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Hello, ladies and gents Robert 
Sykes keto Savage.com. 

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And today I've got special 
guest, Leah Williamson on. 

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She is a nutritional therapy 
practitioner. 

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So we dive into all things 
nutrition. 

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We talked about paleo for quite 
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We talked about key Dome. 
We even talked about the vegan 

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diet because she's in Australia.
So the game changers, 

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documentary made some waves over
there, we talked about that we 

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do with deep into nutrition for 
kids like young kids, the youth 

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had a kind of prepare them to 
eat properly in life. 

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And so really enjoyed that 
conversation. 

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Learned a ton. 
Hope you enjoyed as well. 

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Sit back, relax. 
Enjoy the podcast with Leah 

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Williamson. 
And we're Lively. 

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How are you? 
I'm doing good. 

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Thanks, very much for having me.
Absolutely, absolutely. 

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You picked up the we connected 
on the Conn. 

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I could tell instantly that you 
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That the Australian accents 
coming through just a little 

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bit. 
You can tell straight away with 

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the Australian accent against 
the American one, can't you? 

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Yes, yes. 
I think, I think I've Likes it 

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to everybody tells me we got an 
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Anyways, you have quite a black 
deep American accent compared to

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a lot of people I feel so but 
it's good. 

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I like the sound of it. 
Good ol southern accent. 

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Yeah. 
So your nutritional therapist 

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practitioner I want to dive into
all things nutrition as it 

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relates to Quito and I've had a 
few in teepees on the podcast 

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perform and that seems like they
mostly focus on the digestive 

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aspect so we can definitely 
Touch on that, but I love to 

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kind of get some back story from
you and learn about what made 

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you want to go down that path in
the first place. 

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Yeah. 
So I've had quite the journey I 

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wasn't ever interested in 
nutrition. 

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In fact, like I used food more 
as a, you know, emotional kind 

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of reaction to whatever was 
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So if I was feeling happy, I'd 
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If I was feeling sad, I'd eat 
and it didn't matter what kind 

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of food it was because I just 
didn't even know what how food 

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could make you feel? 
And I had a lot of digestive 

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Choose as a child, I was tired 
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So I would basically eat food 
and then sleep and I wasn't a 

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very active child. 
So I would just kind of read 

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books and watch television and 
not get out and move much and 

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so, was quite chubby as a child,
I was picked on like bullied a 

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lot by other children and still 
never and made any of that 

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connection and as I got older 
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And in my early 20s, I was 
diagnosed with Hashimoto's. 

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Odo's, which is an autoimmune 
condition and I thought. 

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Wow, that's amazing. 
Like this is going to be the 

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answer to all my problems. 
I'm going to take this 

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medication and everything's 
going to be fine but it didn't 

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and while it might have 
regulated some of the crazy 

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moods I was having I was still 
feeling really fatigued and 

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really tired like really tired 
like you like almost like a 

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couldn't get out of bed. 
My my husband said to me, 

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where's my partner at the time 
he was like You know, if you 

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don't want to go to work, you 
don't have to go to work. 

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You know. 
Like if you could change your 

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job and I'm like, no, it's not 
that I physically just can't get

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up moving and out of bed. 
Like you don't understand, it's 

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not a mental, kind of thing. 
It's like a physical thing. 

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Those are like really 
chronically fatigued digestive 

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system getting worse. 
And luckily like, fortunately, I

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was able to give birth to my 
first child and then I reached 

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like, the peak, like I was 
looked at myself in the mirror. 

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I was tired. 
I couldn't run around with This 

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new baby I was barely 
functioning through like my 

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digestive system was almost like
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regulation was all over the 
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I was snacking all the time and 
then your team that with a 

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newborn and you're not sleeping 
and all those kind of things 

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that are happening and I was 
like, I've got to do something 

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about this and this was, you 
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ago and Crossfit was just coming
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thought I'm going to go join 
CrossFit and just, you know, 

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this is going to be the answer 
again, you know, and over the 

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years I'd always kind of like 
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So, you know, I always joke 
because, like, I've tried every 

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diet. 
There's out there except for, 

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like, the lemon detox diet 
because it had to have some kind

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of food involved in it. 
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thinking that I doubt exercise 
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And when I got there, I was 
introduced to this really 

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awesome community. 
And they were telling stories 

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about these people, like Rob 
wolf and, you know, Lauren 

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kidane, and all these people. 
And I was Of like, wow, these 

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are, this is fascinating and got
me interested and I tried like 

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a, you know, 30 day challenge 
with them, which was just 

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transitioning to real food and 
within two weeks, I felt 

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amazing. 
Like, I couldn't believe the 

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difference that had made to my 
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And I went home to my husband 
and I was like, we've got to try

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this new diet that's coming 
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It's called the paleo diet and 
he's like, oh great, another 

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diet, but he was very supportive
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We'll give it a try and he's 
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Thin never had any weight issues
and within a few weeks, he was 

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feeling fantastic as well. 
And that's when we made the 

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transition to switch over to 
real food for the entire family 

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and I went on to lose 30 kilos, 
which I'm not sure what that is 

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in pounds. 
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weight and clear up my digestive
issues have endless amounts of 

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energy and that's what really 
sparked my interest in 

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nutrition. 
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people were starting to come out
to Australia and I saw a 

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low-carb down under event which 
is similar to the low carb 

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Denver and those kind of events 
that you guys have and I saw 

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Jimmy more talking and he said 
if you're having like really 

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good success with low carb or 
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got to get out there and tell as
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that's when I kind of was like, 
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out. 
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possible. 
So we started a Meetup group and

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just from there, things grew. 
And I was looking around to 

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study. 
And in Australia, there's not 

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many choices, you can basically 
be a dietitian, which I did not 

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want to do because I don't 
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Paradigm or the Australian 
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similar to the American Standard
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And that's when I decided to 
study with the nutritional 

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Therapy Association and that's 
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Now I'm a nutritional therapy 
practitioner that believes in 

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real. 
Food as we all do. 

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But I specialize in applying 
nutritional therapy to low carb 

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ketogenic, paleo style diets, 
gacha gacha, that paints a good 

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picture. 
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struggling with the Hashimoto's 
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Bleak, did you for a moment 
think that it was a result of 

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all the the diet mistakes you've
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Or did you kind of like not put 
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I never put the two together 
until I actually tried real food

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myself and went, hey, This 
actually makes a difference when

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you just simply take out all 
this bread that I was living on,

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just to give me energy through 
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Like, I was constantly even 
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things like that, and just 
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that, you know, a little bit of 
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And then I'd fall asleep, 
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And so, I never connected that 
dots until I took all that out, 

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took all that noise, all that 
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I call it noise, took it all 
out, and then I could actually 

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see that, that was what was 
making the difference, not the 

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medication. 
And what what was the transition

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from paleo to more? 
The the key to approach that 

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you're on now with have that 
look like yes. 

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So I guess like I really love 
the philosophy of paleo it 

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really. 
The real food is where it's at 

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for me. 
I don't like especially when I'm

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doing ketogenic style diet. 
I don't actually put any dairy 

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and because I know it causes me 
issues and I don't use any 

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sweeteners or anything like that
so that might some people might 

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D mosquito friendly. 
I was just hearing how people 

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having even better success with 
Kido and I just thought, I'll 

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give that a try. 
I'd like to see if you can apply

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the Paleo principles with the 
ketogenic diet. 

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And once I started doing that, I
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energetic, even more better than
what I was before, and I was 

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like, wow, there's something 
really in this see if you like 

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Palio's definitely on the right 
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But when I came into the keto 
space, a kind of bypass the 

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whole paleo phaser, just went 
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I mean, the whole bunch of crap 
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in your words, how would you 
describe paleo? 

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And how have you seen that? 
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the past few years because bail 
has been popular for quite a 

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while but I feel like it's 
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Yeah I think the thing with 
paleo is that with the rise of 

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popularity that brought forward 
a lot of paleo style products 

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and because with paleo you don't
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You can still have some honey. 
If you want to you can still 

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have paleo treats I guess people
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be okay to have a paleo brownie 
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still just regulates a lot of 
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So they kind of transition over 
they feel initially great 

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because they've cleaned out that
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I was talking about so that's 
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They're starting to eat more, 
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and vegetables, and good fats. 
And their started to get that 

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into the body and the body is 
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it hasn't had a lot of that and 
then they kind of go back and 

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start looking that, you know, or
maybe I could have this brownie 

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if it's a paleo brownie and 
start, you know, adding more 

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honey back into things or maybe 
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stuff. 
And it's and then they kind of 

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relying on those. 
I guess they're like, you know, 

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copy Foods. 
I suppose, you know, like, you 

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know, we could call it paleo 
fried foods. 

