1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Well, hello ladies and gents, Robert Sykes, Keto, savage.com. 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:05,080 And today I've got a special guest, Stephanie Morial on the 3 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:08,920 line. her and I heard Cousin Jake started a company called 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,160 Tri Troupe. They make mushrooms that they 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,320 create and put in these gummies and they've got several 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,800 different mushroom strains. They've got Lion's Mane, Chaga, 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:21,800 Cordyceps, all the good stuff from a neurological standpoint, 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:24,720 from a performance standpoint. And I just wanted to dive deeper 9 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,720 into their story as a company, their entrepreneurial ventures, 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,800 what got them into the mushroom business and just kind of learn 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:33,920 more about these different mushrooms and how the active 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,360 compounds in them can be beneficial from a neurological 13 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,400 standpoint, Recovery, rest and recuperation. 14 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,120 So just kind of learn a little bit more about mushrooms so 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,160 thoroughly enjoy the conversation and get no doubt 16 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:47,440 that y'all take something from it without further delay. 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,520 Sit back, relax, enjoy the conversation with Stephanie 18 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,320 and we are live. Stephanie, how are you today? 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,120 I'm great. How are you? 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,480 I'm doing wonderful well, so I'm excited to chat with you all 21 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:10,120 about mushrooms. I've actually had a few people 22 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,000 on the podcast talking about mushrooms here lately. 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,960 One of my employees is big into growing his own mushrooms, so 24 00:01:14,960 --> 00:01:19,040 this is something I've kind of been exposed to indirectly, but 25 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,520 am not really well versed in, so I'm excited to be enlightened by 26 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,880 you. Oh yeah, absolutely. 27 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,280 It's very exciting to start growing your own mushrooms. 28 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,680 I'm sure he's he won't stop talking about it. 29 00:01:30,960 --> 00:01:33,080 Yeah, he he's got like the grow tent. 30 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:35,720 He's got, like, he literally just bought a house with five 31 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,240 bedrooms. And four of the five bedrooms 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:38,840 are all gonna be dedicated mushroom rooms. 33 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:40,960 Oh my God. Wow. 34 00:01:40,960 --> 00:01:43,200 That's epic. Pretty intense, but give me some 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,200 back story on y'all. Like what? 36 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,120 What got you into the the mushroom business? 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,800 Yeah totally. So I Co founded troupe with my 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:54,920 cousin Jake and it all started during COVID actually he got 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:59,840 into a ski accident and broke his leg and on that same day was 40 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,400 the day of lockdown in California and I was working in 41 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,200 hotels and all my hotels shut down. 42 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:11,000 And so when Jay came back from skiing I offered to move in with 43 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,280 him and his parents help take care of his leg. 44 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:18,880 And during that time, I read this book that really introduced 45 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,360 me to mushrooms. And I I had taken mushrooms 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,960 before I had heard about them. But just kind of whispers. 47 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:30,120 And reading this book, I didn't realize that it was this really 48 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,280 powerful medicine that's been used in cultures all around the 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:38,040 world for thousands of years. And I felt like I had kind of 50 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,760 discovered this ancient secret. So it's a middle of COVID. 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,160 We're not really doing too much. And I turned to Jake and I said, 52 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,080 do you want to start growing mushrooms with me? 53 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,080 And without hesitation, he said yes. 54 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,120 And the rest just really organically unfolded from there? 55 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,120 I love it. I feel like the businesses that 56 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,720 are founded out of one's desire to scratch their own itch is 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,800 always the best business, and it certainly makes for the best 58 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:07,120 story. 100% and I think a lot of that was it's giving yourself 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,440 permission and time to scratch that itch. 60 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:13,320 And I was always one of those people where I was. 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,480 I was like, I don't know if I'm ever going to find my passion 62 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,880 and I had worked a bunch of different really cool 63 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,920 interesting jobs but nothing that ever really fulfilled me. 64 00:03:22,920 --> 00:03:28,120 And looking back at my journey, it's it's so it just happened so 65 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:32,520 easily when you let yourself explore and be a beginner. 100 66 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:36,000 percent, 100% So for people that are not well versed in 67 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,880 mushrooms, when they hear people talk about them, they 68 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,880 automatically think of. Psilocybin. 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,520 Just automatically where their brain goes, but there. 70 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,960 Is 100%. A tremendous array of different 71 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,120 mushrooms with different, you know, capabilities. 72 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,520 You've got nootropic lines. You've got mushrooms to consume 73 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,520 from a dietary standpoint. So just kind of peel the curtain 74 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,280 back on what are mushrooms? How, how can they're, how can 75 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,040 they be efficacious? What are some different use case 76 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:04,560 scenarios for mushrooms and how can people incorporate them? 77 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Yeah, totally. So mushrooms are actually part 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,320 of their own Kingdom. They're part of the fungi 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,720 Kingdom. So mushrooms there's. 80 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:17,040 Yes, it's so true. Even when I go do demo testing 81 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:19,399 for troop at a grocery store, people think that they're 82 00:04:19,399 --> 00:04:22,720 psilocybin mushrooms, and it's not uncommon. 83 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Everyone's mind always goes to psilocybin or what people call 84 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:28,560 magic mushrooms. So those mushrooms have 85 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,800 psychedelic properties that can be also extremely healing and 86 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,240 beneficial and I definitely believe are part of the future 87 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,440 of health. And then you have gourmet 88 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,400 mushrooms which are used in the kitchen. 89 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,840 Mushrooms like maitaki, enoki, shiitake. 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,880 Some of these mushrooms can also be what are called medicinal 91 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:55,440 mushrooms and these are mushrooms like reishi and chaga 92 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,560 and Cordyceps that can be used for as supplements basically for 93 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,480 brain functionality, brain protection, gut health immunity, 94 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:09,240 anti inflammation and and so much more. 95 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,080 And those are the mushrooms that we work with at Troupe. 96 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,240 And there's some overlap for sure with the functional and the 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,160 gourmet mushrooms, which is super cool like lion's mane you 98 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,080 can eat and is also an incredible nootropic. 99 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:25,480 So the lions can be a little bit blurred there. 100 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:32,000 But a good distinction is the functional mushrooms have also 101 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,320 incredible benefits for your health and Wellness. 102 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,880 Gotcha, gotcha. And when it comes to mushrooms, 103 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,080 like they, I've heard that they like, breathe. 104 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,800 Like when you're talking about them being pretty related to us 105 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,680 humans, like they have like a respiration or something, right? 