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Hello, ladies and gents Roberts.
Thanks kiddo. 

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Savage.com to them get special 
guest gin streaky Robertson the 

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line. 
She has got a very fascinating 

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story, she get into the health 
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She did CrossFit that she went 
to Olympic lifting that 

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powerlifting then bodybuilding. 
And then she got diagnosed with 

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cervical cancer stage, one, and 
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They said that she was now stage
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So very crazy story, very 
tumultuous time, with that news 

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that information, they told her 
that she would never be able to 

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do Fitness. 
Again would never be able to 

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compete again. 
And was really just kind of give

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her this this death sentence so 
it speaks to the be able to Rise

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From the Ashes so to speak like 
a phoenix and then figure out 

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what you need to do differently 
with the nutrition. 

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With her training with her 
mindset, was all very very 

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inspiring. 
I wanted to dive deeper and 

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learn more and I have no doubt 
that you will take something 

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from this. 
So that further Ado, sit back, 

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relax. 
Enjoy the podcast with gin 

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streaky Roberts. 
And we are live. 

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Gin streaky Roberts. 
How are you? 

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I'm great. 
How are you doing? 

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I'm doing wonderfully, 
wonderfully, well, I don't know 

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how I got in contact with you. 
I think through Instagram 

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originally but you can't some 
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It's just scrolling through 
Instagram. 

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You get some awesome stage shots
and you just did a really cool 

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photo shoot with a horse and 
you're like old, you know, 

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dressed up in your Native 
American Garb that just really 

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caught my interest. 
You plus, you got a Stories. 

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I kind of understand into the, 
behind the scenes of your life. 

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Thanks man. 
Well, my name is Jen streaky now

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Roberts. 
It was he ate. 

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And I'm actually newly married. 
We got married last year on 

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2222, little memorial date 
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Um, I've been in the fitness 
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actually used to be somebody 
that was extremely overweight, 

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borderline diabetic smoked a 
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then believe it or not found 
CrossFit and Fitness in 2010 and

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it's funny how it Sorted because
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CrossFit gyms in the State of 
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now they're like every block. 
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treadmill every day at LA 
Fitness, I can do this. 

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Cross art stuff, for whatever 
it's called. 

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That's what I called it because 
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know? 
So I ended up going and we had 

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three movements man. 
It was squatting to a wall ball 

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doing jump ropes, which I didn't
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I did it backwards as with 
everything in my life and then 

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we had to run 250. 
That 28 years old, I started 

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doing this and I ran maybe 50 
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oh my gosh, this is not. 
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So literally from that day 
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years, a pack of cigarettes a 
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I quit cold turkey, that day and
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So that's kind of what got me in
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moving weight. 
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Now also backstory, I am Someone
who flunked physical education 

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and this is my career. 
No and fitness is my career and 

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and I was terrible at eating so 
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place. 
I've been heavy, I've been 

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smaller than disordered eating. 
I've kind of can relate with a 

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lot of people. 
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doing CrossFit, I had dropped 30
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everything stabilized. 
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was like, oh rice is bad. 
Everything is bad, that is a 

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carb. 
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this, what almost 13 years ago, 
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good about myself, but I kind of
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thing. 
So I was like, that's bad cards 

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are bad. 
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for a while and then after I 
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eating, I got into CrossFit 
competitions and then which is 

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funny because I'm deathly afraid
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Would you believe that now? 
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But Oh yeah, I was a big-time 
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at the time. 
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he was like, you know, streak 
that's what he called me streak 

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without the why. 
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compete and I said, no, not 
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And so he's like, well, you lost
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Maybe you can Inspire, folks. 
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until you're 28 years old. 
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just try it. 
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was hooked and it's so crazy. 
I got a sponsorship at that 

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competition, with this company, 
which has been around for a long

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time, called lift, Big E. 
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And I was 12, I was one of his 
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competition turned into five, 
turned into six turned into. 

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I'm competing at the Southeast 
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legit athlete. 28 years old. 
I turned into an athlete. 

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Like my whole life, I didn't do 
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I was into cattle and horses and
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everybody else, but got it. 
To doing that, which opened up 

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the door for nutrition and I 
learned like I did better fasted

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and then if I ate fat and 
protein I was better but make 

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carbs and it feels so good and I
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space like none of it. 
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I just knew that certain things.
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a certain way and it was pretty 
interesting and I got shredded 

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so that was kind of cool that 
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decided CrossFit is not for me 
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lot. 
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Catalyst that I did. 
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gymnastics. 
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muscle ups and things like that,
like, on the Rings and tore a 

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labrum. 
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even still to this day. 
I've got a terror annular tear 

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on my l5-s1 shattered. 
Tailbone, I've got a lot of 

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injuries. 
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kept. 
I kept just injuring myself over

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and over and over again. 
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time, it's not about your form. 
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winning so it's like this is not
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Olympic weightlifting and that 
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because I'm loud. 
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power lifting and then 
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So I did everything backwards. 
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bodybuilding and then go to the 
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involved in bodybuilding now. 
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I did my very first show became 
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awesome. 
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biggest names in the 
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in my first NPC show. 
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when you just eat like a normal 
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usually a Cascade of downward 
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pounds, 257 pounds in the blank.
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a mill, it's not great. 
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six weeks to put on almost 30 
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It was, that's not okay. 
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depressed, it want to lift, and 
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didn't really understand it, but
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around around, you know over all
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and then finally, I was just I'm
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I'll try that. 
That works was pretty 

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successful. 
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going to do another show in 
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coach that diagnosed with 
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Hmm. 
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this one out. 
We were good, friends, whatever 

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we helped each other through 
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like I'm not competing this 
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So then 2019 rolls around. 
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all the weight that I gained. 
It took like two years to get 

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that all off. 
But again I'm 1500 calories or 

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less cardio like crazy, you 
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This you know the drill. 
It's like over and over as the 

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same same And then 2020 rolls 
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another coach. 
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me still kept carbohydrates 
moderate and low but still was 

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raised him up a little bit. 
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and I was like, cool. 
I'm going to compete in 2020. 

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Well, About that time, February 
rolls around 20 21 and I start 

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like bleeding, like crazy. 
And I'm like, wow, this is not 

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normal part of my cycle. 
And I went to the emergency room

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and they were like, everything's
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like, let's do one more scan. 
So they end up doing a scan and 

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they find that there is a mass 
on my cervix and I have a sixth 

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in a meter, which is a size of 
an egg tumor growing in my body 

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and I had no idea. 
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Everything. 
And it put everything in a 

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tizzy, but some things that the 
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doughnut. 
I'm not to protect her 

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personality. 
Like do not ever tell me I 

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cannot do something because I 
will figure every single way 

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around it to prove you wrong. 
And while I was about to go in 

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for surgeries and all these 
things, the doctors told me he 

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will not do Fitness anymore. 
You will not do bodybuilding 

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anymore, you eat whatever you 
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Like, it's just get the calories
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But this doesn't sound logical 
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Yeah. 
And it's hard, argument argument

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with somebody that's got like 
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been doing this for 30 years and
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And so I was diagnosed with, at 
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cancer. 
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didn't give me any help. 
I had to do all this research on

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my own, so I started learning 
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Learn about juicing, that's not 
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carnivore. 
Learn about ketogenic diet, and 

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more people were leaning towards
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And Carnivore. 
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That's pretty fascinating. 
And here's why, you know, 

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because, you know, the ketones 
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thrive in the same body, but 
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That's pretty interesting. 
So, anyways, the doctors thought

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I was nuts as usual because I 
went against the grain with what

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they were trying to demonstrate 
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Hmm. 
I went in they said you can work

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out up until you have these 
surgeries and then you're going 

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to have to just call it quits. 
And I was like, okay cool 

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whatever I'll be back on the 
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I'll be Back in the gym, 
whatever it is that makes me 

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happy because if you change your
mindset, when you get a 

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diagnosis like this man, like 
your whole world is rocked and 

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you either sink or swim. 
Like there's no, you really have

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to keep a positive mindset and 
it sucks. 

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And I know so many people with 
cancer, they get that diagnosis.

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And it's a downward spiral from 
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And I thought about it for 21 
that. 

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Yeah, this isn't February 20 21 
and when he when they told me 

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you can't do this in, can't do 
this and can't do. 

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This but you can eat this and 
you can eat that whatever. 

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I was like man something 
something's just not adding up 

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so here in my logical mind. 
Right? 

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So I'm like why is this cancer 
living? 

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And how do I change the 
environment that it's thriving 

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in? 
If I change the environment that

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is thriving in, it can't Thrive 
and so that made perfect sense 

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to me. 
They thought I was absolutely 

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insane. 
So I busted out the books, I did

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the research, I search for the 
natural paths. 

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I'm on the DuckDuckGo because 
Google doesn't have what I need 

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and I did Much stuff and the 
more you train, the more lean 

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tissue, you have also helps keep
certain cells gone and down and 

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away. 
So skipping ahead, they 

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diagnosed me with the stage one 
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They said they were going to go 
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would have to get chemo and 
radiation, 28 rounds. 6 weeks of

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chemotherapy and 28 rounds of 
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into my transversus abdominus. 
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like whenever they went to do 
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like it's a 50/50 chance. 
This is going to work but this 

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is so you still produce estrogen
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menopause well, that didn't 
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So here I take great pride in 
being an Atty Pro, right? 

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But the doctors have told me I'm
never stepping on stage again. 

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I'm never a competing, I'm never
whatever. 

