1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,600 What's going on? Ladies and gents Roberts is 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:03,500 Quito Savage.com. And today, I've got special 3 00:00:03,500 --> 00:00:05,100 guest doctor Chalmers on the line. 4 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:07,300 And we're going to dive into a little bit of everything. 5 00:00:07,300 --> 00:00:09,000 We truly do. Cover the Spectrum. 6 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:10,900 Here. We talk about myocarditis. 7 00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:12,500 We talked about a little bit about vaccines. 8 00:00:12,500 --> 00:00:15,000 We talk about coffee enemas. We talk about gut health. 9 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:17,900 We talk about hormones, testosterone, how to improve 10 00:00:17,900 --> 00:00:19,600 your health, well-being, and Longevity. 11 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,900 We really covered at all. I learned a lot. 12 00:00:21,900 --> 00:00:23,200 I thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. 13 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:24,800 I've got no doubt that you will as well. 14 00:00:25,100 --> 00:00:28,000 So that further, Ado, sit back, relax, get your notepad ready to 15 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,900 take some notes and enjoy the conversation with Dr. Chalmers, 16 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:42,400 I'm dr. Thomas. 17 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,000 How are you sir? I'm well, how are you man? 18 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,800 I'm good. I'm good, and let's kind of down 19 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,300 to some Mac store. And you may like I watch some 20 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:52,500 YouTube videos of you kind of talk about some of your origin 21 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:54,300 stories, but I love to kind of hear from you first and 22 00:00:54,300 --> 00:00:56,100 foremost. So what kind of guys you into 23 00:00:56,100 --> 00:01:00,400 the health and nutrition space to begin with men, so Always 24 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:01,900 wanted to going to be in this space. 25 00:01:02,700 --> 00:01:07,100 My whole family are engineers. And so I kind of took that piece 26 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:09,400 of wanting to figure out how systems worked and that's the 27 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,700 thing and my love for athletics and, you know, so it was going 28 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:14,500 to be okay. We're going to be a doctor of 29 00:01:14,500 --> 00:01:19,000 some kind and then I hurt my back playing football and 30 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,900 couldn't walk. And now I went and saw every 31 00:01:22,900 --> 00:01:24,600 specialist. You can imagine neuro surgeons, 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,800 orthopedic, surgeons back, specialist pain, special, 33 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,500 everything. And they send this little kid in 34 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:31,700 it. Ooh, maybe 135 pounds. 35 00:01:31,700 --> 00:01:35,200 It's like he's never seen the sun before, and he was like, you 36 00:01:35,208 --> 00:01:36,400 don't want to play football anymore. 37 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:38,600 You're just lying there. Something wrong with you. 38 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,100 And at that point, I was bench pressing 400 pounds in 39 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:45,500 squatting, 600 pounds. And I remember looking at my 40 00:01:45,508 --> 00:01:47,600 said, if I could reach you, I break you in half. 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,100 And for some reason, he had no idea called me a liar, to 42 00:01:51,107 --> 00:01:53,000 Friday, have no idea what that would make me angry. 43 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,900 So called my coach is like a man. 44 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:58,300 I can't walk. I can't play. 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,800 He was like, we'll go see your team. 46 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,800 Fracture, and because life is hilariously ironic. 47 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,800 I told him, I didn't, I said, I need a doctor not a massage. 48 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:08,500 He said, we'll look man. It's free go. 49 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:10,600 Check it out. So my parents literally carried 50 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 me in. He takes a look at the X-ray. 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,500 Adjust mean, I got up walked out and went back to practice her 52 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:18,200 days later. So that's why I was like, no 53 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,800 this I want to work with athletes. 54 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,500 This is this is the path. I want to rock. 55 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:24,600 I want to walk. So that kind of started me down 56 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:28,700 that path and also started to down the idea that not everybody 57 00:02:28,700 --> 00:02:31,800 knew everything. So it was my job to learn as 58 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,800 much as I could. So that's kind of what got me on 59 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,300 this. This path originally gacha 60 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:36,800 gacha. Yeah. 61 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,400 The Chiropractic thing is, it's interesting and there's I talk 62 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,700 to a lot of people then, you know, go to chiropractors 63 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:45,100 regularly talk a lot of chiropractors themselves, and I 64 00:02:45,100 --> 00:02:48,000 personally have only been to the chiropractor like three times or 65 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:49,700 something like that and they've all been different. 66 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:51,600 Chiropractors. Like, I'm very inconsistent with 67 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,600 it, but it seems like a lot of people are like hardcore. 68 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,200 This is the you gotta do. It's going to totally change 69 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,300 your life and you get the other half the population. 70 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:02,300 It's like, Do a thing. It's just, you know, voodoo 71 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:03,800 magic, but it sounds like for you. 72 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,500 It wasn't just voodoo magic. Now, it's one of those things. 73 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:09,500 It depends on what your, what your needs. 74 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:12,500 So it, everybody always my medical colleagues, my Cairo, 75 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:13,800 call, everybody kind of makes fun of me. 76 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,800 Because when you come to see me, it's going to be, we're going to 77 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,700 talk about coffee, enemas, Eastern medicine, meridian line 78 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:24,600 repair, injectable, testosterone calcium, CT, sleep, studies. 79 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,500 So, we do a lot of medical stuff and a lot of Eastern medicine 80 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:30,600 Chiropractic stuff at because that's what people need. 81 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:35,700 They need a good healthy, mix of both, you know, to get to get us 82 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:37,600 where we want to. Go lies to get us healthy. 83 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:40,600 Makes total sense. What would you say the main 84 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,100 difference is between Eastern medicine and Western medicine. 85 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Probably the nutritional aspect physiology. 86 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,200 So the big line I think is divided on Western medicine 87 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:58,000 forces, your body to go a specific way Eastern medicine 88 00:03:58,900 --> 00:04:01,500 kind of feeds, the natural physiology and lets it go on its 89 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:03,300 way. And the problem with those two 90 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:07,000 things is that like take testosterone ZZ easiest example, 91 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:10,700 if you have high stress, you're gonna have low testosterone as 92 00:04:10,700 --> 00:04:12,400 you age, you have lower testosterone. 93 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:15,600 There's nothing we can do naturally or physiologically and 94 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:18,300 Stressed environment to bring the testosterone up, so you have 95 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:21,600 to go medical. However, the same time, if your 96 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 body is not getting the nutrition, it needs, you can 97 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,100 give it all the drugs you want. It's not going to get you where 98 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:29,600 you want to go, anxiety, depression, energy, fat loss in 99 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,200 that, it was up. So you've got to go over and 100 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:33,800 work on the physiology side and bring things back up. 101 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,200 So you need kind of the, the two pieces. 102 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,300 You need to be able to force the body to go, where you need it to 103 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:41,600 go, but you need to support it on the other side. 104 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,500 Yeah. I feel like I'm in more of a 105 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:46,800 well-rounded holistic. Approach to it is the only 106 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,500 sensible thing. There's so many people, so many 107 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:51,700 medical doctor, especially in our society, these days in the 108 00:04:51,700 --> 00:04:53,300 state's. It's like they want to, you 109 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:56,300 know, isolate everything and put in a box and just treat that as 110 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:58,400 opposed to looking all the underlying issues and fixing 111 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,200 them the root cause that's very common, you know, but that's 112 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,600 that's the promise that's kind of what we've asked of the 113 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:09,200 system. So, you know, it's like well, I 114 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,000 need to see a cardiologist because I'm worried about my 115 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,200 heart. All right, you know, I need to 116 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 see a nephrologist Murder By the kidneys. 117 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:18,000 Can we do? We understand that those are all 118 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,700 interconnected your blood pressure, your kidneys, your 119 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:23,400 heart are radically, you know, directly connected. 120 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:26,800 So like you say looking at from a holistic standpoint, so you 121 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:29,400 understand how all the system works and all the hormones and 122 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,100 everything plays together is really, really important. 123 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:35,400 So having so many over the top of your care, who is a holistic 124 00:05:36,300 --> 00:05:39,100 Vision, person is pretty critical. 125 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:41,100 So that's, that's I do a lot of that as well. 126 00:05:41,700 --> 00:05:44,800 So, what is your like ideal, you know, patient like in your 127 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,600 practice like house. That structure and who's 128 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,600 typically going to see you, you know, it's kind of weird because 129 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,300 I've got people who come in and I'll do have a lot of medical 130 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:57,200 doctors become to me for hormone work that I've got people who 131 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,500 come in for celiac IBS, fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue. 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,900 Those are all real easy to fix. It's all see those guys and I 133 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:07,400 have a lot of athletes who come in for plantar, fasciitis, 134 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,800 carpal tunnel, neck pain, back pain, that's the thing. 135 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,600 So he's kind of a wide variety of things. 136 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,800 It's just, you know, Also, see people, I'm like, okay, we're 137 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,400 gonna put your care together. And then when I find a, you 138 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,600 know, you need a heart surgeon. Well, I don't do surgery. 139 00:06:21,900 --> 00:06:24,300 So I'm going to send you to one of my surgeons to get this thing 140 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:26,100 fixed. Then, when you come back, we'll 141 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,100 do the detox will rebuild everything. 142 00:06:28,100 --> 00:06:32,200 So it's kind of it's a wide variety of people that we see. 143 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,300 But I like to work on the people that are having issues at. 144 00:06:35,300 --> 00:06:38,200 Nobody can figure out those are. Those are really kind of my, 145 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:40,000 that's my, that's where it's fun for me. 146 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,400 What are some of the common denominators in like the issues 147 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:45,100 that you're seeing on regular basis is there? 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,100 Like a, you know, classic 80/20 breakdown of what the the common 149 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:52,800 ailments on, what the ideal most bang for your buck fixes. 150 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:57,500 Oh, yeah, so generally it's a systems failure thing. 