1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,300 What's going on? Robert Sykes Quito Savage.com. 2 00:00:02,300 --> 00:00:04,900 Today I've got special guest, Peter Jeff's back on the line. 3 00:00:04,900 --> 00:00:09,700 He is one of my clients, we work together for about seven, seven 4 00:00:09,700 --> 00:00:12,600 and a half months, he got freaking shredded. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,200 He lost about 60 pounds and that Journey, not all that, 60 pounds 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,200 was with me, actually lost a good percentage of that. 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,900 With one of my other clients who is coaching now as well and just 8 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:28,500 an awesome awesome story. But we had all kinds of 9 00:00:28,500 --> 00:00:32,700 obstacles throughout his Rep. He had, you know, covid officers 10 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:33,800 going on this time, he's in Canada. 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:37,000 So all kinds of restrictions around the show that he had 12 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,700 planned on competing in. He wound up catching covid. 13 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:42,600 Had to do a photo shoot like all kinds of chaos but his ability 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,100 to just maintain his work ethic, not make any excuses. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,600 He is definitely a believer in the discipline equals Freedom at 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,100 mentality and that that Shone through throughout this entire 17 00:00:54,100 --> 00:00:57,200 Journey. So truly enjoyed working with 18 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,100 Peter I've got a lot of respect for him. 19 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:02,000 I've got No doubt that he will continue to just kill it in 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,099 Excel and always with his journey going forward. 21 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:07,200 He's gonna be doing another prep with me next year. 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:09,600 He's in the building phase right now but honestly I just wanted 23 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,400 to bring them on the podcast. Kind of dive a little deeper 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,400 into his story that little deeper into this journey and 25 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,100 what are some of the things that he's learned about himself and 26 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,000 what are some things he's got going in the future. 27 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:20,700 So thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. 28 00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:22,700 Have no doubt that you will take something from it. 29 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:26,100 So that for their do sit back, relax and enjoy the podcast with 30 00:01:26,100 --> 00:01:27,300 my good friend. Peter 31 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,400 And we are Live. Peter, how are you brother? 32 00:01:39,900 --> 00:01:41,400 I'm good. Robert, how are you? 33 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:45,400 I'm doing wonderful woman, has been what about oh a month maybe 34 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,600 since we've talked last I guess. Yeah, I know we've shared some 35 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,800 messages on slack for some reason, I just continue to reach 36 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:57,000 out to you and but yeah and of course I reached out with the 37 00:01:57,100 --> 00:02:01,300 when once again congratulations on Baby Savage so exciting. 38 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,100 No, it's always a pleasure chatting with you, man. 39 00:02:03,100 --> 00:02:06,100 Like you're one of my clients where even after we stopped 40 00:02:06,100 --> 00:02:09,400 working together, like, I look forward to seeing a message pop 41 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,400 up from you. You're just a good all around 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,500 guy and I enjoy the conversation for sure. 43 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,000 Thanks Robert. Yeah, I love getting a bit of 44 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,600 extra advice along the way. So I certainly appreciate that 45 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:23,600 you're always willing to respond to my cats with not only with 46 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,000 encouragement, but some solid advice and experience. 47 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,900 So that's gone a long way for me, so thank you. 48 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,200 Absolutely absolutely. Well, I just wanted to get you 49 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,600 on the podcast to kind of talk about what got you in Aikido, 50 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:38,500 kind of your story. This whole prep Journey itself 51 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:41,900 because you've made quite the transformation with regard to 52 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,200 the competition prep that you've gone through. 53 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,900 And you've had, you had kind of all kinds of obstacles, arise 54 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:50,900 throughout that prep journey. And as I try to really, you 55 00:02:50,900 --> 00:02:54,000 know, illustrate with people, the Stars never seem to align 56 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,800 when you're going through a prep, and that certainly was the 57 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:58,900 case for you. But before we dive into the 58 00:02:58,900 --> 00:03:01,700 actual prep that you just concluded, You know, not too 59 00:03:01,708 --> 00:03:03,400 long ago. I love to kind of get some more 60 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,000 back story on you personally, man. 61 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,300 Like what got you into Kita? What made you interested in this 62 00:03:07,300 --> 00:03:10,200 life, down the first place and what, what made that all 63 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,300 resonate with you? Yeah, perfect. 64 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:14,500 So maybe I'll go back a little bit. 65 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,500 I'd say a few years ago I tried what I would have called keto 66 00:03:18,500 --> 00:03:22,700 then probably more of a dirty version of Kido but you know it 67 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:26,500 was still low carb and my body felt really good on it. 68 00:03:26,900 --> 00:03:30,200 The added bonus was, I did lose some weight at that time I was 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,900 carrying around. A considerable amount of weight 70 00:03:34,300 --> 00:03:36,100 and then one day I was out walking the dog. 71 00:03:36,100 --> 00:03:39,500 I generally listen to podcasts when I'm riding my bike around, 72 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:43,100 walking the dog. And I ask Siri, what is the best 73 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:48,500 keto workout podcast and Aikido Savage podcast came back. 74 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:53,200 I started listening to a podcast that you did with Seth Barner 75 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:58,200 actually, which was a fantastic. Listen, and just happened to go 76 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,000 in and start to follow both of you on Instagram. 77 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,600 Three today out to me and said, hey, thanks for following me. 78 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:08,900 And then we kind of went back and forth for a number of months 79 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,100 to help me get started with macros. 80 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,500 I kind of started to train and, you know, be coached under him 81 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:19,800 with the initial macro stage, my body started to feel really 82 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:22,400 good, you know, less inflammation. 83 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:26,500 I would suggest, I really enjoyed the clear mind feeling I 84 00:04:26,508 --> 00:04:30,800 was getting, but most of all, I felt like it was sustainable and 85 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,000 that was it. Important to me that the reduced 86 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:34,200 food. Prep time. 87 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,300 I was able to make foods I enjoyed and yet, I was seeing a 88 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:39,500 lot of benefits on the other side. 89 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,400 And then after six or seven months with Seth, he connected 90 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,800 me with you. And that's really where the 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:47,700 transformation. Really started. 92 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:49,800 Nice, nice. Yeah, I got a lot of respect for 93 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,300 Chef, he's an awesome guy. I thoroughly enjoyed having him 94 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:53,700 on the pocket. He's another one of my clients 95 00:04:53,700 --> 00:04:57,100 were I just it's become more like a friendship than a client 96 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:59,000 coaching relationship when it's all said and done like you get 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,200 to meet people, you get to know them on a deeper level. 98 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,800 I think he won the, he did he won the golden brick winner as 99 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:07,800 well. So we flew him out here and he 100 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:09,700 stay with us for a few days and that was just really good. 101 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:11,700 He's a good all around guy as well. 102 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:15,100 Yeah, he's a fantastic guy. I would say he has totally 103 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:19,500 become a friend, you know, all during covid and we do left live 104 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:23,500 several hundreds of miles apart. You know, he was one of my 105 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:26,100 biggest supporters as I was working with you and would 106 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:29,900 continually reach out to me to see how things were going. 