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What's going on? 
Ladies and gents, Robert Sykes 

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keto Savage.com, and I've got 
special guest the one and only 

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Sim laying on the line today. 
And this is kind of cool because

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when I very first started the 
diet, I found him on YouTube and

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some of his books, he had 
written excited to pick his 

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brain today. 
How are you, man? 

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Well, I'm super excited to be on
this podcast, you know, the key 

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to salvage boat. 
Casts and I like, like you 

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mentioned that you found me on 
YouTube and I found you on 

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YouTube as well. 
When I was when I was doing 

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research about keto and 
bodybuilding and you're 

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definitely one of the top guys 
in this field in my opinion. 

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Appreciate ya. 
Yeah. 

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But maybe like talk about that 
about myself then I also have 

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like a YouTube channel like you 
mentioned. 

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I've written some books about 
Quito and I have a podcast and I

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do I covered topics more than 
just ketogenic diet, eating, 

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like I do fasting, other bio 
hacks called thermogenesis Wim 

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Hof method, light therapy and, 
you know, stuff like that. 

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So I'm kind of involved in 
meshed into all these come with.

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What is the human optimization 
who could call it that? 

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Yeah, for Sherman Act, we can 
dive into that all day long 

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because I love kind of not even 
necessary hacking. 

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The system is just really 
optimizing it to its full 

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potential. 
So what I mean what got you into

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you know diving into what the 
human body is capable of. 

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Of and ways to perfect it and 
increase performance in the 

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first place, hmm? 
Like, I think like, it's 

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something that is very comes, 
very natural to me. 

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I ever since I was a child. 
I remembered, you know, wanting 

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to improve myself wanting to 
learn. 

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You know, I remember when I was 
10 or something, then I had I 

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made myself this kind of a goal 
or this rule that I'm going to 

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do you know, pull ups every day.
Every day I'm going to do like 

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at least you know, 5 pull-ups 
when start with 5 pull-ups you 

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know and I'm going to see how 
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improve myself. 
How can I push myself every day?

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And I kind of feel like that's 
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carried all over to the carried,
over to my teenage years, when I

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started working out there like 
the real Jim. 

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And when I, what, when I started
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it happened, like in the 
military after, after I 

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graduated high school, I 
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eight months and they're your 
kind of Opposed to different 

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kinds of elements in the, in 
nature, in the wild, and it's 

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physically, tough. 
It's mentally, tough as well. 

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And that's that got me 
interested in like survival. 

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And what does it mean for the 
human organism or a human system

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to, you know, thrive in this in 
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environmental stress and 
different psychological 

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challenges of also, after after 
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then I started my blog. 
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there, you know, wrote some 
books started to YouTube channel

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and after that it's been a while
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Yeah. 
You can keep the valving. 

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Yeah. 
So what can like you listed up 

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before you've done all these 
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tactics the Wim Hof method for 
any better than about that. 

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What, how would you describe the
Wim Hof method? 

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The Wim Hof method is, is a is a
breathing exercise, it's like 

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hyperventilation trolled 
hyperventilation, that allows 

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you to trigger the positive 
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nervous system. 
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adrenaline, some cortisol, and 
it's going to put you into this 

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very focused state of mind and 
it's going to energize your all 

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of your cells. 
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it's not like hyper into the 
hyperventilation in the sense of

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you freaking out and the getting
an epi pen. 

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It took, you're doing it 
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Manner, and the key is like, 
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throughout the entire process. 
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something along the lines of 
like, you know, things like 

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that, you know, and you repeat 
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something. 
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hold, which is going to 
actually, you know, release this

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more of more, more nitric oxide 
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And basically, I like it's a 
very energizing exercise and Wim

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Hof him. 
Self is like a Guinness World 

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Record holder. 
He has, he has done things like,

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you know, climb Mount Everest in
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Yeah, he has spent like two 
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he's like the Iceman. 
So he's you, he uses these 

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different breathing methods to 
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So yeah, I'm really, I'm really 
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because it's kind of crazy like,
there's a whole bunch of 

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pictures of him online. 
I'm just like totally covered. 

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Yeah, nothing where nothing 
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shorts and and I guess it's all.
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the breathing and how it ties in
with, you know, is like his 

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nervous system and how he feels 
and perceives that cold. 

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Yeah. 
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Like they've done actually 
studies on him and he can, you 

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know, consciously almost 
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temperature doesn't drop to, 
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hypothermia, he maintains a 
stable core temperature and it's

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quite insane. 
Innocence of what the Human 

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nervous system and actually do 
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freak of nature. 
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different of his students and 
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for more all ages. 
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and I've met a few of his 
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practice these kinds of ice 
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It's crazy man people and I 
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it's if people don't do it 
correctly, they can kind of be 

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dangerous. 
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you're reading it correctly. 
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And these can become dangerous. 
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it with actual winter swimming 
or stuff like that, you have to 

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know what you're doing. 
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And definitely like everyone is 
responsible for their own 

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actions. 
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into the actual technique behind
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I need to just dive into like 
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definitely know that, you know, 
I can manipulate my breathing 

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when like Lisa go, scuba diving 
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breathing was doing free diving 
and you can able to, like hold 

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your breath. 
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If you kind of hyperventilate, 
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your blood with like more 
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You can hold your breath longer 
underwater and they kind of same

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concept holds true with, you 
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go into a big lift, I'll 
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kind of force more oxygen into 
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power to that that set more, you
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Like that's a very important 
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the author talks about it as 
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It's not actually a very good 
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ventilate yourself, or to 
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much, because it's going to its 
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mitochondrial degeneration, and 
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oxygen in a sense, the luck. 
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of carbon dioxide that that 
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like you mentioned you, when 
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then you're going to hold your 
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And that carbon The Ducks are 
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to you know fuel your muscle is 
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Yeah, it's so interesting. 
Some breaking things down like 

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on a molecular level like that. 
How much you know, the things 

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that you wouldn't even think of 
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Yeah. 
So it's great. 

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So what about keto that would 
get you into kedo? 

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I mean, if you want to optimize 
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performance that led you to 
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that intermittent fasting. 
So kind of what have you? 

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What's been your like transition
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You know, eating carbs to Quito 
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Point so to speak? 
Well, I thought I was, I started

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off like we're in high school. 
I you know, ventured into the 

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world of paleo and slowly 
started to decrease my carb 

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intake and eliminate, you know, 
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and legumes and do ya like big. 
The reason was that I simply 

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wanted to improve my health, 
like my mom mean, focus. 

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Focus has always been Like bunch
of it and health, not not simply

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purely Aesthetics or something 
that, but yeah, like I did paleo

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and and a lot of like fasting as
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For several years, I couldn't 
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to it entirely when I was in the
military because they feed you 

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like random stuff in there. 
Random ciao. 

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But like when I stumbled upon 
keto, then I first immediately 

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thought like I mean, maybe like 
two extreme, you know, how to 

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how do you actually feel your 
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Going to lose your gains, you're
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the basic fears that, that most 
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But I know after a while, I 
learned, I learned more about 

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it. 
I heard you or a lot of the 

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other health benefits, the 
cognitive benefits and I was 

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simply curious and I was like, 
what the hell? 

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If I'm gonna lose my gains, then
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regain it quite easily and I 
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So it's not that big of an 
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So I tried it out initially. 
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few, a few weeks, maybe four 
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And I noticed, like, quite a 
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levels mental Clarity satiety. 
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know, like I did notice a slight
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even might have lost a little 
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But in hindsight, the reason why
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doing the experiment during the 
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also working working at at this 
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waiter, do you know, earn some 
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shift work almost as well. 
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the summer, you are going to 
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So like that was the biggest 
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Like I do that. 
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suffered during my first keto 
experiments because of that, you

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know, this higher levels of 
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but later Later I after after 
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love with keto because it was so
easy, you know, in a sense you 

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don't have to worry about, you 
know, eating frequently, you 

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don't have to even worry about 
how food affects your 

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performance. 
Your always capable of, you 

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know, you can always go to lift 
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preparing yourself with some 
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something like that. 
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the that's one of the most most 
biggest Benefits that I've seen.

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It is crazy man. 
Like people you know, that it 

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follows traditional time like 
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alone, you know. 
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standard carbohydrate-based 
diet, you have to put so much 

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more time and effort into, you 
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that, it has much more of a 
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you know, like if the peak for a
specific event or, you know, at 

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the time, everything just right,
so that you get the right 

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glycogen stored up to, you know,
lift efficiently. 

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And with it, you know, it's like
eat. 

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Yeah, you don't worry about it. 
I mean, they'll be times where 

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I'll, I'll not work out for, you
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eating, or I might work out, you
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eating, but either way, like, 
I'm consistently performing. 

