1 00:00:00,100 --> 00:00:02,300 Well, hello there, ladies and gents Robert Sykes keto 2 00:00:02,300 --> 00:00:04,800 Savage.com. And today I have special guest 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,600 dr. Brooks tiller on the line, he is 4 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,400 a hunter. He is a ketogenic athlete. 5 00:00:10,500 --> 00:00:12,000 He is just an all-around cool, dude. 6 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,500 And we talked all about hunting. It's it's fun for me to be able 7 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:17,200 to bring someone on the show. That is an avid Hunter 8 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,000 themselves because then we could just sit around and talk. 9 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,100 Like we're at a campfire, we talk about hunting stories, talk 10 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:24,300 about how to cook the right venison. 11 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,900 It talk about it. Also, if you like hunting, if 12 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:29,800 you like the outdoors, if you like truly living. 13 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,000 And the, you know what, I actual Paleolithic lifestyle would be 14 00:00:34,300 --> 00:00:37,100 and take pride in knowing where your food comes from, then this 15 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:39,500 is your episode. So without further Ado, sit 16 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:41,900 back, relax and enjoy the conversation with dr. 17 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:53,500 Brooks teller and we're live. 18 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:55,500 How are you sir, man? I'm doing great. 19 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:56,500 I'm doing great router. How are you? 20 00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:58,300 I'm doing good, man. I'm doing good. 21 00:00:58,300 --> 00:01:00,800 I'm excited to talk because Well, for a lot of different 22 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:03,900 reasons but you are all about hunting and I'm all about 23 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:05,400 hunting, but I don't really have. 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,100 There's not a whole lot of opportunities for me to just 25 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:11,100 openly talk about hunting on my platform as it is currently, but 26 00:01:11,100 --> 00:01:13,900 I'm trying to change that. So let's just shoot the breeze 27 00:01:13,900 --> 00:01:16,700 minutes. Talk about hunting man, that's 28 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:19,300 that's what I love and, you know, a health and fitness world 29 00:01:19,300 --> 00:01:22,400 is were kind of you're at. And I'm just trying to blend the 30 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,400 hunting world and health, and fitness world. 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:28,900 And just get as many people out there hunting as we can, I think 32 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,000 it's like a match made in even when you look at it, I mean you 33 00:01:31,008 --> 00:01:35,100 look at the ketogenic diet you know paleo diet carnivore diet 34 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:39,100 most of us are eating quite a bit of meat and there's this 35 00:01:39,300 --> 00:01:42,900 disconnect oftentimes between the meat you're eating and where 36 00:01:42,900 --> 00:01:45,400 that meat comes from and I feel like people are starting to 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,800 recognize that and actively you know, learn more about you know, 38 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,600 agriculture regenerative farming trying to get get you know local 39 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:57,900 local contacts with them get their meat from people nearby 40 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:02,000 and since as opposed to going just the mass A feedlot beef but 41 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:05,100 hunting is like the crème de la crème. 42 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:08,699 That's where the the most nutrient-dense meat is and I 43 00:02:08,699 --> 00:02:11,500 don't know I feel like the more we can bridge that Gap with the, 44 00:02:11,500 --> 00:02:14,800 you know, Health Nutrition, keto carnivore space without actively 45 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,600 going out and getting your own food. 46 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:18,300 I feel like that's that's where it needs to go. 47 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:24,100 I believe so and you know for me it's really about being involved 48 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:29,000 in every step of the process and you know if we get a burger at a 49 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,600 fast food joint, Point. There's possibly 300 different 50 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,400 cows and that one Burger. But if you go out and get it, 51 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:41,600 it's it's actually probably cost you more than any meat you buy 52 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,000 at the store. But on top of that, I'll beat, 53 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,400 you know, where it comes from. There's a story behind it. 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,900 And does that sense of Pride that comes with gaining that 55 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:54,400 meat and enable to know what it's on your table? 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,400 If you're feeding your family you're feeding yourself, we want 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,400 the healthiest, we can get I want an animal who is Live the 58 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:06,600 life that it was designed and made to live and it lived that 59 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,200 life the way it was supposed to not, you know, not just a 60 00:03:09,208 --> 00:03:13,600 feedlot and hoping that, you know, it survived a couple of 61 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,400 years after getting pumped, full of a bunch of junk. 62 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:17,900 Hmm. Totally man. 63 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:22,700 And not only that, but when you, when you go out and you you hunt 64 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:25,700 and you harvest an animal and you you're the one that's 65 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:28,400 processing that animal, you know you're the one dragging it out 66 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:29,600 of the woods, whatever you're doing. 67 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:33,200 You're going to be pretty hard pressed to throw any of that 68 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,300 meat away. Like you want to salvage as much 69 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:38,100 of it as possible as you possibly can, when your, when 70 00:03:38,100 --> 00:03:41,100 your skin and processing it, but then after you've cooked it and 71 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:44,100 you're eating it, you're not likely to throw a bunch of it in 72 00:03:44,100 --> 00:03:46,700 the garbage bin like I hate food waste. 73 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:49,800 So if you're hunting, that's like the best way to minimize 74 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,600 that. I feel I believe so and because 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,100 you're you're in control of it and, you know, you can go 76 00:03:56,100 --> 00:03:58,200 through and you can take the heart out, you can take the 77 00:03:58,200 --> 00:03:59,800 liver, you can take the kidneys, you could. 78 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:03,100 Any part that you wanted the tongue, whatever it may be. 79 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:07,200 And you could use that as well as using all the muscle meat 80 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,400 that you're going to get and you can take the bones and you can 81 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:13,000 make bone broth out of it. And you can even if you wanted 82 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,399 to go, as far as you can take the hide and you could tan the 83 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,600 hide and you can make something out of that. 84 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,100 You could just take it as far as you want it. 85 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:23,600 To almost like you mentioned that Paleo lifestyle people talk 86 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,700 about all live like a caveman will like a caveman didn't just 87 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,100 you know take one big Chunk of steak and eat it. 88 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:36,500 Like, he ate every ounce of the food that they could get they, 89 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,300 and when you're out there hunting, you're taking that 90 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:45,800 animal, and it's a very intimate process. 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,800 It's nothing that I ever take for granted, there's nothing 92 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:55,500 about it that. I I ever ever take with like a 93 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:58,600 grain of salt if you I never think about it lightly. 94 00:04:58,700 --> 00:05:02,700 I mean, you are taking a life and it's that intimate intimate 95 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:05,800 moment that, you know, that like, I'm making this shot, I'm 96 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,300 going to make the most ethical shot. 97 00:05:07,300 --> 00:05:11,500 I want this animal to never suffer because this animal is 98 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:15,400 going to go home with me and feed my family, and whether it 99 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,700 be a bird, a squirrel, or a deer, or an elk, or whatever, 100 00:05:19,700 --> 00:05:21,300 maybe or even is a fish. Shhhh. 101 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:26,000 I want that animal to not suffer, you know, because I mean 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,400 it's an animal that suffers could have, they, you know, 103 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:30,800 there's things stress hormones that come through that could 104 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,400 actually make the meat not taste as good. 105 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,200 And I want that animal to, to be able to feed my family and to be 106 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,500 able to enjoy that. So that I can look back. 107 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:45,400 And I can give thanks that. That animal gave its life. 108 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,200 So that me and my family can have life and it's never 109 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,500 anything. I'd take for granted is I've 110 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:55,300 always appreciated and I think that that's one thing as a 111 00:05:55,308 --> 00:05:58,900 hunter. We see these trophy shots and if 112 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:01,400 you're not a hunter that's probably what you see on the 113 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,400 news is the trophy shots or whatever. 