What you got there? The snack.
This is Chip's new addition to his mushroom snack that's.
It looks like a fresh version. This is the one using ground
flax and I told him I'd try it. I didn't tell him I'd.
Try look how crispy it is. Crispy, pretty good.
That's the cinnamon one. Oh, that's good.
Man, I could, I would. Totally.
My favorite cereal was Cinnamon Toast Crunch for the kitten.
What was yours? Fruit Loops.
I like fruit loops too, Fruits probably a close second.
Cinnamon Toast Crunch is probably my first, but this if I
cut that up into squares and put like oh.
Yeah. Cream or something in there that
would definitely taste like cinnamon Toast crunch.
Pretty good. 10 or 10? I'm breaking my fast right now
with this. This hit a break too, but I'm
doing an alternate day fasting. Oh yeah?
Are you starting that this week or did you?
Last week. OK, Yeah.
Awesome. Let me chew.
You. You talk.
Let me chew. You're doing alternate day
fasting. You're going to think what you
were telling me is you're going to ramp up your calories on your
feeding days to elongate out the average over the course of the
week so you're not in a deep deficit.
Is that what you're doing? Yeah, so I'm, I'm in a building
phase right now. I'm not trying to, you know, get
into competition mode and get shredded or anything.
I would like to lose a little bit before this 50 mile March
because the more weight you're carrying it, the harder it is.
And I'm like one last trade of the March at 190 this year.
I'm currently like 180. I would like to get down to like
175 or so. The easiest year was when I was
in prep literally the week before peak week and I was like
16159. That was the easiest March.
Even though I was depleted, I was just so much lighter.
So I'd like to lose a little bit more for them.
And then I'm, I mean, the next month is hunting season.
So I could just kind of like stay at a leaner fighting weight
throughout that. But for me in a building phase,
eating ad libitum. I mean, I can just eat ad
nauseam, dude. Like you, you're the same way.
Like when you and I went bulk together and we were like, how
much you yesterday, man? You're like, oh man, I went up
berserk. I ate like 45155 hundred 6500
calories and that's me too. Like I could just eat so much
food. So I'm have a hard time relating
to the people that are like, oh man, I'm just picking it 1200
calories. I'm just, I'm so stuffed.
Yeah, when people say they forget to eat or like, oh, I
can't figure out how to get enough food and like.
Yeah, so that's evidence that our metabolisms are through the
roof. You know, that's one indicator
of it. But for me, my maintenance is
like 3000 calories, like I've done.
I've tracked macros for years and years and years.
I've manipulated everything. I know that if I'm between like
3000 and 3300 or 2900 and 3300, my weight's stable, but 3300
calories, I'm still hungry. So for me, it's like, I want to
feel full. I don't like thinking about
food, especially if I'm in a building phase, because I'm only
going to have that intensified as I'm in a cut.
So in the building phase, I want to actually feel sated.
So I'm like, OK, I'm just going to eat ad libitum and for me
that ones that being like between 5 and 6000 calories and
I feel good at that. And then the next day not eat
anything, do alternate day fast. And then when you average it out
over the course of a week, the average daily intake ones that
being around, you know, 28131 hundred somewhere around there.
So I'm doing that. And for me psychologically, I
don't even think about food on my days that I know are going to
be fasting days. Like if I eat until satiety on
my eating days, it makes it totally tolerable for me to not
think and fix it on food on my fasting days.
And that has been enjoyable. And I'm doing it every other
day. So like it never falls on the
same day of the week. Like Monday is not always eating
day or whatever. So it's, it's good because my
training has a little bit of variation in it.
Like I'm doing 1 long March, either Saturday or Sunday in
preparation for this March. I'm running every single day
now. I'm lifting every single day.
And if I'm not lifting, I'm still doing my push ups, pull
ups and something. So my output is up right now,
but I've honestly enjoyed it. Like today I was squatting and
you know, pause reps at 3:15 with perfect form felt felt
pretty good. And that was totally fasted
having marched 10 miles the day before.
So it's not hindering my performance, my weight, it'll
spike a little bit the day following the feeding day, but
it's trending down overall. Like I was 178 this morning, 176
on the in body scale, which is definitely on the way down for
me. So I'm digging it so far.
I like it so. On your fasting days, are you
still hitting your electrolytes? Yeah.
But since I'm not depleted right now, I've got like enough
residual from my feeding days that if I don't have
electrolytes on my fasting days, it's not a big issue.
