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By the way, somebody comment in 
the last video we were singing 

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Just Another Manic Monday and 
apparently we didn't get the the

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artist correct. 
Just oh, that I I bet you I said

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it was Carly Simon, but I was 
off. 

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Yeah, I forget what they said it
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Incorrect. 
I was thinking of a different 

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song. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's what they 
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OK, they comment so. 
Thanks for that. 

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Yeah, people are listening to 
our singing man, what's what's a

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good song that we can we can 
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It's just a standard song, the. 
Wheels on the bus Good, no? 

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Yeah, I don't know about that 
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How's your experiment going? 
Experiment's going good. 

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It I guess technically may be 
over. 

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So Nick and I and I guess Mike 
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too. 
But we've already gathered a 

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bunch of data and we all may be 
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in and the original study was 
done on A5 week basis. 

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But everything that we were 
looking to solve and figure out,

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we've kind of gathered the data 
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So we're probably going to call 
it and then we'll record a 

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podcast going over the all the 
results. 

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But I got blood work before I 
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yesterday. 
So I'll have two weeks without 

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deviation at the four to one, 
4000 plus calories, 9% of 

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calories coming from protein. 
And I'll have the blood work 

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back probably tomorrow. 
Sweet. 

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So I'll be able to do a deep 
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I'll do a deep dive on this 
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the findings. 
But it's been interesting. 

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However, today I'm excited to 
eat some protein. 

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Do you feel like it was 
conclusive after only two weeks?

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You figured out what you were 
set out to figure out. 

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Yeah, I wouldn't recommend doing
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anything unless you're needing 
to use therapeutic ketogenic 

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dieting for like cancer or 
something like that. 

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But from like a bodybuilding 
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think it would be good. 
I wrote about this in my 7th SET

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Sunday newsletter. 
But like if you're in a building

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phase and like in phase seven of
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protein's up higher, oftentimes 
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calories are up higher. 
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with the protein, you'll start 
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as I've disclosed before. 
But I think if you do this, so 

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for instance, let's say my 
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calories. 
Throughout this experiment, I've

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been at 4000, so 1000 above 
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If I'm in a building phase and 
wanted to, you know, if I was 

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hitting a plateau or putting on 
unnecessary body fat or just, 

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you know, feeling a little taxed
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What I could do is on a, you 
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scheduled deload. 
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could have a week or a week and 
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extended fast because I think 
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a building phase. 
So you're giving your digestive 

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system a breather. 
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standpoint, if I'm baseline at 
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I'm at like 3500 for instance. 
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wanted to have a week at 3500 at
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maybe even higher, maybe 4000 
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So same calories or higher. 
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effectively increase my 
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in adverse body fat tissue gain.
And it would also give my 

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digestive system a break from 
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And then when I go back to a 
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split, I feel like it would my 
body would respond favorably and

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I would just be providing that 
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adapting in the direction I want
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In your context, you know, 
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I mean, if you compete in 
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be like almost a year. 
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And if you're gradually dropping
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you started prep when? 
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of January. 
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So your calories are already 
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you've got a long ways to go. 
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refeeds for you this week, be 
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show being in three weeks, your 
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But still, if we've got several 
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out of caloric runway. 
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where at some point in that long
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you know, double the calories, 
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additional 500 to 1000 calories.
And your body did not put on 

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excess body fat, but it did ramp
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Then when we go back to that 
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body's going to bust through any
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the whole thing more sustainable
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I'm down so. 
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you're in a unique position 
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doing all this yourself and 
you're like, all right, I'm 

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hungry. 
I'm tired and depleted. 

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Let me eat an extra 1000 
calories. 

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I mean, it'd be really easy to 
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because you're hungry. 
So it's kind of cool that I'm 

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able to step back from it 
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your hunger and I could be OK. 
Let me just look at the data. 

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Let me be super objective with 
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What's the best thing for Greg? 
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viable option. 
So you wouldn't want to do this 

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if you have a relatively short 
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But if you're doing like a 30 
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have done, then I could see this
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lengthen that prep time in a 
sustainable fashion. 

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Yeah, this would be cool to see 
how how it comes comes out. 

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Yeah, so we'll do this with you 
if you're down after this first 

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show. 
So this will be our first peak 

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week. 
Try a refeed and we bumped you. 

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I was pretty conservative with 
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I think I've got you at what, 
2120? 

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Two 100 calories. 
Or something like that. 

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Yeah, I think so. 
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but those will get higher with 
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your actual peak week and then 
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following week after your show, 
that's when we can experiment 

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with this protocol at the 4:00 
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probably 1, maybe 1 1/2 weeks. 
I think what I've experienced is

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I was super hungry the first 
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I mean I was eating 4000 
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more than double your intake. 
And I was complaining about 

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being hungry too. 
Felt bad about it 'cause. 

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You're, you know, I'll show you 
hunger. 

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Yeah, but I was hungry because 
there was so little food volume 

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at this 4 to one with so much 
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But what I've noticed literally 
in the past four days, my hunger

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is gone. 
My calories haven't changed, my 

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hunger is gone. 
So to me, that means my 

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metabolism has acclimated to 
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stabilized. 
So I believe if I was to keep 

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going, I would start seeing an 
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going forward, but I haven't 
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prep. 
But for you, we can try it for 

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that week after your show, your 
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rate back, then drop back down 
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But not, you know, as I mean, 
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I mean, you're at on a baseline.
Was it 1718 hundred? 