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I'm like. 
Yeah, cool. 

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See you soon. 
See you later. 

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Dude, I went in for my fourth. 
It was my Fourth week of 

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radiation. 
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deep. 
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chemotherapy after having this 
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had like a bunch of holes. 
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things around, it, put me into 
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through premenopause. 
I didn't go to the menopause, it

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just put me right in, with 19 or
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hormone panel, that's basically 
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I had my testosterone read as a 
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To and my progesterone was 
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completely fried some like at 
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38:30 going into 39 years old. 
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old that I was going to go on 
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realm of women especially 
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to ever compete again after I 
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goes the pro status, right? 
The naughty Pro. 

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So, that's out the door. 
Like, you know how it is. 

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If you go on thyroid medication,
you I had a hard time competing.

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So anyways, I went on the HRT 
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to because you have to figure 
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for you. 
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testosterone or non-existent 
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the androgynous in and then the 
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you got to get those, right? 
And then you've got to put the 

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progesterone and it literally 
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eight months to figure out what 
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little bit of estrogen. 
It was just a big scientific 

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mess to be honest. 
I'm like a guinea pig. 

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needed more estrogen because I 
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sense. 
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hot. 
Hot flashes, dry skin hair's 

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falling out. 
Mood swings had acne. 

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I haven't had a pimple on my 
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and I'm like, I can't live like 
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And the doctors were like Sorry 
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of pocket because just because 
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cancer treatment insurance will 
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So everything I do is like 
natural medicine and all that 

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stuff you got to pay for it. 
They don't cover any of it. 

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So I had to start working 
working working working working,

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and we're stress my body out 
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just add to be something to give
here, then, also, the whole time

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I was going through this up to 
the doctors told me not to train

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and do these things. 
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The gym that was three weeks. 
I did not go to the gym out of 

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the six, eight months. 
It took me to recover, which I 

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thought was pretty pretty 
interesting, because he kept my 

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mind right now. 
And what's your feeling at this 

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point, like when you're when 
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treatment, are you putting much 
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point, aren't absolutely. 
Absolutely. 

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Something that had had stuck out
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the chemo. 
Ward, I would go there, and I 

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would see the people drinking 
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drink eating popcorn and 
microwave food. 

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And I pull out my chicken 
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I've got a potato you know or 
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It was very like carbs cycled if
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and that's also something I 
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lean tissue but also my sanity 
and as I'm looking at everybody 

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else around me that's like gray 
skinned and they're sick and I 

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felt so bad for them. 
I'm like, they're eating trash. 

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Like these people are like 
keeping the cancer alive. 

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And in a nutshell I was like 
This is not okay. 

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So I was very, very, very 
diligent like about what went in

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my mouth, when it like, I didn't
drink sodas. 

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I didn't I don't do aspartame, 
sucralose, like all those kinds 

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of things because you don't know
what's triggering certain things

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in your body. 
I wanted this cancer gone 

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forever so I pulled out, pulled 
out some books, started reading 

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the truth about cancer and all 
these different foods and learn 

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all these things and you popped 
up a couple times. 

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Like, on suggested things on 
Instagram. 

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This is long before I got back 
into fitness and I'm like, huh? 

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It's interesting because 
ketogenic bodybuilding is not, 

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it's not a big. 
Like, people don't really talk 

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about it a lot and less they're 
prepping for shows, you know 

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what I mean? 
Yeah, that's its which I think 

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is awesome. 
Now it's more out like we're 

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getting word out. 
So back to training heavy, I was

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going to do a power lifting 
meet. 

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This is post surgeries, did my 
HRT I'm feeling better and the 

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more hot flashes the more 
nothing and so I was like I'm 

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gonna do another show. 
I'm going to for my 40th 

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birthday. 
Today I'm going to do this. 

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So I found my current coach 
Maria and her husband they've 

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been around for a long time and 
they've got athletes that have 

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been doing keto for a long time.
And then, the more I start 

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talking to her, we started doing
the carb cycling, and doing all 

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these things, and I'm like, huh,
I'm over this. 

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He do Savage guy, I'm gonna get 
his book and so I waited. 

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I think I put your book in the 
cart a long time ago. 

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This is so crazy. 
How I'm going to tell you the 

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story and I never got the book 
but I always watch I watch. 

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Crystal's podcast and arguing 
YouTube's all the time. 

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I try to tune in on the lives 
when I'm not coaching here, I'm 

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like, man, I got these guys, 
they got something to say, you 

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know, you're the guy like you're
the guy that knows all the 

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things about the keto stuff and 
a lot of other things. 

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But like this is very 
interesting. 

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So I start learning more about 
it and I'm like, hold up, 

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there's tons of cancer patients 
that are on keto and carnivore 

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and they're in remission, they 
don't have any cancer. 

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There's some there's some things
to be said about that and 

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they're growing me tissue. 
Ooh, and their hair is not 

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falling out anymore and all 
these things that biomarkers are

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better. 
I'm going to try it. 

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What the hell do I have to lose?
You know so back to what I told 

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you when I went when I went in 
for my surgery, this loan back a

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little bit and they told me 
you're diagnosed with Stage 1 

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cervical, cancer. 
They took me in. 

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They did the surgery. 
I woke up, they say we had some 

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good news. 
We got some bad news, the good 

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news is your excellent fit. 
Your awesome. 

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Like, you know, you got great 
nutritional background, we've 

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got this trial study for you. 
You and the bad news is your 

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stage 3. 
Man, I wanted to throw up right 

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there like I didn't imagine like
you go and you've already very 

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got in your head you got cancer.
You're not going to be able to 

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have kids. 
This is all in like a matter of 

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two or three weeks can't have 
kids. 

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Now you got not stage one, but 
we got stage 3. 

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Now we're going to pump you full
of a bunch of stuff and your 

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career for Fitness, which is 
your livelihood is over? 

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Hey, definitely not man. 
So it's been a lot of mental, 

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you know, like 
compartmentalizing. 

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Like this is, you take care of 
those and take care of this and 

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doing that by yourself sucks, 
but whatever I managed I got 

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through it, so I can help other 
people. 

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But now we go back to Maria. 
And Vlad, I hire Maria. 

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We do my first show coming back.
This was what I did it in met 

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this past year. 
This past May made, 20:22 to 

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yes. 
Yes. 

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So she gets me ready, and of 
course, we're fighting, like, 

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hell, like trying to get me, 
lean, get the legs lean, get the

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glutes lean and I have to take 
hormone replacement therapy, so,

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therefore, we don't really know 
where the hormones are all over 

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the place. 
So I'm getting Labs told every 

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six or eight weeks are like 
estrogens, tanked progesterone 

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stanked and I'm like, great. 
There was everything I just 

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messed, you know, I just fixed. 
It's all messed up again. 

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Mmm, let's prep. 
So we finally figure out. 

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I'm like, maybe it's the carbs. 
So we got me as long as I can 

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with Nationals, you know, you 
got to go through the hell to 

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get as long as you possibly can 
to get on a stage and then I 

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wanted to compete at Nationals 
even if I place a dead last 

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because it's my 40th birthday 
and I want to do this for 

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myself, in that time of doing 
that, this was June was 

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Nationals. 
So I got an overall in May when 

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to June place dead-ass last and 
figure and physique, because I 

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wasn't clean enough that was 
very humbling, and then July, we

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took a family trip and my And 
said, hey, I'm buying books 

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while we're here on the beach. 
Jen, you got a book in your 

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cart? 
Can I go ahead and get it for 

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you? 
And I said, oh my God. 

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Yes it's Taquito. 
Savage, keto bodybuilding book 

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and stuff. 
So I'm so hype, right? 

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Josh told me that book, when it 
arrived at our beach house, bro.

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I sat down. 
I went through 160 Pages before 

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I even put your book down. 
Awesome. 

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And I was like, holy balls. 
I should reverse diet like this 

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and I went to your chapter of 
reverse dieting. 

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Me and Maria, we put something 
together and we started doing 

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it. 
I jump my calories up way faster

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than most people normally would 
like I went from hell, I think I

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was at, you know, how bad it is 
just like total of eight twelve 

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eighty or something like that. 
What? 

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Women from like 1282 like 2000 
and blink of an eye and I was 

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getting I was getting more lean 
tissue. 

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I wasn't getting a bunch of fat.
Holy crap. 

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This is awesome. 
And I'm not hungry all the time 

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because when I get every show 
I've ever come out of, I would 

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eat your food, Your Friends 
food. 

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My wife's food, my food, 
everybody's food and I still 

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would not be hungry. 
I mean I still would not be 

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full. 
Mmm. 

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And when I started doing this, 
I'm like oh my God, I can eat a 

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ribeye and some butter and I'm 
good. 

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This is amazing. 
So that's kind of how this whole

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thing started especially with 
nutrition. 

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And I noticed mindset changed, 
100%. 

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I mean I still have that. 
You're not going to tell me what

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to do. 
I'm going to figure it out my 

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own but like the clarity then 
there was no more brain fog, 

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there wasn't a Dima that was the
biggest thing and as a female 

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going through all of these 
things that I just happened to 

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me. 
It's like holy crap. 

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This is all diet is making me 
feel amazing. 

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And honestly, man, if it wasn't 
for your book I would not 

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obviously would not be sitting 
here talking to you on this 

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podcast but like it changed my 
life. 

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Well, I'm sorry, I'm not trying 
to get all emotional. 

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Then imagine, you know, you'd 
read the book until I looked at 

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your Instagram and you had made 
a post about it like today. 

