 
into, you know, keto at all 

652
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,300
really. 
But she thinks they're, you 

653
00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:57,200
know, just dying observation or 
something like no, no, they're 

654
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,800
just fine. 
If they don't want to eat 

655
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,900
breakfast. 
It'll be okay. 

656
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:02,600
Mom, if they're staying with 
Grandma. 

657
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,600
Yeah, well, this, this notion 
that we need to always be like, 

658
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,800
grazing throughout the day is 
such a misconstrued notion, the 

659
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,300
first place like that. 
When did that ever happen in 

660
00:36:11,300 --> 00:36:14,100
nature? 
Nature for us as a species lover

661
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,000
and you see kids at the zoo, you
know, and their strollers eaten 

662
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,100
away on the Cheerios and things 
like that. 

663
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:23,300
And it's just It's hard. 
I tried on to be a judge a 

664
00:36:23,308 --> 00:36:27,000
person but when I see a little 
kid that can't even talk eating 

665
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
a french fry, I get you know 
really sad for them. 

666
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:32,200
Yeah. 
I mean will the the amount of 

667
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,600
adolescents that are like sub 10
years old, that have diabetes 

668
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,000
already. 
It's like whatever trajectory we

669
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,300
headed on right now is clearly 
not the right one. 

670
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:44,100
It's not, it's just getting 
worse. 

671
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,100
I mean they're making like 
10,000 new chemicals in food 

672
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,900
every year. 
It's wild. 

673
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,000
That's allowed in these foods. 
And that's what they're living 

674
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,600
off of at school and there's 
snacks. 

675
00:36:55,600 --> 00:37:00,700
And that's just why I'm so I 
wrote the sugar-free kids book 

676
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:06,700
with Halle Berry because I 
wanted people to just be open to

677
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,500
because, you know, I don't want 
to call it a keto kids cookbook.

678
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,900
I wanted it to be a sugar free. 
Because everybody agrees sugars,

679
00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:18,200
not good for you, but it is a 
ketogenic cookbook for kids to. 

680
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:20,700
But most people say I'm not, I 
don't even have children. 

681
00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:23,700
That's my favorite book. 
Yeah, because it was just 

682
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:27,100
delicious fun food. 
And, you know, it's weird that I

683
00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:29,600
mean, like, with food, actually,
that's a good question for you 

684
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:33,500
when it comes to, you know, like
when they go to spin time that 

685
00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:35,900
when your kids go to spend time 
with other members of the family

686
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:39,100
that aren't really in the know, 
like, how do you, how do you do 

687
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,700
that? 
Like, how do you like, this is a

688
00:37:40,707 --> 00:37:43,600
selfish question because like 
when I Let them spend time with 

689
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:48,200
my parents and how do you 
embrace the idea that they not 

690
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,800
gonna have a clue what they're 
doing with Newton guards 

691
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:53,200
nutrition? 
Well, now, my children. 

692
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,700
No. 
I mean they're 12 and 13. 

693
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:59,600
They know as much as like most 
adults know about nutrition or 

694
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,600
like people that I work with 
like they're very knowledgeable.

695
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,500
What makes them feel good, what 
makes him feel bad, they 

696
00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:09,600
personally make the choice to 
not eat it. 

697
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,900
And probably tell the people 
like you know what skills are 

698
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:15,200
Doing your body like Bill talked
about the food guy and this and 

699
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,900
that where I'm like some people 
don't want to know that you know

700
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:22,100
you know like somebody's. 
So somebody on the beach was 

701
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:24,000
eating an apple. 
You like they said, oh, you 

702
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,200
know, that's just sugar. 
And I was like, oh, you know, 

703
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,900
don't wanna, you know, be 
reprimanded all the time. 

704
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:34,100
But anyway, when they were 
younger, it was hard and I would

705
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:37,700
just ask, you know, my parents 
like I would be make most of the

706
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:42,000
food and say, here you go. 
Like we never really left them. 