I might have like a couple Pickles on my fasting days to
get some sodium in, but that's the extent of it.
Or like a scooper relight or something like that.
But pretty much if I'm not here, I'm not really doing any
electrolytes because I steal your electrolytes.
And if I'm not here and I can't steal your electrolytes, I don't
get them in, so thank you. You could probably order some I.
Probably could, but I just like an excuse to pop into your
office and say what's up man, Stealing some electrolytes so
let's have a role here. That is, but they're community.
Community likes but no I feel good man.
Like honestly, like this is only Week 2 going into Week 2 and
it's crazy because like on the day after a feeding day, I get
crazy pumps like I just feel swole and obviously my total
carbs are not that high. Like the other day these past
two feeding days, I was right under 6000 calories and my total
carbs were like 30 grams or less.
I think it was like 2426g and 30 grams.
So not that many total carbs. It's like pretty much just a lot
of meat. It's.
Just trace carbs, right? Yeah, trace carbs from like
cheese, dairy, eggs, stuff like that.
Or a brick. If I do a brick, I'll have, you
know, 10 grams, 12 grams carbs from a single brick.
So minimal carbs, but I get a noticeable increase in muscle
volume and pump the day following the feeding day and I
feel good. And then the following day when
I'm, you know, a little bit more depleted from that fast, I still
feel good and I just feel tighter.
So like I'm getting the best of both worlds.
So I'm digging in. Speaking of training, I want to
talk to you about that. So we're going to do full body
throughout the rest of your prep and then we're going to do like
a whole documented build phase 2026 after you reversed that and
everything. But I was thinking with you
battling the injuries that you are right now.
I wouldn't call it an injury. It's like a impingement.
Yeah. Like I didn't have a nothing
hurt. Like I didn't hurt anything
specifically at a specific time. It's just this.
Suboptimal. Weird.
I don't know, reduced range of motion and pinched something by
going on my back. But because of that, you're not
going as heavy as you typically would.
I can't like I cannot. My whole left side gives out.
Yeah. And for me doing a run every
single day right now, I mean there's my output's pretty high
right now. It's harder for me to like
double down on super top end sets of like hitting PRS at a
higher weight. And I'm really trying to focus
more so on the March and somewhat focus on cardiovascular
health right now. What if we switch gears
slightly, continued the full body, but really doubled down on
range of motion and range of motion and time on your tension?
Sure. I'm down, slow it down.
Yes, slow it. Down.
And just go complete range of motion like the other day I was
doing, I think it was training solo that day you weren't here.
I was doing dumbbell bench press.
And normally I'll go up to like 100 lbs on dumbbells and I'll
bang out eight reps or something.
But this time I was going way. I got flared out my dumbbells
and I went way. Deeper, deeper.
Elongated. Man I only hit like 90 for four
and 100 for two so not near the total volume or Rep count that I
was previously, but I got a way better stretch and more
activation. You're getting way more stimulus
that way too. Yeah.
So what if, in light of your impingement, my output rather
than doubling down on speed. Not that we're training for
speed or velocity training, but we, we have a pretty quick tempo
anyways. And it's probably because we're
super set and everything and like following each other.
Like I don't want to hold you up, you don't want to hold me
up. Like we've got a pretty quick
speed by default. We could probably just slow that
down a little bit and then like not be in a rush and just
stretch completely. I'm done.
I think that'd be good. So I was thinking it'd be nice
to switch something up one of the variables, just because
we've been doing this full body rotation since January.
Which I like it a lot, yeah. But then after my show, I think
I want to kind of transition into more of a push pull hyper
heavy split like I was in previous to January.
I'm all for it like that eight day rotational.
Yeah, where you do you do like a heavy push and a hyper pull.
I think it was more of a push, pull leg.
So it's almost like, yeah, it was an 8 day, wasn't it?
Yeah, we had a dedicated lower body, dedicated upper body.
We didn't do a full body necessarily.
You want to do that going into the reverse or after the
reverse. Either way is fine.
Probably, yeah. Probably AF.
Yeah. Well, let's, we'll figure it
out. Yeah.
Maybe after the show? But for the next two months or
basically until the show, if we just focus more, I mean, we
don't want to like sacrifice top end strength at all.
I don't think we will. I don't think we will either.
But just like really training slower and more time under
tension I think will be advantageous for the both.
Of US super super super focused, I can't think of the word not
focused. Super focused squeeze in the
attractive position would be good to have.
