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Hello, ladies and gents Robert 
Sykes ketose a.com. 

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Today I'm get special guest to 
Greg Mueller on the line. 

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Greg is a client of mine. 
We are coaching him through his 

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2023 competition prep, he's 
worked with me in the past. 

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He's earned his Pro card via a 
ketogenic prep protocol. 

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He is also one of the deeper 
State keto coaches and he's 

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honestly just a great friend. 
I had a lot of respect for Greg,

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he's an absolute beast in the 
gym, he's strong, he's been 

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strict keto for 8 years. 
Now he knows what he's doing. 

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He's walking the walk and doing 
it, right? 

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So I've got Got no doubt that 
would take something from this 

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conversation. 
We dive into some of his prep 

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Endeavors. 
We dive into what we're doing, 

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nutritionally speaking with his 
cardio as well. 

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We talked about some of the 
things going on right now in the

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heat of space we talk about 
things. 

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I just ketones a little bit. 
We talked about all kinds of 

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things about the holidays, talk 
about all kinds of good stuff. 

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So without further Ado, sit 
back, relax and do a podcast 

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with my good friend Greg. 
And we are live. 

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Greg, how are you brother and 
good about you? 

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I'm good ma'am. 
Before we hit record, you were 

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talking about how cold it's 
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You said what - 22 degrees? 
Yeah, we actually hit like 22 

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below zero. 
Today are high temp. 

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For today, is supposed to be 
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below zero, and then we've got 
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Stacked up here on end that are 
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So we got kind of little Arctic 
snap going on. 

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Yeah, it's pretty intense man. 
I was it's getting pretty cold 

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here Arkansas but it's not near 
it's still above zero so nothing

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nothing that compares to what 
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Yeah, it's pretty tough. 
I just, I got this cold plunge, 

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I got a stock tanks. 
What I got I got a tuna Dar 

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stock tank from Tractor Supply 
Co and I've been feeling that 

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full of water and just letting 
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which is pretty freaking cold 
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It's like 30s. 
Ali. 

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So the water temperature is like
40 degrees right now. 

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I've been jumping in that every 
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pretty cool man. 
You want to get that going in 

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Minnesota. 
You would not need to add ice. 

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Yeah. 
I've been, you know, a lot of 

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people have been hopping on that
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popular a pretty common. 
Now I'm excited to see what you 

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think of it. 
Once you start going because 

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I've heard it's it's pretty 
shocking until you start to 

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acclimate to it. 
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And you can control your 
breathing and all that there's 

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definitely a lot of popularity 
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of claims as to how effective, 
you know, there's a bunch of you

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know, just conjecture as to what
it's supposed to do. 

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I've seen studies, I've seen, 
I've seen people talk about it, 

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supposedly increasing 
testosterone count. 

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Reducing inflammation make 
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I could totally buy into that 
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I've seen it proposed that it 
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function. 
All this stuff. 

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I don't know how much of that's 
true versus just smoke and 

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mirrors, but one thing that I 
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psychological not physiological 
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When you wake up, first thing in
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dread doing, it just starts the 
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So for that reason alone, I 
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Sure, sure, you, I suppose 
you're forcing yourself to adapt

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and overcome. 
Right. 

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Mmm. 
And I wake up pretty early, it's

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cold. 
Like, I've got like, I sleep 

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with it cold. 
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a hoodie on when I roll out of 
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And the last thing I want to do 
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into a pool of cold water, but 
that's what I've been doing. 

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Crystals been doing it with me. 
It's like we Like, I'll wake up 

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a few hours early make, you 
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on my emails, she'll wake up, 
and then we'll start making our 

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french press coffee, which takes
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you know, steep. 
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cold plunge during that time. 
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with this nice hot cup of coffee
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start the day. 
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I like it rigel probably not 
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Yeah, I was like, I wonder what 
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with the project but that 
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services called on us and 
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So not To be doing that anytime 
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definitely not doing that. 
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But you ought to 100% do it 

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because you've got you got the 
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200 dollar stock tank stick in 
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Minnesota cold aired, you know, 
do its work. 

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Yeah, that's a great idea. 
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Mmm, it's all, you know, him So 
I wanted to get you on a podcast

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and dive into a couple of things
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So you are preparing for a 
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Certainly dive into being talked
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your stance can go super deep 
down that rabbit hole, which you

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probably should. 
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on anything and everything, man.
Like you've been coaching for a 

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while. 
Have to kind of pick your brain 

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as to how being a coach impacts 
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What what are some common 
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You're seeing a month clients. 
What? 

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With? 
Let's pick your brain about the 

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New Year, pick your brain about 
just anything cuz I mean I 

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consider us friends more so than
working client relationship. 

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So it's it's always good to 
chat, man. 

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Yeah, great. 
Let's do it wherever you want to

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start. 
Let's start with the prep. 

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Let me pull up your spreadsheet 
right now. 

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So I have a reference there and 
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Here. 
The show date is when I'm gonna 

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see you on the Slate here for 
May May 13th. 

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I do believe is first one. 
Um, the list. 

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And let's see. and I pull up 
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second, okay, with those to 
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The first one first one that I'm
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in Omaha and you're doing that 
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about. 
Yeah yep. 

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Different divisions in fabulous.
Yep. 

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That's Omaha Heartland classic. 
That is a natural and am BF. 

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I don't know if that one's got a
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That was May 13th, right? 
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It's Pro. 
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be cool to snatch another Pro 
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What's the one on the May 27th? 
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Natural Minnesota in the Metro 
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And that's a pretty big one. 
That's that's a pro car or a pro

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pro show, natural show. 
Those are different sentences 

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there, right? 
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May 13th, you would not be able 
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or they same Federation. 
I think they're same Federation.

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Yeah, Nan BF + IP. 
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Pro nice. 
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yam and if you can, if you can 
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they compete in the Pro class on
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awesome. 
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this by you or not mr. 
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I've there's also potential of 
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I like you did not read that 
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spreadsheet. 
Where's that one in Colorado? 

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It's a brand new show, it's a 
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States, but bodybuilding 
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it's brand-new sure. 
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the first year. 
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few other USB, F shows recently 
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With a lot of the head honchos. 
They're actually it was their 

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National the main huge Show 
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like almost 70,000 dollars in 
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the area. 
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These guys are just starting 
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I think, Colorado Springs, 
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well, what the heck? 
If I'm already and in dialed in,

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we might as well stick another 
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Yeah. 
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close together as possible. 
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like six weeks eight weeks after
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tricky. 
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all into one one block, that's 
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Yeah I agree because you're kind
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You're really just kind of 
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having three Peak weeks. 
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a cut down for a show and then 
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Six-week lull between shows like
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grow? 
Do you cut? 

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What do you do? 
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Like that is, it's kind of hard 
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heavy training days because you 
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the heavy training before the 
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So, like, if you were to do the 
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can lift heavy on Sunday, 
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kind of like, go into Peak Week 
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that, maybe cycle things through
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heavy the week prior, just like,
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next week on that Sunday Monday 
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Sure, sure. 
So, that's, that would be what I

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would advocate for there. 
But, yeah, I think doing, you 

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know, three shows in three 
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Back-to-back-to-back makes all 
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Yeah, I know some people that 
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know, 10 or 12 shows in one year
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that's crazy. 
I'm not sure how they let their 

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Bounce back ends up being after 

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that type of a deficit and that 
much torture. 

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Yeah, I mean that's a long time 
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too long ago and she did 
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that many shows, but she had 
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she had to put her first 
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She did the virtual show because
it covid and then she had a 

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pretty good little low between 
that and First, you know, in 

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person show, so it wasn't 
multiple shows, but it's kind of

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that same concept of having that
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stepping on stage, and it 
definitely is tricky when you're

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trying to stay down then for 
extended period of time. 

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Like then. 
Yeah, for sure. 

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You turn to swing the pendulum 
that many times in a row. 

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Yeah, definitely definitely 
definitely. 

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But I'm super excited about your
prep. 

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You are we started at 220 pounds
and thirty-four hundred calories

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the last prep that We did in see
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prior was starting in March, 20 
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You were at 210 pounds here. 10 
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then 30 or 300 calories. 
It's a little bit lower on the 

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intake as well, but I feel like 
we've got plenty of time. 