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Yeah, 1790. 17701780. 
So what we do is those will keep

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dropping. 
Your refeed will go into effect 

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this week. 
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a little bit higher with that 
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be the case until your show. 
And they will probably bump your

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week after show at the four to 
one up to about probably not 

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3000 calories, probably like 
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2000 calories instead of 1700. 
So you'll have more runway now 

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with this intervention. 
Sweet. 

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It'll be fun to try. 
Yeah, I'm excited to see how 

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that data all piles. 
Up and I feel pretty good about 

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it, like I feel like I'm really 
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So me doing it for two weeks to 
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confident I can apply this to 
your prep and it won't derail us

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or set us back at all. 
I think it'll only help things. 

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Yeah, this will be a whole new 
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Yeah. 
So I'm excited about that. 

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What else is new? 
Not much. 

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Not much we need to get. 
I want to get updated lab panels

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for you. 
After, after show #1 because we 

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just got them in. 
Oh, it's a few weeks ago. 

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A couple weeks ago. 
Yeah, we. 

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Did dexas too. 
Yeah, we could probably do them.

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We could do blood work for you 
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show, because then we'll have 
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A week at the four to one. 
Sure, get blood work then. 

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I've gotten some of the results 
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yesterday, which is crazy man. 
Doing it that way through that 

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third party company is the way 
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I scheduled my appointment at 
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got all my labs drawn, was out 
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the door, and then I'm already 
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within 20. 4 hours. 
It is super slick. 

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You go to the little lobby and 
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kiosk and they pop out, call 
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Yeah, I can't imagine like going
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that. 
Just seems like a massive 

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Insurances now you. 

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Used to go to a physician back 
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It was just my primary care 
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checkup. 
I should probably start doing 

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that again. 
I haven't had any need to but 

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but you go there and you just. 
Get a checkup you've already 

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tested for. 
Right. 

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And then you go there and they 
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appointment's at 9. 
You go there and you sit there 

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for 30 minutes waiting to get 
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through a 2 minute conversation.
It's, you know, worthless. 

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No bueno. 
So yeah, we can get your lab 

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panels. 
And I've already gotten again, 

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seven of the results back. 
And it's weird because my lipid 

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markers didn't get, they didn't 
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grams of fat a day. 
Interesting. 

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My sex hormone binding globulin 
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OK, So the only thing that I can
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research, but I think that with 
the higher fat, the sex hormone 

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binding globin is just sticking 
around longer and that's why 

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it's measuring higher it's. 
Just showing up. 

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Yeah, that'd be my only 
assumption, but yeah, I'm 

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excited to get all the lab 
panels back and do a deep dive 

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on them. 
It'll be interesting. 

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Are you going to do another DEXA
coming up? 

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I don't need to do another dex 
as frequently as you because I'm

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not in prep right now. 
I mean my composition is not 

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changing as. 
Much, but you hop on the in body

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pretty regularly, right? 
Yeah, I do the in body and then 

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I've got that withing scale at 
home and then I think Hume is 

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actually going to send me a 
scale, so I'll have 3 

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bioelectrical impedance scales 
that I can, you know, see how 

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they compare. 
So yeah, you're like. 

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A mad scientist with data. 
Mad sciences for sure. 

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I smell bacon, somebody. 
I do smell bacon, I just got it 

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with food. 
Man, that's making me hungry. 

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Crystal, Crystal's sisters in 
town, because we're about to 

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have this baby and she made 
rotisserie chicken last night 

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for them, and then she cooked up
a bunch of bacon with Brussels 

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sprouts and that cast iron 
skillet. 

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It looked pretty good, man. 
It looked really good. 

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Super good. 
But I haven't had that much 

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protein in a long time, so I got
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Yeah, soon. 
Some chicken wings. 

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Chicken wings begin. 
We got to work at it today. 

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That went good. 
You're super tired today though.

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I'm tired, Moody, a little 
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Irritable. 
My body temp is all over the 

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Yesterday I was outside in our 

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parking lot here wearing a 
hoodie with a hood up drinking a

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cup of coffee and it was 92° 
outside. 

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Yeah, I remember when I was 
working on a Gold's Gym in 

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Washington, doing a prep there 
before I'd work out, I would 

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have all my gear, all my clothes
on, like 2 hoodies. 

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I would make cup of coffee and 
then I would go sit in their 

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sauna for like 10 minutes before
I'd even be able to go work out.

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Yeah, it's kind of crazy, but 
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doing like a every day that 
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gone for a run. 
A little mile or so. 

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Yeah, I think the Dollar General
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averaging like a 8 1/2 and it 
pays for something. 

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Trying to get my feet ready for 
that 50 mile March. 

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Yeah. 
When is that? 

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That's coming up pretty soon. 
August. 

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That's right, August. 
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prior, I've always like every 
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7-8, ten miles kind of 
conditioning my feet forward. 

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But with us having a baby any 
moment now, it's like, when am I

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going to be able to justify 
leaving Crystal for? 

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3 or 4. 
Hours while I go walk every 

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single day and like it's just I 
don't see it happening. 

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So my feet are probably going to
be miserable during the March, 

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but if I can at least run on 
them a little bit I can 

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hopefully hedge against some of 
them. 