107 00:05:29,900 --> 00:05:32,400 And, yeah, I absolutely love them. 108 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,800 He's a fantastic guy. So, yeah, I guess let's give the 109 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,700 listeners little context here. You're in, Canada, and Canada 110 00:05:39,700 --> 00:05:43,900 had a, I would probably Venture say a much stricter, you know, 111 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:46,300 protocol on what they would allow, what they would not 112 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:49,000 allow, especially as it related to, like body building 113 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,500 competitions, and things of that nature. 114 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:54,700 So your I don't want to jump too far ahead here, but that was 115 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:56,500 kind of some of the obstacles. I was alluding to you had 116 00:05:56,500 --> 00:05:59,200 planned on doing a show and originally, and that gets 117 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,200 cancelled. And then I had to reschedule 118 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,700 Will times, but it wasn't easy on you being in Canada, 119 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:07,400 throughout the whole covid thing as related to body building 120 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,300 Endeavors. Absolutely. 121 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:11,600 Yeah. And we so we did have some 122 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,000 serious restrictions. We had Jim closures so you know, 123 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,300 we'd be moving along, just fine and all of a sudden, our gyms 124 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:21,700 would shut down. I think the worst was for three 125 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:23,800 or four months. So it was, you know, trying to 126 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:28,600 make do with a home gym, some TRX cables and, you know, 127 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,200 working outside in the winter the odd time. 128 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:35,600 I'm set up a quick gym in the basement, took over my wife's 129 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:38,600 yoga room, so not sure how well that went over. 130 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,100 But in the end, everything seemed to work out. 131 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:47,200 Well, other than the show was cancelled and so we move to a 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,200 photoshoot instead. Yeah. 133 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:52,200 And with a lot of, I mean, my show got canceled like a week 134 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:55,300 before I stepped on stage so I totally can understand the 135 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:58,500 frustration you were going through but I mean you handled 136 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:03,000 it like just perfectly man like your Attitude and Demeter never 137 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:04,300 shifted. I mean, you were able to go 138 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:08,000 through, you know, not having a gym for months on end, that 139 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,100 didn't that didn't hinder your better to train hard, you made, 140 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,300 you made do with what you had. You were biking. 141 00:07:14,300 --> 00:07:18,300 A lot of places for cardio. You were just getting it done 142 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,900 despite all the opportunities for making an excuse and then I 143 00:07:21,907 --> 00:07:25,000 think what right before the the photo shoot you wind up getting 144 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,500 covid as well. So it's like a perfect storm of 145 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:31,300 negative things happening and most people pretty much anybody 146 00:07:31,300 --> 00:07:32,400 He else? I know, would be like, okay, 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,300 this is a totally justifiable reason to Nix the photoshoot Nix 148 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:39,200 the competition next to prep, and just go back to some degree 149 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,200 of normalcy, and you didn't let any of that phase. 150 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,500 You just kept kept your head down and kept on grinding. 151 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,600 Yeah, thanks Robert. I felt like I had come a long 152 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:51,100 way by that point and I was really committed to, you know, 153 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,400 finishing what I had started. I received a ton of support from 154 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:58,400 you a ton of support from Seth from my wife and family. 155 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,600 I mean it was it was very Going to continue on. 156 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,300 I do recall, I was so excited for my first refeed and you will 157 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:11,100 likely recall this as well during my face for refeed, and I 158 00:08:11,100 --> 00:08:13,900 was so sick with the covid that I didn't even do it. 159 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:17,000 I just didn't even eat that day, unfortunately. 160 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,500 But it only knocked me down for two or three days where I 161 00:08:20,500 --> 00:08:24,500 couldn't work out. But I came back strong and we 162 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:26,900 managed to push through to a to the photo. 163 00:08:26,900 --> 00:08:30,600 Shoot, absolutely, I'm going to pull up your client spreadsheet 164 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,000 here as we're talking. Talking because I don't want to 165 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,799 get these numbers wrong, but I want to kind of get your stats, 166 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:37,900 some of your stats in place. You do you remember what your 167 00:08:37,900 --> 00:08:44,200 starting weight was? Yeah, I think 193 is what I came 168 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,700 to you at Robert. I think when I started with 169 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:51,800 Seth, I was over 220, maybe to 23 years or something. 170 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:57,300 So you were to 23 and you weren't you weren't key to, at 171 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:59,700 all, prior to working with Seth, right? 172 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,400 Correct set. Kind of Seth got me started on 173 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,900 keto. I will say that I did work out 174 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,600 but I wasn't seeing the potential until I brought in 175 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:17,300 this responsible type of eating. Yeah, we started on 8, 16, 20, 176 00:09:17,300 --> 00:09:20,600 21, your weight. There was like 193, like you 177 00:09:20,608 --> 00:09:23,300 were saying. And before that when you start 178 00:09:23,300 --> 00:09:25,700 with Seth, you said, you were 230 there that, right? 179 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:31,100 To, I think 223, I actually didn't look back that far to be. 180 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:34,100 Honest. But 223 and then we get you down 181 00:09:34,100 --> 00:09:40,200 to your lightest was looks like 162 that about right? 182 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,700 Yeah it was 162. I think on photo shoot day. 183 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:49,800 I was 165 after a roofie so what does that that's, 60 pounds 184 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:52,200 down. Yeah it is. 185 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:54,400 That's insane man. Do you have any idea what your 186 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,400 total calories may have been like when you first started 187 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:00,000 working with Seth like before it before he gave you your Macros 188 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:01,200 just what you were eating on a normal day. 189 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:06,000 Basis, I would say Robert that I was pretty responsible during 190 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,300 the day and then I would basically double my calories at 191 00:10:09,300 --> 00:10:11,100 night. That's the challenging time for 192 00:10:11,100 --> 00:10:15,300 me. I really honestly couldn't put a 193 00:10:15,300 --> 00:10:19,700 calorie total calorie to it. I would say that my carbs would 194 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:25,000 have been extremely high and so that in my mind that explains 195 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:29,600 why I you know, this sore knees the foggy mind that type of 196 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,100 thing. Just definite increase. 197 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:35,200 The inflammation. Yeah, and then, when we started, 198 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:43,000 I started you ants 2600 calories to 6352 and 35 grams of fat, 115 199 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,700 protein, 15 carbs. And then we kind of went to the 200 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:48,200 home. Drop your fat, increase protein 201 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,000 figure out your protein threshold, kind of like, I'll 202 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,700 illustrate in the book, but that whole time, man, like your 203 00:10:52,700 --> 00:10:54,900 weight was just steadily dropping. 204 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:57,200 Like, there's not a whole lot of clients that I've worked with 205 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,000 where it's like a like more or less a linear progression but 206 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,200 you Pretty much had pretty dang. Close to a linear progression 207 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,400 and weight loss throughout the whole journey. 208 00:11:06,300 --> 00:11:08,500 Yeah. I feel like I did. 209 00:11:08,500 --> 00:11:11,900 So I used the isn't called the Renfro scale I think. 