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And so then what was happening, 
people's blood sugar was 

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starting to get quite a bit 
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So they'd have to eat more and 
all they'll seek out more sugar.

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And I can see that's kind of 
like key do. 

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Sometimes is going a little bit 
that way, but I think with the 

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tightening of the 
macronutrients, there's not as 

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much room to move. 
As the philosophy with paleo 

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where you can just kind of eat 
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people sometimes get a little 
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way. 
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like I mean, I own a keto food 
product, but it's interesting to

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see how like people have gotten 
a lot more relaxed with what 

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they consider keto macros as the
Advent of all these products is 

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kind of come to the market. 
I feel like with paleo, you have

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a lot more of a window there 
where you can just fluctuate the

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Has even more. 
And before, you know, it, you 

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get all these laboratory foods 
that are technically, yeah, 

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paleo or technically keto. 
But in reality, it's the 

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farthest thing from like a good 
quality and wholesome food. 

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Yeah, that's right. 
I mean, and you guys in America,

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wow. 
When I come over there, I like 

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good. 
Make my first stop at Whole 

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Foods. 
It's like, it's like a Paleo 

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candy store, right? 
Like them, I go crazy when I go 

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in there because you just can't 
get some of these Foods in 

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Australia and you just think, 
wow. 

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Look at all these options that 
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But it's very easy to be 
mistaken and go there and fill 

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up your trolley full of these 
pistol, kind of processed foods.

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I mean, I recognize we live in a
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I have two young children, so we
live in a world where, you know,

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convenience can it makes life 
easier because we are becoming 

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more and more busier. 
But it's those Foods, I would 

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say a still, you know, even 
though they're called paleo, I 

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would still say they're only 
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not all the time, kind of foods,
it's good to have. 

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Those options and good to have 
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eating that fresh food, then 
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When you first start out pal, 
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feeling that you felt before. 
Maybe might even get some weight

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dysregulated and like you were 
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practitioners love digestion. 
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to happen to you, then I would 
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those Foods first that you're 
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fresh meats and fats into. 
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know, the more wholesome that I 
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of those 80/20 analysis. 
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have a hundred percent Whole 
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capitalize on all that has to 
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fun. 
Tune things, little bit further,

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you can kind of tweak the 
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to really get things that old 
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you being in Australia, have you

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noticed that like the the 
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interest in the keto diet has 
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just now starting or what's 
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on the matter? 
I'd say it was still kind of in.

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peak because we've I think We're
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peed Evans here and he's a 
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and then we saw kind of low carb
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just really like hit it and 
people became quite interested 

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time of year because it's like 
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like that, you know, the 
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Forms, there's more questions 
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being interested, I guess 
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They've got the time, they're 
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January because that's that time
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interested in and have more time
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But yeah it's a it's a funny one
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Carnival starting to come 
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to get a bit more popular. 
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from what I've seen with game 
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many friends, I see on my 
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vegan at the moment. 
We could talk about that a 

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little bit. 
You want a diamond event? 

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Okay we can talk about that. 

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I've had this motherfucker. 
There's all these podcasts all 

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this information is it's just 
it's daunting like I don't even 

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know where to start but it is. 
See how much of a height that 

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that documentary built up? 
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me. 
How someone can watch one movie 

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and change their whole dietary 
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any research. 
So, friends of mine that might 

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not have had any interest in 
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one movie and can change their 
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come to me and say, ah, You 
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And I'm like, it's a hard 
debate, especially with friends.

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You don't want to, you know, 
like say to them. 

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I think I think you're being 
stupid and I want to slap you 

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across the face. 
You gonna have her educated 

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response to them. 
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you know I think people are 
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vegan because they're clearing 
out that noise I was talking 

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about, they're transitioning off
their processed foods, clearing 

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that some of those things. 
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feel great And then all of a 
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We're designed to eat both meat 
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Like what is our human body 
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What are we how we designed to 
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Like I think there needs to be 
more awareness about that rather

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than focusing on am I going to 
be strict vegan? 

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Am I going to be strict 
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Am I going to be strict paleo? 
Even though I double LP, do I 

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dabble in that world? 
I think we need to look at more 

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bio individually. 
What is best for us and our 

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bodies? 
Yeah, totally green. 

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I mean, if I had the assets on 
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where like, if you Faced with 
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for the rest of your life are 
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your life. 
I would probably leave you on 

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the side of all animal based, 
but I'm curious to see what you 

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as a nutritional therapist would
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Yeah, that's hard because I 
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knowing my body and how it works
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I would need the protein from 
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able to survive on just 
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know, I went on a retreat once 
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Raw vegan diet, kind of retreat,
even though I'm not sure why I 

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was there because I was 
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not a, I'm not against people 
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maybe I was there for the 
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that. 
And within two days, I couldn't 

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even go to the bathroom. 
My digestive system was just 

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terrible and we were only eating
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anything like that in it. 
So, I just know, I couldn't 

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survive, just on raw vegetables 
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Yeah, that's a tricky one. 
I can't imagine. 

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I mean, If you cook the 
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break down that cell wall and 
then harness some of the 

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nutrients. 
But if you're just eating 100%, 

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pure raw vegetables, I can't 
imagine that would be very good 

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for your digestive tract. 
That's right. 

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And I'm a, you know, busy mom, 
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protein, like, I can't survive. 
Like, I know during the day if 

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my protein or fat is lower than 
what it should be, I'm hungry. 

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And if you know, I've kind of 
like learned intuitively that I 

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need that protein to and fats to
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So I I don't consider myself a 
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imagination. 
Okay, I see that. 

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I'm kind of a risk because most 
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animal-based. 
But I'm curious to see like I 

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cannot I was talking about this 
this morning actually. 

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I can't pick any moment in time 
where I've had vegetables. 

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I mean E-Type and noticed a 
tangible benefit from them. 

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So could you kind of dive into 
How vegetables can be leveraged,

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you know, coming from someone 
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Like how can you use? 
Vegetables and what's, like some

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tangible things? 
You should be looking for to 

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notice an improvement. 
Yeah, so with our veggies, 

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especially for eating nutrient 
dense, veggies, we're going to 

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get all our vitamins and 
minerals from those, and I think

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where some of the good benefits 
of people eating them are going 

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to come in, is maybe not in. 
Something that you can kind of 

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see, like, you know, when we eat
a great steak, you've like, I've

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got heaps energy and I feel 
fantastic if we eat veggies with

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my not, like feel that. 
But that's going into the cells 

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of our body and giving us our 
vitamins and minerals, which we 

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need to thrive, you know, might 
build up our immune systems to 

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stop us from getting sick often,
all those kind of things and I 

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feel like, you know, carnivore 
is a great therapeutic diet, 

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when you're doing it properly. 
Like, as in, you're eating the 

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nutrient-dense awful and you're 
in a variety Meats. 

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You're not just eating steak 
every day. 

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Just the one type of meat like 
eating a variety so that you can

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get all the different nutrients.
Like, you know, a liver, all the

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vitamins and minerals that are 
in that, if you're in good 

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quality awful, but if you're 
just eating the steak every day,

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not going to get those. 
So that's where veggies can come

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in and be really important for 
you there. 

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I mean, they also do lots of 
other things, so, so we've 

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known, I think humans have 
always had this inherent 

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relationship with plants right 
throughout history, and we know 

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that certain plants can give 
certain benefits for us. 

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So, one thing, when I see my 
clients that are doing a 

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ketogenic diet is, they'll tend 
to stay away from foods, like 

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beetroot, right? 
Because be true can be higher in

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sugars and, you know, might be 
perceived kick someone out of 

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ketosis. 
So the beetroot is really, 

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really good for Question and 
fourth inning bile. 

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And so, when we're eating our 
good fats, we want to have thin 

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bile going through the body to 
to be able to digest those fats 

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better. 
So they actually work very 

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synergistically together and you
know there's other ways like if 

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you do want to sit down and eat 
a whole Beach and we're 

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basically I'd like to say we're 
not sitting down and eating a 

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whole be true, right? 
Because we're just going to eat 

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a little bit and a variety of 
that of that. 