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Well, I just take so many 
variables out of the equation. 

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And I just, I don't know, it's 
just from a lifestyle 

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perspective, it's liberating. 
Yeah, it's this keto. 

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He's like, Freedom almost and it
is like ins in a sense of his 

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more effective as well. 
Like I see people doing these 

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Instagram posts or you know, 
videos about But meal prep. 

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And I'm always thinking, like, 
why would you need to do it in a

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like everyone. 
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have nothing to worry about, you
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that busy that you don't have 
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actually a good idea to eat in 
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fat gain. 
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stressed out State, then it's 
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pretty big caveat there. 
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if you're only eating one or two
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traveling or something you know 
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situation but you don't need to 
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So meal prepping that a critical
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like what have you found because
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like, it's hard to really 
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Cortisol and lack of sleep, 
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you noticed any patterns of 
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biohacking that you've done? 
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like stress that application and
the ability to cope with stress,

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they're all subjective in a 
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has a physiological basis but at
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psychological. 
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Like, the way you perceive the 
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Like, for instance, if I'm 
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you know, working on my business
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of, you know, exercising. 
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stress than something like, I 
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feeling miserable. 
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on the situation and and if you 
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like the neural chemical stimuli
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that stress as well. 
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positive stress in a sense like,
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I know that this kind of this 
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me, but I know it's moving 
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actually become something to you
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So, yeah. 
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physiologic even physiological. 
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For instance, if we talked about
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hasn't On this kind of cold 
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freezing. 
I'm going to die, but it's up 

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for someone who is doing, it 
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going into an ice bath. 
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it because it's um, it's a 
matter of like conscious choice 

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and it's deliberate. 
What like is there any tips or 

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tricks that you have 
Incorporated? 

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A few can sense yourself? 
Kind of challenge getting 

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stressed out in the day to take 
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Yeah, like it's true indeed like
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can still lead to like overdrive
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usually happens. 
Like when you can feel your, you

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know, quality Source, surging 
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And what I do then is I have to 
first assist, you know, what is,

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why am I feeling this way? 
Did I do something? 

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It's that made me stressed out. 
Maybe I drank too much coffee. 

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maybe like there's something in 
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feel less optimal. 
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you have to kind of, you have to
kind of get yourself out of that

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spiral. 
You have to get out of that 

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stress cycle as soon as possible
because the more stressed out 

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you are the more stress you can 
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you experience, the more 
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become so Like it's very the 
chronic stress is very dangerous

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in this in this sense. 
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the bricks almost completely. 
I usually maybe like meditate go

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for a walk in nature. 
Listen to some audio books and 

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you don't simply put myself on, 
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dominance state where I'm 
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thing that I've started to 
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is like, I'm having this kind of
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Put on my headphones, I listen 
to some guided meditation for 

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maybe like 10 to 20 minutes and 
it's going to immediately like, 

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recharge my batteries and 
rejuvenate my mind as well. 

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How do you do that? 
I usually I try to do it like 

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ideally. 
I would want to do it like every

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Like for instance today, I 
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like every other day probably 
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working out harder. 
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definitely a good recovery act 
as well. 

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And you just have like ten 
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What. 
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recently, is this kind of a yoga
sleep, Yoga Nidra and it kind of

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works, like, it's not even like 
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napping, you're never gonna fall
out of Consciousness in this 

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sense. 
Your simply is, it's a lot like 

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mindful. 
I know this is or navigation 

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throughout your body. 
For instance, the soundtrack is 

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going to tell you like focus on 
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thumb, you know, second finger, 
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hip, collarbone back, things 
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move throughout the entire body.
And it's a very relaxing, 

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relaxing exercise. 
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like it put in it makes you more
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And it's Center is your body and
your mind. 

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So it's like, it's been very 
effective and after you wake up 

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from it, then you feel like, you
feel like you slept like two 

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hours or something and that's 
something I've noticed, is there

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like an app for that? 
Or is it like a program that you

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use? 
Look? 

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Like, I simply use like YouTube.
There are thousands thousands, 

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thousands of videos about it, 
and different kinds. 

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So like the main idea is to 
Simply have something to focus 

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on and that guiding voice is 
like a me. 

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Means of analyzing your body, 
like, you know, like can have 

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played around with a few of the,
the meditation amps in like the 

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brainwave apps and everything. 
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those can have such a profound 
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Yeah, definitely. 
What about intermittent fasting 

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and fasting in general kind of 
dive into that. 

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What have you learned and played
around with there? 

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Well, I think like fasting was 
one of the best changes that 

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I've implemented into my like 
not only nutrition but life in 

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general. 
It's like the I first started 

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off with fasting, doing this 
sort of lean gains style of 16 

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hours fasting, and eight hours 
eating and I saw immediately. 

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No results in my performance in 
my energy levels again, you 

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know, the whole good stuff and I
moved on from there. 

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To the warrior that, for, by 
Oral form of macular. 

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And he has this book about you 
know of actually spending most 

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of the day in a fasted State you
know up to like 20 hours or so 

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and then eating during like a 
small time window and it also 

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works but it's more aggressive 
in the senses it's going to 

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promote more fat burning and 
it's the more difficult to build

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muscle with that. 
But I will tell you then, yeah. 

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Yeah, like it because of the 
feeding window is a more 

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restricted in. 
It would get he beats them and 

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then like 3,000 calories, once a
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I think so. 
Maybe I like, yeah, it did. 

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The warrior dad has been around 
for like decades old. 

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Not not take his butt or you 
have McClure wrote it in like 

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you in the early parts of 2000, 
the year 2000. 

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So he's like an O Gog 
intermittent Pastor, he's like 

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and and he's like over 60 years 
old as well, and he's like 

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ripped and it's amazing. 
Very cool as hell. 

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So that's more for losing fat. 
It's harder to build the muscle 

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was such a long fasting with 
Well it can happen in a sense 

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like if you do consume excess 
calories then you can still gain

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weight with this kind of eating.
But the the difference is that 

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like it's still more optimal to 
have, let's say like protein 

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synthesis, Pike twice a day. 
I would imagine if your main 

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focus is to build muscle but in 
my own experience I would say 

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like building very lean muscle 
and you know, burning Staying 

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relatively lean with this kind 
of Alma diet, one minute the 

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diet or the warrior that, you 
know, that that's a very good 

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good way of achieving both the 
muscle gain and fat burning 

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almost simultaneously. 
But it's very like, it's very 

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difficult and it's like it's 
incremental gains in the sense. 

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Yeah, I think and I think with 
Quito in general, like the you 

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put on weights more slowly. 
It seems but the way you put on 

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so much more Quality quality 
way. 

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Wait that makes sense. 
Yeah, definitely definitely. 

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Definitely. 
What about I mean? 

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Just building muscle Wiki to 
engine, like that's like a big 

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hot topic for debate right now. 
People assume that you can't do 

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it. 
They don't really know the whole

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protein synthesis process works.
What have you found to be the 

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most efficient way to do that? 
Like, the most important thing 

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for building muscle is like, 
getting stronger. 

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That's, that's the main thing. 
Like the training stimulus has 

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to be there for your body to 
Actually received the signal 

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that it needs to get bigger in 
this sense. 

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And for that, you know, the best
way to do it is resistance 

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exercise, what that by lifting 
weights or even you're doing 

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your bodyweight only, you know, 
there's not that much 

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difference. 
In terms of the training 

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stimulus, you just have to 
progressively get stronger and 

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you have to at the same time you
have to accompanied by you know,

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adequate protein as well. 
The protein is literally the 

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building blocks of this new 
muscle muscle. 

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And Yeah, without the energy 
then your body is going to 

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struggle in terms of putting on 
more mass in this sense. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
I think and I think, do you 

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think there's a certain 
percentage of protein that's 

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necessary to build muscle, or 
just like some general 

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guidelines, that you kind of 
shoot for yourself? 

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I think like, there is some 
individual differences for some 

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people. 
I remember, I remember like, 

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when I first started keto, then 
my protein was relatively low. 

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Like I stuck to around 100 grams
and I didn't feel as best or I 

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didn't feel as strong as I do. 
Now by consuming slightly more 

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at the moment I'm consuming like
maybe 130 grams to 140 grams or 

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something, I don't know. 
I'm not sure what exactly what 

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Percentages might be, but I'm 
not. 

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I'm not aiming for percentages 
when it comes to protein. 

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I'm trying to reach a certain 
threshold with protein, which is

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usually like, 0.6 to 0.8 grams 
per pound of body weight or 

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something. 
I'm not, I'm not particularly 

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measuring it. 
But, you know, after a many 

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years of doing kiddo and and 
dieting in general, then I've 

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simply, you know, you kind of 
guesstimate all of those things 

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with your eye, with your eyes, 
you know, by memory, almost, Do 

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you think there's any advantage 
to having like, 200 300 grams of

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protein? 
Like, some of these traditional 

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body builders are taking Indra 
top. 