151 00:06:57,500 --> 00:06:59,400 And so, it's okay. We've got to get the kidneys and 152 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,600 liver flushed out. So the waste can actually get 153 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,500 out of the body, then we going to kill the parasites which I 154 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:08,700 think, 90% of who I see everybody skipped over, you 155 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,100 gotta kill the parasites, then you get a kill the yeast 156 00:07:11,100 --> 00:07:13,700 overgrowth then you can repopulate the got with 157 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:18,600 probiotics. So Just doing that little gut 158 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,300 reset liver. Gut reset is probably the number 159 00:07:21,300 --> 00:07:24,600 one thing people could do for their overall health, and that's 160 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,100 really easy. If you're willing to cough, get 161 00:07:26,100 --> 00:07:29,600 him as it's cheap fast and easy, if you're not, it takes a little 162 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:32,100 bit longer, but that's probably the biggest thing is resetting 163 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:34,300 the liver of the detox organism. They got. 164 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,900 And again, house is one that, I mean, a lot of people in the 165 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:40,600 keto space, low carb space. Like we've been just inundated 166 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,700 with information about gut health and I feel like people 167 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:45,500 are really jumping on the train and recognize that. 168 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,800 How important it is kind of like we, you know, for go sleep for 169 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,800 so long, but eventually we have to come to grips with the fact 170 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,900 that sleep is super important, but when it comes to gun Health, 171 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:55,300 you know, like there's a lot of people that are out there 172 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:58,000 talking about probiotics and prebiotics and, you know, 173 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:02,200 digestion and consuming foods and parasympathetic State as 174 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,800 opposed to the stressed and and whatnot. 175 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,000 But haven't heard too many people diving to the coffee 176 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:08,900 enemas man. So so what does that exactly? 177 00:08:08,900 --> 00:08:12,600 It sounds little intimidating. So and it's so funny because 178 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,500 like I'll give people the directions, everything they go, 179 00:08:14,500 --> 00:08:17,300 they call me that. I don't know if I can do this, 180 00:08:17,300 --> 00:08:19,700 then they do one and they're like, oh, this is a whole lot 181 00:08:19,707 --> 00:08:22,500 easier than I thought it was. So the way a coffee animal 182 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,800 works, is it uses the standard physiology of the body? 183 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,500 So the reason the: exist is to suck all the fluid out of your 184 00:08:29,500 --> 00:08:31,500 fecal matter, and take it back up to deliver clean. 185 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:33,200 The water push the water back in the system. 186 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,200 If we didn't have the:, excuse me, we would dehydrate and die. 187 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,100 Whenever we'd have a lot of albums since my deep, that's why 188 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:45,700 diarrhea can kill you. So, what you do is you take Rid 189 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:48,600 of some kind you can use saline, you can use coffee and then you 190 00:08:48,608 --> 00:08:50,100 put a bunch of herbs into it as well. 191 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:53,000 And it kind of makes his tea and then you put it into the colon. 192 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,200 It gets sucked to the: through What's called the hepatic portal 193 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,500 system back to the liver drops, you liver. 194 00:08:58,500 --> 00:09:01,400 And then those chemicals that they haven't been hit with 195 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:05,000 hydrochloric acid or peptic digestive enzymes and things 196 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,300 like that. They're fresh and they're ready 197 00:09:07,300 --> 00:09:09,400 to go. And so we can flush out all the 198 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,900 congealed, bile salts, all the nasty, all the goo that's been 199 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,900 stuck in our liver when I did. My first one, I had I was in a 200 00:09:15,908 --> 00:09:18,300 car wreck in 2007 and Brooke, my left foot. 201 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:21,500 My left femur left, shoulder shot micro wind of my face. 202 00:09:22,100 --> 00:09:24,500 Lots of drugs, have a titanium rod that runs the length of my 203 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:27,900 left femur, lots of drugs from the surgery's, not from the 204 00:09:27,900 --> 00:09:31,100 time, but a year, little over a year later. 205 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,600 I did my first coffee, you know, and all those drugs that was 206 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,300 given for the surgeries. We're still in my liver. 207 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:40,400 They all came out and I actually got high because all those all 208 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:41,900 those chemicals were not being pushed out of B. 209 00:09:41,900 --> 00:09:45,000 So, the coffee enema is the number one way to clean the 210 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,000 liver. In the livers job is to clean 211 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:49,000 the blood and the lymph to the blood in the length, can clean 212 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,400 the rest of the tissues in the body. 213 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,300 So overall health inflammation reactive. 214 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:57,300 Oxidative stress can be cleaned out through the liver as long as 215 00:09:57,300 --> 00:10:00,000 the rivers clean and the coffee. Enemas with the cheapest fastest 216 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,900 way to do that. Would you like a right and wrong 217 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:04,600 way to do this? I mean, probably want to just 218 00:10:05,100 --> 00:10:06,900 shoving Folgers coffee up there, right? 219 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:09,700 Yeah. So you want you want organic 220 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:10,900 coffee? That's not. 221 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:15,400 That's not scented or flavored and then. 222 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,400 You want to make sure that it's not hot, you know, 95 to 100 223 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,000 degrees is perfect. And then just take a little bit 224 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,500 of time 8 to 10 ounces, you know, let rest relax, lay down, 225 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:28,900 you know, let it kind of sit in there. 226 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:31,200 Give it up 5 to 10 minutes, expel? 227 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:36,200 That when you go back and take a second, second hit, and as you 228 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,100 kind of go through the process, you're going to kind of learn 229 00:10:38,100 --> 00:10:40,400 how your body functions and what you need that to the thing. 230 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:42,400 So that's a really great way to do it. 231 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,400 The problem we get into with that. 232 00:10:45,100 --> 00:10:49,600 Is while you're cleaning your liver, if you clean too fast, 233 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,200 your liver will kick out some, the waste products into the 234 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:55,300 interstitial fluid and is, then picked up again by your blood. 235 00:10:55,300 --> 00:10:57,500 And your lymphatic system, taking your kidneys. 236 00:10:57,900 --> 00:11:00,800 They can overload your kidneys. And so we get anxiety and 237 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:04,400 depression and things like that. So I also usually have people 238 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,500 do, what's called. Kidney castor oil packs on the 239 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,500 kidneys to help detox your kidneys, and help allow your 240 00:11:10,500 --> 00:11:12,800 body to handle and process waste through your kidneys. 241 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,800 So there's a little bit of a caveat. 242 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,500 Sometimes coffee, enemas can cause some anxiety and things 243 00:11:18,500 --> 00:11:19,900 like that. It's not the caffeine. 244 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,500 It's the overload of the kidneys. 245 00:11:22,500 --> 00:11:25,200 And so that's one of the only caveat to the cop, you know, ha 246 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,500 as the, you know, how to do it right and wrong. 247 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:29,700 It's make sure your detox will rooms are clean. 248 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:32,000 So, what is this castor oil for the kidneys? 249 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,900 Like, how is that applied? So it's three sheets of cotton 250 00:11:35,900 --> 00:11:37,800 flannel. Each one individually coated 251 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,400 with castor oil. You put that directly on the 252 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,300 skin. Then you put a piece of plastic 253 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:44,700 over it and then I like to use a farm for it heating pad. 254 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,800 It's the radiation will actually penetrate 3 cm little bit more 255 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:53,800 than 3 cm through and that helps detoxify the kidneys to flush 256 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:56,400 everything out. And we've had people come in in 257 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,800 full on panic attacks, you know, crying? 258 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:00,300 Stop pouring out there. No shaking. 259 00:12:00,300 --> 00:12:03,000 They can't do anything. Well toss on the farm for red 260 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,000 bed, with the Castor pack on it. 30 minutes later. 261 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:06,900 They get up clean their face off and go back to work. 262 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:07,700 No drugs. No nothing. 263 00:12:07,700 --> 00:12:11,800 They're totally fine. So it's, it's a pretty powerful 264 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:16,300 tool to use but the thing Exit really effective. 265 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:19,000 Is that farm for red piece? So if you guys in the Saint 266 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,400 Ursula, they're really really awesome to use. 267 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,700 The only big caveat that I have is on the internet. 268 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:25,900 People say that you can reuse the packs. 269 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:27,900 You can't. Once you use it one time, it's 270 00:12:27,900 --> 00:12:29,400 toxic and you got to get rid of it. 271 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:33,300 And what kind of frequency, would somebody be doing this 272 00:12:33,300 --> 00:12:36,500 combo here? So depends on where you're at. 273 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:41,400 So like when we bring people in and we're doing a IBS Celiac or 274 00:12:41,500 --> 00:12:44,200 chronic fatigue fibromyalgia deal, but I try to do is I do a 275 00:12:44,208 --> 00:12:47,200 couple kid. He packs to really empty out the 276 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,000 kidneys and then we'll do 2. 24 coffee, enemas, a week for two 277 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,000 weeks. Then we come back down to twice 278 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,100 a week. And it's been really, really 279 00:12:57,100 --> 00:12:59,500 beneficial and fixing a lot of the stuff. 280 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:02,800 We have people come in from all over the world for gut issues. 281 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,500 And this is one of the things that we probably work on I'd say 282 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:10,600 it's 80% of people get this get that starting point just to kill 283 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,200 the parasites and clean the bow up. 284 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:14,700 You like a lot of medical literature. 285 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:17,400 This because you don't really hear about it in you know, 286 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:22,500 mainstream circles really well, so the problem with and I wake 287 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:24,200 up at 4 a.m. Every day, and I read and 288 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,300 research for two hours. I'm done that for over 10 years. 289 00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:31,100 The problem we run into is that medical research is paid for by 290 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:34,300 pharmaceutical companies. So you have a lot of really good 291 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:37,500 research on a bunch of different drugs, but you don't have any 292 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:41,200 real research on stuff like this, which is funny because if 293 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,100 you like, if you look at niacin for increasing hide the h HDL, 294 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:48,300 cholesterol, and decreasing LDL. There's a ton of great research 295 00:13:48,300 --> 00:13:51,100 about how awesome it is up. Until about the point. 296 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:53,700 We created statin drugs. And then from that point 297 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:56,800 forward, it was statin drugs are great and iessons useless now, 298 00:13:57,100 --> 00:14:00,500 which is funny because the old research said it was phenomenal 299 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,400 and now it's like that and we've changed our minds and statin 300 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,900 drugs. So as far as cleaning the liver, 301 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,700 they don't have any drugs. It can clean the liver because 302 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,100 by definition, all drugs have be processed through /. 303 00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:14,700 First, pass through the liver and Hood dirty. 304 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,600 So they don't have anything to clean lever, which is why the 305 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,300 medical community has nothing for fibromyalgia, which is a 306 00:14:20,308 --> 00:14:22,500 liver issue. So there's not a lot of medical 307 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:26,100 research on coffee enemas. There's a lot of anecdotal stuff 308 00:14:26,100 --> 00:14:28,200 of. Hey, we've done these for a long 309 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,400 time, and it's really helped a lot of the people in the Health 310 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:34,500 Community, some of the actresses and actors, and high-end guys 311 00:14:34,500 --> 00:14:38,900 like that are doing them because they have access to anyone they 312 00:14:38,900 --> 00:14:41,900 want, and they'll talk to all their friends are like hated 313 00:14:41,900 --> 00:14:43,700 this worker. Did that work and finally smell 314 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:47,400 say, I went to this guy. Over here and it really helped 315 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,600 so like I don't advertise any things. 316 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,500 I do. We have people all over the 317 00:14:51,508 --> 00:14:54,200 world coming to us because I help their friend. 