210 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:16,300 And when you look at that vendor reduction in rate in weight, it 211 00:11:16,300 --> 00:11:20,700 is it is a nice line down and I'll be honest, that was a very 212 00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:24,900 motivating and encouraging as I continued week to week. 213 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:28,200 But you know, those early days I didn't find it overly 214 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,700 challenging. There were days where I was 215 00:11:30,700 --> 00:11:33,100 almost struggling to get all the food in. 216 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:36,600 Yeah. And it was great to see the 217 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,800 weight loss and I said to this to you a number of times Robert 218 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:43,400 even early on the weight loss was great and that was kind of 219 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:48,100 one of my goal but the reduced soreness of my body, it just 220 00:11:48,108 --> 00:11:53,000 changed my workouts, the reduced prep time, you know, by the end 221 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,800 of my cut, I was just eating one meal a day. 222 00:11:55,808 --> 00:12:01,000 I really enjoyed it and in the back of my mind, I was always 223 00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:03,800 Saying to myself. This is totally sustainable. 224 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,600 And, you know, I've completed the Cod, I've completed my kind 225 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,800 of started towards my in the middle of my reverse dieting, I 226 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,300 should say and it's going great. Yeah. 227 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:18,800 And your testosterone levels, your testosterone levels were 228 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,200 starting at a pretty high. I don't remember what you said, 229 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:25,200 one on one of our initial consult calls, but but your 230 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:28,300 natural testosterone levels were pretty impressive. 231 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:35,100 Yeah, I think I was 1250 and then I didn't measure right. 232 00:12:36,100 --> 00:12:40,500 My intent was to measure that week before picture day and then 233 00:12:40,500 --> 00:12:45,300 I got covid and I didn't, you know, that's one thing in 234 00:12:45,300 --> 00:12:49,300 hindsight. I look back, I know you keep 235 00:12:49,300 --> 00:12:54,600 track of so many statistics and I think you hinted to me along 236 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,700 the way. Hey maybe measure this and that 237 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,400 and now I wish I had taken your advice. 238 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:02,500 Because that stuff that I can look back on. 239 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:06,300 And when I do my next cut it would be great to compare it. 240 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:10,000 So that is one thing I kind of regret any. 241 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:13,300 Well, there's always next cut so it's a you live and you learn 242 00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:17,200 and just to give the listeners some some context here. 243 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:21,100 What is what is your age again? Peter So, when I started, I was 244 00:13:21,108 --> 00:13:26,800 58 for my photo shoot. I had just turned 59 59, so I've 245 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:31,200 had several clients as of late that were, you know, early 50s, 246 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:36,100 mid 50s, late 50s, and it's awesome to work with y'all 247 00:13:36,100 --> 00:13:38,300 because, for whatever reason of all the demographics, I mean, 248 00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,300 y'all are like very rarely. Do y'all make excuses just 249 00:13:41,300 --> 00:13:43,200 freaking hunker down and get to work? 250 00:13:43,208 --> 00:13:47,500 I had Sean I don't think I have a podcast with him yet but you 251 00:13:47,500 --> 00:13:49,700 know, he and I recently finished up our coaching and he got 252 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,300 Gifts. They shredded I think like three 253 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,800 percent or something like that via the, you know, by electrical 254 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:56,700 impedance. Can you are probably right 255 00:13:56,700 --> 00:14:00,800 around that as well, three or four percent and you just get 256 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,100 freaking lean, man. Like you got the vascularity, 257 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:07,100 you got the muscle definition, you get the separation, and you 258 00:14:07,100 --> 00:14:10,100 don't make excuses. And for me as a coach working 259 00:14:10,100 --> 00:14:12,200 with people, that just simply put the head down and get to 260 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,000 work. And don't make excuses is the 261 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,100 easiest type of client because you just do. 262 00:14:18,700 --> 00:14:21,400 And then you don't You don't make up reasons why not to do 263 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,300 and then the final result, obviously speaks for itself. 264 00:14:24,300 --> 00:14:27,200 Y'all got freakishly shredded but the coolest thing for me is 265 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:32,600 to be able to hear y'alls excitement for, you know, what 266 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,700 you learn about yourself throughout that Journey when you 267 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:38,200 get that lean, when you go through, as detailed as 268 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,400 regimented a protocol like this for the, you know, several 269 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,800 months. What you learn about yourself 270 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,300 and what you, what you now have at your fingertips, coming out 271 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,200 of it. It's just incredibly empowering. 272 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,100 Yeah, that is so true. I definitely feel like I have a 273 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,300 much better understanding of my body. 274 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,300 I do know. There were I think twice I 275 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:03,900 reached out to you Robert. One time I started my our slack 276 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:07,500 chat with, hey maybe body buildings, Not for Me Maybe 277 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:09,700 natural bodybuilding is not for me. 278 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:13,800 And then you know, kind of obviously it was at a low point 279 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:18,700 and we snapped out of it quickly and I think then once was later 280 00:15:18,700 --> 00:15:21,400 on Had a bit of a call. I don't think I was as close to 281 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,900 the edge on that second call but we just talk through a few 282 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:30,500 things and it was it was just a moment of weakness here and 283 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:33,000 there but other than that I think we progress. 284 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,000 Well it was definitely. I will say, you know, that 285 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,100 tapering macros that period was definitely challenging. 286 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:44,900 I read the chapter in your book about mindset during that phase 287 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:47,900 3 up, tapering macros almost daily. 288 00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:53,500 I had your book sitting on my bedside table and with my wife 289 00:15:53,500 --> 00:15:55,800 would jokingly call it. Oh I see you're reading the 290 00:15:55,800 --> 00:16:00,400 Bible again it was it was perfect timing that that book 291 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,700 came out a couple of months before I actually completed my 292 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,800 photo shoot well there's so much to buy the boom. 293 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,300 It is I mean this is why it is truly a mental sport. 294 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:13,600 Like it's so much Beyond just the physical act of going to the 295 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,700 gym, the physical act of prepping your meals. 296 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:20,600 I mean where you have to go mentally, too, Not only do the 297 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,800 day-to-day but embrace the day-to-day and like, be excited 298 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,200 about it, so it doesn't burn you out, is like a special type of 299 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,100 place. I mean, you got to really want 300 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:32,000 to go there. So, I really wanted to make a 301 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,400 pretty good, pretty good. Percentage of the book, you 302 00:16:34,408 --> 00:16:38,200 know, dedicated to the mindset that it should accompany you on 303 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 this journey so that you are kind of set up for success. 304 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:44,900 But it's so cool for me, man. Like I, I wish you could be on 305 00:16:44,900 --> 00:16:48,200 the receiving end of this and kind of experience what it is 306 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,300 like for me. As the coach because like when 307 00:16:50,300 --> 00:16:53,100 you're at the low point, when we had that talk, when you call me 308 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,400 like a man, this is what I'm feeling and I'm not feeling it. 309 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,000 This is just not good. Like I knew exactly the emotions 310 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,400 that you were having and we just talk to it. 311 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,800 You got fired up and then like the next day, you had like a new 312 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:08,599 low and then you submitted some pictures and they looked even 313 00:17:08,599 --> 00:17:11,800 better than the prior time. It's like, I don't know why we, 314 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,400 as humans have these, these LOLs are these periods where we just 315 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,599 beat ourselves up internally, even if anybody from the 316 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:22,000 outside, Looking at could see, the progress is being made, but 317 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,400 we just like, we allow ourselves to go into a dark place and I 318 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:26,900 feel like when you have somebody, you can lean on. 319 00:17:26,900 --> 00:17:30,700 It's been there before and can relate with it and you can just 320 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:31,700 feel confident. Hey, look. 321 00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:34,400 This is kind of, you know, par for the course is come to the 322 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:37,100 territory and that's pretty much all you need to kind of get 323 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:39,500 reinvigorated again. Yeah. 324 00:17:39,500 --> 00:17:41,500 Absolutely. I mean I appreciated our 325 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:46,200 conversation but even the fact that you hit on it so well in 326 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,700 the book was it was motivating and inspiring and you know 327 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:54,600 there's comfort knowing you're not alone that others have been 328 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,400 through this and specifically you and so when we reached out 329 00:17:57,400 --> 00:18:03,700 and had that chat I started kind of explaining how I felt and you 330 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,800 obviously have been there numerous times and walked me 331 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,800 through it and This Avery came out on the other side, I think 332 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:14,300 even better. I will say that during the 333 00:18:14,300 --> 00:18:18,000 tapering the macros, you know, that cutting phase. 