106 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,600 Yeah, absolutely. And yeah, they they do have a 107 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:54,920 respiration and we're so close to them like genetically too. 108 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,480 And mushrooms have been around for thousands of years pre 109 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,560 dating humans. And it's just interesting that 110 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:05,840 as we grow, as the planet has changed so much, mushrooms have 111 00:06:05,840 --> 00:06:09,160 always been there. Yeah, So can you kind of peel 112 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,920 the curtain back on? What is the, I guess the the 113 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:16,480 conditions necessary for mushrooms to to grow? 114 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Like a lot of people you know, they'll they'll be walking 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,000 around outside and they'll see some mushrooms growing after 116 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,880 it's been, you know rainy. There's a lot of, you know, fog 117 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:24,600 in the air. Like what? 118 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:26,520 What is the perfect environment for mushrooms? 119 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,600 Cause certain areas have them natively and and some not so 120 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,320 much. Yes. 121 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,160 So mushrooms need moisture for sure. 122 00:06:35,280 --> 00:06:39,040 And when you're growing them at the house, a lot of people think 123 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,080 that they need a lot of darkness, but that's actually 124 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,040 not true. We would just let our mushrooms 125 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:46,960 be in the open 'cause they need sunlight as well. 126 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,120 So you just kind of think of where am I finding mushrooms? 127 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,160 You're finding them a lot in the Pacific Northwest, you find 128 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,040 chaga. In Alaska, a lot of mushrooms 129 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:00,600 will grow on trees or on logs. So just kind of think of where 130 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:04,560 are you finding these mushrooms and what is the natural weather 131 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,920 systems over there? And it's usually moisture. 132 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,880 And you you definitely do need some sunlight. 133 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,760 And there are certain mushrooms that will totally put you out 134 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:15,640 for the count. Like you. 135 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:17,920 You can't just go pick up any random mushroom and eat it 136 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,360 without some precautions. Like certain certain mushrooms 137 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:22,680 will absolutely kill you. Correct. 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,040 Oh, absolutely, yeah. And I think that is part of the 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 reason why people are scared of mushrooms. 140 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,240 They're very few and far between the ones that can kill you. 141 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:36,600 But a little anecdote is I organized a mushroom foraging 142 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:41,560 event for us here in Los Angeles, in the the Santa Monica 143 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,720 Mountains for a troop, and we were led by a professional 144 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,680 mushroom forager and also chef, and he took us around to the 145 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,160 spots that he knows very well. We put together this scavenger 146 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,000 hunt of what mushrooms you would find, and there are about 16 147 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,120 mushrooms just in that area and we found about 12 of them. 148 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,960 One of them was actually poisonous and could kill you. 149 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,560 I believe it was called the Angel of Death or something 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:10,760 along those lines, and it looked very similar to an edible 151 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,200 mushroom. So it just goes to show you that 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,600 you definitely do want to be careful when you're picking up 153 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,120 mushrooms from the ground. You want to be certain that you 154 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,480 know what you're picking up, otherwise it can be a little bit 155 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,680 dangerous. And out of curiosity, you know 156 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:27,760 what the mechanism is within that mushroom that that causes 157 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:29,160 death? Like is it asphyxiation or 158 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,120 what's the what's the driver there? 159 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,600 I don't remember of that particular one which one it was. 160 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:39,679 I want to say it had something to do with the with the liver, 161 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,880 but I I could be wrong. Yeah, it's it's kind of scary. 162 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,080 Like when you don't know what you're what you're getting into. 163 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,080 It can be definitely worthwhile to have a guide with you that 164 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,400 knows what they're doing. Oh 100%. 165 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,080 I would never trust myself going out and foraging just because 166 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,840 there are just so many mushrooms out there and I like to be led 167 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,280 and guided in this situation for sure. 168 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,680 Can you talk to me a little bit about the the process of 169 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,720 producing your own mushrooms in house like with my employee he's 170 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:14,280 got, like I said, these grow tents, he's got them in like 171 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,320 bags of sawdust. He's got like a a blow hood, 172 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,040 like he's got all this stuff that is all Greek to me. 173 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,680 So what? What does that process look like 174 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:23,920 from start to finish? Yeah. 175 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,040 So on a very beginner scale, what you're doing is you're 176 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:32,400 usually purchasing some kind of spore and spores are these 177 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:37,640 microscopic particles that mushrooms release out and that's 178 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:42,200 how they they re populate. So it's their reproductive 179 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,880 system basically. So you buy these spores and they 180 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,040 come in in a syringe or something like that usually. 181 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,160 And then what you do is you do something called inoculation, 182 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:55,400 which is when you take the spore and you put it in with the food 183 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,360 that it's going to be eating the substrate. 184 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:01,720 So depending on the mushroom, it can be a different type of food. 185 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:08,240 So reishi usually grows on logs. Other mushrooms like lion's 186 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,360 mane, can grow on some sort of rice substrate. 187 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,120 So it just really depends on the mushroom. 188 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:18,880 So yes, you inoculate your substrate or your mushroom food 189 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,960 and then what happens is this mycelium starts to grow. 190 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,800 And the mycelium in nature is this underground root structure 191 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:30,280 of the mushroom and it also connects the mushroom to the 192 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,360 ecosystem of wherever it's going. 193 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,640 So the trees and other plants and things like that. 194 00:10:36,560 --> 00:10:40,760 But in A at home growing setting, your mycelium is eating 195 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,560 all of this mushroom food, all of this substrate, and it's 196 00:10:43,560 --> 00:10:47,000 colonizing. And what's it colonizes? 197 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,680 Your mushroom will you'll I'm sorry, you'll take this. 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,840 You could do two different ways. Usually you could take it and 199 00:10:54,840 --> 00:10:57,680 put it in a tub and it will the mushroom will grow. 200 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,960 Or if you're in the bag, what you would do is you would cut an 201 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:05,040 X through the bag and then your mushroom will start to grow out 202 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,080 of the side of the bag. Once it's fully colonized, and 203 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,520 you know that it's fully colonized when it's completely 204 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,080 white, the grain will have turned white. 