318 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:57,900 Susan, five years ago. And they were talking and this 319 00:14:57,900 --> 00:15:00,100 is the only thing that helps they get a hold of us. 320 00:15:00,100 --> 00:15:03,500 So that's where a lot of the stuff happens from its patients. 321 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:06,500 Who have had it done and they've gotten a great results. 322 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:10,400 And so they tell everybody, so that's where a lot of that goes. 323 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,500 Yeah. Yeah, gotcha. 324 00:15:11,900 --> 00:15:14,700 So what is the actual mechanism with coffee? 325 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,900 What are you getting from the coffee and the herbs that you 326 00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:19,800 mentioned that you're not getting from like a saline 327 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,100 solution. So coffee the oils that are in 328 00:15:23,100 --> 00:15:24,700 coffee. Actually do a really good job of 329 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:26,400 breaking up congealed bile salts. 330 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,500 So what happens in the liver, your liver produces bile. 331 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:33,900 And then whenever you start to lose adequate levels of B6, the 332 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:38,500 biles goes from a really slick, WD-40 like consistency to 333 00:15:38,500 --> 00:15:41,300 basically axle grease. So if you've heard of gallstones 334 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,600 or problems with gallbladder, that's what this is. 335 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,300 Is the gallbladder is a bag. It doesn't produce anything. 336 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:50,500 So anything that's in it. That's bad. 337 00:15:50,500 --> 00:15:52,300 Had to come from somewhere in. That was a lever. 338 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,100 So these coffee salts and coffee oils can actually dissolve and 339 00:15:56,100 --> 00:15:59,200 break up those congested and congealed bile salts and it 340 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,100 helps flush them out. And so that's that's where the 341 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:04,300 coffee. Really kind of hits the biggest 342 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:07,400 piece, then some of the herbs we use will dilate the common bile. 343 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:13,100 Duct turmeric milk thistle, you know, there's a lot of little 344 00:16:13,100 --> 00:16:14,700 herbs like that we use artichoke. 345 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,800 Die like that and flush everything out through the 346 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,000 chamomile system. So that's the, that's the play 347 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,200 of the, of the coffee specifically, but you can put 348 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,200 herbs into saline. If you're super sensitive to 349 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,600 caffeine, you can do it that way too. 350 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:32,700 Is there any change in quantity of bile production after this 351 00:16:32,700 --> 00:16:34,200 procedure? Is it really affect that? 352 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:37,600 It'll basically just cleans out the the rancid mouth so to 353 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,500 speak. So we'll clean up the rest of 354 00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:42,900 the bottle. It allow your body to utilize 355 00:16:42,900 --> 00:16:45,500 new clean bile. The Get into that. 356 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:48,700 A little bit, is that if you've had tons of bile, congestion, 357 00:16:48,700 --> 00:16:51,700 and B6 issues, you're most likely in a highly sympathetic 358 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:53,600 state. So, when you're in this highly 359 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,900 sympathetic State, you don't produce digestive enzymes. 360 00:16:57,500 --> 00:16:59,200 So you're not going to be producing as much file. 361 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,900 So the fat you're consuming, you're not gonna be able to 362 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:04,599 emulsify and utilize nearly as well. 363 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:08,099 So that's kind of where the caveat is that the reason we're 364 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:10,400 in this position is because we're too stressed out. 365 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,099 We haven't done enough to shift us back that parasympathetic 366 00:17:13,099 --> 00:17:16,599 function and so That's you to clean the liver first. 367 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,800 And then I teach everybody how to get back into a pair of 368 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,300 smoothing state. So meditation, exercise, you 369 00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:27,500 know, those other things got, yeah, I've had several clients 370 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:32,300 that have been deficient in HCL and bile production in the first 371 00:17:32,300 --> 00:17:34,000 place. They'll often times talk to 372 00:17:34,008 --> 00:17:35,900 their natural path. I'll get, you know, they'll get 373 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:39,200 on HCL tablets or something of that nature to increase your 374 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,200 stomach acid and then eventually upregulate bound production, but 375 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:44,700 maybe they just kind of working from it. 376 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,300 Fish and Foundation to begin with. 377 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:51,200 A lot of times what we see the problem is that a lot of people 378 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,600 wake up to an alarm clock. So, you're asleep your peaceful, 379 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:56,900 everything's good. And then you're shocked the way. 380 00:17:57,100 --> 00:18:00,000 And so you instantly start in a sympathetic State, and then 381 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,100 people don't wake up in the me. Like, oh, I'm going to take a 382 00:18:02,108 --> 00:18:03,800 reliable to relax for 20 minutes. 383 00:18:04,100 --> 00:18:07,300 It's as soon as I'm awake. I'm going to go get the kids 384 00:18:07,300 --> 00:18:09,100 ready to get me, ready, got go to work. 385 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:10,900 I'm thinking at all the meetings I got today. 386 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,900 So we stay in that sympathetics. Take all day long. 387 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,700 Nothing breaks. Is that something to say to you 388 00:18:15,708 --> 00:18:19,500 come home and maybe you relax and calm down 20 30 minutes for 389 00:18:19,500 --> 00:18:23,100 your slate. Maybe so that creates a big 390 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:24,900 problem in and of itself. So like you say from an 391 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,300 efficiency standpoint, your body is not going to create the 392 00:18:27,300 --> 00:18:29,500 hydrochloric acid. Your body's not going to create 393 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:31,800 the digestive enzymes, all throughout the day. 394 00:18:32,100 --> 00:18:33,500 And so we're not going to absorb our food. 395 00:18:33,500 --> 00:18:36,700 We're not going to clean our food, the HCL doesn't digest the 396 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:37,400 food. It cleans. 397 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:40,700 It kills the viruses bacterial parasitic eggs, parasites, me. 398 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:43,200 It was all that kind of stuff so that it doesn't affect and 399 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:47,000 damage the bowel, but Have the hydrochloric acid, then we have 400 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:49,300 secondary issues. Can't you can't you? 401 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:50,000 What? If someone doesn't have a 402 00:18:50,008 --> 00:18:53,000 gallbladder, any effect there? So, you know, the gallbladder, 403 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:55,600 you're not gonna be able to hold bile properly. 404 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,100 So it's going to basically just drip into the intestines and 405 00:18:59,100 --> 00:19:04,200 that can cause things like cancer intestinal issues. 406 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,200 It can cause all sorts of irritation in the battle. 407 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:09,700 But the biggest pieces that again, you're not going to 408 00:19:09,700 --> 00:19:13,000 emulsify the fat, quite like, you need to, and so we're going 409 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,300 to have issues with that. Gotcha. 410 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,900 Gotcha. You mentioned you wake up at 411 00:19:17,900 --> 00:19:19,500 4:00 every day. What is your alarm clock 412 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:24,600 situation? So I started waking up to an 413 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,200 alarm at four and then I go to bed. 414 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,100 I'm in bed, six and a half hours before I need to get up takes 415 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:36,700 about 20 minutes to fully get in a full deep sleep and I wake up 416 00:19:36,700 --> 00:19:38,300 usually, about 10 minutes before my alarm. 417 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:41,800 So I wake up naturally because I've set myself to do that. 418 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,900 You can you can set your body to wake up where You want as long 419 00:19:45,900 --> 00:19:49,000 as you understand, I need six. I need eight hours of sleep. 420 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,700 That's what my body requires and then just count backwards. 421 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,600 So, you know, if you're going to get up at 4:00, you need to be 422 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:59,100 asleep by 10:00. So I get in bed about 9:00 9:30. 423 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:03,400 After I put my kids sleep, and then I'll get off at 4:00 not to 424 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:04,900 alarm at. That's just how I wake up. 425 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:07,800 The problem is that I could have it for on Saturday, and Sunday 426 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,400 as well. So, it's kind of hard to set 427 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:14,400 your body poke body on Sunday. I sleep till 9:00. 428 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,800 Yeah, but on the rest of the days, I got to get up at 5:30. 429 00:20:18,300 --> 00:20:21,500 It's hard to do that but you can set it to wake up at the same 430 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:23,900 time every day. Yeah, I'm pretty much the same 431 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:25,300 way. I wake up early as well. 432 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:28,400 I use one of those kind of splurged on my lap. 433 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,800 Let me get one of those that gradually gets brighter and 434 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,300 brighter with like birds chirping. 435 00:20:32,300 --> 00:20:36,200 So it's not nearly as jolting as a traditional alarm clock if you 436 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,900 use 5000k daylight, I must to. So, what happens with that is we 437 00:20:41,900 --> 00:20:44,300 see this, a lot of people have sleeping issues, they'll watch 438 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,900 They're play with her. Phone will be in that 5000k 439 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,300 light and they'll turn the lights off and I don't know why 440 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:53,100 I can't go to sleep, your brain. Your eyes are brain tissue. 441 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:55,900 And so what ends up happening is that if you're in bright light, 442 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:58,700 your body does not produce melatonin, it produces serotonin 443 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:01,200 serotonin keeps you awake, melatonin helps you to sleep. 444 00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:06,000 So if you're asleep and you gradually start, brightening the 445 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,800 room your body, just naturally assumes the sun's coming up and 446 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,200 a search stops producing melatonin starts producing 447 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:13,900 serotonin. So you naturally wake up and 448 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:14,700 you're ready to go. Go. 449 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,000 So those those alarms are my favorite, the problem with that 450 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,600 is that if your wife gets up at six, when you get up at 4:00 451 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:25,400 waking, her up with lights at for, is not the nicest things to 452 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:26,400 do. True. 453 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,200 True. What you also mention that you 454 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,100 do about two hours of research, first thing in the morning. 455 00:21:31,100 --> 00:21:33,200 What do you do for research, man? 456 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,100 Because I've been diving all kinds of things. 457 00:21:35,100 --> 00:21:38,600 And it's like, you know, a lot of these, a lot of these studies 458 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,600 are blocked by a pay wall. Like there's not really a good 459 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,000 way to go about efficiently, researching any Topic. 460 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,300 So this is kind of offered engineer, but I'm curious. 461 00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:50,100 What have you found to work best for you when it comes to 462 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,600 deciphering to information, just digging deeper into a given 463 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:56,200 topic. So I use DuckDuckGo, a lot 464 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,100 switch is stuck together like this week. 465 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:01,000 Yeah, they don't, they don't. So for instance, the biggest 466 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:05,000 reason, this one so not to get off in the conspiracy things. 467 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:10,000 But in the covid deal there, the CDC admitted that only 6% of 468 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,800 people who died from covid. That 400,000 are only six 469 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:15,700 percent of those people. I actually died from covid. 470 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:20,500 The rest died with cogut. If you Google 6%, CDC covid, it 471 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:23,000 won't come up with anything. If you do that on DuckDuckGo, it 472 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,700 will come up with the admission and the point on the CDC website 473 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:29,500 where it talks about it. So one is finding the right 474 00:22:29,500 --> 00:22:31,000 search engine for what you're looking for. 475 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:35,500 But I do a lot of in CBI Medical Research and then I do pay for a 476 00:22:35,508 --> 00:22:39,800 lot of research because I want to get I want to get all the 477 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,500 information and then I will I will let what's going on with my 478 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,200 patients. Or what I need to, you know, 479 00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:50,300 explain to somebody, dictate how I'm doing things. 