1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 What's going on, y'all? Robert Sykes, Keto, savage.com 2 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,120 and today I've got special guest Yari. 3 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,039 He is the winner of the Savage System giveaway that we launched 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,960 this year. So we flew him him in from 5 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:11,840 Finland, spent the whole weekend together. 6 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,000 It's been an awesome experience. He's got an amazing 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,239 transformation story. So I wanted to bring him on the 8 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:19,000 podcast, talk about his journey, talk about what all we did, and 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:20,600 just dive a little deeper into his story. 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:23,320 So appreciate y'all. Let's roll the intro and dive 11 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:35,160 in. And we are live, Yari. 12 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,440 How are you, ma'am? Oh oh so great. 13 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:41,280 It's been so amazing weekend with you. 14 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,480 It has been a good weekend. So just to kind of give the 15 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:48,320 listeners some some context here, you were the random winner 16 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,320 for the beta launch of my Savage System course. 17 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,800 That random winner won an all expense paid trip out here. 18 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,640 Spend the weekend with me and we have done quite a bit over the 19 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,600 past few days man so. For for sure, sure. 20 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,560 It's it's been such amazing trip. 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:06,120 And you came all the way from Finland. 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,160 Yeah, yeah. Thursday, Thursday. 23 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,760 So I want to dive into all the stuff we've done this weekend, 24 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:15,680 but I want to kind of get some back story on you because you've 25 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,920 been following me since 2016, I guess, which is crazy. 26 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,680 You've had a tremendous transformation journey yourself. 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,120 So kind of talk to me about where you came from, man. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,960 You You weren't always this lean and trim and chiseled. 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:34,680 For, for, for my youth for sure. I I was very like played lots of 30 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,960 different sports and, and was very active in my youth and 31 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:47,200 maybe around when I was like a 20 maybe, maybe then I just like 32 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:53,800 a quit, quit all the sports and, and and then also like I, I have 33 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:58,400 always have a like a big appetite and, and eat, eat, eat, 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,800 eat a lot and and not not the good stuff. 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,600 So, but when, when, when you are young and you are so active and 36 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,920 play sports, it's never the problem then. 37 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:15,800 But yeah, since since then, I, I go to school and, and get the 38 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:21,400 other things going and, and then it's, it's like started little 39 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:27,200 by little. I, I like kept the same like 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:32,200 eating habits and, and, and and eat a lot of weight started to 41 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,920 come little by little. You'd, you'd, you don't like 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,040 recognized by yourself like like when it's happened. 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:48,080 And and then it was like I was maybe 2021 or 22. 44 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:54,200 I, I was in like a university studying, studying economics. 45 00:02:54,920 --> 00:03:02,360 And then I've been yeah, this like a Long story short, short, 46 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:07,800 I was meeting when I was a young younger meeting my, my sister 47 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,520 working with like a summer job. And then then I met, met this 48 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:19,640 like 1, one guy who like, became my like a mentor and, and also 49 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,560 what I, I, I become like a business partner also. 50 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:31,120 So in, in that time I, I I met, met him, him at at at in my, I, 51 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,800 I worked there like like a summer place and, and they 52 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:38,360 started their companies. Then when my, my sister worked, 53 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,840 worked with him. And then I all, all the summers 54 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:47,000 I, I went to work with, with, with them and also like, I, I 55 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,600 went to the university and I, I studied like one year and then 56 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,400 came, came again to work summer, summer with him. 57 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:03,280 And, and then there was this like I, I I didn't really didn't 58 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:06,720 like that much for, for in university. 59 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:12,480 It it all that doesn't felt like like like something for me. 60 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:17,880 And and then when I when I get back and and work work the 61 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:25,240 summer I I went to studying, it was like not not close to 62 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Helsinki, where I I kind of lived my adult thought, But I 63 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,480 gained back to Helsinki work the summer. 64 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,920 And then there was this like one, like a, like a little 65 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:43,200 miniature place opened and, and, and also then that my, my, this, 66 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:49,120 this business partner asked if, if I wanted to like stay, stay 67 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,000 work there then. And the whole time you're kind 68 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,120 of eating like a bunch of junk food and. 69 00:04:54,320 --> 00:05:00,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I I studied hard, but kept kept my 70 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:07,040 like 90% like a like a chunk food. 71 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:12,560 I never made food at home and just ate ate burgers and it I 72 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:18,080 don't know how, but maybe like 5 to maybe 5 kilos. 73 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,680 I weighed like every more more every year and and didn't like 74 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:31,280 notice it in but but still I I it was like mentally you, you 75 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,080 you know this when you when you have this kind of like a bad 76 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:39,920 eating habits, you know, like you are quite depressed easily. 77 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,120 You don't move and and and you eat this this chunk. 78 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,720 So it's affecting. But these these kind of things 79 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:52,040 you maybe notice later when you when you get healthy. 80 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,240 You don't yeah, yeah, yeah. And you don't know these those 81 00:05:56,240 --> 00:06:00,720 like like the symptoms or what, what what you want to call it 82 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:05,280 like like when you are eating and and being because you don't 83 00:06:05,280 --> 00:06:08,720 know anything else and, and. So at like 20 twos when you 84 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,880 started gaining about 5 kilos a year. 85 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,880 I, I think yeah, I think so. It was that that time when and 86 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,640 and and more more maybe when, when, when when I got get to 87 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,840 that work. It was like a quite stressful 88 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:27,320 work and and and very, very busy also. 89 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:33,520 And then I just I just we we every lunch we went, we went to 90 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,680 eat some burgers and and dinner. Dinner was then burgers also and 91 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:47,280 and some like then then I like started my first company maybe 92 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:51,600 after being a one, one year in that like a lower miniature 93 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,480 place. Then then I started my own 94 00:06:53,480 --> 00:07:00,280 company and, and when you start as you as an entrepreneur know 95 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:06,600 that it's, it's quite, a, quite a chop and, and when you first 96 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:14,640 start exactly, it's 60-70 hours a week of work and, and, and 97 