114 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,900 And that's not what hunting is all about. 115 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:10,100 Hunting is taking that animal. And for me, some of the, you 116 00:06:10,100 --> 00:06:13,700 know, my trophy shots is really the food that's on my plate. 117 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:17,900 It's not how big the animal is. When I'm in the woods, it's did 118 00:06:17,900 --> 00:06:22,000 this animal feed my family and I think that's one of the things 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,400 that the misnomers, in the news that we see is they call this 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,900 person killed this, you know, you see the it's kind of like 121 00:06:29,900 --> 00:06:33,300 anything. You see and hear about the bad 122 00:06:33,300 --> 00:06:38,400 apples and, you know, the hunter who illegally takes a monster 123 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,000 buck, you know, might shoot a monster buck in a mall that wash 124 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,900 across the mall parking lot or something like, you know, that 125 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:48,200 that guy like, you know, he shouldn't be hunting anyway. 126 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Like, you know, you should just, you know, you Consider your 127 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,400 lifestyle for that, you know, like what are you really doing 128 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,300 with your life? If you're going to shoot a, you 129 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:00,400 know, around a bunch of people. But for those who that those are 130 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,700 the ones that make the news. But for every one of those 131 00:07:02,700 --> 00:07:05,000 you've got so many people that are out there doing the right 132 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,100 thing. And if anybody wants to learn 133 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:10,700 how to hunt, it's about finding those people that are doing the 134 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:14,200 right things and ethically morally doing it for the right 135 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,000 reason. 100% agree, man. I mean, I don't really care too 136 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,000 much about the size of the array. 137 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:23,400 Rack on a deer, you know, like if you, if you happen to get a 138 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,700 big, dude, you got more me bigger body, dear and then I'll 139 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:30,500 sometimes Mount that deer like as a memory for that entire 140 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:33,400 experience, but that's never the Pinnacle, that's not the 141 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,200 priority. And I mean, my, I'm always going 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,200 out in the field, hunting meat. I meant my goal is to fill the 143 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,600 freezer for the coming year because I mean, honestly, every 144 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,200 like when I did my contest prep, this year, every single meal, 145 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,600 every single day, contained meat that I had killed. 146 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:52,700 I mean that's a lot of That's something I'm proud of because 147 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:57,200 I'm supplying my energy with high quality food that I process 148 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,300 myself, that I cook myself that I killed myself and that is a 149 00:08:01,308 --> 00:08:05,300 hell of a lot more rewarding than Iraq sitting on the wall, 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:08,500 especially if that's all it ever is. 151 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:11,000 You know, a lot of people do hunt just for the trophy and 152 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,100 that that tarnishes what hunting is all about. 153 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:17,300 It's unfortunate, but it does exist, and it's sad to think 154 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:21,000 that, you know, people see that and that alone. 155 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:24,600 Oz ways them away from the art and sport of hunting because 156 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,000 there is so much more to it than then. 157 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:31,200 I totally agree and you know it's one of those things that I 158 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:34,600 know that you're big on you you know working hard do the hard 159 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,100 stuff and that's really what I'm all about me and my hey you got 160 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:40,500 to do the hard things and it really makes those hard days not 161 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:43,000 so bad. That may be coming and in a 162 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,400 hunting is hard work and you know if you go to the grocery 163 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,300 store, you're seeing if we're going to get the high quality 164 00:08:50,300 --> 00:08:52,300 meat. We may pay seven eight, if it's 165 00:08:52,300 --> 00:08:54,500 ground meat. You know, we may say seven, 166 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:57,200 eight, nine dollars a pound or if it's Stake. 167 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,800 It could be 20 bucks a pound, but if you really look at the 168 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:04,500 cost that's going to go into hunting, you're probably going 169 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:09,900 to actually spend more per pound potentially that then you would 170 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:13,100 have the grocery store. And what's funny is, I found it 171 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:16,500 that my Hunting Buddies and myself my family. 172 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,700 I'm more likely to call somebody up and say, hey man, I've got a 173 00:09:20,708 --> 00:09:24,800 big deer roast cooking. Y'all want to come over and have 174 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,800 some hmm, But if I just go to the store and get a roast. 175 00:09:29,500 --> 00:09:32,500 I'm I'm not as apt to say hey won't you all come over. 176 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:34,900 It's just the you know for me it's just a garbage is just food 177 00:09:35,100 --> 00:09:38,900 but if it's you know if it's I take that pride and I got Manuel 178 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:45,500 this Something that I can share that I've been able to get from 179 00:09:45,500 --> 00:09:49,200 the wild and I'm able to share in his eye that you just kind of 180 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:51,300 like if you have a Lamborghini You're Gonna Let somebody borrow 181 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:52,200 it. But if you have an old beat-up 182 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,800 pickup truck, you're never gonna let me borrow it. 183 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,500 If that's the, kind of way I look at it and just because you 184 00:09:56,500 --> 00:10:00,600 want someone else to enjoy that deliciousness and just enjoy 185 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,900 that meal with you totally angry, man. 186 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:06,100 Totally agree. So, another thing like, this is 187 00:10:06,100 --> 00:10:08,500 something that doesn't even get talked about it, really, but a 188 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:11,900 lot of people look at Hunting as as a selfish thing, it's just 189 00:10:11,900 --> 00:10:16,100 for the hunter but like there's so much that goes into the sport 190 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,600 with a benefit to the wildlife population herds themselves. 191 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,600 I mean, my dad's a wildlife biologist and the reason that 192 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,000 there's a Game and Fish Commission, that puts a hunting 193 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,400 season out in the first place, is to manage that population so 194 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,700 that it improves over time. Instead of become overrun and 195 00:10:31,700 --> 00:10:37,500 decreasing quality. oh yeah, and it's one of those things I guess 196 00:10:37,500 --> 00:10:44,500 the the anti-hunting Population or groups, they put a lot of 197 00:10:44,508 --> 00:10:48,400 their money into just fighting the hunting. 198 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,100 Whenever when it comes down to, if you look at any of the 199 00:10:52,100 --> 00:10:57,600 wildlife, organizations, any of our license that you buy any of 200 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,400 the Raffles that you may put in for the drawers that you put in 201 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:06,700 forward to get a tag and even another, you know, organizations 202 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:12,500 a lot of that money goes back to conservation and every That you 203 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:16,400 buy outdoor equipment, you know, we could be camping equipment, 204 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,000 hiking equipment, even guns and ammo. 205 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:24,600 There's a portion of that money goes back to conservation. 206 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,800 And you know, it's just one of those things that Hunters at 207 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:33,900 their core are conservationist and a lot of people look like 208 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:37,100 Teddy Roosevelt. And you look at Teddy Roosevelt 209 00:11:37,100 --> 00:11:39,300 and depending on how you want to view him. 210 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:41,500 Like, oh well, he went out west and just killed a bunch of 211 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,800 Animals but the thing is that he didn't just kill animals. 212 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,200 He killed them, you know, he would study them and here 213 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,200 appreciated, the fact that he wanted to pass that on to others 214 00:11:52,700 --> 00:11:57,300 and and he educated others on the animal mean that he didn't 215 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:58,500 just kill them and leave them laying. 216 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,200 You know, they use that meat and they use everything and they 217 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,600 studied them and a scientific way. 218 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,900 And so, as Outdoorsman as just people that want to be outside 219 00:12:07,900 --> 00:12:12,300 whether you've used want to hike and bird watch and you just You 220 00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:14,800 know, look at the flowers and for if you want to forage 221 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:18,600 mushrooms, whatever it may be, part of the reason that we have 222 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,000 some of this public land and that we have the animals around 223 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:28,000 is because we have that conservation aspect built in to 224 00:12:28,300 --> 00:12:32,700 all of our outdoor organizations. 