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So that's music to my ears, for 
sure. 

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Yeah. 
But like it's I'd love to dive 

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into the mindset aspect because 
I think that is of Paramount 

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importance, regardless of the 
Endeavors. 

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But especially when you get in, 
you know, bad news, like you 

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have your have things like, 
pretty much RI figure out your 

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identity. 
So you're doing all this stuff. 

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You find out that you've got 
stage 1, then stage three cancer

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and blink of an eye not too long
ago and then you have to figure 

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out How to, you know, change 
your nutrition at the figure 

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out, how you're going to make 
this training philosophy, work 

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00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:38,800
all of this and all this is 
going down to it. 

447
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,100
Sounds like night during the 
pandemic. 

448
00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:41,500
So a lot of these shows are 
getting cancelled. 

449
00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,500
Give me shows that you were 
planning on doing that we're 

450
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,000
getting canceled. 
No, because actually, I was 

451
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:50,400
going through all this during 
the pandemic and like yourself 

452
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,700
because I remember hearing some 
of the stuff that you talked 

453
00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:55,800
about, like, when you guys 
released, it was your shirts 

454
00:22:55,900 --> 00:22:59,600
Faith over fear, was I right? 
Yeah, I was thriving. 

455
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,100
That time man, because our gym 
shut down for like six weeks, 

456
00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:06,700
but then I was like, oh crap. 
I'm going to go online and do 

457
00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:09,200
online workouts. 
And I've got a nutrition 

458
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,900
business that people contact me 
because I like to help lifestyle

459
00:23:11,900 --> 00:23:14,800
clients more than athletes. 
I love seeing people get their 

460
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,700
confidence back and feel good 
about themselves. 

461
00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:21,900
I'm not mentally ready to Quito 
somebody, but that's what I've 

462
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:24,200
been doing. 
Like more of a Paleo nutritional

463
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,600
approach like non bro, kind of 
stuff so people have longevity. 

464
00:23:28,100 --> 00:23:31,000
So I did that. 
My business was Blowing up and 

465
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,000
then you know them stimme checks
helped out too. 

466
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:38,600
But so yeah I was I was driving 
during that time and then I got 

467
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,800
that diagnosis and I'm like, 
holy crap literally. 

468
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:45,000
I was at the top of the castle 
and then it just crumbled and 

469
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,700
quick backstory. 
So I also, you know, I just got 

470
00:23:49,700 --> 00:23:51,700
married a year ago, my husband 
and I have been together for 

471
00:23:51,700 --> 00:23:54,700
three years and his previous 
marriage. 

472
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:58,400
He went through a cancer scare 
and his wife passed. 

473
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,900
So he's actually a widow. 
So, To have to go through that 

474
00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:05,300
all over again, mindset here, I 
am freaking out. 

475
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,200
This is going to happen all over
again for him. 

476
00:24:07,300 --> 00:24:11,100
I've got 35 clients that I've 
got to worry about and keep my 

477
00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:14,500
head on straight and smile every
day and report to duty and 

478
00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:17,200
everything is great and 
wonderful and everything's fine 

479
00:24:17,300 --> 00:24:19,400
in the meantime at night, I'm 
online. 

480
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,000
I'm researching, I'm looking, 
I'm trying to learn, I'm doing 

481
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,300
as much as possible and I'm not 
sharing any of this with anybody

482
00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:27,700
because I'm doing this for 
myself as a guinea pig, pretty 

483
00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,600
much and it's a lot. 
In your head, you know what I'm 

484
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:31,800
saying? 
And then you got to train and 

485
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,400
then you got to eat right? 
When you got to take this pill 

486
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,600
at this time, and do this at 
this time, take this IV. 

487
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:40,000
I get stuck with more needles 
every single week with IVs and 

488
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,700
b12, and all these different 
hormone things I got to do. 

489
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:48,400
It's monotonous, but you make it
work and that's the thing. 

490
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,000
Like back to the whole key do 
stuff. 

491
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,800
Like I find that your Mitten 
fasting or having a fatty coffee

492
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,700
in the morning, I'm clearer to 
be able to think to be able to 

493
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,300
do these things. 
Like everything is Clockwork for

494
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,800
me. 
I take B5 vitamins a day, just 

495
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,700
to make sure I don't have cancer
again. 

496
00:25:03,900 --> 00:25:07,300
Like, it's crazy any point. 
Like, when you originally got 

497
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:09,700
that diagnosis and you had all 
this weight of the world on your

498
00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,300
shoulders, was there any moment 
when she were, like, you know, 

499
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:13,800
just throwing up your hands and 
saying screw it. 

500
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,100
Like what's the point? 
Like, what's the point? 

501
00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:17,400
Sounds many trician was the 
point on going to the gym like, 

502
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,400
what's the point? 
Yep. 

503
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:23,400
II do I did say that and then I 
shit you not. 

504
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,300
I have somebody send me a 
message in my inbox you know I 

505
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:29,800
really appreciate the fact that 
you shared that you know you We 

506
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:31,900
got nine ten thousand people on 
the Instagram. 

507
00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:36,100
And if one person sees that and 
more and more people because I 

508
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:38,900
was very like hesitant about 
posting about cancer because I 

509
00:25:38,908 --> 00:25:40,900
don't like bringing any 
awareness to anything. 

510
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,600
Listen, we got enough awareness 
about cancer, I just didn't want

511
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,100
to magnify it. 
You know, I'm saying, thoughts 

512
00:25:45,100 --> 00:25:48,400
become things. 
So I didn't want to draw any 

513
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,600
attention to it. 
I've had people with brain 

514
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:54,300
cancer, contact me and they 
they're all in remission breast 

515
00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:57,000
cancers, bone cancers, all these
things. 

516
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,500
I can't believe you're going 
through this street and we would

517
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:02,600
be To talk back and forth and 
they would help me and I would 

518
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,700
help them and they would teach 
me and I would teach them. 

519
00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:08,300
And I guess from being more 
vocal about these things that we

520
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,200
all go through. 
It helps other people in 

521
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,700
situations like that. 
Yeah, 400-plus go ahead. 

522
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,400
I feel like there's a lot of 
effective scary to put yourself 

523
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,200
out there and absolutely when 
you do that I mean, you look at 

524
00:26:20,208 --> 00:26:22,300
other people that have put 
themselves out there that are 

525
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:24,100
quote-unquote experts on the 
subject matter. 

526
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,800
And you're like, what can I 
possibly add to the, you know, 

527
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,600
conversation. 
But I feel like when you do put 

528
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,300
yourself out there, I don't know
like you you have a lot more 

529
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,300
like you have a deeper respect 
for people that are going 

530
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:35,900
through something similar. 
They resonate with your story 

531
00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,500
more and they may they may pick 
up on something, you say that 

532
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:40,600
they're not hearing from these 
quote-unquote experts and I feel

533
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:44,000
like because of that, you can 
have a tremendous positive 

534
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,200
impact by simply just sharing 
what you're experiencing 

535
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,200
personally. 
Right? 

536
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,600
Absolutely. 
And that's the thing too, is 

537
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,100
like, it really opened a lot of 
doors for me for Integrative 

538
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,400
Medicine. 
Like I've been big into natural 

539
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,500
medicine and like healing the 
body naturally my whole entire 

540
00:26:58,500 --> 00:27:02,200
life, which To people like 
almond tiptoe around this 

541
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,300
subject. 
When I was going through my 

542
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:07,800
treatments, I was already 
poisoning my body Enough by 

543
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,800
putting six weeks worth of 
cisplatin chemotherapy and trial

544
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,400
drugs, in my body and then 28 
rounds of radiation, which is no

545
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,000
joke. 
Like, that's in your body 

546
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,400
forever, like, your bones are 
wrecked. 

547
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,100
Your screwed forever, whatever 
they wanted me to get these 

548
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,900
certain vaccinations and I was 
like, nah man. 

549
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,800
I don't I know the science 
behind this. 

550
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:28,700
I don't know the science behind 
this so therefore it's my 

551
00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:29,500
choice. 
I'm not going. 

552
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,500
To in the doctors were very 
adamant and pushing me to do 

553
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:34,700
that and they're like, you're 
going to get sick and you're 

554
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:37,000
going to die because your immune
system is already suppressed. 

555
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:40,500
They told me this like out of 
their mouths professionals and I

556
00:27:40,500 --> 00:27:42,400
was like, I think I'll take my 
chances. 

557
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,000
You know you've already told me 
how to slow going growing cancer

558
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:46,500
so we're not going to rush 
anything. 

559
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,100
I'm going to do research over 
here. 

560
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:50,600
I'm going to find Integrative 
Medicine, doctors people to heal

561
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,700
my blood because you guys are 
wrecking it. 

562
00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:55,400
And I literally, I mean, did we 
have paid? 

563
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,500
Probably damn near close to 12 
grand out of pocket for natural 

564
00:27:58,500 --> 00:28:01,900
medicine. 
Viewers which doctors all these 

565
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,200
different like concoctions of 
cervical cancer. 

566
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,700
Get rid of situations, like I 
mean, did I have done so many 

567
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:14,900
Hyperbaric like so many 
different modalities that were, 

568
00:28:14,900 --> 00:28:18,300
never brought to the table 
because it's only, you know, 

569
00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:20,000
radiation. 
There's your standard of care. 

570
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,100
Have a nice day figure it out. 
Yeah. 

