1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,640 Well, hello ladies and gents, Robert Sykes, Kido, savage.com. 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,720 Today I've got special guest and good friend Dakota on the line. 3 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:07,720 He's been working me for quite some time. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:12,640 He competed in October and November of last year, 2022, and 5 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,200 he has since been going through a pretty long, extensive reverse 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,840 diet period. So I wanted to pick his brain 7 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:20,520 about what that has been like. This was his first competition, 8 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,280 first reverse diet. So anytime you do a first 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,800 anything, you have this newfound sense of perspective and I 10 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,040 wanted to kind of just pick his brain as to what that has been 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,060 like as a first time competitor. We also dive into his home gym 12 00:00:33,060 --> 00:00:34,540 setup. He's building out the pretty 13 00:00:34,540 --> 00:00:37,500 impressive home gym at his place and I want to kind of pick his 14 00:00:37,500 --> 00:00:40,340 brain as to what is what he's doing, how he's building that 15 00:00:40,340 --> 00:00:43,780 out, what equipment he would get again versus not and just kind 16 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:48,300 of get that aspect of his gym situation down there because I'm 17 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:50,220 also in the process of building out my gym. 18 00:00:50,220 --> 00:00:52,530 So I was curious 3rd into the conversation. 19 00:00:52,530 --> 00:00:53,850 Always good catching up with Dakota. 20 00:00:54,650 --> 00:00:56,330 Have no doubt they will take something from this. 21 00:00:56,330 --> 00:00:59,570 So that further ado sit back, relax into the podcast with my 22 00:00:59,570 --> 00:01:12,170 good friend Dakota and we are live Dakota. 23 00:01:12,170 --> 00:01:14,770 How are your brother? Doing well, doing well. 24 00:01:14,810 --> 00:01:16,490 How are you Sir? I'm good man. 25 00:01:16,490 --> 00:01:18,890 I'm good. How are you feeling this far? 26 00:01:18,890 --> 00:01:24,310 Post Show. Back to normal, to be honest. 27 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:27,510 Back to normal. Back to normal. 28 00:01:27,510 --> 00:01:33,750 And I know the reverse diet I think is worse than the the 29 00:01:33,790 --> 00:01:36,270 prep. To be completely honest, I 30 00:01:36,270 --> 00:01:37,870 agree. I feel like a lot of people 31 00:01:38,030 --> 00:01:41,070 like, I'll say that on a podcast or I'll say that in passing and 32 00:01:41,070 --> 00:01:43,270 people were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, but the prep is way worse. 33 00:01:43,270 --> 00:01:45,470 But honestly, from a psychological standpoint, I 34 00:01:45,470 --> 00:01:47,710 think the reverse diet is the most challenging part. 35 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:55,180 I think it is cuz you you have a hard goal when you're doing a a 36 00:01:55,180 --> 00:01:56,700 prep. When you're in the middle of 37 00:01:56,700 --> 00:01:59,460 prep you have the show, whatever it is. 38 00:01:59,580 --> 00:02:03,620 Like I'm looking at, you know the show poster for the one, the 39 00:02:03,620 --> 00:02:06,180 Washington State Natural. I got one from Aaron so I'm 40 00:02:06,180 --> 00:02:09,139 looking at it here on the wall and like that's your goal. 41 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:13,260 That's an easy you've got a hard date to set, but then the 42 00:02:13,260 --> 00:02:16,660 reverse diet after. You know, you're like, I gotta 43 00:02:16,660 --> 00:02:20,780 take six months, eight months after with no goal there. 44 00:02:20,780 --> 00:02:25,740 There is no show day. There is no, there's no hard 45 00:02:26,860 --> 00:02:28,700 deadlines for anything, you know. 46 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,060 Whereas when you got the show, you've got all the all the 47 00:02:31,060 --> 00:02:34,900 structure there. It's easy, easier, 100% man. 48 00:02:34,900 --> 00:02:37,340 And for the listeners, let me give them some perspective. 49 00:02:37,780 --> 00:02:43,100 You started working with me for the prep on April 4th of last 50 00:02:43,100 --> 00:02:46,860 year. You started at 206.8 pounds at 51 00:02:46,860 --> 00:02:52,140 2959 calories. And then you competed on. 52 00:02:52,140 --> 00:02:55,740 Let me Scroll down here. Yeah, let's see here. 53 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:59,060 First show was 10. Cuz we had the WNBF which was 54 00:02:59,180 --> 00:03:05,060 October 15th and then we had November 4th, yeah. 55 00:03:05,060 --> 00:03:09,680 Which was the NPC natural. And on that October show you got 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:13,560 down to 168.2, it looks like was the lowest. 57 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:18,400 So you went from 206 to 168, actually had a couple, you had a 58 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:28,040 166 day one, 65164.5, I think 164.5 was your lowest and then? 59 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,920 Because that was that was the 110 pound weight loss. 60 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,550 That's the lowest I've been in. Which a decade. 61 00:03:37,030 --> 00:03:39,190 So yeah, cuz when you you had lost quite a bit of weight 62 00:03:39,190 --> 00:03:40,710 before you ever even started working with me. 63 00:03:40,710 --> 00:03:42,190 So your heaviest weight was what? 64 00:03:43,190 --> 00:03:47,110 275 That's the the heaviest known weight, heaviest. 65 00:03:47,190 --> 00:03:51,070 Known weight Preface that when you get to that size, you don't. 66 00:03:51,430 --> 00:03:52,910 You don't jump on a scale very up. 67 00:03:52,950 --> 00:03:55,390 Yeah. And I mean we get you pretty 68 00:03:55,430 --> 00:03:58,030 pretty lean man. I mean you were shoulder veins 69 00:03:58,030 --> 00:04:01,430 were popping 164. I mean that is a pretty 70 00:04:01,430 --> 00:04:04,510 significant change from where you were at the heaviest. 71 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:10,030 Yeah, yeah, it was. I'm ready to. 72 00:04:10,150 --> 00:04:14,510 My shoulder veins stick around pretty decently, like anything 73 00:04:14,510 --> 00:04:21,430 below like 18% body fat, but I'm ready to have the bicep veins 74 00:04:21,430 --> 00:04:25,750 come back and the forearm veins. You're in prep right now. 75 00:04:26,930 --> 00:04:30,290 Aaron says he's not prepping. I don't know what Aaron's doing 76 00:04:30,290 --> 00:04:31,930 right, but I'm a skeptical man. Aaron's. 77 00:04:31,930 --> 00:04:37,490 Prepping he's gotta be there's he's getting way too lean post 78 00:04:37,490 --> 00:04:42,770 mini cuts so I would and I talked with him stem I regularly 79 00:04:42,770 --> 00:04:46,890 and he's not letting anything slide but I'm like man he's 80 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:49,290 gotta be going for for something. 81 00:04:49,940 --> 00:04:52,580 Well, I wanna know what he's doing so that I can step on 82 00:04:52,580 --> 00:04:56,620 stage with the man. Well, I know he, so he can't 83 00:04:56,620 --> 00:05:03,580 compete in Washington and Oregon because the show's there. 84 00:05:03,620 --> 00:05:07,700 He runs the two, he runs the pro show. 85 00:05:07,980 --> 00:05:13,420 I think there actually there might be 1 WNBF show that's also 86 00:05:13,420 --> 00:05:17,280 a pro show. But I don't think he's going to 87 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:18,440 do that, cuz him and I were talking. 88 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,000 It's like he's got to go down to like the Bay Area or up to 89 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,680 Bridge Columbia or kind of his options. 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:29,320 Well there's there's several shows, there's several WNBF 91 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,520 shows that are coming. Most of them are you know third, 92 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:38,160 third quarter, fourth quarter of the year which would be like if 93 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:42,000 he's doing some of those later show that's that's a long, long 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:43,360 prep. But I mean shoot I'm doing long 95 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:44,480 prep. I mean I know he kind of 96 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,160 generally gravitates towards the longer preps as well. 97 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,720 But yeah he's he's a big wild card right now. 98 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,320 But shoot, I want to talk about you man. 99 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:56,080 So you you you've been reverse dining since your second second 100 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:00,120 show which was in November and you are still pretty much under 101 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,440 200. You have a couple high days 102 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,360 where you're you tiptoe over 200 but for the most part you're 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:09,480 still you know sub 200 pounds, which this far post show I think 104 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,550 is a pretty big win. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely 105 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:16,830 interesting. And like the days, I can tell 106 00:06:16,830 --> 00:06:21,030 you what days those are. Those are the days either. 107 00:06:21,870 --> 00:06:23,590 There's like some Saturdays and stuff. 