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So I let me pull up some of 
these comments. 

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From previous previous episodes.
Yes, this is prior episode 

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comments to let you all know 
that we do read WE. 

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Do see the comments. 
Yeah, comments, but we have a 

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few. 
Let me go here. 

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So some we always start with 
little singing and somebody said

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what was that comment? 
There's a couple comments 

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regarding whatever song. 
Don't sing that song again. 

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I love this channel. 
Don't ruin it guys. 

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So I'm wondering what what he I?
Forget which song that was. 

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Yeah, that was the last one. 
I think you were singing Baby 

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Shark, Wheels on the Bus, Wheels
on the Bus, go round and round. 

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Really. 
Yeah, I think it's what it was. 

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So we will not sing Wheels on 
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song. 
What are the comments? 

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Were there one was asking about 
cars? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, so I I actually saw that 

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comment and I typed out the list
of cars that I have owned up 

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until this stage of my life or 
driven. 

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You got way more. 
Cars. 

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I do, yeah. 
For some reason I'll. 

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Just start ripping and I'll talk
about my 3. 

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All right, so when I first got 
my learner's permit at 15, my 

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parents had a 1988 brown ugly 
ass Dodge Caravan. 

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And imagine rolling up to 
school, sliding that sliding 

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side door open and your buddy's 
getting out and you're unloading

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out of a Dodge Caravan. 
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had, my dad had a think it was 
an 891989 Ford Ranger. 

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Like extended cab, old manual 
transmission. 

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I got to drive that and me and 
one of my buddies, my best 

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buddies were actually a couple 
buddies. 

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We were just cruising on some 
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we hit a huge water puddle and 
it splashed up all underneath 

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the the, the motor compartment 
and the undercarriage and 

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everything. 
And it cracked one of the 

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headers. 
My dad was so upset 'cause I 

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came back in the driveway after 
that and the truck was so loud. 

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It was like straight exhaust 
right out of the header 'cause 

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it was cracked. 
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the hood and you could look down
in there and it was like, like 

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it was cracked, cracked. 
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that thing apart and swapping 
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He was not a happy camper. 
But so I had a Dodge Caravan and

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a Ford Ranger. 
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learning to drive. 
When I got my license, my 

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parents bought me a little Ford 
Bronco two. 

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It was just like this little 
unit that I just love to just 

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cart around. 
In 2 doors right? 

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2 doors. 
Yeah. 

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And it was pretty. 
It's pretty neat. 

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That was the first vehicle I 
technically owned and drove on 

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my own. 
It's where I took myself to my 

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first job. 
I kind of just kind of got my 

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feet wet driving around by 
myself with my buddies and going

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and doing all kinds of stuff. 
Well, one afternoon I was having

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a great day before work. 
I would do some shopping and I 

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was coming home and I was on a 
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came around the corner at a stop
sign and I kind of fishtailed a 

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little bit sideways. 
It started kind of drifting and 

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drifting and drifting and lost 
traction. 

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I straightened it out and then a
little bit I went over a bridge 

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and as I can't kind of came up 
off, I think I lost a little bit

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of traction and I came down and 
I started fishtailing a little 

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bit more. 
I was screwing around, going too

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fast, I know, and I ended up 
spinning around and going in the

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ditch and put the thing on its 
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So I was hanging there by my 
seat belt and the passenger side

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was empty. 
That just my clothes and stuff 

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that I had bought that was all 
getting wet 'cause it was 

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starting to fill up with water 
in this road ditch. 

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It was a pretty deep ditch and 
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And I was only half a block from
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I could, I walked home. 
I could literally see it from 

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climbing out. 
I climbed out like an army tank.

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I had to push the door up and 
open, climb out the top, walked 

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home, called my parents. 
I was fine. 

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Called the tow company. 
Tow company came and they ended 

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up totalling the vehicle by the 
way they got it out of the 

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ditch. 
They had to hook on the over on 

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the underside and like roll it 
up out of the ditch, but they 

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rolled it onto its roof and then
back onto its wheels, so they 

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completely crushed it. 
How are your clothes? 

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Wrecked, wrecked. 
So I was like so excited. 

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I had just gotten a job. 
This is my first car. 

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It was a sunny, sunny, sunny 
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going to go do some shopping. 
I got to work tonight and just 

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wrecked my whole day. 
So that was my first vehicle. 

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After that I had a Pontiac Grand
Am GT 2 door that was that was 

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hot with all the ladies of 
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How old were you at that point? 
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kind of that end of high school 
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You know, you, you get the loud 
stereo in there and you do all 

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that kind of fancy shit after 
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I think my next one, because I 
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My next one I was working at a 
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guy and somebody traded in a 
single owner mint condition 1999

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Cadillac STS 4 door V8. 
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Like this deep maroon specialty 
paint colour Chrome wheels. 

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It was like any high school 
college kids dream like stock 

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stereo was thumping. 
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After that I traded up to a 
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That was when the Regal 
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They came out with the all new 
body styling back in that time 

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era and they looked like a 
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It was fun. 
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After that I got a Chrysler 200.
After that I picked up a 2015 

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Chevy Colorado Z71. 
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A pretty slick little. 
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Yeah, that those are nice. 
They're really come a long ways.

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As a mid size truck they are 
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Super versatile. 
A lot of people like totally 

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convert them for like off road 
camping, like they'll put the 

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rack on there in the tent and 
it's like perfect 'cause you can

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get in some pretty narrow 
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And they're not big. 
I use it for doing home 

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inspections so I could get, you 
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was 4 wheel drive and you know, 
had some suspension or some, a 

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little bit of a lift and 
everything. 