571
00:28:22,100 --> 00:28:24,200
There's been a lot of really 
compelling research coming out 

572
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,300
about hyperbaric oxygen Chambers
and, you know fasting Imaging 

573
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:30,200
diet for, you know, cancer. 
As I met Bulk disease. 

574
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,500
I feel like they're certainly 
needs to be a deeper 

575
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:35,700
conversation there. 
That is oftentimes saluting had 

576
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:37,500
with people that aren't having 
his diagnosis. 

577
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:39,800
Well, what is there? 
What are they telling you now? 

578
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,700
Like when you go back in for you
know, post-op check ins and 

579
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:44,800
whatnot. 
Like what are they saying? 

580
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,700
Like when they're checking you 
out? 

581
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:48,700
Now, what are they saying? 
So this is actually pretty 

582
00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:51,500
pretty awesome. 
My last round of radiation that 

583
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,700
I had, which was, oh my gosh. 
It's been almost, it'll be two 

584
00:28:54,700 --> 00:28:57,200
years in February March, April, 
May June. 

585
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,200
So you try to block some of that
stuff out. 

586
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,000
So like, May June it'll be two 
years. 

587
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:07,000
I still had a two-centimeter 
mass one of my lymph nodes was 

588
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,800
still swollen because it had hit
to lymph nodes a mask that 

589
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,900
considers it stage 3. 
So when I left I was like well 

590
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,200
the radiation is going to 
continue to keep doing its work.

591
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,700
So I'm going to ride this out. 
These couple months I'm going to

592
00:29:19,708 --> 00:29:23,100
start doing high-dose radiation.
I mean vitamin C treatments, 

593
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:26,600
like IVs and we're going to go 
from there and then I'll re 

594
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,200
address this and I didn't even 
talk about About that part. 

595
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,900
But they wanted to do after the 
all the radiations. 

596
00:29:32,900 --> 00:29:36,700
Don't on the pelvis, they do an 
internal radiation which is 

597
00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:40,000
super barbaric for females and I
decline that and that's what 

598
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,100
really set the doctors off. 
And they were like, you have to 

599
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,600
do this or you're going to die 
and I was like, I'll take my 

600
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,700
chances. 
I'll roll the dice. 

601
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:50,200
I'm not gonna have somebody 
probe me anymore because I had 

602
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,100
from the radiation. 
I had on the front, it blistered

603
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:56,200
right through my spine and on 
the back, so it goes straight 

604
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,600
through the spine on the table. 
So I was You're not sticking 

605
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,000
anything where no absolutely 
not. 

606
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:07,600
So after that I decided that I 
was going to go take it upon 

607
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,200
myself to do high dose, vitamin 
C treatments and then do there's

608
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,000
a doctor here in Georgia he 
there's nobody else in the 

609
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:17,200
world. 
That does what he does is called

610
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,300
Magic puncture, where this will 
make perfect sense to you, they 

611
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:24,600
actually take cups and magnets 
and stick it on the body and put

612
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,700
a iron plate underneath and they
move the blood around the body 

613
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,400
to keep it from being stagnant 
cancer. 

614
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,700
Thrives in a stagnant. 
Exactly. 

615
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:35,700
But the magnet that goes inside 
of the cup, and then there's a, 

616
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:37,900
like, a cast-iron plate. 
Basically, that goes on your 

617
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:42,000
back, so you put a cup on the 
front, the the plate on the back

618
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,000
and he moves the blood around to
where it creates more blood 

619
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,600
flow. 
My skin went from jaundice 

620
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,400
yellow to like pink within two 
or three days. 

621
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,000
So then when I went back in, 
I've always been anemic, my 

622
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,300
whole life. 
This is where the tests come in.

623
00:30:56,300 --> 00:30:59,300
They tested my, my labs mahima 
crap, my hemoglobin, everything 

624
00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:01,200
was Perfect. 
Like, I've never had anything 

625
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,200
done to me after three 
treatments with the with dr. 

626
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,700
Cool. 
And then, I went back in to get,

627
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,100
you know, the pap smear they got
to check it and everything and 

628
00:31:11,100 --> 00:31:13,900
they said that the cervix was 
completely clear, like nothing 

629
00:31:13,900 --> 00:31:18,000
had ever happened. 
And then when they tested me 

630
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:22,000
for, they did my MRI and they 
said there was no swollen. 

631
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,600
Lymph nodes, there is no tumor 
present anywhere. 

632
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,700
It is gone Geo. 
Any gone. 

633
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,800
And I actually just got This 
report couple weeks ago. 

634
00:31:31,500 --> 00:31:33,600
Wow. 
So like this is a combination of

635
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,500
just all the things that you're 
doing in the same time. 

636
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,000
Absolutely absolutely. 
And then also, with my natural 

637
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,100
path, he they signed me up 
because I had a pre-existing 

638
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:45,000
condition for this with this 
company called Signet era. 

639
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,900
And what they do is they 
actually do a blood draw and 

640
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,700
then we'll test you from the 
most common cancers. 

641
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:53,000
Because usually like this one 
isn't to this one and this one 

642
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,800
is this one so they tested me 
for a brain cancer, lung cancer,

643
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,500
all of the breast cancers heart 
disease, all Different things 

644
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:02,000
and I tested negative for 
everyone. 

645
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,400
So, every single month, while 
I'm here at work, I have a 

646
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,300
phlebotomist that comes in here 
and she test my tumor markers. 

647
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:12,500
So she'll draw, draw blood 
between my clients and then go 

648
00:32:12,500 --> 00:32:15,300
back. 
Send it, send this little sample

649
00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,200
off and they'll test the tumor 
that they took out during that 

650
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,000
surgery where they've moved the 
ovaries and they compare apples 

651
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,600
to apples. 
And by the grace of God, it has 

652
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000
been zero the whole time. 
Wow, that's freaking awesome. 

653
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,200
Yeah, I'm super excited. 
Mhm, and some. 

654
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,800
And let me tell you, man, you 
appreciate the most simplest 

655
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,600
things. 
So much more and to help the 

656
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,800
ability to be able to help 
people going through this. 

657
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:45,500
I mean, Robert, I've had three 
people come to me with cancer 

658
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:48,900
diagnosis in the last six months
that are my closest friends. 

659
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:51,300
There are just, it's like, spray
popping up everywhere. 

660
00:32:51,300 --> 00:32:52,800
It's crazy. 
Yeah. 

661
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,300
I feel like, I don't know. 
Like, I've been thinking about 

662
00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:59,800
this a lot lately, so I don't 
have cancer, but I have In so 

663
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,900
many people that are supposed to
me been diagnosed with it and 

664
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:05,800
not just cancer, but like, you 
know, heart disease, Strokes 

665
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,300
heart and all that stuff and I 
feel like like I'm a bird read a

666
00:33:09,308 --> 00:33:13,300
lot of stoic books. 
I love stoicism and keeping the 

667
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,700
idea on top of mind that we are 
mortal. 

668
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:18,300
There were going to die. 
Totally change the way we think.

669
00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,800
Like, I was driving back from 
California. 

670
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,600
They, we were there visiting 
Crystal's Family. 

671
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,500
We ain't seen him in three years
and we would like, right behind 

672
00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,900
this wreck and I we were like 
one of the first people on the 

673
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:29,400
scene. 
Chris and I both know CPR. 

674
00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:32,400
So we were seeing if we need to 
do anything to help and one of 

675
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,000
the guys that was in the wreck 
wasn't wearing a seatbelt flew 

676
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:38,000
through the window and was are 
lying unresponsive in the middle

677
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,400
of the highway. 
So we were there and we were 

678
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,300
like making sure he was 
breathing still, Sweden have to 

679
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,300
do CPR but we were making sure 
he wasn't moving. 

680
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,400
So we can, you know, mitigate 
any risk of him, having spinal 

681
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,700
damage, anything then but like 
total road rash all over his 

682
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:54,500
body and the guy that it was 
with him you know how to see 

683
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:57,600
build almost totally fine. 
But he was like totally losing 

684
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,400
his shit because I mean this was
his friend that just flew 

685
00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:02,600
Windshield. 
Yeah, did but like I was just 

686
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,100
thinking, like what if this was 
crystalling on the highway, 

687
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:07,500
where this is my son rides are, 
my parents are me. 

688
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:09,900
You know, how would that affect 
the rest of my family and like, 

689
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:14,000
seeing all that, you know, 
firsthand and then imagining it.

690
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Be somebody close to me or 
myself. 

691
00:34:16,300 --> 00:34:20,000
It's like when you have death 
and you stare it in the face, 

692
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,000
which is what I would imagine, 
everybody with a cancer 

693
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,300
diagnosis does. 
Yes, it's like you appreciate 

694
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,600
life and you appreciate the 
little things that most people 

695
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
take total for granted. 
On a whole nother level. 

696
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,500
Like, when you watch a sunrise 
that means you have another day,

697
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:36,300
you never guaranteed another 
Sunrise. 

698
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:39,500
How many peeps, right? 
Throw their day away because 

699
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:41,699
they're sitting in a job. 
They don't like, they're not 

700
00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:43,300
taking care of their body. 
They're not taking care of their

701
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:46,400
health or eating shit food. 
They don't fill their mind with 

702
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,500
positive things. 
They just consume all the 

703
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:50,699
negative terminal at the world 
forces on you. 

704
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:53,500
Like you have the distort the 
choice to figure out what you 

705
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,699
what you consume both 
figuratively and metaphorically.