707
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,900
Way. 
But when we did it was like 

708
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:47,900
here's their dinner, will be 
back at this time, you know. 

709
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:54,100
And it was just fine, but now 
it's fun to be able to trust 

710
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:57,600
them and even if they did get 
bombarded with sugar, they'll 

711
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,900
usually tell me and say I never 
want to do that again, but it's 

712
00:39:01,900 --> 00:39:05,500
a very rare occasion. 
Did you get a lot of pushback 

713
00:39:05,500 --> 00:39:08,300
from people in the community 
around the community? 

714
00:39:08,300 --> 00:39:12,800
That just assumed that in order 
for kids to have A, you know, 

715
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,800
proper developmental phase in 
their life. 

716
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,300
They have to consume some degree
from hydrates, still all the 

717
00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:22,800
time, not that they need 
carbohydrates to girl maybe. 

718
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,500
But oh, they're just kids. 
Let them just be kids but it's 

719
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:28,800
like, yeah, we let them be kids.
And then at 18, they have all 

720
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,900
these metabolic disorders and 
they're addicted to sugar and we

721
00:39:32,900 --> 00:39:35,200
expect them to just change. 
I'm really grateful. 

722
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,800
I had to change my diet when I 
was 16 because my friends are in

723
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,700
their 40s and they're like, 
crap. 

724
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,300
I These habits that are still 
hard to break and, you know, 

725
00:39:45,300 --> 00:39:49,800
like I don't even see that stuff
as food anymore, where that's 

726
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:56,000
their habit and I am grateful. 
My, I mean, you are in charge my

727
00:39:56,200 --> 00:40:02,300
my son's first food was bone 
marrow and cash, what else like 

728
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:05,200
they would eat salmon and bone 
marrow and egg yolks and bone 

729
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,200
broth. 
They would drink bone broth like

730
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:11,200
it was going out of style, like,
it wasn't traditional 

731
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:16,300
whatsoever. / but and it took 
work to make, but it was totally

732
00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:19,600
worth it because they have 
definitely a Savory palate 

733
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:21,500
versus a sweet tooth. 
Yeah. 

734
00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:27,600
And you know they know what 
foods make them feel good. 

735
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,700
If we aren't, we all know what 
foods make us feel good and what

736
00:40:30,700 --> 00:40:34,000
make us feel bad, but being able
to make that choice to choose, 

737
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,200
the one that makes us feel good.
That's empowering, you know, 

738
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:41,700
totally, yeah. 
Rachel's first food was bone 

739
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:42,400
marrow. 
As well. 

740
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:47,700
I mean, he eats salmon full-fat 
yogurt, bone marrow, avocado one

741
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:49,500
occasion. 
You know, eggs. 

742
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,500
That's pretty much his go-to 
meals right there. 

743
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:53,700
That's awesome. 
And you know what? 

744
00:40:53,700 --> 00:40:55,900
They're little people. 
It's not that hard to make it 

745
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:57,200
right? 
Yeah, for sure. 

746
00:40:57,700 --> 00:41:00,800
So speaking of dares talk about 
Dairy so you don't consume any 

747
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:06,900
day, right? 
Um, me personally, I didn't when

748
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,900
I was in my weight-loss, like, 
cutting mode now that I am, you 

749
00:41:11,908 --> 00:41:14,000
know, maybe true, even trying to
bulk up a little bit. 

750
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:18,500
I do have some Dairy. 
It's my, I do like that fat like

751
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,300
I think we had the best burrata 
cheese. 

752
00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,100
Remember what that dinner? 
That's right. 

753
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:27,400
That was very good. 
But when someone is like 

754
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:32,100
struggling to lose weight, like 
I posted on Instagram, two days 

755
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:40,000
ago, Oh, about Twila, Twila has 
lost 270 pounds, and she is 

756
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,200
staying at her place in Maui at 
our other place. 