Like today when I was doing squats, you know, I've done four
O 5 and and I put 5 plates on when I'm doing the safety barn,
but like with today, just had 315 on there.
But doing like those paws reps and just going freaking ass to
grasp. Like I feel really good doing
those and it's like I'm going slow enough that I can feel
every fibre popping and activating as I'm going through
the motion that I, I'm not really at any risk of injury
because if there's anything that's off kilter, like I catch
it before it actually happens, so.
And you don't have to go heavy when you train like that.
Yeah, I think a lot of people overlook that slow time under
tension, that tempo style training.
And they just bounce the weight. They go too fast.
They're not really focusing on the muscles at hand.
And they're, you know, they're recruiting muscles to help
because they're just using inertia and momentum.
Agreed. Yeah, sweet.
Another thing I want to mention, talk about bounce on days
around, got a couple things to talk about on a business side
before we get into that. We get brick by brick that just
launched. So that's now live and this will
go out. This will hit Friday.
Friday, Friday is the 9th. No 8th, 8th yeah, today's Friday
will be the 8th. So this will go out on the 8th,
25th, yeah, Which means the Brick by Brick promo is finished
at 11:59 PM this Sunday, the 10th.
So from now until then, people can still take 15% off their
total order volume discounts included with the code Brick by
Brick. And I'm super excited.
Like Ellen's going to be painting those names whenever
she gets some spare time. So I'm excited to see that thing
filled up. It's going to be good, yeah.
We got hundreds and hundreds of orders.
Yeah, we got a lot of names. Monday morning we're recording.
So we're going to be packaging orders all day today.
So huge thanks to all y'all that got bricks.
I mean, we couldn't use that. The whole whole concept of the
brick by brick promo is to basically honor y'all that
helped build this business, literally brick by brick.
So shout out to y'all. So that's exciting.
But in other news, I was on a live call last week, that 5:00
podcast that I did in Suburban in the morning.
We were talking, it was on the Kilts live show and there was a
lot of people like I was, it's kind of funny, man, because
that's definitely a carnivore community, right?
Yes, which I'm all for them. I mean, I'm, I'm more often than
not carnivore. I'm more carnivore than a lot of
people that claim to be carnivore and have carnivore in
their Instagram handle. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah. But it's funny because like they
were asking me about specific questions like macro
manipulation, grams, fat, protein ratios, calories and
like calories is kind of like this taboo word in a lot of the
carnivore space and you know, Chico calories in calories, all
that stuff. And it's funny because like they
oftentimes throw shade towards the calories in calories out
paradigm. And you know, they'll people in
general kind of like negatively approach the eats less, move
more stereotype, which for good reason.
I mean, that obviously hasn't really made a meaningful impact
on the health of society. But then they'll counter that
with just eat fatty meat. Just eat fatty meat.
Like that's like the default response to everything.
Just eat fatty meat. And I got to thinking about
analogies here and like I'm in business, I'm an entrepreneur, I
build things if calories in, calories out.
Chico is like this thing that people just want to throw shade
to, you know, it's fine. But then responding to that with
just eat fatty meat. That would be the equivalent of
me of someone coming to me asking for business advice,
asking for tactics, strategies, game plan protocols to like
measure like level up their game in business or finances.
And then my response being just work really hard, you know?
Yeah, that's true. Like it's going to require a lot
of hard work, but like, no shit, Sherlock.
Like we need some tangible metrics.
We need some like, like stepping stones where we can see and
gather momentum. And I get frustrated with this,
you know, just super generalized, generic, you know,
non helpful information. Like, yeah, fatty meat is the
core of everything that I consume.
But just telling somebody that's trying to level up in life and
improve their composition and get things dialed in because
they've plateaued is not likely going to see a profound
improvement with the words of just eat fatty meat if they're
already eating fatty meat, you know, so.
How much fatty meat? Yeah, yeah.
So it's frustrating. We can't manage what we can't
measure. Can't measure, we don't measure.
We can't measure. What can't be managed.
What can be measured can't be managed.
Yeah, yeah. I've been thinking all in terms
of analogies here lately. And I was thinking of another
one because I'm getting into bow hunting again, specifically
traditional bow hunting. And you and I were talking this
morning about just our space in general in, in bodybuilding,
like natural bodybuilding is pretty much a cult niche
following to begin with. And then you've got ketogenic
natural bodybuilding. And that's like tip of the
spear. Like it's super cold.