205 00:11:16,680 --> 00:11:19,320 Gotcha, gotcha. Now, I know a lot of like, I'd 206 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:23,760 love for you to kind of paint a picture as to what companies are 207 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,880 doing, 'cause I feel like mushrooms have gotten a lot more 208 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,120 popular as of late. And with that, there's a lot 209 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,360 more companies, you know, sprouting up, so to speak, and 210 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,040 and selling mushrooms. And with that there's a lot of 211 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,600 people cutting corners and selling you know products that 212 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,400 are marketed as, you know, mushroom extracts that also 213 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,800 contain a lot of this mycelium and filler stuff which I'm 214 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,920 assuming is just the, the non active, you know, filler that 215 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,320 it's grown in. But it's not really. 216 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,360 It doesn't really have any beneficial properties. 217 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,200 Yeah, exactly. So going back to the growing 218 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,040 example, the underground root structure of the mushroom is 219 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:03,240 called mycelium and the part that grows above the ground or 220 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:05,440 out of the bag is called the fruiting body. 221 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,480 And when you are in a lab setting and you take this 222 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:13,240 mycelium, it has a lot of the grain that it was grown on, 223 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,480 usually some sort of rice. And so it's very, you can't 224 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,320 separate it. So even though the mycelium 225 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:24,880 probably has and does have some beneficial compounds, you're 226 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,160 grinding it up with all of this starch with all of this rice 227 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:32,000 material. So it really dilutes the 228 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,760 mycelium and you're basically getting a a starch filler mix 229 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,600 versus the fruiting body, which is where most of the 230 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,520 bioavailable compounds are stored. 231 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:44,320 It's a longer process, it's more expensive and you have to 232 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:49,080 extract out the compounds. So it's a a way more expensive 233 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,640 product and that's why a lot of companies are cutting corners 234 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:57,680 and selling you a mycelium based product and not even telling you 235 00:12:57,680 --> 00:12:59,800 where their mushrooms are grown or anything like that. 236 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,560 And so when we got into the industry, we knew that we wanted 237 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:07,200 to be a fruiting body product and at least will extracted. 238 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,800 We actually have a patent pending triple extraction method 239 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,800 that we've been doing now and we work very closely with our 240 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:17,760 testing company to continuously develop and be testing these 241 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,520 extractions. So it's it's definitely 242 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,040 important to know if you're getting a fruiting body product 243 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:27,200 and if it's extracted and also you want to know where your 244 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,360 mushrooms are coming from. A lot of people, a lot of 245 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,120 companies get their mushrooms from China and there can be 246 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:37,720 pollutants in the water or chemicals that get sucked into 247 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,360 these mushrooms because mushrooms are 90% water and so 248 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,680 it can be dangerous to get mushrooms from China. 249 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:49,840 So we just we knew we needed to be all organic mushrooms grown 250 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:51,600 in the USI. Love it. 251 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,440 I love it. And I would assume any company 252 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,600 that's selling mushroom products would want to make known the 253 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,560 fact that they're using the fruiting body, so they would 254 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:00,320 likely disclose that on the label. 255 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,760 So if if people are looking for mushrooms and it doesn't say 256 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:05,600 anything about, you know, it being a fruiting body product, 257 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,320 if it's just kind of left blank, then that would probably not be 258 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:14,640 the company you'd want to go with. 100% And also the price 259 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,360 point, I mean, if you're getting them for 10-12 dollars, I would 260 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,840 definitely do your research on where these mushrooms are coming 261 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,760 from. And there are some big brands 262 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:25,640 that are getting their mushrooms from China. 263 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,120 And I I definitely think, you know, if you're putting 264 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,160 something in your body, it's very important to know where 265 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,560 it's coming from. Yeah, 100% agree there. 266 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,680 How does the extraction process work? 267 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,880 So once you have the mushroom, the fruiting body that's coming 268 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:41,560 out of this bag, Like does that fruiting body dehydrated? 269 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,320 Is it freeze dried? Is it like like is there an oil 270 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,360 base that's extract out of it? Like how does that work? 271 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:52,320 So you need to do at least a hot water and an alcohol extraction 272 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,680 because there are fat and water soluble compounds inside of the 273 00:14:56,680 --> 00:15:01,480 mushrooms and your body is unable to digest and really 274 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,280 process these bioavailable compounds unless they're 275 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,480 extracted. So you want to make sure that 276 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:11,240 you're getting at least a a dual extraction and then we do an 277 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,720 ultrasonic extraction method with that as well. 278 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,640 So yeah, that would be one of my key takeaways is make sure that 279 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,280 they're dual extracted because otherwise your body you might 280 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,160 have some digestive issues trying to even just digest the 281 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,800 products and let alone your body even absorbing them. 282 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,640 And how how are most of these deliver? 283 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:33,080 They're like, I've seen the gummies. 284 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,320 I've seen just like the, you know, dehydrated pieces of 285 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,000 mushroom. I would assume that would 286 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,000 probably be a little bit less bioviable. 287 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,720 Like what? How are these often times 288 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,080 delivered? Yeah, so there's a mushroom 289 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:50,360 reishi and another one chaga. These are super bitter and and 290 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,520 basically like biting a piece of a tree bark. 291 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,080 So you're really not gonna be taking a bite into those 292 00:15:57,080 --> 00:16:02,760 mushrooms, but you can get those dehydrated or or dried and make 293 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,800 them into tea or something like that. 294 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:09,560 But for the most part, mushroom products are coming in powders, 295 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,480 capsules and tinctures because if they are extracted you can 296 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,240 get them into those form factors. 297 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:21,680 We use a tincture because the taste of our gummy is extremely 298 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,320 important and the concentration of the compounds. 299 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:29,040 So we were able to get the amount of mushrooms we wanted in 300 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,400 a serving and also have our gummies take taste. 301 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,920 Delicious. And with a powder we just 302 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:39,200 weren't able to achieve that. Because if you look at a pill, 303 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,040 for instance, like imagine fitting that all into a little 304 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,120 gummy. It's pretty impossible with all 305 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,680 the other ingredients that need to go in the gummy as well. 306 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:50,160 And I would think like the amounts of the active ingredient 307 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,840 from the mushrooms in the serving size would have a pretty 308 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,520 profound impact. I would assume a lot of 309 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,920 companies are selling, you know, products that are marketed as 310 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,120 containing these compounds because they're trying to play 311 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,280 on the hype of the popularity of mushrooms, but they're not 312 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,680 delivering an effective dose in the first place. 