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What's going on? 
Ladies and gents Robert Sykes? 

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Keto Savage.com. 
And today I've got special guest

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Sylvia Von Douglas it to on the 
line. 

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And she is just, I mean, she 
just a badass. 

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That's a pretty much the only 
word that describes her. 

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She is in Thailand. 
She is a Muay Thai 

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extraordinaire. 
She is going for a world record 

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and breaking. 
The current record of 471 

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recorded recorded fights, and 
she is doing all of this. 

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While following a strict 
ketogenic diet. 

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She is learning from some of the
greats. 

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She is recording and documenting
her journey. 

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And she is making some serious 
waves in the Muay Thai space. 

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I know nothing about more time, 
but I was introduced to her my 

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chip who has been instructing us
on MMA throughout the weeks here

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at keto brick. 
We all been fighting together in

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a good loving way but fight 
nonetheless, doing some MMA 

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every single week and he was 
telling me about Sylvie. 

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So I had to get on the podcast, 
Diamond to her nutritional 

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protocol dive into her fights, 
diving her lifestyle, and Glad I

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did because I learned a ton and 
I've got no doubt that you will 

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as well. 
So that further Ado, sit back, 

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relax. 
Enjoy the podcast with Sophie. 

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And we are live Sylvia. 
How are you? 

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I'm doing. 
All right. 

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Thank you. 
Glad to have you. 

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I'm excited to have you just to 
give the listener some context. 

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I am not a Muay Thai, expert 
connoisseur, or any of that 

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stuff. 
One of my employees is big and 

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Tim we time and he keeps wearing
the shirt with a big picture of 

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your face on it. 
And I'm one day I'm like, what? 

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Who is this person? 
You keep wearing a shirt of and 

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Started talking to me about you 
and we've since pretty much 

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started doing like a Muay Thai 
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the whole crew gets together and
we have been practicing MMA and 

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everything, and he was talking 
about you, and he said that you 

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have been doing a ketogenic diet
sunlight will shoot. 

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Let me just get on the podcast. 
So, that's where we are now. 

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Well, that's a very cool 
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like that, very much. 
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Yeah, it's been pretty cool. 
I mean, he's been doing MMA and 

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all kinds of martial arts for 
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And when he started working for 
us, like we've got a gym at our 

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warehouse facility here and half
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bags and kicking bags and and 
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So we're just decided to all 
regroup on Wednesdays and train.

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So I've been kind of getting 
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Ketogenic is my Realm. 
Muay Thai is not but you've kind

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of Blended it too. 
I hear Yeah, I was actually 

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looking at your podcast when you
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like, oh, he's got a lot of like
experts. 

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People have people actually know
all of the science of how 

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everything works. 
But one of the things that I've 

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really enjoyed about the keto 
genic diet is that it is such a 

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study of one that you see the 
effects, you can feel the 

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effects and it's like, okay, I 
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difference here and not there, 
like it's really not, it's not 

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complicated in the sense of 
like, I don't know whether this 

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is working or not. 
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whether it's working for you or 
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Yeah, totally. 
Totally green. 

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It's always exciting for me to 
talk to athletes that are just 

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excelling in. 
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leveraging a ketogenic bad 
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like in Thailand. 
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popular in Thailand at all. 
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come and gone like it was super 
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still now, but it's kind of it's
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anymore and you see a lot of 
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that do a ketogenic diet because
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have carbs. 
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Finding and You just all the 
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from like a recovery 
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that to leveraging. 
That is pretty exciting. 

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Yeah, it was my initial foray 
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Like, the reason I decided to 
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know, physical optimization kind
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It was actually because I had 
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doing what I do, the mental 
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difficulties of being a woman in
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That's not mine. 
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So I actually got into it just 
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in the kind of help that it 
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And I was kind of willing to 
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know, whatever people talk about
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do. 
That's the first question. 

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They ask is like, don't you get 
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know, physically to get through 
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get the mental benefits which 
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me a lot. 
I want to dive all into that. 

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But before we pull the curtain 
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to kind of learn about your 
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place. 
Like what led you down that life

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path? 
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that I had moved in with, he's 
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with my husband and he was 
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martial arts movies, and some of
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getting burned out and I was 
like enough like I can't I can't

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watch any more of these. 
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one more you have to see because
there's nothing else like it and

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it's this movie that I think a 
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with, might I know it's called 
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It's got Tony job, who's kind of
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and my mouth just dropped open 
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And I just kind of have like a 
intuitive feeling towards it 

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that I didn't have towards the 
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want my body to do that. 
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that, but I didn't think of it 
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fight. 
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like a like an art form like 
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just kind of get into but by 
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Fortune who I met to train me, 
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is now like 84 years old and 
training himself and 

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occasionally students out of his
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just instilled in me this 
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I just went crazy with it. 
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over my life, the way that it 
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husband's amazing and, you know,
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makes things happen. 
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this just completely our full 
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So, were you, where were you 
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It's kind of by West Point. 
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Sarah Lawrence, which is kind of
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I'm a country mouse. 
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moved from New York and Just to 
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Concepts. 
How old were you, when you 

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started watching all these 
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was 24 years old. 
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whatever age they give me too 
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I'm like, nope. 
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prior to 24 years old. 
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which they say is my tie but 
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So it's like taekwondo. 
Yeah, this is cool because like,

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like Every kid at some point 
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start, you know, hitting things,
kick things and like this is 

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what I want to do and then like 
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wind up, you know, later down 
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Wish they had done it, but they 
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I mean, I'm 30 years old now and
it's like, man, I've got a kid 

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on the way. 
I'd love to learn some, some, 

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martial arts. 
Take some Jujitsu classes, do 

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some of this stuff. 
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enough started, doing it with 
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get them, starting at a young 
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Unstoppable. 
But here I am 30 like should I 

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do this? 
Should I not do this? 

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And I think I'm going to do it. 
I mean doing this weekly with 

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our employees has been super fun
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But to know that you're doing it
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started at 24 super impressive. 
I have a one of my brother's is 

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married to a woman who teaches 
gymnastics and so they have two 

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very young kids and they're 
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young age. 
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stuff with your parents, like 
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it kind of Sent to you, whether 
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It's such an important bonding 
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physicality with your parents. 
Totally. 

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So when you were doing this at 
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quickly? 
Like, had you done a lot of, you

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know, physical stuff prior to 
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That I mean you were in tune 
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mobility and were able to just 
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arduous process? 
It's it was a little bit of 

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both. 
I've always been a very active 

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person growing up in Colorado. 
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I played soccer growing up a lot
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very active but I had never done
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different. 
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like, Things things that you're 
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growing up as a woman in 
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more bold and some people might 
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really difficult to capture just
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stand in someone's face and it's
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do that when you've been 
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rude or uncomfortable or 
something like that. 

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So I consider myself actually a 
late bloomer in terms of my 

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Progress in my time, but I don't
know if other people would agree

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with me on that given how far 
the time I've been doing it, but

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I'm just always trying to, you 
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things that I consider it a 
very, very long process. 

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What you're going for a record. 
If I read your Instagram by a 

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correctly, there's a record of 
471 fights and you're trying to 

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beat that, correct. 
Yeah, so the caveat of that is 

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that the sky lend with war, has 
the highest number of recorded 

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fights, which means that there 
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whether it's like in a newspaper
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know, printed proof that it 
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So so he's the one that I See as
having because he has this 

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recorded record. 
That's the one that I want to 

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honor and break by surpassing it
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And that's not like a male 
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certain weight class. 
That's just fights in general. 

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So 471 recorded fights from any 
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Is the record debate. 
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He's like he was a boxer 
western-style boxer. 

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So it's not even within the same
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have huge. 
The fights that they're not, 

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they're not provable like there.
It's just what they can 

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remember. 
Their like, I have roughly 300, 

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like, that kind of thing. 
So, I was going for the recorded

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number of bytes in length with 
more was a boxer and like the 

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20s and 30s. 
Got, you. 