757
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:48,100
And she came to visit and she's 
like Maria, I'm, you know, she 

758
00:41:48,100 --> 00:41:49,600
was frustrated because she was 
up a little bit. 

759
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,100
She's like, cuz I know it was 
Dairy and I just got to cut it 

760
00:41:52,100 --> 00:41:54,200
back out again. 
And I said, do you feel any 

761
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:58,500
other symptoms like your gut 
hurts or, you know, acid reflux,

762
00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:01,500
your skin breaks out she goes. 
Nope, but the scale will go up 

763
00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:05,800
whenever I have And I find that 
not just with what I love with a

764
00:42:05,808 --> 00:42:07,300
lot of people. 
There's some guy on Twitter's 

765
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:10,700
like, dick, I'm you Maria, you 
know, that I cut the dairy out 

766
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,300
and I'm downtown palms and it's 
just interesting. 

767
00:42:13,300 --> 00:42:17,100
Dairy is a more common allergen 
than gluten is. 

768
00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:22,900
But we poopoo gluten in this 
Kido space but we don't address 

769
00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:26,600
Dairy at all. 
Yeah, what is interesting that 

770
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
of all the species? 
All the mammalian species were 

771
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,000
the only ones that don't wean 
off Dairy. 

772
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,100
Man it's a big addiction like 
I'm from Wisconsin. 

773
00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:40,600
I love cheese and it was like 
the hardest thing to cut out. 

774
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:45,000
But do you think it's mostly 
like if you're equating for 

775
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:48,300
calories and people are still 
seeing an increase in weight? 

776
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:50,300
Is that just an inflammatory 
driver there? 

777
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,700
Oh yeah. 
Because it's not even if they're

778
00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:59,100
eating the same caloric amount 
and they'll still go up like 

779
00:42:59,100 --> 00:43:03,400
even eating like things like you
Cottage cheese. 

780
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Like that's a higher protein, 
too fat. 

781
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,600
They'll definitely put on the 
weight and it has nothing to do 

782
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:10,300
with calories. 
It's nothing to do with 

783
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:14,600
overeating it but it is 
everything about some 

784
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,800
inflammation is happening. 
That your body's just saying. 

785
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:21,600
No, this is not for me and it's 
hard because I mean I love I 

786
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,800
love making recipes with a cuz 
it makes everything more 

787
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,500
delicious. 
But a lot of times it's just 

788
00:43:27,500 --> 00:43:29,800
when you're trying if you're 
really stuck at a weight or 

789
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,000
something like that you just got
to cut it out for a little bit. 

790
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,000
And what will the proxy are you 
using to see? 

791
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,100
Like, if people are inflamed 
like, is it just a matter of 

792
00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:42,800
like, does your gut tolerated? 
Well, do you have? 

793
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,700
Because I don't think I have any
Sensitivity. 

794
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:48,200
I never been tested for day but 
I consume you know, heavy cream 

795
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,300
and whatnots cheese. 
I don't notice any issues with 

796
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:54,200
it whatsoever, so I'm assuming I
don't have any sensitivities but

797
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:59,900
I've never tested for it, right.
I mean, I usually 99% of people 

798
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:02,100
come with me because they want 
to lose fat. 

799
00:44:03,100 --> 00:44:06,600
And in that case, we just 
automatically go, dairy, free, 

800
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,300
not free. 
And that's why most of my books 

801
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,900
and, you know, my meal plans are
dairy free and not free because 

802
00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:16,400
it sounds really hard, but it's 
not it's not hard at all and it 

803
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,200
can be delicious too. 
So that's where we go and then 

804
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:26,500
they can add it in after a month
to see what happens to their 

805
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,200
response because sometimes we 
just don't know how good we can 

806
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,700
feel until we get stuff out of 
our diet. 