108 00:06:23,590 --> 00:06:28,270 I don't track, like my wife and I, you know, she's in the middle 109 00:06:28,270 --> 00:06:32,630 of a bodybuilding of her own. We've got kit #2 on the way. 110 00:06:32,630 --> 00:06:36,950 That's due here in August, but so we'll do like Saturdays, kind 111 00:06:36,950 --> 00:06:40,130 of like a. Like, I'll eat pretty close to 112 00:06:40,130 --> 00:06:44,370 what my normal macros are, but like Sundays after that or I'm a 113 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:47,490 little bit heavier, or the days that I work till 9:00 o'clock at 114 00:06:47,490 --> 00:06:49,650 night. I don't get to sit down to eat 115 00:06:49,690 --> 00:06:52,810 until 9:30 or 10:00, and then I go straight to bed. 116 00:06:52,810 --> 00:06:57,410 Like I can tell you the next morning I'm heavier, but that's 117 00:06:57,410 --> 00:06:59,450 just part of it. What's the there's? 118 00:06:59,450 --> 00:07:01,370 A little bit of variation every day. 119 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:03,240 Yeah. And that's totally normal man. 120 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Like that is nothing, nothing to worry about there. 121 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Same thing is true with me as I'm dieting down like I'll have 122 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:10,240 some, you know, high days, some low days. 123 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,160 I had a low day this morning but then you know last week I had a 124 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,200 unexpected hire day. You know, like you just can't 125 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,040 let that gnaw at you or else it gets in your head and good. 126 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:25,760 What has it been like for you post show from a reverse that 127 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,450 standpoint? Because what I have found 128 00:07:28,450 --> 00:07:32,610 amongst all my clientele and amongst my, my and for myself is 129 00:07:32,610 --> 00:07:36,850 that the first show and the first reverse diet are always 130 00:07:36,850 --> 00:07:39,010 the hardest because you just simply don't have any 131 00:07:39,010 --> 00:07:41,210 perspective as to what you can compare to. 132 00:07:41,530 --> 00:07:44,970 This is your first rodeo with the competitions and reverse 133 00:07:44,970 --> 00:07:46,890 diets. So this is like the pinnacle of 134 00:07:46,890 --> 00:07:50,730 as hard as it gets per se. So what was it like for you 135 00:07:51,090 --> 00:07:54,860 emotionally, psychologically, as you're don't have a show that 136 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:57,420 you're working for, but you're still trying to stay within some 137 00:07:57,420 --> 00:08:01,420 degree of, you know, consistency with your foods and not go 138 00:08:01,420 --> 00:08:03,420 totally off the rails eating everything Insight. 139 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:08,740 It's hard. I mean, there are days that I 140 00:08:08,740 --> 00:08:12,900 remember like fairly early on at the reverse side, that there 141 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:17,980 were days that I slept and everything insight was eaten. 142 00:08:19,340 --> 00:08:26,350 And like, it's harder. With the reverse diet, mentally, 143 00:08:26,350 --> 00:08:29,830 because I don't have that goal and I'm I can be very goal 144 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:32,789 oriented, not with everything but with a lot of things. 145 00:08:33,390 --> 00:08:39,510 So not having the the show day as the you know, like my focus 146 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:43,630 and like that's what keeps me going makes it incredibly hard. 147 00:08:43,789 --> 00:08:49,830 It it just becomes harder and like we have dieted down. 148 00:08:50,450 --> 00:08:53,570 And reverse dieted a little bit before, so I had some 149 00:08:53,570 --> 00:08:58,370 perspective. But it's completely different 150 00:08:58,370 --> 00:09:04,050 when you just do like a small cut and then a small reverse 151 00:09:04,050 --> 00:09:08,770 diet versus you're doing 6 to 8 months of a cut and then, you 152 00:09:08,770 --> 00:09:10,690 know, 6 to 8 months of a reverse diet. 153 00:09:10,690 --> 00:09:13,650 Like the time frame difference. It just wears on you. 154 00:09:13,810 --> 00:09:16,530 It wears you down. Yeah, for sure. 155 00:09:16,850 --> 00:09:20,720 What was it like? Like what was your your close 156 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:22,960 knit group of people and family and friends around you? 157 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,320 Like when it comes to reverse dining, like, because I I think 158 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,440 that's hard too, because after the show is over, they don't get 159 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,720 the concept of reverse dining. So they're just like, well, you 160 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,560 your show is over, you might as well join us for dinner, this 161 00:09:35,560 --> 00:09:38,120 celebratory meal. I mean, what else are you 162 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:39,680 working for? You might as well eat with us. 163 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,800 So, like, were they pretty supportive or were they just 164 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,760 like totally not not understanding and not on board? 165 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:53,450 My wife very understanding, very much on board, very much my 166 00:09:53,450 --> 00:09:57,490 saving grace and how she didn't murder me at the tail end of 167 00:09:57,490 --> 00:09:59,130 Prep. I have no idea. 168 00:09:59,370 --> 00:10:02,170 I'm pretty irritable. Her family was pretty 169 00:10:02,170 --> 00:10:07,250 understanding for the most part because they they, well, my wife 170 00:10:07,250 --> 00:10:10,410 actually grew up like watching bodybuilding shows in the, you 171 00:10:10,410 --> 00:10:14,530 know, the late 90s, early 2000s, like her dad watched them when 172 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:17,050 they used to be streamed on TV and stuff. 173 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:21,760 So like there's a little bit more understanding from that 174 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:26,320 side from them. But my family who has zero 175 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:32,360 nutritional background at all, does not understand like 176 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:36,440 raising, for example. Like raising my son. 177 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:41,280 Like there are certain things we generally don't, you know, a lot 178 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,800 of the flowers and things like that. 179 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,640 And like, oh, that has flower that has, shouldn't. 180 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,730 Yes, those kind of things like. To you and me and a lot of the 181 00:10:51,450 --> 00:10:55,610 the bodybuilding and health oriented communities understand 182 00:10:55,610 --> 00:11:00,930 like it's hard to understand something that you have no grasp 183 00:11:00,970 --> 00:11:02,610 on to start with. Yeah. 184 00:11:02,850 --> 00:11:06,490 So like I I I gave them as much grace as I could. 185 00:11:06,650 --> 00:11:09,370 But you know it's just like they don't under they don't 186 00:11:09,370 --> 00:11:13,410 understand so they don't but they never have the drive to 187 00:11:13,410 --> 00:11:16,010 compete in a show whereas I think. 188 00:11:16,510 --> 00:11:20,350 Like with my inlaws, I think my father-in-law might eventually 189 00:11:20,950 --> 00:11:25,590 do a master's class Nice. After going to the WNBF show 190 00:11:25,790 --> 00:11:30,630 with us, I think he kind of got a little bit of the bug. 191 00:11:31,430 --> 00:11:33,070 That's good. That's really good. 192 00:11:33,510 --> 00:11:37,070 What was it like for you on the days where you would go off the 193 00:11:37,070 --> 00:11:41,150 beaten path and eat everything? Insight, like how did you handle 194 00:11:41,150 --> 00:11:42,230 that? Mental. 195 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:44,710 Like, did you beat yourself up about it? 196 00:11:44,710 --> 00:11:48,300 Did you try and, you know, do something the next day to, you 197 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:52,420 know, overcompensate for that deviation or you just get right 198 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:53,740 back on track? Like what was that like? 199 00:11:55,740 --> 00:12:00,780 I was blessed with a very good coach, so that's super helpful. 200 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:03,900 But yeah, I still beat myself up. 201 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:11,740 I but I didn't go down the path of well, I over ate yesterday so 202 00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:14,700 I'm not gonna get it all today. I didn't go down that path. 203 00:12:14,860 --> 00:12:19,940 I don't think that that's good. So I tried to make it as 204 00:12:21,340 --> 00:12:27,820 mentally healthy as possible because I think like the beating 205 00:12:27,820 --> 00:12:31,020 yourself up, you're gonna take a little bit of a mental hit 206 00:12:31,020 --> 00:12:36,260 there, but if you go down the route of starving yourself the 207 00:12:36,260 --> 00:12:39,860 next day because you overeat, it creates. 208 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:47,280 A disordered eating tendency. And that's what I wish avidly 209 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,240 trying to avoid. Yeah, I didn't. 210 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,080 I didn't want to do that. I already, I've already 211 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:58,640 experienced eating disorders. So I don't want to go back down 212 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,040 that route. No, I totally agree, man. 213 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:04,640 I think when you start going down the route of trying to make 214 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,520 up for past events, that becomes a very slippery slope. 