100% man, 100%. 225 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:34,900 So I want to kind of rewind a little bit. 226 00:12:34,900 --> 00:12:36,900 What? What got you into this sport in 227 00:12:36,908 --> 00:12:39,000 the first place? Like, will you just did you grow 228 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,200 up? I'm like, did your dad, teach 229 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,500 you how to hunt or have to have that all? 230 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,100 Come to be for as long as I can remember. 231 00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:49,600 I have been, it's been part of my life growing up. 232 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:55,900 My dad, my granddad hunted. That's how we fed our family and 233 00:12:56,100 --> 00:13:00,000 y'all remember during deer season, my granddad, he had it 234 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,100 all set up and you would you go over there and be my dad? 235 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:07,300 And my granddad, my uncle's and you would kill a deer and 236 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:09,700 everybody will. It was a family thing. 237 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:13,500 Everybody chipped in everybody. Dawn cutting up the dear. 238 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:16,700 You know, somebody might be gutting, a deer and somebody 239 00:13:16,700 --> 00:13:18,900 else is skinning a deer. And somebody else is cutting up 240 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:22,000 the meat and somebody else's packaging the meat and it's just 241 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,900 like this. It was almost you know, of a 242 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:27,400 quote unquote Factory but it was just all of our family just 243 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:31,400 working together and we put that meat together and throughout the 244 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,900 year, somebody may have killed for Dear. 245 00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:35,800 Somebody may have killed one deer, but throughout the year, 246 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,600 if somebody had a little extra meat, they would give it to 247 00:13:39,608 --> 00:13:41,500 somebody who maybe didn't have as much. 248 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:45,000 Much or, you know, when we would share with other family members 249 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,800 that didn't hunt, and so for me, ever, since I was little, it's 250 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:55,000 been a process of just, this is how we provide for our family 251 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:58,300 and I mean, we would rabbit hunt squirrel hunt. 252 00:13:58,500 --> 00:14:01,000 We would, you know, hunt birds, whatever it may be. 253 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:05,500 But part of it was just the being outdoors. 254 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:07,900 We would we spend our summers fishing. 255 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,400 And, you know, it was just like that time of this. 256 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:15,400 This is the, the nature. This is, you know, God's Brett. 257 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,500 Give it. Give us all this greatness that 258 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,800 we can experience. We can just enjoy this. 259 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,700 Let's just in, you know, enjoy it for all it's worth and, and 260 00:14:24,700 --> 00:14:28,300 in in that, you know, my granddad taught, my dad, my 261 00:14:28,300 --> 00:14:33,700 uncles, and they all talked me, and it's just been a passing, it 262 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:35,300 along. And I had that experience of 263 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:40,300 just having that Mentor worship I love it. 264 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:42,900 I think that is something that is done for having me. 265 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:45,000 Those people pour into me and just share me. 266 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:50,400 Yeah, absolutely. Do you feel like the like that 267 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,300 people are going that direction now, or do you fight? 268 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:55,800 That's something that's starting to kind of taper off. 269 00:14:57,900 --> 00:15:01,400 I think that people are starting to get back to that especially 270 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,500 with some of the stuff that we've gone through with people, 271 00:15:04,700 --> 00:15:06,700 not able to find meat in the store. 272 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,500 And people want to be a little more self-sustaining. 273 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:12,600 I feel that people are now. Alright, how can I make sure to 274 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,800 feed my family? And we've always thought that 275 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:17,600 you work a job, you get paid money, you go to the store, you 276 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:21,100 buy the food and that's it. But I think people are into 277 00:15:21,100 --> 00:15:23,300 case, I think they're going to be a little more self-sustaining 278 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,800 so that they can provide. And I think there's also folks, 279 00:15:27,700 --> 00:15:30,400 They're looking like we talked about, they're looking at how 280 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,800 the food, how their food is is raised and, you know, we are 281 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,800 what we eat, but more than that, we are what we eat. 282 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:41,000 Has eaten. Yeah, very good. 283 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,800 You know, when I look at it is like, if you look at a deer 284 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,400 running through the woods, it's graceful, it's powerful. 285 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,400 It's fast, it's strong, it's lean. 286 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:58,900 Or you look at a cow eating in a pasture like they they don't 287 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:02,800 move very much. And while the cow may have a lot 288 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:06,800 more meat on it, that deer I just feel like if I'm going to 289 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,800 become something, I'm going to eat that deer. 290 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,500 I would rather become more like that dear then the cow. 291 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:14,900 And for me, I think there's a lot of people that are looking 292 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:18,500 at that and want to have that responsibility of, you know, 293 00:16:18,500 --> 00:16:23,000 instead of having someone else. Kill a cow and then me get it in 294 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,300 a package. Let me go out and harvest this 295 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:28,100 animal, let me raise a chicken, whatever. 296 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:31,700 Maybe let me do the process of from ground up and I think 297 00:16:31,700 --> 00:16:33,700 that's a little bit of a surge coming on. 298 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:38,800 Now, you know, they say that as Hunters, the average population 299 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:43,700 has been increasing every year and the number of license bought 300 00:16:43,700 --> 00:16:46,800 has been decreasing. But I I've seen a little bit of 301 00:16:46,808 --> 00:16:50,500 a surge in the younger population especially those 302 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:54,200 Involved in the health and fitness that are wont to be 303 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,000 healthy. They want to eat the healthy, 304 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:58,700 good food. And that's what they're after, 305 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:02,300 and they realize they've got this Wild game running around 306 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:06,900 that, like, I would rather be like a deer or an elk, able to 307 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:10,599 come out in two seconds that, you know, then a cow that's just 308 00:17:11,099 --> 00:17:13,000 munching on clover in the pasture. 309 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:16,800 So, I think that's one thing that's really beneficial that 310 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,400 people are seeing this little Surge and they're getting more 311 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,800 involved in. And now, Days with the internet, 312 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:25,200 with the programs that are out, there's more opportunity for 313 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:31,000 people to learn from experienced Hunters, who are doing it for 314 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,200 the right reason. I totally agree. 315 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,600 I feel like it's interesting to see because I feel like a lot 316 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:40,100 of, you know, parents aren't necessarily teaching their kids 317 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:44,100 at home because that's kind of I think that's become less and 318 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:47,100 less just the tradition, unfortunately. 319 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,600 However, I feel like because of social media, Influencers. 320 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,400 And all the hype that that is, you do have some very 321 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,900 influential people. I mean like you got Rogan that's 322 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:59,400 getting into bow hunting now, the go research, bow hunting and 323 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,000 millions of people. Here is podcast and I hope that 324 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,400 sounds like something about when you get into. 325 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,200 So you have these big influencers that are kind of 326 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,200 showcasing and Paving the way for what's possible. 327 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,900 And I feel like people are starting to see that here, that 328 00:18:11,900 --> 00:18:14,300 and look at it in a positive light again. 329 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:16,900 And that's exciting to me because I feel like that, that 330 00:18:16,900 --> 00:18:19,100 could be leading to that Surge and that can scale. 331 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:22,200 I believe so, and you mentioned Joe Rogan. 