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That will the that's kind of a 
very sad state to be in because 

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usually, if you're consuming 
that much protein, then you'll 

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probably have, you know, low 
carb and you'll probably have 

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lower lower fat as well. 
So, this it's going to keep you 

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in a very deprived state where 
your body is constantly trying 

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to you're not in very deep 
ketosis you. 

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Maybe like in very mild, 
transient ketosis in between 

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your meals, but that protein is 
going to, it may not be 

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converting it into, you know, 
glucose or cake like people are 

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afraid of but it's still your 
stippling protein. 

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It cannot be converted into or 
protein. 

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Cannot be used. 
As energy protein is a building 

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block, in a sense before you 
can, before you can store 

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protein in your body, then it 
has to be converted into glucose

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first. 
Yeah, which is a pretty 

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inefficient process in the 
grand. 

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Scheme of thing. 
So, yeah, yeah, it's not really 

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that the ideal optimal way to 
create energy to be used by the 

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body. 
Yeah. 

447
00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:01,700
Exactly. 
And the like from an 

448
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:05,500
evolutionary perspective, or if 
you would live in the wild wild,

449
00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:09,100
then there's also this thing 
called rabbit starvation, which 

450
00:25:09,100 --> 00:25:11,900
happens when hunter gatherers 
would, you know, simply they 

451
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,300
would starve to death because 
they wouldn't get access to Fat,

452
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:17,700
deer meat, they would eat 
rabbits, you know, and the 

453
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:21,000
rabbits are really, very lean, 
they don't have a lot of, you 

454
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,800
know, fat from the We have 
mostly protein and if people eat

455
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,500
only protein then they're not 
going to get energy and they're 

456
00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:32,800
going to start to death. 
So definitely a kind of want to 

457
00:25:32,808 --> 00:25:35,700
be in like the last month, the 
most traditional competitors. 

458
00:25:35,700 --> 00:25:36,800
Basically, what they're doing 
is, why? 

459
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:41,600
I'll look and feel terrible. 
Yeah, like that's and your 

460
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:43,800
experience. 
You definitely did the opposite.

461
00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:47,400
You lowered your protein instead
and it dropped your Fatso. 

462
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,800
Heater works. 
In this sense. 

463
00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:53,600
Absolutely. 
What about What about carbs and 

464
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,500
kind of like your take on carbs,
what do you find to be optimal 

465
00:25:56,500 --> 00:26:03,700
there in general? 
Like I do feel amazing when I'm 

466
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,500
eating like a very low carb, 
keto diet. 

467
00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:11,900
And usually if you're if I do 
feel like the accidentally kick 

468
00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:14,400
myself out of ketosis by 
consuming slightly more carbs 

469
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400
from, I don't know, like 
vegetables or you know, 

470
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,500
fermented foods or stuff like 
that. 

471
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,900
Then I still feel like it's not 
going. 

472
00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:27,000
Like a negative impact on my 
overall, overall, well-being, 

473
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,300
and mental Clarity, the next day
either. 

474
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:33,000
Because it's going the longer. 
You kind of dookie do the 

475
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,700
longer, you become corrupted, 
then the easier it is for you to

476
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:40,000
re-establish, ketosis and dip in
and out of it more frequently. 

477
00:26:40,700 --> 00:26:44,700
But at the same time like I 
still think like carbs carbs, 

478
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,700
aren't the enemy and carbs are a
fuel source that you can use 

479
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:51,700
only in very certain specific 
circumstances. 

480
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:56,900
And those circumstances, they 
vary between individuals, a lot,

481
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,200
like for some Rich Froning, I 
would imagine who like this, the

482
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,900
fittest man on Earth from 
Crossfit, he has a higher carb 

483
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,600
threshold or carb tolerance than
someone who is sedentary, and 

484
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,100
you would never want to 
prescribe the same diet to this 

485
00:27:12,100 --> 00:27:14,600
kind of a diabetic go over it 
person. 

486
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800
So, it's always a matter of 
context. 

487
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:20,000
The problem is that the problem 
is that most most people's 

488
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,900
bodies aren't capable of 
handling. 

489
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:25,300
I think that vast amount of 
carbohydrates and glucose that 

490
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:29,600
that's, you know, prescribed by 
most witness diets angry. 

491
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,200
And it's kind of crazy, like, a 
lot of, you know, extreme 

492
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000
competitive athletes. 
You know, they can have that 

493
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,100
higher threshold. 
But even that even their higher 

494
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:42,300
threshold is still pretty low 
when compared to people who 

495
00:27:42,700 --> 00:27:45,600
should not be eaten near as many
carbs and are much more 

496
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,400
sedentary, so it's just kind of 
recipe for disaster for them. 

497
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:55,700
Yeah, I think like the the like 
fundamental Base Line would be a

498
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,700
keto diet for everyone. 
Like if you're not, if you're 

499
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:03,100
not working out then I think 
that day if you're not working 

500
00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,400
out that a day then that they 
should be like a low-carb diet 

501
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,800
for everyone. 
So just just for General Health.

502
00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:11,800
Yeah. 
No, I completely agree. 

503
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,700
Completely. 
What do you think about like 

504
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:16,400
like the targeted Quito in the 
cyclical Kido? 

505
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:20,800
Hmm. 
I did try the secret cookie 

506
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:27,100
dough during my first months of 
Quito experiment and like it is 

507
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,400
like very appealing. 
It's very attractive in this 

508
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,600
sense of, okay? 
I'm gonna, I'm gonna grind 

509
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,100
through this week and then going
to have a massive cheat day and 

510
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:40,700
those days they indeed were like
a very glorious and enjoyable in

511
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:45,800
this sense, like I remember I 
was in college and I was he 

512
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,800
eating like about 5,000 calories
and you know what? 

513
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:52,800
1,000 grams of carbs with from, 
you know, some potatoes rice. 

514
00:28:52,900 --> 00:28:55,400
I did try to stick to some 
healthy cars, but I also like 

515
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,700
ate some, you know, the process 
stuff like I don't know, waffles

516
00:29:00,100 --> 00:29:02,600
pancakes, you know, ice cream 
stuff like that. 

517
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,800
And you woke up the next day you
woke up quite fast, cooler. 

518
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,400
You woke up even leaner than you
were before but at the same time

519
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,700
you kind of suffered with this 
from this massive car blue and 

520
00:29:11,700 --> 00:29:14,400
brain fog. 
So yeah, it kind of got boring. 

521
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,600
I had different priorities in 
the sense like I needed my brain

522
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,100
to function at its best. 
To, you know, build up a 

523
00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:24,300
business and run my blog. 
So I didn't, I didn't, you know,

524
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,200
the benefits didn't outweigh the
negative side effects, so I 

525
00:29:28,208 --> 00:29:31,500
decided to kind of move away 
from that. 

526
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,200
And then I tried to get the 
target at keto diet, which 

527
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,900
which, which I, which, I believe
like it's it's more, it's more 

528
00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:45,400
effective than cyclical keto. 
Because you can, you get the 

529
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:46,900
performance enhancing boost of 
this? 

530
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,400
Small amount of carbohydrates. 
But at the Same time, you're 

531
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,800
going to not going to suffer 
from these massive Chi to flow 

532
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,800
again and because you're not 
going to overdo with the carbs. 

533
00:29:56,300 --> 00:30:00,600
And I've been trying it out on 
like some of most of my more 

534
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,800
intense high intensity training 
days. 

535
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,700
Usually when I'm incorporating 
some I don't know, hit cardio or

536
00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:10,900
Tabata or if I mean if I'm 
simply trying to build more mess

537
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,400
with with with keto then I'm 
trying to then I will Implement 

538
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,400
maybe like a small amount of 
carbs with some protein, maybe 

539
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,100
like a half. 
If banana or things like that, 

540
00:30:21,300 --> 00:30:26,200
but in general, like, I still 
don't feel I can still perform 

541
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,200
without it, you know, like maybe
even like, you know, I'll skip 

542
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:35,800
anything or skip all meals all 
together, and I'll maybe drink 

543
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,800
like apple cider vinegar with 
some water. 

544
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:40,700
And that's my pre-workout drink.
And that put me into the right 

545
00:30:40,700 --> 00:30:43,100
state of mind and, you know, I 
can still work out. 

546
00:30:44,100 --> 00:30:46,000
Yeah, absolutely. 
I think I've not really played 

547
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,800
around the Target acute much 
myself. 