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So yeah, I can definitely 
there's definitely Benefits to 

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having vegetables in that way 
because they're, you know, doing

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like bitter greens. 
They're going to be great for 

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your digestion as well. 
And yeah. 

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So getting a little of a bit of 
variety of those in but we're 

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not talking about sitting down 
and you know, eating like plates

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and plates of it. 
Basically, right, right. 

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Like I definitely you kind of 
steered towards the in the nose 

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to tail when it comes to eating 
meat like I trying to get all my

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organ Meats in, I try and, you 
know, Take like a desiccated 

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liver pills stuff like that. 
I do a lot of hunting as well, 

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so a lot of the meat that I'm 
getting. 

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I mean, it literally, every 
single day, I eat a piece of 

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meat that's Wildgame Meats. 
That's pretty high. 

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Nutrient density. 
If you're on top of that and 

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you're eating all the nutrient 
dense, organ Meats, nose and 

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tail style. 
Are you mean because those those

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have all been shown to have 
higher nutrient qualities than, 

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than most vegetables out there? 
Like I don't, I can't think of 

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any vegetables that are hiring 
nutrients there. 

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So it's like from a nutrient 
vitamin mineral standpoint if 

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you're following more of that 
nose to approach our you 

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necessarily missing out on 
anything. 

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If your digestion is going good.
No I think that most people in 

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the world that we circulated in 
that kind of bubble of nutrition

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are probably doing it the right 
way. 

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I think where people come 
unstuck is they're seeing they 

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look up to someone like yourself
or listen to your podcast and 

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they then say I'm kind of 
interested in this The give it a

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go and like I said, then just 
eat the one type of meat. 

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They're not eating that variety 
of different Meats, but if 

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you're metabolically flexible 
and you're eating awful 

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regularly, I can't see where 
there's any more benefit to 

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include some vegetables and less
your body's telling you, like 

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you should be tapped in and 
intuitive there if your body if 

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you're going past, some leafy 
greens, one day and your body is

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like, I'd really love to have a 
plate of those. 

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Then I say, that's your body 
giving you a nudge to to have. 

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Include some of those in your 
diet for that day and eating 

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more intuitively about what your
body needs is the best way to go

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about it because then you get 
that bio individualized kind of 

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diet that suits you best. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
I mean there's definitely these 

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will have a hankering for a big 
ol salad or something and I'll 

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have it and I won't think twice 
about and like I don't beat 

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myself up about it by any means.
What's your take on the like the

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greens like super foods and like
power foods that have like, 

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basically just Ultra 
concentrated amounts? 

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These micronutrients greens but 
like in a powder formula or they

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can just add it to water. 
Is that a pretty good way to 

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kind of hedge your bets so to 
speak? 

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I mean, if you feel like your 
body is lacking in some of those

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nutrients, it could possibly 
benefit be beneficial for some 

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people but like, why can't you 
just eat the green? 

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Like, I'm more go for a whole 
food wherever possible. 

447
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,900
So like, especially like when 
you think of adding lemon oils 

448
00:24:02,900 --> 00:24:05,400
to drinks or something like 
that, to get the It's of lemon. 

449
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,300
Why not just squeeze a lemon 
into your water? 

450
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,500
Like there's nothing wrong with 
our, our Whole Foods, I mean 

451
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:14,100
you're getting with the greens 
are getting a high dose of 

452
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,200
Greens in there, straight away, 
but does your body need all that

453
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,100
greens, all at once? 
I'm I think it's very bio 

454
00:24:20,100 --> 00:24:22,300
individualized to the person 
that's. 

455
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:25,700
Yeah, that makes sense. 
Let's them to digest and 

456
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:27,800
infrastructure because like you 
said, lying deep, he's are all 

457
00:24:27,808 --> 00:24:30,100
about the digestion. 
So what do you see? 

458
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:33,200
Like with all the interviews of 
helmet on the podcast, perform 

459
00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:38,000
one of the things that comes up.
Is people being deficient in 

460
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,300
hydrochloric acid? 
Basically and they're not really

461
00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:42,200
fully absorbing the nutrients of
taking in. 

462
00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:45,200
Do you? 
I just speak on that from I'll 

463
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,700
be Keen to get your take on 
then. 

464
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,500
Yeah. 
So I guess that's a big one. 

465
00:24:49,500 --> 00:24:53,700
We love to focus on because like
a lot of people are stressed 

466
00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,300
these days. 
And when we're stressed 

467
00:24:56,300 --> 00:25:01,600
digestion is off because it 
stops that process of the 

468
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:07,600
digestive Cascade working. 
And And so when we're stressed, 

469
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,800
then I'll like, you know, like 
I'm saying the digestive 

470
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,000
Cascades, not working. 
And then I'll hydrochloric acid 

471
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,800
production stops. 
And when our hydrochloric acid 

472
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,500
production, lowers then we're 
not able to break down that food

473
00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:21,600
in our in our gut properly and 
it's a big one. 

474
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,300
Because like, do you know, many 
people these days at aren't 

475
00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,000
stressed? 
Know. 

476
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:33,200
I'm certainly not one of them. 
Yeah, I like talked to many 

477
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:34,700
people these days. 
I just I can't. 

478
00:25:35,300 --> 00:25:37,300
I don't know anyone. 
That doesn't have some form of 

479
00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:41,300
stress and so if we don't, you 
know, if our hydrochloric acid 

480
00:25:41,300 --> 00:25:44,000
Productions like stopping, then 
we're not breaking down that 

481
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,400
food and then that's when that 
food can sit in the stomach 

482
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:52,000
undigested and that's when we 
can go like lead to further 

483
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,400
signs and symptoms like leaky 
gut, which is, you know, the 

484
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,300
foods not being absorbed like 
broken down properly and it's 

485
00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:01,400
crossing over and then we could 
get food, allergies and food 

486
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,700
sensitivities and all those kind
of things happening. 

487
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:08,900
So like highwomen Clark acid is 
a, is a big one because a lot of

488
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:11,600
people don't realize that 
they're lacking in it. 

489
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,400
They actually think they have to
too much of it because I get 

490
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,800
that acid feeling up in the, in 
the digestive tract. 

491
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,800
And so, when they have that, 
then they go and reach for some,

492
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000
I guess you have the same kind 
of one's over there, but like, 

493
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,000
Tums or rennie's or yeah, 
Mylanta, those kind of 

494
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:33,500
neutralizing. 
So they try to neutralize their 

495
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:34,900
stomach acid, which is even 
worse. 

496
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:39,000
Worse because then that's you 
know there's no acid being 

497
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,600
formed there so then we've got 
nothing that's able to come up 

498
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,300
and kill any pathogens or break 
down any food. 

499
00:26:45,100 --> 00:26:49,400
And so we're kind of just in 
this Cascade of digestive 

500
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,600
issues, just starting from there
and like it's we can supplement 

501
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,200
with hydrochloric acid and that 
can get the stomach acid working

502
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,500
again. 
And we can try things like apple

503
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,600
cider vinegar and water to get 
our digestive tract working. 

504
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,500
We can try bitter foods which is
Where veggies are good at coming

505
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:12,000
in because bitter, greens can 
stimulate that digestive process

506
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,600
or the big one though is like 
you can you can do all these 

507
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,200
things, but if you're not 
addressing stress in your life 

508
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:24,600
or how you perceive the stress, 
then you're going to continue to

509
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:31,100
cut that digestive process off, 
right at the very beginning and 

510
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,000
have that flow on effect through
the whole body. 

511
00:27:34,100 --> 00:27:36,600
That makes a lot of sense with 
regard to the apple cider 

512
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,200
vinegar. 
Do you find like is there any 

513
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,300
downside something with that? 
Like somebody's really deficient

514
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:48,300
in acid? 
Isn't isn't the the base of the 

515
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:50,300
vinegar going to cancel it out 
even more? 

516
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:55,300
Well I think that maybe they 
might if they're really 

517
00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,900
deficient the apple cider 
vinegar might cause more burning

518
00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:02,800
I guess that kind of feeling and
so they might just need to take 

519
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,800
a step back and just Try 
something really even slower, 

520
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:11,300
but what happens is that the 
vinegar all the acid in that, in

521
00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:13,300
there stimulates the stomach 
acid. 