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Got you and you just went into 
the belly of the Beast by going 

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to Thailand, and, and you're 
learning from, I'm just kind of 

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quoting chip who's been told me 
this. 

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If he's our employee that, that 
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If you, he's like, you, you went
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all of these just masters of 
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that are older but have all the 
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you're learning from them 
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all documented at all on like 
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information out there, right? 
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day-to-day. 
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know, the the way that anyone 
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know, twice a day morning 
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I have this project we call it 
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I library and preserve the 
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techniques from these Golden 
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America and it turns out that 
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and Frazier, and like, you know,
Sugar Ray Leonard that you could

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just kind of like GO train with 
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That's what it's like here. 
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access these Golden Age, 
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fighting is kind of Disappearing
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It's actually changing really 
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preserve this Legacy of 
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That's disappearing really. 
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don't even teach, I'm kind of, 
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a taxi driver, Samson is on and 
getting him to teach me and he 

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has just such incredible 
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everything up to like isolate. 
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into a larger vocabulary. 
Larry of what their style is. 

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things, make sense within the 
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they're not on social media. 
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content. 
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life into their style. 
That would have been forgotten. 

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enough to be very good at social
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them are outside of my tie now 
like they kind of float around 

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and maybe you know teach here 
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appearances at these kind of you
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stuff like that. 
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guys and you just start moving 
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incredible how quickly they just
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What they feel and what they 
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there, some of them are like in 
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moved so good still, it's really
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like coming back into contact 
with this thing that they, you 

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know, devoted their entire, you 
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old or whatever. 
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doing it. 
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on cloud nine having you just 
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willing to learn from. 
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they would have that opportunity
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this exotic quality to it that 
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I is interested in them and what
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It's you know, you see that with
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on an international stage and 
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This has is kind of like bigger 
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because, you know, I meet 
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noise who's arguably one of the 
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If not the greatest of all time.
And he kind of, has had a second

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wind breathed into him, in terms
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Like, I think that a lot of 
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is now, from falling, my 
material, but then kind of doing

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their own research themselves. 
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celebrated in this way. 
That I don't think he would have

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had Chance for because the 
popularity of noise High among 

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the younger generation in 
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celebration from. 
I think his own culture. 

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Why do you think that is that? 
Why do you think the evolution 

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of more time is changing so 
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assuming abroad. 
I think part of it is the 

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internationalization of my ties.
So a lot of people who watch 

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more traditional might I have a 
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it's scored so differently from 
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as being like a good fight, so, 
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aggression. 
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aggression. 
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really beautiful Nuance. 
It's a buddhistic culture. 

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And so aggression is actually 
not rewarded seen as being out 

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of control of yourself. 
But dominance is primary, like, 

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dominance is really important 
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the difference in seeing 
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aggression, is that dominance is
controlling yourself and your 

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opponent at the same time, 
whereas aggression can also 

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you're out of control of 
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slipping because my tie is 

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becoming more popular 
internationally there. 

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More Fighters coming to Thailand
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But so they're getting a kind of
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them. 
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necessarily a bad thing. 
I think the the popularity of 

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muy Thai growing internationally
is a good thing for its 

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survival, but Because people are
not super invested in learning, 

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you know, how to score it or how
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Its kind of more traditional 
form the promoters and the 

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council's and things like this 
are going to make changes to 

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make it more digestible for 
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familiar with what it 
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Discord like well, I don't know.
I mean, I'm coming at this 

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totally blind. 
This is not my area of expertise

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by any means, but in doing the 
MMA that we have been every 

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week. 
I've been kind of just broken up

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a little bit more when I, when I
see content around martial arts 

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in general, in the states in 
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It seems like everything. 
It's like it's almost become 

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like a like a like there's 
definitely just amazing athletes

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and Fighters. 
But so much of the hype is like 

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this. 
This game like politics almost 

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like this publicity stunt so to 
speak and it's like that's what 

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the people want to see. 
That's what people are trying to

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do. 
You've got all these boxers that

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are Are you know, cross over to 
different divisions and is 

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trying to build up on this hype 
which seems so counter to what 

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you're describing with this like
mindset in this discipline in 

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this art form. 
Yeah. 

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It's it hasn't gotten that far 
here. 

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But even in the time that you 
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development of MMA over time. 
It's become more and more like 

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the WWE and not in terms of how 
they're fighting. 

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But in terms of how they hype 
the fights and you know the 

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parts outside of the ring or 
cage or whatever that Come part 

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of a Fighter's job. 
I don't know. 

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It's I guess it gets people who 
aren't super into the sport 

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hyped and you just want eyes on 
it. 

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But I think for die-hard fans, 
they don't really love that kind

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of thing. 
Yeah, it kind of devalues what 

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the actual essence of the sport 
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don't know. 
This is all just like I said, 

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I'm new at all this, but it's 
been fascinating to dive into. 

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So as far as more Tangos, you 
know, as it relates to other, 

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Eating philosophies. 
What's the main difference in mu

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ties? 
Especially your more traditional

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formats like from a from a 
fighting stance from a technique

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stance, like what separates that
from a lot of the other formats 

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out there? 
Um, what time is interesting in 

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that? 
It is still closer to its 

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martial art Origins as other 
fighting Arts that have become 

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more kind of. 
Artistic or sporting? 

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So what I mean by that is that a
martial art necessarily is 

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developed like on a Battlefield 
4, you know, defense or 

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protection or whatever the thing
is. 

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And so what Ty is known as the 
art of eight limbs because you 

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use your fists, elbows, knees 
feet back in the day. 

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You could use your head, which a
lot way. 

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Still does the one tight you 
don't use your head for head 

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butts and stuff anymore, but 
it's basically like on the 

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battlefield if you lost an axe 
or whatever your weapon was, now

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you have your elbow or like you 
lost your spear. 

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Now you have. 
See this kind of thing and every

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move was meant to end the fight.
Like it's not meant to be kind 

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of like, oh, let's do just 
enough. 

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Like it was actually pretty 
brutal of, like, what can I do 

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to stop my opponent? 
And I think that it's kind of 

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kept some of that original kind 
of aesthetic to it. 

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Whereas, you look at martial 
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Rowdy that because they have 
this really long history, as 

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kind of racional sports. 
They've moved really far away 

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from their martial art Origins 
for the Marshal background, 

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which is that when it becomes a 
ring sport or kind of a 

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demonstration of sport. 
It takes a lot of the actual 

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contact out of it. 
So compared to other martial 

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arts, my ties considered pretty 
brutal, because it's still very 

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contact driven. 
So, you know, like a little kid,

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who starts my tie and grows up 
in white. 

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Hi. 
They're just hard kids. 

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They're so used to contact and 
like taking up space and kind of

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like having this dignity in what
they're doing rather than 

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necessarily just having a like 
I'm doing this movement in 

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space, to get the Perfection of 
the, you know, flow of it that 

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you get with like cop does or 
something like that in other in 

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other martial arts. 
It's still very grounded in 

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contact. 
Yeah, I mean, chip was showing 

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me some videos on YouTube 
earlier. 

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Today. 
I've just these these people 

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fighting in more time and I 
mean, half the time you don't 

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even use like legitimate gloves 
run. 

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Like you're just using like 
that, that roped one that you 

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wrap around your fingers and 
that's pretty much it, right. 

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That's card trick which is it's 
a little bit popular right now, 

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but it it stems back to older 
like when white I was first 

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becoming a sport rather than 
like actual battles. 

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So that's not the norm. 
I would say that's maybe like 

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five percent rather than, you 
know, half the time. 

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But yeah, it is. 
It is growing in popularity, to 

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have the Rope fights. 
I do that actually. 

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Really like it. 
Yeah, it's just, I mean, shoot 

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your freaking tough, like people
taking hits like that, you know,

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they're just here. 
Whole nother level of toughness.

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Right there. 
It's impressive. 