215 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:12,760 That's honestly why I'm not really a fan of averaging out 216 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,520 caloric intake goals over the running span of a week. 217 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,280 You know, cuz like you'll have a high day and then you've got to 218 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:23,000 have a low day to, you know, correspond with that and it just 219 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,120 winds up being a negative more often than not. 220 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,400 So I think that that, like I said, it just becomes a slippery 221 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,800 slope. So I'm glad you didn't go that 222 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,600 route. Yeah. 223 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:39,720 And I mean there's. It's going to take a toll on you 224 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,880 no matter what. So you just kind of you're 225 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,360 trying to minimize the damage. At least I was. 226 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,800 You know there there are days that you know things are harder. 227 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,920 It's. I know at the very end, like you 228 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,240 love the Stairmaster. I hate the Stairmaster. 229 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:04,440 I I love that time every morning that I had to go do that. 230 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:09,790 And, you know, but it's like there were some days that it was 231 00:14:09,790 --> 00:14:14,670 just a struggle And I'm like, oh, if I eat less than, do I 232 00:14:14,670 --> 00:14:17,190 have to be the Stairmaster? It's like, no, it's gonna mess 233 00:14:17,190 --> 00:14:19,390 it up. Yeah. 234 00:14:19,390 --> 00:14:22,270 So no, for sure, man. There's everyone's gonna have a 235 00:14:22,270 --> 00:14:25,310 different definition for what is sustainable for them, what's in 236 00:14:25,310 --> 00:14:28,310 trouble for them, what is reasonable, what is rational, 237 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:32,190 and what is just totally not worth it and not worthwhile. 238 00:14:32,510 --> 00:14:38,050 And a prep like anybody can recomposition their body and 239 00:14:38,050 --> 00:14:41,010 reach a new level of conditioning for them. 240 00:14:41,530 --> 00:14:44,410 And they can do it in a way that is sustainable and enjoyable for 241 00:14:44,410 --> 00:14:47,090 them. They just to figure out what the 242 00:14:47,090 --> 00:14:50,330 levers they have to pull are and then pull them accordingly. 243 00:14:51,090 --> 00:14:52,130 Yeah. And for me, like, I freaking 244 00:14:52,130 --> 00:14:53,850 love the Stairmaster Man. I think it's very easy to 245 00:14:53,850 --> 00:14:55,930 standardize. It just works well for me. 246 00:14:55,930 --> 00:14:59,210 My body responds well to it and it responds. 247 00:14:59,210 --> 00:15:01,610 Most people's bodies respond pretty well to it. 248 00:15:01,610 --> 00:15:04,920 I feel like it's a safer bet than trying to do like hill 249 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:06,920 sprints or something like that, which is going to be a lot more 250 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,640 volatile based off of you know, what your energy levels are like 251 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,120 for the day or what your recovery is like, etcetera, 252 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,320 etcetera. So yeah, it's just a matter of 253 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:20,840 figuring out what you can adhere to, and then ideally some would 254 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:25,000 enjoy as well. Yeah, it's like I found I've 255 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,880 never used like a row machine. The gym I was going to had a 256 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:33,080 concept too, and so I found that for me. 257 00:15:34,190 --> 00:15:41,270 Sustainability wise, I could do 5000 meter rows much easier than 258 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:43,630 and it would take you know 30 minutes. 259 00:15:43,750 --> 00:15:48,070 But it's I'm still hitting the distance and I found that easier 260 00:15:48,070 --> 00:15:50,910 than the 15 minutes on the Stairmaster. 261 00:15:51,270 --> 00:15:56,510 Yeah, totally man, Totally. Speaking of gyms, Speaking of 262 00:15:56,590 --> 00:16:01,070 what you've got access to in the gyms, talk to me about your gym 263 00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:05,360 setup cuz you were going a similar route to I and that we 264 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,040 have had it with the corporate gym scene. 265 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:10,240 We we're not really doing that and we've pretty much doubled 266 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,600 down on the home gym setup. And when I say home gym setup, 267 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,720 I'm not talking about like you know, halfway squat rack in 268 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,840 somebody's garage that's sitting next to their Christmas 269 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,760 ornaments. Like, this is like a legit home 270 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:23,160 gym set that you're building out here. 271 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:27,040 It's pretty much done. I'm going to actually add 272 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:29,680 another squat rack at some point here soon. 273 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:32,120 I got to get two more uprights for it, but. 274 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:35,580 Yeah, building a home gym is great. 275 00:16:35,740 --> 00:16:41,180 I was commuting, commuting an hour to the gym every day. 276 00:16:42,340 --> 00:16:46,020 So then you throw the workout and that's two hours of my day 277 00:16:46,020 --> 00:16:49,180 every single day. That was time away for my 278 00:16:49,220 --> 00:16:54,220 family, time away from work and things that generated income for 279 00:16:54,220 --> 00:16:57,140 our businesses. So it's like it just didn't make 280 00:16:57,140 --> 00:17:02,370 sense so. We decided to start building a 281 00:17:02,370 --> 00:17:07,290 gym and we have an 800 square foot space that works perfectly 282 00:17:07,290 --> 00:17:09,650 for it. It's our old off the space but 283 00:17:10,250 --> 00:17:14,849 you know we did redid it and I mean I got an 8 post Rep rack 284 00:17:14,849 --> 00:17:19,490 with the area's cable. I've got one to 100 pound 285 00:17:19,490 --> 00:17:21,530 dumbbells. I got a set of adjustable 286 00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:26,609 dumbbells too. I think I'm up to like 9 bars 287 00:17:26,730 --> 00:17:28,610 now. Something like that. 288 00:17:29,980 --> 00:17:31,660 For plates and all kinds of stuff. 289 00:17:31,740 --> 00:17:35,260 So I mean the only piece of cardio equipment I have right 290 00:17:35,260 --> 00:17:38,700 now is we have a one of those old Schwinn bikes. 291 00:17:38,740 --> 00:17:40,900 Yeah, yeah, that was given to us. 292 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:46,420 But eventually I want to get a Concept 2 rower and then I want 293 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:51,980 a treadmill. That's one of the like the 294 00:17:51,980 --> 00:17:55,980 assault runners, the non powered ones, the self powered ones. 295 00:17:56,340 --> 00:17:59,680 Yeah, those are fun. They're spending and I'm just 296 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:03,040 like no, they're surprisingly expensive. 297 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,280 Like I was, I looked them up cuz I wanted one too. 298 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,880 Like man, this is probably like under a grand easy and they're 299 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:10,760 like 4 grand for the entry level ones. 300 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,080 Yeah, the ones I was looking at for like 35 to 37. 301 00:18:16,120 --> 00:18:20,120 So yeah, it's like, I can think of a lot of different things I 302 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:22,080 would rather spend almost 4 grand on. 303 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:25,040 Yeah, no, for sure. Like a Stairmaster. 304 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,560 You're definitely gonna get one of those too, right? 305 00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:30,570 I don't have the ceiling right for that. 306 00:18:30,570 --> 00:18:32,410 I'm limited. I have 8 foot ceilings. 307 00:18:32,410 --> 00:18:36,170 I'm not blessed with your compound gym with like 15 foot 308 00:18:36,170 --> 00:18:38,410 ceilings, that's true. Didn't think about the 309 00:18:38,730 --> 00:18:43,970 situation. Yeah, the I haven't found one 310 00:18:43,970 --> 00:18:46,210 yet. That's a low enough profile, but 311 00:18:46,210 --> 00:18:53,370 it's like I have room for it. It's just I don't know what one 312 00:18:53,370 --> 00:18:56,930 I'm gonna end up with because of the way this there's. 313 00:18:57,740 --> 00:19:03,380 Cycle back, yeah. They required from 12 to 18 314 00:19:03,380 --> 00:19:09,500 inches of additional height to clear the step trap as it cycles 315 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:12,580 under. So it's just that's kind of 316 00:19:12,620 --> 00:19:15,340 hard, makes it difficult. I don't feel like having my head 317 00:19:15,340 --> 00:19:17,620 in the ceiling. You could just have like a 318 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:19,060 little cutaway just for your head. 319 00:19:19,060 --> 00:19:20,940 Like a little one of those. Like I got aquariums, you know, 320 00:19:20,940 --> 00:19:22,960 I got a little bubble cut away. You can just. 321 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Cut that out. I might need to do that. 322 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,920 That might work perfect. But then if I ever want to move 323 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:29,160 it, then I got to set another hole. 324 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:30,800 Yeah, there you go. There you go. 325 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaking of aquariums, I'm totally going to deviate from 326 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,280 the the, the gym talk right now. Talk about that aquarium you Did 327 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:40,120 you go to that aquarium when you were here or no? 328 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:46,720 The the restaurant? No the the aquarium in 329 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:48,840 Springfield, MO. Cuz you came and visited with 330 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,960 me, I don't know, a couple months ago now, you did you stop 331 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:53,760 by that aquarium when you were driving through or no? 332 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,520 No, we did not. OK, must been somebody else I 333 00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,840 was talking to. But there's like, this massive 334 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,370 aquarium in Springfield, MO. Like, that's part of a bass pro 335 00:20:04,372 --> 00:20:07,680 shops, but they had like a, like multiple museums there. 