807
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:35,200
Yeah. 
Totally so even if they're not 

808
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,900
having a physical like reaction,
they might see the the scale 

809
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,400
went up. 
And again it wasn't a caloric 

810
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,400
thing. 
It was because they added butter

811
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,400
or and so will you know starting
with like goat cheese or 

812
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:49,900
something like that is usually 
more well-tolerated. 

813
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:53,000
What's interesting is I know a 
lot of people that will go to 

814
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,800
Europe or like I have friends 
that live in Europe and then 

815
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:00,500
they'll come the United States 
blow up like mad with the 

816
00:45:00,500 --> 00:45:03,500
American Dairy but the year 
European Dairy, they have no 

817
00:45:03,500 --> 00:45:06,000
problem with her like the yogurt
or something in Europe. 

818
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,000
They have no response to but 
here it's different. 

819
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:12,900
Hmm. 
Yeah, I've heard that as well. 

820
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,700
Same thing with like, the people
are consuming Breads and whatnot

821
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,500
in America versus that of, you 
know, you're paying, you know, 

822
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,300
areas that they don't have near 
the issues with it. 

823
00:45:22,300 --> 00:45:29,600
It seems Don't have much as much
gluten in their flowers as we do

824
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,100
and that's why the recipes are 
usually different do it. 

825
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:36,700
I am a big fan of Julia Child. 
And I know that was the big 

826
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:41,700
issue when she was writing, her 
cookbooks because her other 

827
00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:47,400
recipe DeRuyter was in Paris. 
France, and flour was totally 

828
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,300
different. 
Huh. 

829
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,400
Interesting. 
I haven't used too much flour 

830
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,600
that lately so I don't know 
that. 

831
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,100
Yeah, I know I don't get your 
butt but yeah. 

832
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,100
The the dairy aspect is 
interesting for sure. 

833
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,100
So what is your diet looking 
like currently? 

834
00:46:00,100 --> 00:46:03,700
Cause you're not doing any, you 
know, pure protein days. 

835
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:06,500
You're doing more of a trying to
focus on building more lean 

836
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:07,800
tissue. 
So what is, what is a typical 

837
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:08,800
day? 
If you didn't look like for you 

838
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:14,900
now, Um, so after I, you know, 
do my weight, I still run a 

839
00:46:14,908 --> 00:46:19,400
little bit, but I do my weights 
to I'll have, I like a 

840
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,100
tenderloin. 
I'm not a big fan of like a rib 

841
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:24,500
eye. 
I love tenderloin filet mignon. 

842
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:28,300
So I have a tenderloin for 
breakfast and I usually make my 

843
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,800
like truffle steak sauce with 
it. 

844
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,300
I just have that in the fridge 
time. 

845
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:37,500
So it's pretty quick and simple 
and takes what? 

846
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:41,500
Four minutes to cook up a steak 
real quick and So, I'll have 

847
00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:45,600
that for breakfast and then for 
lunch, I mean I'm living on the 

848
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,400
beach. 
So I have fish for lunch and I 

849
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:53,800
love mahi-mahi and I make this 
coconut ginger sauce with it. 

850
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,000
So I'll have like a big piece of
that maybe a few double legs 

851
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:02,700
with it. 
And then I just did the video on

852
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:04,900
how to make my carnivore deviled
eggs or really good. 

853
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,200
So check. 
And then for dinner. 

854
00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:13,400
I'm like a creature of habit. 
Like my breakfast and lunch are 

855
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,800
pretty much the same because I 
like it and I can kind of focus 

856
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,800
on work and not think too much 
about other things and then 

857
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:23,600
dinner will change depending on,
you know what, we're having 

858
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:27,400
sometimes. 
It's like tacos with my protein 

859
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,900
sparing. 
Again it's I'm not eating 

860
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:34,100
protein spring but I make these 
like protein wraps, the really 

861
00:47:34,100 --> 00:47:36,300
easy to make and they're always 
in the freezer. 

862
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:42,400
So we'll do like tacos or I 
don't know, like, burgers. 