522
00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:16,800
So just causes that bit of acid 
in their causes that asset 

523
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,000
account of I guess. 
I don't know the technical term 

524
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,800
but I kind of like can see it in
my head as you know, comes up 

525
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,500
and starts creating more acid so
that starts that kind of 

526
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,700
chemical process in the body. 
Gotcha. 

527
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:33,600
Gotcha, let's talk about 
nutrition for children. 

528
00:28:33,700 --> 00:28:35,900
Aaron because you'd mentioned 
that before we started recording

529
00:28:35,900 --> 00:28:37,500
and I'm really Keen to learn 
more about that. 

530
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:41,000
I have any kids yet, but 
crystals wanting something. 

531
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,600
So I want to be proactive in 
learned a thing or two about it.

532
00:28:44,100 --> 00:28:45,600
So what's your take on on 
nutrition? 

533
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,300
For kids, especially as it 
relates to the lower carb 

534
00:28:48,300 --> 00:28:51,400
approach and fueling them during
the early years? 

535
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,700
And they're really growing as 
rapidly? 

536
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,600
Definitely. 
So I have a nine year old and a 

537
00:28:57,608 --> 00:29:03,500
six year old. 
And when I was first going, 

538
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,200
We'll shoot approach. 
I looked at what I was feeding, 

539
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,700
my son. 
I was only a little baby then 

540
00:29:08,700 --> 00:29:14,400
and he was having like, apple 
juice and you know, cookies in 

541
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,100
his lunchbox and squeezy yogurts
with lots of sugar in it. 

542
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,100
And my mom had said to me once 
like he's got behavioral issues 

543
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,900
or something like that and he's 
only like a little toddler and I

544
00:29:24,900 --> 00:29:28,200
was like no that's you know it's
too early for any of this stuff 

545
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,400
to be happening. 
Well she's like you know when he

546
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,600
you know after lunch she seems 
to be going crazy. 

547
00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:36,600
Z and running around. 
And once I started becoming more

548
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,100
and powered and understanding 
what was happening to me, I 

549
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,200
looked at his food and then was 
like, yeah, maybe she's got a 

550
00:29:43,208 --> 00:29:46,100
point there, he's just eating 
pure sugar all day. 

551
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:51,100
So I really need to do something
about that and I found, you 

552
00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:53,800
know, what worked best for us 
was to actually transition him. 

553
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,900
If we had a went straight in 
there and just took the apple 

554
00:29:55,900 --> 00:29:59,700
juice away from him, which he 
was having a glass or two a day,

555
00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:04,500
he would probably have just 
completely, you know, I'm really

556
00:30:04,500 --> 00:30:06,100
upset and would have been 
traumatic for all of us. 

557
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,700
So what we did was we started 
replacing just a little bit of 

558
00:30:09,700 --> 00:30:12,200
that. 
Apple juice, like watering it 

559
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,500
down, just a little bit more and
more until we kind of got rid of

560
00:30:15,500 --> 00:30:16,700
it. 
We give him a little bit of 

561
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,700
homemade kombucha just and 
watered that down just so that 

562
00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:22,200
it was still that similar kind 
of color. 

563
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,200
Like apple juice, we got rid of 
his squeezy yogurts and started 

564
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,500
giving full fat Greek yogurt and
realize that was making a really

565
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:32,700
good difference with him as 
well. 

566
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,100
And Then by the time, my 
daughter came along, I was 

567
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:42,200
already eating real food paleo 
for quite a while then and she 

568
00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:46,400
basically just came out of the, 
you know, the womb just, you 

569
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:51,100
know, running. 
Like, she was super, could keep 

570
00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,500
that anything like she was the 
type of child that if you, like,

571
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,100
if she was sitting on my lap, 
she would just reach out and 

572
00:30:57,100 --> 00:30:58,400
eat. 
Whatever was on your plate, 

573
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,500
would never question any foods. 
We were having and would grab 

574
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,900
like a sauerkraut. 
Jar and drink the juice out of 

575
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:09,800
it and I thought this is 
amazing, like, this is the 

576
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,700
difference between, you know, a 
a chart. 

577
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:17,200
Like my son still kind of has 
fussy eating issues because he 

578
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,000
he I guess he's had the taste of
the other food before where she 

579
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,800
never did. 
And then, we throw School into 

580
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,200
the mix. 
And one school started, 

581
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,500
everything started changing, and
you don't seem to have as much 

582
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,300
control over. 
What you're feeding them when 

583
00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:36,600
they're away from you and that 
Cause a lot of issues as well 

584
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,400
because now they're like, well, 
someone has this in their lunch 

585
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,100
box and can we get it when 
you're going through the 

586
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:44,800
supermarket? 
All that kind of stuff. 

587
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:50,600
So, when I was looking at the 
big picture, I just thought that

588
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,300
the kids eat what we eat. 
I don't make any different meals

589
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,900
at dinner time. 
They might have actually a 

590
00:31:57,900 --> 00:32:02,000
little bit more carbohydrates 
and what we do because they're 

591
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,100
able to run and Burn It Off. 
But they're still not having any

592
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:08,700
processed carbohydrates and when
we do their lunchbox, they're 

593
00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:11,100
not having sandwiches and things
like that in it. 

594
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,900
Like the other kids are they 
might just, in fact, my son 

595
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:18,400
loves taking some prosciutto and
some olives and a boiled egg in,

596
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,000
those kind of things in his 
lunch box. 

597
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,700
So he's basically having what 
his friends are having on 

598
00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,800
sandwiches, but without the 
bread and I don't give them a 

599
00:32:26,808 --> 00:32:31,400
dietary philosophy as such other
than their eating nutrient dense

600
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,100
Whole Foods, we don't call it 
Kito paleo, low carb, or 

601
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,300
anything like that. 
They're just eating foods that 

602
00:32:38,300 --> 00:32:40,600
are going to feel their body to 
give them the best energy. 

603
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,900
Do you ever like have them go to
like a birthday party or 

604
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:46,300
something with friends and be 
like birthday cake there and 

605
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:47,800
they just feel terrible 
afterwards. 

606
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:51,800
Oh yes, so I love telling this 
story. 

607
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,100
I remember being at a Christmas 
party and all of the food was 

608
00:32:56,100 --> 00:33:00,600
just piled out on tables and I 
always bring a plate wherever I 

609
00:33:00,608 --> 00:33:02,800
go. 
So I know that there's going to 

610
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,100
be food there that the family 
can. 

611
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,600
H but my son, he he was just 
like, this is like a, you know, 

612
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:15,300
a smorgasbord of all these foods
and I looked over and I saw this

613
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:19,200
child sitting under a table 
shoving, cupcakes into his 

614
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,400
mouth, one after the other, and 
I was like, oh my gosh, like, 

615
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:27,400
what's happening here? 
And I didn't say anything at the

616
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,600
time, even though, like, you 
know, personally I was kind of 

617
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600
like, oh my gosh, if I ruined 
this child and can he not 

618
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,800
control himself around food? 
It, is it that my dietary issues

619
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:39,300
imposed on him or is it just 
because he's being given free 

620
00:33:39,300 --> 00:33:41,500
range? 
He's, you know, learning to make

621
00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:43,100
his own choices. 
You know, parents kind of go 

622
00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:47,200
through all this kind of 
conflict all the time and he 

623
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,400
came up to me and he said, oh, 
mum, I feel really sick and I 

624
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,600
said, what do you think caused 
that, what's giving you the pain

625
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,300
in the stomach? 
And he said, I think it's 

626
00:33:58,300 --> 00:34:01,500
because I ate all this food and 
I said well what do you think 

627
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:04,500
you'll do next time? 
And he said I probably State the

628
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:07,000
food you bring because it 
doesn't make me feel this way 

629
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:12,000
and and I'm like, good, that's I
think that in itself was the 

630
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,300
best less than you could ever 
give. 

631
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:14,900
Rather than I could have went up
to him. 

632
00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,500
I could have pulled him out from
under the table and taking all 

633
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:20,500
that food off him and you know, 
told him, you know, get rid of 

634
00:34:20,507 --> 00:34:23,199
that out of your mouth or 
whatever, but I don't think that

635
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,199
would have worked. 
I think, you know, that might 

636
00:34:26,207 --> 00:34:28,900
have made even more rebellious 
or, you know, made of made him 

637
00:34:28,900 --> 00:34:31,600
want to, you know, not 
understand. 