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So when you started doing this 
and you, you decided to go 

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towards a ketogenic diets, what 
were you doing before Keitel at 

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what was the typical days? 
Eating where you were you doing 

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any particular diet or just 
eating whatever? 

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No, I I mean, I just ate Thai 
food. 

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Mostly like my breakfast would 
be a little bit more. 

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Western like, you know, some 
kind of like eggs and toast type

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of thing, but then there's a lot
of rice. 

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And Thailand, a lot of 
vegetables meat is kind of a 

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smaller portion in anything 
you're doing. 

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So it's like mainly the rice and
vegetables and Curry or whatever

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and then you have like a little 
bit of meat as the you know, 

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treat of the food or whatever. 
I didn't give it a lot hot. 

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I didn't, you know, pay a lot of
attention to macro-nutrients or 

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anything like that. 
And I felt like I was just 

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having a lot of like, stomach 
issues. 

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Made me uncomfortable, a lot of 
the time. 

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It was really unfortunate to 
deal with when you're trying to 

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like rest between training 
sessions in the middle of the 

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day or you know, trying to deal 
with a stomach ache while you're

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being need in the stomach by 
your dream. 

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Not like it just sucks. 
So prior to looking into keto I 

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kind of I dread Michael Palin. 
Like I was kind of like aware of

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the idea of, you know, eating 
higher fat and lower carbs and 

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things like that. 
But I just I feel like focusing 

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on one's diet is kind of It 
takes up a lot more mental 

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00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,700
energy than I feel like I'm 
willing to put out. 

450
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:28,900
I was actually vegan for 10 
years from when I was like, 12 

451
00:24:28,900 --> 00:24:33,100
years old to 22. 
So I've done a lot of like, 

452
00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:39,000
super eliminating type diets, 
but I think that the reason 

453
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:45,800
behind my going into keto has 
made it not as mentally taxing 

454
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:52,900
as previous forays into diets 
have been And that it feels 

455
00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:59,000
pretty intuitive to me. 
And so I don't feel like I'm 

456
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:01,700
thinking about it all the time. 
Whereas even when I wasn't on a 

457
00:25:01,708 --> 00:25:05,600
particular diet and I was trying
to, you know, just eat enough to

458
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,100
have the calories. 
I need to do the kind of 

459
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,100
training I'm doing. 
I felt like that was just so 

460
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,800
annoying, really, to have to 
think about what I was going to 

461
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,300
eat for dinner. 
Even if it didn't matter what it

462
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:19,700
was, are you eating pretty much 
intuitively now like you track 

463
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:22,300
your Macros at All just to kind 
of see what your Baseline is. 

464
00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:24,500
Are you pretty much just eating 
by what your body's feeling 

465
00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:26,900
like. 
I'm pretty intuitive. 

466
00:25:26,900 --> 00:25:29,600
Now, when I first started keto, 
I was tracking just because I 

467
00:25:29,608 --> 00:25:33,100
needed to know what that kind of
portion would look like. 

468
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,000
I think I actually now don't eat
as much fat as I probably should

469
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,200
be on. 
Maybe I should track my macros 

470
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,400
again or something like that, 
but I don't want to jump ahead. 

471
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,100
But for I think he do for about 
three years, but if two of those

472
00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:54,100
years, I actually do full day 
intermittent fasting. 

473
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:59,600
So I actually only eat every 
other Day, two years and for two

474
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:00,500
years. 
Yeah. 

475
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:07,800
Yeah, which I think my husband 
was doing this without being. 

476
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,200
He do a couple of years ago to 
lose weight, which is how we 

477
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,700
kind of came up with the idea 
and it was really hard for him 

478
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:17,300
because he wasn't eating hito. 
So fasting was actually really 

479
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:20,100
difficult because his body was, 
you know, trying to process 

480
00:26:20,900 --> 00:26:24,200
carbs all the time, but because 
I started doing keto first and 

481
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,900
then I start doing the 
intermittent fasting. 

482
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,100
I found it really easy like 
fasting for a whole day for me 

483
00:26:29,100 --> 00:26:32,700
is really not hard at all and it
doesn't hit my energy. 

484
00:26:33,500 --> 00:26:37,300
I'm not tired on those days or 
Like that, I fight fasted about 

485
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:42,000
60% of the time just because it 
depends on chance of whether I 

486
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,300
fight on a fasting day, or a, or
an eating day. 

487
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:48,500
I don't make adjustments for 
that on your own, you're feeding

488
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,700
days. 
Like, are you trying to front 

489
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:52,600
load, the majority of your 
calories or back load, the 

490
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,200
majority of your calories, or do
you do you structure that in a 

491
00:26:55,208 --> 00:26:58,200
particular way? 
Now, I do I eat the same way. 

492
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,800
I would as if I were eating 
every day, I don't really have 

493
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:07,700
to like make up for anything. 
But it's definitely much easier 

494
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:10,500
to just keep being key to the 
whole time so that there's not 

495
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:14,200
like a, you know, crashing when 
you start too fast or anything 

496
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,100
like that and in the intuitive 
sense, you know, there are some 

497
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:22,900
days when it's, you know, 7 p.m.
On a fasting day and I'm like, 

498
00:27:22,900 --> 00:27:25,700
okay, I'm ready to start eating 
now, but then usually I'm not 

499
00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:31,800
hungry the next morning so I 
don't know it just It has taken 

500
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:39,800
a lot of the, I guess. 
Inconvenience of eating out of 

501
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800
my eating process, even though 
it sounds super inconvenient. 

502
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:47,600
It's actually really convenient 
to like, if we have to drive 12 

503
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,900
hours up to Northern Thailand 
for me to fight, not having to 

504
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:53,400
think. 
What am I going to eat on these?

505
00:27:53,700 --> 00:27:58,600
12 hours is actually really 
Pleasant. 

506
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,900
Yeah, he does interesting. 
I mean I've been doing for about

507
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:06,300
seven years now. 
And before I started keto, I 

508
00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:09,300
mean I was I was bodybuilding, 
you know, before them, but I was

509
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:12,400
doing kind of just traditional, 
you know, bro, diets, you know, 

510
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,500
If It Fits your Macros diets, 
lots of carbs and I don't know 

511
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,900
what it was, but like the 
psychological aspect was just 

512
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,000
something was off. 
Like, I had a bunch of binging 

513
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,900
Tendencies. 
I had disordered eating habits 

514
00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:27,000
like nothing was sustainable and
it was just a psychological 

515
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,600
warfare. 
Time I thought about food and it

516
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:30,900
just wasn't in tune with my 
body. 

517
00:28:30,900 --> 00:28:33,800
And then once I went over to 
Quito, like I don't know what it

518
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,100
was. 
I don't know if it was hormonal 

519
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:39,800
or what, but the relationship I 
had with food improved and it 

520
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,700
took the guesswork out of eating
like I was just more in tune 

521
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,200
with what my body needed and 
then I could give it what it 

522
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,900
needed with that question. 
Like I just knew which is kind 

523
00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,600
of a strange phenomenon when you
I mean it's weird that people 

524
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,300
would not know what to eat. 
But I feel like most people 

525
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,300
probably don't know what to eat 
because they're constantly, you 

526
00:28:57,300 --> 00:28:58,800
know. 
Struggling with their weight or 

527
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:01,500
their health, or some form of 
fashion, but from a from a 

528
00:29:01,508 --> 00:29:04,200
psychological standpoint. 
I think there's just so much 

529
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:08,000
benefit that comes from giving 
your brain more quality dietary 

530
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,600
fats, and you got the 
circulating blood ketones, which

531
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,700
are also used by the brain, so 
that probably had something to 

532
00:29:14,708 --> 00:29:17,500
do with it, but just eliminating
that guesswork and eating 

533
00:29:17,500 --> 00:29:20,500
quality ketogenic Foods makes 
life much simpler. 