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We started this on November 7th 
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season, so I feel like we got 
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then, yeah, we've been rocking 
for about what that five or six 

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weeks give or take. 
And so I feel like we've got a 

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nice long. 
When we can gradually do things 

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without being too drastic on the
front end and then just kind of 

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come coasting down in. 
Yeah, and we've been pretty 

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aggressive with your drop in 
calories since we started a 

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little bit higher like right now
where this is the start of the 

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seventh week actually. 
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So I'm just under 29, 28 to 29 
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now 2825 or galleries and you're
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Roughly Yeah, yep. 
So we'll stay angry. 

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I was go ahead. 
Now, what were you saying? 

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I was just gonna say, I was 
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than when we first started, I 
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226, kind of in the offseason. 
So and then, as of this morning,

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I'm coming in right around to 
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So really from the offseason, 
the top of the curve, I'm down 

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about 10 pounds, so nice. 
Yeah, that's has your hunger 

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right now. 2,800 calories. 
It's fine. 

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I was expecting to kind of get 
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there, but it's so far, it's 
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So I'm going to just kind of 
write it out because I know 

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that's going to change. 
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I feel like a lot of people when
they, when they start cutting, 

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they'll get like an initial bump
in hunger as they start dipping 

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into a deficit, then their body 
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slow down a little bit their 
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then it reared its ugly head. 
Ferociously once it starts 

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getting really low but there's 
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there and in between it seems 
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you probably do too but I can 
kind of feel that things are 

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burning and churning internally 
but it's not quite a full blown 

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sensation of hunger. 
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It's just kind of like you can 
almost feel and sense that your 

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metabolism is just on fire. 
Yeah. 

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You just feel that you're not at
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certainly a It comes with that, 
right? 

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Exactly. 
So I'm excited man like I'm you 

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know, I'm working with you and 
working with band. 

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I'm working with several people 
that are prepping for a show in 

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the spring and I'm doing a show 
in the fall so I haven't started

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my prep yet, but I think I'm 
going to actually start. 

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I'm going to start prepping in 
January, not at a caloric 

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deficit. 
I'm just going to be incredibly 

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rigid with my building macros 
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year so I can get that dialed 
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Before I actually start dropping
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Sure, makes sense. 
Because I don't know about you, 

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but when I'm in the offseason, I
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I did this offseason just kind 

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of see how much of the envelope 
I could push as far as how high 

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I can go with with calories just
to kind of see and play around 

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and experiment with my with my 
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And so I was probably creeping 
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day somewhere in there at the 
peak of things, just just kind 

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of monitor, my weight monitor, 
my Hunger monitor my lifting but

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yeah, I think next off, Reason, 
I think I'm going to do what 

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you're doing, just eat 
intuitively and you know when 

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you're hungry or when you're 
hungry, you eat, and when you're

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you're not hungry, you don't 
have to eat. 

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Yeah. 
Like all all track my macros, 

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you know, very strictly 
throughout the reverse that 

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portion and I'll kind of go as 
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I'll dip into that Surplus for 
sure. 

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So I kind of see what that upper
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down from that, let my body 
regulate and then I pretty much 

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stopped tracking from that point
until I start gearing up for 

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another prep. 
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a couple spot checks and I'll 
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2 throughout the building phase.
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phase, the main thing for me is 
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hard training, heavy eating at a
caloric Surplus and consuming 

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enough protein. 
And if I'm checking all those 

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boxes I don't really obsess 
about what my actual exact macro

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intake is sure. 
Yep. 

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As long as you're getting 
enough. 

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Yep. 
Yeah. 

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Which honestly for me is the 
hard part, like I have a 

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tendency to under eat if left to
my own devices. 

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So there's opposed to overeat. 
Yeah, same here. 

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That's kind of why I started 
tracking little in the offseason

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is just because I wanted to make
sure I was getting enough and 

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not setting myself up for a 
slowed down metabolism. 

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Yeah hundred percent but I've 
been tracking here lately and 

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I'm steadily over 3,000 calories
in my weights. 

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Holding pretty stable at 180 
181, so I feel like I'm in a 

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good position to start the prep.
Wow. 

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Yeah, you're going to pretty 
strong metabolism going. 

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Well, you I mean you were up 
what Thirty to thirty five 

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hundred several days in your 
weight was Holding relatively 

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stable at that intake, wasn't 
it? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah it was and you can 

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versatile mean body weight. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
That's true. 

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That's true. 
I do have a, you got 40 pounds 

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on my roughly the rats, right? 
Yeah. 

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So you've been able to eat what 
you're eating. 

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You got a pretty hardcore Rock 
and Metabolism. 

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Yeah, it's those those key to 
Bricks man. 

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I can put that one of those a 
day and I call it good. 

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And then I have I've been in the
one thing I was actually just 

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having lunch with my crew before
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that we will meal prep for the 
week for In like we'll all pitch

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in 25 bucks every week and then 
we'll Crystal. 

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Now, go buy a ton of meat at a 
local Meat Market will cook for 

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them and they'll just eat that 
every single day of the week and

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one of my employees Josiah. 
He's all about tracking macros 

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to and it's crazy man. 
Like some of these macro 

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trackers they just there's so 
much variance like you will go 

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crazy if you try to like 
actually get exact numbers 

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because it's impossible. 
You can look up a 20 ground beef

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which you would think is a 
pretty Universal measurement. 

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And you can get vastly 
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recommendations for what. 
That actually consists of 

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nutritional was so you really 
got to just, you know, hit an 

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average and keep things 
consistent, and then just stay 

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on par with that and let those 
averages work out over time. 

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Yep, I agree with you but I feel
like a lot of people that's 

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that's oftentimes. 
A lot of people go ride. 

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They try and obsess over getting
everything so accurate and they 

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don't eat Foods, consistently 
like people that change their 

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food every single day. 
And they're kind of flying by 

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the flexible dieting, It Fits 
your Macros, or poach with 

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foods. 
That would be really hard to do 

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if you're eating real food. 
Like if you're eating all 

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packaged foods that have a label
on them and they're all weighed 

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out and measured out relatively 
consistently. 

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I can see that being a little 
bit easier but if you're 

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consuming you know just single 
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case, it kind of depends on the 
local butcher. 

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How much fat cap is on your 
ground beef, our steaks, it's 

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going to be a lot harder to go 
by A flexible dining approach if

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you're changing your meals every
single day. 

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Yeah, it's, you know, especially
with like a cut of steak because

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you could have two Ribeyes both 
10 ounces apiece and those could

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be so far from each other just 
because of the fat content that 

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it's not really, it's not a 
Straight Arrow. 

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Yeah. 100%. 
I'm working on this course right

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now and I'm filming this 
section. 

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It's all about, you know, just 
staying consistent with foods 

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and I feel like that's something
that that I've always done with 

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my perhaps. 
That's something that Do 

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something that Jen does. 
And I feel like the more you 

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just simply throw away the 
variables, prep your meals, stay

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consistent with it, like that 
single Factor, right? 

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There is probably the single 
greatest thing you can do to 

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solidify success with the cut as
opposed to anything else. 

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I would imagine. 
Yep. 

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For sure, in the next thing 
about Aikido Judo competition 

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prep is it doesn't really change
my food selection at all, is 

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versus what I mean? 
In the offseason and what I'm 

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eating on a prep protocol or a 
cut, the choices are the same. 

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It's just the amount of each 
food. 

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And also, it's not like you have
to completely throw away what 

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you're used to eating and go for
a chicken rice and broccoli, six

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meals a day steamed with no 
seasoning. 

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It's, you know, I still eat 
bacon, eggs cheese, Dairy, heavy

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cream. 
It's all the same stuff that I 

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enjoy eating and it's super easy
to stay consistent because it's 

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literally what works and what I 
enjoy. 

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Yeah. 
I think that's huge, man. 

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I feel like people they don't 
Take note of that, very 

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important factor. 
Because mean, when you feel like

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you're sacrificing something or 
depriving yourself, it's going 

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to amplify the likelihood of you
deviating and just not finding a

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sustainable. 
If you're literally eating the 

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exact same Foods in the 
competition prep, as you are in 

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the offseason, then you don't 
feel like you're missing out on 

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anything and you're much more 
likely to just stick with it. 