332 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,200 And well, I think one of the best podcast about the hunting 333 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,800 that he did, was actually with Russell Brand who's a vegan. 334 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:30,800 Mmm. And it was really interesting to 335 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,700 hear them and it was eye opening for. 336 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:38,200 A lot of people that you've got this guy, who is now a hunter, 337 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:41,700 having a conversation with a vegan and they're able to agree 338 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,000 on, you know, Rogue is like, hey, I hunt because I want 339 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,900 someone on meat comes from and Russell Brand who's a vegans. 340 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:50,800 Like, okay, I understand that but you It wasn't like a you 341 00:18:50,808 --> 00:18:55,000 know they're arguing about the legals and the rights and you 342 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,900 know, just the animal feel this or whatever. 343 00:18:56,900 --> 00:18:58,900 But it was one of those things where, if you're going to eat 344 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:02,000 meat, yeah, go get it yourself and it was a really interesting 345 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,500 idea. And I think for anybody who is 346 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:09,400 into the ketogenic or the carnivore space, where you're 347 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,300 interested in this stuff like you know, he had some good 348 00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:16,900 points of how you can talk to someone who maybe have 349 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:18,900 completely different views than you. 350 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:22,700 But still be able to agree and I think that's as an Outdoorsman 351 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:26,400 as a hunter. You know, I do get some attacks 352 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,700 on. Why do you hunt just go to the 353 00:19:28,700 --> 00:19:33,400 store and get meat and for me, I think that it helped me just to 354 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,700 have a good few points of like, hey well this is why I do it. 355 00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:43,000 And I think that if, you know why you do Something then you're 356 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,600 better able to explain it but then I mean if you know why you 357 00:19:45,608 --> 00:19:47,900 do it, you can explain it to others and you can share it with 358 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:50,900 others. 100%. I feel like at the end of the 359 00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:54,800 day, a lot of what the vegans want is pretty similar to what a 360 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,000 lot of the hunters want. I mean, we all take care to 361 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,800 like, improve the wildlife population conservation, like we 362 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,700 don't want to see suffering. Like a lot of those Visions are 363 00:20:05,700 --> 00:20:07,800 pretty well, you know, hand in hand in the line with one 364 00:20:07,808 --> 00:20:10,900 another, there's just this disconnect because, you know, At 365 00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:14,000 first glance there seems to be a pretty profound stark contrast. 366 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 But if you have a, you know, intelligent conversation and 367 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,300 treat each other with respect, like adults, then I feel like 368 00:20:19,300 --> 00:20:20,800 there's some common ground there for sure. 369 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:24,000 Oh for sure. And I've had conversation with 370 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:28,900 vegans and friends who work with vegans and it's interesting that 371 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:32,500 there's a few folks that call themself vegan hunters. 372 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,200 And what they're saying is like, they're a vegan, except they 373 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,300 will eat meat that they have actually harvested themselves 374 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,900 and it's an interesting concept. Yeah, I mean it makes sense 375 00:20:43,900 --> 00:20:46,100 though. I mean like if I mean I'd 376 00:20:46,100 --> 00:20:47,900 rather, yeah, I could totally get behind that. 377 00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:49,200 I can call myself a vegan Hunter. 378 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,200 Exactly. Hmm. 379 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,500 I like that. I like that. 380 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:56,200 So, what about key demand? I had, you get an Aikido and low 381 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,800 carb and have that kind of come into play. 382 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:03,400 Well, I was, it was, it's been several years back and I'd 383 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,100 always been kind of low carb and I've been tweaking with things 384 00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:10,200 and I'm always, you know, as an athlete just I try something, 385 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,100 how does it make me feel? Am I performing better? 386 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:17,600 And I just started kind of diving into the keto space and I 387 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,600 got the call to be on American Ninja Warrior. 388 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,600 And about a week before the actual going on in the going to 389 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:29,200 the show and be recorded. I rolled my I was doing the 390 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,700 crazy trick that I probably shouldn't have been doing trying 391 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:36,100 something crazy and rolled my ankle severely and it just 392 00:21:36,100 --> 00:21:38,600 swelled up. And it was interesting that I 393 00:21:38,608 --> 00:21:43,700 had just recently went gone to a very ketogenic diet and the 394 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:47,600 inflammation within a week. I was able to perform and, you 395 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,500 know, get to be on TV and everything for American Ninja 396 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:53,200 Warrior. Where I know that if I'd been 397 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,200 eating, a normal sugar-laden chemical-laden diet, like that, 398 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,700 inflammation would still be there. 399 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,100 And there's no way I could run across, you know, some of these 400 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,300 crazy things on the show. And after that, I was like, 401 00:22:05,300 --> 00:22:09,400 there's something to this. And I just kept diving in, you 402 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,400 know, diving in more diving and more and it's found podcast like 403 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,500 you and Danny Vega and different ones where we can. 404 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:19,600 I could learn more about how to actually do this and it just fit 405 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,700 in perfectly. With my lifestyle as an 406 00:22:22,700 --> 00:22:27,000 Outdoorsman and I was like, oh I go out, I get venison, I get L, 407 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:31,200 could get deer turkey, whatever. Maybe I can get these things and 408 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:36,900 they are a ketogenic Primal food, and it just made perfect 409 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:39,800 sense. And fit in perfect with my diet 410 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,800 with the way I live. But also, it helped me in the 411 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:48,700 way I feel and I'm somebody, I'm an add kind of guy. 412 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,700 I've got 100 ideas at all. Times. 413 00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:54,500 And I noticed, as I do, more into the ketogenic, as I got 414 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:59,000 more into ketosis, I would wake up energized. 415 00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:02,500 I would wake up and it's like my brain was almost on foul on 416 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,000 fire. I can tell, you know, my skin 417 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,600 felt better. My skin look better. 418 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,000 My hormones are more balanced. How do you know? 419 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,800 It wasn't feeling as wonky. I was feeling better and I 420 00:23:12,808 --> 00:23:16,900 didn't have that blood sugar. I could go, I could go hunting 421 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:21,100 and I could not I can just carry, I just Some water and 422 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:24,600 that's about it. And I can go all day and I would 423 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,800 not have the crash. I would not have these things. 424 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,600 I could fat, you know, you'll go more into a fasting component. 425 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,500 So it was just all these benefits just piling on top and 426 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:38,100 I was like, something about this is is right and finding more and 427 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:41,300 more about the ketogenic diving more in and with everything that 428 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,900 I learned through Medical School, wasn't necessarily 429 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:48,200 matching up with what I was experiencing as like. 430 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,600 Oh, you're supposed to eat like every 3 hours, you know, Do you 431 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,800 know doing all this other stuff and but as you go dive in you 432 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,200 like, okay, there's something to this. 433 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,800 And once you experience it it was like all right, there's no 434 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,100 doubt. This is helpful and through that 435 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:07,200 I've been able to help a lot of other outdoorsmen get better and 436 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,700 be able to spend more time in the woods without having to 437 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:14,200 worry about, oh, I've got to get back home to eat oatmeal or I 438 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,600 got to get back home to get a muffin because I'm hungry or I 439 00:24:16,608 --> 00:24:20,600 got to carry a Little Debbie's in my backpack and instead Is it 440 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,700 go? I can go and sit in a deer stand 441 00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,200 for eight hours or I can go on a hike for a couple hours and not 442 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,300 have to worry about bringing a bunch of snacks, totally man. 443 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:32,900 Like when you look at hunting to the lens of it being a extreme 444 00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:36,000 sport which it has every right of being deemed as an extreme 445 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,600 sport depending on what comes out perfectly. 