548
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,100
But you know how You people on 
that, they've enjoyed working 

549
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,300
with it. 
And I do see kind of like how it

550
00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:57,300
could be advantageous in sense, 
but I can see it being dangerous

551
00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,900
to the people. 
Wind up kind of giving 

552
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:03,300
themselves more carbs in their 
body actually needs and there 

553
00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,500
and just kind of doing the more 
harm than good. 

554
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,800
Yeah, it definitely doesn't work
for all sports. 

555
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,900
You can't you can't get away 
with it. 

556
00:31:10,900 --> 00:31:15,600
When doing yoga or or even like,
let's say powerlifting itself. 

557
00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:17,900
You're not actually burning a 
ton of glycogen when you're 

558
00:31:17,900 --> 00:31:21,800
doing powerlifting. 
Yeah, this lower reps like one, 

559
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,500
two, three, reps, or even five 
reps that those those are 

560
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,700
perfect for keto because you 
don't need that many carbs you 

561
00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:30,700
would only like maybe want to 
experiment with this target key 

562
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:34,100
do when you're doing this crazy 
bodybuilding, super sets and 

563
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,200
stuff like that or if you're 
doing CrossFit or if you're 

564
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,700
working out twice a day or if 
you're even like kind of no, 

565
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:43,700
doing Ironman Triathlon. 
Those people did they tend to do

566
00:31:43,700 --> 00:31:46,700
better with the the target 
Aikido and you know, other 

567
00:31:46,700 --> 00:31:48,400
people simply won't need them 
carbs. 

568
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,200
So like doing doing housework 
and walking around the park, 

569
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,600
doesn't doesn't qualify. 
Yeah. 

570
00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:58,600
You have to be a throat, your 
Fitbit and reset the data in 

571
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:04,400
that category on the cyclical 
to, I think cyclical. 

572
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,700
I don't know, man. 
I think cyclical, just kind of 

573
00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:10,600
like, it was made with the 
intention of being the best of 

574
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,100
both worlds, you know, carbs and
keto. 

575
00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:14,800
But it ones, it being the worst 
of Both Worlds and you're stuck 

576
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,800
in purgatory. 
Mmm. 

577
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,000
Yeah, it's true. 
Like I would imagine like from 

578
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,100
an evolutionary perspective. 
This the human diet is like 

579
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,200
cyclical keto diet with with a 
lot of intermittent fasting and 

580
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,900
stuff like that. 
But the difference is that it 

581
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:35,200
may not be optimal for, you 
know, your performance and 

582
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,600
well-being on a daily basis. 
You don't want to be suffering 

583
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,900
all the time from transitioning 
go with through these periods 

584
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,700
and I would imagine like these 
Cycles or keto Cycles in nature 

585
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,800
that would happen only like once
or twice. 

586
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,700
Year, you know, when the seasons
actually change, not every week,

587
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,200
not every car tonight, not every
car night weekend with your 

588
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,400
friends or watching sports. 
No, I'd totally agreement. 

589
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,400
I think like looking at it from 
a, from an evolutionary 

590
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,600
perspective, you know, the only 
time that a big enough shift 

591
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,500
like that would occur would be 
with the seasons. 

592
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:10,100
And, you know, there's not 
really anything in line with 

593
00:33:10,100 --> 00:33:12,900
that, with just the weekly 
carbines that people are doing 

594
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:14,500
now. 
And honestly, like, like you 

595
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,000
said, in my, you need, your 
mental Clarity and cognition, to

596
00:33:17,008 --> 00:33:18,100
be able to improve your 
business. 

597
00:33:18,500 --> 00:33:20,700
I mean, I mean, just simply 
being able to have that 

598
00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:26,300
consistent mental Clarity to me 
far outweighs the, the 

599
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:30,000
short-term high that I would get
from having a bunch of sugars or

600
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,600
carbs. 
Exactly. 

601
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:36,800
Exactly. 
And one one thing I do think one

602
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,100
of the benefits of the Seeker 
cookie dough dot maybe like 

603
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,900
that. 
It did indeed you know revs up 

604
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,900
your metabolism and speeds up 
the thyroid. 

605
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:48,600
In a sense of if you do consume,
like if you're actually working 

606
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,500
out And then having a refeed 
day, then it may have like a 

607
00:33:52,508 --> 00:33:55,800
very positive benefit on the 
metabolism because, you know, 

608
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,000
whenever I did consume these, 
whenever I do, when I did have 

609
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:03,400
this cheat days, then the next 
day, I was very, you know, my 

610
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,700
performance was indeed will 
slightly improved in terms of 

611
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,699
the pump feeling and you 
actually lost more weight, the 

612
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:14,300
next days as well. 
So it depends on, you know, the 

613
00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:19,199
individual and how, well they're
going to use those carbs if If a

614
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,100
person who is struggling with 
weight, who is trying to 

615
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:25,400
actually lose weight, then 
they're definitely not very, 

616
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,400
it's not a good idea. 
To try the cyclical keto diet as

617
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,900
to, you know, maybe give them 
self a break from their diet 

618
00:34:31,900 --> 00:34:34,199
because it's going to jeopardize
their product that their 

619
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:37,400
process. 
But yeah, like someone who is 

620
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:41,000
doing like bodybuilding, who 
wants to maintain, I don't know,

621
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:42,900
some sort of performance 
oriented goals. 

622
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,900
They may find it applicable into
in some areas and in some 

623
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:51,199
situations. 
What I noticed is like those 

624
00:34:51,900 --> 00:34:56,500
those benefits of the cyclical 
kilo, they, they kind of they 

625
00:34:56,500 --> 00:35:00,100
become apparent in doing strict 
keto as well. 

626
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:03,200
Like the longer you do key, do 
your body's going to adapt very 

627
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,700
well and you're going to notice 
the same benefits. 

628
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:11,100
Even if you do like some if you 
stay consistent with with with 

629
00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:14,100
the strict keto diet, 100 100 
percent agree. 

630
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:17,300
I'm glad you said that because 
like I think another there's 

631
00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:19,800
definitely different stages. 
Is of adaptation. 

632
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,900
And I mean, you can be producing
ketones and technically 

633
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:26,800
registering as in ketosis after 
a day or two, but that is far 

634
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,300
different than being, you know, 
fat adapted for six months and 

635
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,100
that is far different than being
adapted for years. 

636
00:35:33,700 --> 00:35:38,000
Like your body, just continues 
to become more and more capable 

637
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,700
of using what you give it. 
And like, for me, I've been 

638
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:45,500
strict about four years now and 
I can get better pumps now with 

639
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,600
not having any carbs then I ever
had on you. 

640
00:35:48,900 --> 00:35:51,800
Carb refeed days and carb 
Surplus days. 

641
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,800
Like I just feel and perform way
better now. 

642
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,700
It's just like a it's a more 
consistent feel. 

643
00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:59,800
That's why I like I always 
Advocate, you know, playing for 

644
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,200
the long game and with that with
the keto diet, like nobody wants

645
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,400
to think of it as oh wow, I'm 
not going with having those 

646
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,600
benefits for years to come, but 
if you just look at it as a 

647
00:36:07,607 --> 00:36:10,200
lifestyle, this is just how you 
live now and that'll be here 

648
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,800
before, you know it and you just
keep getting better wage month 

649
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,400
that goes by. 
That is that, is that like I've 

650
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,000
noticed that myself as well like
your boy She is going to adapt 

651
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,800
to everything that it gets 
exposed to and like, I feel like

652
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:30,500
after this several months or 
years of Kira reputation the 

653
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:33,800
ketones, the become as efficient
as a glucose in the sense like 

654
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,500
you like your body's going to 
metabolize them the same way and

655
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,100
the ketones are going to replace
glucose in this sense I believe.

656
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:45,200
Yeah yeah. 
I think I mean exactly exactly 

657
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,300
the exactly right. 
Like your body you know it's 

658
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:52,200
forced Use and learn how to use 
what it has available to it. 

659
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,200
So like if you're just putting 
in quality ketogenic Foods then 

660
00:36:56,300 --> 00:36:58,100
I mean your body is going to be 
able to use that. 

661
00:36:58,100 --> 00:37:00,100
Just as efficiently, but more 
efficiently than if you're 

662
00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,800
putting in a bunch of you know, 
crap foods and carbs. 

663
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,700
So you do like it. 
What do you think about, you 

664
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:10,200
know, dipping in and out of 
ketosis to find it positive? 

665
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,500
Or does it happen? 
Like it's no good. 

666
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,100
I honestly haven't even leave 
her out there. 

667
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:19,300
Like I've just been strictly do 
for four years now and I just I 

668
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,500
don't want to sacrifice, I feel 
that because I've, I feel so 

669
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:25,700
good. 
Now, you know, some people will 

670
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:27,800
argue that, you know. 
And I agree. 