334 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,400 I had heard and read so many negative things around, you 335 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:28,900 know, tired loss of strength, decreased libido, those types of 336 00:18:28,900 --> 00:18:31,200 things. And I really didn't experience a 337 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:36,900 lot of that and I think that's more compliment towards the keto 338 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:38,800 diet that we brought to this cut. 339 00:18:38,900 --> 00:18:41,700 But then anything, you know, a lot of those readings were 340 00:18:41,700 --> 00:18:45,000 around the traditional, bro, diet when they were doing that 341 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:49,700 cut and I kept saying to you, it's difficult, like this is not 342 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:53,200 easy, it's mind over matter, and so on, but I'm not seeing my 343 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:55,900 weights. Decreasing in the gym. 344 00:18:56,300 --> 00:19:00,600 I still have lots of energy so it was it was super positive. 345 00:19:01,100 --> 00:19:02,600 Yeah, it's funny you bring that up. 346 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,900 I was actually, I was tagged in a social post the other day on 347 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:08,500 Instagram and even really respond because it wasn't really 348 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:11,500 worth Time to engage but they were they were saying something 349 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:15,300 about how it was an ant Aikido post and basically the 350 00:19:15,700 --> 00:19:19,600 individual was going out on a tangent about how she's, you 351 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,000 know, dedicating herself to removing people and the interest 352 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,400 around the kids at night because it's so harmful and it's not 353 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,300 sustainable. And if anybody did it, they 354 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:30,400 wouldn't be able to perform at an elite level and no body, 355 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,100 builders do it and if the body butter was to do it, they die in 356 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:37,300 a week and it's just like like people that spout that 357 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:40,800 negativity have clearly. Lee never done it and certainly 358 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,700 never done it the right way because you know, you saying 359 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:47,200 what you just said about how your performance continue to, 360 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,800 you know, Excel or at least, maintain throughout the caloric 361 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:53,100 deficit. Like that is more often than not 362 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,100 the case with the clients that I've worked with and there's a 363 00:19:56,108 --> 00:19:57,800 lot of ways to skin a cat. There's a lot of ways to get 364 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,000 shredded and place, what a bodybuilding show. 365 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,100 But for me, and my whole passion around, you know, presenting 366 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:07,100 this ketogenic way towards bodybuilding competition prep, 367 00:20:07,100 --> 00:20:11,100 is that it shouldn't have to be This thing where you die a 368 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:13,900 little bit every time you go through it, like, I like that. 369 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,700 I like, you know, going to that place and and, you know, put 370 00:20:17,700 --> 00:20:21,200 myself In Harm's Way so to speak and just suffer and see what I'm 371 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,500 capable of. But at the end, the day, you 372 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:28,300 shouldn't have to to come out of it, worse off than when you went 373 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:30,100 into it. You should come out of it better 374 00:20:30,100 --> 00:20:32,200 off than where you were when you come into it and that should be 375 00:20:32,208 --> 00:20:33,900 the case from a mental standpoint, that should be the 376 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:37,200 case from a physical standpoint. Like if you kill your hormones, 377 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,500 if you kill your metabolism, few, Kill your libido. 378 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,200 If you kill everything, set everybody around you think's, 379 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,600 you this miserable. Miserable wretched, doesn't want 380 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:48,000 you to another prep again, then you're probably doing something 381 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:49,500 wrong. So, anyway to mitigate against 382 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:52,500 that, and this case using a ketogenic approach. 383 00:20:52,900 --> 00:20:55,500 I think that's where people should go with it, you know. 384 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,200 Yeah, I hundred percent agree and maybe as funny as it sounds, 385 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,100 when you get to be my age, you start to think about things like 386 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,400 longevity and and you know, what is sustainable? 387 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,800 And how can you just continue to To increase that longevity and 388 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,900 I'm finding this as really worked. 389 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:16,900 Well for me, I did have an individual. 390 00:21:16,900 --> 00:21:19,300 They asked me at the gym, whatever is doing, how were you 391 00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:22,200 losing this weight and building this muscle and so on. 392 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:28,800 And I said I'm on a ketogenic protocol and of course, they 393 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:33,200 started to bad-mouth that. So I just actually pulled out a 394 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,500 picture of the cover of your book and said that's my coach. 395 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:38,700 He's been doing it for seven plus years. 396 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:42,700 So I'll be thrilled to ever look like Kim. 397 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,500 Well, you you look great man. I mean, I don't think I've ever 398 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:47,600 seen. I don't think I ever saw a 399 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:50,000 picture of you the before picture, maybe you sent him. 400 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 I don't remember when you were the 60 pounds heavier, but I 401 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,900 mean for you to get as lean as he got, as quickly as you got 402 00:21:57,900 --> 00:21:59,700 and as healthfully as you did it. 403 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,800 I mean, whatever you're doing. So obviously working for your 404 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,600 body is responding favorably to it. 405 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:08,600 I mean, the pictures at the end that photo shoot the pictures 406 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,400 that Sent me that I posted on Instagram. 407 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,500 I want not like like that is impressive no matter what age 408 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:15,700 you're at. So for you to be doing it at, I 409 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:18,900 guess you said you were 59 at the time the photo shoot or 58, 410 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,500 59, 59 minutes. And then one of your goals is to 411 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:26,200 compete in the master's class at 60, right? 412 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:27,700 That's correct. Yeah. 413 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:33,600 So I'm taking your advice and as tempting as it is and you 414 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,100 mentioned this numerous times in the book as well, which I 415 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,200 thought was almost ready. Written for me at the tempting 416 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,700 as it is to just want to start right back into it. 417 00:22:42,900 --> 00:22:48,200 My goal is the fall of 2023. So build muscle for 18 months 418 00:22:48,500 --> 00:22:51,900 and then I truly want you. No, get out of my comfort zone. 419 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:56,200 Get on stage for a men's physique, or if we can build my 420 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,500 legs better, a classic physique there. 421 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:02,400 There are some shows in Ontario, and in Canada, that happened 422 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,400 over 60 men's age group. So, I'd like to do that. 423 00:23:06,500 --> 00:23:08,200 Nice nice. Well, we can certainly make that 424 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,700 happen. I've got to ask man. 425 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:13,000 I mean, your, your peer group, The the people that you run 426 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,100 around with that are of similar age. 427 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:20,100 Like, I can't imagine any of them are even comprehending what 428 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:22,000 it is that you're doing, and why you would want to do them. 429 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,400 And I would imagine it look anything else like, like you 430 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,000 either know, that's probably true. 431 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,800 And I think part of them wonders why I'm doing it. 432 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,000 And yet, a number of them ask me questions. 