1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,300 Hello, ladies and gents Roberts. Thanks kiddo, Savage that 2 00:00:02,300 --> 00:00:04,800 comment today I've got special guest at Melanie Thomas on the 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,700 line. I met her at the keto palooza 4 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:10,100 conference this past year, and I just kind of wanted a little bit 5 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:13,000 deeper into what she's been able to accomplish with the carnivore 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,500 diet. Turn her whole family are doing 7 00:00:14,500 --> 00:00:17,500 Quito and carnivore. She's got two daughters or 8 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:20,100 husbands doing Quito. She's doing a more strict 9 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:22,700 version of carnivore. She's been able to reverse a ton 10 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:24,500 of health issues. She's totally turned her life 11 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:28,100 around, lost a ton of weight gotten healthier, just 12 00:00:28,100 --> 00:00:29,500 everything's much better for her. 13 00:00:29,500 --> 00:00:32,600 And I just Want to get a little more back story as to how she 14 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,300 accomplished that and what her motivations have been to start, 15 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:39,700 putting her journey out on YouTube and just be out there to 16 00:00:39,700 --> 00:00:41,300 help people along with their Journey. 17 00:00:41,300 --> 00:00:43,000 So thoroughly enjoyed the conversation. 18 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:45,000 I've got no doubt that you will take something from it. 19 00:00:45,300 --> 00:00:48,800 She is definitely in the space producing content and trying to 20 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,200 help people for all the right reasons, which is why I really 21 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,800 wanted to just get on the podcast. 22 00:00:52,900 --> 00:00:55,200 So without further Ado, sit back relax. 23 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,600 Enjoy the conversation with Melanie Thomas. 24 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:09,400 And we are live Melanie. How are you? 25 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,900 I'm great. How are you doing? 26 00:01:11,900 --> 00:01:14,200 I'm doing a wonderfully, well, as well. 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:17,600 We met for the first time at sceeto palooza, right? 28 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,400 That's that's right. We met last summer at the keto, 29 00:01:21,400 --> 00:01:23,600 palooza in Louisville, where I'm from. 30 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:28,800 And I had the privilege of getting to hear you speak, and I 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:31,200 got to meet you and your beautiful. 32 00:01:31,300 --> 00:01:34,700 Cool. Wife and amazing little boy. 33 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:41,100 And yeah, it was a great 10-minute conversation that we 34 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:43,500 had. So I wanted to yeah, reach out 35 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:45,500 and talk some more. Yeah. 36 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:47,100 No, it was great. I mean that, we like you said, 37 00:01:47,100 --> 00:01:49,600 we spoke for a brief moment after the conference was 38 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,000 actually over. You had some kiddos as well, 39 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 your husband was there and we were talking and yeah, we 40 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 started diving into your Mac store a little bit with 41 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,500 nutrition doing like carnivore and whatnot. 42 00:02:00,500 --> 00:02:03,200 So I kind of want to just Dive into that for the listeners. 43 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,300 Can you can you give me some back story as to what got you 44 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:07,700 into the keto carnivore space to begin with? 45 00:02:08,500 --> 00:02:13,400 Sure absolutely. So I grew up very you know 46 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:20,200 standard American diet. I had a lot of health issues 47 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:24,800 that really started surfacing in my 20s. 48 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:30,100 I started to gain weight. I had always struggled with 49 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:36,800 mental health issues, Issues. Since I was a child and I just 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,100 now, I'm 38 years old. Let me back up a little bit. 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:46,700 I had never heard of carnivore. I had never heard of the lion 52 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:52,900 diet, anything like that. Until I saw a, I guess was a 53 00:02:52,900 --> 00:02:58,100 podcast of Joe Rogan and Michaela Peterson and my husband 54 00:02:58,100 --> 00:03:03,300 and I were at home, we were watching this show And something 55 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:09,500 just clicked and was like I feel like I need to do this and I had 56 00:03:09,500 --> 00:03:16,400 struggled for years with multiple chronic conditions and 57 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:23,600 weight gain my worst condition I would say was I had Interstitial 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,600 cystitis and it is completely cured. 59 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:30,200 It is gone since I went carnivore. 60 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,000 And can you tell The listeners. What? 61 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,400 That is exactly sure, sure. So Interstitial cystitis is also 62 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:42,100 known as painful bladder syndrome and it kind of gets I 63 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:45,600 would want to say under-diagnosed or misdiagnosed 64 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:51,100 because it looks just like a UTI as far as the symptoms, but you 65 00:03:51,100 --> 00:03:54,200 do not test positive for having bacteria. 66 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,400 So what happened was I would show signs of a UTI as a child 67 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:04,200 and be put on an antibiotic. Without ever checking that I 68 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:09,400 had, you know, bacteria or not. So I have been on more 69 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,900 antibiotics than I can. Even like I don't even want to 70 00:04:12,908 --> 00:04:14,500 admit, how many I've probably been on. 71 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:20,399 And, you know, as a result of that, I had terrible gut issues. 72 00:04:20,500 --> 00:04:26,500 I had terrible mental health issues, I had, you know, weight 73 00:04:26,500 --> 00:04:32,800 gain acne, I had a form of lupus, That affects the skin. 74 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:40,600 I had chronic fatigue. I had chronic migraines and all 75 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,900 of this just literally disappeared. 76 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:50,000 When I went carnivore. The thing that actually that 77 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:54,700 made me say okay I have to tell the world is is when I got to 78 00:04:54,700 --> 00:05:00,300 cancel my appointment to. So I was going to see a her I 79 00:05:00,308 --> 00:05:04,800 was going to have Hand surgery, I had carpal tunnel syndrome so 80 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,800 bad, I couldn't even write. I couldn't even hold my baby and 81 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:12,800 they kept telling me. Well, this will go away after 82 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,300 you give birth. And it never did. 83 00:05:16,300 --> 00:05:21,400 And long story short, I went carnivore, somehow. 84 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:27,900 This carpal tunnel was just completely just wiped away. and 85 00:05:27,900 --> 00:05:30,800 when it all the helmet start, like, when was the Inception of 86 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:35,600 all the health concerns, Oh gosh, you know, I feel like a 87 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,700 lot of its are like, been there the whole time. 88 00:05:38,900 --> 00:05:42,800 I just never associated with food with what I was eating and 89 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,100 nobody ever said anything. When I would go to the doctor 90 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:49,000 about well what are you eating? No one ever said that because I 91 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:54,200 was always a very thin person until my 20s. 92 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:59,400 That's when I started to gain weight, I would say you know 93 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:04,900 five to ten pounds a year. So I at my heaviest This was 220 94 00:06:04,900 --> 00:06:09,100 pounds and for people that they're going to look like yeah. 95 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:12,300 But never look like you were ever to have £20 crazy. 96 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:17,700 Yeah, I know, I know it's crazy. And yeah, I, you know, I don't 97 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:22,300 have a lot of before and after pictures because I hated the way 98 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:26,200 I looked for so many years that I don't even have any pictures, 99 00:06:26,900 --> 00:06:31,600 but I do have a few and I have a little bit of it on my YouTube 100 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,900 channel, but yeah. I've lost 70 pounds and that 101 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:38,900 just seems like how is that possible? 102 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:44,100 But I think I had a lot of inflammation sitting and just 103 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:48,200 festering on my body. A lot of fluid and obviously 104 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:56,800 fat, but you know, I was eating just straight trash, if I can be 105 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:58,900 blunt. I mean stuff that isn't even 106 00:06:58,900 --> 00:07:01,900 food is what I lived on for the first. 107 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,500 Thirtysomething years of my life. 108 00:07:04,500 --> 00:07:09,600 So it's it's crazy that I'm able to talk to you about this and 109 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:13,000 see it in hindsight. But yeah. 110 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,700 Nobody. Nobody ever caught on to oh you 111 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:23,500 know she's got a UTI every month since she was 23 years old or, 112 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,400 you know, I mean, I had yeast infections when I was only 34 113 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:32,000 years old and that's honestly that's brought on by the 114 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,600 Antibiotic. Use to what was your night? 