480 00:22:50,300 --> 00:22:55,100 So like right now we're seeing a lot of cardio myositis for 481 00:22:55,100 --> 00:22:59,700 seeing a lot of damage from the secondary pieces of what covid 482 00:22:59,700 --> 00:23:04,300 is and so doing a lot of research into that and figuring 483 00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,700 out how to how to fix inflammation of the heart, how 484 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:10,400 to fix, inflammation throughout the body, how to do what, what 485 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,400 best testing formats is, is that we're doing, I'm doing a lot of 486 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:18,600 Right now, and then we'll get down into, you know, Hyperbaric 487 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,300 function. It was one of the big things I 488 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:23,800 did for a long time and testosterone function. 489 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,500 So just little things like that that, you know, other people 490 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:29,000 aren't looking into. That's generally where I spend 491 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,400 all my time. He's like a particular resource 492 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,500 that you use that you like paying subscription for to have 493 00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:35,800 access to the studies that it provides like, is there like a 494 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:40,500 specific provider there. So I'm part of Harvard's 495 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,300 research dump. I've got several different ones. 496 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,400 UCLA. So just different. 497 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,000 Oh use medical health health medical science center. 498 00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:54,400 So I'll go through and get whatever I can from those and 499 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,200 often times the way a lot of times. 500 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,500 Well, this started was that I'd look for something and it would 501 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,800 be like, hey, if you want to read this, you've got to buy 502 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,900 this article from this place that wouldn't do it. 503 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,800 Now, if you like the fifth or sixth time, it's like you got to 504 00:24:05,808 --> 00:24:08,300 subscribe to this specific place to get all these different 505 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:10,000 articles all bike, right? Cool. 506 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,100 I'll spend $10 or $20 a month so I can get access to this stuff 507 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,300 because I'm going to use it every day. 508 00:24:14,500 --> 00:24:15,900 Yeah, and so that's why I go back there. 509 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,000 And that's how I choose who I'm going to pay. 510 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,400 Got you makes total sense. Does that mean two hormones of 511 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,500 the main? Because that's something that 512 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:25,800 I've had several guest on the podcast talking about and it's 513 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:28,600 kind of weird because I'm a natural competitive bodybuilder. 514 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,600 So like there's so many strict rules on what I can and can't 515 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,700 take. But that may not necessarily 516 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:36,200 line up properly with what is optimal from a Health and 517 00:24:36,208 --> 00:24:40,500 Longevity standpoint, especially as people age, so I'd love to 518 00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,400 predict for you kind of just dive into that man's. 519 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,400 Like, what are you seeing with your practice people? 520 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:45,800 And different age. Brackets? 521 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:49,600 What seems to be effective and just improving their quality of 522 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,700 life. So I own a hormone therapy 523 00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,500 company night. Like I said, I do lots of work 524 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:57,500 with injectable medical testosterone and the adjuncts, 525 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,700 but I'm it's also kind of weird because I try really, really 526 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:02,300 hard. Never never to sell it to 527 00:25:02,308 --> 00:25:04,800 anybody. So, what we'll do is I'll bring 528 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,400 people and I'm like, look, let's take that. 529 00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:09,700 Let's get your selenium up like four men. 530 00:25:09,700 --> 00:25:12,000 Let's get your selenium of. Let's get your own ego home Igor 531 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,600 horny, goat weed in. Let's get you know, all All the 532 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,100 different herbs and to feed the testicle to give you all the 533 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:20,800 benefits so that your body can produce more testosterone. 534 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,700 So, we'll take a blood test and we'll miss Alaska. 535 00:25:23,700 --> 00:25:25,600 How do you feel has your energy and your sex drive? 536 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,100 How do you feel after you workout house or you the next 537 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,100 day? How's your inner? 538 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:32,400 How tired are you at night? And then we'll give them all 539 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,000 these supplements after a blood test and we'll give them three 540 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,400 months. When we're going back in. 541 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,600 I'll be like, okay, how do you feel now? 542 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,400 Where's your energy? All the same questions? 543 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,500 Where's your blood at? And we give them tons of 544 00:25:43,508 --> 00:25:45,400 nutrients. And if they come back in and 545 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,400 they're like, I don't feel that much different, their blood 546 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,500 tests aren't that much better? They were just like, all right, 547 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:51,800 cool. We're going to go to medical 548 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:55,200 injectables. And so depends on the person. 549 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:58,600 If they have no family history of prostate issues, prostate 550 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,600 cancer, anything like that, then testosterone sippy Nate's, 551 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,600 actually a great medication to use if they have a family 552 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,400 history of prostate cancer or personal history of prostate 553 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,400 issues. Then nandrolone Dam, dam is a 554 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,800 great option for them because that will not convert to 555 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,300 estrogen. It will also not converted. 556 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,800 Dihydrotestosterone. So it's a little bit better of a 557 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,500 buffer. We can sometimes split the to 558 00:26:19,500 --> 00:26:22,000 give a little bit of deck and a little bit of sippy night to 559 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,400 have the best of both worlds. So that's where we kind of go 560 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,800 with that one. One of the biggest reasons. 561 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,100 We started the hormone therapy coming was for women, because 562 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,100 women would come in and they try to buy calcium and D3. 563 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,700 And when it's 50 year, old woman comes and buys calcium and III, 564 00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:38,900 you know why? She's buying it, but you still 565 00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,400 start the conversation. What is this for? 566 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,700 Well, I have osteoporosis. And so, you know, my doctor my 567 00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:49,300 calcium is good, which is Not totally untrue. 568 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,200 But the problem is that inside the bone. 569 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,900 There's two cells. There's one holding osteoclast 570 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:57,300 which breaks bones down that responds to parathyroid hormone, 571 00:26:57,300 --> 00:27:00,700 which we never really lose the other one called the osteoblast 572 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:05,500 builds bone back up that only responds to testosterone so you 573 00:27:05,500 --> 00:27:07,500 can have all the calcium in your blood you want. 574 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,900 If you don't have testosterone, the osteoblasts will not absorb 575 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:14,700 the calcium and create new bone. So that was one of the pieces. 576 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:19,900 That what also happens is that Fat, accumulation metabolism, 577 00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:23,400 muscle muscle density, heart function, blood vessel function 578 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:26,800 energy, cognitive function. That's all tide of testosterone 579 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,500 as well. So that would always help these 580 00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:30,600 women. Also. 581 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:33,100 Now, one of the fun things that I tell the story, because I was 582 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:36,100 told, I had to not buy you buy patient. 583 00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:39,000 So I have this patient. She's just over 50, she came in 584 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,300 and she has been on testosterone for, I don't know, six weeks and 585 00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,400 she has I had the first orgasm. I've had in five years last 586 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,500 night. She was At from the 587 00:27:47,500 --> 00:27:50,300 testosterone, I was like, yeah, it helps restore blood flow to 588 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:52,500 put to the clitoris and the nerve flow, the clitoris, just 589 00:27:52,500 --> 00:27:54,100 like it does the penis and she was like, okay. 590 00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:56,400 You never told me that she was next time. 591 00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,700 Lead with that. She's had I known that she's 592 00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:00,700 like I would have been much more excited about getting off. 593 00:28:01,300 --> 00:28:05,300 So that is a big piece as well. We have a lot of women who come 594 00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:08,900 in who tell me sex. There's sex is so much better. 595 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:12,200 They enjoy it a lot more now and so they're more willing to have 596 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,700 it which also makes obviously any marriage a lot better. 597 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,600 So there's A ton of things. It's a saucer and does, for men 598 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,400 and women that are really positive. 599 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,400 The problem is that it does increase metabolism. 600 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,700 So this is the reason I say this is a problem is because people 601 00:28:26,700 --> 00:28:29,800 don't understand with habilis meds metabolism is turnover of 602 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,200 cells. So, how quickly does your body 603 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,200 create new cells. So, if you think of it this way, 604 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,500 if you make ten tables a day, you need supplies and resources 605 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,000 to make ten tables. If you make a hundred tables a 606 00:28:42,008 --> 00:28:44,700 day, you need ten times supplies. 607 00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:48,500 So that's when we start looking at Where are your B vitamins? 608 00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,900 That where's your niacin that where's, you know, your co Q 10 609 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:53,800 levels? What we wear, how much water you 610 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,600 bring it in, how much of leucine and isoleucine, you're bringing 611 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,700 it. So when you start taking more 612 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:04,500 testosterone, it's going to rev your engine up and is going to 613 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:06,900 make everything kind of go harder and faster. 614 00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:08,700 So you've got to support that with nutrients. 615 00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:10,700 That's one of the, that's one of the big things. 616 00:29:10,700 --> 00:29:13,600 I see that's missing and I probably about 90% of people who 617 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:17,000 give testosterone is again, they don't look holistically and 618 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,700 Don't think when I wrap your engine up, when we go from a V4 619 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:22,800 to a V12. What else? 620 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 Are you going to need to maintain this for a health 621 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,700 standpoint for a long period of time. 622 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:29,800 So that's one of the big things we see the other. 623 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:33,200 The only other thing is safety wise, if you're on testosterone, 624 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,800 you have to look at what's called your hemoglobin and 625 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,700 hematocrit or your H, and H. That's how thick your blood 626 00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,500 gets, because testosterone can make your blood thicker. 