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,640 quite stressed. And then then you like reward 98 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:24,040 yourself with some food and, and later came like alcohol also. 99 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:32,680 So I like evening drink. Like it's same with like like 100 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:37,960 the way that alcohol comes. Like if, if, if you would ask me 101 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,520 like when I was 18 years, I would like never, I would say 102 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,640 like it's impossible that I will like somedays eat like a 103 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:50,800 weekday, some some alcohol. So when I was you, you young, I 104 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:55,400 I partied like a normal, normal kids too. 105 00:07:55,520 --> 00:08:00,040 And but it was only like a one day and and and weekend and not 106 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:04,520 every week. And then and, and I, I, I never 107 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:09,160 understood people like who, who I always thought that if someone 108 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 drinks even like A1 beer a three, because he's kind of like 109 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:16,400 an alcoholic or something. So, and I always like that. 110 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:22,960 I will never beat that person. It's I will always like maybe 111 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:26,360 once or maybe like a bad, bad days two times. 112 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,240 So like Friday and Saturday and, and that's it. 113 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,440 And. But as the the business grew, 114 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:34,480 the stress grew, your workload grew, you started just getting 115 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,159 heavier and heavier and drinking more and more. 116 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,480 Yeah, Yeah. It's like, and also when we we 117 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:45,000 got big business got bigger. And also there's some kind of 118 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:50,440 like events come that you go dinners with the like business 119 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,760 partners and, and, or companies you work with. 120 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:58,640 And, and there is like a dinner and then you drink some wine and 121 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,520 maybe go some hockey game. Then you get some beer after 122 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:06,280 and, and, and little by little it's, it's, it's coming. 123 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:15,360 And then like it, it's then you like after sauna, you, you will 124 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:21,720 get the 11 beer and it gives you the good relax or or at least 125 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:27,000 you think you, you get the, you fall asleep better and, and get 126 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,760 that kind of thing. And then it's little by little 127 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,280 by little it it comes that it's almost like a every day you 128 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:38,440 drink one or two. And then many, many, many years 129 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:44,320 later, it was like a six or seven or eight or and yeah. 130 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,320 So you were drinking every day at that point, right? 131 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:54,840 Yeah, at the my like maybe maybe 5 or 10 years after these like 132 00:09:54,840 --> 00:10:03,680 maybe when I was like a 30 I had this like some kind of eight H 133 00:10:03,680 --> 00:10:08,680 crisis and then then then I was went first time for like a keto 134 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:14,480 and a lot lots lost lots of weight felt amazing. 135 00:10:14,560 --> 00:10:19,480 Didn't drink any alcohol like 1 1/2 years and and everything 136 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:26,160 went went went great. But after that I when I when I 137 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:32,240 got the old habits back then, yeah, maybe like when I was like 138 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:38,160 a 3233 then then it started like a mostly like getting more and 139 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,080 more and more and more and. Yeah. 140 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,600 What was the heaviest you got? You remember. 141 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:51,840 I I think it was, it was five years ago and I was double my 142 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,480 size. What? 143 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,800 I'm double your size now. We're going to do some 144 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,480 conversions because I don't. Everything you do is in kilos 145 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,400 and we're all used to pounds. So what? 146 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,080 What was the heaviest you were in kilos? 147 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:05,840 I think it was something like 165 or something like that. 148 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,000 All right, so 160. Five, maybe even. 149 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:11,480 Maybe even because I didn't weigh weigh myself every 150 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,400 sometimes could be more even. So that would have been about 151 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:20,520 363 lbs. And what is your weight in kilos 152 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,680 now? I hopefully I'm 8080 kilos now. 153 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,200 80 so it's about 100 and. 70 maybe in the weekend has come 154 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,520 like a few few. We did eat a bunch of meat this 155 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:31,280 weekend. Yeah. 156 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,520 So, yeah, from 363 lbs to 176 lbs. 157 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,080 Let's throw some pictures before and after on the show notes here 158 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,080 because you wouldn't even recognize you back then. 159 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:44,720 It's it's crazy. And you were drinking a bunch 160 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:45,920 then. Is his audio feeling good? 161 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:50,160 Is he closer to Mike? OK, so like when you were that 162 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,720 heavy and you were drinking every day, what was the tipping 163 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,320 point when you realize that this is just not sustainable? 164 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,120 This isn't going to be my identity. 165 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:00,920 Like what was the breaking point I guess? 166 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,920 Yeah. So there there was coming some. 167 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:11,720 It was like, I think 10 years ago I had these kind of like 168 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,760 symptoms that I woke up middle of the night like feeling like 169 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,520 I'm going to die because afterwards it came out that I 170 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:27,320 have like a severe like a sleep apnea and with my blood like 171 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:32,080 oxygen levels called like 70 when we did the like it was like 172 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:40,720 you passed out when when it goes so low and I it developed and 173 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,760 it, it was I think very long time. 174 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,000 I didn't know this. But the most of the time you 175 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,600 don't notice that. But your oxygen like because 176 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:56,000 you're I think it's fat in the in the like a throat or 177 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,800 something and the air doesn't come and you snore and then 178 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,680 yeah, you it, it was quite horrible to wake up when 179 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,720 especially if after you have drink and you have like a 180 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:13,600 hangover and then you like wake up and you cannot breathe. 181 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,720 So it's kind of awful feeling also. 182 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:23,360 And and then yeah, I went to the to many different. 