534
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:24,000
My opinion. 
Yeah, I think this is actually a

535
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:28,000
point that connects what you 
have expertise in and the and 

536
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,500
the fighting World which you 
are, you know, just kind of now 

537
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:36,800
starting to get into is that if 
you look at like, you know, body

538
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:41,600
composition for people who do a 
sport that involves getting up 

539
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,400
on a stage and looking your best
that has all of these elements 

540
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,100
to it. 
That are like, there's the 

541
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:49,200
loading phase and then there's 
the getting lean phase and the 

542
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,700
cutting phase and dehydration. 
We do that in five. 

543
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Because people have to make 
weight, you know, all these 

544
00:29:54,600 --> 00:30:00,000
different processes. 
And when people are on, when 

545
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,400
they're on the end where they're
trying to cut weight down to 

546
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,000
their fight, they get in this 
like super, everything sucks 

547
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,600
survival mode because it does 
suck to cut weight. 

548
00:30:08,700 --> 00:30:10,900
But then on the other end of 
that, when they finish their 

549
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:14,300
fight or whatever, they go into 
this complete, binge mode of 

550
00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:16,500
like, let me give myself 
everything that I deprived 

551
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:21,500
myself of before and this is at 
a time when your body is totally

552
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:22,900
in. 
Inflamed from your site. 

553
00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:25,600
Anyway, then you have all these 
emotional things going on 

554
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,500
because you just got out of 
putting your body through 

555
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,800
something pretty severe and 
you're going to like load it 

556
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:36,900
with sugar and alcohol and like 
all these inflammatory foods and

557
00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:41,000
go into this different process 
that then you kind of like hate 

558
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,100
yourself and feel shitty. 
But you're eating all of the 

559
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,100
things that you felt like you 
were proud of yourself of and I 

560
00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:50,500
see this with people who do like
competition Fitness when they 

561
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:52,900
when they have finished their 
Titian and they feel good, but 

562
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,000
then they have to like go back 
into this other phase of their 

563
00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:01,900
body that kind of like super 
spiked and low process of how 

564
00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:05,500
you view yourself and how you 
kind of reward yourself. 

565
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:09,200
And all of these things feels 
incredibly unhealthy in both of 

566
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,800
those lines of sport. 
Yeah. 

567
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,000
I completely agree. 
I mean, the the competitors in 

568
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,000
my room, you know that that 
follow traditional diets, and 

569
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,000
they deprive themselves. 
Elves. 

570
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,300
They the diet down for months. 
They get really lean. 

571
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:26,900
They look amazing on stage. 
And then the soon as the show's 

572
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,200
over, they binge on everything, 
like you're describing. 

573
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,300
I mean, I literally gained 20 
pounds in 24 hours, after my 

574
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:37,700
first show, and it just was not 
healthy, was, not sustainable. 

575
00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:40,500
And totally screw with my head 
because I just felt that I had 

576
00:31:40,500 --> 00:31:42,200
thrown away. 
Everything I'd worked so hard 

577
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:47,100
for so now like with a ketogenic
approach, I stay in a much 

578
00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:49,800
healthier, composition 
year-round pretty intuitively. 

579
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,700
Yeah, and then when it's time to
diet, For show, it's pretty 

580
00:31:53,700 --> 00:31:55,300
sustainable. 
I mean, I'll typically do like a

581
00:31:55,308 --> 00:31:58,200
nomad approach as calories get 
lower and just simply eat one 

582
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,800
meal a day, which is unheard of 
In traditional bodybuilding 

583
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,200
circles, but then I'll do well 
like my performance doesn't seem

584
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,900
to suffer whatsoever. 
My mind, stays sharp. 

585
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,000
My, recoveries heightened my 
hormone stay more stable because

586
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,600
I'm bringing in more quality 
dietary fats so I could 

587
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,800
definitely see how that would be
a pretty similar concept and you

588
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,300
know, in your in your world as a
fighter because you don't have 

589
00:32:20,300 --> 00:32:23,200
all these crazy. 
Ins and blood glucose blood 

590
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:26,300
insulin water retention. 
You're just able to stay much 

591
00:32:26,300 --> 00:32:28,700
more even Keel throughout the 
entire season. 

592
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,700
Yeah. 
It's the they have a phrase that

593
00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:33,500
stay ready. 
So you don't have to get ready. 

594
00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:38,700
I feel like that that 
encapsulates, the way we eat and

595
00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,900
people think of a diet is going 
on a diet, but when you use the 

596
00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:45,200
word and it's actual sense of 
like a diet is what you eat. 

597
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,300
It is your actual like, you 
know, vocabulary of what you 

598
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:50,700
eat. 
I think it's much healthier to 

599
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:55,100
just have a Distant diet rather 
than kind of cycling up and down

600
00:32:55,100 --> 00:32:58,000
all over the place about things.
I think it it does a lot more to

601
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,000
you psychologically, and 
emotionally than people, give it

602
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,300
credit for 100% agree. 
So you don't do any kind of car 

603
00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:06,600
Buffs or anything like that, 
then. 

604
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,200
No, no, I am again. 
What I was saying, is that when 

605
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,400
I went into kiitos, actually, 
for trying to kind of like, 

606
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,400
stabilize, my emotional and 
mental States. 

607
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:24,000
I kind of had pretty good Highs,
but like really low lows, and it

608
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,600
just was getting kind of It was 
rough. 

609
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:31,400
And so I can't actually remember
the movie. 

610
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,700
I think was a documentary called
like the Can't remember now. 

611
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:40,300
It was actually about how keto 
can be used for kids with like 

612
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,800
epileptic seizure. 
Yeah, and it wasn't about 

613
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,000
epilepsy, but it's kids with 
autism and kind of like 

614
00:33:48,500 --> 00:33:51,600
difficulty regulating their 
moves and things like this and 

615
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,800
it's not actually a great 
documentary, but you could see 

616
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,200
in the examples they were 
showing how quickly it was 

617
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000
working on these kids. 
Like it was within, you know, 

618
00:33:59,008 --> 00:34:01,600
like five weeks. 
And there were really big 

619
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:07,500
changes in how these kids were 
able to kind of be And when I 

620
00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,699
when I went in it to myself 
thinking I was just going to try

621
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:13,500
it for you know, like six weeks 
or something, just to see if it 

622
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:15,800
would have the kind of effect. 
I wanted. 

623
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,800
It was like we've been three 
days that I could feel a 

624
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:23,400
difference and it is one of 
these things. 

625
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:28,600
We're just being able to 
stabilize one part. 

626
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,699
Like if you have a table and 
like two of the legs are really 

627
00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:34,500
good. 
You've got a pretty A 

628
00:34:34,507 --> 00:34:37,900
functioning table, whereas like,
if they're wonky all the time. 

629
00:34:37,900 --> 00:34:40,400
It's really hard to set anything
on top of it. 

630
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,699
Without it all, going off the 
end just because you haven't 

631
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:45,900
stabilized the base of it. 
So I feel like for me to do has 

632
00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:49,100
kind of like stabilized my base,
and I can kind of work on other 

633
00:34:49,100 --> 00:34:51,400
things, around that make other 
changes around that. 

634
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:53,600
Yeah. 
I think that's a good analogy 

635
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:56,500
that I mean, I don't ever do the
car Buffs either because I don't

636
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:59,300
want to feel a need for it and 
some people do and, you know, 

637
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:02,300
more power to him, but I feel 
like once you remove that 

638
00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:05,700
decision fatigue, in what you 
Eat and what you function well 

639
00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:09,100
with it just allocate so much 
more time and resources to other

640
00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:12,500
things in your life that you can
then focus on, you know, for you

641
00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:15,600
the riding. 
And I feel like once once you 

642
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,100
have that now, then I mean, 
taking the guesswork out of your

643
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,200
nutrition makes everything else 
so much easier and it's amazing 

644
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,700
how how big, an impact the 
foods. 

645
00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:28,600
You consume can have on your 
mental state, your mental 

646
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,300
Readiness, your mental recovery.
Do you like, what what kind of 

647
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,600
what kind of? 
Psychological issues where you 

648
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,800
have and with your diet prior to
kid. 