671
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,300
Like if I was to get out of 
ketosis now then then, yeah, I 

672
00:37:31,308 --> 00:37:34,300
would be able to get back into 
ketosis much, much easier in my 

673
00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,100
body wouldn't have near a 
negative effect. 

674
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:38,500
As if, you know, I tried to do 
the same thing one month into 

675
00:37:38,500 --> 00:37:43,400
the keto diet, but at the same 
time, like that's, I don't know 

676
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,400
what benefit I would get from 
from doing that. 

677
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,900
So I just keep It's tricky to 
do. 

678
00:37:47,500 --> 00:37:51,200
Hmm. 
I'm in the opinion that you do 

679
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,700
would want to, you know, 
occasionally not kick yourself 

680
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,800
out of ketosis entirely. 
But at least, you know, move 

681
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:03,100
Transit lie in between those 
States and what it basic, what 

682
00:38:03,100 --> 00:38:07,000
it may entail is that you're not
going to have like a massive 

683
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,000
GTA, but instead, you may have 
like a slightly more higher 

684
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:13,300
amounts of carbs on your harder,
workout days, like, I don't 

685
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:17,500
know, some beetroot or this 
healthier cars that you may 

686
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:22,400
exceed your Carb threshold by, 
let's say, 20 to 30 grams. 

687
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,200
But yeah, it's not going to be 
enough to actually make. 

688
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,100
Give yourself the key tofu or 
again. 

689
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,000
But what it what it does 
accomplish is it's going to 

690
00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:34,000
improve your metabolic 
flexibility and you and you're 

691
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,500
going to be able to utilize, you
know, different resources more 

692
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:38,800
efficiently as well and that's 
kind of you like protect 

693
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,900
yourself against the car flew in
the future. 

694
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,700
And yeah I agree with that fish.
I think you know, having that 

695
00:38:44,700 --> 00:38:48,400
metabolic flexibility is going 
to be Amplified if I was to you 

696
00:38:48,408 --> 00:38:51,500
know It kind of, you know, flirt
the the edge of the line of a 

697
00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:56,100
bit more but what I mean, I 
could see that being really good

698
00:38:56,100 --> 00:39:01,400
if you know, we had like, you 
know, a crisis or something, I 

699
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,100
didn't have the foods, I needed 
him and I'd be able to consume 

700
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:08,800
carbs and have much less of a 
Down downside to that but, you 

701
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,300
know, I'm not really planning on
a crisis mode. 

702
00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:16,000
I should, I should have access 
to the Quality Foods, you know, 

703
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:17,700
whenever I want them or need 
them. 

704
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:18,900
So I don't know. 
No. 

705
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,600
If I would need to have that 
metabolic flexibility in this 

706
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,200
day and age because I mean we're
not like we have we have an 

707
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,100
abundant food supply. 
Like we're all gonna survive and

708
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:30,100
be fine, you know, I can see 
like if an apocalypse or 

709
00:39:30,100 --> 00:39:32,100
something happen, though, I 
needed to be able to dip back 

710
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:33,800
into carbs that would make 
things much easier. 

711
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:35,400
Hmm. 
Yeah. 

712
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,900
Like of course, the best 
response to this sort of a first

713
00:39:39,900 --> 00:39:43,500
world problem crisis would be 
that you simply going too fast. 

714
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:48,600
Like that's one of the most best
biohackers or best strategies. 

715
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,200
Against these situations where 
you're not going to be able to 

716
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,500
eat Quito is to, you know, I'm 
simply not greet, you know? 

717
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:56,300
That's the simplest way, like, 
on keto. 

718
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:59,900
Your so fasting is so easy and 
it's so effective as well, 

719
00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:02,500
because you're going to 
literally be exclusively boring 

720
00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:05,800
only body fat when your 
incapacity ketosis. 

721
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,500
So like, that's, that's no 
problem in my opinion, as well. 

722
00:40:09,500 --> 00:40:14,800
Like, whenever I do have when 
I'm traveling or, or when I 

723
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,000
don't get to eat these optimal 
Foods, then I'm simply going to 

724
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,300
choose to The fast because it's 
what easier it's going to be 

725
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:22,900
more. 
It's gonna It's actually an 

726
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:26,600
opportunity to drive myself in 
deeper ketosis and, you know, 

727
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,600
rev and maybe like have an 
extended fast for several days, 

728
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,200
even so it's like an opportunity
to detoxify and cleanse the 

729
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,600
system as well. 
So that's a one of the best 

730
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,100
perks of Quito, I believe. 
Yeah, total agreement. 

731
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:40,500
That's why I like people will 
tell me. 

732
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:42,200
Oh, I didn't have any key tofu 
with me. 

733
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,000
So, I went ahead and cheated and
eat some carbs, and there's like

734
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,600
a, like, a three-hour window 
there. 

735
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:48,500
Something, you know, they might 
be like at the airport. 

736
00:40:48,500 --> 00:40:51,600
Have Layover for an hour and 
decided to eat garbage because 

737
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,400
it never think you do that. 
To me is like, just the biggest 

738
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,600
excuse ever. 
It's like you can be just fine. 

739
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,800
Wait, another few hours, you 
know? 

740
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,000
Like, that's, that's an option 
that yukito. 

741
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,300
So, take advantage of it. 
Yeah, you should be able to fast

742
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:06,100
for like a week straight with no
problem. 

743
00:41:06,100 --> 00:41:08,700
Even, even you. 
And I like, we're relatively, 

744
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,700
you know, like we still have a 
ton of calories stored on our 

745
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,800
body and we should be able to 
fast like immediately right now 

746
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,600
with no problems until the next 
week or something. 

747
00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:22,500
And we would be able to do it. 
Like it's you yourself had like 

748
00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,800
a extended fast experiment 
recent as well. 

749
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,800
And, you know, like it's very 
something that our body is 

750
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,500
supposed to be able to do, and 
we're not supposed to be freaked

751
00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,000
out. 
We're not supposed to freak out 

752
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,900
when we're not going to have our
next meal. 

753
00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:37,600
Yeah, I totally agree. 
Like I haven't planner them that

754
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,700
much but when I did that for day
fast are four and a half day 

755
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:44,300
fast, like I felt great. 
I felt amazing and I performed 

756
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:46,700
really good and I did all this 
was like very minimal sleep. 

757
00:41:46,700 --> 00:41:48,600
So that's kind of all kinds of 
measures on my body. 

758
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,100
But I mean it was it was not a 
big deal at all and in doing 

759
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:56,500
that it really kind of gave me 
more perspective of like, okay I

760
00:41:56,508 --> 00:41:59,200
don't need to lose my mind. 
If I'm if I'm not able to eat 

761
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:00,700
for a couple hours can be 
totally cool. 

762
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:03,900
I just went for days. 
So I think you know doing that 

763
00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:07,300
for that reason alone just to 
give people more perspective of 

764
00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:10,400
what they're capable of 
physically and mentally is 

765
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:14,100
hugely advantageous. 
Yeah definitely it's a huge 

766
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:18,000
confidence boost. 
I really like your you you you 

767
00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:20,900
start. 
To realize how powerful and how 

768
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:23,600
adaptable your body really is, 
and it kind of opens up New 

769
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,500
Perspectives of, you know what, 
I don't really need to eat that 

770
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,100
frequently. 
And you know what else? 

771
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:33,000
Got my body. 
Where else, where else do I have

772
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,700
this blind spots or well, as to 
have these weaknesses that are 

773
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,000
not taking advantage of, you 
know, maybe I don't know. 

774
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,800
Maybe I'm gonna spare a lot of 
money, maybe I can spare a ton 

775
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,200
of calories, maybe I can become 
more leaner, maybe I can be, 

776
00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:48,500
maybe I can use that time. 
I spent on meal. 

777
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:51,300
Prep and cooking and eating. 
Maybe I can spend that time 

778
00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,900
spending time with family or 
maybe I can spend it you know 

779
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:56,900
building a business or something
like that that opens up. 

780
00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,700
So many other doors in this 
sense. 

781
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:02,700
Yeah absolutely. 
I mean thinking of food as fuel 

782
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:06,400
and then eating it when 
necessary and not letting your 

783
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,300
life revolve around it, I think 
I mean that that's like probably

784
00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:15,000
the single biggest, you know, 
live switch that people need to,

785
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,900
you know, take take in and then 
take advantage of because Cuz I 

786
00:43:18,908 --> 00:43:20,800
mean that mean everything could 
benefit from that. 