183 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:29,280 I got some kind of like symptoms and also it, that one time it 184 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,760 was I, I went to the event to the ER because I felt like I, I, 185 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:39,280 I will have a heart attack and, and then it scares me quite much 186 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:46,760 that I then, then I quit. It was 2004, exactly 10 years 187 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:51,480 ago. And then I, I was maybe 6 months 188 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:58,720 without alcohol, but I have like a pretty bad like I, I was 189 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,400 scared to go to sleep. And I had some like those kind 190 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:09,840 of like what is like a Sonox that that is like the truck I 191 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,640 I've got. And it that some sometimes I, I 192 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,360 had troubles, bad troubles for calling, calling to sleep 193 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 because I was like a scared to die. 194 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:27,440 I'm going to die because it was that like that experience when I 195 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:32,000 went to ER, it was very, very scary and, and, and yeah. 196 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,920 And then, yeah, I, I got that CPAP machine also for my sleep 197 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,800 apnea. And that's quite annoying that 198 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:45,080 it like blows air to your, your lungs that they will like going 199 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,640 to continue. And, and it was like a that 200 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:52,680 also, I, I woke up sometimes when, when it blows and it can 201 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,360 feel like a little bit the same that you, you, you cannot 202 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,320 breathe. And that, that, that is like a 203 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:04,040 quite, quite an awful feeling. It's, it's like, like you're 204 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,760 drowning or something and kind of breathe. 205 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:10,200 And when you wake up for that, then it then it took some, some, 206 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:15,000 some long time that I, I, I could like, I, I, I, I didn't 207 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:19,200 sleep like maybe a few hours a night for, for the long, long 208 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,640 time. And it was quite stressful then 209 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,440 also and, but at the same times we were having these like 210 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,640 negotiations with, with our company that we are, we were 211 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,680 selling, selling, selling our companies to the like investment 212 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,920 company and, and, and, and it was. 213 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,840 Stressful there too. Time for for there as well, 214 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:45,880 yeah. But at that point the company 215 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,320 was super successful. Like you were making a lot of 216 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,880 money with that. This was before, so 10 years 217 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,920 ago, this would have been before you sold to the investors. 218 00:15:55,680 --> 00:16:00,360 So from society standpoint, you were very successful with your 219 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,440 career for sure. And everybody was probably 220 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,880 congratulating you. But at the same time, internally 221 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,400 you were like, I've thrown away my health in the process. 222 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:15,440 Yeah, yeah, and, and, and and and yeah, and, and after, after 223 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,120 everything, you, you, you learn, learn that that kind of success 224 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,560 is it's, it's, it's, it's like nothing. 225 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,400 If if you don't have your, your health. 226 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:31,080 I could have all the money and I had, I'm not like a like a 227 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,800 billionaire or anything like that. 228 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,920 But got, got got quite, quite amount of money. 229 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:45,760 And it what, what it did to me. Then it's I, I buy lots of nice 230 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,760 things, nice house build, build a nice like a summer house and 231 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,560 and cut the new lacquer, very nice sports car and and 232 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:58,440 everything like that. But it never felt like it was 233 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,280 like like a get eating a candy or something. 234 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:10,280 It was fun for one day or like A and and then and I travelled a 235 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:15,720 lot, did the like the best Michelin restaurants and and go 236 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:21,599 like the nicest clubs. You can go like Avip and and 237 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:27,760 everything like that. But always inside felt so, so 238 00:17:27,760 --> 00:17:38,000 like not happy for myself and and like like, like not worth a 239 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:43,880 certain certain kind of like I was still like very confident in 240 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,280 in because I was successful in, in, in in like business life. 241 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:54,560 And it never like I, I I've never been like how, how, how 242 00:17:54,560 --> 00:18:01,200 they decided to describe like not had a bad like confidence 243 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:08,040 ever because of that. But but still inside I don't 244 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,560 know that. I I, I weren't fulfilled at all. 245 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,200 Yeah, Yeah. So when you sold your share of 246 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,160 the company, because you're, you're totally sold to the 247 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,200 investors, right? Like you don't have any shares 248 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,640 at the moment? At the at the moment, I had like 249 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:27,840 we, it, it's kind of a long story, but we have lots of like 250 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:33,440 a group companies that we were, we were group that then we sold 251 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:37,160 it to investment company and then they made it like a 11 252 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:42,240 company. And, and I, I, I got the like 3% 253 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:48,440 of that company shares and I, I continued to, to work there. 254 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,960 I think I was like 2 years still working there after we sold. 255 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,040 And I, I was quite big shareholder because the 256 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:03,320 company's I sold was the most like a best success in, in our 257 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,560 group. So I got the quite a big like a 258 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,560 whole of that. And, and and I've been like 259 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:20,200 saying like they would be worth worth like a 5 or €10 million 260 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,800 today if I like be continued it there. 261 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:31,400 But like I would never hesitate the second that I would change 262 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:35,640 them to my health because it's, it's the health now. 263 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:41,040 Now I got this point. It's everything is like so much 264 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:45,680 better and and we if I would continue like my old habits and 265 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,480 and got the like 5 or 10 million more, it would be. 266 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,680 Because you said you had some buddies that stayed in there. 267 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,240 Yeah, they've continued to decline in health, right? 268 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,320 Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah. It's been like seeing, seeing 269 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:06,880 other other people that that kind of success is like, it's 270 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,920 so, so taxing that. I think only like a very minor 271 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:16,920 people can like manage all all things that you can like keep 272 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,440 keep that working life so separate that you your private 273 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:25,320 life is you can like exercise and eat healthy and and I don't 274 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:31,320 think there are many people and people maybe like that. 275 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,960 That kind of sucks is people like see see that that's like 276 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:39,440 you want you want to like get and and and nothing bad like a 277 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:45,520 like a hunt hunt success or also in in that way. 278 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:52,200 But but if if, if you you don't like concentrate your hell that 279 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:57,680 at the same time, I think it's like a it's it's not worth it, 280 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,280 not worth at. All so you, you sold to the 281 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:04,160 investors, you took a lot of your share and you you built 282 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,880 your custom house on the lakefront property with a sauna 283 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,640 with seclusion and you just double down on your health. 284 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,360 You sleep as long as you need to, you wake up when you're 285 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:17,280 ready. You do the cold plunge sauna 286 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,400 every single day in Finland. You get your puppy dog, you make 287 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,720 all your own meals, you focus on your health. 