446 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,300 I mean, I look at like I interview endurance athletes, I 447 00:24:41,308 --> 00:24:43,500 interview body, butters, I interview everybody that's doing 448 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:47,100 the ketogenic diet and I can hear how its benefited their 449 00:24:47,100 --> 00:24:48,700 performance. When you put that through the 450 00:24:48,700 --> 00:24:51,600 same scope from a Hunting standpoint. 451 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,200 I mean if you're doing like a like, like a, like just go to 452 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,300 the opposite, you know, crazy extreme so you're getting 453 00:24:57,300 --> 00:25:00,500 dropped off in Alaska and you're spending a week in Alaska going 454 00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:02,400 after Caribou or moose or something. 455 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:06,900 I mean you're gonna have to carry significantly less food. 456 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,600 You're going to have much more sustained energy, you're going 457 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,000 to be able to recover faster, you're going to be able to 458 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,100 function better on less sleep. I mean, all the things that you 459 00:25:15,100 --> 00:25:18,400 would want to be able to do as an elite Hunter, you can do it 460 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,500 in much more optimized state Yuki to adapt. 461 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,400 You said the main word Reds are optimized. 462 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:30,100 And you know for me this past year, I went on a, you might 463 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:32,900 call it extreme hunt. I was in the Sawtooth mountains 464 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:41,200 in Idaho and we went, it was a public land archery hunt for 465 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,400 elk. And I mean, your chances of 466 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,900 killing an elk with a bow and arrow is slim to none. 467 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,200 And then you add in its archery season. 468 00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:54,500 Season, and you've got four people with you, and you got 469 00:25:54,500 --> 00:25:57,700 kind of crazy. But before I went out there, I 470 00:25:57,700 --> 00:25:59,700 made sure. I mean, I was super strict on my 471 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:04,100 Quito and in out, there, I'll go and give a plug for the keto 472 00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:08,000 brick. Because I took, I took a about a 473 00:26:08,008 --> 00:26:10,300 week and a half worth of Quito bricks with me. 474 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,700 Hmm. And, you know, and that's me 475 00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:16,100 three key to Bricks that's about 3,000 calories. 476 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:20,800 And, and it's less than a pound. And whenever you're hiking Ten 477 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,400 miles up into the mountains before you ever set up camp, 478 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,300 like every ounce matters, like you're weighing everything and 479 00:26:29,300 --> 00:26:31,300 whenever I go I gotta carry all my food with music. 480 00:26:31,300 --> 00:26:35,500 Oh, I can carry, you know, ten pounds of Quito bricks. 481 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,300 That's 10 days. Worth of food. 482 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:43,700 If, if I have to like nobody else that I was with, could say 483 00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:47,300 that their food weighed less than 10 pounds and they had 484 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,900 everything they needed. And so for me, it was, you know, 485 00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:51,700 there, There were other things that we had with us. 486 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:57,300 But going out there that was a big factor in being mentally, 487 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,700 alert being prepared for no matter what happened. 488 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:05,500 And we're day for, we've hiked 20 miles a day looking for elk 489 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:08,500 and we spent all day just trying to get in position for an elk 490 00:27:08,500 --> 00:27:12,300 and when it comes time to get that shot off, You're sneaking 491 00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:18,800 within 30 to 40 yards of an elk and you have to be mentally 492 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,700 ready. No matter how tired you haven't 493 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,000 slept, you've been sleeping on the ground, whatever it is. 494 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,800 But you had to be mentally prepared and they being in a 495 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,500 ketogenic State. Helped me tremendously just to 496 00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:34,600 be laser focused on what I'm doing and to be energized and be 497 00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:38,600 mentally focused on right there, in that moment of putting the 498 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 shot on that, I needed to get that meat. 499 00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:44,100 Back to my family. Yeah, and and that's that's not 500 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,400 easy man. Like a lot of people I think 501 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,900 they think of hunting is just like sit in your truck left 502 00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,900 waiting for something to come across or like sitting in a deer 503 00:27:50,900 --> 00:27:53,500 stand all day and that's like a different type of difficult, leg 504 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:54,700 of you're sitting in a deer stand all day. 505 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:57,500 I mean, that's patients and there's a lot of discipline to 506 00:27:57,500 --> 00:28:00,600 goes involved with that. But doing like a spot and stalk, 507 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,700 like hiking across Mountain mountainous area. 508 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,200 I mean, that is freaking tough work. 509 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,500 I did that for the first time this past year on a mule deer 510 00:28:08,500 --> 00:28:11,000 hunt in Washington. And I have, I don't know. 511 00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:15,600 Be like 50 or 60 pound pack on and man I got my butt whooped. 512 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,600 Like I don't I don't think I could have done it had, I not 513 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,800 been key to adapted because that were just been one more food. 514 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,600 I had to carry. I was already carrying a heavy 515 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,100 bag, but I mean, that is freaking brutal. 516 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,100 Intensity. Like that, that wrecked me just 517 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:30,600 as much that Marathon. I ran. 518 00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,700 Yeah, I mean I think we, one of the guys with us it was film and 519 00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:36,900 he had a Apple watch and he was tracking. 520 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:42,300 And I think the last two days we hiked In miles with a hundred 521 00:28:42,300 --> 00:28:47,100 pound packs getting the meat out of the off the mountain and it 522 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:50,800 was interesting to see like you know guys having to stop and get 523 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,400 a little granola bars and stuff and I was like, dude I got a 524 00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,300 one-kilo brick in my pocket and I'm good for the day. 525 00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:59,500 I can make it, you know? And it was and once again that 526 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:01,900 fasting side, I go, if you're out there in the mountain and 527 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,900 you're chasing those elk and you're in a spot, you're like 528 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:11,000 all right it's eight miles back to Camp or I can just camp out. 529 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,500 Right here, make me a little bunker and then in the morning I 530 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:17,600 can get back after the elk. Well, that's cutting 16 miles of 531 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,500 walking off but you may not have the food with you and that may 532 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:23,200 be the determining Factor, but hey, I'm keto adapted. 533 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,800 I can fast for another, you know, for another couple hours I 534 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,600 can sleep tonight. I can get everyone's welcome to 535 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,800 morning. I'll worry about getting food 536 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,300 tomorrow. I can go a day or two without 537 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:35,100 food if I have to, and not worry about like that, blood sugar and 538 00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,700 all that stuff that comes with a normal diet. 539 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,000 That's a huge Point, man. I mean, honestly, when you look 540 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,600 at back, you know, Human existence evolutionary speaking, 541 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:47,100 100,000 years ago? I mean keto adaptation is just 542 00:29:47,100 --> 00:29:51,500 an evolutionary adaptation to being able to, you know, pursue 543 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:55,200 game and get a kill in and get food when food is scarce. 544 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,300 So like that's just perfectly, you know, in line and 545 00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:01,400 representative representative of what we're doing today with 546 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,200 modern day, honey. Exactly. 547 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,900 And I mean, trust me if I'm if I'm in the woods and I see a 548 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:12,700 blackberry bush, I'm going to grab a couple and eat them, but 549 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200 once again, those blackberries growing in the woods or not, as 550 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,000 sugar-laden as the ones you're going to find in the store. 