787
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,500
Yeah, a lot of a lot of it, you 
know, sir, culture and Society 

788
00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:31,100
is, you know, it's mostly 
focused on entertainment food 

789
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:34,200
indulgences, pleasure, things 
like things like that. 

790
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,500
These are very immediate 
gratification Society is where 

791
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:41,300
we live and you know the it 
becomes a becomes an addiction 

792
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:46,400
for most people and simply like 
something to it's actually a way

793
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:48,500
of avoiding the responsibilities
do. 

794
00:43:48,700 --> 00:43:53,300
No, you're supposed to do, you 
know, like I'm not able to work,

795
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,100
I'm not able to, you know, do 
the things. 

796
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:57,900
I know I need to do because I 
haven't had my morning cup of 

797
00:43:57,908 --> 00:44:00,100
coffee. 
First, you know, I haven't had, 

798
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:04,500
I haven't had breakfast yet and 
I haven't, you know, I haven't 

799
00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:07,900
had, you know, whatever, 
whatever it may be, you just 

800
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:10,900
matter, you know, like you have 
to be able to do what, you know,

801
00:44:10,900 --> 00:44:13,900
you're going to have to do, 
despite the situation despite 

802
00:44:13,900 --> 00:44:16,500
the circumstances, and despite 
how you feel. 

803
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:18,500
Because you know, it's what 
you're supposed to do. 

804
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:21,000
Do and present in Green Bay and 
people. 

805
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:27,700
People need to be okay with 
going with out for a little 

806
00:44:27,700 --> 00:44:30,700
while, you know, and sacrifice. 
Like, people people don't want 

807
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:32,100
to sacrifice your say no to 
anything. 

808
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,800
And because of that, they have 
no mental fortitude, no 

809
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,300
discipline, and no results, you 
know. 

810
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,100
Yeah, that's true. 
What about like fasting? 

811
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,600
Intermittent fasting from like a
muscle building perspective and 

812
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,500
like extended fasting? 
Do you think that there's some 

813
00:44:49,100 --> 00:44:51,700
Some ways to leverage that or is
that going to be kind of more 

814
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:54,300
hindering towards building lean 
muscle tissue? 

815
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:02,300
The thing is like, fasting can 
make you lose muscle, but only 

816
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:07,400
if you, if, you know, do it in 
Us in outside of ketosis, if you

817
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,500
are in ketosis, if you manage to
get into ketosis faster than 

818
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:12,700
you're going to protect your 
muscle. 

819
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:16,800
And yeah, it's gonna prevent cut
catabolism. 

820
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,700
So the key is to get into 
ketosis as soon as possible. 

821
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:22,800
And you know the magic of Quito 
is that you're already in a semi

822
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,200
fastest ate most of the time, 
most of the time. 

823
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:30,300
So in terms of actually building
muscle, then it's not going to 

824
00:45:30,308 --> 00:45:32,600
directly make you anabolic in 
the sense. 

825
00:45:32,700 --> 00:45:36,300
But there is some evidence show 
that it boosts growth hormone. 

826
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:43,200
It's also increases one it 
increases one of the precursors 

827
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,700
of testosterone called 
luteinizing hormone. 

828
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:49,400
So like it has these anabolic 
effects if you couple it with 

829
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,500
proper feeding in the after you 
break the first. 

830
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000
So and you know of course 
there's the there's the thing 

831
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,200
that That, if you're doing 
extended fasts, then you're also

832
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,600
going to Res re boost your 
immune system. 

833
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,500
You're gonna push stem cell 
growth. 

834
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:07,200
You're going to repopulate, the 
good microbiome in your gut. 

835
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:10,300
And that's going to allow you to
absorb the nutrients from your 

836
00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:12,700
food a lot better. 
You know, the problem is never 

837
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:16,000
that your body doesn't have 
access to micronutrients or 

838
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,500
amino acids or proteins or 
thought stuff like that. 

839
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,600
The problem is that your body 
isn't very good at utilizing and

840
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,300
using them very efficiently. 
So, First thing is almost like a

841
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:30,300
reset button that, you know, 
helps to mobilize those minerals

842
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:32,900
stores helps to mobilize those 
micronutrients. 

843
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:36,800
And what I've done to notice is 
like, after I had my five day 

844
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,900
fast recently like the following
days, I feel so much more energy

845
00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:44,800
because during the fast I 
recycled a lot of the old 

846
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,800
worn-out waste material that 
gets accumulated in the body. 

847
00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:53,600
You know like this dying out 
cells cancer cells and those 

848
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,200
things they got they get my 
rematch. 

849
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:58,400
Stabilized into more energy. 
And after I break the first, 

850
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,000
then I can feel immediately like
a increase in my performance, 

851
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,000
increase in my mental acuity. 
And, you know, everything, 

852
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,000
improves. 
And that's, that's, I believe, 

853
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:11,800
like, it can be used as a way of
extended fast for, like, let's 

854
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,900
say, three to five days, they 
can be like anabolic catalysts 

855
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:18,600
almost if you could call it 
that, that they're gonna create 

856
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,900
this proper hormonal, milieu, 
and it's going to allow you to 

857
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:25,200
mobilize the micronutrients a 
lot better after you. 

858
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:26,400
Dating. 
Yeah, no. 

859
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,000
I can accidentally get behind 
that. 

860
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,400
There's there's, there's no, 
it's got more of an indirect 

861
00:47:31,500 --> 00:47:34,600
effect, but a very profound 
effect, nonetheless. 

862
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,000
I mean what, which honestly is 
holds true with so many Concepts

863
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,300
around nutrition and training. 
There's not like you know 

864
00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:44,400
there's not often times not a 
direct reflection of, okay? 

865
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,800
Do this? 
And this is the result like 

866
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,500
everything's kind of symbiotic 
and works together nature. 

867
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:52,100
So if you can leverage fasting 
to improve the efficiency of the

868
00:47:52,107 --> 00:47:56,400
body, so that when you do 
introduce food it, As you know, 

869
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,700
better ability to be absorbed 
and used for, you know, muscle 

870
00:47:59,700 --> 00:48:01,800
tissue growth, then you're 
coming out. 

871
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Way ahead. 
Even if the actual Act of 

872
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,300
fasting is, is not anabolic in 
the shorter. 

873
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,100
Yeah, right. 
And I've, of course, like you 

874
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,900
wouldn't be, you wouldn't be 
able to get away with it, if you

875
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:16,800
cannot, you know, fast all the 
time, you would want to do it 

876
00:48:16,808 --> 00:48:21,100
like intermittently and actually
actually allow your body to 

877
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:24,700
recover and nourish itself. 
Right, right, what do you think 

878
00:48:24,700 --> 00:48:26,900
about? 
I haven't really dug into this 

879
00:48:26,900 --> 00:48:30,800
too deeply, but there's, there's
an argument that, you know, your

880
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,200
growth hormone is going to be 
increased if you fast for like 

881
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,800
two hours, post training, and 
then you should eat after that 

882
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:40,100
like you. 
Do you find much Merit in that? 

883
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,900
Hmm. 
I think it's I think it depends 

884
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:48,500
on what kind of training did you
do and whether or not you're 

885
00:48:48,500 --> 00:48:52,300
breaking up in a fasted State? 
Like I do believe like high 

886
00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:54,000
intensity? 
Well, we know that like 

887
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,700
resistance training and high 
Citee interval training, they 

888
00:48:56,700 --> 00:49:01,100
can boost growth hormone and 
like if you do have like a 

889
00:49:01,107 --> 00:49:04,900
post-workout Shake immediately 
or if you eat right away after a

890
00:49:04,908 --> 00:49:08,400
workout then it may actually 
indeed like blunt some of the 

891
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,700
hormetic response of adaptation 
because you need you need to 

892
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:18,400
actually experience slightly 
more care about catabolic stress

893
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,400
and the hormesis in general to 
to allow your muscles and your 

894
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,700
nervous system to adapt to that 
kind of stress. 

895
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,600
So, It's did like a very I do 
believe. 

896
00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:30,700
Like, it's a good idea to fast, 
you know, at least one to two 

897
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:33,500
hours after a workout just to 
allow your first of all to 

898
00:49:33,500 --> 00:49:37,100
court, you allow your cortisol 
levels to settle down and also 

899
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:40,700
yeah, like make your put your 
body into a situation where 

900
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:43,300
like, okay, we have to actually 
mobilize more. 

901
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:45,100
We have to, yeah? 
Right. 

902
00:49:45,500 --> 00:49:49,300
It's, it's a signal that were in
danger and we have to take 

903
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:51,400
advantage. 
We were like, we have to prepare

904
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,500
in advance, you know, maybe it's
going to, we're going to get 

905
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:57,600
another hit and that That's like
a signal in this sense of if you

906
00:49:57,607 --> 00:50:00,200
were to eat right away, then 
you're going to shut down that 

907
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,800
signal, right? 
And it's it's going to prevent 

908
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,500
the adaptation. 
So no need to slam protein 

909
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:07,800
shakes immediately post for 
again. 