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That that is so huge to, because
I remember just this last season

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or even helping out at some 
shows recently backstage were 

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all the competitors. 
Obviously, we're very very 

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Arrived and very, very cut and 
dry and what they could eat and 

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what they couldn't during their 
prep especially peak week and 

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there was just tables filled 
with candy and cupcakes and 

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cookies and just you know, 
really terrible Foods just 

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jammed with sugar and they were 
drooling over those and going 

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for them like crazy because, you
know, it's that deprivation that

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you experience to where you 
can't have anything that you 

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enjoy or really satisfy 
satisfies you during prep. 

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So you just deviates. 
Hard after the show and then you

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get sick and you have a all this
repercussion going on internally

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and it's just bad. 
Yeah, I'm I mean that's what I 

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did my first show, man. 
I put on like literally 20 

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pounds overnight when I did all 
that and you're absolutely 

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right. 
I saw so many I've seen so many 

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just like backstage screenshots 
and like Instagram stories of 

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these, these different venues 
and they'll have this table with

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all these cookies and brownies 
and cakes and sugary you know, 

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Foods waiting. 
For the competitors after show 

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is over and I don't want to, you
know, come across pretentious or

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high and mighty your 
holier-than-thou, but I feel 

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like that is that's that's just 
stupid. 

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Like that is literally like 
that's not sending the right 

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message, that's not a healthy 
message that isn't good for the 

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competitors, it's not good at 
all. 

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So, I feel like that, I mean, I 
don't know that we'll ever stop 

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by. 
It's just kind of like the norm 

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right now, but I am certainly 
not a fan of that, that type of,

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you know, reward system. 
Yeah, same here. 

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I remember when I did some 
shows, back in 2013, Before I 

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ever adopt a keto and so I did 
the traditional prep protocol 

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and carb cycling in the water 
depletion and all that, same 

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exact thing we were bonding, you
know, like sugary Jam or honey 

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and a rice cake backstage and 
then after the show everyone 

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went out to eat and you just had
just a bunch of garbage food and

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I remember I think it was 
probably 25 or 30 pounds. 

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I ended up laying that following
week and I got so sick that 

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night after the competition that
I was in my hotel room throwing 

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up. 
I mean I was at the toilet just 

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because I overindulge so hard 
and I don't have any craving to 

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do that with the ketogenic prep.
It's crazy. 

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Like the only thing that I crave
after a show is going out and 

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getting a nice steak with the 
hunk of butter on it. 

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Yeah yeah I feel like you know I
think there's certainly some 

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benefits from a hormonal 
standpoint. 

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There's benefits from muscle 
retention standpoint from a 

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strength aspect. 
I think there's so many benefits

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that come with a strict 
containing protocol versus that 

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of Additional 
carbohydrate-based, protocols, 

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but if you were to take all of 
them, throw it out the window 

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and just simply approach it from
a psychological standpoint when 

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it comes to the food reward 
system, dopamine receptors in 

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your brain, what you find 
sustainable, what you feel like 

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you're depriving yourself from 
that alone, makes the prep 

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protocol worthwhile in my 
opinion. 

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Like if I can go through a prep 
not feel like I'm sacrificing, 

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certain food groups and then not
feel like I have to over-consume

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them afterwards. 
The likelihood of being trapped 

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in some form of disordered 
eating cycle. 

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After a prep is going to be 
significantly reduced and I 

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think that is what people should
strive to achieve post-show. 

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Yep. 100%, big time. 
That's, that's the winning 

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ticket right there. 
But I digress, talking about 

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00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,300
your strength and performance so
far, man, like you've not 

450
00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:36,900
dropped calories. 
We haven't dropped calories 

451
00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:39,100
drastically since you started, 
but if you noticed any different

452
00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:43,400
performance or strength at all, 
no actually I've been hitting. 

453
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,200
With almost every single workout
I do. 

454
00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:50,900
So obviously that's the goal is 
to just train with the intent of

455
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:55,900
getting PR's or in upping the 
intensity or the training volume

456
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,300
each time. 
You're at the gym and it's been 

457
00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:01,700
awesome. 
I'm surprised that things have 

458
00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:03,900
been going as well as they have.
I know that they want 

459
00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:08,400
necessarily stay like that but 
I'm going to just assume that 

460
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,200
they are and I'm just going to 
strive for it. 

461
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,500
So, so far so good. 
I think you can certainly Expect

462
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,300
PRS for the next. 
I don't know month. 

463
00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:20,400
Probably. 
And then after that, if you're 

464
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,800
able to just simply maintain the
the strength and that the way 

465
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,500
that you pull and push it now, 
that's a huge win because like a

466
00:23:26,508 --> 00:23:28,700
lot of people start seeing that 
drop off quite a bit. 

467
00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:30,500
So if you're able to Simply 
maintain the same level of 

468
00:23:30,500 --> 00:23:32,900
intensity you are now then then 
you're way ahead of the game. 

469
00:23:33,500 --> 00:23:34,400
Yep. 
That's the goal. 

470
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,000
Yep, one just preserving. 
If don't if you don't use it you

471
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,300
lose it. 
So I'm just going to hit it 

472
00:23:39,300 --> 00:23:42,100
hard. 100% what about 
supplementation, man? 

473
00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:43,200
What kind of supplements you 
taking? 

474
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,100
Pretty boring man, just 
electrolytes every single day, 

475
00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,000
couple scoops of that when I was
in the form of their pre 

476
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:55,500
workout. 
I use Redmond relight creatine 

477
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:59,500
monohydrate 5 to 8, grams a day,
just plain unflavored. 

478
00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:04,300
Micronized white powder, 
creatine and then the occasional

479
00:24:04,900 --> 00:24:09,100
dose of kinetic, but I'll 
probably, I'll probably start 

480
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:12,000
letting that. 
It's kind of phase out just 

481
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,100
because I don't want to be 
relying on kinetic as we get 

482
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,100
closer. 
So you feel a difference with 

483
00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,000
it. 
Yeah, man. 

484
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,100
When I add that to my 
pre-workout, I can definitely 

485
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:25,000
tell that that helps and your. 
You feel pretty confident? 

486
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,500
Not placebo. 
I don't think so nice. 

487
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:32,400
That's yeah, yeah. 
So I'm a huge fan of that. 

488
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,600
That's about it really. 
I'm drinking the Frank from 

489
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,300
Quito named Sammy. 
The snake water. 

490
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:42,400
Have you tried that yet? 
Oh no yeah he messaged me he was

491
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000
going to shoot some stuff. 
My direction I think so I'm not 

492
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,400
sure what he's saying but how is
it? 

493
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,200
It's pretty funny man. 
Like he made he made it as like 

494
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,700
a like as a joke kind of but 
it's pretty good. 

495
00:24:52,700 --> 00:24:54,900
It's called snake water and 
bring labor right now. 

496
00:24:54,900 --> 00:25:00,500
Ketone Esther and nootropics 
It's inconceivable guaranteed to

497
00:25:00,500 --> 00:25:03,600
actually says the world's most 
unbelievable brain, drink, drink

498
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,700
snake water to run, two times 
faster, guaranteed tight, 50% 

499
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:11,900
faster, guaranteed increase IQ 
by 33 points, hit high scores, 

500
00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,500
every time, and then it has a 
little asterisk and says these 

501
00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:19,000
are all exaggerated claims are 
just a joke but it's pretty good

502
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,700
like it's Kat. 
Let's see here. 26 calories, 

503
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,300
it's got ISO, melts your loss, 
I'm assuming As the sweetening 

504
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:31,000
agent in there but it's got the 
Conrad water Ketone Beach. 

505
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:39,400
Be 60% Ketone Esther and the 40%
dbh be Ketone free acid, but 

506
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,100
yeah it's pretty good. 
It's got Steve Young effort in 

507
00:25:41,100 --> 00:25:42,800
there as well. 
Cool. 

508
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,200
So it tastes alright because I 
know some of those some of those

509
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,500
Keystone Asters and drinks are 
kind of raunchy tasting. 