551 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:21,000 And that's exactly what our Primal ancestors would have 552 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,000 done. You know, they're like, all 553 00:30:22,008 --> 00:30:23,100 right. Now, there's a handful 554 00:30:23,100 --> 00:30:26,800 blackberries as keep going. Until we actually find some big 555 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,300 animal, we can hunt down but they would sustain on those 556 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:32,100 little bitty. Like, if you would use a little 557 00:30:32,100 --> 00:30:35,500 sugar, Snips but it's not enough to really kick you out of 558 00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,400 ketosis. If it's just a handful of wild 559 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,000 blackberries or blueberries, whatever, maybe, hmm. 560 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:43,400 And taking a lot of times, you know depending on what season 561 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,000 you're in. There's no there's no barriers 562 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,600 to be a fan. Anyways, so you pretty much 563 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,000 right in fasting. Exactly. 564 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,900 So we got season coming up here soon man. 565 00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,200 When does bow season open where you're at? 566 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,000 I guess September probably yeah, it's September, I'm in 567 00:30:57,008 --> 00:30:59,300 Tennessee. So it'll be September whenever 568 00:30:59,300 --> 00:31:04,300 bow season opens up and then we've got we We have a lot of 569 00:31:04,300 --> 00:31:07,400 deer in Tennessee. So thankfully, we're able to 570 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:12,000 actually take a lot of doze, which, you know, in a lot of 571 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,100 places you. Nobody's looking for the big box 572 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:16,000 like, so for me, it's about food. 573 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,300 So I'm looking for a big mature, doe to walk by and especially 574 00:31:19,300 --> 00:31:21,100 archery. And I'm going to take a couple 575 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:25,100 of those early and make sure my freezer is full and, you know, 576 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:28,000 and try to get family and friends out, especially whenever 577 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,700 we get into more of the gun season, just because it doesn't 578 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,200 take as much practice with a gun. 579 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,200 Can get other people involved that way 100% man. 580 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,900 I'm actually going out this weekend to my family farm. 581 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,300 I'm gonna do some Scouting Around kind of, make sure my my 582 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:46,200 spots all good to go for season but I've got the bow dust it 583 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,900 off. I'm shooting regular again. 584 00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,500 Trying to get practiced up on that. 585 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,300 Yeah. Bow season be here for, you know 586 00:31:51,300 --> 00:31:53,100 it. Yeah. 587 00:31:53,100 --> 00:31:56,300 And I think for anybody, I mean Archer, he's just a great thing 588 00:31:56,300 --> 00:32:01,100 to get into and when it comes to the fitness side, you know, your 589 00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:05,000 heart rates going and if you never I never shot your bow 590 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,400 while really tired or after a good hard work out. 591 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,100 I get that's it's going to be a different thing that you're 592 00:32:12,100 --> 00:32:14,900 going to experience and even now the summer time you go out and 593 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:19,000 go fishing and you can get some great meat that way to 100% man. 594 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,800 So what about let's talk about cooking because a lot of people 595 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,000 they don't have no clue how to cook wild game, because it's a 596 00:32:26,008 --> 00:32:28,200 little bit different than cooking, a big old fatty ribeye 597 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600 right, you know, and that's one thing about wild game. 598 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,200 It is leaner And a lot of people, if they've ever had Wild 599 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000 game, like, man, that just tasted terrible, it tasted 600 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:44,700 gamey, one of the reasons why is because we don't cut it up the 601 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:49,600 same way that we do like say a cow and it with if it's a cow or 602 00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:52,900 hog or something like that, you know that that fat is gives us 603 00:32:52,900 --> 00:32:55,900 that buttery flavor when it comes to Wild game. 604 00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,900 A lot of times you want to cut that fat off the fat is what 605 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:04,800 will tend to give it the gamey flavor. and just you know, and 606 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,900 even if we compare say beef to venison, you know, venison does 607 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:12,300 have less calories and a little bit less fat, but it does have 608 00:33:12,300 --> 00:33:15,800 more protein and it has more vitamins and minerals in that 609 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:21,400 same amount but in that you know so then as it being a ketogenic, 610 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:25,500 adding the fat in so, you know, you can add the fat end through 611 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:29,000 just, you know, whether it be, you know, bacon, coconut oil, 612 00:33:29,500 --> 00:33:33,300 whatever that you want to cook with that, or just, Tad an 613 00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:35,800 avocado with it. Is one of things I love to do is 614 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,200 have, you know, venison with avocado and and that's just a 615 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,600 delicious meal right there. But one of the gaming part often 616 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:49,100 comes from not taking the fat off properly and having too much 617 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:51,100 fat in that meat. And so if you're making a 618 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,000 burger, that's when you can mix in some of the that, you know, 619 00:33:54,008 --> 00:33:56,800 the the innards delivers, the hearts, things like that. 620 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,400 And you can add in maybe some bacon fat, which will give you 621 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,100 that little extra fattiness and make it a little Bacon taste. 622 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,400 But when it comes to cooking, it's all about. 623 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,600 Making sure that you're not overcooking it because it you 624 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:17,800 know, it will get chewy and even tough because of the lack of fat 625 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,800 like we would a cow. So you just kind of have to take 626 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,000 it a little bit and for me I still experiment with things I'm 627 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,100 like all right you know man ribeye was really good this way. 628 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:31,100 Well, I've got this deer steak. How can I cook it? 629 00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:34,100 So, it tastes kind of like that ribeye and I've got to tweak 630 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:35,600 things. I cook, it may be a little bit, 631 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,300 lower a little bit slower, use an insta pot, use a Crock-Pot, 632 00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:43,000 you know, use the oven and I'll cook it a little differently and 633 00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:47,100 different ways of making it better and getting the flavor 634 00:34:47,100 --> 00:34:50,500 where I want it. So that it's more palatable and, 635 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,800 you know, for me it's just it's there's a ton of recipes ton of 636 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:57,600 cookbooks out there for Wild game and just finding one that 637 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,400 Fits what you're looking for is is the best thing to do. 638 00:35:01,900 --> 00:35:04,500 So what's your like, if you could pick any cut on a deer? 639 00:35:04,500 --> 00:35:06,700 For instance and any preparation technique? 640 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:13,100 What would you what you go to? I mean, probably most, most deer 641 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,500 hunters, replace a the tenderloin, to the back strip 642 00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:19,500 and for me, it's it's a lean cut of meat. 643 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:25,400 So I will often take that tenderloin and I will take some 644 00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,600 bacon and I'll get the bacon about Cooked. 645 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:33,200 And then I'll wrap that bacon around the tenderloin and cook 646 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,600 that tenderloin on the, on the stovetop. 647 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,500 And in a cast iron skillet for just about three or four minutes 648 00:35:41,500 --> 00:35:46,800 on each side and then stick it in the oven for at about 350 for 649 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,800 about 5 to 6 minutes, take it out, let it rest a couple 650 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,000 minutes and then I'm cutting into a about a medium medium 651 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,800 rare steak with nice with some bacon around. 652 00:35:57,900 --> 00:36:01,400 And it and it that that gender was just so I see it's almost 653 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,000 like a filet mignon if you will and it's so delicious. 654 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,500 So amazing. That's probably my top, you 655 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:11,600 know, for especially sharing it with someone else who's never 656 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,700 had anything but, you know, beef. 657 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,700 And I think that's one of these I would share with them first, 658 00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,700 but, you know, then I like to get into taking the heart and 659 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:22,200 cut the heart up into little bitty pieces. 