336 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,440 They had a rifle museum, all kinds of historical rifles 337 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,680 there, an archery museum, this gigantic aquarium with all 338 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,560 different kinds of exotic species in there. 339 00:20:18,450 --> 00:20:21,250 That's the one you guys just went for Rivals birthday, right? 340 00:20:21,290 --> 00:20:24,690 Yeah, yeah, very cool. So next time you're in the area, 341 00:20:24,690 --> 00:20:26,010 man, you definitely gotta check that out. 342 00:20:26,930 --> 00:20:28,570 Yeah. No, yeah. 343 00:20:28,570 --> 00:20:31,890 We when we went down there, so we flew into Memphis. 344 00:20:32,010 --> 00:20:33,610 That was a mistake. Yeah. 345 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:37,410 And then we spent a couple days in Memphis and then we went to 346 00:20:37,410 --> 00:20:39,610 Nashville. I had some work training out 347 00:20:39,610 --> 00:20:44,090 there, so I had the we were out there at one of our manufacturer 348 00:20:44,130 --> 00:20:49,070 plants out there. And then we came out to you guys 349 00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:52,630 cuz it was an 8 hour drive and I'm like you know what, it's a 350 00:20:52,670 --> 00:20:55,990 like a 30 hour drive if I were to drive from my place here in 351 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:58,150 Washington. So let's just make a couple 352 00:20:58,150 --> 00:21:02,470 hours hung out with you guys for a couple of days and then we 353 00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:06,310 ended up going back to Memphis before we blew back home. 354 00:21:06,830 --> 00:21:08,190 Take care man. It's a good time. 355 00:21:08,390 --> 00:21:12,190 Is a good time for sure. Well, I'm gonna come check out 356 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:14,230 your operation in person before 2. 357 00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:15,870 For long, I'll be able to use your home gym. 358 00:21:16,290 --> 00:21:18,170 When I'm in Washington for those competitions. 359 00:21:18,610 --> 00:21:20,290 At least that's the point. Yeah, I think I might need some 360 00:21:20,290 --> 00:21:21,450 more plates for. You though? 361 00:21:22,210 --> 00:21:24,410 Well, how many people are gonna be using your gym at any one 362 00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:25,850 point? You said you got like 8 bars. 363 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:28,970 That's a ton of bars. Yeah, I've got. 364 00:21:30,330 --> 00:21:35,330 So I joined the home gym Discord server, which watches out for 365 00:21:35,330 --> 00:21:40,810 like rogues deals, and they have like one deal that pops up from 366 00:21:40,810 --> 00:21:43,370 every now and then, but it sells out generally in about 20 367 00:21:43,370 --> 00:21:45,690 minutes. But it's like $100 for a random 368 00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:47,490 bar. You don't know what it's gonna 369 00:21:47,490 --> 00:21:49,370 be. It's $100 if they ship it to 370 00:21:49,370 --> 00:21:52,570 your door. So I have a couple of those, 371 00:21:53,290 --> 00:21:59,010 I've got Ohio bars, I've got deadlift bars, all kind of stuff 372 00:21:59,010 --> 00:22:00,690 like that. My collection just keeps 373 00:22:00,690 --> 00:22:03,250 growing. So one of my clients just 374 00:22:03,250 --> 00:22:06,250 completed Joe. He just sent me a rogue deadlift 375 00:22:06,250 --> 00:22:08,440 bar. And because I've never, I've 376 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,560 used deadlift bars before, but I've never owned the deadlift 377 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,680 bar and the rogue deadlifts are not legit, man. 378 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,160 Like, I've I've trained the gyms that have deadlift bars, but 379 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,720 they tend to jar. They just jar me. 380 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,480 If I'm doing multiple reps, like if I'm doing a single, it's 381 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,320 totally fine. But if I'm doing multiple reps, 382 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,200 most deadlift bars like, I don't like the way the weight 383 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,560 disperses, you know, upon multiple reps. 384 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,720 It just jars the hell out of me. But but this new rogue deadlift 385 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,250 bar? I haven't had that issue at all. 386 00:22:37,290 --> 00:22:39,730 It's super smooth. Yeah. 387 00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:45,530 I've been looking at the Texas power in the bars, but I just 388 00:22:45,730 --> 00:22:51,450 haven't pulled the trigger yet. But I need more bar storage 389 00:22:51,490 --> 00:22:53,530 before I. Continue on. 390 00:22:53,890 --> 00:22:58,050 Well your your home setup man is I think it's it's more complete 391 00:22:58,050 --> 00:22:59,930 than mine. Like you've got more equipment 392 00:22:59,930 --> 00:23:05,770 than I do. I believe you have that. 393 00:23:06,210 --> 00:23:08,530 You got every. You have the legend, though, so 394 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:11,330 you got you got the well beat there. 395 00:23:12,930 --> 00:23:15,290 Yeah, but I don't know, yeah, pretty good setup man. 396 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:20,490 How do you like the the Rep branded, the Rep fitness brand 397 00:23:20,810 --> 00:23:21,890 from like an equipment standpoint? 398 00:23:21,890 --> 00:23:25,330 Is that pretty solid? Yeah, I'm I'm happy with it. 399 00:23:25,330 --> 00:23:29,610 Overall it is a metric rack. So it's instead of being three 400 00:23:29,610 --> 00:23:34,490 by three, it's like 2.95 or something by 2.95. 401 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:42,410 So like I have Go Strong Roller Jacobs for example. 402 00:23:43,610 --> 00:23:49,290 They fit perfect on rogue racks, but they're a little sloppy on 403 00:23:49,410 --> 00:23:52,930 the Rep rack. So I've got to get some spazers 404 00:23:52,930 --> 00:23:56,770 made. But overall I'm super happy with 405 00:23:56,770 --> 00:23:59,930 it. So it was a little bit of a pain 406 00:23:59,930 --> 00:24:05,780 because so Full disclosure, if you spend more than $10,000 for 407 00:24:05,780 --> 00:24:10,980 the Rep Fitness in one purchase, you are considered a commercial 408 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:14,060 account. So they give you a discount and 409 00:24:14,060 --> 00:24:19,580 it varies based off of how much you spend, but you need to be 410 00:24:19,580 --> 00:24:22,780 way more specific when you're with building it through the 411 00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:25,260 commercial side. Then if I were to just go on 412 00:24:25,260 --> 00:24:27,980 their website in order. So that was a little hard 413 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:30,580 because we had some missing pieces and things like that that 414 00:24:30,580 --> 00:24:33,940 weren't put in our order that I didn't catch. 415 00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:37,140 So it took me a couple extra weeks to get that all sorted 416 00:24:37,140 --> 00:24:39,380 out. But overall I would do it again 417 00:24:39,580 --> 00:24:43,060 a heartbeat and you if I had the hype, I would have gone with 418 00:24:43,060 --> 00:24:43,900 Rogue. So. 419 00:24:44,180 --> 00:24:47,180 Yeah, I like my rogue stuff. I haven't had any issues thus 420 00:24:47,180 --> 00:24:50,340 far. And you, your rogue rack is 421 00:24:50,340 --> 00:24:52,260 super nice. Yeah, like my rack. 422 00:24:52,780 --> 00:24:56,300 I I got that one specifically because I want to add the belt 423 00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:59,060 squad attachment to it because they've got that drop in Rhino, 424 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:01,500 you know, the Rhino, yeah. Belt squad. 425 00:25:01,860 --> 00:25:04,620 Which Aaron's got as well, and he was singing its praises. 426 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:08,900 But you got a belt squat attachment that is like just the 427 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:11,820 the pivot on the the column, right? 428 00:25:11,820 --> 00:25:15,220 It's just like a a pivot on the one of the rack, one of the rack 429 00:25:15,220 --> 00:25:17,940 arms of the squat rack. And you can just load that with 430 00:25:17,940 --> 00:25:22,380 plates right? No, I have one that actually 431 00:25:22,380 --> 00:25:28,180 attaches to the cable machine. So I have £300 stacks of in the 432 00:25:28,180 --> 00:25:33,810 back of my rack but it and I have the lat pull down 433 00:25:33,810 --> 00:25:38,850 attachment with it. So I have a cable that goes up 434 00:25:38,850 --> 00:25:42,450 and then I have a base plate that goes drops in like the 435 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:45,690 Rhino but it's just a lot smaller that I can do the belt 436 00:25:45,690 --> 00:25:46,650 squat that way. Gotcha. 437 00:25:47,450 --> 00:25:51,690 So it uses a lat pull down basically and just pins it at 438 00:25:51,690 --> 00:25:57,410 the bottom for a belt squat. It's it's nice, it's not as nice 439 00:25:57,410 --> 00:25:59,810 as the Rhino. I had the privilege of using 440 00:25:59,810 --> 00:26:02,980 Aaron's when I was down there for opposing class. 