510
00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,100
Yeah this one is not raunch days
actually I kind of like it it's 

511
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:58,300
a little too sweet for my liking
but it's not like a this is 

512
00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:02,100
gross like I was like he's got 
it in like a carbonated drink to

513
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,100
just sip on as opposed to just 
taken as a shot. 

514
00:26:04,100 --> 00:26:07,300
So whenever I get able to sip on
it and not shoot it back then 

515
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:11,800
it's pretty palatable. 
Oh sure, probably probably a 

516
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,100
bigger serving than right? 
The can. 

517
00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:16,900
Yeah, the cane was, it's diluted
enough. 

518
00:26:16,900 --> 00:26:18,800
I mean, that's probably why it 
doesn't taste so bad. 

519
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,600
It's got sure. 
What did you say what? 

520
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,200
I say, three. 
I think it's three grams 

521
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,400
instead. 
More here, three grams of BHP 

522
00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:35,000
but over the can, which is not 
sure what the can is just a 

523
00:26:35,008 --> 00:26:38,100
12-ounce cans. 
So little bit more diluted so 

524
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,400
yeah, but it's palatable. 
It's pretty good. 

525
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,700
Awesome. 
Good good, what about the cardio

526
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:44,000
man? 
I have. 

527
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,900
We been just just going to town 
the cardio, you'd probably doing

528
00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:49,900
what hour and a half, every 
single thing that right hour and

529
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:53,900
a half in the morning and then 
two hours every evening. 7 days 

530
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:54,900
a week? 
No, I'm just kidding. 

531
00:26:54,900 --> 00:26:57,500
I Yeah, we actually Just added 
in cardio. 

532
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,400
Now like I think just last week 
just to 10-minute low-intensity 

533
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,600
could just kind of get the heart
pumping a little bit to 10 

534
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,500
minute sessions. 
And then this week, we up the 

535
00:27:06,500 --> 00:27:10,000
intensity to to 10 minute 
sessions with little bit higher.

536
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,300
Level on the StairMaster. 
Did you miss most a mesh-like? 

537
00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,900
Was, it was it just like a 
family reunions when you get 

538
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:18,300
back on? 
Yeah, yeah. 

539
00:27:18,300 --> 00:27:20,900
We both we both shed a tear when
I hop back on it. 

540
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,600
Yeah, yeah. 
But in the off season, I didn't 

541
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,400
really do any cardio besides 
just kind of Is that I enjoyed 

542
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,900
doing, you know, getting outside
in the summer, doing some hiking

543
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:31,900
biking, walking that kind of 
stuff. 

544
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:35,800
I never really did any cardio 
for the sole reason of 

545
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,800
maintaining or losing weight. 
So it's kind of nice to get back

546
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,000
in. 
Kind of get my heart moving by 

547
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,700
loss, of breath comes quicker 
than I remember, but that's soon

548
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:51,200
to improve as we up the 
intensity week by week. 

549
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:55,000
Yeah, that's that's okey man. 
Like people like using you and I

550
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,800
as an example, you know, I'm 80 
your 220 at the being of the, 

551
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,500
the prep and you, and I are both
consuming well over 3,000 

552
00:28:02,500 --> 00:28:07,900
calories zero cardio, 0 cardio, 
apart from just like hiking and 

553
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:09,500
doing things. 
Like I said, just fun things 

554
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:12,400
outdoors. 
When you take somebody like us 

555
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,100
slowly chip away the calories 
like we are and then gradually 

556
00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:18,000
titrate. 
The cardio up, your body is 

557
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,300
going to be so much more 
responsive to that cardio. 

558
00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:23,000
Whereas if you're someone that's
doing, you know an hour of 

559
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,400
treadmill every single day, 365 
days a year. 

560
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:28,800
Like that. 
Like that's the new base on that

561
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,700
your body just is acclimated to 
like, it's not going to change 

562
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:34,600
anything by doing that. 
Like if you can do minimal 

563
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,100
cardio and then titrate it up 
any little incremental 

564
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:40,700
Improvement or increase in time,
duration, or frequency is going 

565
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,900
to have a pretty profound effect
on your body's composition so 

566
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:48,000
you can have much more Runway to
scale that up as we go big time.

567
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,100
Yeah, like you said, if you, if 
you're consistently doing cardio

568
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,300
day in and day out, or every 
single day, or whatever you like

569
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:59,100
you said, you're In yourself up 
to have that as your Baseline. 

570
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,700
So if you ever deviate from that
amount of cardio or you stop 

571
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,900
doing it for a week, your 
Baseline now just got affected 

572
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:08,500
and you may actually gain weight
by not doing the cardio. 

573
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,500
So hundred percent so backwards.
Yeah. 

574
00:29:12,500 --> 00:29:16,200
We don't want to go backwards 
plus who likes being a slave to 

575
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,400
the treadmill. 
I mean it's just boring. 

576
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,600
Like how do they go for a hike 
on the weekends and call it 

577
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:20,600
good. 
I mean, you want to maintain 

578
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,200
enough cardiovascular health 
that you're not getting winded 

579
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,000
after, you know, three reps of 
squats. 

580
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,100
That's going to negatively 
impact your strength training 

581
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,500
Endeavors, and your ability to 
put on more lean tissue. 

582
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,200
But as long as you're able to 
still function a high rate with 

583
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,500
your strength training, then 
definitely don't overthink the 

584
00:29:36,508 --> 00:29:39,700
cardio in the offseason. 
Yeah, absolutely Bingo. 

585
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,100
What else you got cooking mean 
you get, what? 

586
00:29:43,100 --> 00:29:44,500
What is what is it like in 
Minnesota right now? 

587
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,900
Apart from the weather, you are 
also home inspector. 

588
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:51,100
Are you pretty is home 
inspecting season higher are 

589
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,000
busier than normal are pretty 
average in the winter time 

590
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,100
compared to the rest of the 
year. 

591
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,100
Yes it's a little bit seasonal 
kind of just floats with the 

592
00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:02,700
real estate market activity. 
So this time of the year kind of

593
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,700
around the holiday season here 
it's slows down a little bit 

594
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,000
usually just because there's not
a whole lot of activity going 

595
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,200
on. 
People are traveling or not 

596
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,800
buying houses, Etc. 
But this month is actually been 

597
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,400
pretty busy when I compare it to
the last few December's. 

598
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,900
So, the market Still rocking and
rolling. 

599
00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:24,100
Real estate is still alive. 
That's my primary gig is doing 

600
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:26,200
residential recreational home. 
Inspections. 

601
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,900
So we do around I don't know. 
Seven to ten Home Inspections a 

602
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:35,700
week and take it happens. 
I've got to schedule my own 

603
00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:36,600
time. 
What's up? 

604
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,000
What's your average Step? 
Can't with that type of work. 

605
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,600
Um actually let me look at my 
watch. 

606
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,900
I did one this morning. 
Let's see. 

607
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,000
I got about 48 hundred steps in 
that my morning appointment. 

608
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:55,200
So usually I do one of the 
morning and one of the afternoon

609
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,200
or want just one a day or and 
just depends on to probably 

610
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:00,900
around. 
Need is a thousand a day on 

611
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:03,200
average still? 
Yeah, yeah, probably somewhere 

612
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,300
in there. 
Nice. 

613
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,100
Like man. 
It's pretty cool that you do 

614
00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,700
that. 
I used to be in real estate for 

615
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:12,500
a short period of time and at 
Crystal's Family. 

616
00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:15,000
She's got several family members
that our inspectors and I feel 

617
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,800
that it's a pretty good gig like
you're able to Make your own 

618
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,700
schedule. 
Your flexible and regards to, 

619
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,000
you know, when you do things 
works out, well with your 

620
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,600
training time, I mean, it just 
seems like a pretty solid 

621
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,800
routine. 
It really is. 

622
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,700
Yeah, it's demanding like, you 
know, trying to own and operate 

623
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:33,700
your own business, but you've 
got several of them. 

624
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:37,400
I've just got this one, but, but
the reward is worth it. 