706
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,600
And I feel like so many people 
if If they had, they were 

707
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,200
staring death in the face, like 
having a cancer diagnosis gives 

708
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,600
the opportunity to do it would 
1,000 percent change how you 

709
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,300
look at the day-to-day. 
Absolutely. 

710
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:12,100
That's man. 
Did you ever hear anything back 

711
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:15,100
about the accident or know you 
guys know we keep looking like 

712
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,500
Crystal keeps looking online and
we're not finding things do not 

713
00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:18,600
post anything. 
I don't know if that's a good 

714
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:23,000
thing or bad thing, but since 
I'm positive, positive vibes, 

715
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,100
that way for sure. 
I've had that happen a few 

716
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,700
times. 
I had a so we crash right in 

717
00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:29,300
front of me and I want first 
person on the scene. 

718
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,000
A plane crash, holy smokes. 
And that guy did not make it. 

719
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,700
I mean he made it like one day 
and then he died in the hospital

720
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:39,200
the next day, but like things 
like that, you're never 

721
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,400
guaranteed tomorrow. 
So I feel like I mean you got it

722
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,400
almost have that like just 
imagine that reality and have it

723
00:35:46,408 --> 00:35:49,300
keep it front of mind because it
changes the way I think I'm 

724
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:50,300
probably thinking about this 
more. 

725
00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,500
So now that I have a son that's 
five months old and I want to be

726
00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:57,900
a good role model to him but 
like I don't know like people 

727
00:35:57,900 --> 00:35:59,300
that have these cancer 
diagnosis. 

728
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,300
They have these, you know, 
life-altering, you know, news 

729
00:36:03,300 --> 00:36:06,300
forced upon them. 
It's oftentimes seen as this 

730
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:10,300
massive - and I mean, it kind of
is but you have the ability to 

731
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:14,500
leverage that because it gives 
you a new lens to look through 

732
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:17,600
life with that. 
Most people totally don't ever 

733
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,100
really take advantage of. 
Well, that's that's kind of like

734
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:23,900
how I approach this because when
I very first got my diagnosis, 

735
00:36:23,900 --> 00:36:27,000
like, after I got out of the ER,
and you know and then they're 

736
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,700
like, you got to go meet with 
oncology. 

737
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,400
You're kind of in a daze like 
it's a complete like what the 

738
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,500
hell are these people talking 
about? 

739
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:37,600
Like I'm healthy there. 
This is not. 

740
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,900
No, no, no. 
This is not. 

741
00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,600
Okay. 
And the gynecologist said, 

742
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,000
diagnose, me, look me right in 
the eye and started crying 

743
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,400
telling me. 
I'm so sorry. 

744
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,400
I'm so sorry. 
And I like, put my hand up. 

745
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,900
And I said, listen, stop, how do
we fix it? 

746
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,600
And he's like, I don't know. 
And then he proceeded to tell me

747
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,900
that his mom had died of 
cervical cancer, and all this 

748
00:36:57,900 --> 00:36:59,900
net. 
And I'm like, The crow. 

749
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:02,500
I've now set back my arms 
crossed my legs cross. 

750
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:03,600
I'm like I'm not going to die 
from this. 

751
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,100
If I'm gonna die from something 
is not going to be from cancer. 

752
00:37:06,100 --> 00:37:08,700
I will promise you that it is 
not going to be from this 

753
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,300
because you guys slipped up, 
when you said this, could have 

754
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:13,600
been here for 10 years. 15 
years, 20 years. 

755
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:18,800
It is a slow-growing tumor. 
I'm going to reverse this. 

756
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,200
If we could do it in animals, we
could do it at people. 

757
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,300
The problem is, as you guys 
don't want to tap into it, this 

758
00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:26,800
was a conversation I had because
it doesn't make you money. 

759
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,300
The pharmaceutical industry is 
an industry. 

760
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600
If I go do my natural medicine, 
you guys are going to push me 

761
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,800
off. 
Tell me go deal with my quacks 

762
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400
which they actually did and go 
do my thing. 

763
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,900
And you know what I am because I
got one shot, I got one body is 

764
00:37:40,900 --> 00:37:43,500
my body, my choice, a doctor 
works for me. 

765
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,000
I do not work for a doctor 
period, end of story. 

766
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:47,900
And that's the thing is a lot of
people don't realize they have 

767
00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:49,200
choices. 
Got a choice. 

768
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,100
Like you said, what? 
You put in your mouth, what you 

769
00:37:51,100 --> 00:37:54,200
put on to go to work, you know 
what you, where you drive, where

770
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,100
you go, what you do. 
But people are so robotic 

771
00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:59,600
because they pick up the phone. 
First thing in the morning, And 

772
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,000
they disconnect and they 
disconnect for the rest of the 

773
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,800
day and then all of a sudden you
get a diagnosis and then they're

774
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,100
like, oh, that's it. 
I'm dead. 

775
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,200
You know, like I hate to say it 
like that, but it's true. 

776
00:38:08,900 --> 00:38:11,000
Yeah, I chose to run a different
direction. 

777
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:14,400
I think that's good. 
I feel like mean, I think the 

778
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,300
majority, you know, of all the 
people in the medical field, I 

779
00:38:17,308 --> 00:38:18,700
feel like the majority of the 
doctors out there. 

780
00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:20,900
I think the majority of the 
people out there have really 

781
00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:22,400
good intentions that are doing 
great work. 

782
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:27,200
So there's a lot of there's a 
massive lag effect with, you 

783
00:38:27,207 --> 00:38:30,500
know, The Cutting Edge research 
and that being implemented into 

784
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:33,700
Medical Practice. 
Certainly within that. 

785
00:38:33,700 --> 00:38:36,400
There's a lot of things going 
left on say, within, you know, 

786
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,900
big Pharma big insurance 
company, listen to really 

787
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,500
insightful podcast about that on
the way, all the way back from 

788
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:43,600
California to. 
And it's just it's just kind of 

789
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,000
crazy. 
Some of the stuff that goes on 

790
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,200
behind the scenes that people 
aren't really pretty salute Lord

791
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,100
facing. 
And I feel like, you know, if if

792
00:38:50,100 --> 00:38:52,700
you, if you have a cancer 
diagnosis and you want to do 

793
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:55,500
what's right by your body, and 
you've got, you know, a variety 

794
00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,600
of things at your fingertips. 
Like it only makes sense that 

795
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:01,000
you would try and do everything.
Some reasonable something 

796
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
reasonable just to give yourself
the best chance possible and I 

797
00:39:04,008 --> 00:39:07,300
feel like doubling down on one's
nutrition and lifestyle factors 

798
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:10,200
is probably going to give you 
the most bang for your buck as 

799
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,500
opposed to some experimental 
drug. 

800
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,900
Not that there's some can be 
some benefit to those 

801
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:17,900
experimental drugs but if I got 
diagnosed with cancer tomorrow 

802
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,100
I'm going to be doubling down on
my nutrition. 

803
00:39:20,100 --> 00:39:23,300
Environmental lifestyle factors.
I feel like that just absolutely

804
00:39:24,300 --> 00:39:26,200
and also you're probably reach 
out to people that. 

805
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,100
Hey what did you do? 
A natural approach? 

806
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:30,600
Did you follow this? 
This exact protocol because not 

807
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,500
everybody is different. 
And the other thing is to as 

808
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,900
I'll never forget, one of our 
sitting there at then the 

809
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,100
doctors like just get calories 
in just calories and I'm like, 

810
00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,400
dude, I'm a weightlifter. 
Obviously I know what calories 

811
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,900
is not just a calorie. 
He said you can have anything 

812
00:39:44,900 --> 00:39:46,600
you want. 
Just do not eat any 

813
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:49,900
antioxidants. 
No Berries, no Citrus know, 

814
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:53,900
whatever and I was like, what. 
It's like, yeah, just don't do 

815
00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:56,300
any of that. 
You can do that oxygen therapy, 

816
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:59,300
you can do whatever and I said, 
hold up, this lady. 

817
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:03,000
Here's eating Sonic and drinking
a milkshake and that's okay. 

818
00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:04,900
But I can't have some 
strawberries or blueberries. 

819
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,100
We said correct answer is in 
frame toxins, avoiding 

820
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:12,400
antioxidants, supposedly it the 
antioxidant vitamin C will 

821
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,400
interfere with the cisplatin, so
the the chemotherapy that 

822
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,400
they're using but I said again, 
the vitamin C compound. 

823
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,400
There's not enough concentrate 
and 75 grams of blueberries but 

824
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,800
this lady is eaten a 
double-decker supersize fry. 

825
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,500
With a chocolate milkshake with 
Oreos on top and she's cool and 

826
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:35,000
it's not interfering with it. 
You're right, it's feeding the 

827
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,300
cancer, it's not mitigating the 
medicine that she's thinking, 

828
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,500
yeah, it makes total sense. 
That's right there. 

829
00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:43,700
In that moment, my very first 
treatment, I was like, oh man, I

830
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,300
got to think outside the box, 
this isn't going to work. 

831
00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:49,300
So, yeah, it's kind of crazy 
how, like, when you start 

832
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:50,600
talking to people about 
nutrition. 

833
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,800
It becomes very obvious. 
If they place, you know, 

834
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,800
nutrition on much of a pedestal 
or not at all. 