Like it's very, very, very niche.
And you think of like hunting. And I'm thinking in terms of
hunting 'cause I just got done reading Cam Haines's new book,
Undeniable, which is great, by the way, but it's like he's a
bow hunter. He doesn't use a rifle.
He'll go on dangerous hunts and refuse having a rifle as a
backup. And he's like, if the bear kills
me, the bear kills me. It's just meant to be, you know,
like he's just hardcore with it. But I'm thinking of, of things
in terms of analogy. And it's like there are a lot of
parallels between hunting and bodybuilding, like bodybuilding
the with performance enhancing drugs and you know, all the
bells and whistles, all the supplements, all the new gizmos
and gadgets. It's kind of like hunting that's
been just over commercialized, all the fancy equipments, you
know, shooting 1000 yards with these souped up scopes.
It's like not nitty gritty in the details, close up, close and
personal. And then you got the next tier
up from that. I mean, still admirable.
Like I respect bodybuilders just as I respect, you know, hunters
that are doing that. And there's a lot of skill in
long distance shooting that's taking anything away from that,
just as there's a lot of skill and enhanced bodybuilding.
You know, I've got friends and clients that are enhanced like
more power to them. That's not the route I've taken.
And the next level up you got like natural bodybuilding, which
is kind of like bow hunting. You know, bow hunting is more of
like an art. It's traditional.
It's just kind of you have to, you know, put more emphasis on
the stalk. You've got to put more
groundwork in. You've just got to be more
prepared. You got to put in more practice.
You can not shoot a rifle all year long and then, you know,
have a pretty good group after picking it up for the first time
with a bow. You can't do that, you know,
like if you take months and months off from shooting a bow,
you pick that bow up again. It's not like riding a bike,
like you're going to suck until you get honed in getting muscle
memory and you take it one step further.
And then you've got like ketogenic natural bodybuilding.
And that's like shooting with a traditional Longbow 'cause I
mean, it's even, it's like more instinctive, it's more
intuition. It's even more of an art form
and there's less gizmos, gadgets and bells and whistles, right?
You can't cheat the system. Yeah, And like you look at
natural bodybuilding where they're using like all kinds of
fancy supplements. We've got all kinds of just
extra stuff and, you know, people doing flexible dieting,
eating all kinds of junk food. Like to me, that's like, I'm a
purist. You know, I like tradition, I
like purity. I like distilling things down to
its essence, to its core. And like, I have a compound bow,
but I'm like not excited about shooting it because it it takes
too much time to aim and line the side pin up.
It's just like I spend so much time with work and everything
else I do to be like focused on all the little nitty gritty
details. Like I just want to feel it.
I just want to be instinctive. But I just want to flow, you
know? And I picked up the traditional
bow and I was shooting it with Rigel and I'm like, this is what
I've been missing. Just like innate, raw, pure art.
And it's like that's what eating real food and being a natural
bodybuilder is, you know? It's like distilling things down
to its core essence, the building blocks that are tried
and true and proven to work, the simple compound movements, the
simple nutrition, the good nutrition.
And it's like that I love. Like that's my bread and butter,
for lack of a better term, butter.
But it's not as popular because it doesn't have that shiny
object syndrome. Like bow hunting isn't nearly as
popular as every other form of hunting.
And traditional archery is like a super ultra niche cult as
well. And ketogenic natural
bodybuilding is the same in that regard.
So it's like, how can we bring more excitement and enthusiasm
to that, you know, that group because it's it should be there.
Like, I wish it had more notoriety.
I wish it had more acceptance and knowledge around it.
But it's like not because people are so fixated on the next new
shiny gizmo gadget thing that's there's always on to the next
thing, but they're always on to the next thing.
So they wind up just spinning their wheels and getting stuck
with where they're at. So it's like we got to we got to
educate people on the purity of what it is we're doing and why
we do it. And there's.
Not a lot of content out there and and prove the point that you
can do it like I think, yeah, I think it gets lost in the
shuffle. Yeah, it gets lost in the
shuffle. Like people have been killing,
you know, dangerous game and grizzly bears with a wooden
stick and primitive bow for much longer than they've been killing
bears with, you know, high-powered rifles.
And people have been building muscle doing the basics for a
lot longer than they've been using.
TRTHRT, Sarms, all the supplements and special
equipment, you know, so it's like like I'm all for technology
and advancement in growth, but not at the not at the demise of
the core essence, if that makes sense.