288 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:28,120 You dropped half your weight and now you're just like on this 289 00:21:28,120 --> 00:21:32,960 journey of self improvement. Yeah, exactly. 290 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,000 And and that started like a five years ago. 291 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:41,760 So so I, I left, left the company in it was quite late 292 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:49,720 2016 and then I wanted to start start already this like health 293 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,120 journey, but but and and it started quite well. 294 00:21:54,120 --> 00:22:02,720 I I I we I like get the new business sold my my hobbies 295 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,800 being like I've been collecting this vinyl records and and we we 296 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,640 open at the record store at at Helsinki. 297 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:16,960 It was like AI wanted to like it was happy and then also wanted 298 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,800 to like a make a little bit of like a business, but it's quite 299 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:27,720 hard and it first it was quite fun, but but then I, I still 300 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,440 like AI was like a maybe a little healthier. 301 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,760 I didn't drink that much, but maybe one year after we, we 302 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:41,640 opened that, then then I, I started again like a increasing 303 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:48,240 alcohol very much. And then then some like that. 304 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,000 There was this one guy who was like a also a little share 305 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:56,560 shareholder in that company and he decided to leave the record 306 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,920 store or so. And that that went like, it was 307 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,640 hard to like manage that because I, I, I, I, I, I wasn't there 308 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,800 like like at working. So I was like in the back and 309 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:14,480 work, work some sometimes some something, but the I wasn't 310 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,440 meant to be also that I, I really like her always, always 311 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:23,960 are there. And then we, we sold, sold that 312 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:29,600 company to and then, then it, it came. 313 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:37,560 So like more and more and more like after, after you give up 314 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:43,520 those certain kind of structures in life, like I've been so work 315 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:50,520 like orientated it all because it it's still like a very close 316 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:56,360 comedy when you are in in and, and your life is like all that. 317 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,000 And then when you suddenly like stop. 318 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:09,040 And also also those like working like partners there when, when 319 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,280 they are out, they, they've been like a 15 years, like everyday 320 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,320 life. And then they, they like 321 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,600 disappear and also like like lots of like a friends and 322 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:26,120 everything like changes a bit when you like drop, drop that 323 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,520 kind of like the things in life. So it's. 324 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,600 And do you still have shares in the original company? 325 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,160 No, no, you sold out completely. Yeah, yeah, they we there is 326 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,720 this kind of like a agreement you you need to make when you 327 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:46,400 that if you leave, you need to sell your shares and and you 328 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:49,760 know certain kind of like a money also that you you don't 329 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,600 like if you leave before they they are these kind of investors 330 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,960 company that that bought us. They they they are already sold 331 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,480 like one time and to the another investment. 332 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,920 They are like making like a three to like a six year 333 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,720 investments that they they will like grow business a lot by by 334 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:15,200 by lots of different companies. And then they will resolve and 335 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,360 and and and when you when when it's resolved, it's called like 336 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:23,440 an exit. Then then you get the like like 337 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:31,040 the sell your stocks like in in that money you, you, you will 338 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,520 give. So so I I I needed to like I I 339 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:38,360 didn't get any like a more money from when I was sold, even if we 340 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:43,200 we were worth what more than at the time I said, but I needed to 341 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:47,240 like sell them at a certain like the same same kind of money. 342 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,840 Maybe I got maybe little more than I paid, but. 343 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Yeah. So no longer any 344 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,240 responsibilities with that company and the record store 345 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,440 sold, so no longer responsibilities there. 346 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,960 No, yeah. At that point, you were still 347 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,040 drinking. Yes. 348 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,360 But you weren't, you were eating a little bit better at that 349 00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:06,680 point, right? Are you still pretty heavy? 350 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:10,960 Yeah, yeah, I, I had like these these few moments like when when 351 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:16,920 I had those like like bad seizures at 10 years ago, I was 352 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:23,480 like 6 months eating more healthier and, and not drinking 353 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:28,200 at all. And, and then at the maybe 20-17 354 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,360 at the start, it was like a little bit like the same. 355 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:36,600 But then then after we sold this, this like record company, 356 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,320 then then it was like a the biggest, like a downfall for for 357 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,480 two years. Because you done everything like 358 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,160 that you were passionate about. I had nothing like a like a 359 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,800 structure in my life and it was quite funny. 360 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:57,960 I leave it in a like a roof house apartment in the middle of 361 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:06,080 Helsinki, like a one €1,000,000 apartment like a greatest place 362 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,440 in the Old Town, like a soul centre at at the town you can 363 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,120 but I never went to the I. I always ordered like a chunk 364 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:21,800 food to my home, went to the downstairs shop to get some beer 365 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,320 and and other alcohols. And then there was like this in 366 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,360 Finland we don't like a normal shops. 367 00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:30,240 We cannot buy like a strong alcohols. 368 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,760 So there is like a shops for that, that has like a monopoly. 369 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,840 And then that that was like A11 kilometre away. 370 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,200 So I I went there and I drive with the car because I couldn't 371 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,040 like walk there. I went went to car and few times 372 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:53,720 a week and I bought a lot, lots of liquor like strong alcohol. 373 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,640 Was that when you were like, in your deepest, darkest, depressed 374 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,000 state? And that was when you were at 375 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:04,920 your heaviest weight, too. Yes, that then, then it was from 376 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:10,000 from 2018 to 2020. Then I, I gained like I think 377 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:16,000 maybe 12:10 or I, I didn't weigh myself ever, but but I, I 378 00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:20,880 certainly know this that I, I, I didn't do anything like I I just 379 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:29,000 like watch it movies at my home and drink alcohol and a junk 380 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,360 food. That that's basically what I 381 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,120 did. Didn't want to see any people. 