441 00:26:03,140 --> 00:26:09,940 Yeah, it's way nicer than this, but it's also, you know, this is 442 00:26:09,940 --> 00:26:14,060 like a 200 dollar $300.00 setup versus I don't even know what 443 00:26:14,060 --> 00:26:17,900 the Rhino is, I. Think it's like 2500 or 444 00:26:17,900 --> 00:26:19,900 something like that. Yeah. 445 00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:22,500 I mean, your cost difference is huge. 446 00:26:23,180 --> 00:26:25,820 But I have never used the Rhino, so I'm glad to hear that you. 447 00:26:26,580 --> 00:26:29,020 I also use it and are a fan of it because it's always kind of. 448 00:26:29,060 --> 00:26:31,860 I like to use the equipment before I get it, but I feel like 449 00:26:31,980 --> 00:26:34,260 it's been pretty well tested from the people that I would 450 00:26:34,260 --> 00:26:36,620 consider reputable people. When it comes to knowing what 451 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:39,900 the equipment feels like, it should feel like it's way 452 00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:41,540 smoother than anything else I've used. 453 00:26:41,540 --> 00:26:44,940 As far as belt spots, I've only used a handful of them, but 454 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:48,580 honestly, the Rogue One is probably the nicest. 455 00:26:48,660 --> 00:26:54,960 And I did consider the they have the Rhino with the deadlift 456 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,680 platform modification, where it's like the Rhino can also 457 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,840 double the deadlift platform. I've seen people build that out, 458 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,640 but it's just the space thing at that point. 459 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,840 Like that's a huge footprint. So I may do that in the future, 460 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,950 but you know. It's always good options, man, 461 00:27:15,990 --> 00:27:18,310 Always good having options. Home gyms are never done. 462 00:27:18,470 --> 00:27:21,790 Yeah, that is the truth man. Because I've honestly, I have 463 00:27:21,790 --> 00:27:25,990 not added that much equipment to mine over the past, I don't 464 00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:29,830 know, probably 4 years because we built our home gym out 465 00:27:29,830 --> 00:27:34,750 originally at our first compound in Bryan and all we had, that's 466 00:27:34,750 --> 00:27:39,230 when we got that legend fitness like jungle gym thing and then 467 00:27:39,230 --> 00:27:41,750 we had a squat rack and then since then. 468 00:27:42,030 --> 00:27:44,510 And we had our dumbbells. Since then, I've gotten an 469 00:27:44,510 --> 00:27:47,390 additional squat rack, but that's pretty much it. 470 00:27:47,390 --> 00:27:53,070 Like, I've done pretty much all of my training for the past four 471 00:27:53,070 --> 00:27:58,270 years on free weights and some simple cables, and I don't feel 472 00:27:58,270 --> 00:28:00,750 like I've got any glittering holes in my workout at all. 473 00:28:01,950 --> 00:28:07,980 I think the barbell the was the most, the most efficient piece 474 00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:12,260 of equipment you can use. If you have like limited space. 475 00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:15,700 Yeah, totally a barbell and a couple of plates and you can 476 00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:18,300 knock out every single muscle group you need to. 477 00:28:18,820 --> 00:28:21,940 It's not gonna be perfect, but it's something. 478 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:25,340 Yeah, 100%. Well, all these crazy fancy 479 00:28:25,340 --> 00:28:29,540 gyms, they have like all the different types of equipment in 480 00:28:29,540 --> 00:28:31,490 the world. And a lot of people in the 481 00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:35,170 bodybuilding space are trying to train very specific muscle 482 00:28:35,170 --> 00:28:38,050 groups and isolate everything and target something through a 483 00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:42,410 specific Rep range. And it's like they kind of like 484 00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:46,010 turn their nose up to just, you know, simple dumbbells and free 485 00:28:46,010 --> 00:28:48,930 weights. And I've done literally, like I 486 00:28:48,930 --> 00:28:50,770 said, nothing but those for the past four years. 487 00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:53,130 And I don't feel like my physique has got. 488 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:56,780 Any glaring weak points as a result of not having all the 489 00:28:56,780 --> 00:28:58,620 fancy equipment? Like, I feel like everything 490 00:28:58,620 --> 00:29:02,300 that I've wanted to bring up has been brought up using just the 491 00:29:02,300 --> 00:29:05,380 basics with training. I think that is that's important 492 00:29:05,380 --> 00:29:08,020 cuz I feel like a lot of people get so same as nutrition, they 493 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:10,060 get so hung up and all the minutia out there. 494 00:29:10,340 --> 00:29:12,780 There's just so many different ways of doing things and there's 495 00:29:12,780 --> 00:29:15,420 so much content now that people come into the nutrition space 496 00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:16,980 and like, Oh my gosh, do I need to? 497 00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:20,750 Count net carbs, total carbs. Or do I need to worry about seed 498 00:29:20,750 --> 00:29:23,350 oils or do I need to do keto or do I need the carb cycle? 499 00:29:23,670 --> 00:29:25,110 The same thing happens with training. 500 00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:27,990 They're like do I need to do drop set super sets? 501 00:29:27,990 --> 00:29:31,270 Do I need to do a deload week? Do I need to have a certain body 502 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:32,830 parts split or trained full body? 503 00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:36,070 It's like just get in there and freaking transist to A/C T 504 00:29:36,070 --> 00:29:40,310 Fletcher song when I was working out today and he was like the 505 00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:42,750 hell with range of motion. Just get your body in motion, 506 00:29:43,030 --> 00:29:44,550 you know? And I feel like that's that's 507 00:29:44,550 --> 00:29:49,470 half the battle right there. Yeah, I think well. 508 00:29:49,550 --> 00:29:53,430 And I think exercise, diet and everything blows down to 509 00:29:53,470 --> 00:29:56,470 sustainability. What is sustainable for you? 510 00:29:56,470 --> 00:30:00,070 There are certain people. I mean, you can get stupid lean, 511 00:30:00,910 --> 00:30:03,230 you know, if it fits your macros. 512 00:30:04,030 --> 00:30:08,430 Taking a vegan approach, A keto approach, a chronicle approach. 513 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:15,550 You can do it in any any nutritional manner you want. 514 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,040 You can also, you know, get stronger using if you're doing a 515 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080 full body split, push, pull, legs, you're doing your eight 516 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,240 day rotation, you know you. There are so many different ways 517 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,400 to do it. It's just finding what works for 518 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:37,640 you and sustainability in your lifestyle. 100%, ma'am, 100%, 519 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,160 Well, what, what's in the pipeline for you from a 520 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,480 competitive standpoint like you and I are still working together 521 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,150 with your reverse? And I mean kind of going into 522 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:46,910 the building phase now your calendars are getting high 523 00:30:46,910 --> 00:30:49,990 enough where you're starting to tip into a surplus that allows 524 00:30:49,990 --> 00:30:53,030 you to build more muscle. But what do you want to do from 525 00:30:53,030 --> 00:30:54,990 a competitive standpoint? What do you, what do you foresee 526 00:30:54,990 --> 00:31:00,910 the future looking like? So you're competing this year 527 00:31:00,910 --> 00:31:03,470 and then you generally take two years off. 528 00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:09,590 So what's that 20/5/2025 that you're going to be competing 529 00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:12,510 next again? May that would be pretty early 530 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:15,830 for me. Certainly not any earlier than 531 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:18,630 that, but maybe an additional year 26. 532 00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:19,830 Why you trying to step on stage with me? 533 00:31:20,990 --> 00:31:24,790 Yeah, I'm trying to get big enough to where hopefully I can 534 00:31:25,950 --> 00:31:29,110 do something. I mean, ideally my goals next 535 00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:33,470 time around is when the novice class, yeah, then go in and 536 00:31:33,470 --> 00:31:38,550 compete and be open. When it open class, then win it 537 00:31:38,550 --> 00:31:42,120 overall and maybe a pro card depending on, you know whether 538 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,880 it's like OK if I win my class, so like the Washington State 539 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,080 Natural Pro AM, that's a super pro qualifier for the WNBF. 540 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,040 It's like the winner of the class gets a pro card. 541 00:31:53,960 --> 00:32:00,360 So that would be great. But you know, I don't know, I 542 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,240 just wanna take some time, get bigger. 543 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,080 There are certain body parts that I have that are lacking. 544 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,240 My lacks are definitely that one for me. 545 00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:13,790 So I'm going to be working on those pretty heavy for the next 546 00:32:13,790 --> 00:32:19,430 couple years and then definitely want to bring up like my 547 00:32:19,430 --> 00:32:21,230 hamstrings and glutes and everything. 