115 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:39,100 Pretty pretty poor from the very beginning like where you just as 116 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:43,000 a child eating pretty, pretty poor nutrition, very poor 117 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:49,900 nutrition, very poor. I was pretty much raised on 118 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:54,700 whatever was really fast and what was really easy and cheap. 119 00:07:55,300 --> 00:07:57,800 And I don't want to like lay my parents or anything but they 120 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,000 both worked full-time. I was what I consider a latchkey 121 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,600 kid. So it was just my sister and I 122 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:09,500 kind of you know, there'd be days where all I ate that day 123 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:13,900 was a bag of Lay's potato chips and Sprite and that was what I 124 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:17,600 ate. And I remember eating Frosted 125 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Flakes every morning, And you know, peanut butter and jelly. 126 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,900 It's cool. And I never had, you know, I was 127 00:08:25,900 --> 00:08:28,900 always very thin. So, no one ever thought twice 128 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:34,600 that I wasn't You know, I think it might have been different if 129 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:39,400 I was a heavy as a kid but nobody cared, they really didn't 130 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,799 care and we grew up on fast food as well. 131 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:47,900 So I mean, dinner was whatever you could get it Wendy's or 132 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:52,500 McDonald's and pizza. So that's how I grew up. 133 00:08:53,100 --> 00:08:56,100 And of course, fat phobic like super fat phobic. 134 00:08:56,100 --> 00:09:00,800 If we if my parents did cook they would drain the meat or you 135 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:06,400 know, do Don't eat butter or I don't know, just skim milk. 136 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,800 Everything was skim milk and don't eat eggs. 137 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,700 So it's pretty much the exact opposite of what I eat now. 138 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,500 Yeah, are your siblings? You said, yes, the an older 139 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:18,000 sister to hear that, right? I do. 140 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 Yes. My sister Carla. 141 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,000 She is 5 years older than me. Yep. 142 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:26,700 Does she eats similar to you now to sheet similar to what she'd 143 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:32,900 always been eating. So, she actually went low carb, 144 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,600 a few years ago, and was in the best shape of her life. 145 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,700 And then she kind of like, a lot of people kind of like fell off 146 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,600 the wagon and now she just eats whatever she wants. 147 00:09:46,700 --> 00:09:50,000 And And I'll say, you know, do you ever think about maybe 148 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,200 getting back, you know, getting back the way you were, you know, 149 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,800 because you were feeling so good and she's like, no, I think I'm 150 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:01,100 too old now. And I was just like, well, I'm 151 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,700 not that much younger than you. And I had, I mean, I've had two 152 00:10:04,700 --> 00:10:08,900 kids even so if you know it, I was just trying to basically say 153 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:14,100 like you can do this, if I could do it, but they kind of look at 154 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:16,200 me. Like, I'm crazy like her and her 155 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,200 husband. We went Traveled together a few 156 00:10:19,500 --> 00:10:22,900 months ago and of course you know, I pack all my little 157 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,100 special Foods, my meats and eggs and butter. 158 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:30,900 And they just look at me, like, good grief, whatever and they 159 00:10:30,900 --> 00:10:32,300 don't, they're not mean about it. 160 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:38,700 But I do have people that are like, overly offended and say 161 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:41,900 things to me about it, and that's a tough one. 162 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:46,400 Yeah, family friends like people take offense, they take offense 163 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:47,600 to the strangest. Things. 164 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,400 Like if what you were doing nutritionally speaking is 165 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,200 working well for you then more power to you. 166 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,200 People should only be supportive of that. 167 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,000 But the problem is, I think people just don't get how 168 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,400 impactful their food decisions really are. 169 00:11:00,700 --> 00:11:04,800 So they just assume that there's no no no harm, no foul that 170 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,500 comes with eating, whatever they give you, where it's just not 171 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:11,400 the case, right? And I try to explain to people, 172 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:15,000 you know, since I've started eating this way, it's just 173 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 really changed my life for the better. 174 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:20,000 And And I feel so good and positive and like, I can do 175 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,900 anything. I told my best friend, even, you 176 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:27,300 know, I said, I, I sleep like a baby. 177 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:29,400 And when I wake up, I'm ready to roll. 178 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:35,200 Like, I jump out of bed and she just thought, what like, what do 179 00:11:35,208 --> 00:11:37,600 you mean? And I'm like, like I feel better 180 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,900 than I've ever felt and she just thought that was just. 181 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,000 Wow. You know, but she just had a 182 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,300 baby and she said well, Well, maybe I'll do what you do after 183 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:53,300 I have the baby. And I said, okay, well, I'm game 184 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:55,800 whenever you're ready. I would love to help you. 185 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,000 So that's kind of how I've been approaching it is. 186 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:03,100 If someone comes to me and asks, what can I do then? 187 00:12:03,100 --> 00:12:08,100 I just say, okay, I'll help you. Yeah, I kind of had to learn the 188 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:11,700 hard way, like people don't want your help unless they ask. 189 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:14,200 Yeah. It's very true or not. 190 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,600 True. And it's unfortunate, but like 191 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,100 you drive a wedge. Against people between people 192 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,600 and make them even more. Even less likely to ask for 193 00:12:22,608 --> 00:12:25,200 help. If you try to help it strange 194 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,700 thing, you just have to let them come to you, totally completely. 195 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,100 Absolutely. And that's a really tough thing 196 00:12:31,100 --> 00:12:35,600 to swallow because I am surrounded and I don't know if 197 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:40,500 you and your wife have this issue to, but it's almost like 198 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:45,700 an alienation of you know it's like we don't go out and drink. 199 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:53,400 We don't go out to eat anymore and when we go to parties, we 200 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,300 don't like to be out super late, you know? 201 00:12:56,300 --> 00:13:00,300 And because we value our sleep and so that I guess it's a 202 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:05,500 really weird thing to people. And yeah, we should we should be 203 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:09,400 friends for sure because we are the exact same like Crystal and 204 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,200 we'll go to like an event that people would invite us to the 205 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,200 party in the party starts at 8:00. 206 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,600 And I'm like that's literally my bedtime like I don't even want 207 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,900 to go. Oh my gosh, I kid you not 208 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:21,700 Robert. We got invited to a party this 209 00:13:21,700 --> 00:13:25,500 Friday, the 13th. It starts at 8:00 and it's to 210 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:29,700 watch Friday the 13th movies. And I literally was like girl 211 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:33,900 like I go to bed at like 9:00 so I don't think we're going to be 212 00:13:34,100 --> 00:13:38,800 like yeah yeah they probably would have talking about my kids 213 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:42,900 I'd like know myself. Like I have to get good sleep to 214 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:47,700 be a very productive person. It's funny because like I 215 00:13:47,708 --> 00:13:51,900 remember not sleeping I'm not going to bed until very very 216 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:55,700 late like all through college. And I felt at least I think I 217 00:13:55,700 --> 00:13:58,800 felt like I was totally productive the following day. 218 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:02,500 Whereas now if I was to do that I would just be like I would not 219 00:14:02,500 --> 00:14:04,800 be productive at all. Like I would I would you know 220 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,700 grip my way through the day but I would not be productive. 