627 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,500 If your blood gets thicker, it puts more pressure on your blood 628 00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:45,400 vessels in your heart. So we're looking at heart, heart 629 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,000 attack and stroke. So as As long as you're watching 630 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,400 your h.h. And you're getting your 631 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,600 nutrients in the sauce, from is actually a lot safer than people 632 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,900 think it is. Yeah, he's had to really be on 633 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,100 top of all your different markers, getting your blood test 634 00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,400 regularly, and just kind of being proactive, instead of 635 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,100 reactive. Exactly. 636 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,300 So if someone's doing a lot of people come to like, you know, 637 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,600 hormone replacement clinics, and then they they just 638 00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,600 automatically reach for him. The exoticness hormones because 639 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:13,200 they haven't really done the legwork to figure out how to 640 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,100 improve their Sleep. Quality improve their diet and 641 00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:17,000 prove everything else. That should be the foundational. 642 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,500 Someone's got all that dialed in to a tee. 643 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:23,400 What are? What are some some blood levels? 644 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,900 Like, what? Like someone go get some hormone 645 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:26,800 tests done the look into lab panels. 646 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,500 What are some? Good healthy ranges that you 647 00:30:28,500 --> 00:30:30,300 like to see for? Both males and females. 648 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,200 So for guys, we like somewhere between 800 and 1,200. 649 00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,300 Now, we can go to 1500. I'm not terribly worried about 650 00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,100 that women. Women are little bit, you know, 651 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:41,300 more difficult. I've seen. 652 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,400 I've worked with women who at testosterone levels of 80, they 653 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,100 were perfect. Everything was the way that we 654 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,000 wanted. It know some No bad symptoms, 655 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,800 they felt amazing. And I've had women that it took 656 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,200 to get to 200 before they felt that way. 657 00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:56,400 So, that's, that's kind of the play. 658 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,100 So we tell people 80 to 150 on women and there's a little 659 00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,800 buffer obviously. And then men, you know, 800 to 660 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,000 1200 1200. There's obviously a little 661 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,400 buffer in there as well. But one of the other big caveat 662 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,600 saint for talking about numbers is so testosterone is a 663 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,700 seven-day 1:30. So if you get to, you get to 10 664 00:31:15,700 --> 00:31:18,500 units on Monday. Ten-year-old, background the 665 00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:19,800 Monday. You're going to be at 5. 666 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,900 So a lot of people will end up. What will happen is that they'll 667 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:26,200 take a shot on Monday. They'll feel awesome, Tuesday, 668 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600 Wednesday, still feel great, but it rolls back around the Monday 669 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,100 and they feel terrible and Sunday. 670 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,400 And so some people decide. Well, I'm just going to double 671 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,400 the dose I take on Monday so I can last all the way through the 672 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,100 week. I don't think that's the best 673 00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:42,000 idea. I like to tell people take two 674 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,500 shots, one on Monday, one on Thursday, went on Tuesday. 675 00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:47,700 When on Friday, someone like that split the week up and then 676 00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,100 decrease your dose. Now. 677 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:50,900 Here's the other cool thing. That happens with that. 678 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,900 If you're taking 10 units, then your body says, look, I can 679 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:57,200 handle seven anything over that. I'm going to start converting it 680 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,900 to estrogen and BHT and we have acne and dark-haired, all this 681 00:32:00,900 --> 00:32:03,900 Jazz. Then you're always going to have 682 00:32:03,900 --> 00:32:07,700 side effects, taking 10 units, but if you broke it down into 683 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:10,900 six units. Twice a week, which is 12 units 684 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:13,300 total for the week. But because your body is 685 00:32:13,300 --> 00:32:16,600 constantly breaking it down. You never get too high. 686 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,200 You're not going to have the side effects. 687 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,000 You're not going to have the blood thickening, the acne, the 688 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,400 darkening, a hair, you know, you're not going to have those 689 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,400 other issues. So, you know, plus you're not 690 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,000 going to have the I'm tired because I don't have enough 691 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,500 testosterone left. So that's where the big piece of 692 00:32:29,500 --> 00:32:32,100 when we talk about numbers is, you know, just because you're 693 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:34,600 not at 1500, doesn't mean you're not where you need to be. 694 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,400 You could be 1,000 because you've leveled that, that you've 695 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,900 dropped a big spike. You're taking it more often and 696 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:42,100 you're actually going to be better than if you were at 697 00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,700 twelve. Thirteen fourteen hundred at one 698 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,600 point in time during the week. Gotcha. 699 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,000 Gotcha. A lot of people just look at the 700 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,100 total. They don't like, look at the 701 00:32:48,108 --> 00:32:50,400 free testosterone and the sex hormone-binding globulin. 702 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,000 Any of the other variables are correct. 703 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,800 So and those playing as well there, you know, for a lack of 704 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,100 for making it easier to understand. 705 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:04,700 You can go with the total T, but the sex fighting globule, home 706 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:06,900 run will actually pull down. The effectiveness. 707 00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:09,400 Is it kind of blocks? It's the receptors. 708 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,800 So it is something to look at it here at 12:00. 709 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,400 You're like, I'm not where I want to be. 710 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,000 You can start pulling these in their lives - okay. 711 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,700 Here's why you're not where you want to be is because some of 712 00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:20,000 this is getting blocked. And so that is one of the things 713 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,100 that we do look at. It's usually a secondary thing, 714 00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,700 but it is it is important to remember. 715 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,000 Do you think it's possible for people to just absolutely Thrive 716 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,400 without any exotic hormones at all for the Long Haul? 717 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,000 Now? Well, let me take that back. 718 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,300 If you're a billionaire and you don't have to worry about work. 719 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:41,400 Work and your family has no stress and everything. 720 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,000 Every part of your life is smooth possibly. 721 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:49,000 But men and women both start losing testosterone as we age 722 00:33:49,100 --> 00:33:50,900 just because our body starts breaking down. 723 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:54,100 But as we talked about earlier, the higher, your stress, the 724 00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:56,300 lower your testosterone, they're just, they're inversely 725 00:33:56,300 --> 00:33:59,100 proportionate. So, you know, people come in. 726 00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:01,000 They're like, I don't have any stress and like, really are you 727 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,800 married like well, yeah, like if kids like, oh, yeah. 728 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,000 Like give a job. Yep. 729 00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:08,300 Yep. I got bills to pay. 730 00:34:08,500 --> 00:34:10,800 Guys, okay. So you do have some stress. 731 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,500 We just don't know how much it's actually affecting your body, 732 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,500 just because you don't feel stressed out. 733 00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:17,900 Like I have a bunch of guys who are crushing it making tons of 734 00:34:17,900 --> 00:34:21,699 money, living their purpose, loving their job and you run 735 00:34:21,699 --> 00:34:24,400 them through stress, protocols and stress functionality testing 736 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,400 and they're, they're really stressed out chemically to their 737 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,500 body. Psychologically. 738 00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:30,800 They're good, but Kenneth is our bodies are not as great. 739 00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:34,000 So you need to start working on the Hyperbaric stuff that high 740 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:37,300 dose, co Q 10 the methylated B vitamins in the testosterone to 741 00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:38,699 keep them where they need to be. Be. 742 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,100 Yeah, I've seen guys who are good at 40, who need to soften 743 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:45,400 it 45. I've seen women who needed it 744 00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,900 25:26. So just depends on your body. 745 00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:51,000 And what's going on in your life. 746 00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:53,699 Got ya, got ya. It's kind of weird, man. 747 00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,500 Like for me like in the natural federation's I competed. 748 00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,500 I mean they've got like a like certain federation's are much 749 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:02,200 stricter than others. But the one like the WNBA, if 750 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,300 that I competed it's got like a hard-and-fast, you know, ten 751 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,700 year, you know, banned from ink from any competitions if you 752 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:11,100 taken Thing like it's super, super straight and I understand 753 00:35:11,100 --> 00:35:13,200 where they're coming from because, you know, athletes 754 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:14,800 people that are really competitive, you give them an 755 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,200 inch, they take a mile, but it's kind of the same time. 756 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,300 It's like if you want to compete because you're passionate about 757 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,300 the sport in the lifestyle and you want to compete like in 758 00:35:25,300 --> 00:35:28,300 Masters divisions and you know, you're 50 years old, 60 years 759 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,300 old, you know, there may be a tipping point at which like your 760 00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:34,300 quality of life may be diminishing just that you can 761 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:36,500 step on a stage so you can have to balance that out with 762 00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:37,800 whatever is best for you personally. 763 00:35:39,100 --> 00:35:42,100 Yeah, the other way that I've started looking at this is you 764 00:35:42,100 --> 00:35:45,800 know, if if someone was a diabetic and they were taking 765 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000 insulin, no one would bat not be like, oh your body does not 766 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,300 produce enough insulin the specific hormone. 767 00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,700 It doesn't produce enough of it. So you need to take extra to 768 00:35:54,700 --> 00:35:56,500 live the life and do the things you want to do. 769 00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,700 No one says anything about that but you know, if you take this 770 00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:03,000 all start at all, you're a horrible person and you know, 771 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,600 you're a cheater and this and that, you know, if they can on 772 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,100 this look, okay? No one can go over 1,000. 773 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:11,700 If you're at 50, you can bump all the way up to 1000. 774 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:14,400 If you're at 950, you can only go to 1000. 775 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,400 I think I'd be more fair than just saying, you know, we're 776 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,000 going to do deal with whatever your body can produce because I 777 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,900 know guys who are in their 50s who are still in 900 level, you 778 00:36:25,908 --> 00:36:28,400 know, but I also know guys are in their 20s who are. 779 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,200 So I was in a car wreck and I had a lot of stress when I 780 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,300 tested my testosterone and I was 27, I was 185. 