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So then while I was doing home 
inspections, that was my primary

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gig, I picked up a secondary 
vehicle just kind of as my fun 

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sport around town kind of 
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That was a 2016 Tesla Model 
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And that'll break. 
They don't have all those 

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designations anymore. 
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you just there's only like 2 
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That meant it was Tesla Model 
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So it's a performance version of
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I think it's kWh capacity 
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The D meant it was dual motor. 
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motor. 
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So I will drive. 
The L designated that it had a 

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ludicrous mode, which was a 10 
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at the time and the plus after 
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Ludicrous plus mode, which was 
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So anyways, this Tesla, I wasn't
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but I was doing pretty good by 
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self-employment. 
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You know, I'm going to just find
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If I can find a used one, I'm 
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So I found this used one on the 
Tesla website. 1 owner free 

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unlimited supercharging that 
would transfer from that first 

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owner to one more owner, which 
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And like I got a test drive 
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So I went and test drove a Tesla
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know, high performance 1. 
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crazy. 
So I ended up getting that drove

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that for a couple years, even 
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some street legal nights, smoked
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And there I am just like you 
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it's, you know, there's no 
noise. 

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It's pretty crazy. 
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Got rid of that. 
Traded my Chevy Colorado and my 

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Tesla in for a 22 Ford Bronco. 
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that are more recent. 
That was pretty cool. 

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Didn't any, didn't need anything
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anymore because I relocated 
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So just recently actually last 
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in for what I have now and it's 
a Kia K5. 

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So how many is that in total? 
So that is including the two 

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that my parents had as I was 
learning. 

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That's 12345678910. 
I'm on 11 or 12. 

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Yeah, me, me, man. 
But you, you were telling me the

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other day like you hang on to 
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of them. 
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So my first vehicle, my 
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away, I got his old truck. 
It was a 1975 long wheelbase 

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Chevy pickup truck and it was I 
called it the Blue Goose. 

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It was baby blue and I was super
proud of it, but it did. 

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I spent more time working on it 
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Had a four barrel carburetor. 
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that and you just like literally
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Oh yeah, I bet. 
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So terrible gas mileage, 
terribly hard to park. 

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Like I always got in trouble at 
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Like people would call me up to 
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move my truck because I would 
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And since it was long wheelbase 
and there was no like power 

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steering or anything in it, like
I would take up two spots every 

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time no matter what. 
So I was always getting trouble 

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for that. 
So that was my first vehicle and

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then I needed to get something 
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I wanted to like actually own 
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So I basically was working 4 
separate odd end jobs like you 

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know, cutting some firewood in 
the winter, doing a whole bunch 

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of yard work in the summer, 
mowing, weed, eating, all that 

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jazz. 
And I did that working for my 

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uncle, saved up $5000 and my 
folks lent me another $1000 and 

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I bought the truck that I 
currently have that I've had the

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majority of my life. 
It's a 2004 3.7 liter V6 Dodge 

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Ram pickup truck. 
That's your white one. 

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Yeah, and it's manual 
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manual transmission, manual 
everything. 

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But I love that truck. 
Like I've got so many memories 

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in that truck, like taking the 
place as a 2 wheel drive truck 

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should never go, getting stuck 
on numerous occasions. 

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I mean that truck was what 
Crystal met me in. 

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So that was like the truck that 
we were dating them when we 

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moved from Washington back to 
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I took all my belongings and fit
it in the back of that truck 

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because I didn't have much. 
I built a big wooden box behind 

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it, plywood box and put all my 
stuff in there, strapped it 

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shut, drove from Washington to 
Arkansas and that was my truck. 

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And then when we when we moved 
back here, I was convinced that 

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we were going to do the whole 
van life thing, like I was broke

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in any money. 
And so we're just going to let 

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live on minimal means and we're 
going to live out of a van that 

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we convert into like a livable 
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So I bought a 2020, I believe, 
maybe no 2018 Dodge Ram, those 

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cargo vans, Promaster, I think 
is what it was. 

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And that's what we had that 
we're going to convert and live 

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out of. 
But that's when the keto brick 

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started picking up. 
So we started using that for the

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business like shuttle and 
supplies and ingredients and 

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stuff back and forth to the 
kitchen. 

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So that became that was pretty 
much my daily driver too, 

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though, because like I would 
have my truck, but it was always

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breaking down on me. 
So I was using this big freaking

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cargo van as Crystal and my 
daily driver because she had 

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like this Chevy Cobalt that was 
totally junk and that kind of 

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crapped out on her. 
So we're just using this cargo 

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van in my truck as our daily 
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So I had that and then I bought 
in 22 about my current truck, 

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which is that 22,022 GMC Sierra 
SLT30500, big massive truck, 

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22,500 LB tow capacity because I
eventually want to get like 

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tractors and travel trailer and 
stuff for going to competitions 

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and conferences. 
So I wanted to get something 

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that I could tow anything I 
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So that's what I've got now. 
Plus neither the cargo van or my

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truck could have a car seat. 
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like when we had Roger, like we 
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car seat. 
So I got that. 

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So we feel safe driving it. 
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upgraded from the Cobalt to 
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That's pretty much her car. 
So she's got that, I've got the 

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truck and then that's pretty 
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I guess we got that rig. 
So the cargo van crapped out on 

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the way to keto Con one year 
transmission went the bunk. 