548 00:32:22,390 --> 00:32:24,310 You felt like they didn't come in tighten up. 549 00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:31,510 So and then we'll, I mean we'll see like 2526 is kind of the 550 00:32:31,510 --> 00:32:33,670 time frame. I'm looking at competing next. 551 00:32:34,270 --> 00:32:37,590 Give my wife and my family just enough of a break to where they 552 00:32:37,590 --> 00:32:41,620 forget about how miserable I could be at the very end of 553 00:32:41,620 --> 00:32:43,540 prep. To where? 554 00:32:43,780 --> 00:32:46,540 Hopefully this time around, this next time around, I'm a lot 555 00:32:46,540 --> 00:32:50,020 better to where she's not even realizing I'm in prep. 556 00:32:51,260 --> 00:32:52,740 That will most certainly happen, man. 557 00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:55,740 Like I like I said, the first show, the first prep seasons of 558 00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:58,260 the hardest, because you just don't have that perspectives the 559 00:32:58,260 --> 00:33:01,420 next time you go into a cut. Like, you'll be so much more 560 00:33:01,420 --> 00:33:05,380 aware of when you're being an ass to your family and you'll 561 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:07,860 catch yourself beforehand, ideally. 562 00:33:08,330 --> 00:33:10,730 And then not be an ass because that's what I'm trying to do 563 00:33:10,730 --> 00:33:14,090 with my prep now. Like I'll like, I'm I'm nine 564 00:33:14,090 --> 00:33:18,370 weeks in as of today, this this is the my nine week, nine week 565 00:33:18,370 --> 00:33:20,130 mark. And I don't feel, granted, my 566 00:33:20,130 --> 00:33:24,810 counters aren't that low yet but I don't feel like I've been rude 567 00:33:24,810 --> 00:33:25,970 at all. I don't feel like I've been 568 00:33:25,970 --> 00:33:30,530 short at all and it gets easier and easier the more preps you 569 00:33:30,530 --> 00:33:31,850 do. So, like, I feel like the fact 570 00:33:31,850 --> 00:33:33,330 they're even thinking about that now. 571 00:33:34,070 --> 00:33:36,430 It just ensures that you're in the right head space, and when 572 00:33:36,430 --> 00:33:38,390 that time comes, you'll just be that much better for it. 573 00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:44,750 Now, if you would have caught me, like, right after the first 574 00:33:44,750 --> 00:33:50,390 show when I had just gotten completely mopped by everybody 575 00:33:50,390 --> 00:33:57,930 on stage, you know, and you'd caught me before one of the gals 576 00:33:57,970 --> 00:34:01,210 backstage. Her name's Effie, but she 577 00:34:01,210 --> 00:34:02,730 actually works for Aaron quite a bit. 578 00:34:02,730 --> 00:34:05,770 But before her and I talked about, you know, it's the first 579 00:34:05,770 --> 00:34:07,290 show. Like, I don't remember exactly 580 00:34:07,290 --> 00:34:11,250 what she said, but it like completely turned around in my 581 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:15,290 headspace. And, you know, she's just one of 582 00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:17,730 the sweetest, most genuine people you'll ever meet. 583 00:34:17,730 --> 00:34:22,730 So she, you know, if you would have caught me before her and I 584 00:34:22,730 --> 00:34:26,489 chatted, I probably would have told you I'm never doing this 585 00:34:26,489 --> 00:34:32,150 again. Yeah, now you know, post that 586 00:34:32,150 --> 00:34:36,790 show, post the NPC show and a couple, you know, several months 587 00:34:36,790 --> 00:34:41,150 into a reverse diet. Yeah, I'm gonna do it again. 588 00:34:41,830 --> 00:34:43,710 What do you think? I'm definitely gonna do things 589 00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:45,710 differently. Like what did she say? 590 00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:48,469 What triggered? Like what do you think the the 591 00:34:48,469 --> 00:34:50,310 catalyst for that tipping point was? 592 00:34:51,909 --> 00:34:57,810 I think it was along the lines of it's your first show, you're 593 00:34:57,810 --> 00:35:03,490 learning and you know your goal next time around needs to be to 594 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:10,810 beat yourself, not you know. You win a pro card on your first 595 00:35:10,810 --> 00:35:17,050 show like that's a pipe dream, you know, but you know just 596 00:35:17,810 --> 00:35:20,890 doing better than you were yesterday. 597 00:35:20,930 --> 00:35:24,700 And I think that's a very much a mentality that like since then 598 00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:29,220 I've just tried to adopt into everything, cuz I think I kind 599 00:35:29,220 --> 00:35:33,540 of swept that all under the rug. I'd be a better father, be a 600 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:39,220 better, you know, business owner, be a better son, husband, 601 00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:41,820 whatever. In every aspect of your life, be 602 00:35:41,820 --> 00:35:44,780 better today than I was yesterday. 603 00:35:45,180 --> 00:35:47,860 Yeah, and people say those things and they make great 604 00:35:47,860 --> 00:35:51,780 quotes, and it sounds so cliche that people just kind of brush 605 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:53,930 over it. But it's so important, man. 606 00:35:53,930 --> 00:35:58,530 Like, if you just simply fixate on that and truly try to be 607 00:35:58,530 --> 00:36:03,730 better than you were previously, that is a monumental leap of 608 00:36:03,730 --> 00:36:05,450 progress. You know, like if every single 609 00:36:05,450 --> 00:36:09,010 time you step on stage you look better than you did previously, 610 00:36:09,010 --> 00:36:12,090 and not just simply look better, but also have a better outlook, 611 00:36:12,090 --> 00:36:14,810 a better mentality, better relationships throughout the 612 00:36:14,810 --> 00:36:20,490 entirety of the prep like that. That has a if that happens. 613 00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:23,090 Then everything that led up to that and everything that's 614 00:36:23,090 --> 00:36:25,890 happened as a result of that has also had a compounding 615 00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:28,090 improvement effect on your overall life and everything 616 00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:32,210 interacting in your life. So it's a huge win on all 617 00:36:32,210 --> 00:36:37,650 fronts. Yeah, I mean what is it like if 618 00:36:37,650 --> 00:36:41,050 you make a 1% improvement every day you're it's I think it's 619 00:36:41,050 --> 00:36:44,290 like 35 days or something that you've made 100% improvement. 620 00:36:46,250 --> 00:36:49,530 Yeah, I can't remember the exact math, but it it's some along 621 00:36:49,690 --> 00:36:54,470 those lines. And it's it's a I don't know, 622 00:36:54,470 --> 00:36:58,750 it's a beautiful thing. Like, I look at the mentality I 623 00:36:58,750 --> 00:37:04,110 have now when I'm training even, and I like enjoy the workouts, 624 00:37:04,110 --> 00:37:07,430 like I push myself and I'm I'm hitting new Pr's. 625 00:37:07,950 --> 00:37:10,630 But I legitimately look forward to working out. 626 00:37:10,630 --> 00:37:14,270 I have fun with it, whereas I remember at points in my, you 627 00:37:14,270 --> 00:37:17,650 know, first competition prep. I hated going to the gym. 628 00:37:17,650 --> 00:37:20,250 I hated working out. I hated the way it made me feel. 629 00:37:20,450 --> 00:37:23,770 I hated feeling depleted and trying to, you know, put this 630 00:37:24,210 --> 00:37:27,370 this weight on my back and go down and come back up with it X 631 00:37:27,370 --> 00:37:29,330 number of times. Like I put all this pressure on 632 00:37:29,330 --> 00:37:32,850 myself, which I mean, no telling what my cortisol levels were 633 00:37:32,850 --> 00:37:35,810 with that first prep, but like, it just it sucks the fun of them 634 00:37:35,810 --> 00:37:37,850 at the end of the day. Bodybuilding. 635 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,720 Is like a sport. Like people go and they play 636 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:43,520 tennis because they like tennis. People go and water ski because 637 00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,760 they like water skiing. People go to bodybuilding 638 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,760 ideally because they like bodybuilding. 639 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,200 If you're absolutely miserable through it all, then what's the 640 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:54,120 freaking point? Yeah, if you're not, if you're 641 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,280 not finding some sort of enjoyment, why are you 642 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,800 continuing just making yourself miserable? 643 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,720 Yeah, totally, man. Totally. 644 00:38:03,550 --> 00:38:05,870 Well, I'm stoked for you, bro. I'm stoked for the the future 645 00:38:05,870 --> 00:38:08,550 competitions. I would love to step on stage 646 00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:10,550 with you. Although I will warn you, man, 647 00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:13,510 like, if you're up on stage of me, like, I ain't gonna be going 648 00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:18,150 easy on you. Yeah, I know. 649 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:21,590 That's why I gotta figure some things out first, you know. 650 00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:23,430 Gotta get, gotta get bigger than you. 651 00:38:24,310 --> 00:38:27,590 You probably wouldn't. I mean, you've got more size 652 00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:29,790 than me for sure. So like you would most certainly 653 00:38:29,790 --> 00:38:31,670 outsize me. And I'm never gonna be the 654 00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:33,470 biggest count stage. Like I'll never hope to be the 655 00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:36,270 biggest count stage. I just wanna get, like I've 656 00:38:36,270 --> 00:38:41,590 said, the latest man alive that is, yeah, and that's, I think, 657 00:38:41,830 --> 00:38:46,110 okay. So we went to an NPC, an 658 00:38:46,230 --> 00:38:51,670 untested NPC show here in Vancouver April 1st. 659 00:38:52,390 --> 00:38:58,710 But I was looking at the level of competitors, comparing the 660 00:38:58,750 --> 00:39:05,150 WNBF, the NPC, untested, and the tested side the natural one. 661 00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:08,230 Man. The WNBF competitors are just a 662 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:11,510 different level. You look at them like, yeah, 663 00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:16,110 they're not nearly as big. Yeah, that's to be expected with 664 00:39:16,110 --> 00:39:19,750 a lot of them. But man, they're way later. 