910
00:50:08,700 --> 00:50:10,300
Well yeah. 
Like the problem. 

911
00:50:10,300 --> 00:50:12,900
The problem is that these 
supplements, these BCAAs and 

912
00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:16,200
Whey proteins. 
They only they are only were 

913
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:20,100
supposed to work on an on keto 
diet where indeed, like if 

914
00:50:20,100 --> 00:50:22,000
you're not Kira adapted, then 
it's true. 

915
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,100
You're gonna experience a lot of
muscle mass. 

916
00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:26,700
You're going to experience 
Experience gluconeogenesis, if 

917
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:31,100
you skip meals and yeah, like 
keto simply takes out all of the

918
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,400
all of the fragile components of
nutrition. 

919
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:38,400
And the sense it's going to make
your body more robust and more 

920
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,900
effective technology noise. 
I think so many people are 

921
00:50:41,900 --> 00:50:46,000
making the mistake of trying to 
intertwine. 

922
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,400
A lot of what works with a 
carbohydrate based diet into 

923
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,400
Aikido based diet. 
And this is honestly just no 

924
00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:56,200
need for like that, it wants at 
me and Just browse this 

925
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,600
announcers and overthinking 
things because so many of those 

926
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,800
variables are just removed from 
the equation and they don't need

927
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,300
to be reintroduced Wiki do. 
Yeah, that's, that's true. 

928
00:51:05,300 --> 00:51:08,500
Yeah. 
So, what about what about, any 

929
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:09,900
biohacking experiments you get 
going on? 

930
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:12,400
Now, is there anything that 
you're currently digging deep 

931
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:19,400
into? 
The one of the most one thing 

932
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,200
that is very intriguing for me 
at the moment. 

933
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:26,100
These like red light therapy. 
It's quite an emerging field and

934
00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,300
it's gaining a lot of popularity
recently. 

935
00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:33,600
And the idea is that these 
specific wavelengths of infrared

936
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,900
and far infrared, light, they're
gonna penetrate deep into the 

937
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:40,300
tissue much, rather much more 
than other other wavelengths. 

938
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,200
And it's going to stimulate, 
mitochondrial, biogenesis. 

939
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,900
Going to boost, you know, to 
start their own in men. 

940
00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:48,700
If you shine it on your 
testicles, it's going to reduce 

941
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:51,700
inflammation promote collagen 
synthesis as well. 

942
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,800
So it's like in general, it's 
very healthy and anti-aging 

943
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,900
benefits. 
So I've been using this sort of 

944
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:03,100
red light device that every 
morning for, like, I would say 

945
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:07,200
10 to 20 minutes. 
And it's very, it's a good for 

946
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,000
the Circadian rhythm as well 
because it stimulates some of 

947
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,200
the beneficial wavelengths of of
the Sun. 

948
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,600
Not Entirely but you know, at 
least some degree. 

949
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,300
So that's something I've been 
experimenting with the. 

950
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,500
You can you feel any different 
because it like a pretty long 

951
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:23,500
term approach that you can 
actually have to feel something 

952
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:27,100
different with it. 
I do notice like the N8 my 

953
00:52:27,100 --> 00:52:30,500
energy levels throughout the day
are more stable and you know, 

954
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:35,600
you doing feel less inflamed, 
less sore and it's a very 

955
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,400
pleasing like experience as 
well. 

956
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:44,500
The the waves are the, the light
waves are kinda But warm, you 

957
00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:47,300
can feel the warmth almost if 
you shine it on your skin or 

958
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,000
your face. 
My gym actually has one element 

959
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,200
that I never use. 
It them until the jump in there.

960
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:55,900
Give it a shot. 
Wow, so definitely go into. 

961
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,500
Yeah, I've got that. 
I've got seven different gym 

962
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,000
memberships and one of them is 
Planet Fitness it, because 

963
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,200
they're the only ones that have 
functional stairmasters and they

964
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,800
Market the, the red light 
therapy as a total body 

965
00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:13,200
recomposition and muscle 
building machine. 

966
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:15,300
So I think a lot of these people
are just jump in there. 

967
00:53:15,300 --> 00:53:18,200
Thinking they're gonna open the 
door, walk in and staying there 

968
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,500
for 10 minutes then walk out 
with abs or something, which is 

969
00:53:21,500 --> 00:53:25,600
a probably not accurate. 
But yeah, so you're saying that 

970
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,600
the Magnus effect that would be 
highly advantageous. 

971
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,900
Yeah, definitely I remember like
I went to Planet Fitness during 

972
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:35,600
my trip to the states. 
A few months back and you know, 

973
00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:38,600
it was quite an interesting 
experience like I didn't I 

974
00:53:38,600 --> 00:53:40,300
didn't get to do like a very 
good. 

975
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:43,400
I didn't have a hat on or 
awesome workout in this sense. 

976
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,700
Dumbbells and stuff. 
But you know there wasn't much 

977
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:50,500
much weight to be moved around 
and and and the environment was 

978
00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:52,600
also like very politically 
correct. 

979
00:53:53,300 --> 00:53:57,400
Yeah. 100% men like they don't 
have barbells or even squat 

980
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,400
racks. 
I think it's all a Smith 

981
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,200
machine, which I know nothing 
knocked them as a gym or any 

982
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,200
means, you know, they're trying 
to just, you know, be safe and 

983
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,200
yeah, I guess barbells are and 
squat racks a bit more 

984
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:09,300
dangerous. 
If the person's an educator, how

985
00:54:09,308 --> 00:54:12,000
to use them. 
But Yeah, they wouldn't let me 

986
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,500
lift. 
They're like, I want a lift. 

987
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,700
Yeah, it gets the work. 
It gets the job done. 

988
00:54:16,700 --> 00:54:19,900
But yeah, it's for like the 
other, it's for the average 

989
00:54:19,900 --> 00:54:24,400
person who simply was kind of 
treadmill treadmill themselves 

990
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,200
while watching, you know, some 
shows on the TV. 

991
00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:28,400
Yeah. 
For sure, for sure. 

992
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,200
But anything's better than not 
doing anything, you know, I 

993
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,200
mean, you know, more power to 
the people there that are off 

994
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,700
the couch and in the gym. 
Well, very cool man. 

995
00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:39,700
Very cool. 
What, what, what people go to 

996
00:54:39,700 --> 00:54:42,100
find out more about you, man. 
Get out several books out, you 

997
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:44,900
get your blog. 
Like I want people to find you 

998
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:47,100
and learn about all these 
biohacking experience you got 

999
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:50,400
going on. 
Yeah, like I've written several 

1000
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:54,800
books about Quito and fasting. 
You can find them on Amazon, 

1001
00:54:55,500 --> 00:54:59,000
the, the best or the biggest one
is key do bodybuilding. 

1002
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:03,200
Then there's key to fasting. 
And you know, there's also like 

1003
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,600
different books about the 
targeted keto diet and the 

1004
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:10,700
secret keto diet, but my website
is also seemed Lund.com. 

1005
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,000
I write articles about, you 
know, biohacking, human 

1006
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,800
optimization and, you know, some
book reviews and stuff like 

1007
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,800
that. 
And my biggest He's also 

1008
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,000
probably lock my YouTube. 
Seem Lund and vodka. 

1009
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,300
I have a podcast that it's 
called the body-mind 

1010
00:55:25,300 --> 00:55:28,900
empowerment. 
And we talked about similar 

1011
00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:33,200
stuff about Quito and nutrition 
and becoming superhuman. 

1012
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,600
As I like to call it in general.
So those are what are those 

1013
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,700
where people can find me. 
Awesome, awesome. 

1014
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:44,000
I'll link at how those is what 
how do you say 23:23 as arson 

1015
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,600
that you're doing this man? 
And like you know, that's a 

1016
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,200
young age honest, I mean you 
gotta like a lot. 

1017
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:49,600
Of a lot of future lives in 
this. 

1018
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,100
I mean, the fact that you've 
got, you know, your content 

1019
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:55,200
creation, you're pumping out 
articles, you get your books, 

1020
00:55:56,200 --> 00:56:00,200
the podcast, the blog, the 
videos, I mean yeah, this is 

1021
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,600
awesome. 
I'm excited for you gotta you 

1022
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,500
gotta super bright future. 
Well yeah definitely I feel 

1023
00:56:05,500 --> 00:56:08,800
fortunate for having you know, 
this kind of an opportunity 

1024
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,200
myself because you had a lot of 
people. 