835
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,500
I mean, there's there are 
certain people that I think 

836
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:03,100
probably the majority of people 
live by this code of ethics that

837
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:05,500
you know what you eat. 
Doesn't really have that much of

838
00:41:05,508 --> 00:41:09,300
an impact you can, you can eat 
kind of whatever you want as 

839
00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:12,100
long as it's within moderation 
and your you should be, you 

840
00:41:12,100 --> 00:41:15,000
know, fine and dandy and a lot 
of people if they've been 

841
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,000
diagnosed with, you know, a 
terminal disease or illness, 

842
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,800
they're like look, you've got a 
finite period of time to live. 

843
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,200
You might as well eat whatever 
you want and enjoy that. 

844
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,900
And I feel like that's just 
total the wrong way of thinking.

845
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:29,800
I mean if I'm getting at is if 
I've got, I mean I've I've had 

846
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,300
elderly people in my family, 
have had great grandparents, and

847
00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:36,400
grandparents, that would could 
1000% improve the last years of 

848
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,100
their life if they had simply 
eating better food, but they 

849
00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:42,000
kind of fell victim to this 
modality of. 

850
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,100
Like, look, I've only got a few 
years left. 

851
00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:46,300
I'm going to eat whatever the 
hell I want, but, you know, in 

852
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:49,200
doing so they just, you know, 
expedited their decline, which 

853
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,600
is just a very set. 
I mean, to me that that's not 

854
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:54,700
very empowering like I would 
rather be empowered knowing that

855
00:41:54,700 --> 00:41:57,400
what I choose to consume is 
going to dictate how I feel and 

856
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:02,100
perform Absolutely. 
And also like this that's so 

857
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:05,300
funny that now, I'm like the key
to war or whatever and it's so 

858
00:42:05,300 --> 00:42:07,800
funny because they're like we 
don't want you eating red meat. 

859
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,600
We don't want you eating 
anything really high fat too 

860
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:12,400
because we don't want to raise 
your cholesterol. 

861
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:15,000
And like, if my eyes could roll 
further back in my head, you 

862
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,500
wouldn't even see the color in 
them, okay? 

863
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:19,300
Because I was like seriously, 
bro, like that. 

864
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:22,700
But this is right here in this 
book right here, this is all 

865
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:25,600
like the medical journals and 
all the like meta-analysis is 

866
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,700
and everything. 
I was reading was like it says 

867
00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:32,700
right here that a high fat high 
like moderate maybe low protein 

868
00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:35,400
diet will help me get rid of 
this cancer. 

869
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,100
Like here, it's highlighted show
you, that's not true. 

870
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,700
That's old data. 
And I'm like, oh my God, this 

871
00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:42,900
guy's an idiot. 
So smart, but he's so dumb, you 

872
00:42:42,908 --> 00:42:45,200
know? 
Yeah, yeah. 

873
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,800
No, I think I mean, you gotta, I
feel like it's healthy to always

874
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,500
have. 
Is this like open mind and hear 

875
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:53,800
what everybody has to say? 
But then always absolutely 

876
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,500
everything that anything people 
say with this certain degree of,

877
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,200
you know, not necessarily 
distrust but just like we don't 

878
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,600
have everything figured out like
that. 

879
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,300
That is true across the board 
across Academia cross. 

880
00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:09,000
You know, the medical Literature
Like We with a lot of things 

881
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,100
especially with cancer research 
like cancer research has like 

882
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:14,200
we're just starting to scratch 
the surface on that. 

883
00:43:14,207 --> 00:43:15,700
There's a lot of things that 
we've learned a lot of things 

884
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:18,200
that we know, but anybody that 
says, they've got it all figured

885
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,700
out, know, the Cure. 
They're Talking at their ass, 

886
00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,300
they don't know. 
So I'm like you got to kind of 

887
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:27,100
take ownership of your own life 
and realize that nobody's going 

888
00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:29,000
to Care much about your life as 
you. 

889
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:32,800
So to put all of your faith into
some person who doesn't know you

890
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,400
from Adam, is probably not the 
best idea. 

891
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,900
That's right. 
And also, like I got for 

892
00:43:38,900 --> 00:43:42,000
diagnosis, I report I spoke with
four different. 

893
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,000
Doctors like oncology surgeons 
and all this stuff. 

894
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,300
I went to Emory University. 
I went to Augusta University. 

895
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:52,900
I went to Piedmont Hospital here
like in Athens Georgia. 

896
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:56,200
I went to four different people 
before I decided to pull the 

897
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,800
trigger on what I was going to 
do in every single person told 

898
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,100
me something different, how they
were going to treat me. 

899
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,300
And I was like huh? 
That's pretty interesting. 

900
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,600
I'm going to go with the least 
invasive one, my think. 

901
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:11,700
Yeah. 
And of course I I end up getting

902
00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:13,200
dr. 
Giggles that play science 

903
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,900
project with my body, you know. 
Yeah, but it's crazy. 

904
00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,700
It's green again. 
I think I think And not 

905
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:23,300
everybody but most people have 
the purest of intentions the 

906
00:44:23,300 --> 00:44:26,400
best intentions, but I mean, 
this is just so much that we 

907
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,200
don't know. 
So I think, you know, obviously,

908
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,500
whatever you did worked for your
body because like you said, you 

909
00:44:30,500 --> 00:44:34,700
have, you know, zero, you know, 
all these tests are showing zero

910
00:44:34,700 --> 00:44:37,200
growth zero advancement in the 
tumor cells, so whatever you're 

911
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:41,400
doing, keep doing it. 
Heck yeah, but I definitely will

912
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:44,200
definitely attribute that to a 
lot of what I've learned. 

913
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:49,400
Like reading your book, reading 
online and just also fun fact. 

914
00:44:49,500 --> 00:44:51,800
At the radiation was a blessing 
and a cure. 

915
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,700
So blessing being knocked out 
every bit of my microbiome and I

916
00:44:56,707 --> 00:45:00,500
had to reset my gut. 
That is a whole nother story, 

917
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,900
but I learned how to do that. 
So little and knocked out all my

918
00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:06,800
enzymes, everything pretty much.
I mean, you radiate everything 

919
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,300
you microwave, it all. 
I have never in my life, been 

920
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:12,700
able to digest red meat 
properly, didn't matter. 

921
00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,400
If it was 90/10 80/20 8550, 
whatever it did not matter. 

922
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,300
I could not digest fake. 
Ground beef. 

923
00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,500
Venison was fine but I couldn't 
do beef. 

924
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:27,200
Once I got done with that, that 
was the other reason why I kind 

925
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,800
of opened up to the key 
divorcing because it was healing

926
00:45:29,900 --> 00:45:34,500
mechanism added in all different
kinds of enzymes. 

927
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:38,400
And what is it? 
Protease has and lap cases, and 

928
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,300
all these different things. 
So, I was able to literally 

929
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:44,400
rebuild my stomach did this by 
myself, didn't go to a 

930
00:45:44,408 --> 00:45:47,600
specialist, starting ground beef
started. 

931
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:50,500
Eating steak was able to 
tolerate Dairy for the first 

932
00:45:50,500 --> 00:45:52,700
time ever. 
I do better with sheep and goat 

933
00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:54,900
though. 
And I was like holy crap like he

934
00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:59,700
do is definitely for me like 
this this life is for me and I 

935
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:01,400
thought that was pretty pretty 
interesting. 

936
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:02,800
Yeah, no, that's freaking 
awesome. 

937
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,400
So are you doing? 
Are you doing much vegetation 

938
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,100
at? 
All right now or not so much. 

939
00:46:07,500 --> 00:46:11,200
I'm doing a little bit so I did 
add in some like mixed greens. 

940
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,300
I do a little bit of onions. 
Most everything I do is like for

941
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:16,900
a purpose like the onions for 
the course attend and that 

942
00:46:16,900 --> 00:46:22,000
sulfur and it's obviously The 
Taste but I'm doing like more so

943
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,200
arugula and That cuz I 
supplement with magnesium's, I 

944
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,700
get magnesium in my IVs, a lot 
of intravenous. 

945
00:46:28,700 --> 00:46:32,500
I do that once a week. 
And but yeah, do I definitely do

946
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:34,000
greens. 
I do green beans. 

947
00:46:34,500 --> 00:46:38,300
So also everybody wants to know 
how many carbs do you eat some 

948
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:41,100
days? 
I 80 most days. 

949
00:46:41,100 --> 00:46:42,500
It's under 40. 
Yeah. 

950
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:45,300
And they lose their shit. 
When you say that they're like, 

951
00:46:45,300 --> 00:46:49,600
oh my God, how do you even live?
I'm like, I don't know it. 

952
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,900
A lot of fat you're on a high 
fat diet, you're gonna get heart

953
00:46:52,900 --> 00:46:55,500
disease. 
Guy they say that like straight 

954
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:58,600
up like, okay, cool Mo cancer 
didn't kill me. 

955
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,700
I think I'm good. 
You know, like I just joked 

956
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:04,500
about it, you don't know 
anything about this stuff and I 

957
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,200
also do better on a little bit, 
higher protein diet. 

958
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,000
So as of today, we actually just
did start a little mini cut, so 

959
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,900
I have a lot more to kind of 
showcase and report back to 

960
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:17,800
like, in the next eight to ten 
weeks and we're kind of doing 

961
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,200
your style to do it and that 
should be pretty cool. 

962
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:22,800
Yeah, you can post something for
sure. 

963
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,100
When is Next a show. 
I'm actually looking to do 

964
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:29,200
Nationals next year. 
So we're looking at met, so I 

965
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,900
got seven months, so we're 
looking at May, if I'm not 

966
00:47:31,900 --> 00:47:33,800
ready, then we're definitely 
going to pull the trigger in 

967
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:38,600
Chattanooga and in June. 
So I'm thinking about because I 

968
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,100
got up. 
My Peak is at right now, I'm 

969
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:46,600
sitting at 149 and I got my 
calories between 21 2400. 