382 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:41,760 Just felt felt bad sometimes. So like a few few friends, but 383 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,920 most of times just it was just what? 384 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Was from from that moment, you know, you had sold the big 385 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,200 company you had built, you sold the record store. 386 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:57,160 You're in the the Creme de la Creme part of town in Helsinki, 387 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560 but you're drinking and you're kind of reclusive, like you're 388 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:03,480 just sticking to yourself for the most part, eating a bunch of 389 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,520 junk food. What was the like? 390 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,480 That's when you were having all the the sleep issues too I'm 391 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,920 assuming, right? Yeah, they were still going on. 392 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,720 Yeah, I, I I had this like that CPAP machine all the time and 393 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:22,960 yeah and yeah, my sleep was so awful and a ten time I I didn't 394 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,160 like I always like started to drinking like afternoon. 395 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,880 I didn't drink from the first thing in the morning. 396 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,800 That, that I always like to consider that, that Alcoholics 397 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,480 do that. And no, no, no, no, no, no one 398 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,880 else. But yeah, I and I, I still was 399 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,120 like some kind of like a health conscious. 400 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,480 I most of the days I still make in, in the morning when I, when 401 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,560 I could eat something. I make this like this, like a 402 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:56,520 fruit, like a smoothie. Definitely not keto though. 403 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:04,520 Definitely not nothing like keto and and ate took some vitamins 404 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:11,600 and still in in certain kind of way you still think that you are 405 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640 kind of healthy. Yeah, I just get. 406 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:22,120 And you really don't see yours. It's so, so hard to describe it 407 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,400 how, because it's you, you, you know that you are not healthy 408 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,920 and you know when you look in the mirror that you are. 409 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,200 But inside there's still some like level that you as you do 410 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,680 those like take vitamins and and eat that they will somehow like 411 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,920 reverse all those stupid things you you are doing and. 412 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,160 What was the Because you've been sober now for how many years? 413 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:54,080 Five years comes now when I started 1st of January 2020, my 414 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,240 new new journey. And that's when you started 415 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,640 doing keto straight up. I was like a first month and a 416 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:09,480 half I was like this, this like a normal healthy, healthy 417 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,920 eatings. But it was amazing how how still 418 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:21,720 I was like I was eating still quite and still I was like so 419 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,520 hungry all the time. I ate like a oatmeal and bro 420 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:29,720 diet like yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. 421 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:35,720 And and all the like a brown rice and potatoes and and yeah, 422 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,680 and still I was like hungry all the time. 423 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:46,240 And then then I have always been like a still like a watching 424 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,760 this scene as as I'm, as you mentioned, I've been always like 425 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,760 what watching your content still as you you were kiddo, because I 426 00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:01,800 at 2008 and 9:00 and 10:00 when I was like this kiddo, I then 427 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,120 it's I I still like continue to like. 428 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,560 You know it works. Yeah, and I know it works and 429 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,040 and I always like what what what what's it like the those like 430 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,000 who who is like you and and then I don't know I don't I don't 431 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,800 even remember how I like AI think I some some YouTube video. 432 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:27,360 I I I saw in 2016 or 17 of yours like and and I I still like 433 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,920 watch it then all like a Sean Baker and those like a boss 434 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,160 Hardy. You know the stuff I even a few 435 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,960 years before I I started. I I still like a new and what's 436 00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:43,920 what's there and and I think I always like I knew I knew it, 437 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:51,840 it, it it would work, but but it's like this super addict 438 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,160 being super addictive. It's it's so hard to like start, 439 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,080 start. But yeah. 440 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:07,960 So after maybe 1 1/2 years, then half months, I, I, I just also 441 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:14,160 the alcohol like removal symptoms was very, very severe 442 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:20,040 and very like so hard to sleep very like getting these certain 443 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,440 kind of panic attacks or, or or I don't know how to, but still 444 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,600 like waking up at night and still got lots of sleep was 445 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:34,040 terrible. Any anyway and it was very, very 446 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,520 hard. I, I leave it then by the solo 447 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:44,440 next to my like my parents. And I remember that my I asked 448 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:50,560 my mother to come with live with me when I started when I because 449 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:56,640 at the at the like end of my journey, I, I drink like a 20 to 450 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,800 25 portions of alcohol every day. 451 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,880 That's quite, quite a lot. And it was, I was like, afraid 452 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,480 that something might happen. When I like getting the shakes, 453 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,880 yeah. Yeah, yeah, I had like a like A 454 00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:20,760 and I all at very last like maybe half year, I also started 455 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,199 my days with alcohol because I had such a bad like a hangover 456 00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:32,679 that and that's the that's the time you you and I realized that 457 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:39,920 this is like a yeah, I'm going to like keep doing this like A5 458 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:46,600 next 5 or 10 years and then then I'm I'm I'm done because because 459 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:50,639 it was so bad. I had like a bad like every 460 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:56,840 morning I I was coughing so much and, and had very troubled time 461 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:04,160 to pre because I was so heavy and also like, I don't know, so 462 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,680 inflamed. I guess it was. 463 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,960 And yeah, that then then I started to drink and and I 464 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,440 remember it's quite funny that I, I, I bought this like a 465 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,280 Finland. We have this like a chin drink. 466 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:22,560 It's like got longer and there is this like a bilberry longer 467 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,080 that I somehow thought that it's little like a bit healthier 468 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040 because it has bilberry like a tasty. 