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I think you were with us right 
Chip, like we, we had to move on

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the way to the conference for 
like running short on time the 

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transmission totally. 
And you had a bunch of bricks 

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and product. 
And Oh yeah, we had all of our 

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boost supplies, the apparel 
stuff, all of our bricks. 

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It's like middle of the 
summertime headed down to Texas 

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for the conference, and the 
transmission craps out not very 

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far from here. 
Like, I think probably we'd made

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it about an hour before the 
transmission went belly up. 

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So like, OK, what do we do? 
So we went and got a U-Haul 

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truck and then transferred 
everything from the van to EU 

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Haul. 
Went there for the conference. 

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And on the way back, I called 
the dealership that we had 

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dropped it off on. 
And they're like, yeah, it's 

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pretty much totaled. 
So what do you want to do? 

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And I'm like, well, will you buy
it from me? 

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So I sold them the van. 
They're on site pretty much. 

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And then I bought that 1999 
Freightliner, massive ambulance 

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conversion as our company 
vehicle. 

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So now we've got that gnarly 
looking, you know, rig out 

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front. 
Looks like a SWAT vehicle. 

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Yeah, looks like a SWAT vehicle.
Flat black painted. 

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We'll we'll get like a wrap on 
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technically one of our vehicles 
as well. 

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So sweet. 
That's pretty much my list right

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there man. 
Yeah, Speaking of vehicles, 

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super funny story, kind of on a 
little bit of a tangent, but not

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necessarily one of the keto 
cons. 

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No, it was the convention in 
Omaha, I think. 

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Yeah, hard to kill. 
Hard to kill. 

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Nope. 
It was Keto Con in Texas. 

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I think it was one of the years 
before I worked for you guys and

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I was going to fly in I wasn't 
going there on behalf of Keto 

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Brick or Liv Savage or anything 
like that. 

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I was just going as an attendee 
kind of meet up with you guys 

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and just be there. 
And I, I was trying to pinch 

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pennies a little bit during that
trip or save a few bucks here 

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and there as I could. 
So when I went to choose a 

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rental car, I said just one of 
the one of the best prices was 

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just the economy dealer's choice
or manager's choice or whatever.

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And it didn't tell you what you 
were going to get. 

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So I chose that just because it 
was the cheapest option. 

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It was just myself. 
So I get to the Hertz counter or

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whatever and I'm like, hey, 
yeah, I'm just here to pick up 

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my reservation or my rental. 
And they're like, OK, what's 

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your number? 
That I give them all my 

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information and they're like, 
OK, it looks like you chose 

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manager special. 
So that just means we allocate 

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whatever we have a lot of 
currently on the lot, like 

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whatever we no one's renting for
the day. 

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That's what we throw you. 
And I'm like, OK, cool, what's 

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that? 
It's a 2022 cargo van. 

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Like full length cargo van, no 
windows, nothing. 

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And I'm like, you realize what 
this is going to look like with 

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a dude with a mustache cruising 
around in a town. 

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He has no idea where he's going.
I don't even know. 

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I didn't even get that far. 
I'm like, what are my other 

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options? 
Like well, for this amount of 

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money you can upgrade and we can
put you in this or whatever. 

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And I end up getting like a 
Dodge Challenger or something. 

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So my penny pinching endeavour 
actually backfired and I ended 

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up paying more for the upgraded 
vehicle than what I could have 

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from the onset. 
So. 

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You have a cargo van man. 
Man, if you ever do the 

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manager's Choice or whatever 
they call it on there, that 

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doesn't show you what you're 
going to get, just be, yeah, you

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don't know what you're going to 
get. 

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Yeah. 
So, yeah, that was one of the 

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listener comments was a car 
breakdown. 

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We had a few others asking about
like cortisol question or not 

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cholesterol questions rather. 
I'm about LDL. 

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I'm going to do a deep dive on 
that one. 

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So I'm not going to talk about 
that. 

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Now. 
Protein threshold, I've done 

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quite a few topics on that, but 
we've got quite a few questions 

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in here, so we might not just 
like we should. 

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Yeah, we should do like AQ and a
session. 

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So keep the questions coming 
guys. 

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If you have anything specific 
you wanna yeah chat about, we 

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can. 
We'll just, we'll probably do 

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that next week. 
Honestly. 

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We'll just take all the 
questions, put them in a list 

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and we'll just tackle. 
Try to hit a few of them. 

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Yep, so that'd be good. 
But in other news, still no 

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baby. 
Still no baby, You guys are what

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you're overdue now, right? 
Or. 

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You. 
Due date week. 

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Due date week was last week, so 
yeah, we're technically over the

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40 week mark and Rigel was late 
too, so we kind of anticipated 

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this. 
Everybody says second baby comes

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sooner but you. 
Know that's just. 

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The way our our world works. 
He's just in there baking. 

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The baby, yeah, I, I told we're 
talking yesterday in the meeting

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and like he's going to come out 
with a full set of hair. 

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I'm like, man, he's not even 
working on the hair right now. 

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He's already got that. 
He's working on the mustache 

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now, so. 
He's already employed, he's 

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going to clock in when he comes.
Out. 

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Yeah, for sure we could use him.
We could use him, yeah. 

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So still no baby. 
So Crystal's getting kind of 

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antsy, stir crazy. 
She's doing all the stretches, 

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all the spinning babies, all the
stuff, trying to get this little

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guy moving. 
But. 

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'Cause you have family in town 
that's ready to help, right? 

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Yeah, so her sister Heather and 
daughter Caroline, they came in 

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prior to the 40 week mark cause 
Crystal was convinced that he 

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was going to come a little bit 
early. 