625
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:40,000
You set your own schedule. 
If you need to get out of town, 

626
00:31:40,100 --> 00:31:44,000
do something, short, notice, or 
get out of town, go on a 

627
00:31:44,008 --> 00:31:46,600
vacation or spend some time with
family, friends, whatever. 

628
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,200
Gives you the allows you to do 
that with the freedom, you know,

629
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200
being your own boss. 
So you would about the the 

630
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,700
interest rates continually 
hiking up causing a downplay and

631
00:31:57,700 --> 00:32:00,500
people's desire to purchase home
and then that having a 

632
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:04,100
corresponding effect on home, 
inspections it could I think 

633
00:32:04,100 --> 00:32:06,100
there's always going to be 
people buying and selling houses

634
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:08,400
and stuff though. 
So we will just kind of see what

635
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,200
happens. 
I remember when I first got my 

636
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:12,600
I've got a real estate license 
as well. 

637
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,300
When I first got my license back
in 20 2008 2009. 

638
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,400
The old-timer agents at the 
office remembered that when he 

639
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,600
first got his license, 20, 30 
years prior to that interest 

640
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,100
rates, were 17 18 percent. 
So, I don't think and people 

641
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,400
were still buying houses back 
then, so I don't think we're, 

642
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,600
hopefully we're not on part of 
hit that kind of number, but 

643
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,100
people, people still got to live
somewhere, so, we'll see. 

644
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,700
Ya feel like, I mean, I've got 
this, I'm subscribe. 

645
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,500
I don't read a lot of news 
letters, but there's one like 

646
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:49,300
business /, Eric /, not know, 
just current day of Vincent's. 

647
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,200
I do that again. 
I'll read that instead of 

648
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,500
watching the news. 
I don't really watch the news at

649
00:32:52,500 --> 00:32:57,000
all, but there's all this fear 
mongering in it about interest 

650
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,300
rates and what's going to happen
and the economy and whether or 

651
00:33:00,300 --> 00:33:03,500
not you know, Twitter is going 
to go kaput because of Elon like

652
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,100
all this just drama and I've got
the point out, I just pretty 

653
00:33:07,100 --> 00:33:10,500
much like breathe through it 
super quick because it's just 

654
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:13,100
doesn't, it doesn't, it's not 
conducive to a healthy 

655
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,600
productive day. 
Like, if you wake up and your 

656
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,900
skin and they all this fear, and
this is I'd literally do not 

657
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:18,800
ever. 
Watch the news. 

658
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,500
Like, there's just so much 
negativity out there. 

659
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,000
And right now everything's in a 
flux with the economy and 

660
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,300
interest rates and people are 
worried about the next recession

661
00:33:25,700 --> 00:33:30,600
and you just you're so much less
productive in your day and what 

662
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,700
you have control over. 
It's just not worth it. 

663
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,800
Yeah, totally agree. 
If you watch the news and 

664
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,300
everything on the news scares 
you and it just puts you into a 

665
00:33:38,308 --> 00:33:40,900
different state of mind. 
It affects everything in your 

666
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,700
entire life. 
So, like you said, it's not 

667
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:45,700
worth it. 
It's just go about your business

668
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:48,200
to what works for you. 
You and what affects you and 

669
00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:51,000
take everything else with a 
grain of salt plus you're going 

670
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,400
to do this next show and then 
you going to compete that Pro 

671
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,400
Show and then you just going to 
you know make enough from your 

672
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:58,900
pro bodybuilding career that 
you'll not need to do anything 

673
00:33:58,900 --> 00:34:02,800
else. 
Hey you never know as you watch 

674
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,200
the Olympics. 
What's that? 

675
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:08,800
Do you watch the Olympia this 
past weekend? 

676
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:11,900
All I. 
Yeah, custom stuff on online. 

677
00:34:11,900 --> 00:34:13,699
Social media. 
I didn't like streaming or 

678
00:34:13,707 --> 00:34:16,400
anything. 
I would love to go out to an 

679
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,400
Olympia out there. 
One of these years, I just 

680
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:22,600
sebum. 
He's my favorite of all time. 

681
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:26,400
He's the guy. 
Yeah, I so it's kind of weird 

682
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,900
man. 
Like there's not I don't watch 

683
00:34:27,900 --> 00:34:29,100
sports that. 
I don't watch football. 

684
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:32,000
I don't watch any sports but 
I'll watch bodybuilding because 

685
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,300
I know these people and not, not
personally, but I know of them. 

686
00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:37,100
I follow them. 
I'm I'm kind of seeing what 

687
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:39,199
they're doing with their 
training, their nutrition and 

688
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:44,900
I'm in the sport myself but like
it's kind of wild last year. 

689
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:46,199
They did it. 
I think they streamed it on 

690
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,199
Amazon I believe and then this 
year they did like it was like 

691
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,500
pay-per-view so kind of like 
boxing tournament so I had to 

692
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:56,500
pay 69 bucks whatever it was to 
watch the Olympia and man it was

693
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:57,700
they had it, they added 
streaming. 

694
00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,000
So late it started at like 7:00 
p.m. 

695
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:04,900
Pacific time and they did the 
Olympia like the open 

696
00:35:04,900 --> 00:35:08,400
bodybuilding, the very end. 
And so it was like, you know, 

697
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,800
1:00 in the morning, I'm like, 
there's no way I'm gonna be able

698
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,400
to make it so I just went to 
bed, but I'm watching the next 

699
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,900
day. 
Yeah. 

700
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:17,100
And it's pretty wild and like 
there's a, there's a bunch of 

701
00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:18,400
upsets to it. 
For sure. 

702
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,400
You know, big Romney did not did
not, repeat did not get that. 

703
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,600
Oh, title again this year. 
But yeah I think classic 

704
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,800
physique and sebum, you know, 
Chris Bumstead. 

705
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:33,200
I think he is certainly the the 
more picturesque version of what

706
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,700
I would aspire to look like in 
body building as opposed to what

707
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:37,800
you're seeing the open. 
Bodybuilding classes for sure. 

708
00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:41,400
Yeah, for sure he's like, I 
don't know, it's for me. 

709
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,500
Anyways, he's like the optimal 
package right there. 

710
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,700
Yeah, that's that's he just wins
in my opinion. 

711
00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:52,500
Yeah, I think it's been cool to 
see classic physique as a 

712
00:35:52,508 --> 00:35:55,400
division. 
Really pick up in popularity and

713
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,400
just, you know, people buy into 
it because it was I remember 

714
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,800
when that was no longer a class 
or before that was a class. 

715
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,100
There was men's physique, then 
there was just open 

716
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,800
bodybuilding. 
Then they opened up to 12 

717
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,400
bodybuilding to kind of cater to
the People that were shorter and

718
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,900
coming in lighter and then they 
opened up classic physique and 

719
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:14,500
it's like, classic physique is 
more prominent in more popular 

720
00:36:14,500 --> 00:36:18,600
now than these open bodybuilding
shows, which is, I think that 

721
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,100
speaks to The Testament of, you 
know what the general population

722
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,400
finds, you know, attractive or 
finds, you know, appealing I 

723
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,300
guess. 
Yeah, yep. 

724
00:36:28,300 --> 00:36:29,900
I think the audience is growing 
for classic. 

725
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,500
It's it kind of bridges. 
The gap between men's physique, 

726
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:35,300
and bodybuilding and it brings 
back a little bit of the old 

727
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:38,100
school mentality. 
The old-school look too because 

728
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:44,000
they've got some specific posing
in classic that you don't have 

729
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,300
in men's physique or in men's 
body building. 

730
00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:49,900
Yeah. 
Some natural federation's do not

731
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,900
like the idea of incorporating a
classic physique division. 

732
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,300
Have you run into that at all? 
Yeah actually I think that that 

733
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:00,600
show that we mentioned or I was 
talking to you about the one and

734
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,600
that's in between my two other 
shows, the new one, the u.s. 

735
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,800
BF Federation. 
I do believe they are maybe one 

736
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:11,000
of the federation's that doesn't
appeal to the classic. 

737
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,500
They they will run a men's 
physique and immense 

738
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:17,500
bodybuilding but they don't want
to have that Center that line 

739
00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:20,600
down the middle and I honestly 
like their reasoning like that. 