469 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,840 Nature of the alcohol. Yeah, yeah. 470 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,680 And yeah. And then yeah, because I I 471 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:42,800 started that then, then, then and when, when it and I always 472 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,200 started to drink. I haven't eaten anything because 473 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:52,560 it if, if I wouldn't like if I would eat, then it wouldn't like 474 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:57,560 a cut like the good, like a high from the alcohol if I would 475 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,400 drink it like. So I always drink to the empty 476 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,680 stomach, but still at the very end of of those times, it's, 477 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:11,320 it's like I couldn't like most of times it's, it was just like 478 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:17,840 a, like a keeping that I, I would even feel a little bit 479 00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,480 like a normal. And that's quite interesting 480 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:24,840 because I'm watching lots of this like a Chris Palmer stuff 481 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,840 that he like that alcohol. When, when, when we are quite 482 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,760 instantly resistant. You, you get like this lactate 483 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:40,320 from the alcohol that like gives you like the, that energy that 484 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:45,480 that food cannot give it, that it makes you feel like a little 485 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:50,480 bit normal. And, and after now the the 486 00:36:50,480 --> 00:37:00,080 ketones that keep I I don't think it, it's like a it's so, 487 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,960 so, so hard to like with that kind of alcohol comes from some 488 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:12,520 without any like drugs or that's how powerful this like way, way 489 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,640 of eating and life is because the ketones I think they are so 490 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:21,560 like the for the brain, so. They kind of bridge that gaps. 491 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:25,160 Yeah, yeah. And breaks that like a barrier 492 00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:32,240 that that and because the first like, yeah, the one 1 1/2 months 493 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:39,160 I, I spent with I, I still had so much cravings to the, to the 494 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:45,760 alcohol and, and everything because, yeah, since like I've 495 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,800 been drinking like from from 2010 or 11. 496 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,600 When you are drinking that much, you're you are like quitting 497 00:37:55,600 --> 00:38:00,720 every day of the year. So that's I always like bought 498 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:06,520 also alcohol like that that next day I was I didn't like or maybe 499 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:12,520 like I bought more most of like that one drink and Sunday and 500 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,520 then Monday I will stop and sometimes I stop and being like 501 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,680 a two days without or even one week or sometimes even two 502 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,400 weeks. But then then every time you you 503 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:30,320 you go back. But yeah, so I remember then 504 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,800 after that one one and a half, six weeks, that kiddo was so 505 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,320 great then. And so, so I, I really should 506 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:46,240 like and I, I watch it still like lots of this continent and 507 00:38:46,240 --> 00:38:50,640 2020 it was coming more popular and popular and more like a 508 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:57,920 content creators and and yeah, then but I, I didn't start like 509 00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,680 a carnivore or anything. I was like a starting keto, keto 510 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:06,200 and and and. How long did it take you to lose 511 00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,880 the weight once you started keto? 512 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,960 Like if you started 2026 weeks in 2020 going full. 513 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:17,600 Board. So I was, I was at end of the 514 00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:22,920 first year, I think I lost like 50 kilos a lot. 515 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:24,720 Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. 516 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,720 And. You've been dining. 517 00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:28,680 You've been dining kind of pretty much ever since. 518 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,040 Five years straight. Yeah, it's all. 519 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:35,160 About oh, maybe, maybe like A4 four last year it was four 520 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,600 months, like a first time. I was trying to build muscle and 521 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,840 bulk up and yeah. Yeah. 522 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960 When did you start working out? Like when did you start bringing 523 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:49,800 that into the picture? So I, I started walking at first 524 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:54,440 or when I, when I, when I started 20/20 at January, I 525 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,360 started walking and I could, I, I remember there's this like a 526 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:04,600 small where where you dump the chunk and there's this one like 527 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:08,840 a little circle. I, when I started, I could walk 528 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:14,760 that like a one or two times and it, it's like 250 meters or 529 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,840 something. And I was so exhausted after 530 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:19,800 that. But then I. 531 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,880 Little by little started to one more round, one more round, one 532 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,320 more round. Then it's turned like a there's 533 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,560 this other like a circle that it was 2 kilometers. 534 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:43,080 Then I started to walk that and little by little, I think at the 535 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:50,000 first summer I, I was already walking like those like a 5 536 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,480 kilometres circles two times a day. 537 00:40:53,480 --> 00:41:00,720 So basically the first two years I walk it like 15 to 20,000 538 00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:06,320 steps every day. So so I I I walk, walk walk at 539 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:14,040 the most and the first year, maybe in autumn I started to 540 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,600 weightlift for the first time 2020. 541 00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,440 What was your like friends and family group like? 542 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,200 Were they pretty supportive of you doing this or were they 543 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:26,360 involved at all or? Yeah, My, my, my lack of mother 544 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,680 and father, It has been very supportive. 545 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,840 My mother is like a little bit scared of the of what I what I 546 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:42,800 eat, but still super supportive. Have been but yeah, it's like 547 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:49,080 some kind of it's this when when you start this journey and and 548 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:55,880 also if you want to like it's because my friends saw most of 549 00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:01,560 France was like still still still most are like eating this 550 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:06,160 junk food and eating. So I need to restrict a lot of 551 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:13,800 like I didn't see like maybe few friends were my closest friends 552 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:20,880 was the and I needed to cut and also like maybe some some would 553 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:26,000 cut cut me too because I wasn't drinking and doing that kind of 554 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:30,040 lifestyle. But yeah, it's I didn't see lots 555 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:34,720 of people even then when I started this because it was like 556 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:38,120 in my head that I need to. And then I make this like a 557 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:45,160 comeback and and now now I have maids also, but I I didn't like 558 00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,880 a use social media. I started that like a six months 559 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,520 ago again. I was. 560 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,760 Put your head down and grinding man. 561 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:59,640 Yeah, yeah. And I, I, I'm, I'm that kind of 562 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:07,200 person that I don't like need like a woman or something like 563 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:14,400 in my life, like to have like a that, like a necessary that I 564 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,200 can be at myself. And I've been more most, most 565 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,440 time just alone. And I, I feel comfortable being 566 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,360 alone. I, I don't, I I kind of like, 567 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:30,400 like my solitude and, and are the person that if I'm close to 568 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,400 somebody with with lots of time, then and then it's like a it's 569 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,000 more like a that I need my like a all time. 570 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:45,400 And, and yeah, so, so that's why few it's now almost two years. 