313 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,079 Yeah. So it's actually very 314 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:12,079 interesting because right now there's really no 315 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:14,920 standardization of mushroom testing. 316 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:19,520 So you can look at a gram of mushroom powder compared to 317 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,760 another gram of mushroom powder and not really know. 318 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,599 It's hard to compare apples to apples, so when you are 319 00:17:27,599 --> 00:17:31,680 comparing it goes back to those those qualifications. 320 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:35,200 You want to make sure that it's a fruiting body dual extracted 321 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:40,560 product because if it's a mycelium based product, your 1G 322 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,120 is not nearly as beneficial as your comparative 1g if that 323 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:47,080 makes sense. Totally, totally. 324 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Well, let's just do a deep dive on the different types of 325 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,800 mushrooms because they're all going to have a different use 326 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,440 case scenario. So just kind of run down the 327 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,360 list of the mushrooms that that Y'all offer. 328 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:58,360 But then just any other mushrooms that come to mind and 329 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,800 where and they'd be beneficial. Like whether it's a neurological 330 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:04,240 standpoint, a performance and recovery standpoint. 331 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:06,960 I just kind of break down the different types of mushrooms and 332 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,920 where they would be useful. Yeah, absolutely. 333 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,640 So we work with the six most popular mushrooms right now. 334 00:18:14,360 --> 00:18:18,560 They are lion's mane, reishi, chaga, maitaki, Cordyceps and 335 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,640 Turkey tail. And these are the mushrooms that 336 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,960 you're going to be seeing in most of the products. 337 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:28,280 So go starting from the top. Lion's mane is my favorite 338 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,880 mushroom. I fell in love with it because 339 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:34,720 it has incredible neurological properties, it's being studied 340 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:37,880 as a potential treatment for Alzheimer's and other 341 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,840 neurological diseases, and dementia runs in my family. 342 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:48,480 So I've always had this kind of fear of living this amazing life 343 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,160 and forgetting the people who make it so amazing. 344 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:55,120 And so, yeah, just really hit close to home. 345 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:58,400 And that was we knew we wanted to create a Lion's Mane product. 346 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:02,640 It's also great for focus and mental clarity and clearing. 347 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,080 Brain Brain Fog. And that's a lot of excuse me, 348 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,760 that's why many of our customers choose to take Lion's Mane as 349 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:15,400 well and it also helps with gut health and inflammation and so 350 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:18,560 much more. And then we have Reishi, which 351 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,360 is one of the most studied mushrooms. 352 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:26,360 It's the queen of mushrooms and it really helps with stress 353 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:30,360 levels, managing your body's stress response and it helps 354 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:35,280 reduce anxiety, helps with calm. It's incredible for your immune 355 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,080 system and because it actually helps your body get down to the 356 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,720 root cause and and relax, it helps you sleep. 357 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,760 So it's not going to make you tired, it's not going to give 358 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,560 you that melatonin hangover, but because your body is actually 359 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,480 naturally de stressing, that helps you sleep. 360 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,920 And a lot of our customers are having amazing, amazing sleep on 361 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,640 Reishi. So that is one of my favorite 362 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,520 mushrooms as well. And then we have chaga. 363 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,160 Which is the king of mushrooms and is the diamond of the 364 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,120 forest. They say it's one of nature's 365 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:16,760 most potent sources of antioxidants, so it's amazing 366 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,880 for your body cellular, healthy cellular health and turnover. 367 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,960 Excuse me? And it also is great for hair, 368 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,160 skin and nails as well. And then we have Cordyceps. 369 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,560 So Cordyceps is loved by athletes. 370 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:35,080 It really helps with endurance and stamina and oxygenation of 371 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,240 the blood. It's also really great for your 372 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:43,520 libido and for sexual health. And then we have Maitaki, which 373 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:47,320 is also a gourmet mushroom. It's a delicious, delicious 374 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:52,560 mushroom to eat and it's amazing for your metabolism and 375 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,720 incredible for your immune system. 376 00:20:54,720 --> 00:21:00,040 And it's also being studied as a treatment for breast cancer and 377 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:02,360 I believe lastly I think I covered all of them. 378 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:07,800 Lastly, we have Turkey tail which is also one of the best 379 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,360 mushrooms you can take for your immune system. 380 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:14,120 It's amazing for your gut health that has prebiotic and probiotic 381 00:21:14,120 --> 00:21:19,960 properties, and it is also being used as cancer treatments in 382 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,480 conjunction with other treatments in Japan, for 383 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,920 instance. And there's a lot of anecdotal 384 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:30,480 studies and people having stories about how Turkey, tail 385 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,240 and other mushrooms have helped with their cancer treatments. 386 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Very nice, very nice. And are are y'all like how do 387 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,640 you do your dosing like you personally throughout the day? 388 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,840 Like what are you consuming? Are you consuming a mix of all 389 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,960 these at different times based off of the activity that you're 390 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,360 about to do, or how do you kind of structure your your personal 391 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:49,760 supplementation? Yeah, absolutely. 392 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:54,200 So I take Linesman in the morning because I love how it 393 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,360 gets me off on on the right foot. 394 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:00,480 And I will also take Reishi in the morning because it really 395 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,480 just helps regulate my stress and my body. 396 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,720 So I love taking those in the morning. 397 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:09,440 And then I take the Super Troop, which is our six mushroom blend, 398 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,960 which incorporates the six mushrooms that I just mentioned. 399 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,600 And I'll take that in the middle of the day as as a little midday 400 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:20,720 pick me up because it has cortisaps and lines made in 401 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,120 there. So it just helps get me a bit of 402 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:26,240 a boost and then I'm I'm good for the rest of the day. 403 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,360 Nice, nice. Is there any like when you're 404 00:22:30,360 --> 00:22:32,720 preparing the mushrooms? Like if someone's cooking with 405 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,960 them, for instance, does that heat destroy any of the the 406 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,720 properties, the bio active compounds or is that not really 407 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,440 something people have to worry about like and it's also with 408 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,400 dehydration, like is that something that's going to remove 409 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:49,040 some of that bio active compound or is that not a concern? 410 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,280 It's not so much a concern because you do heat the 411 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,200 temperature. We we do some heating before we 412 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,840 start the extraction process, and every mushroom has a 413 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:02,760 different temperature that it can be heated to, and there's 414 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,240 different studies on this before the the bioavailable compounds 415 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:07,960 degrade. But when you're cooking, you 416 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:09,440 don't really need to worry about that. 417 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:10,680 Got you. Yeah. 418 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,800 I've had the lion's mane like as a warm a mushroom. 