665 00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:22,630 It's just, it's crazy. Yeah. 666 00:39:22,750 --> 00:39:27,090 And so I look at some of the NPC guys and they're I'm looking at 667 00:39:27,090 --> 00:39:30,690 them going, man, you look like some of these WNBF guys that I 668 00:39:30,690 --> 00:39:34,410 know that you know are just getting, you know they're 669 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:37,650 halfway through the prep and you're you're stepping on stage 670 00:39:37,650 --> 00:39:40,010 right now. It's just it's a different 671 00:39:40,010 --> 00:39:43,530 level. I think the WNBF and I don't 672 00:39:43,530 --> 00:39:46,970 know if the Federation you went pro and looks at it this way 673 00:39:46,970 --> 00:39:48,970 too, but like the leaner the better. 674 00:39:49,810 --> 00:39:52,530 I I think that is definitely what embodies the sport of 675 00:39:52,530 --> 00:39:56,170 bodybuilding most, you know, like it's great to have size. 676 00:39:56,700 --> 00:39:59,460 But not at the expense of definition. 677 00:39:59,460 --> 00:40:04,620 Like if you are outsized, but the person that is bigger simply 678 00:40:04,620 --> 00:40:07,580 lacks that conditioning. Like that to me is much less 679 00:40:07,580 --> 00:40:10,220 impressive like I am. Like you obviously want to be 680 00:40:10,540 --> 00:40:13,420 somewhat, you know, developed. I mean you don't want to walk up 681 00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:17,540 on stage at 110 pounds as a man in the open bodybuilding class 682 00:40:17,540 --> 00:40:20,500 and be peeled out of your mind but have no size at all because 683 00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:23,300 it's not going to be good. But if you've got. 684 00:40:24,060 --> 00:40:27,780 You know, I would much rather sacrifice size for conditioning 685 00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:31,260 and most natural bodybuilders share that same sentiment. 686 00:40:32,540 --> 00:40:35,660 You know, that is that is where the work is put in. 687 00:40:36,020 --> 00:40:40,340 That is where the the, the dieting philosophy and mentality 688 00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:42,820 and just you know, discipline comes in. 689 00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:47,580 So that that is key that that to me is what embodies the support 690 00:40:47,580 --> 00:40:51,220 of bodybuilding and I don't know why A lot of the NPC competitors 691 00:40:51,570 --> 00:40:53,690 there are certainly some really shredded and PC competitors. 692 00:40:53,690 --> 00:40:56,850 So not to take anything away from them, but I feel like such 693 00:40:56,850 --> 00:41:00,930 an emphasis is placed on size In the untested shows that 694 00:41:00,930 --> 00:41:04,090 conditioning is oftentimes just put on the back burner, and I 695 00:41:04,090 --> 00:41:05,610 think that needs to be flipped for sure. 696 00:41:07,490 --> 00:41:09,530 Yeah, I agree. But you know, each federation is 697 00:41:09,530 --> 00:41:13,290 gonna have their their biases and their preferences like some 698 00:41:13,290 --> 00:41:16,490 are gonna want. They're gonna put maybe a little 699 00:41:16,490 --> 00:41:19,530 more emphasis on the symmetry side rather than the size. 700 00:41:19,570 --> 00:41:23,170 It'll. The lameness and conditioning or 701 00:41:23,170 --> 00:41:25,770 others are gonna put the conditioning in the front versus 702 00:41:25,770 --> 00:41:29,130 size like the smaller guy may give it because he's more 703 00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:34,730 peeled, but the NPC has and that's the beauty of the 704 00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:38,090 different federation. So you get to pay and if you 705 00:41:38,090 --> 00:41:42,650 have a certain an advantage like you're. 706 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,880 The bigger guy in the room, and you're very broad shouldered, 707 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,320 but you're not able to get his lean. 708 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:52,160 Like the NPC might be a better option for you if you're wanting 709 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,400 to be more competitive, yeah, versus if you have a really hard 710 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:02,440 time putting on size. But you can get freaky lean and 711 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,200 just peeled out of your mind, you know? 712 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,560 OK, maybe you go look at the WNPF for the OCB or one of those 713 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,800 other natural federations, 100%, man. 714 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080 Yeah, always good having options when it comes to federation. 715 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,200 There's certainly a lot of federations out there now, so 716 00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:20,920 options are abounding everywhere. 717 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,040 What about coaching, man? You started coaching yourself as 718 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,880 too as well, right? How's that going? 719 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:34,560 It's it's going. We really haven't. 720 00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:38,830 It's so it's my business season. We also own a pool and spa 721 00:42:38,910 --> 00:42:42,550 contracting company. So we fix and repair pool and 722 00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:44,390 hot tubs. And so we're recording this on 723 00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:47,790 Memorial Day which is one of like four days a year. 724 00:42:47,790 --> 00:42:52,470 I take off and this is we just got done with our big push. 725 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:56,510 So now we're going to kind of float through to 4th of July. 726 00:42:56,510 --> 00:42:58,870 We're going to have another big push there right before then. 727 00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:02,940 So it's like I don't put too much emphasis on the other 728 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:08,460 business right now, which is Gal Strength Co, which is just like 729 00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:12,460 you guys is. We're not coaching competitors. 730 00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:15,300 I don't want to. We started this because Alyssa 731 00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:21,260 wanted to help moms who are postpartum and I know. 732 00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:24,490 Crystal kind of feels the same way with the bounce back 733 00:43:24,490 --> 00:43:28,210 mentality of that's unhealthy, like, oh, I lost all my baby 734 00:43:28,210 --> 00:43:29,090 weight. It's like, yeah, you've gone 735 00:43:29,090 --> 00:43:34,450 from one face to another though. You've gone from creating life 736 00:43:34,890 --> 00:43:38,530 to feeding the life. Like you need to not worry 737 00:43:38,530 --> 00:43:42,130 about, oh, I'm, you know, got to get back to my, my prepregnancy 738 00:43:42,130 --> 00:43:43,210 weight. It's no. 739 00:43:43,970 --> 00:43:47,730 Let's focus on, you know, things like milk production. 740 00:43:48,350 --> 00:43:50,950 Like just getting you feeling better or getting strength, you 741 00:43:50,950 --> 00:43:54,510 know, losing some of the, the unnecessary but still focusing 742 00:43:54,510 --> 00:43:58,910 on the important thing. So we built that for her. 743 00:44:00,470 --> 00:44:05,310 So, but I haven't put much into that just because with the other 744 00:44:05,310 --> 00:44:09,470 business I'm so wrapped up with. But it's it's fun. 745 00:44:09,470 --> 00:44:12,190 We had a couple clients for a little while. 746 00:44:12,190 --> 00:44:18,070 So a lot of them, because we do take the Kyo approach. 747 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:23,080 They think keto is great and just gonna be, you know, bacon 748 00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,200 and eggs and that's all they're gonna eat. 749 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,760 And then, you know, we take a whole food approach and they 750 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:30,760 don't like it because they're like, well, I just want to eat 751 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,360 potato chips now. It's like, well, that's not how 752 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:38,040 we do it. Yeah, so finding that niche is 753 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,320 kind of hard. But you know, under a year old, 754 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,440 it's actually under, it's six months old now. 755 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:50,340 So I didn't expect it to be. Any profitable for the first 756 00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:53,860 like 4 years. So hey, growing it bit by bit, 757 00:44:53,860 --> 00:44:55,300 day by day, man, that's the name of the game. 758 00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:57,980 I mean, having your own niche carving that out, I love like 759 00:44:57,980 --> 00:45:02,580 the focus on, you know, postpartum moms and getting them 760 00:45:02,580 --> 00:45:06,980 healthy and not fixating on their weight necessarily so much 761 00:45:06,980 --> 00:45:09,300 as their compositions. I think that is absolutely key. 762 00:45:10,820 --> 00:45:14,340 Yeah, I mean, shoot. Look at a. 763 00:45:15,540 --> 00:45:17,500 You know, because we're talking about moms. 764 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:23,740 Look at 140 pound mom with 110 pounds of lead mass versus 140 765 00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:29,220 pound mom with, you know, 70 pounds only in mass. 766 00:45:29,220 --> 00:45:31,700 Like they're going to have two completely different 767 00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:34,340 compositions regardless of the weight being the same. 768 00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:36,660 Yeah, totally, man. The. 769 00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:38,820 Scale is a number. It's not going to hurt you. 770 00:45:39,580 --> 00:45:45,160 That's hard to understand, but. It's great data but it's not the 771 00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:49,040 end all be all you know there's so many more things. 