571 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,080 I moved, moved to the my lake house. 572 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,640 It's it's kind of middle of nowhere, especially at the 573 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,520 winter. I lived there all by myself and 574 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:57,720 closest neighbours are maybe one kilometre away and there I am. 575 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,800 I love it, man. I'm trying to remember when you 576 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,440 emailed because you, I remember getting an e-mail from you way 577 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,480 back in the very beginning. I don't even know what year that 578 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,920 would have been. That would have been probably 579 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,320 20/20/21 maybe. Yeah, yeah, something like them. 580 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,360 So I knew of you from that e-mail and I saw your before and 581 00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:16,160 after pictures and it was super impressive. 582 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:21,240 And then when I launched the course earlier this year, 2024 583 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,040 and you did you, you bought the beta course then you won the. 584 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Giveaway. Yeah, yeah. 585 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,600 And then I sent this like a e-mail to you as well. 586 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,040 Yeah, like, like, yeah. And then you won the giveaway. 587 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,800 Yeah. And I'm like, man, this. 588 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:40,760 Was so couldn't believe it then and still still couldn't 589 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,400 believe, but here I am. Yeah, here you are, man. 590 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:49,200 So you, you came in on Thursday, flew into Houston or Dallas in 591 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,320 Dallas and then drove up here, get here on Friday and what do 592 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,120 we do on Friday? Man, we, we did so much to try 593 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,240 to remember what all we did. We went out. 594 00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,520 I came to here, yeah. And we just you toward the York. 595 00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,920 Yeah, shows facility. Then we went to the steakhouse. 596 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,400 Steakhouse. Yeah, yeah. 597 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,040 Got a big old steak, 2 LB rib eye, so that was good. 598 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:19,080 And then on Saturday, we met up. You, you came to pick me up from 599 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:23,200 the capping, which you provided. Very nice capping, yeah. 600 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,360 You're big enough photographer, next time you have to bring your 601 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,200 camera because we got you in a cabin out in the woods. 602 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,840 There's all kinds of animals out there. 603 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:31,760 Armadillo was there. Yeah, armadillos. 604 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,600 All kinds of honks. Yeah, But then we met up with 605 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,640 Greg and we got a workout in at J Street Gym on Saturday in 606 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,960 workout, got a great workout in. After that we came back, met up 607 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,360 with Crystal and Riger. Then we went on a four mile, 4 608 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,160 1/2 mile hike around Lincoln. Yeah, it was amazing. 609 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,400 Weather was perfect, everything here. 610 00:45:51,720 --> 00:45:52,800 That was good. That was good. 611 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,320 We're pretty. Yeah. 612 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,560 I was carrying Riger. That was a little double workout 613 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,400 there and then we'll be do. We went over to the house and we 614 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,880 ate a ton of food, man. That I had never seen steaks so 615 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,560 big. Yeah, it was like a that thing 616 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,320 had to be 3 lbs three # Chuck Rose for sure. 617 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,920 Had that crystal made some keto cheesecake? 618 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,240 That was the best ever. I I don't think there can be any 619 00:46:19,240 --> 00:46:22,600 better cheesecake than that. You still need to give that 620 00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:24,480 recipe. I will, I will, I will. 621 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,240 We had that. We had stuffed mushrooms, 622 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:30,840 jalapeno poppers, pork rinds. We were eating the cheesecake a. 623 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,680 Little cut. Little cut. 624 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,880 Yeah, yes, you cook some kind. By the way, man, you are the 625 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,920 only person that's ever been able to cook fish that Crystal 626 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,840 actually likes. So that that was good. 627 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,280 Yeah. And then we had a cheesecake 628 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,280 slice and we wound up having a second cheesecake slice, all 629 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:53,480 keto, so no worries. Yeah, that was good. 630 00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,280 And then Sunday, yesterday, what'd we do? 631 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,320 Sunday we we got together for another workout. 632 00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:02,960 We went to Ozark. Island then went to the crystal. 633 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,000 Yeah, we went to Crystal Bridges like a world run out Art Museum 634 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,160 here. We toured that. 635 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:11,080 They like this western themed travelling exhibit. 636 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,520 We did that. Then came back, we grilled some 637 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,520 of that elk that I got a few weeks back. 638 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,360 Once again, amazing. More cheesecake. 639 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,720 And some gorgonchola melted. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 640 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,040 So that was good. And yeah. 641 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,720 And that brings us to the day, man. 642 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,120 Yeah. And it's going to be good. 643 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,520 We're going to have you making some keto bricks after the 644 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:34,280 podcast here. So you can see that this was the 645 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,920 first time you had a keto brick was when you came here. 646 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,440 Yeah. Because, yeah, I've been wanted 647 00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:43,440 to order them so many times, but it's, yeah, the shipping and all 648 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,640 the customs, it's been like a mess. 649 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,760 So where did that for solar? And that was the first thing I 650 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:53,400 ate Friday when I came. Yeah, yeah. 651 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,240 And it was so amazing. I'm glad to hear it man. 652 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,400 We went to the Western store to try and get you a cowboy hat. 653 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:02,520 Yeah, but they were. But they didn't have any white 654 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:03,760 ones. Won a white cowboy. 655 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,080 Dallas and find find the white one. 656 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,280 Well, when you go to Dallas, you'll have plenty of options 657 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,040 for cowboy hats, and you're also going to get some BBQ there too. 658 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,400 Yeah, in Austin as well. Austin as well, yeah. 659 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:18,280 You have to get a beef rib. A BBQ beef rib man. 660 00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,600 Yeah, that you you suggested. So yeah, that I will definitely 661 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:23,800 try. So we'll do that. 662 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,280 But yeah, man, it's pretty freaking awesome time having you 663 00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,040 here. I'm going to for sure have to go 664 00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,720 to Finland now. Yeah, check. 665 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:32,640 Out your Sonic Cold Plunge combo. 