863
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,700
We have like Burger night, and 
then we could either just have 

864
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:49,500
them plain, or will put it in 
my, the protein bread, where you

865
00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:56,100
whip the egg whites, and then I 
always end my day, like, after 

866
00:47:56,100 --> 00:47:59,500
dinner I'll have, like, an have 
you tried the equip shakes? 

867
00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:01,200
They're made with beef? 
Yeah, I've tried them. 

868
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:04,000
You pretty good? 
I really, I really like them. 

869
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,200
I like the strawberry. 
So I like having a little 

870
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000
dessert every day and so it's a 
beef. 

871
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:14,200
Protein little shake. 
So, I'll have that for dessert, 

872
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,900
but that's kind of like my day 
usually typically and it's still

873
00:48:16,900 --> 00:48:22,100
in that, you know, like 18:6 
type of window. 

874
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,000
But yeah, do you know what, the 
macros wind up averaging out on 

875
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:32,500
that typically? 
I personally don't, it might be 

876
00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:38,300
like a one-to-one ratio. 
But I don't, I haven't really 

877
00:48:38,300 --> 00:48:41,000
checked it and you're getting 
stronger building muscle. 

878
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,200
So everything's working there, 
right? 

879
00:48:42,500 --> 00:48:45,300
It is working there. 
I mean, I'm focused on County 

880
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,600
everybody else's macros so I 
mean he gets a little 

881
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,300
overwhelming but yeah, I know 
that's how I met. 

882
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:56,800
So, my day usually runs nice. 
So you posted about sauna used 

883
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,100
to do this, on a pretty regular 
But it's not the saunas. 

884
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:04,100
Honestly are hard for me because
I don't like to be hot. 

885
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:06,700
I like to be cold. 
So, cold therapy. 

886
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:12,600
I have a bathtub just for ice 
and I love doing that and it's 

887
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,800
much easier than sitting in a 
sauna, but I do believe that 

888
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,100
there's benefits of doing both 
together. 

889
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:23,100
But yeah, saunas, definitely. 
I know, most people are the 

890
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:24,700
opposite. 
They like to be hot. 

891
00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:27,000
I do not. 
Well, I'm a fan of the cold 

892
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,800
therapy for sure. 
We just bought a Stock tank from

893
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,700
like Tractor Supply going been, 
you know, it's been cold enough 

894
00:49:33,700 --> 00:49:34,900
for the, we haven't had to put 
ice in. 

895
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,300
It's just been cold naturally 
and will wake up jumping at 

896
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:41,800
think first thing in the morning
and there's like, a whole bunch 

897
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,000
of supposed benefits to it. 
I'm sure some of them are true. 

898
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,200
I'm sure some of them are just 
fancy marketing but all that to 

899
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,100
say, I like waking up and just 
doing something, you know, 

900
00:49:51,100 --> 00:49:53,000
physically, tough first thing in
the morning. 

901
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:54,200
It kind of sets the tone for the
day. 

902
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,000
Yeah. 
I mean even my son jumped in 

903
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,700
there and he's like Mom I just 
feel like so much happier and I 

904
00:50:00,707 --> 00:50:03,100
was like, it is supposed to 
increase dopamine. 

905
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:07,900
Yeah, you know, here's the thing
like I don't have one of those. 

906
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,800
We're in Hawaii right now and I 
don't have a bathtub here but 

907
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,500
there's a cryotherapy place that
I've gone to where you just go 

908
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:17,800
in the cold air. 
It's really, I don't know how 

909
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:20,500
cold it is gets really cold but 
it's only for three minutes and 

910
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:23,800
I'm like this, this is not doing
anything they say that it's like

911
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:28,600
burning. 10,000 calories. 
And then, like a whole list of 

912
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,600
things, I'm like, that's just 
the whole honky, you know? 