660 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:27,200 Mix it into like a chili and you can even mix it with other 661 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,700 Either beef or ground venison, do that? 662 00:36:31,700 --> 00:36:37,100 And I mean, it's hard to beat elk my wife, she's a cook up 663 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,800 some milk steaks, and this kind of the same thing. 664 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:43,200 Just a few few minutes on each side and then stick them in the 665 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,600 oven for a few minutes and they're about medium rare cut 666 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,100 into them. And that's one of the best 667 00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:49,500 pieces of meat that I've ever had. 668 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,900 Yeah, it's definitely hard to beat, man, I love you cuts that 669 00:36:53,900 --> 00:36:57,600 most people, you know, discarded don't really put very high. 670 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,900 Don't have it in high regard, but like a, like, the shanks 671 00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:04,000 I've been loving venison, Shanks. 672 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,800 I've got a freezer full of them and I would like an osso buco 673 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,100 with them and those shoot man. I'd be, I'd be hard-pressed to 674 00:37:11,100 --> 00:37:12,700 pick like a tenderloin over those. 675 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:15,100 Like, if they're done right there, pretty damn good. 676 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,400 Yeah. Yeah. 677 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,800 I mean, that's the thing is you and it's all about, you know, in 678 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,400 some people like the ribs, you can smoke them and, you know, 679 00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,400 some people discard the ribs because I know there's not much 680 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:28,400 meat on there but, you know, to respect that Get ribs. 681 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,500 You smoke them up. There's that's some good meat 682 00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:33,500 right there. And then there's a lot of things 683 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,700 that you can you can gather. And I used to memorize Granddad, 684 00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:40,800 I would be cutting up meat and, and I was like, oh, none with 685 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,100 this and he's like, isn't let me see that? 686 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:45,900 And five minutes. He's got a pile of meat bigger 687 00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,100 than what I had and I thought I had everything off and doesn't 688 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,800 you know like okay you know and it's one of those things where 689 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,300 you know, once again we live maybe in a world of prosperity. 690 00:37:55,300 --> 00:37:57,700 We're like out, we just take the big chunk and throw the rest. 691 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,800 Out of it out. Whenever some of these 692 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,900 Old-Timers, they remember those days whenever they had no food 693 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:07,600 in there, getting every little bit off and any of that, you 694 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,300 throw it in a crock pot and make a stew out of it. 695 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:12,900 And it's going to cook up nice and tender and it's going to be 696 00:38:12,908 --> 00:38:15,300 delicious. And most people are not going to 697 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,100 tell the difference between, you know, if it's a cow or if it's a 698 00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:20,900 deer, if it's done, right? And you told a few spices in 699 00:38:20,908 --> 00:38:24,200 there and it's delicious. 100% lot of times I'll do is I'll get 700 00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,600 like these chunks you know something that I couldn't make a 701 00:38:26,607 --> 00:38:30,000 steak or something out of and then I'll, you know, grind it, 702 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,500 but I'll grind it with like a 75/25 grass-fed beef and I'm 703 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:39,000 able to basically make an 85/15 ratio or something out of it and 704 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,900 that way I can stretch it a lot farther and it just is freaking 705 00:38:41,900 --> 00:38:43,300 delicious. You get all the nutrient 706 00:38:43,300 --> 00:38:44,900 benefits that you would from the wild game. 707 00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:47,000 Oh yeah. And that's the way to do it. 708 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,700 I mean, like you said, it's just you, you're stretching little 709 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:53,600 bit further and you're making it a little more may be palatable 710 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,000 to introduce other people. Absolutely ma'am. 711 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,800 Well, cool deal. What's the what's the thing that 712 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,700 people need to be doing if they're wanting to get into 713 00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:02,000 hunting? But don't know where to turn. 714 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,700 Where do you? Where do you point people? 715 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,800 Well, I mean, I have my sight, and I have my podcast. 716 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,000 I help you under. So we're, you know, we talk 717 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:11,900 about health, we talk about Fitness to talk about hunting 718 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:15,300 and your gracious enough to come on there and I really appreciate 719 00:39:15,300 --> 00:39:18,200 that. But, you know, for me, I try to 720 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:22,600 just share it through my website, through Instagram, 721 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,000 through Facebook, and all that stuff. 722 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,300 We're all the social media channels, but there's a few 723 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:30,700 places that are probably more equipped than even me and the 724 00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:33,500 qdm a, which is the quality deer management association. 725 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:39,100 They have a great Field to Fork program and they're in several 726 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:42,400 States. So if you just look up the Cutie 727 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:48,400 Ma It would afford, you're going to find their program and you 728 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,900 find out where it is and they take people in their first hunt, 729 00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:54,200 that's what they do. They go to farmers markets and 730 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:55,600 they help. They'll actually cook up. 731 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,400 Venison is share it with people and they will take you on. 732 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,000 They'll get you set up with a crossbow. 733 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,100 That's it. Get you set up with camo and 734 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,300 don't take you on your first hunt. 735 00:40:03,300 --> 00:40:05,700 Don't hey, this is we're doing and they'll bring everybody 736 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:08,800 together to butcher, it to cook it up. 737 00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:10,800 And then Q, May guys are awesome. 738 00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:13,000 There's a lot of information online. 739 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:17,100 Some places I worked. With that provide great info 740 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:19,300 like mossy oak. They have a lot of great 741 00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,200 information on. They have a video series that 742 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:26,900 they're on their app, where they do, how to cut up a deer, how to 743 00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:29,400 prepare a deer, how to cook it in different ways. 744 00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:31,100 So they make sure you get the best out of it. 745 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,800 So there's things like that. But, you know, the biggest thing 746 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,900 is, don't be afraid to ask questions. 747 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,100 If you whenever you were getting into keto, you got you went to 748 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,800 dr. Google and typed in what is 749 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:45,400 Quito? How do I do keto? 750 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,300 What can I do? How can I make keto ice cream? 751 00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:51,400 Whatever you were looking for? You went there and asked and 752 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,000 then you may have had a friend who was into the into kito's, 753 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:57,500 their God, you're asking them questions. 754 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,900 So don't be afraid to ask questions because if you don't 755 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:04,500 ask a question you're never going to know the answer and so 756 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:08,000 whenever if anybody ever hits me up saying, hey I want to learn 757 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,400 how to hunt and but they're in Oklahoma. 758 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,000 I'm like dude you're long way away from me and it but I'm able 759 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,500 I'll drives Oklahoma, take you on a hunt if you're able, you 760 00:41:18,500 --> 00:41:22,400 can come to me and Hunt. If if all we can do is just 761 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,200 through the through the magic of the interwebs. 