666 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:36,080 Yeah, because, yeah, I just wanted to thank you so much 667 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:40,320 because this is like being one of the best weekends I have ever 668 00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:45,040 spent and you have been. So your hospitality and 669 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,280 generosity is being because everybody in I watch a lot of 670 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:55,360 this content in this like keto carnivore space and everybody 671 00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:01,040 says how like a good person you are and and and it's you, you 672 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,680 have been that and more and even. 673 00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:07,560 I appreciate that man. Seeing you in person, Yeah. 674 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,840 And dream come true to meet. Meet you in person. 675 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,680 Well, likewise, it's cool for me to be able to meet people all 676 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,640 over the world, hear their stories and, and it's like, it's 677 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,760 cool for me to talk with you because like people have this 678 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,680 idea of what success is, you know, maybe it's monetary, maybe 679 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,320 it's relational, maybe it's health, wealth, combination of 680 00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,840 all the above. But like it's cool to listen to 681 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:37,640 you because you checked a lot of those boxes and you kind of 682 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,120 sacrificed your health in the process. 683 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,000 And I've had several clients that are like that, like they're 684 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,680 very successful from a monetary standpoint. 685 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,440 But like if you, you could have all the money in the world, but 686 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,520 if you don't have your health, you got nothing, you know? 687 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,600 So that's the message. I want to like that. 688 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:58,480 That's why I want to and I also give like people's hope that 689 00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:06,280 because the way I was, it's quite like a traumatic how 690 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:12,240 obese, morbidly obese I was. And here I am without any like 691 00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:19,240 drugs or, or it, it's just this way of eating and, and life. 692 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:26,040 And it's, it's almost hard to like describe how like 693 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:33,400 everything changed. It's like like in all aspects of 694 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:38,120 of life have changed so much. When, when, when, when, when, 695 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,840 when you are like a consistent with with with this kind of 696 00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,240 living. And it's yeah, but I want to 697 00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:49,880 give like a people hope and also like that every you, you can do 698 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:52,800 it. Do it because if I can do it, 699 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,440 you you can do it. And you don't need any like 700 00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,640 miracles, but. And you're thriving now, man. 701 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,080 Like you get a naturally occurring total testosterone of 702 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,440 1300 because you're checking the right boxes, you're eating the 703 00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,720 right food, you're active, you're sleeping, you're you're 704 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,120 stress free. Like you're allowing your body 705 00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:15,720 to function as it should and it's rewarding you in the 706 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,840 process. So like, you know, we got two 707 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:19,600 good solid workouts in while you were here. 708 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,600 We're going to keep pushing the envelope there. 709 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,480 And now it's starting to do like a new, new, new chapter because 710 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:30,120 five years I've been dieting. And so now, now it's time to 711 00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:33,560 build some muscle and let's see how how that goes. 712 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:38,400 Maybe I I will join after few years your competition. 713 00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,800 Hey man, we'd love to have you. I think that's good too. 714 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,520 Like a lot of people spend so much time dieting and it's hard 715 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,440 when you've lost a bunch of weight, totally transformed your 716 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,200 physique to like embrace the other side of actually seeing 717 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,960 the scale go up and eating more food. 718 00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:53,880 But like, you can't keep dieting. 719 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,440 It's not good for you. So you've taken some time to 720 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,960 build muscle. Realized that because now we've 721 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:04,960 been you've been coaching me also like the last four four 722 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:09,080 months yeah because it has been this like obsessed in my mind 723 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:15,760 that I need to be in certain like under 10% fat and someday I 724 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,520 will be but but maybe now it's not the like the ideal time 725 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,960 because five years of consistent. 726 00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,080 Well, if you focus on building muscle now, you can focus on 727 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,680 getting to that sub 10% for the competition after you've had 728 00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,520 some time in the building place. That that that's my my like 729 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,160 thought also now it's. Going to be good man and you 730 00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,720 have inspired me to get an old school record player. 731 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,440 That's. Fantastic. 732 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,240 So I'm gonna I'm gonna start rocking some old school vinyl 733 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:47,680 now. You've got quite the collection. 734 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,760 I mean you get, you said you got like 5000 records or something. 735 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,440 Like that I don't mind, but 3000? 736 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,920 3000 records. Yeah, that's pretty impressive, 737 00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,520 man. But yeah, it's, it's cool. 738 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,640 I like bringing people from all over the world and just learning 739 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,080 from them and what they're interested in. 740 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,920 So you've definitely imparted on me the desire to get some some 741 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,760 record players go to that vinyl shop that we went to, Yeah. 742 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,000 It it was great scored some few few findings on. 743 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:12,960 Yeah, yeah. That's awesome, man. 744 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,440 Yeah. Where can people go to follow 745 00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,120 you? Just dive into your journey a 746 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:19,560 little bit more and learn more about what you get going on. 747 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,200 Well, I have this this Instagram, maybe you can put 748 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:27,480 some like a new songs. Yeah, how to spell that Yeah. 749 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,480 There. I I started like a six months 750 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:35,080 ago to not not that much. Maybe this this kind of like a 751 00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,680 training or or or eating, but my life. 752 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,840 I put there quite a much my my so if you want to follow there, 753 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:44,680 yeah. Yeah, I'll link after that for 754 00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:46,480 sure, man. Yeah, we'll definitely do this 755 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:47,360 again. Like I'm going to come up to 756 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:48,920 Finland now for sure. We'll have to have you come 757 00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,160 back. Down here to Arkansas. 758 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,440 I will definitely come back. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100% man, we 759 00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,760 are. It's been a pleasure, brother. 760 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,080 Yeah, we'll go make some keto bricks before you head out, man. 761 00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:00,520 We'll go take some progress pictures. 762 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,920 We got some documentation there and then we'll go make some keto 763 00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:07,800 bricks and we'll call it a wrap. Fantastic and thanks again for 764 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:09,160 everything. Appreciate you, brother. 765 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,600 Appreciate you. It's been an honor.