638
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:36,199
But he actually felt it and And 
we talked about it and I think 

639
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,000
that was the best lesson. 
Yeah, I totally agree. 

640
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,199
I feel like that's one of the 
things that the kids are going 

641
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:44,199
to have to kind of learn on 
their own otherwise I mean you 

642
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,699
can definitely lead by example, 
but at some point, they're going

643
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:48,800
to get experiments on. 
They're going to have to know, 

644
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,000
you know, by their own doing how
it's going to make them feel. 

645
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,699
But within meeting like the, the
lower car cuz I'm sure they're 

646
00:34:55,699 --> 00:34:58,000
eating lower carbs relative to 
their peers. 

647
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,200
Yeah. 
Has there been any issue 

648
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,400
whatsoever with their like 
growth and development? 

649
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:06,700
I can't imagine there would be 
No, I'd like I actually am very 

650
00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:11,000
rarely get sick. 
You know, kids come home around 

651
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,900
cold and flu season and they're 
like, you know, like all their 

652
00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:16,500
friends are constantly sick with
runny noses and things like 

653
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:20,000
that, and my children, very 
rarely get sick at all. 

654
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,300
They've got really great energy 
levels. 

655
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:26,300
Yeah, I can't see that there's 
been any problem with, you know,

656
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,500
and it's always the thing that I
say because we're just feeding 

657
00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,700
them real food, right? 
We're just feeding them 

658
00:35:31,100 --> 00:35:34,000
unprocessed meats and vegetables
and healthy. 

659
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,000
Fats. 
Like how can you say that? 

660
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,100
That is the, that is wrong 
nutrition to feed a child. 

661
00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:43,400
Like I can't I find it crazy 
that people would even think 

662
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,000
that. 
Yeah, it's honestly 

663
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,100
mind-boggling like, I've heard 
stories of people, you know, 

664
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,700
having the police called on it 
because they've publicly 

665
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:52,700
admitted that they're not 
feeding their kids, a bunch of 

666
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,100
processed carbs and people think
that they're malnourished and 

667
00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:59,300
the children and I'm like how 
backwards are we when we think 

668
00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:03,000
the norm is to just give them 
Oreos and gogurts and with other

669
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,500
stuff that you see in the The 
the supermarket said of the 

670
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:10,700
farthest thing from actual food.
I know, it's ridiculous to think

671
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:16,300
that and I guess I'm really 
lucky where I live. 

672
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,900
We have a lot of families around
us that are able to afford good 

673
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:24,600
foods. 
And so when we go to school and 

674
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,600
we bring plates quite often, the
mums will come up to me because 

675
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,900
they know I, you know, I'm a 
nutritional therapy practitioner

676
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,400
and I'm all about real food. 
And they've seen me do events 

677
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
and stuff around. 
The local area, they'll ask me, 

678
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,700
you know, what did you bring? 
How do you make that? 

679
00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:42,500
Can I have the recipe? 
And the other thing I do is I go

680
00:36:42,500 --> 00:36:48,000
into my children's classroom 
once every term or so and when 

681
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,300
we can and just do some cooking 
with the children. 

682
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,500
So I'll go in there and I'll 
like it's summer here and we're 

683
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:59,100
talking about ice cream and how,
you know, and these are like, 

684
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:00,700
we've talking to like grade one 
here. 

685
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:03,600
Like how does ice cream make you
feel when you eat one? 

686
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,000
Never. 
Like good and then I'm like, and

687
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:09,700
then afterwards they're like, 
oh, I got a little bit crazy and

688
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,800
I'm like, what is he Mom? 
And Dad saying they're like sit 

689
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:15,400
down settle down and I'm like, 
do you know what's in ice cream 

690
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,900
and there? 
And kids are like really smart, 

691
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:19,100
they're like sugar and I'm like 
yeah. 

692
00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,400
And you know why we don't eat 
too much sugar and then they 

693
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:25,100
tell me and I was like well 
today I brought in a healthier 

694
00:37:25,100 --> 00:37:28,800
version of how to make ice cream
and this one has just coconut 

695
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,500
milk in it and frozen berries 
who wants to try it and they 

696
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:34,900
will try it now. 
Like I've never Anything like 

697
00:37:34,900 --> 00:37:36,900
this before. 
This is so good and someone's 

698
00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,600
like, I like this better than 
ice cream. 

699
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,100
And, you know, it's like a 
really good learning environment

700
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:45,100
and I think that just getting 
out into the community and doing

701
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:48,800
that is going to change people's
perceptions over like a, my mail

702
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,700
nourishing my children because I
didn't feed them and ice cream. 

703
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,200
No. 
Yeah. 

704
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,900
That's so huge. 
I mean, there's, there's so much

705
00:37:56,900 --> 00:38:01,800
be said for the The Taste and 
how your taste changes based off

706
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,800
of what you're putting in. 
And like if you're giving the 

707
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,100
kids quality Wholesome foods 
from the front end, then they'll

708
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:10,200
know going into it. 
What tastes good? 

709
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,200
It would taste bad. 
I mean my palate has changed 

710
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,100
like 180 degrees since I got off
all the processed foods and I 

711
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:17,500
mean kids like said they're 
smart. 

712
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:19,800
They can recognize that as well 
and they recognize that they 

713
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,400
feel good if they're out playing
and you know they can't keep up 

714
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,300
with the other kids because 
their stomach hurts like nobody 

715
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,500
wants then. 
Yeah that's right. 

716
00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:30,000
And I so agree with you like I 
think my children definitely 

717
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,500
have a different palette and so 
when they might see Those Foods 

718
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,500
because we're conditioned, you 
know, like Prime you know from 

719
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,600
our primitive days to seek out 
these sweet foods. 

720
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,700
I can see my children zeroing in
on these Foods because it's 

721
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:47,700
their Primal Instinct, but then 
they might eat one or two bites 

722
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:50,800
and they're like, nah, I'm done.
I can't have any more of that. 

723
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,800
So I think that's kind of the 
best way for them to learn is, 

724
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,800
you know, like you were saying 
like lead by example at home 

725
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,900
because that's a really good 
place to do that and give them 

726
00:39:02,900 --> 00:39:06,700
their meals. 
Feels like we always have dinner

727
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:09,100
together. 
It's always we sit down. 

728
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:12,600
We eat a nutrient dense food or 
together. 

729
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,400
That's the one meal that I know 
is going to set them upright and

730
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,100
then same again with breakfast. 
And then what they do through 

731
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:23,500
the day, really depends on their
their choices. 

732
00:39:23,500 --> 00:39:26,300
I give them, you know, a set 
amount of food because we're 

733
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:31,000
lucky we can take our lunches to
school here and then but it's 

734
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,500
out of my control. 
I can only hope that they have 

735
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,200
learned. 
Listened to the example that I'm

736
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,500
sitting here at home for them. 
I love it. 

737
00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:40,000
I love it. 
I've got a tricky one for you. 

738
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,800
What about when they go to, 
like, spend time with 

739
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,300
grandparents or relatives? 
That don't really see eye-to-eye

740
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:48,900
with her with you regarding 
nutrition. 

741
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:50,700
They just like let them eat 
whatever. 

742
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,200
And then like, how do you how do
you moderate that? 

743
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:57,400
Like me personally, I feel like 
if I let my kids my future kids,

744
00:39:57,700 --> 00:40:00,400
stay with my parents, for 
instance, and my dad's all about

745
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,400
these cinnamon rolls, he makes 
it feel like I would just go 

746
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,000
ballistic. 
If I know, He's like forcing 

747
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,200
these kids, how to eat a bunch 
of carbs and sugars and stuff. 

748
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,000
Like how do you handle that? 
Yeah, so I know my parents like 

749
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:15,800
taking my children to McDonald's
because I seem to deprive my 

750
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,600
children of that childhood 
experience. 

751
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:22,000
But I like to kind of point out 
that you know that childhood 

752
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:26,500
experience didn't really helped 
me a lot because I was like very

753
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:28,400
tired and sick as a job as I 
said earlier. 

754
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:34,600
But I think that what I do is 
like so my children It's summer 

755
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,200
vacation. 
Here we just started it 

756
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:39,400
yesterday. 
I rang my mom that the children 

757
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,000
are going down there for five 
days with them. 