649
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,700
It was just like increased 
anxiety or stress, or what was 

650
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:43,400
it? 
Exactly. 

651
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:48,000
Yeah, it's just kind of um, I'm 
a very self-critical person and 

652
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,700
so I definitely have this like 
inner coach that's just going 

653
00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:56,300
all the time. 
But when you're trying to when 

654
00:35:56,300 --> 00:35:59,100
you're trying to improve 
yourself in more Thai, it's 

655
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:03,700
under the structure of pressure.
So like you're if you're 

656
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:08,800
sparring with someone, you have 
another person who's, you know, 

657
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,900
making things difficult for you.
That's their job is to make 

658
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:17,000
things difficult for you. 
And if Stuck in a certain mental

659
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,600
state, where you're just 
criticizing yourself all the 

660
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,400
time. 
You actually don't put it into 

661
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,400
the perspective of there are two
of us in here. 

662
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,500
So my sparring partner might be 
making it harder for me by him 

663
00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:29,000
doing really good things today, 
rather than I just suck worse 

664
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:30,800
than I did yesterday, kind of 
thing. 

665
00:36:31,300 --> 00:36:35,200
And if you can't pull yourself 
out of those kinds of criticisms

666
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,600
and feeling bad about stuff. 
You actually can't improve. 

667
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,600
I say this to people who contact
me about feeling really awful 

668
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:47,600
that they've lost their fight. 
Is that it sucks to lose? 

669
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,300
Like for sure. 
It's there are natural ways to 

670
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:54,700
feel bad about how you performed
in training or how you performed

671
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:59,900
in a fight, but it's only like 
it's only rough as long as you 

672
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:03,100
keep holding it, once you put it
down, you can actually learn 

673
00:37:03,100 --> 00:37:06,200
from it and like start 
progressing again, and my mental

674
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,000
state was just not allowing me 
to put stuff down. 

675
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,500
And so I was just getting more 
and more, and more weight, 

676
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,900
making it harder and harder for 
me to even process things. 

677
00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:18,200
Should have been learning from, 
and I think that that when I 

678
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,900
start going keto and kind of 
regulating my moods a little bit

679
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:23,700
more like this, I was able to 
have two thoughts at once. 

680
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:26,600
So I was still having to, like I
suck thought, but there is a 

681
00:37:26,607 --> 00:37:29,600
secondary thought that was like,
put it in the context of what's 

682
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,900
actually happening, and it 
allowed me to move like the 

683
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,700
water became less stagnant in 
that sense. 

684
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,000
If you were to take a wild guess
as to what the the mechanism is 

685
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,400
there. 
Do you think it was like 

686
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,900
hormone-related, like in your 
brain or some? 

687
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,300
Type of just a regular blood 
sugar insulin levels. 

688
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:50,300
Or what would you think the 
actual Catalyst for that is? 

689
00:37:52,100 --> 00:37:54,400
I'm gonna probably guess that it
has something to do. 

690
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,200
I'm gonna I think it's hormones 
for sure, but I don't know which

691
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:04,200
ones, but in terms of like just 
like if you picture a three year

692
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,200
old kid, who's just downed a 
bunch of like apple juice or 

693
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600
sugar something like how cranky 
they get and they're just 

694
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:13,200
completely unreasonable. 
Like, you can't, you can't talk 

695
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,300
to a kid that's in that state. 
You don't want to like get your 

696
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:17,600
kid all sugared up and then try 
to get them to calm down. 

697
00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:20,800
Yeah, I think that's what was 
happening in my brain. 

698
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:25,000
I think that, I might have even 
like a higher sensitivity to 

699
00:38:25,500 --> 00:38:29,200
what sugars and carbs can do for
the hormones with insulin and 

700
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,700
what's going on with being able 
to regulate yourself. 

701
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:36,500
I think that a lot of people 
have the experience of we even 

702
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,300
have, like, slang terms for to 
being hangry, right? 

703
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,100
Which is when you're angry 
because you're hungry and you 

704
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:44,500
just like your mood is just bad 
because of that. 

705
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,900
I don't get in a bad mood. 
When I'm hungry now, like at all

706
00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:51,700
and that must be hormonal, that 
must be, you know, different 

707
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:55,900
triggers going on in the body. 
So, being able to just eliminate

708
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:58,800
that aspect of it, so that, when
I'm in a bad mood, it's not 

709
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,900
because of some super small 
thing. 

710
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,300
I couldn't get over but it's 
actually something that I can 

711
00:39:04,300 --> 00:39:05,600
look at it. 
Like okay, this is not 

712
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,400
significant. 
Now. 

713
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,000
I need to look at what the base 
reason for. 

714
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:13,400
This is rather than just, you 
know, I didn't eat soon enough 

715
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,200
before training or something 
like that. 

716
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,100
Yeah, I would imagine being 
hungry is not conducive to 

717
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,600
becoming a better fighter and 
improving on a day-to-day basis.

718
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:23,900
What does a typical day like 
going on? 

719
00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:25,700
You're feeding days. 
Like what kind of food do you 

720
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,800
eat? 
So I trained early. 

721
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:35,300
So I'm at the gym at like, 7:30.
So when I get home at about, I 

722
00:39:35,308 --> 00:39:38,100
don't know, 10 is, when I would 
eat. 

723
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:46,600
So I usually have like eggs of 
some kind, maybe some kind of 

724
00:39:46,900 --> 00:39:52,700
tie ish dish ties have really 
good like sun-dried pork kind of

725
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,400
stuff. 
And then I'll just have like a 

726
00:39:54,408 --> 00:39:57,400
lot of greens. 
I really like salad. 

727
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,900
So like I usually have a big 
chunk of salad with whatever I'm

728
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:07,400
eating. 
Dinner is usually like a I don't

729
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,900
know, significant piece of meat.
We get were able to get really 

730
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:13,800
good grass, fed beef from 
Australia and Thailand. 

731
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:16,100
Nice. 
It's expensive. 

732
00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,000
So, that's not like every every 
single time we eat, but it's 

733
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,800
worth it to get it a couple of 
times. 

734
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:23,600
And it's really filling, which 
is good. 

735
00:40:26,500 --> 00:40:28,800
Yeah, just kind of like 
normal-ish to me. 

736
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:33,500
Normally stuff is what I eat. 
There's no like big focus on fat

737
00:40:33,500 --> 00:40:35,000
bombs. 
Like when I first started in 

738
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,100
Quito, I was trying to figure 
out that bombs and stuff like 

739
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:42,300
this, but unfortunately about 
eight months ago. 

740
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:47,300
I was diagnosed with Adina 
myiasis, which is a, they used 

741
00:40:47,300 --> 00:40:49,000
to say. 
It was, it was endometriosis, 

742
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:53,100
but now, they separate it. 
And it Dairy is actually really 

743
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,000
bad for it. 
It creates a lot of inflammation

744
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,600
and discomfort, so, Been off of 
dairy for the past, like, 8 

745
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,500
months. 
I think would make skeeto a 

746
00:41:01,508 --> 00:41:04,000
little bit tricky because that's
where a lot of my thoughts were 

747
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,900
coming from, but I definitely 
feel better without it. 

748
00:41:08,900 --> 00:41:12,500
So, again, it's one of those 
things that's like, You don't 

749
00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,600
really crave things that make 
you feel really bad when you eat

750
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:18,300
totally. 
So what are the main source of 

751
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:19,900
fats? 
Now because that grass-finished 

752
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,600
beef is going to be pretty lean.
Are you just like put a lot of 

753
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,100
olive oil and your salads? 
I use a lot of olive oil and 

754
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:30,200
coconut oil yet. 
So that's, that's mainly where 

755
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,100
the fats are coming from unless 
it's just like the fat in, you 

756
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:35,600
know, bacon or meat or something
like that. 

757
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,300
But even even bacon is I think 
50/50 and it's protein and fat. 