781 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,100 So and I found out because I broke my feet. 782 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,600 Running. That's how bad my bones got. 783 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:45,100 So to say well, we're just going to be natural and if you want to 784 00:36:45,107 --> 00:36:49,600 compete you can't do anything. That's technically not super 785 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,500 Fair because like I said, there's people who are going to 786 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,000 be at 900. There's going to be people here 787 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,900 at 185. So I think if they just settle 788 00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:58,400 level message, we're going to test you. 789 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:01,400 And if you're above this point, you can't, you can't 790 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,800 participate. I think that would be more fair, 791 00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:05,300 but I see where they're coming from. 792 00:37:05,300 --> 00:37:07,400 Because like you said, you give an athlete an inch. 793 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,700 They take a mile. Yeah, it's so crazy to because 794 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:12,400 like, they change so much throughout the course of a prep. 795 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,000 Like I did my last prep and I was at 800 at the onset and then 796 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,100 by the end of it and dropped to four hundred simply from, you 797 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,800 know, the stress that comes with the prep, the lower calories and 798 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,000 everything that had prep entails. 799 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,100 So like if you were to keep someone an even base line of, 800 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,900 you know, 800 or so, for instance, that wouldn't be 801 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,900 necessarily natural per se because the your body is 802 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,200 naturally going to decline and total test as you go through a 803 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,600 primp, but it's like, you know, what's optimally? 804 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,000 Healthy? This is not because a lot of 805 00:37:39,008 --> 00:37:42,300 competitors, you know, they'll have they'll not have their diet 806 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:44,300 in, check it all out of them that follow traditional 807 00:37:44,300 --> 00:37:47,700 protocols and have minimal dietary fat and they get down to 808 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,300 you know, 45 percent body fat. I mean that they're not taken 809 00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:53,900 any of the cholesterol or dietary fats, necessary, as 810 00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:56,400 precursors to testosterone. So their testosterone is 811 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,200 absolutely Bond down. Yeah, the private we get into is 812 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:04,300 that people think testosterone? And I think biceps he packs and 813 00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:07,100 stuff like that. Your heart is a muscle. 814 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,700 It has to happen. Fostering to regenerate and heal 815 00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:12,800 and continue to function. All of your blood vessels have 816 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:13,500 muscle. The Tunica. 817 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:15,400 Media is a blood but this is muscle. 818 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,700 So if we start losing testosterone, we're going to 819 00:38:18,700 --> 00:38:21,400 start losing health of the heart and blood vessels. 820 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:24,600 The other piece is that, you know, all your metabolism is 821 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,000 based around that cognitive function. 822 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,900 There's a bunch of things that are tied to testosterone that 823 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,400 aren't necessarily what you consider important for 824 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:38,400 bodybuilding. So, a lot of times we When I 825 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,200 work with people will see some of the they'll be like, oh, I 826 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,500 want to be natural and I want to do this. 827 00:38:42,500 --> 00:38:45,200 I'm gonna do that and I'm like, well, do you want to be where's 828 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:46,700 your focus? You want to be natural or do 829 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,200 want to be healthy? And I think the best example of 830 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,500 this is when my wife and I were going to have our first kid and 831 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,500 the r0b Jen looked at this and she said she's wildly medical. 832 00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:00,600 Not we don't see eye to eye on all the medical choices, but she 833 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,100 has. She's one of your what's your 834 00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:03,700 goal? We said we would have a natural 835 00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:08,100 childbirth. She is no, we're like no, that's 836 00:39:08,100 --> 00:39:09,300 what we watch. Is not satisfied. 837 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:11,900 What you want and I was like, all right. 838 00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:13,800 She is you want a healthy? Happy baby to healthy. 839 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:14,400 Happy. Mommy. 840 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,600 That's your goal. How we get there? 841 00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:18,500 We can talk about the goal is healthy. 842 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:20,400 Happy baby. Healthy, happy mommy, and it was 843 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:22,200 such a phenomenal mind shift for me. 844 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,100 That was like, yeah, that's actually what we want. 845 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,700 We just need to figure out the different path and it was funny 846 00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:30,300 because we didn't have happening, just like my bike. 847 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,800 My wife's body works. She had to have an epidural to 848 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,300 dilate and actually have So because our mind shifted a 849 00:39:37,308 --> 00:39:41,200 little bit, we were over, we're more open to Alternatives and 850 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,700 things like that. So when we start looking at 851 00:39:43,700 --> 00:39:46,700 goals often times, you're like, why is that your goal? 852 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,400 So it seems like, well, I want to be, I want to be totally 853 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,000 natural, but I want to have x y&z. 854 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,400 What, why? Why do you want to be natural? 855 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,100 Well, I want to be healthy. Okay. 856 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:59,400 Well, you might be subject. You might be decreasing your 857 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,800 health by trying to stay natural. 858 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,200 And so that's one of the things I'm trying to teach my patients. 859 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,500 Is that Just because it's pharmaceutical, doesn't mean 860 00:40:06,500 --> 00:40:09,200 it's bad just because it's natural, doesn't mean it's good. 861 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,800 There's a lot of people who think veganism is the healthiest 862 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,900 way to go and they're wrong. And lots, and lots and lots of 863 00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:17,600 reasons. So, just because of what we, 864 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,900 what we think of trying to be healthy, oftentimes can decrease 865 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,400 our actual Health. Yeah. 866 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,800 Yeah, totally gonna mean for me like I'm in the bodybuilding 867 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,400 space. So I see all these people that 868 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,100 abuse, you know, performance hands and drugs, they take it to 869 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:33,400 totally different extreme. That is certainly not healthy. 870 00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,700 And you see a lot of dropping dead like flies. - here lately, 871 00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:38,700 which is kind of scary. But that is most certainly not 872 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:40,700 what the average person's to this. 873 00:40:40,700 --> 00:40:42,900 Just trying to improve their quality of life and Longevity is 874 00:40:42,900 --> 00:40:45,500 going to be doing. Yeah, and it's funny because 875 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:47,600 like, you know, a lot of fashion. 876 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:51,700 See I'm just naturally a very large person and people come in. 877 00:40:51,707 --> 00:40:53,800 They're like, well, if I do test, I don't want to get big 878 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,400 like you and I'm like, that's you won't like just taking 879 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,300 tests. He's going to heal your body. 880 00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:02,000 That's all it does is healing hormone. 881 00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:04,800 So if you work out really hard, you take all the stuff. 882 00:41:04,900 --> 00:41:07,700 Plantation to go to loosen all the isoleucine, you get, all 883 00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:10,100 your sleep, you sleep really. Well, you all the water, you get 884 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,700 all the stuff you need. You will get bigger. 885 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,200 Your body is designed to only get so big. 886 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:19,000 You've got to use either. So you're not going to 887 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,700 accidentally get you back. Yeah. 888 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,200 And so, you know, that's where the big words, we get. 889 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:26,700 We have a ton of women who come in, who are worried about, this 890 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,100 is always fun, women come in. They're like, well, if I take 891 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:31,400 testosterone, I don't want to get big like a man. 892 00:41:31,900 --> 00:41:34,600 Then I always have like, okay, let me show you some pictures of 893 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,200 people. Now, and you sure these most 894 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,100 phenomenally, beautiful aesthetic bikini models, that I 895 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:44,200 work with and I'm like, you know, would you be okay looking 896 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,100 like this? They're like, oh, yeah, like 897 00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,700 they're on about 50% more tests than you would ever want to 898 00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:51,900 take. So don't, don't worry about 899 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:56,800 getting too big. Don't worry about having the bad 900 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,000 bad body, build reaction that you don't want, because it takes 901 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,600 a lot of work to get bigger. Yeah, totally green. 902 00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:08,000 And I mean on the opposite of the spectrum, I think like I 903 00:42:08,008 --> 00:42:10,600 kind of mentioned earlier, like so many people automatically 904 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:14,100 reach for, you know, these Super Supplements before they even are 905 00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:17,000 aware of what their body's capable of naturally and I feel 906 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,400 like, you know, as long as people have a super solid base. 907 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,900 They don't ever allow themselves to, you know, go awry and put on 908 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:27,100 a bunch of extras excess body fat and they're constantly in 909 00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:28,800 the gym working out and they're doing everything like they 910 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,300 should, they're on top of nutrition. 911 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:34,100 Like you can maintain pretty awesome levels of, you know, 912 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,900 Other hormones from a completely natural standpoint a lot longer 913 00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:41,900 than people realize. Yeah, that's actually. 914 00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:43,800 It's funny because one of the things people come in, they go. 915 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,100 Well, I want to sastra who don't will be overweight and like, 916 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,200 have you had a sleep study? Like, what am I gonna be a sleep 917 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,600 study? Because I'd say about 40 percent 918 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,600 of the people that I work with, who are in their 35 to 40 who 919 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,100 are overweight over fat. Sorry, that have low T. 920 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,300 It's because they have sleep apnea. 921 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,900 Hmm. And so you Give them the oxygen 922 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,300 back at night. They start, they start healing 923 00:43:08,300 --> 00:43:11,700 the body at night, which is when we repair generate anyway, and 924 00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:14,600 all of a sudden because nobody can Now physiologically function 925 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,600 properly because they have a CPAP or whatever. 926 00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:20,400 Now lives in their testosterone comes back up, I've seen and I'm 927 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:21,900 not getting up. Some people going to, from the 928 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:25,700 high 300s to the 800s like the easy a little bit more than 929 00:43:25,700 --> 00:43:29,000 double their testosterone, just because we get to sleep stuff 930 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,300 fixed. And so, that's really, again, 931 00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:33,200 that goes back to the whole, we're gonna look at the whole 932 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,600 person that like, you In sleep is such a big issue. 933 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,800 Your are you sleeping properly? Are you sleeping? 934 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,100 The right amount of hours. Are you sleeping consistently, 935 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:44,800 you know, that that piece is a big piece, you know, and so, 936 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,500 we'll go through and do that. Yeah, started mouth taping about 937 00:43:48,500 --> 00:43:50,900 a year year and a half ago and I do that pretty much every single 938 00:43:50,900 --> 00:43:51,900 night. Without fail on that. 939 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:54,300 That seems to made a pretty big impact as I'm just nasal 940 00:43:54,300 --> 00:43:55,700 breathing hundred percent of time. 941 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:57,400 Yeah. Yeah. 942 00:43:57,500 --> 00:43:59,600 So the there's, there's two types of apnea. 