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So she they came to help with 
Rigel and if we had to go to the

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hospital, like they could be at 
home with Rigel. 

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So she kind of feels bad for her
because she hadn't her come 

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early and was still waiting on 
the baby. 

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I mean, there she's she's a 
school teacher, so they're out 

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for the summer right now anyway.
So she's flexible, but she's 

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obviously away from all of her 
family in Washington. 

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So yeah, just kind of one of 
those situations, you know, 

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hurry. 
Up and wait. 

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But yeah, I mean, at this point,
I mean, like, she's doing 

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everything she can do. 
And it's like you just got to 

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have faith, hope for the best, 
hope all is healthy, and be at 

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peace with it. 
Can't force nature. 

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Can't force nature. 
That's what we got going there. 

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We got all of my I don't. 
Did we talk about blood work on 

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the Last Work podcast? 
We may have a little bit with 

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some of your FGF 21 high fat. 
I don't think I had the hormones

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back yet. 
Probably not, no. 

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You didn't have hormone stuff? 
Back so I'm about to do a full 

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blown dedicated podcast on that 
experiment specifically. 

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So I'm not going to go into 
crazy detail with that here, but

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I will say I took three weeks in
between blood draws, had that 

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week kind of returned to 
baseline intake of 3000 

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calories, kind of like a 
washout, intuitive eating. 

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Then I did the experiment for 
two weeks, eating 1000 calories 

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above baseline. 
So 4000 calories a day, 400 

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grams of fat a day, less than 9%
of my calories coming from fat. 

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And in that time between lab 
markers, all of my lipids 

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improved, which was interesting.
I mean, my triglycerides 

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dropped, my LDL dropped. 
Like did not expect that eating 

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twice as much fat. 
Basically. 

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What I really didn't expect was 
my hormone markers. 

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I didn't really honestly expect 
much of a change in such a short

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time period. 
But my total testosterone more 

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than doubled, went from 334 to 
696, and then my free 

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testosterone went from I think 
like 27 to 56. 

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So it practically doubled as 
well. 

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Did you say that? 
Did you say 9% of your calories 

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coming from fat? 
Protein. 

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Protein. 
OK, I I I thought I heard you 

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say fat, but just to clarify in 
case. 

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You didn't. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, like fat was. 
Super super. 

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High fat to 87%. 
Super low. 

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Protein super low. 
Kind of mimicking the amount of 

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protein in the SD sugar diet. 
Yes, pretty much mimicking the 

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basically the exact opposite. 
So for all intents and purposes 

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and for hyped up headlines, you 
could theoretically say I more 

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than doubled my testosterone 
naturally doing the exact 

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opposite of the sugar diet. 
That'd be a little viral click 

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bait thing for you. 
So I don't know what the 

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hormones would look like had I 
done the sugar diet, but I'm 

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obviously not going to do the 
sugar diet. 

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But I would have a hard time 
thinking that it would have a 

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doubling effect to testosterone 
like this has. 

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Well, I think some of the people
who are venturing down the sugar

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diet pathway, are they doing 
this type of blood work? 

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I don't. 
Know I mean I'm I don't know if 

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people are as. 
Are they just? 

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I think they're just. 
Kind of winging it. 

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I mean, I'm sure something 
you're just. 

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Trying to get shredded. 
Yeah, that's yeah. 

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And see, that was not my goal. 
Like I didn't, I increased 

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calories, I didn't drop calories
or even keep calories constant. 

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So interesting to say, Liz, I'm,
I'm going to again talk about 

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this in depth on my experiment 
podcast, but I think this would 

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have two specific use case 
scenarios. 

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One, if you're in a longer prep 
and you want to have a bump in 

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your metabolic rate like you, so
we'll try that for you after 

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your first competition, 'cause 
you'll still have another two 

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months of prep. 
So increase your calories, 

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increase your fat ratio. 
Now the only thing I'm thinking 

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it's just a quick math here. 
Man, is it? 

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Is it really two months? 
I'm gonna die. 

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Yeah, 'cause I mean, if you're 
if you're first, your. 

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Show is 12 1/2 weeks from today,
so yeah, it'll be 10 weight. 

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It'll be holy. 
If you do a show in November, 

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man, it's it's going to be 
crazy. 

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But The thing is like the way I 
structured my experiment was I 

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had 9% of my calories coming 
from protein and I was eating 

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4000 calories. 
So if we wanted to mimic the 

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same thing with you. 
So let's just say you're at 2000

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calories. 
Yeah, 'cause right now I'm out 

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around 1718 hundred refeeds, 
weekly refeeds are now in play. 

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So it kind of averages a little 
higher for the for the daily 

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intake over the week. 
Right. 

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But if we if we just wanted to 
make it simple, say 2000 

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calories, 9% of that is 180 that
divided by 4, that's 45 grams of

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protein a day. 
So for you to do the experiment 

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with the same, you know, 
replicating the same format that

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I did. 
So what? 

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Would my fat intake be then? 
It's about a four to one ratio. 

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Is it grams or calories? 
It's it's 4 to one in grams. 

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In grams, so 4 to one, that's 
180 grams of fat roughly. 

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Yeah, so quite a bit more fat 
and and that that's counting 

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carbs and protein. 
And I wasn't quite at 4:00 to 

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1:00 like Nick and I were doing 
it together and I think he was 

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doing it based off of net carbs.
And I've always tracked total 

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carbs. 
So my total carbs would have 

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knocked me out of that 4:00 to 
1:00, but not by much. 