Yeah. You gotta have a happy medium.
Yeah, so it's like I'm, I'm more motivated than ever.
Just like educate people on the basics, the purity and like the
core of everything that we're doing because like we're always,
I mean, it's a content shuffle out there.
Like there's so much content, people can't even keep up with
it. But there's not a lot of content
around why we stay natural, why we do this, what the benefits
are long term, because there's so much excitement around all
the advancements in HRTTRT, drugs and everything else right
now. And I don't know, like it's just
had me thinking in certain, like Fred Bear.
I was talking about Fred Bear, the the godfather of modern day
archery. He was putting out content when
nobody else was and he put archery on the map, but there
was no demand for that content. He had to create the demand.
So we have to create the demand, which is not a really good
business model by any means. It's like ideally you find where
there is demand and you make a product that caters to it.
But it's like, I'm passionate about this because I know the
benefits of it. So let me educate people as to
why they should as well, you know?
It's definitely crazy. I mean several like
bodybuilding, Facebook groups, some of some of them even
carnivore or keto. And every day there's just
steady streams and comments and threads and interactions of what
stack people are taking, how much they should be doing.
And there's people in there that say they've, you know, lifted
for a year or lifted for six months or lifted for however
long. And they want to get into the,
the enhanced or, you know, supplements that are going to
kick them out of the natural pool.
And the, the amount of people that comment in on that question
is crazy what everybody's doing and what how much of each
supplement they're taking. And I was just performing and.
About someone younger than me whose coach is trying to sway
them to like, get on a bunch of drugs as a female and like, when
you're, you know, in your 20s and you're getting on a bunch of
drugs. You're in your.
You're in your prime, like you're in your newbie gains
prime era with all this fresh stimulus where you can, you can
easily get a solid what, five years of pretty impressive
progress if you just leverage your natural ability and eat
right. Like you don't have to jump
right to taking, you know, steroids or hormones or anything
like that. And all of that.
I mean, hormones are fickle, man.
Like you pull one lever on hormones and there's like a
downstream effect that is not going to correct itself
overnight. Like it's not like a, it's not
like something you can kind of dip your toe into, dip it out
of, play around with, like it has a lasting impact.
Well, I think, I think that's the case for PEDs as well.
Like you start messing with one of them or two of them, or you
intermingle two or three or four of them and now you're just, I
mean. Yeah.
I mean, you look at you look at, you know, young girls that are
getting on, you know, just any, any type of hormone implication,
like whether it's. Like birth?
Control. Birth control Iuds, hormonal
Iuds, like all of that. Like when you're getting on
something at, you know, 12/13/14 to minimize the impact of your
cycle, like that's having an impact.
You're just messing with nature. Yeah, you're messing with nature
and that that could be a very controversial topic to go down
to. I'm not opposed to talking about
it, but it's like they're lasting impacts to everything
and you look at why we have incredibly low fertility rates
right now. And why men's testosterone sucks
as a general population. You know, what do they say guys
in their 20s or 30s nowadays have testosterone levels that
would be expected to be like in your 70s?
Yeah, 70s and 80s, yeah, just. There's so many environmental.
And like a lot of women can't get pregnant now in large part,
I think due to the hormonal implications that they start off
at such a young age. It's just crazy.
And it's like, I, I don't know, I, I, I think of things in terms
of, you know, what is it supposed to be like?
What are the natural hormonal cycles?
What are humans supposed to live like till the day that we die?
And I'm not trying to cheat death.
Like, I want to optimize my life.
I want to fight Father Time as best I can, but not at the
expense of going through what a human being is supposed to go
through, you know? And I think a lot of people, I
think a lot of people are trying to cheat death because they're
unfulfilled in their life. That could be a super deep topic
too. But like, if I died tomorrow, I
don't want to die tomorrow. Tomorrow.
Yeah. Yeah.
We got a lot of stuff to do still.
But I feel at peace with my life.
I feel fulfilled. I feel happy.
I've never, I've never sacrificed my integrity.
There's things that frustrate the hell out of me.
But at the end of the day, when I stop and pause and reflect on
where I've come thus far in life, like I feel very content,
not satisfied, but content of where I'm at.
And I feel like I've come by it honestly.
And I feel like the people that aren't in that situation, they
are easily filled with regret. They're more willing to cut
corners. They're more willing to
sacrifice their integrity. And it just when they do that,
it leaves a hole in them that they try to fill.