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But they changed the route this 
year too, so it's all in my I 

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thought. 
You were saying it, is it a 

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little bit more private? 
Off the highway, it's like a 

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legit walking trail. 
It's like all, not all, but a 

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lot of it's limestone. 
So it should be easier on my 

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feet. 
So I'm hopeful that not putting 

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in as much miles as prep work is
going to be totally cool. 

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Yeah. 
Well, there's people, I mean, 

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everyone has to prep to some 
extent, right? 

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You have to kind of meet some 
guidelines and yeah. 

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There's like a qualifier March 
and I already did that. 

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It was like a 20 mile ruck for 
time and I did that. 

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This is the first year I've had 
to qualify because I've done it 

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for five years now. 
This will be my fifth year, I 

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guess. 
Yeah, that'll be good. 

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It'll be cool to see Jamie and 
Ben and Joe and Jonathan because

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they're all prep doing our show 
and they're all dieting down 

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too, so it'll be cool to see how
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of the journey. 
Getting close man 14 weeks down 

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for my show. 
Yep, that's going to be awesome.

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Yeah, it'll be here. 
For you and some of the guys are

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girls. 
Guys and girls are doing shows a

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couple weeks prior right from 
here anyways. 

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Yeah, Ralph is. 
Ellen's doing my show. 

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Oh, I thought she was. 
Going to do 1 prior to. 

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Also, Ellen Ellen's first show 
will be my show. 

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So Ralph is doing yeah, Ralph 
will do it. 

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And then Joe will do that same 
show too, so. 

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Joe Davis. 
OK. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So if you're here for that, that

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would be great, 'cause I'm 
speaking at a conference that 

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weekend, so I'll miss Ralph's 
first show, which I hate. 

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Well, there's an OCB show in 
Minneapolis that weekend, the 

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13th of September, which is 2 
weeks prior to your show. 

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And I thought about doing that 
one. 

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I'm, it's still kind of up in 
the air, but I'd have to take 

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several days off from work here,
the drive back up to Minneapolis

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and then the expenses like they 
add up. 

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You know, you got hotel, you 
have tanning, you have 

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registration, you have 
federation fees, you have 

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photography packages, travel, 
all that kind of stuff. 

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So I'm thinking maybe I would 
just go spectate Ralph and Joe 

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cuz that's local here. 
I can just drive to that for the

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day. 
Yeah, it's in hot spring, so 

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it's like a couple hours and 1/2
hours away. 

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So I might just do that and then
just really, really, really 

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focus on your show and not worry
about trying to dial in a peak 

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week two weeks prior. 
Yeah, I feel like if you're 

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doing because James with AI, 
he's going to be, he's competing

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in several shows this year and 
he was like, man, should I do 

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this one? 
Should I not do this one? 

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I'm like, if you got a two week 
break in between, you can make 

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it work. 
But if you're doing like 1:00 

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every single week, that's hard 
because then like you're 

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changing your training intensity
the week of peak week. 

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And if you have multiple peak 
weeks consecutively, like you're

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not really getting any intense 
training in and then you're 

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going to be at risk of losing 
links. 

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Well, you want that stimulus 
too, if you want a little bit of

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intensity. 
For sure for. 

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Sure. 
So we will see. 

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We will see. 
By the way, you still got a lot 

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of shows lined up. 
A lot of shows. 

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We got a shipping container. 
Yeah, it's a parking lot. 

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Yeah. 
So I feel like we're moving up 

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in the road and we got a 
shipping container. 

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That means we're preppers, 
right? 

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Every preppers got a shipping. 
Container. 

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We're going to fill it with 
bricks. 

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Thousands of bricks. 
That's just one big. 

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Brick 1. 
Brick, Brick. 

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They wouldn't, they would not 
last if we put them in there. 

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Yeah, not for like 10 minutes, 
but I'm excited about that 

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because we're getting all of the
packaging supplies that we don't

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use on a regular basis, moving 
all those to the shipping 

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container, freeing up a lot of 
floor space here in the 

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building. 
So we can just get organized, 

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you know, have room to grow 
further and be more efficient in

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our workflow. 
Well, we have a ton of 

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ingredients. 
We are not slacking on 

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ingredients right now. 
Yeah, we just got in 900 

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kilograms. 900 kilograms. 
Protein. 

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For Primal Fudge. 
Primal Fudge, It's going to be 

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the biggest restock of Primal 
Fudge we've ever. 

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Actually, it's a double batch. 
It's literally twice as much as 

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we've ever made. 
But it's not happening this 

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month in June. 
So don't hold your breath, 

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listeners. 
That's going to be happening 

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soon. 
Yes, we had. 

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Probably safe to say it's not 
happening in August either. 

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Probably safe to say that. 
So you do the math on that one. 

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Yeah, I'm excited about that. 
And it's super hot right now, 

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especially in Arkansas. 
It's like the bricks are for 

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sure melting in the packages 
depending on where they're 

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shipping to. 
But if any of you are listening,

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we're in the process of 
transitioning all of our flavors

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over to that heavier packaging, 
and that should totally mitigate

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against risk of it leaking 
through. 

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So if you get them and they're 
melted, just throw them in the 

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fridge. 
You're good to go. 