943 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,900 There's one that's called instructive. 944 00:44:00,900 --> 00:44:03,600 That's where people snore and then the centralized that thing 945 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,500 which is where you literally just It stopped breathing and 946 00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:09,800 that's what we do to sleep sense cuz you can find out. 947 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,000 Are you snoring? Which we can you can fix with 948 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:14,800 now pieces? You can fix for taping faced 949 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,400 with things like that. Or are you stopped? 950 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,300 Are you just not breathing? Mine was I just stopped reading 951 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,900 and it was bad. Like I'm still were the worst 952 00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:27,800 people I've ever tested and again, I would have known. 953 00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,800 How did not test it? Because I felt awesome all the 954 00:44:29,808 --> 00:44:32,600 time, you know, lifting great energy all day. 955 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,800 Everything's fine, and then I got to sleep. 956 00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:36,600 Because it was one of the things that we can start doing for my 957 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,200 patients because researching it sounds like well I'm going to do 958 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,700 it first so I know like a patient asks me. 959 00:44:41,700 --> 00:44:44,000 What's it? Like I can tell them and my test 960 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,700 comes back. I was like, oh my God, I'm gonna 961 00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:48,000 die like flat-out. I'm going to die. 962 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:52,000 And so I've been on a CPAP for 10 years and it's been it's been 963 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:57,700 easy, but I know that my health is substantially better because 964 00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:59,800 of it. So, you know, it's one of those 965 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,100 things that everybody needs to get sleep. 966 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:02,700 Setting, everybody needs to get a calcium. 967 00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:04,700 CT just to know their own health. 968 00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:06,500 'The yeah, I agree. I agree. 969 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,800 You mentioned the veganism kind of opened up Pandora's Box there 970 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:11,500 and we've been talking about hormones. 971 00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:13,000 So, can you kind of tie those two together? 972 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,400 Like, what are some, some commonalities that you're seeing 973 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,600 in people from a hormonal standpoint that go the vegan 974 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:19,800 route thinking that they're doing themselves? 975 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:23,500 A lot of favors. So oftentimes, we see way too 976 00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:26,400 much soy consumption and not just normal soy, but processed 977 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:31,100 soy, and so soy has a very high phytoestrogen count. 978 00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,400 And so here's the problem with this when you do a blood test 979 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,100 and you say, Much testosterone. How much estrogen, how much this 980 00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:40,100 do I have? Those levels are extremely 981 00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:44,100 specific and so it will only find the human production of 982 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:47,300 estrogen. So you can still have a 40, you 983 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:49,500 know, estrogen levels, but you have so much Zeno and 984 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:52,600 phytoestrogens from Plastics and plants that it's like, you have 985 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,200 a 400 estrogen level, which suppresses testosterone does all 986 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,100 sorts of things to increase, body, fat, and water retention, 987 00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:02,400 and things like that. So, and then there's all sorts 988 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:06,800 of cancers that come along with that surgeons, so, So, the soy 989 00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,400 piece is problematic. The other big issue is that 990 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:12,300 unless you're unless you're really diligent. 991 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:15,900 I've written vegan diets for people, so it is possible to 992 00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:18,400 help me help you with them. But the average person doesn't 993 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,300 dive into my. Getting all my complete 994 00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,100 proteins, my getting all my amino acids. 995 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,900 Am I getting the actual nutrients? 996 00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:28,200 I need the idea that you can get the micronutrients. 997 00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,700 The vitamin C is the same as think. 998 00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:33,200 I'll let him suffer from food whether you're veganism or, or a 999 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,300 carnivore is, If you do the research guide, how much vitamin 1000 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:42,200 C is in an orange today. First 50 years ago, even eat 40 1001 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,100 oranges to get the same amount of vitamin C. 1002 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,600 So what we end up telling people is look, you're going to have to 1003 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:53,500 eat the food for the macros and worry about energy, so calories 1004 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:55,800 and fat content. So you're looking at your you're 1005 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,200 in, do more mesomorph acting more functionality there. 1006 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,300 So your your, your carbohydrate versus Matt fat content, but 1007 00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:04,500 you're going to have to do supplementation for all the 1008 00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:05,700 micro. Crow nutrients for all the 1009 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,000 nutrition that you have to have to run this body. 1010 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,000 And so these are two totally different things. 1011 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,800 Because often if you wanted to eat the food to get all the 1012 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,000 micronutrients and all the nutrition, you're going to eat 1013 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,600 ten, twelve thousand calories a day and have all sorts of issues 1014 00:47:18,700 --> 00:47:21,700 on the other side. So that's the big piece that 1015 00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,000 people really need to understand is that you're gonna have to 1016 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,800 supplement either way, but it's harder to deal with some of the 1017 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:31,400 downsides of being an ism than it is to deal with some of the 1018 00:47:31,408 --> 00:47:35,600 downsides of like a keto function because Most people, if 1019 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,200 you're, if you're a fat burning human being, he's your mezzo 1020 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,700 Endo or all the way to n do. That's going to be better for 1021 00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:43,800 you. No matter what because you're 1022 00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,600 actually gonna produce less inflammation because your body's 1023 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,400 burning the fuel source, it was designed to have. 1024 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,600 So we start talking about veganism, you know, a 1025 00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:55,200 plant-based plant. Everything is like super, super 1026 00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,800 big nowadays, but I don't understand why for my bio 1027 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,100 chemical standpoint. It's It's no better than 1028 00:48:03,100 --> 00:48:06,400 Carnival. Carnivore is for a very for the 1029 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:08,900 very end P, point of in the warps. 1030 00:48:09,300 --> 00:48:13,300 Veganism is for people in the very end of ecto or people. 1031 00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:15,100 Like so, for instance. I had a patient to patients come 1032 00:48:15,100 --> 00:48:15,900 in. They were married. 1033 00:48:16,500 --> 00:48:21,200 She was fresh off the boat. Chinese middle of China thousand 1034 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,900 years or her genetic history, has been the right there that 1035 00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:28,200 same Village Middle Of China. The other guy was Western 1036 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,800 European. They were eating kind of a mixed 1037 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,400 diet. The 30, 30, 30 style diet. 1038 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,200 They're both fat and miserable. I moved her to a full vegan diet 1039 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,800 because genetically they had meat meat. 1040 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,900 No one in her family for the last hundred years that even 1041 00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:44,500 meet the other. The other guy. 1042 00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:47,400 He had been eating meat and salmon and fish, it's like that. 1043 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,800 So we split them. He went to Morgan and no morph 1044 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:54,300 diet, more meat or fats. She went almost strict vegan 1045 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,500 cold months later. They both lost a bunch of fat. 1046 00:48:56,500 --> 00:48:58,300 They both felt amazing. Everything was working. 1047 00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:00,800 Right? So the problem we get into is 1048 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,600 that we talked about Veganism or whatever, there is no diet for 1049 00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,200 people. There's a diet for a person 1050 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,300 depending on their their body structures for their somatotype 1051 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,500 and then their genetic background, but the idea that we 1052 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:17,200 should all just give up eating meat and move to veganism 1053 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,000 because it's popular, or it's politically correct or whatever. 1054 00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:23,800 That's that's the worst thing that you can decide on. 1055 00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:25,600 Yeah. I don't know why. 1056 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,600 I mean, I guess I understand why it's gained so much traction, 1057 00:49:28,700 --> 00:49:30,800 you know, for people that feel like they're trying to save the 1058 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,900 planet or they get it behind. Hannah from like, an ethical 1059 00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:35,800 standpoint, oftentimes out of confusion. 1060 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,000 But I mean, I don't know. I've got, I've had several 1061 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,200 people in the podcast that are hardcore vegans. 1062 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,500 They seem to be thriving with it. 1063 00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:45,800 So who am I to say that they're wrong, but for me, personally, 1064 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,700 and for most of the people that I work with being, you know, 1065 00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:52,300 want to ketogenic Community is like, most people just don't 1066 00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:55,800 respond well to that much vegetation from a digestive 1067 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:58,600 standpoint like getting in as many calories as you would need 1068 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,200 to to hit your macronutrient Targets on a strictly vegan 1069 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,700 diet. We require so much, you know, 1070 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:06,800 vegetation that your, your digestive tracts, probably not 1071 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,000 going to be optimized. Well, the other thing is, it's 1072 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,300 so we've got think of it this way. 1073 00:50:11,300 --> 00:50:15,200 So you have diesel vehicles, you have unleaded vehicles, and 1074 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,100 electric vehicles. They run on very specific fuel 1075 00:50:19,100 --> 00:50:21,300 sources. You can't intermingle them 1076 00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,500 without damaging, the fuel source of the damaging, the 1077 00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:26,300 engine of that vehicle. And so, you know, we talk about 1078 00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:28,400 all this diversity. Oh, people are so diverse. 1079 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,700 We have all this diversity, diversity is fantastic. 1080 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,600 And then they go. What should we We should all eat 1081 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,600 exactly the same thing. You're like, well, that doesn't 1082 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,300 make any sense at all. So I think one of the things 1083 00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:40,100 that helps which are talking about, the Brit that the gap 1084 00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:43,100 between the carnivores, the vegans is like, they're both, 1085 00:50:43,100 --> 00:50:45,100 right? But it's one of those things 1086 00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:48,600 that, you know, should we have everybody be vegan or everybody. 1087 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:51,200 Carnivore know. There's going to be people who 1088 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,300 are going to thrive. Like you said, being vegans, 1089 00:50:53,500 --> 00:50:55,700 finishing people are going to thrive being carnivores. 