221 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:11,400 So I'm halfway wondering have I lost some of that resilience and 222 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:14,300 just flexibility or if I just become so much more in tune with 223 00:14:14,300 --> 00:14:17,000 what feels good and what feels bad I'm leaning Towards the 224 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,500 ladder. At least that makes me feel 225 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:21,900 better. I do think we. 226 00:14:22,100 --> 00:14:24,800 We are more in tune with our bodies when we get rid of the 227 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,400 junk and we're more in tune with. 228 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,900 Whoa, that makes me feel like crap or that. 229 00:14:29,900 --> 00:14:34,800 Makes me feel really good. I'm pretty much able to pinpoint 230 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,400 and figure out. Now, what is causing any sort of 231 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,900 issue because I have tightened up I diet so well. 232 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:50,200 And I've also prioritize Aged, you know, my sleep and I never 233 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,600 realized how important it was to get a good night sleep. 234 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,400 And you know how hard it is when you have a baby? 235 00:14:56,600 --> 00:15:01,300 Oh my gosh, you know, for the first I feel like But the first 236 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:04,600 year of my first daughter's life, I don't think I slept more 237 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,800 than a couple hours, a night. She was a really difficult baby. 238 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,500 So I feel like maybe I'm making up for that lost. 239 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:15,800 Maybe maybe, yeah, because that's a lot. 240 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,400 But yeah. So my two kids are full of 241 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:26,400 energy, like kids should be. And you know, I basically have 242 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,900 to be straight with people do. Like I got to go to bed because 243 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:31,700 I got to wake up. At the butt crack of dawn, with 244 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:35,000 these kids because that's they're going to get up at 6:00. 245 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,300 No matter what. Yeah, well I gotta be ready to 246 00:15:37,300 --> 00:15:39,800 go. What kind of diet are they 247 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:41,600 following? They have anything specific 248 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:46,600 protocol there. So we do keto for the kids and I 249 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,800 do allow like, if they go to some my, my seven-year-old, we 250 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,100 just went to a birthday party. I did allow her to have like 251 00:15:55,100 --> 00:15:57,400 their party food like the cupcake, whatever. 252 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:04,500 I do allow treats for special events, but once we get home, 253 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:08,700 it's back into, you know, eggs for breakfast. 254 00:16:08,700 --> 00:16:16,100 And we do that cloud bread instead of regular bread and 255 00:16:16,100 --> 00:16:21,000 then we'll do like chicken, they love rotisserie chicken so I'll 256 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,300 try and give them that. What else? 257 00:16:24,300 --> 00:16:29,200 And I know my kids eat fruit. And my husband, you know, he's 258 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,700 he do so I mean he's eating asparagus and different salads 259 00:16:33,700 --> 00:16:38,300 and vegetables and things like that with his needs and the kids 260 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:40,900 feel poorly after they have the party foods. 261 00:16:40,900 --> 00:16:43,000 Like if they eat a bunch of cupcakes or something that they 262 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,700 feel poorly afterwards. Absolutely, absolutely. 263 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:51,700 And we talked about it I'll tell my daughter Kate I say you know 264 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:55,400 yes you can have a cupcake but I want you to know. 265 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:59,500 II, you know, basically, like I don't want you complaining 266 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:03,600 tonight about how bad your stomach because I've told you 267 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,400 and you know how that makes your belly feel? 268 00:17:06,500 --> 00:17:10,400 She's like, I know I know when I'm like, all right. 269 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:15,500 And that it was like Halloween, for instance, you know, she got 270 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:18,099 the JJ, of course, giant bag of candy. 271 00:17:18,700 --> 00:17:21,700 And I said, all right, you can pick out a couple of things and 272 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:25,500 then everything else has to go, you know, it's Leo mom, you know 273 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,300 and I'm like It's okay and then she gets over it you know you 274 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:33,700 think your first I used to think I'm being a mean mom I'm not 275 00:17:33,700 --> 00:17:36,700 letting her have all this stuff and like know I'm being a really 276 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:43,600 good mom so I need to just realize like I you know I care 277 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,100 about my child. My children's health so much 278 00:17:46,100 --> 00:17:50,300 that. Yeah I just I'm gonna do what I 279 00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:52,800 have to do. Ya feel like I'm and I'm very 280 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,100 new at this whole parenting thing so I may be totally 281 00:17:56,300 --> 00:17:59,100 Speaking out of turn here, but I feel like a lot of the things 282 00:17:59,100 --> 00:18:02,900 that parents do for their kids when it comes to like Halloween, 283 00:18:02,900 --> 00:18:05,300 like all these Traditions that are centered around food and 284 00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:09,500 candies and sugars. Like it's honestly just like 285 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,200 they'll say that they're trying to let them live a little bit, 286 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,300 but it's just laziness in my opinion on the parents part 287 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:18,100 because they don't want to have to fight that fight and maybe I 288 00:18:18,108 --> 00:18:19,100 get, I'm totally speak out of turn. 289 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:22,100 I'm not be getting some people right now, but I think that's 290 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:27,100 the case because it takes a lot more effort to To have the 291 00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:30,000 conversation around, why we don't do that, why? 292 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,000 It's not wise to do that or just have like a better approach to 293 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,100 that in and of itself, but it's much easier just so yeah. 294 00:18:36,100 --> 00:18:39,600 It's you know, Halloween go get your bag full of candy, you 295 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:43,400 know, knock yourself out indulge and I don't know, I think the 296 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,600 whole moniker of you know do this. 297 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,800 It's only once a year. That's just a cop-out in my 298 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:50,800 opinion. Yeah. 299 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:55,100 Yeah, it is. And it's also yeah, you're 300 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:58,900 right. If I choose to give my kids 301 00:18:58,900 --> 00:19:03,100 processed food, it's honestly me being lazy because I don't have 302 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:06,900 time to either go and get the food and cook it. 303 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:11,300 Or I don't feel like like you said, fight them because it is a 304 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:17,300 fight to have your child go to school and they're serving, you 305 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:21,200 know, gummy fruit gummy snacks. And Otto's and all this and I'm 306 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,200 like you're not getting any of that and that I think that can 307 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,600 feel kind of funny for a kid to be like I'm the only one that's 308 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,300 not eating this. Yeah but at the same time I'll 309 00:19:32,300 --> 00:19:35,900 talk to my daughter as if she's an adult sometimes and be like 310 00:19:35,900 --> 00:19:41,300 look You know, like right now I have an aunt and an uncle both 311 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:46,700 dying in a nursing home. Both from Alzheimer's, my 312 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:51,500 uncle's dying from early onset Alzheimers and my aunt is dying 313 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:54,500 from regular Alzheimer's, whatever. 314 00:19:56,000 --> 00:20:01,900 Both of them. Are my a, what do I want to call 315 00:20:01,900 --> 00:20:04,900 this? They're just like, they're 316 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:07,900 always in my head. I'm always thinking about them 317 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:14,100 when I'm eating or when I'm giving my kids food because I'm 318 00:20:14,100 --> 00:20:21,900 so scared of what could happen. If I give my kids sugar, I know 319 00:20:21,900 --> 00:20:28,000 that sounds weird but they definitely motivate me to clean 320 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,800 up. My ACT clean up my act, as a mom 321 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:34,000 with what? I'm serving my kids, and it's 322 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:38,700 hard for me to see like nieces and nephews being given, you 323 00:20:38,700 --> 00:20:42,100 know, really bad stuff. And it's hard to bite your 324 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:46,900 tongue. But yeah, that's I just know. 325 00:20:47,100 --> 00:20:51,700 Yeah, it's hard. It's really hard to see it and I 326 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,600 feel like especially when it comes to other members of the 327 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,700 family, like, I don't know. Like I've got family members as 328 00:20:57,700 --> 00:20:59,700 well that have struggled with Alzheimer's dementia. 329 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:06,400 You know, heart disease like the whole, you know, shebang and not 330 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,700 to say that. If they had changed your diet, 331 00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:12,200 it would have 100% absolve them of those issues. 332 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,500 But it would certainly have Tim in the better, trajectory to 333 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,500 minimize those adverse effects and I feel like, you know, 334 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:21,700 anything that you can do for your own life and the things 335 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:24,000 that you have control over, IE your kids nutrition least in 336 00:21:24,008 --> 00:21:27,300 their early years, like you owe it to them, you owe it to you, 337 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:31,500 you owe it to the family to do so and it's hard. 338 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:34,100 Like, I don't know, like I'm not totally understand, you're 339 00:21:34,100 --> 00:21:37,100 coming from because I got family members, whom I love deeply and 340 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:40,500 they scoff at what I do with regards to nutrition, yet, I'm 341 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:43,200 healthier than all of them and that's frustrating because it's 342 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,000 like Like you know I want the same for y'all. 343 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,600 Like I don't want to be out living my family. 