740
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,900
They at least from the people. 
I've talked to that at these are

741
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:25,500
promoters. 
If you look at natural 

742
00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:30,000
bodybuilding and you look at the
open bodybuilding class like 

743
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,800
that that is a much more 
realistic representation of what

744
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:38,100
classic bodybuilding is. 
It's like natural open 

745
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:41,700
bodybuilding is kind of classic 
physique. 

746
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:43,600
Anyways, it's just called 
something different. 

747
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,900
So I think I think it makes 
sense to go there and like 

748
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:47,600
you're not seeing anybody that's
natural. 

749
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,500
Bodybuilding competing at 300 
pounds like you are on the 

750
00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:51,800
Olympia stage. 
Yeah for sure. 

751
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,900
I mean the two classes do 
overlap a bit, it some would 

752
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,600
argue to say that they're 
essentially the same dissipating

753
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,600
on the posing and what kind of 
trunks you're wearing but I can 

754
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,700
see both sides. 
Yeah, I don't know, man, it is 

755
00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,900
crazy there. 
Like I do, I love Of watching 

756
00:38:06,900 --> 00:38:10,800
the bodybuilding shows. 
I love the sport itself, but 

757
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,300
then you look at, like, the, 
like the mr. 

758
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:14,700
Olympia title. 
You know, hottie took it this 

759
00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:18,100
year, I think the prize-winning 
for first place on that 

760
00:38:18,100 --> 00:38:19,500
division. 
Open bodybuilding was what? 

761
00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:20,800
Like four hundred thousand 
dollars. 

762
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,700
You look at the most prestigious
natural bodybuilding shows in 

763
00:38:23,707 --> 00:38:25,800
the world and it's like a couple
Grand. 

764
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,000
Yeah, right. 
It's kind of wild have this 

765
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:30,700
person. 
Disparity is between those two? 

766
00:38:31,300 --> 00:38:34,100
Yeah, that'd be a good payday. 
Yeah, yeah. 

767
00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:35,800
That would be a good Payday, for
sure. 

768
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:40,200
I just wish. 
It's unfortunate to me that the 

769
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,400
sport of bodybuilding as much as
I love. 

770
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,100
It is not really representative 
of what a truly healthy 

771
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,000
individual is, if they're 
competing at that level, you 

772
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,500
know? 
Yeah, for sure. 

773
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,900
It's skewed for the competition.
Yeah, people want to pay to see 

774
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:59,800
the freaks, which I totally get,
but it's, you know, people look 

775
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,400
at that. 
They look at the magazines and 

776
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,900
look at the sport and they 
Market themselves as being the 

777
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:07,200
ideal picture of health. 
And And you had, like, all these

778
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:10,300
bodybuilders dropping dead, this
past year, like we do some type 

779
00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,400
of complications 
cardiac-related. 

780
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,500
And it's like, I don't know, 
it's just sad that that natural 

781
00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:21,100
bodybuilding, which truly I do 
think is a much more, you know, 

782
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,800
much more representative of a 
truly healthy individual. 

783
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,600
That's just not getting near the
exposure. 

784
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,300
I agree. 
Yeah, the the totally natural 

785
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:34,000
folks, they're obviously not 
going to be of that size or of 

786
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:38,000
that caliber, but it's more like
you said of a representative 

787
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,200
perception of what's healthy and
what's ideal, and what's optimal

788
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,200
as far as performance goes, I do
think natural. 

789
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,600
Bodybuilding is certainly 
gaining any traction that I feel

790
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,500
like there's more competitors in
these shows. 

791
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,500
There's more in the certainly 
more natural shows that you have

792
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:56,000
as options now than you did five
ten years ago. 

793
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,100
I mean, you've got one, you get 
one, Pump It Up in Colorado that

794
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:00,800
you can think about doing this 
is the first year doing that 

795
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,600
one. 
Yeah, yeah. 

796
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:04,700
I think so. 
I think for whatever reason is, 

797
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:08,200
gaining popularity, and 
traction, and more people are 

798
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,300
maybe considering staying the 
natural route versus the 

799
00:40:11,300 --> 00:40:14,500
unnatural route. 
So it's nice to see because it 

800
00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:18,000
kind of, if you're on the same 
competitor level as other 

801
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,800
natural athletes, it's really 
exciting. 

802
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:22,600
It's really fun because, you 
know, how just how hard 

803
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,400
everybody backstage is working 
when you're all natural are all 

804
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,600
putting in the time, Yeah, and I
feel like there's just a lot 

805
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,600
more camaraderie to, like, 
everybody since everybody is not

806
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,000
that the people in the open 
divisions or not, you know, not 

807
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,500
working as hard. 
You know, the people that are 

808
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:38,600
putting the ifbb, they're 
certainly putting in the work, 

809
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,500
but when you look at the natural
federation's, they're just, 

810
00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:43,600
there seems to be a lot more 
camaraderie backstage at least 

811
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,400
in the ones I've competed with 
and say, like, an NPC show 

812
00:40:46,700 --> 00:40:50,500
because I don't know, everybody 
just there to be the best that 

813
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,100
they can be. 
Yep, absolutely. 

814
00:40:53,900 --> 00:40:55,100
But I don't know man. 
I love a sport. 

815
00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:57,100
I'm excited to be prepping here 
soon. 

816
00:40:57,100 --> 00:40:59,600
I'm excited for your prep. 
I'm excited that you and Ben are

817
00:40:59,607 --> 00:41:00,900
doing the same show. 
I'm going to try and make it a 

818
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,900
point to get out there in 
person, if at all possible. 

819
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Do they allow dream tan? 
That show are they super strict 

820
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,200
on what the tanning is. 
I'm not sure. 

821
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,000
I actually haven't even looked 
up into the info for that one 

822
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,400
for registration yet. 
I'm not sure it's been announced

823
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,900
until maybe first of the year, 
so we'll see. 

824
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,600
Otherwise a lot of times those 
shows have got a an event tan 

825
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:27,400
That's on site that really 
everyone just kind of just sets 

826
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,600
up with them and they tan the 
whole works. 

827
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:34,500
Probably at The Host Hotel or 
wherever they The Event Center 

828
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,300
is so we'll just kind of see 
what the information comes out. 

829
00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:40,800
Nice nephew, do those two shows 
right? 

830
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,300
After that one, that means you 
can't get to, to Wild on that 

831
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,400
steak dinner afterwards which is
kind of 11 down solid one 

832
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,300
downside. 
That's right. 

833
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,300
Yeah. 
But nope, I won't be having any 

834
00:41:51,300 --> 00:41:52,600
sugary candy. 
Yeah. 

835
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,600
Definitely. 
No sugarcane D and honestly, 

836
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,600
shoot me in. 
Like when Crystal did her show 

837
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,700
way back in the day, we went to 
an all-you-can-eat Brazilian 

838
00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:02,600
steakhouse afterwards. 
And she went to town man, like, 

839
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:06,500
she ate all kinds of meat but 
she did not have near the 

840
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,400
adverse effects. 
Like I would not be surprised if

841
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,900
she ate an equal caloric intake.
As to what, you know, these 

842
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:15,200
competitors that are consuming a
bunch of carbs or having 

843
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:19,500
post-show, but like the adverse 
effects were so minuscule, by 

844
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:21,300
comparison. 
Sure. 

845
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,300
Yeah, blood sugar. 
Probably just didn't even 

846
00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:24,200
barely. 
Budge. 

847
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,700
Mmm. 
Yeah blood sugar flux was 

848
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,500
minimum. 
I don't remember I think we did 

849
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,800
a glucometer test them but it 
was too far back for me to 

850
00:42:30,808 --> 00:42:33,600
remember but yeah not near the 
adverse effects. 

851
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,800
Not near the crazy. 
High, the Crazy Drop the GI 

852
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:38,600
distress, it's just not any of 
them. 

853
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:43,700
Not any of that. 
Well man, talk to me about. 

854
00:42:43,900 --> 00:42:45,800
Let's see here, I want to, I 
want to be respectful of your 

855
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
time. 
But what else you got cooking? 