433 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,100 As to, you know, what does my do trician look like? 434 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:38,700 What does my what do my workouts look? 435 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:43,500 Like so I'm sure part of them wishing that they could do it. 436 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:46,600 I will say that I've had it. And I've mentioned this to you, 437 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:52,700 one of my kind of mentors in weight training and body but not 438 00:23:52,700 --> 00:23:56,500 really bodybuilding. But weight training is he is 70 439 00:23:56,500 --> 00:24:01,100 years old right now and looks fantastic is very mobile. 440 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:06,100 He is the one that kind of got me into functional fitness as 441 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:08,200 well. So kettlebells clubs that type 442 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,500 of thing boss. Wait, so I still do that once or 443 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:15,700 twice a week and also factor in the Eighth Day Workout cycle 444 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,800 that you have on your website Roberts. 445 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,200 Oh, well I'm I'm inspired by people that are absolutely 446 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,500 killing it. You know, as they age like for 447 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:27,700 me, I'm 30. I've been bodybuilding since I 448 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:32,200 was 17. I guess first competition was 449 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:37,200 2012 and like I love what I do. I love competing I love every 450 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,800 aspect of the sport but I'm I'm super excited about being able 451 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,800 to continue to do that when I'm you know, when I'm your age, 452 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,400 when I'm 70, when I'm 80 and I feel like especially now, I mean 453 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600 there's been so many bodybuilders in the ifb I have 454 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000 baby League that have died over the past two years. 455 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,200 And you know, there's all kinds of debate as to what the the 456 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,100 Catalyst for that death rate is maybe it's the performance 457 00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:01,600 enhancing drugs. Maybe it's something else. 458 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:04,200 Sure that performance and drugs probably isn't helping their 459 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:08,100 situation, but I feel like when you when you make this a habit 460 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:11,000 when you make this, Laughs down and you just chip away at it 461 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,600 every single day without fail and you, you go through these 462 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,900 healthy building and cutting Cycles in a way that is 463 00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:18,800 sustainable. You truly just keep getting 464 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,700 better and better and better. I mean there that must be 465 00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:26,900 liberating to think that hey look, my next year can be better 466 00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:28,700 than my last year for so many people. 467 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:32,000 They assume there's this, you know, point in time where they 468 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,600 quote, unquote are over the hill, they Crest that hill and 469 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:38,000 then it's just all downhill from there and I think the sport of 470 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,800 bodybuilding And just the nature of the sport itself, you know, 471 00:25:40,808 --> 00:25:43,400 resistance, training, eating and quality diet, especially the 472 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,300 ketogenic diet. Like, there's no reason you 473 00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:49,600 wouldn't be able to get better with each of the past and not 474 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,400 worse, as long as you're, you know, smart about your recovery 475 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,000 in your mobility and you're letting your body heal from 476 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,900 every brutal training session. But if you're doing it, right? 477 00:25:57,900 --> 00:25:59,500 There's no reason why you can't keep getting better. 478 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800 Yeah, I totally agree. And I know in some of our 479 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,500 earlier conversations, I indicated to you that I don't 480 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:10,400 want this to be. Hey, here's a The month cut, you 481 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:15,500 know, get lean, get freaky as you would describe it and then 482 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:18,800 just blow up again. And and so I'm sure you'll 483 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,700 recall you know, even before I a month before my photo shoot I 484 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,400 was reaching out to you asking you about. 485 00:26:26,500 --> 00:26:27,800 Okay. How do we do this? 486 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:31,600 We reverse dieting I really want to kind of be disciplined with 487 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,800 it and be under control because when it comes time for my next 488 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:39,400 cut I know will still take six or seven months but But I don't 489 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,800 want to be at the starting point. 490 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:45,600 I was at, I wanted to be a really slow, gradual, cut and 491 00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,300 exceed the results and our discussions. 492 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:54,300 We are really focusing on doing a lot more leg training this 493 00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:56,400 time around. And seeing if we can build 494 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,700 those, what is your current weight? 495 00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:03,800 I'm 170. I think. 176 this morning. 496 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,100 Yeah, so you're just over, you know, ten pounds. 497 00:27:07,300 --> 00:27:11,400 Like you're within that whole 10 12, 15 pounds from stage, wait 498 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,300 and what your calories at at the moment. 499 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:21,100 You know, I'm at 2405. So it's been a gradual increase. 500 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:29,700 And I'm going to continue to increase them probably when 501 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,300 we're working through. I'm going to try to see where I 502 00:27:32,300 --> 00:27:37,200 feel at 2600 calories. Yeah so you are, I mean you're 503 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,400 set up for Success man. I mean at the same intake before 504 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,000 you were at your you are at a heavier weight than you are now. 505 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,600 And your body is starting to kind of stabilize, your kind of 506 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,900 reaching that metabolic Baseline. 507 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,400 That point at which your maintenance calories are within 508 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,500 reach and you haven't blown up. I mean, right now, we leaned 509 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:04,900 down your photo shoot was. Let's see here on three 19, 20 510 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:08,200 22. It is now 66 2022. 511 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,900 So the fact that you have not blown up and you're not 40 512 00:28:10,900 --> 00:28:13,800 pounds over stage, wait, I mean that's all I need to know that 513 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,100 note to know that you're set up for Success. 514 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:19,000 You've got a good healthy Baseline that you're not going 515 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,200 to have to lose 60 pounds. And next time, you lean down. 516 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,900 So imagine having the same amount of calories. 517 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,600 He's to work with or roughly the same amount of calories, but 518 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,100 you're only having to cut, you know, 15 20 pounds as opposed to 519 00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:32,400 60 pounds, your ability to retain the lean muscle tissue. 520 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,400 You built is going to be enhanced, your ability to enjoy 521 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,100 that process and not have to buy down near as aggressively as 522 00:28:38,100 --> 00:28:40,000 going to be improved. You want to do near as much 523 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,100 cardio. So everything just gets better 524 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,600 and plus your body's been that lean before. 525 00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:46,900 So it's going to be easier to achieve that. 526 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:50,600 And then also, you know, go beyond that because it's not 527 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,500 going to be a new thing to your body. 528 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,300 Yeah, definitely. I'm excited for fall 2023 and 529 00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:02,000 that kind of schedule. And so I keep emphasizing fall 530 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:07,300 of 2023 because I don't want to kind of adjust from that plan. 531 00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:10,500 It's so tempting as you indicate numerous times in the book. 532 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:13,500 You know that, okay, I'm ready to start cutting again but that 533 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,100 I want to be in this for the Long Haul. 534 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:19,100 So when we're talking again in 10 years, and I'm about to do a 535 00:29:19,108 --> 00:29:23,100 show when I'm 70 that everything will be positive, then as well. 536 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,500 Yeah, that is 100% the right mentality, man. 537 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:29,200 I feel like, I feel like very few people have that mindset, 538 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,300 but that's the mindset that everybody should have dumped. 