419 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,080 And also just for the the neuro, you know, neurological benefits, 420 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,760 But I'll cook it up, I'll slice it thin and then, you know, 421 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,440 saute it with some brown butter and that's pretty delicious. 422 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,360 Oh, that sounds amazing. So y'all doing all of this in 423 00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,240 house, like you've got your own facility, you did all the 424 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,760 extraction, the growing everything. 425 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,080 No, we are partnered with a company that does that is 426 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:38,200 vertically integrated for the growing and the extraction and 427 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,560 we are working very closely with them on, you know developing 428 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,760 extractions and always making sure that we're getting the best 429 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,760 levels we can when we're doing our testing. 430 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,880 Very nice, very nice. Talking a little bit about the, 431 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,560 the magic mushrooms, the psilocybin. 432 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,440 So like, I feel like if you're in the mushroom game, you see 433 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,800 the benefits of the psilocybin and especially as it pertains 434 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,800 to, you know, being compared with other, you know, 435 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,960 pharmacological agents and Western medicine as a whole. 436 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,840 So like, where's your stance on that? 437 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,440 Where do you think that research is going? 438 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,880 Where do you think that is going from a societal standpoint? 439 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,920 Yeah, absolutely. It's an incredibly exciting 440 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,920 space. So much has happened in recent 441 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,640 years and people are really starting to shift their 442 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,760 perspective on psilocybin. Back in the 70s, people were 443 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,800 doing studies and it was pretty widely used. 444 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,040 And then there was a huge propaganda movement that said 445 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,960 that mushrooms will make you lose your mind and just really 446 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,280 spreading this fear about psilocybin. 447 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,800 And it worked. And pretty much all the studies 448 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,520 were shut down. And now the narrative is 449 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,400 drastically changing. FD. 450 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,840 The FDA will probably approve psilocybin within the next year 451 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:58,280 or two. There's a ton of biotech 452 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:04,600 companies, or sorry, there's a ton of companies on the stock 453 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:08,320 market that are doing psilocybin studies. 454 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,920 Mind Med, for instance. Compass Pathways, for instance. 455 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:17,160 These are all companies that are using psilocybin to treat 456 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:24,080 depression, anxiety, PTSDOCD, addiction, eating disorders. 457 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:29,320 So the reason why it's so effective is because psilocybin 458 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,760 actually enables your brain to make new connections. 459 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,000 So our brain is always thinking in patterns and evolutionarily, 460 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:41,160 this has really benefited us. And you know, you imagine, like, 461 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,960 you know, not to touch the the stove, the flame on the stove 462 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,160 because it's hot. You don't have to keep learning 463 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,200 that lesson every day. However, when it comes to our 464 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,960 mental health and especially addiction, you know, we are in 465 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,760 these constant loops. And there's a study that came 466 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,080 out by Johns Hopkins that said that one dose of psilocybin can 467 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,280 be more effective than the leading SSRI. 468 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:11,560 And an SSRI doesn't necessarily go to the root of the problem 469 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,920 like psilocybin would. Psilocybin actually enables you 470 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:19,960 to connect with yourself, come back to yourself and really 471 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:24,600 actually heal yourself versus these SSRIs that are you have to 472 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:29,720 take over and over and over. And it's going to shake up the 473 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,640 medical industry because unfortunately, especially in in 474 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,520 America, our pharmaceutical companies make money off of us 475 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,600 being sick. So it's really not in their best 476 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,200 interest to have us heal ourselves and help ourselves 477 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,000 with mushrooms. And some are definitely going to 478 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,040 get into the space. I believe Johnson and Johnson is 479 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:53,480 already getting into the space and is working with other 480 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,800 companies on testing. But yeah, I mean, it's 481 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,320 definitely, psilocybin has definitely changed my life. 482 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,680 It's changed the lives of so many people that I know and I 483 00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,560 really do believe that it's going to be a huge part of the 484 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,360 future of mental health. Yeah, I definitely think that is 485 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,920 where the research is heading and I'm excited to see how that 486 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,720 shapes out going forward. I am curious to see what's going 487 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,720 to happen with regards to you know, patents and whatnot 488 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,000 because like big pharma is not going to be too keen on it if 489 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,720 they haven't figured out a way to monetize it. 490 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,840 So I think there's going to be a a patent war at some point as it 491 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,920 pertains to, you know, generating prescriptions and 492 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,720 whatnot around psilocybin as a compound. 100% And it's it's 493 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,240 interesting because you see this, this mushroom that can 494 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,560 just grow from the ground and can help us. 495 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,840 But it they have to. It has to. 496 00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:45,640 It's going to be so complicated, honestly, and it's going to 497 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000 start off being very expensive and it's really going to be 498 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,920 interesting to see how insurance companies are going to play into 499 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,120 this. And it kind of sucks that we're 500 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:57,920 taking something that's natural, but we have to Add all this 501 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,800 bureaucracy to it when it could just be so simple. 502 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,160 Yeah, 100%. You mentioned that it's affected 503 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,240 your life personally. Can you kind of dive into that? 504 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Like how have you incorporated it and what did it do for? 505 00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:12,600 You. Yeah, absolutely. 506 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:18,120 So yes, I have taken psilocybin many times and it's been most 507 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:24,040 effective for me on macro doses. So I as I mentioned, I've done a 508 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,080 very many times and I'm I really feel comfortable navigating the 509 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,400 experience myself. However, if you're new to 510 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,480 psilocybin then I would definitely recommend having 511 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:39,280 someone who is a professional or a therapist sit with you and be 512 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,160 there to support you. For me, I really feel 513 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:46,520 comfortable navigating it. So I did it alone and I took, 514 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,600 I've taken up to 4 1/2 grams and laid down, closed my eyes and 515 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:58,000 just went on a journey. And I've used to do this a few 516 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,440 times a year and it just you kind of just go in with an 517 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,560 intention. But then sometimes you get what 518 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,440 you wanted in terms of addressing your intention, but 519 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880 sometimes the mushrooms have a different plan for you. 520 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,720 However, no matter what along the journey you it's all about 521 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,280 connecting to yourself and seeing yourself. 