1025
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:14,800
They do say like that you're so 
young and it's very interesting 

1026
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:18,200
or it's very yeah you should be 
very grateful for for having me 

1027
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:22,800
Kind of Revelations so far. 
And I'm mostly I credited to 

1028
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:27,900
gratitude in a sense that I've 
deeply contemplated about, you 

1029
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:31,400
know, how fortunate is for us to
live in this kind of day and age

1030
00:56:31,500 --> 00:56:34,800
and what it means to be human at
the moment and how many 

1031
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:39,100
opportunities we actually have? 
You know, there's no reasons to 

1032
00:56:39,700 --> 00:56:43,700
do, you know, hit the snooze or 
two, you know, Skip a workout 

1033
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,000
just because you feel lazy 
because you know, it's a huge 

1034
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,100
privilege in the sense in 
nature, you would die. 

1035
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:50,800
Hi, if you did something like 
that and you know, that's that. 

1036
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,000
What keeps you keeps me going? 
That is super, super cool man. 

1037
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,800
Like I want to First add a 
little bit more that. 

1038
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,800
I mean the freaking just gave me
goosebumps mainly because 

1039
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,300
people, you're absolutely right 
people. 

1040
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,500
They don't take advantage of all
the opportunities that we have 

1041
00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:07,900
and we have it so good right 
now. 

1042
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:11,900
Like this, this is an 
opportunity in which anybody can

1043
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,500
pretty much build a life for 
themselves with nothing more 

1044
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:17,900
than their cell phone. 
And yes, exactly. 

1045
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,700
If you just stop and take a 
moment, think about that, to not

1046
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,400
leverage that opportunity and 
not make the most of every 

1047
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:27,400
freakin waking moment. 
You have on this planet then 

1048
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,300
then you're doing a disservice 
to yourself and others. 

1049
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:33,400
Yeah. 
And not only for yourself and 

1050
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:36,200
but, you know, your future 
Generations as well. 

1051
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,600
Like what are you going to say 
to your grandchildren? 

1052
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,800
If they ask you like why didn't 
you take advantage of it to know

1053
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,200
how I how we going to explain 
yourself. 

1054
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:47,000
Like it's crazy. 
Like you're supposed to be. 

1055
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,900
Actually not doing it for you. 
Yourself but you know, for your 

1056
00:57:50,100 --> 00:57:51,800
children and grandchildren a 
future. 

1057
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:55,900
Now I as it's freaking awesome. 
I love how you just get me fired

1058
00:57:55,900 --> 00:58:00,200
up again here, like the whole 
concept of you know, like I 

1059
00:58:00,207 --> 00:58:03,100
don't expect everybody to want 
to build a business or being 

1060
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:04,800
entrepreneur. 
Like I'm not asking anybody to 

1061
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:05,900
do that. 
They don't want like if they're 

1062
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:08,400
happy and they're content in 
their life, then then more power

1063
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,500
to him. 
But at the same time, like I 

1064
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:16,100
don't necessarily think it's 
like enough to just get by and 

1065
00:58:16,100 --> 00:58:18,600
do what makes you happy. 
Get it. 

1066
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,100
Like I think it's important and 
I think it's admirable to think 

1067
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:24,500
of life in a grander scale than 
just you alone. 

1068
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,600
Like what you have this 
opportunity, you're alive and 

1069
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,600
well and healthy. 
And you've been put on this 

1070
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,400
planet. 
I think it's important to try 

1071
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,400
and go through life in terms of,
you know, adding more value than

1072
00:58:35,400 --> 00:58:37,100
you take. 
It's not it's not good enough to

1073
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,500
just simply exist. 
Like I think you need to leave 

1074
00:58:39,700 --> 00:58:42,500
this world, bringing more into 
it, more positivity into it 

1075
00:58:42,500 --> 00:58:44,900
than, than it was there before 
you came, you know. 

1076
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,700
Yeah, yeah. 
And you have to have you, you 

1077
00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:50,400
have to have I'm sort of a 
purpose or some sort of a 

1078
00:58:50,408 --> 00:58:52,900
meaning, you know, towards which
you build. 

1079
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,200
And, you know, it may not be 
like, it doesn't have to be a 

1080
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,000
business. 
You don't have to be Elon Musk 

1081
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,700
taking us to Mars. 
It may be like, improving your 

1082
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:03,900
local community and growing up 
your, or raising your children, 

1083
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:06,400
or whatever it may be. 
Like, bringing a smile to a 

1084
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,800
stranger's face, or whatever it 
may be just to contribute back 

1085
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,300
to the world. 
Amen. 100%, what, what, what, 

1086
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,500
what is your purpose? 
Like, if you had to Define your 

1087
00:59:17,500 --> 00:59:19,600
legacy, you Want to leave. 
What would you say? 

1088
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,600
That's a deep question. 
I put you on the spot there. 

1089
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:29,600
Well like I would say like, as 
I'm as a race as a society or 

1090
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,500
less as Humanity. 
We're standing at the doorstep 

1091
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:36,700
of this massive Quantum Leap in 
our Evolution because of, you 

1092
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:43,000
know, biotech and Ai. 
And this different massive 

1093
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,000
disruptions that are going to 
happen in our culture overall. 

1094
00:59:47,300 --> 00:59:50,800
And what I do, I tried to do is 
to make sure that we're not 

1095
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,300
going to mess things up that 
we're not going to get killed by

1096
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:59,200
robots and that we're not going 
to accidentally, you know, get 

1097
00:59:59,300 --> 01:00:02,400
diabetes or, you know, 
accidentally bioenergy a 

1098
01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:05,600
bioengineer our genes in a wrong
way that's going to, you know, 

1099
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,000
make things worse. 
So, that's what I'm trying to 

1100
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,200
make sure that we won't miss 
things up. 

1101
01:00:10,700 --> 01:00:11,800
I like it, man. 
I like it. 

1102
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:13,700
I think don't want you doing 
anything. 

1103
01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:16,200
You didn't 100% the right way, 
you know, you got the right 

1104
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,100
Outlook, you get time on your 
side. 

1105
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:20,600
And you're you're hustling 
because you know you got an 

1106
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,700
opportunity in front of you and 
that's as a lot to be said about

1107
01:00:23,700 --> 01:00:24,000
that. 
Man. 

1108
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:27,000
I'm I'm proud of you. 
No thanks man. 

1109
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,500
Like I'm definitely I'm very 
excited for your journey as 

1110
01:00:30,500 --> 01:00:32,300
well. 
Like it's you are like 

1111
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pioneering the field of you know
human performance in the sense 

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of how to use Quito and how much
how much more adaptable and 

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Powerful. 
Our body actually is appreciate 

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me. 
I don't know if I'm panicking 

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but I'm trying to do something. 
I feel I feel good about what 

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01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,300
I'm doing. 
I feel It can make it will 

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01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:51,800
influence. 
I don't know many people who 

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can, you know, eat like only 65 
grams of protein on a contest 

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prep and still still win the 
thing. 

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So you doing something right? 
I appreciate me. 

1121
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:02,600
Yeah, we'll keep, we'll keep 
refining as we go, Crystal my 

1122
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,100
girlfriend. 
She's it 30 grams of protein 

1123
01:01:05,100 --> 01:01:08,300
right now, man, that's good. 
Yeah, yeah, it's and she's been 

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01:01:08,300 --> 01:01:11,200
prepping for 21 weeks, and she 
hasn't lost any muscle and 30 

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,900
grams of protein like that. 
Miss just, the blows my mind. 

1126
01:01:13,900 --> 01:01:15,300
Like, there's so much, we don't 
know. 

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01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:17,900
We don't know about the human 
body nutrition. 

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01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:20,500
Like There's so many things that
are just coming out and we're 

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01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:22,500
discovering on a day-to-day 
basis that really make you 

1130
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:26,300
rethink what is right, you know.
Yeah. 

1131
01:01:26,900 --> 01:01:28,500
Which is exciting. 
That's that's that's kind of 

1132
01:01:28,508 --> 01:01:30,300
like going back to the 
opportunity that we have right 

1133
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:31,700
now. 
Just taking advantage of it. 

1134
01:01:32,300 --> 01:01:35,000
So friendly, and it's exciting 
times. 

1135
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,300
Absolutely. 
Well, then let's definitely stay

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in touch, man. 
I'm excited to see what you got 

1137
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,700
going on in the future and I'll 
definitely link out to all your 

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01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:43,400
social channels and your 
website. 

1139
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,300
So people can follow the your 
journey along as well. 

1140
01:01:46,100 --> 01:01:48,100
Definitely, I was supposed to 
talking to her life. 

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01:01:48,300 --> 01:01:49,300
Quiet air take came in.