913
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,400
But when you actually submerge 
your body, like, I'll I'll sit 

914
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,900
in there for 15 minutes and I'll
shiver for like an hour and 

915
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:41,300
that's what you want. 
Like, no matter what you're 

916
00:50:41,300 --> 00:50:44,700
doing for cold therapy, you want
it to be uncomfortable like 

917
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:46,500
that. 
If it's easy for you because you

918
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:50,300
will, you know, just like you 
have metabolic adaptation you 

919
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,000
know, with a cold therapy gets 
easier for you. 

920
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,800
Then it's not, you're not 
getting all the benefits. 

921
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,000
Yeah, totally. 
Are you doing that? 

922
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,800
Shoot, correct? 
Great with tell me about on his 

923
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,300
paws cat. 
On the podcast that he was on a 

924
00:51:02,300 --> 00:51:04,300
few weeks ago but he's doing 
that hyperbaric. 

925
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,100
Oxygen chamber to do you ever do
that? 

926
00:51:06,700 --> 00:51:11,400
Um, I actually went down to 
Mexico to do some stem cells and

927
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,600
they have a oxygen chamber there
and I did that one. 

928
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,100
But I don't use his chamber. 
I don't know why you can't. 

929
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,700
It's hard because you can't have
anything in there with you. 

930
00:51:22,700 --> 00:51:27,000
So like he wakes up, he'll set 
his alarm before he actually 

931
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,300
wakes up and so he'll just go 
from you know, basically bad 

932
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:33,600
into there and sleep the last 
hour and a half in the chamber. 

933
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:35,600
Yeah. 
That makes sense. 

934
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:37,800
I mean, you can't bring a phone 
in there. 

935
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,600
You can't bring an iPad. 
You can't work in there, like 

936
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,300
sort of like twiddling my 
thumb's. 

937
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:47,300
Like I just can't but no so 
honestly, no I haven't I should.

938
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:49,500
Yeah, that would be a serious 
act in meditation. 

939
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:52,000
Be able to be totally at peace, 
for your thoughts, for an hour 

940
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,500
and a half. 
I my meditations more of a 

941
00:51:55,508 --> 00:51:59,700
movement meditation. 
Even big travel plans coming up.

942
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:01,500
He would show me the pictures 
from Africa which looks 

943
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:04,000
absolutely amazing but give me 
think my plane. 

944
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,500
Yeah, so this these two 
different travel agencies 

945
00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:11,400
reached out to me a couple years
ago before well before covid. 

946
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,000
Maybe 10 years ago. 
Hey Maria. 

947
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,500
Do you wanna like be the guest 
host on these trips? 

948
00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,700
I'm like, oh, he Craig, this 
lady asked me to be like, Like 

949
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:23,500
the guest host in Italy and I've
never traveled, like, I grew up 

950
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:25,600
without any money. 
Like we I never traveled 

951
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,100
anywhere even have like a 
passport. 

952
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:29,700
He's like City say yes, collar 
like see what happens. 

953
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:34,300
And so ever since then like 
every year we have a trip to 

954
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:35,700
Italy. 
It's like a keto trip. 

955
00:52:35,700 --> 00:52:37,200
But again like there's no 
judging. 

956
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,000
I'm not a judgy person that way 
but it's nice. 

957
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,000
Because when people have to eat 
keto for either type 1 diabetics

958
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:49,300
or their, you know, whatever 
illness are dealing with like 

959
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:52,500
we. 
I need like we made the best 

960
00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:56,100
Italian food but just 
differently, you know, like 

961
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,600
chicken parm but with my recipe 
like they would make that for us

962
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:04,300
and so we have a trip to Italy 
and Juno but I'm doing a trip to

963
00:53:04,300 --> 00:53:09,400
Bali in April Italy and June 
Croatia and September and then 

964
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,500
South Africa in November 
Craig's. 

965
00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:12,900
Going to be on that November 
trip. 