344 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,900 I want us to all be healthy together. 345 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,600 Yes. And I talked, I told my mom all 346 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,100 the time, I don't want to be like, my Aunt Mary and visiting 347 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:04,000 you in the the nursing home. And I don't want to end up, you 348 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,300 know, just being faced with some of these difficult things that 349 00:22:08,300 --> 00:22:11,700 I've seen my family members go through while caring for someone 350 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:16,900 with Alzheimer's. And it's definitely on my mind 351 00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:20,400 of something that I mean that's probably the scariest thing to 352 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:24,600 think that I could get and my grandmother died with it as 353 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,500 well. So, I mean, it's in the family 354 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:34,500 and but it's also Like I think that it's genetic and diet and 355 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:38,600 I'm leaning more towards. I think it's mostly diet That's 356 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,900 just from what I've observed in my own little family. 357 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:48,100 I think that's kind of like genetic predispositions and then 358 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,600 diet and lifestyle kind of, you know, unlock the genetic code. 359 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,900 So, to speak to make those Snips fire or not. 360 00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:56,000 Fire. Exactly. 361 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,700 Yeah. When it comes to having, like a 362 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:01,900 grandmother and now, aunt and uncle that have, you know, 363 00:23:01,900 --> 00:23:04,000 Alzheimer's is there like a specific? 364 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:10,100 Memory that burns deep in your mind with like an interaction 365 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,900 with them that you just think of instantaneously when you think 366 00:23:13,900 --> 00:23:18,700 of that situation. Like of the Alzheimer's stuff. 367 00:23:18,700 --> 00:23:20,100 Yeah. Because like a lot of people 368 00:23:20,100 --> 00:23:23,900 listening they don't they may not have families within so they 369 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:27,200 like this is a lot of people know somebody that has struggled 370 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,800 with it but some people don't. So like I don't feel like a lot 371 00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:37,100 of people realize how much sad so it is so painful for someone 372 00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:42,400 to not know who you are and then like my my Aunt, Carol, for 373 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,400 instance, used to be the head honcho of my Emily. 374 00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,900 Like, if there was a big decision that need to be made, 375 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:54,200 she made it, I mean, she was like the strongest woman I knew, 376 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,800 and she used to Take Me Out and because I would cut school and 377 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,800 she would take me out shopping and her convertible and just 378 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,400 like, just crazy to think that she's this. 379 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:11,100 She's this little like body laying in a bed. 380 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:15,800 That's just waiting to die. And it's like how is that my 381 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:23,200 Aunt Carol, how did that happen? And I think of my my uncle John 382 00:24:23,300 --> 00:24:29,500 and He was a brilliant guy and he had a family business and he 383 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:36,900 was successful guy and he was religious and he declined so 384 00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:40,300 quickly. Oh gosh, it was just like, how 385 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:45,800 is this happening to someone who, you know, who lived this 386 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,200 life and was productive and a good person? 387 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:56,800 And it's like, it happens. It can happen to anybody and my 388 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,400 grandma, she started doing some really crazy things. 389 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,300 I remember, you know, and it finally got to the point where 390 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:08,100 it was dangerous. And so, you know, a lot of 391 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:12,600 people that have dementia will start kind of showing these odd 392 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,400 think, like, God signs of cognitive decline, so they'll 393 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,600 forget where things are, and then it's like, they forget 394 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,300 where they are. And then they forget how How to 395 00:25:21,300 --> 00:25:23,700 get back home, or things like that. 396 00:25:24,100 --> 00:25:26,100 Yeah. You know, with my grandma. 397 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:32,600 I mean, we noticed she come home and the car would have dents on 398 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,600 it and we'd say, were you in a car accident? 399 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,000 She'd say what, what do you mean? 400 00:25:37,500 --> 00:25:42,400 Yeah, but things like that, which I know it's not funny but, 401 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:49,400 you know, just Yeah, I hate dementia like I hate it with a 402 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:58,600 passion so there's a big part of my, you know my why is I almost 403 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,700 want to like avenge their their deaths? 404 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,700 Does that make any sense? Like, yeah, for sure. 405 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,100 I was listening to a podcast the other day and I forget who it 406 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:13,500 was with. But it was somebody was creating 407 00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:16,600 a documentary. You all around Alzheimer's and 408 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:21,800 Dementia and how nutrition like I think his mother had it really 409 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,500 bad. Yeah. 410 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,800 Oh gosh. What is his name is? 411 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,200 It wasn't Max live here. Was that him Max? 412 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:34,300 Yes, Max and, you know, his last name I guess we're I think it's 413 00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,300 like white boxes or little don't forget the title of it, but 414 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,500 solving, these little boxes, empty Little Boxes. 415 00:26:39,500 --> 00:26:42,000 Yeah. And see little boxes and I watch 416 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,100 that trailer and I listen to that. 417 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:45,000 Pain? Because I don't know if it was 418 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,300 on Rogan or if he was on a tee. I'm not sure who's listening, 419 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,700 who he was with, but I was listening to that and I watch 420 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:51,200 the trailer for that documentary. 421 00:26:51,700 --> 00:26:55,300 And like, if there's anything that anybody can do anything, 422 00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:59,600 that we can learn as a society to, you know, hedge their bets, 423 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,200 in our favor, to minimize those adverse effects, for people 424 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,000 loved ones. Like, I'm all, I'm all in on 425 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,300 that because that is, that is no way to go. 426 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,300 No, it's not and You know, I like I said my daughter. 427 00:27:13,300 --> 00:27:16,900 So she's in the first grade and I'm the room mom. 428 00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:21,400 And so I'll go in and help out with things every now and then 429 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,000 I'll just see all these little kids. 430 00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:29,700 And I mean, they just they're running around like little bit, 431 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:32,500 just crazy. And I'm thinking good grief, 432 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:37,500 these kids are like Jack on something and you know, they'll 433 00:27:37,500 --> 00:27:40,600 be sitting there eating their Cheetos and their juice boxes. 434 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,900 All this stuff. And I'm thinking, whoa, what's 435 00:27:44,900 --> 00:27:46,700 going on? You know what? 436 00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:50,300 And so, I'm so scared of like, what's going to happen to these 437 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:55,800 little kids when they turn into adults and have all these health 438 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,200 issues? And, you know, they have health 439 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:02,800 issues now earlier in earlier, this is starting, and I know 440 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,500 that when they eat that way, there's no way that they can 441 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:11,500 give their full attention at school and, and now, Actually 442 00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:17,700 processed all this information and so I mean I think it affects 443 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:21,900 learning at the basic level. I really do. 444 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,100 Yeah I would not be surprised about that. 445 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,400 Until I mean just simply looking at what school lunches 446 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,600 oftentimes serve I mean I remember when I was in the I 447 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,800 don't think they've changed my tune. 448 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,800 I was a student in, like middle school and high school and it 449 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,500 what he's available then was just, it's nothing to write home 450 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,700 about and I don't think it's really changed much. 451 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:44,600 Since then now, it hasn't yeah. So like what I mean, what 452 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,700 they're consuming there and then like they just go to the next 453 00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:50,300 class after lunch there passed out because they have a massive 454 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:52,300 blood sugar Spike and then it drops. 