522 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:25,280 And for me, it's always come back to self love and just 523 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:28,800 realizing that you know, there's a there's this analogy that Jake 524 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,600 says that I really love that imagine you're in a car driving 525 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,280 and you don't wash your car for like 3 months. 526 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,080 Your windshield is going to be really dirty. 527 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,720 And when we do mushrooms, it just allows us to clean the car 528 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520 and clean the windshield. And it really perfectly 529 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,480 describes it because sometimes you have relationships in your 530 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:52,560 life where just little things are piling on top and it can get 531 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,520 out of control. And now you have this negative 532 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,720 narrative about it, but in reality, it doesn't really mean 533 00:29:57,720 --> 00:29:59,160 anything. And you actually love that 534 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,960 person and with yourself. I I'm so hard on myself and I, 535 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,520 it's almost like sometimes I would love other people. 536 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,080 I would give them more love than I would give myself. 537 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,720 And doing mushrooms just always I come back to myself and you 538 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,920 know, giving myself all that love and compassion and that 539 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,880 enables me to then show up as a better person in my life and in 540 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,520 the world. I can totally see and respect 541 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,800 that, for sure. I've never done mushrooms, so I 542 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,760 don't really know like I've never done a macro dose of 543 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,760 mushrooms that would cause any any effect like that. 544 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,160 So I can't really speak from experience, but for the sake of 545 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,280 playing devil's advocate, would it be advantageous to be able to 546 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,400 to have that rewiring and that that change of thinking 547 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,760 endogenously without having to take a substance like how do you 548 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:53,800 kind of navigate those waters? So are you saying how do we 549 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,160 navigate the waters without having to take psilocybin? 550 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,360 Yeah, like I mean for me personally, like when I'm trying 551 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,640 to think of you know, health and you know, self improvement, like 552 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,800 I like the idea of being able to do it internally as opposed to 553 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,000 having to take a substance or object myself to an environment 554 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,600 outside of my norm to correct course. 555 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:16,640 Yeah. But I maybe I've never taken 556 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,080 these so I don't know. I don't know what the other side 557 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,440 of the equation looks like. For sure. 558 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,640 Well, I think at the end of the day the mushrooms are just 559 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:26,120 showing you what you already have inside of you. 560 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,480 And it's not like, you know, they they light the path, but 561 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,840 they don't actually do the work for you. 562 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,840 And it also I always come back to everything we need is already 563 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,120 inside of us. So if you're not interested in 564 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:44,240 taking the psilocybin, it's not a problem because you can still 565 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,560 get there on your own. The mushrooms just kind of speed 566 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,760 up the process a little bit. And it's also just a really 567 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,800 beautiful journey and it's very spiritual. 568 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:58,160 But if that's not you know what you want, I think you can access 569 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,920 that in different ways too. And just a little bit slower 570 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:06,120 with meditation and therapy. And also slowing down I think is 571 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,440 really important and like having time where you just do nothing 572 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:14,080 with yourself and not even reading, not even doing a 573 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,520 crossword puzzle, just actually chilling, laying down and 574 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,240 letting your body talk to you and what is your body trying to 575 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,160 say? And really just honoring 576 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,320 yourself. And the wisdom is already inside 577 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,800 of us. We just have to listen I. 578 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800 Definitely think we live in a day and age where we're just 579 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,680 constantly going, and often times that puts us in this 580 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,440 negative feedback loop that we can't even break free of. 581 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,760 And I could totally see how doing something like that would 582 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,120 facilitate the environment to make that happen more 583 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,680 efficiently. And I don't know, it's it's 584 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:49,360 weird. Like, I agree with you 100%. 585 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:54,680 Like people have this inside them and we just have lost touch 586 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,520 with how to access it. Like people don't know how to 587 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,320 listen to their body anymore. They don't know how to be at 588 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,840 peace with the silence anymore. Like they have to always be 589 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,520 stimulated by something. They always got to be looking at 590 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,280 their phone. And if you can just break free 591 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,480 of that in some form or fashion, that's when progress is made. 592 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,840 Absolutely. And it's unlike other compounds. 593 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,920 Correct me if I'm wrong on this, but mushroom psilocybin does not 594 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,560 have an addictive physiological effect, correct? 595 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,480 Correct, yes. Gotcha. 596 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,400 And and I guess the dosage amount is going to be totally 597 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,200 dependent upon each individual. They probably want to start 598 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,640 small and scale up, I would think. 599 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:35,360 Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean the dosage is so 600 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,360 dependent on the person they there kind of is this like 601 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,680 unspoken dosage guide of .1 grams is a microdose. 602 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,920 So a microdose is sub perceptual. 603 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200 You should not feel it if you've taken it and a lot of people 604 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:55,560 take them before work for productivity and creativity and 605 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,480 it just kind of, you know, I used to do it and take a journal 606 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,560 and I would sometimes feel more patient and compassionate, but 607 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,720 it would nothing. You, you really should not feel 608 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,679 it if you've taken it. And then once you get to the 609 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:14,880 point 2.3, you start feeling it more and you don't, but you 610 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,840 don't have psychedelic properties at that point. 611 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,760 But once you start getting into one gram 2G, you start to have 612 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,600 more psychedelic effects. And then 3 1/2 grams to five 613 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:32,199 grams is called a hero's dose. And that's where you definitely 614 00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,520 want to make sure you're in a safe place with people you feel 615 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:40,120 safe with. And for sure be intentional 616 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,679 about it because it's very powerful and it it is a journey 617 00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,239 and it should be respected and at the same time it's amazing. 