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We've got a few PB cup, toasted 
almond and mocha in the old 

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packaging still, but those are 
almost depleted and then we have

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the new film, so everything's 
going to be thicker packaging 

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pretty much go forward. 
That thicker packaging too, we 

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have to to slow down our 
wrapping process so that it has 

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time to heat seal. 
Because of the thickness, if we 

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ran it through at our standard 
rate, it wasn't sealing quite 

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the right way. 
So. 

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And somebody was emailed and 
said hey why don't y'all send 

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cold packs anymore? 
The thing is, like the cold 

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packs, those are super expensive
and we didn't charge more for 

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them and. 
And they were still melting. 

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Yeah, half the time they were 
still melting. 

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So it's like, doesn't really 
make sense for us to spend money

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on coal packs if they're still 
melting when they get there and 

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leaking. 
Let's just spend twice as much 

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on the film that we're using. 
So the film that we're using is 

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literally twice as thick and 
significantly more secure. 

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And that way there's just no 
risk of it leaking through. 

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And half the problem is once 
they leave our facility, we have

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no control. 
Yeah, and we send them out. 

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They're they're frozen when we 
send them out. 

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And as soon as they leave our 
hands, they might end up sitting

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in a post office or a UPS truck 
or, you know, and who knows how 

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ungodly hot those UPS trucks 
get. 

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Probably about that shipping 
container. 

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Probably. 
I mean, they're 100, 25130° 

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probably or hotter and cold 
packs don't do anything in that 

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environment. 
So but a brick that's been 

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refrigerated and then eaten. 
It's pretty freaking good. 

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It is those tallow ones. 
I honestly prefer the tallow. 

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Ones, they are so good out of 
the refrigerator 'cause they're 

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not any, they're not hard bite. 
They're not too hard to bite. 

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The cacao I definitely prefer at
room temp, but like the tallow 

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ones I prefer fresh out the 
fridge. 

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I've got a chunk of cake pop in 
the fridge for me today. 

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So, so you're having what? 
What are your meals right now? 

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I actually just made kind of 
like these little breakfast 

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bowls. 
Let me just pull up my good old 

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chronometer here. 
I did some scrambled eggs and 

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some pork sausage, bacon, 
chicken sausages, grass fed 93.7

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beef, butter and some salt. 
And I'm going to sprinkle a 

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little bit of hot sauce, 
sprinkle in a little bit of that

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pickle de Gallo and a quarter of
a Belle's brownie and a quarter 

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of a carnivore cake pop. 
Nice. 

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There's a little market that 
just opened up. 

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They're open in like the summer 
months. 

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Is that the one on the corner 
here? 

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Not not Apple Town. 
OK, there's one like when you're

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going towards my house, Lincoln 
Cane Hill Rd. area, there is a, 

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there's like a little boutique 
market and they do all their 

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growing and everything right 
there on the same site. 

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But they make this salsa that's 
really good. 

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Crystal just bought some, but 
they're only open on like 

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Fridays and Saturday morning I 
think. 

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But their salsa is real. 
I like a good salsa. 

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Yeah, I'm pretty particular on 
my salsa, so it's it's good. 

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So I'd recommend that stuff 
because it's local. 

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So you're supporting local 
community? 

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And you know, it's going to be 
probably clean ingredients. 

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I'm not going to add sugar and 
seed oils. 

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Yeah, for sure. 
How's everything? 

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Personal life with the Prep. 
Stressful. 

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Stressful. 
Sleep is a little bit wonky. 

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Relationship status is a little 
bit wonky. 

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A little wonky. 
Yep, just overall stress. 

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I mean, when you get that far 
into a deficit for that long of 

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a time frame, it messes with 
your mind. 

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Do you think? 
Emotional. 

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Stressful, you know, mental. 
This is where the mental. 

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Aspect really kicks in 100%. 
The sleep is definitely impacted

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because of the prep. 
Do you think the relationship is

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impacted because of the prep? 
It may have been a little bit, 

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but we had a pretty decent heart
to heart, deep conversation 

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about a whole lot of things and 
kind of just decided that it was

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better that we went two 
different directions at this 

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time of no, no remorse, no 
hateful thoughts, no dislike, no

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bad feelings. 
But it doesn't help, especially 

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when you're in a prep. 
When you're depleted, you're 

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kind of a little bit oranges by 
default. 

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Fuse is shorter. 
Fuse is a little bit shorter 

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unintentionally, but part of the
game I guess. 

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Part of the mentality of it. 
It is hard on relationships. 

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Like Crystal's a freaking Angel,
man. 

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Like, I don't know, like the 
stuff I put her through when I'm

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in prep. 
I was really good this last go 

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round, but even with me being 
really good, like I was sleeping

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in a different bed for like the 
last three or four months of 

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prep. 
And like we were just travelling

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non-stop and she was prepping 
all my meals. 

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And like, I'd go to a gym and 
spend two or three hours in the 

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gym working out, doing cardio, 
posing while on the road while 

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she's wrangling Rigel in a 
vehicle for three hours, you 

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know, like. 
What a, what a saviour. 

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Yeah, I got it. 
You got to have good people in 

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your corner that are supportive 
of what you're doing because I 

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mean, it is a selfish sport in 
that regard. 

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Like it's you're doing a lot of 
things and it's not really easy 

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for anybody that's in your inner
circle. 

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So like if they're not on the 
same page as it could be taxing.