455 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:56,400 And then they have no bandwidth for, you know anything. 456 00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,900 I think I was in Spanish class after lunch. 457 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,000 And yeah, I don't recall, I don't know any Spanish if that 458 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,000 does anything. Oh my gosh. 459 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,800 I love it that. Yeah it makes total sense. 460 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:13,000 Yeah, definitely and I grew up Repeating school lunch and I 461 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,600 actually ate School breakfast too because my parents worked 462 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,000 really early and so I would 6:30 a.m. 463 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800 I was at school already for there before school care. 464 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,400 And and then we had after school care and like I said, you come 465 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,500 home and it's late. You just go get fast food 466 00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:34,700 because it's easy and we're all tired. 467 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,900 So yeah. It's a cumulation of a lot of 468 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,400 crap. Definitely for me. 469 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,900 So you and your husband have been doing this diet since you 470 00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:48,700 heard that podcast with Rogan and McKenna Peterson and that 471 00:29:48,700 --> 00:29:53,000 was that was published what 2019 that, right? 472 00:29:53,800 --> 00:30:00,900 So, it was, but we did not start doing this until February, 20 473 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:06,300 21, gotcha 21. Yeah, yeah, and before that I 474 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:12,200 had been what I would call Tito ish, which is He do most days 475 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,300 and then whatever the hell else, I want to do on the weekend type 476 00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:21,200 of thing like binge on whatever pizza and ice cream, things like 477 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,600 that. So I never really had, you know, 478 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,300 great results. And yeah I did lose a little bit 479 00:30:30,300 --> 00:30:37,200 of weight and but it was never, you know, my dream, my dream 480 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,700 goal in my head of having you know, being high Skinny again, 481 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,800 that was that was always isn't in the back of my head and I 482 00:30:44,808 --> 00:30:47,800 just thought to myself, I'm just stuck at this weight, you know, 483 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:51,400 this is all, this is how I'm always gonna be and after 484 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:55,100 listening to that podcast, with with Michaela Peterson and her 485 00:30:55,100 --> 00:30:58,300 talking about fixing her autoimmune issues. 486 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:02,400 And I know she had terrible arthritis. 487 00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:05,800 I thought, well, I could probably do this and maybe it 488 00:31:05,808 --> 00:31:09,400 would fix my carpal tunnel syndrome and ever thought it 489 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:10,600 would do everything else, you know. 490 00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:12,500 No it fix all these other problems. 491 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:17,300 Yeah it did. And it's like, you know, I swear 492 00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:22,500 by it and and like I said my husband's Quito, he is not full 493 00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:28,200 quart of water so he does great with it with when he has and and 494 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,300 how would you define your for carnivore? 495 00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:32,800 Because I feel like there's so many definitions for carnivore 496 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,300 in Quito these days. Sure. 497 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:40,300 So mine is I pretty much eat beef. 498 00:31:41,300 --> 00:31:48,200 Chicken shrimp. Eggs and butter and then I do do 499 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:54,800 coffee and I add a little bit of coconut oil to it. 500 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,200 Do you push back for drinking, coffee in the corner more space? 501 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:05,600 Yeah, I have a little bit and I even kind of openly say like 502 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,300 yeah, I do it. And it seems to be okay for now. 503 00:32:10,300 --> 00:32:12,000 If something changes, I'll stop it. 504 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:16,100 But I'm like, you know, the do you drink coffee? 505 00:32:16,300 --> 00:32:19,600 Oh hell yeah okay okay yes that's right. 506 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,700 You do duh because like I've seen you you know, you go and 507 00:32:22,700 --> 00:32:26,400 you do your your cold plunge and then you have your coffee. 508 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,600 But yeah, copies is a very important part of my day. 509 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,400 I mean, shoot aren't so that's like the, the time that 510 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,600 crystalline that's like the one time that her and I have 511 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,200 together is when we're having coffee, it's like for 20 minutes 512 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,900 in the morning. So that's like sacred time to 513 00:32:39,900 --> 00:32:45,700 me, that that's so good. It's so important to my husband 514 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:50,100 and I we we both just read this book. 515 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:52,400 I don't know if you've heard of a man up. 516 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:57,200 Have you heard of that I haven't by bade row School Ian, he's an 517 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:02,100 entrepreneur and he's real big on. 518 00:33:03,100 --> 00:33:04,900 Keeping your relationship with your spouse. 519 00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:07,100 Good. And going on these, you know, 520 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,900 one time a week, you go on a date and it's not negotiable and 521 00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:13,300 my husband. And I have been saying for 522 00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,900 years, like, we have to do this. Hmm. 523 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:18,100 Tonight. Tonight, we're going to go and 524 00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,400 see a movie. And I swear, I think it's like 525 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,300 the first time we've gone out to see a movie in, like, five 526 00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,000 years. Probably taking the girls with 527 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600 you. No, nope. 528 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,500 So now they're like they they got to stay out of it because no 529 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:38,200 matter what we do, it's like, you know, it's so hard to 530 00:33:38,900 --> 00:33:43,000 separate from being a mall, you know, and it's like, I need a 531 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,900 break sometimes. Yeah. 532 00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:46,900 No, totally. For sure. 533 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:53,700 Yeah, so with y'all starting, you know, keto carnivore 2021, 534 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:57,100 your daughters were how old at that point. 535 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:05,700 Aunt, let's see. My daughter, Kate was like 5 and 536 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:13,100 the baby was, she might have been eight months old, so she 537 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:17,600 was probably just breastfed most of the point Caitlin, probably a 538 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,199 little bit of everything. Was that a pretty hard 539 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:20,900 transition for her? Since she had kind of already 540 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,400 been ingrained in what she was eating previously? 541 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:25,699 Yes. Yes. 542 00:34:25,699 --> 00:34:28,400 Is a very, very difficult transition. 543 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,800 There were a lot of, you know, I'm not going to eat then. 544 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:38,199 It's like, she would just starve, and she would hold out 545 00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:39,800 until she couldn't hold out anymore. 546 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,500 And then, she would eat what we gave. 547 00:34:42,199 --> 00:34:44,900 Ya a bad biggie talking about it. 548 00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:52,100 I'm like, oh, that sounds harsh. But yeah, when we would go to 549 00:34:52,100 --> 00:34:56,800 the grocery, And she'd be like, oh we gotta get this and we 550 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,700 gotta get that. And I was like, no, we don't 551 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:02,300 need that anymore. Sorry and she go, oh, man, 552 00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,100 that's like it's okay. We're gonna do some other stuff 553 00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:08,300 and then I would just kind of distract her and be like. 554 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,200 So you want to go to the park later or something like that and 555 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,300 believe me. That's so much more important to 556 00:35:14,300 --> 00:35:16,400 her. Yes, spending time with you, 557 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,500 then eating some crap food for like two minutes. 558 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:24,200 I think when I get like when Roger gets it's older. 