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And I had to pretty much find 
some way to absorb all the fat 

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that I was eating. 
So I was eating a lot of 

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cauliflower rice which I don't 
normally normally eat, but I 

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00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:08,680
would have like 200 to 300 grams
of cauliflower rice at night to 

449
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,400
absorb the 8 tablespoons of 
butter and ghee that I was 

450
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,080
having. 
Sweet. 

451
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,200
I'm excited to try that because 
that'll be, you know, hands on 

452
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,480
experiment that hasn't been 
probably leveraged in any preps.

453
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,360
Yeah, ever. 
Yeah, it'll be interesting for 

454
00:22:22,360 --> 00:22:24,600
sure. 
But we'll try it with you and I,

455
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,600
I feel safe trying it with you 
because I'll be able to see your

456
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,920
body's response and do whatever 
tests you want real time with 

457
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,760
you here on site. 
But if it goes terribly awry, 

458
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,720
we've got plenty of time before 
your next show. 

459
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,720
So this would be the ideal time 
to test it down. 

460
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:46,000
And then if it works and I'm 
also able to replicate it and 

461
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,960
myself when I do my next prep 
and it I'm able to replicate it 

462
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:53,080
to my clients as well, then 
we'll make like a stand alone 

463
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,640
submodule in the course for this
as a use case scenario in a prep

464
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,680
and that'll be added to the 
Savage system protocol. 

465
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,400
We can get some sweet content 
out of it, too, yeah, some good 

466
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,480
data, some good content. 
We could do Dexas. 

467
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:06,960
We could do the whole thing. 
Blood work. 

468
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,160
Dexas compositioning. 
It'd be hard to get any viable 

469
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,400
feedback like on a DEXA scan 
with because I mean we would 

470
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,440
probably only do it for a week. 
Maybe 2? 

471
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,440
And like a two week gap between 
DEXA you probably. 

472
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,480
Won't see much fluctuation there
but the blood. 

473
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,280
Work. 
I mean, seeing a doubling effect

474
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:27,080
on testosterone was insightful. 
You know, 'cause I mean, your 

475
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,400
testosterone's always at a 
baseline much higher than mine, 

476
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,120
but it's still waning with for 
you in this prep. 

477
00:23:34,120 --> 00:23:36,880
I mean, it's dropped down like 
300 or 400. 

478
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,360
Points a couple 100. 
Points, I think, yeah. 

479
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:44,560
So if we can have an acute flux 
upwards of that halfway through 

480
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,000
your prep or on the tail end of 
your prep, that would be 

481
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,080
obviously advantageous. 
So it'll be good. 

482
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,000
Awesome. 
But I have to warn you, man, I 

483
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,520
don't think you're going to feel
more satiated even with eating 

484
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,280
more calories because I mean, 45
grams of protein and nothing but

485
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,640
a bunch of oils. 
I mean, like you're going to get

486
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,400
less food volume than you 
currently, right? 

487
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:05,800
So. 
But I can probably squeeze in 

488
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,280
some extra brick. 
Yeah, you can definitely squeeze

489
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,000
in some brick, some fatty 
coffee, So it'll be a nice 

490
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,560
change of base for you for sure,
probably. 

491
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,280
Fatty coffee and a little brick 
every morning. 

492
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,040
Yeah, that duck fat came in 
clutch though for me. 

493
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,680
Those cans of duck fat? 
I meant to. 

494
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,040
Tell you, I think I have some 
duck fat. 

495
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:27,840
Got some duck fat and some oh 
man, what is it? 

496
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,440
Forget maybe some rendered pork 
fat or something at home. 

497
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,600
I forget. 
Got a couple jars from like 

498
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,240
Epic. 
The duck fat's good. 

499
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,520
And then I was doing that SCT 
oil, which is pretty good. 

500
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,560
I like that a lot. 
It's tasty. 

501
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,920
So yeah, that's cool. 
I'm excited to do the deep dive 

502
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,360
recording on that. 
I don't know if Nick's going to 

503
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:49,480
use my data or not because I 
didn't because I had already 

504
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:53,840
started an experiment before he 
wanted to join forces on this 

505
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,720
experiment. 
So like my run in week period 

506
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,640
skewed things a little bit and 
from like a strictly speaking 

507
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,560
scientific all variables 
controlled standpoint like it 

508
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,520
may negate the findings, but I 
know my body, I know what my 

509
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:11,560
maintenance is. 
I know. 

510
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,360
I mean, I've got years, I've got
like 17 years of tracked macro 

511
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:17,480
data. 
You are pretty anal with all the

512
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,600
apps and the data I. 
Mean everything. 

513
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,240
So like I know how my body 
responded and how to be 

514
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720
actionable with that 
information, whether or not he 

515
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,360
wants to put it into a, you 
know, a scientific based paper 

516
00:25:32,120 --> 00:25:34,360
that I mean, that's I totally 
understand, like I he's. 

517
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,640
He's super analytical. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

518
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,200
He's. 
Wealth of information, super 

519
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,920
knowledgeable, but I'm coming at
it more from like, OK, how can I

520
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,000
use this for my clients? 
How can I apply this to actual 

521
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,480
human beings, especially in the 
context of a competition prep or

522
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,120
composition goals. 
So you have different strategies

523
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:54,640
that you get in that I guess in 
that regard. 

524
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,280
But we'll see. 
He and I are going to do another

525
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,400
follow up call at some point, 
I'm sure. 

526
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,680
Cool. 
So that's exciting. 

527
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,760
We got some, we're working on 
some some carnivore bricks in 

528
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,680
the kitchen right now. 
Not going to tell you what the 

529
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,160
flavour is just yet, but they're
carnivore bricks. 