758
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:46,600
And I said to my mom, I'm doing 
a fruit and veg order at the 

759
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,200
moment, can I order you some 
things? 

760
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:53,900
And so I went through on the 
phone with her and we went 

761
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:55,400
through and picked. 
I want some letters. 

762
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,200
You want. 
Some Tomatoes you want some 

763
00:40:57,900 --> 00:40:59,500
cucumbers. 
Okay great. 

764
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,200
I've got to do a meat order next
soon. 

765
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,800
Do you want me to grab some meat
for you while I'm doing it? 

766
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,900
It. 
So basically, I'm taking all the

767
00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:11,800
food down to my mom's house and 
my mum luckily, you know, most 

768
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,400
of our diet was just a dinner. 
Food was always just like steak 

769
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:18,300
and veg, probably just missing 
the healthy fats of it. 

770
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:24,000
So I just take the food down to 
my mum and Dad's, and then 

771
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,800
she'll just cook with the food 
that's there because she doesn't

772
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,200
like any food wastage. 
And then they might have the 

773
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:31,600
occasional treat with the kids, 
where they might do pizza one 

774
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,500
night. 
They might do McDonald's, but 

775
00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,000
they're not. 
Bring it every day. 

776
00:41:36,500 --> 00:41:40,500
And I know that that's the best 
that we can do in that 

777
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:45,200
situation. 
And sometimes you've just for 

778
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,800
the sake of family, I guess 
you've got to let go just a 

779
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,100
little bit, like, you don't have
to let go of your philosophy, 

780
00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:54,700
and your whole way of living, 
but in the big scheme of things,

781
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,500
I personally feel if it's 
better, if it's okay for them to

782
00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:03,600
have it every now and then when 
they go down there, but not all 

783
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,600
the time. 
Time every day. 

784
00:42:05,100 --> 00:42:07,200
Yeah, it's really good. 
Really good protocol and ever 

785
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,500
heard the hurting explain, like 
that. 

786
00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:11,400
That makes total sense because 
I'm, I'm folks are saying why 

787
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:12,900
they don't like to see if we go 
to waste. 

788
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,000
So if I'm providing food I mean 
they're going to be incentivized

789
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:20,000
to make sure it gets eaten. 
Yeah that's right and I mean if 

790
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,600
they're filling your children up
with the fruit and veg that 

791
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:24,400
you've brought their because I 
don't want it to go to waste and

792
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:25,800
your Dad gives them one little 
cinnamon. 

793
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,100
Roll the end there but they 
probably going to find that. 

794
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:30,600
They're pretty full anyway and 
they're not going to sit there 

795
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,900
and eat the whole lot the whole 
time. 

796
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:36,100
And I think it's also So 
important to recognize that 

797
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:40,800
there are family traditions and 
food is a great way of 

798
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,500
connecting people and Community 
together and if your dad's way 

799
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,600
of connecting with his future, 
grandchildren is to offer them a

800
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,700
cinnamon roll and only have it. 
The only occasional one or two 

801
00:42:51,700 --> 00:42:54,800
times, they go down there, 
there's more to that than just 

802
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,800
the food. 
Like I know a lot of people 

803
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,600
listening that are very dogmatic
about their diet. 

804
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,400
Philosophy is good, be like, oh 
my God, she's just saying eat 

805
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:06,200
the cinnamon roll but I feel 
like Like we can that can cause 

806
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,900
stress in itself that can cause 
issues in the body when that 

807
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:14,400
stress process starts up. 
So if it means that it's a good 

808
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,500
way that your your dad in their 
future grandchild are going to 

809
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:21,100
connect together and it's only 
on the occasion, I think, like 

810
00:43:21,100 --> 00:43:23,600
let it go, it's a good bonding 
experience for them. 

811
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:25,800
That's true and definitely do 
agree. 

812
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:30,800
It's just crazy that that food 
could have such a, you know, 

813
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:36,500
sentimental effect like that. 
That to me is Yeah, I think but 

814
00:43:36,500 --> 00:43:40,000
it's always being that way. 
I thing like it and it's not so 

815
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,000
much about the food either. 
Really it is that kind of coming

816
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,700
together and being together and 
spending time together, I think 

817
00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:51,000
just food is that Common Thread 
that binds people together and 

818
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,400
maybe you can start New 
Traditions that don't involve 

819
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:57,100
food. 
Maybe, you know, like with 

820
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:01,600
Christmas coming up, start a 
tradition where instead of, you 

821
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,800
know, eating all the food and 
water. 

822
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:07,200
You know, people still eat all 
the food but then maybe part of 

823
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,000
that tradition is to then go 
around the block for a walk 

824
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,700
afterwards to kind of get the 
body moving rather than going 

825
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,200
and having an app. 
Like a lot of people do after 

826
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:21,400
Christmas lunch and I guess, you
know, in America it's it's 

827
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:23,800
winter time. 
So maybe in not might not be 

828
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,300
able to get out for a walk. 
But I know in Australia like 

829
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:28,800
it's very common to go out and 
have a game of Cricket in the 

830
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,300
backyard straight after 
Christmas lunch. 

831
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:33,800
So, we're quite active because 
it's summer. 

832
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,000
Yeah, but maybe there's another 
tradition, maybe instead of 

833
00:44:37,008 --> 00:44:41,000
sitting around and eating all 
the chocolates and foods you can

834
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,700
read, there's a special story 
that you always read together or

835
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:45,700
there's a no, my husband's 
family. 

836
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:48,900
There's a, there's a really 
funny movie that's an old kind 

837
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:51,800
of black-and-white movie that 
they always put on after 

838
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,800
Christmas lunch. 
That is more about everyone 

839
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,800
sitting around together and 
having that laughs, and that 

840
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,800
tradition rather than the food 
tradition. 

841
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,200
That's true. 
It's a good point. 

842
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,700
We don't want from like, but we 
do go split firewood. 

843
00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:04,800
So that's a good. 
Vehicle activity. 

844
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,000
So speaking of the kid nutrition
what like Marine Burleson that 

845
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,200
has kids and they kind of want 
them to wean them off or at 

846
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:17,500
least replace something that is 
like a typical kid favorite. 

847
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,100
What's one thing that you been 
preparing over the years for 

848
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:24,100
your kids and that is just like 
a hundred percent better than 

849
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,000
what's, what's the alternative? 
And that your kids have really 

850
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,600
enjoyed eating? 
Oh yeah. 

851
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,500
So there's so many foods like 
that when I think about the 

852
00:45:33,500 --> 00:45:37,700
lunch, Says I know and I she 
might be the same in America. 

853
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:40,700
Like I was talking before, a lot
of people have those squeeze 

854
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:44,200
kind of yogurts. 
It's like a it's very easy for 

855
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,000
kids just to suck one of those 
down but they're not actually 

856
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,200
even starting their digestive 
process by doing that. 

857
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,600
They're basically Mo's will be 
having a drink and then it's 

858
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,300
highly. 
It's full of like, you can get 

859
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,100
those free ones. 
I can get yogurt ones and 

860
00:45:56,100 --> 00:45:58,000
they're just full of sugar 
basically. 

861
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:03,200
So you can buy pouches now that 
are empty. 

862
00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:07,200
You can fill them up with 
whatever you want inside of 

863
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,100
those, but even better. 
I find is just to buy the whole 

864
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,700
straight like, Greek yogurt, 
full fat, Greek yogurt, or 

865
00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:20,000
coconut yogurt. 
If you're not doing Dairy and 

866
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,300
buy some frozen berries, some 
fresh like some sorry, frozen 

867
00:46:24,300 --> 00:46:27,700
organic, berries or some fresh 
berries, and just sprinkle a 

868
00:46:27,707 --> 00:46:32,100
little bit of those on top, and 
put some cacao nibs on top of 

869
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:34,700
that. 
And my kids, Like they like the 

870
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:38,600
crunch of the cacao nibs and 
then they like the cooling of 

871
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,200
the yogurt and the, and the 
berries and it gives them that 

872
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,800
little sweet taste with the 
berries. 

873
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,300
And that's just a really simple 
like that, could be an afternoon

874
00:46:48,300 --> 00:46:50,500
tea that could be in the lunch 
box. 

875
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:54,200
That could be a dessert. 
And I just think that that's 

876
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,300
just something that my kids 
really like, is that one? 