762 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:29,100 We can talk back and forth and I can share with you here's where 763 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:31,500 you need to go to get a bow. Here's how you here's what you 764 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:33,200 need to look for Ike. I'm going to give you as much 765 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,900 information as possible and there's so many people out there 766 00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:39,900 that can do that and all you have to do is just I mean said 767 00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:44,100 you look up on Google reach out to somebody who maybe if you see 768 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,600 them. On Facebook or Instagram, who 769 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,200 shares a recipe of wild game reach out to them. 770 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:54,400 And 99% of the people are going to say, oh, yeah, this is how I 771 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:56,900 do it. Or I'd love you to come with me. 772 00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,800 And I know that you've done that with several folks, in the 773 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,900 ketogenic space that you've invited them to come hunt with 774 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:06,600 you and opening their eyes to what they can do. 775 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:12,400 And just it's all about asking, questions be humble about, I 776 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,300 don't know what I'm doing, but I want to know more. 777 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,900 And if you if you keep that in mind, I mean, because I'm still 778 00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:22,700 learning every single day about hunting about the outdoors about 779 00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:26,500 the way that turkey and deer and Elk the way they move this year, 780 00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:30,800 was my first real elk hunt, I went and I asked him. 781 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,600 I said, do I need to learn how to call and the guy that I was 782 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:36,100 going with? He said, if I see you touch a 783 00:42:36,107 --> 00:42:40,500 call, most slap it out of your hand and and, and rightfully. 784 00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,700 So because if I'm making a racket out there and he knows 785 00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:47,400 what he's doing, I'm going to scare the elk off, but while out 786 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,400 there, he taught me how to call an elk. 787 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,500 Hmm. And so it was like, okay, I'm 788 00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,400 out here. I'm watching you, I'm learning. 789 00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,100 And then whenever I left, he's like Alright. 790 00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:57,900 Here's the stuff now, go practice. 791 00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:02,500 And so it's one of those things where you can ask questions and 792 00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:06,600 just tag along with somebody just get outside and observe and 793 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:10,300 just see what they're doing and but reach out because most 794 00:43:10,300 --> 00:43:13,700 people that love the outdoors are going to share it with you. 795 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:17,400 And right now, Now, I know that there's some crazy times with 796 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,600 people that are going out and they're wanting to be more 797 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,900 self-reliant, and I think it's a great thing that as if you are 798 00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:27,900 an Outdoorsman invite other people, if you want to know, ask 799 00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:31,300 somebody, how can I go with you and learn how to hunt? 800 00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:33,700 I love it, man. I mean, I've always talked 801 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,200 highly of like the keto, space the keto Community, because 802 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,100 everybody is so giving and like they're in it for the right 803 00:43:39,100 --> 00:43:41,300 reasons. But honestly, the same is true 804 00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,800 with the Hunting Community. I mean, everybody's just always. 805 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,400 So, Willing to give them any information or knowledge, the 806 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,600 hand they're willing to like let people borrow their gear. 807 00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:51,700 You know, show them a spot to hunt. 808 00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:54,400 I mean there's some people that want to get a hunting but they 809 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,300 come up with these excuses. Like they don't have land or 810 00:43:56,308 --> 00:43:57,300 they don't know how to shoot a gun. 811 00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:59,700 But I mean that's all easily worked out. 812 00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:02,400 I mean, there's public land, there's people that are more 813 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,300 than willing to let you harm their private land. 814 00:44:04,500 --> 00:44:06,900 You can borrow Weaponry. I mean, you can do whatever 815 00:44:06,900 --> 00:44:08,500 needs to be done to make it happen. 816 00:44:08,500 --> 00:44:11,500 You just have to put in a little bit of leg work but it's so 817 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:13,400 worth it, man. Like the the fruits of your 818 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,200 labor of putting in that. Legwork far outweighs the time 819 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,800 it takes. I mean you just it's like 820 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,000 anything in life you put in the work and the reward is just it's 821 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,600 just there man. Yeah I mean you get what you put 822 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,400 into it was Life Fitness whatever you know and the way I 823 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,300 see it, even if you don't know anybody that hunts if you're 824 00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:36,200 having to go it all alone. Even if you say if you don't 825 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,600 have a weapon, if you don't have camo, if you don't know a thing 826 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:43,500 about hunting but you want to learn, you can go to the woods 827 00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:49,300 and say, hey, Can I sit here and see a deer today? 828 00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:51,200 Can I sneak up on a turkey? Whatever. 829 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:55,800 Maybe if you do it and you get out there and maybe you mess up 830 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,600 and you spook a turkey spooky dear. 831 00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:01,100 Well, you've at least done something and now you've learned 832 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:02,500 from it. Even if it may have been the 833 00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:04,400 wrong thing, you learned from it. 834 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,600 And, you know, and I think that once you get out there you just 835 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,900 it's one of those things. It's like a bug bites, you and 836 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:14,500 just, you know, when you see the sun come up and you see nature 837 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:15,400 just wait. Up. 838 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,400 It's something that you do realize like this is the place 839 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,400 to be. Totally agree man. 840 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:22,600 Totally agree. Well where can people go to find 841 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:23,900 out more about you and follow along man? 842 00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:30,900 Yeah so Dr. Brooks tiller dr. Brooks tiller.com is a main Hub. 843 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,500 The website. I'm dr. 844 00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:36,200 Brooks tiller on all social channels. 845 00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:39,200 The healthy Hunter show is podcast. 846 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:45,500 That will be interview, leading Fitness folks Outdoors Amin 847 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,100 people who are just in in that space who are into fitness and 848 00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:53,400 health as well as the outdoors. So those are the places to find 849 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:58,400 and any time anybody has any questions just you can hit me up 850 00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:01,700 whether it's a recipe or anything about the outdoors, 851 00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:06,900 foraging food, anything of that nature, feel free, just hit me 852 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:10,800 up because I love talking about all this stuff and we'll be glad 853 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,000 to help and that's that's what what I'm here for. 854 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,100 That's my that's my In life, and it shows through, man. 855 00:46:17,100 --> 00:46:20,000 I mean you and I definitely to get a hunt orchestrated 856 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:21,700 together. I think that'd be, that's the 857 00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:23,600 cool thing about hunting. Like you get like-minded people 858 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,100 together, like you start collaborating. 859 00:46:25,100 --> 00:46:28,200 You idea to start flowing. It's like, it's hard to beat 860 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,300 like the conversation that camaraderie that you can share 861 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:34,100 sitting around a campfire. After a hard day in the field is 862 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:37,400 hard to beat. Oh man, I've told so many people 863 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,200 about the benefits of the key to a brick and what that did for me 864 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,500 whenever I was trekking up and down mountains and just being 865 00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:45,500 able to spend time. Time with you. 866 00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:47,100 In the woods would be amazing. We could. 867 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:49,500 I mean, who knows? I mean you might guess the woods 868 00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:53,000 on fire with some good ideas. Well shoot me, let's do it right 869 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:54,200 now. You got me all hungry. 870 00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,200 So I'm gonna go defrost tenderloins and sling. 871 00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,200 Some arrows. Yeah man, I got some milk 872 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,400 Stakes. Getting ready to cook, too. 873 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,500 So I'm gonna after I shoot some after I shoot in the backyard 874 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,000 with the kids, I'm going to cook up some steaks. 875 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,600 So we're good. Sounds good, man. 876 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,600 Will you enjoy those steaks and keep in touch, brother? 877 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,200 Appreciate it, brother. Take care.