856
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,200
As far as 2023 codes. 
We got this last couple weeks of

857
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
2022. 
You get the prep obviously, but 

858
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,400
what else you have on the 
horizon sketchy excited, I'm 

859
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,300
excited to continue to coach. 
So, I've got some fresh people 

860
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:04,300
that have recently signed up. 
So we'll get them through the 

861
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:07,300
holiday season and into the 
first year on the right foot. 

862
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,200
So we've got some ketogenic 
nutritional coaching Watching 

863
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:15,900
going with that. 
And just probably the other 

864
00:43:15,900 --> 00:43:18,000
thing that's going to take the 
most of my time and the most of 

865
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,600
my attention is going to be 
prep. 

866
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,900
So I really, really enjoy being 
in a prep because it gives you 

867
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:27,800
something to focus on, give you 
some some value of importance. 

868
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,700
Every single day, hit your 
numbers, hit the gym, and every 

869
00:43:31,700 --> 00:43:34,600
week, you just kind of gauge the
results and tweak stuff along. 

870
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,900
So I love it. 
I love it. 

871
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,500
Has the has the working with 
clients during this time of 

872
00:43:40,500 --> 00:43:41,600
year. 
Do you get a lot of pushback 

873
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,200
from them wanting to indulge in 
holiday festivities? 

874
00:43:46,700 --> 00:43:54,600
It's not too bad. 
My main my main I guess Point to

875
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,700
stress with them or just make 
them aware of is just be open 

876
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:00,400
and honest. 
So like if you end up going to a

877
00:44:00,408 --> 00:44:03,700
holiday party or a family event 
or something, in the end up kind

878
00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:05,900
of getting off track or having 
some things that you normally 

879
00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:08,700
wouldn't eat or you fall victim 
to peer pressure or something. 

880
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:10,600
Just tell me about it. 
You know, it's not that big a 

881
00:44:10,607 --> 00:44:15,500
deal where human the goal. 
Long term is to set yourself up 

882
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:18,600
with something that can be 
sustainable, and healthy, and 

883
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:22,100
comes as second nature. 
So, if that takes a little bit 

884
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,800
of learning along the way, Way, 
so be it. 

885
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,100
But, you know, maybe take that 
opportunity to learn why you 

886
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:32,400
deviated, why you ate, what you 
ate, why you felt like you had 

887
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,600
to and then what did you learn 
from it? 

888
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,400
And you know, how did you feel 
after? 

889
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,000
Because that's what kind of sets
yourself up for, if you come to 

890
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000
that same decision making spot 
again, you can think back and 

891
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,700
try to remember, you know, did 
you get sick? 

892
00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:48,400
Did you not enjoy the results? 
Did it throw you off for a few 

893
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:49,300
days? 
Whatever? 

894
00:44:49,900 --> 00:44:52,100
Yeah, feel like simply being 
honest with it. 

895
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,500
Honest with the Challenge with 
yourself is key. 

896
00:44:55,500 --> 00:44:59,600
I mean if like people are going 
to deviate nobody benefits by 

897
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:02,800
hiding that deviation like you 
just have to own it and if you 

898
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,400
yep own it then you can also own
the repercussions of that and if

899
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,100
you owned repercussions of that 
then you can ideally have enough

900
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,100
self awareness and discipline 
the next time to have enough 

901
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:15,700
know, with all as to whether or 
not those repercussions were 

902
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:17,300
worth that deviation to begin 
with. 

903
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,200
Yep. 
And I actually for many, many 

904
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:24,200
years suffered with, like a 
Order to eating, where? 

905
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,300
If I had an intense feeling of 
anxiety. 

906
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:29,400
I don't know why. 
And I know a lot of people do 

907
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:31,500
this but it just would go find 
something to eat. 

908
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:33,600
It wasn't hungry and it didn't 
crave anything. 

909
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,200
I would just for some reason 
that was what would satisfy my 

910
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,000
anxiety. 
But then, I always look back on 

911
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:38,600
it. 
I think. 

912
00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:41,000
What the heck that that did 
nothing. 

913
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,300
And now I just over eight, but I
was supposed to be eating and 

914
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:48,500
now I have to, you know, just 
look forward and try not to let 

915
00:45:48,500 --> 00:45:51,500
it happen again and try to 
figure out how to stop that 

916
00:45:51,500 --> 00:45:53,100
trigger point or what that 
trigger point. 

917
00:45:53,300 --> 00:45:55,100
Was work through it. 
The next time. 

918
00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:58,500
Yeah. 
Feel like anything that can, I 

919
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,500
don't know. 
Like human Nature's is a funny 

920
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:02,100
thing man. 
Like you get stretchers you get 

921
00:46:02,100 --> 00:46:04,900
anxieties people. 
Often times turn to food to fill

922
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:09,300
that void and I don't know what 
the primary drivers for that. 

923
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,100
I used to do that as well. 
I don't know why that becomes a 

924
00:46:14,107 --> 00:46:16,200
thing to I think because it's 
easier to justify like it's 

925
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,100
easier to justify going for more
food than it is to justify, you 

926
00:46:20,107 --> 00:46:23,100
know, taking a hit of cocaine 
like it's smaller bird. 

927
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,000
Judge to Gap are smaller Gap 
bridge. 

928
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,500
I suppose, so to speak with just
reaching for more food because 

929
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:29,900
just socially acceptable. 
Yep. 

930
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:32,200
And it's readily available. 
You do you have food in your 

931
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,200
cupboard, food in your fridge, 
food in the drawer food 

932
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,000
everywhere. 
So, you did something to bridge 

933
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,400
that opening, our fill that void
that you feel are satisfy that 

934
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,700
sweet tooth or whatever gives 
you that little brain 

935
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:45,200
stimulation. 
And so you just got to kind of 

936
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,700
own up to it. 
Learn about why it's happening 

937
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:50,600
and figure out how to work 
through it the next time. 

938
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:51,900
Yeah. 
But a percent. 

939
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:54,900
I think time. 
Heels, all sort of speak. 

940
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,900
Like when you go long enough 
without leaning on food to fill 

941
00:46:57,900 --> 00:47:02,100
that void, you realize that food
is not necessary to fill that 

942
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:03,700
void. 
Right on. 

943
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:09,200
Yep, I've learned now that if I 
feel that weird feeling of, you 

944
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:12,800
know, kind of like one of binge 
or something is wanting me to 

945
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,000
walk to the refrigerator. 
What I don't really need to walk

946
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:18,100
the refrigerator, I just stopped
think about it, have a huge 

947
00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:21,000
glass of water and if it's nice 
outside of just go for a 10 

948
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,100
minute walk and that feeling 
completely. 

949
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,500
Appears. 
Yeah, one thing that I do in a 

950
00:47:25,508 --> 00:47:28,600
prep when my calories are really
low and it's honestly more, so 

951
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,800
just hunger not on me than than 
psychological aspect of it. 

952
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000
But I'll just simply go for a 
walk outside for like 20 minutes

953
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,500
before I'm supposed to eat and 
then that just allows me to be 

954
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:41,700
present so that when I do eat I 
don't rush through it and 

955
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:44,800
actually enjoy it and then I 
don't know, I'm satisfied at the

956
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,700
end of it. 
Yeah, yeah for sure you have a 

957
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:50,700
good few can actually slow down 
the process of eating to wear 

958
00:47:50,700 --> 00:47:55,800
your satisfying yourself. 
That is huge because sometimes 

959
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,700
we're in a rush and we eat too 
quick and then we're done eating

960
00:47:58,700 --> 00:48:00,200
and everything. 
I'll dang, I didn't even really 

961
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,600
enjoy that it did. 
We want them doing? 

962
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,200
Oh, mad at your last breath. 
Like that. 

963
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,600
We get low enough to where it 
made sense to do. 

964
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,000
Man, I think less prep the 
lowest ever got was right 

965
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,500
around. 
Was at 1600, calories or so. 

966
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:14,300
So I don't think I ever really 
did all mad. 

967
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:17,300
I've done all about in the past 
but we didn't really capitalize 

968
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:21,000
that during a prep. 
I think I did that on the last 

969
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:24,500
month or so of my prep and I 
feel Like as counterintuitive as

970
00:48:24,500 --> 00:48:28,400
it may sound, that was actually 
beneficial to because I didn't 

971
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,600
have to, I didn't I when you're 
that low and you're hungry, you 

972
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,000
eat a meal. 
And you start thinking about 

973
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,000
when the next Millie has. 
Whereas if you just simply have 

974
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,600
one meal, you don't have to 
think about anymore. 