559 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:28,600 I think I'm gonna like they get frustrated at how heavily these 560 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,600 big companies Market to children on food box because I don't 561 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,100 really notice it now because it's not anything that I'm 562 00:35:34,300 --> 00:35:37,300 getting for myself anyways. But I think when he gets old 563 00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:39,300 enough where he's walking to the grocery store aisles and he's 564 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:44,100 pointing things out, I'll become aware of it more so and yeah, 565 00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:47,900 it's crazy how they play on that, you know, towards the 566 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:50,700 children's perspective to get you to buy these things that are 567 00:35:50,707 --> 00:35:54,900 just simply not food, even oh It's scary. 568 00:35:55,100 --> 00:35:59,000 It's really scary. And, you know, it's all at that 569 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,900 level where they can see it, you know, it's like low to the 570 00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:06,000 ground and the colors are just crazy and insane. 571 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:13,400 And yeah, even I tell you what, she did soccer this past summer. 572 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,100 And after every game, they would have a snack. 573 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:21,800 And I told her, I was like you're packing your own snack. 574 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,500 I was like you cannot eat with their giving. 575 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:28,000 In out because they would give out those multicolored goldfish, 576 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,600 look like red and green ones. I was like, girl, you cannot 577 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,500 have that crap. Like, you will have a psychotic 578 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:39,000 meltdown. And she's like, she said, she 579 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,900 would yes, believe me, because it is a real thing, like, food 580 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:44,900 colors. She just super sensitive to 581 00:36:44,900 --> 00:36:49,500 those. Absolutely, she is a sensitive, 582 00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:53,000 if not more to this stuff than my husband. 583 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:55,400 My husband. Are both super sensitive people. 584 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,400 So it's like, you know, you pretty much a double it with her 585 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,700 and, you know, and we'll talk about it like, you know, you 586 00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:06,800 your your body can't have this stuff. 587 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,200 This isn't even real food and she's like, you know, I know, 588 00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:15,900 and I'm like, okay, so here's your snack and you can eat that. 589 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,800 But, yeah, it's crazy. It's like these kids, they just 590 00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,900 go to the soccer. A thing so they can get their 591 00:37:25,500 --> 00:37:27,100 their gummies afterwards or whatever. 592 00:37:27,100 --> 00:37:30,300 It's like, oh no, they're already addicted, you know? 593 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,900 Yeah. Yeah it's wild. 594 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,400 I don't even know how I'm going to navigate those Waters because 595 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:36,900 you know kids that they're going to want to do what other kids 596 00:37:36,900 --> 00:37:38,700 are doing. And yes, we are. 597 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,700 Certainly in the minority when it comes to eating healthy 598 00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:46,500 foods, relative to most other kids out there would think so. 599 00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:49,600 Yeah, that's going to be tricky for sure, but it's awesome that 600 00:37:50,300 --> 00:37:52,400 that you and your husband are both kind of on the same page. 601 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:54,900 Like I talked to some people Like I've got clients whose 602 00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,600 spouse significant other are not on the same diet and I can't 603 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,900 even fathom that look. That must be just total chaos in 604 00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:04,400 the home. And I tell you what I am. 605 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,800 So like unbelievably blessed because my husband is like my 606 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:16,100 number one cheerleader, like he told me all along, he knew, I 607 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:19,200 could do it. If he knew that I could get to 608 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,900 what I wanted to be and if I didn't have that support, Art. 609 00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:27,500 Like if I was like, okay, my mom and dad like my mom will try to 610 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:32,400 do, he do and my dad will just sabotage it, you know? 611 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,300 And I just think Dave, like, I can't imagine if my husband was 612 00:38:37,300 --> 00:38:42,600 like here, I made pizza, eat it. Yeah, that would just be, I 613 00:38:42,607 --> 00:38:46,200 mean, that would be terrible. So, I mean, I'm so lucky, I've 614 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:51,200 got someone in my corner. That's always like, Going to 615 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,400 back me up. And and now the honestly the 616 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:02,000 struggle is when we do allow our family members to babysit our 617 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:07,200 children, navigating that and explaining like they can only 618 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:12,300 eat the food that we pack them. Do not give them, you know, the 619 00:39:12,300 --> 00:39:17,200 pumpkin pie and the Apples and caramel, and whatever they have. 620 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,200 And I'm thinking, oh my gosh, it's January. 621 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,200 And y'all are still getting pumpkin pie. 622 00:39:22,700 --> 00:39:25,700 How do you navigate that? Because I would imagine, oh, 623 00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:27,300 God. Can you probably the biggest 624 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,300 point of contention with you and other family members? 625 00:39:29,300 --> 00:39:31,400 Because of the mean they accidentally? 626 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,800 They don't they don't think it makes a big difference and your 627 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,300 is deep in steeped in the nutrition as you are. 628 00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:42,400 It's like like what do you do? I mean, do they do they do 629 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,500 things just to test you? I mean how is that even on full? 630 00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:49,800 Oh my gosh. It's almost like. 631 00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:57,100 Okay so for example with my mom we have gotten to a point now 632 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:02,100 where we pack their foods and just say, unless it came out of 633 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:06,100 the bag, they can't have it. Like point-blank, like don't 634 00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:09,600 even attempt anything else, just anything? 635 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,500 That's in this bag. They can have And that takes a 636 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:16,300 lot of effort to because I'm like, oh man, I gotta pack all 637 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:21,300 this stuff and, you know, it's a lot of work, but it's worth it. 638 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:27,900 Now, my husband's parents, they are going to be a lot slower to 639 00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:33,000 adapt to this. So they're the kind of people 640 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:38,900 that are like, oh, just a little bit won't hurt her and just let 641 00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:40,600 her have it. Just come on. 642 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,400 And I'm like, no, no, no, we don't do that. 643 00:40:42,500 --> 00:40:45,700 Don't do that and she'll literally be cutting a piece of 644 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,000 pie and be like, can she have this? 645 00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,400 And so my daughter's just like, oh please please, oh my, oh my 646 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:57,200 gosh, I have to look like this monster that's like, you know, 647 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,400 absolutely not cannot have that. And, you know, in my head, I'm 648 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,400 thinking, you can't have it either, you have all these 649 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,300 health problems. Yeah, yeah. 650 00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:11,700 That's going to be tricky. I can't even imagine what I'm 651 00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,200 gonna do in that situation because like, my mom, I could 652 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,700 see totally being on the same page. 653 00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:20,300 My dad. Not so much, you know, so like, 654 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:22,600 I don't know. It's so interesting, you know, 655 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,500 because I think a lot of people assume that like, your whole 656 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:30,000 family eats like you do and it's just not the case. 657 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:31,800 Yeah. Yeah, definitely not the case. 658 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,400 I mean, I'm like the only one I family. 659 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,100 Yeah, no, I know that's how, you know, Ben and I are just like 660 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:45,000 these crazy people that do this and And it's like, you know, he 661 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,600 told them he's like, you know, Melanie's got this YouTube 662 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:49,500 channel. Oh, really. 663 00:41:49,500 --> 00:41:51,900 What about psycho? She talks about her the 664 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,800 carnivore diet and how much it's helped her. 665 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:56,800 Oh, okay. And then they'll just move on 666 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,700 and nobody cares. Yeah, nobody cares what I do. 667 00:42:01,700 --> 00:42:03,300 Yeah, it's it. It's tough. 668 00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:06,300 It's funny. But yeah, it is it's tough. 