539 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:34,800 Because if you're just, and I spoke about this on podcast at 540 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,100 nauseam, like if you're constantly just in a deficit and 541 00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:40,300 not if you spent more time in a deficit than you aren't a 542 00:29:40,308 --> 00:29:44,300 surplus, you can't possibly get better at a sustainable rate. 543 00:29:44,300 --> 00:29:45,700 Like, it just doesn't work that way. 544 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:48,900 You have to spend more time building than you spend cutting 545 00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:51,800 on average roast, you just simply not going to look 546 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,900 improved. You have to After your, now, you 547 00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:55,400 can probably break those rules a little bit. 548 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000 If you're a newbie, and your kind of racking in those 549 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,700 beginner gains, but if you're a seasoned lifter and you've kind 550 00:30:00,700 --> 00:30:04,200 of, you know, you've been training for five-plus years 10 551 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,200 plus years, then then your ability to add a whole bunch of 552 00:30:07,208 --> 00:30:10,100 lean tissue, especially at a lower intake, is just going to 553 00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:13,100 be substantially hindered. So you have to give yourself 554 00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:15,600 that time in a surplus. Absolutely. 555 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,300 I and I think my age probably factors into that as well. 556 00:30:18,300 --> 00:30:22,600 Robert, whereas, you know, the longer kind of reverse dieting 557 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:28,600 and Every I give myself, then the better I will look and 558 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,100 compete. You know, 18 months down the 559 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:32,900 road. Yeah, totally agree. 560 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,600 Well, what is, what are some other things that you're excited 561 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:36,700 about? I mean, it coming out of the 562 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:41,200 prep coming out of that. Just insane amount of rigidity 563 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:44,800 around tracking, macros going to the gym training and just being 564 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,800 like the quintessential definition of disciplined. 565 00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:51,300 What was it that you are most excited about the kind of return 566 00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:54,900 back in your life and and just continue going forward and a 567 00:30:54,908 --> 00:30:58,300 more enjoyable relaxed right now. 568 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:02,500 So I would say that I'm a bit more relaxed in the gym with my 569 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:04,700 workouts. I still follow, you know, the 570 00:31:04,700 --> 00:31:09,200 Eighth Day Workout cycle that I followed while I was doing that 571 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:17,800 my cutting phase but I do feel like I owe move away some days. 572 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,300 I'll just walk in and say you know today I feel like doing 573 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,400 just more of a functional fitness, so Be a hip, using some 574 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:28,100 kettlebells things like that. It just a bit more freedom. 575 00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:33,300 I feel another is a bit more freedom with my diet. 576 00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:36,900 I if we do go out for dinner I give myself. 577 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:40,800 You know I am still tracking macros daily. 578 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,400 Robert will know this that I used my motto through all of 579 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,900 this was discipline equals Freedom, which is stolen from 580 00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:54,700 Jocko and it's a good one, but I Really, I really feel like when 581 00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:57,600 I'm disciplined with my food, I'm disciplined with every other 582 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,700 aspect in my life and I think the last six or seven months has 583 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,500 really shown that. I'm excited. 584 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,200 That one thing. When you and I were talking 585 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,600 early on when we were kind of just getting started, you asked 586 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:13,900 me, what was one of my biggest concerns? 587 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:19,500 Number one was, you know, being successful at this and then not 588 00:32:19,500 --> 00:32:23,100 blowing up after number two was staying healthy. 589 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,200 They threw up there. So at my age, you know, with the 590 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,600 odd shoulder and knee issue, I just wanted to make sure I was 591 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:34,400 staying healthy and so I think we really focused on, you know, 592 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,700 not over doing it. Making sure I got lots of sleep 593 00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:41,700 and really just talking through, but there was a never, an issue 594 00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:43,500 with a shoulder. Bugging me, what were some 595 00:32:43,500 --> 00:32:45,600 alternative exercises and that type of thing. 596 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,400 So, I was thrilled to say that other than covid, I went through 597 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,900 this heavier training with no issues at all. 598 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:54,900 Oh yeah. I mean there was I mean I don't 599 00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:58,300 I don't recall any issues that would inhibit us from the 600 00:32:58,300 --> 00:33:01,200 training or anything. I mean honestly you were any 601 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,700 like slight tick up like like the, you know, the shoulder or 602 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:06,500 something like that. I mean, we were able to work 603 00:33:06,500 --> 00:33:08,900 around that and then when I seem to have a an issue in the grand 604 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:12,300 scheme of things and like I said, in the beginning, you were 605 00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,600 you were on top of the macros, you know, at all times. 606 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,700 And I think, you know, you kind of got we were alluding to this 607 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:22,300 before we start recording but you know really just making it 608 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:26,000 super simple. Like taking the the macros for 609 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,800 the week and then making it a pretty much the same meals for 610 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,900 the week which honestly like a lot of people would find that to 611 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:35,300 be incredibly boring. I suppose it is there's not much 612 00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,500 variety if you're eating the same thing every single day for 613 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:43,400 a week but I feel like from a from a, from a Effectiveness 614 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,000 standpoint, if you have a goal in mind, trying to reach a 615 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,200 certain composition lose body fat, build muscle, whatever if 616 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,400 you can control for the variables to that degree of See 617 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,300 and then it, you owe it to yourself to see how much more 618 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,600 progress is made when you do that, because it's honestly 619 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,800 astonishing. If you're tracking all your 620 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,500 Macros and consistent with it but you're eating something new 621 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:09,199 every single day and there's just no way to really know 622 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,000 within a degree of certainty. You know what foods, your body 623 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,600 responding well to versus what ones are not. 624 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,800 And you compare that with the degree of accuracy of eating, 625 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,400 the same thing every single day for a week at a time as long as 626 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,000 that same thing, as you know, good. 627 00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:25,100 Good balanced nutrition, good quality, you know, 628 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,100 micronutrients and macronutrients, you know, 629 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,900 minerals and everything your ability to, just get things 630 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:32,900 honed in and really just know with 100% certainty. 631 00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:34,800 What is working and what is not working. 632 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,000 It's just exponentially more Amplified. 633 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,100 I totally agree and I'm not sure that hit home originally Robert. 