758
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,700
Macadamia nuts. 
But you know, Kind of as a snack

759
00:41:45,700 --> 00:41:47,100
kind of thing. 
Again. 

760
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:49,400
Like I said earlier. 
I think that my, I can probably 

761
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,400
up my fat for my benefit, but I 
haven't quite figured out yet 

762
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,300
how to do that without, you 
know, like taking a tablespoon 

763
00:41:57,300 --> 00:42:01,400
of oil or something. 
I don't know what the the 

764
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,800
shipping to Thailand's like, but
I'm going to send you some keto 

765
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:05,500
bricks. 
You can try those on a training 

766
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:06,900
day and see if it makes a 
difference. 

767
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,700
Oh, wow. 
Yeah, so that means well, thank 

768
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:12,300
you pretty, pretty fatty. 
So we'll see if that works for 

769
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:13,600
them. 
I'll get you some don't have any

770
00:42:13,700 --> 00:42:15,100
Very in there. 
So no issues. 

771
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:19,400
Thank you. 
What about when it comes to like

772
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:23,000
the mindset of someone that 
does, what you do, you know, 

773
00:42:23,008 --> 00:42:25,600
stepping into a ring and happen 
to have the right? 

774
00:42:25,700 --> 00:42:30,100
Just mental focus and Clarity 
and just Vision to perform and 

775
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:32,100
that lets your anxiety and 
stress get the best of you like,

776
00:42:32,100 --> 00:42:35,900
do you meditate quite a bit 
prior to a finite or how do you,

777
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,600
how do you harness the mind 
going into this? 

778
00:42:40,500 --> 00:42:44,000
I don't, I don't meditate before
fights as part of my like 

779
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,200
process of getting in there. 
But I do meditate almost every 

780
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,200
day. 
I use a method that's called the

781
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:52,800
pasta which instead of focusing 
on the breath, which a lot of 

782
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,500
meditations use you focus on two
objects. 

783
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,400
One is the body and the other is
the mine. 

784
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:01,900
So as you're sitting there, for 
example, you just note that you 

785
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:04,000
call your body Roop, that group 
is sitting. 

786
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,600
It's not, I'm sitting, but like 
Ruth is sitting, and then if 

787
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,800
there's a sound, that's the 
mind. 

788
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,900
The mind is hearing, that kind 
of thing. 

789
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:17,600
So way to kind of take the self 
out of experiences, that's been 

790
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:23,800
really helpful. 
But when you get into the ring 

791
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,800
to fight, you take your anxiety 
with you, I think snow there's 

792
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,000
no like I leave this all on the 
outside. 

793
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,100
I can totally turn myself into a
pure Warrior. 

794
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:37,000
When I step in the ropes. 
It's not really in my 

795
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,500
experience. 
Something that works. 

796
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:42,100
But when you step into that 
space and you're taking your 

797
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:45,500
fear, or your anxiety or your 
doubt with you, you just have to

798
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:48,900
understand how to not give it 
significance in that space. 

799
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:51,100
So you're like, you Come with 
me, but you have to be quiet 

800
00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:54,400
like you have to just kind of 
turn the volume down on that 

801
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,600
part and being able to turn the 
volume down is very much 

802
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,600
something that requires a lot of
mental training and kind of 

803
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,700
practice outside of the Ring, to
be able to do it under the 

804
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:09,600
pressure in the ring. 
And I have a lot of fights. 

805
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:15,000
I've 269 fights now, and so I 
have a lot of experience, both 

806
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,800
good and bad success, and non 
success of being able to do 

807
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,200
that. 
But I think one of the hardest 

808
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:25,500
things about getting into fight 
is that if you don't practice 

809
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,100
and learn how to control your 
brain, while you're under that 

810
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,700
kind of pressure, you have too 
many opponents, like you're 

811
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:33,000
fighting yourself and your 
opponent which is just a 

812
00:44:33,008 --> 00:44:37,300
completely unfair fight. 
And your opponent's job is to 

813
00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,600
put that doubt in you it's to 
make you want to quit. 

814
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:42,600
It's to make you think that you 
can't overcome whatever they're 

815
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,200
putting on you and if you get 
into a state where you're like, 

816
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:50,100
oh, yes, that's true. 
It's very hard to Recover from 

817
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:53,700
that in the space of time as a 
fight, a fight is only like, you

818
00:44:53,707 --> 00:44:58,000
know, 15 minutes long. 
So you have to be able to train 

819
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,200
yourself to the point of getting
your brain under control 

820
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,100
quickly. 
Like you feel yourself slip and 

821
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,800
you get back on the road really 
quickly. 

822
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:08,300
Otherwise, you just run out of 
time. 

823
00:45:08,300 --> 00:45:10,200
And after the fight, you're 
like, ah should have done this. 

824
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,900
I should have done that. 
You have to do it within that 

825
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,200
time. 
Oh, yeah, I would definitely 

826
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,500
manage that. 
You don't ever just leave that 

827
00:45:16,500 --> 00:45:18,600
Stress and Anxiety outside the 
ring. 

828
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:21,700
It comes with You but having 
done 269 fights. 

829
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:25,500
Now, it was there like a point 
at which you had done so many 

830
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:30,600
that you felt enough confidence 
in your own ability that you 

831
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,700
were just one with the entire 
experience and like, you were 

832
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:36,800
able to perform like in a flow 
state, so to speak. 

833
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:43,900
I've definitely had Flow State. 
A shockingly small number of 

834
00:45:43,900 --> 00:45:52,500
times given how many times but 
yeah, there's a I think for me 

835
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:55,100
it's hard to figure out how to 
access it on purpose. 

836
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,700
Right? 
So like I've definitely happened

837
00:45:57,700 --> 00:45:59,700
into it. 
And then once you've Glimpse 

838
00:45:59,700 --> 00:46:02,500
that Shore, you can try to 
figure out how to like swim back

839
00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:05,100
to it kind of thing, but I think
it's a little bit difficult to 

840
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:09,600
do on demand. 
I think, a lot of it has to do 

841
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:15,400
with kind of not planning. 
So much like you, you should 

842
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,500
visualize before going into a 
fight, what you want to get out 

843
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,500
of it, or what you want to do, 
but you can't go in. 

844
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:24,100
It being like, I'm going to do 
these five things because 

845
00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:25,700
there's another person in the 
ring with you and you don't 

846
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,600
really know what they're going 
to do. 

847
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,500
So you're setting yourself up 
for failure because you don't 

848
00:46:30,500 --> 00:46:34,000
have the flexibility of I'm 
going to respond to things that 

849
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,500
are happening in the ring or the
kind of pressure in my 

850
00:46:36,508 --> 00:46:39,800
opponents, putting on me, or if 
I put them in a difficult spot. 

851
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,200
You have to smell blood and be 
able to push on it. 

852
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,500
It's kind of incredible to be a 
fighter who has experience being

853
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:51,200
in the ring and actually facing 
someone and then when you step 

854
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,500
out of it and you're watching 
someone else and you see that 

855
00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:55,600
they've hurt their opponent, but
they can't see it because 

856
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,000
they're totally lost in their 
head somewhere else and so their

857
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,800
opponents able to recover and 
you're like yelling at them like

858
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,800
go after them, but they can't 
see it. 

859
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,200
I think that's been really 
educational for me as well as 

860
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,800
being able to watch other people
and see like, oh, I probably do 

861
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,600
that. 
I've probably missed being able 

862
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,600
to see that. 
I, you know, had my opponent in 

863
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,100
an uncomfortable spot. 
They were ready to go, but 

864
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,300
you're just so in your own head 
that you can't actually respond 

865
00:47:21,300 --> 00:47:25,000
to The fight itself, you're 
basically trying to have like a 

866
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,000
one-way conversation of all the 
things that you wanted to do. 

867
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:31,600
Yeah, I would definitely think 
that's like for me I could see 

868
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:35,100
myself having this like really 
rigid plan as to what I would 

869
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:39,500
want to happen, but then it just
totally not at work. 