877
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,800
I love it. 
I love it. 

878
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,200
Might be taking notes Here for 
when, when I do veneer the kids,

879
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:07,000
Kids would be well fed and well 
educated. 

880
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:07,800
Oh, yeah. 
Oh yeah. 

881
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,300
Well, we'll definitely have meet
at the dinner table for sure, 

882
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,400
won't be any em. 
It won't be a vegan based home. 

883
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,600
I don't think by any means. 
That's right. 

884
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,400
I and my babies love to chew on 
like lamb chops, you know? 

885
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,400
And they just have the the lamb 
bone or whenever we were having 

886
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,500
a roast dinner. 
They would get the bone out of 

887
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,200
the roast and just chew on that.
That's like the best teething 

888
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:31,400
ring. 
You can have you don't need 

889
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,700
those breadsticks. 
Those really hard disk. 

890
00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:36,900
Inbred things I chew on, we call
them rusks. 

891
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:39,900
I don't know what you call them,
but they would just love the 

892
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:42,100
bone off the meat and just chew 
on that. 

893
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:44,900
And that was really great for 
teething yam you think about, 

894
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,800
you getting, like all the 
collagen and all the, you know, 

895
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,800
all of that whistle that's going
to be good for, you know, joints

896
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,500
Health, everything. 
I feel like I feel very blessed 

897
00:47:55,500 --> 00:47:58,400
and fortunate because I grew up 
in an environment where we had 

898
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,700
land to hunt, and I was just 
raised knowing where my food 

899
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:05,200
came from that, we've always, 
Had we used to have cattle, we 

900
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,100
had chickens, we have lamb. 
So like I would see my dad, you 

901
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:12,600
know, as a young kid, I would 
see my dad, you know, go put 

902
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,000
your a deer or a lamb. 
And then a few hours later, I 

903
00:48:17,008 --> 00:48:20,100
had that lamb or deer on my on 
my plate and I feel like a lot 

904
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,700
of kids are just removed from 
that to equation these days. 

905
00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:25,900
And there's this massive 
disconnect but that's what I 

906
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,900
think we should all go back to. 
Well I so agree with you and 

907
00:48:29,900 --> 00:48:33,700
wherever we can we always talk 
to our children about where the 

908
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:37,100
You're just coming from. 
I think that's really important.

909
00:48:37,100 --> 00:48:40,200
I think when you're looking at 
transitioning, your children 

910
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,400
over number one have dinner 
together, like just start with 

911
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:48,600
one meal, turn off all the 
devices, all of your, any noise,

912
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:52,100
anything like that, sit down and
have that proper family meal. 

913
00:48:52,100 --> 00:48:55,000
Like, we used to probably do as 
children and a lot of people 

914
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:56,500
these days are eating on the 
Run. 

915
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,100
Just make that one meal that 
time when the whole family is 

916
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:03,300
there that you can all come 
together and then talk about 

917
00:49:03,300 --> 00:49:08,200
where that Food is coming from. 
So we have a local farmer not 

918
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,200
far from us. 
We've been out to his property 

919
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,500
and we've been camping out there
and we stayed on the property, 

920
00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:17,300
we showed the kids where the 
food was coming from when we eat

921
00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:19,500
this beautiful meat. 
This is where it comes from. 

922
00:49:20,100 --> 00:49:22,500
And unfortunately, at the 
moment, most of Australia is in 

923
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:25,500
severe, drought. 
And even though our farmer is a 

924
00:49:25,508 --> 00:49:28,800
regenerative farmer, he's done, 
they've done quite well until 

925
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,400
now the drought has just gotten 
them. 

926
00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:35,400
And I was showing the children, 
how the water In the dam where 

927
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,100
we used to go swimming or 
camping is totally dry. 

928
00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:41,600
Now just looks like rocks and 
how they're having to look at 

929
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:45,600
other measures to kind of 
drought-proof their property and

930
00:49:45,700 --> 00:49:48,500
it's costing a lot of money and 
it's putting a lot of farmers 

931
00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:52,600
out of business and I showed the
children this and one thing they

932
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:56,500
asked, which to me is just 
absolutely amazing was whether 

933
00:49:56,500 --> 00:49:59,700
they could donate part of their 
Christmas present money to the 

934
00:49:59,700 --> 00:50:02,400
farmer to help him out during 
this time. 

935
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,900
And I just thought that's so 
Amazing that these kids 

936
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,500
understand where their food is 
coming from and how important it

937
00:50:09,500 --> 00:50:12,800
is for us that they would donate
some money from their Christmas 

938
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:16,300
presents to the farmer to help 
their food out basically where 

939
00:50:16,300 --> 00:50:18,300
their food comes from. 
So that's huge. 

940
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,500
Thank you, judge. 
Yeah, I'm I'm still Blown Away 

941
00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:23,700
by how amazing the children were
about that. 

942
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,600
And I just think that if we have
just talked to our children more

943
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,300
about where the food was coming 
from a lot more children and 

944
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:33,700
families would be more empowered
and and want to help our Farmers

945
00:50:33,700 --> 00:50:35,400
out because that's Where our 
food is coming from? 

946
00:50:35,900 --> 00:50:38,900
Well, it's interesting because I
feel like we're in this weird 

947
00:50:38,900 --> 00:50:43,700
generational Gap right now. 
Like I'm I'm 28 and I'm, I grew 

948
00:50:43,700 --> 00:50:45,600
up doing that kind of stuff. 
I do that kind of stuff. 

949
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:48,700
Today, we have a family farm 
that's been in my family for 

950
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:52,700
five generations now. 
But most of my peers have never 

951
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:55,700
really been exposed to that. 
So all of my friends that are 

952
00:50:55,700 --> 00:50:58,700
now having kids, you know, 
they're raising these kids 

953
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:00,900
having. 
No, inkling of an idea, what 

954
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:04,800
that style of living was like 
and, you know, it's not The kids

955
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,000
fault. 
Obviously, it's not even the 

956
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,900
parents fault because they just 
weren't exposed to it. 

957
00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:12,800
But you have all these cartoon 
shows and movies that portray 

958
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,200
animals, as you know, basically 
human characters with 

959
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,000
personalities, they can talk and
and there's nothing against 

960
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,100
that. 
But it basically paints this 

961
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:25,300
picture to the children that 
these animals are, you know, 

962
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,500
totally fine. 
They're just like a friend and 

963
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:31,500
they don't, that's just totally 
dissociates where the food comes

964
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:34,200
from. 
If like that is a generational 

965
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:37,000
Little issue but I think it's 
more prominent now than it's 

966
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:41,400
ever been before, all right. 
Yeah, I so agree and because we 

967
00:51:41,408 --> 00:51:45,200
have so much supermarkets and 
people, you know, like people in

968
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,400
our Circle know that we go to 
the farmers markets and we 

969
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,300
support our Farmers, but the 
average person, they just see 

970
00:51:50,300 --> 00:51:53,200
the large Supermarket. 
It's convenient, they go there, 

971
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,300
their children, think that's 
where food comes from? 

972
00:51:56,700 --> 00:51:59,200
Like, they don't associate that 
back to a farm. 

973
00:51:59,300 --> 00:52:02,500
There's not a lot of Education 
out there saying actually, this 

974
00:52:02,500 --> 00:52:06,400
food in here was brought. 
On a truck and that truck came 

975
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,000
from a warehouse and then 
another truck to that far, you 

976
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:14,100
know, came from the farm, and 
then just even thinking about 

977
00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:16,900
that, like, how many times that 
food is being handled just to 

978
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:19,500
get to that Supermarket? 
Let's cut all of that out. 

979
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:22,200
Go and visit our farmer, and 
just get the food straight from 

980
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,500
there. 
We don't need all this in 

981
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:26,500
between stuff. 
Totally, you'll get a lot of 

982
00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:28,300
meats from kangaroo there, 
right? 

983
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:33,500
Yeah, we'll kangaroos quite 
overpopulated here. 

984
00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:36,000
So a lot of people being turning
to the kangaroo meat. 