970
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,200
I have had some days where it's 
like 26-28 and actually lost 

971
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:54,200
weight on those days which was 
pretty wild and Yeah man, she 

972
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,000
pulled my fat down just a little
bit proteins, kind of staying 

973
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:01,800
consistent and probably suck 9 
pounds off is what I'm looking 

974
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,300
at for the next ten weeks. 
Nice very slow. 

975
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:08,500
Yeah, very excited about it with
with you having to take hormone 

976
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:11,500
replacement therapy now. 
How would you compare the two? 

977
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,600
Like when you were doing a prep 
naturally versus now with you 

978
00:48:14,607 --> 00:48:17,100
have to take HRT? 
Has your body responding 

979
00:48:17,100 --> 00:48:20,300
differently. 
I don't know man because I 

980
00:48:21,100 --> 00:48:23,200
prepped it. 
I think it's all about mindset. 

981
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,500
I get excited. 
Like it's like you flip a switch

982
00:48:25,500 --> 00:48:28,700
and it's like, okay, it's time 
to prep and like, you get tired,

983
00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:31,600
you get kind of pissy, but I get
excited. 

984
00:48:31,700 --> 00:48:33,700
I feel exactly the same right 
now. 

985
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:36,700
I feel like how I did before I 
got my diagnosis, to be honest, 

986
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,400
what I did note, yes, the thing 
that I did notice a difference 

987
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:45,300
because I have a prescription or
thyroid medication because my 

988
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:47,800
thyroid shriveled up, like my 
ovaries, adult everything, got 

989
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:51,100
scrambled. 
Old and when I have, I was like,

990
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,000
I'm gonna try to not take my 
thyroid medicine for like two 

991
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,200
weeks, bro. 
No dice, no dice, no everything 

992
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:01,300
down regulated. 
I was miserable. 

993
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,100
I was sad. 
I started getting hot flashes 

994
00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:05,800
again, from not taking thyroid 
medicine, and I was like, 

995
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,000
probably keep everything exactly
the same way. 

996
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,500
Um, it has been. 
So the only thing that we have 

997
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:15,000
changed now this, I don't know 
if many of your listeners and 

998
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,300
not many people women do this 
but we're doing in a cyclical 

999
00:49:19,300 --> 00:49:25,100
HRT which is kind of a headache.
So it's like I have I think I 

1000
00:49:25,100 --> 00:49:27,800
take point five units of 
testosterone. 

1001
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,000
It's like in a little tiny 
diabetic needle and then my 

1002
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,100
estrogens at like two units. 
I take the estrogen twice a 

1003
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:39,800
week, so I do that for nine days
and then no estrogen, and then 

1004
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,500
we cycle the progesterone. 
So literally everything has got 

1005
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:44,400
to be like clockwork written on 
a calendar. 

1006
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:49,800
There's got to be a alarm and so
I cycled the certain In kemetic,

1007
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,900
a cycle. 
That make sense. 

1008
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:53,500
Yeah. 
And you probably have to change 

1009
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:55,800
those as you get? 
Yes cleaner. 

1010
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:58,200
Yes. 
Because everything down 

1011
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,400
regulates so that should be 
interesting in itself. 

1012
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,400
Yeah. 
That sounds like a pretty hefty 

1013
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,300
math equation right there. 
Yeah. 

1014
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:08,200
It sounds like Street. 
You'll have to figure it out 

1015
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,700
because my coach has got enough 
athletes to deal with. 

1016
00:50:10,700 --> 00:50:13,300
So but you know I'll figure it 
out like I do with everything. 

1017
00:50:13,700 --> 00:50:15,600
Well that's awesome. 
Me competing and I mean I think 

1018
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,100
it's any time someone has to go 
through some serious. 

1019
00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:21,000
This turmoil, you know, 
especially your situation being 

1020
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,700
diagnosed with stage 3 cancer 
than coming out of that better 

1021
00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:26,000
than ever. 
Like, I love stories like that. 

1022
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,300
I mean people, I people there's 
so much fear Monger in the 

1023
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:30,900
world. 
People are always scared about 

1024
00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,700
whatever's next, whatever's on 
the horizon. 

1025
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,100
People always telling you you 
can't do something. 

1026
00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:36,900
So I always appreciate hearing 
from somebody that has been told

1027
00:50:36,900 --> 00:50:39,700
they can't do something and then
just totally proved them. 

1028
00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:42,000
Otherwise if like that that's 
what the world needs to hear 

1029
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,600
more of I gotta say are you 
close to your grandparents? 

1030
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,300
Yeah. 
Are you so so my grandfather and

1031
00:50:49,300 --> 00:50:51,300
my grandmother they raised me 
when I was a little ahead of 

1032
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:54,600
crazy upbringing with my my dad 
my step monster. 

1033
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:56,400
But anyway that's a whole nother
story too. 

1034
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,600
So my grandfather raised me and 
he actually had to come out of 

1035
00:50:59,607 --> 00:51:03,700
retirement when he was 72 years 
old to go work at Publix to be a

1036
00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:07,300
Bag Boy and to help people, he's
like a greeter just so he could 

1037
00:51:07,300 --> 00:51:10,300
support me and take care of me. 
So my grandfather ended up 

1038
00:51:10,300 --> 00:51:12,600
staying in Florida because I'm 
originally from South Florida. 

1039
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,900
And he actually moved in with us
that year of my diagnosis. 

1040
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,100
We went down, we scooped him up,
95 years old, this man lived 

1041
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,200
with us. 
Now, whenever got him, he was in

1042
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,500
a wheelchair and he couldn't, he
couldn't move because the home 

1043
00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:28,700
that he was staying at, he was 
so dehydrated. 

1044
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:32,200
He was with us for 10 days man. 
We started pounding him with 

1045
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,300
like liquid IVs and feed him 
protein higher, put my 

1046
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:37,100
grandfather on a high protein 
diet. 

1047
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,800
He was walking around with his 
walker over his head within 

1048
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,500
days. 
When I say this, because he 

1049
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:46,000
moved in with me, Me January. 
I got my diagnosis in February 

1050
00:51:46,100 --> 00:51:48,000
and I wanted to get my 
grandfather, the best like that 

1051
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:52,000
he could have before, you know, 
he left the planet and I got 

1052
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,800
that diagnosis and I kept it so 
quiet. 

1053
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,600
And if it wasn't for him being 
there, I will tell you that my 

1054
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,800
mindset probably be different 
than it is now because I wanted 

1055
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,100
him to live his best life. 
So, in the meantime, I was 

1056
00:52:03,100 --> 00:52:05,600
handled my ship and I had to 
handle it, you know, I'd go to 

1057
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:06,900
radiation. 
I go to my chemo. 

1058
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,800
I'd come home and he'd be like, 
Jen is everything, okay? 

1059
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:12,600
I'm like, yeah, I'm good. 
I felt like death, man. 

1060
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,200
But he's what really got me 
through my husband is what 

1061
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,900
really got me through like that 
support system. 

1062
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,800
It wasn't on my mental muscle. 
Yeah, but having that having 

1063
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,600
that in my life was was like a 
big, big deal to kind of get me 

1064
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:31,600
through. 
So I step on that stage for him 

1065
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,200
because I loved he was so proud 
of me when he went to see what I

1066
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,000
did. 
He also said Gee and I ain't 

1067
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,700
never seen so many bronze butts 
in my life, but you do what you 

1068
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:43,500
got to do, just go win. 
Win. 

1069
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:47,000
And so when I placed dead last 
at Stone but I still got up 

1070
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,500
there this time. 
I'm doing it for my grandfather 

1071
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,700
and I'm not going to be last. 
I promise you that. 

1072
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,000
I believe it. 
I believe wholeheartedly. 

1073
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,200
That's awesome. 
I feel like I feel like we live 

1074
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,900
in this Society this culture now
which people want to dwell on 

1075
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,700
their shortcomings, their short 
straws there, you know, 

1076
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:06,200
setbacks, but I feel like 
whenever you can, you know, 

1077
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:09,900
connect with somebody that's had
it much worse or is he having it

1078
00:53:09,908 --> 00:53:13,900
much worse, then it. 
You know, for better for worse, 

1079
00:53:13,900 --> 00:53:17,100
it makes you not have that 
victim mentality. 

1080
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:19,900
Like, you're able to write be 
stronger for somebody else and 

1081
00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:23,200
for like him who helped you in 
your time of need, you know, 

1082
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,600
when you were growing up to be 
able to pay it forward and be 

1083
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,300
there for him when he needed you
most. 

1084
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,900
I mean, like, you would be 
selfish for you to dwell on your

1085
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,800
own diagnosis when he's in front
of you, want to live his best 

1086
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,300
life, you know. 
You don't want to straighten 

1087
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:37,500
that stress. 
So I think I think that was a 

1088
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:41,400
blessing for sure. 
Yeah, very grateful for that and

1089
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,300
you know, like people say all 
the time you're a Survivor, your

1090
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:46,900
this I look at myself as a 
survivor man, I'm a thriver. 

1091
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:50,200
I thrive through this stuff kind
of crap, like the thicker, the 

1092
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,800
muck the easier and you know I 
plow right through that shit and

1093
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,000
I've been like that my whole 
entire life I have come out 

1094
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,000
kicking and screaming man. 
Yeah, yeah I think I think 

1095
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:00,800
that's so huge. 
I had another podcast that. 