450
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,840
It's very time consuming. 
Yeah, you know, you're obsessed 

451
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,480
with measuring all your food. 
You're obsessed with grocery 

452
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:02,400
shopping, meal prepping. 
The timing of everything. 

453
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,160
The timing of everything you 
gotta dial in your posing, your 

454
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,960
cardio, there's a lot to it. 
It's not just you can't just 

455
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,560
wing it, especially as you get 
closer and closer and closer and

456
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,880
the details are more and more 
relevant. 

457
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:22,000
Are you at the stage now where 
you're like mentally running 

458
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,280
through all of the things you 
have to do in a day and trying 

459
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,760
to do it as efficiently as 
possible so that you're not 

460
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,880
depleting any more energy than 
is necessary? 

461
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,240
I'm a post it note, a post it 
note guy. 

462
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,440
Yeah, so I will, I will 
literally hash out or put it in 

463
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,240
my phone and just say, OK, 
here's what I have to do today. 

464
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:40,160
Here's the order of events. 
Here's kind of the priority. 

465
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,200
And I typically line them up in 
the order that they have to 

466
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,000
occur. 
So even as even there's just the

467
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,400
stupid stuff, it helps to kind 
of get it out of my mind and 

468
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,400
organize it if I get it out of 
the mishmash that's in my brain 

469
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,480
and put it out on either on 
paper or into like a calendar 

470
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,640
appointment or A to do list. 
So like, walk the dogs, you 

471
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,320
know, take a shower, head to the
gym, eat my meal, blah blah 

472
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:07,000
blah, you know, and just hash it
out so that I don't have to 

473
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,160
think about it when time comes. 
I'd say man is as taxing as that

474
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,680
is, it's kind of liberating to 
just feel so freaking dialed 

475
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:21,080
because like when you are not in
a prep, it's easy to just kind 

476
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,560
of like flail about. 
And I think, you know, I'm so 

477
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,840
rigid in just my day-to-day with
the business stuff that I pretty

478
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,280
much live in prep monk mode at 
all times. 

479
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,280
Even when I'm not in prep, I'll 
have a little bit more 

480
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,000
flexibility for sure, but I'm 
still like, you know, training 

481
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,360
every day, running every day. 
Like I'm just very regimented in

482
00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:40,800
my day-to-day actions. 
But like before I got that way, 

483
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,240
like year long, I would just 
yearn to be back in the prep 

484
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:48,520
because I felt so much more 
efficient with my life. 

485
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,720
Like everything, it just had a 
place, had a purpose. 

486
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,120
There was a goal that was 
defined and every single day I 

487
00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,040
was chipping away towards it in 
some form or fashion. 

488
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,880
Had routines. 
Yeah, routines. 

489
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,640
You just knew what was next. 
Because if you don't have that, 

490
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,760
then it's like your your mind is
filled with all this, you know, 

491
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,200
emptiness of like, what do I 
want to do now? 

492
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,560
I'm bored. 
What should I do now? 

493
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:12,040
Maybe I should do here, there. 
It's just like unproductive, you

494
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,800
know, inefficient hate, 
inefficiencies. 

495
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,960
Yep, totally agreed. 
So no bueno make. 

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,000
Use of all the time. 
All the time, all the time. 

497
00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:24,320
What else is new, brother? 
I know I can't like today after 

498
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,360
this podcast, Crystal's coming 
in and we're going to record a 

499
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:30,560
podcast with her on 3rd 
trimester because today is her 

500
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,440
technical due date. 
Oh yeah. 

501
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,320
I don't know if I should have 
said that on air, but it is. 

502
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,400
Well, this will air. 
On Friday after today, so yeah. 

503
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600
There might be a baby, there 
might be a baby on board. 

504
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,120
There may be a. 
Sticker on your truck? 

505
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:46,600
After today, who knows? 
I never got the baby on board 

506
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,880
stickers. 
We'll get you 1. 

507
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,480
We'll get me one. 
OK, Bricks on board. 

508
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,360
Yeah, baby embrace. 
But yeah, I'm excited about 

509
00:24:54,360 --> 00:24:55,160
that. 
That'd be good. 

510
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,040
I'm excited to see Rigel's 
interactions with the baby. 

511
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,640
Is he excited? 
He's super. 

512
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,800
Excited, but like he thinks. 
He doesn't know, really. 

513
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,760
He won't know until he. 
Yeah, I mean, he's like, I'm 

514
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,760
going to play with it. 
I'm going to read him books. 

515
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,320
I'm going to share my toys. 
I'm like, that all sounds great,

516
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:11,720
buddy. 
But like, this baby is going to 

517
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,040
be, you know, a lump of flesh, 
you know, cuddled up in a. 

518
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,040
It's not going to be your own it
for a while, mowing the lawn 

519
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,720
with you quite yet. 
Yeah, not quite yet, but close. 

520
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,080
It'll be good. 
It'll be good. 

521
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,840
The crew is doing pretty solid 
with their prep. 

522
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,120
I feel absolutely. 
Ralph's looking dialed in. 

523
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,200
Ralph. 
Like when we're going through 

524
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,920
our poses like we just got done 
doing before recording this, 

525
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,760
Like Ralph definitely his 
physique, but I feel like if we 

526
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,040
brought his legs up, he would be
a pretty competitive and 

527
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:46,920
classic, too. 
Oh. 