And it just is an emptiness. And I don't want that, you know,
And if that means, you know, I'm, I die someday, which it
will mean, I mean, we're all going to die someday.
But it's like I'm going to be able to die in peace.
And I think peace is something that a lot of people have a hard
time finding. Yeah, for sure.
A. Lot of people try to live too
fast too. They do.
And that's kind of goes back to
what we're talking about the other day with like all those
concerts that you're going to all these singers that are like
having to postpone or drop out because of health implications
due to living life in the fast lane, taking a bunch of drugs.
And it's like, man, I recently, I'm going to get too deep in the
details here because it's personal for somebody else, but
it's like somebody I know who kind of has been going downhill
just opened up about taking some drugs, you know, And it's like,
man, it, it has such a life altering consequence.
And it's not just, it's not just isolated to the individual.
Like anybody that that person touches, it impacts them.
Oh yeah, ripples. Ripples way out.
Same thing with like, suicide,
like all that stuff. Alcohol.
Yeah, like we all had. We're all one unit.
We're all one ideally synergistic entity.
And when you start stepping outside of that and doing things
outside the realm of the natural, then it just, it has a
lasting impact. And it's, it's in my opinion,
selfish of people to do that with no caution paid towards
those that they love, those that are close to them and how it
impacts them, especially people with kids.
I mean, it's like, I know that I'm a father.
I really think about parenting a lot.
And it's like, man, I want to do the best I can for them and put
the right foot forward. And that by definition means
that I'm not, you know, taking a bunch of stuff that's going to
cut my life short or rule them with an iron fist and put them
in a position where they would be more apt to do things that
they shouldn't, you know, So, and we're going all over the
place with this podcast. We just went.
Speaking of life altering, they caught the murderer.
I'm sure you guys have seen that.
And we talked about that on the I.
Don't remember if we did or not, but.
Yeah. So that you want to give the
people a little. Yeah, so there's a there's a
State Park here in Northwest Arkansas area called Devil's Den
State Park. And we've got a whole bunch of
awesome hiking trails. And if you're not familiar with
the story, there was a family, husband and wife and two
children, two young daughters that were hiking there on
Saturday afternoon of what last weekend or previous weekend?
And he was in the woods and he took mom and dad's life.
The two daughters escaped and he was on the run for quite a
while, but they caught him and they arrested them.
Think based on their conversations with him, he, I
don't know if he flat out acknowledged or took credit for
for doing it, but whatever he said LED them to pin it on him
pretty strongly. They didn't disclose any of the
conversation but he was this pretty sketchy sounding dude.
He's not all that old at 20s or 30s, just a younger guy.
He was a teacher. He was actually just hired on at
a teaching job here in Was it Springdale?
I think so. Yeah, I hadn't started the
school year yet, but it was getting close.
And come to find out he's got a history of other school
districts letting him go silently after some
interrogations or investigations into misconduct, some weird
allegations toward young female students, just as behavior in
general was weird. And then a lot of the parents of
those students in those past school districts are like,
coming forward and like, sharing stuff online and like, yeah, we
thought this guy was weird. He was always inappropriate.
He, like, the kind of way he interacted with our kids and did
all this different stuff. So apparently he had a history
prior to coming to this area. And who knows what his
intentions were with attacking this family with two young
daughters. They were seven and nine years
old. And that's, you know, he's got a
history with young girls, so. They got.
They got him, he's hopefully, I mean, he's deaths.
What? What is the?
I mean, he has the potential of getting the death penalty, I
guess. Without parole though, for sure.
We'll see. Yeah, we'll see what happens,
but. Yeah, it's crazy, man.
We don't understand people again.
But like I, I hike there all the time when I hike there almost
every single weekend. And had we not been at that
competition in Little Rock, I would have been there hiking
that day, that Saturday morning. Which is why you are now
carrying a knife. So I picked up a little
self-defense unit. Yeah, I'm just going to carry it
in my hand. You know, I thought about just
packing heat and carrying every time I hike, but I want
something literally in my hand as I'm walking.
Yeah, it's quick response because.
Well, you got the guns, man. You get off.
Yeah, but no one's gonna mess with you.
You're gonna see you come in. Dude could just jump up from
behind a tree or the woods and poke you with a knife, I don't
know. Yeah, people are crazy, man.