1096
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,600
I recorded a few months back 
with some of that was diagnosed 

1097
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:05,500
with cancer as well. 
And that's what he said to is 

1098
00:54:05,500 --> 00:54:08,000
like, everybody looks at cancer 
survivors and they just say that

1099
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,500
they say cancer, Divers. 
All your accounts about it's 

1100
00:54:10,500 --> 00:54:13,200
highly, you know, bundle you up 
and identify you, but I feel 

1101
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,100
like his whole thing to was like
thriving, you know, in serrated 

1102
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:19,700
of just surviving. 
I feel like that's way more 

1103
00:54:19,700 --> 00:54:21,700
empowering way to look at. 
Like, why would anybody just 

1104
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:22,400
wouldn't? 
Look at it? 

1105
00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:24,100
Merely as surviving like hell, 
no. 

1106
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:26,700
You're gonna Thrive now. 
Damn right. 

1107
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:30,800
It's hard to tell people that 
like hey I'm just making it or 

1108
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,600
hey, how's your cancer? 
This open a whole nother world 

1109
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,200
for me. 
It opened this opportunity to 

1110
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:37,700
sit here and talk to you on the 
phone. 

1111
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,100
It opened an opportunity to like
learn about naturopathic 

1112
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:43,000
medicine. 
That is so taboo and nobody 

1113
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,100
speaks of it learnt. 
I mean, I have learned so much 

1114
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:48,500
stuff in the last year and a 
half like and I can't get enough

1115
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:50,100
of it. 
I feel like a little sponge, I'm

1116
00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:51,400
like give me more. 
Give me more. 

1117
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,400
Let me learn. 
Let me share it when we do and 

1118
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,600
it's so cool. 
Like I mean, Get the 40, and 

1119
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,100
it's kind of like, everybody 
kicks back. 

1120
00:54:58,100 --> 00:55:00,100
Like, I feel like I'm just now 
hitting the gas. 

1121
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,100
Yeah, I don't subscribe to this 
over the Hillman town. 

1122
00:55:03,100 --> 00:55:05,600
It's like, people have this 
notion of certain age that like 

1123
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:07,600
when they reach the days, I can 
only gets worse from that. 

1124
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,500
A lot of people are still living
in their high school days. 

1125
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,100
You know like yeah I'm at the 
football team, they were part of

1126
00:55:12,100 --> 00:55:13,800
in high school. 
It's like you got to be excited 

1127
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,800
about what tomorrow holds 
because again you're not 

1128
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:17,600
guaranteed tomorrow. 
So you got to be always excited 

1129
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,900
about what's on the horizon. 
That's right. 

1130
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:21,900
When you lay your head on that 
pillow at night, man, you want 

1131
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:23,900
to know? 
Did I do what I needed to do 

1132
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:25,900
today? 
Like I'm on a comp like That's 

1133
00:55:25,900 --> 00:55:29,300
what I do every night and I'm 
like, um, okay, I'm cool. 

1134
00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,200
I like if I don't, if I didn't 
wake up the next day, I got my 

1135
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,100
shit done. 
I made people happy, I made 

1136
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:36,900
people smile, you know, I shared
shared my blessing. 

1137
00:55:36,900 --> 00:55:38,400
I guess you would say with the 
world. 

1138
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,700
Yeah, I think I think that's a 
really good litmus test. 

1139
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:45,200
Like, if you can be at peace 
with yourself, like if you were 

1140
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,600
to die today but be at peace 
with that. 

1141
00:55:47,900 --> 00:55:49,800
That that's a pretty good litmus
test for if you're living your 

1142
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,400
life in the proper manner for 
you. 

1143
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,600
I mean, I feel like for me 
personally if I was to die today

1144
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,600
like there's obviously still 
more things I don't want to do. 

1145
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:58,500
I don't feel like I've reached 
my potential by any means, but I

1146
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:00,900
feel like I would be at peace 
with that because I feel like I 

1147
00:56:00,908 --> 00:56:04,300
haven't I haven't I'm not living
with regret and I'm not living 

1148
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:08,900
with this weight of a grid over 
Saturday, maybe we've absolutely

1149
00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:12,600
man, I'm right with you. 
I get it, I love it, I love it. 

1150
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,600
When you get all kinds of things
in the pipeline for you, get the

1151
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,000
show coming up, you've got you 
just continuing to silence the 

1152
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,100
naysayers. 
Is there anything else exciting 

1153
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,700
that you get coming outside of 
the competition prep? 

1154
00:56:23,500 --> 00:56:26,600
Um not really man. 
I just I got clients coming at 

1155
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,100
me left and right so I'm blessed
with that. 

1156
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:31,100
That's for, that's for sure. 
Like in-house and online, which 

1157
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:34,100
is awesome. 
And let's just talk about, I 

1158
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:37,800
bought a keto brick bundle and 
they were gone and like seven 

1159
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,300
days. 
I'm just saying that was big 

1160
00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:43,900
part of my gains from my coach 
knows and I know this isn't, 

1161
00:56:43,900 --> 00:56:47,900
she's gonna hear this. 
So what an amazing product like 

1162
00:56:47,900 --> 00:56:51,600
I was blown away by it and also 
know gastrointestinal issues 

1163
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,900
with me, which is funny because 
I Not normally digest way dude 

1164
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:57,300
you crush it in the flavors were
freaking bomb. 

1165
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,000
Well, I'm certainly one of them 
in which one would you think? 

1166
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:04,600
Probably that macadamia nut one 
that sings Money? 

1167
00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:06,300
Yeah, I don't know what. 
Love them all. 

1168
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,500
They're so freaking good. 
Well, good good. 

1169
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:10,000
I'm certainly glad to hear that 
for sure. 

1170
00:57:10,900 --> 00:57:13,400
Yeah, a lot of people that 
switch over their digestion 

1171
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:14,700
completely in. 
They're doing like a corner of 

1172
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:16,200
War based diet. 
I mean Akita. 

1173
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:17,700
Brooke is definitely not like a 
Snickers bar. 

1174
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:20,200
So somebody's coming from that 
life, you know, stated American 

1175
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,700
that they often times make some 
pretty funny faces when they try

1176
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:23,800
to keep him here. 
First time. 

1177
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,300
So I'm glad to hear is love. 
Is it positive experience for 

1178
00:57:26,300 --> 00:57:28,300
you? 
I definitely see those in my 

1179
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:31,200
prep future, for sure. 
And also what we did was we got 

1180
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:34,900
on, I have some silicone like 
little circular, they look like 

1181
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:38,200
the size of a Reese's cup. 
So I melted down the, the mocha 

1182
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,200
one and the coconut one. 
Holy crap, and I mix those two 

1183
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:44,500
together and made a bunch of 
little cups, bro. 

1184
00:57:44,900 --> 00:57:47,900
Money, that was pretty, then 
they get really creative with 

1185
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:49,100
it. 
Like it's kind of cool for me to

1186
00:57:49,100 --> 00:57:51,800
see how people are, you know, 
taking the bricks and doing 

1187
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,100
stuff with that. 
I never would have thought about

1188
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,000
So it's pretty cool. 
Awesome. 

1189
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:57,300
Great job on that. 
Well, thank you, thank you. 

1190
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,400
Well, I'm excited for you. 
Definitely have to keep me 

1191
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,100
posted on how the prep unfolds, 
keep you posted on everything, 

1192
00:58:02,100 --> 00:58:04,300
like I'm always curious to see 
what you working on. 

1193
00:58:04,300 --> 00:58:07,100
As far as the the prep Endeavors
than just your health and in 

1194
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:10,900
general, you know, post cancer 
diagnosis, post kicking cancers 

1195
00:58:10,900 --> 00:58:13,800
ass, basically. 
Absolutely, man, thank you so 

1196
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:15,200
much for having me. 
I appreciate it. 

1197
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,100
And for all the content that you
guys put out, we grateful to 

1198
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:20,900
have this space, man. 
Like, you don't understand how 

1199
00:58:20,908 --> 00:58:22,600
much you changed my life, 
seriously. 

1200
00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:24,400
Well, that's true. 
We truly appreciate that's my 

1201
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,600
pleasure to have you on the 
podcast where people go to find 

1202
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,200
out more about you and follow 
along on your journey. 

1203
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:35,000
I'm on Instagram at streaky 
underscore Roberts and then my 

1204
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:38,100
my email is hippopotamus 
excited. 

1205
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:43,500
P P0 Q UA d, a mus at gmail.com.
Yeah, I didn't notice that 

1206
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:45,400
incessant. 
The zoom link for this podcast 

1207
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,100
sound like hippopotamus. 
That's probably the best email 

1208
00:58:48,100 --> 00:58:51,800
address of ever seen. 
I like it but Economist was 

1209
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,100
taken. 
Yeah. 

1210
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,100
I was three key. 
I can't thank you enough. 

1211
00:58:56,100 --> 00:58:58,300
Truly enjoy the conversation. 
Definitely keep in touch. 

1212
00:58:58,300 --> 00:58:59,200
If there's ever anything I can 
do. 

1213
00:58:59,300 --> 00:59:01,200
Absolutely, certainly don't 
hesitate to reach out and let me

1214
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,500
know. 
Thanks man, I appreciate it so 

1215
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:04,600
much. 
You have a great day. 

1216
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,500
You tune take care. 
All right. 

1217
00:59:06,500 --> 00:59:07,100
Bye.