528
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,000
Yeah, for sure. 
But his? 

529
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,800
Zipper leg developments just 
lacking. 

530
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:54,120
He's just got like that that 
farmer build, you know, like 

531
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:58,160
just hard, actual honest work, 
you know, like you just, you 

532
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:02,560
just naturally muscular because 
you just been throwing bales and

533
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,160
stuff, you know. 
I've honestly been amazed at how

534
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,200
open and receptive he's been at 
62 years old to be like, you 

535
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,480
think I could do a show? 
And then he's just like, I'm 

536
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,080
going to do it. 
And then he just grabs it and 

537
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,400
goes for it. 
It's pretty sweet. 

538
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,120
I wish more people would be like
that. 

539
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:20,560
Not necessarily for competing or
doing shows or even like 

540
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,040
physical fitness, but he's so 
receptive. 

541
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,200
He's so. 
I mean, how many like older 

542
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,520
guys, you know, they're like 
stuck in their ways. 

543
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,440
Oh, that's stupid. 
I'm not going to do that. 

544
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,360
Like I got no desire to prove 
anything or get up on stage and 

545
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,360
be judged in posing trunks. 
It's like Ralph's freaking 

546
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:39,640
killing him, you know? 
And he came in with that first. 

547
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,480
He came to that show a couple 
weeks ago of Joe's and he, I 

548
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,000
think it really opened his eyes 
and his wife's eyes. 

549
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,840
Like his wife was there too, so 
she's supportive and on board 

550
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,280
and she's doing keto. 
I forget how much weight she's 

551
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,760
down, but she's lost quite a 
bit. 

552
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,920
With keto feeling good, losing 
weight. 

553
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,760
Yeah, that's, that's the coolest
thing for me. 

554
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,320
You know, like, and we can't 
think about this in the meeting 

555
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,280
the other day yesterday, but 
it's like, I want to build 

556
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:06,040
something here that is as big as
it can possibly be, but never 

557
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,040
moves away from our integrity or
overall mission. 

558
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,080
And I want to like, it's always 
be a positive for our crew. 

559
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,360
And I feel like we are so 
freaking connected. 

560
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840
And there's so many businesses 
that just don't have that man. 

561
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,560
Like they just are disconnected 
from the workforce, like the the

562
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,640
team members. 
And I don't know, man, like I 

563
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,720
would happily leave money on the
table and sacrifice that to be 

564
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,920
able to have an awesome 
relationship and be excited to 

565
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040
come into work every day. 
Yeah, So agreed. 

566
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,600
Can't put a price on that. 
Nope, that's I gave up. 

567
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,000
Stressful, kind of less 
fulfilling work environment back

568
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,680
home. 
Yep, came here. 

569
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:47,200
You got a new hot rod out there?
I've got a vehicle in the 

570
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,360
parking lot that I am test 
driving overnight. 

571
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Test driving overnight when you 
have to bring it. 

572
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,120
Back I'm bring back after work 
today. 

573
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,360
It's a Lamborghini Gallardo, 
right? 

574
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,440
No, it's a little Kia Stinger, 
but it's it's pretty fun. 

575
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,720
I don't know if it's a necessity
or a wand, but it's definitely 

576
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,200
not a it's definitely not a 
necessity. 

577
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,880
It is pretty slick. 
It is pretty slick. 

578
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,200
It's yeah, we'll see. 
And it's, I mean same brand as 

579
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,200
the other one's a Kia too, right
I. 

580
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Have a Kia K5, same exact color.
My Kia K5 is a GT so it's like 

581
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,760
the little like the higher trim 
level. 

582
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,120
I do like it. 
It's sporty, it's fun, it's kind

583
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:24,120
of sharp looking, get gets 
mileage, blah blah blah. 

584
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,240
Is this thing or get less 
mileage? 

585
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Less mileage. 
This is a turbocharged V6 

586
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,400
all-wheel drive. 
Mine is a turbocharged 4 

587
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,840
cylinder front wheel drive. 
So it's got a little bit more 

588
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:43,320
performance drive to it. 
So the fuel efficiency takes a 

589
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,520
little bit of a dip, which I 
don't drive a whole lot. 

590
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,960
I mean, to and from work and 
then you know, to the gym and 

591
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,560
that kind of stuff. 
So I don't put a ton of miles 

592
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,120
on. 
So that's not a huge factor. 

593
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,960
But it also takes premium gas, 
so there's a bump up. 

594
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,560
Insurance would be higher, 
payment would be higher. 

595
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,800
I don't know. 
I think what we ought to do is 

596
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,120
kill two birds with one stone, 
bro. 

597
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
I'll get that motorcycle that I 
was talking about and I'll get a

598
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,640
little sidecar and you and I can
take turns driving each other 

599
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,200
around in our sidecar and you 
can wear your mullet wig when 

600
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,880
you're in the sidecar. 
And I think that would be a good

601
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,160
look for the both of us as. 
Long as we have huge oversized 

602
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,120
goggles. 
Yeah, yeah, oversized. 

603
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,440
And I'll have to grow my 
mustache out, OK, so I can rock 

604
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,440
that with you two muscled up men
in a car sidecar. 

605
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,520
That would work. 
I believe we would attract the 

606
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,720
wrong type of attention. 
Yeah, Speaking of updates and 

607
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,880
cool things, did we talk about 
the fact we have a shower now? 