772 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,120 It's like the the non scale victories are more important. 773 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,320 You know the hey, this shirt fits a little looser now or you 774 00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,600 know, oh I have to go buy my favorite pair of pants in a size 775 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,800 down now. Like those are the little things 776 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:10,160 that you know, we need to focus more on rather than just oh I'm 777 00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,020 sub, whatever. Number it is, yeah, totally 778 00:46:15,020 --> 00:46:18,620 agree. And I feel like bodybuilding can 779 00:46:18,620 --> 00:46:21,660 force people to operate on either of the extremes when it 780 00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:24,820 comes to that relationship with the scale and weight body 781 00:46:24,820 --> 00:46:27,140 composition. You know, like it really. 782 00:46:27,780 --> 00:46:31,780 When you do a bodybuilding show in a healthy, sustainable 783 00:46:31,780 --> 00:46:34,980 manner, you're able to appreciate what the body is 784 00:46:34,980 --> 00:46:39,980 capable of and how various compositions and weights look on 785 00:46:39,980 --> 00:46:42,600 you. And then you can take that 786 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,840 knowledge and leverage it going forward throughout the normal 787 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:49,800 daytoday building phases. But I think at the same time, 788 00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,840 people can oftentimes fixate on the negatives and focus on the 789 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,800 things that aren't as important as the actual composition. 790 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,520 But if done correctly, I think bodybuilding just opens one's 791 00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:03,520 eyes to what's possible and what their weight at various 792 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,560 compositions can look like. Yeah, there's. 793 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,120 I mean, there's a whole lot more. 794 00:47:10,110 --> 00:47:15,750 To all of this than just one number, one number isn't gonna 795 00:47:15,750 --> 00:47:19,350 define you. You know your your day-to-day 796 00:47:19,350 --> 00:47:22,230 functional strength is gonna be a huge, huge thing. 797 00:47:22,270 --> 00:47:25,190 How you feel every day is gonna be an important thing. 798 00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:30,070 If you're you know, yeah you can you can be keto or you know 799 00:47:30,070 --> 00:47:32,470 heavy carb or vegetarian or vegan. 800 00:47:32,470 --> 00:47:36,510 But if you feel absolutely miserable the entire time. 801 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:38,750 I think you need to re approach it. 802 00:47:39,150 --> 00:47:43,350 Really look at it and approach it at a different angle. 803 00:47:43,870 --> 00:47:47,190 Totally. Cuz it's about moving forward in 804 00:47:47,190 --> 00:47:50,110 a positive direction and finding what works for you as an 805 00:47:50,110 --> 00:47:51,670 individual. And I don't. 806 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:57,070 I Kito works for me, Kito works for you, it works for my wife. 807 00:47:57,990 --> 00:47:59,350 But it doesn't work for everybody. 808 00:47:59,510 --> 00:48:02,190 Not everybody sees it that way, like my brother. 809 00:48:02,860 --> 00:48:05,940 Was vegetarian and vegan for years and he found that work 810 00:48:06,060 --> 00:48:09,900 would be well for him for several years and then he, you 811 00:48:09,940 --> 00:48:11,900 know, has moved away from that side. 812 00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:14,340 He doesn't think it works for him now. 813 00:48:14,340 --> 00:48:18,620 So now finding what works for you and changing with your 814 00:48:18,620 --> 00:48:21,540 cycles. Yeah, 100%, man. 815 00:48:21,860 --> 00:48:24,660 How's your son doing? Great. 816 00:48:24,740 --> 00:48:27,620 Yeah. He's a freaking tank though. 18 817 00:48:27,620 --> 00:48:32,640 months now. Yeah, running like crazy. 818 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,520 Is Rigel running yet? Not running yet, but he's like 819 00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,320 standing up and not holding on to anything. 820 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,640 So he hasn't walked yet, but I think it's literally gonna 821 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,360 happen within the next day or two. 822 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,600 Yeah. I saw him trying to open the 823 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,320 doors in the pantry the other day. 824 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,440 Yeah, yeah, he's. And I was just like, oh boy, 825 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:58,880 that's that's fun. He fell out of his crib this 826 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,840 morning. Like, we needed to lower it 827 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,560 down. We, I know. 828 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,720 I pointed that yesterday. Like, man, we need to lower that 829 00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:06,840 down. He's getting too big for it. 830 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,280 And then literally today he rolls over the top of his crib, 831 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,440 hits the ground. So that's been lowered now. 832 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,000 But but yeah, he's getting into all kinds of missions for sure. 833 00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:21,980 Yep, Yep, It's fun. It's fun. 834 00:49:22,180 --> 00:49:25,580 But you know I'm excited to get them back together here and 835 00:49:26,580 --> 00:49:29,460 October when you guys come out to this side of the country, 836 00:49:30,620 --> 00:49:31,780 yeah, I'm looking forward to it man. 837 00:49:31,780 --> 00:49:33,220 It's gonna be awesome to see you again in person. 838 00:49:33,220 --> 00:49:35,620 It's gonna be awesome to to get a work at in with you at that 839 00:49:36,020 --> 00:49:40,620 legit gym you've got building out now and just it's just good 840 00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:41,940 to know you man. I appreciate all that you've 841 00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:43,340 done. I appreciate all the support, 842 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:47,630 appreciate working with you as a client, coach, and I just 843 00:49:47,630 --> 00:49:49,070 appreciate what you're doing, man, so keep doing it. 844 00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:50,750 Where do people go to find out more about you, brother? 845 00:49:52,310 --> 00:49:57,590 So we got a couple of ways. So the guile strengthco.com, 846 00:49:57,590 --> 00:50:03,030 that's GEIL strengthco.com is for our coaching stuff. 847 00:50:03,510 --> 00:50:06,470 If you're looking at us, though, go with Robert, He's a better 848 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:09,390 coach. Full disclosure, you can find us 849 00:50:09,390 --> 00:50:14,150 on Instagram. DG under Score Keto is me and 850 00:50:14,150 --> 00:50:16,790 then we also have at Guile Strength Co. 851 00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:21,780 On Instagram, if you want to see pictures of our border collie, 852 00:50:22,220 --> 00:50:25,620 one of our puppies, you can always go to revin the border 853 00:50:25,620 --> 00:50:29,220 collie and that's linked and on my page too. 854 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,740 And my wife's linked their mind too. 855 00:50:32,580 --> 00:50:34,780 Beautiful. Well, I will definitely post all 856 00:50:34,780 --> 00:50:37,100 those those in the show notes being easy for people to find 857 00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:39,180 you. And we will be in touch on 858 00:50:39,180 --> 00:50:41,380 Slack. I got your macros updated for 859 00:50:41,380 --> 00:50:42,780 this week, so definitely hit those. 860 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:44,640 And if you have anything from, yeah. 861 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,080 I know. Can we please have some more 862 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,680 fat? Well, I'm trying to. 863 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,280 I'm the. Proteins killing me. 864 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,280 I'm getting tired of chicken. Don't your bricks. 865 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,480 And chicken has been my saving grace for the last three weeks. 866 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,240 I'm gonna bump up your fat really soon. 867 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:59,680 I just want to get you up to 200 grams of protein first. 868 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,440 We're getting, We're getting gotta. 869 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,560 Give you a hard time about that, though, before you know it, man. 870 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,640 All right, Dakota. We'll keep killing it, brother. 871 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,600 We'll be in touch and we'll talk soon, man. 872 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:12,120 Sounds great. Have a good one. 873 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:12,920 You too, brother. Bye. 874 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,200 Bye.