618 00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,239 I but I definitely do think that in Western cultures especially 619 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,600 we kind of don't give mushrooms the respect that they deserve. 620 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,200 And when you look at countries or excuse me, civilizations that 621 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,560 have been using mushrooms for centuries, they really, really 622 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,120 respect it. And it's a ceremonial thing and 623 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,240 it's really thought out. And I think we could learn a lot 624 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:16,400 about that. Yeah, I have heard the, you know 625 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,840 the term micro dosing gaining quite a bit of popularity as of 626 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,200 late. But if you're not feeling 627 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,680 anything from it, what is the the benefit there? 628 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,320 Is it kind of like the placebo effect that's that's occurring 629 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:31,680 or is it just sub peripheral like what what is the the 630 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,560 science behind the micro dosing Evan? 631 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,520 Yeah. So there's not as much science 632 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:42,040 behind it as there should be and it is starting to be more of a 633 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,240 focus of attention. But no, it's it's definitely not 634 00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:48,320 placebo, it is it's just sub perceptual. 635 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,360 It's such a small dose, but it the psilocybin is still having 636 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,880 effects on your brain is still enabling you to create those new 637 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:59,480 neurological connections. So it is definitely still 638 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,880 working. And also you know some really 639 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:07,360 interesting use cases for micro dosing is people use them for 640 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:13,360 migraines I've heard and period pains and other just kind of 641 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,840 random applications that I wouldn't have thought. 642 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,320 But there's there's a lot of people who have spoken up and 643 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,720 said that the microdosing helps for that and migraines, I've 644 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:25,320 definitely heard a lot. So yeah, it's really interesting 645 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,720 to see. And when it comes to 646 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:31,880 microdosing, you want to really take note. 647 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,120 So they really encourage you to keep a journal so you could 648 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,480 document how you're feeling. And you also don't want to be 649 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,600 doing it every single day. So you'll want to start off 650 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,960 maybe every other day or two days on, one day off. 651 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,200 Some people like to just do it on the weekdays and not on the 652 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,240 weekends, but you don't want to be doing it seven days a week. 653 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:57,360 Is there true to that as it pertains to the the other forms 654 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,200 of mushrooms too, like the the lion's mane for instance? 655 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,920 Would some would someone benefit from cycling their consumption 656 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,120 of that or is that not really gonna have the same effect? 657 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,360 No, because actually with the medicinal mushrooms, the effects 658 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,400 and the benefits compound with time, so the longer you take 659 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,360 them, the more effective they are for you. 660 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:15,880 Gotcha. Gotcha. 661 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,000 So it's like your body's gonna build up a tolerance to those. 662 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,160 Right, correct. OK. 663 00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,040 That makes sense. And you said you're based out of 664 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,640 California, is that right? Yes, we're in LA. 665 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,640 What do you feel like the overall perception of mushrooms 666 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,200 is, both from a medicinal standpoint and also from the the 667 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,480 psilocybin standpoint there in California and on a broader 668 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,440 regional scale like this, just US in general? 669 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,920 Like, do you feel like the society's becoming more 670 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,400 accepting of mushrooms? Or like had had what? 671 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,240 What is the pulse on the market, so to speak? 672 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,120 Yeah, so I definitely think in LA especially we live in a bit 673 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,040 of a bubble. So there are a lot of mushroom 674 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:58,440 companies headquartered here. There's most people I know take 675 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,600 mushrooms in some way, shape or form. 676 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:05,080 Everyone is seems pretty knowledgeable about mushrooms. 677 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,960 I definitely meet some people who aren't, don't know about 678 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,160 them and they're open minded to learn for the most part. 679 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,640 I do think that this is a very special circumstance though. 680 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,640 When I travel out of town and go to New York or something like 681 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,520 that, some people still know about mushrooms, but it's 682 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:30,880 definitely not this same, the same knowledge or anything like 683 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,080 that as it is here. But I do feel it trickling and 684 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:39,040 just kind of like anything it it starts and then it just it's 685 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,560 like the my celial effect it it is spreading. 686 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,080 And I think people's temperament on mushrooms is definitely 687 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:49,880 changing, especially as more research and studies are coming 688 00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,160 out, which they are. And I just look at, you know, 689 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,960 even older people in my family who thought that mushrooms were 690 00:38:55,960 --> 00:39:00,120 so taboo and who are now taking mushrooms and different form 691 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,520 factors. And it just goes to show you 692 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,000 that it things are for sure changing. 693 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:10,040 Yeah, I mean for me, like I said it's it just seems like a a much 694 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:15,240 more holistic route, a more natural route than reaching for 695 00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:18,320 a bunch of, you know, man made pharmacological substances that 696 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,480 are grown in the lab somewhere. And I feel like that you know, 697 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,240 makes sense like we should try to gravitate more towards that 698 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,680 holistic nutrition, holistic medicine approach. 699 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:31,720 And I mean I I've I've read extensively about different you 700 00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:34,800 know shaman's in the rainforest and what they've been able to do 701 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,280 with just some of the the natural compounds there and it 702 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,880 it's crazy what all we have learned over the years like I 703 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,120 don't know how people figured out these different use case 704 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,440 scenarios for mushrooms in the beginning of time like because 705 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,120 like some kill you so I don't know if. 706 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,560 There were people. Walking around and testing these 707 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,320 out one by one and observing what happened. 708 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,360 But I feel like it's definitely interesting that this is 709 00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:59,320 becoming more mainstream and less there's just less of a 710 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,520 negative stigma associated with it. 711 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,200 And I think there are certainly use case scenarios in which it 712 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,560 would be beneficial as opposed to traditional pharma 713 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,760 pharmacological rounds, especially since it doesn't have 714 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:13,520 that addictive nature that so many other drugs seem to. 715 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:17,040 Exactly. We always say that we think 716 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:20,640 nature holds the answers that we're looking for and we just 717 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,960 have to look and be patient. And yeah, especially mushrooms, 718 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:28,280 they hold the answers to so many, so many problems and if we 719 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,880 can find a natural solution, why wouldn't we use it? 720 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,880 And also, mushrooms represent preventative rather than 721 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:38,680 curative too they they can also be curative. 