People are crazy. It it's interesting that people
feel so backed up against the wall that that becomes their
solution to the world. There's been so many shootings,
mass murders, attacks, just, I think just emotionally unstable
people. Like they just need to deal with
their emotions, not take it out on everybody else.
Why do you think people's emotions are so volatile right
now, just in general? Just the the way the world is, I
think there's just a lot of contributing factors.
There's a lot of noise. Like, I think people are just
dealing with like deep anxiety, depression, loneliness.
They don't know how to deal with emotions.
They deal with loss themselves instead of like actually working
through it in a healthy manner. They just, they're just like,
screw this. I'm going to do something crazy.
I'm going to try to divert that energy into something else.
And they want to affect other people.
Yeah, in fact, a lot of people lack a center.
Of source. Or they have to ground them.
They have no, they have no will. They have no reason.
They have nothing to look forward to.
They, you know, they're not driven.
They're just coasting through life and they.
Have you ever been at someone's bedside as they've actually
passed? Yeah, my dad.
You were with him when it happened.
When he took his last breath, we were holding his hand.
What was that like? Terrible, but I would not have
wanted to miss it. Yeah, it was absolutely gut
wrenching when it happened. But now looking back on it, it's
like, wow, that's. I'm glad I was there.
Yeah. And actually I think I'm trying
to remember now, but I think I was supposed to be out of the
state visiting my buddy in Colorado and I cancelled the
trip because we didn't know if his last time here with us was
going to be during that time. I was going to be gone, but I
was just like, OK, I can't, I don't want to risk it and
definitely would have missed it, which would have been terrible.
So. I had a podcast couple weeks
back and same situation, like the guy that I was recording
with, he was with his dad when he passed and it was weird.
Like did you listen to that episode?
Definitely listen to that episode because I'd be really
curious to get your take on that situation.
But he was like, it was almost like he was comforted by the
reality of it all because like, when his dad passed, he like,
saw the light leave him so that when he buried his dad's body,
he wasn't burying his dad, so to speak.
He knew that they were no longer one in the same.
Does that make sense? You feel the same way?
Yeah. That's, that's tripping, man.
I've never, I've never been with somebody as they've died.
I've been with lots of animals that I've hunted, but never been
with somebody that I'm close to, like in the moment of their
death. I would recommend it and that
sounds kind of weird, but if you have the ability to actually
experienced that in a super close manner like that, it's
very eye opening. Yeah, I, I've been to a bunch of
funerals, especially like as a kid and like they'd have an open
gas casket. And like I've sometimes I've
gone up. Look, sometimes I haven't been.
The reasons I haven't have always been because I want to
remember that person alive as opposed to, you know, in an open
casket. But at the end of the day, like,
that's what I was going to. Say like, 'cause we all, my dad
had an open casket too. And you know, you go up there
and you pay your respects and everything while you're at the
funeral, but you know that they're not in there anymore.
It's weird. It's super weird.
And like when you think of your dad like, the image of him in
the casket probably isn't what you think of.
No, it's like all. The all the memories, you know,
Yeah, I mean, I would definitely want to be there in the final
moments with all my all my loved ones.
And some people would be like, no, I can't stand.
It's going to be too hard. It's, you know, it's a very
difficult thing to go through. And then like, I wouldn't be
able to emotionally do it. But I would say still do it.
Yeah, definitely. Yeah.
They didn't want to see that. It's like not being there isn't
going to prevent it from happening.
You know, like you don't want to go through it because you don't
want it to happen. Well, you don't have that
control. So be there because next year or
in two years or five years or 10 years, you're going to know that
you were there. And I would think too, from
their perspective, like if I'm putting myself in their shoes,
like if I'm about to sail on home, as they say, like I would
want the people in my life to be with me, you know, I would want
that. You'd want that comfort at the
end of the yeah end. Stages.
So I think like, out of respect for them, whether it's
comfortable for me or not, I owe it to them to be there, you
know? It won't be comfortable, Yeah,
it's not comfortable, yeah, But do hard things.
Do hard things, and we're getting deep with this one.
Yeah, yeah, this one kind of spun all over the.
Place well beyond macros and cardio this.
Is not the work anymore. This Maybe this is the emotional
work. Yeah, well, that's the thing
about the work, man. There's, there's work.
It's multifaceted. It goes beyond just.
Physical work, mental work, emotional work, Yeah.
Yeah, it's, it's life. Life's work, man.
Life's work. It does.