530
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,040
They're going to be good. 
Speaking of working on bricks in

531
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,840
the kitchen, we've been trying, 
we've been, we've been using a 

532
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:23,560
newer style packaging film to 
try to counteract any potential 

533
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,160
leakage. 
So it is a thicker multi layer 

534
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:31,040
membrane has to run through our 
machinery at a different speed 

535
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:37,160
so that it has enough time to 
heat seal and it's thicker so 

536
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,160
our machine back there is 
ornery. 

537
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,040
Finicky. 
So I think we talked about this 

538
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:44,960
a little. 
Bit we may have, but we just 

539
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,760
yesterday, was it yesterday or 
two days ago where we had just 

540
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,760
a? 
Yeah, So we, we're not doing 

541
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,720
cold packs this summer because 
they're hit and miss. 

542
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,280
Half time they work, half time 
they don't. 

543
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,680
And we it was. 
A waste of money? 

544
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,400
Yeah, it was a waste of money. 
So, OK, if we can't do the cold 

545
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,920
packs, let's just invest more 
in, you know, packaging that's 

546
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840
guaranteed not to leak 
practically. 

547
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,680
So we're using two times thicker
film, more than two times 

548
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,360
thicker film. 
Two times the cost film. 

549
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720
Two times the cost film. 
It's a cosmetic web film. 

550
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,200
I think it's like 4 layers. 
I'm not sure I'd look at the 

551
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,640
spec sheet, but it's literally 
rated to go to the moon from a 

552
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,680
pressure sensitive standpoint. 
Whereas most packaging is rated 

553
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,640
to like get over the Rocky 
Mountains out West, this is 

554
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,560
rated to like go to the moon 
without bursting. 

555
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,000
Wind sealed properly. 
Yeah, wind sealed properly. 

556
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,080
So 'cause like if the bricks 
melt in the summer, especially 

557
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,800
the tallow ones, which they're 
practically guaranteed to do, 

558
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,080
like that just kind of is what 
it is. 

559
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:41,960
You can throw them in your 
fridge. 

560
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,600
They're totally fine to eat the 
taste just fine. 

561
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,840
They may not look like bricks. 
They're going to be a little 

562
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,880
bit, you know, deformed, 
misshapen, but all the quality 

563
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:50,200
of the ingredients are still 
intact. 

564
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,960
But if they, if the packages 
burst due to poor package 

565
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,640
sealing, like that's on me. 
Like I need to fix that problem,

566
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,680
which is why we're doubling down
on this, you know, film upgrade.

567
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,480
But anytime you change anything 
in production, especially with a

568
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,120
machine that's finicky like 
ours, it's a headache. 

569
00:28:10,120 --> 00:28:13,400
You know, like we've had to 
read, we have to test things 

570
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:18,040
out, change the the settings and
troubleshoot non-stop. 

571
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:22,160
And we burned through a lot of 
film that we can't use, but we 

572
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,280
got it sealing good as of 
yesterday. 

573
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,400
As of yesterday, it was on a. 
It was on a sweet roll 

574
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,520
yesterday. 
Once we got it rolling, it was 

575
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:31,960
non-stop. 
It's good. 

576
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,880
And I'm, I'm really optimistic 
about these because we've had a 

577
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,440
few people e-mail saying that 
their packages were burst, but 

578
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,360
they were all that. 
I could tell from chocolate 

579
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400
peanut buttercup bricks that 
we're still using the old film, 

580
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,520
whereas now we've pretty much 
switched everything. 

581
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,440
I think there's a few tack and a
few toasted almond, coconut, a 

582
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,680
few mocha, but those seem to 
seal better anyways. 

583
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,280
But these everything pretty much
going forward with this new 

584
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,000
thicker film is like 
bulletproof. 

585
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,360
So I'm super excited about that.
Yes, that's good. 

586
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Good upgrade. 
I think that's worth the 

587
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,280
investment. 
Once we get all the kinks kind 

588
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,320
of worked out, that's going to 
be definitely worth it going 

589
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,400
forward, that these will be 
pretty much leak proof. 

590
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,680
And if you get them that if you 
get them in the mail and they're

591
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,800
melted or they're soft, you can 
kind of mush them around and 

592
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,040
kind of remix the ingredients if
you still want to, and then 

593
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,040
throw them in the fridge, throw 
them in the freezer, let them 

594
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,600
harden for a little while and 
pull them out and they'll be 

595
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,480
just fine. 
Yeah. 

596
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,720
And we got stickers that I think
coming in today, say refrigerate

597
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,280
upon arrival. 
That way people can just 

598
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,120
proactively, if they're, 
especially if they're living in 

599
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,080
some place hot, you know, get 
the box, stick it in the fridge,

600
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,880
let it, you know, sit there for 
a few hours overnight and then 

601
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,840
then they're good. 
Then they're stable at room 10. 

602
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,600
Because we're we're also trying 
to put them into the boxes in a 

603
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,920
way that they somewhat hold 
their shape. 

604
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,120
So even if they do all liquefy 
and you have 10 of them jammed 

605
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,480
in a cardboard box, if you can 
throw that in the refrigerator 

606
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,800
before you take them 
out-of-the-box and let them re 

607
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,720
solidify in their how they are 
arranged in the packaging, 

608
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,200
they'll probably be close to the
same shape. 

609
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:04,400
You know, they'll probably be 
we're. 

610
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:05,520
Packing them in there like 
sardines. 