985
00:52:36,300 --> 00:52:38,600
It's actually it's quite 
nutrient dense but it doesn't 

986
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,600
have a lot of fat on it. 
So it's quite because, you know,

987
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,700
if you think of a kangaroo, 
they're like very active and 

988
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:46,900
bouncing around the quite lean. 
So there's not a lot of actual 

989
00:52:46,900 --> 00:52:50,400
fatty meat on a kangaroo. 
Is that little taste like a 

990
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,900
season for Kangaroo? 
Is it just all done through 

991
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:54,600
ranching like farming and 
ranching practices? 

992
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,000
I mean, how is that? 
Regular it? 

993
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,700
Just it's wild caught. 
I'd I don't know of any actual 

994
00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:05,100
people farming, the kangaroos, I
think they're just wild and they

995
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,500
go out and they shoot them and 
then they process that the meat 

996
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:11,100
down for that. 
I don't believe there's any 

997
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,400
farming because if they're just 
like they're just kind of 

998
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,700
everywhere. 
So a not not in the cities 

999
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:20,000
obviously but out in the country
they kind of just all around. 

1000
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,600
So they're very easy to come by.
So it's kind of like deer or 

1001
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:27,300
like wild boar here. 
First, you would love it. 

1002
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:28,900
You'd go hunting. 
You can go out. 

1003
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:31,300
They call it reshooting 
reasoning. 

1004
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,300
You can go out reshooting, but 
some farmers. 

1005
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:40,600
And yeah, and then they use the 
Skins, obviously, to the third 

1006
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,200
to make things out of like dear.
It's the same kind of process. 

1007
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,500
Yeah, well that's good. 
I would imagine that. 

1008
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,700
That's a pretty nutrient-dense 
meat, that's kind of in Surplus 

1009
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,300
there. 
So that'd be a good good Outlet 

1010
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:54,500
to get some quality protein in 
very high in protein. 

1011
00:53:54,500 --> 00:53:58,200
Definitely, and I guess, you 
know, Australians a bit spoiled 

1012
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,600
though because we do have 
Variety of lightweight lamb is 

1013
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:04,800
easy to come by and we do have a
lot of cattle farming and and 

1014
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:09,000
poultry and stuff like that. 
So I have I feel like a lot of 

1015
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,100
people actually in Australia 
feed their pets kangaroo meat, 

1016
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:16,500
rather than eating it as well. 
It's not like it's not like 

1017
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:19,100
something you just sit down and 
say I'm having kangaroo tonight.

1018
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:22,600
I mean, is it coming? 
Yeah, it's becoming more popular

1019
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:24,400
but it's definitely something 
that I. 

1020
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,300
Yeah, I feed my dog that so 
gotcha. 

1021
00:54:27,300 --> 00:54:32,300
Gotcha, yo a bunch of like 
Quality grass fed beef that 

1022
00:54:32,300 --> 00:54:33,600
especially in New Zealand, 
right? 

1023
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:37,600
Yeah, well over New Zealand. 
That's practically all grass 

1024
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,800
over there or grass-fed, which 
is, which is great. 

1025
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:43,300
They get a lot more rainfall 
than us, and it's more green 

1026
00:54:43,300 --> 00:54:46,100
over there. 
So there'll am from New Zealand 

1027
00:54:46,100 --> 00:54:49,900
is always grass-fed. 
But I feel like, you know, in 

1028
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:53,200
Australia, we do have feedlots 
and stuff, but not as much as 

1029
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:57,500
you guys do and we do have a lot
more land for cattle just to be 

1030
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:00,500
kind of grazing ground. 
So a lot of I'm cattle, we get 

1031
00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:06,400
is already and cheap are already
a grass-fed basically because 

1032
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,100
they're just living on the land 
like that. 

1033
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,200
Gotcha, gotcha. 
Very interesting about the make 

1034
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:15,800
a trip out there for sure when 
is the low-carb and under, it's 

1035
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,200
usually in October each year. 
So you should definitely come 

1036
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,800
out at that time of year because
it's nice here in Australia. 

1037
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:24,300
It's not like super hot today or
yesterday. 

1038
00:55:24,300 --> 00:55:26,600
It was in. 
I think it was like in the high 

1039
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:31,100
100 Fahrenheit. 
So So that's pretty much it gets

1040
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,500
pretty hot here. 
And where I live in Brisbane, 

1041
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:38,400
it's like semi-tropical. 
So we don't get any snow at all.

1042
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,200
Like, the first time I saw a 
real snow was when I came over 

1043
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,600
for low-carb Denver this year 
and went to the Rocky Mountains,

1044
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,400
I was like oh my gosh, this is 
no. 

1045
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,800
Wow, shoot. 
I was at low-carb dinner, I 

1046
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,800
didn't see you. 
I guess we had measured the 

1047
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,300
point though. 
There's a lot of people there 

1048
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,600
who were there was depend on 
being to are you going to be 

1049
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,200
going to any of the ones here 
coming up? 

1050
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:01,200
I'm the only plans. 
I have next year is to go to the

1051
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,800
Nutritional Therapy Association 
conference in March or fit and 

1052
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,000
Fab March in Portland. 
So I'll be over there for that. 

1053
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:12,400
And then I think low carb Denver
is the weekend after but this 

1054
00:56:12,700 --> 00:56:14,600
and this is what I did last this
year. 

1055
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,800
I did both but I think this 
year, I just the Australian 

1056
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,500
Dollar to the American dollar is
so bad. 

1057
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:24,500
Like I basically Give you guys 
my fifty dollar note and I get, 

1058
00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:28,400
like, $20 back. 
So again, I'll shoot, I'll just 

1059
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,500
have to come see y'all. 
Then I'll come down to the low 

1060
00:56:30,500 --> 00:56:32,200
carb or the yeah low carb down 
under. 

1061
00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:34,200
Yeah, definitely have to let us 
know. 

1062
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,800
We should get you speaking on 
there or something. 

1063
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:38,300
If we can Absolutely. 
I'll come eat some kangaroo, 

1064
00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:42,300
take out, roof shooting. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

1065
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:43,500
Yes. 
Well awesome. 

1066
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,500
I don't want to take up too much
of your time but what can people

1067
00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,500
go to find out more about you? 
Learn more about the nutritional

1068
00:56:48,500 --> 00:56:51,600
therapy and and stay in touch. 
Yes. 

1069
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:56,000
You can find me at nourishing 
conversations, that's on 

1070
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:01,300
Instagram and Facebook. 
I also have a podcast called 

1071
00:57:01,300 --> 00:57:03,700
low-carb conversation, so you 
can find me at 

1072
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:08,500
www.solutions-recovery.com and, 
and my other website is 

1073
00:57:08,500 --> 00:57:13,300
nourishing conversations.com. 
So pretty much if you're in 

1074
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:16,700
Australia, you can find me just 
about everywhere. 

1075
00:57:16,700 --> 00:57:18,700
In the low-carb done under group
in the Brisbane. 

1076
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:21,600
Paleo group, all around the 
social. 

1077
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:26,900
Idea. 
And yeah, it's just it's, I love

1078
00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:28,600
it. 
Like, I'm just got my hands in 

1079
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,200
so many fingers. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1080
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,200
I just can't get enough of it. 
I'm just so passionate about 

1081
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,200
spreading the word of real food 
and lower carbohydrate diets. 

1082
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:39,400
Well, that really matter what 
you're doing, you know, like in 

1083
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,400
the the local setting like, 
teaching teaching, younger kids,

1084
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,800
how to cook and cooking for them
at school and that speaks 

1085
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,300
volumes. 
That's pretty cool. 

1086
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,700
Thank you community is so 
important. 

1087
00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:51,600
And that's, you know, if there's
anything I can urge listeners to

1088
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,100
Which is what Jimmy more urged 
me to do. 

1089
00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,700
Right back in the beginning was 
like connect with that Community

1090
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000
go and form your local groups 
get together, cook together, 

1091
00:58:00,300 --> 00:58:03,000
learn and teach off each other 
because that's that's the best 

1092
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,700
way to to spread the word and to
get involved in learning more 

1093
00:58:07,700 --> 00:58:10,000
about low-carb. 
Absolutely. 

1094
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,400
Absolutely. 
Well, it's been an absolute 

1095
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:14,100
pleasure. 
Let's definitely keep in touch 

1096
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,600
and if there's ever anything I 
can do for you just let me know.

1097
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,700
Thank you and same here. 
I love to meet you in Australia 

1098
00:58:19,700 --> 00:58:21,600
one day. 
Absolutely I'll plan on it. 

1099
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:23,300
Thanks, take care.