870
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:44,700
Yeah, so being flexible and just
being willing to adapt like that

871
00:47:44,700 --> 00:47:46,300
I think would make all the 
difference in the world for 

872
00:47:46,300 --> 00:47:48,000
sure. 
Yeah. 

873
00:47:49,100 --> 00:47:51,400
Is there a lot of camaraderie 
amongst the the fighters like 

874
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,800
when? 
Or fighting someone and 

875
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,100
regardless of who wins, who 
loses like is everybody pretty 

876
00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:57,500
much friends in the day or is 
there all these rivalries, as 

877
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:01,000
well? 
There's not really rivalries 

878
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:06,500
that that I've seen. 
I think it's it's not a monolith

879
00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:08,900
for sure. 
I think mostly there's this 

880
00:48:08,900 --> 00:48:10,500
attitude. 
That's like once the fight is 

881
00:48:10,500 --> 00:48:11,500
over. 
We're friends. 

882
00:48:11,900 --> 00:48:14,600
There's a tradition after 
fights, you go to your 

883
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,800
opponent's corner and their 
cornermen, give you water. 

884
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:20,100
So like both sides do this. 
And it's basically, a, like, 

885
00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:23,200
shaking of hands type of thing. 
After a fight. 

886
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,400
I've become friends with quite a
number of my former opponents. 

887
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,600
Sometimes we fought again, after
being friends, which is slightly

888
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,600
awkward, but not the end of the 
world. 

889
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,900
But, I think that a lot of my 
ability to Have. 

890
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,100
Relationships with, or like kind
of a happy experience with my 

891
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:50,200
opponents, is that I speak Thai.
So, you know, I can talk with 

892
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,800
them or contact them or anything
like this after a fight. 

893
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,700
I think it's difficult for 
westerners who come to Thailand,

894
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:59,300
who are here for a short time, 
or maybe don't speak the 

895
00:48:59,300 --> 00:49:02,600
language or something the the 
point at which you could make 

896
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,700
contact with your opponent to 
make it friendly. 

897
00:49:04,700 --> 00:49:09,600
Afterwards is just kind of Lost 
in Translation and so it can be 

898
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:11,300
a little bit more of a like 
rivalry. 

899
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:14,000
Like I'm going to kick that 
guy's ass or, you know, 

900
00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,000
whatever. 
The thing is that that people 

901
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:21,400
like to bring into their. 
Fight Persona, was it? 

902
00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:23,200
It was everyone pretty receptive
to you. 

903
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,000
And you first got the Thailand 
or were they kind of standoffish

904
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,900
than as you Illustrated that you
were here for the Long Haul and 

905
00:49:29,900 --> 00:49:32,100
for the right reasons and you 
know, invested in learning the 

906
00:49:32,107 --> 00:49:35,400
language and really just, you 
know, improving your skill set. 

907
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,600
They warmed up to you her had 
that kind of go down. 

908
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,600
As a really friendly when I 
first came here, you know, 

909
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,000
everyone who's at your jam is on
your side. 

910
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,200
So when you come here, and you 
put yourself in a gym, that's 

911
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,700
your team. 
Their job is to kind of Build 

912
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:52,500
You Up, and improve you and 
stuff like that. 

913
00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:56,500
So the point at which you would 
not really be accepted or 

914
00:49:56,500 --> 00:50:00,300
something like that is is when 
you're put into the larger, you 

915
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:03,200
know, you go out of your house. 
That's the gym and as whether 

916
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,900
you're accepted into the larger 
fight Community or how your 

917
00:50:06,900 --> 00:50:11,200
received by Promoter is whether 
they think you're good to work 

918
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,900
with or not. 
When I started learning Thai 

919
00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:16,900
like, actually being able to 
understand it. 

920
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,100
I was kind of amazed at how much
shit ties talk. 

921
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,200
I couldn't I couldn't understand
it before. 

922
00:50:23,900 --> 00:50:27,900
And then once I could understand
it, I was amazed by how much 

923
00:50:27,900 --> 00:50:29,300
there is. 
Usually they're very, very 

924
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:31,900
funny. 
Like it's not mean, but 

925
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:35,800
sometimes it can be very blunt 
and sometimes it was about me. 

926
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:41,700
Just kind of learning to take it
on the chin because there are 

927
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:44,900
cultural differences in things 
that you'll say to someone's 

928
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,100
face and Thailand versus things 
that you would not say to 

929
00:50:47,100 --> 00:50:51,200
someone's face in America. 
So that was an interesting 

930
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,100
cultural. 
Kalas that I had to grow up, I 

931
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,700
guess. 
But in general, I think that 

932
00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:04,300
I've been very well received. 
I have a well-known name among 

933
00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:07,900
promoters and people in the, in 
the female more Thai Community. 

934
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:11,300
It's a little bit separate in 
Thailand the male and female 

935
00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:18,500
fighting, but everyone's very 
supportive and promoters tend to

936
00:51:18,508 --> 00:51:20,200
really like me. 
They like to put me on their 

937
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,000
cards because I fight hard, 
which is good. 

938
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,000
So that's very, Happy for me, 
but it's it's this kind of. 

939
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:34,600
Specific in challenge to be all 
the things that I am. 

940
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,700
So I'm a woman which makes 
things hard because you 

941
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:43,400
constantly have to fight to 
prove that your That you should 

942
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,700
be treated on par with even men 
who don't know what they're 

943
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:49,200
doing. 
But you just automatically are 

944
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,700
constantly put in the state of 
having to prove yourself, even 

945
00:51:51,700 --> 00:51:54,300
if you've proven yourself a lot 
and then I'm a Westerner. 

946
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:56,500
So I'm kind of on the outside of
things even though I speak the 

947
00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,400
language, you know, even though 
all of these things, I will 

948
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,000
never beat I. 
So that's a box that keeps me a 

949
00:52:03,008 --> 00:52:06,300
little bit farther out. 
I'm not young. 

950
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,400
You know, I'm at an age when 
everyone would have retired 

951
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,200
already. 
So even though, I Myself, in 

952
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:17,100
terms of being able to fight 
still consistently, all of these

953
00:52:17,100 --> 00:52:19,600
things. 
There's just an assumption among

954
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,500
ties, but like, at a certain 
age, you just kind of shouldn't 

955
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,400
be fighting anymore, can't be 
fighting anymore. 

956
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:29,300
So there's a lot of there's a 
lot of ways in which I'm not 

957
00:52:29,300 --> 00:52:32,900
accepted at the same time as 
being accepted and it's a little

958
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,600
bit. 
It's a little bit tricky to be 

959
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,900
juggling those different balls 
all the time. 

960
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,500
Oh, but it makes a story so much
better because you have all 

961
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:42,400
these, you know, cards stacked 
against you. 

962
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:46,400
No, but you you just rise to the
occasion and show them What 

963
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,600
You're Made Of and it's just it 
just I don't know like if I 

964
00:52:48,607 --> 00:52:51,500
always view life as like a story
book and you get it right your 

965
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:54,900
own chapters, and it sounds like
you're riding a pretty damn cool

966
00:52:54,900 --> 00:52:57,300
book. 
That's beautiful. 

967
00:52:57,300 --> 00:53:01,800
Thank you. 
I like I think it's, I got a 

968
00:53:01,808 --> 00:53:05,100
selfish question for you here. 
So with me not really having a 

969
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,500
freaking clue what I'm doing, 
other than our weekly MMA days. 

970
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:10,500
What would be a good way for 
someone. 

971
00:53:11,100 --> 00:53:14,500
That's one thing to dive deeper 
into martial arts. 

972
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:17,900
Whether it be Muay Thai 
Jiu-Jitsu or some other, you 

973
00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:20,800
know, philosophy. 
What would be a good way to kind

974
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,700
of dive into that. 
Knowing what, you know, now, 

975
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:27,900
like is there like some sir? 
Fundamentals are just like a lot

976
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:32,100
of people by myself included. 
Like I just go to quickly. 