611
00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,440
We're trying to. 
That's why we moved away from 

612
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,440
the mailers, because we were 
just putting them on mailers, 

613
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,280
but then you put them in a 
Mailer. 

614
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,560
And then just mush then. 
Then you got a mushy Mailer of. 

615
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,240
Mush and like the carriers are 
super hard on the stuff. 

616
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,120
You know, it's like they're 
throwing boxes on top of the 

617
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,640
mailers and just squishing 
everything. 

618
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,160
But now that everything's in 
boxes like that, offers a lot. 

619
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,480
More stackable, you know, they 
can stack them better in their 

620
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,600
trucks. 
These UPS trucks and these FedEx

621
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:31,520
trucks, they're like 150° back 
there, you know, like there's no

622
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,680
way our cold packs would have 
can handle that no matter what. 

623
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,400
Even if we do overnight shipping
at, you know, and charge a 

624
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,680
pretty penny or something. 
It's like you just don't control

625
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,000
once it leaves our house or 
leaves our warehouse, we can't 

626
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,920
control it. 
Yeah. 

627
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,960
So it's wild. 
So we're trying to set them up 

628
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
for success and control for what
We can't control them. 

629
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:50,800
That's about all we can do. 
Kind of like life. 

630
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,240
Kind of like life. 
Control what? 

631
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,440
Kind of like life? 
What else is new and upcoming? 

632
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,960
Prep Prep next week is peak 
week. 

633
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,200
Next week is peak. 
For this is kind of like a trial

634
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,480
show. 
I know I'm not going to be 100% 

635
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:07,720
dialed in as best as I have the 
potential to be for this show, 

636
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,480
but. 
You're going to look good 

637
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:09,280
though. 
I'm going to look good. 

638
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,000
I feel good. 
I'm going to use this one as 

639
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:13,480
like this is a super fun show 
for me. 

640
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,560
This is the Wisconsin Warriors 
USBF Federation. 

641
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,440
It's in Eau Claire, WI. 
I know Tony and Courtney Spaeth,

642
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,640
they are the promoters. 
She is like you got to look her 

643
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,840
up. 
If you guys don't know who she 

644
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,760
is, she is like she went to 
Japan and represented the US and

645
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,640
absolutely dominated. 
She dominates all the shows she 

646
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,000
competes in. 
She's 100% natural and she just 

647
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,640
smokes all the unnatural 
athletes and they they have a 

648
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,400
gym in Eau Claire. 
I've been to their competition 

649
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,680
numerous years in the past. 
I've actually helped them 

650
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:46,360
volunteer to expedited athletes 
backstage, help them set up, 

651
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,720
tear down. 
They have a gym right in town. 

652
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,320
It's pretty cool because the how
it's set up is their show is at 

653
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,240
a place called Oh crap brain 
fart. 

654
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,440
Super nice venue right downtown.
And then the hotel, the host 

655
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,600
hotel, the Lismore is within 
walking distance of the venue so

656
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,280
you don't even have to take your
car out. 

657
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,920
And then their gym, which is 
obviously the host gym, is also 

658
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,680
within walking distance. 
It's a very beautiful downtown 

659
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:12,960
area. 
That's where all like the photo 

660
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,120
shoots are going to happen. 
And we can all just walk from 

661
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,920
the gym to the hotel. 
There's an after bar or after 

662
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,800
party at some bar restaurant. 
The very next day, anybody who 

663
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,640
wants to is going to go tubing 
down a river. 

664
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,880
And these two people, these 
promoters are two of the most 

665
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:30,200
fun people ever. 
And it was always a blast 

666
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,920
helping them with their show. 
And I always thought if I'm ever

667
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:39,120
in a prep, if I'm ever in decent
condition to be able to come to 

668
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,480
your show and be in your show 
instead of volunteering, I'm 

669
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,880
going to just make it a point to
do that. 

670
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,840
So that's this year. 
So my primary show obviously is 

671
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:53,200
your show here in September, but
this one is to 2 1/2 months 

672
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:58,040
previous in middle of July. 
And that's kind of how this one 

673
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,840
came to be in my calendar of 
events is we're just like, let's

674
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,040
screw it. 
Let's just let's just try it. 

675
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,560
So that's where that protocol is
going to come into play is 

676
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,960
because This is why I have such 
an elongated prep. 

677
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,360
Otherwise I wouldn't have 
started prep in January. 

678
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,400
It would have been probably 
March, April and started prep 

679
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,800
for September. 
But now that's so elongated that

680
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,160
you got to try to bridge that 
gap a little bit. 

681
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,240
Yeah, but I think, I mean, 
you're not going to be peaked 

682
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,400
for this show, but you're still 
going to look pretty good, man. 

683
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,760
We've been working on posing 
every single week and like, 

684
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,520
you're starting to see all the 
serratus veins and you're 

685
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,960
getting veins. 
I got once you start to see 

686
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,080
vascularity or veins crossing 
your abs, you know, you're 

687
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,840
getting pretty dialed in 
everywhere else because that's 

688
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,600
kind of the last place you'll 
start to see those and 

689
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
everything will just tighten up,
tighten up, tighten up even more

690
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,360
for September. 
So I'm, I'm not, I'm going into 

691
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,280
the show to have fun, look good,
get some cool footage, get some 

692
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,840
cool photos taken, hang out with
some awesome people. 

693
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480
One of my best buddies from back
in Minnesota is going to cruise 

694
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,320
over. 
He's going to stay in my room 

695
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,600
with me and we're going to, you 
know, go out after and all that 

696
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,440
kind of stuff. 
So it's going to be just kind of

697
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,639
a nice little bodybuilding. 
It was true. 