966
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:16,100
But if anybody wants to come on 
the trips, this message me and 

967
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,500
I'll hook you up and that's all 
through like the keto. 

968
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,400
No Community, like it's all 
catering towards the keto 

969
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,300
Community. 
Yeah, it is. 

970
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:28,700
I mean again you have plenty of 
opportunity to walk around Rome 

971
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,700
and you could eat whatever you 
wanted and people have done 

972
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:35,600
that. 
And I don't, I don't care. 

973
00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:41,500
Some people were very famous 
game on my last trip, you know 

974
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:45,800
who he is, but you know, he was 
eating pizza and gelato and 

975
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,100
doing all that type of stuff. 
And, you know, you do what you 

976
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:51,300
want to do. 
But if you Want a safe place to 

977
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:52,300
eat. 
Good. 

978
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:57,300
Delicious food, you know and 
it's keto we also have that 

979
00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:59,800
opportunity so I just I'm trying
to say like there's no judging 

980
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,300
and you do those every year If 
every year I mean obviously 

981
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:08,200
covid kind of stopped it for a 
little while, but the last, we 

982
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:12,000
went to Greece last September 
and it's so cool because like 

983
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,600
you never know what you're gonna
get, but we made, we always make

984
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,700
like the best of friends and we 
all still stay in contact and 

985
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:23,900
for of the people traveled and 
came and stayed in Hawaii with 

986
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:25,300
me. 
And so that was, that was really

987
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:26,300
fun. 
That's awesome. 

988
00:54:26,300 --> 00:54:28,000
Yeah, I'm gonna have to 
definitely look into that 

989
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,100
because that's like I need to I 
love traveling and I travel 

990
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:33,200
quite a bit for like, all that. 
Different conferences and 

991
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:35,400
whatnot but traveling more Brawn
to different countries 

992
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,200
especially now that we have a 
son like I want to expose him to

993
00:54:38,207 --> 00:54:40,400
different things especially as 
he gets older. 

994
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,500
So I think that'd be an awesome 
opportunity to do so it isn't 

995
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:48,600
you know get them to travel and 
see the world and be open to, I 

996
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,700
don't know different, different 
people and Lifestyles 100% Maria

997
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:55,400
apart from the traveling, 
everything else in the pipeline 

998
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,200
either books coming up. 
Um, no no books at the moment, 

999
00:55:00,500 --> 00:55:05,000
we're focused a lot on the The 
keto coaching certification, we 

1000
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,800
also added a protein sparing, 
modified fast, certification to 

1001
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:13,100
that, and next semester is April
first sign up for that. 

1002
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:17,000
So if you're interested and you 
know, maybe changing a life a 

1003
00:55:17,008 --> 00:55:19,600
bit and helping other people's 
transform their life that I 

1004
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:22,600
think we are blessed to have the
coolest job in the world. 

1005
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,100
Don't you think? 
I totally agree. 

1006
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:26,300
I think there's nothing. 
I mean for me that is nothing 

1007
00:55:26,300 --> 00:55:28,300
more fulfilling than getting 
like the emails and you get them

1008
00:55:28,300 --> 00:55:31,200
to like all all the time. 
Like you get these emails about 

1009
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,300
how something gets to spend more
time. 

1010
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:33,600
With the grandkids or something 
like that. 

1011
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,300
It's like you just got to take 
those to Heart. 

1012
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:37,800
It is. 
And it's like the coolest thing 

1013
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:41,200
to get recognized for. 
I mean, not saying I'm famous by

1014
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,800
all means, but I was on 
Christmas Day. 

1015
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,600
The boys were playing with their
toys and I was riding bike at 

1016
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,800
the end of the island where like
nobody's there. 

1017
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,100
There's no houses. 
It's very desolate. 

1018
00:55:52,300 --> 00:55:54,600
But there's a place to snorkel 
and I'm riding bike. 