977
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,800
I probably should focus on 
fundamentals more than I do, but

978
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:40,300
that's oftentimes not with the 
attraction is but in knowing 

979
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:42,000
what you do now, like if you 
were to do it all over again, 

980
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:45,500
how would you dedicate the first
six months of your trade? 

981
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:54,600
Oh wow. 
I think it's a little tricky 

982
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,300
because what? 
I know now, I didn't know them. 

983
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:02,200
So if I knew then what I know 
now, oh, I would focus on so 

984
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,900
many things. 
I would have understood so many 

985
00:54:03,900 --> 00:54:06,900
things that Master Key was 
teaching me that at the time. 

986
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,200
I just, I just couldn't 
comprehend and then you fast 

987
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,800
forward 10 years and I'm like, 
oh damn, that's what master came

988
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,300
was telling me. 
Like now I get it. 

989
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:21,700
I think I would focus a lot on 
just kind of getting Getting my 

990
00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:25,700
balance down. 
And then any time I was learning

991
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:27,800
something. 
I would focus more on the 

992
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,100
feeling of it rather than 
whether or not someone could 

993
00:54:31,100 --> 00:54:35,100
tell me it was correct or not 
like It doesn't have to be hard.

994
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,300
It doesn't have to be fast. 
It doesn't have to be perfect 

995
00:54:37,300 --> 00:54:39,900
technique, but you have to feel 
the difference between all of 

996
00:54:39,900 --> 00:54:43,900
those things in order to be able
to find your way back to the, 

997
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,400
you know, correct or the fast or
the hard. 

998
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:50,000
Like that's all feeling and I 
wish that I had known that much 

999
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:56,800
earlier as I was learning, but I
actually if I were to like give 

1000
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:01,100
you my little the Sylvie 
patented piece of advice, based 

1001
00:55:01,100 --> 00:55:06,600
on your PS would be Go online 
and watch Muay Thai or watch 

1002
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,800
anime and find a cider that just
Sparks you. 

1003
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,300
Like when you see that fighter, 
you just get so excited and 

1004
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:16,300
start actually imitating them. 
Like you don't actually have to 

1005
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:18,700
do their moves. 
But like steal their little 

1006
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:21,500
mannerisms. 
It's so much like when you're a 

1007
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:24,600
little kid and you like put a 
towel on your like I'm Batman 

1008
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,000
and you start running around and
being Batman. 

1009
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:32,200
That's actually how you become 
an amazing fighter or Emily and 

1010
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,800
my tie or whatever the thing is.
It's actually imitation. 

1011
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:40,700
It's from stealing, the kind of 
Charisma of someone who inspires

1012
00:55:40,700 --> 00:55:44,700
you and then it just kind of 
like pulls you up the mountain. 

1013
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:47,200
You're like, stoked to be 
running up the mountain instead 

1014
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,400
of like trotting. 
Like, did I take that step 

1015
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,400
properly? 
It's just be Batman all the way 

1016
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,200
up the mountain and it's so much
fun. 

1017
00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:55,900
Well, I don't know any other 
Fighters. 

1018
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:58,100
I'm just gonna start watching 
your videos and I'll be Sylvie. 

1019
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,900
I would love to see someone 
imitate me. 

1020
00:56:03,900 --> 00:56:05,300
I'd like to see what people 
think. 

1021
00:56:05,300 --> 00:56:09,800
I am handsome. 
I'm not be really interesting. 

1022
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,500
Notice. 
I have this is inspiring for 

1023
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:15,000
sure. 
I have a favorite fighter Cara 

1024
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:17,800
hot. 
Who, when, when he walks around.

1025
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,800
He really Leaf is what his 
chest. 

1026
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:24,000
I know him personally. 
So he was going to corn for me 

1027
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:26,200
at a fight once. 
And he was walking in front of 

1028
00:56:26,207 --> 00:56:29,600
me and I start imitating him 
and, like, walking past him and 

1029
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:30,500
he turned. 
And he looked at me. 

1030
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:31,800
Buddy, what's a my husband he 
goes. 

1031
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,300
Is that me? 
I mailed his invitation. 

1032
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:38,400
I was perfect. 
And what is his name again? 

1033
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,000
Cara, hot her hats or super one.
I'll send you a link. 

1034
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,700
He's unbelievable. 
Yeah. 

1035
00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:44,900
Yeah. 
I'll check him out for sure. 

1036
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:47,500
Awesome. 
Well, I want to respect for your

1037
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:50,700
time. 
I know it's 9:00 or 10:00 there 

1038
00:56:50,700 --> 00:56:53,400
in Thailand right now. 
You got all kind of stuff to do 

1039
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:54,200
today. 
I'm sure. 

1040
00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:58,200
But where can people go to find 
out more about you kind of dive 

1041
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,400
into your world. 
I know my name is tricky but 

1042
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:04,800
because I'm so prolific. 
It's super convenient. 

1043
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,100
You can just Google silly and 
white I and you will find me. 

1044
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,500
People find all my stuff. 
I have tons on YouTube. 

1045
00:57:12,500 --> 00:57:15,100
So definitely go watch my 
YouTube videos. 

1046
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:20,500
I have fights and training 
videos there and we also in the 

1047
00:57:20,508 --> 00:57:22,800
more tag library and preserve 
the Legacy that I was talking 

1048
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,200
about that's made possible 
through Patron. 

1049
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,400
So then, which I library is on 
patreon and even just for a 

1050
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,000
dollar, you get access to that. 
Is incredible technique and 

1051
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,000
information and documentary 
projects, interviewing these men

1052
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,500
from the Golden Age and stuff 
like that. 

1053
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:42,300
So yeah, that's where you find 
me is pretty equally online. 

1054
00:57:42,300 --> 00:57:44,100
Just solely motile. 
Find me. 

1055
00:57:44,500 --> 00:57:48,100
I will most definitely link out 
to all of those those sites and 

1056
00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:50,300
I just congratulate you for what
you're doing. 

1057
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:53,900
I mean your your breathing life 
into these people that have been

1058
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:57,300
doing this for years. 
That wouldn't otherwise be able 

1059
00:57:57,300 --> 00:58:00,700
to find more enjoyment in it. 
So that That in itself is 

1060
00:58:00,700 --> 00:58:02,000
awesome. 
You're doing something very 

1061
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:03,700
cool. 
And the sense that you're trying

1062
00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:05,800
to go for this record, you're 
doing this in Thailand. 

1063
00:58:05,800 --> 00:58:08,500
There's just so many things in 
your life that are, you know, 

1064
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:12,000
outside the norm and I 
appreciate anomalies like that. 

1065
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,600
And the fact that you're doing 
it all with the ketogenic 

1066
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:17,500
approach in a sport that most 
people say can't be done without

1067
00:58:17,500 --> 00:58:19,100
carbs. 
I mean, I hear that all the time

1068
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:22,300
and body building so kind of 
being an anomaly in that sense 

1069
00:58:22,300 --> 00:58:24,200
as well. 
And just showing people rather 

1070
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,200
than trying to argue with them, 
just showing them that it can be

1071
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:29,700
done and can be superior. 
I mean, my hats off to you, for 

1072
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:30,100
sure. 
Sure. 

1073
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,100
Thank you very much. 
And please tell Chip. 

1074
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:35,300
I say, thank you for wearing my 
shirt. 

1075
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,000
He was wearing today. 
I swear, he wears it every 

1076
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,300
single day, like, every single 
week, so I had to ask because I 

1077
00:58:41,308 --> 00:58:46,100
mean, that's his favorite shirt.
Well, so thank you very much. 

1078
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:47,600
Yeah. 
Thank you so much for taking the

1079
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:49,800
time. 
Definitely keep in touch, and if

1080
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,900
there's ever anything I can do 
for you in the keto space. 

1081
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:53,800
Just let me know. 
All right. 

1082
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:54,900
Thank you. 
Take care.