669 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,300 But I know you can do it. If if I can do it you can do it 670 00:42:10,300 --> 00:42:15,500 as far as like navigating. These, you know, these kids, you 671 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:19,700 know, trying to get them to grow up understanding like how 672 00:42:19,700 --> 00:42:22,600 important nutrition is in every part of their life. 673 00:42:23,100 --> 00:42:25,000 Yeah. Thanks simply being honest and 674 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:27,700 transparent with with the kids, you know like explain to them 675 00:42:27,700 --> 00:42:31,000 why we're eating the way that that we do and how it affects 676 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,100 them and just being like very, very transparent with my if you 677 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:37,200 do that then hopefully they buy into it. 678 00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,900 Yeah. Hopefully alleviate some of that 679 00:42:40,900 --> 00:42:44,100 tension stress that is bound to Eyes, throw the family 680 00:42:44,100 --> 00:42:48,400 get-togethers and Gatherings. Yes yes absolutely. 681 00:42:48,500 --> 00:42:53,300 And you know, my one daughter, she's old enough to have seen me 682 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,500 before when I was heavier and social, you know, I'll say, you 683 00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:00,700 know, how mommy was heavy and sick all the time. 684 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,100 I feel like, you know, you don't want that to happen to you. 685 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:08,400 So we that's why we eat, you know, the way to do now. 686 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,500 And so it's just more of like leading by example, you know? 687 00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:15,500 No, like your son's going to grow up knowing like oh well 688 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,200 this is normal. This is what we do. 689 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,200 And that's the best thing is to just lead, by example. 690 00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:25,600 Yeah. I feel like a lot of people, I 691 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,600 mean, even if none of that if we were to throw all this 692 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,100 nutritional stuff out the, the window and it was not even 693 00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:34,300 applicable anymore, like, none of the researchers there and 694 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:36,300 there was no biological applications like all of that 695 00:43:36,308 --> 00:43:39,400 wasn't, you know, a non-issue like if it was just all gone 696 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,000 just simply addressing it from the standpoint of If you know 697 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,200 what makes more sense as a human being, I don't think the answer 698 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:55,100 is eating a bunch of Highly processed hyper palatable junk 699 00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:58,700 food with no nutrient quality and fancy packaging. 700 00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:02,400 That that just doesn't seem like the right common-sense solution, 701 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:08,200 you know. And so a lot of the backlash I 702 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:12,500 get is well, how do you know the people you're listening to? 703 00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,500 And Grant their medical doctors that I'm following and listening 704 00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,800 to How do you know that they're right. 705 00:44:21,900 --> 00:44:26,700 And everybody else is wrong and I said you know it doesn't take 706 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:30,200 a genius to step outside and see how fat and sick everybody's 707 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,400 gotten. Yeah, you know, so obviously 708 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,200 what they were doing isn't working and that's kind of my my 709 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,400 thing is just, you know, it kind of reminds me of what you just 710 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:46,500 said, About, let's just think for a minute here, like 711 00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:48,700 throughout all the medical jargon everything. 712 00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:53,100 And just think what makes sense, do you think we would have been 713 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:56,700 eating this? It even think about my, my 714 00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:02,700 grandmother, she was born in 1920 and I think to myself, what 715 00:45:02,700 --> 00:45:05,000 would she have thought? Would she have thought? 716 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,900 Yeah, this looks like good food. Or would she say, what is this? 717 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,300 Yeah, I remember. Yeah. 718 00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:12,500 I like, I remember giving her a fruit roll-up. 719 00:45:12,700 --> 00:45:17,200 When I was a little kid and she, she said it tastes like plastic 720 00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,100 and I'll never forget that. I mean she was just baffled by 721 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:29,300 like what I was eating and you know she's very German and they 722 00:45:29,300 --> 00:45:35,200 did a lot of, you know, liver and the they would eat 723 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,800 braunschweiger which is yeah I love ranch wagon. 724 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,200 Yeah yeah. So should say that's cooked 725 00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:42,800 organ. Meat. 726 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,200 That is so good for you and she's right. 727 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:48,800 She was right. There's a lot of things my 728 00:45:48,808 --> 00:45:53,100 grandma did and said, is that I'm like, dang she was smart. 729 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,900 Yeah, 100%. So you mentioned your YouTube 730 00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:59,400 channel, talking about that. So what what compelled you to 731 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,000 start a YouTube channel and start putting your, your journey 732 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:11,100 out there for others to see? um, I feel like it is my duty to 733 00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:16,400 spread a message of Hope and healing to anybody out there 734 00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,900 that's suffering with, especially with Interstitial 735 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:24,200 cystitis because right now, there is no cure for that. 736 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,500 Technically, there's just treatments and tons of pretty 737 00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:35,600 painful procedures, things like that and I've had such amazing 738 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,800 success Us on this diet that I just felt compelled to share my 739 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,700 experience. And then you know my husband 740 00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:47,400 kept saying like you got to do a video on this, you got to do 741 00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,100 videos and I just I would tell myself no no I can't do that. 742 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,800 I don't have the setup, I don't have quality camera quality 743 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,300 camera with all these other people have and he's like, no, 744 00:46:58,300 --> 00:47:00,000 just do it. Just do it. 745 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:04,900 And I was like, all right, I'm just going to do it and I got so 746 00:47:04,900 --> 00:47:08,700 much positive. Feedback that it was just like, 747 00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,400 wow. Because you know, my friends and 748 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,600 family that I'm around, they don't want to have any. 749 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,900 They don't want to hear anything about it. 750 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:21,200 Yeah. You could care less and in fact, 751 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:25,500 they think it's crazy. So to experience all these other 752 00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:30,800 people out there and hear about their stories of healing, like, 753 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,300 it's just unbelievable. What this can do. 754 00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:41,800 And so, yeah, I feel like I have to spread this message that 755 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,600 there's a, you know, an option for people to do this. 756 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,100 And I don't know if it's a hundred percent going to work 757 00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:53,600 for somebody but he'll it's worth a shot because I've been 758 00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,000 in a really dark place before where I thought I'm going to 759 00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,900 probably be on disability and never be able to have a job 760 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,100 because of this this just you know this condition. 761 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,200 Yeah. In front of just Completely be 762 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,000 gone is like, how is this possible? 763 00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:15,800 So yeah that's that's something that just ignited, this spark in 764 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,000 me that I want to have a channel. 765 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,600 And then my next thing is I'd like to write a book and I don't 766 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,400 even know how to start but I want to do that. 767 00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,000 That's on the list. That's certainly good. 768 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,900 You can certainly do it. Yeah, yeah. 769 00:48:32,900 --> 00:48:39,500 So I just I feel very passionate about it and I want to do this 770 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:42,600 kind of stuff. And, you know, I saw you speak 771 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,900 at the keto palooza and a bunch of other awesome people 772 00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:49,600 speaking. And I thought pan, I want that 773 00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:51,800 to be me next year. I was I want to be up on that 774 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,400 stage talking, well, definitely fine. 775 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,100 Yeah, definitely. Don't lose that passion. 