975
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,000
It's like it's done that. 
That's that's it for the day and

976
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,600
then you get a weight and have 
it the next day, but like you 

977
00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:45,300
don't obsess about it as much 
when you're only having one 

978
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:48,100
meal, it seems. 
Yeah, that's true, for sure. 

979
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:50,600
If you're doing all mad because 
you know, if you have a 

980
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:53,300
designated time where you're 
going to plan on eating your Of 

981
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:55,900
the day and maybe that's in the 
afternoon early evening or 

982
00:48:55,900 --> 00:48:59,500
something it really kind of lets
you hone in and stay attentive 

983
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,200
to everything else throughout 
the rest of the day without 

984
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,400
having to worry about, when 
you're going to get that meal 

985
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:05,600
in. 
What's coming up? 

986
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,600
You know, worrying, if you need 
to plan ahead, we're going to be

987
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,100
to get that meal in, but you 
already have it already already 

988
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:14,800
chalked up in your mind Bingo. 
Well, I'm gonna end up with one 

989
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,700
parting thought here man, let 
you have a parting. 

990
00:49:16,700 --> 00:49:18,700
Thought here, what have you 
noticed? 

991
00:49:18,700 --> 00:49:21,500
As far as like you're in the 
keto space your online, your own

992
00:49:21,500 --> 00:49:26,400
social, what have You noticed as
one of the Hot Topics as of 

993
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,100
late, like for a while. 
There is the protein, which is 

994
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:30,900
still kind of a Hot Topic. 
But what are you seeing right 

995
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:32,900
now? 
Is being like a hot snot, 

996
00:49:32,900 --> 00:49:35,300
actually, controversial may be, 
controversial topic that a lot 

997
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:38,700
people talking about right now 
Mom. 

998
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:44,900
Gosh, there's just so many. 
It's kind of just a it's a muddy

999
00:49:44,900 --> 00:49:46,800
space. 
A little bit right now. 

1000
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,900
I guess for it for a lot of 
people that are kind of getting 

1001
00:49:49,100 --> 00:49:53,200
into it fresh or just thinking 
about keto or just kind of 

1002
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:57,100
getting delved into the 
information, it's kind of a 

1003
00:49:57,107 --> 00:50:01,600
muddy space but if you can just 
simplify it and get back to the 

1004
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:06,100
basics, you know, ketogenic way 
of eating is essentially the 

1005
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:09,200
absence of carbs that mean 
simply put there's a lot of 

1006
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:15,500
people who I think want to lean 
on all the keto labeled marketed

1007
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:18,600
Foods. 
Think that's one of the biggest 

1008
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,500
growing Industries with of big 
food is they're coming up with 

1009
00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:27,000
all these products, you know, 
loaves of bread and cookies and 

1010
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:30,600
all this sugary snacks and 
things that are really usually a

1011
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,900
junk food item. 
Yeah. 

1012
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:35,600
But they're flipping them 
flipping the ingredients around,

1013
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,100
flipping, the macros around just
to make them look like they have

1014
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,700
low net carbs and they can slap 
keto on the packaging. 

1015
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:44,500
And it's really I think it's 
really distracting everybody and

1016
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:46,100
pulling them in the wrong 
direction. 

1017
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:49,000
It's kind of well man. 
Like you've been, you've been 

1018
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,000
you've been cute enough for how 
long it's probably was over 

1019
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,600
eight years now. 
Yeah. 

1020
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:56,200
Yeah. 
So you and I have both been news

1021
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,900
for a freaking long time and 
when we first got into the 

1022
00:50:58,900 --> 00:51:02,900
space, like yeah, we've learned 
a ton from since then we've 

1023
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:04,500
changed things a little bit 
since then. 

1024
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:08,700
But then the day, there hasn't 
been a massive need to deviate 

1025
00:51:08,700 --> 00:51:13,000
too far from what just the 
traditional Killed rennick died.

1026
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,600
That was, like, people try to 
overcomplicate things. 

1027
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,300
Yeah, I think it's because big 
food wants to get their piece of

1028
00:51:19,308 --> 00:51:22,300
the pie. 
You know, they see a market 

1029
00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:25,800
there where they can use the 
buzzword keto or low carb low 

1030
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,300
net carbs, sugar free or 
whatever, just to try to make a 

1031
00:51:28,308 --> 00:51:32,500
few extra bucks but in the all 
reality of things Quito is 

1032
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,400
there's nothing that has to be 
labeled keto at the grocery 

1033
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,200
store to live. 
Keto, you simply just stay on 

1034
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,600
the outside of the grocery 
store. 

1035
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:42,900
Meaning you hit all the 
refrigerated sections in the 

1036
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:47,400
store, you know, meat cheese, 
eggs, dairy, that's you there's 

1037
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,700
keto right there and none of 
that stuff has to have keto on 

1038
00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:51,700
it. 
So like you said, we've been in 

1039
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:54,600
it for a while. 
Back before there was kilo bread

1040
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:57,400
and keto cookies, and kilo bars 
and, you know, all that keto 

1041
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:02,100
stuff. 
But think that's it's, it's kind

1042
00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:04,100
of disappointing. 
Because the people that are 

1043
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,800
looking for something, that's a 
solution are being pulled in so 

1044
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:10,600
many directions that don't have 
to be there. 

1045
00:52:10,900 --> 00:52:13,100
Yeah, I agree. 
I think I think it's important 

1046
00:52:13,100 --> 00:52:16,400
for, you know, people like you 
just to be simply showcasing 

1047
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,200
what's possible without all that
stuff. 

1048
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,100
I mean, shoot, I own food 
product with key tobruk and I'm 

1049
00:52:21,100 --> 00:52:23,800
still the first person tell 
people, hey look, don't feel 

1050
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,600
like you have to make anything a
packaged food order to make this

1051
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,200
diet work and be sustainable 
for. 

1052
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,400
Like that's just all in addition
to not because of so that that 

1053
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,300
scheme and I mean I feel like 
when we got into it like you 

1054
00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:36,400
said there was none of these 
products available in the first 

1055
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,800
place and it was just less 
distraction as a result. 

1056
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,800
Yeah, for sure, I'm right there 
with you, man. 

1057
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:45,400
We'll shoot brother. 
I'm super excited about the 

1058
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,000
prep. 
I'm excited about what 2023 

1059
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,200
holds for you, and I'm excited 
to be working with you again, as

1060
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,100
always. 
And I'm excited for what you 

1061
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:54,600
bring to the table as a coach, 
so where can people go to find 

1062
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:57,900
out more about you, man. 
Instagram is where I am the most

1063
00:52:57,900 --> 00:53:03,500
Lively probably Quito Greg, 80 
kg 80 on there. 

1064
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:07,700
We got a Facebook page as well. 
That's that's probably the 

1065
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:10,000
easiest way to reach out to me. 
Nice, I'll link. 

1066
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:12,700
Get to that and you are a deeper
State could have coached. 

1067
00:53:12,700 --> 00:53:15,800
So anybody that wants to work 
with, you can do so and your 

1068
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,400
coaching is available where we 
can go down the deeper State 

1069
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,700
keto, Instagram or website a 
persecutor.com I'm on there, 

1070
00:53:23,700 --> 00:53:26,100
with Coach Jen. 
We've both got some different 

1071
00:53:26,100 --> 00:53:28,900
options as far as coaching goes,
even consultations. 

1072
00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:31,600
And if you've got questions 
about either of those options, 

1073
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,100
you can always shoot me a 
message in advance. 

1074
00:53:34,300 --> 00:53:36,600
Awesome, awesome. 
Well Greg, it's always a 

1075
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,100
pleasure, ma'am. 
Appreciate what you do, and I'll

1076
00:53:39,100 --> 00:53:41,500
be messaging you. 
You in slack with the macros 

1077
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,800
this week. 
So I'll be in touch awesome. 

1078
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,000
I appreciate a man, as always 
take care, brother, you too.