1019
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:58,000
I have a hat on and my 
sunglasses and I'll send a 

1020
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,200
minivan, they stopped and 
they're like Maria, the whole 

1021
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,100
family jumps out to take 
Pictures and is like that is so 

1022
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:05,300
cool. 
They even had like a little 

1023
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:08,700
snack of one of my recipes in 
the cars like that is pretty 

1024
00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:10,000
wild. 
Yeah, that's awesome. 

1025
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:12,900
I mean, you're impacting 
people's lives and think that I 

1026
00:56:12,908 --> 00:56:15,000
think that's the main thing. 
Like so many people within the 

1027
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,500
keto space right now, low carb 
Corner more space that there's 

1028
00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:20,400
so much division around whose 
ways the right way. 

1029
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,800
But I think like, if you just 
look at it as a whole like 

1030
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,000
holistically, we're all on the 
same team were all trying to get

1031
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,700
away from all the processed 
foods and processed sugars, 

1032
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:31,200
while trying to get people 
healthier and for on, trying to 

1033
00:56:31,207 --> 00:56:34,500
do that and we do Need to be 
more unified and people people 

1034
00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:37,200
have what I've said, is resonate
with some people with, you, says

1035
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,900
resonate, with some people, 
like, we're all changing lives 

1036
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:40,300
for the better. 
So let's rally behind that 

1037
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:42,200
message. 
That's a win-win. 

1038
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:46,200
Like let's, let's go after the 
process food issue, and it's a 

1039
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,800
total win-win 100% 100%. 
Well Maria, I'm sure everybody 

1040
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,400
listen to this is familiar with 
you but frame, but it's not. 

1041
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:54,100
Where do they go to? 
Find out more about you and to 

1042
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,300
dive deeper into your world? 
Well, the easiest places just to

1043
00:56:57,300 --> 00:57:00,900
go to Quito Maria.com. 
And from there, you can find the

1044
00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:05,700
YouTube channels at the Private 
Facebook groups for support free

1045
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:08,800
support at the bottom, whatever 
you need is that keto. 

1046
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,800
Maria.com the trips are there to
awesome, awesome. 

1047
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,100
Well, I will definitely link 
that to those. 

1048
00:57:13,100 --> 00:57:14,400
Make it easy for people to find 
you. 

1049
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,800
And hopefully, I'll see you at a
conference here before too long.

1050
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,500
Craig was saying that y'all 
don't have any conferences 

1051
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:23,300
coming up here soon, but I mean,
if you just go to Bali or South 

1052
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:26,100
Africa or something, well, 
should and I know I'll see you 

1053
00:57:26,100 --> 00:57:27,800
in Vegas. 
I'm pretty sure you're in Vegas 

1054
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:30,400
with me. 
I am supposed to be speaking at 

1055
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,200
that one. 
However, it also. 

1056
00:57:32,300 --> 00:57:34,400
So conflicts with one of the 
competition's that I'm going to 

1057
00:57:34,408 --> 00:57:36,900
be doing so I don't know what's 
going to happen there. 

1058
00:57:36,900 --> 00:57:39,400
Like all my competitions gets 
because I'm competing this 

1059
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:40,900
years. 
I've got like three to five 

1060
00:57:40,900 --> 00:57:43,500
competitions gonna be doing and 
a lot of times, their dates 

1061
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:46,700
shift but I kind of have to be 
at the mercy of those. 

1062
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:49,600
If you are in Vegas, let's go 
have dinner. 

1063
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,800
Okay, 100% sound me. 
Uncle Maria Pleasures. 

1064
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:54,900
Always looking forward to 
chatting with you again, seeing 

1065
00:57:54,900 --> 00:57:57,000
you soon and there's ever 
anything I can do for you. 

1066
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:58,100
By all means. 
Let me know. 

1067
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:00,400
They're so sweet. 
Give a big hug to your wife. 

1068
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,100
Okay, I'll do it. 
Take care. 

1069
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:03,400
Bye.