776 00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:57,900 And shoot the whole reason. I wanted to even get you on the 777 00:48:57,900 --> 00:49:03,700 podcast just because like, I could tell when we spoke Like 778 00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:07,400 you just had this had a spark in your eye you know. 779 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,000 Like I feel like I mean that sounds like the way that sounds 780 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,600 like but like when I first started the dime and it really 781 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,000 helped me recover from everything that I was struggling 782 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:18,500 with disordered eating Tendencies. 783 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:22,200 Really - relationship with food all of that. 784 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,700 Like I was just so invigorated. I got my life back. 785 00:49:25,700 --> 00:49:29,700 I was I was liberated and I wanted to spread that message 786 00:49:29,700 --> 00:49:31,700 which is why I start the podcast, which is why I started 787 00:49:31,700 --> 00:49:34,400 a YouTube channel and they have any Fancy camera equipment 788 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,000 either. And it's just grown to what it 789 00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,100 has now. Organically by just simply 790 00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:43,200 sharing my journey and I feel like a lot of people especially 791 00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,800 now 2023, the keto diet has been around for quite some time that 792 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,100 the Google trend has come and Fallen. 793 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,500 It's not in its, you know, Zenith of popularity as it was 794 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:58,000 back in 2017, 18, whatever that was but there's so many people 795 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,100 that are experiencing tremendous benefit from it. 796 00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:04,200 And whenever I come into contact with people that That have that 797 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:08,900 burning passion for it and just fuel compelled to share their 798 00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:10,900 story. I feel like it's my 799 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:13,400 responsibility to give them a platform to do that because 800 00:50:14,300 --> 00:50:17,000 that's what's all about. Like you your story is going to 801 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,900 resonate with some it's not going to resonate with others 802 00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:21,400 but to give you an opportunity to have it touch some people's 803 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,700 ears and the right way so that maybe they'll give it a shot 804 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,300 themselves, maybe they'll get their life back. 805 00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:28,500 I mean that's that's what song about like this, this organic 806 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,900 natural growth of people trying things that are so far outside 807 00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:37,200 of the Status quo that it's scary to do so but if they do 808 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:40,700 and it works for them then their whole life trajectory can be 809 00:50:40,700 --> 00:50:43,300 changed for the better. Absolutely. 810 00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:47,700 And yeah, after we had our brief conversation at keto palooza and 811 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:51,800 you were like, hey yeah, I'll do I'll, you know, reach out to me 812 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,900 and we can do something. I was just like oh my God, I was 813 00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:58,300 like this guy doesn't even know me and he's going to just let me 814 00:50:58,300 --> 00:51:03,900 like do this like what a good person and my Husband and I just 815 00:51:03,900 --> 00:51:06,100 talk the whole way home, like I just can't believe this 816 00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,500 happened. I'm like, I just talked to Quito 817 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:13,900 Savage and he, he might put me on a podcast like, oh my gosh. 818 00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:17,900 And so, you know, some time had passed and finally, I got up the 819 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:20,600 nerve to email you and be like, I want to do it. 820 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:26,200 I'm ready. So, yeah, by you, you know, just 821 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:31,300 saying those few kind words, it just it propelled me into what I 822 00:51:31,300 --> 00:51:35,600 am now and I know it's going to just Get better from here. 823 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:41,000 So I'm very thankful that I ran into you when I did. 824 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,200 Yeah. Because I think you know it's 825 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,200 like perfect timing is it's really cool. 826 00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:49,000 Well, I'm grateful to have met you as well and everybody in the 827 00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,000 space, not every most people in the space are genuinely in it 828 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,000 for the right reasons and truly do care about one another and 829 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,100 they don't have this competitive mentality. 830 00:51:59,100 --> 00:52:02,400 It's like a very healthy Community for the most part. 831 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,100 So I do Don't think you have any issues, you know, reaching out 832 00:52:06,100 --> 00:52:08,300 to people and then being receptive to you and what you're 833 00:52:08,300 --> 00:52:12,200 trying to share and say obvious, there's everything I could do by 834 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:13,200 all means. Just let me know. 835 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:16,800 I'm happy to help because I mean I can tell and I could tell them 836 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:19,800 we spoke that you're in it because you simply want to help 837 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,500 people and that's what it should all be about. 838 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:26,700 Thank you so much. I do I want to help people more 839 00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:34,100 than anything and I feel so fortunate to, you know, Be able 840 00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:39,200 to do this and, you know, I want to do a lot with it. 841 00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:41,700 Yeah. I can't believe that. 842 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,400 You know, I can't believe I'm talking to you right now in this 843 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,300 podcast, even. So this is your first. 844 00:52:48,100 --> 00:52:49,400 This is your first podcast, right? 845 00:52:50,100 --> 00:52:51,400 Yes. Yes. 846 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,500 There you go. Perfect. 847 00:52:52,500 --> 00:52:54,000 Perfect job. You did great. 848 00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:57,300 Thank you. Thank you so much, Melanie word 849 00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:58,800 people. Yeah, yeah. 850 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,000 Where do people go to find out? More about you, subscribe to our 851 00:53:02,008 --> 00:53:03,500 YouTube channel and just a little deeper. 852 00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:05,500 Into your world. Sure. 853 00:53:05,500 --> 00:53:09,700 So I'm carnivore Queen on YouTube and you can check me out 854 00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:13,500 there. I have about 100 videos on there 855 00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:20,800 right now and yeah I also have, you know, an email on there and 856 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,600 if anybody wants to email me they can do that. 857 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,100 And that's all I have right now. I don't have I'm not on Facebook 858 00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:35,500 and I'm not on Instagram. Add yet. 859 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:36,000 Yeah. Yeah. 860 00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,700 On Instagram that. Yes. 861 00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:40,100 So that is something. You know what I did? 862 00:53:40,100 --> 00:53:42,000 I actually ordered that book crush it. 863 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:43,600 That you recommended. Yeah. 864 00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:47,400 And I'm reading it right now and I'm like, oh gosh I gotta get on 865 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:51,000 Instagram like yesterday and that's like an older book like a 866 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,400 lot of stuffs probably dated but the underlying message is 1000% 867 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:59,400 still Rings true. So like right, right. 868 00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:03,600 So I think I'm going to do it. I know I'm going to do it. 869 00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:05,900 Yeah, I'm going to do it and I'll get on there. 870 00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:09,900 Melanie, I am glad to have you in the space. 871 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:12,000 I am grateful to have that opportunity to chat with you on 872 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:16,200 the podcast and the community as a whole is better for having you 873 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,300 as part of it. So if there's ever anything I 874 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,100 could do by all means, just let me know. 875 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:24,400 Absolutely, I'll thank you so much for this opportunity. 876 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,200 I really appreciate everything and I'm so appreciative of all 877 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,400 the content that you put out there, you know, I love seeing 878 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:37,600 how you you and your wife, and as a family, how you go about 879 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,200 your day and I think it's wonderful. 880 00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:43,900 It's, you know, you're promoting this healthy. 881 00:54:43,900 --> 00:54:47,700 Wonderful lifestyle, that that I think a lot of people need to 882 00:54:47,707 --> 00:54:50,200 see. So I appreciate that. 883 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:52,100 And I don't know how to do it any other way. 884 00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,700 It's just the life that we live. I'm just taking it in one day at 885 00:54:54,707 --> 00:54:56,400 a time. Yeah. 886 00:54:56,500 --> 00:54:59,400 Yeah, absolutely awesome. Well Melanie, until next time 887 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,800 you have a wonderful wonderful day and a great 20 23 ahead of 888 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,900 you. Awesome. 889 00:55:04,900 --> 00:55:06,700 Thank you so much, Robert. Thank you.