634 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:45,800 So you mentioned Effectiveness but I would also add to that the 635 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:50,000 efficiency. So it was just so much easier 636 00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,900 with food prep. I know you had mentioned it to 637 00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:57,900 me in our conversations like that, you eat generally the same 638 00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,400 thing for a week and then, if you're, you know, altering 639 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,500 macros, you may add an egg or take off some ground beef, or 640 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,200 however it works. And I don't think that really 641 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,400 hit home. Me until I read the book. 642 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:14,600 So probably about halfway through the seven months that we 643 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,700 were together doing this cut is when I realized, I'm just going 644 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:22,200 to eat the same thing for an entire week and meal prep was so 645 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,600 easy. I definitely didn't get sick of 646 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,700 anything ever. And if I started to not like 647 00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:32,200 something then I just swap it out, you know, for the next few 648 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,200 weeks. But I mean, generally, I like 649 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,700 you, I'm a lot of bags. I'm a lot of Of ground beef and 650 00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:44,500 of course, my go to nighttime. Snack is some pork. 651 00:35:44,500 --> 00:35:50,400 Rind is dipped in sour cream and I kept that going strong until 652 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:54,000 about the last month of the cut and then I remove those as well. 653 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,600 Well, the thing is like when you're in a deficit and when 654 00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,600 you're, you know, decreasing body fats and you just hitting 655 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,800 everything on a day-to-day basis, like you arm, you're 656 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,800 going to be hungry, all right? That's just kind of comes the 657 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,300 territory but if you're eating The same thing and that sounds 658 00:36:09,300 --> 00:36:12,100 very monotonous and there's just a total lack of writing that and 659 00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:14,100 people listen to this. No my gosh I couldn't possibly 660 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,500 imagine doing that when you're in a deficit and you are that 661 00:36:17,500 --> 00:36:21,500 hungry, you don't think of it as feeling deprived you you? 662 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,500 You're excited for that meal. Even if it's the exact same 663 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,800 thing, you've eaten for the past three weeks because that is your 664 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,300 lifeblood that is your that's your energy source. 665 00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,300 Like it's not like something that you that you are no longer 666 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:37,000 looking for to specially with, you know, ketogenic diet with 667 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:38,700 more fat. Macros, like if you were, 668 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:41,200 there's been times in my life where I was living off of, you 669 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:45,500 know, tuna and broccoli and, you know, Bland bowl of chicken 670 00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:47,200 breast. And that one is a little bit 671 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,300 harder to get excited about, but if you're eating, you know, 672 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:52,300 flavorful things that have a good amount of fat in there. 673 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,000 It's hard to feel like you're deprived when you're eating 674 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,800 that, you know, 100% agree, I would often have the cha Falls 675 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,400 as well excluded in there and basically make like a Hamburg 676 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:07,600 and using the Truffle as the bun. 677 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:14,000 I very, very rarely did. I feel deprived, you know, 678 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,100 before our call today I kind of went through. 679 00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:21,000 My, I have a book, it's just my Kido Savage book, I call it and 680 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,900 I have kind of quotes and helpful things and you know, 681 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:26,600 highlighted in certain colors things. 682 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,100 I need to remember, for the next time, we go through the cutting 683 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:35,900 phase and one of on, one of my SOS calls to you, you indicated 684 00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,800 that your wording was Was you just need to be comfortable with 685 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,600 being uncomfortable? I don't think you said you, but 686 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,100 we need to be comfortable with not being comfortable. 687 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:48,800 And that one really stuck with me. 688 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,500 When we were going through that through the tapering component 689 00:37:52,500 --> 00:37:54,800 that cutting phase. It was so true. 690 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,300 Yeah. 100% man hundred percent. Well, let me ask you this since 691 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:01,700 you are so diligent about tracking your Macros, but 692 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,100 obviously everything else to tracking, you know, the 693 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,400 conversations tracking quotes, tracking these things that I 694 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,600 didn't even realize you're tracking. 695 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,500 What are, what are some things that I can do to be better as a 696 00:38:12,508 --> 00:38:13,900 coach? I mean, what are some things I 697 00:38:13,900 --> 00:38:16,100 can do to be better for you? Next time we were together for 698 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:19,800 your next competition prep, what are some things that I can add 699 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,600 to any future editions of the book? 700 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,900 Like how can I be better? Because you are somebody whom, I 701 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:29,500 respect immensely. I value your feedback and I just 702 00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,500 am curious for anything that I can improve upon based off of 703 00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:34,900 you working so closely with me for so long. 704 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:37,600 Thanks, Robert. If you would have asked me that 705 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,700 question. Five months ago, I would have 706 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:43,700 said write a book. So I really don't have anything 707 00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:47,600 to add now. The book is, I mean, I still 708 00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,700 pull it out and read some of your, your different work out 709 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:55,100 some of the recipes. And I can, when I start my next 710 00:38:55,100 --> 00:38:58,600 cut, I mean I will start at the beginning again and read it. 711 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:03,200 I have read the chapter on the tapering Mac Pro's probably 20 712 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,100 times without a job with a Joking. 713 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,200 It's quite true. It's very well written. 714 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:13,800 I really can't think of anything off the top of my head that I 715 00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:19,700 would, like, done differently from a coach client perspective. 716 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,800 Awesome. Well, if anything comes to mind 717 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,400 by all means, let me know. Like, this is something like, 718 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,900 coaching is something that I'm passionate about because it just 719 00:39:26,900 --> 00:39:29,400 keeps me sharp. I mean, I feel like I can I 720 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:30,900 could read nutritional studies all day long. 721 00:39:30,900 --> 00:39:32,200 I can listen to podcasts all day long. 722 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,400 I could have podcasts all day long but I Ink working 723 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,200 one-on-one with people like yourself. 724 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,600 You know real life people everyday people that have a goal 725 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,900 and want to reach that goal and the best way possible. 726 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,000 Most optimal manner possible. I feel like continuing to do 727 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,800 that as, you know, part of my part of my business Endeavors, 728 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,500 part of my day-to-day, that makes me a better businessman 729 00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,800 and makes me a better Coach. It makes me a better person, and 730 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:05,000 it keeps me humble, and it keeps me keeps me learning like it. 731 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,800 Cats, like, I learned something new every single time I work 732 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,900 with, you know, a client, because everyone brings their 733 00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,600 own unique, you know, background into the picture, they all have 734 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,100 their own unique goals, they will have their own unique 735 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:21,300 history, and I feel like it just makes me I get so much from like 736 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:26,500 I feel it's almost selfish at times that I'm coaching because 737 00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:30,100 I get from, it's probably more than some of my clients do at 738 00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,300 some point because I feel like I'm just so much more enriched 739 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:33,800 as a result of that relationship. 