722 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,800 But taking mushrooms every day does help protect your brain 723 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,440 before it declines. It helps boost up your immune 724 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,480 system. It helps with your focus, It 725 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,960 helps with so many things before you get to the burnout or the 726 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:57,920 part where you need to find a solution for your problem. 727 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,200 Yeah, totally agree. Well, where are things headed 728 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,000 for Y'all in the future? What are you excited about? 729 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,760 What's in the pipeline? Yeah, we're really excited right 730 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,040 now. We are definitely expanding. 731 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,760 We are scaling up, reaching new markets, which is really 732 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,240 awesome. We're going to be expanding our 733 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,080 retail presence this year and hopefully launching 3 new 734 00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:23,520 products. We are going to be staying with 735 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,160 gummies for a while, just expanding our product line. 736 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,040 We're going to be doing blends and incorporating other herbs 737 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,120 and adaptogens and plants. And yeah, we're gonna stay with 738 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,760 gummies. And then who knows, maybe in a 739 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,840 few years we'll branch out into other product categories. 740 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:42,160 But right now, we are the gummy guys. 741 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,040 The gummy guys that like it and what what all's in the gummies 742 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,040 besides the actual compound itself? 743 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,760 Yeah. So for the Lion's mane, for 744 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,800 instance, I mean, they all have the base, the same base formula. 745 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,840 So they're pectin base, so they're vegan. 746 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,200 There is the color and the flavor. 747 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,960 It all comes from fruits and vegetables and then there's 748 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:10,400 tapioca syrup, a little bit of cane sugar and citric acid and 749 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,680 then we just coat them with a little bit of of rice starch and 750 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:14,960 and that's it. Gotcha. 751 00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:18,400 Gotcha. And the the company name is is 752 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:20,240 Troop, which I think is super cool 'cause I didn't realize 753 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,600 this, but a a group of mushrooms growing together is called a 754 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:24,320 troop. Is that right? 755 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,640 Yes, you're the first person that has actually ever known 756 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,440 that. Yeah, I did some did some 757 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:30,920 research from preliminary research. 758 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,600 That's amazing. Play on Y'all's branding for 759 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:34,840 sure. Yeah. 760 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,800 So we chose that name, obviously because of what it means, but it 761 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,880 also symbolizes so much of what we're trying to do, be in 762 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,880 connection with our troop, with our community and grow and 763 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,720 support, with support each other. 764 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,040 I love it. I love it. 765 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,320 So where do people go to find out more about the company, try 766 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,160 the mushrooms, and just dive in deeper? 767 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:58,320 So our website is www.trytroop.com. 768 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,800 We have information about our products. 769 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,360 We have so many blog articles that pretty much about anything 770 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,840 you would have a question on. And then we also have an 771 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,200 Instagram try troop as well where we just post really fun, 772 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,680 playful content, educational content. 773 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:17,080 You'll see Jake and I getting behind the camera sometimes too. 774 00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:22,440 And we also created a discount code Keto Savage 20 for your 775 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,720 listeners who want to try and get 20% off. 776 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,360 Awesome. Well, I certainly appreciate 777 00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,760 that and I I think it's awesome that you and your cousin are 778 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:32,040 building us together. Like having family involved in a 779 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,880 in AI mean that could be a lot of headaches, but it's so 780 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,000 rewarding at the same time, so it's awesome that you all tackle 781 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,840 this together. Yeah, but it's exactly as you 782 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,600 said. There's there's some painful 783 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,080 moments for sure, but because we're family and so close, we've 784 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:50,320 had to overcome them and that has LED us to become better 785 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,400 people, Better Business partners and has been really an 786 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,000 incredible experience. What is his strong point in the 787 00:43:58,000 --> 00:43:59,720 business? Like what does he gravitate to 788 00:43:59,720 --> 00:44:02,040 and what do you gravitate to as far as like separating things 789 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:04,400 out their different roles? Yeah. 790 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:13,400 So he is more tech website finance funnels, he's yeah all 791 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:19,600 that kind of stuff and I'm OPS and branding and we both do the 792 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,960 marketing together and decision making together and I run like 793 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,560 most of the day-to-day and and managing all of the teams and 794 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,760 stuff like that. Very cool, Very cool. 795 00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,920 Well, it is super fascinating. Like I like I said, I've got 796 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,560 this employee that's been diving into it. 797 00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,200 He's he's given me several of his, you know, lion's mane, the 798 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,800 hydrated lion's mane and cordycep samples. 799 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,360 And it's it's just cool. It's cool to see them grow. 800 00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,560 It's cool to see, you know, him producing all these in house and 801 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:47,720 this. Like I said, this is all Greek 802 00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:49,640 to me. So I'm going to have to figure 803 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:51,800 out what he's doing. Then I'll probably have to come 804 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,680 to you with some questions to get things dialed in and 805 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:54,880 optimized because. It's. 806 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,760 Very fascinating to me. Yeah, absolutely. 807 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,480 We'd love to be a part of the journey. 808 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,400 Awesome. Well, thank you so very much for 809 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,800 taking the time, Stephanie. I certainly appreciate it and I 810 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,640 appreciate all the content you're putting out. 811 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:07,600 Like I said, the website is legit. 812 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,880 You get multiple blog posts on there from an educational 813 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,640 standpoint, and I think that's the main thing with all of this 814 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,880 stuff as it pertains to mushrooms from a medicinal 815 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,920 standpoint but also from a performance standpoint. 816 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,720 Like people just need to learn more about, like have education 817 00:45:20,720 --> 00:45:21,960 around it. So I think it's awesome that you 818 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,000 are focusing so much on that component of it. 819 00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:26,760 Thank you so much. We're we're really trying. 820 00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,000 So I appreciate that a lot. Absolutely. 821 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,600 Well, until next time, Stephanie, you keep rocking the 822 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,200 business and if there's everything I can do for you, 823 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,600 just let me know. Thank you so much. 824 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:36,960 Same to you. Take care. 825 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:38,560 Yeah, we'll talk soon.