608
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,120
We. 
Do have a shower in the 

609
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,000
facility. 
We didn't. 

610
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,440
Mentioned it but it's like done 
now. 

611
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,600
We have we have two bathrooms, 
but we never had like a 

612
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,720
showering yeah option so. 
But we've got like a legit 

613
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,040
shower. 
Yeah, it's super nice and it's 

614
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,160
super cool like I have. 
I appreciate Ralph and Clancy 

615
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,880
for getting that put together 
'cause it looks great. 

616
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
And now we can work out in the 
morning, take a shower, hit the 

617
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,720
day hard and be good to go 
totally fresh. 

618
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:00,800
Being up, I need to take a 
shower. 

619
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,680
You gotta take a shower. 
I do yeah, cuz I waited until we

620
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,120
were done posing. 
Yeah, you gotta do that. 

621
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,320
But that's. 
Have you liked working out here 

622
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,720
since we made that switch? 
Yep, I just gotta get. 

623
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,120
This I do. 
I do, however, like working out 

624
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,480
in an environment where there's 
a lot of other fit people. 

625
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:21,360
I'm not calling you unfit, but I
like to just, you know, I'll be 

626
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,800
surrounded by that vibe and that
energy and that group sense. 

627
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,800
You know, everyone's kind of 
working on themselves and their 

628
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,080
goals. 
Have you gone to J Street when 

629
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,760
it was early? 
I went to J Street last weekend,

630
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,720
Saturday morning at I think it 
was probably eight, 8:00. 

631
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,760
So kind of like into the morning
already. 

632
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,880
Into the morning because that's 
when they're staffed hours 

633
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,800
start. 
So I needed to grab a day pass. 

634
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Because they have a key card, 
right? 

635
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,920
Yeah, it's 24/7 if you remember,
but if you need a day pass you 

636
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,800
have to go during staffed hours.
Because like Ozarks awesome gym,

637
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,960
but we always go at like 5:00 in
the morning. 

638
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,160
There's like and. 
It's always the same same core 

639
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,920
crowd. 
Like, you know, we can pretty 

640
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,160
much predict who's going to be 
in there. 

641
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,600
But at J Street there was, oh 
man, there's like 50 people in 

642
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,120
there on Saturday morning. 
It is it is good getting like a,

643
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,920
you know, rocking vibe. 
Lots of people that are also, I 

644
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,960
mean, when you're the biggest 
fish in a pond, like it's hard 

645
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,480
to stay sharp and motivated and 
like aggressive. 

646
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,680
So it's good to kind of like put
yourself in a position where 

647
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,280
you're not the biggest fish, 
right, You know? 

648
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,120
You're kind of in. 
You're swimming with that school

649
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:28,440
a little. 
Bit yeah, yeah, yeah. 

650
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,160
So I totally, totally get where 
you come from there. 

651
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,320
Like I want that vibe as well. 
I'm probably going to have to. 

652
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,840
So like when Crystal has the 
baby, I need to clear out the 

653
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:41,280
garage because we moved a bunch 
of gym equipment to the garage, 

654
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,160
but like, there's so much junk 
in the garage right now. 

655
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,440
So I got to like get that as a 
functional gym again. 

656
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,640
And then she'll probably work 
out there for the first several 

657
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:55,960
weeks after having the baby and 
depending on what I'm doing then

658
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,880
workload wise, like if I'm stuck
at the house helping her, I 

659
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,760
might be lifting there. 
So I don't know. 

660
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:06,120
But she said like her, her 
sister's here now to help and 

661
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,720
then her dad's coming I think at
some point and then my folks 

662
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,440
will come at some point. 
So she should have plenty of 

663
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,600
help. 
So if I come in to work out with

664
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,040
you here before Rigel wakes up, 
we should still be solid with 

665
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,720
our current routine and. 
I'll probably still hit either 

666
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:25,840
Ozark or J Street on the 
weekends or once a week during 

667
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,400
the middle of the week just to 
get in stair climber and, you 

668
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,160
know, switch it up a little. 
Bit yeah, yeah, that'd be good. 

669
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,960
We can do some parking lot 
lunges here soon, ma'am. 

670
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,480
I was thinking about that the 
other day as I was driving up. 

671
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Like, we haven't done parking 
lot lunges in a while. 

672
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:40,760
We did lunges today with 
dumbbells. 

673
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,560
Yeah. 
I feel like you're kind of in 

674
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,760
that zone where you're like just
checking the boxes for the 

675
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,200
training. 
This morning was a box checking 

676
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880
workout. 
I had pretty minimal intensity, 

677
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:57,560
but I I am sourced if I didn't 
get a super good sleep and some 

678
00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,880
of that is my dogs wake me up. 
Some of that is just things 

679
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,320
going on in my life. 
Some of that is just going to 

680
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,920
bed too late. 
Some, you know, just all the 

681
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,200
shit and that definitely 
influenced my energy levels this

682
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,760
morning. 
So I usually do a pre workout 

683
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,480
and I had a pre workout and had 
a cup of coffee this morning. 

684
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,000
So nothing really changed as far
as my morning. 

685
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,280
But yeah, my intensity was I've.
Fractured your sleep Done now? 