1090 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,900 We just have to understand that there is such a thing as 1091 00:50:57,900 --> 00:50:59,800 diversity. And there is a thing as 1092 00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:03,300 difference and that's why the Diet that works for Sally. 1093 00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,000 Isn't the thing that we can work for Sally's best friend. 1094 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,800 So that's where we have to understand that. 1095 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,400 Maybe we're just a little too different and that's why things 1096 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,300 don't work the same and that's why things that are good for me 1097 00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:15,800 are not good for you. Why do you think there's so much 1098 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,800 diversity across the human species? 1099 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,200 Like you look at any other species and there's not near as 1100 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:22,600 much to verse in humans. Be fair. 1101 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,100 I mean, we're all the same species. 1102 00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:26,300 So it's like you would think we're all kind of functioning 1103 00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:30,700 with a pretty similar engine. So it's the easiest way to 1104 00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:34,400 explain this is if you look at we go back to the Chinese. 1105 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,700 So the Mongols. So if you look at people who 1106 00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:42,000 live in the center of China, all they've eaten forever is 1107 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,600 vegetation and so rice and that type of thing. 1108 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,600 So the people who did well metabolically with that thrive 1109 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,700 survived had a more offspring than genetically. 1110 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:55,600 Those off, that Offspring was even more and more and more set 1111 00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,000 towards only eating that particular food. 1112 00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:01,100 Then during the land bridge, thousands of years ago, those 1113 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,300 Chinese as Mongols crossed, the land bridge. 1114 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,800 And what is now Alaska? Well, what end up happening is 1115 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,600 that they didn't have any vegetation Engine Seal feet. 1116 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,800 And so ended up happening, is the Inuit Eskimo who the this 1117 00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,300 this group turned into be all they had to eat was that was 1118 00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,900 fields and so lots of them died. Well the ones who didn't die 1119 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,600 could process and function off of seal meat and feel fat. 1120 00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,600 And so as time went on the people, who are the Healthiest, 1121 00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,700 strongest best people in the group and the tribe were able to 1122 00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:36,300 have more and more children. And so it just genetically 1123 00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:40,900 filter down that the people from this area are going to do really 1124 00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:42,500 well with the food that's in this area. 1125 00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:46,700 As we start mixing because America one of the great things 1126 00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:48,800 about America is where this massive Melting Pot. 1127 00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,600 Like we've got people from all different types of walks of 1128 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,300 life. And so we look at America and 1129 00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:56,000 you're like, I don't understand why we can't come up with a 1130 00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:00,600 diets for Americans will see As you know, my neighborhood has 1131 00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,700 people who are first generation from are from Middle East 1132 00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,500 Africa. India, you know, London 1133 00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:11,700 Australia, like we've got this really diverse neighborhood, and 1134 00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:17,000 they all have different cultural and nutritional needs. 1135 00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,400 And so that's really where this comes from is, you know, if 1136 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,200 you're from a group of people who only had one thing to eat, 1137 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:26,500 those who survived over time, are going to be hypersensitive 1138 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,300 to anything besides. Ed's what they've been eating 1139 00:53:29,300 --> 00:53:31,400 for two hundred years. Yeah. 1140 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,800 It makes sense. And you get all these people 1141 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,400 from all over the world coming to America and eating the 1142 00:53:34,408 --> 00:53:37,000 standard American food, which is just heavily processed crap and 1143 00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,100 then everybody gets bad. That's right because no, no 1144 00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:43,700 one's diet is, no one's natural. System was like, hey, let's 1145 00:53:44,100 --> 00:53:46,400 let's use as many chemicals as possible to function. 1146 00:53:46,700 --> 00:53:49,300 So, you know, that's why these standard American diet doesn't 1147 00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:51,300 help anybody. Yeah, totally agree there. 1148 00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:55,500 I'm glad that I'm genetically disposed to function better on 1149 00:53:55,700 --> 00:53:59,300 rib eyes and bacon as opposed to Rice and bananas, I'm not gonna 1150 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:02,300 lie. I I'm happy where I am as well. 1151 00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:05,600 So we'll shoot, man. We've almost been talking for an 1152 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:06,700 hour. He's been flying by. 1153 00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:07,800 You. Got anything coming in the 1154 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,300 pipeline. Like what are you excited about? 1155 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,000 You know, I don't want to see say, I'm excited. 1156 00:54:14,700 --> 00:54:17,800 But one of the things that I'm starting to see is that, so, 1157 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:20,400 cardio myocyte has has been something that's been actually 1158 00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,700 very, very rare up until the past, probably 18 months, and 1159 00:54:24,700 --> 00:54:28,000 people are trying really hard to say all the hard issues. 1160 00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,300 Is all this cardiac issues of the blood vessel issues are all 1161 00:54:30,300 --> 00:54:34,800 because the vaccine I would, I would warn people against that 1162 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,100 type of, you know, one side of the other argument. 1163 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,100 I'm seeing a lot of my patients who have what appears to be 1164 00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:46,000 chiral my cardio myositis from just getting koban. 1165 00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:50,100 So, if you're starting to notice as a person that you're having 1166 00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:54,200 working out as harder, you're getting fatigued faster, you're 1167 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,100 sitting at your desk. You're sitting at your couch and 1168 00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,000 your heart rate goes over 100 for no. 1169 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,600 Those are signs that you need to get looked at. 1170 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,200 So echocardiograms are a great way to go. 1171 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,400 Cardiac MRIs are really going to be important. 1172 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:11,700 I am very worried that two three four years from now. 1173 00:55:11,700 --> 00:55:13,800 We're going to start having people with major heart problems 1174 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:18,300 that we didn't know about because we weren't looking for 1175 00:55:18,300 --> 00:55:21,700 issues of cardiomyocyte has. My whole my whole practice is 1176 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,100 bent on looking forward. So we do a lot of calcium 1177 00:55:25,100 --> 00:55:26,800 season, sleep studies. We check hormones. 1178 00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,000 We do all sorts of different planet. 1179 00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:31,000 Three panels, so we're geared to look for this thing. 1180 00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:33,300 The things that nobody's talking about yet. 1181 00:55:33,700 --> 00:55:38,100 And so that's the thing that I don't want an excited about. 1182 00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:41,400 But it's one of those things that I think that as far as 1183 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,500 looking forward, that we need to worry about our health wise. 1184 00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:45,700 We did start worrying about inflammation in the heart and 1185 00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:47,500 the blood vessels more than we are right now. 1186 00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:50,500 So if you are one of those people like I've had patients 1187 00:55:50,700 --> 00:55:53,500 coming from all over the place telling me this that you know, 1188 00:55:53,508 --> 00:55:57,100 like hey I go to the gym and I workout you're not 60% the way 1189 00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:59,700 through and I'm just Gathering. Like, what is going on? 1190 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:02,500 It's like, it's like I haven't worked out before or I get to 1191 00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:04,100 the top of the stairs. I get a little dizzy. 1192 00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:06,700 Like, what's I don't know what's going on or like I said, you 1193 00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:08,800 know, I'll just be sitting at my desk and I can feel my heart 1194 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,700 beat faster and I'll check my pulse ox for check. 1195 00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:13,300 My pulse. It's way over 100 or my resting. 1196 00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:14,700 Heart rate used to be 70. Now. 1197 00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:16,600 It's 90. What's going on? 1198 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,800 You need to go have that looked at, you know, go, go talk to 1199 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,100 some docs and let's, let's go get that looked at ahead of 1200 00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:23,100 time. So I think this is gonna be one 1201 00:56:23,100 --> 00:56:26,400 of those things that he's going to become a big deal and three 1202 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,800 or five years. And the problem is, if you let 1203 00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,100 your heart, Heart. You're damaged. 1204 00:56:29,100 --> 00:56:30,300 That's awesome. We can get back. 1205 00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,000 Yeah. Now, you're saying cardio. 1206 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,700 Myocyte. Is that the same thing as 1207 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,100 myocarditis? Yes. 1208 00:56:36,100 --> 00:56:37,400 Yes. Oh, it's inflammation of the 1209 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:38,700 heart muscle. Gotcha. 1210 00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:41,600 Gotcha. Yeah, I think I've the mean, I 1211 00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,700 definitely think people do eat wary of that for sure and be 1212 00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:48,400 more proactive in figuring out, what's causing it and how to 1213 00:56:48,408 --> 00:56:50,200 prevent it. Because, I mean, I don't know, 1214 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,500 man. I've been hearing these horror 1215 00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:53,500 stories lately and it's like, I look at my profession, my 1216 00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,300 lifestyle. And you know what? 1217 00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:57,200 I've got coming in the pipeline and that's the last thing I need 1218 00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,100 to be. Not going to my back door right 1219 00:56:59,100 --> 00:57:01,600 now. Yeah, it's been. 1220 00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,900 It's been scary because the more testing what we're doing. 1221 00:57:03,900 --> 00:57:06,300 The more we're finding these these symptoms and a lot of 1222 00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:10,400 people and I've been doing this for 15 years and we have never 1223 00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:13,700 seen it. In fact, you know myositis in 1224 00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:16,100 flesh. The heart muscle was a thing. 1225 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:18,700 You can get from the flu or from colds or things like that. 1226 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:22,700 The viral piece what it was very rare and now we're starting to 1227 00:57:22,707 --> 00:57:25,500 see a lot more and so that's the thing. 1228 00:57:25,500 --> 00:57:27,900 I think that, you know, like I said, it'll become a thing. 1229 00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:31,200 In a couple years, but if it's if you've got it now and you 1230 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,700 wait for five years to do anything about it or even to 1231 00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:35,500 find it. You're going to be a lot. 1232 00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:37,300 You're not getting a good Flex. Yeah. 1233 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:40,500 Just gives a fun little league. Renamed, totally green. 1234 00:57:40,700 --> 00:57:42,500 We'll shoot brother. Where do people go to follow 1235 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:44,100 along your journey and dig deeper, man. 1236 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,600 So, you know Instagram, YouTube, I'm dr. 1237 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,700 Chalmers the number one and then, you know, Chalmers 1238 00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:53,900 wellness.com. They can always go there and 1239 00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:55,600 find us there. So those two places are pretty 1240 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:57,900 much the the two big places. Awesome, man. 1241 00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:00,700 Well, I'm almost certainly Lincoln to those and thanks for 1242 00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:03,500 taking the time and I appreciate the conversation and Merry 1243 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:06,100 Christmas to you brother. Absolutely their Christmas to 1244 00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:08,200 take care. All right, I'll get it.