It does make you realize, though, when you're with people
like that, like your dad, I mean, I can't imagine, but like,
you have a very clear grasp on what's actually important in
life. Oh, yeah.
And it makes like all this superficial nonsense, it become
what it is, which is just nonsense, like it isn't worth
one iota of your thought or time.
Like, I wasn't thinking about how many likes my most recent
video got or, you know, just stupid minuscule details of
unimportant things. It's like, oh, this is like the
core of. Life.
Yeah. That's that centering, you know,
And like, you have that center and it just puts everything else
into perspective. And it's like when, you know
what matters, then when you're up against the wall, it's like,
it's not a big deal. Not a big deal.
Yeah. So you're probably not going to
go stab people at Devil's Den, you know, No.
Crazy. But I think I think people need
to put themselves in those hard situations like that so they can
they can dig deep. Yeah, and like like we've talked
about before, like society speaking, we're we're in a
pretty soft plush era. It's so like there are certainly
emotional hardships and lifestyle hardships that come at
us unexpected, but the the better we can seek out
self-imposed hardships, the better we are equipped to handle
those things that we have come into our lives unexpectedly.
And I mean, that's why that's why we train, that's why we do
what we do. That's why we that's why we have
like non negotiables in life that we abide by, because having
discipline, having action, having work ethic and resilience
in those times makes other things that life though that you
which it most certainly will more manageable, you know.
What did they say? Life doesn't get easier.
We just get stronger. Yeah.
Or we we're more prepared to work through the the the
hurdles, speed bumps. Got to put in the work, put in
the work, man, I like them man, I like, I like these mindset
centric recordings. How many long time, Jeff?
How long we've been going? 38 minutes.
That's pretty good, Pretty good. Anything else to cap it off with
bookend? We got a show coming up here in
what were 7. 6-7 weeks. Seven weeks in a a day as of
today. So just a reminder on that,
yeah, get your registrations in. We're doing some random drawings
for those of you that register every single week, we're going
to randomly pick somebody. Yeah, we're going to pick the
random winner for the current registrants today.
So yeah, that'll be good. We got to call the venue.
I don't have a few details with that.
But we got a lot of stuff's coming in.
We got a lot of excitement for our swag bags.
We got a lot. Of awesome, we got water
bottles. Yeah, we got custom water.
Custom water. We're doing some things that
neither of us have seen other competitions.
Yeah, we're going all that with. It I think we've got full blown
carnivore bars in the swag bags, full size.
Every competitor is going to get full keto bricks, carnivore
bars, relights, creatine from Molly and Kiel, and keto brains.
We're gonna have pretty legit swipe back.
Yeah. Yeah, it's gonna be good, Yeah.
I'm excited, yeah. I would even just compete just
to get one of those and there's gonna be $5060 worth of stuff in
there The. Trophies are legit.
I just ordered the rest of the trophies, so those are coming
in. Yeah, it's gonna be good.
It's gonna be good. So get on at
naturalstatesavages.com. Yep.
Brick brick launch Keto Brick dot.
Com And if you're not gonna compete in this show, definitely
come check it out. It's going to be we want to have
as many spectators as we can. We want to pack the house full.
We're going to have a whole entire lobby full of vendors.
We're going to have BBQ going. It's going to be.
Yeah, my dad's going to be
cooking barbecue, and then Stan, I'm probably going to have him
roast in a lamb the whole time, like on his little spit thing.
So that would be good sweet. I mean, whether you compete or
not, it's gonna be just a cool shindig.
So people should come for no other reason than that alone.
And we got a lot of people coming in from out of state to
compete. And I've been in contact with at
least one person who's coming in from out of state just to be
there just to meet us and hang out and just soak up the vibes.
So. I got a notification that Eric
Stone from the Tribes coming in as a as an attendee.
Oh, sweet. Yeah, yeah.
Stoked about. I'm sure Daniel Schroyer is
probably going to come in. Sure, if he's around, I don't
know, He's a, he's a travelling guy.
He's travelling guy, but it'd be good.
I'm excited for that, yeah. We're gonna have a kind.
Of a I'm gonna, I'm stressing a little bit because that's the
first time I've done that thing. But then once that's over, I'll
be able to like read a little bit, maybe like 1st 4 hours and
then on to the next big thing, which we we got cooking up right
now. But yeah, I'm excited about it's
going to be good. It's going to be awesome.
All right, ladies and gents, that's a wrap.
We'll see you next time for the work.