686
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,280
Yeah. 
Is it like significantly taking 

687
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,880
a hint? 
This morning it actually was 

688
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:29,000
better today than it has been in
the last couple days. 

689
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,200
But let me just pull that up 
super quick. 

690
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,720
My sleep score last night was a 
65. 

691
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,160
What is it normally? 
The previous night was 49. 

692
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,760
So not really great. 
Not super good the night before 

693
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,240
that 56, the night before that 
73. 

694
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,560
Not terrible. 
The night before that 31. 

695
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,120
What is your average sleep 
duration? 

696
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:53,240
Does it show you then? 
Oh yeah. 

697
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,960
Actual sleep time 4 1/2 hours 
Actual sleep time five hours 

698
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,720
Actual sleep time 5 hours 29 
minutes 6 hours 5 hours 19 

699
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,680
minutes. 
But up until I'd say the last 

700
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,840
week or so, I was getting way 
more sleep, a little bit longer 

701
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,400
duration, I was feeling well 
rested and then my sleep scores 

702
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,840
were higher. 
You think you're dropping sleep 

703
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,600
acutely here lately is because 
of all the personal terminal. 

704
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,920
Oh yeah, I'm sure that's 
definitely influential. 

705
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,000
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, sleep. 

706
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,520
I don't know man. 
Like for me 7 hours is my sweet 

707
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,239
spot I think and. 
And that's what I used to get. 

708
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,639
I used to actually hit my the 
pillow at 738 o'clock and be up 

709
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,320
at 3:00, so that's a solid, 
decent sleep. 

710
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,199
Yeah, but that doesn't happen 
lately, so. 

711
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,880
And then it just starts 
compounding over enough time and

712
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,880
it's hard to catch up. 
You can't really catch. 

713
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,960
Up and I feel like it becomes 
more and more important yeah, as

714
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,600
you get deeper into a prep and 
closer to show date like you 

715
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,960
just you'd need that sleep, you 
need that recovery because 

716
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:58,000
you're just not getting the 
calories. 

717
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,800
Because you're already, I mean, 
your testosterone's already 

718
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,040
dropping by way of the lower 
calories, lower body fat. 

719
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,480
And if you also tack on little 
sleep, then it's just taking a 

720
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,920
nosedive. 
That's why mine went like 

721
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,760
freaking 89 or whatever it was. 
So yeah, I think like there's a 

722
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,600
couple things that I want to do 
before my next prep to like have

723
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,960
things to just set myself up for
success. 

724
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,640
And figuring out a routine so 
that I'm guaranteed a certain 

725
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,720
block of sleep time is high on 
that list for sure. 

726
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,920
But the stars never aligned. 
Sometimes easier said than dumb.

727
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,960
Definitely easier said than dumb
for sure. 

728
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,560
But that's what I'm going to 
work on this weekend, is my plan

729
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,600
to get some more hiking in. 
Just some extra cardio and 

730
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,360
exertion and sweating. 
Just want to kind of just 

731
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,160
deplete some of that and get 
some sleep. 

732
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,160
Yeah. 
Like even if it's a Saturday or 

733
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,600
Sunday afternoon nap. 
Anything. 

734
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,120
Yep, the big game. 
Just helps with recovery big 

735
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:53,320
time. 
I'm. 

736
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:54,920
Going to take a nap after this 
podcast. 

737
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,000
You can just curl up on the 
futon over there and just go to 

738
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:58,960
sleep. 
I could. 

739
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,720
I'll tuck you in. 
Play a little lullaby. 

740
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,160
Yeah, single lullaby. 
Good deal. 

741
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:07,080
We probably do need to get back 
to it because I've got a client 

742
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000
calling a little bit and then 
Chris and I are gonna record a 

743
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:11,320
podcast. 
Let's be a shorter work episode.

744
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,360
I was listening. 
I don't normally listen to these

745
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:19,080
podcasts but I was listening to 
a podcast then like it finished 

746
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:23,040
and then the next one was ours 
so it started automatically and 

747
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:26,240
I sound weird on the podcast. 
You always sound weird when you 

748
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:29,680
hear yourself yeah in in a 
different context in different 

749
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:31,800
format. 
I don't know if I like the way I

750
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480
sound. 
That's how we all hear you 

751
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,960
though. 
So to, to what you're hearing in

752
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,760
that way is what we hear daily. 
Because I, I, we learned this in

753
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,880
school when I was a kid. 
It's because of the vibe, 

754
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,160
because it goes through your 
brain, through your head, and 

755
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,840
into your ears. 
When you replay it as a 

756
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,720
recording, you're hearing it 
directly into your ears. 

757
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,800
Maybe I think with this 
switchboard mixer thing I can 

758
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,040
make it like a robot voice. 
Oh you want to like auto tune 

759
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,560
it? 
Yeah, yeah, I might auto tune 

760
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,440
mine on the next. 
Day sure like like T pain or 

761
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,240
something. 
Yeah, there you go. 

762
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,600
And we can start each one with a
little intro song of me singing 

763
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,600
with an auto tune. 
T Pain. 

764
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,440
Yeah, that'll be good. 
It'll definitely not get any 

765
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,040
hits. 
All right, man, it's a wrap. 

766
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,200
Let's get to work. 
All right. 

767
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:17,840
Always a pleasure bro and get 
some sleep. 

768
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,400
Thank you, Sir.