740 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,200 So same is true with you. You, you know, by far because 741 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,200 you have been just an outstanding client to work with 742 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,600 you are now someone I consider to be a friend and like I said, 743 00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,900 at the very beginning, I genuinely look forward to every 744 00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:47,400 communication interaction. We have. 745 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,300 Well, that's nice to hear. Thank you so much Robert. 746 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,400 I mean, the are seven months together has been absolutely 747 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:57,600 life-changing. I can't ask for more. 748 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,800 I certainly I know there's probably times where you don't 749 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:07,400 want to post Instagram or YouTube, I find them Those posts 750 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,700 to be extremely motivating, you know, seeing Sean a few months 751 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:17,400 after me on your Instagram feed and, you know, other success 752 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,500 stories and other hints and studies, and that type of thing. 753 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:24,300 It really just keeps me engaged and moving along. 754 00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:28,900 So, if there's days where it's, you know, there's other things 755 00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:30,100 to do. I know. 756 00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:34,100 You're only slightly busy being a dad, coach and entrepreneur, a 757 00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:37,200 husband. A bodybuilder, you know, the 758 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:41,400 podcast, the YouTube just know that it really does impact. 759 00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:44,700 Probably not only your clients, a lot of other people out there 760 00:41:44,700 --> 00:41:46,600 as well. Well I haven't really talked 761 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:51,100 about this yet man, but I think there is there's a lot to be 762 00:41:51,100 --> 00:41:55,700 said for doing things with people that you respect a lot of 763 00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:59,600 a lot to be said for doing things with an emphasis on 764 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,200 camaraderie and I think there is value to be had and going 765 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,300 through hard things with other people that are Like minded. 766 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,300 So you said that you're doing a prep with the intention of 767 00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:16,000 peeking fall of next year. Correct follow 2023. 768 00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,600 Alright, so that is the exact same time that I'm going to be 769 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,100 doing my prep. So we're going to be prepping at 770 00:42:22,100 --> 00:42:24,800 the same time and I'm going to figure out some kind of cool way 771 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,500 to intertwine that and make it like this experiential 772 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,100 experience. A little journey for people that 773 00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:35,200 want to be going through it at the same time. 774 00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,800 I'm and haven't really worked out the Kinks on that yet, but 775 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,400 we'll make that worth everybody's while and I'm super 776 00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,800 excited. Be prepping alongside you as 777 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,400 well as coaching you because I feel like there's just a lot of 778 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:49,300 value to be had in that. Oh, that would be amazing. 779 00:42:49,308 --> 00:42:53,200 I would be honored and thrilled to do that. 780 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,800 Parallel to you, for sure, and I have joked with you often that 781 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:02,200 we're hoping that you can send through FedEx your legs. 782 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,900 So that I can use those for my show, when it's time to hit the 783 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,500 Age a man. Well you're bringing up the 784 00:43:07,500 --> 00:43:08,700 legs. There's no doubt about that. 785 00:43:08,700 --> 00:43:10,700 Every time you were sending a check in photos. 786 00:43:10,700 --> 00:43:13,800 I mean obviously we're getting leaner but you've built a lot of 787 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,500 quality size to like you've got a lot more lean tissue. 788 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,700 I mean you're getting better on all fronts and definition and in 789 00:43:19,900 --> 00:43:22,600 muscle maturity and just, you know, size shape and symmetry 790 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,600 man. So, keep doing what you're 791 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,300 doing. Thanks so much, Robert Peter. 792 00:43:26,300 --> 00:43:28,300 Where can people go to find out more about, you don't know if 793 00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:32,200 your, are you trying to become more active on social and kind 794 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,200 of build and promote your own brand? 795 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:41,300 So to speak, No really. I shared this with you late 796 00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:45,300 after my prep that you reached out to me and said I'd like to 797 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:49,900 post you on my Instagram feed and I said that was actually one 798 00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:52,200 of my goals that I haven't shared with Robert. 799 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:55,900 And sometimes when things got tough, I would think, oh, man, 800 00:43:55,900 --> 00:43:57,700 you want to be on Roberts, Instagram feed. 801 00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:01,200 So I was actually honored and thrilled when you did seek my 802 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,700 approval to be on there. So really, that's the last Step 803 00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:11,300 on my Instagram was just the repost of Roberts so I am that's 804 00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:15,200 not really why I got into this. It was more for my personal 805 00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,300 Venter and gain. I am on their The Hope Reds fan 806 00:44:20,300 --> 00:44:25,000 22 on Instagram. As I'm a Nashville Predators 807 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,600 hockey fan and so you could find me there. 808 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:31,200 Well you should you should definitely and you know, I don't 809 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,200 want to force your hand by any means, but I feel like if you 810 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,200 were to start posting Ting your journey, more publicly. 811 00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:42,500 I feel like you will benefit from that, you know, in ways 812 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:45,700 that I can't even begin to describe as you go through the 813 00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:47,800 remainder of your building phase and your cut. 814 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,700 I mean, for me by putting myself out there publicly, when I'm 815 00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:55,200 doing hard things and know that people are, you know, expecting 816 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,400 something of me. It holds me that much more 817 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:58,900 accountable. So I feel like if you were to 818 00:44:58,900 --> 00:45:02,900 mirror that and your own way with your own style, that will 819 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:06,400 only benefit you that much more. when you go through this next 820 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,800 prep, Yeah, that I totally agree Robert and that makes total 821 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,300 sense, so I will definitely give that some consideration. 822 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,500 Awesome, awesome. Peter always a pleasure man, 823 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:19,100 definitely keep in touch brother. 824 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:23,000 You've got to you getting all my contact info so I will Point 825 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,200 your, your social profile out there so people can follow along 826 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,400 if they're interested in your journey because hopefully you'll 827 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,900 start posting more. But yeah, man. 828 00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,000 Like I said, the very beginning, I just really appreciate you. 829 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,800 I value our relationship, you've been an absolute pleasure to 830 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,700 work with and I'm excited. To see the journey continue to 831 00:45:39,700 --> 00:45:42,300 unfold because I have no doubt that it will continue to be 832 00:45:42,700 --> 00:45:45,400 incredibly inspiring. That's amazing. 833 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,200 Thank you so much, Robert for everything. 834 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,000 It was just a life-changing seven months and I'm just 835 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,900 absolutely thrilled. I can call you a friend and I'm 836 00:45:54,900 --> 00:45:59,800 looking forward to kicking some ass in Fall of 2023. 837 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:00,800 Right? Beside you. 838 00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:02,400 Hey, man. I've got no doubt that you'll be 839 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,200 kicking some ass. I mean, you are literally 840 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,900 redefining what is possible at your age. 841 00:46:06,900 --> 00:46:09,200 And I think that It is incredibly commendable. 842 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,700 It gets me hyped up and excited so keep keep proving the 843 00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:14,000 naysayers wrong. Keep doing what you doing, 844 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,800 brother? Thanks so much. 845 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,200 Robert take care of Peter, take care.