698
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,719
It'll kind of like settle on 
your nerves for the shows you 

699
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,239
have later in the year, like 
getting on stage because you 

700
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,080
hadn't competed against. 
Since I haven't been on the 

701
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,239
stage since 20, is it 23? 
I did. 

702
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,120
It's 23, prepping 21 and a 
prepping 23 and then this is 25.

703
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,840
You and I both competed in 23. 
Are you sure it wasn't 22? 

704
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,080
I don't think they were 
back-to-back. 

705
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:35,480
The first prep that you helped 
me with was into some 20/21 

706
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,280
shows. 
That's right because there's a 

707
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:42,960
picture of us at Keto Con or 
Hecker Health and I was 4 weeks 

708
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,159
into Prep and you were four 
weeks out of. 

709
00:34:45,159 --> 00:34:48,120
Prep and I was like super dialed
and you were starting to get 

710
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,880
dialed. 
Yeah, yeah, yes, that makes 

711
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:50,400
sense. 
Yep, Yep. 

712
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Cool. 
So. 

713
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,159
We kind of over, like we barely 
missed each other. 

714
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,000
But in 2027 we were just talking
about this. 

715
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,360
Today, 2027, we might hit the 
same stages. 

716
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,600
Oh, for sure. 
We are like, it's, it's going to

717
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,160
be good because like you and I 
are going to do like a 

718
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:09,360
legitimate bona fide build in 
2026 and like I'm going to 

719
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,760
actually give the build all the 
detention it deserves. 

720
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,600
We should track data. 
We should do Dexes prior to. 

721
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,000
We should do all that. 
I'm going to be as rigid in my 

722
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,880
build as I am in a prep. 
And just like have all of that 

723
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,600
data. 
I mean, in a prep or in a build,

724
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,760
I've always just, you know, 
eaten at a surplus, gotten 

725
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920
enough protein, lifted hard and 
heavy, like all the all the 

726
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,320
things you're supposed to do. 
But I want to like take more of 

727
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,920
an analytical approach to it 
this time. 

728
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,040
Fine tune it. 
Yeah, really fine tune it. 

729
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,040
And then just like incorporate 
that into the course more as 

730
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,040
well, like having more of a 
building focus in there as well.

731
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,840
So we'll do that in 26 and 
totally capitalize on that year 

732
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,160
to build. 
And then you and I will start 

733
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,240
prep. 
I don't know when we'll start 

734
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:56,200
prep, but it'll be in early 2027
for 2027's competitive season. 

735
00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,720
And then you and I will compete 
against one another and see who 

736
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,880
reigns king. 
It'll be good. 

737
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,320
That would be fun. 
You're gonna have me beat on 

738
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,040
size. 
I definitely need at least a 

739
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,280
couple weeks or months of just 
flexibility, freedom, 

740
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,600
nutritional, just eating to 
intuition, enjoying the foods 

741
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,360
that I kind of take out during, 
you know, just a little break. 

742
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,960
Yeah, obviously still keto, but 
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

743
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:26,440
But like eating intuitively ad 
Lib, I mean after you're 

744
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,760
depending on if you do your 
November show or not, but pretty

745
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:34,000
much from there until whenever 
you want to start in 2026 would 

746
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,080
be that for you. 
Well. 

747
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,480
I want to reverse safely out of 
it too though. 

748
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,120
Yeah. 
So it really just depends on 

749
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,720
November like if you want to do.
'Cause that's where that's in 

750
00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:47,200
2023 back before I was keto. 
That's what's tailspun me into. 

751
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Keto is a shitty non existent 
reverse diet out of a bro diet 

752
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:55,600
competition and I just gained a 
ton of ANYWAYS. 

753
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,920
That's a different story. 
Yeah, yeah, the reverse diet 

754
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,960
portion is huge, and that'll 
start and end depending on when 

755
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,480
your last show was. 
So yeah, we'll get all that 

756
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:04,800
figured out. 
But I am excited to compete 

757
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,720
against you 'cause like, we got 
all this content in the course 

758
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:08,760
and I was watching a bunch of 
it. 

759
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,320
Like there's so much footage of 
either you and Prep and me and 

760
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Build coaching and looking at 
things and getting content of 

761
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:22,160
you or you in a build and me in 
a prep, like meeting up for a 

762
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,000
competition and doing posing and
stuff. 

763
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,720
But there's not any of us dialed
at the same time. 

764
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,520
So it'll be cool to do a full 
blown prep with documented, you 

765
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,280
know, us on In Sync basically. 
We could do like combined 

766
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,480
content, what your macros are 
at, what my macros are AT, and 

767
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,800
stats, all that good stuff. 
Sweet that. 

768
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,840
Would be awesome. 
I'm excited, but you get some 

769
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:44,560
time. 
Until then, we get some time. 

770
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,120
They got some time, yeah, that's
on the that's in the two year, 

771
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,120
that's the two year goal. 
Two year horizon? 

772
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,320
How about it on time? 
She probably won't been rocking 

773
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,400
30. 8 minutes exactly. 
That's ball. 

774
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,160
Perfect mount, perfect. 
Well, let's call it a wrap on 

775
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,160
this one and we'll we got a 
bunch of stuff to do today, a 

776
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,800
lot of a lot of good stuff to do
today. 

777
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,960
So let's just rock on that 
rock'n'roll. 

778
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,160
We'll see all y'all next time. 
Drop us your questions. 

779
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:09,520
Drop us your questions.
